psyker-class

[tulip kettle]

gotta say the game feels in a really good spot now, they just need to do something to have like "hi intensity" and then "extreme intensity" and its great

[queen trout]

If something is over 15 stacks of warpfire and you keep hitting them with a purg staff does that prevent it from dropping stacks? Or does it still drop off to 15 stacks

[tulip kettle]

it maintains the currenty stacks i believe

but this is such a situational and almost pointless interaction i dont think it matters too much

[queen trout]

That's what I figured but wasn't sure

Well since DOTs get stronger the more stacks there are im assuming 21 stacks is significantly stronger per tick then 15

[tulip kettle]

yes

but

when will anything be reaching 16 stacks that inst a monstrosity

[queen trout]

Well I'm just thinking about boss damage. Crusher or mutant Maybe lol

[tulip kettle]

yeah so only relevant for bosses

and then

you are talking about flaming them to max stacks, shrieking at them, then continuing to flame at them

[queen trout]

Ye

[tulip kettle]

to hold the stacks above the cap

how often do you think you can pull it off

[rigid sky]

Pretty often?

15 stacks + F is an easy combo I think? How long does 15 stacks take anyway with a decent crit rate?

[tulip kettle]

its 5 seconds with a max burn staff and no crits, crits reducing the time taken by 0.35

if you are able to do it great, im not saying dont

[queen trout]

Oh do crits allow stacking over 15? Or still 15

[tulip kettle]

16

a crit on 14 gives 16

i just think this is all super niche stuff

and youre much better dealing with the hordes in most encounters where there is a monster and you have purgatus

[spice veldt]

change in damage per stack is roughly linear once you get to a certain amount of stacks and then it dampens

the damage WRT stack is an S-curve

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1191060480639373462/image.png?ex=65f71f03&is=65e4aa03&hm=6a85c74c4180b2dfc21c563ade89285a3ddb07b6a095ca5b226fba342fb5fb18&

[queen trout]

Well sure the 16 on crit is only one more. I just like to know hoe things work. Besides 22 stacks os probably not terrible dps on bosses. Especially if you just swap to the staff for a LMB and swap back to melee

[rigid sky]

Paint the boss and horde with Flames at the same time

Now there's the strategy of an incomparable mind

[queen trout]

Impossible

[plucky flax]

For anything other than monster you won't need to wait til they get 15 stacks before pressing f.

[queen trout]

I must leave the hoard clear to the TH zealot while I purg LMB spam the boss

[wind spruce]

It's not burst damage...

[radiant frigate]

how is it not

declaring death on an entire horde is not burst?

[coral cave]

do psykers exist?

or are all the warp abilities fake

[crude vortex]

It's all in your mind

[upper sun]

were actually a mix of vets and zealots that use plasma guns and flamers respectively

[crude vortex]

Fancy sword

[rigid sky]

It totally is burst damage, in terms of how much time you have to commit to it yourself

Half a second of action to stick 6 soulblazes everywhere is a lot of burst

[halcyon gust]

I been getting a bunch of all pysker groups while completing my contracts for mine for the week

2 games ended with all 4 of us going pop at the same time

[upper sun]

had one truama psyker blow up 3-5 times in one game

like bro you dont have to edge your warp at 80-90 if you blow up staying alive at 40 peril is less damage but its more damage if you stay alive

[upper galleon]

edging is the only way to play (unless you aren't running shriek/smite)

[jovial juniper]

Peril addicted psyker

[halcyon gust]

Warp Nexus is a drug man

You love to maintain that high

[jovial juniper]

I feel safer with peril

[upper galleon]

you are completely safe at 90%

even 98%

[halcyon gust]

You're safe until you hit 100

[upper sun]

yeah but if you keep fucking it up maybe be a little bit safer

hell I edge around 50-70 because i dont trust myself to go higher

[halcyon gust]

I generally hover at 80-90% Peril

Lower if using Trauma

[upper sun]

ive never really used truama with void idc its pretty safe surge tho is risky

@plucky flax grant me your blessings pls

[rotund fable]

My first 21% max HP curio.

I was beginning to think they didnt exist

[upper sun]

you need to get better at camping the store

🥹 I-i have twins

[crude vortex]

congratulations what are you naming them

[upper sun]

Horus and Vulkan

[rotund fable]

I mean... I have 2 +3 stamina curios and 4 +17% toughness curios...

brunt just really did not want me having that 1% extra max HP

[upper sun]

I have 1 21% green and 6 blue

[halcyon gust]

Ayyyyyyy. 1 of 2 17% toughness Curios I need for my psyker!

Who wants a toothpick

[upper sun]

Mk2? no!

[halcyon gust]

This was a Emperor's gift BTW

[upper sun]

[halcyon gust]

I'm keeping this because of the low ass damage stat

Gonna hang this in my room

[potent echo]

Look at how blunt that is

It's almost uncanny

[worn beacon]

It's a butter knife

[halcyon gust]

It's a training sword for new Psykers

less likely they'll stab their eyes out

[jovial mural]

custom psyker sword for dealing with ants

[crude vortex]

A psyker wanted to fight with a staff like a monk but didn't have one so they just blunted the sword

[primal plume]

Open Darktide
Youtube recommends this

Now I can know what smite is doing to my enemies

[crude vortex]

"dark science" I don't know about that - they glow pretty bright when they get zapped like that

[primal plume]

Psyker shit is basically what the thousand sons call science

or whatever theyre called

the tzeench chaos space marines under magnus

[crude vortex]

I'm scientific the way I got methods (my madness)

[primal plume]

the speed injection actually working as intended is super cool now

[crude vortex]

I like that it makes you hear more whispers

[jovial juniper]

The voices want drugs

[crude vortex]

They're so real for that

[primal plume]

is that new?

sounds more like typical "whooshy speed boost sounds"

[crude vortex]

Unsure. I noticed it today after a friend of mine kept jabbing me with stimms whenever she found one and got near me 😂 the Celerity one made different whispering

[primal plume]

couldve been whispering from the increased peril generation. sounds more like a wind effect

[crude vortex]

Nah I didn't have any peril when I listened

and it sounded different from the peril whispers

ah looks like I gotta get back in there sometime and do drugs to confirm...

[halcyon gust]

Blue stimm on Psyker is really funny

[crude vortex]

it's my fav

"Here's a shot of Bang. I'm not responsible for your actions now"

entire room is cleansed

[halcyon gust]

Though a surprise blue stimm injection on me does make very like to go Pop because it messes with my Rhythm

[crude vortex]

A blue for me just means the room is cleaned out after setting everyone on fire teehee

[halcyon gust]

Me is just lots of voidstrike orbs

And ton of chunky heretic salsa

[crude vortex]

Brain blasting, screaming, slashing, and farting

[jovial juniper]

Instant BB chain

[crude vortex]

fun and dangerous

[primal plume]

So judging from this dark science video

our psykers must pump out a ton of ac

[hexed geyser]

Probably not, because our psykers don't exactly do a lot of damage

[orchid shadow]

Wait, we don't?

[hexed geyser]

Smite does like 10 dmg per second of something like that

[dusk void]

Not unless you're using the force trama staff with the perfect level 4 blessings

That staff can clear out hordes in seconds

[calm sapphire]

trauma is great tho surge and smite is my goto nowaday for braindead plays

[dusk void]

Close, but so far away

[calm sapphire]

nice

[calm sapphire]

Not perfect but good enough for me

[hexed geyser]

I'm not talking about trauma lol, i said smite does no damage

[calm sapphire]

smite would be outright op if it did

[hexed geyser]

Indeed

Or they could rework it to be more of a blitz, with a cooldown instead of only peril to make it less braindead. Or change it to a kind of stun wave, or anything else interresting rather than a lockdown

There's plenty of good ideas i've seen here

[calm sapphire]

ye it can kinda get boring pretty fast

Maybe a psychic lightning mine placement for enemies to step on or something more dynamic like what u said

[feral knoll]

I’d be really happy with getting something like the beam staff from Vermintide 2

Just. Glowing greenish warp beam. Imagine the sound design

[orchid shadow]

Wierd. What the heck is "minion damage"?

[jovial juniper]

Don't ask the minions what they were doing in ca.999.M41

[paper lily]

poxburster

[orchid shadow]

Oh, interesting. So if I'm reading this correctly, I blew up a poxburster that hit a bomber and a shooter? Neat.

[paper lily]

yea basically

[cinder moon]

it doesn't?

[upper galleon]

tbf a lot of that is soulblaze from vent and talents+ EP of course

[ornate hamlet]

One day I won't come back to people using the infinite cleave fire shout that one-hits poxwalker hordes and saying smite is the one dealing damage

[magic kayak]

smite does pretty horrid damage

Just turn on mod to show damage or go into the training grounds and you'll see

[haughty star]

It's dot tho

[magic kayak]

there are so many better things to be doing than smiting honestly

[haughty star]

To be honest assail or bb aren't much better imo

Bb is kind of a joke and assail lost its uncanny swapp nonsense

Smite not only holds entire hordes but damages them too

It's all subjective at the end of the day

[magic kayak]

assail is great horde clear from distance, bb is amazing against specialists

much better than smite

obviously it can still be used though and just have fun

[haughty star]

Neither clear horde like smite and smite renders almost all specialists completely helpless until they do die

[cinder moon]

smite was the only thing letting my team move forward that mission because they were all zealots with poor CC options

[haughty star]

Blitz are for utility and smite deffo shines in the utility department

[magic kayak]

not on higher difficulties

sorry in game, smite can be replaced by so many better things

[haughty star]

I only play auric damn

[magic kayak]

ouch

[haughty star]

You just don't play with smite. Biased and literally just wrong lol

[magic kayak]

lol youre special

[cinder moon]

i only play damn+ and smite works fine

[haughty star]

Look at that extra special spelling

[magic kayak]

lol blocked

[haughty star]

[magic kayak]

I remember this guy he constantly fights people in here so had to block him. Have never seen him have a normal conversation. Just play the way you want who cares if others agree, lol.

[haughty star]

I was literally the one saying that. You're the one saying people are wrong for playing smite lmao

[cinder moon]

seems to me you're the one that isn't actually conversing in this instance

[magic kayak]

I guess I'll have to live with that

[upper galleon]

smite is best used as a tool to enable something else

mainly soulblaze stack spreading

it is not bad at all

some people just go shield smite+ no soulblaze talents and no EP, and do 0 damage

but EP smite+ soulblaze vent+talents= great horde clear

[magic kayak]

You can pretty much use any build you want in this game, there is no real wrong answer. I just do not think smite is better than other tools provided by the psyker kit.

But when someone can't handle somebody elses opinion and assumes they've never used the skill or is biased simply because they don't agree, or tries to talk about spelling then I'm not going to waste my time. Nobody is forced to talk to one another, lol.

[haughty star]

I only talked about your spelling as a joke about the "you're special" dig. There's no need to get upset man, we were just discussing.

[plucky flax]

Congrats

[wind spruce]

Lmfao if you think losing the uncanny bonus was the real shining light of assail weaving you're off your rocker

It was the damage perks

[wind spruce]

Because it's literally a DoT, the opposite of what burst damage means

[wind spruce]

Didn't you call him special as in r*tarded? You don't remotely have the higher ground unless you meant something else by that

[potent echo]

Psyker chat 😎

[magic kayak]

I never said I had any higher ground, but I said he was special because I don't understand why he would immediately jump to assuming I've never used smite and am biased simply because I didn't agree with him. Being special isn't specific to that slur. I'm not going to call someone mentally disabled or something for resorting to that type of silly argument, but I will think they're a special kind of person we all run into on online discussions. The type that will jump straight into insults and absolutes.

You can really run whatever build you want and it's not a personal attack if someone feels differently about a blitz, hah!

[upper galleon]

Censoring yourself xd

Alright witches

[magic kayak]

I personally think usually smite is the least effective blitz for most group comps. It freezes enemies in place, does mediocre damage, and you could instead be using assail to help clear the hordes from a distance, bb to take our specialists at basically infinite range, etc. It's just my opinion, I'm not passing it off as fact or the only truth there is.

[wind spruce]

You have to or discord does bruh

[upper galleon]

<@&735928989146939404>

[magic kayak]

Yep if you don't the message is auto blocked

[upper galleon]

Yea yall touching the line

There is a reason it is autoblocked and the conversation shouldnt reach that point anyways

[magic kayak]

To be fair, the lack of ability for free speech and discussion is absurd these days. Nobody in here called anyone that word but you can't even use the word like if I were to slow my pace or slow my ignition timing you can't use a basic english word.

[upper galleon]

Anyways, assail has a ammo limit, even with EP youll run dry in some auric horde encounters

[wind spruce]

Dude just stop. Special is a euphemism for r*tarded when you use it to imply something negative about their intelligence. You know this. I dont care that you called him special, but complaining about him making a joke about your grammar is fucking rich

[upper galleon]

Freeze peach

[magic kayak]

How about you stop yourself from pretending like you own the meaning of anything someone else says?

[upper galleon]

Free speech is when you says slurs in discord and the more slurs you say the freer you are

God bless america

[wind spruce]

Oh FUCK OFF. Elon Musk owns goddamn twitter. No one is coming after your free speech lmfao

[magic kayak]

Way to miss the point entirely.

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-man-shoot-gun-murica-usa-gif-11611613

[hollow current]

[magic kayak]

Hey look at the parrots lol

[wind spruce]

I don't own the meaning. You know what you meant lmfao.

[upper galleon]

Idc about special

[wind spruce]

Keep backpedalling bruh

[magic kayak]

Yes I know exactly what I meant, and I explained it but clearly you have a hard on for it

[potent echo]

Are we gonna have another semisapient moment c'mon some one say it already

[wind spruce]

Idc either, he's just a hypocrit

[upper galleon]

I do care about 2 people purposefully bypassing the language filter to say a slur

[magic kayak]

This is why noone will miss you when you're gone

[wind spruce]

We're discussing semantics.

[upper galleon]

Cause you both are absolutely given into the voices rn

[magic kayak]

Even though I disagree with Irosk, I also agree. Asking someone if they meant another slur is pretty understandable.

[upper galleon]

[magic kayak]

Imagine getting triggered over darktide discord lol

This man has comandeered the word special to mean exactly what he thinks it means... the special nazi

[wind spruce]

Imagine being so insecure you can't stand by your own statements

[magic kayak]

I'm sorry I don't love smite

[wind spruce]

We all know what special is a euphemism for

[upper galleon]

[magic kayak]

I stand 100% behind what I said. Are you dont making up things? Nothing I've said is a stretch, meanwhile you're trying to create your own narrative.

No, "we" don't all "know" what special is a euphemism for.

[wind spruce]

Lmfao

[magic kayak]

You're also being special.

I mean if you really think you're going to internet intimidate me into thinking I said something wrong I think that's rich

[upper galleon]

Wardens on lunch break ill just sit here eating 🍿

[wind spruce]

Keep coping

[wind spruce]

Huff huff

[magic kayak]

Once again you're making up a narrative. It's not a good look.

[wind spruce]

You're saying I'm triggered and trying to intimidate you

Is that not you creating a narrative?

[magic kayak]

Slow down bro I need to block you

[untold niche]

how come today everyone arguing left and right and blocking

[upper galleon]

Dude scroll up these witches using slurs!

[hollow current]

no content so they're bored

[magic kayak]

Honestly, if people want to talk builds I enjoy that, but when people take it personal I think that's silly

[wind spruce]

They didn't take it personally lmfao

[upper galleon]

Absolutely 100% peril rn

[wind spruce]

They made a joke about your spelling

And YOU took that personally

Huff huff huff

Taste that good copium

[magic kayak]

Usually what happens is everyone is bored out of their mind, noone really cares or is upset, but everyone pretends the other side is lol

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[fluid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-entrance-omni-man-explode-gif-21497546

[lunar hollow]

not even parrying smh

[upper galleon]

He is here

[wind spruce]

Takes one to know one BOOM 360 NOSCOPE

[magic kayak]

but is it the omni man before or after season 2

[fluid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-omniman-invincible-gif-23406278

[wind spruce]

This is the good stuff

We have no content to discuss

Gotta do something

[untold niche]

i parry u

[magic kayak]

Gotta dodge, the parry isn't great against ragers

[fluid forge]

so all I gotta say is, please don't try to go around the word filter, it exists for a reason even if it's not ideal

[magic kayak]

they do a double hit so you get hit even when you parry

[magic kayak]

That's fair.

[untold niche]

i think u guys need to be more wholesome

like me, very wholesome

[magic kayak]

Or, wholesome on average

[magic kayak]

This all started from a surge discussion. The most hotly debated psyker discussion since the purgatus staff

[untold niche]

surge suk because there is void
ez argument win

🐭

[magic kayak]

I feel like void and trauma negate needing surge

[untold niche]

trauma does, but doesn't really just based off how hard it is to roll a good one

[magic kayak]

wait sorry I meant smite lol

[untold niche]

now i look stoopid

[magic kayak]

You fell into my trap

[plucky flax]

1v1 me on surge

[magic kayak]

I actually like surge quite a bit and it'll clear aurics for sure.

[untold niche]

but its darktide not darkdroplet

[magic kayak]

I'm a mid player but I just did an auric with surge

and a rashad mk ii

[untold niche]

surge feels cool but like

just one target

same bps, although charges faster, compared to void

[magic kayak]

I mean, it staggers 3 but yeah the damage isn't much on the other 2

yeah void I just don't have a good roll on yet but I want to try

my trauma is kinda meh, I need the warp flurry for it

[plucky flax]

I'm top 1% surge>void for me.

[magic kayak]

and probably take off the unyielding I think

[untold niche]

top 1% trauma, top 99% aim

[radiant frigate]

okay.. but surely if you apply a DoT in a wide enough area, which is also lethal to most small targets, and it takes a fraction of a second to cast, that would be considered burst damage?

[plucky flax]

[magic kayak]

I mean, its a burst of dot, but burst damage is just considered a big spike of damage, aoe burst would be a grenade

venting shriek is basically what the purgatus staff wishes it was lol

[radiant frigate]

'ate purgatus

luv me shriek

simple as

[magic kayak]

I used to run purgatus only when I started. You can make it work but after trying the other staves it feels like a real handicap. You can stagger pretty decent with the l1 but otherwise it doesn't bring much to the table besides horde clear which a decent melee zealot can do anyways

[radiant frigate]

or melee psyker

[magic kayak]

hah good point

[radiant frigate]

(illisi my beloved)

thank you for perfectly illustrating why i don't run purgatus

[magic kayak]

I need to give that a shot, I have the deimos which I like but for horde clear on melee I just go axe

[plucky flax]

Play purgatus when you want to be lazy.

Even less effort than surge.

[radiant frigate]

deimos is good at what it does but it isn't main weapon material

[magic kayak]

Yeah purgatus honestly is a good starter weapon

much slower peril build up, pretty predictable

[plucky flax]

I like to play with bloom and lens flare turn on when using purga so I can blind myself.
https://youtu.be/_IGeSrAujHQ

[magic kayak]

Yeah I have major visibility issues with that staff, I didn't think about it being the bloom / lens flare though I just figured this was my life now

[hollow current]

this is why some psykers have welding goggles

[magic kayak]

That actually makes sense now, I didn't realize it was lore

[vestal fulcrum]

Which is also why some Zealots have welding goggles (they don't work)

[untold niche]

purg is like playing with water hose when you have actual guns
i never understood why people ran purg
i guess its very thematic?

[wind spruce]

No, it would just be considered a DoT with a very quick application rate

[magic kayak]

Yeah I think it's because of the fact you're burning everything with psychic fire I mean, that is pretty cool

It's just not that great, especially once you find out that after you hit max stacks it does literally nothing to the mobs hah

Took me forever to figure that out

[magic kayak]

Usually every game has a spectrum from those that just want to enjoy a power fantasy, or enjoy being in the 40k world, etc and want to play the way they want to play which isn't meta. Then you get more into those that modify how they play or want to play based on what is meta or just mechanically better.

[plucky flax]

I can recommend playing with bloom and lens flare when using soulblaze build.

[magic kayak]

So I can light up my entire room?

[untold niche]

i understand ofc

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/william-weir-event-horizon-sam-neill-wont-need-eyes-to-see-gif-15977214

[wind spruce]

That's weird, I saw some sedition player with a YouTube title just like that today

[untold niche]

but like

you burn them

and then you ahve to wait for their grandmother to remarry before they die

[plucky flax]

[magic kayak]

haha well, yeah, but while they're burning at least they aren't coming at you. It's arguably better than smite haha

[indigo portal]

https://tenor.com/view/وشهاظا-reading-focus-huh-what-gif-17524883

[plucky flax]

Ayo found the snitch

[magic kayak]

it has strong suppression and the l1 can stagger, if I remember, two casts will stagger a crusher? I can't remember

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-fight-fist-fight-film-ice-cube-snitches-get-stitches-gif-7391040

[untold niche]

thats if you let it go no?

but if you continue holding it down no stagger

[magic kayak]

Just the quick cast, no alternate fire

left mouse button I dunno on controller. The quick cast no charge, does a lot of stagger

[untold niche]

ya

like imagine ur flamethrower you can't even continue shooting

have to use it like a vape

puff puff puff

doofendorf going to kill me

[magic kayak]

careful, that guy is going to report you for making fun of wizards

This world is very dangerous and all words need to be policed and told to the authorities

[magic kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/vape-vaping-chicken-toy-smoke-gif-10886806

How purgatus feels

[untold niche]

bro dats u

cockster

[magic kayak]

Nah man my jaw can detach like a snake

that right there is childs play

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-egg-snake-hungry-gimme-that-gif-12840403

[magic kayak]

ok I was wrong, doesn't stagger crushers at all, bulwark shield blocks stagger, but it does stagger 1 hit if shield isn't up, doesn't stagger reaper at all

better off using force sword for the push attack to stagger and never using purgatus lol

[untold niche]

better off using void

void staggers crusher

shoots thru bulwark

i think stagger bulwark after enough hit?

[magic kayak]

I don't want to talk about void. I haven't gotten the blessing I want yet

[untold niche]

🐭

[spice veldt]

used to stagger crushers before patch 13 iirc

just that crushers got a stagger res buff

[magic kayak]

See that's what I thought I remembered too. I guess that makes sense

[magic kayak]

fully charged void staggers bulwark back and opens them up for attack

one cast

ok, not even fully charges, just any charge level staggers them

reaper is staggers with fully charged, partial stagger at half and progresses with charge meter

[untold niche]

huh im pretty sure i shot full charge before and their shield no open
thats how i know it goes thru
am i dumb dumb

[potent echo]

I think void staggers crushers if you hit the head fully charged

But might be because of numerous other stagger sources accumulating in the wacky world that is auric pubs

[magic kayak]

well, I just tested it but let me go back in and see

[untold niche]

yeah it does, im talking about bulwark

[potent echo]

Bulwarks does too but if another source overrides your stagger then welp

Like ppl spamming m1 on the shield lol

[magic kayak]

Ok, half cast to full cast to bulwark shield opens shield

but looks like once they put shield back up, immune to stagger for around a second, maybe less

[untold niche]

ahhh yeah thats likely the reason

[magic kayak]

wth do I do with this thing

I know I need the double shot blessing

instead of transfer peril

[cosmic sigil]

You want Crit on peril and surge :/

[magic kayak]

do I also swap blazing spirit for warp nexus?

sucks that it has unarmoured, I might need to just start with a new one

[cosmic sigil]

Sad about unarmored, maybe if you use lmb on shooters

[untold niche]

ngl, imo bricked
both perk bad
both blessing bad unless you want to play transfer peril

[magic kayak]

yeah bricked I think

[cosmic sigil]

I have carapace and Crit chance on mine

[untold niche]

i think cara + flak better @ keet

[magic kayak]

whats dump stat? quell?

[untold niche]

yeah quell and somewhat resist

so long as

after quelling for 2 ticks from 100, you can shoot 2 half charge shots

[magic kayak]

ok makes sense

[cosmic sigil]

I should try that in the psyk maybe i am missing a good breakpoint

[wind spruce]

Yep, flak first on void

[untold niche]

personally i run cara + maniac

[wind spruce]

Flak is like 2/3 of the enemies

[untold niche]

to me killing ragers more important than killing gunners
you don't need flak for bruisers or specialists

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah but void is kinda op

Ragers are elite maniac and elite flak

[wind spruce]

One of the ragers is flak

[untold niche]

the flak version of the rager has lower hp

so doesn't matter.

[magic kayak]

I could make this work I think

[wind spruce]

Not to mention you're missing the bonus to your warpfire

[magic kayak]

swap ranged dmg to cara and run n gun to double shot

whatever it's called

[wind spruce]

I'd go nexus instead

[magic kayak]

actually then im missing warp nexus

[untold niche]

i mean, i advocate for cara+flak because after few stacks of DD you would hit maniac rager threshold, so return on flak is better if you want to full charge gunners to 1 tap.
But I prefer maniac because i would rather kill ragers reliably.

What flak are you going to kill with soulblaze

[untold niche]

on void, your weakness is close enemies, guess who can get close to you very fast

[wind spruce]

Yeah cara/flak is what I run.

And the answers to what flak... is all of them? I don't really understand the question

[wind spruce]

Sort of... but you can also just dodge slide backwards a couple of times and start voiding them again

Who be pepein

[untold niche]

what new threshold are you going to hit by having +20% flak damage on your soulblaze on void

[wind spruce]

The killing them 20% faster threshold

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

There's no breakpoints with a DoT, it's just a 20% faster kill time lol

[untold niche]

yeah, do you wait for everything to die to yur DoT when you have void?

so realistically your soulblaze is to lower bps on void
in the context of +20% flak damage.

[wind spruce]

Dude when you're in the shit with tons of elites and creeping flames stuff dies to your soulblaze

[wind spruce]

No it's not

[lethal lagoon]

I mean a lot of the time I'd be applying flaming shriek to a part of the map I'm not actively paying attention to

So I guess I be waiting.

[wind spruce]

Exactly

But even if the stuff is grouped in front of you

[untold niche]

bossman, i said with context of 20% flak because i knew you would say this
usually you apply vs to zombies right?

[wind spruce]

It's still relevant to have them burn 20% faster

[lethal lagoon]

Sure, but pure zombie bois aren't super common.

[wind spruce]

I get tons of gunner kills from soulblaze when I'm on void

Doesn't everybody?

[untold niche]

the stronger type zombies, are not running flaks right

its unarmored & infested isn't it

[lethal lagoon]

That's what I meant by pure zombies, they are kinda rare.

Ish'

[untold niche]

so your game have more bruisers than zombies?

[wind spruce]

My siblings

It's for gunners, shooters and maulers more than bruisers

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, but (pure)zombies alone aren't too common and generally are taken care of no matter how I function.

Zombies are usually ego nowadays

For those sweet sweet numbers

I care about a higher level

[wind spruce]

If I'm not doing 40-50% of the teams damage it usually feels like I fucked up ngl

[lethal lagoon]

I haven't played the last month or so, playerbase kinda dedge, are there still noobs?

[wind spruce]

I'd say there's even more noobs percentage wise

[pine carbon]

It's a co-op horde shooter. It's garaunteed, like taxes.

[untold niche]

wait, if you run +20% flak, your 83.3% peril vs can one shot bruiser? genuine question

[lethal lagoon]

Taxes are guarenteed?

[plucky flax]

Wtf so pro

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure yiis

[wind spruce]

(In sedition)

[untold niche]

and iwthout it you cannot?

[plucky flax]

I do least amount of damage on my team.

[wind spruce]

Least × -1

[lethal lagoon]

But also most cause you are sadly soloing sedition.

🎻

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[near gale]

except team damage, right?

😉

[untold niche]

imagine agent

just the whole game

[plucky flax]

In hd2 I teamkill the most every game.

[untold niche]

shooting the back of some vet

[plucky flax]

Arc thrower main be like.

[lethal lagoon]

I never team kill with arc thrower

I don't get it

How does it happen?

[untold niche]

agent he throwing shade at u

[plucky flax]

People run in front of me for no reason.

[lethal lagoon]

But like... just don't hit them?

[plucky flax]

They see me zapping they're like 'cool let me get in front of you'.

I don't stop even for fellow divers.

[lethal lagoon]

I still don't get it.

😒

[plucky flax]

Or they spawn in right at my eagle.

[near gale]

If you saw what the idiots do in vt2... you'd understand that sometimes... you already commited and they are in the way of that commitment...

[lethal lagoon]

I just unlocked all the eagle ship modules

I wanna do a pure eagle build

[near gale]

aka bounty hunter ult >.>

[lethal lagoon]

Eagle pilot is my waifu, fight me

[untold niche]

bro they landed and you throw eagle at them

[near gale]

And...? I see nothing wrong with this

[untold niche]

u got the order wrong

[plucky flax]

No I threw it first. And that guy landed in shit area his fault.

I'm master eagle caller.

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-smile-happy-smiling-good-news-like-gif-18833341

[lethal lagoon]

Cough cough, as in fight me for my waifu, now this convo is just weird, but I feel like I have to explain my joke.

Yeah, brother, I feel like that's just a team kill plain and simple

[plucky flax]

Well I threw that reinforcement too.

But he didn't have to land it right on the enemies.

His fault.

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

I can't remember tbh

[untold niche]

prob not actually

[near gale]

Team kill is such a... negative word... I prefer the term "cannon fodder"

[lethal lagoon]

Why you already got tech going

[untold niche]

agent be fishing and then blaming the fish for dying because they bite the bait while he wrestled the rod

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-master-nod-agree-beard-gif-17299924

[near gale]

Sounds sus, like nemcrid...

(nemesis acrid)

[untold niche]

wat is that

[near gale]

Fish

Which is ironically not a joke

gimme a sec

[magic kayak]

Maybe darktide will get strategems too

[plucky flax]

This game is fine. @lethal lagoon Xd

[near gale]

The starstorm nemesis version of Acrid

[lethal lagoon]

Already unlocked the secret gravity warp strat, not fair

[plucky flax]

Warp magic while spreading democracy.

[untold niche]

you hit him so hard he had to fart

[lethal lagoon]

The achievement to get it is super hard

[magic kayak]

ogryn strategem would be rocks falling

that they threw up instead of straight

[near gale]

Man... now I wanna play nemcrid, despite even starstorm ror1 being... dated for the looks...

[plucky flax]

I'm having a lot of fun in hd. Can't wait for the balance patch now cos my arc thrower shoots blank 50% of the time.

And armour fix so I can be a beef cake in heavy.

[lethal lagoon]

Give me heavy medic armor

[plucky flax]

I just wish medic armour is not this ugly white and green.

[near gale]

Does this work?

[plucky flax]

The medium twitch drop armour is good.

[lethal lagoon]

It goes well with one of the store helmets

The medic

[plucky flax]

But the green shiny plastic like finish on the other medic armour is kinda fugly.

[lethal lagoon]

Like a stormtropper white helm with red line

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[near gale]

Don't worry, Loader has you

[plucky flax]

I'm rocking the orange helm with extra throw range light armour drip.

Black on orange swag

[near gale]

Man... I really need to get Acrid's judgement skin...

Closest I have is milkrid...

[lethal lagoon]

The most basic bitch fit

I will say, I had this the day it dropped in the store, so early adaptor

[tall mango]

Got this from a random roll, how is it siblings?

[plucky flax]

I used to rock this.

But it's ugly still.

[lethal lagoon]

Just like I said to your mom last night; I'm bricked.

[lethal lagoon]

ugly(ish)

Jokes aside, there are a few things to do with it.

Why mark 5?

[lethal lagoon]

I run the hood usually, cause ultimately I'm seeing my characters back.

the scout thingy

[plucky flax]

The try hard + movement speed hood meta.

[lethal lagoon]

tbf, I ran it before that

[plucky flax]

Light medic armour + speed hood = try hard.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah, what about railgun supply pack

[plucky flax]

I bet you run railgun and shield backpack too.

[lethal lagoon]

Nah shield is for pussies(also I keep getting clipped out of the map by chargers)

[plucky flax]

I use shield against bots though tbf.

But I hate fighting bots.

These 1 shot rocket is bs.

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

I prefer bugs.

[lethal lagoon]

I like bots for solo cause bugs have a lot of cheese, where as robots only really have those rocket bois as true cheese.

Bugs more fun in group though

Nothing like getting splattered on with the boys

[plucky flax]

Hope arrowhead get 40k licens and make a space marine or karskin game similar to hd2.

I know space marine 2 is coming out but it's not pure co-op shooter like this.

It's more like single player with some story.

[lethal lagoon]

I mean the game is "owned" by Sony, so maybe they could work it out.

For a future run.

My angus is definitely peppered for helldivers clones.

They are all going to be shit and I'm gonna enjoy it anyways

[plucky flax]

Scream for the emprah while unloading a mag against bugs.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

I wished hd2 is 18+ for some profanity while the dude is unloading.

[lethal lagoon]

I just want custom voice packs or some sort of store for that

[plucky flax]

Screaming for super earth and democracy is fun but it'd be funner when they scream "DIE MOTHAFUACKAAASS!!!"

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine user created voice packs on like a mod store or something

[plucky flax]

I remember bf3 or bf4. The audio mix was good and there was profanity too.

Immersive shit.

[lethal lagoon]

"Not today" is pretty good already too, so I'd love no filter yeah.

It would go up a notch.

I also wish the japanese voices were international.

[plucky flax]

Hrm lemme youtube it.

I bet the screams are funny.

There's not much on youtube. D:

[lethal lagoon]

D:

[radiant frigate]

how about a nice cup of liber-tea

[plucky flax]

I will serve you.

[white cedar]

does railgun still 2shot open charger leg?

[paper loom]

hi, is decimator a good blessing on axe?

[upper sun]

whats an axe?

[vestal fulcrum]

It can be, but it’s harder to stack and keep up than Headtaker is, and the only reward for stacking Decimator is double the potential power increase when compared to HT

[paper loom]

big sharp hitty thing

i got this the other day i wanted to have a mess around with it

i have headtaker 4

[vestal fulcrum]

A solid axe indeed

[upper sun]

do you have brutal momentem?

[paper loom]

sadly not

i keep rolling axes for it

[vestal fulcrum]

I would definitely swap Limbsplitter to Bromentum

[rigid sky]

Not even a low level bromentum?

Doesn't have to be IV

[vestal fulcrum]

Not even BM at Lv1/Lv2?

[paper loom]

Bromentum is perfect name for an Ogryn btw

yea maybe a low lvl

[vestal fulcrum]

Brom is a short and sweet name for an ogryn

[paper loom]

yea all ogryn should have 4 letter names

[vestal fulcrum]

The main power of the blessing comes from its main effect, not the WS damage increase it provides (and the WS damage is the only thing that changes with each level of the blessing)

[paper loom]

so switch belssings to head taker and bromentum?

[vestal fulcrum]

For general use, BM1 holds much more value than Limbsplitter 4

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, I would say that’s reasonable

[rigid sky]

At least get bromentum

[paper loom]

flak and unyielding is ok i think

[rigid sky]

Idk whether better to swap decimator out or get a better perk

[vestal fulcrum]

Unless you are comfortable with Decimator

[rigid sky]

Headtaker is better than decimator for sure though

[upper sun]

"Thud" "Bonk" "Gonk"

[paper loom]

mine is called Bort

[upper sun]

mines thuddo

[paper loom]

noone gets the reference tho which is sad

[rigid sky]

Mine is Garkragtuan. He definitely cannot say his own name, let alone spell it.

[upper sun]

actuallt all my guys have randomized name

[upper sun]

who the hell is named bort?

[paper loom]

lol

[rigid sky]

Hello /r/simpsonsshitposting

[upper sun]

simpsons license plate scene?

[paper loom]

yea back when every episode was genius

that and the Booo-urns scene

[rigid sky]

Last Exit To Springfield is the greatest episode of television

You cannot convince me otherwise

[paper loom]

im going to google that one im bound to have seen it a million times

[upper sun]

please follow friends episode naming tradition

[rigid sky]

Dental plan

That one

[paper loom]

ah yea

[upper sun]

idk what the hell exist to springfield is

[rigid sky]

Dental plan
Lisa needs braces
Dental plan
Lisa needs braces
Dental plan
Lisa needs braces

[upper sun]

🤔

[paper loom]

joking aside my wifes auntie lives in US the cost for braces is ridiculous

her daughter need sthem no way anyone can afford that crap

[rigid sky]

Would rather live in Tertium than America tbh

[upper sun]

you know im pretty sure in some cases it would be cheaper to move to another country for a week and do the braces there

[rigid sky]

This is factual

[paper loom]

funny thing Americans take the piss out of in UK for bad teeth but we get free/almost free dentistry

[rigid sky]

Well

NHS dentistry is almost entirely inaccessible now :/

[upper sun]

america be like pay 10k
UK be like wait 10 months
germany be like do both

[rigid sky]

Teeth are LuXuRy BoNeS

[paper loom]

i moved 2 months ago got straight in a NHS dentist

depends where you live i guess

[upper sun]

INSIDE YOU ARE TWO WOLVES

theres no fucking way im dealing with dogs for 2k gold less than shocktroops

[vestal fulcrum]

What’s the other wolf, then

[upper sun]

theyre both dead (I refuse to play hunting grounds)

[zenith vigil]

which one is better? 😄

[vestal fulcrum]

[zenith vigil]

I can sacrifice one to improve the other, but not sure which one to keep

[vestal fulcrum]

Both can be good

[zenith vigil]

left one has low damage but high mobi and finesse...

[rigid sky]

Updog and downdog

[upper sun]

whats updog?

[rigid sky]

Neither are the "best" Duelling sword

[upper sun]

yeah mk 4 is best

[zenith vigil]

oh...

[rigid sky]

https://images.app.goo.gl/Sb34QkkuAGsV1YLj9

[upper sun]

but you got uncanny

took me forever to get uncanny 4 on ds

I still dont have nexus and flurry 4 for truama 😭

[rigid sky]

Tbf I don't know how much "worse" the II and V are

[upper sun]

5 is a stab then a slash for the heavy i think

[zenith vigil]

I know that feel. when I want a thrust 4 for my zealot's hammer, it cost me about 65k plasteel...

[rigid sky]

I think the IV has like a massive damage heavy

[vestal fulcrum]

I would keep both, they are different marks, but they have workable perks/blessings and sums of modifiers.

You don’t really have to change anything in the Mk5, but do experiment with the perks, as they likely are different from that of Mk4

The Mk2 definitely reroll specials into something else, and maybe upgrade Uncanny if you feel like it. Mk2 has a sweeping heavy attack that can be semi-looped, so you might get some good value from that Rampage, if you want to melee hordes

[rigid sky]

And the others, as well as not being consistently stabby, also don't stab as hard?

[upper sun]

like if you can one shot stuff the second heavy doesnt matter but for crushers mk4 is best

im pretty sure its just the animation and cleave but the heavy jab is the same

[zenith vigil]

thanks

trying to make an mk 4. hadron be like...

[vestal fulcrum]

If you ever feel like scrapping any of them, the Mk5 has Uncanny, so that would be the first thing I’d recover

[vestal fulcrum]

This is also workable

[upper sun]

dont complain thats better than mine

[zenith vigil]

I just want a perfect sword at first try, is that too much to ask?

[upper sun]

yes

in the words of a great british philosopher

"you cant always get what you want"

[zenith vigil]

so beside uncanny, what else should I have on the sword?

[upper sun]

i would do uncanny and maniac

shred 4 is great

[vestal fulcrum]

The perks are relatively flexible, Maniac might be preferred on the Mk4 for potential mutant one/two shots

[upper sun]

the issue is if you dont have shred 4 and roll one with uncanny you might feel like you wasted resources changing it

[rigid sky]

I don't like shred but I am a minority

[halcyon gust]

You don't like having a high chance of losing a run because dogs picked a god awful time to spawn

[zenith vigil]

okay, i'll keep that mk4 sword and wait for some uncanny I can rip

thanks for the info guys

now time to make an iag

[upper sun]

tbh it never happened to me on damnation

[zenith vigil]

I want to try gun build 😄

[upper sun]

but i feel like the annoyance of dogs isnt worth the dockets they give

[halcyon gust]

It happened a good number of times on me. All it takes is the Director going "Fuck you. Unleash the hounds"

[upper sun]

bubble vent chorus all great for dogs

[zenith vigil]

btw, is other autogun good for gun psyker, or columnus a must?

cuz I have a good graia

[upper sun]

theyre both good imo but i dont really do gunker

[halcyon gust]

I play Psyker for the magic staffs to ease Ammo strain on teammates

Not add in more ammo strain

[upper sun]

everything in the game is good except taxe and recon

idc what people say

im not that guy and chances are no one on my team is that guy

[zenith vigil]

ive been playing staff since day 1, now I want to try something new

[halcyon gust]

You know you have a good match when you're paired with 3 Recon vets

[rigid sky]

And Krourk stubber

[halcyon gust]

And after the first big encounter. They have Yellow or Orange ammo and they fight over every ammo drop

[zenith vigil]

bonus point when I hit quickplay and get dropped into a match with no ammo pickup

[rigid sky]

Can that happen? Isn't maelstrom selection only?

Tbh I would love to veto one condition from QP

Specifically lights out

[halcyon gust]

No ammo pickup is Maelstorm only unless that's something that crops up randomly in the Auric grade missions

[zenith vigil]

now that i'm not sure, I usually let other people pick the game

[upper sun]

just use a gun with a light

[rigid sky]

But I don't wanna

Unless I'm on gunker anyway

[zenith vigil]

now this is what I know for sure can happen

[rigid sky]

And it is miserable lol

[halcyon gust]

Duck tape a flash light on your staff

[zenith vigil]

and I would thank the emperor if I accidentally in the mood to play flamer staff at that point lol

[halcyon gust]

I can imagine a Psyker just focus some energy on their staff to light the room up and it just 20 curshers around them

"Siblings. We have a problem"

[rigid sky]

Trauma staff intensifies

[radiant frigate]

"there is some my incomparable mind cannot achieve"

[zenith vigil]

just let the emperor guide your hands at that point

[crude vortex]

let the soulblaze wildfire from brain burst spread and hope your fellow psykers have a smite and Purgatus staff

[rigid sky]

And hope you have uncanny strike in that scenario

Because naked soulblaze don't do shit to carapace

[halcyon gust]

Gonna need a few more Trauma staffs for that

[crude vortex]

keeps the lessers off while you pound on the crushers

[upper sun]

I have 3 good ones but no nexus 4 and flurry 😢

i wanna make a damage one and a fire one

do you go to gold for blessing hunting or just blue

[halcyon gust]

I have this Scuffed as all fuck one, but it gets the job done

Still does a good job at being a Flame stomper

[upper sun]

i got pretty lucky

[vestal fulcrum]

The first one is

👌

[upper sun]

issue is i have nexus 4 only on the one i wanna use for damage

[vestal fulcrum]

Then install Nexus 3

You may still get Nexus 4 on Consecration

[upper sun]

ill just leave those and the nexus 4 one as is until i get flurry and nexus

[wind spruce]

Lights out is hella fun imo

[potent echo]

UPDATE

what did we update

[wind spruce]

Just crash fixes and stuff

And tbe low spawns issue

Which is good

[potent echo]

what is low spawns issue

i only had one strangely empty arena fight

[wind spruce]

Few other minor fixes

[wind spruce]

It's that

And all the other rooms you've walked through with less spawns than it should have

[unique lance]

Best staff ?

[wind spruce]

Whatever you like the most that isn't purgatus

[unique lance]

Why not purgatus ?

[potent echo]

he's nuts

[wind spruce]

Because it's the worst staff

[static needle]

The MTX shop is updating tomorrow, right?

[wind spruce]

By a decent margin

[potent echo]

poo poo take

[unique lance]

Ita gud for ordes

[wind spruce]

Nah dude not at at lol

[potent echo]

purg is easy to use and very good at its jobs

[halcyon gust]

I like the Purge staff because it makes the Heretics nice and crispy. Just the way I like them

[wind spruce]

Trauma and void are also amazing against hordes

[potent echo]

i mained alot of purg until i realised games with it is too easy

palystyle is you go in

and you go in

if you dont go in its not v good

[wind spruce]

This isn't a debate. Purg is the worst staff. Yes, it's still a good and useful weapon

[unique lance]

What's the other one , the thunder one

[wind spruce]

Buuuut the other staffs are better

[wind spruce]

Surge

[unique lance]

Sad

Its the only one I maxed

[wind spruce]

If you like purg just use it

But you asked

Tactical axe is probably the worst melee weapon psyker has on offer and I still use that

[unique lance]

I 'll try trauma maybe its better

[plucky flax]

Trauma is real bad pls buff.

[upper sun]

Fixed an issue where the collar for Psyker upper body cosmetics could appear as deformed for female characters.

[wind spruce]

Trauma is great. It's hard to get into because it has the highest skill floor and needs the highest roll to feel good. Expect it to feel real shitty for dozens of games before you realise it's the best staff due to the control and almost immunity to melee damage it gives you.

[unique lance]

Trauma i'nst the best ?

[plucky flax]

No it's worst especially blaze trauma.

[wind spruce]

He's being a silly billy dw bout it

[plucky flax]

[unique lance]

I have void and surge maxed

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit and pc both to 4 stacks when

[plucky flax]

Combustion can stay.

But give blazing spirits t4.

[wind spruce]

Void is pretty fkn broken atm if you can get the surge blessing

[wind spruce]

Por que los nos dos

[plucky flax]

Copy.

[wind spruce]

Actually I want the cap lifted above 6

[upper sun]

YES got flurry 4 for truama

now i just need nexus 4 and i can go back to bricking deimos'

[rigid sky]

All 4 of the staves are great tbh, it's just that Purgatus tends to make you a bit inflexible

[icy garnet]

block efficiency works on the perk that turns block into peril right

[radiant frigate]

yes but stamina has a greater effect on it because fatsharj

[icy garnet]

wouldnt stamina not effect it

or is it like

it build up peril based on what % of stamina it took

rather then what ammount of stamina

[unique lance]

Really ? , with the head shots I can't feel it that broken

[rigid sky]

Ding ding ding

[upper sun]

you get 4 peril usually with deflector 3

[icy garnet]

also what modifiers do you want on purgatus

[upper sun]

more like 3.5 actually

[cinder moon]

shoot it into crowds and rejoice in hearing the repeated sound of voidstrike claps

[icy garnet]

is flak damage good on purgatus

[vestal fulcrum]

It is indeed

[icy garnet]

theres this on the shop and im wondering if its worth buying

[vestal fulcrum]

Burn > Radius > Quell > Damage = Warp Resistance, probably

[icy garnet]

what about perks

[vestal fulcrum]

Flak + any other damaging perk you like, or Crit Chance

“Any other” I.e., Maniac and Unyielding are probably the most widely applicable ones

Unyielding especially

[rigid sky]

Oh man, if you swapped damage with cloud that would be perfect

Just needs Flurry and Nexus on it

[icy garnet]

ill buy it then

[rigid sky]

Burn needs to be 76+ ideally. With 76 being basically equal to 80

[icy garnet]

unyielding ?

[rigid sky]

It's just the cloud radius is a bit low

[rigid sky]

Torching bosses is strong

[upper sun]

its fine but purge isnt very hard to roll

[icy garnet]

what i usually do is just do burn them a bit then swap to my force sword

for the dot

[rigid sky]

Cloud radius is really important though :/ it affects range too

[upper sun]

you only REALLY need flak and nexus you can get by not having flurry

[icy garnet]

i dunno how much it stacks

[upper sun]

since charge is really fast even without it

[rigid sky]

15 stacks

From Purgatus

And then you can add Venting Shriek on top for 21

[icy garnet]

i run venting shriek already

theres something i dont like about the shield idk

[rigid sky]

Do the Shriek after you put the 15 stacks on

[icy garnet]

its boring

[rigid sky]

Shriek way better for Purgatus anyway

Burst damage long range that stacks well with your Purg

And feeds you warp charges

[icy garnet]

its also really nice you can use shriek while charging or firing

[rigid sky]

I only use the shield with Trauma and even then often I wish I had Shriek instead

[icy garnet]

im surprised it even works this way tbh

[rigid sky]

Shriek also helps with oopsie moments

[icy garnet]

does shriek effects are amplified past 50%

[rigid sky]

And also generates a bunch of toughness

[icy garnet]

or is a 50% shriek as much of a stagger as a 100% shriek

[rigid sky]

You want to Shriek at 84%+

For creeping flames

And I'm not sure about the stagger scaling, I feel like it might be linear up to 100?

But the most important part is the creeping Flames :)

[rigid sky]

Adds toughness through Quietitude to clarify

[icy garnet]

i usually use shriek to get rid of peril more then anything

i should get more used to it for other things

[rigid sky]

It's a strong offensive bomb

[icy garnet]

what % peril do you need on shriek to stagger ragers

its usually those guys who screw me over

[rigid sky]

With a very quick CD if you use warp charges

[icy garnet]

my build kinda struggles with being bomb rushed

[rigid sky]

(Just don't take the peril reduction node, essence harvest way better)

Best thing with Ragers is Purgatus LMB

While pinging furiously

Purgatus LMB pushes almost everything

Kills poxbursters too

[icy garnet]

ill try that

i also wanna test what i need to stagger ragers with venting

gonna do it now

[rigid sky]

Always aim to Shriek above 84 anyway

[icy garnet]

ye its just incase theres like 3 ragers on my face

so i can know if i can just press f to get them off

[rigid sky]

You want high peril anyway because of Warp Rider and Warp Nexus

[mental grail]

@rigid sky what staff do you use?

[rigid sky]

The force sword has great pushes too

[jovial juniper]

Yup

[icy garnet]

oh wait they actually do get staggered from a 0% shriek

[rigid sky]

He's talking about purgatus

[mental grail]

Oh, rip

[rigid sky]

But if you are asking me, I use everything apart from Surge

Including gun.

[mental grail]

Yeah sword push + vent will help

[icy garnet]

wait do stagger scales off peril

[rigid sky]

It used to, idk now but I imagine it still does

[icy garnet]

oh yea it does

i knocked him down with a 100% blast

where a 50% didnt

[rigid sky]

See how much damage the Shriek does too with flames while you are there

6 stacks from 84+ peril is enough to kill a lot of things

And don't forget the Uncanny trick for Crushers :)

[icy garnet]

?

[rigid sky]

Crushers have Carapace which resists soulblaze a lot

[jovial juniper]

Yup

[rigid sky]

But if you set them on fire a bunch and then take your melee and get some Uncanny Strike stacks up

[icy garnet]

i usually just spam brainburst on them

[rigid sky]

Your Blaze gets rending :)

And you can stack 4 Uncanny stacks up in one strike with a Deimos special light attack to the head

Try it out in the Psykhanium

You just need a Deimos with that blessing

[icy garnet]

i dunno if i have the blessing

[rigid sky]

Well one day at least

[icy garnet]

wait the push on this is actually way stronger then i thought

[rigid sky]

There are two pushes on it

[icy garnet]

i didnt think i could knock down crushers and ragers wth

[rigid sky]

The regular one is already pretty good but normalish

[icy garnet]

ye the second push is actually really strong

i can stagger crusher with the second and if i use it again it knocks em down

i should use that more often

[rigid sky]

And then the push attack is a targeted long range HARD push

You can push gunners over with it too

[icy garnet]

you mean that if i land the first push on something the second is guaranted to hit no matter the range ?

oh wait no the range is actually just really long

[rigid sky]

You can do it without needing to hit the first push lol

[icy garnet]

that is some absurd range holy

hits from like 5 meters away wth

[dusk void]

Is it me or am I a sucker for only playing in auric heresy with the high intensity shock troop gauntlet modifier?

[upper sun]

nah auric heresy is fine

easier than normal heresy

[icy garnet]

whats the dif

never tried auric

[upper sun]

people are stupid in normal heresy

[potent echo]

auric just spawns more stuff/events before it starts to chill

[mossy slate]

Guys Mallaice is hard while leveling

for me at least kek

[plucky flax]

It's okay I play sedition.

[unique lance]

But actually am going warp fury and transfer peril

Surge its more like a critical way

[rigid sky]

Flurry/Nexus is also legit

I'd probably prefer that over flurry/transfer, you kinda want peril to spike for venting shriek

[unique lance]

Seema legit

[dusk void]

Even with the High intensity shock troop gauntlet modifier, one of the hardest modifiers in the game?

[upper sun]

i mean lets say i carry one person on a good day

in normal heresy its 1v2000

in auric heresy its 4v2000

its far harder to play when one person is stealing ammo one person dies to basic mobs and one person is typing in chat mad as hell for something stupid

thats my heresy experience anyways

[halcyon gust]

Might as well make the jump to Damnation

Since the average player in Damnation is decently competent

[icy garnet]

i wish blitz charges recharged on specialists and not just elite

specialist gauntlets are my bane

never have brain burst charges because of em

[errant pawn]

Best build for secret hard mode karnack twins?

Thinking to lfg for one later today and would need to practice in a new build

[upper sun]

the best build is ||Hammer zealot||

[vestal fulcrum]

||4 Ogryn ||

[errant pawn]

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s about as straightforward as it can get

Get two pals clubbing, one shooting, one supplementing either role

[errant pawn]

Rip me who only has the psyker levelled/geared up I guess. Time to get to work

Buut if thats the way it goes so be it. Thanks for confirming that 👍

[mental grail]

This +1000

In normal you are being dragged down by 3 brain-damaged amoebas

In auric, generally its 4 competent players teaming up

exceptions notwithstanding

[upper sun]

you dont even have to be great for a run to go great two good players and two alright is usually enough

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s not my experience, most of the time

It’s usually competent folks

But sometimes I get three newbies, like fresh Lv30 players

And these runs can go in different directions

[mental grail]

oh yeah

the exceptions are usually violently memorable

[orchid shadow]

Those are the most fun. 😛

[upper sun]

i joined an inprogress game once and people were violently pinging in opposite directions during elevator waits after that run went great

little did i know the game duration was 37 minutes

[mental grail]

[vestal fulcrum]

They can be fun, for sure, just not in the way I’d like, I suppose

[mental grail]

good lord

I like my runs to be forgettable

[upper sun]

[dusk void]

I had this one dumbass play in auric that went up to two demon hosts and died twice.

I also had this one ogyrn fighting off enemies without doing the objective 🤦‍♂️. This leads me to believe that they are still some incompetent players in the auric

[mental grail]

yeah, safe to say you weren't the first person to backfill that squad

[upper sun]

they just needed a little push

[mental grail]

I have a feel incidents like that are 100% the reason DHs are one kill only

[upper sun]

ye also if it aggros back then it was better to run away even if your team could kill it so it doesnt kill the best player as well as the guy who aggroed it

[mental grail]

they needed a poor, forsaken soul (you) to drag them, kicking and screaming into the Valkyrie mostly alive

[dusk void]

One kill if a Zealot has the Thunder Hammer. Other than that, I avoid it completely

[orchid shadow]

Well that's boring. 🙂 You went your missions to be meh with nothing interesting?

[dusk void]

Try an auric heresy with a 53 minute game duration

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoAXGWBp2rk

only clutch i have to my name so far bot spawns helped a bit tho

sad since my zealot level is like 1/3rd of my psyker 😢

[crude vortex]

cool as a cucumber