psyker-class

[wind spruce]

But it's not in the same league as las pistol or columnus

[untold niche]

idk what gun eh was using but i know for sure he plays it like that

is it 16?

what is max toughness for curios

[wind spruce]

If you like gunker at all try las pistol

[spice veldt]

josho doesn't play psyker much nowadays but i know yoshi plays autopistol

[untold niche]

i don't like assail so i don't play gunker

i don't know if FS make it awkward to use on purpose or just by design

[wind spruce]

I play columnus without assail

Idk how it feels clunky though, interesting take

[rigid sky]

Accatran right? It is on my list

[wind spruce]

Yeah I prefer the faster shooting one, although I honestly haven't given much playtime to the slower one

It's SO much slower, but it is pretty funny how hard it hits

Easily cracks like 1.5k on unyielding

[untold niche]

its not really a "take" just my opinion :v

3 bots and i died so early

i think one guy joined and left

thats why one of the bots hs like 3/4 hp

[halcyon gust]

The experience of when you have no one to control the shooters

[untold niche]

it was quite awkward as well

the bot randomly spread

[patent wing]

numeric ui showing remaining dodges?

[near bobcat]

can someone offer me their surge staff builds so I can git gud with this weapon?

[patent wing]

+flak and nexus+flurry for blessings. use with warp charges and flaming shriek

(and smite)

[upper sun]

flak is a must and nexus/flurry second perk can be elite/maniac/crit chance

i prefer elite

[patent wing]

i like unyielding

[near bobcat]

This is mine

[upper sun]

also yeah creeping flames smite and warp siphon

[near bobcat]

i have all of that, so clearly i just suck lol

[patent wing]

also dont put points in smite buffs

and u hopefully use empathic evasion

[upper sun]

yeah EE is great with surge

[near bobcat]

...nope

one with the warp, let me see what i can do there

here let me see if i can't jury rig my build around to your suggestions

[upper sun]

this is what i use for surge

[patent wing]

not using PC with surge smite? bruh risky

[upper sun]

yeah idk i just use smite because i dont wanna use bb or assail

[patent wing]

sometimes i think of dropping the 5/6 warp charges for Kinetic deflection

[upper sun]

warp is kind of a must for surge imo

[patent wing]

smite is good because it offers good crowd control and dmg with flame shriek whilst needing no upgrades like assail

[patent wing]

yeah but the last 5/6 are debatable

[patent wing]

warp expenditure ist not good and u miss out on mettle

[upper sun]

you need a bunch of charges to one shot gunners without crits

[patent wing]

also battle meditation is not good

[upper sun]

thats my reasoning behind it at least

[patent wing]

yeah thats why i dont have KD but its tempting

u also should invest in the 5% crit perk above kinetic deflection

just use mine or clads build depending on personal taste but i recommend taking perilous combustion, its value rises in auric

[near bobcat]

done

ill go run this build and see how it goes

[patent wing]

what melee are u using with

[near bobcat]

maccabian 4 with uncanny and rampage

also has flak and carapace

[patent wing]

well thats all personal taste but I use mostly mk6 knife or deimos or illisi

[near bobcat]

i'v ewanted to try a force sword for a bit

I did get this sword recently but i know it has problems

[untold niche]

idk they seem to like to fight off the enemy at the back
they were still there when i reached green area at the top

[patent wing]

uncanny / riposte deimos is a good compromise between horde clear and armor dmg

[near bobcat]

ill see if i can't get one like that

[cinder moon]

bots love to get locked into melee

[patent wing]

if you want armor dmg and boss dmg bleed uncanny knife is the best tho#

uncanny most important on deimos the other perk can also be slaugtherer or shred or even the ranged block

[near bobcat]

im sadly not fond of knives, i need to get a proper b uild going before i attempt a new weapon type

it's why im doing surge, i got VERY lucky with my surge rolls

[cinder moon]

deflector is S tier when your sword is the backup weapon

[near bobcat]

yeah that's what i found interesting

[patent wing]

i can recommend using full auto melee mod

[near bobcat]

oh boy, archivum for my firts test

[patent wing]

heavy light is best with mk6 for horde clear but hell, who am i if i can attack speed like a maniac with light spam

but the reason why mk6 is so good on psyker is the push attack which deals heavy attack dmg but twice as fast (and psyker stam regen speed)

[untold niche]

is there a rant channel

[wind spruce]

That's what a take is

[patent wing]

just tell us here

[untold niche]

i see

[upper sun]

just post it anywhere where its most relevant

[untold niche]

the original idiot was for the ogryn purposefully shooting the DH with a rumbler (no other zombie nearby) and dying to it
The salt for obj was when we were at the data area and no one protected me nor did any of the the other data
Third one was for what you see here.

look at their levels btw

[upper sun]

oh yeah ive seen the random hp pack at every threat level

[untold niche]

same two who got stuck here for unknown reasons

[upper sun]

that mission is the real test of teamwork

[untold niche]

we cleared it in 21 minutes

[upper sun]

nice

[untold niche]

this is the scoreboard

[patent wing]

💀

he just wanted to make it more, advanced. uk

[untold niche]

dude there wasn't alot of zombies either

he just dropped it to heal...

[patent wing]

would be to easy if he´'d kept it

[untold niche]

one of the deaths were because i spawned in half hp and in a room full of zombies

idk i really like this build, really fun

[patent wing]

i mean i remember the times when i had like 20 hours and went into auric maels, i dropped medis in the elevators before a healing station xx

[untold niche]

you went into auric maels before 20 hours?

were you like +3 or somehting?

[patent wing]

as soon as i was lvl30

always hardest diff even while leveling

[untold niche]

dude i would HATE you

[patent wing]

and i came into darktide because of a video, i didnt even know it was coop shooter xd

[untold niche]

waaaa

[patent wing]

what can i say, there was a chainsword in action...

[upper sun]

i went directly from malice to auric heresy

it wasnt that bad

[patent wing]

and now here i am, first char is a psyker and now lvl 300 or sth like that idk

[untold niche]

i never touched non damnation aurics

i assumed he meant a5mael

is there even a4mael?

[patent wing]

nop

[upper sun]

i dont think so

[halcyon gust]

Don't believe so

I only seen Damnation on Auric Maelstorm

[untold niche]

zealot drip

[patent wing]

most auric maels are to easy btw, i need scab melee modifier to feel sth now

[untold niche]

ngl sometime a5histg feel harder than a5mael

dependent on director mood

i feel scab only gets boring after a while

keep on clinking the mauler head

[patent wing]

nice i only have the penance cosmetics, last week i had to grind 1500 stun grenade stuns for the eye patch

and i hate that grenade

[upper sun]

same

i dont wanna say i how i did it

you know when you drop into a mission you have 3 grenades?

you can keep leaving and joining new missions

not my fault

if something is cheesable i will cheezit

[patent wing]

hate the game, not the player right

[untold niche]

btw what eyepatch

waht class is it for

can i see

[untold niche]

zealot?

that looks cool

[upper sun]

ye i like it

[untold niche]

where you get that outfit?

[upper sun]

cheapest stuff i could find from the dockets store

[rigid sky]

I use stuns on a heavy sword build tbh

[untold niche]

DOCKET STORE?

rich man.

[upper sun]

pants from one set and top from another

they were 60k

[untold niche]

60k????

Oh my

[upper sun]

yes

zealot and vet have ok stuff for dockets

psyker has weird ass shit and ogryn has tshirts

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-looking-wrestling-wwe-vince-mc-mahon-gif-15026518

[patent wing]

they should hire the league designers tbh

[untold niche]

spending 60k docket on cosmetic

wat an insane man

[upper sun]

pants from anointed missionary and top from lowly scribe

[patent wing]

300k dockets on cosmetics is normal i think

[upper sun]

idk i like simple stuff on zealot

[patent wing]

thers a psyker fit for 1,5million and its the same as the highest penace armor just with green details instead of red :(

actually looking worse

[upper sun]

this one looks fine

BUT

MESHING

Im too hungry to type

[untold niche]

also only after using loner, then i realized caxe's heavy CLEAVES

and and and

[patent wing]

mk4?

[untold niche]

i hit a bon for liek 60% of its HP

[untold niche]

caxe not chaxe

[patent wing]

ah the rashad?

[untold niche]

ye

i love my build so much dude

[cinder moon]

i use those docket pieces for my enforcer gunker fit

[near bobcat]

that was the cleanest bloody run of archivum i've ever been on

[untold niche]

yo dat look pretty cool ngl

[near bobcat]

but i think it's because i actually had competent teammates and good positioning here

[patent wing]

purgatus without dome is so shitty

open fields with snipers are death

[halcyon gust]

Open fields with shooters is generally a painful experience sibling

That's why you should poke that brain dead Vet to shoot them or something or offer the Zealot cocaine to deal with them

[mighty olive]

I don't has an issue, I run purg with shriek and bb, auric damnation

Gotta bob and weave while bbing the snipers and gunners, purg shriek the rest

Left click spam to stagger if ya needs to make space

[rigid sky]

Brain rupture the snipers, dodge a lot. But it is a weakness.

But if you drop Venting Shriek you lose out on the crazy warp Siphon synergy

[patent wing]

i wish i could aim for them through the crowd with bb

[rigid sky]

It's a tradeoff

[rigid sky]

Tall psyker is best psyker

[patent wing]

they have the high ground

[upper sun]

this kills the psyker

[rigid sky]

Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture intensifies

[upper sun]

that was with golden toughness +150 btw

man i swear FS has a secret fuck you psyker passive that makes them take extra damage

[mighty olive]

i usually jump and target to bb ROFL my friend laughs but it works, i do it to snipe on zealot sometimes too xD

looooove this outfit with that mask, it sounds so spoopy! also finally got my 1mil kills frame, i want to get the investigation frame but heckin havin to do hab dreyko only for it stinks T_T

hope we get some more investigation missions soon, the frame looks pretty sick for it

[upper sun]

wont catch me in the hab' no way no how

[mighty olive]

i knoooow i hate hab dreyko ROFL but i want the fame T_T

[upper sun]

i want either assassination frame or rescue

[mighty olive]

both of those look awesome, assassination super quick to get imo

[rich spindle]

i made a perfect dueling sword but it has uncanny 3

my ocd

[wind spruce]

Snipers are actually very avoidable once you learn how to dodge slide

[upper sun]

just jump around like an idiot

works for me

[wind spruce]

Exactly

[rich spindle]

the key to snipers for me is that they have to hold their beam on you for a second before they fire

so you can let the beam rest on you and then dodge, rather than spamming dodge and running out of dodges

you can also just hold W while sprinting and move your mouse around to run in an S pattern

[wind spruce]

This guy gets it

When you're approaching them you can also just slide under the shot

[patent wing]

i have 500 hours ik but when using a staff u have like 3 dodges and 1 single dodge slide costs u 2

[wind spruce]

You'll avoid the snipe even on the third dodge slide that leaves u at -3/3

They'll also take longer to reload than it takes to recover your dodges

[upper sun]

did they change the melk reset time?

[vestal fulcrum]

There's been a summer time change, so everything is one hour forward now

[upper sun]

hate that shit so much

[hardy tulip]

Its nice but 500 special condition mission look better in my opinion.

[jovial juniper]

Me when I mistime the dodge, the shot is going to fail the mission

[mighty olive]

ohh is it less glowie than the 500 sc one? i love the sc one xD hope we get more frames honestly, shiny ones!

also wonder if we'll ever get shiny red weapons

[hardy tulip]

Yeah that one.

Maybe some day we got red weapons, but first we will see how crafting gona change.

[hasty valve]

What's the best melee for cc and ocasional single target dmg? Maccabian?

[radiant frigate]

i wanna say deimos maybe? depends on what exactly you're thinking of

is the primary role cc/horde clear and occasionally hitting single targets? or is it "push the horde real quick and kill this thing in particular"?

if it's the former, illisi

if it's the latter, deimos and dueling sword mk IV

[rich spindle]

Illisi or devils claw to keep hordes off you

Or chainsword i guess

[radiant frigate]

devil's claw 💀

[rich spindle]

Devils claw 😍

[radiant frigate]

begone fiend

[crude vortex]

Devil's Claw 😳

[lyric burrow]

devils claw is pog

in terms of CC and single target probably chainsword for psyker, Caxe is also good

Deimos is an option as well

[viscid matrix]

D.IV is best single target while having high mobility

[unreal basalt]

What's the good blessings for surge staff?

Need opinion pls

[rich spindle]

Only 2 good ones

[tiny oracle]

warp flurry and warp nexus

what perks do people usually run?

i got a surge staff with 2/2 blessings

[rich spindle]

Flak since it hits everything in the chest

[tiny oracle]

flakmaniac?

can reroll both

[rich spindle]

I like unyielding better than maniac

[lyric burrow]

i do flak unyield but flak maniac is fine

depends what you value

[tiny oracle]

better than the crit chance?

[lyric burrow]

yeah id use it over crit chance

surge crits p often esp with psyker talents

[tiny oracle]

cost me 650k dockets but i'd say worth it

[lyric burrow]

checks out

[rich spindle]

Doesnt psyker skill tree only give +5% crit chance

[tiny oracle]

good thing i got both t4 blessings because the perks are absolute garbage

[lyric burrow]

well depends on what you are running, i tend to run the right side of the tree so scriers + true aim does get me crits fairly often + psykers high base crit chance etc

[rich spindle]

Scriers with surge is crazy

[tiny oracle]

doesnt scriers and staff screw eachother over?

[lyric burrow]

even if you werent running right side id probably still just do 25% damage over crit but it would be more reasonable

[lyric burrow]

i generally use it while in melee the effect just lingers

[jovial juniper]

It depends on the staff, purgatus is the worst

[lyric burrow]

true aim on its own gets you a lot of crits anyway

[viscid matrix]

You get 10% crit from tree, if you take the aura

[lyric burrow]

and psyker has 7.5% base

not sure what surges base is off the top of my head

[rich spindle]

Like 20

Not taking the team cooldown is impossible sadly

[lyric burrow]

and nexus is a ton too

so yeah crit chance prob not worth

[tiny oracle]

right now i dont have the +5 crit node or aura, at critical peril im at 51% crit chance

[fresh reef]

I have discovered the raw statisfaction of empowered brain burst

[jovial juniper]

Kinetic resonance + EP + celerity

[cosmic sigil]

Bolter psyker

[unreal basalt]

No way purgatus is my fav

[crude vortex]

is it pur-GUH-tis, pur-GAY-tis, or pur-GAH-tis

[jovial juniper]

Yeah, purg and Gaze are not made for each other

[tired estuary]

yes

[jovial juniper]

You could try but don't go feeling disappointed

[fresh reef]

depends on if you wanna say it like it's a latin word or not

[wind spruce]

But the convo was about crits with Surge staff which can't hit headshots...

[lyric burrow]

i use the LMB a decent amount

[wind spruce]

Interesting take considering the concensus used to be purg is the only staff worth taking scriers with

[lyric burrow]

ive only ever used it with surge but its mostly for dclaw

that i take with the surge

i could see it being decent with them although slightly awkward

[near bobcat]

so i'll bite, i want a force sword that's defensive against gunners and good at dealing with mutants, what's a reccommendation?

i know force swords have a special blessing that deflects bullets

[lyric burrow]

deimos would be the best at dealing with mutants

illisi can do it too but not quite as well

both can get deflector

[ornate hamlet]

The best thing against gunners is to kill them with another weapon instead of slowly walking towards them with melee

[lyric burrow]

i would recommend this as well

assail in particular is very good at it

[ornate hamlet]

Or if you want to melee, dodge/sprint slides

Then you have a free blessing slot for more damage

[lyric burrow]

deflector is fine if you REALLY want it but yeah its better to learn how to deal with them without it

[jovial juniper]

It just builds peril too fast even if you're killing

[lyric burrow]

i could see the lingering crit chance being nice

[jovial juniper]

Coordinate with your mate to draw the gunners attention with Deflector

[near bobcat]

it's less about gunners and more about just the shooters. I've been running surge staff and have a build for it, and right now my melee is mostly for dealing with stray specials i can quickly jab at.

so if i get into a bad situation and smite/my surge can't get rid of the group of gunners then a sword that can deflect their bullets would help alot with survival.

when im running assail gunners aren't a problem at all

hell most shit isn't, just chuck half my rocks at a group of ragers and watch them all tumble

i'll see about looking into a deimos then

[rich spindle]

Is damage resist bombers worth it after how they changed flame damage?

Given that I always take a little bomber damage every game

[ornate hamlet]

I dodge or sprint slide at them and kill them, or use my ranged weapon, and if the ranged weapon doesn't have enough range then I'll have brought a blitz that does

[fresh reef]

my wrist hurts

[thorn birch]

good trauma roll, yes?

[rich spindle]

Yeah good enough

I think the blast radius diff between 68 and 80 is small

Same with damage

[untold niche]

yoshi that quite insane
one lmb is about 5% peril iirc
to shoot 5 its 25% already

[lyric burrow]

I just like the lmb a lot but ye its not proccing constantly, mostly just on the way to DD

[untold niche]

at that rate why not just run void :v

[lyric burrow]

I dont like void lol

Too strong

Otherwise i would ye

[untold niche]

wait so sorry, surge lmb shoot balls right

[lyric burrow]

Yeah same as everything else minus purge

[untold niche]

i see

[fresh reef]

I feel like empowered BB isn't nearly as prevalent as it should be

[lyric burrow]

The projectile thing

[fresh reef]

Like it absolutely fucks on packs of elites

[untold niche]

lie to yourself it takes skill then you enjoy the power
But seeing as you are an old timer i think you can't lie to yourself anymore

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i already lie to myself enough using deimos assail

[untold niche]

deimos assail stronk?

[lyric burrow]

Although with surge i run dclaw hence DD

Yeah assail is p broken alone as is deimos

Deimos/assail + a gun is like 600k damage a game on accident

[untold niche]

i tot deimos only good for pokey pokey mutie

[fresh reef]

Is Mk5 DS/Purgatus/BB/Wall/EP an ethical (ie, balanced) build?

[lyric burrow]

Ye

[untold niche]

why not run illisi :v

[lyric burrow]

I like ds2 as well

[untold niche]

or just personal preference

[lyric burrow]

Dont really need illisi and deimos is good boss/cara damage

For cspawn/saving ammo

[potent echo]

Pokey everything

[untold niche]

assail broken? after boosted by dd ?
ALso after dd boost assail can one tap gunner?

[potent echo]

Pokey crusher it fly to the right

[untold niche]

why ds2 instead of meta ds4

[potent echo]

One tap shooters*

[lyric burrow]

I also dont like how strong ds4 is

[fresh reef]

Meta is lame

[lyric burrow]

So i use ds2

Deimos is my cheat

[untold niche]

damn the only things i don't like are pee gun and pee sword
and maybe the chainswords / evisc

[fresh reef]

If I wanted to win every game I'd rapidly lose interest

[potent echo]

But don't you use void 🤔

[lyric burrow]

I just got tired of the meta stuff

[untold niche]

i would ask if its an ego thing or you are so good that using meta is boring but thats rude

[potent echo]

I don't think losing games would make me want to stick around honestly

[untold niche]

for me not using pee sword and pee gun is disgust + ego thing for sure

[potent echo]

Once in awhile peegun and peesword with peeshout

[lyric burrow]

I dont mean to sound braggy but yeah playinf meta means i very rarely lose and its harder to improve

[fresh reef]

Yeah but like, if I pick Trauma even the losses are boring

[lyric burrow]

Downgrading to like ds2/a mid gun honestly doesnt change a ton tho

But its more engaging for me

[fresh reef]

There is almost no reason to ever switch off of your staff if you have trauma

[potent echo]

Trauma is just boring

Void can be meta but the fact that you need to aim is already fun

It's not really meta or not it's more like how fun it is to use kinda

[fresh reef]

Same problem for me, if I pick void I never need to switch weapons

[untold niche]

i mean, the only part that needs to improve is clutching isn't it
and maybe positioning but i feel that comes with time

Else as a long time player litrally nothing else to improve

you already know kill prior and dodge on funny sound

[fresh reef]

Compared to what I run now, Purgatus, Ds5, and BB all have their individual strengths and weaknesses

[lyric burrow]

Yeah clutching really, although that means i need to be put into a solo clutch situation

I had a nice solo clutch the other day which was nice

I kept dropping them for a while

[potent echo]

I played like shovel lasgun vet and you can't really clutch for shit lmao

[lyric burrow]

At the like 5 minute ones

Ones where they spawn close are w/e

[potent echo]

You can slowly wither away the enemy but you need to be chocB level to survive for the 5mins it takes to stabilize lol

[untold niche]

yeah thats why i can't be bothered to learn how to clutch because im almost never there, can't practice anyway

But i feel clutching is more about being calm and making correct decisions, i doubt that a ds4 will help you much in the way of solo clutching compared to using a ds2

[lyric burrow]

Well itll kill the crushers/boss significantly fasted if thats what im using which can make a difference

[untold niche]

SHOULD I START THIS

[lyric burrow]

If i need the crusher dead asap or w/e

[potent echo]

Why not it's easy if you pick a strong build

And have a strong PC

The hardest part

[untold niche]

its more like last portion of hab dreyko

[lyric burrow]

Yeah it can be hard to practice, ive just played for 1.3k hours so its come up

Although most of my clutch practice is still in smaller scale ones

[potent echo]

Usually if there is 1 guy down, the other two will usually panic rush in to revive and then die, so that's how I practice solo clutching

[untold niche]

wouldnt decision making be much more important in solo clutch?
when you have like 6 of everything on you it feels like killing crusher in one less hit doesn't seem to be as cool anymore

[lyric burrow]

Yes decision making is very important esp positionally

[potent echo]

You just need to learn to fall back and play to your weapon strength

[fresh reef]

Purgatus is easy to clutch with, imo

[lyric burrow]

Yeah you cant rush when the spawns kick in

[fresh reef]

Given how easy you can kite bosses with it

[lyric burrow]

After the grace period

[potent echo]

Purgatus is super easy to use lol just lmb spam

[untold niche]

+2 vet on my a5histg
dodged

[potent echo]

If you dodge then you lose the chance to solo clutch

Must play with shitters unironically

[untold niche]

how does clutching work, do you just need to survive until director lets up, or director will instantly let up and you have a certain amouint of time to revive teammate before shit goes down @lyric burrow

[lyric burrow]

Assuming the clutch goes past the grace period you get for being alone, then yeah you need to survive/kill until there is another break

[potent echo]

Watch chocoB vids, you just slowly kite back 1-2 rooms while killing, director will slow down spawns for solo player

[lyric burrow]

And then push

[untold niche]

no im not going to make him think he can survive in a5histg

[lyric burrow]

Youll likely need to deal with the patrol on the respawn

[potent echo]

Ofc you must handle like 20 specials alone by the time you reach your team again

[untold niche]

how do you know if its a grace period? like literally nothing will spawn?
i think that happened to me once

Also if your team dies while 6 crusher 6 rager 6 mauler 1 sniper 2 bombers and huge horde is there what do you even do xd

[potent echo]

Slowly kite back and kill, that's it

[untold niche]

throw in a trapper and a flamer

[lyric burrow]

Itll be dead calm for a bit after you clear out whatever was left

[potent echo]

Patience is key

[untold niche]

but i wouldn't look as cool

[potent echo]

That's how mafia works

[lyric burrow]

Once you start hearing stuff spawn though youll likely need to survive for a bit

[potent echo]

I think the patience playstyle is real cool, esp if you learn to do railing vaults to chokepoint hordes etc

[lyric burrow]

Sometimes the respawn is close enough you can just make it before anything spawns

[potent echo]

This is like old school vt2 tech

You fight with your back to a railing then vault when things get nasty, suddenly so much space wow

Then you repeat

[lyric burrow]

You just kite, kill the prio targets where you can but always keep kiting

[untold niche]

look at the rich boi

[untold niche]

i think problem with me is i like to kill everything

can't be the anime sword hero slashing everything while whole team is dead

[lyric burrow]

You do want to but you cant stay in one spot you'll just trap yourself

[untold niche]

as in, move forward to kill stuffs

[lyric burrow]

Id be careful moving forward

Can aggro more stuff that way

[untold niche]

+4 zealot on my a5histg hab dreykop

zzz

no dodg

[plucky flax]

I let my teammates die so I can clutch and they praise me.

[potent echo]

Damn so cool

[plucky flax]

Tbag them as they die of course. And tbag while rescuing them.

[potent echo]

Same actually, I'm just toxic

[untold niche]

damn you guys 200 iq

[plucky flax]

Knife zealot or stealth loner zealot best clutch builds by far.

[untold niche]

yeah stealth loner insane

i stealth revived last 3 times last game

idk why people here hate it so much

dude also i realzied caxe's heavy can cleave

in stealth its like a swing of insta death xD

[lyric burrow]

Which caxe

[untold niche]

rashad

im a scrub

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i think it still has a little cleave

[untold niche]

zealot channel always say stealth loner don't use

but now that i try it

i think best zealot build i used so far

[lyric burrow]

Id say its def weaker than chastise but still good

[untold niche]

i get that cahtise hasi nstant 50% toughness and 10% attack speed for a good amouint of time
but with stealth i can run the 20% ability refund

and i can one shot reapers and crushers

[lyric burrow]

Ik some people like josho mostly just hate the gameplay of it

[untold niche]

crusher needs to be from behind but with stealth its not a problem

[lyric burrow]

Rather than the viability

[untold niche]

i don't find it much different from chastise

instead of rush to enemy and swing its rush to enemy and mvoe to the back if its a crusher

[lyric burrow]

I dont wanna put words in his mouth but im p sure he just dislikes the turning off the ai aspect

Esp for revives

[untold niche]

i see

like he feel like its too strong?

i think alot of peopple in zealot chat also just make fun of stealth zealots, or say its very binary, either you suck or you are godlike

[lyric burrow]

Uninteresting at least

It does attract a certain type of player

[untold niche]

idk i feel some scenarios its like guy is fated to die

[plucky flax]

Meh people who cry about other people's playstyle

Just play better and not rely on teammates.

[lyric burrow]

But play w/e you want idc

[untold niche]

why tho
i find it like its similar to chastise

no wait wrongreply

[lyric burrow]

I also prefer chastise but i don't hate stealth

[plucky flax]

I don't even care if there's a guy shooting only taking all ammo.

[untold niche]

^ why tho

[lyric burrow]

Its good for speedruning

Cause you can ignore so much

[untold niche]

but if you speed run its still on 30 second cooldown

[lyric burrow]

And revives are easy for when people fall behind and die

Eh with cdr you can fight for like 15-20 secs and do it again with knife

Esp with how much ground you cover

[untold niche]

wait do you need to visit melk each time store rotates to activate contract wtf

i thought its only one time per chartacter

[untold niche]

i see.
i don't get those people tho

[lyric burrow]

You need to check when they reset

They are more rare now

In my exp

[untold niche]

i feel if u wanna do that mght as well play solo

[lyric burrow]

Yeah its essentially solo play

I dont get the appeal but people like it

Like flying through a mission with a good team in under 20 mins is fun but im actually fighting more

And i play for combat

[untold niche]

on the other end some people really like to stay and fight
i didn't stealth this part btw

i even typed run and pinged

[lyric burrow]

Yeah people also dont like moving lol

[potent echo]

+654 lol they just playing for fun now

[lyric burrow]

Tbh assumimg they play other classes you play for fun before then

Im level 460 or something on psyker and i just play for the gameplay now

I actually had a level 2000 something zealot earlier

[untold niche]

how come gone?

[lyric burrow]

What

[potent echo]

I think he meant he played with a 2000 zealot

[lyric burrow]

Oh yeah

He was in the lobby

My zealot is like level 240 or something

[untold niche]

oh i thought somehow the + levels data got wiped

[untold niche]

thjanks haha

[lyric burrow]

No

[untold niche]

normally level 2000s i see are ogryns

idk why

hahaha

[lyric burrow]

It did get moved back when they changed the exp to reach level 30

For me its always knife zealots

[potent echo]

Knife zealots just die and leave, and get replaced, so to me it's whatever

[lyric burrow]

He was decent at least

I only care if they speed run

And he didn't do like 2k damage all match so

[potent echo]

Most maps don't even allow you to speedrun

I was in a hacked Chinese lobby yesterday, no enemies around at all just move through the map getting plasteel

Then I got kicked lol

[lyric burrow]

Wack

[potent echo]

First time in 1000 hours lol

[lyric burrow]

Yeah cant say ive come across that

And i am also over 1k hours in

[untold niche]

how do you realiably headshot mutie from behind? i used to be able to do it i think

[potent echo]

Gaming

I might be crazy but didn't some patch note mention something about hitboxes

[plucky flax]

If your weapon has cleave you can hit through it.

So caxe while bm is activated for example.

Or illisi special heavy.

[untold niche]

as in while soloing the mutie

could reliably headshot from behind

in the solo case bm wouldn't matter right

[plucky flax]

If your axe has + maniac you can 2 hits mutie like me.

Unarmoured bad.

[still hearth]

Either you love Ogryn to death or you don't like them at all.

[untold niche]

i do but still need headshots

[potent echo]

Idk I'm level 400 psyker and 300 ogryn

[still hearth]

Unicorn

[potent echo]

They are like opposite playstyles so it's quite entertaining for me

[still hearth]

I play all the small ones

Not so much Ogryn

I can't find something on Ogryn I enjoy

[potent echo]

My zealot is like 150, and 250 vet

Zealot is just like shitty ogryn

[plucky flax]

[still hearth]

Fight me

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[untold niche]

grenade gauntlet used to be good when they didn't spawn like 6-12 blobs

now all i see is rumbler

shield is fun tho

yoo i found mael with specialist and mini bos

its fking empty

[still hearth]

The thing about Ogryn is that they have a lot of amazing options but

I just don't like the playstyle

[radiant frigate]

the thing with ogryn is that there isn't a single thing about it that i like

[potent echo]

Some people hate rumbler

I think it's still mainly fine, can work like a trauma in a pinch

[radiant frigate]

there is not a single melee weapon in the ogryn arsenal that i like

[potent echo]

Shovel or basher for me

Shield if I want to play without having to play

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn can play like anything though. Shoot-shoot, Unga-Bunga, Protect-little-ones, Sprint-through-whole-map-because-you-are-functionally-immortal-with-feel-no-pain-and-200-toughness.

[rigid sky]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/ppHWsoGSmt fucking heretical shit right here

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze Trauma is awful please buff

[rigid sky]

Tbf people are more shitting on loner aura itself

[lethal lagoon]

Skeeters is based and real, trauma need buff

Everyone go and upvote skeeters so fatshark can see the truth

[untold niche]

most balanced scoreboard i seen
they were egoing to hp station too.

[plucky flax]

I can confirm blaze trauma super bad.

Pls buff.

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/barbiesszn-monkey-gif-23488411

[plucky flax]

Totally unable to duo (meme ) a maelstrom using blaze trauma.

[lethal lagoon]

Definitely can't basically solo a t5 auric mael with blaze trauma, that'd be silly.

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-hitting-someone-sword-13world-reaction-gif-23469319

[potent echo]

If you come from peesword and peegun vet I guess trauma is "not dps"

[tiny oracle]

how important is quell speed on a voidstrike staff? got one at 80dmg, 80 radius, 77 charge 77 resist, but quell is very low at 41%

is this worth keeping?

[plucky flax]

Seems really low. 😒

I like high quell speed on all staves.

[tiny oracle]

for context that is -8% quell speed

[rigid sky]

You would rather it was higher but just take Venting Shriek with it for now

Also, dumpstats are radius and warp resistance

[tiny oracle]

i have very good rolls on both surge and purg, so its not really something i have to use

i would just be saving it in case i want to vary my playstyle a bit later

[tiny oracle]

so in other words, not worth using and i should sacrifice it for blazing spirit instead?

[rigid sky]

Blazing spirit is bad on void anyway

[radiant frigate]

is that seriously the outer range of trauma

[lethal lagoon]

No, that's an edited image of what I want the range to be.

So fatshark please buff

[radiant frigate]

agony

if that was the range i would just quit

[potent echo]

I have bad news

[radiant frigate]

what's the news

[potent echo]

Or actually good news

You may quit darktide

[lethal lagoon]

I mean very real complaint agaisnt trauma

[plucky flax]

No it's totally not.

If anything they need to make it bigger.

[radiant frigate]

no i was just saying that it looks like another coruscation situation

which killed a lot of my enjoyment of vt2

[plucky flax]

Me I was teamkilling with bolt staff.

[rigid sky]

It's just the Blazing part really

Which is not completely reliable and won't kill in one at least

[potent echo]

Coruscation got nerfed to a little smol circle

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, you can see the inner circle from the blood splatter

So small plz buff

[potent echo]

It's fun for me though, because anything is better than BW ayylmao

[radiant frigate]

coruscation is still coruscation

it still does the same thing

and i suppose at least the blazing part does not overstack and murder everything

i guess it takes 2 crit casts to kill the other circle

which is not entirely reliable

and i don't see blaze trauma in every game so there is that at least

[potent echo]

It also doesn't stagger like trauma, still needs you to keep them there to get max value

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze Truama is~~ the~~ shit, so that makes sense

[untold niche]

as long as you can quell to 80% in two ticks from 100% peril its fine

[patent wing]

imagine edgin peril

kinda gay

[potent echo]

I might change back to flurry surge void 🤔

[patent wing]

flurry surge GOAT

[potent echo]

I realised I mainly just melee then use the guaranteed crit surge, so nexus isn't doing too much

[patent wing]

can just spam a few left clicks on the crusher or shot through a horde

too

[potent echo]

And when fighting 6 crushers I just take out melee lol

[patent wing]

the reward is way better than weakspot quell

[potent echo]

Throwing balls at close range makes me cringe

[patent wing]

u better do if those bulwarks come

[potent echo]

Open with void and Deimos activate

[patent wing]

tbh its very risky to 1v6 crushers, if u are unlucky they chain overhead with 0.5sec delay

[rigid sky]

I'd rather throw some 1-shot Crusher killer orbs than lock myself in place with a deimos activation lmao

[patent wing]

if u dont have 2 dodges for backward gg

[potent echo]

Deimos H2 lol, lmao even

[rigid sky]

You said deimos activate

[potent echo]

That's bulwarks

[patent wing]

6 overheads aimed at you with half a second delay, ur 100% dead

tho push attack has no cleave limit right

[potent echo]

You get 4 uncanny and also 4/5 for the crit

[potent echo]

Push or push attack

Push attack only 1 target I think

[patent wing]

the one that knocks em down after the second

[potent echo]

Nah if the push attack hit everything in range it's a little too much

[patent wing]

but i want to knock down 6 crushers

[potent echo]

You can use it to control crushers

Just use it 6 times

[patent wing]

u mean 12 :D

[potent echo]

True but if there are 6 you can't land consecutive push attacks on the same crusher

So just H2 or lock in

Push attack into H2 also pretty cool

[rigid sky]

I'd still rather just easy nuke them with Void if I have it tbh

If I go Void, my melee is Illisi anyway

Since Crushers and maulers are the least of my concerns

Love Deimos, just not paired with Void.

[patent wing]

currently i pair void with EP assail

its more of an assail build

[potent echo]

I'm insane so I pair Deimos with everything

[patent wing]

because nothings better at killing 3-4 special squads at once

[potent echo]

Void 'struggles' with spaced out elites

It's just like brainburst at that point lol

[patent wing]

thats the reason yes

but i thought about adding brainburst for boss dmg, currently i only have the bleed knife which leaves me kinda open to bon

[potent echo]

Backstab the bon

If bon is on me I just kite it, I don't even bother shooting it lmao

[patent wing]

im the only one alive in this scenario

[potent echo]

Ah the njust run

[patent wing]

best thing i learned about it that it can jump

IT CAN JUMP

[potent echo]

Nasty

Doesn't it just go around to take the teleport door

So you can kite it forever kind of

[patent wing]

yeah im talking about the maps where u can take ladders to higher platforms

[potent echo]

I've actually never seen it jump

[patent wing]

thers one where only ladders bring u up

[radiant frigate]

have you taken the illisi pill?

[patent wing]

whats the map called with that bridge and train station

where u break through the hole in the wall

[upper sun]

uhhhhhhh

who the hell knows map names

[patent wing]

i think chasm

[patent wing]

what blessings do u use

[potent echo]

Ewlisi

Miss me with that

[potent echo]

Sewers?

[rigid sky]

Chasm Logistratum?

Or possibly Chasm Terminus but I doubt it

[radiant frigate]

slaughterer uncanny strike

[cinder moon]

chasm terminus has a train station (that's what terminus refers to)

[patent wing]

any1 tried gunker without scriers, and only with dd?

[rigid sky]

I think Shriek gunker is also quite popular but I haven't tried it

[patent wing]

yeah thers a smol platform where only ladders bring you up, and BOn followed me up there

[cinder moon]

i got munched by a fleshbag once while i was on a ladder, was pretty annoyed by that tbh

last one alive and when i got off the ladder it stopped corrupting me

[patent wing]

rip

5% tdr or 15 tougn?

i have a free point

[cosmic sigil]

Toughness

[rigid sky]

On Psyker toughness

[plucky flax]

I take raw toughness over tdr on all classes personally. Yes even on ogryn.

[rigid sky]

On ogryn I take both lol

The +25 nodes in particular

[patent wing]

DD Ilisi special deals absurd dmg to crushers

[rigid sky]

DD is absolutely busted for melee tbh

I like oneshotting Mutants with unpowered Illisi heavies

[patent wing]

how can i get DD work in meat grinder?

creature spawner doenst help

[rigid sky]

They need AI

[patent wing]

i tried to replicate it but i think it just was 15 DD stacks and no uncanny stacks and i took half hp of the crusher with one special headshot

[plucky flax]

11 more power matrix and I 100% the game.

[rigid sky]

DD works so well with both illisi and DS4

[patent wing]

have to try knife with dd

i like the knife, besides the ds4 its the only weapon u can fight a boss 1v1 with

[lyric burrow]

Its decent although just worse than DS4 or even deimos except mobility

[rigid sky]

I can see it being really good

Knife 6 right?

[plucky flax]

1hp damage taken RIP me life.

[lyric burrow]

I prefer 3

[rigid sky]

Never actually tried it but every psyker I see using it is a friggin god

[lyric burrow]

6 works tho

[rigid sky]

I like 3 on my zealot but I am dogshit with it

[lyric burrow]

Its a weird weapon

[plucky flax]

3 and 6 both gud. I prefer 6 on psyker because push attack spam.

Zealot gud with both variants.

[lyric burrow]

But like assail + knife and probably an iag or something is decent

[plucky flax]

On that power matrix grindset.

[lyric burrow]

Doesnt have to be iag but iag just gives you a bit more staying power/pressure relief

[plucky flax]

Last penance left.

[lyric burrow]

Which is nice with knife

Im finally getting there on mission penances

[rigid sky]

Yeah that's the combo I usually see

Or the weirdos running revolvers

[lyric burrow]

Revo works just gotta be careful to not get overwhelmed by density

Assail deals with that well you can just run out

[rigid sky]

I usually see those psykers take Shriek

But idk I don't really wanna run gunker without SG

[lyric burrow]

Ah yeah i usually do scriers DD

[rigid sky]

Same

It just feels right

It's like cosplaying an E stance vet

[lyric burrow]

Tbf i run that with essentially everything but fs knife

[rigid sky]

But in a really good way

[lyric burrow]

Id say give knife a try just be warned there will be a learning curve that will likely still feel worse than ds4/deimos etc

At the end of the day

But it is very fun

[plucky flax]

Columbus is so strong you don't need gazer with it. I use creeping flames with guns for additional horde clear.

And always assail.

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i prefer graia/agri

Columnus is a bit silly lol

Very fun tho

Fire rate go brr

[rigid sky]

But why be strong, when you could be STRONK

[lyric burrow]

Mostly just find running the non meta loadouts a bit more interesting nowadays

Ill still use broken stuff like assail/deimos

[stark nova]

What’s a ds4

[lyric burrow]

But some stuff i just prefer other options

Although i still feel bad running deimos assail lol sadly assail is just 100x more fun than the other 2 blitzes for mw

Duelling sword 4

[untold niche]

genuine question
is a5histg or a5mael (everything except for scab only) harder?
is there a definitive answer
feels 50/50
sometimes one is harder

[stark nova]

And the MG la Lasgun? Is that the Accatran Mk VIIa Recon Lasgun?

[lyric burrow]

No its an infantry las gun

[stark nova]

Ok

[lyric burrow]

Can be hit or miss

[plucky flax]

Some maelstrom modifier are super easy, like hunting ground. That's basically just a regular hishock. Hard maelstrom are scab only, green monsters, muties+dogs together (green).

[lyric burrow]

Melee only is potentially technically harder but you can also abuse stuff like blazing trauma + PC

Ds4

Id say overall histg is more consistently difficult

But not by a lot

[plucky flax]

Just did a 23 mins hishock taking 1 hp damage. Was easy but I guess decent team.

[lyric burrow]

Yeah good enough team can blow through either

[plucky flax]

Got a lvl 1.3k zealot.

[lyric burrow]

Zealots always have the crazy levels for me

[untold niche]

if wave of specialist + mini monster, a5histg still ahrder?

[rigid sky]

Mini monsters is just potentially brutal in general

A lot comes down to the director though

Sometimes mini monsters is like 2 extra bosses over the whole map

[lyric burrow]

Its one of the harder maelstroms for sure, and its less gimmicky than most

[plucky flax]

Yeah smol monsters are so easy to kill

Only when it's green it's scary

[lyric burrow]

But only if they actually spawn

[rigid sky]

Sometimes it's a constant monstrosity gang****

[lyric burrow]

1 every 5 minutes you dont notice

[untold niche]

no wonder i prefer a5histg

[rigid sky]

The word I wanted to use got censored

[untold niche]

feels more exciting

[lyric burrow]

3 at a time you will

Yeah histg is fs my fav

[rigid sky]

Tbf maelstrom is Hi5STG as a base anyway

Right?

[plucky flax]

Ye

Maelstrom is minimum hishock.

[rigid sky]

But some gimmicks you can turn into buffs for you

Like dog spam or mutant spam can be great with surv aura or psych aura

[lyric burrow]

My main issue with maelstrom is it just feels gimmicky most of the time

[rigid sky]

Also some builds deal with minimonsters better than others

[lyric burrow]

Like 30 poxbursters isnt a real difficulty increase its just like annoying

Esp since everything tends to spawn at once

And interactions get pretty dumb

But yeah stuff like dogs can just be infinite ammo essentially

[rigid sky]

Poxbursters is either nothing or it's a random full team wipe tbh

My psyker has a severe allergy

[untold niche]

my number of deaths/downs

[hasty valve]

Someone sent me this before when I wanted to know how venting shriek works. Am I the only one who feel I get like 10% of the range/spread when I do it in my games? 😅 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1215218823850889226/PsykersBuiltThepyramids.png?ex=6617a339&is=66052e39&hm=2b7b3dc226a3f789321a66922d4fa5134a6558b077ce99ebbf7733c31e2a77d3&

[untold niche]

it feels mor elike a straight line of the area t the start for me, but thats emphiracal evidence

[patent wing]

yes, its push attach is spammable and deals heavy dmg

[radiant frigate]

suspiciously dog-shaped ammunition shipment

[upper sun]

bruh psykers can not catch a break im watching telo's stream

"staves are too op and venting breaks the peril mechanic" "so manual quelling either shouldnt exist or should cost health"

[radiant frigate]

uhh

ok?

[upper sun]

"mobility is too op in the game"

[radiant frigate]

what is this person's take on plasma

[upper sun]

broken

[radiant frigate]

at least that makes sense

[upper sun]

like if all thats true why should anyone play anything other than ogryn

[radiant frigate]

no manual quell on surge for example sounds absolutely agonizing

[upper sun]

im pissy because hes a playtester and stuff like that actually gets to the devs

like whats the point of playing a high damage squishy class if you have no mobility and no damage

[radiant frigate]

"spend health to vent" is a return to vermintide which simply does not work in DT

[patent wing]

i installed vt2 and played one game. coming from darktide i instantly left as soon as i noticed that u have to spend hp to quell (and melee combat feels giga trash compared to dt)

[radiant frigate]

melee combat, trash?

[patent wing]

it feels bad yes

no feedback

[radiant frigate]

clearly we did not play the same game

[patent wing]

theres not much gore and no hitmarkers and the hitmass fees like non existant

[upper sun]

computers were weaker back then couldnt handle the gore

[patent wing]

it feels disconnected

[radiant frigate]

to each their own i suppose

[rigid sky]

I hear that tbh

[radiant frigate]

weirs complaint

[upper sun]

also vt2 is melee focused makes sense that ranged would be worse

[rigid sky]

But then again I was playing bounty hunter mostly

Which was a ranged focused spec

[upper sun]

dt is "hybrid" you can play a mission doing either melee or ranged only

[radiant frigate]

forgotten relics dlc would like to know your location

[patent wing]

to get back to this "playtester"

i really have to stop myself from insulting himn

[potent echo]

i guess theres less ragdolling in VT2

[patent wing]

shriek op xddddddddddddddddd

[potent echo]

that might make things feel anemic

[patent wing]

did he ever threw a krak grenade?

[rigid sky]

Tbf

Shriek is crazy strong

While krak grenades are not even the strongest blitz available to vet

Arguably the weakest even

[potent echo]

which playtester lol

[patent wing]

we are both talking about the same grenade right? i mean the grenade that insta kills 5 crushers at once

[rigid sky]

We are.

[potent echo]

oh telo

[rigid sky]

Still prefer shredders for most loadouts

Or having a melee that can kill Crushers for me like PS6

[potent echo]

darktide is crazy that almost everyone has a different opinion on the game

[patent wing]

vet casually killing all targets with 100000% rending from 20 diff skills while deleting all bulwarks with free grenades

balanced

[rigid sky]

Very true

[patent wing]

surge staff is literally underpowered

[rigid sky]

If you have all that rending you don't need krak lmao

[patent wing]

void needs like 3 hits to open a bulwark

[potent echo]

i agree but its hard to buff it without making it an omegalul weapon

[patent wing]

slow proectile

trauma is broken tbf

[potent echo]

making things that dont require aiming strong, might make game boring in the long run

[rigid sky]

Surge is bad design imo

Modern Surge anyway

If it ends up stronger than voidstrike

Then voidstrike doesn't exist

Similar design space

[patent wing]

voidstrike has still some waveclear

i think two crits should kill a crusher (surge)

[rigid sky]

I guess the same applies to Purgatus and Trauma though in some ways

Yeah that would be fair

I would like both of them to be better on bosses too

[patent wing]

make it a psyker revolver without headshot cleave

[potent echo]

i think surge is fine-ish as the reactive staff now

[rigid sky]

Tbf, the psyker revolver is the revolver lol

[rigid sky]

Trauma is reactive as shit too though

It kinda does everything very well

I just don't want it to be nerfed lmao

[potent echo]

surge charges faster

but the difference is like half a second

sooo

🤷

make it charge even faster i guess

[patent wing]

well trauma already needs much specialisation and many points in wc

[potent echo]

trauma doesnt need anything to do its stagger

[patent wing]

it generates much peril

needs shriek and wc

[potent echo]

i will quote telepot

"staves are too op and venting breaks the peril mechanic" "so manual quelling either shouldnt exist or should cost health"

[patent wing]

not a fan of edgin at 80% all time, since you will encounter situations were you need the fast quell cancels hits in a row

[rigid sky]

I play Blaze trauma with bubble and enhanced psionics for brain rupture lmao

[potent echo]

i guess he meant for like trauma its essentially free grenades at any time

[patent wing]

bruh 💀

[upper sun]

the game NEEDs you to edge 24/7 to survive and do damage

[rigid sky]

It's so fucking good though

[potent echo]

untrue

[radiant frigate]

what for

[upper sun]

between nexus/warp rider/one with the warp

[rigid sky]

Very all-rounder

[radiant frigate]

what do shredders even do

[potent echo]

it just makes it easier but definitely not required

[rigid sky]

I can deal with literally everything

[patent wing]

ik but the playstyle sux

[potent echo]

source: all the boneheads out there with their shitty builds in auric

[patent wing]

its boring

[upper sun]

33% toughness reduction can easily mean the difference between dying and surviving a pox burster

[rigid sky]

Horde clear if I need to be able to focus targets with my ranged

[rigid sky]

OK, that's fair

[patent wing]

its so fkin annoying to not have attack speed cuz i have to quell after every hit

[rigid sky]

I like having at least one build with the support ult on each class

[radiant frigate]

i don't

[rigid sky]

I'm Blaze trauma tbf so I need to stay around 80%

[patent wing]

i mean with purgatus its kinda okay

[radiant frigate]

what even is the support ult on vet

[upper sun]

zealot can be pretty much played as tankvet

[rigid sky]

VoC

[patent wing]

i prefer to kill crushers with flurry :D

[rigid sky]

I mean that one is so strong everybody runs it anyway

[rigid sky]

Valid. I brain burst them usually.

Or deimos them

[radiant frigate]

i guess? i feel like voc is more personal than support y

[upper sun]

the other one is equally as broken in power out/vent purge

[rigid sky]

Gold toughness is super strong

[radiant frigate]

i usually hit crushers in the head until they die

takes a while

[upper sun]

you can stagger bosses and its very low cd even without specialist kills

[rigid sky]

But that's part of why I have EP

And then Blaze trauma has such strong horde control anyway

[radiant frigate]

i consider that pretty personal

[rigid sky]

It doesn't kill very fast typically, but it kills everything in its radius at the same rate

Very similar to Purgatus tbh, but more versatile

[radiant frigate]

boss in melee? press f, free damage window

[untold niche]

i hate how i can't out dps vets on zealot ;-;

[radiant frigate]

throw krak, free damage window

[rigid sky]

You control a lot better though

[radiant frigate]

throw another, free damage window

[rigid sky]

Zealot gets so many free staggers

And is so resilient

Veteran needs to be more damaging really

[untold niche]

ccontrol with wat

like fire nade?

[rigid sky]

(I mean, maybe not to the current extent)

[upper sun]

kraks are pretty weird ive seen some vets oneshot 3 crushers with one and some miss all game

[radiant frigate]

probably among the best bosskillers outside of zealot thammer assassins

[rigid sky]

All of your ults

[patent wing]

still, quelling to only 80% is really risky, thats only 1 shot

[upper sun]

you really wouldnt expect an aoe nade to be so skill based

[rigid sky]

And a lot of your melee weapons, like the Crusher

[rigid sky]

It's homing lmao

[patent wing]

i sometimes play blaze trauma in solo mod in aurics, in the right map u can even finish games

[rigid sky]

Provided you LMB throw

[patent wing]

and i always stop at 90%

[upper sun]

🤔

[radiant frigate]

homing? you mean sticky

[upper sun]

then why do i see so many vets suck with krak

[untold niche]

no control with stealth
free revives tho

[rigid sky]

Both

[patent wing]

50% peril best

[untold niche]

its actually slightly homing

[upper sun]

also off topic but doesnt krak mean fuck

do they really call them fuck grenades

[rigid sky]

Are they RMBing it

[radiant frigate]

kark grenades

[upper sun]

idk

[rigid sky]

It tracks

[rigid sky]

Stealth does the aggro juggle

[radiant frigate]

i assume it's called that because it kraks open a tank

[rigid sky]

But yeah I find stealth zealot to be my weakest

[upper sun]

i have never ever used only rmb to throw a nade

[rigid sky]

Can be good for ogryn grenades

Actually can be good for everything but kraks tbh

[upper sun]

actually maybe zealot naplam on my feet

[rigid sky]

More for safety grenades rather than aggro grenades

[plucky flax]

Because you suck. 😦

[rigid sky]

Aggro grenades are better though, you can kill 10 shitgunners at once with it if you spot their spawns well

[upper sun]

yeofc depending on the situation

[rigid sky]

But we do all need safety nades sometimes

BTW petition to rename Nurgle shotgun users to shitgunners

[radiant frigate]

[upper sun]

chat...

i figured out the assassination bug

should i keep gate keeping it like the rest

[potent echo]

Perhaps

I don't know no bug

[upper sun]

you can skip the last elevator to the boss

so you can legit solo the entire mission

[potent echo]

🤔

[signal kelp]

Emperor gave me this. Is it good?

[upper sun]

bruh

thats too free perks

damn

[vestal fulcrum]

You can change both perks on it and have a very solid Surge

[signal kelp]

I’m joking. It’s amazing

Blessed roll for sure. By far best reward weapon i’ve ever gotten

[upper sun]

id go flak elite

dont post it anymore tho

youd get killed around these parts flashing that around

[signal kelp]

lol 😬 🫡

[upper sun]

not a joke me and another guy have spent insane amounts of plasteel and dockets rolling for something with two free perks or flak 4 and elite4

[signal kelp]

Oh I hear ya same with me. I’m as shocked as you are

[rigid sky]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the amount of joy that thing brings to look at is heretical