psyker-class

[spice veldt]

taking ~1/4th damage from gunners/reapers

and second wind (not proccing from the gunners, but they usually spawn with ranged chaff that do proc it)

[magic kayak]

I've been going hard on psyker non stop

might need a break and try zealot

[torpid girder]

VERY VERY fun
You basically use ur mobility to zip to the front and backline helping your team with hordes and anything that you need dead NOW you can just take out your revolver in .5 seconds and shoot it in the head and it's dead and u can go back to meleeing everything

it's soooo fun, it reminds me alot of the demoknight playstyle from tf2

[magic kayak]

can you post up build?

[spice veldt]

i've migrated from psyker -> vet and finally to zealot after learning forbidden knowledge about the chainsword

[torpid girder]

ya! Mine is kiiinda weird tho cuz it doesn't have faithful frenzy and twbs so u can make changes depending on ur preferences

[magic kayak]

oh? like what? I have an evisc ix thats decent or is it chainsword specific

[spice veldt]

i'm not sure if the other chain weapons also have it

but the chainsword has no weakspot/crit damage falloff as you hit targets

normally, it'd drop to 1.15x after the 1st target hit

[magic kayak]

oh wow

[spice veldt]

this means that crits actually contribute to horde damage on the chainsword

[torpid girder]

how good is the chainsword vs the heavy evis btw? I've been wanting to try out all the other melee weapons

[spice veldt]

and makes it one of the best melees for a crit build

[lyric burrow]

the ADMs on crit are also very sane

[magic kayak]

evisc is pretty sweet but chain sword is just so fast

[spice veldt]

chainsword has more horde damage against the eviscerators in an idealized scenario of 100 poxwalkers stacked on top of each other

[magic kayak]

haha

[spice veldt]

but that doesn't necessarily translate to performance in actual games so take it as you will

[lyric burrow]

i dont think its even close

in that scenario

[rigid sky]

Chainsword IV is a great horde clear weapon

not great against crushers, eviscerator XV does those in better

eviscerator XV just has a relatively low target cap

[spice veldt]

the chainsword is also one of the weapons with a +0.3 increase to its crit damage to flak so that's always nice

[magic kayak]

evisc has like 11 enemy cleave though

[torpid girder]

Also this is the build I run, I use up alot of points cuz i wanted to grab immolation grenade but if u want to use points on other nodes u can just grab blades of faith instead

[magic kayak]

Or I might have that wrong I don't recall how cleave works, but thought it was target cap

[torpid girder]

these are the weapons i'm currently using (This is a crusher not a thammer)

[spice veldt]

i think the XV does have a target cap on its lights

i don't think the mk2 evis has it on the heavies though?

[spice veldt]

chainsword sweeping heavies have 8 cleave
evis sweeping heavies have 9.5 cleave

[magic kayak]

this is the xv

[spice veldt]

huh interesting the lights have higher cleave than the sweeping heavies

shame that they're damage target capped

[magic kayak]

how can I tell dmg cap on heavies

[torpid girder]

it's weird to me how the bigger swords have less cleave than the little ones

[magic kayak]

yeah it seems like light attacks with evisc xv is just amazing for hordes

the heavies for crushers etc

[spice veldt]

intuit it through the morphogenetic field (painfully test it or look at the calculator)

e.g., this is the damage distribution on XV lights

the rows indicate the damage dealt to the nth target, beginning from the top

[magic kayak]

cap of 4?

[spice veldt]

at the 5th target and beyond, it has zeroes, meaning that you straight up do zero damage to the 5th target and beyond

[magic kayak]

weird how cleave stat shows 11+

[spice veldt]

yeah it's a bit confusing

you still technically "hit" enemies

e..g, you will still stagger them

it's just the damage specifically that is capped

[magic kayak]

that is shockingly similar to what I run

[magic kayak]

horrible item stats then, it specifically shows dmg cap and stagger cap on lights lol

both at 11.54 on mine for instance

[spice veldt]

yeah it doesn't even show it on heavies

[rigid sky]

Also I think it depends on enemy hit mass

[spice veldt]

and the stat cards only show the stats for the first attack of the attack combo

[magic kayak]

Well, still way better then when game first came out haha

[rigid sky]

not everything is worth 1

[torpid girder]

Could be a weapons difference that causes the disparity between playstyles then maybe? i don't rlly have experience with alot of weapons but ik they affect how u play zealot a ton
or every class really lol

[jovial juniper]

Strap bloodthirsty on the mk15, you will need chastise, numbers won't matter

[spice veldt]

get out your calipers

[rigid sky]

so you'd struggle to cleave through 4 crushers for example

[magic kayak]

let me count the pixels

[spice veldt]

though carapace armour stops all finite cleave by default

[magic kayak]

unless you have uncanny

[spice veldt]

so no amount of cleave, except infinite, will go through them

nah uncanny doesn't do that either

[magic kayak]

the god tier blessing

it doesn't?

[spice veldt]

you need Perfect Strike or Sunder for that

[rigid sky]

oh shit that's cool

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike just messes with ADMs

[rigid sky]

didn't know about that

[torpid girder]

oh my god i just realized weapons all have their own descriptions

[spice veldt]

perfect strike and sunder give a tag named along the lines of "ignore armour stop blah blah" that does it

[magic kayak]

I thought uncanny let you hit multiple crushers at once

ahhh thats right

yeah it was perfect strike

so you can help kill chaff surrounding crushers and maulers etc

[spice veldt]

(the descriptions for perfect strike and sunder are also annoyingly bad and terrible)

[magic kayak]

On par though

[spice veldt]

shame that perfect strike isn't on the weapons where i'd take it over other blessings

e.g., chainsword

(Perfect Strike and Sunder do essentially the same thing, just that perfect strike activates on crits and sunder is on psword specials. They both give 400% cleave and allow you to cleave past carapace and bulwark shields)

[magic kayak]

seriously

So I was running the fire shotty on my zealot but want to try something else any suggestions?

[tulip kettle]

HOLD UP, WOAH

YOU NAME IT

[spice veldt]

bolter is a nice weapon

[tulip kettle]

i like bolter with throwing knvives

[spice veldt]

i run it on my crit build as Bolter + throwing knives + chainsword

[tulip kettle]

never without it tho

u want pinning fire abd the brittleness blessing

[magic kayak]

so I'll go to orange I guess, what blessings am I going for

ok thanks

[spice veldt]

the usual suggestion is pinning fire + cavalcade for blessings (cavalcade, assuming you're running chastise)

[magic kayak]

yep running chastise

[tulip kettle]

you can also chastise and kill anything regardless of the blessings

[spice veldt]

just that chastise brings carapace adms up to flak adms (which are 100% on bolter)

[tulip kettle]

press chastise and shoot

[spice veldt]

so brittleness/rending is going to have a reduced effect

[tulip kettle]

yeah depends how you play#

[magic kayak]

usable?

I got shattering

[tulip kettle]

looks great

not perfect but pretty fking good

[spice veldt]

3/4 so good nuff

[tulip kettle]

i would change surgical for pinning fire

[magic kayak]

ok and perk swap?

[tulip kettle]

then infested for flak or maniac or unyielding

[magic kayak]

it'll have to do for now

[tulip kettle]

depends really

[magic kayak]

ok

[tulip kettle]

you can also put carapace

if you mainly use it for crushers

[magic kayak]

alright and I have evisc xv as well

[upper sun]

shattering is good and surgical isnt bad either

[tulip kettle]

pinning fire is must have

shattering is very good second imo, i run it

[upper sun]

yeah

[tulip kettle]

if you go flak

it will kill most things just fine

if its a crusher group, press chastise and mag dump

also

CAN YOU HIT ME ONE TIME

want smoke then you got the wrong guy!

[magic kayak]

what curious on zealot? +3 stam I assume as one of them?

[tulip kettle]

i only run stam when im running catachan sword

depends what keystones you go as well

you doing martyrdom or IJ or piety?

[upper sun]

zealot has great base stamina

[magic kayak]

blazing piety

[upper sun]

but i do run stamina since i can block everything with it

[tulip kettle]

and you using until death and unholy rev?

[jovial juniper]

And has access to more on the tree

[magic kayak]

yep

[tulip kettle]

in which case, i would presonally run 3 + hp on histg daMNATION

maybe 2 hp and 1 tough

then tough and stam and gunner res on the perks

highger max HP is more value with UD and rev

[spice veldt]

yeah zealot having +3 base stamina (compared to vet's 2 and psyker's 1) and regenning 1.5 bars/sec means that i usually don't have to worry about stamina

[spice veldt]

i like to stack toughness on zealot and especially with a crit build

cuz of enduring faith

[tulip kettle]

get throwing knives

with bolter

[magic kayak]

yeah was about to swap that actually

[tulip kettle]

use throwing knife to cancel the swap animatiuon

[upper sun]

oh shit they do that with bolter

[tulip kettle]

yup and flamer

flamer and bolter i only run with throw kjniofe

[magic kayak]

enduring faith gives 1.5 modifier on every toughness point you pump in, that makes sense

[spice veldt]

this is my talent selection with my crit chord build

basically just duellist and twbs compared to your current tree

[tulip kettle]

yup exact same as mine

i like to add flavour with a shred catachan sword IV with shred

[magic kayak]

I took off disdain on mine just now for second wind

[tulip kettle]

i think on zealot, if you have thy wrath, until death and holy rev

you cant really go wrong with whatever else you pick

[spice veldt]

p much

the usual picks of that and sustained assault + melee attack speed

they prob should move those talent nodes around since they're easy picks

[tulip kettle]

i still cant decide if i prefer IJ or maryrdom for my crucis 1 shot build

even with just 2 wound curios martyrdom has higher max dmg

but requires low hp, whereas IJ is really easy to get max stacks for the bop

[magic kayak]

I haven't unlocked any other blessings yet sadly

Actually I do have bloodletter iv

and wrath

[tulip kettle]

i just realised this is psyker chat

[magic kayak]

I know shredder stat is low but honestly this is best I have

haha yeah

[spice veldt]

nuh uh

[magic kayak]

zealot chat is unhinged

[tulip kettle]

trueeee

all the other class chats are awful honestly

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-22265960

average psyker chat user

[magic kayak]

exactly. all the big brain strats

[tulip kettle]

ooo, seriouly, look at myself

condom model over here

[magic kayak]

so, momentum swapped with bloodletter or wrath?

[cinder moon]

keep momentum

infinite toughness in hordes

[magic kayak]

Yeah I do like that a lot

[cinder moon]

rampage already does enough as a damage boost

[jovial juniper]

Bloodthirsty

[magic kayak]

if I unlock blood thirsty that would be great

[jovial juniper]

All you need

[rigid sky]

Definitely not wrath on a XV

think I use shred/rampage

[mighty cipher]

HELP

[rich spindle]

zealot-class

[rigid sky]

man voidstrike is fun

[opaque tendon]

did they fix scrier's gaze + warp charge cd

[dusk void]

He got me screwed up with this name 😂

[main wyvern]

praise be

we got a surge staff

[onyx sentinel]

is it even possible to hit a non-crit 1 tap on a mutie with the DS5?

nvm you can

[harsh urchin]

Ds5 sadly is just not as good as 4

Does 40% less dmg for no reason

[cinder moon]

5 has superior mobility iirc

[torpid girder]

your gun is so strong it removed all other noise XD

[cinder moon]

although it's kind of moot considering how mobile DS are in general

[harsh urchin]

Afaik the numbers are identical

So do you have any proof?

[cinder moon]

do you?

[harsh urchin]

Yes I remember looking at the mobility stat and seeing that the numbers were the same

So yeah the burden of proof is on you

[cinder moon]

[spice veldt]

mk5 has a mildly better dodge distance for some reason, presumably arising from some weird interaction between the mobility and defense stats

[harsh urchin]

Not sure I'd trade off 40% dmg for like 5-10% dodge distance to be fair

[cinder moon]

to wit

[plucky flax]

Ds5 has more dodge distance and more swag

I use it with trauma cos I never melee with trauma

[cinder moon]

i used to like mk5 more, visually, but mk4 says THE EMPEROR PROTECTS on the blade, and has a nice gilded vibe to it

[radiant frigate]

i don't really like the dueling swords

but they do look pretty

[crude vortex]

They take time to get used to ye

very pokey heavy attacks good for piercing big boys like Crusher if you got the stats

[cosmic sigil]

DS2 is swaggest

[cosmic sigil]

If you want to proce rampage reliably you need wrath

Unless you do the heavy sweep after t L1 et l2 but that's cumbersome

I would go wrath Shred on a X15 and SS shred on 4 now... Considering how the crits work on a chord

Nevermind we're talking about evis

Rampage shred is probably the best combination on a x15 but rampage momentum is nice too

[plucky flax]

Side swipe D:

[abstract arch]

i really love the combat blade on psyker.

... i also love it for the mental image of my 4'9 psyker running around and stabbing the big guys with a tiny blade xD

[near wyvern]

Combat blade has entered the chat

[near wyvern]

Combat blade + kinetic deflection and you are absolutely unkillable by melee as long as you don't corner yourself

Uncanny strike on it and you can kill all the enemies in reasonable time

[radiant frigate]

every time i run knife i wonder why i brought a short blade to a longblade fight

[near wyvern]

Cause with the knife (especially the 6) you can push attack spam a crusher or a mauler to death while the trash has to dance there and watch the show

That weapon literally needs no brains to use

[radiant frigate]

but you still need to outdance the crushers/maulers, yes?

[abstract arch]

I dont run KD most of the time because i feel like im too bad to use it. I alwys run three +3 stamina curios with block efiency and stamina regen and it's absolutely nutty if you put KD on LOL

[radiant frigate]

too bad to use it? explain

[abstract arch]

i dont think i have the skill to use it

[near wyvern]

I use only one +3 stam, the rest is overkill

With KD you can use all your stamina for moving

[abstract arch]

i agree it can definitely be overkill XD ive gotten so used to my huge stamina bar though i feel naked without it xd

[stuck sinew]

Reject the meta, embrace stamina

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1191370398651125820/image.png?ex=66017a25&is=65ef0525&hm=925cf2599c1d77a23edc61122fa0f158bb0c36d6da29db3620459bf4a7a38c06&

Get three of these

[abstract arch]

thats exactly what i run on all three every build except i like CDR because im constantyly spamming my ability off cooldown XD

[upper sun]

anymore block efficiency and youll block out the sun 😭

[abstract arch]

well the loner does have dialogue about hating the sun (probably a vampire)

[upper sun]

i hate the fact that vampires are a thing

[abstract arch]

in general..=`?

is this thing in 40k?

[upper sun]

😰 I-i think its better if i dont answer this

[abstract arch]

im sorry i just git confused

[upper sun]

yeah lets forget all this talk of vampires '

[rigid sky]

Blood angels are basically vampires or something right?

[upper sun]

technically all space marines can eat the flesh of humans and gain knowlage from it blood angels just glitched into being crazy about it

also actual warp vampires do exist

but i have no idea if they got retconned or what

[rigid sky]

I know this is one of the things that makes Tom and Ben really angry lol

[upper sun]

I think every single person has a little bit about the lore that they will absolutely rather die than admit is now cannon

for me its how vulkan fucked off and made his space marines go on an easter egg hunt to find him and how they retconned the creation of space marines

[supple ledge]

in the grim darkness of the 41st millenium, there are still numerous heretical fanfictions about edward cullen

[abstract arch]

and here i was hoping there would be culture for vampire the masquerade sessions in a grim dark future... although with the thought in my head there might be more appeal to the more high fantasy to escape the terrors :p

[radiant frigate]

one possible talent is called psychic vampire

take from that what you will

[cosmic sigil]

I think xenos vampire are still canon but you never know

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader (1st Edition), pp. 205-206
Warhammer: Siege (1st Edition), pg. 94
Warhammer 40,000: Rulebook (4th Edition), pg. 125
Codex: Black Templars (4th Edition), pg. 44
Inquisitor - The Thorians (Specialty Game Sourcebook) by Gav Thorpe, "The Ordo Xenos", pp. 17-18
Fabius Bile: Clonelord (Novel) by Josh Reynolds, pg. 53

Sources citing warp vampire

[junior linden]

Fantasy/AoS has sick vampires at least

[cosmic sigil]

Abhorash ❤️

[upper sun]

Pain....

[halcyon gust]

You love to see it

A very good base rating weapon

[upper sun]

i hate the DH change

[halcyon gust]

And you watch in real time as Hadron bricks it before your eyes

Rescue the operative

While the DH hates your guts

The operative will save everyone else

And you become a Marty for the emperor

Everyone wins!

Except you

[upper sun]

people(not me) cant even solo the game in peace anymore

[halcyon gust]

If you do psuh a head everyone will teleport to the next respawn point

[upper sun]

ye he tried that then got pox bursters in every direction

[halcyon gust]

Fun!

With a silent burster surprise as well

[stray helm]

wtf level 12 psyker with assail and Im just clearing with hordes

[halcyon gust]

Assail on lower difficulties is just easy mode

[stray helm]

also i have no idea how you play this class without vent. It requires like managing your peril instead of screaming oh shit

[halcyon gust]

You learn to ride that balance well with practice

[stray helm]

yeah im doing malice and the occassional heresy/high shit malice runs

i sstill pop lmao

[halcyon gust]

Even the best of us goes pop sibling

[stray helm]

i do have a psyker question though

void strike vs lightning staff which pairs better with assail vs brain burst (ive already played support zealot through to level 30 and damnations, not playing support psyker so lightning is out)

i straight up had to have a friend walk me through how emperor palpatine stick even works because i didnt initially figure it out

[halcyon gust]

Void strike plays nice with all of Psykers Blitz abilities

[stray helm]

i feel its damage is a bit... underwhelming?

if i pair that shit with assail for example, and a monstrosity shows up. I feel like I can barely contribute unless i have a power attack melee (force sword/chainsword)

[halcyon gust]

Void strike is quite powerful

[stray helm]

maybe my staff is just shit, its only 190 rating

[halcyon gust]

That explains it

[stray helm]

but it should scale to malice equivalent shouldnt it?

[halcyon gust]

You're still in the "Tutorial" phase of Darktide for your Psyker

Where you're crawling your way to 30 where the "Real" game begins

[stray helm]

im doing damnation runs with my ogryn

but yeah psyker is new and i dont understand peril management well at all lol

i also didnt play the witch in vermintide

[halcyon gust]

It's really about towing that line. Something you learn with lots of practice

Because psyker has 2 skills that wants you to be at high peril as it gives them solid TOughness damage reduction and bonus damage

[stray helm]

sorry which two are those?

[halcyon gust]

These 2

[stray helm]

right

[rigid sky]

also every staff besides flurry trauma uses warp nexus

which also wants high peril

[halcyon gust]

I was about to mention Warp Nexus

[stray helm]

lmao i only understood like half those words

[rigid sky]

and then creeping flames lets you cash in high peril for monstrous long range aoe damage

[stray helm]

ahahhaha

[rigid sky]

The best builds for all of the staves includes warp nexus

[stray helm]

oh yeah im familiar with creeping flames

[rigid sky]

the blessing

the only exception is Trauma, if you go for the rending shockwave/warp flurry build

[halcyon gust]

Which gives you higher crit chance on staffs the higher your Peril is

[stray helm]

i got a guide open right now, just trying to find the node

[rigid sky]

(on the other hand, warp nexus is most important for the blazing spirit/warp nexus trauma, since it doesn't start fires now unless it crits)

[halcyon gust]

There's a Force sword version called "Unstable power" which is well more Power on your weapon the higher your Peril is

[rigid sky]

warp nexus isn't a node

it's a blessing

[halcyon gust]

Blessing found on all Staffs (Not shared between staffs through)

[stray helm]

ohhhhh

[rigid sky]

Super impactful given how much crit synergy psykers have

mettle etc

[stray helm]

right

[halcyon gust]

And Psykers have a base 7.5% crit chance

[stray helm]

ill look into that once i hit 20s and start doing heresy runs i reckon

unless i get lucky with a random shop staf

[halcyon gust]

Don't start really building until level 30

Save those resources until then

[stray helm]

i always start building

nah, i enjoy experimenting

i dont get legendary or waste resoruces like that

but to try different weapons and stuff is best from the random freebies you get

i do wish there was some kinda exp bonus for all chars after your first level 30

the grind is long

[halcyon gust]

Why during the early grind you slap +Experience on your early curios

It helps a lot

[stray helm]

good tip

but yeah on my zealot run, i tried out literally ALL the weapons. Cost a bunch, but I had shitloads of gold from getting ogryn to 30 and ogryn weapon selection isnt deep so it was cheap to experience all there is there.

Low level weapons are super cheap as well, like several thousand and you can try out a completely different weapon, its grey, but its different you know

[halcyon gust]

I'm saving all my resources for the eventual crafting rework

[stray helm]

only psyker staff i havent played with yet is the fire one and it looks shit

[halcyon gust]

Purge is pretty solid

[stray helm]

maybe you need more talents, esp in soul blaze or something, it looks like a weaker zealot flamer

[halcyon gust]

It's funny that Zealots are jealous Purge staff is a better flamer than their flamer

[upper sun]

yeah im just buying any good base i see

[halcyon gust]

Speaking of good bases

[stray helm]

smh my head, not a kickback

[halcyon gust]

It's a 380 base

[halcyon creek]

Hadron gonna turn it into a fake square rock 🧱

[halcyon gust]

Holy shit. 2 380s

Emperor bless me today

[halcyon gust]

Brick weapon means more throwing ammo for Ogryn

[upper sun]

ye i get good stuff for ogryn too

its prolly the game trying to tempt me into play a class i dont play

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is better than flamer by a lot imo

since it's free and you still have a long range blitz

[upper sun]

flamer is crazy ammo hungry

[rigid sky]

zealot loses too much flexibility taking flamer imo

It also feeds you warp charges

but that's really more of a thing for level 30

but it's the best warp siphon weapon for spamming shrieks imo

and there's the uncanny strike trick with it too

[halcyon gust]

Wonder what sort of buffs we could get for the flamer

[upper sun]

like this guy too

[rigid sky]

man, on any other weapon

[upper sun]

yeah i know

[rigid sky]

but no, that flamer has to be the one where it's damage 80 and ammo 40 lmao

[stray helm]

i just realised there is a very strong chance i wont know how to play zealot without venting shriek if i keep playing it with venting shriek and use it as my panic button

[halcyon gust]

That'll be a good first step in Psyker's way

[upper sun]

just switch to plasma vet

[halcyon gust]

Learning to not use Venting as a "Oh shit I'm about to pop button"

[upper sun]

its pretty much the same thing

[halcyon gust]

Except you don't blow up

[upper sun]

not if i can help it

[halcyon gust]

If you use charged shots a lot. Yeah you'll blow the damn gun up

[upper sun]

vet is the only class i could do twins on

[halcyon gust]

Vet was the class I used to beat the twins as well. Plasma gun goes brrr

[upper sun]

also thrust shovel 😄

[stray helm]

my go to class is still the ogryn to block everyone's line of sight

its an important job, someone's gotta do it

[halcyon gust]

Thank you for being a meat shield. I'll just shoot through with my Revolver, Hellbore, if I'm feeling Fancy that day. Plasma

[upper sun]

also is it just me or are the burst fire weapons utter trash

[zealous pewter]

they are yeah

[upper sun]

i liked them in other games so i tried one on vet it doesnt do anything

recoil worse than an auto gun

and less damage

[zealous pewter]

yeah there's a decent number of guns that need some help

the single shot headhunter is almost good

[halcyon gust]

I'm hoping we get some love to those weapons

[stray helm]

can anyone explain the hype behind columnus infantry autogun?

[zealous pewter]

highest dps in the game

[stray helm]

it feels shitty to use though :c

[halcyon gust]

And prey the weapons that are great don't get nerfed to the trash can like the Recon lasguns

[zealous pewter]

i like the columnus

the only problem with it is the damage falloff at range

but it's still the best gun

[stray helm]

i tried it out with zealot and will eventually try it again when i give gun psyker a whirl

[upper sun]

yeah if this shit was a columnus it would be god tier

but its still great

[zealous pewter]

i run columnus on my psyker, zealot, and vet whenever im not running plasma gun

dumdum+stripped down goes hard

[upper sun]

i usually do graia braced for zealot and that weapon for vent/power outage

also i feel like fire frenzy and deathspitter have a too low time limit for retaining stacks

[zealous pewter]

yeah i used to run them but i don't think they're really that great

[upper sun]

3.5 sec isnt enough

[zealous pewter]

stripped down opens up too many cool things you can do

the others dont compete

like as zealot you just charge straight into 10 gunner shooting you and you're invincible

[halcyon gust]

It's Zealot. They do insane shit on a daily basis

[zealous pewter]

well anybody with a columnus can do that

[halcyon gust]

20 crushers, 10 ragers, 5 reapers, and a Plague Ogryn in your way?

Zealot: I solo that

[zealous pewter]

vet w/ power sword likes it a lot too

[upper sun]

power swords are expensive to build tho

[zealous pewter]

vet actually does crazier stuff with stripped down than zealot

stripped down gives him infinite stamina if he's being shot at

[upper sun]

i like zealot because wound curios are cheap and they always come up with good perks

[zealous pewter]

so you can theoretically be invincible forever from shooting

[halcyon gust]

Power swords just suffer they're pigeon hold to Power Cycler 4

[upper sun]

🤔 game needs a power force sword for psykers

[halcyon gust]

If you don't have it as a "Learned" blessing....You, Hadron, and Melk are gonna become "Great" friends

[upper sun]

because deimos and illisi are clearly not good enough

[zealous pewter]

the force sword special does almost exactly as much damage as the heavy attack

but it's very slightly faster to charge and swing with it

[upper sun]

i swear some blessings are coded to have a lower chance

[zealous pewter]

has more rending too maybe?

i actually do use the force sword special in a lot of situations but you have to know which breakpoint you're hitting with it

there's no point in just using it randomly

like 2 surge charges will freeze a mutant and then one swing with special kills it

[upper sun]

t-the melee bash?

y-you bash mutants?

[zealous pewter]

why not

i dont know what bash means though

[upper sun]

the staff bash?

[zealous pewter]

no the force sword special

[upper sun]

ah ok

i thought you bonked muties

[zealous pewter]

no i have no idea what that even does damage wise

never used it before

[halcyon gust]

It's funny one tapping Muties with the Force sword special

Even better as they charge at you

[zealous pewter]

which sword does that?

or is that just with the gunker build?

[upper sun]

10-30 damage

[halcyon gust]

I gotten some nasty 1 taps with Ilissi force sword

[upper sun]

deimos special attack or second heavy attack on head

[zealous pewter]

yeah i can't one shot a mutant with ilissi with my build i'm pretty sure

warp siphon

but i run deflector, so i dont have two damage blessings

[upper sun]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa WHY IS EVERY GAME HUNTING GROUNDS

[halcyon gust]

This is my sword

[upper sun]

nice

[halcyon gust]

Wish Shred is something else

But the extra Crit damage is nice in a pinch

[main wyvern]

You can rename your weapon?

Or is that a mod

[halcyon gust]

Mod

I rename my weapons I use as it makes it less likely I sell them by accident

[upper sun]

at least its not transfer

like thats the nice thing about force swords

THEY DONT FUCKING HAVE BARRAGE

[halcyon gust]

*Hadron will find a way *

Hadron Always finds a way

[upper sun]

i seriously hope whoever made terrifying barrage runs out of hot water everytime they wanna shower for the rest of their lives

[zealous pewter]

will be nice when they do the crafting update, but might be a minute before that drops

[halcyon gust]

Darktide update

• Added Terrifying Barrage to all weapons Even if it doesn't make sense

[upper sun]

yeah ikno

[halcyon gust]

Hopefully we get some new blessings to play with

And maybe make some blessings base to the weapon itself

[upper sun]

i was thinking of mailing them a hand written letter of me just wishing minor inconveniences on whoever made that blessing

actually i might even do that regardless even if they release the new crafting system

YEAH LETS ADD A SUPRESSION EFFECT ON WEAPONS WITH A GOOD BASE SUPRESSION EFFECT

[frozen loom]

I don't want to complain about sub 30s in damnation pubs, but why do they have to go down first 😢

[zealous pewter]

yeah like the primary fire mode with surge+voidstrike almost instantly fears hordes

all of the best guns have high suppression too

[rigid sky]

Even funnier pulling it off with a regular heavy

feels like cheating

love DD

[buoyant maple]

Which force sword is that, illisi?

Or deimos

[halcyon gust]

Illisi

[buoyant maple]

Swap unstable power to blazing spirit

[halcyon gust]

I have my meme blazing Illisi

[buoyant maple]

Shred + blaze is really nice

Bloodthirsty + blaze is funnier tho

[upper sun]

shred blaze is mid

[mellow elk]

me need sum help to do psyker penance

[upper sun]

which one

[mellow elk]

well the outfit one

the torso

[upper sun]

thats a bunch of them

redacted or regular

[mellow elk]

the private game one

redacted

im tried many match

never end well lo;

[upper sun]

i tried it with bots didnt work so well

if you can find two people i can try

[mellow elk]

sum chinese dude one shot the nurgle beast

well i shall keep seeking then

my steam name same johnnyd0gs

[upper sun]

maybe one can be enough if we can kill the bot

[mellow elk]

oh sht forgor to change the name

[upper sun]

its easier with fatshark codes

[mellow elk]

maybe

i thinking if only need to kill the beast or finished match with killed beast

[upper sun]

nah just kill it

[frozen loom]

Went out on a limb and got this

[upper sun]

nice surge is good with flak and anything else but i wanna have one with either maniacs or elites t4

[frozen loom]

I can prob swap infested and R&G

[upper sun]

ye thats what id do

[mellow elk]

that 373 look pretty nice

[frozen loom]

this one's my current favorite child but the new one is def a contender

[upper sun]

Oh wow

id still swap maniacs to flak since a lot of enemies have base armor as flak

[frozen loom]

I've been considering it, ngl.
Mauler spam has been an issue in my damnation runs

[upper sun]

flak is good for maulers too

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies/scab-mauler

Base armor type Flak Armour

[frozen loom]

I mean yea. Sorry, to rephrase: I've been considering switching to flak bc of Maulers.

[upper sun]

ah yeah flak is great for surge and you already have elites its a very good roll

[halcyon gust]

Flak is great since it hits a lot of common enemies

[frozen loom]

I'll test it out later in meatgrinder. Maybe not having maniac isn't that big a deal for flamers

since ragers have both a maniac and flak version

[halcyon gust]

Maniac helps with Dreg ragers and Muties, but is always nice to have as well

[upper sun]

the best options for surge are flak +elite/crit chance though I have no idea if adding maniac changes any breakpoints

you need two shots for a rager right?

or 3?

seek god

[halcyon gust]

Begone bot!

[upper sun]

i was just gonna tag the wardens lmao

[untold niche]

i always headshot them even though i know their head is cara

🐭

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-stilgar-fremen-disbelief-gif-17405899726704623697

[upper sun]

same

ragers bane of my zealot maulers bane of my psyker

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-villeneuve-sandworm-gif-27467812

[upper sun]

FOR THE LOVE OF THE EMPEROR I HAVE 6 370+ AXES

give me DS4s

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/baron-harkonnen-gif-23956650

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-salute-gif-23914861

[halcyon gust]

Oh my

Should have expected it....

[dim parrot]

ah yes lovely hadron

[halcyon gust]

I hope the crafting rework removes the concept of locks.

I'll take paying a higher material cost to fix weapons if Hadron doesn't get it right

[dim parrot]

that would be pretty awesome, but we'll see

[frail harness]

What do I do with this?

Steam guide suggests maniac damage for the mutant one shot

[plucky flax]

Yes I just came back from dune part 2 a few hours ago and it was glorious.

Can't wait for dune messiah in like 5 years. 😭

[dim parrot]

haven't watched it yet

[plucky flax]

Do it me fren.

Greatest director of modern time.

[dim parrot]

will do will do in time

[upper sun]

cant have shit in atoma

[dim parrot]

imma play the try not to get spoilerd strat

[plucky flax]

I actually didn't read or watch any reviews prior to today.

Only saw the few trailers.

[dim parrot]

haven't even watched those lol, just watched the first part and thats it, would go to the cinemas, but my friend that is interested in that kinda shi is away for a few weeks, so imma wait for a bit I guess

[plucky flax]

Hrm I one of those that don't mind going to the cinema alone.

I watched it today with someone but if it's something I enjoy I actually prefer watching by myself.

[dim parrot]

true, but at the same time yeah nah nah yeah

[errant pawn]

Man so many weekend warriors going down today

[halcyon gust]

Weekends are the best time

[dim parrot]

im jealous of the people that have a 3 day long weekend

[halcyon gust]

It's spring break around my area

[dim parrot]

for me it starts on the 25.

[halcyon gust]

Already lots of idiots doing idiot things here in my neck of the woods

[dim parrot]

these fucken druggos

[bronze hound]

Worth upgrading it?

[dim parrot]

yes why not

do it

[bronze hound]

44% WR looks like shit tbh

[halcyon gust]

WR is a dump stat

[dim parrot]

depending on how u build it, quell can be a dump stat too

[upper sun]

WR breakpoints are usually pretty lenient

but the issue is if you go from a staff that has 70% wr to one with 50% you can blow up if you're not careful

[untold niche]

more fun to shoot at the head you know 🐭

[untold niche]

ok just test this:
80% peril, can you shoot two half charge
80% peril, can you shoot one full charge
if yes to both, no problem.

[untold niche]

not my bane tho 🐭

[radiant frigate]

ragers bane of my sanity

[empty bloom]

which headhunter autogun is the good one?

[upper sun]

the one called Columnus mk5 autogun

[empty bloom]

thats an infantry...

[upper sun]

[empty bloom]

i know the columnus is good, but i want to use the headhunter. which one is the good one?

[jovial juniper]

Vraks 7

[cosmic sigil]

Vraks 7 is single shot and vraks 3 is 3 burst shot.

[upper sun]

burst shots need a buff

[halcyon gust]

That be a knife

[upper sun]

why is the order so fucky?

[rotund fable]

Brunt sold me this beautiful weapon, now lets see if hadron decides to brick it

[upper sun]

it should be damage mobility pen cleave first target

[rotund fable]

First consecration, and i get native carapace

[upper sun]

stop edging us and post the whole thing

[rotund fable]

Delfector 3 for first blessing

[upper sun]

🤔

[rotund fable]

Hmm, questionable second perk

eh... i can work with this

bloodthirsty for uncanny, and the stamina for maniac i suppose

would have loved a native uncanny 4 then i could just swap the perks

[upper sun]

change damage for block eff and bloodthirsty for precog

DEIMOS OF ULTIMATE DEFENCE

[rotund fable]

But i like being able to special-light-1 and suddenly have 4 stacks of uncanny strike ready to ignore the enemies armor entierly

Final product

[stark nova]

Keep or roll another?

Also could this be used on the psycho killer build?

It rolled with unstable power 4 yeet

[frail harness]

What does the delayed flash on Assail RMB mean?

[halcyon gust]

Basically what the dagger is locked on to

[errant pawn]

If I were to switch back to a dodging blessing for the mark 4 ds which is better again?

riposte or precognition?

Ah nvm

[harsh urchin]

Generally precog

[stark nova]

Can the Illisi sword work on psyko killer?

[harsh urchin]

You can use whatever you want for whatever build you want lol

Those are just setups pygex likes

[kindred ivy]

EP smite + shriek + revolver > anything else

[jovial juniper]

Debatable

[kindred ivy]

memes aside is a pretty solid build

[fair spruce]

the space marine impersonation project progresses swimmingly

[half iron]

i love the among us collar‼️💯💯

[fair spruce]

it's my space camp astro cadet lil' astronaut helmet

also, fishbowl

[rotund fable]

The Emperor gave me a laser pointer.

(this was a mission reward)

[stuck sinew]

🔥💯

[jovial juniper]

Make him proud

[supple ledge]

the emperor provides

[rigid sky]

Hm, idea

roguetide

must equip every emperor's gift you get immediately until one replaces it

on top of permadeath on mission failure

[supple ledge]

actual use for %chance to replace mission reward with curio?

[fluid skiff]

how much toughness damage reduction do most builds generally run?

[fair spruce]

some of my grab bag of curios in rotation

I typically run two resistances per curio, at least one per

bomber and flamer resist is super handy now that the dust has settled on how fire does damage

since you can bunny hop around while in the fire and reduce the damage you take

suddenly you're not forced to immediately drop what you're doing and panic run away

you can cross bomber's AoEs if you need to, you can take a tick or two of tox flamer's fire if it allows you to reach them to bonk em in melee

[harsh urchin]

Generally only gunner res on curios is needed if you want

But for psyker i would recommend flat hp and tg

You could do what he ^ recommends and run a couple dmg res ones

3x hp, 3x tg, 1x gunner, 1x flamer, 1x bomber should be reasonably decent

For psyker

[still hearth]

Y'all dancing in flames

[sharp flint]

I only died once as a psyker and my zealots died like 10 times

[harsh urchin]

Must be build issue

Zealot is pretty much immune to damage if you have the right nodes

[rich spindle]

why HP not toughness

[harsh urchin]

I said both

[rich spindle]

yeah why not all toughness

[harsh urchin]

Because certain enemies ignore it

So you need a bit of both to have good survivability

[hollow current]

Me surviving the odd crusher over head every now and then because I have two health curios.

[paper harbor]

You can survive crusher overhead with two health curio?

[hollow current]

I have two 21% and at full health I survive with single digit hp. I forgot the exact amount.

Very niche but it's happened a few times.

[paper harbor]

I never have 21% hp curio

[jovial juniper]

If Ogryn

[hollow current]

Yeah I just tested in the Psykanium and I'm getting pancaked lmao. But I distinctly remember at least two times I did eat a crusher overhead and survived at single digit health from full. I don't know how it happened now. I thought it was a health curio thing.

[harsh urchin]

Try it while flubbing a dodge

I think you get some amount of DR while in dodge state even if you fail to dodge it

[hollow current]

I tried it a few times and either I'm not doing it right or it's not a thing. Last time it happened feels like a month or two ago so maybe something was bugged and got ironed out since.

[potent echo]

truly a blessed game

[cinder moon]

aren’t bomber and flamer dam resist just for their kick?

[spice veldt]

it was fixed some time ago before patch 13 to affect their fire

[cinder moon]

good to know

[untold niche]

game is dying and they still want to list this as a feature they are working on...

[harsh urchin]

I think they're just fucked lol

[untold niche]

they kicked out their CEO, new CEO
Hope that the guy turns it around

[harsh urchin]

From what I'm reading the game is just fundamentally bad

I dont think the ceo has any say to that

[untold niche]

but those stuff can be changed
like the XP based solely off "quests" instead of mission completion

[harsh urchin]

From what i read it just doesnt hve replayability cuz it doesnt have the randomized gameplay

[untold niche]

yeaht ahts why they added the rotating security modifiers

in the pic

[harsh urchin]

That payday2 has

[untold niche]

i assume thats why

[harsh urchin]

Ye those might help but I'm not sure lol

Its like if darktide didnt have random hordes and specials and bosses

And everything was scripted

Like the mission end sequences

I think that would be extremely unfun

Hopefully they can turn it around

[untold niche]

didn't kjnow agbout that
botched game den

[harsh urchin]

But I'm not hopeful

[untold niche]

maybe new map come the spawns will be random?

idk

[harsh urchin]

Did u ever play payday2?

So the thing about it was that every game, the layout would change

So sometimes cameras would change places, security would patrol diff patterns, etc which affect stealth

Sometimes stairs disappear, sometimes a wall appears, which affects both loud and stealtg

So you can play the same mission a few times and it'd feel different

I didnt buy pd3

So i dont know how bad it is

But i heard that this was not done very well

[paper loom]

dont ask me what Hadron made me do for her , but my reward was this

[harsh urchin]

Nice

Too bad about the lowroll reload

But definitely a nice roll

[paper loom]

reroll dump stat tho right?

[harsh urchin]

Lol no way

[paper loom]

mobility is i take it then

im used to it had a similier revie but with lvl 3 surgical

[wind spruce]

I've been trying to use the revolver again for a couple of days now (haven't really touched it since pre patch 13)

It feels so bad 😦

[radiant frigate]

what even is infested

[wind spruce]

Having to reload each bullet is so gross

[radiant frigate]

dogs and poxwalkers?

is that all

[wind spruce]

And poxbursters

[radiant frigate]

wow

[wind spruce]

Pretty shite

[radiant frigate]

actual worthless stat

[wind spruce]

Yup

[wind spruce]

You're only 5.6% off max, it's not a big deal

[upper sun]

reload is kinda dumpy

74% is 3.77s and 64% is 3.89 thats not a big enough difference to justify trying to make another one

[harsh urchin]

Ive remade weapons for 3-5% dmg

I would remake a revolver for 3-5% reload speed

Especially considering how slow the actual reload is

Since it puts in one bullet at a time

[upper sun]

i would simply not use the weapon

[paper loom]

revolver is cool you two shot maulers

i have a sexy columnus too

[upper sun]

so can surge and it doesnt need a reload

[paper loom]

yea but you dont look like a bad ass using surge

[solar sand]

getting there

[upper sun]

not even close

[solar sand]

My vet is my original character from launch and I think I’m only like 130

[radiant frigate]

we play a bit of vet

[harsh urchin]

Too bad you rerolled 2nd blessing

Instead of weakspot

[radiant frigate]

we occasionally play zealot (fake)

[upper sun]

what was the other one?

[radiant frigate]

we most certainly do not play ogryn

[upper sun]

could have been stamina

i have 80 on ogryn and like 200 something on zealot

[radiant frigate]

but we do play psyker

[upper sun]

the secret is assassination missions

you can do one in 8 minutes

[harsh urchin]

He has dumdum locked

So i would've rolled both perks

[upper sun]

i wish this guy was a columnus it would have been so great 😢

[wind spruce]

That doesn't feel great though. Kill 2.5 maulers then reload for like 10 minutes

I'm just spoiled by voidstrike

[wind spruce]

Who cares lol, it's still good

Very good, even

[harsh urchin]

It's pretty aite cuz it only hits 2/3 of the good rolls

And you can get a 2/3 just by consecrating any base and crafting onto it

[upper sun]

aand how often do you get good bases?

[harsh urchin]

Usually between 100k and 500k depending on how demanding the base is

Ds4 for example is much easier to roll than a plasma

[upper sun]

took me a solid 2 weeks for one usable deimos

still doesnt one shot muties

[harsh urchin]

Ciag is not too bad since you can dump both ammo and mobi

Same with deimos cuz neither warp res and mobi are that important

[upper sun]

dam and first target both at 79%

[harsh urchin]

Sounds like you need an 80/80 kek

[wind spruce]

You're hardly ever going to be at 0% peril

[upper sun]

yeah i know but still

[wind spruce]

Yeah deimos is garbage

Not even sarcasm

I fucking hate it

[upper sun]

🤔

[wind spruce]

I just can't get around it haha

[upper sun]

i just want one with flak uncanny and executor 😭

[wind spruce]

Why flak

[upper sun]

because if it can one shot muties i dont want maniacs

[wind spruce]

That's only half an answer tbh

What about carapace or unyielding

[upper sun]

yeah unyielding/carap and flak

most likely unyielding

[wind spruce]

Is the flak for lights?

[upper sun]

ye

[wind spruce]

Fair

[plucky flax]

You never hit flak with melee as psyker.

Unless you're playing illisi.

[frozen loom]

swapped my maniacs on surge and DS4 to flak. Gonna try it out on a few runs

[radiant frigate]

illisi :)

[wind spruce]

This is absurdly incorrect.

[plucky flax]

I'm not meleeing scab ragers or maulers.

[wind spruce]

The primary reason to take flak on psyker melee is actually for bruisers and shooters

[plucky flax]

I'm certainly not meleeing shooters.

I only melee bruiser with illisi.

[cinder moon]

dueling sword poke stuns them

[wind spruce]

You play like three builds, though, let's be honest

[plucky flax]

All staves are good against scab ragers.

[wind spruce]

This is not relevant. Ragers usually turn up in groups, so single targets stuns are not part of the equation

Same with the force sword pushes and axe specials

[cinder moon]

just shriek at them

[silent socket]

Or don’t consent to being attacked by them

They HAVE to abide by the rules of consent

[cinder moon]

fr fr

no means no

[silent socket]

They get vac banned if you don’t consent

[potent echo]

i just had a run with so many ragers, surge cant really deal with mixed hordes + ragers.

but thats why i have EP assail

[frozen loom]

EP assail

[upper sun]

yeah maniacs are harder with other classes staves pop them pretty quickly

took me a while to realize i had to block the full rager combo on zealot before attacking

[wind spruce]

The clown keystone

[radiant frigate]

rager waves are actually terrifying as vet with axe

can't exactly trade hits and can't block their combo either because there is a ton of them

no voc = dead

meanwhile power sword laughs at them

and so does illisi (my beloved)

[halcyon gust]

Rager balls you either have a way of dealing with them or becoming chunky salsa if you don't have a teammate backing you up

[radiant frigate]

power sword vet just slices them up

zealot does.. things, i guess

[frozen loom]

I should retry using my illisi. Might work for ninja balls of ragers/maulers better

[upper sun]

zealot either ninja stabs everything with a knife or blocks everything forever

oh good god

[ivory path]

Gatekeep, gaslight, gunk(er)blast

[upper sun]

nice

[rigid sky]

Tbh for me zealot usually just shoots them in the face with a zarona

[ivory path]

Now to just pray i get matched with some vets running the ammo perk

[radiant frigate]

yes yes yes

bleed them dry

but how is it 379 with four 80s and one 60

[upper sun]

i have no idea! but i would guess the jump from from 70 to 80 is more significant than a jump from 40-50

[onyx sentinel]

standing at spawn of a maelstrom mission for 15 minutes with 0 joins I can't

daed game

[harsh urchin]

This will happen if you join a mael right when the mission is about to expire on the board

Since it will only add people who specifically queue for mael and never QP

[halcyon gust]

"Not the chainsword"
"OH YES THE CHAIN SWORD"

[worn beacon]

It's mk 13 too 😭

[radiant frigate]

that doesn't make sense though, as the base rating is the total of all the % added up

[bronze hound]

What are the most popular staves atm? I have seen a lot of trauma, a few void and purgatus and almost no surges

I am playing my psyker again and surge is still my favourite. Ofc is not as broken as it was when the talent rework and that bug, but I think it still works decently

[radiant frigate]

surge is still good

[upper sun]

i have no idea then if we assume it just rounded up then at least one would have to be 79

[potent echo]

there are various playstyles with each staff but surge builds need something else to do the heavy carrying vs mixed hordes

[dim parrot]

guys zealot is way too fun I dont think I will comeback anytime soon

[radiant frigate]

good luck

[hollow current]

[rigid sky]

All 4 are good and popular

Guns also good

[upper sun]

i feel you

zipping around the map being almost unkillable makes collecting plasteel so much easier

this bad boy can eat so much plasteel

[dim parrot]

just going in with melee is way more fun, dont get me wrong, psyker melee is also good af (illisi my beloved) but with zealot it kinda feels like u were made for going in and killing everything

[upper sun]

my zealot isnt made for anything i contribute far less than if i was playing psyker

but im 10x less likely to go down

[dim parrot]

I contribute by killing shit

same as psyker

but better

[upper sun]

and i can run around solo at mach 10 and hoover up plasteel

[radiant frigate]

really

i feel the exact opposite

[bronze hound]

My main is zealot and it's idd almost unkillable, a clutch machine, but as psyker the games are usually more... tense, which is often more fun if you succeed or if the game was mostly good in general.

[dim parrot]

ignoring assail

[upper sun]

i wish i had a scoreboard so i actually know how much im doing

[bronze hound]

you have a mod for that

[upper sun]

cant use mods

[radiant frigate]

also ignoring assail

[radiant frigate]

are you console-bound

[upper sun]

i am streaming bound at least for this year

[radiant frigate]

wha

[upper sun]

on the cloud

[upper sun]

🤔

SO

you get like 2k xp for losing a maelstrom after about 2 checkpoints or something like that

with a knife zealot you can get there in about 2 minutes

a regular t2 mission gives 2k xp

fuck i cracked the code for levelling

im so gonna finish my 5th char

[static needle]

Its actually very good with brainburst depending on the ranged weapon youre running. Nice build harmony

[lofty sluice]

yo siblings

[rigid sky]

Yeah, EP brain rupture is definitely legit

But I agree that EP Assail is a waste

You get better assails off Disrupt Destiny

On top of better everything else

But I do so love EP rupture

[tired estuary]

Can't spell EP assail without EP ass

(Yeah EP rupture is okay)

[rich spindle]

EP shriek rupture is sadly worse than warp siphon shriek rupture I think

The no peril cost seems mostly meaningless

[jovial juniper]

3 ruptures vs 5 vs 8

Considering that you're not chaining because of multiple elites

Because if you are, that 0 peril cost is going to shine

[rich spindle]

In my experience you can just rupture normally to 100 and then quell for a very short amount of time and rupture to 100 again

Amd staying at this high peril is favorable for dmg reduction

[frozen loom]

can't you staff to 100 then do ERuptures?

[jovial juniper]

I think you can rapture at 93%

[rich spindle]

I wouldnt trust myself to see the icon indicating i have an ep charge in the heat of combat, personally

[frozen loom]

objection sustained

[rich spindle]

It definitely is a dps increase, but i think VS cooldown is just way more dps overall

[frozen loom]

my case for ERupture is really chaining it, but I don't trust myself to keep properly targeting the correct targets

[rich spindle]

Yes that is my main problem too

[frozen loom]

i can definitely see myself rupturing a mook, then accidentally blowing myself up

[rich spindle]

In a dense mixed horde it is difficult to hit the elites

But you can chain snipe dispersed gunner packs in cover maybe twice as fast

I think of they gave EP burst a small explosion with a bit of stagger, it would be equal to warp siphon

[jovial juniper]

I think it's good the way it is

And if enemies get too close you can just shriek them off

Even if the stacks of blaze are bad at 0 peril

[radiant frigate]

i want to say EP is better than warp siphon purely because it does not require 33% of your talent points

but rather, 10%

[rich spindle]

Good point

[untold niche]

after 2 checkpoints, is before or after midway elevator?

[upper sun]

the ammo mission where you had to use a data interrogator to unlock the door

before data interrogator

[untold niche]

ammo mission

the plane?

[upper sun]

yeah

5 crates of ammo

[untold niche]

plane need use data inter to open door?
man can't rmb.

Open the Big vault?

View is out of second floor window, right under you- is medicae, to the right is the big vault door you open with inter,
front and below is the inter, shaded area is a "hole" fenced/

[upper sun]

yeah like the first 1 minute of the mission

i pretty much try to run as long as i can until the location pop up

[coral hare]

hey guys, I was wondering what is the meta right now for psyker ?

[upper sun]

staves or gunker

if you use a staff thats single target then a melee thats better at clear if its something like truama or purge then something with better single target like duelling sword or deimos

[vernal turret]

brain burst needs a buff

[radiant frigate]

brain burst is fine

[coral hare]

What is the best staff for push force ? Trying to do that penance where you need to push 7 enemies off a ledge

[radiant frigate]

what's that, exactly

[coral hare]

I mean, is there even such a staff that gives venting shriek a bigger push ?

[untold niche]

Does anyone have that emote where the yellow man is just pulling his eyes

out of desperation and depravityh

like this but is the emoji man

[thick sequoia]

Brain Burst needs a normal faster casting time..its too slow ..besides relying on the stim plus the two shields to cast faster

[jovial juniper]

1- you can pre charge it
2- that's kinetic resonance (blitz modifier), you proc it after using your combat ability
3- they should do something about it resetting if your target dies before it goes off

[rigid sky]

It's fast enough imo. If you don't have modifiers on it it's basically an emergency weapon

It's totally free apart from the cast time

And it deals with all the annoying enemy types

Kinetic Resonance is reachable by almost any build (I only have to skip it on my warp siphon purgatus)

And if you do use EP on it it's main weapon competitive

I have Trauma games where the Brain Rupture feels like my primary weapon

And it feels good at it

[torpid girder]

Does anyone know the scoreboard mod that tracks things like soulblaze damage individually?

[rich jolt]

A small one

I heard a good idea pitched a while back to make it so you dont need a full charge for weaker enemies

Like walkers and stuff charge it a little to activate and it still kills

I think thats a good idea

[cosmic sigil]

odenproof plugin

[frozen loom]

I'd recommend just doing damnation runs with venting shriek and a normal melee push. Force sword/DS kinda works.

[paper loom]

Think my new revolver may well be sexiest one in DT

[halcyon gust]

That be a sexy Revolver

[radiant frigate]

very juicy

[halcyon gust]

Any Vet or Zealot would Kill to have that revolver

If only Reload speed and Mobility swapped, but that is such a minor nit pick

[cosmic sigil]

Maybe you could try with trauma but I think you'll have better success with shriek at the end of the water mission in the torrent

[radiant frigate]

coincidentally that is where i got the penance done

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah I agree. My BR EP build is one of my favorite now, it feels very good to fuck up a pack of crushers

[radiant frigate]

just saw a nice ledge and did it

[cosmic sigil]

Same lol

Such a perfect location

[rigid sky]

It's basically a plasma gun at that point

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah lol

You cannot just spam it stupidly

[radiant frigate]

strange how i can play both vet and psyker the same way

[rigid sky]

you kinda even can tbh so long as you quell down to 96%

[radiant frigate]

weapon spec / true aim

[cosmic sigil]

What I like the most is that it opens possibilities in terms of loadout

Want more armor DMG and a quickswap weapon, take a revolver. Want aoe? Take purga or trauma

As well as melee

I miss one thing from assail tho... It deals with shooters better than pubs

[ember solstice]

Half an Ogryn spotted

[halcyon gust]

WCGW

[ember solstice]

God the tunnel vision with randoms 😭

[halcyon gust]

[gilded ember]

does anyone have a solid trauma staff build for me

[halcyon gust]

Let me ask you a question sibling

How much do you like fire?

[gilded ember]

i mained the purgatus staff till now

so i do love fire, sibling

[halcyon gust]

You can do a Flame Trauma staff