psyker-class

[untold niche]

(yours is better xD)

[marble crater]

Better mobility than the mk4? I already dodge and slide too close to the ledge sometimes, with the mk5 I would surely fall off all the time

[upper sun]

nah thats very good too

[cinder moon]

yeah mk5 has insane mobility

[untold niche]

i couldn't be bothered to grind for a new one to get like maniac since i only use it for trash (inc bruisers)

and thats how i learnt i can facetank ragers as void psyker

[upper sun]

does the combo reset on special activation for ds swords?

[cinder moon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper sun]

you really shouldnt bother going into melee with ragers as psyker

maniac is for trappers and muties

[untold niche]

yeah i hold my void and then tank hits

they run too fast anyway

[little sapphire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cinder moon]

not sure the mk4 has more than one heavy move

[little sapphire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[untold niche]

usually i tank one-two hit and then stuff die

if its like am ambush or whatever

else its ez gaming

knockback

imagine BM on illisi

[upper sun]

lemme try that shit if the special activation resets heavy combo then ds2 would be very usable

[rigid sky]

I have no problem doing that if I'm using DS4

[marble crater]

Yes

[rigid sky]

Quietitude works any time peril goes down iirc

[upper sun]

ofc not its a single target lobotmy pefect for ragers

[untold niche]

and dats why its stronk

[little sapphire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[untold niche]

even VS triggers it

stronk

wait

iirc it does, but i know the passive defo does.

[upper sun]

oh sick special attacks reset the combo for ds2

you can do H1SPH1

[cinder moon]

i don't think ds2 mobility is near as good as the other 2's though, so it's basically style points

[upper sun]

i think it has better clear

or it feels that way at least

[cinder moon]

maybe, i've honestly never tried it

4 and 5 do clear pretty well, all things considered

[untold niche]

no way ds4 horde clears well

i tried it once and im like ok this just helps me survive horde

[rigid sky]

If you take DD/SG it actually honestly does

Like, I'm easily triggering the "bloody 'ell, look at the psyker" voicelines with it

I guess it's basically acting like a combat blade

[cinder moon]

just aim at their heads and they all die

[upper sun]

man psyker is the only class i can do melee head damage in

my zealot/ogryn are too tall and my vet is too short

[cinder moon]

my psyker is min height but still takes heads pretty good

[upper sun]

im just not really used to other heights

[cinder moon]

on ogryn i swing at literally everything smaller than me, including teammates

[upper sun]

they should make height changable tbh

[cinder moon]

especially ones wearing rags and other crappy clothing

[upper sun]

🤔 actually if the forum admins can change names for you can they change height for you as well

[untold niche]

get the height changer mod

[upper sun]

i wish cant use mods for noce since i stream the game 😭

[untold niche]

so sorry what is noce

i mean u can ionstall it, change ur height and uninstall it

nobody ill know

[upper sun]

🤔

if the game would just start on my older laptop that could be doable

[untold niche]

u could ask ur fren

login ur steam acc
and do the height changer for you

[cinder moon]

wait they can change character names?

[upper sun]

yeah

they can even undelete chars

[cinder moon]

dang, i need to get holy changed to holly

[upper sun]

i bet they use their powers to change their own weapons

i know i would not be trusted with that shit

[marble crater]

Having mods sure must be nice
Meanwhile on Xbox:

[untold niche]

am bored so here to make meaningless convo again
use for social media platforms:
Facebook: F is for family, boomer topics
Twitter: Politics / following people of some niche field
Tumblr: Corny humor, art, author circlejerk
Instagram: Actually a normal social media platform to keep in touch with your friends, also gets bottom fed tiktok memes

[rigid sky]

Reddit: Being wrong

[upper sun]

yeah about right

i avoid using twitter tumblr and tiktok

twitter makes you angry at everything and tumblr/toktok give you brain rot

man just because you have wounds doesnt mean you need to pop your until death in the first 2 minutes

[plucky flax]

Swag

[rigid sky]

Shit happens I guess lmao

wait that's before first contact

isn't it

[upper sun]

ya

[marble crater]

Valid reason

[plucky flax]

Yo this one is gud

[marble crater]

Do I craft a new illisi or wait for the crafting update in 6 months

[upper sun]

wait

just collect bases from brunt until then

[plucky flax]

It's next year not 6 months.

They just finished Easter break and going to summer break now.

[marble crater]

Brunt only has Obscures bases for me, it's not funny anymore

[upper sun]

iktfb

[marble crater]

There is too much truth in that statement. Even if the problem is with management I wonder what the devs actually do at work all day, like what do they work on if management decides to not release new content

[upper sun]

over engineer basic systems

[untold niche]

i think its just that the average person cannot view upvote count as general opinion
People shit on reddit for weird takes being upvoted and some good takes beig like -2
but most people dun realize to even perceive it like that is wrong

[upper sun]

also add art to inaccessible parts of the map

[untold niche]

tiktok is just shortformed video content
I don't really think its social media, i think by definition it is though, just not what im referring to

[upper sun]

this is in the area behind the elevator in the assassination mission the one in the torrent

only enemies can see this

[untold niche]

in honesty right, i think they are making another game.
Dat just wild guess tho :v

@upper sun but tbh twitter is really useful for following people in your field
its like a less corporate linkedin

[marble crater]

Darktide 2, Electric Boogaloo?

[untold niche]

i mean when did you announce DT?

as in legit asking

yeah just one year before the actual release, judging from teaser traler

[marble crater]

I have no idea, I have only been playing since it came to Xbox Gamepass, everything before then is ancient history to me

[untold niche]

damn 2 years*

im pretty sure DT was not made in 2 years

[plucky flax]

I think they're the kind of company that work 2 hours in a 10 hours day.

The rest is spent on break and shit talk.

[upper sun]

also for example this moving fan has a collision Mesh

[rigid sky]

as the machine spirit demands

[upper sun]

there is zero reason to make one for an object players will never interact with let alone get to

[untold niche]

company wouldn't be able to afford to do that

[marble crater]

Makes for great map design though, and the maps do look awesome

[untold niche]

hmm it doesn't say how big the dev team is though

[plucky flax]

I know because I am at somewhere that I can chin off and do 2 hours of work a day.

[untold niche]

see

i knew it

im so smart

[upper sun]

it doesnt effect how an object looks it just gives it unneeded physics interactions

[untold niche]

praise me

[lyric burrow]

Yeah dev team is split

[marble crater]

Unneeded until some crazy trick shot saves the game

[upper sun]

for people who make coop games or a living theyre not very good with team dynamics

[untold niche]

and have spent the last four months working on an announcement to an update, rather than the update itself, and said update is literally about achievements and not real content.

[marble crater]

Those penance cosmetics better be worth it

[plucky flax]

They couldn't make the deadline for an update of the update.

[untold niche]

idk who is this but what she said is funni
p13 no build variety for auric...

[plucky flax]

It's literally like a few thousand words and they couldn't write it.

[upper sun]

theyre just like me frfr

[plucky flax]

Give me a few hours and I can cook up a dev blog.

[upper sun]

we gotta put Ritalin in their water supply ive been saying it for months

[untold niche]

can anyone link me this "apology" by "martin"?

[marble crater]

Guess they mean the update to the last Dev blog? Unless they are referring to some message in the forum or discord somewhere

[upper sun]

millions can enjoy huh

[untold niche]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/eventcomments/3757725518106944547?snr=1_2108_9__2107

[marble crater]

Ah, that was well before my time

[untold niche]

the steam comments were quite funny

[upper sun]

549 jester reactions

[upper sun]

jesus i feel so sorry for those people

[lyric burrow]

Omg i forgot about that open letter

Those were the days of people just assuming the game was dead

[plucky flax]

It's back to that point.

[upper sun]

2045 is gonna be our year darktide bros....

[plucky flax]

They did 1 update last year (patch 13) then went in break again.

[lyric burrow]

Tbf the game is in a much better state now than it was before

Like last time people were leaving

Im not really worried about the game atm

Back then i had some amount of doubt

[untold niche]

how

how so many award

wtf

he show dclaw, rashad and chaxe with loadout mod
except he use the default god roll values

then he say you won't melee ragers while holding dclaw

[lyric burrow]

People do not understand the game and will just blindly accept what notable person says

Tbf i haven't seen that video

[untold niche]

i just browsing the steam forum

[lyric burrow]

I dont think maniac is as important as it used to be but its still good

[rich jolt]

Claw sword is literally one of the best melee against ragers lmao

[untold niche]

yes thats why i found it funny xD

btw deimos has a mutie 1 tap with maniac perk right?

[rich jolt]

I will say that maniac (tbf) is a non desirable roll for some melee because you dont want to get close to them

[radiant frigate]

is the take seriously maniac damage is bad because you don't melee ragers?

what about flamers and mutants

[radiant frigate]

only as long as you have stamina

after which it is pretty bad

[upper sun]

ignore all tanner posts

[lyric burrow]

Tbf you can often one shot flamers cause they take so much extra melee damage

Even without it

[rich jolt]

Surely bots

[lyric burrow]

I generally just take maniac if i actually plan on meleeing ragers/it helps get 1 shots on flamers

If you care about muties its good too obv

[limber copper]

No the take is for most melee weapons maniac does not help to reach any bps.

[untold niche]

yoshi can you confirm this, this is what i remember

[lyric burrow]

Doesnt even need maniac

[untold niche]

rashad 2 tap mutie, need maniac?

[upper sun]

if you have 80% dam 80% first target you dont need maniac for deimos

[radiant frigate]

frankly idk what else i would even put on

[limber copper]

And just because dclaw can take on rages doesn't mean you want to be melee with them.

[lyric burrow]

Uh not sure on rashaad

Probably

With lights

[radiant frigate]

flak is a common type and most "unarmored" type things already get oneshot

[lyric burrow]

Weakspot

[radiant frigate]

perhaps elites

[untold niche]

you don't want to doesn't mean you are not going to

[lyric burrow]

Ill generally do elites or unyield

If i dont want maniac

Flak/unyielding or elites i mean

[untold niche]

i was going to ask if you were a vet main when you said +elite

[lyric burrow]

Occasionally cara but generally you have uncanny

I am not a vet main

[untold niche]

yeah i think i see you most in zeal right :v

zeal chat

not your gameplay.

[radiant frigate]

i almost exclusively hang out in psyker chat

[lyric burrow]

I play psyker the most, but yeah i hang out in zel chat the most

I do like zealot tho

Second highest level

Still far below psyker tho

[untold niche]

same the cool people at zealo don't like me too much :(

[radiant frigate]

i think i have been to zealot chat maybe once

or in The Before Times

i occasionally appear in vet chat

rarely though

[lyric burrow]

Really? People are generally pretty chill

Unless you give them a reason not to be

[marble crater]

Probably said something heretical

[untold niche]

yeah they are, more like im overly enthusiastic about stuff so its annoying

[lyric burrow]

Ah

[untold niche]

i tend to

talk in a more i guess naive and extroverted way in game discords

also im pretty sure people got tired of me spamming them to ask weird gameplay mechanic interactions / help with builds

like i remember i asked and you were there

does attack speed affect the swing or just the swing interval

xD

but sadly no one could answer iirc

[marble crater]

what kind of question is that even

[lyric burrow]

Also to answer your rashaad question no you cannot get a 2 shot unless you crit headshot twice with the perk and 10 stacks of decimator with a light

[untold niche]

even with uh +maniac? and say 20 judgement stacks, max stacks of HT and SA

2 headshots light will not kill?

[marble crater]

Does attack speed make bullets faster or shoot more bullets in the same time? That should answer the question I think

[lyric burrow]

Thats with maniac

I didnt test with talent tree

Tree would get you there

[untold niche]

isn't the bullets in DT like hit scan

[untold niche]

i see tenks dood

[marble crater]

I don't know

[untold niche]

im pretty sure they are :v

[lyric burrow]

Dt is hitscan

Last i knew

[marble crater]

Maybe that's why I miss so many shots on my Vet, yes this has to be it

[lyric burrow]

One of the reasons why ogryn shield plant just got people shot still

[untold niche]

also why ogryn shield plant block sniper for him and not the people behind

[lyric burrow]

I cant actually confirm this but thats what ive always heard

And its believeable

[untold niche]

i experienced it myself already

was quite funny

[upper sun]

wait seriously

ogryn shields only stop snipers for you

[untold niche]

if you think about it
it draws a ray until it hits a wall, ogryn is modified to be "unhittable" from the angle, but the ray doesn't stop on ogryn, ray detect teammate behind

[marble crater]

Because of the warp or something

[upper sun]

bruh this fucking game

[untold niche]

thats how things cleave (just a smart guess)

[lyric burrow]

Oh wait theres like no travel time

Yeah its almost def hitscan

Didnt think about that

[untold niche]

yes thats why its hitscan

[plucky flax]

I used to be on zealot chat only when game first came out but then it got really weird.

[untold niche]

xD

was this not the first thing you thought of

[upper sun]

trying to understand DT is like trying to unravel the spaghetti code of a schizophrenic OS developer

[untold niche]

not really

the ogryn shield thing is logical

[lyric burrow]

Tbh i did not connect the dots on this one

Until just now

[untold niche]

u silly goose

[upper sun]

zealot chat is food posting and mocking like two people

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/fetter-yoshi-yoshi-fetti-gif-24291890

[upper sun]

sometimes those two people are not on and you can talk about builds

[lyric burrow]

Tbf questions do get answered

Even if we are talking amongst ourselves

[plucky flax]

I dunno what it is now. Last year when game got really bad and stale it was like a lot of femboy/homosexual-like chat. Which is nothing wrong, but it should be done on private server not on public.

[marble crater]

psyker chat is a certain someone trying to get everyone to play blaze trauma and have it buffed at the same time

[upper sun]

eh most of the stuff about zealot has already been asked or posted in a guide somewhere

[cinder moon]

and the occasional argument about kinetic flayer

[upper sun]

half the time you can find your question already answered

[cinder moon]

[lyric burrow]

Ok i do not see this anymore

[crude vortex]

no being gay in psyker chat....

[lyric burrow]

Unless im just not there at those times

[marble crater]

kinetic flayer bad

[plucky flax]

I dunno whoever would want people to play blaze trauma it's so bad. Pls buff

[untold niche]

im putting this very objectively,
i think it depends on if you are a conservative person or not.
||i am tho||

[upper sun]

psyker chat... where we actually talk about the game!!!!

[crude vortex]

kinetic flayer funny

[cinder moon]

kinetic flayer good (but build dependent)

[crude vortex]

Psyker chat is the most casual of the actual game discussion

[plucky flax]

Idc about the topic itself. But extremely off topic like that shouldn't be on a public gameplay discussion forum.

I think moderator went there to tell people to stop(?)

[untold niche]

i like ogryn chat the most (as in for their character, they are very passionate about their character)

[crude vortex]

Ogryn chat - vibing

I have no idea what goes on in veteran chat I'm never there

[untold niche]

psyker chat usually arguing, usually two semi regulars arguing

[upper sun]

ye i second that i dont care about people's opinions about irl stuff i go to video games to escape reality

[crude vortex]

so it's general chat 2

[untold niche]

apparently the "culture" there is that its a second general chat 2 for zealot chat

[untold niche]

nah arguing about build

similar to what we were arguing about in #general-chat earlier

[marble crater]

When I started playing people did say it's bad, discord converted me to the truth and now it's my most played build together with surge if I want to turn my brain off

[crude vortex]

Zealot chat is just insanity

[upper sun]

speaking of zealot i finally managed to roll this

[untold niche]

OHHH

[upper sun]

it feels alright but i like my evi more

[untold niche]

wait why not BM and HT

i heard ddeci

h

oh

bcause you were given deci

[upper sun]

wat

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is my fav but I play surge the most purely because efficient-ease of play ratio. Blaze trauma use too much brain cells.

[upper sun]

i dont have bm4 yet 😭

[untold niche]

no i was asking why deci instead of HT then i realized its what you rolled

[upper sun]

ye its locked

[plucky flax]

I have really good antax and rashad on zealot.

[upper sun]

post

[untold niche]

his fucking rashad is 80* 60

[plucky flax]

I use both of them depend on the build.

[untold niche]

fuck you agent i want 80* 60 rashad on my vet

[marble crater]

Which blitz do you use with surge now that smite + shriek makes you crash?

[plucky flax]

I still use smite. It doesn't crash for me?

But I rarely ever use smite.

I maybe use it 1 or 2 times a map.

[untold niche]

why use, just lose without using it

[upper sun]

i have like 4 antax i know nothing about what to look for in them

[untold niche]

like god intended

🐭

[plucky flax]

Me 2 axes.

[untold niche]

SEE 80* 60

[upper sun]

hmmmm

[untold niche]

hand over

your rashad

[plucky flax]

Just craft harder.

It's ez.

[marble crater]

Same, but I don't want to crash when I do end up doing that. Lucky for you if you don't crash, maybe your team does though?

[upper sun]

so antax is built the same as rashad right?

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-monkey-hit-gif-26171913

[plucky flax]

Yeah if you left click they are the same. Rashad has faster heavies, antax has better push attack and slightly better cleave.

Both gud both kill everything.

I use rashad with martyrdom build and antax with momentum build.

[untold niche]

wait why antax instead of rashad for mommentum

[upper sun]

ye i tried rashad with charge and marty it felt alright

thrust isnt used for them tho why is that?

[plucky flax]

Momentum does less damage and less attack speed, so I have to weave in push attack more. And antax push attack is much much better than rashad.

Because you spam left click for 95% of targets.

Only heavies for monster and crusher so it's dead blessing a lot of time.

Headtaker just increases damage against everything.

And BM make horde into blender.

[plucky flax]

Ultimately it's my preference from my testing. If you prefer rashad just play it everywhere, or if you prefer antax just play it everywhere.

[cinder moon]

vent+smite will randomly crash out single players or some/all of the lobby

that clip i crashed everyone

[untold niche]

oh weave in PA to stack up on HT and SA?

[plucky flax]

When did this bug start?

[cinder moon]

the most recent patch is when i started noticing it

[plucky flax]

No just for safety.

[cinder moon]

i've only crashed myself that once

usually i crash out other players

[plucky flax]

Because I am not on martyrdom, I can't afford to just hit trade and not block ever.

[upper sun]

i think the same hotfix that ruined the carnival door

[untold niche]

so usually you PA instead of just push?

[plucky flax]

Yeah on antax always push attack.

Spam left click and weave in push attack occasionally.

[marble crater]

Oh, which one? The one after the open area leading into the cellar thing?

[upper sun]

ye

[untold niche]

imagine if DT let you attack cancel with block, and PA is a damage spike with an internal cooldown, so your DPS depends on you cancelling as accurate as possible to weave more PAs in

[marble crater]

So the enemies opening the door after the dark room wave clear is on purpose now?

[untold niche]

[plucky flax]

I cheated this is with martyrdom. But if you have high momentum stacks it's similar killing power.

[untold niche]

dats cool

how many cleave

[plucky flax]

Full game with momentum antax stealth loner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2mFLpbiABo

Ez scoreboard.

853 melee kills kinda gud.

[marble crater]

Stealth and loner are two things I don't want to see on my zealot teammates, too many bad experiences

[plucky flax]

Yes.

People just hate stealth loner for no reason.

[untold niche]

i like stealth alot, very utility

[plucky flax]

Like try it and see, it's op.

[untold niche]

ez revive, ez objective, one tap reaper
can like kill two cara with one swing from behind

[plucky flax]

Can go solo and not worry about toughness. Do all objectives, ress, stealth to shooters backline.

[upper sun]

ur clearly not auric ready our lord and savior tanner said until death is a noob trap

[untold niche]

where he say i want see

[plucky flax]

Until death and HR best 2 talents.

I always take them.

[untold niche]

what is HR

[marble crater]

I had a few who saved the game with it, I know it can be very strong, but most of the time the people don't play it like that sadly. Just like some psyker use smite for 90% of the mission

[plucky flax]

Imagine dying but not dying.

Holy rev.

[untold niche]

the one after until deht?

[plucky flax]

Until death is death resist, holy rev heal to 25%.

[untold niche]

ah

ya

[upper sun]

https://youtu.be/q-kk6us30LM?feature=shared&t=968

[untold niche]

think positive light, smite 90% means you are winning

WHY THE FUCK IS DISCORD NOT REPLING

[upper sun]

yeah i always say listen to his explanation but not his opnion

[untold niche]

@marble crater

[plucky flax]

People can play what they want I'd never flame others for their build.

So I am not a fan of these 'play x or you're noob' type of post.

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb04150-5d3d-405d-aad9-fe32fd6e691c/holy-man this is perfectly fine rite?

[plucky flax]

Seems troll build.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Pls no meme

[upper sun]

ur clearly not man enough to do +2 stamina and all or nothing on a tax

[plucky flax]

No I am actually meta gamer.

I only use what I think is actually really good. I don't troll my team with meme stuff (very rarely).

[marble crater]

Blaze trauma is so bad it's borderline trolling though

[plucky flax]

Even when I test weird build I try my best to win but sometimes it's impossible (me bad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wnbvh9uTs0

[untold niche]

also isn't this node poo poo

[marble crater]

50% more toughness from melee kills?

[untold niche]

iirc josho said it wasn't that good and never take it

[plucky flax]

It's not bad if you want throwing knives and not running crit weapon.

I take it with my antax throwing knife stealth loner build.

[marble crater]

I take it with my hammer build when I want the dodge toughness

[untold niche]

this tanner guy has so much mods

[cinder moon]

thumbnail on this video is so cooked i thought the green circle was kermit arms at first

was just like "what a weird mod"

[untold niche]

HAHAHHAHA

where discord
also who is jtclive

[untold niche]

title

im such a god gamer for playing a5histg

[upper sun]

heh looks like you've had it easy playing csgo and cod i just got out of a 250 hour sesh of maelstrom while crushing my legs in a hydraulic press

uhh actually darktide is super easy the devs need to make it far harder they should make the game so only 2% of players can play it

[untold niche]

i feel the difficulty comes from the build :p

ok in that regard i shouldn't have said that

sorry

[manic merlin]

good roll?

[radiant frigate]

met a psyker who always said "aye"

it was a weird game

triple loner

[radiant frigate]

low damage very sad

[plucky flax]

Put dumdum on it.

[jovial juniper]

Hope I end up on the 2%

[radiant frigate]

also that yeah

put dumdum on it

[willow hazel]

Also may as well swap crit chance for Flak/Unyielding

[golden kite]

Almost every forum post about anything that’s above average. Should just make “warp operative” missions where it replaces every enemy with chaos marines

[upper sun]

hey as long as they dont change auric damnation i'm fine with that

because thats kinda perfect for me anyways

most of the people that want extra difficulty are saying they wanna make auric 10x harder that i dont agree with

[golden kite]

Agreed. One thing you forgot though is nerfing every weapon to the warp that is above power maul tier

[radiant frigate]

leave illisi alone

[upper sun]

no buff them to insane levels but make them have a chance to spawn extra enemies on use

[radiant frigate]

illisi now has a chance to summon a daemon on activation

Great Unclean One has entered the chat.

ah fuck

[upper sun]

"daemons have a 50/50 chance of being either on your side or the enemy's"

[golden kite]

^ Buff bolt gun but make it have Astartes recoil

[upper sun]

damn we should work with fatshark the updates will take 10 years longer to make but will be glorious

[untold niche]

i want a slightly harder version thats all
with reference to what i said earlier, im not calling the game easy, im just saying the game isn't like hard
(which is a good thing for me, DT is like the perfect casual game for me difficulty wise)

[upper sun]

why isnt anyone playing DT sven?
well it appears that most of our fanbase has died of old age

[spice veldt]

good thing we have multiple difficulties

this isn't a game with a singular difficulty where players are constrained to it

[upper sun]

yeah dont change the difficulties just add another level

[untold niche]

yeah that swhat i want

[spice veldt]

but why

[untold niche]

i want like a a5histg+

[spice veldt]

we already have 5 difficultie

we do not need to split the playerbase even more

and there's already segmentation with low/normal/high int

and then with auric missions

[upper sun]

because with the stupid amount of resources needed for crafting heresy isnt worth the time

[spice veldt]

damn almost like we should rebalance resource gain

instead of implementing a cascading change like a 6th difficulty

[upper sun]

yeah i agree with that

eh

[spice veldt]

don't be stupid and suggest changes that will interact with other systems

[upper sun]

t2 and t1 are pretty much the same anyways

[spice veldt]

why not just go with localized changes that will specifically affect what we want

[untold niche]

you ahve a point arco

For discussion sake:
i feel they could uh combine heresy and damn into damn difficulty
combine difficulty 1 and 2 into difficulty 1 with 2's experience/ dockets

[upper sun]

bruh

[spice veldt]

yeah, and my intent is to widen the ranges of difficulty that they encompass

that's why i'm suggesting we make do with what we have instead of stacking on ANOTHER difficulty

on top of the multiple layers that we already have

[untold niche]

so new damn would be like third difficulty.
Then difficulty 4 could be auric + modifiers
Difficulty 5 could be auric mael, but removing bullshit ones

Personally i would want a dedicated difficulty for like a harder a5histg though

a5histg with mael director

[spice veldt]

i'd keep with the current difficulties since it does seem that people do play on those difficulties

e.g., malice is the most played difficulty

makes sense to have 2 difficulties below and above

[untold niche]

i don't feel theres much difference if not any between heresy and damnation though

[spice veldt]

yeah, which is why i'd make damnation harder to differentiate it

and whatnot

[hexed geyser]

Instead of adding a new difficulty just add more operative modifiers. No one remember we lose a wound at heresy level, why not add a -10% health or toughness, or damage modifiers. Or even limiting most players to one wound, that would be evil but efficient

[spice veldt]

do a l4d2 moment and make bodyshots deal 25% damage

[hexed geyser]

Like, just making wound curios mandatory if you dont want to die instantly would lower most people's hp by 20%

[untold niche]

no one remember wounds because its harder to revive in harder difficulties

its not that its unimpactful

because if it was i woulddn't be crying about stealth poxybs

[spice veldt]

at least having zero wounds means that 1 mistake = ded

and things can cascade from being one player down

[untold niche]

auric = 1 total wound only

[spice veldt]

i'd like some more non-gimmicky changes cuz stuff like the current maelstroms is mostly special waves stuff which is peepee poopoo

[plucky flax]

I'm still in sedition.

[spice veldt]

the highly engaging gameplay of dog/burster/mutant waves

[untold niche]

you forgot to take your pills on time again

[untold niche]

i really like the mutie waves because i find them funny

[plucky flax]

RIP ears.

[upper sun]

WUAAAAAAAAAA

[hexed geyser]

They are. Exept when they put flamers with them

[upper sun]

i like sniper purges

[untold niche]

the worst thing is director doesn't spawn the mutie wave to fuck you up (at least not often enough), he spawns them at the most convenient timing where everyone just shrugs them off like flies

[hexed geyser]

I like sniper purges until i cant count the red lines.

[untold niche]

does sniper pruge also ahve the fog?

i really hate the fog

[halcyon gust]

Yeah

Those 2 modifiers are together

[upper sun]

I think sometimes its fog sometimes its power outage

[untold niche]

can't see the ranged elite/ special hiding 10 meters away

[hexed geyser]

Sniper gauntlet would be the basic one. Purge is ventilation purge

[spice veldt]

also indicative of the enemy composition issue
cuz the game tends to spawn groups of the exact same enemy at once

[untold niche]

actually fog and ourage whats the diff
is it like power outage you can see them if their helmets have lights like the green gunner

[spice veldt]

e.g., 10 shotgunners instead of a mixed patrol of shotgunners + gunners + others

[upper sun]

infantry gun lights dont work with fog

[spice veldt]

and uncoordinated special waves where you can get easy special waves or 4 fucking bombers at once

[untold niche]

i never seen people use them though
wait is the game dark on purpose so that people use their lights
No wonder i found the scalign so weird i edited my gamma

[upper sun]

power outage is crazy fun when all the randos click somehow and work together had one game where we all took turns lighting for eachother while reloading

[halcyon gust]

Trust your senses and fire into the Fog----Wait is that a Deamon host----- OH SHIT

[upper sun]

cheater!!!!!

[untold niche]

i am

[upper sun]

yeah happened to me once

[hexed geyser]

Mod users=cheaters

[halcyon gust]

I admit this has happened 3 different times

[untold niche]

dude the 4 bombers thign during the bomber meta was why i got my bomber resist on psyker

[upper sun]

for some reason the game decided to spawn the DH ONCE on the other side of the usual stop in a vent purge map

[untold niche]

i had this convo many times.
tl;dr
I feel some are cheats, but i don't judge people for using it.
I "cheat" myself too, but don't use those that i find are too "cheaty"

[spice veldt]

wish bombers had other types of grenades instead of just the area-denial fire nade

[hexed geyser]

If ppl play with them that's fine with me, its a team game.

[upper sun]

simply give yourself a lobotmy before playing so you dont cheat either by using your brain

[hexed geyser]

Krak or flash bombers? Hell no

[spice veldt]

krak would be a banger

one-shot players

[untold niche]

i don't really get what you are trying to say here :v
i feel theres some offhand remark, but it doesn't really make sense.

[halcyon gust]

New update: Bombers now run at you with all his bombs beeping at once to give you a nice hug

[hexed geyser]

Long range crushers lmao

[spice veldt]

i'm thinking of just a frag grenade which is more of an instantaneous thing but more initially damaging of course

[spice veldt]

and magnetizing OwO

[halcyon gust]

As long it goes straight to the crotch area. The sticky bomb has spoken

[spice veldt]

or them just lowering the max # of bombers that can spawn at once since it's 4 bombers max currently on hishock

[untold niche]

bomber now throw sticky solution that slows your movement speed, and weakens dodges

[spice veldt]

OwO

[upper sun]

many things can be classified as cheating it doesnt matter much what mods you use and many times the cheating mods can correct the game not showing the right sound triggers

[radiant frigate]

bomber now tethers you to the center

[spice veldt]

northstar 😎

[untold niche]

but hp bar changes your kill prior.
And again, I already said i don't jduge / mind people using the mods. I myself use them.
But i do consider them "cheats"
Some people can't seem to accept and make the differentiation that while i can think of them as cheats, i also find them acceptable.

'FUCK MY KB not again ;v

[spice veldt]

give the heretics titanfall 2 abilities and call it a day

[hexed geyser]

Ok now who can contact fatshark and give them our ideas

[upper sun]

the game displays damage on enemies based on how much they're shot that can be a visual indicator instead of healthbars BUT again the game doesnt use it correctly simply applying a vet tag on a target gives it a damaged skin so you would think it was already shot

[untold niche]

but the game doesn't. so its an unfair advantage.

[plucky flax]

fr

[spice veldt]

i do wish that there was a damage mod that showed the damage on a fixed position of your screen like in tf2

[upper sun]

nah if you look closely the lower an enemys health is the more visual wounds they had

[spice veldt]

i think the tag is just the generic "debuffed" skin

e..g, crushers become shiny

[upper sun]

what

[hexed geyser]

People dont like seeing a youtuber better than them

[plucky flax]

Shhh just let it happen.

All my mods are on nexus so it's legal.

[upper sun]

numeric UI really should be in the game same for multiple keybinds

[untold niche]

i didn't know, and thats pretty cool. Does crushers also have damage states? o.o,
Anyway wuldn't it still be an unfair advantage? its hard to see.
I mean theres also stuff like numeric mod giving you amount of dodges you currently have now.

[upper sun]

pfff i have no idea half the time game moves too fast to notice

[untold niche]

visibility has caused concerns over game balance afterall, that cod skin with full black.

[upper sun]

although its super easy to notice with bulwarks their backs get really bloody and gross

[untold niche]

and idk why you want to be idk whats the correct word here really. "not nice"?
maybe the word "cheating" is too harsh and brings negative connotations, but i feel the mods do give you unfair advantage.

[radiant frigate]

decode helper is QoL if anything

[plucky flax]

FartShart didn't take it down.

It's free real estate.

[radiant frigate]

plus the data interrogator inputs are actualy kind of annoying to do sometimes

[upper sun]

i hate the mini game so much its unreal

[radiant frigate]

like when they all spawn next to each other

very epic

time to wait for the thing to go by 4 times

[untold niche]

hmmm, without decode helper, if the second one is right after the first one, some people's reaction time might not be able to do it, so have to wait one whole "bounce" meaning you would have taken longer

(Im not saying the minigame is fun though its just purely in context)

[upper sun]

i once got all 4 in one column

[radiant frigate]

yes and that is QoL

[untold niche]

that would be an unfair advantage i feel?
one bounce is surely enough time for that pox walker to hit you out of it

also please uh, im not saying unfair advantage = bad

im just saying it is an unfair advanage

[radiant frigate]

if anything it just makes it more like vermintide objectives which just had a timer

it is certainly an advantage

[upper sun]

no its very fair because the data interrogator reduce the fun i have fighting

[radiant frigate]

agony

[untold niche]

dats true

[untold niche]

smh i typed this for you before because you wanted the copy pasta and you didn't even save it

my love gone unappreciated

[plucky flax]

It's easier to just paste the image.

[upper sun]

keep making videos i wanna start leaving multiple comments in different youtube accounts saying the most brain numbing bullshit there is

[untold niche]

#1 fan

[radiant frigate]

something like "you have chaos in your name, you are a heretic and a fraud, unfollowed, reported, and doxxed."

[untold niche]

just post whatever that tanner guy is saying

[plucky flax]

AgentChaos 🤝 UnsanctionedPsyker

Totally working for the inquisition.

[upper sun]

also you dont do voice overs right?

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[marble crater]

Doch

[stone canyon]

Workable base for Surge Staff?

[upper sun]

because i heard a ringtone in the background once i think you have the mic added to OBS or smth

[untold niche]

@spice veldt oh yeah, i wanted to say
i think the difficulty balancing would be quite hard as well because im pretty sure malice is balanced by the devs as "what most people will play"
So that begs the qn, how do they want to balance the fourth and fifth difficulties?
Or is it simply just a "step up"?

[marble crater]

If you are lucky, it's one bad perk away from being bricked

[untold niche]

i don't think FS has a clear idea of what they want diff 4 and diff 5 to be

[plucky flax]

Yeah my microphone was left on for some reason.

[spice veldt]

and prob concerned with other issues

they also have a tendency of not doing the easy fixes

at least not initially

[stone canyon]

Bricked?

[spice veldt]

e.g., it's (relatively) trivial to make enemy spawn compositions better and less ubiquitous compared to a whole weapon/enemy number reblanace

[marble crater]

Unyielding is not ideal, but not useless at least

[plucky flax]

I recommend getting a surge staff with open perks and nexus+flurry.

[lethal lagoon]

Change focused channeling to terrifying barrage and upgrade

[spice veldt]

that's the one easy change to go for that doesn't demand looking at other systems

[lethal lagoon]

Flak unyielding Isn't bad

[marble crater]

[stone canyon]

Sadly i dont have terrifying barrage 🤷‍♂️

[upper sun]

surge secondary attacks target the base armor stat of an enemy for the majority unyielding will help with bosses bulwarks and reapers

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

i feel its because have a strong vision but they are pressured to do certain stuffs (and/or by a certain time)
Certain stuff wouldn't "fit" with easy fixes, or eat least you need to backtract them.

This is my guess.

I.e. if you make enemy comps diverse, now begs the question, are the ratios going to be random? how will you stack them? if for example right now its very easy, i can give you 1x "big" blob of elite, followed by "medium" horde and 1x "small" blob of elite and 2 specials.
All the blobs can be random and the balance is somewhat consistent.

[upper sun]

any tier of barrage?

[untold niche]

theres no real point to make that change and figure out how you going to balance the tension all over again.

[stone canyon]

Yeah weirdly enough i just have Warp Nexus in lvl 2-4 for it

[spice veldt]

at the same time, they can go for a more incremental solution
e.g., if you're going to spawn shotgunners, then you might as well spawn other ranged enemies

and perhaps a lower concentration of melee enemies

[lethal lagoon]

That makes it less worth to upgrade, but it might still be good

[spice veldt]

either way, it's something that's moving in the right direction

[lethal lagoon]

[spice veldt]

and enemy composition is pretty much something that won't affect other systems, especially since we're starting from the bottom (where enemies of only one type spawn in blobs)

[stone canyon]

Tried to roll Barrage into this

Instead got perfect blessing by luck

[spice veldt]

there's only upwards to go from here, really

[lethal lagoon]

crit bonus is the dump so that's about as meta as you can reasonbly get

[upper sun]

bruh

[stone canyon]

So which perks for that?

[marble crater]

Flak and Elite, imo

[plucky flax]

Wut crit bonus gives crit chance.

[upper sun]

i'm gonna get an aneuryzm

yeah id go flak elite too

[lethal lagoon]

Well you don't want it fully dumped, but in the case of a perfect staf, 80/80/80/80/60, crit bonus is the 60.

Maybe 70/70 with quell spd

[untold niche]

i mean it could, my guess is that certain areas of the map have some ratio of ranged and melee that the devs want, or have a high chance of spawning (e.g. a reaper)
lmk if im wrong because its interesting. it defo feels like some place are more likely to have certain patrols

[lethal lagoon]

Which is actually basically what he has

[upper sun]

yeah

watch ur back @stone canyon that staff is as good as mine

[stone canyon]

Time to go try Surge Staff for first time ever, guess i need a build for it too

[untold niche]

wait why not quell speed as 60?
o.o

[spice veldt]

yeah there seems to be some spots where patrols spawn

[radiant frigate]

so you can cast more and quell for toughness faster i guess

[untold niche]

at hig hperil you going quell for quite a bit anyway right, or with surge people don't perild efge.
i don't know because i don't play surge

[spice veldt]

as far as I can tell though, there's very little in terms of map-specific stuff besides spawn locations

[plucky flax]

No dump stat on surge staff.

[lethal lagoon]

To get 1 tick peril edging I don't think 60 will cut it.

Yeah there really isn't

[untold niche]

i can't tell you the exact locations but i swear some places feel they have a higher chance of ther being a reaper in that patrol spot

and certain places feel like its always 3 gunners there instead of say 3 ragers

[lethal lagoon]

But crit bonus is gonna effect ya the least, esp since most of your crits will be overkill. And crit chance is already so high so having 2-3% extra does very little.

[plucky flax]

Charge rate is the one with the least volitile scaling.

So if anything charge rate should be lowest stat.

[untold niche]

damn surge sounds like a pricy

[plucky flax]

Also offset by flurry.

[untold niche]

staff

[lethal lagoon]

Flak is required, the second is whatever you want. Elite, crit chance, Maniac, Unyielding.

I personally feel the charge rate pretty hard cause I orignally had the same idea and then used one with ~60~ charge rate

[plucky flax]

Surge is actually not hard to make due to smol blessing pool.

[lethal lagoon]

It felt awful

[plucky flax]

Way easier to make than blaze trauma.

[radiant frigate]

surge has like 5 blessings which makes things easy

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is argueably the easiest weapon to make in the game

[radiant frigate]

Real

[upper sun]

and its never the two you want 😭

[untold niche]

wait do you need godrolls for surge

or at least near god roll

[lethal lagoon]

I guess it's kinda demanding on your gold for grey purchases, but the RNG is low for upgrading.

[plucky flax]

All these guys on reddit posting their 'godroll' and it's super trash.

[lethal lagoon]

Cause surge is ass below 370 honestly.

[plucky flax]

I've seen sub 10 real 'godroll'.

[untold niche]

MAKE THEM QUIVER WITH YOUR 80* 60

[plucky flax]

I don't have anything I'd consider perfect.

[radiant frigate]

i have things that i consider "good enough"

[untold niche]

Isn't your bt like 80* and then maybe one 79, and one 59

[stone canyon]

Mine came out 549, its not perfect either

[upper sun]

uhhh excuse me but my purge with crit damage/weakspot/barrage/channel is ideal

[untold niche]

or was it rashad, i can't rmb, you posted it just now

[upper sun]

actually can purge even get a weakspot blessing?

[untold niche]

that woud be funny

[plucky flax]

Rashad but it doesn't have double t4 perks.

[untold niche]

like you give monk a comb

[plucky flax]

And it was 80 79 80 80.

[untold niche]

what about your BT

wrong reply

but

@plucky flax

[marble crater]

Trash

[plucky flax]

No it's not 380 my blaze trauma.

Can be slightly better.

(But it's bad staff pls don't use)

I think clad has a blaze trauma very close to mine.

[untold niche]

smh and this is my actual best

[marble crater]

I can play only surge for 2 months if it means blaze trauma gets a buff

[upper sun]

GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED IT https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1222474617973641257/sddefault.jpg

[plucky flax]

[stone canyon]

Does True Aim work with Surge?

[plucky flax]

If it was 380 and more warp resist.

[untold niche]

come gimme

gimme

[plucky flax]

Would be veri cool.

[untold niche]

GIVE ME

[lethal lagoon]

Only tier 3 blazing, terrible

[plucky flax]

53 is kinda low.

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

@upper sun how much dockets and plasteel u spent

[lethal lagoon]

So who here is a fool that tried to roll for tier 4 blazing, get those hands up.

[upper sun]

i have another one the other way round but only flak 3

[upper sun]

you're gonna hate me if i say

[untold niche]

like what 200k docket and 2k plasteel

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

i thought i was buying void staves

[plucky flax]

I bought this one from melk for the memes even though my current one is better.

[upper sun]

i stopped after i baught ~6 and i ended up with twins

[stone canyon]

This build solid? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b062381-fe0c-4bf5-8bda-21a1e23f6583/auric-malestrom-1-million-damage-psyker

[untold niche]

what twins mean

[upper sun]

the two staves i posted together

[untold niche]

ahh

[stone canyon]

Now i need to make Illisi too i guess to pair with this

[lethal lagoon]

No.

[plucky flax]

No 5% crit chance node on surge.

And bb with surge.

[upper sun]

also no need for bb on surge

wildfire is meh

[untold niche]

you not running purge, don't take flayer
not running purge/ blaze, don't take wildfire

[plucky flax]

Wait wtf it's blazing spirits shred sword.

[lethal lagoon]

That's a fairly hilarious build that shows how strong surge with flaming shriek is. No matter how bad you are, you can succeed with that combo.

[plucky flax]

My man is memeing.

[marble crater]

I would change Soulstealer to Quietude, Smite instead of BB, remove Wildfire and Evasion, get Kinetic Deflection

[plucky flax]

No always take wildfire if you play warp charge creeping flames spam.

[upper sun]

it was my build he was stealing my illisi https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1209223667964317787/f6a89e6cfe8ab3fa06a75526f879decb.jpg

[untold niche]

i don't think you should take EE as well, since you are not using gun. but if any surge player disagree then listen to them.

[upper sun]

(its a trash sword btw) do not do shred blazing spirit

[plucky flax]

I would plug my surge illisi smite build.

[untold niche]

those three, you can change to quietude + KD

[untold niche]

no wonder he took wilfire

Damn

thats quite cool

i should try that too

[lethal lagoon]

The build functions despite his choice not because of his choices

Flaming Shriek Surge is bae

[marble crater]

It is cool, not the strongest, but setting things on fire with your sword is indeed very cool

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

i am not a shred/blaze enjoyer 😭

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/tanjiro-hinokami-kagura-demon-slayer-mugen-train-anime-gif-27224940

i should stop posting anime gifs but

the animation is very cool.

[upper sun]

fun fact those lines and all the fire/air breathing styles do not exist all the slayers are schizophrenic

[untold niche]

but then how they burn the monster skin

[upper sun]

they dont

[untold niche]

are u sure because i have been training my water breathing for 30 days already

[upper sun]

:thonk:

[untold niche]

i think im starting to become better at jeet koon do

[stone canyon]

Where can i see it, checking your youtube out but cant find atleast so far

[marble crater]

A lot less cool when I learned that

[plucky flax]

Right at the start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz7L0QuU6Us

[stone canyon]

Thanks, gonna try it out

[plucky flax]

Don't try the blitz cancel meme.

It's like 10% dps increase but rip fingers.

[lethal lagoon]

Did they ever fix the surge lightning animation for the weapon custom mod?

[plucky flax]

Ye it's fixed.

[lethal lagoon]

[stone canyon]

Does Maccabian IV work well with Surge or do i want Illisi?

[upper sun]

you need a melee weapon with good clear because surge is bad with clear

[marble crater]

Illisi, sadly

[plucky flax]

If you want to clear horde with smite then you can run ds4.

[stone canyon]

Ok ill try my luck crafting Illisi then now

[plucky flax]

But smite horde clear is slow.

[untold niche]

if he runs assail then he could run ds4 right

same as volvo gunker

[marble crater]

And might get you flamed

[plucky flax]

Assail with surge is counter productive imo.

[lethal lagoon]

(do it anyways)

[marble crater]

Please don't

[lethal lagoon]

Look at those crits and weakspots

[ember solstice]

Game crashes RIGHT BEFORE I EXTRACT

I hate darktide sometimes

[stone canyon]

I guess first attempt bricked?

[untold niche]

it says zero crit

[lethal lagoon]

Exactly

[untold niche]

how come

[lethal lagoon]

No weakspots, no crits,

[untold niche]

how do you have no crits

smite?

[lethal lagoon]

It's a puzzle for you to solve

[plucky flax]

He's veri pro.

[untold niche]

does smite crit?

[lethal lagoon]

No

[untold niche]

.

🐭

gather 4 friends, all run smite?

then walk to elevator

ez

smite boss to death

[lethal lagoon]

4 flaming shrieks with Smite might actually go hard, boss wouldn't even be that bad.

[stone canyon]

Oof, if i slap Uncanny 3 instead of Riposte it would work?

[untold niche]

BoN going to become BBQ

[ember solstice]

sell csgo crates
buy aquilas

Ez

[fresh reef]

Chat, what gun do I use for Scrier's/DD if I want to play something that isn't Columnus 5, aka broken?

[stone canyon]

This came out pretty okay

[lethal lagoon]

Hunt the lights with revolver

[stone canyon]

Uncanny+Maniacs works, can change those other two

[lethal lagoon]

The Old laspistol is fun too

[vestal fulcrum]

This is good indeed

[lethal lagoon]

The burning with scrier's crit is pewpew

[marble crater]

I want those tool tips on Xbox

[lethal lagoon]

🔥

[stone canyon]

Gonna be funky going into mission with melee and ranged ive neither ever played before

[marble crater]

Good luck

[plucky flax]

Just spam f and call it a day.

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

H1L2 for horde clear on Illisi

[lethal lagoon]

I prefer special heavies cause it's satisfying.

[untold niche]

Could run volvo

Or agri iag

[plucky flax]

I prefer light spam.

Combo is too hard.

[untold niche]

Das right

[lethal lagoon]

Light spam is nice too, slaughter and/or uncanny get's going and it's just go brr

[marble crater]

Sometimes I really can't tell if you are joking or being serious

[plucky flax]

For real tho slaughterer 4 is strong light spam do a lot of work. I weave in special light to keep peril high. Special heavy is better but cast time is slow.

If I have space I'd do it but I do way more special light.

[upper sun]

the cast time feels lower for deimos if you start charging a heavy then do a special activation idk if this works for illisi tho

[willow hazel]

any revolver or laspistol works great

[stone canyon]

Went down to Malice just incase, these new ones felt weird but Illisi has great horde clear for sure

[radiant frigate]

i hate beast of nurgle so much

spits me out into The Netherworld

aaand we are dead

[marble crater]

Nurgle is annoying

[upper sun]

what nurg is peak gameplay

almost the same level of enjoyment i have going melee with a bulwark

[radiant frigate]

fighting a bulwark in melee is at least possible

[upper sun]

ok i take back whatever i said about staff bonks the stagger is stupidly good

[marble crater]

Melee with Bulwark is fine, if I use my perfect strike Evis15

[stone canyon]

Wonder if there is some hotkey bugging out for me because when i tried to Quell my Smite staff, it started hitting melee with it instead?

Why i used mostly just Illisi more

[upper sun]

yeah but what if there are 4 of them doing a Roman shield wall

[radiant frigate]

💀

[upper sun]

the worst gameplay i ever had in this game was when i got locked in a corridor with a mutie and a bulwark

i actually almost quit the game

[radiant frigate]

the worst thing i have ever seen is entering a corridor with a crusher group in front

bulwark comes in from the back

bomber covers the exit route in flames

the only thing that could make this worse is bursters

[stone canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8JgIjm1FOI

Quell here looks normal and works

Mine was just doing melee with the staff and not quelling properly

[radiant frigate]

not quelling at all?

[stone canyon]

Had to turn these off, since i think they are the issue, changing to american keyboard layout without öäå which i have set for some things, so they suddenly appear in weird places

It was Shift+Alt something to change language as hotkey on Win11

[radiant frigate]

that's fun

[stone canyon]

Which is very awkward for Darktide as i have Shift for dodge/sprint and Alt for crouch

½ to see what mission it is, caused me to instead shout "thanks!" when i changed keyboard layout with that hotkey thing

Wish one of the stims would also Quell for you similar to Shriek

Then i could perhaps drop it and use Shield

[near bobcat]

huh, just got this on a devil sword.

[stone canyon]

Like Yellow stim, which almost everyone skips taking, if it also dropped your Peril to 50% or 0%, might be useful for certain Psykers

[near bobcat]

Think it can be salvaged?

[stone canyon]

51% mobility is sweet since thats the breakpoint for max evades

[upper sun]

blue stim speeds up charge idk if it helps quell

doesnt feel like it does

[stone canyon]

I guess those perks are useable? So if you switch Blessings?

[near bobcat]

ahh, so both blessings are trash, darn it.

[stone canyon]

Also Mk IV is the preferred version of Devil Sword

[upper sun]

change the blessings perks are workable its not awful

[near bobcat]

yeah this is my tragedy of an MKIV

[upper sun]

the clear of a dclaw 4 with savage sweep and rampage is stupid

[stone canyon]

Its odd such weapon has impact blessings, its katana, not a blunt tool

[upper sun]

impact is weird it was a far bigger deal in VT2

here i have no idea if its bad or good

they need more clearly defined stagger levels

[near bobcat]

Darn it

i hate poxwalkers damage so much

[radiant frigate]

epic

[upper sun]

thats not bad

groaner to maniac or unyielding and shred to uncanny and its a great sword

like at least stamina gives you something tangible

for some fucking reason hadron insists on giving slaughter on deimos and executor on illisi

for the love of the emperor you stupid toaster uncross your wires

[marble crater]

Blessed are the omnissiah

[potent echo]

Do you get max stacks of executor if you cleave a row of heads?

[upper sun]

i dont think so but you do get 4 from one special activation or 1 stack from a force push

[potent echo]

Oh yea now that you mentioned it the push seems to favour heads

[jovial juniper]

it does, you can stack true aim with it

[ornate hamlet]

Unhinged game design

[potent echo]

It's kinda nice, not sure if intended or not

[upper galleon]

why tf is rampage B tier

why is crit chance a recomnended perk lmao

[fluid skiff]

Got it as a green from Brunt, did Hadron fuck my shit up or did she make something decent? I've mostly stuck to force swords until now so I've no idea

[crude vortex]

Uncanny good with that, might want to swap Rampage with Precognition, sprint with unyielding perhaps

[lethal lagoon]

mk2 is the worst dueling sword, so even if it was BiS it wouldn't matter

mk4 for best overall, mk5 for the silly-ass dodge slides.

[rich jolt]

Man i always forget the stupid names fs give there weapons

No method just madness

[lethal lagoon]

That's on game's workshop, no?

[rich jolt]

Who knows not like they tell us

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark does mess up quite a lot but you can't blame them for 40k nomenclature.

[rich jolt]

Ok sorry i was going to go look at which one the mk2 was

Mk2 is actually pretty good

Thing messes up hordes

I believe it's actually the best when it comes to pure horde destruction

Use mine with scriers

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it could be the best at unclogging drains, but that's not really relevant.

[rich jolt]

I thought we were talking about how good they were

[lethal lagoon]

horde clear is low priority for dueling sword is my point

[rich jolt]

Depends on what you are using it for

[lethal lagoon]

If you want horde clear, use Illy. Dueling sword is anti-mutant/elite/boss.

A dueling sword that's bad at being a dueling sword and is instead a medicore Illy force sword isn't that great.

I mean use whatever you want, auric maels aren't even hard let alone other diffs.

[wind spruce]

Same reason as bromentum is in the garbage tier for tac axes... pure clownery

[rich jolt]

With the right stuff ive found its nearly as effective as the force sword at clearing and can still kill tougher enemies

I meets a weird middle ground which can be very effective

[lethal lagoon]

[rich jolt]

[lethal lagoon]

You can use 3-4 heavies of the mk4 to kill a crusher, and Illy still has elite clear. Have you used strong versions of those weapons?

[rich jolt]

Ive used a strong version of an illisi and ive seen people go balls to the wall with the rapier

[lethal lagoon]

Well what is your "strong version" of the Illy, Slaughter Uncanny?

Anyways, you have a pretty unpopular opinion, which is actually pretty great

Build diversty

best part about this game

[rich jolt]

I cant tell if youre being nice or passive aggressive😭😭

[fluid skiff]

oh. I hadn't realized the differences in the marks for the dueling sword and I actually had a mk 4 with specialist and elite melee damage perks, precog, and uncanny as well.

[ornate hamlet]

Dueling sword with rampage and riposte is honestly one of my favorite things about psyker

Fuck the dodge activation because a lot of times I'll hear the woosh and the fucking thing won't proc, but when things are actually working as expected it's fucking glorious

It's something I can safely recommend to people looking for a versatile version of the dueling sword

[lethal lagoon]

I'm never passive aggressive, only aggressive.

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-fight-funny-john-west-salmon-commercial-gif-14219430

[lethal lagoon]

Why friend shaped if not friend

[rich jolt]

Nature mean

[ornate hamlet]

hey fellas

[untold niche]

I mean any sword is going to have some weight right

[radiant frigate]

you mean the Correct™️ version

[radiant frigate]

yes but by design they are not impact weapons

they are generally not particularly top-heavy

and they're not good at transfering force

[potent echo]

Not as good but if you have been hit by a ruler you would know it still does force transfer well

[lethal lagoon]

My RNG Correct™️ Illy

Free-perk weapons get me going. ((ignore the perks, I was experimenting))

[radiant frigate]

very nice

[lethal lagoon]

Probably the most RNG perfect thing I have.

[radiant frigate]

"still does" and "is good at it" are different things

illisi still kills crushers
it is not good at it though

just an example

[lethal lagoon]

Get some uncanny stacks going and it's not that bad killing a lone crusher

Definitely not the type of weapon you should rush into an Og pack with though.

[radiant frigate]

very true

[plucky flax]

Uncanny on illisi.

[upper sun]

better than 60% of the other options

[radiant frigate]

take the illisi pill

renounce your classic mage ways

repent

[plucky flax]

Play shred illisi.

More cleave when it crits.

[vestal fulcrum]

It genuinely doesn't have bad crit damage mods

[plucky flax]

If I don't play deflector it'd be shred.

I find it more valuable on illisi than uncanny.

[upper sun]

🤔

[vestal fulcrum]

But you could also be playing Executor/Slaughterer

And you probably don't need Shred then all too well

[radiant frigate]

unstable power slaughterer

[upper sun]

i have a meme one with shred/blazing and +5 crit and its still kinda bad

[radiant frigate]

the overcharged illisi of power..

[plucky flax]

Yeah unstable is good too.

I think executor lose all stacks if miss a headshot?

[upper sun]

executor stacks dont stay as long

[plucky flax]

It doesn't work like uncanny where you keep the stacks.

So it makes it bad imo.

[radiant frigate]

uncanny says weak spot hit
executor says repeated weak spot hit

executor stinky

uncanny fragrant

[vestal fulcrum]

No, but it is relatively easy to stack

[upper sun]

yeah ikno at the very least with executor you get extra power every second attack if you miss

[plucky flax]

Shred and unstable is just easier to play.