psyker-class

[cloud sequoia]

maybe try bind keyboard number instead

[ornate hamlet]

what benefit does warp nexus provide to the purgatas staff? 🤔 I feel like crit is a waste

[spice veldt]

on crit, two soulblaze stacks applied instead of one

[ornate hamlet]

oh

but the max stacks on enemies is 16 before venting shriek, right?

[spice veldt]

ye

well, 15 stacks

though keep in mind that you're rarely reaching 15 stacks with a single cast unless you holding it on a single enemy and you roll nice crits

so there's value there

and also you don't have many other options anyways on purg

terrifying barrage is especially useless
focused channeling makes less sense now that psyker staffs have some weird periods of stun immunity

[ornate hamlet]

what about the supress blessing?

[spice veldt]

purgatus has very good suppression by default so terrifying is redundant

[ornate hamlet]

i see

did FS nerf a bunch of psyker stuff in recent patches?

[spice veldt]

to my memory, a minor direct nerf to voidstrike/assail and another indirect nerf to assail

soulstealer was brought down from 15% to 7.5% toughness

[ornate hamlet]

no purg staff stuff was tampered with? 🤔

[spice veldt]

nah

purg is purg

[ornate hamlet]

does souylblaze get the effects of the weapon you currently hold?

i heard somewhere that it does

[spice veldt]

ye

if you've got a +25% maniac perk on the currently held weapon, that'll apply to soulblaze

[ornate hamlet]

okay cool i thought they had nerfed that also

[spice veldt]

they only nerfed that for projectiles, strangely enough

DoTs got untouched by it

[ornate hamlet]

DoTs?

[spice veldt]

damage-over-time

[ornate hamlet]

oh cool

[spice veldt]

so you can still annihilate a crusher patrol with purg + uncanny strike melee

[ornate hamlet]

im trynna get big numbers though

my trauam staff build goes crazy good

but i wanna get similar values with the purg staff. it may not be possible

[rigid sky]

Venting Shriek and warp Siphon help Purgatus' numbers a lot

[abstract arch]

i hit the ordo docket cap. the time has come to see if i can finally replace my best trauma staff XD

[ornate hamlet]

watcha mean?

[rigid sky]

They just go well with it. Venting Shriek is a huge damage spike especially if you're already using soulflame, and then it helps you to regenerate the warp charges very rapidly with In Fire Reborn

Also Purgatus is just quite team dependent

If your team is full of horde clear already it might not be the best pick

[ornate hamlet]

true

soul flame?

you mean soul blaze?

[rigid sky]

Right yes

I think also if you're looking at scoreboards and you have another soulblaze user on your team then your numbers will interfere with each other

Scoreboards are artificial metrics anyway, actual game impact is really hard to measure

[radiant frigate]

that is a lot of plasteel

[upper sun]

how do you have more plasteel than dimantine

[abstract arch]

i dont know

[rigid sky]

I think if you don't spend any for a long time it ends up like that

[bold badger]

I have more plasteel than diamantine

[plucky flax]

Unarmoured and t3 nexus

[abstract arch]

i knoow . im fine with t3 nexus but id prefer flak

i forget what i originally had on it it was one of my first batch of trauma staff rolls from brunt

[radiant frigate]

no gunner resist 💀

[abstract arch]

out of thousands of staves i got at least 6 380s. but every staff i upgraded with potential was unfortunately not good enough / bricked. i guess a couple were good for a rending trauma! ..... if i were to one day wield such a thing.
what do you put on a rending trauma for perk?

[vestal fulcrum]

You certainly want Flak

Other perk could probably be Maniac/Carapace/Unyielding

(Unyielding is a little eh, still)

What staff you have right there is very, very good

[upper sun]

the crafting is very unfair

those cost me 100k off brunts

one shitty deimos cost me about 700k

[potent echo]

At least not 100k plasteel

[upper sun]

100k dockets for the bases

[vestal fulcrum]

Very nice successful Blaze Trauma bases

[upper sun]

the thing is theyre both not what i wanted because i thought i was buying void strikes

[abstract arch]

traumas are generally the only weapons ive ever rolled to get. those are greats ones, i wish i also had a lower warp resist on my main staff like yours has ^^

[upper sun]

the thing is im still awful with them

The Emperor gives bread to those without teeth

[radiant frigate]

💀

[solemn sluice]

i love the head-popping

[abstract arch]

thats so true! i have more 380s on my ogryn than ive ever had one any class LOL

you know whats funny XD voidstrike for me is hard

because my character has to look up because he is a short guy

to get the weakspot hits v.v

[upper sun]

yeah its so stupid how your char height can be an important breaking point

i can only hit melee headshots with my vet

[solemn sluice]

wait really?

dam my wizard is TINY

[abstract arch]

honestly i kind of love it XD a lot of poxwalkers and trash enemies are actually taller than i am

[paper lily]

fake news ur psyker doesn't wear pants

[upper sun]

yeah like for the way i aim a little bit shorter is perfect

[solemn sluice]

i love my space wizard

[upper sun]

damn sick

[solemn sluice]

i scored the funny name

[upper sun]

also start saving plasteel dont use any until you're level 30

and maybe not even then since theyre working on a crafting system

[solemn sluice]

ah alright

[abstract arch]

have i played with u before

[spice veldt]

things are cheaper with lower rating items and you're getting less plasteel from lower diffs anyways so it won't matter in the end much

[paper lily]

yep

[solemn sluice]

im using the head-popping power

i do lvl 3 missions

so the in-between

[upper sun]

BB is fine but assail is great too esp for levelling

[modern bronze]

he is the expert

[spice veldt]

i'm shlerping you

[solemn sluice]

esp?

[upper sun]

especially

[solemn sluice]

ah

[upper sun]

i use abbreviations so people dont know i cant spell

[solemn sluice]

i just enjoy BB because i get free head bursts from random enemies i hit hehe

[upper sun]

uhhhh bross

[solemn sluice]

thats godly

[upper sun]

scaling isnt awful on pen too its only 4% worse on heavy carap attacks than a sword with 79% penetration

[radiant frigate]

bit weird tbh

my psyker is short and my vet is tall but i do not feel a difference in head clicking

[upper sun]

its most likely the way i aim

[radiant frigate]

Perhaps

from the clips you have shown, your play looks much different from mine

[upper sun]

thats a very nice way of saying frantic

[solemn sluice]

our team just got murked

[radiant frigate]

should i just record something sometime

then everyone else can look and go "wtf why are you doing this"

[upper sun]

ofc constructive criticism is the path to success

[solemn sluice]

should my space wizard use barriers or the kiling buff one

[radiant frigate]

do you believe in barriers

(i do not)

[solemn sluice]

barriers are funny

because then you can shout BARRIER in a funny voice

[upper sun]

i only use barrier with purge because its the one staff i trust myself with

[halcyon gust]

Nothing like trapping a bunch of shooters in the thunder dome ™️

Zealots: I'm not trapped in a bubble full of heretics. You're all trapped in here with Me

[solemn sluice]

lmao

i want the voidstrike staff

[halcyon gust]

Voidstrike is fun

Love my trusty staff

[solemn sluice]

how do i get a named staff?

[halcyon gust]

This is done via a mod

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/orb-saruman-orbin-time-gif-26779043

[solemn sluice]

ah

i love how my character talks about a gay husband

well his gay husband

[upper sun]

I was in fact ||not that guy||

[cinder moon]

there was a time i heard the beloved psyker say something about the agitator thinking bad thoughts about them, and the agitator shouted BETRAYER

[solemn sluice]

lmao

[halcyon gust]

I love the interactions

[solemn sluice]

is the seer psyker gay?

[cinder moon]

love for the emperor transcends gender

[halcyon gust]

The Dreamer Psyker is beloved sexual

[solemn sluice]

because it's funny

[upper sun]

who even knows its the Emperor of gaslighting

[solemn sluice]

i went with the seer voice

[upper sun]

for all we know his true form is a cat

[halcyon gust]

Savant/Enforcer voice for mine

[cinder moon]

i feel like seer and savant are the most popular

[solemn sluice]

male savant is funny

gives me germlin vibes

[upper sun]

90% of the time i see beloved male either savant and the romanian one

[halcyon gust]

I seen my share of Loners

[cinder moon]

male loner is in a league of his own

rarely see fem loner

[solemn sluice]

i see seer, and loners alot

[halcyon gust]

Female Psykers has a 80% chance of being a Enforcer 15% dreamers and you get the Rare loner

[solemn sluice]

the crazy one

[halcyon gust]

Males is almost even between the 3 types

[solemn sluice]

i just went with the seer as it works for my wizard

[cinder moon]

male savant seems least popular in my experience

[upper sun]

GeT bEHInd me SIMPLETONS

[halcyon gust]

I sense great....Stupidity

[cinder moon]

fem loner interacting with fem savant is usually pretty good

[solemn sluice]

is voidstrike staff bascailly a fireball staff?

[cinder moon]

voidstrike is psyker's plasmagun

[upper sun]

Yeah

[halcyon gust]

Yeah in simple terms

[solemn sluice]

SWEET

[upper sun]

they say "blast radius" but in reality it has great penetration

[solemn sluice]

i can then SAY FIREBALL MOTHERFUCKERS

[cinder moon]

if you wanna use a fire staff, purgatus is psyker flamethrower

[solemn sluice]

yeh ik about that one

[halcyon gust]

Or build a Flame Trauma staff

[upper sun]

ah the staff of deafening your ears

[solemn sluice]

im trying to figure out how to spread the wildfire ability i have

[upper sun]

fucking hell our staves are so good they have irl debuffs

[cinder moon]

trauma psyker aiming at the other side of the room

[solemn sluice]

that passive

[halcyon gust]

Speak up sibling. I can't hear you over my Trauma staff

[radiant frigate]

i am the rare loner

[upper sun]

WHERE ARE YOU PURGE HAS BLINDED ME

[cinder moon]

wildfire spreads from any soulblaze that kills an enemy

be it from itself, venting shriek's creeping flames, purgatus, or in fire reborn node

[radiant frigate]

fem loner with male loner had one nice interaction that i mostly screenshotted

"you've been thinking nasty thoughts about me again, haven't you?"

[solemn sluice]

so use venting shriek then?

[upper sun]

ok fuck it im making a 5th char I NEED to hear more female agitator

[halcyon gust]

[halcyon gust]

Wish we can change the voice of our current operative

[cinder moon]

if you wanna go full funny flames, yes

[solemn sluice]

alright

i love bb dmg on bosses

[radiant frigate]

hehe boss go pop

[cinder moon]

full psyker teams where you have multiple personalities are usually a dialogue treat

[solemn sluice]

i just died twice and then got stolen by a trapper on my last life

does voidstrike staff proc flames?

[cinder moon]

it can with specific nodes, forget if it gets blazing spirit blessing

you generally wanna go for warp flurry/surge on void though, and get flames from nodes

[solemn sluice]

nodes?

[cinder moon]

talents

[solemn sluice]

ohhhh

[frozen loom]

is it worth getting shred III for 2/3 of my melk coins this early in the week 🤔

nvm I got it lol

[cinder moon]

perilous combustion + venting shriek w/ creeping flames + wildfire is the basic talent combo for stacking funny flames. you can double down by going with brain rupture and warp charges, picking kinetic flayer as BR modifier, and in fire reborn for warp charge modifier

I doubled down for my voidstrike build, usually get entire hordes on fire as I spam psyker plasma into them

[solemn sluice]

i seees

[cinder moon]

some people say wildfire ain’t worth it, but it’s a free point on the way down the left side and it does spread to basically all the mobs when you get going

[rigid sky]

Wildfire is, to put it mildly, extremely debatable.

Read into how it actually works before you decide to take it

[rigid sky]

Depends on your ranged really. I find most psyker builds do best with creeping flames shriek, barriers are a bit more marginal (but very good). Scrier's Gaze is primarily a gun skill.

[solemn sluice]

ah

[cinder moon]

wildfire only being a 1 point investment on stacking the left side tree of the tree makes it insanely cheap, and it goes a long way towards keeping up WC through in fire reborn; the opportunity cost is minimal, considering how few other useful nodes you can get to with that single point

the major downside is perilous combustion being limited to 3 stacks

but paired with purgatus/creeping flames, it can do more work

[solemn sluice]

whats fire reborn?

[cinder moon]

think soulblaze stacks are still influenced by the blessings on your weapons as well, so you can get some funky interactions with rending blessings

[solemn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-starwars-star-wars-emperor-gif-7513769

im going the funny unlimted power moment

[cinder moon]

warp siphon modifier, 10% chance to get warp charge on any enemy killed by soulblaze

I have an unlimited power smite build that leverages soulblaze and wildfire

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b88aab3-1ace-484a-a1ae-63b4c89f1ac9/unlimited-power-3

[upper sun]

enfeeble is kinda mid imo

[cinder moon]

can see it in action here

[upper sun]

i would much rather than evasion than enfeeble

[cinder moon]

depends what you’re doing

[upper sun]

idk man +1 dodge goes hard

[cinder moon]

if you’re not doing anything to leverage that, enfeeble is a free point and free damage

[solemn sluice]

hmmm

[upper sun]

smite still does very little damage and idk if i trust any team from pubs to output more damage with the buff rather than 1 extra attack

[cinder moon]

pair with creeping flames from venting shriek

entire rooms locked down and quickly dead

[upper sun]

creeping flames does that on its own still

[cinder moon]

provided you can keep casting because some random poxwalker didn’t spawn behind you and knock you out of the cast

[upper sun]

and it wont matter much for bigger mobs

[cinder moon]

oh but it does matter for bigger mobs, since you can keep casting with battle meditation

especially with warp rider

[solemn sluice]

i hate the gunners

the ones that rapid fire there laserguns

yeh the gunners

[halcyon creek]

They are rough. But a well placed shield wall does a lot to nullify them

[solemn sluice]

has anyone played a gun wizard before?

[cinder moon]

gunker is a good time with the right build

[upper sun]

this doesnt feel that great

a profane gun still does better damage

[cinder moon]

that's because you're testing it on like 6 enemies

it scales with mob density

[upper sun]

smite can be game saving

but 99% of the time its "please hit this guy for me"

[cinder moon]

that's improper usage of smite

best applied to ambushes and horde spawns

[upper sun]

most of the time a truama staff would do better

[cinder moon]

that can be said of any blitz

[solemn sluice]

how do i make a gun go full auto?

[cinder moon]

pick a full auto gun

[upper sun]

some guns do that some guns dont

[tired estuary]

Some people run autoclick mods for guns that shoot quickly but aren't naturally automatic

[upper sun]

M1 zealots mentioned

[solemn sluice]

like mods modd?

or in game mods

like in game upgrades

[upper sun]

mods mods

an auto clicker or script

[solemn sluice]

huuh why?

[upper sun]

i have one for auto injecting stims essentially 4+mouse click

[tired estuary]

B/c it can be easier on hands and mouse over clicking 10000 times a match

[solemn sluice]

dam i guess i need one then

i guess it's allowed then?

[solemn sluice]

could i pinch urs?

[spice veldt]

yeah fatshark has a p lenient modding policy

as long as it's clientside-only stuff and doesn't affect other players, go ham

[solemn sluice]

so an autoclicker would be fine?

of sorts

for the guns?

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wSpLrezo6Q this is what i use

[spice veldt]

yeah macros are something that's been explicitly allowed

[upper sun]

its so old even if its unsafe 90% it cant do shit to windows 10

[solemn sluice]

because man autogun for sure sounds like a gun that fires automatically LOL

[spice veldt]

headhunter autoguns are burst/semis, but the braced and infantry autoguns are automatics

an autoclicker for ranged weapons
an autoclicker for melee weapons

[solemn sluice]

do i have to throw them into a mod folder?

[spice veldt]

a gif/text guide for installing mods https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/#/installing-mods

basically yeah, though there's some extra stuff you'll have to do first to set things up

you can search up video installation guides if that's more up your alley

[solemn sluice]

ah thats fine i can possible work it out

[spice veldt]

once you've got stuff set up, installing a mod amounts to just dropping a folder into the mods folder and writing the name of the folder into a text file to enable it

[solemn sluice]

ah cools

[halcyon gust]

10/10 recommended mods

[solemn sluice]

btw does that mean people will see the semi-automatic guns shoot like they are automatic?

[halcyon gust]

They'll see you shooting the gun as fast as possible

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/246

This is also something I recommend

[solemn sluice]

so i just put that in the folder before any of the other mods i want?

[halcyon gust]

It has intructions how on the page

[solemn sluice]

Sweet it all worked

[vestal fulcrum]

One does not need damage on a blazing spirit trauma, right

[upper sun]

ive been told but i still dont believe it

[rigid sky]

It's less important than with the other one but I still wouldn't dump it

blazing spirit trauma does minimum size blasts more to try to trigger fires, true

but you still want good alpha damage for elites

[vestal fulcrum]

I mean, I have just found this roll in the store, and I have a better one myself, but the game is being funny sometimes with the things it offers

[rigid sky]

I mean if that was a purgatus

it'd be perfect

perk included

[vestal fulcrum]

I’d prefer lower warp resist on Purgatus

[rigid sky]

obviously charge rate being analogous to burn

yeah, fair point gotta try to pump those venting shrieks out

you get a lot of them if you go warp siphon

[vestal fulcrum]

I think this is currently one of my "better" Purgatusaes

[rigid sky]

ha, 80 damage too just for the flex

[vestal fulcrum]

... it affects the soulburn application rate by a smidge :P

[upper sun]

my only one

[vestal fulcrum]

And this is my secondary, more generalist option, I think

[upper sun]

stamina instead of groaners would go hard tho

[vestal fulcrum]

Unused in ages, I really rarely ever play Purgatus

[rigid sky]

though it just added a tiny little bit of damage to the application part

[upper sun]

damage only effects the lmb right?

what the hell is "burn intensity" and why is it on damage instead of burn

[spice veldt]

affects both the LMB and RMB

burn intensity is prob just the "fire rate" of the direct damage

burn has its own thing that determines the rate at which soulblaze stacks is applied

[upper sun]

dont you jsut love hot spawning into a game thats 90% done

ez plasteel

is there a mod that triggers voice lines other than yes or no

[frozen loom]

Newbie Q: How exactly am I supposed to deal with monstrosities as a psyker? Spam BB/Staff and shield block if aggro'd until aggro ends?

[upper sun]

dodging ideally blocking if things get really bad

depending on staff/melee/bb setup the one that does more single target damage

[tired estuary]

vs plogryn as long as you have space you can safely duel and stab it in the head repeatedly while you have aggro. Also possible vs chaos spawn but is harder

[frozen loom]

Is there a decent stand-in in the psykhanium for single target testing? Reaper? Or is there a mod where I can spawn a monstrosity in there?

[tired estuary]

yeah there's mods to spawn enemies with ai in training mode

[spice veldt]

creature spawner mod

though keep in mind that you don't get any lag compensation like you would in multiplayer games, so plague ogryn attacks are much harder to dodge in the psykh

[tired estuary]

also try not to backpedal vs monster aggro if possible, side dodge/kite slug around smth instead

a lot of people still just mash backdash vs monster aggro and make the whole scenario more annoying

[frozen loom]

oh that's an interesting bit

[rigid sky]

If you have purgatus you can stack 15 burns onto them which is a lot of damage. Can then venting shriek on top of it for an extra 6, 21 total.

[tired estuary]

• uncanny if you have it

[spice veldt]

boss damage as psyker with your class weapons will be p whatevs in the end

[rigid sky]

If you have a good finesse gun like a CIAG or a laspistol, you'll probably be your team's actual carry vs the monster

otherwise brain bursts and melee is ok

[tired estuary]

yeah gunker can do good boss dmg, so can ds/knife precog stabbing weakpoint, otherwise it's kind of a weird low point for a glass cannon class lol

[rigid sky]

most of our staves are burst

only purgatus is decent but it's also not really designed for singletarget

[hollow current]

plague ogryn in actual missions i sleep.
plague ogryn in psykanium im holding on for dear life

[tired estuary]

oh yeah if you get really good surge headshots with unyielding void it can do some dmg

[rigid sky]

I mean void isn't too bad too tbh

[upper sun]

creature spawner really should have been a part of the game

also makes zero sense locking ogryn behind a penance

idk if the "old people" here know this but if you buy the game now you have to kill like 10 of each ogryn before you can have them in the psykanium

[spice veldt]

oh it's not gated by the level of your current character now?

[frozen loom]

followup q at risk of sounding dumb: what's unyielding void?

inb4 it's just a voidstrike with unyielding perk

[spice veldt]

unyielding is an armour type
ogryns, besides crushers (armoured ogryn enemies with the rock sledgehammer) are unyielding

yeah that

[upper sun]

nope i think i had to kill 10 crushers or reapers to unlock them

[frozen loom]

ohhh, surge is a voidstaff blessing

[wet belfry]

Chaos spawns are the only enemy in the game that i directly fear

I love CS grab

No issues whatsoever

[upper sun]

btw do you have a zealot also called wilmer?

[wet belfry]

No

[upper sun]

must have been another dude then

[wet belfry]

I use generic default names because i hate customization

[frozen loom]

Thanks for the answers. Just got the spawner mod and will test things out

[upper sun]

same

[hollow current]

Beast of Nurgle is annoying if it's focused on me. Total sponge without easy access to that pimple. They're also absolutely terrifying in tight spaces with nowhere to go.

[wet belfry]

I dont think you would find me in any pub game anyways

I dont play public matches

[upper sun]

BoN only shows me the pimple when im reloading 😭

[tired estuary]

pub games own I love the clown fiesta

[wet belfry]

Its either solo or with a dedicated strike team

[upper sun]

i like pubs its always nice spawning into an almost done game for free resources

[tired estuary]

I like spawning into a barrel or smth with knockback and getting sent into the void

[halcyon gust]

Even better. Spawning right into a Mauler or crusher overhead

[upper sun]

hot spawns are always nice

[halcyon gust]

They always my favorite spawns because the next action you do can turn the tide of a battle

Why I generally make it habit if I hot spawn in I just use my ability

[frozen loom]

oh, creature spawns don't have the damage indicator

[spice veldt]

yeah you'll need the healthbars mod

[frozen loom]

thanks for that

the road to optimization is paved with QoL mods

[wintry ivy]

how to finish the penances Power Up

its hard

on malice threat or higher need 100% peril quelled?

[frozen loom]

isn't it based on warp charges

the warp siphon keystone

[cinder moon]

yeah, gotta be at max WC, which can be 4 or 6 if you take warp battery node

[halcyon gust]

300 seconds with max warp charges

For the match. You have no ability because Warp charges

[cinder moon]

power up is killing 100 elites/specials while at max WC

[halcyon gust]

Which you can get pretty passively with any decent psyker build

[cinder moon]

as for the other one, 5 minutes out of 20 isn't really a big deal

[halcyon gust]

Just play a Hi intensity game with one of the psyker kills that lets you get warp charges from you or allies killing stuff or anything on soul blaze fire and don;t use your ability at all

[cinder moon]

basically

[halcyon gust]

I got mine pre-class rework so it was just brain burst random far away enemies to maintain charges and prey to god the vet player is blind

Ummm

Blind enough to not notice the blue ring around the random enemies

[stark nova]

What’s dumdum

[hollow current]

damage on close range hit.. stacks 5 times. up to 22.5-30% on max stacks depending on blessing level I think

[stark nova]

No like what perk is it on the gun

[hollow current]

It's a blessing for ads infantry guns and recon lasrifles + las pistols

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons?is_primary=0 check here for whatever you use.

[stark nova]

I don’t have it yet rip

[upper sun]

i just got it yesterday from melk some blessings take a while to get

[wintry ivy]

get it

thx

[rigid sky]

Try to get it, it's the best blessing for anything it can go on iirc

[stark nova]

Yea I’m farming

I finished getting all my classes to 30 today so now I can just farm

[rigid sky]

I think low rank is fine if it's all you have

[stark nova]

Me and a friend are doing the auric maelstrom stuff lol

I’m poor af

[rigid sky]

Gunker is pretty tricky but quite tough

Uh

Pretty tricky but really strong I meant

Just repeated myself

[stark nova]

@rigid sky I use this

[rigid sky]

Fair enough, I go purist when I play it

Scrier's Gaze too because the damage from it is just dumb

30s DD is much easier to work with too

[vestal fulcrum]

what is it with good Obscuruses just spontaneously appearing

I don't know

But I shall not complain

[mental rock]

there is no good obscurus

[vestal fulcrum]

Meanwhile, the good Obscurus:

(it's a different one, I just happen to have it )

[mental rock]

nah, still not good

cause its bad weapon

[vestal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[mental rock]

[upper sun]

i have the same issue

give me deimos or give me death

[wintry ivy]

such a pity for perk

[upper sun]

the new crafting system is coming fear not

[wintry ivy]

i think the cd for this keystone is so important for nomanus

[upper sun]

oh also if you're using surge you dont want in fire

[wintry ivy]

i think its good way to deal with the zombies with fire

with wildfire

[rigid sky]

Shriek itself and perilous combustion are your only sources though

[harsh urchin]

Wildfire is really bad

[cinder moon]

what else are you gonna get with that single point

it's free damage

[upper sun]

EMPATHETIC EVASION 🎉

[vestal fulcrum]

Toughness is always a good small node you could consider

And/or if you have access to them

[upper sun]

tbh i dumped the last node for warp siphon

[vestal fulcrum]

There’s 5 in the tree IIRC, and getting at least 3 is somewhat realistic

[coral cave]

is blazing spirit any good on force swords?

or should I stick to uncanny and deflector?

[upper sun]

you can go blazing spirit shred on illisi but its trash

uncanny is still king

[coral cave]

I feel like deflector is big tier also

[vestal fulcrum]

Not really - things typically die from you just swinging

[upper sun]

yeah me too

[cinder moon]

deflector is great for defense

[vestal fulcrum]

It can be useful if you feel like using it, but I personally see no point in using it, in the current state of the game

[cinder moon]

especially when your idiot teammates won’t kill the gunners

[coral cave]

yea I figured it might be good to spread warp fire with melee tho

[upper sun]

if it was a stack of soulblaze on hit it would be good

but its just for crits

[coral cave]

so what do you guys recommend I pair uncanny with?

[vestal fulcrum]

Ranged damage mitigation is so easy it’s really hard to justify bringing Deflector instead of a different blessing

[cinder moon]

deflector + kinetic deflection = big time survivability

Illisi does fine by itself so having the defense option is good

[vestal fulcrum]

Slaughterer, Executor, Unstable Power, Deflector if you really want it

[upper sun]

executor/slaught/deflector are the best options with uncanny imo

oh yeah unstable power is good too

[coral cave]

from personal experience while starting out the game this has carried me through a lotta situations

[cinder moon]

slaughterer + deflector = hedged bets

[coral cave]

aight so obscurus is big poopoo

its between illisi and

the other one

the single target

[vestal fulcrum]

Deimos

[cinder moon]

deimos

[vestal fulcrum]

Mk4 Dueling sword is also a bit like a force sword if you really think about it reeeal hard

[cinder moon]

if you get a good obscurus before illisi or deimos there’s nothing wrong with using it

[coral cave]

I've been spamming dueling sword for a while now

wanna go back to force swords for a bit

[cinder moon]

I have a god tier roll of each dueling sword. fun times

[coral cave]

Illisi also likes uncanny I assume?

[vestal fulcrum]

Obscurus just has very odd/uncomfortable attack patterns

[coral cave]

everything likes uncanny strike what am I thinking

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, it’s still good

[coral cave]

yea

not really good for horde clear

but neither single target

I personally have not been using it since they added the two other ones

[cinder moon]

my main problem with dueling sword is trying to use deflector out of habit

[upper sun]

[cinder moon]

then I’m like “oh yeah” and dodge 20m sideways

[upper sun]

the biggest problem with deflector is that i never use it when i have it and always try to use it when i dont have it

[cinder moon]

I do enjoy walking at a group of gunners while absorbing all their shots, then shrieking at them

[upper sun]

really makes you wonder why the inquisition has a bunch of high tier psykers running around in hive cities

we should be commanding armies

[supple sedge]

Nah let ogryn take bullets

Your too squishy

[cinder moon]

too kind, sweet brute

[supple sedge]

[upper sun]

brunt will not stop edging me with good deimos'

[cinder moon]

I have and use both Deimos and illisi, just for different builds

[coral cave]

what perks would I want for illisi?

flak and maniac?

[upper sun]

flak maniac yeah

[willow hazel]

when in doubt flak/maniac

[coral cave]

deimos?

unyielding carapace could be nice

with the special attack

maybe keep flak though

[willow hazel]

The demios's special is pretty niche

[cinder moon]

deimos special is only really useful for getting full damage on a mutie that’s passing you by

does the same thing as chainweapon specials where as long as it lands, it still does all the damage even if the target runs away

otherwise can just spam light/heavy combo

[coral cave]

what do you guys think I should do with this?

[cinder moon]

Unarmored to maniac, blazing spirit to whatever you want

[coral cave]

I think I'll go deflector

cuz slaughterer seems unnecessary

[vestal fulcrum]

Should I get this, I wonder

Cursed Carapace perk

[upper sun]

BRUH

[coral cave]

what kinda UI is that?

or is it some kinda site ?

[vestal fulcrum]

It's a browser plugin to check Brunt's/Melk's

[upper sun]

Its a website

https://accounts.atoma.cloud/dashboard

[coral cave]

oh wow

that makes sense

[vestal fulcrum]

It helps people like me cope with how terrible the hourly resets are

I'm constantly out of ordo dockets, though

[halcyon gust]

Every fucking time there's a decently high Base rating one. One of the big stats I want is the dump stat

[upper sun]

dont forget to change nexus 1 to terrifying barrage if you get a good perk on purple

[vestal fulcrum]

But it's a small price to pay to have a large item base

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, yeah, I know the strat

[upper sun]

yeah i knew too but forgot to do it twice 😭

best part about terrifying barrage is that you know your second blessing wont be terrifying barrage

[cinder moon]

finally got a half decent trauma and was trying out blazing trauma

the distance for m2 attacks sucks

[halcyon gust]

Hadron: Fuck you 2 terrifying Barrages!

[cinder moon]

voidstrike forever

[halcyon gust]

The range of the M2 attack is much larger than the charging circle shows

[cinder moon]

it goes into the air and air bursts at max range

[halcyon gust]

Unless you got a real shit blast radius one

[cinder moon]

if I want a cc staff I’ll just use purgatus

trauma not for me

voidstrike actually has some versatility

[halcyon gust]

Voistrike is great

Good damage. Solid range, deals with just about everything, ORB

[cinder moon]

plus my voidstrike is great

[halcyon gust]

Mine

[cinder moon]

very nice, sibling

[halcyon gust]

Same to yours

[cinder moon]

I’ve thought about changing the perks but never get around to it

[upper sun]

bruh

was that really your first nexus 4

[cinder moon]

yeh lol

[upper sun]

sick

[cinder moon]

I’ve had best luck with shop rolls and hadron on psyker, the other classes RNG seems to hate me

I spent millions trying to get a good plasma and helbore mk2

zealot I was plateaued on gear score for months

[upper sun]

yeah i stopped doing that after my deimos and hammer attempts

if i see something good in the store i roll it thats about it

[cinder moon]

my vet adventures were when I started buying only 10 at a time from brunt and coming back later if I got nothing good

[upper sun]

i got lucky with voidstrike and truama but im not gonna push it esp for classes i dont play much

my vet has a great shovel and two good guns thats enough

i dont have power sword money yet

if my game would load id post my plasma

[cinder moon]

this was me on vet after finally getting a good plasma

[lofty sluice]

Now, that’s a Psyker staff I ever saw

[upper sun]

ah UNLOCALIZED my favorite blessing

fucking why are char switching times so inconsistant

sometimes it takes 2 seconds sometimes 10 minutes

[halcyon creek]

Blame Nidhoggr the Net Serpent

[upper sun]

ITS STILL LOADING

[dim parrot]

lmao I would close the game at this point

maybe restarting fixes it

[upper sun]

sunk cost 😭

like i was saying

[cinder moon]

very nice plasma, roughneck

[upper sun]

thank

[cinder moon]

wait how come your charged attack is 1600 with a lower base rating and damage roll

[upper sun]

I have no idea!

[cinder moon]

did plasma get buffed again?

[tulip kettle]

max isnt 1600 afaik

[upper sun]

ye

[tulip kettle]

mine has 1680 on charged

[upper sun]

i also have this

[cinder moon]

wowie zowie

they did buff it

[upper sun]

looks like you have to update your meme

[cinder moon]

now i just have to rebuild my tree again for the THIRD TIME

[patent wing]

the loadup time for voidstrike is just so high sadly

[cinder moon]

i also got a better mk2 helbore at some point

[patent wing]

and its hard to hit moving targets at a certain range

and you need to aim for the heads which adds another layer of risk

[cinder moon]

just git gud

[patent wing]

trauma best staff ingame but it plays like shit

[cinder moon]

i have no problem using void

but i've been playing shooters for 20+ years

[upper sun]

what the fuck is this

why do i have this

[patent wing]

yeah one has to love void to learn how fast/slow the projectile is

but i dont like it, the playstyle is to slow

[cinder moon]

trauma sucks to use in comparison, especially since its long range capabilities are limited to LMB

[dim parrot]

because u wanted the blessing?

but forgot

[patent wing]

yeah but i can solo auric damnation with trauma but not with void

[upper sun]

i think it was an emperor gift

[rich spindle]

Void is just the wuake rocket launcher

Even comes out of the center

[cinder moon]

hmmm, no wonder i like it

[near bobcat]

I really wanna try and get a good trauma 3 staff soemtime

But a part of feels like the only cozy way I can play psyker outside of smite in damnation is my current assail build

[cinder moon]

i have yet to see a really good assail psyker in any of my randoms

actually i take it back, there was one in an auric earlier today

he actually knew how to use it precisely rather than just spamming

[halcyon gust]

I swear when I play Ogryn I get Assail psykers up the ass

[cinder moon]

it's because the director knows they need a hefty associate to help them out

[rich spindle]

I havent really used assail

[cinder moon]

i swear director frequently makes up teams based on one player being able to carry

no other reason for me to constantly get sub-30s and magdumping vets/zealots when i'm playing palpatine psyker

[halcyon gust]

Thanks for killing the horde I was smashing through to maintain my toughness...

As I was slowly working my to the gunners that none of you snivvlers haven't shot on sight

[upper sun]

I agree with this

i feel like i find less ammo the more psykers there are on the team

God forbid theres a vet that doesnt have survivalist

[halcyon gust]

And they shall be judge silently for

[upper sun]

silently?

[cinder moon]

if they keep doing that to me i just helicopter-ogryn them and make sure they can cast

that way when we take 40 minutes to complete the mission, they might think about why

[halcyon gust]

Do you really want to piss a Cadian off sibling?

You Don't piss a Cadian off

[upper sun]

when i play zealot yeah

[halcyon gust]

Zealot. Have at it

[upper sun]

but ammo isnt a big deal on either classes tbh

[halcyon gust]

Those fools are crazy enough to poke the Cadian bear

[upper sun]

no ammo vs no ammo? i go melee

[halcyon gust]

Fun times deciding to play gunlugger ogryn and you get no Ammo vets

[radiant frigate]

i never have fun times deciding to play ogryn

i take psychic damage when i play ogryn

[upper sun]

i never play ogryn or vet

[radiant frigate]

i should give zealot another try sometime

[upper sun]

i tried to slide through the smelter entrance area as ogryn then realized i cant wanted to quit the game right there

[halcyon gust]

Ogryn really shows just how damn important it is to have your team watch your ass

[main wyvern]

ever since i made a knife zealot i don't want to play any other class

i feel like i'm betraying my psyker

my main

[upper sun]

STAMINA

this bad boy can eat so much plasteel

i can pretty much tank an plague ogryn

[halcyon gust]

Imagine a April fools joke they gave Zealot Psykers's base Stamina with vet's old stamina regen delay of 1.5? seconds

[upper sun]

lmao id love that

for april fools i want a blaze shovel for psykers and a chain shovel for zealot

[radiant frigate]

how so

[halcyon gust]

I guess more of a side effect of my playstyle as ogryn being "Throw myself into a big ball of enemies"

And keep spamming heavies to maintain toughness and having a big HP pool to spend for risky plays

Which makes me quite open to trappers and dogs....And god I hate trappers a lot because of their nets ignoring the horde to get you

The number of times I got trapped by a trapper hiding behind a massive horde is just

[upper sun]

the net is bullshit

the second i had to reload 😭

[halcyon gust]

Every time

Ever better when you're just cooling down on Peril because you just hit the danger zone

[mighty cipher]

I GOT BLOODTHIRSTY!

MELK I WILL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT FROM ME! THANK YOU

[queen trout]

First recorded instance where the braced auto gun special attack would have been useful

[upper sun]

ikr?

would have been faster than going into melee

[mighty cipher]

I HAVE A FIRE SWORD FOR MY WILDFIRE BUILD

[upper sun]

fire illisis are mid

[lyric burrow]

yeah lol

rare instance where bash would have worked

melee push might have been safe too although it would have been really tight

[jovial juniper]

Relatable

[mighty cipher]

Shutup. It's cool

[upper sun]

🤔 ok but against flak the normal ones are better

[mighty cipher]

That's not even close to what I'm using though? I'm using a Bloodthirsty Blaze Sword

[near bobcat]

If I may ask, what IS proper assail etiquette?

I only spam on hordes then swap to melee, i right click on gunners

[mighty cipher]

Don't use it in low level lobbies. That's the only "Etiquette" to using it.

[upper sun]

if you see a zealot with low toughness kill whatever hes attacking

he will be very happy you saved him from danger

[mighty cipher]

That's general game sense. If someone is going ham on a group and isn't struggling at all, let them go at it and find something else to do.

[bold badger]

Yep, the emperor protects

[jovial juniper]

Easy to proc

[mighty cipher]

What?

What are you talking about

[dim parrot]

you're evil for that

as a new zealot coming from psyker, I feel the pain

[near bobcat]

died at the start of a hab dreyko because everyone kept falling off the ledge

wasn't the first one's fault, someone blew up a barrel that sent them flying

[upper sun]

i mostly quickplay auric and i got hab twice

[jovial juniper]

Easy to kill with special and activate the blessing

[upper sun]

lindron and harkon psykers carred fucking hard

i even got blown to a lower level with a pox burster

so i had to kill myself

[dusk void]

So you’re not one shoting snipers? Damn, I’m gonna die playing with you 😂

[coral cave]

ingame or?

[upper sun]

irl

currently dead

[coral cave]

ggs

[main wyvern]

guys when you hit something with uncanny strike, does the initial hit get the bonus rending damage

[upper sun]

door was locked and i was thrown a level below

[coral cave]

dont think so

[near bobcat]

oh no i get those damn snipers whenever i can

i look at it as a mix of smite and headpopper

if i have a horde of baddies in front of me i'll spam like 2-3, 5 or so if i have empowered psionics. If I have gunners or snipers nearby that my teammates can't get, I'll either aim on them or snipe them with a voidstrike heavy

Also I get to do this and it's better than sex.

i can confidently say i can clear auric damnation on my psyker and im really happy about it

[crude vortex]

I haven't been able to get far in one yet sadly

[cinder moon]

did you know their nets disappear when they die?

[upper sun]

FEAR

[flat nexus]

oh wait what

new skill ceiling learnt

[cinder moon]

also barrels are underrated as a tool against heresy

[rich spindle]

And teammates

[dusk void]

I can only clear auric heresy 😔

[radiant frigate]

tried zealot again
i sleep

[upper sun]

Zealot is great you can either be a massive damage dealer or tanky enough to do stupid shit like this

[buoyant maple]

No

[near bobcat]

if you can do auric heresy then it doesn't hurt to try auric damnation

[upper sun]

tbh theres not much difference

[radiant frigate]

what blessings do you put on your Big Chainsword™️

[upper sun]

I had one with wrath which was really good this one has momentum and something else i would rather have both on one

[pine carbon]

fixable? was thinking the blessings could be replaced

[radiant frigate]

i was thinking rampage/savage sweep

[upper sun]

momentum isnt recommended in any guide but i like it snice for two hits you get all your toughness back

[radiant frigate]

but maybe wrath better

[upper sun]

it looks good but id go uncanny for exorcist

mark 15 has good clear but i cant comment since i never got a chance to try those blessings

[radiant frigate]

i just feel like there is no weapon in the zealot toolkit that i like

[upper sun]

I only tried mark 15 and iron hammer since i got good ones

i do have a good knife but i'm not that guy

[radiant frigate]

thunder hammers feel rather lacking in horde clear

knife feels like it's a meme

[upper sun]

the heavy attacks have fantastic clear

[radiant frigate]

do they, or do they just launch the horde

[pine carbon]

couldn't be farther from the truth (unless you're a bum at using them, which most are)

[ornate hamlet]

why is the trauam staff bvetter than the purga staff? 🤔

[radiant frigate]

purg stinky

[upper sun]

with like 1 stack of thrust they die

[radiant frigate]

what's actually good about it, as a weapon i mean

[radiant frigate]

right, i have never once had thrust

[pine carbon]

Single target damage, crit stacking, bleed spam on zealot

[radiant frigate]

thrust slaughterer sounds like it might be a case of hehe

[pine carbon]

The Mk 3 knife and the Mk 2 Thunderhammer are unrivalled at their roles

[upper sun]

thrust is pretty much mandatory for hammer thats most of its damage

[pine carbon]

On psyker... the knives are very eh imo, its strange to find yourself behind enemy backs

[radiant frigate]

i don't much care for the crucis role

[pine carbon]

but on Vet and Zealot they have perfectly uses

[radiant frigate]

what about sweepy knife

[pine carbon]

Mk 6 is kinda weird

It can do the mk 3's job through push attack spam, I think the heavies have cleave value? It's better at dealing with hordes than the mk 3, but not ideal

[radiant frigate]

i tend to stay away from knives because i expect a bit of everything-clear from my melee

[pine carbon]

That's fair, general all rounder on Zealot is probably the heavy swords

[radiant frigate]

don't the heavy swords have godawful armor damagw

[upper sun]

yeah but heavy attacks are good

[cinder moon]

that only worked because you had overshield and then the ogryn dropped a nuke 😂

[upper sun]

thats irrelevant

but yeah my plan was to take enough aggro for my ult to go off cooldown

[frail harness]

This is why you run chastise

Plus the special attack is pretty good

[frail harness]

Push attack is excellent, plus movement tech with the heavies. Also super long dodges

[rich spindle]

zealot-class

[worthy briar]

how is columnus with inexonerable judgment on a stealth zealot

[halcyon gust]

The rare Melk W

[main wyvern]

i'm 0-2 in auric damnation solo queue

[halcyon gust]

It happens

Once had a streak of 5 wipes in a row

[upper sun]

yeah same

i went 0-5 in regular then 2-0 in auric

[near bobcat]

I've been 5-2 so far

[torpid girder]

It also gets deleted when staggered so abilities like chorus/taunt/VOC or just shoving/shooting and hitting them can be done to save u or a teammate from nets 👀

the best part is after you interrupt them when they start firing their net it counts as them actually firing it so they have to run away and reload

[jovial juniper]

That discord notif

[torpid girder]

lolll ya sorry about that i didn't even notice XD

[cosmic sigil]

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I NEED AMMO

I NEED AMMO

[upper sun]

nah you're supposed to alt tab right there to check it

[jovial juniper]

Just put the shield down and go check

[worthy briar]

yeah ima stick to revolver

I tryed autopistol and colum they dont feel that great for what i need em to do

I know colum is really good

[cosmic sigil]

i never do high rpm guns if i go right

i like the armor downgrade of chastise

so yeah revolver or bolter

[potent echo]

Columnus IAG has high finesse, so you need headshots or crits

Autopistol doesn't care, which is why it's poopoo

[untold niche]

does graia iag have high fin too?
More fun to play iwth because need to / can headshot

i don't like column iag

[spice veldt]

yeah all IAGs should have the same finesse values

just that columnus has higher ADMs up close

and a crit string of 4 instead of 3

[untold niche]

i feel they could make it so that the aoe suppression is based on headshots/bodyshots
CIAG have same damage and crit string but easier suppress in terms of no need aim head and maybe less shots to suppress

[spice veldt]

i'd rework suppression to being a simple inaccuracy thing for enemies like it is for players

instead of just being the stupid cowering on/off animation that it currently is

[untold niche]

that not good, that mean shotgunner suppression doesn't matter

[spice veldt]

that makes sense at least since they're close ranged anyways

and they're not a threat if they're pelting you at a distance where suppression is going to matter

[untold niche]

also with cowerin animation its more obvious

yes it makes sense but its a balance thing.

[spice veldt]

shotgunners also don't really get suppressed in my experience

they just shoot until they die or get staggered

and shotgunners are one of the enemies in need of a buff

they appear in patrols of 10-20 and are still not a threat at all

[untold niche]

i want gunners tone down slightly in terms of blob size and like u say shotgunner should chunk heavier

gunners shouldn't be doing more damage than shotgunners just imo

shotgunners have distinct sound que

you deserve to get chunked if you get hit by them

because ot my knowledge they shoot in sync as well

[spice veldt]

shotgunners strafing (walking sideways) instead of just walking in a straight line into you would also be nice

cuz it's so easy to just kill them with ranged weapons before they are ever a threat

and in melee, you can just spam dodges/slides

[untold niche]

they do, just that they close distance, so most of the tiem they walking towards you

if you notice after they reach like 2 meters or sumting they start strafe

[spice veldt]

yeah though that's also the distance where they can get trivially melee locked

so i've basically never noticed it since i just whack their asses if they get close

[untold niche]

melee locked after 1 sprint slide and 2 steps

:p

[spice veldt]

😔

[untold niche]

because you pro gamer

[cinder moon]

KILL THE GUNNER

[untold niche]

not average like me

[spice veldt]

unironically bring back the days when shotgunners two shot you

[untold niche]

failing from success

[spice veldt]

(and reduce the # of shotgunners)

[untold niche]

i think shotgunners should chunk you ya

and i hope they tone down gunner damage abit

or blob size

like most of the time they are doing the most damage

kind of weird.

tbh im sure overall they do most damage, due to how frequent they spawn

[spice veldt]

fatshark buffing gunner damage in patch 13 but not shotgunners (or maybe they did and it wasn't enough)

[untold niche]

i think if you swapped every rager for gunner and vice versa it would be a funny time

12 rager run at you after every connecting hallway

3 gunners shoot at you on defence every wave

bro

i solved it.

[supple sedge]

Want to have new clothes

Inpatient

[hollow current]

man i thought surge staff horde clear was a meme. I just ran into one

[spice veldt]

so true

[spice veldt]

they're gaming

[untold niche]

surge staff is basically revolvo bro.

[spice veldt]

it's not old surge staff so i'm fine with it

[supple sedge]

Ogryn Gaming

Ulgo too tired goodnight little ones

[hollow current]

nighty night Ulgo

[lyric burrow]

dont you know old surge has uncontested horde clear

[untold niche]

how was old surge like

was it actally

[spice veldt]

my 100 rants about surge psykers

[untold niche]

horde clear

staff

[lyric burrow]

no not at all

[spice veldt]

basically just current surge but worse damage except against flak/carapace and with more targets hit

[untold niche]

seem betteer

[spice veldt]

i brought old surge into a melee maelstrom and was immediately saddened

[untold niche]

[lyric burrow]

it was basically what smite is now but bad with slightly more damage to some armor types

being flak and cara

[untold niche]

mean, elites and specials are alot of flak and cara
I believe 1k specials that are neither would still die in 1 shot i.e snoiper and bombur

[spice veldt]

bombers were maniac back then

i don't think you could one-shot them if you didn't roll a crit

the surge staff had <1x adms against anything that wasn't flak and carapace

and it had a sharp damage falloff with each target hit

[lyric burrow]

i also dont think it chained as fast as it does now

[spice veldt]

i have had a burster sent into me by old surge psykers on two separate occasions

oh yeah that too

[lyric burrow]

like chaincasting wise

[spice veldt]

it was one of the slower charging staffs iirc

[lyric burrow]

ye

[spice veldt]

between voidstrike and the higher end of trauma

[lyric burrow]

all it had was quell cancel m1

which kinda worked with flayer

but had decent base damage too

[dusk void]

I am not playing with underlevel randoms on Auric Heresy Missions 🤦‍♂️

[mighty olive]

yeaaah, i was in a horrible game with a lower level, of course grouped with someone so we couldn't kick

died so much, i kinda gave up >_<

[cinder moon]

just gotta say, without running true levels, i'd assume you were a new 30 based on the portrait

[potent echo]

Auric heresy

[untold niche]

I think as much as we complain about difficulty, im glad we don't have helldivers devs/community

• game clearly unbalanced
• but if you can't clear it then obviously the difficulty not meant for you!!!! wHy dO PeOPle wAnT tO pLaY SoMEThiNg TheY can't CleAr

[eager mantle]

Nah damnation should be harder. Hard difficulties should be hard. But I guess the issue is more that Darktide has meh rewards so it pushes you to the higher difficulties just to make the time worth it

[worthy briar]

I was playing a new charicter that was level 17, joined a quick play heresy mission and the 2 orgryns kept going down. I got 6 revives that game. its not even that they where low level, one was lvl48 and one was lvl77.

[spice veldt]

that stance on difficulty seems fine

esp since there's 9 difficulty levels to work with it seems

[potent echo]

I think it's just that HD2 it's not rewarding to sweat, darktide you can do solo carry if you good enough so it feels good to get better

[hollow current]

The combat/strategems aren't bad in HD2 but it doesn't feel compelling to return to or grind out all the warbonds

Whereas Darktide I'm bouncing around like a chimpanzee with a sword in one hand and a machine gun in the other

[untold niche]

It was rewarding in hd1,
I already found it amusing how come so many people loved it on launch when I felt the game was unbalanced as fuck and hd1 was more fun

Like come on I empty 2 mag of machine gun into charger backside and charger not dead...

[potent echo]

The backside being so tanky don't make sense to me lol

Also trying to snipe hulk head but the uneven terrain make it wobble up and down so annoying

[untold niche]

Ya, I was using Machine Gun, as in the strategem weapon
There were like three running about and orbital was inaccurate. We lost lol. I think this was on hard only.

And as everyone knows by now, that's must includes in your loadiut like railgun.

[untold niche]

Its more the community defending the game when people are asking for balance changes saying you could just play an easier difficulty

[spice veldt]

oh it's more nuanced balanced changes then yeah

[wooden edge]

did psykers get even squishier or have i just not played in a while

i s wear im dying faster than before

[crude vortex]

they're squishy already, might help to share your build

see what's up

[potent echo]

Don't think there are any changes besides the major shakeup on p13

[magic kayak]

I don't know how to feel about this one

mobility is super low so I might just use for the uncanny strike iv since I haven't unlocked yet

[crude vortex]

good as a holdover for now until you get something better if you don't have one better anyway imo

that mobility will hurt though

[magic kayak]

yeah and I'm not a big fan of this moveset

[crude vortex]

It's a very sweepy sword compared to the Obscurus, I generally use it for cleave

[zenith vigil]

good on gunker? 😄

[magic kayak]

yeah I could see it really would do great wave clear

[potent echo]

Ofc

You want dumdum

Perk can be flak/anything

[radiant frigate]

no

[potent echo]

Unyielding if you really hate bosses and gryns

[radiant frigate]

hold up, why do laspistols have "between the eyes"? i thought they were supposed to be suppression immune

[potent echo]

They just suffer less from suppression

[radiant frigate]

agony

[potent echo]

Also their hip fire is much more accurate than iLas so you shouldn't worry too much about suppression

Just makes it hard to aim at snipers if you are being shot at

[zenith vigil]

replace between the eyes with dumdum? 😄

[potent echo]

Sure

[zenith vigil]

thanks

[solemn sluice]

god i wanna build a meme build

[potent echo]

Autopistol smite

[zenith vigil]

don't let your dream be dream

[rigid sky]

It's our best antihorde weapon and with Uncanny it kills Crushers OK too

With DD stacks you can oneshot a mutant with an unpowered heavy which feels broken as hell

[radiant frigate]

unpowered?

huh

[rigid sky]

Might be SG and DD for unpowered, can't remember

[radiant frigate]

might be but then you're using SG (perilous)

[eager mantle]

SG/DD Void gaming

[radiant frigate]

SG has the problem of "sometimes i forget i had SG running and then i explode"

[rigid sky]

Good times

[radiant frigate]

skull issue

[rigid sky]

Yeah I'm not incomparable-minded enough to run that with a staff

[radiant frigate]

staff? i may just accidentally power up illisi

in the exact moment it hits 100%

[rigid sky]

That too

Or 1 too many assails

Because I hate reloading during SG

[eager mantle]

At 20s of SG..."do it, throw the assail shard or 2. Do it. You have an incomparable mind dontcha?"

[stuck sinew]

Can have a little shards, as a treat

[radiant frigate]

SG surge

💀

[eager mantle]

Let the warp flow

[radiant frigate]

cursed weapon that blows your mind and summons daemons (they are not friendly)

[eager mantle]

Brunt: hehe watch this

[zinc phoenix]

Rogue Trader RPG has psykers accidentally summon demons in combat if you go too hard on warp goofery and it’s great

I had a bloodletter spawn in and gut two characters before I could do anything, hilarious!

They should definitely add it to darktide, great mechanic

[halcyon gust]

10% chance of a sibling going pop summons a weakened monstrosity

[zinc phoenix]

Or even just like 1% or 0.1%

[halcyon gust]

1% work

[zinc phoenix]

Other wacky perils stuff like blood from the walls or zombies or whatever would be cool too

Idk, the game is doing too little with wacky warp shenanigans in my mind

[halcyon gust]

Let ogryns throw Psykers about to pop like a grenade

[crude vortex]

is it made of plastic

[radiant frigate]

made in china force weapon

[crude vortex]

Dollar store clearance force weapon

[jovial juniper]

Don't ever buy force weapon from the gas station

[zinc phoenix]

That’s how you get warporreah

[rigid sky]

Purganus

[radiant frigate]

asspurger's syndrome?

[rigid sky]

Voidshite

Ass-ail

Bowel rupture

I could go on

[upper sun]

did they make twins easier?

[jovial juniper]

Nope people got the hang of it

Also no mention of smite as shite or assmite

[upper sun]

nah not that i feel like less enemies are spawning there aside from the twins

[quartz barn]

They lowered the amount of elites that spawn

Also spawn less frequently

But this might be because the ai director spawned more elites back when the twins came out

So i guess its at its intended difficulty now?

I liked hm damn twins more on release tbh, rn its way too easy

[dim parrot]

the literal toilet bowl psyker head cosmetic

[near wyvern]

Purganus, Shite, Ass-Sail, Brain Fart, Voidshart, Trauma, (involuntary) Surge, what else

[upper sun]

i prefer voidshart

[near wyvern]

Tru less repetition lemme edit

[long wharf]

wow, this is the least active I've ever seen the server

Trauma = Childhood Trauma

[cinder moon]

lieutenant surge staff

[long wharf]

price surge staff

[untold niche]

Heresy actual hardest difficutly

more difficult than a5histg

totally not because i just keep running forward

[halcyon gust]

Pub Heresey is a treat

[fathom totem]

To be honest. Damnation is as bad right now. To many people from heresy seeping to damnation right now.

Had a guy who refused to play with zealots. First 2 min in and they man goes down.

[upper sun]

also psykers who refuse to pick up ammo crates and people who dont ask before picking up grims

[cinder moon]

every time i see a grim in a public damn i pick it up specifically to consume it

if you're doing melk's book club in damnation, gtfo

[fathom totem]

I remedy that with throwing them the stuff I already have and pick up the ammo crate myself.

[cinder moon]

3000 ordo dockets isn't worth me dying instantly because both of my wounds got corrupted