Unless they are ungodly running further away.
#psyker-class
fathom totem
rigid sky
One grimoire = poxburster oneshot range
cinder moon
i love trying to give someone a stim/med pack/ammo crate and they keep running away
rigid sky
Which is miserable lmao
fathom totem
I don't mind 1 grim in a none high intens run.
cinder moon
regular runs can turn into low budget hi-int when the director feels like it
upper sun
yeah 1 grim is fine
tbh i dont even mind two grims as long as im not playering vet or psyker
rigid sky
Throne I hate the grimoire design though
upper sun
yeah me too 11k isnt worth throwing a run
upper sun
and its unfair to force a player to play 16 games or scream at people to pick them up for weeklies
rigid sky
I think they don't really expect us to take them since pre 13
zenith vigil
staffs doesn't share blessing right?
upper sun
nope
untold niche
i don't know why but my regular runs are consistently having one boss after another
upper sun
ive had normal runs with two back to back
halcyon gust
Low intensity
3 monster spawns over the course of the mission
near bobcat
3? Was it the train depot one?
hollow current
do a neat clutch
hit the capture key combo
instant replay has turned off
thanks nvidia
halcyon gust
3? Was it the train depot one?
No. It was Carnival
mighty cipher
>do a neat clutch
>hit the capture key combo
>instant replay has turned off
than...
The default turn off bind is ALT+SHIFT+F10. Guess what the default sprint bind is? Shift. If you're running and try to clip something you'll turn it off instead.
hollow current
Yeah. I just rebound that combo to something else.
mighty cipher
Wonderful
dusk void
Last night, I decided to do a monstrosity maelstrom with the high intensity lights out modifiers as my last run for the night and may I say, screw that crap. I kept messing up so bad, I had to be rescued 3 times in during the mission 😅. I haven’t played in a while
halcyon gust
Last night, I decided to do a monstrosity maelstrom with the high intensity ligh...
We all have our bad days siblings
One day we're kicking ass and showing those simpletons how it is done
The next day. We're blowing up our mind every chance we get
dusk void
Well, at least I killed 4 monstrosities in the maelstrom thanks to my chainsword 😊
upper sun
>do a neat clutch
>hit the capture key combo
>instant replay has turned off
than...
do a sick play
try to hit save instant replay
die
3 disablers
lose
halcyon gust
>do a neat clutch
>hit the capture key combo
>instant replay has turned off
than...
Go down due to a dumb mistake
Watch all 3 teammates attempt to save your ass instead of letting you die
One gets disabled by a trapper
Psyker climaxes in the name of the emperor
Final one gets sent off the map by a barrel
"YOU HAVE FAILED THE EMPEROR"
cinder moon
>do a neat clutch
>hit the capture key combo
>instant replay has turned off
than...
lmao i've done this too many times while sprinting in games without toggle sprint
radiant frigate
what does "refused to play with zealots" mean
halcyon gust
My guess. One too many bad experiences with a Zealot (Likely the bad Knife knife zealots and rush ahead and die as fast as they can run)
fathom totem
what does "refused to play with zealots" mean
From the beginning he started rambling about how zealots fucked up 4 of his games in a row. Because of rushing. Then processed to rush himself and die.
radiant frigate
From the beginning he started rambling about how zealots fucked up 4 of his game...
lol
foggy trout
what would you guys change
radiant frigate
what would you guys change
2 free perks
probably flak/maniac
rejoice, for you have been granted the divine illisi of smiting
maybe i should roll a few more illisis...
fathom totem
Yeah, flak/maniac and you got a very good Mk5.
fathom totem
Near perfect 
foggy trout
sometimes lucky 🥲
fathom totem
Perfect would be 80 on everything but mobility and 380 base.
hollow current
0% warp res
fathom totem
Or yeah 0% warp and full mobility.
I dunno your basically stationary when chopping up horde.
hollow current
It's more about getting to max peril for the full warp rider buff.
But that's not too hard anyways
near bobcat
That's a nice carapace can opener right there. Love me rending strikes.
jovial juniper
I dunno your basically stationary when chopping up horde.
Nothing that a screen sweep won't solve
near bobcat
>Go down due to a dumb mistake
>Watch all 3 teammates attempt to save your ass i...
Also a part of me thinks some folks are desperate to avoid a rage quitter leaving them with a bot lol
jovial juniper
It's more about getting to max peril for the full warp rider buff.
Max stack blaze shriek
near bobcat
Good players go down with dignity and wait to see if the survivors can clutch it!
fathom totem
Good players go down with dignity and wait to see if the survivors can clutch it...
And if they don't. Leave so bot give them anothe chance.
tired estuary
funny b/c I p much never mind when people d/c, usually better off without them
radiant frigate
siblings, unfortunately
brickus maximus
but hey at least i can add exorcist to my collection
jovial juniper
Have fun smacking heads repeatedly
radiant frigate
it's gone
upper sun
new crafting system will fix it Omnissiah willing
near bobcat
And if they don't. Leave so bot give them anothe chance.
Eugh, never liked that. I get why people do it but it's too cheat-y for my liking.
fathom totem
new crafting system will fix it Omnissiah willing
Oh praise the Omnissiah!
upper sun
Eugh, never liked that. I get why people do it but it's too cheat-y for my likin...
ive had some games saved by the bots
no shame i need my plasteel
radiant frigate
the clumsy illisi of power
upper sun
slaught 4.... the one that got away
radiant frigate
slaught 4.... the one that got away
sharp illisi of leg paralysis
radiant frigate
update? crafting improvements??
upper sun
yeah they said they were gonna reduce the rng in the crafting system
i'm collecting bases plasteel and money now
hollow current
damn . if only warp res dumped 😔
hollow current
lmao nice
hollow current
At least you get max dodges because it's a force sword.
radiant frigate
i am slow now though
or i could just continue using my old one
i mean they are practically the same
the paralysis blade has slightly more damage and a minor amount of overkill rending at max stacks
in exchange for, well, paralysis
i will keep it because it's funny
hollow current
oh yeah, use the old and maybe the new might be better if the supposed crafting update isn't total shit
stone canyon
hollow current
uncanny 3 is hardly worse than 4. It just means you need 1 more hit to hit max rending
stone canyon
Game now mocking me how it took me 40+ crafts of Trauma Staffs to get that Blazing Spirit
Melk casually offering it
radiant frigate
uncanny 3 is hardly worse than 4. It just means you need 1 more hit to hit max r...
Yes
hollow current
I'm suffering the same problem though. Trying to find a duelling sword basically the same maxed perks and blessings but precognition instead of slaughterer. While already basically having a godroll that's only weakness is uncanny 3, which again is hardly a weakness and more of annoyance.
stone canyon
Been using this since the day my Psyker hit lvl 30 and crafted Duelling
I only wish it was Shred instead of Rampage for more crit talent tree synergy
upper sun
its pretty good tho
hollow current
I swear rampage used to be busted.
upper sun
illisi is great
i swear to god hab dreyko is the real hidden auric
i quick played into this shit
rigid sky
I swear rampage used to be busted.
In general it is busted, it's power instead of damage
it's misworded
but I think it's a bit poop on a weapon with shit cleave like the DS4
dusk void
i swear to god hab dreyko is the real hidden auric
Nice, I wish I had zero deaths on my missions, but screw Hab Dreyko. That map is awful, even on the auric levels
upper sun
Nice, I wish I had zero deaths on my missions, but screw Hab Dreyko. That map is...
man i did nothing the entire game
rich spindle
Hab dreyko finale is a hard teamwork / communication check
rigid sky
Nice, I wish I had zero deaths on my missions, but screw Hab Dreyko. That map is...
I love it, but I go into it without the expectation of winning lmao
hollow current
I feel like it used to be even worse at one point. I swear it effectively doubled damage at one point and now it seems way more in line.
upper sun
those people killed everything and never used a single healing item/station
hollow current
FS has to drop a mode where there's no healing stations or rescues at some point.
upper sun
yeah its said that there arent many modifiers
radiant frigate
hey you finally got uncanny 4
true enough
rich spindle
I want chaos wastes mode :)
upper sun
i want the tox ogryn that got leaked a year ago
zealous pewter
call me crazy but do you guys think instadeath for going over 100% on perils is too punishing?
rich spindle
Its not instadeath
zealous pewter
it just doesn't really have a corollary to any other part of the game, and i'm not gonna say plasma gun counts
zealous pewter
Its not instadeath
everyone knows what i mean
rich spindle
The fact that theres an animation makes it much easier to save with vs
Ive done it many times
upper sun
its perfectly fine you feel so bad about a missplay that someone from your team has to give you a pep talk
frozen loom
I as a newbie cannot let go of venting shriek just for those small misplays and lag perils
zealous pewter
in terms of gameplay it's basically like if veteran had to stop firing before his last round is fired or he just dies
upper sun
we dont have to use ammo so the risk of death is worth it
rich spindle
Yeah
upper sun
I as a newbie cannot let go of venting shriek just for those small misplays and ...
vent is till a great stagger and creeping flames are nice
zealous pewter
i don't think so personally, i dont think ammo is that much of a problem for other classes
like as vet i don't ever run out of ammo
and i'm not trying to be cautious about it
upper sun
i still use shriek on everything that isnt purge or truama
zealous pewter
i just don't like shriek because it doesnt really feel like it does very much
upper sun
like as vet i don't ever run out of ammo
ammo isnt a problem until it is
zealous pewter
it does solve the problem completely though, which kind of makes the perils thing even dumber
rich spindle
Shriek is great for knocking dogs off people through walls, deleting entire hordes if you line it up right, staggerinng crushers in your face...
cold yacht
i just don't like shriek because it doesnt really feel like it does very much
Doesn’t shreik remove peril?
upper sun
it can still be on cooldown or you can have another ability
zealous pewter
i'd settle for losing all of your toughness and being slowed by 75% and being unable to cast for 5 seconds
upper sun
nah i want someone from FS to come to my place and execute me if i die from peril
zealous pewter
but self-downing for resource mismanagement feels like just bad game design
yeah i don't do it often but when i do i just quit out right away
rich spindle
Lol
rigid sky
i just don't like shriek because it doesnt really feel like it does very much
Creeping Flames my dude
zealous pewter
if i die from perils i'm not playing well enough to be in the mission
rigid sky
I think it's the strongest Psyker ability by far tbh
upper sun
i mostly get downed from surge
crude vortex
Venting shriek is perfect if you're still getting used to peril management and need an emergency vent
upper sun
its too easy to get in the zap zone
zealous pewter
i mostly get downed from surge
same, and surge is my main staff. i have a perfect 550
rich spindle
If you 6+ soulblaze shriek at a horde you can just turn away and ignore them
zealous pewter
never self downed from purgatus or void
rigid sky
I don't really use shriek to save myself
once you've played for a while without it, you no longer need it. It's like safety wheels
BUT, for some weapons I use, the 6 stack soulblaze and knockdown is just the best ability anyway
crude vortex
Yeee
rigid sky
It works crazy good with warp siphon
and I find that voidstrike uses it really well too despite not running warp siphon on it personally
If you use warp siphon you should be using venting shriek imo
rigid sky
The skill is often actually managing to spike your peril every time your ability comes up
still hearth
And I die all the time
rich spindle
Warp siphon on dog waves is soooo good
still hearth
It's a secret debuff
rigid sky
I just have it set based on my ranged
3 of my psyker builds use shriek
trauma uses bubble, and CIAG uses gaze
that's just me
rich spindle
Shriek insta recharges
zealous pewter
i dunno i just don't like how psyker has what feels like such an obvious design flaw in terms of gameplay feel, when like vet is so easy mode and just plays itself
rigid sky
Tbh it depends on the vet build
still hearth
Right now Ogryn is the real easy mode
rigid sky
VoC power sword plasma is trivial yeah
crude vortex
Psyker ain't for everyone and that's okay. I think peril management is the biggest hurdle from what I've seen
rich spindle
Its not a design flaw its a downside you can easily play around
rigid sky
but you can do some silly exec stance/marksmans focus builds
zealous pewter
VoC power sword plasma is trivial yeah
this is my build and it makes everything very very easy
rich spindle
Nerf plasma 😩
rigid sky
it's way more fun for me lmao
zealous pewter
to be clear i actually do think surge psyker is almost up there with vet in terms of how good it is, but you do have to actually pay attention to the game a little bit even if you don't have to aim at all
rigid sky
The other issue with psyker is being extremely frail
You live on toughness regeneration
rigid sky
if enemies actually close in melee and land hits you're in trouble
Surge is good now
I still think it's the weakest staff though
still hearth
I mean it was good when I left
zealous pewter
Did they buff Surge or something while I was gone
it is good but i don't even think it's the best, i just have the most xp with it
rigid sky
also tickles a second target
still hearth
Not good enough to compete with the AoE stuff though
rigid sky
but it's mostly just for eliminating elites/specials
still hearth
Trauma supremacy 
zealous pewter
surge deletes elites but also it cleans up ranged trash like nothing else, which is its real utility imo
zealous pewter
you can just rapid fire clear little soldier guys like crazy with surge
and the fact that you are firing it with 100% uptime since you never have to aim at anything, you just constantly pop shots off and you're hitting regardless
still hearth
It was the biggest reason I used Surge when they made it good
No skill required
Just point and they die
zealous pewter
the skill with surge stops being with aiming and more becomes instinctively pre firing it at stuff you can't even see it
zealous pewter
also literally just swiveling in between charge shots to see what's going on around you
since youve got nothing better to do
upper sun
ah i see you're also a 360 no aim surge enjoyer as well
zealous pewter
ah, another man of taste
rigid sky
The purgatus is the zero-skill weapon of choice for me :)
I have to back it up with the worst version of brain rupture though
no warp resonance even lol
zealous pewter
purgatus you do have to be aware of your positioning in a big way though since you become a turret
rigid sky
because the idea is I only take the build if I feel absolutely sure that the team will have the long range threats covered
zealous pewter
and be aware of your effective range
rigid sky
so I can keep the staff out any time there's anything near
Effective range is pretty long if you have shriek :D
also know when not to purgatus
sometimes you gotta pull your other shit out
but I love the LMB techs you can do
stagger ragers
zealous pewter
i like brain burst w/ purgatus
rigid sky
kill poxbursters
zealous pewter
does a good job of helping round you out
rigid sky
it is the natural pair for it
but my build is so point starved
because of fucking warp siphon
expensive bloated shit
I already can't take kinetic deflection
and I feel that in my soul
zealous pewter
i love kinetic deflection
you can just tank a daemon host with it if one gets on you somehow, though that's less of a problem since the update
upper sun
because of fucking warp siphon
I feel you
i drop the last node on warp sometimes
tbh fuck it why not go keystoneless on purge whos gonna stop me
zealous pewter
they gotta rework empowered psionics
cold yacht
What’s wrong with it?
zealous pewter
the blitzes, at least brain rupture and smite don't get much from it
you're not really doing anything interesting as a result of it
upper sun
just remove essence harvest and merge the next not with the keystone
its so stupid every other class feels like it has 2-4 extra points for whatever you like
zealous pewter
smite doesn't do any damage, so doubling it is basically double nothing
and brain rupture doesnt hit any important breakpoints i dont think from it
cold yacht
As someone who built an empowered smite build I can say smite having double damage does great things on hordes
zealous pewter
smite isn't really for hordes though
upper sun
so can a staff or a sword
zealous pewter
and i dont think empowered smite kills a poxwalker
does it?
even if it does, it takes a long time to do it either way
cold yacht
Smite stuns the horde and kills off the smaller guys leaving the big guys stunned for your allies
upper sun
I feel like the devs want us to only play gunker
our movement speed/stamina is gimpped in case you take scriers so it doesnt get stupid with it
zealous pewter
i mean if those big guys are like a huge wave of ragers or a crusher swarm that's fine, but there's almost nothing more annoying than a psyker just straight up shooting smite into poxwalkers
with no elites in them
frozen loom
even if it does, it takes a long time to do it either way
tried it on meatgrinder. it takes a second or so?
zealous pewter
our movement speed/stamina is gimpped in case you take scriers so it doesnt get ...
i like gun psyker but it's kind of like a squishier more ammo hungry vet with less versatility
it has more top end DPS than vet though im pretty sure
cold yacht
i like gun psyker but it's kind of like a squishier more ammo hungry vet with le...
So a useless psyker
cold yacht
I prefer being a support psyker
Smite when built with peril generation in mind can keep massive hordes from overwhelming the group
zealous pewter
sure yeah i mean i use smite on my surge psyker, it's basically a pocket stun grenade
it's a great ability for basically any melee elite swarm
i just dont see much benefit from buffing it since it can't kill anything important
it's not like people have a problem killing hordes
cold yacht
It doesn’t need to kill anything important thats what your teammates are for
frozen loom
i'd gladly replace it with increased spread or decreased peril gen
zealous pewter
like on vet it's just really annoying when people freeze the poxers in place thinking they're helping but they're really just slowing us down
frozen loom
I personally feel like empowered assail sucks
zealous pewter
now they're not grouped up and i can't cleave 25 at once with my power sword
cold yacht
If it’s a tiny group sure it’s not worth smiting but if it’s filled with elites and specialist then smite away
Especially if it has maulers in the mix
zealous pewter
If it’s a tiny group sure it’s not worth smiting but if it’s filled with elites ...
yeah totally agreed
if there's enough melee elites in there to cause a real threat then it can save your team
my pet peeve is just when people do it for like, two shotgunners in there or something
like brother your surge staff kills them in two shots
frozen loom
Q: what's the consensus perks/blessings setup for purgatus? and roughly, what's the dump stat?
zealous pewter
i dont know about consensus but damage is the dump stat for most weapons
i think it is here too
cold yacht
No clue don’t use much outside of blitz and sword
fathom totem
Q: what's the consensus perks/blessings setup for purgatus? and roughly, what's ...
Not sure what meta is. But I run nexus / flurry . Crit chance / unyielding.
zealous pewter
warp nexus and warp flurry for blessings
flak/maniac or flak/unarmored for me
i do see the point of crit/unyield though
cold yacht
Haven’t used assail since it got nerfed a few times so I’m gonna test it out with empowered psyonics see if it’s worth it
fathom totem
Flak and Maniac burn fast enough though. I just want to burn orgryns and monstrosities bit faster.
zealous pewter
i've basically never used assail but people still like it
it just sucks that it's on the right side of the tree
cold yacht
Fuck went to malice difficulty
fathom totem
I see some people run carapace. I tried that. Doesn't do jack shit vs cara. :p
Better off let the others handle crushers.
cinder moon
smite isn't really for hordes though
3EP smite + any source of soulblaze = dead hordes
zealous pewter
3EP smite + any source of soulblaze = dead hordes
i know you can kill hordes with it, i'm just saying that's a bad use of time
cinder moon
it's not specifically for killing hordes
it's for locking them down
killing them is a bonus
zealous pewter
so why are you buffing your damage then?
cold yacht
Ok assail got nerfed bad
cinder moon
because you can't always count on teammates to be in a position to deal with the horde you're currently locking down
cold yacht
Well not that bad
zealous pewter
but it can't kill anything except for like poxwalkers
cinder moon
factually untrue
cold yacht
Just takes a while to regenerate them
zealous pewter
dogs yeah
cinder moon
it reasonably deals with most specials and some elites
frozen loom
currently running DS4/Illisi - Surge - Assail shriek warp. I like Assail for some long range "snipes" and general wave clear without having to go melee just yet
cinder moon
if you can keep shrieking while smiting it becomes stronger
that said, i wish EP slowed down peril gen for smite
errant pawn
currently running DS4/Illisi - Surge - Assail shriek warp. I like Assail for som...
I have basically the same setup except I use a trauma staff too. I like using assail for both those snipes and for stun capabilities on all kinds of elites. Also it’s just really satisfying to be able to clear hordes of shotgunners like theyre dregs
rigid sky
Disrupt Destiny same thing but better
EP is so underwhelming with Assail
I literally only EP if I'm using brain rupture and not using warp siphon
Uh
Not using Venting shriek
Sorry I'm a little buzzed
frozen loom
I should use vent more. I tend to save it for bad spots bc I like having 6 warp charges
rigid sky
The damage from it is crazy
frozen loom
the soulblaze/ peril damage?
halcyon gust
I should use vent more. I tend to save it for bad spots bc I like having 6 warp ...
Warp charges are easy to regain depending on your build
So it is just better to spend those charges and rebuild them back up
radiant frigate
i hate warp charges
rigid sky
The main draw of warp charges is just to be able to Shriek more
The damage is secondary
If it's raw damage you want take Disrupt Destiny
cinder moon
can't stand DD highlighting random shit
rigid sky
You gotta have a good precision weapon for DD to both pay off and be usable
Voidstrike or gun are good, idk about surge
Shit for other staffs
cinder moon
would rather just have flat damage bonus from WC so i can deal with the threats i deem necessary
rigid sky
It's only one every 30s
cinder moon
DD be like "here's a random poxwalker i've marked for you"
also the range limit on DD
WC buffs your damage at any range
radiant frigate
SG voidstrike, wish me luck
frozen loom
you also don't gain DD stack if your party member kills it instead no?
radiant frigate
DD be like "here's a random poxwalker i've marked for you"
i wish it did that
cinder moon
when i tried using it, it highlighted useless targets 90% of the time
actually frustrating
radiant frigate
i run into the issue of no targets being highlighted sometimes
because no eligible targets exist
rigid sky
With Assail they die in one action anyway
Or with CIAG or Voidstrike if I wanna guarantee it
You just treat it as a minigame
It's another plate to juggle but the damage boost from it is enormous
It's gotta be awkward to be balanced
But that little indirect side game can feel like weird gameplay though and not so satisfying
It works for me though
I hated it at first but it grew on me
cinder moon
idc how powerful something is if there's no guarantee i can make use of it when it's really necessary
rigid sky
Always take the 30 second variant and only take it if your weapon works well with it
cinder moon
at least with WC decaying over time, you're only at a disadvantage if you didn't have literally anything to kill for X amount of time
rigid sky
The 15 second variant is actually lunacy
cinder moon
but you still have to be within 25m of an enemy for them to be marked
which is garbanzo beans
and if you go with 30s DD, you will only ever cap out at 15-17% extra damage
assuming you can even maintain max stacks
it's an absurd amount of work and is too situational
basically end up with a skill crawlspace because the skill ceiling is practically adjacent to the skill floor
upper sun
judge blames a psyker for shooting tamemates if you have one in the team
jovial juniper
They also tell you it's not their fault if no psyker
radiant frigate
>judge blames a psyker for shooting tamemates if you have one in the team
blames a psyker even if there is no psyker
anyway i do not think i am a fan of SG voidstrike
cinder moon
SG?
little sapphire
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jovial juniper
Surge staff is better suited, fast charge, doesn't lock you in lengthy animation
Which means you can quell and buy yourself more time
radiant frigate
Surge staff is better suited, fast charge, doesn't lock you in lengthy animation
better suited for what?
jovial juniper
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upper sun
@rigid skyh-hes perfect
radiant frigate
surge staff with scrier's is explosion bait
rigid sky
Terrible perk and blessing but dat body
upper sun
no the blessing is perfect
rigid sky
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It's a sometimes food
jovial juniper
surge staff with scrier's is explosion bait
Sure, I'll keep running it
upper sun
like i said getting barrage as a first blessing means it wont be a second blessing
radiant frigate
true enough
upper sun
i mean i do have dumdum 4
rigid sky
I mean natively on the weapon
it's one lock you don't have to do
until they do whatever they're gonna do to them
main wyvern
guys which is the good dueling sword? i just bought this
jovial juniper
surge staff with scrier's is explosion bait
skill issue
upper sun
im snaging it anyways
jovial juniper
Sorry, had to
rigid sky
guys which is the good dueling sword? i just bought this
ding ding
that's the one
good luck with hadron
upper sun
guys which is the good dueling sword? i just bought this
i hate you delete this but good luck
crude vortex
ding dong
jovial juniper
Stab stab
rigid sky
yeah, if it's a brunt blue then go go go go go
rigid sky
gonna consecrate into 8% damage to poxwalkers
Sending uncanny vibes
and also carapace thoughts
upper sun
actually maybe save it for 7 months until they update the crafting
main wyvern
i don't think i will use the dueling sword anyway
how can i be a psyker and not use a force sword
crude vortex
Hadron please give this varlet a befitting blessing for this weapon so they may bring more materials to you...
upper sun
yeah uncanny+shred/rampage carap maniac?
rigid sky
I don't like shred on it
radiant frigate
i also do not like shred on it
radiant frigate
(i also do not like it)
jovial juniper
Yo, they should add a duelsword that stab as light attacks
upper sun
Oh Emperor of gaslighting and girlbossing please give our sibling uncanny 4 and whatever perk works for DS4
rigid sky
The dodge blessings get better the better you are, too
the one with the longer duration is basically a static uptime buff
radiant frigate
i guess i would go with rampage
main wyvern
rigid sky
the shorter one is a bit finnicky but really powerful
Idk about rampage though, I mean most of the time you use duelling sword to fuck up one guy in particular
jovial juniper
Right!?!?
rigid sky
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
well I mean fuck you might as well just go shred rampage on it
jovial juniper
Such a weird blessing
rigid sky
uh
not "fuck you"
I mean "well, I mean, fuck, you might as well..." etc
sorry lack of commas lmao
radiant frigate
punctuation, everyone
upper sun
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
see you after the update
main wyvern
what's the update
radiant frigate
"let's eat grandpa" vs "let's eat, grandpa"
rigid sky
actually wait this is psyker chat we're meant to be angry and argumentative here
cold yacht
punctuation, everyone
No punctuation is for the weak and those without ADHD
rigid sky
RAAAAAAAAAAR
upper sun
what's the update
less rng in crafting and less grind but prolly its like 5 months away
rigid sky
GUN PSYKER IS ONLY REAL PSYKER
cold yacht
GUN PSYKER IS ONLY REAL PSYKER
Useless psyker
upper sun
Useless psyker
NUH UHHHHH
rigid sky
IF YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN 30 STACKS OF DISRUPT DESTINY YOU'RE BAAAAAAAAAAD
radiant frigate
um actually my way is the only correct way of playing psyker and everything else is wrong
cold yacht
Go play vet
crude vortex
gunking it up
radiant frigate
sorry i don't make the rules
upper sun
um actually my way is the only correct way of playing psyker and everything else...
so tru
upper sun
Go play vet
vet is the only class i finished twins with (i play zealot and psyker)
rigid sky
REAL PSYKERS USE SHOVEL AND RUMBLER
cold yacht
um actually my way is the only correct way of playing psyker and everything else...
Exactly if you don’t have the exact same build down to even the weapon blessings then your playing the character wrong
crude vortex
i play psyker like how I live my life: i try to make people explode with my mind and scream really hard until they catch fire
upper sun
FATSHARK GIVE ME FORCE SHOVELS
crude vortex
force club
radiant frigate
Exactly if you don’t have the exact same build down to even the weapon blessings...
also you need to have the same hairstyle
upper sun
FORCE POWER CHAIN SHOVELS
cold yacht
also you need to have the same hairstyle
And voice
crude vortex
also you need to have the same hairstyle
which style is that
rigid sky
You need to be the correct height obviously
jovial juniper
AAAAAA A, see, everyone can scream
crude vortex
You need to be the correct height obviously
which height is that
radiant frigate
which style is that
the correct one
rigid sky
AAAAAAAAAA
everybody gains 6 stacks of soulblaze
cold yacht
which height is that
The correct one : )
upper sun
EMPEROR PLEASE PLEASE
radiant frigate
which height is that
also the correct one
crude vortex
😓
cold yacht
Moving on ep assail is garbage what should I swap in?
radiant frigate
dd and not using your blitz
cold yacht
Blitz makes psyker interesting
radiant frigate
or only using it in edge cases
jovial juniper
Ep bb
cold yacht
Smite disagrees
radiant frigate
smite is the most edge case blitz
upper sun
smite is either game saving or GUYS PLEASE KILL THIS GUY FOR ME
cold yacht
I feel your not giving smite its due or forgetting the fact it has a charge up variant
upper sun
nah it can be great
radiant frigate
no I'm talking about the charge variant
upper sun
but your staff can kill stuff
rigid sky
Yeah
radiant frigate
it's good for building peril fast for shriek
upper sun
why stun when you can kill
cold yacht
What is with you psykers and killing heretics
upper sun
uhhhh sibling dont say such things
rigid sky
Got a 380 and hate it
cold yacht
Supporting your allies so they don’t get fucked by mauler heretics is far better
radiant frigate
look i can't slice them up it I'm stuck concentrating on smite
upper sun
if things are dead they can not kill people
radiant frigate
you know what stops mauler heretics from fucking your teammates?
rigid sky
Supporting your allies so they don’t get fucked by mauler heretics is far better
I do all in different games lol
rigid sky
Psyker is all about what kind of enemies you wanna fuck up
Normally you excel in some circumstances and have weaknesses (but not total lacks) in other areas
cold yacht
Death
Unfortunately for you I get the brain dead teammates most of the time so I get to either watch them bumble into a mauler and getting 2 shot or trying to attack a rager head on and getting hit by the 7 other enemies on their flanks
rigid sky
Psyker specialises more than anybody, besides some of the more extreme zealot builds like crucis
radiant frigate
not unfortunate for me actually
upper sun
Unfortunately for you I get the brain dead teammates most of the time so I get t...
in that case killing the mauler is far better than stunning it
radiant frigate
^
rigid sky
Unfortunately for you I get the brain dead teammates most of the time so I get t...
Voidstrike says what enemies
cold yacht
I’m not fast enough to kill them before my allies run into them hence why I use smite
upper sun
if you strictly wanna play smite and you trust your team thats perfectly fine
cinder moon
surge+smite for covering most bases
jovial juniper
What's with the mentality that the other players won't be up to your standards and that you have to do everything
upper sun
some cases you get insanely good people but if they are that good stunning wont help them as much
rigid sky
I think the community as a whole underrates it
cold yacht
I’m talking stealth vet running at them with a knife and light attacking
radiant frigate
i do not trust anyone to do anything so smite just feels like a pause button
cinder moon
What's with the mentality that the other players won't be up to your standards a...
because in pugs it's true 80% of the time
upper sun
like in this case
rigid sky
Although a lot of individual players overrate it
upper sun
my team was so good i legit did nothing
radiant frigate
What's with the mentality that the other players won't be up to your standards a...
well it's mostly correct
rigid sky
i do not trust anyone to do anything so smite just feels like a pause button
While you are paused, Shriek is cooling down
upper sun
even if i was playing smite psyker i would not have done any better
jovial juniper
because in pugs it's true 80% of the time
Then it's a region problem lmao
rigid sky
And more enemies are gathering in your blast zone
radiant frigate
ooor i could just slice heretics
rigid sky
Smite is mostly relative with that combo
True, you can
You can also Shriek and then Surge the elites mixed in
cold yacht
Smite has a massive range if you upgrade it properly
rigid sky
Again I literally only consider Smite as a combo pick
The stun part is decent but you give up a lot for it
upper sun
great you can stun things further away
radiant frigate
do you use smite as your main weapon or something
rigid sky
The combo is what pushes it to being not bad
cold yacht
Give me a sec to head back to my computer I’ll send a picture of my talents
rigid sky
If you use shield then don't bother lol
cold yacht
Then you’ll see just how smite dependent my build is
radiant frigate
smite shield 💀
radiant frigate
potentially not a good build then
upper sun
i think i only do shield with purge and truama
cinder moon
smite+surge is great fun
upper sun
sorry purge aaaaaaa
rigid sky
Shield is great with EP Brainburst
radiant frigate
what's it going to be, devil's claw and purgatus smite?
rigid sky
Make a bunker and kill all the gunners and snipers
cold yacht
Right I closed the game give me a few minutes to open it back up
radiant frigate
4 BUBBLE TEAM COMP all warp siphon all with 12% cdr
vs mostly ranged cdr maelstrom
cold yacht
Warp siphon smite with shriek if I recall
radiant frigate
everybody gangsta until a singular crusher shows up
cold yacht
And all the -5% peril generation I could grab
radiant frigate
now i am really curious
cold yacht
It’s probably not optimized or optimal but I use smite almost like a primary weapon from how low my peril generation is
wind spruce
Make a bunker and kill all the gunners and snipers
But you can just do this without the bunker?
rigid sky
You can
radiant frigate
but bunker funny
rigid sky
It's not a necessity, nothing really is
wind spruce
but bunker funny
I'll accept that
rigid sky
sometimes it feels like it helps a bunch
cinder moon
i hot dropped into this game like 10 seconds before the clip starts https://streamable.com/yw70rh
cold yacht
I guarantee it’s gonna look like a unoptimized mess to the more experienced player
wind spruce
It's not a necessity, nothing really is
It's about relative necessity. Brain burst just requires you to lock on, so bubble is close to least necessary with it
rigid sky
We've argued about this in the past anyway lmao
wind spruce
Haha true
cold yacht
I’ve never used brain burst outside of low levels
rigid sky
Sometimes something just works better for you. And I very rarely use shield honestly
radiant frigate
do it again, i wanna watch
rigid sky
It just helps my trauma more than shriek was before
But it's probably partly a playstyle thing
it covers my deficits better
wind spruce
BB bubble is just like next level weird to me tho, since it's one of the least static weapons. Trauma makes much more sense
rigid sky
Yeah, the BR is mostly a support for the trauma
radiant frigate
shield helps me heal from my trauma 😊
cold yacht
Alright it’s 3 pictures
wind spruce
shield helps me heal from my trauma 😊
If only
rigid sky
Everything synergises with other bits of the kit, it's probably my strongest psyker build in terms of winrate
but I think if I played perfectly my gunker or my void would be my best
radiant frigate
is it blaze trauma funtimes
rigid sky
hell yeah
cold yacht
Pics incoming
radiant frigate
exciting
rigid sky
Brittleness feels unnecessary to me tbh
radiant frigate
i used blaze rending trauma once
rigid sky
like starting a hob with a broken spark thing
radiant frigate
idk how much the brittleness even did tbh
rigid sky
clickclickclickclickclickclickclick
cold yacht
heres my build have fun tearing it to shreds
rigid sky
clickclickclickclickclick_fwoom_
please take creeping flames instead of warp rupture
it's a lot more damage
rigid sky
It'll kill gunners at 30 metres
radiant frigate
concerningly low toughness
rigid sky
Psychinetic's Aura is also amazing btw
take that instead of mind in motion
coming out of smite
radiant frigate
unlucky for some is also mostly pointless
rigid sky
also I'd take essence harvest over inner tranquility
since you want to be able to spike your peril up on demand for shriek
Seriously shriek is a damage bomb
essence harvest is really good too
cold yacht
Its all about removing peril
rigid sky
Mind in motion doesn't really help you with that
radiant frigate
no perilous combustion either
rigid sky
you can dodge with it
cold yacht
So I can use smite for as long as I want
rigid sky
getting psychinetic's aura will help your shriek recharge
and shriek is also a peril down and a big damage bomb
radiant frigate
do you not have other weapons
rigid sky
plus r key is there for a reason
radiant frigate
genuine question
cold yacht
I do I have a trauma staff and a deimos sword
rigid sky
btw are the modifier nodes for smite generally considered worth it or not?
I'm trying to tweak my surge build
radiant frigate
with trauma you most definitely do not need smite
rigid sky
and is EP generally considered worth it for smite?
cinder moon
btw are the modifier nodes for smite generally considered worth it or not?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b88aab3-1ace-484a-a1ae-63b4c89f1ac9/unlimited-power-3 try my build
cold yacht
btw are the modifier nodes for smite generally considered worth it or not?
Yes if your actually going to be using smite frequently
jovial juniper
btw are the modifier nodes for smite generally considered worth it or not?
The extra damage might not be worth it
cold yacht
Enfeeble is a good one even if you don’t wanna take lighting storm
Alright swapped out some stuff
No more mind in motion
cold yacht
Perilous combustion is on as well as psy kinetic aura and wildfire
rigid sky
will take empathic evasion instead
Perilous combustion is surprisingly good
wildfire is surprisingly bad
cold yacht
Alright no more wildfire
rigid sky
Perilous combustion is +3 stacks to everything in an area around the dead dude, instantly
upper sun
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b88aab3-1ace-484a-a1ae-63b4c89f1ac9/un...
empathetic evasion my beloved.....
rigid sky
wildfire splits up to 4 stacks from the dead target among other targets
lethal lagoon
The main thing about the +1 jump is that it can target slightly behind you
lethal lagoon
In a normal game, even auric maels, there aren't enough enemies to reach the jump limit. So jump is usually skippable, since compesanting for bad positoning is bad in te long term.
rigid sky
so maybe one where your only wildfire is perilous combustion and shriek is ok?
maybe do take it, idk
I wouldn't
but I'm kinda convincing myself that it might be one of the cases where it's better than it appears
I mostly counsel against it for purgatus
lethal lagoon
Turn on all healthbars when testing wildfire and it becomes clear that's it's better than you'd think.
rigid sky
I quite like it on blaze trauma
I'll say that much
Damage pattern suits it very well
lethal lagoon
Also mate, base damage shriek is one of the worst talents in the game
Go fire lmao
cold yacht
Would ranged damage work on smite or should I grab a health or toughness damage reduction? I have one point left
lethal lagoon
Flaming shriek is alternatively one of the best talents in the game
crude vortex
flaming shriek 😍
lethal lagoon
This is how shriek works, the base damage starts falling off outside that small semi circle at the stsrt.
Base damage shriek is horrible
cold yacht
Hmm warp rider with smite
Pros: damage
Cons: smite doesn’t deal much damage
lethal lagoon
Flaming shirke is god-tier
crude vortex
RAWR EX THREE
🔥🔥🔥
cold yacht
Alright my build is just as fucked as it was previously but I’ll kill more things with soulblaze
jovial juniper
Needs the peril stacks
rigid sky
Each target that's lit up there
that's 6 stacks of soulblaze
right to the tip
that's enough to kill gunners and shotgunners iirc?
cold yacht
Time to test the build on…..
rigid sky
Shriek just to clear peril and save your life is shit
shriek is only good because of creeping flames
cold yacht
What difficulty should I do?
cold yacht
Malice heresy or damnation siblings?
upper sun
1-2-veg?
rigid sky
Some of us like to take new builds into lower difficulties as a test
and some of us, we ball.
cold yacht
Malice it is
lethal lagoon
Everything works in malice, that's not testing anything
rigid sky
It's shock troop gauntlet, all scabs, monstrous specials, enhanced blitz
lethal lagoon
All though tbf, everything works in normal damn too, just do your usual difficulty.
rigid sky
maybe nurgle's blessing?
upper sun
maelstrom modifier
how do we not have the same maelstroms up?
rigid sky
it's ok, I get self conscious about how I'll do sometimes
broken carbon
how do we not have the same maelstroms up?
auric and normal maelstroms are different
jovial juniper
maybe nurgle's blessing?
More Hp, damage, stun resistance
rigid sky
do whatever you gotta do to build confidence :)
lethal lagoon
People test in lower difficulties because it's a team game and they are being nice 
rigid sky
how do we not have the same maelstroms up?
idk what's on at the moment
upper sun
auric and normal maelstroms are different
yeah neither are 1-2
broken carbon
People test in lower difficulties because it's a team game and they are being ni...
(cowards)
rigid sky
I'm just saying one of the harder ones as a trole.
I did the lower difficulty thing before
upper sun
idk what's on at the moment
are maelstroms instanced between regions?
broken carbon
Being an asshole can be scary <a:NODDERS:1077297506418950275>
(cowards)
rigid sky
actually I like playing my more experimental shit when I'm with my girlfriend if she's feeling like sticking to heresy
like I'm a dogshit knife zealot so I don't take that to damnation atm
jovial juniper
are maelstroms instanced between regions?
No?
rigid sky
but apart from stuff where I know I'm bad I just go straight to hi5stg or maelstrom
upper sun
like I'm a dogshit knife zealot so I don't take that to damnation atm
ha same im not that guy too
broken carbon
knife zealot is great when ur team can kill hordes
lethal lagoon
It should be the same maelstrom for everyone
broken carbon
otherwise its agony
rigid sky
D379G right?
upper sun
ah yeah
upper sun
i believe its "traxis six uhhh something something"
broken carbon
traxis, something something WITH A NET!
jovial juniper
i have 1-3 up and whatever D-3-7 etc is
I can't check it rn, but I tend to change server region and I don't notice any change in the available mission
still hearth
Turn on all healthbars when testing wildfire and it becomes clear that's it's be...
Ew
Wildfire is absolutely awful
lethal lagoon
Meh, there's no point in having the wildfire argument with people who haven't done the same level of testing.
still hearth
broken carbon
Meh, there's no point in having the wildfire argument with people who haven't do...
or just explain it?
lethal lagoon
nah
still hearth
I've tested it a bunch and because of how it works if you're applying a lot of soul blaze it's often going to just die out
And if you're not then you're getting no damage
rigid sky
It's better with intermittent soulblaze imo
It works OK with trauma
But it's a luxury point
lethal lagoon
Also keep in the mind the earlier wildfire suggestion was to be paired with a meme smite build
still hearth
The jump damage only appears considerable because it's spreading but it will very rarely impact the game
lethal lagoon
I only suggest wildfire with Blaze Trauma and meme smite focus builds
rigid sky
It's a leftover point if you don't want puppet master mostly for me
upper sun
how does anyone have leftover points
rigid sky
how does anyone have leftover points
Enhanced Psionics baby
lethal lagoon
EP 
upper sun
oh 😭
rigid sky
That's literally its strongest point
It's "pretty good" and it's cheap
So you get more toughness nodes from the start
upper sun
wait wildfire works when they die from soulblaze not with soulblaze right?
rigid sky
With.
still hearth
wait wildfire works when they die *from* soulblaze not *with* soulblaze right?
Wildfire doesn't work
And also does
rigid sky
Same as in fire reborn BTW, if I remember rightly
rigid sky
That can be good tbh
still hearth
Like dead people you set on blaze will spread wildfire
rigid sky
Helps on spawn doors a little
lethal lagoon
Best place to get a feel for how wildfire spreads is the end segment of Magistrait up on that balcony 
still hearth
But only when the soul blaze dies out or the body despawns (iirc)
Wildfire is weird.
lethal lagoon
The elevator segement on the same map is also good
upper sun
Best place to get a feel for how wildfire spreads is the end segment of Magistra...
cryonic rod elevator
still hearth
Yeah they are
rigid sky
It must be on a death timer
still hearth
I don't know how it works in live games actually
rigid sky
Just a coded in delay for some reason
still hearth
But in psykarnum it works when the body despawns for you
Or when the wildfire dies out
Also idk why we can set bodies on fire
But we can
upper sun
i really wish they made enemies die faster
like why does the game even have to process long ass ugh uhhhh i'm dying tell my wife i love her...
upper sun
🤔 if i drop it to 3 ragdolls does my assail interact with less dead bodies?
lapis violet
wth is melk trying to get me to buy
upper sun
not bad
jovial juniper
Speed run strategy
halcyon gust
wth is melk trying to get me to buy
Honestly that's pretty solid
Perks are serviceable enough
So you can use your 2 fixes on the blessing
lapis violet
i feel actually worthless when i have to play with a plasma vet and an ogryn with a super good selfish build
actually annoys me so much to have to follow them like a lost puppy, not being able to do anything because they either onehit anything in melee range or onehit anything straight up because of plasma
and then there's me with my purgatus build where all of my strategy, which is to hold right click to 1. weaken big enemies with dots and 2. shut down hordes, is completely destroyed by maybe just a single person using an op weapon
sorry for the rant but i think it's actually an asshole move to use plasma
cinder moon
in what difficulty
lapis violet
auric
not saying my build is the best out there. those two guys knew what they were doing. i feel it's very selfish to play 100% optimally to the point of killing the enjoyment of other people purely by using op things
upper sun
nah its fine by me do all the damage
cinder moon
i like it when teammates carry their weight
upper sun
ill just collect plasteel
lapis violet
because there's 1: playing optimally. this would be surge smite whatever psyker. surge voidstrike with assail and dueling sword. ciag VoC veteran. monstrosity oneshot zealot. ogryn? shield ogryn?
upper sun
you have free aoe damage with zero ammo use
lapis violet
and then there's 2: using a maxed plasma with a build that makes it oneshot crushers, at worst two shot them
cinder moon
i come across more idiotic vets than good ones with a plasma, so seeing a good plasvet is nice
lapis violet
i do, but what's the point in doing anything other than just standing around and maybe killing two poxwalkers that manage to not get hit by either of those two people while struggling to even live
like, yes, i could shoot into space for the "enjoyment" of using blue fires. but why would i when it achieves nothing?
cinder moon
it's annoying as shit to get hit in the back when you're focused on killing shooters, so, you can be a team player and make sure your vet is free to do as they please
upper sun
i do get you psyker does feel like the least favorite child
i couldnt do twins on psyker but i did manage to do them with plasvet
spice veldt
yeah the unbalanced weapons can suck fun out of the game
cinder moon
i perils'd twice today because i got interrupted while casting near max peril all because my teammates weren't paying attention
upper sun
yeah the unbalanced weapons can suck fun out of the game
yes 🙂
lapis violet
it's annoying as shit to get hit in the back when you're focused on killing shoo...
they were good in general. not getting hit by anything. and if push came to shove, ogryn could use a single heavy and everything in melee range is dead. trauma force psyker also helped with cc
upper sun
also thrust pick shovel 😻
spice veldt
i perils'd twice today because i got interrupted while casting near max peril al...
voidstrike?
lapis violet
but what was the point of me being in that mission? i remember finding a chest with 2x10 plasteel
cinder moon
voidstrike?
smite/surge, trying to CC because the idiots weren't carrying their weight
lapis violet
that was it. that was the highlight of a 20 minute mission
spice veldt
just there for the ride
upper sun
i perils'd twice today because i got interrupted while casting near max peril al...
are you edging to max with transfer? jeez thats ballsy
lapis violet
just there for the ride
what ride when i die by 2 hits from poxwalkers 😭
cinder moon
the one vet died fucking NINE times
upper sun
but what was the point of me being in that mission? i remember finding a chest w...
yes so you get enough plasteel to roll a 380 plasma gun
cinder moon
i got blown into the void by a poxwalker one of them knocked into me
lapis violet
yes so you get enough plasteel to roll a 380 plasma gun
and force another player to suffer what i had to go through rn? no.
upper sun
"suffer"
lapis violet
in fact, if it was a decision of me either doing what the ogryn and the plasvet did or to never play the game again, i would remove the game from my account
cinder moon
the one vet died fucking NINE times
and i don't mean went down, he straight up died. NINE. times
spice veldt
😔
lapis violet
and i don't mean went down, he straight up died. NINE. times
there's people like that
upper sun
if your team is killing stuff faster than you can you have more room to fuck around/run ahead and try to kill things even faster
spice veldt
players who die a lot are quite annoying
i'm fine with it up to a certain point, but having to go and revive them gets annoying
upper sun
i can do so much dumb shit if my team is good
cinder moon
players who die a lot are quite annoying
i'm fine with it up to a certain point,...
at least i got some progress towards the rescue portrait
spice veldt
my philosophy is that it doesn't matter how bad you are as long as you don't interfere with my playstyle, and me having to go back and forth to revive you is something that constitutes as interfering with me
torpid girder
i think alot of ppl don't actually mind how quickly a player is killing everything i think they care more about the amount of like effort or skill it takes for them to do it
lapis violet
they can even run faster than i can! i have a dueling sword and no extra stam. i get winded faster than a 60 y/o smoker of 50 years
torpid girder
like i remember alot of ppl complaining about old assail but a big thing they talked about was just how easy it was for the psykers to spam left click at anything without thinking to just kill everything
spice veldt
and assail being very obvious and visual
cinder moon
the crosshair for plasma is W I D E, so you have to know how to aim, or just use a monitor dot
but you still have to manage heat
spice veldt
and comparatively not many people talking about ogryn (though not many people play ogryn)
torpid girder
if i see a player murder everything with something that takes alot of mechanical skill and reaction time to use that's awesomee but it's alot less fun when u know it's not that difficult
spice veldt
it's wide but you can easily intuit where the center of your screen is
cinder moon
ogryn is at least ultra large and takes a lot of damage
spice veldt
and it has headshot magnetism
upper sun
the crosshair for plasma is W I D E, so you have to know how to aim, or just use...
so is the hitbox
torpid girder
and comparatively not many people talking about ogryn (though not many people pl...
shh shh shhhhh i love ogryn he'll always be an exception to me 💞
spice veldt
shh shh shhhhh i love ogryn he'll always be an exception to me 💞
riiiiiiiight in the kneecaps
cinder moon
helps to know where plasma is actually going when you're trying to shoot far and hit through stuff
cinder moon
does that work through terrain geo/props?
upper sun
riiiiiiiight in the kneecaps
vets who dont run survivalist also lose kneecap privileges
spice veldt
as long as you're within a certain distance of a weakspot, it counts as a weakspot hit
same thing as revolver
torpid girder
I will admit i also find plasma vet REALLY REALLY boring to play with how good it is cuz it just makes every engagement like too simple
unless it's a chaff horde the solution is to just shoot it with the plasma gun and it like makes my brain numb :(
even number than it normally is
lapis violet
time to feel useful. smite surge psyker
upper sun
your brain is a number?
torpid girder
yes. its at least 1
upper sun
spice veldt
at least 2 since it's an even number
magic kayak
any good psyker specific mods?
torpid girder
this is why arco is the smartest
torpid girder
any good psyker specific mods?
i think there's one that displays how many stacks of DOTs are on enemies which is useful for soulblaze builds
spice veldt
there's perilgauge and whatnot
magic kayak
perilgauge would be nice
cinder moon
at least plasvet can't just stand there facetanking everything with executioner's stance anymore, though i do miss that
spice veldt
multiple keybinds if you want to map quelling/reload to two different keys
magic kayak
I was wanting something to make it more obvious
torpid girder
at least plasvet can't just stand there facetanking everything with executioner'...
slowly hiding voice of command behind a corner
spice veldt
since i need to have it on multiple keys in order to dodge-slide and quell at the same time
cinder moon
VoC is boring to me
spice veldt
yeah it's p neat
cinder moon
and plasvet arguably needs more discipline than voidstrike
void you can just walk around constantly shooting with no worries of ammo
spice veldt
though the ammo economy is a meme in this game
there's plenty of ammo to be found if you loot
and that's not considering survivalist
cinder moon
i've had teammates steal literally all the ammo
spice veldt
that is unlikely if you're doing any amount of looting
cinder moon
so i'm constantly orange/yellow even with survival
spice veldt
i've never met teammates who went down all of the sidepaths
and there was always unpicked ammo to be found
cinder moon
one guy would walk up to a box i was at and immediately take whatever was in it before the box even finished opening
i saw him eat like 5 big bags that mission
spice veldt
yeah and there's going to be another sidepath with ammo
upper sun
i've had teammates steal literally all the ammo
same they also happened to be vets without survivalist
spice veldt
or you just run ahead during an engagement and you can just shlerp up all the ammo before they do
upper sun
they also triple tapped ammo boxe(s)
spice veldt
you can either actually loot or be a rat if you really want that ammo and you don't want to loot
either way, i doubt that you are looting much if you think there's not much ammo on the map
cinder moon
my plasvet build isn't particularly fast
halcyon gust
i feel actually worthless when i have to play with a plasma vet and an ogryn wit...
Sometimes you get runs where you just become a cheer leader
cinder moon
you ever go down 90% of the sidepaths and constantly get empty boxes? yeah
cinder moon
frequently happens when there's an ammo hog on the team
i'm always off on my own looking for boxes because i love stims
spice veldt
mhm
lapis violet
the duality of auric. one mission i feel like a worthless sack of potatoes, another i have a vet who's playing with in game audio turned off
halcyon gust
I have days where I feel like I don't contribute to my team as my Voidstrike psyker because I have a cracked as all fuck Vet going to town
Which makes me a bubble shield with a side of Smite
lapis violet
what does voidstrike have that plasma doesn't
halcyon gust
Infinite ammo
lapis violet
survivalist
lapis violet
peril
torpid girder
maybe i just haven't played plasma vet enough but outside of no ammo pickup maelstroms i've never ran out of ammo for it even when there r like 2 gunluggers on the team
halcyon gust
survivalist
Survivalist can only keep Plasma up for so long even the Revolver
You only get 1 sometimes 2 ammo per proc
spice veldt
just looking at the lua, there's ~1000% ammo to be picked up and 2 ammo packs that can spawn
though i'll have to verify
upper sun
tbh i cant prove this but either all vets are assholes or the game spawns less ammo the more vets are in the game
halcyon gust
Lot of time. You get a storm trooper
And that Storm trooper is your ammo gremlin sucking up all the ammo they see
cinder moon
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torpid girder
u would be surprised how much survivalist can help with attrition
like ammo pickups aside whenever u and ur team annihilate a horde it almost gives u as much ammo as u used up but maybe i'm a little dumb
like starts at 109 ammo at the beginning of the horde and then left at 105 ammo after everything dies
spice veldt
there's at least 205 +30 + 490 +125 = 850% ammo on the map
so 1050% doesn't sound far-fetched
# of pickups are from here if you want to check it for yourself
torpid girder
numbers too complex. definitely at least 1
halcyon gust
u would be surprised how much survivalist can help with attrition
like ammo pick...
That is true. Situations like HISTG just throws so many elites and specials at you even the most ammo hungry Ogryn can be topped up
torpid girder
ya especially since survivalist gives that ammo benefit to the entire team at once so in reality it's helping like 4x more than u realize it is
halcyon gust
It adds up over the course of a run
torpid girder
the more ammo it gives ur teammates = the less ammo they need to pick up = the more ammo YOU can pick up for free
sometimes on my zealot and ogryn w/ a survivalist vet I literally get more ammo from the aura than i can physically use up
halcyon gust
I run the Helbore 2 on my Vet so I'm already not picking up a lot of ammo naturally
torpid girder
(but that's probs cuz they're primarily melee builds anyways)
halcyon gust
Ogryn kinda depends on their build
halcyon gust
Zealots have 20 different ways to butcher a enemy if they enter melee range
Either willfully or by force
torpid girder
zealot is just so fun for some reason
it just does everything so fast
halcyon gust
Maybe I should actually build my Zealot up
torpid girder
zealot used to be my least played class until i switched from a chorus build to a crusher/revolver chastise melee build and now I play it as much as my ogryn
it is like disgustingly fun and effective
halcyon gust
I been putting some time as Ogryn and Psyker more as I been giving Vet a break
magic kayak
zealot used to be my least played class until i switched from a chorus build to ...
hmm whats that build like?
I got tired of zealot also
torpid girder
hmm whats that build like?
👀
glacial nest
Zealot is fun, you just need to not charge gunners that are actively shooting at you
spice veldt
twbs 😎
magic kayak
that looks fun
torpid girder
u can actually very effectively charge gunners actively shooting at u since chastise just gives u ranged immunity during its dash + twbs exists
(toootally fair)
spice veldt
or gunner res + enduring faith