psyker-class

[mighty cipher]

The cap is for multiple players. All you need for a theoretical single player 33 stack is a tight shotgunner wave. But if you have two psykers it should be pretty easy.

[plucky flax]

[untold niche]

i remember reading before that blaze overrides someone else's source, or is that only for the damage tracking for scoreboard

[mighty cipher]

Something something, flame ownership, something something, determines buffs/kill effects, idk man.

[untold niche]

so does it stack? or will it override

[mighty cipher]

It stacks.

[untold niche]

how come i never see duos running both purg

[crude vortex]

one is good enough usually

[mighty cipher]

I’m pretty sure that Purg’s stack limit is based on how many stacks the enemy has.

You’ll get them to 16 twice as fast but no higher.

[untold niche]

can crusher die from 16?

o.o

how long to die

[manic lagoon]

I oneshot crusher

[mighty cipher]

Pffft. They would probably survive 33 stacks. Soulblaze doesn’t do shit to crushers.

[untold niche]

vulkan does blaze decay in stacks?

[untold niche]

thats unbeliveably sad

[mighty cipher]

It takes some time but once stacks start dissipating it drops pretty fast.

[untold niche]

im wondering how long does it take for a purg player to kill a crusher
because with purg the crusher will be on a constant 16 stack right, since it will keep getting refreshed

[mighty cipher]

Not really. It would be kinda stupid if soulblaze could burn through armor that well.
We don’t consider weapon swapping when talking about balance.

[mighty cipher]

Still takes awhile. The direct damage on the flamethrower is….. not great. You’re better off switching to your melee if the crusher is your o my concern.

[untold niche]

so sad, i wonder why boodendorf is a purg main

[mighty cipher]

Cause it’s fun to pick a direct and turn it off.

And full sending into a crowd and watching your peril down is top notch satisfying.

[untold niche]

hmmmm

but have to swap alot right

swap to assail, swap to melee

[mighty cipher]

No

I will for picks but usually you just AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA into a horde and watch it turn to ash.

[untold niche]

how u kill gunner den

[mighty cipher]

Let the other guys handle them

You got teammates for a reason

[upper sun]

do we?

[untold niche]

those are just potential plasteel pickers

sometimes they don't even pick plasteel

[mighty cipher]

I deal with literally anything in melee distance and you kill anything shooting at us.

[upper sun]

key word is potential

and then they ping spam you for going to pick it yourself

all i want is solo play 😭

[untold niche]

i can't handle not being able to handle threats in this game
you are so wholesome valkan

vulkan

but have to admit they ae better than bots

[upper sun]

ideally you're supposed to plan in pre mission "hey vet deal with the crushers ill clear zealot pick up plasteel and deal with disablers"

[upper sun]

not always

[untold niche]

u talk in pre mission?

[rotund fable]

I dont know why people say Voidstrike + Assail is mid... it lets me push lots of buttons rapidly, thus satisfying my ADHD, while also letting me efficiently kill everything in my range of sight.

[upper sun]

i try bit no one responds

[untold niche]

overall :p

[mighty cipher]

Oh yeah, the Quickblast stuns anything that isn’t an ogryn. So just puff puff puff and blow them all down.

[upper sun]

i eventually gave up

[untold niche]

but gunner far

[mighty cipher]

Not your problem.

[untold niche]

because whatever you can shoot with your assail you can shoot with you voidstrike

[untold niche]

so wholesome
If i don't deal wit hit i get 12 gunners shooting at me, if i wall aboos then team doesn't move assuming i don't kill them

[buoyant maple]

no

[untold niche]

hello mr catto

[buoyant maple]

carapace has very low dmg modifier for DoT

u need rending for them to hurt carapace reasonably good

[mighty cipher]

I have BR for ”That guy” targeting so either movement god it up or bust out ye olden deflector IV 86% block efficiency and make them not far away.

[untold niche]

do you know how long crusher die, if you maintain the 16 blaze sack

[buoyant maple]

a few minutes, probably?

[untold niche]

gobbles

[mighty cipher]

It’s not that bad.

[untold niche]

not assail?

[buoyant maple]

just bring a deimos/ds4 if ur gonna take purgatus

[mighty cipher]

Too far on the other side. Plus you don’t get wildfire if you take assail.

[untold niche]

make sense

but bb take forever

i can't imagine bb 12 gunners

[mighty cipher]

That’s Tuesday

[buoyant maple]

it's like 65 dmg per tick, smth like that

[untold niche]

i rather just run in and try to melee them then die

then at least i can alt tab and do something else

[buoyant maple]

on carapace

[untold niche]

[mighty cipher]

It’s about 40ish seconds.

[untold niche]

that seems like a decently long time.

[mighty cipher]

It is

But that’s also while you’re killing everything else around them.

[untold niche]

but by then the 3x crusher will have booped you

[mighty cipher]

It’s not great and you should definitely switch to something that can deal with them but if you need to keep to the defensive than they will die eventually

[untold niche]

if you hold down purg, does it apply a tiny knockback like automatic rifles

[mighty cipher]

No

[buoyant maple]

Not against crushers

[rotund fable]

With purg's alt/charged fire, it mainly just spits a stream that applies more soulblaze stack at a faster rate than mouse 1.

[untold niche]

they should give it that man :(

make purg slightly better

i think that would be good

[mighty cipher]

It’s doesn’t have knockback but it will stunlock anything less than a Rager that’s in the main stream.

[untold niche]

so it will tiny knockback rager like auto rifles shooting the rager?

[mighty cipher]

Purgatus is in a perfect spot imo. Doesn’t need buffs and if anything the puffs need slight nerfs.

[rotund fable]

You can stagger pretty much anything below rager with just the mouse 1, and if a bulwark's shield has been broken you can perma-stun them

[buoyant maple]

Actually no I stand corrected it’s 16 dmg per tick at 16 soulblaze vs crushers

Without rending

[mighty cipher]

Fucken Kek

[buoyant maple]

So yes a few minutes is a more realistic estimate

[untold niche]

damn

[mighty cipher]

That’s if you let them die to just the DOT

[rotund fable]

Diemos force sword with uncanny strike 4 is a good meele option for a purg staff build

[buoyant maple]

Just bring a Deimos/DS4

And melee them

[mighty cipher]

The stream won’t do much but it’s better than 16 per tick

[untold niche]

so only on trauma and void you can hold your staff 99% of the time

[mighty cipher]

Blaze Trauma and void are both broken as hell.

[cinder moon]

who tf is relying purely on wildfire for killing crushers, it’s there to apply additional damage and spread to all the trash mobs

[mighty cipher]

We where talking about the purg staff

[cinder moon]

that’s what melee is for

[untold niche]

I concince myself irs not so I can pretend I'm decent at the game

[rotund fable]

Surge staff can be effective... assuming the mission doesn't have nurgle-blessed enemies...

[mighty cipher]

I don’t think that’s something to hold against it. Generally

[rotund fable]

It's really not, but i've seen a lot of people write the staff off because "Nurgle blessed enemies exist as a mission modifier"

[mighty cipher]

It’s not even that bad. You want to know what really gets shafted by blessed enemies? Brain Rupture. Nukes all of your breakpoints and you don’t even get to stun them.

[rotund fable]

Yep

[untold niche]

Wait, why surge inreract badly with nurglr?

[buoyant maple]

Surge’s main breakpoint is full charge 2 hit kill any human sized special/elite

[plucky flax]

Me solo clutch with surge against nurgle blessed
https://youtu.be/J8JgIjm1FOI

[mighty cipher]

Surge staff is usually really good at popping elites, being able to oneshot almost anything on crit. Double their health and that’s a massive problem. It’s also good at locking down anything that would’ve survived due to it smite zapping them when it goes to do damage. Blessed enemies will facetank right through the stun so all your left with is a gutted staff.

[buoyant maple]

Surge is probably your easiest anti-special tool

[upper sun]

two questions, 1) uncanny slaught? and 2) how the hell did you not wake the DH with smite?

[buoyant maple]

It charges up fast and 1~2 shots all human sized elite & specials

[plucky flax]

Slaughterer deflector. Smite has short jump range the dh was far away. Even so this was old patch and dh doesn't kill if it's last man standing

[upper sun]

they really need to bring back the dh thing

[mighty cipher]

I don’t think they removed it?

[untold niche]

With nurglr that's no longer true?

[mighty cipher]

Blessed enemies are DRASTICALLY tankier

Like, BR consistent fails to 2 shot ragers and gunners tanky

[untold niche]

Then how come people say surge bad because BP change due to burgle when everything else BP will lchange to

I'm not mistyping nurgle as a joke btw

[mighty cipher]

Because that’s a complicated idea and that no good

In fairness though, it’s definitely something to consider when picking what build you take when doing maelstroms.

[untold niche]

I think its cause other staffs provide something, and surge only provide fast kills, which in nurgle isn't that much effective anymore

[untold niche]

Void work for all ezpz

[buoyant maple]

Nurgle’s blessing changes enemies’ health & stagger values

So u don’t have the same breakpoints anymore

[untold niche]

Ik about stagger

[plucky flax]

Can't stagger green bois with surge and trauma.

[untold niche]

Didn't realise hp

[buoyant maple]

I think it’s some sort of %dmg reduction instead of flat +hp

Not too sure

But they can take more hits

[mighty cipher]

The HP was the first thing I noticed. Dogs not dying to BR can happen naturally but they survive a max power BR when blessed.

I honestly just assumed that anything smaller than a melee elite got 3x, maulers and ragers got 2x and ogryns got 50% more.

These numbers are from my ass btw so don’t hold them in too higher regard.

[untold niche]

I think nurgle enemies I just have to shoot one more time with void so it wasn't as uh, what's the word

I think some as long as I full charge I don't need to, but that's off memory

Like I think, I think burgle flamer, will die to full charge with max DD

Else it's just one more shot

[pine carbon]

Swear one of you was just in my game

Dude blew himself up with voidstrike + scrier's like 5 times

[upper sun]

it was me sorry

[silk vigil]

Gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.

[plucky flax]

No it was me.

[harsh urchin]

purg has tiny multiplier against carapace. you can test it out in the meat grinder and see.

[pine carbon]

Poor sod he was going through the motions, by 4th peril explosion he sounded like he wanted to uninstall

[harsh urchin]

but there's a trick to it

purg deimos can clear groups of crushers very easily with uncanny executor stack

[jovial juniper]

Not me, I use surge staff

[stone canyon]

Doing melee weeklies with Psyker and someone blamed wipe on me, meanwhile they rushed elevator through enemies and just expected we can handle em all without any help

Maybe i should just uninstall, or start playing Zealot and just speedrun stealth ahead and blame team when they die behind

[harsh urchin]

well 2 issues lol

first is that he's in the fault for blaming other people for a wipe

second is that your build might be able to be improved if you're not able to handle enemies without help

[stone canyon]

He brought lvl 20 ogryn along with him, and got supersalty we wiped

[harsh urchin]

see now you're doing the same thing as he is and blaming someone else

[stone canyon]

Im just saying if you bring lvl 20 to Damnation with you, you make it harder for everyone else

[harsh urchin]

yeah but the game is pretty easy in general

from a self-improvement lens

if you're having trouble handling a pack of crushers/ragers because there's 2 useless people on your team

there may be ways to improve that matchup

[stone canyon]

Not everyone is 1000 hours in while already being god in Vermintide 2 before

Had this only couple months with very limited gametime

[harsh urchin]

I mean giving up is also fine too

but if you decide to go that path, i dont think blaming other people for a loss is fair

[stone canyon]

Im just pissed someone blames me after i told in beginning im doing specific weekly, so they started blaming i got some memebad build and then blamed it on me when wipe (which was their doing mostly)

Was running gun psyker but more focus on stabbing to get the weekly done

Game just has its occasional toxic elitist players, never had something like this in DRG for example

And with elitists in this case i mean its more their ego than their actual skill

[harsh urchin]

idk man

[plucky flax]

It's okay fren just take the L and retry.

[harsh urchin]

I think you're doing the same thing as these "elitist" players

[plucky flax]

My game is bugged and has all chat muted.

So it's salt free.

[upper sun]

if i see someone level 20 with grindy insignia and a nice border idc he can prolly do better than me

[harsh urchin]

as agent says, just take the L and move on, and look for ways to improve your own gameplay

instead of looking for people to blame

[plucky flax]

Me I blame myself for team's failure.

[stone canyon]

Think you missing the point and just being annoying at this point

[upper sun]

wow then you cant see me motivating everyone at the start 😭

[stone canyon]

It was them who blamed and thats what pissed me off

[plucky flax]

Yeah Idk what's wrong with my game.

Maybe others can see me t yping idk.

But I can't see my typing nor anyone's.

[upper sun]

its most likely one of the 40 mods you're using

[plucky flax]

I suspect it's a mod too.

I get too many errors when loading in and game is unstable af.

[upper sun]

🤔

maybe its time to reinstall and reduce the amount of mods

[pine carbon]

seems like a no brainer here

[plucky flax]

Never.

[stone canyon]

If you got Vortex for mods, maybe try updating em quickly through it, helped me after big patch

[pine carbon]

start from scratch n download updates

[plucky flax]

My current loadorder.

[pine carbon]

[plucky flax]

It's so good it got people asking.

[harsh urchin]

true level has been giving me some trouble lately

[upper sun]

vortex

VORTEX

[plucky flax]

I'm playing darktide 2.

[harsh urchin]

lots of error messages

[upper sun]

try using a mod man that isnt british bloatware

[plucky flax]

I'm british so it checks out.

[upper sun]

oh

im so sorry

[pine carbon]

bro got character wallets 😭 😭

[upper sun]

but seriously tho i tried that crap for f4 fnv and skyrim and it was utter trash

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's better now.

They poached the developer from mo2.

Although for bathesda games I'd still use mo2.

[upper sun]

yeah mo2 is fantastic

[plucky flax]

They also poached the developer of wabbajack.

[upper sun]

ohhh oh damn

[near wyvern]

No that's not allowed

[plucky flax]

It's a shame cos the vortex auto modlist installer is shit compared to wabbajack.

[ember solstice]

The 2 banes of my existence

They sneak up on me alot

[upper sun]

the weird thing is i can only hit headshots on maullers

[rigid sky]

I find dreg ragers scarier than scabs

Idk why

[plucky flax]

They uglier.

[halcyon gust]

The good old days where they didn't have voice lines

So they can sneak up behind you and give you a surprise overhead for the Mauler

Or turn you into ribbons in rager causes

[upper sun]

maelstrom reset soon what staff should i use purge/truama/void

worst 4 minutes of my life inc LETS GOOO

[mental rock]

cast bullet

[upper sun]

I have zero good guns for psyker

[mental rock]

[upper sun]

oh fuck its lights out nvm

[crude vortex]

purgatus staff time

[spice veldt]

dreg ragers being harder to stagger 😔

[upper sun]

nah im switching to zealot

[radiant frigate]

didn't know there was a difference

[spice veldt]

you'll especially notice it when using brautos

flak ragers stagger from them trivially, but dreg ragers often just swing until they die or they're out of their combo and then you can stagger them

[plucky flax]

Weak.

(I have higher level on zealot)

[upper sun]

we made it to the bridge

[ionic cairn]

Brain rupture with empowered psionics:

[hollow jolt]

imagine getting hit

couldn't be me

[vernal blaze]

using voidstrike in a c i vi felt odd

idk if it was a damage issue or just how unwieldy it was in cqc

using this one

i have no idea what im doing with this but it looked not garbage so i ran with it

[halcyon gust]

Warp + Nexus is a nice blessing combo

You want to spam M2 as much as you can spam full charge M2s to the head

It'll stumble anything on a weak point from melee fodder to Monsters

And unlike the other 3 staffs. Orbs have some insane range to them capable of striking far away targets. Funny when you snipe a sniper 50m+ out

[cinder moon]

staffs besides purg all have the same range on LMB though, no?

[halcyon gust]

Yep

[cinder moon]

i often LMB snipers and gunners with the surge

[halcyon gust]

But Void can one shot that sniper while the others need a couple of strikes

[cinder moon]

true

[halcyon gust]

M1 shots will keep the sniper surpress so someone with a range weapon can deal with it or another pysker to BB it

And the Orb can go through teammates and most enemies so if they get in your way. They don't eat the M1 shot as you pepper the sniper

[wind spruce]

You don't need two people to deal with a single sniper

[orchid shadow]

If you're going to throw some lmb shots at a sniper, you might as well finish the job and nail them.

[dusk void]

Do you guys know what are the best blessings on a chainsword to defeat mostrosities? I got this from Brunt's Armory and Hadron didn't decide to screw me over

[harsh urchin]

So you actually may be better off with different melee than chainsword if you want a good melee for monstro

[buoyant maple]

Shred to rampage
Either perk to +25% flak

[wind spruce]

Or... you know... put unyielding on it if you want monstrosity damage lmao

[torpid girder]

The game wants me to play gunker...

[paper harbor]

Gunker alarm

[silver portal]

ayo

What is to gunker? Is it to play a psyker with a gun? NO. It is to fight the power. It is to step away from chaos. Tis not the emprah's will to use guns and swords to fight le demons? carry on my frens

[paper harbor]

?

[wind spruce]

What is confusing about what they said? They are clearly role-playing.

[paper harbor]

👍

[wind spruce]

Sorry for being an ass

[paper harbor]

You’re not

[untold niche]

Is present state player builds too overpowered, or past state player builds too underpowered

Tap head

[agile owl]

does charging the staff only increase the size of the blast or does it increase damage as well?

[radiant frigate]

past state underpowered (no, not talking about you, brutal momentum)

and present state overpowered

[paper harbor]

Trauma or voidstrike?

I think both does affect damage and radius

[worthy briar]

whats the current meta for psyker? havnt played in a bit

[paper harbor]

That’s up to playstyle

Depend weapon you use

[silver portal]

gunker

[untold niche]

both

[untold niche]

idk how will "normal" / balanced look like since i came in at p13

[mental grail]

Tbh i still use blitz

[silver portal]

lol what

[untold niche]

i deleted because i tot emmesh was typing

oh.

anyway

i just realized you can roleplay as gojo satoru on voidstrikke

[silver portal]

LAPSE BLUEE

[paper harbor]

Southeast Asia = SEA?

[untold niche]

yeah

[paper harbor]

What country

[silver portal]

nah id win

[untold niche]

no tell

[paper harbor]

Anonymity the internet should reveal people identity

China moment

[untold niche]

no understand

[paper harbor]

Internet shouldn’t be Anonymous and has to be reveal the user identity. Thus it is like China security.

[untold niche]

i like my privacy

🐭

[paper harbor]

Yeah world wide privacy right rather the China security

In the end government still lurking know who are you

They would hire hacker to track you

[worthy briar]

what are the combos for mk IV dueling sword

I found i can charge a heavy then then special attack 2 times quickly and stagger but im sure theres something better

[radiant frigate]

heavy special to the head if you want to stagger crushers

chained heavies if you dodge

lights on hordes but realistically you want something else vs them

[worthy briar]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1ZQZLHNUQHM-4O/d1337tJ2v4Hs?invite=cr-MSxlckIsMTk1Njg4MjM5LA

sorry jerma is in the backround

[radiant frigate]

why the light before the special

[worthy briar]

im doing heavy,special,special in that clip

[radiant frigate]

that seems like some kind of input lag

because it looks an awful lot like heavy light special

[worthy briar]

its not

🤷

its not that consistant

[radiant frigate]

idk seems pretty consistent to me

[worthy briar]

not what im talking about but yes that is consistant

[radiant frigate]

what is not consistent then

the stagger?

[worthy briar]

in the first second of this i heavy attack and 2 attacks follow quickly behind eachother and count as 32 damage

[radiant frigate]

they are resistant for a short time after being staggered

[radiant frigate]

that's because you don't have uncanny strike, and neither lights nor specials are particularly armor piercing

[worthy briar]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1ZRbaWU7A7i-Ti/d1337pb4kTET?invite=cr-MSxIdlIsMTk1Njg4MjM5LA

yeah it might just be the attacks bouncing off the armor hitbox so im able to attack sooner

[radiant frigate]

i still don't get what part you think is inconsistent

either way it most definitely looks like you have some input issue

with the random lights

[worthy briar]

thats from the armors sparks

[radiant frigate]

armor sparks don't cause you to randomly input a light attack

[worthy briar]

i ment the light emmiting from the sparks not light attack. this convo is stupid bye

[radiant frigate]

yes it is because you are talking about something else entirely

either way don't use lights on crushers

[orchid shadow]

I missed the dress code memo.

[main wyvern]

guys my mod load order should look like this for the scoreboard right?

[orchid shadow]

I have scoreboard at the top, animation events at the bottom

[main wyvern]

alrighty

[wind spruce]

Yeah that should work

[main wyvern]

this scoreboard is amazing

[plucky flax]

Tell me I'm from sea too.

[untold niche]

nice try, spy from the west

[plucky flax]

[untold niche]

[wind spruce]

It's pretty cool, when you're ready, also instill Ovenproof's Scoreboard Plugin. It has more accurate damage calculations and also let's you see things like how much Soul Blaze damage you did

[paper lily]

also power di

[wind spruce]

Why do you mind if people know what country you're from? Is it a security thing?

[plucky flax]

He's from Syria probably.

[supple ledge]

hello aneurysm video gamers, does the quell peril blessing work on voidstrike i could only find year old info on this

[mental rock]

Yeah and it always has

It doesn't work on the trauma right clicks though

[ivory path]

Praise the God Emperor

My trials are over

[untold niche]

noice

[rigid sky]

it works but since patch 13 it really isn't worth it imo

Unless you are not running venting shriek

since with venting shriek (and also warp rider and warp nexus) you want to be able to get your peril high, and transfer uncontrollably reduces it

[upper sun]

noice surge took me ~16 staves

then i found it at melks

[ivory path]

mine took a good 30-40k crafting mats

[supple ledge]

what would you reccomend instead

other blessing is flurry

current perks are 20% flak and unyielding idk if those are helpful

[upper sun]

brunt pls melee weapons

[halcyon gust]

That be a good Trauma Staff

[upper sun]

I have three good ones already

[rigid sky]

Warp Nexus is the must-take for voidstrikes

Second can either be Surge for more nuke power (you get to hilariously dunk on crushers etc), or Flurry like you have (more spammy which is great too)

but I prefer nexus/surge

[supple ledge]

and the perks?

[rigid sky]

Think you've got a lot of choices for voidstrike

The atheneum recommends any of:

Carapace, Maniac, Unyielding, Crit Chance, Flak

I wouldn't take crit chance unless you're running Surge

but idk

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 Pygex wrote this, it's a great starting point for builds, weapon crafting, etc

[halcyon gust]

When using Voidstrike try to aim for the head and charge shots can go through most enemy types

Only Muties, monsters, Crushers, and bulwarks hard stopping the orb if it is the first thing it hits

[rigid sky]

And have an answer for enemies that go wide, imo

Although with flurry to an extent that can be "just blast em" I guess

But i do surge/Nexus so I have to rely on assail and illisi a little more

[halcyon gust]

Nexus/Flurry for me

[rigid sky]

Yeah with that I would kinda expect that you can just nuke everything with the staff

[halcyon gust]

Just keep blasting

If something is not dead. It's likely on the ground getting up so you shove another orb into its face

[rigid sky]

That's what I meant by wide though

It's more about if you get like 4 ragers surrounding you or an arrangement of midrange shooters

[untold niche]

whats up winners

[untold niche]

i used to overshare alot, im pretty sure on one of the servers you can pinpoint me to around 40 people

40-120

wait no

im sure you could pinpoint exactly who i was

[untold niche]

you can ping me if you need void help
Thats the only thing i can help with

[untold niche]

isn't syria "East Asia" instead of SEA
Also maybe I am, better address me by my title, Prince

i would love to send you 2 million dollars, but first...

[radiant frigate]

mildly concerning

was it like "i live in this town and my job is XYZ and my family does ABC"

[upper sun]

🤔 im pretty sure syria would be west of asia

[untold niche]

my first name, organization, department.

[upper sun]

thats a very americentric view

[untold niche]

idk im going off google

and i would lump chia japan, mongolia, SK, taiwan, HK and macau together because they have similar cultures

[upper sun]

ye i know thats the convention

[untold niche]

i don't think syria share any culture with those

[upper sun]

but it really doesnt make much sense

"middle east" so what the hell is west asia?

[untold niche]

looks pretty west of asia to me

[plucky flax]

Yes. West asia. East asia is like japan and korea.

[upper sun]

yeah whoever came up with the naming scheme ist likely on the spectrum what with not being able to have outsider prespective

[plucky flax]

Middle east is like because that region is east of the middle of the world.

Probably.

[untold niche]

yeah

[upper sun]

middle is just subjective from the prespective of the on looker

its just a pc term americans made isntead of saying brown people

[untold niche]

i think you are thinking too hard, its middle of one of the most popular used maps and its convention
Im sure you could call north pole south pole and australia be pictured top left

that way west asia would be east asia

[plucky flax]

Because east = asia, and west = western countries, ya know.

So naturally the middle is that area of asia.

[untold niche]

people just agreed upon to use this map relative to earth.

[upper sun]

well most maps are made for navel navigation so size is a bit distorted

med sea would be a better middle point imo

[median elk]

Europe is west Asia in denial

[plucky flax]

America is just extremely west asia.

[untold niche]

china is center of world

[plucky flax]

Or super east of asia.

[untold niche]

the sun rises to shine on His pillow

[median elk]

Radical east Asia

[untold niche]

the earth rotates so that He can go to sleep

[junior linden]

https://youtu.be/xT6kblEmGGc?si=xoZMuQJ0ppWWptqQ

[untold niche]

idk, i think this is overextending.
in SEA there are people that is slightly darker skinned too, some may share culture but others are quite different

[upper sun]

TOO LATE DOXXED

you clearly live in the middle of the atlantic ocean

[untold niche]

you mean atlantis?

Ya

im percy jackson

i call the fish

have yu heard about the story of the dolphin

and her man

[median elk]

Aquatic life forms are very cool. Except mollusca. Fuck tham.

Total cephalopod death

[untold niche]

but escargot and squid very tasty

[upper sun]

dont let the french people catch you talking shit about slugs

[untold niche]

whats the squid that ryhmes with calamansi

[median elk]

I don't know

[untold niche]

calamari

cuttlefish, squid, octopus

pretty good

if cooked well

[median elk]

I have a tentacle phobia

Unironically

[untold niche]

but you don't eat the uh

i mean

doesn't look too much like tentacle, the squid one literally look like white rings

[median elk]

I get extremely uncomfortable by just looking at that picture

[untold niche]

what about this one

just imagine those are onion rings

but rubber

[median elk]

This one is just mildly disturbing

[untold niche]

how come

they just look like onion rings prefried

[median elk]

Upper left corner

[junior linden]

TASTYYYY

God I love calamari

[crude vortex]

Calamari is delicious

[junior linden]

It's got this fantastic rubbery chewy texture that's just so unique but so good

[crude vortex]

just enough chewy when done right and the crispy crunch got a dude feeling well again

[junior linden]

Yessss

[plucky flax]

Squid gud. Are you thai?

[rigid sky]

Question for gunkers!

Soulstealer and Quietitude. Yes or no to each/both?

I go with both of them, just wanna make sure I'm not falling into a noob trap

[plucky flax]

Do you use assail?

For guns I use assail + soulstealer.

[upper sun]

idk about gunker but i dont feel safe without either quietitude or warp exp on top of soul

[obtuse cosmos]

guys how do i do warp battery ,its so stupid

[upper sun]

surge and high intensity seems like the best bet but i only ever got to 190

[untold niche]

no tell
are you thai

[plucky flax]

No I'm Vietnamese.

[untold niche]

i ate the roll, it was with fried elephant ear fish, pineapple, some veggie, i liked it alot.
Went there last time to do community help for school

others did painting and me being stupid went to volunteer for cementing...

taught the students basic math and all was pretty fun

[rigid sky]

Yep :)

[rigid sky]

I'm more wondering about the soulstealer side really since Gunker uses less warp damage than the rest - but it is true that we still use Assail more than our guns anyway.

I guess I just need to get used to gunker being a lot more of a glass cannon than the other options and work on my melee game

It's kinda normal for me to the most prone to dying in a group

[upper sun]

tbh i stopped dying when i switched to zealot

if i die then my team is already fucked

its insane how much i can block

[plucky flax]

Use soulstealer then.

[halcyon gust]

Zealots are either the first or last to die. Never inbetween

[upper sun]

its true

had one knife/stealth guy while i was doing wounds

i was tanking shit and ulting like a mad man while he spent the entire game not taking a single hp hit

if you see a guy called mujahid with a white mask

hes the chosen one

[halcyon gust]

Had a Zealot name zappy in a HISTG. He was a bonker

Bonked any monster and Demonhost they saw

[upper sun]

😭 i tried so hard to get thrust 4 for my hammer but apparently that shit is unobtainable

[halcyon gust]

Nothing like seeing a Monster health going from "Full" to "Dead" in a instant

[zinc phoenix]

It’s honestly weird how absolutely busted op some zealots are and then you get the rest and they’re just carpets

[halcyon gust]

Zealot has probably one of the biggest skill gaps between them

[upper sun]

zealot tree is crazy most of the talents build on eachother very well

FS cooked hard for zealot

[halcyon gust]

Zealot has probably the most archtypes they can build into

[sterile glade]

When I play Gunker I mag dump into peoples faces until they die, I rarely ever get into melee unless its a horder cause I can just recoil control beam anyone in the head

I think crushers take half a mag with Gaze popped or something idk I havent tried it in Dam yet cause I dont really have a build on the gun

[tepid rock]

finally getting comfortable with warp quelling

at lvl 28 on my psyker

[jovial juniper]

Dodge slide, can't go wrong with it

[ornate hamlet]

does trauam staff rending shockwave 4 exist?

[untold niche]

time to peril edge

[tepid rock]

oh ive been weiirdly good at that

[tepid rock]

ive accidently gotten good at that by being bad at quelling

3 brain ruptures in a row before quelling

[rigid sky]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

And then another one after quelling for half a second

[stone canyon]

Im gonna take break from gunker after lastnight, getting told to off yourself because of build choice for weekly is bit too much

Wasnt in best state to take such feedback either, had mild concussion and still got nausea

I guess they wanted CC to compensate their bad playing and gunker didnt provide that

[ornate hamlet]

some people can be toxic for no reason sometimes

[thick valley]

Yea yesterday a guy threw a medkit on me after watching a hound sneak up on me

[pine carbon]

He left the hound on you?

[untold niche]

bro this is darktide
don'

don'

t take it too seriously

[thick valley]

Yes

[pine carbon]

LOL

[thick valley]

atleast we won

[untold niche]

[tepid rock]

YEP

haviing reload on a mouse button makes that EASY

[upper sun]

its ok ive gotten crap for some talent choices then gotten them recommended to me

99% of choices are usable

[rigid sky]

Some people just have a real hate boner for gunker

[upper sun]

theyre salty because theyre not that guy

[rigid sky]

And tbf we are squishy as shit but I'd always rather have a gunker than one of those bellends that treat the game as if it was single player and just abandons or griefs the team

And gunker does certain shit better than anybody else

[untold niche]

just show build, if people here say good then its good ezpz

[buoyant ore]

is there any type of fix for the visual psyker dome shield bug, it hurts my eyes and gives me a headache

[agile owl]

shards are so strong

i didn't like smite

[stone canyon]

I was trying this one out https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af048aa-5835-462f-9c6f-f684b7e924b7/gun-psy-build-i-top-every-single-scoreboard-with

Tanner trigger alert 😅

[upper sun]

you look like my next mistake

[hollow current]

I'm still too scared to hand Hadron the next batch of 5-8 MK IV's I have.

[rich spindle]

+15% sprint and exorcist incomign

At least none of the force sword blessings are like, super awful

[upper sun]

im too broke to roll it 😭

[rich spindle]

Lol

Im sitting at 15k too scared to roll for surge on void and lose it all

[upper sun]

i got surge from melk tbh

[rich spindle]

Good idea

[upper sun]

yeah just be lucky its that easy

[weary crane]

Imagine being called melk

[modern void]

hello friends would any of you be able to help me with starting with mods . i tried to follow a tutorial and it did not work i am getting strange errors

actually i found a place to ask ignore me

[wind spruce]

Bloodthirsty and blazing spirit are awful

[hollow current]

when blood thirsty used to be one of the best blessings.

[radiant frigate]

when was that

[hollow current]

when it gave 5 seconds of crits a year ago.

[radiant frigate]

5 seconds wtf

[hollow current]

It was only for force swords which was only the obscurus at the time.

It was amazing.

[radiant frigate]

makes me wish i had that in The Before Times

[hollow current]

I ony had it for two days.

[dusk void]

A mission should not take this long

[supple sedge]

Ulgo record is 54

[dusk void]

My teammates didn’t do the mission objective so they just kept killing

[supple ledge]

so question, i've been messing around with empowered smite a bit and i liked it more than i initially expected i would

but i cant really tell what the difference between lmb and rmb is

[torpid girder]

This is just sitting in the armory exchange? 👀

[upper sun]

good luck sibling

[upper sun]

anyone know whats the breakpoint for dodge limit on mobility stats for deimos?

65% is still 5 dodges right?

[hollow current]

ye. it's in the 50's I think

[lunar hollow]

force sword i think always has 5 dodges like knife

[hollow current]

Oh yeah they do lol. I just checked a 26% one.

5 dodges.

[lunar hollow]

used to be infinite 😔

[upper sun]

i got this sucker i figured it try to get it to purple at least

[hollow current]

worth one upgrade to see if you lucky versus. spending 500k to get one with similar stats yeah

[upper sun]

took me two weeks to get ONE usable base which became this

its worth a shot

[hot epoch]

Little miss skitarii eyes over here

[hot epoch]

Good stuff tbh

I hope it works

[slim hazel]

Hello, Psyker newbie here. I gotta ask. As someone who has no clue what he's doing, what's the 'easiest' power to get into using as a first time Psyker player? Cause I definitely wanna be primarily 'psychic' or 'magic' based, idk what to call it. Obviously I'll need specific stuff for some bosses but I just want something to ease myself into Psyker before choosing something else.

[silk vigil]

Had a match with ten deaths earlier. People kept joining, dying almost instantly, then proceeded to ragequit.

About the same length too.

[dusk void]

This was a Heresy HISTG and one person kept dying. You can tell who didn’t survive long

[upper sun]

38 vault zero deaths

is psyduck here? because that fucker was good

huh

@mighty inlet good job

[smoky wigeon]

Guys

I'm a ...yeah in a newbie psyker. What the heck am I using melee for to I melee hordes IM LOST

[near bobcat]

melk has a voidstrike staff with warp nexus! Hurrah!

[supple sedge]

Both good

[near bobcat]

My staff now has nexus and split charge, time for funny murder crits

[upper sun]

Deimos/duelling sword mk4 for single target damage illisi for hoard clear

[keen vale]

No easy buckets tonight

[upper sun]

gl

[keen vale]

So far every grim mission I've done has had the other grim carrier get yeeted clean off the map in all sorts of random-ass ways
It's kinda funny, honestly. 😆

[supple ledge]

complete X missions with no player deaths makes me want to cry

always an insta skip for me

[hollow current]

If it's one it's not too bad, usually.

[ivory path]

The first staff you unlock is Trauma, personally wouldnt recommend without good blessings. Few levels later youll get surge which definitely feels the most magey tied with purgatus IMO.

[hollow current]

3 can be miserable if you get a string of bad luck

[spice veldt]

(not recommended to use trauma at low levels)

the scaling on its stats is quite absurd

[halcyon gust]

I generally skip out on the 6 missions deathless unless I'm feeling lucky

1 or 3 missions. Yeah I'll throw it in the background

[crude vortex]

I wonder if grimoire missions are less miserable with a beacon zealot 🤔

[halcyon gust]

Yes to a extent

It'll counter the passive Grim corruption

[crude vortex]

Devious

[halcyon gust]

If you're dealing with Grims in general. Swapping to +Health Curios will be better if you run +toughness

If you only focusing on doing that to make Melk happy when 16 grims/Scriptures is on the to do list

[crude vortex]

hefty sum for them though

[halcyon gust]

I generally swap those out. Just not worth the hassle (constantly dealing with Corruption with grims or Scriptures eating up a slot that could be used for a Ammo or Med crate)

[silk vigil]

God damn

[near bobcat]

that man died for the emperor

again

and again

and again...

[halcyon gust]

And again

[near bobcat]

they must be from krieg

[halcyon gust]

Deathless missions are always fun when you have veteran players full into the Krieg bit

[keen vale]

lmfao it happened again 😂

Random horde, a barrel explodes
YEET
Somebody drops right off the map

[near bobcat]

that happened at the end of a hab dreyko for me last week

i think it downed like two of us

[patent jacinth]

What are the stats required for a Trauma staff?

[near bobcat]

teh ogryn ran over and grabbed su because there were zero heretics at teh time

[halcyon gust]

Blast radius, Charge time are the big 2 you want maxed out. FOllowed by damage, Warp resistance and quell speed

[patent jacinth]

Cool, thanks

[halcyon gust]

The range of the Trauma stomp is much larger than the circle shows

[patent jacinth]

Yeah it just deals about 20 damage

Still spreads fire when I eventually get it though

[torpid girder]

it deals 20 damage but applies 3 stacks of soulblaze anyways >:)

[halcyon gust]

Yep

[patent jacinth]

Outperforming a level 60 vet with a power sword with my grey mk4 dueling sword and grey trauma at level 19 is special

[halcyon gust]

Once you hit level 30

The Real game begins

[patent jacinth]

I’ve done that a few times now

[halcyon gust]

For your Psyker

Where you beg to Hadron to be nice to your weapons

[patent jacinth]

After I get good trauma build I am going back to zealot to get a decent shotgun

I need my kantrael warcrime stick

Then either to ogryn to finally cap one or vet for a basic point and shoot build

[halcyon gust]

I have 5 different Vet builds

[cinder moon]

I stopped playing vet after they reset all 5 of my builds for the third time

[dusk void]

Is it me or am I the only one that only plays one character (the psyker)

[halcyon gust]

It's nice to play the others so you can know how they play And the pain

[spice veldt]

i used to be exclusively a psyker main but that got boring after a while

[cinder moon]

I think it makes you a better team player when you understand how annoying certain things can be as a given class, like when someone steals a zealot’s melee target, or a psyker’s BB target/doesn’t cover the psyker while they’re casting so they get interrupted

[halcyon gust]

Ogryns blocking vet's shots

Which doesn't matter as much now due to most vets running Plasma and Revolver for example

[supple ledge]

i play pubs so unfortunately it usually ends up being impossible

we can have 3 people on top of it the whole game and all it takes is one goofy slipup from one person and i can't get it anymore

[smoky wigeon]

IM SO BAD AT PSYKER

i dont deal any damage to armoured units

or bosse

[crude vortex]

as a psyker with BB build I try to focus carapace and big things like bulwarks down for the team, followed by gunners, snipers, and bombers - the hiding lot

Smite is a fun treat for zealots

Assail is good horde clear and for sniping squishy things on the fly, kind of the middle man. I use it to free up other psykers or veterans who get stuck or focusing on far targets

[smoky wigeon]

sWAHT DO I DO

[upper sun]

read the psyker guide pinned in the channel

[crude vortex]

Brain burst with empowered psionics

[upper sun]

read it or i will delay the patch

[smoky wigeon]

UGH FINE

ILL READ IT

[crude vortex]

if you don't read it I'll draw my psyker in a maid outfit

[upper sun]

[smoky wigeon]

I DIDNT KNOW IF IT WAS OUT OF DATE

IM SO BAD

IM SO BAD AND DUMBN

[upper sun]

what zero patches do to a mfer

[halcyon gust]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[cinder moon]

rewatching this still burns me up

[halcyon gust]

At least the Helbore can go through a Ogryn with a full charge

But I feel that

I can feel the frustration

[cinder moon]

back then it couldn't, as evidenced by the fact i got bluehitmarker

and sniper lived

[upper sun]

trappers can shoot through hoards but we cant shoot through ogryns 😭

[halcyon gust]

Wish trapper can't shoot through Ogryn enemies at least

[tawny pebble]

warp nets have properties we can only begin to fathom

[upper sun]

PAIN misery if you will.....

[hollow current]

I just bricked 7 more MK IV's. I couldn't bring myself to give Hadron the godroll from Brunt tho so at least I have that.

[halcyon gust]

We love finally getting a good enough base weapon

And watch Hadron slowly brick it

[cinder moon]

this is why i only buy 10 at a time, then choose one for hadron to ruin

[upper sun]

i spent 2 weeks buying deimos i got one usable base that turned out ok

that was a brunts find

[cinder moon]

i feel that. it took like, 3 or 4 weeks for me to get enough ruined weapons with blessings to sacrifice

then i got a handful of really good rolls and largely stopped playing the lotto

[mental grail]

Is it just me or does wildfire purg kind fuck a lil bit

I may be crazy

[mighty cipher]

Wildfire is at it’s best with purg because soulblaze is like 99% of its damage.

[rotund fable]

Today my friend (who is a vet main) tried out the voidstrike, and proceeded to say "Oh, it's like a discount version of the plasma-gun"

[mighty cipher]

Bitch my whole existence is a discount version of the plasma gun. Leave some enemies for the rest of us please.

[rotund fable]

Was in an quickplay lobby and someone legitimately was complaining about something like this (guy was trying to do contracts) and the person who was killing everything said "Auric damnation is a DPS race, just kill them faster."

[mighty cipher]

Absolutely immaculate

I really wish that higher difficulties weren’t just ”Wipe them out before they can even leave the door” simulators. I want to be forced to at least try and maintain coherency.

I want to struggle

And high-end builds like BT and PP Vet ruin it.

[mental grail]

I generally just leave them

[tawny pebble]

i have no frame of reference because i'm scared of playing vet

[mental grail]

Have fun pal

[mental grail]

I don't play vet

I just pop in the vet channel

[tawny pebble]

ahh

[mental grail]

so I can understand how they play

[tawny pebble]

though maybe I'll give it a shot soon, I've finally dipped my baby toes into gunsker

[mental grail]

gunker scratches my gun itch

[mighty cipher]

Think of Plasma like a Voidstrike that always has max stacks warp flurry IV, is hitscan, and had even more cleave. It’s beyond broken.

[mental grail]

And still leaves me with carapace options with BB

[supple ledge]

purg is pretty epic

[tawny pebble]

excuse me what fuck

[supple ledge]

it was my everyday ride staff for a while

[tawny pebble]

it is surprisingly satisfying

[mighty cipher]

Plasma is genuinely game breaking and NEEDS nerfs.

[mental grail]

not having smite, bb or assail puts me off most classes I won't lie

[buoyant maple]

Plasma needs lower cleave

[mental grail]

I feel naked without

imagine needing ammo

[tawny pebble]

I strangely feel OK on my Gaze build without actively BBing most of the time

[buoyant maple]

Uncharged nerf cleave to 12, nerf ammo usage from 3 to 4 per shot
Charged buff ammo usage from 9 to 6

[supple ledge]

i tried out gaze the other night and i kept blowing myself up :(

[buoyant maple]

Smth like that

[mental grail]

I only bb for carapace enemies

Gaze is easiest on gunker

I've legit killed a monstrosity in under 10 seconds with gaze CIAG

[supple ledge]

gunker?

[mental grail]

Gun psyker

[tawny pebble]

yeah, even on an Illisi sword I kept failing to resist the urge to use the special

[supple ledge]

ah

[tawny pebble]

and then blew myself up

[supple ledge]

i still want a good illisi, my best sword rn is a deimos

[rotund fable]

I vaguely recall someone in the vet channel once suggesting a rework to the plasma-gun where the charged attack keeps the cleave but the m1 has it's cleave reduced to about the same as a helbore shot... but that probably wont happen.

[supple ledge]

i dont know if it's even good perks/blessings tbh

[mental grail]

Damage stim + gaze is legitimately terrifying

[tawny pebble]

I probably should run Catachan for horde clear, but duelling swords are so much fun

[mental grail]

wait a sec

[urban hearth]

i use BB with everything, to many situations that picking out certain specials whips ass

[buoyant maple]

Nerf to HB cleave is a bit much, I think allowing it to cleave 2 ragers is fine but it should be stopped afterwards

[supple ledge]

it is 80 in all damage stats tho

[rotund fable]

It's High Noon!

[supple ledge]

which is kind of epic

[mighty cipher]

Charge shot doesn’t need ammo buffs. To put it even relatively in line with what the Bolter has it would probably be something like 6/12.

[tawny pebble]

do you plan on special spamming?

[buoyant maple]

Charged shots are not very good rn, no point in using them

[supple ledge]

the warp res is 55, not sure if it's good for that

[spice veldt]

well, not good relative to lmb spamming

[tawny pebble]

which isn't necessarily bad at all

[spice veldt]

nerf lmb and keep the cleave with the charged shots and do some balancing around ammo/heat and there we go

[tawny pebble]

if you are an edge rider it's great

i think 3 strokes and you're at like 80%

[mighty cipher]

Once you hit the primary fire. The charge shots still have like 1600 BASE damage.

[supple ledge]

well, i do like edging

[buoyant maple]

Yea with a tremendous ammo cost and doesn’t deal with things you want to charge the gun up for that well

[mighty cipher]

Another change that would help is making it act like the bolter and having it be as heavy as it should be.

[tawny pebble]

what else is low? mobility?

[mental grail]

For Illisi

Flak Armored
Unarmored

Slaughterer
Deflector

[buoyant maple]

Nerfing it by adding jank is just a bad idea all around

[supple ledge]

mobility is lowest by far but i heard somewhere that it always has 5 dodges anyways?

i didn't actually check

[mighty cipher]

Making it weighty in the same vein as the bolter isn’t jank. It’s forcing you to actually commit to using the damn thing.

[tawny pebble]

this is correct

[supple ledge]

let me log on and i can give exact stats since i cant post pics yet

[buoyant maple]

Plasma gun already has “commitment” in the sense of blaze away & gets hot

[cinder moon]

the ammo economy is still bad, even though this is arguably the best plasma has ever been

[mighty cipher]

That’s not commitment. That’s incentive to keep it out.

[supple ledge]

did they buff plasma since i last played?

[cinder moon]

i frequently see vets magdumping plasgun into poxwalker hordes and hoovering up ammo, like, why

[supple ledge]

i mainly used it because revolver reloaded too much for me to keep up exe stance reliably

[spice veldt]

ammo doesn't even matter even with the plasmagun unless you're literally just spamming it every second

the ammo economy in this game is inconsequential even without survivalist

[cinder moon]

you have to be competent at vet melee to not be infringing on other gun users' ammo

[spice veldt]

you certainly don't because pubs don't even bother looting

there's ammo down sidepaths that people don't go down and there's also survivalist

[supple ledge]

half the time they dont bother with medicae lmao

[rotund fable]

I think it's kinda funny how this talk of the plasma-gun started because my friend decided to call the voidstrike a discount version of the plasma-gun after he tried it out for the first time...

[spice veldt]

and vet melee isn't magically different from other classes

[supple ledge]

gotta love seeing someone on their last wound walk right past the medicae and get sniped instantly

happens every other lobby for me

[cinder moon]

voidstrike > plasmagun

though i still enjoy plasma

[mighty cipher]

The scoreboard goes to peoples heads. And healing drops your score like a brick if you’re the only one doing so.

[cinder moon]

no scoreboard gang, i know i'm carrying without using it

[rotund fable]

The context of the situation is that my friend is a vet main who's never touched psyker in his life, and he just unlocked the voidstrike today.

[mighty cipher]

That is just objectively false but go off king.

[cinder moon]

the only thing plasgun does better is penetrating terrain, which is situationally useful

[supple ledge]

80% damage/finesse/first target
55% warp res
34% mobility

perks: 8% damage to specialists, 5% crit
blessings: slaughterer 3, riposte 4

haven't used either of my forge slots

[cinder moon]

shooting stuff through doors/map geo never gets old though

[supple ledge]

this is deimos sword btw

[mighty cipher]

It has better damage, cleave, target acquisition, and is faster on top of all that.

[cinder moon]

plasgun doesn't have venting shriek to dump all heat in 0.02s

[mighty cipher]

The only benefit voidstrike actually has is infinite ammo.

[cinder moon]

they're two sides of the same coin, i just prefer voidstrike

[mighty cipher]

Press F. It takes like 3 seconds and you can literally do it on demand.

[cinder moon]

3s > 0.02s

[mighty cipher]

On demand >>>>>>> 30 second cooldown.

[buoyant maple]

I think the charged shots being lower ammo while the uncharged shots being higher ammo is a decent tradeoff

Right now for the same 9 ammo, 3 uncharged does more dmg than 1 charged with better dps & no risk of blowing up

If uncharged uses 4 per shot & charged uses 6, you’d have 3 uncharged or 2 charged for the same 12 ammo spent and there’s a more reasonable tradeoff there

I do think uncharged needs lower cleave, can be adjusted for 2 rager cleave for a patch and see how it goes, then if it’s still too strong it can be dropped to like 5 or 6

Even if you nerf uncharged’s cleave and ammo usage (and not touch charged shots at all), there still isn’t enough reason to justify using charged shots besides wallbang exe stance memes

[cinder moon]

if you're not using psykinetic's aura, what are you doing

elite/special kills make cooldown go brrr

[mighty cipher]

Honestly? I vibe with it. Efficiency VS Speed is always a fun dynamic.

[buoyant maple]

I also have the hot take of nerfing plasma bodyshot dmg but keeping headshot dmg the same but then people would prob complain abt “omg another finesse weapon”

[mighty cipher]

You get the point though right?

[cinder moon]

like i said earlier, they're two sides of the same coin

[mighty cipher]

Actually just a skill issue.

[mighty cipher]

Mate the only reason to use voidstrike is because you’re playing psyker and not vet.

[supple ledge]

so wait are you saying that plasma gun is now the javelin of this game

[spice veldt]

it'd be a more situational thing but nevertheless there would be a situation where'd you want to use the RMB if the LMB's cleave was nerfed since you'd use the RMB for high density scenarios then

RMB having the identity of the charging piercing shot makes sense to me

[rotund fable]

Voidstrike has access to talents that guarantee crits, and a blessing that lets you literally double up on those crits... and talents that let you become immune to snipers for a few seconds on crit...

[mental grail]

Voidstike is literally playable with 3 synapses

it's so good

[mighty cipher]

And plasma isn’t?

[buoyant maple]

The difference is, I’m pretty sure ogryn enemies block cleave from both uncharged & charged shots

[mental grail]

Yeah but you gotta play boring ass vet

No thanks

[spice veldt]

only carapace

[buoyant maple]

So using charged would be mainly trying to snipe elites through horde

[spice veldt]

and there are enemies besides ogryns

[rotund fable]

Not saying that at all

[spice veldt]

sure crushers and bulwarks stop it dead in its tracks

but there are other enemies that pop up in massive densities and frequently at that

[mental grail]

I want to fry people with lightning and shoot darts through their faces, thank you

[buoyant maple]

Yes and that should be when the decision between charged & spam comes in

[spice veldt]

ye

[rotund fable]

I really wish i could grab psykinetics aura without being locked from assail...

[mighty cipher]

Behold, game balance.

I still think that these skill trees are some of the best designed I’ve ever seen.

It’s actually insane

[cinder moon]

forget assail, embrace BR/smite

[spice veldt]

though psyker's being one of the worse trees since you get locked out of stuff and there's practically less permutations than the other classes

[mental grail]

I just run EP with my assail

pretty cracked

[spice veldt]

and sharing the same problem of the other trees of having some good stuff that's concentrated in some area

[mental grail]

I still want PA

[mighty cipher]

I think that’s fair given how build defining a lot of these talents are.

[mental grail]

but it will suffice

[spice veldt]

yeah i don't mind lockout mechanics

[rotund fable]

Eh... debatable when you think about zealot having Loner as an aura and ogryn being as railroaded into certain paths as he is.

[spice veldt]

the problem is just that it's generally applying and psyker's tree just loses out on a lot of permutations because of this

[buoyant maple]

Would u rather have locked out paths or 3 point travel tax

[spice veldt]

psyker's skill tree has the gimmick of having no point penalty for going sideways but locking yourself out, and i don't consider this tradeoff particularly fun

[spice veldt]

yes i know

but the permutations is still too limited and there's certainly a better way to go about it, esp since the talent distribution of talent trees can be better than it is currently

and either way, if you're going to make the 2 point travel tax, that's a decision that you ideally make such that the tax is worth it to switch sides

[cinder moon]

a lot of nodes should just be class passives

why play vet if you're not going to be able to supply nades to your brogryns

[mighty cipher]

Warp rider

Also, at what point do y’all start getting anxious about your peril? Cause it seems to differ from person to person.

[cinder moon]

97%

[spice veldt]

i'm fine with field improv being a talent besides the fact of it being a strong pick for 1 point

[mental grail]

100%

I currently run gunker

Only time I use my blitz is for crushers really

So most peril comes from scryers

[rotund fable]

Once i hear the 'max peril' audio cue, i back off to quell... but when i get to about ~95% i watch myself

[cinder moon]

i mostly play full lightning with venting shriek anymore, unless i'm running dueling sword/voidstrike for fun

need to rebuild my gunker to get rid of bubble

[mighty cipher]

More specifically, when do you start actually reading the number instead of just ”I feel like I’m somewhere around the 70s. No need to check just yet”.

[cinder moon]

when it gets big and red

[spice veldt]

i have it moved near my crosshair and with more customized color grading to make that decision for me

[rotund fable]

I track my peril by color of the numbers and audio-cues mostly, once it hit's the point where the edges of my screen darken, i slow down, and once the purple tendrils appear i hold quell.

[mighty cipher]

I’ve always just gone until I hit 100 and then started reading the number.

[rotund fable]

When I'm in game with my friends they tell me "I'm built different"... but when i get into a game with people who are actually good at the game they say i'm "Slightly above average"...

[mighty cipher]

I have now gained the ability to count quell ticks and consistently activate my sword at 100% without blowing up.

[supple ledge]

99% and no lower

just because i dont trust myself with that 1%

[urban hearth]

fucking shotgunner city in here

never seen so many in 1 level

[rotund fable]

Why the hell did you ping me for a split second...?

[urban hearth]

accidentally quoted instead of normal post lol

[rotund fable]

ah, ok

[mental grail]

based

[urban hearth]

ignore peril

if screech is up its up

if nots

its not

[mighty cipher]

Is there a reason not to doorcamp on hourglass?

Other than poxbursters

[zenith vigil]

game dropped me in a team with 4 psykers

[mental grail]

what did someone on this server call this?

"team cluster headache"

also

what is it with my siblings and dressing like buffoons???

everyone aside from the top guy is dressed like they fell out a tacky halloween shop

[wind spruce]

The black skull mask is way better than lame ass goggles making you look like quicksilver from x men

[mental grail]

with that goofy ass mask you literally look like a dollar store ghost

[stable halo]

Shadow wizard money gang

[near bobcat]

hope the enemy is ready for smite and assail spam

and that one guy brainbursting in the corner. But he's okay, he's dealing with the crushers 🙂

[dusk void]

Was playing a high intensity match and some doofus decided that at level 22 was the time to try a high intensity heresy mission. Dude failed so hard and costed us the mission 😆

[wind spruce]

One bad player shouldn't cost you the mission, bruh

[dusk void]

True, but it was a combination of bad luck and awful team coordination

And the fact that I hate seeing underlevel players try a high intensity match really frustrates me. Like bruh, upgrade your weapons/talent tree before trying an auric/regular hi intensity match. I don’t have to keep rescuing a bum ass player

[proud mantle]

came back to this game after months whats the new psyker meta? my old builds feel really weak aside from my voidstrike crit one

[wind spruce]

All the staffs are good, columnus IAG is good, las pistol is good

[untold niche]

idk im on level 22 because of my vet, and im carrying level 30+s on heresy

[untold niche]

think most popular OP build other than void is gunker

but assail got nerfed recently

fixed*

[cosmic sigil]

after crafting scores of godrolled columnus on psyker, vet and zealot i just found i prefer the graia

[wind spruce]

You don't even need assail to be OP with a columnus

[wind spruce]

Graia is good, sure, but it's objectively worse than the columnus

[mental grail]

Depends, sometimes you gotta clutch or you fuck the whole team

cascading failure happens

[wind spruce]

That only further reinforces my point. If you need the fourth player to prevent a wipe, you certainly aren't capable of clutching the situation

[mental grail]

Nah

I disagree

Enemy intensity fluctuates throughout the level

I've clutched games after multiple teammates fumbling, and we've wiped some

all comes down to a missed dodge

[plucky flax]

[mental grail]

yeah I still main the columnus, but the graia is so much better to shoot

alas

I am but a slave to the meta

[radiant frigate]

sometimes that fourth player causes dead bodies to attract more dead bodies from teammates trying to save them

[cold ivy]

part of getting better at the game is learning when you can fight and when you need to give ground - sometimes it's too difficult to save someone (e.g. if they get pulled past a wall of bulwarks and crushers by a trapper, and you don't have enough anti-armor)

in that situation, you have to leave them to die, get into a better position where you can kill whatever's around, and then push forward and revive them at the next checkpoint

[cosmic sigil]

my main gunker build rn use smite and taxe

[cosmic sigil]

well, the handling is better for one

[near gale]

Question: How is this voidstrike staff?

[radiant frigate]

pretty good

not perfect nexus but 2 free perks

[upper sun]

idk void isnt super hard to roll

its a fine staff but nexus 4 is really important

[cosmic sigil]

i have a confession to make

i think i prefer ds2 to ds4

[plucky flax]

I like ds5 best.

Play what you like.

[upper sun]

STOP HAVING OPINIONS

and most importantly STOP HAVING FUN

[wind spruce]

Doesn't the mk2 have lower damage on the heavy stabs than mk4?

[radiant frigate]

oh no, 2% crit

world-shattering

[upper sun]

more number more better

[radiant frigate]

bigger number more gooder

[cosmic sigil]

The heavies feels like your hitting through water, don't you think?

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

But second heavy is wide

[near gale]

Wouldn't say a 5% crit chance perk benefit the staff more overall, rather than just upgrading warp nexus from 3 to 4?

[cosmic sigil]

I dunno, feels better to handle

[cosmic sigil]

I have the same problem on my surge void. I have nexus3 locked. So should I take + Crit chance or +25 flak?

[near gale]

Well I can just reroll both perks on my voidstrike, instead of only rerolling 1 and changing warp nexus 3 to warp nexus 4(which I do not have in my library, for the voidstrike) x.x

[magic kayak]

How bad will it brick?

[near gale]

50 50

[cosmic sigil]

Very bad

[rigid sky]

Is the damage stat acceptable?

[magic kayak]

watch me get sprint eff and +stam perks

yeah damage isn't nearly as important as the pen, fin, first target, and I like mob for dodge distance and sprint speed

[cosmic sigil]

Pen can be compensated with uncanny tho

[magic kayak]

pen does damage against armor typed

uncanny wont make a difference

[cosmic sigil]

I will

Because it's rending

[magic kayak]

yeah but that doesn't mean penetration wont multiple the damage you do

[cosmic sigil]

Your pen won't be better than 100 rending

[magic kayak]

pen doesn't do rending..

[cosmic sigil]

I know

That's why I said it can compensate

[magic kayak]

ah ok, well having both will do more damage

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

[magic kayak]

and it'll still be better than a higher dmg stat since that variance isn't much

[cosmic sigil]

But I would upgrade that knife tbh

[magic kayak]

at 79 damage stat the knife does 131.6 heavy atk / 49.35 light attack damage