psyker-class

[lyric burrow]

its good against cara you want to take uncanny tho

[frail harness]

More push attacks. This is the way

[radiant frigate]

i would like it if anti armor performance was more coherent

[gaunt seal]

Made a low effort meme

[rich jolt]

Its the size of his forearm

[spice veldt]

yeah adms need a good looking at

[radiant frigate]

(i would also like it if carapace headshots did more than flak bodyshots!!)

[spice veldt]

well, that'll depend on the weapon and the adm

and not something that should be a universal rule

[radiant frigate]

it is a bit silly that headshotting maulers is counterproductive in a lot of cases

or how some weapons are absolutely worthless vs crushers

[spice veldt]

yeah though that makes it an interesting in the case of maulers

and crushers should be a proper tank

if you annihilate carapace, then that's fine against maulers
if not, then you can just bodyshot them

and crushers will be consequently a step up because their head in addition to their body is carapace

and weapons (with exceptions) should be poor against carapace

(and maulers/crushers being spawned in less numbers)

enemies should be more of an individual threat

[radiant frigate]

i want to avoid cases where you literally cannot kill crushers because none of your weapons have the capacity

think like dclaw and a lasgun

even on headshots you will be wailing on them for a good long while

[spice veldt]

i want cases like that so that your build actually suffers against certain enemies

instead of a ridiculous amount of builds ending up being generalist builds

e.g., same deal for the hsword as well

with it being mostly depressing to fight carapace with it

[plucky flax]

Heavy sword in melee scab only.

[radiant frigate]

what the fuck heresy

[radiant frigate]

suffering ok but agony bad

[plucky flax]

Then you get vet with silly power sword 1 shotting bulwark and 2 shotting crusher.

[rich jolt]

Brain blast

[plucky flax]

Seems balanced.

[radiant frigate]

brain blast is not a vet move

[rich jolt]

Oh

I thought you were talking about psyker

[radiant frigate]

no i was talking in general

and while leveling that would actually be common

[rich jolt]

Use krak nade with both nade regen perks

[radiant frigate]

you just would not have weapons that can kill crushers

especially in The Before Times™

[rich jolt]

Oh wait nvm i see wym

[radiant frigate]

so you come across 2-3 crushers and that's it

[spice veldt]

though that's just cuz before patch 12, a lot of weapons were peepee poopoo

[radiant frigate]

run over

[spice veldt]

whereas it's the opposite case nowadays

[radiant frigate]

member when thammer lights were completely worthless?

i mean they still are but they were worse

crucis at release was such a fucking weird weapon

lights: single target overheads
also lights: 1% carapace damage modifier

[plucky flax]

Most balanced melee weapon in game

[radiant frigate]

release thammer was such a strange experience coming from vt2

because you just used heavies for everything

[upper sun]

damn vets are not playing the same game as us

[radiant frigate]

most people are not playing the same game as me

[upper sun]

yeah ok knife ears go break the game with your psword and your pgun

[radiant frigate]

i only use one of those things

[upper sun]

@weary crane pls post a plasmagun clip

[upper sun]

one is too many

[radiant frigate]

unless you count illisi and voidstrike (psyker psword and psyker pgun)

in which case guilty as charged

[upper sun]

illisi is fine but why the hell can a deimos stagger a crusher

[radiant frigate]

idk

funny head stab

[plucky flax]

As op as mk6 power sword is. I'd rather my deflector slaughterer illisi.

[upper sun]

actually why can any force sword stagger a crusher

[radiant frigate]

deflector

[radiant frigate]

powered by brain

[upper sun]

the push attack alone is busted

[radiant frigate]

you can kill people with your mind so pushing them with your mind is not a stretch

(i also prefer illisi over power sword)

illisi is smoother

more maneuverable

[upper sun]

ye deimos illisi and ds4 are some of the best melee weapons in the game

[radiant frigate]

i would rather use obscurus than deimos

[upper sun]

ignore knives and pswords theyre broken

[radiant frigate]

i'm going to unravel the secrets of obscurus and become an obscurus main

[upper sun]

this is so stupid

[dusk void]

I have yet to get a good illisi sword, which is why I’m stuck with a chainsword

[rich jolt]

You mean cool

[upper sun]

I NEED MORE ILLISIS

5 IS NOT ENOUGH

[plucky flax]

To craft a useable illisi is not too hard.

To craft an ideal one though is super hard.

[upper sun]

Ikr

[dusk void]

I have 1 illisi (no clue why) but lots of Deimos

[upper sun]

other way round for me

took me 2-3 weeks for a good deimos

[dusk void]

Well, I do have 8 million dockets (the gold coins) to spend

[plucky flax]

Deimos on the other hand is not super hard to craft imo.

Uncanny can be t3 and it's fine.

I use uncanny deflector so I only need uncanny t3 or above. Deflector any tier.

Low warp resist ideally. Then maniac + whatever. I have carapace as my preferred 2nd perk.

[errant pawn]

Now I feel like I need to check my one illisi. What does an ideal one look like again?

[dusk void]

Did you manually count your swords?

[upper sun]

flak maniac slaught deflector/uncanny

[plucky flax]

My illisi. Slaughterer is must. For perks I prefer flak maniac.

[upper sun]

everytime i bricked one i added one to the count

[plucky flax]

As high damage as you can and high warp resist for specials spam.

[upper sun]

sexy

[errant pawn]

Thanks. I Couldn’t tell if you’re talking about the deimos or the illisi above

[radiant frigate]

that is an epic illisi

[plucky flax]

2nd blessing is your choice.

[dusk void]

Nerd 😆

[plucky flax]

I like deflector.

Yeah really high damage roll on my illisi. Low warp resist but it's good for like 5 specials spam in a row.

[errant pawn]

Ill post a pic of mine and we can see what I’ve been sitting on when my game boots

Never used it

[plucky flax]

If mobility and warp resist were swapped would be very cool.

[errant pawn]

Except for when it first came out and I tweaked it a little I hope I didn’t brick it

[plucky flax]

But with high damage roll and slaughterer t4 you can clear horde with just light spam even.

It's that broken.

[upper sun]

had too many of these 😭

[dusk void]

I feel like my trauma staff can clear out hordes. I must be playing this game wrong 🤔

[plucky flax]

Why do you feel trauma couldn't clear horde before?

[errant pawn]

Ugh. I cant find my screenshots folder. There’s a different one for Nvidia and a different one for steam… I think this is gonna take me a minute

[dusk void]

I never use my melee weapon to clear hordes. Only my trauma staff can do that job. My melee weapon is mostly for monstrosity damage and mutants

Fuck, wrong weapons 🤦‍♂️

[plucky flax]

When I play trauma I have like sub 100 melee kills.

I spam staff the whole game.

1.2k kills in 30 mins. Only got 50 melee

[errant pawn]

Finally found it

its def not perfect... good place to start?

[plucky flax]

Yeah you can change crit damage to flak.

It'll do very good horde clear.

Although I really like maniac on illisi for the potential mutie 1 shot. But since you can only change 1 perk it'd still go flak for faster horde clear against dreg bruisers.

[errant pawn]

I'll do that, thanks! I'll have to start rolling for the maniac, deflector, flak, shred supercombo you all were talking about earlier

at least it wasnt totally bricked lol

[plucky flax]

If you want to use deflector then go deflector slaughterer.

Slaughterer numbero uno important on illisi.

Also deflector tier doesn't matter greatly. So even tier 1 would serve you well.

[errant pawn]

Yeah. I’m just not sure which is more important between deflector and flak? I’ve been very spoiled with the mobility of the duelling sword, so I kind of feel like I could live without it with better positioning, but being able to tank bosses is always really nice

[plucky flax]

Deflector only increase block efficiency against range attack.

[weary crane]

The only thing that stops me is my ammo

[upper sun]

man no way im touching a plasma gun no way its not getting nerfed

i swear to god if FS nerfs truama before plasgun im gonna jump off a bridge

[weary crane]

To be fair sometimes i hit trappers and bombers and it doesnt 1 shot

Base plasma gun isnt op

Its just the vet talents you can combine with it

Like I have 200%+ damage

[upper sun]

keystoneless?

[weary crane]

Yes

[upper sun]

vet has some crazy nodes

[weary crane]

I can 1 shot left click a gunner because:

+20 from longshot
+25 from agile engage

• 5 from damage boost
• 5 from damage boost
• 25 from executioner
• 25 weakspot from executioner
• 15 from kill zone
• 30 weakspot from precision strikes
• 15 from superiority
• 20 from bring it down

And thats without blessings and perks lol

[upper sun]

RUN TAG AND BIND IT TO YOUR LMB

[worn beacon]

How do I play with voidstrike?

[weary crane]

Wdum

[upper sun]

sec ill show you

my plasgun is kinda mid tho

[weary crane]

Low charge is best

[upper sun]

guaranteed to get you kicked

[jovial juniper]

Try to knife a crusher with that keybind, your team will love it

[upper sun]

you may not like it but that is peak performance vet

[weary crane]

What's it doing?

[upper sun]

you tag something everytime you fire a bullet

[weary crane]

Oh for the keystone

I dont think anyone will notice macros in darktide lol

[upper sun]

oh they would notice

[smoky wigeon]

I love the voidstrike staff

is that bad?

[upper sun]

nah its a good staff

[smoky wigeon]

what is the dealio witht hat staff

can i use it with deimos?

is it good with assail?

[upper sun]

assails ok but the problem with assail is no psykinetic's aura(bruiser)

[rigid sky]

Void staff is quite versatile

I run it with illisi, shriek, Assail and disrupt destiny

But it works with pretty much any blitz and any keystone

[smoky wigeon]

HMMMMM

Does it stagger ragers well and stuff?

[rigid sky]

It fucking kills them lmao

[smoky wigeon]

oh lmfao

what blessings do yall rock? and why the Illisi?

[rigid sky]

But yeah I think it stuns them too

I like nexus and surge

Nuke staff

With DD, Voidstrike is my single target

And with DD, Illisi can one shot mutants

[upper sun]

this is what i use for void with illisi

[rigid sky]

So Illisi helps me in long hordes when they go wide

[upper sun]

slaughter and whatever uncanny/deflector/executor/unstable/ maybe even transfer

[rigid sky]

I would use either warp charges or Disrupt Destiny with it for certain

Enhanced psionics is a waste for voidstrike

Since your staff can do everything

You don't want to spend your keystone boosting your blitz

[upper sun]

yeah esp if you use smite

[plucky flax]

Why no combustion?

[upper sun]

because EE and toughness

tho idk about EE on void i mainly like it for surge

[upper sun]

🤔 actually yeah i might change EE for PC

[plucky flax]

EE is sus on everything but purga and assail from my finding.

Also you have 28/30 points on that graph.

[upper sun]

ye i dont have EE and the extra toughness underwarp rider there because i know its not exactly meta

[plucky flax]

I personally run assail with void since void is bad horde clear for me.

[upper sun]

yeah i know but psykinetics is too hard to say no to

[rigid sky]

It's the balancing factor

If PA was accessible from Assail, it would be too strong

[cosmic sigil]

you'll hit a wall 5m away while dodging or fall from a ledge

[limber ivy]

probably the best void roll i've had so far, just had to up the levels and percentages

[upper sun]

better than my best rolls thats for sure

id love one with two free perks that would be killer

[viscid fox]

My friends game keeps crashing when ever he gets to peral 100 he's on xbox anyone know a fix?

[upper sun]

the forum might be a better help

but i would say the first step is not playing psyker

[fading depot]

I take back everything bad I've ever said about brain burst psyker

purgatus + creeping flame + brainburst = psycho killer

[steady panther]

I got the Private game chess piece on a Chaos spawn with a two stack

[clear bridge]

It just KEEPS GOING

Monstrous

Well done, Boss. I'm jealous ✊ 😔

I need to get on the Plasma grind

[smoky wigeon]

I wish I was anywhere near good enough to get them numbers damn

[clear bridge]

Need to get that darn scoreboard

I'm pretty good

Not as Psyker ofc

I'm a complete rube psyker lol

Yall ever heard about VOIDSTRIKE?

Pretty good, right?

[upper sun]

hmmm missions name is cut out could be vigil station?

[smoky wigeon]

I'm shit at psyker

[upper sun]

same man

[cyan willow]

is there a weird bug for crashing when you try to use venting shriek mid-smite

[upper sun]

LETS FUCKING GO MELK RESET SOON

[cyan willow]

I've crashed three times in the last hour and they've all been from this weird moment of trying to shriek mid-smite

[upper sun]

not that i know of are you on xbox?

[cyan willow]

PC

[upper sun]

I heard of some crashes on xobox for psyker

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fucking seriously ive been looking for months

I HAVE NO 17% TOUGHNESS CURIOS FOR OGRYN

[cyan willow]

it's not every venting shriek smite, sometimes it's fine

but every crash happens exclusively when I try to shriek during smite

[cinder moon]

I think that can crash other players as well, I notice some players DC in my lobbies more frequently when I’m playing surge/smite/shriek psyker

[digital narwhal]

fun and engaging fr

[torn pond]

Was lighting staff nerfed in the last few months?

It's AOE damage seems much lower now and also staggers less than I remember

[lyric burrow]

uh how long ago did you use it

last

[torn pond]

It's probably been a few months but honestly I don't remember the exact date

December-ish, iirc?

[radiant frigate]

siblings i have to say dueling sword feels good actually

[lyric burrow]

i dont think they have changed it in a way that affects CC since then no

[radiant frigate]

it was changed when talent trees released, to differentiate it from the zappy hands

it now is a 1-2 target weapon

but quick to deploy and decently high damage

[torn pond]

Ahh that makes sense

I did notice it seems faster and more spammable

Haven't played psyker in a while. Trying to test out some new builds with all the changes and see what I like

My zealot and veteran builds are frankly OP and I feel a bit spoiled playing them compared to psyker

[radiant frigate]

my zealot is passable

my vet is nice

my psyker is joy

[lyric burrow]

ah yeah if you havent played since the rework then its v different

smite it closer to what you would remember surge as

[cinder moon]

surge with concentration stim is hilarious

[upper sun]

my vet has one good melee weapon and one rifle couple of ok curios

my ogryn has one good shield

psyker is fine but maybe 2 more curios and zealot needs non marty curios

im so close to ignoring all plasteel mapwide

[lyric burrow]

my psyker is totally finished i think

i have a good/perfect version of p much every weapon available to them

minus mks i dont care about

[torn pond]

What do you run on psyker?

[radiant frigate]

usually illisi/voidstrike/brain burst/shriek/DD

[lyric burrow]

yeah despite having a lot of issues with psyker tree and stuff i really enjoy the class

gunker my beloved

[radiant frigate]

i would not say that

neither on the perfect weapons nor gunker front

though i do wonder how many hours that takes

[lyric burrow]

i have 1.3k and my psyker is level 450 for reference, but i wasnt constantly rolling stuff really

i would take breaks from rolling

[cinder moon]

i have roughly 560 hours, 200 of which was solely zealot play from early access through to about september of last year when i started playing psyker in earnest

i'd say maybe 200 hours on psyker with some focused rolling on particular weapons and some luck to get two good staffs, one good illisi, and one good laspistol

[lyric burrow]

i do wonder what my hours on psyker are

[tribal girder]

what is the best blessing on psyker combat blade 6, regardless of gunker or not

[lyric burrow]

Uncanny precog, but exe/riposte also work

Over precog that is

You 100% want uncanny

[tribal girder]

I see, I already have that combo

It's just the first target is kinda low, 58%

[lyric burrow]

Ah yeah

Thatll kinda kill it

Sadly

[tribal girder]

Dump stat is damage and mobility?

[lyric burrow]

Just mobility

Everything else is good to have high

[tribal girder]

Damage comes in second right? Other percentage modifiers are more important

[lyric burrow]

Id put damage/FT/finesse equally at first and then pen

But im picky

[tribal girder]

I see

Only dumping mobility is roigh

Thx anyway

[lyric burrow]

Yeah its a rough wep to roll

[cosmic sigil]

Exec stance with plasma T_T

[cinder moon]

plasma executioner's is great

[radiant frigate]

i very much hate exec stance

[lapis violet]

if i could only pick between the mk2 and mk5 dueling sword, which would i go for?

[harsh urchin]

No lol knife is just a hard weapon to roll

You ideally just have a high rating one with every stat being high

I would try to make ds and fs first

[cinder moon]

5

[cosmic sigil]

It's like having chocolate sauce on a chocolate cake.

[cinder moon]

double chocolate is good

[cosmic sigil]

🤢

[cinder moon]

with executioner's stance you can actually see targets through crowds, walls, etc., getting the most out of plasma's penetration capabilities

anti-shooter plasma is fun

[tribal girder]

yooooo

[lyric burrow]

nice

now just swap the perks

[tribal girder]

carapace unyielding right

[lyric burrow]

i run flak unyield i think, im not sure cara actually changes your breakpoint id need to check

[dim parrot]

[tribal girder]

i like carapace for killing maulers

[proper osprey]

It really seems like the only good staffs are purg and trauma

Back when assail was good you could use surge but it sucks now

And voidstrike is decent but it doesn’t clear hordes like trauma

Also hope they rework ep

Or make it a regular skill

Wish it made bb do a big aoe of bbs

[worthy scaffold]

Thoughts on this force sword?

[potent echo]

EP as a talent node 👀

Void assail is my go to fun loadout now, I used to be a purg addict but the playstyle got a little too dry

[orchid shadow]

I use Surge as my only staff. What issues do you have with it?

[runic summit]

Surge/venting/head pop will forever be my favorite staff build

[thick carbon]

it's so beautiful

[raw oriole]

Scrier's Gaze Gun Psyker weapon combos hit me.

[untold niche]

+12 zealot that only use ciag 9doesn't take out melee

0 elite kills

ZERO

MAN COULDNT EVEN KILL GUNNER WITH CIAG

[harsh urchin]

umm

seems pretty standard

[cosmic sigil]

zealot best ranged class!

[wind spruce]

Voidstrike is extremely good. It's an s-tier weapon.

[untold niche]

He went chorus btw

[untold niche]

No no no no way.
This is normal damn as well

[cosmic sigil]

laspistol, columnus / graia iag

revolver works too

but that's because revolver works on its own with surg + hand cannon

[ornate hamlet]

Did he utter the absolute gem of "I'm doing a support build"?

I love those

[cosmic sigil]

''i am a pacifist zealot''

[clear sundial]

does +damage from perks affect the DoT burn damage from the purgatus staff?

[potent echo]

Yes but you must have that weapon out

If you burn and swap to melee, melee weapon perks apply

[clear sundial]

understood. thanks

[potent echo]

Not sure if the latest patch changed anything though, I'm leaning towards no

[cosmic sigil]

speaking of dots, latest patch nerfed kant shotgun fire slugh infinite cleave hard, while improving flechette a bit

[plucky flax]

Does it not pierce infinite bulwarks anymore?

[steady panther]

Is mark five auto guns psychic good

[rigid sky]

It's probably the best gun for Psyker due to its finesse multipliers and fire rate

[cosmic sigil]

nope

#zealot-class message

[rich spindle]

my thoughts exactly

[cosmic sigil]

Kant is dead now

[wind spruce]

voidstrike bad pls buff
(no assail)

[cosmic sigil]

God Oce be like: I know everyone on this SB

[quartz barn]

tbf both bonk and theone barely did anything

[potent echo]

How long was that mission

[cosmic sigil]

Irosk is better than most

[plucky flax]

Why nerf that's already pretty niche

[potent echo]

Can't kill snipers behind bulwarks anymore 😔

[cosmic sigil]

It's dead baby. Totally dead.

[untold niche]

Yuh only like pierce three peepo

[potent echo]

Like 3 pox walkers?

[untold niche]

Yuh very sad

Wait I double check later

I might confuse with my vet's kant shotgun which has less damage

[potent echo]

I assume horizontal cleave is the same but you just can't pierce anymore

[untold niche]

Should be three tho
Last time pierce everyone very cool

[potent echo]

I switched to Agri before the patch

[untold niche]

What didf between og volvo and new volvo btw

What diff?

[cosmic sigil]

Og Volvo had cleave

Not nu Volvo

https://youtu.be/0PAVMSpFKsY?si=teA0dMX_9eTXUeEn

[untold niche]

Can you type please. I don't really like the video for very subjective reasons

:3

[potent echo]

I wanted to ask also

[untold niche]

Ok tell me after you watch @potent echo

[cosmic sigil]

Tl dr, og revolver has cleave and bullet magnetism

[untold niche]

Nee volvo can headshot? Or very inaccurate

[cosmic sigil]

Nu revolver has speedloader

[untold niche]

Ohh notice

Noice

[cosmic sigil]

It's a bit trickier

[potent echo]

Pierce 5 walkers and 2 maniac ragers about there

It reloads all 5 rounds at once

[untold niche]

Does it shoot exactly at center of screen but they don't give crosshair or is there actual in accuracy

[cosmic sigil]

Non braced is fine. Braced is more like magdumping a bolter

[untold niche]

So you only brace it to proc that crit blessing right

[potent echo]

Braced is more accurate than hip fire, I have the crosshair mods

It tightens a little

And also yea I used it mainly to proc deadshot

[cosmic sigil]

It's true. Everything is better with the crosshair mod

[untold niche]

Does the blessings Carey over from old volvo to new volvo

Or have to grind again

[potent echo]

Yes

Can reuse

[cosmic sigil]

It's same category different mark

[untold niche]

Thanks

[cosmic sigil]

Crucian roulette handcannon is good

[untold niche]

Then I think new volvo better

Old volvo need to keep reload

I had habit of reloading after every shot

[cosmic sigil]

I think you should watch the video

I had a lot of fun with a sustained fire speedloader nu volver

Is it meta? Nope

But it's fun

[cosmic sigil]

I haven't used it on vet yet. Just psyker and zealot.

[untold niche]

why new volvo not meta

[potent echo]

No pierce

[untold niche]

ok basically, im pretty sure that guy is singaporean / malaysian (more likely sgprean) and that is not how he usually speaks which annoys me a bit

[potent echo]

Doesn't oneshot one line of gunners lol

[untold niche]

why need pierce for volvo, jus t shooting gunners/specialists

[potent echo]

Yea the specialist behind horde or behind elite you can't hit it

[untold niche]

thats why you put 75% height smh

[potent echo]

You can try it, I still prefer the zarona

[untold niche]

totally no pierce?

[potent echo]

Also I think lower damage so harder to hit certain breakpoints

[untold niche]

i see, i thinkign what weapon to use for m yvet now that kant no pierce so much

so most likely between the volvos or the spread shotgun

[stuck sinew]

Lawbringer with manstopper/Scattershot has some goofy horde clear

[potent echo]

I loving Agri now

It's not horde clear though

[stuck sinew]

It's the single load sniper

[potent echo]

I have a lawbringer piety build on zealot and it's something

Agri doesn't need the even load the slug to snipe

It's so accurate when ads you can reliably one shot gunners elites from 12m away

[next turret]

all of the suddden halfway through missions when i use smite, i get this. GUID: a1ff5a58-ee03-4ff3-89d8-98e4748503c5
Log File:
Info Type:

---

[potent echo]

Need to check the actual crash log to see what went wrong

[cosmic sigil]

oh lol i was wondering about that actually

[next turret]

thats a long document it is]

[untold niche]

ya spread shotgun

[proper osprey]

No horde clear, it’s a good staff at what it does but due to assail being nerfed it got hurt as well

[proper osprey]

He doesn’t know about rendering trauma and soulblaze trauma

[untold niche]

i think if there is a tunnel hallway void would clear horde better simply because of the infinite cleave

given that agent is here, im sure everyone knowas about sb trauma

[stuck sinew]

Void has better single target, so depends what you want ig

both are good

[vestal fulcrum]

I'm fairly certain that they know what Trauma is capable of doing, but when you compare that to Voidstrike, it really can't kill at range reliably and doesn't do a whole lot single target damage

[rich spindle]

I think the fact that trauma completely trivialises any absurd number of bulwarks crushers and maulers puts it above void

[radiant frigate]

i think the fact that trauma makes you not use your melee puts it below void

[rich spindle]

real

[still hearth]

Surge + Smite with EP is a perfectly fine replacement. Or just burning Shriek with Smite.

The big deal isn't even the horde clear, it's the AoE stagger of the other staves. Especially trauma.

[hoary badge]

void does not have infinite cleave

[still hearth]

This always remains weird to me. What ranges do people play at usually where trauma is hard to use? Most sections aren't super open, and when they are you can avoid it pretty easily. The only issue might be snipers but they die in like 2-3 LMB shots anyway.

[mental rock]

I think he is referring to the explosion, not the bowling ball, when saying infinite cleave

[hoary badge]

the blast radius is so tiny though

[vestal fulcrum]

I always typically play Trauma at short, rarely medium (~15m) range and make up for the lack of burst capability with Brain Rapture

[still hearth]

It's not

[hoary badge]

pretty sure people dumpstat br

[still hearth]

The damage is

[untold niche]

so sorry, i meant pen.
seems to have infinite pen.

[still hearth]

The explosion damage is like 10% of the shot

[vestal fulcrum]

Blast radius outside of epicentre is quite big, but the damage deal in it is relatively small

[hoary badge]

I meant pen as well

[untold niche]

against zombies isn't the pen some really absurd number?

[hoary badge]

it's 6 per full charged shot

[vestal fulcrum]

Charged shot has like 10 cleave, no matter at what charge level

[still hearth]

I've just never felt the need for longer range than that outside of niche situations, so I rarely account for it.

[untold niche]

defo not 6

[still hearth]

And other people usually have guns.

[vestal fulcrum]

more likely 8

[untold niche]

unless they nerfed it again :(

[vestal fulcrum]

(8 poxwalkers that is)

[still hearth]

It used to be 8 for a max charge afaik

[vestal fulcrum]

I mean, me neither, but I'm the VS oppositionist and will somewhat always prefer Trauma regardless

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-monkey-gun-shooting-gif-17888605

[vestal fulcrum]

Trauma just trivialises melee encounters completely, as long as a boss is not involved

(which is both a good and a bad thing for the game )

[untold niche]

dat what void feel like

[hoary badge]

welp mb, I was going off values from a search from this discord

[upper sun]

as long as ragers have tracking on their full combo i will keep using it to cheese them

[hoary badge]

void was my least favorite of the 4 so I guess I should give it more of a whirl now

apparently it got like a 80% cleave buff since class overhaul

[cosmic sigil]

god, sometime it's too much of a chore to play psyker and manage n resources

so i play bolter vet

[potent echo]

10/10 wow

[proper osprey]

Ep with smite ain’t no way

You never build around your blitz

[potent echo]

assail EP is still assail EP

brrrrt

[potent echo]

even with nerfs and stuff

[cinder moon]

ep smite is dope

[radiant frigate]

smite is weird

[cinder moon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

the only time i'm afraid to use smite is when there's a warp shadow across my mind

[radiant frigate]

I'm not afraid to use smite but it does make me feel like I'm wasting my time

[upper sun]

inside you are two smiters:
Team pls kill this mauler for me and YOU'RE WELCOME SIMPLTONS

[vestal fulcrum]

The third elusive Smiter just pulls out the melee weapon and kills it.

Easily the rarest smiter variant

[cinder moon]

smite is for when there's too many heretics to reasonably handle at once

[torn grove]

Smite requires judgment from the user and the other players to be used effectively.

[cinder moon]

peak psyker teamplay

(when used appropriately)

situations which would call for teammates to throw grenades can be trivialized with smite

[stray helm]

Smite is disgustingly powerful

[rigid sky]

Also synergises well with grenades fwiw

What's better than an incendiary grenade?

One where you're immobilising the heretic scum inside it too

[radiant frigate]

i tried to play gunker today (to check curio authenticity) and was shocked to find i have smite instead of assail

day ruined

[stray helm]

smite is for doggos and when you get flooded by crushers/bulwarks

for crowds you can usually work your way through them or someone on your team can

but for doggo hordes/chonky lad swarms

think like 10+ combined maulers + crushers + bulwarks

then you smite and its just easy

when otherwise that shit would make almost any team backpeddle

(or just 1 ogryn grenade)

[radiant frigate]

ogryn 😔

[stray helm]

biggest, friendliest, rock

psyker and ogryn have by far the best lines in the game

[rich spindle]

beautiful

[cinder moon]

these dogs never stood a chance

[cinder moon]

psyker + ogryn teams have great interactions

[calm sapphire]

Trauma staff > Smite imo

[rich spindle]

yes but palpatine

[stray helm]

ive done this so many times when you quick play into high intensity hunting grounds

[cinder moon]

smiting for >30s never gets old

only thing i hate about smite is sometimes poxbursters just ignore the stagger and jump right at you through it

[rich spindle]

are you talking about when you let go and it pushes them

[stray helm]

pox bursters are fucking weird. Some shit makes them pop without any interaction, other times I swear they dont even have an audio cue and can charge up the beaches of normandy without stagger

[cinder moon]

no, like, they literally ignore the active smite and jump through it as if it weren't there

[rich spindle]

sometimes they perfectly quake live airstrafe around a corner with no audio

[stray helm]

the audio cues in the game are a bit wonky

is it because there are too many and some get layered out or something?

[rich spindle]

I dont even risk it. I just let go and push them because that explodes them at any distance

[stray helm]

push is only an issue if someone else is firing random shit in the direction and force them to detonate on you rather than pushed away from you

[calm sapphire]

Prob too many specialist spawning at times

[stray helm]

if they dont notice and plasma gun the crowd not seeing the pox burster, it fucks you up. Push is still the best way to deal with them

[stray helm]

thats waht I was thinking, you usually notice the missing audio cues when you get flooded with random shit and then the important ones like trapper or whatever come from no where

[zinc phoenix]

Smite left click can push pox from miles away

Very handy

Two pushes with it and boom

[jovial juniper]

Hunting grounds event consistently messing with my audio

[cinder moon]

pictures taken right before disaster

[calm sapphire]

Me when I don't hear the laughter of a spawning trapper

Only to get surprised when I hear the net cue

[cinder moon]

i love instantly dying after a res because teammates were too stupid to throw a grenade

[stray helm]

Getting rezzed while in fire is fucking hilarious and also rage inducing lol

I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me down

[jovial juniper]

Funny seeing me jumping on third person

[cinder moon]

when the game can't handle such power

[weary crane]

not bad brunt

hadron butchered

maybe not

the perks are good

[upper sun]

bruh thats fantastic

just change to shred to uncanny

[weary crane]

precog no?

vs my max level

[upper sun]

you have two free blessings anyways on it

thers a mod that lets you try blessings in the psykhanium you can see what blessings work best for your build without wasting plasteel

ok

i was testing stuff with deimos

the push attack also gives uncanny stacks

🤔

[dusk void]

What mod is it? Send link please

[radiant frigate]

it is a guaranteed headshot so yes

[mental rock]

Yeah special attacks on weakspots will also give you 4 stacks of uncanny

[upper sun]

idk but ive seen a lot of youtubers use it

[radiant frigate]

but they do not give 4 stacks of true aim

i would like some consistency

[dusk void]

I’ll search on nexus mods

[potent echo]

Loadout config, you can't find it on Nexus, check the modding discord

[rigid sky]

Deimos should take uncanny if you plan to use it with purgatus at least

it makes a super nasty combo with that

apart from that uncanny is typically the best option when it's available

it's like old slaughterer, or current brutal momentum

[upper sun]

uncanny executor is nice

[radiant frigate]

what if a weapon has uncanny and brutal momentum available..

[upper sun]

three games in a row same two people

games not doing too well is it

[rigid sky]

Such a weapon would be too powerful for the imperium to allow to exist

[radiant frigate]

i thought vet shovel had this

but i was wrong

[rigid sky]

Vet shovel doesn't have Bromentum, and ogryn shovel doesn't have Uncanny

[radiant frigate]

ogryn shovel has brutal momentum and vet shovel has uncanny

Yes

[tulip kettle]

uncanny is overrated.

and i can show you why

im lying

uncanny is great, but if youre running uncanny, +carapace is pointless

deimos just needs uncanny and + maniac to be awesome, everything else is a bonus

[subtle swift]

getting bored of the power sword. time to go back to the DS4

[fresh reef]

pinnacle of gun psyker gameplay right here

[untold niche]

have you tried using DD

[upper sun]

what personality is that?

[untold niche]

ah he has same one as mine

i think all the voices get annoying after a while ngl

[upper sun]

yeah i was gonna say

[untold niche]

i havent found any voice that is iconic

i think ogryn one is ok

other than that all of its very

[upper sun]

im happy with psyker and ogryn tbh

but female cadian and male judge were mistakes

should have went loose cannon and something else for zealot

fem cadian has zero lines

[lapis violet]

@upper sun this is what happens when i switch from EU central to EU southeast

chuckles i am in danger

and now i switch back to central

dude what the hell

[jovial juniper]

It's the french, female variant

Aka beloved

[lapis violet]

they're lvl 17

[lapis violet]

female judge is hillarious sometimes. something about this high-and-mighty older woman, so obsessed with the emperor and her own faith while at the same time not having that faith give anything to her in return is really funny to me

[jovial juniper]

Also, you could've saved them, speaking from experience because I definitely don't let psykers die from bursters

[lapis violet]

lemme get a clip i made yesterday

[jovial juniper]

Specially because they tunnel visioned with purgatus

[tulip kettle]

the scottish female zealot is peak

[lapis violet]

gets so annoying to me for some reason

[tulip kettle]

i think savant sucks on psyker very quickly, but the german sounding male psyker is awesome imo

[jovial juniper]

Definitely saved them all

[lapis violet]

mostly because of the idea of people picking that personality specifically because the chick is scottish

[tulip kettle]

four shortened lifespans

well its allowed for me 🙂

[jovial juniper]

I love savants

[lapis violet]

no, not four shortened lifespans. foreshortened lifespans

[tulip kettle]

my first psyker is female savant

but i got bored of her and shes such a goody goody

[lapis violet]

(i've never heard that voiceline)

[tulip kettle]

i prefer meta commentary psyker

the way scot zealot says scunner

cant get enough

[jovial juniper]

I like the duality of savant, being an asset and a liability

[tulip kettle]

only one zealot penance to go, then im down to the one private game ogryn one

meh

shes just a nerd

talking about the lex imperium and protocol

[lapis violet]

an additional clip because i find it funny

[tulip kettle]

dont bully the bots

[lapis violet]

i will

[tulip kettle]

when chatgpt rises up it will remember

and you will be punished

https://tenor.com/view/kent-brockman-insect-overlords-simpsons-reporter-welcome-gif-16530360

[lapis violet]

sometimes a gigachad and a guardian angel when somebody leaves and the bot gets you up

[tulip kettle]

ROBOT*

[jovial juniper]

I can clearly see that you don't like savant, oh well

[lapis violet]

BROTHER WE'RE ALL DOOMED ALREADY. WE AREN'T HELPING CREATE THE BASILISK

[tulip kettle]

my savant is lvl 150

i just got bored of her

fewer lines than the rest

and she just wants to talk about soap operas and following the rules

also peaked in enforcementy school

[tulip kettle]

haha i never heard that one

got left on read by the ministorum

L

[lapis violet]

i think it was a reaction to whatever the fanatic said before

[tulip kettle]

its one thing i think isnt mentioned enough

they add new voice lines

like, quite a bit

when they do other minor patches

[jovial juniper]

Agitator is so sure she's above the others

[lapis violet]

like the ones the psykhanium lady started saying

[tulip kettle]

yup

and yup

agitator has a good heart deep down tho

she offers to teach slab to read 😄

[lapis violet]

she is though. "how could a wretch like me understand" whenever somebody compliments her

[tulip kettle]

tell me slab

[lapis violet]

or am i confusing the personalities again?

[tulip kettle]

for why dost though counteth thy fingers in the trasnport?

[jovial juniper]

Agitator wants to be a scribe and doesn't scream blood for the god

[tulip kettle]

agiutator is the one you see the least i think?

the posh sounding one

[lapis violet]

high gothic*

[tulip kettle]

because she had way fewer voice lines earlier on in development

[jovial juniper]

One of the banters with the Escort, her certainty falters

[lapis violet]

the escort?

[upper sun]

🤔

not recommended huh

shows what they know

what are the detials?

[tulip kettle]

i just leave it on what its on

[lapis violet]

it's been 10 minutes

this is my 2nd attempt

before that was 15 minutes

[tulip kettle]

im guessing its non english translation of bodyguard

or sthing

but i have definitely heard the lines

where she gets all doubtful

[upper sun]

ye im using eu central

[lapis violet]

i think brawler makes the judge's certainty falter

[jovial juniper]

Not the brawler nor the bully

[tulip kettle]

bodyguard

like i said

escort

[lapis violet]

"and does the emperor respond?" "no, not really. it gets tough"

[tulip kettle]

yeah thats it like that

[lapis violet]

it's 100% the brawler

[jovial juniper]

Yeah bodyguard, thanks

[tulip kettle]

just fyi

in english, a bodyguard is a protector, an escort is a prostitute

[lapis violet]

not necessarily a prostitute but it's a very similar profession

[jovial juniper]

💀

Alright

[tulip kettle]

a high class prostitute who gives the girlfriend experience

ANNYYYWAAAYY

[jovial juniper]

Ahem the bodyguard

[untold niche]

wait is shotgunner elite or specialist again

[tulip kettle]

im sensing pain, suffering, and foreshortened lifespans

elite

[lapis violet]

elite

[untold niche]

kek im a dumbass no wonder

i was wondering why this didn't proc

[tulip kettle]

?

[lapis violet]

kekw

[jovial juniper]

I'm sensing great... stupidity

[lapis violet]

specialists are the dudes that get deployed and make a specific sound

[lapis violet]

they're that or maniacs

[untold niche]

rager dun make sound :p

snoiper oso no sound

[lapis violet]

and rager is maniac

[tulip kettle]

maniacs can also be specials

[lapis violet]

sniper makes loud steps

[untold niche]

i never hear snoiper i swear

[upper sun]

specialists are the ones that make the team freak out and run in every direction

[tulip kettle]

specials are : dogs, trappers, mutants, snipers, flamers, bombers

[upper sun]

yeah thats what i said

[tulip kettle]

😄

[lapis violet]

cuz it's just steps. gets drowned out by literally anything else

[untold niche]

where rager

[tulip kettle]

ragers arewnt specials

[upper sun]

elite

[tulip kettle]

they are elites

and maniacs

maniac is an ADM

[untold niche]

mfw im 200+ combined and still get confused

[upper sun]

yeah they awent :3333333

[tulip kettle]

special and elite are classes

dogs, for example, are infested adm and special class

[jovial juniper]

it's like the bomber but not as loud

[tulip kettle]

snipers also make a "wharrmp" sound when they about to shoot you

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?

[tulip kettle]

so yes you have heard their special sound

[upper sun]

thats good for enemy types and armor

[jovial juniper]

Or similar to glass breaking if too close, I love it

It also deafens you for a quick second

[upper sun]

anyone know of a good zero iq melee weapon for zealot other than eviscerator?

[lapis violet]

heavy sword

[tulip kettle]

the ironhelm hammer is what i enjoy for brain off

[lapis violet]

chainsword

[upper sun]

is there one thats good for armor

[lapis violet]

neither hammer is a brain off

[tulip kettle]

same as vet power sword

lol ironhelm is

push

special

heavy heavy

ad infinitum

[lapis violet]

the thing there is the push and whatnot timing

[upper sun]

yeah but my brain currently can not handle 1L1H for clear

[tulip kettle]

lol no timing required

[lapis violet]

i might be dumb but it takes practice

literally chainsword

[tulip kettle]

just push, press special, swing twice

[lapis violet]

i like the 13 but the basic one is also good

[tulip kettle]

you dont even need to push

also check this build

[upper sun]

what do you use for second blessing?

headtaker?

[lapis violet]

for?

ironhelm or chainswords?

[upper sun]

ironhelm

i have zero chainswords for zealot

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bacacdf-d265-4e30-850a-9323252f0677/critz

well depends how brain off

for ironhelm complete brain off its thrust and momentum

[upper sun]

🤔 nah im shit im gonna take momentum

[tulip kettle]

so you get toughness

[lapis violet]

i getchu

momentum goated

[untold niche]

does zealot have dclaw?
i would say caxe

[tulip kettle]

shame about the crit chance, but this is one my ironhelms and the most brain off

[lapis violet]

dclaw is a good option. i don't like it but it's good

[tulip kettle]

check my build above for dclaw brain off zealot

[lapis violet]

and i don't have an opinion on caxe

[tulip kettle]

i didnt do the curios but i would take one +3 stam, one hp and one toughness

infinite parry

perma chastise

more than 50% crit chance with significant cleave

is v good

[jovial juniper]

Martyrdom attack speed buff + light attacks = motion sick simulator

[upper sun]

yeah

i do one less wound with marty for stam

[lapis violet]

i just don't have an opinion because i haven't used enough of the weapon to see its strengths

[tulip kettle]

catachan dclaw mk 4 is the best mark

move set is perfect

and then you get parry

one + stam curio and + 2 stam on the weapon

its almost infinite parry

oh, 10 rager patrol?

parry

oh, plogryn?

parry.

6 crushers about to end my whole career?

you guessed it, parry.

[upper sun]

cutie pie

[lapis violet]

what a beauty

[tulip kettle]

i cant enjoy the hsword

[lapis violet]

pity on the high def+lower cleave targets

[tulip kettle]

all of the movestes feel poopoo

[upper sun]

it hits 5 targets

[lapis violet]

it's an attack speed thing

[upper sun]

idk how much you need for 6

[upper sun]

hows the clear on it?

[jovial juniper]

I go full wound as martyr the true suffering experience

[tulip kettle]

really very good

[lapis violet]

it's so goodd though

[tulip kettle]

but it does require L1H1

[upper sun]

i tried that but i really need the emotional support +3 stam

[tulip kettle]

hoinestly the last wound is not worth sacrificing 3 stamina for

just not worth

[lapis violet]

skill issue

[tulip kettle]

with even 5 wounds you get more dmg from martyrdom than the other keystones

6 is plenty

[upper sun]

okay im gonna try one game with heavy sword and bolter

[tulip kettle]

7 is unecessary

[lapis violet]

nah fam 7 is the only real way

if martyr, you can't just choose to not go all out

[tulip kettle]

try the build i posted above

[upper sun]

if i dont like heavy sword too much ill try building a dclaw

[lapis violet]

terrible idea. super slow running

[tulip kettle]

heavy 1 on cat 4 is overhead for one shotting every Non- elite

L1-H1 spam with chastise every 2 seconds

fully horde blender brain off mode

i have solo clutched vs chaos spawn, weakened BoN and about a million ragers on the prison level on the catwalk bit

[upper sun]

thanks Big E

[tulip kettle]

could not have done it with any other weapon

[digital narwhal]

[tulip kettle]

lol L

[tulip kettle]

assail?

[digital narwhal]

Yeah

[tulip kettle]

800 ranged kills 😄 gotta be assail or hoovering

and you didnt get flamed

[digital narwhal]

Kinda need it when you're running around with a Combat Knife and Columnus IAG as Psyker

No ammo reserves Talent, so you gotta have Assail for general efficiency

[tulip kettle]

ofc dude

i still think youre abusing 3rd person tho :p

[digital narwhal]

3rd person?

[tulip kettle]

rewind about 6 weeks :p

[digital narwhal]

??

You mean the 3rd person mod?

If so, I don't use that shit

[lapis violet]

that might be by far the worst brick i've ever seen

[digital narwhal]

It's weird

[tulip kettle]

oh you stopped?

[digital narwhal]

I never used it

[tulip kettle]

?

[digital narwhal]

Are confusing me for someone else?

[tulip kettle]

dont think so

[digital narwhal]

Possibly Okri?

[tulip kettle]

ahh possibly

big slab man with shield

[digital narwhal]

Mhm

Yeah no, 3rd person mod fucks up your aim big time

So I don't use it

[upper sun]

hmmmm not bad

[tulip kettle]

pefect dude

i would just infested for flak then give it a go

save the other mod slot

[upper sun]

i think savage sweep is prolly better if i dont go blazing

[tulip kettle]

precisely

[digital narwhal]

Flak + Maniac seems like the obvious choice here imo

[tulip kettle]

SS no crit build

nah maniac for what

you will 2 hit ragers with parry with or without maniac

[upper sun]

yeah ill just do flak for now

[tulip kettle]

and cant reach new thresh for maniacs

[lapis violet]

WHERE are you getting these 370+s

[upper sun]

i have 700 dclaws

[tulip kettle]

his pile of 10000000 dockets and autobuy mod i guess

[digital narwhal]

Thought Maniac allowed you a breakpoint on Trappers and Flamers, as well as giving you the Mutie one shot on crit

Or am I misremembering

[tulip kettle]

i think you will 1 shot trap and flamer anyway on weakspot

and i dont think you can 1 shot mutie with dclaw but i could deffo be wrong about that

[upper sun]

i had zealot at 30 for a while but never played it just got any weapon with 370+ without playing

[jovial juniper]

Suffering builds character and hoo boy my character is well built

[digital narwhal]

100% can

[tulip kettle]

hmmm

[upper sun]

my poor psyker had to slave away for hours on end to feed 3 babies

[tulip kettle]

on zealot?

how?

[upper sun]

i just used the dockets from playing psyker to buy brunts crap for every other class

[digital narwhal]

Psyker can juice up their damage with Disrupt Destiny and Warp Rider

[tulip kettle]

were talking about zealot here

[digital narwhal]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

[tulip kettle]

in psyker chat 😄

[still hearth]

Zealot not having damage

👀

[tulip kettle]

so maybe with 6 stacks martyr but even

[upper sun]

yeah zealot chat is for shitposting

[tulip kettle]

i dont think you can 1 shot mutie with dclaw 4

[upper sun]

and making fun of two people

[tulip kettle]

psyker is for the true gigabrains

always has been

[still hearth]

Nah

[digital narwhal]

I've seen it done many a time

[tulip kettle]

maybe on special condition

[still hearth]

Psyker chat had the most copium

[digital narwhal]

Could be a mix of things, but likely Inexorable Judgement playing into most of it

[digital narwhal]

Nah, true Muties

[tulip kettle]

i cant see how you would do 4k dmg in 1 hit with dclaw

[digital narwhal]

I mean, Muties do take 3x melee damage

[tulip kettle]

without critting

[digital narwhal]

So

[tulip kettle]

dclaw is not known for its damage

compared to say DS4

and DS4 struggles to 1 shot muties

[digital narwhal]

I've seen DClaw do it, and I've done it with DClaw on Psyker with minimal buffs.

The strikedown goes hard.

[tulip kettle]

yeah its pretty good

im not saying impossible

i just dont think you can in any way consistently 1 shot muties with dclaw 4 specifically

on zealot

dclaw shines vs stuff it can parry and cleaving hordes with crits, IMO

cant parry mutie charge

[still hearth]

Assuming you have stacks up and use a charge

Then you can one-shot mutants reliably

Gotta hit the head though

You need to have rampage and sustained assault, or some other buff for about 20% melee damage

Actually nvm

Just rampage is enough with the +25% from charging

[tulip kettle]

i didnt consider chastise

the guaranteed crit is good but its certainly not brain off to chastise and strikedown the mutie when its charging you

[digital narwhal]

Rampage, Melee Nodes, Martydom or Inexorable Judgement.
It all comes up to some nutty damage on crit.

[tulip kettle]

well, i did my 40 stunned kills penance on zealot

so now i get to do a run with IJ and crucis before its back to psyker

[untold niche]

600k excluding destroy dockeats, no good caxe on vet

https://tenor.com/view/sad-monkey-gif-27630897

[fluid skiff]

thats only what, 60 of them?

[untold niche]

smelting gave another 100k

[tulip kettle]

i stay away from popo!

[upper sun]

ok dclaw is fun

i dont even have to do the correct clear combo

with ssweep and rampage i shred through anything just spamming m1

fighting bosses is kinda hard tho

[tulip kettle]

just parry them dude

plogryn cant hurt you

spawn, dodge for the grab attack

when it does the 3 attack combo, parry, dodge, parry

and BoN always sucks to fight in melee so its w/e

DH also parry it

i think running shred instead of ssweep with a piety build and 2 charges of chastise is better

you have almost constant chastise

and ofc u are dmg immune when chastising

one H attack = 30 sec CDR

sorry, 30%

so, chasitse > L1 > H1 >chastise

rinse repeat

then parry any bosses

ez mode

[upper sun]

yeah i do parry but i also do less damage than evsci

[tulip kettle]

parry it in the head.

[upper sun]

i did the assassination mission

[tulip kettle]

oh to be fair

[upper sun]

my entire team was dealing with the hoard will i was DUELLING

[tulip kettle]

evisc special will always be better vs the boss

[upper sun]

ye

[tulip kettle]

cos u can 25% it with one special

but other mosntrosities catchan is equally good because their attacks turn into dmg vs them

[upper sun]

i didnt take too much damage but i was taking forever to deal with it

[tulip kettle]

yeah its not really for that

at the same time

you can duel it forever and take 0 dmg

just by parrying it

[harsh urchin]

claw is a weapon for not taking dmg

not for doing dmg

[upper sun]

hoard clear is very good though

[tulip kettle]

it blends hordes and maniacs and specials tbf

its got great DPS vs spawn and plogryn

and DH but yopu never fight those

[upper sun]

might end up running it more often i do struggle with ragers a bit

[tulip kettle]

parry spam them = ez mode

[upper sun]

like can they fucking remove the god damn tracking from their combo