psyker-class

[vestal fulcrum]

I still would use Taxe as an actual weapon, had I not fallen victim to the Deimos, the end-all-be-all single target weapon of Psyker, bar DS4

And usually staff/blitz/Shriek kills hordes better than a melee weapon does

(I always have at least Smite, Assail, or Shriek - and 3/4 staves can effectively horde clear)

That is partly the idea, yeah

When this succeeds is knife, because knife has silly blessings like Flesh Tearer, which can give you a free DoT to damage bosses for relatively free

Taxes don’t have that

[rigid sky]

DS4 makes you move plenty fast too

and it's actually strong as fuck

[vestal fulcrum]

The only redeeming quality about them is that 1) they make melee game interesting, and that 2) their special is very handy for quick interruptions

[radiant frigate]

but then you have to live with the fact that you could have chosen a magic sword but didn't

💀

[rigid sky]

Very true

hence why, after trying DS4 out for a while, all my loadouts with it ended up defaulting back to Deimos lol

it just feels right

although with Deimos you hardly ever use the spooky stab

which makes me sad

[vestal fulcrum]

I only use Deimos, basically, but not because it’s a magic sword, unless the magic = H2’s stupid stagger impact values

[cosmic sigil]

i do not feel safe with ds4 in a crowd tbh

[rigid sky]

I miss when Obscurus was the best and you were forced to spooky stab certain enemies

[plucky flax]

It's when you don't want to use the OP combat axe but still want to play an axe. (on zealot and vet anyway)

I don't play any axe on psyker.

[rigid sky]

If you catch an elite or special on their own though, you gotta do the spooky stab just for the sake of utterly styling on them

[radiant frigate]

combat axe is OP?

wha

[vestal fulcrum]

Brutish weapons indeed

[plucky flax]

-_-

[plucky flax]

Sarcasm?

[rigid sky]

and there's that special tech for stacking blessings fast with a special light head poke that Mankar keeps going on about for Purgatus

[radiant frigate]

on your part?

[plucky flax]

No u

Everybody know combat axe is massively op on zealot.

[radiant frigate]

i don't

is it a martyr thing

[plucky flax]

[rigid sky]

It's a bromentum thing

[plucky flax]

Momentum works too.

BM + headtaker and martyrdom/momentum.

[radiant frigate]

i guess

[rigid sky]

if you get one that can one-shot bruisers with a headshot

[plucky flax]

Just smash left click and win.

[vestal fulcrum]

Martyr just makes your breakpoint issues non-existent

[rigid sky]

then you've got one of the best in the game

[radiant frigate]

either way i don't really play zealot

and when i do, it's evis XV

[rigid sky]

You don't need Martyrdom if you have a good roll on one

[vestal fulcrum]

You will oneshot everything you need, and kill everything else slightly faster

[rigid sky]

Veteran and Psyker can both get the same use out of it too

and the heavies are great vs armour

[plucky flax]

I don't think it's good on psyker just cos it's slow af without attack speed buff.

[rigid sky]

also Psyker has Illisi

[vestal fulcrum]

Why don’t Psykers have attack speed buffs, I wonder

[rigid sky]

which is like embarrassingly strong

[potent echo]

Psyker melee attack speed buff talent when

[radiant frigate]

i can't really imagine it being better than illisi

[vestal fulcrum]

Must we be held at the fraction of our power

[radiant frigate]

more melee psyker support when?

[rigid sky]

Warp Speed should give melee attack speed too

[vestal fulcrum]

I wish there was more of that

[rigid sky]

you can't change my mind

(the mid node for SG)

[radiant frigate]

Yes

yes it should

[vestal fulcrum]

There isn’t even a proper “melee” keystone, and no, DD doesn’t really count

[potent echo]

If gunker, what about clubker or bonker

[radiant frigate]

DD is decent for melee

but it isn't a melee keystone

[plucky flax]

On psyker not as strong as illisi. But if you compare antax/rashad on zealot vs psyker with illisi.

[rigid sky]

DD's great for melee lmao

[radiant frigate]

not really anyway

[rigid sky]

you can one-shot mutants with Illisi with it

[plucky flax]

The combat axe on zealot is strongest melee weapon in game.

[radiant frigate]

Yes

and it feels great

[rigid sky]

like it takes a shit all over Deimos' niche

specifically when you have DD

[radiant frigate]

you're just zipping across the battlefield slicing heretics in half

big recommend

[digital narwhal]

Mk VII Tac Axe is right there, homie

(For legal reasons, this is a joke)

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

if i can go back in time i would stop myself from taking any advice from realasianrobot

uhhh just grind malice if you want plasteel i totally made a real excel sheet its the most optimum way!!!

even if a damnation game runs to 35 or 40 minutes its still better

[halcyon gust]

A average Damnation game (depending on modifiers and class comp) will get you a nice chunk of plasteel per game unless everyone decides that opening boxes isn't worth it for some reason

[untold niche]

i cant find thbat user

[plucky flax]

Play knife zealot and pick all the plasteels.

[halcyon gust]

Or let a Recon storm trooper do it

[plucky flax]

Wait this guy is making helldivers 2 stuff now.

I heard his darktide takes are trash.

[upper sun]

yes a darktide youtuber

[untold niche]

watched one of his random vids and i found the way he talk to be very fake
i have high confidence its fake based on some information available in the video description

[cinder moon]

the thumbnail alone would make me select don't recommend this channel

[vestal fulcrum]

It occurs to me that reading the script (it seems that Claystheyics is referring to such) is… not coming very naturally in the end result, which might give the sensation

But that’s just my take

[untold niche]

no i meant realasianrobot

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh, my bad

I may watch something of theirs and elaborate

[wet belfry]

I sent data tables about a weapon to clay explaining why he underrated it

and got banned for it

[untold niche]

data is just numbers

[vestal fulcrum]

[wet belfry]

So yeah that says about everything you need to know about him

[vestal fulcrum]

Denying the faccs ™️

[untold niche]

you send it in his discord wilmer?

[wet belfry]

Yep

Havent bothered with him in any degree since.

[untold niche]

idk i stopped watching generalist youtubers that hope to everyother game like uh boomstick gaming

[upper sun]

THE NUMBERS WILMER WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!

[untold niche]

i started watching him because ign stole his dead cells review, but then after a while you realize his review is basically play 40 hours then review + draft up some content like "How to use every weapon in XY game"

[upper sun]

worst part is now after i learned to notice AI content better i cant stop notcing people using templates

idk if you follow skyrim/fallout stuff but theres a guy called juicehead

and ALL of his videos end with "overall blah blah blah :)"

[untold niche]

i mean templates are predominant in youtube since forever
10 types of [contextual people]

[upper sun]

How FEAR AND HUNGER ruined me.....

[untold niche]

that sounds like the uh

why x game didn't die, it was murdered

whats that guys name again

[upper sun]

yeah the video essay type

[untold niche]

used to watch him until i found it very stupid

[upper sun]

napox?

no wait

pyrocynical?

[untold niche]

cleanprincegaming

but i stopped watching video essays

i found them really "neutral" ?

like i could have just come up with that opinion myself if i experienced it

[upper sun]

i dont actually watch them

[untold niche]

so i don't get why im watching someone state their opinions.

[upper sun]

i just put them in the background while i grind weeklies or clean or do w/e

[untold niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0WWbpBxLCI

its 20 seconds long

oh 14.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WyKYB4sg2Q
this oneis 18

[upper sun]

deep breath calm music lights cigar THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION and how it relates to stardew valley

[untold niche]

no,
"Why stardew valley is a modern reflection of the industrial revolution "

and then theres alot of brainrot pointless content that tries to be insightful but is meaningless

[upper sun]

pretty much

but its the perfect thing to listen to while playing knife zealot

the king of knives is on btw do not play assassinations today

[untold niche]

why not just focus onthe game

or play something more engang

engaging

[upper sun]

i cant enjoy the game with weeklies hanging over my head

also knife zealot can be played with one hand

so i can drink coffee while playing or something

[untold niche]

why you care so much about weeklies :(

[upper sun]

autism

[vestal fulcrum]

So I tried to give one video a listen

But it’s demanding so much of my attention that I’m losing interest in it immediately

[upper sun]

Vets have lines bitching about plasma

pretty sick

[untold niche]

like in game or you mean is discord

[upper sun]

in game

[untold niche]

its only like 20 seconds to hear his accent tho >:v

[upper sun]

why dont we have lines bitching about staves

[digital narwhal]

Yeah and he's just as clueless about Helldivers 2 as he is Darktide.

[upper sun]

Oh wait ITS BECAUSE THEYRE BETTER

[digital narwhal]

He's making clickbait titles to attract rage clicks and new players who don't know any better.

[glossy ember]

where scrier surge staff video

i saw one from u named "blitz cancel"

[upper sun]

yeah the way you blitz cancel is when you altf4

[plucky flax]

Yes you inspired me to meme.

But no gazer tho.

Just the good build with advanced tech.

Although I literally only did it for that vid. When I play normall I just cast normal surge. Too much effort for 10% extra efficiency.

[glossy ember]

smh

[hollow current]

is this the guy that said taking mutants on melee perk was bad?

[plucky flax]

Not sure I don't watch his stuff.

I only watch my own stuff. (pls dont)

[untold niche]

but you are my idol

🐭

|| tbf i never watch your stuff either other than the videos you post here ||

[plucky flax]

It's half meme half serious.

[still pelican]

I had a dream where I tickled slaaaaaanesh's girl balls. Big daddy E joined in and one by one, we killed the chaos gods with the same methods they had used to tempt mankind. The end.

[untold niche]

Dude what the fuck

[upper sun]

uhhhh

its good practice to vent before going to sleep sibling

[untold niche]

@spice veldt Ok so
sliding with stam duration if crouch held down, 1.26x
The best i can hit slide duration if crouch held down while no stam, 1.23x

holy shit the timing is tight

current best 1.24

can you record yourself doing it :p

if/ when yo uare free ofc

:v

its hard to believe you can do full stam slide when no stam

https://streamable.com/i1sviq

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately i once again have mixed feelings about surge

[fresh reef]

bro's takes with HD2 are just as shit

[radiant frigate]

idk who that is and i don't care to find out

[fresh reef]

good

don't 👍

[plucky flax]

Nice all the youtuber guys are just echoing each others anyway. And most stuff are found first on reddit.

Then they just essentially drag out a shitty 10 mins vid for views.

[fresh reef]

guys, this is the MOST OP BUILD, in #helldivers2

⤴️ 🔴

[plucky flax]

Let me guess. Railgun and shield backpack. Xd

Everyone and their mums run it.

[fresh reef]

<insert hypereactice face pic here>

[plucky flax]

Youtubers didn't make that build popular.

[radiant frigate]

is it shield backpack railgun 500kg bomb breaker and redeemer

and whatever 4th stratagem

[fresh reef]

the "I'm bad at the game but want to play Diff 9" starter pack

[plucky flax]

I'm sad they are making arc thrower vids now.

[fresh reef]

I'm 1000% convinced that shield backpack is entirely a skill issue pick

[plucky flax]

I've been playing it since the start.

[radiant frigate]

anyway not too fond of railgun

arc thrower goes hard

arc thrower is the anti everything

[fresh reef]

I personally love the railgun, but I force myself to run it in unsafe mode constantly

if I'm going to be powerful, I need the chance to instantly kill myself

my inner psyker shining through

[plucky flax]

I only use unsafe against titans.

It's 2 shots to take out charger's legs regardless.

[fresh reef]

I'm entirely aware of its breakpoints, I assure you

[radiant frigate]

does safe mode even do damage

all my comrades said you need to go unsafe to do hig damage

big*

[fresh reef]

is does significant damage to weakpoints, and for most breakpoints that you care about it does just fine

like, safe or unsafe railgun will oneshot a Hulk to the eyeball

[radiant frigate]

idk i just care about the anti armor performance

[untold niche]

idk i feel hd2 pretty obvious what is strong and what isn

[hollow jolt]

Who cares about breakpoints? Got to get my dance dance revolution combos flowing

[fresh reef]

yes but to the average player who's open mic while listening to shitty soundcloud rap, it is not

they need that 10 minute video that's about 4 times down the regurgitation cycle to tell them what works

[untold niche]

i think its mostly peopel who don't want to waste their in game cash

for strategems

[quartz barn]

Tbf for whatever reason the ps controller's mic is set to open by default

Also turns itself on when you already had a mic plugged in and it will automatically swap the active mic

[untold niche]

can you set all crosshairs to be like a specific crosshair?
|With mods, without mods

[eager mantle]

Yea https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/48

[plucky flax]

I haven't had too many open mic dudes. Even if so muting is easy enough.

[sacred crane]

Which of the psyker voices feels like the most powerful/deep in the warp

[upper sun]

sadly 😦 the french people

[half iron]

the seer is cute enough that they’re john/jane warp

[upper sun]

which is the seer again?

i only know crazy/romanian/french

[half iron]

beloved

[rigid sky]

Loner is the most fun imo

[untold niche]

thanks, no wiithout mod option eh?

[rigid sky]

but tbh I like all the psyker voices (but the savant a little less than the others, but they're a "good" normal at least)

[half iron]

savant is my least fave

[upper sun]

aaand thats...?

[half iron]

french

[upper sun]

no its the best 😠

[half iron]

protocol suggests you chase the bag‼️💯🗣️🗣️🔥

[rigid sky]

Seer and Loner are just more interesting

but savant still isn't bad

[brave fiber]

Rolled a pretty damn good Deimos… 21 damage off of one shotting a mutant with h2

I’m going to cry

[untold niche]

not gud enuf

do betur

[brave fiber]

Literally 1% more in any of the damage stats would’ve made it work

granted I run nothing but warp charges so it only matters if I have zero which is not often but still

[upper sun]

90% of the time the mutie will catch a few bullets before heading to you

or run through fire

[brave fiber]

it wouldn’t need to even catch a bullet just stub its toe a bit while running at me

[upper sun]

or get a 1L from anyone else

[brave fiber]

I saw that message you can’t escape

[plucky flax]

Staff left click it first before it's near you.

Unless you're running purga.

[brave fiber]

Yeah but that’s less satisfying

but again realistically it’ll never matter as long as I have at least 1 warp charge

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[dim parrot]

met someone recently in game that could have been you from their playstyle, literally only fought with staff

[plucky flax]

Uuuh I use melee all the time if it's illisi.

[brave fiber]

staffs are the best close range weapon

[upper sun]

just bonk it

[dim parrot]

thought u were the anti asraval at some point

[brave fiber]

I only ever pull out my melee if I need to kill an ogryn or a carapace enemy

Or if I want to style on a rager

[plucky flax]

When I play my trauma though I get less than 50 melee kills.

With like 1.2k+ kills total xd

[brave fiber]

Like just lesser enemies or total including everything

I can never judge how well I’m doing with blaze trauma

Blaze trauma with charges is complicated, I never know when it’s worth to just fully charge or spam, or if I should be venting often or only when I need it

*all this assuming I’m perma 75-95% peril

[plucky flax]

Everything.

Just spam creeping flames. You get warp charges back so fast with trauma.

[brave fiber]

alr, I think I just get too attached to the charges I have because dmg is nice

Is it better to spam trauma at high peril or charge? Against hordes

[plucky flax]

So if you're fight crushers pack don't spam creeping flames as often. Since they don't take much damage from soulblaze.

But anything else just spam that shit.

[plucky flax]

What do you mean?

Full charge blast will nest bigger aoe.

[brave fiber]

my thought process is that shooting weaker blasts more often may proc soulblaze more often, I don’t know if it’s worth over just charging tho

that’s more or less what I’m saying

or asking

[plucky flax]

No I do full charge.

[brave fiber]

alr ty, I don’t think I’m doing bad with blaze trauma there’s just some habits I gotta make

[dim parrot]

is playing sg and dd with trauma recommended?

[upper sun]

no its mandatory

[plucky flax]

If you're very pro I guess.

[brave fiber]

I WILL kill you if you don’t

[plucky flax]

Me noob me use creeping flames.

[brave fiber]

I will hunt you down

It is required

[dim parrot]

try me

[brave fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/geosynth-geo-stock-curb-stomp-stomp-gif-23053926

[dim parrot]

cause im so used 2 playing with sg and dd that I dont wanna go back to vent and warp charges

[dim parrot]

god thats awful delete it

[plucky flax]

If you want some blaze trauma tips you can watch some of my vids. I'm top 1% blaze trauma for sure.

[brave fiber]

What’s your yt? I’d check it out

it’s nice to see other peeps dt gameplay cuz there’s still so much to learn even after hundreds of hours

Recently learned the ds4 heavy slide tech and it’s fun

[plucky flax]

One of many blaze trauma vid
https://youtu.be/BmMGD1ev5rE

This one is solo memeing in melee scab only including monster solo kiting
https://youtu.be/2PRiD-sWsNQ

[brave fiber]

Nice I’ll check em out in a bit after classes

also Hotline Miami ost based

[plucky flax]

[rigid sky]

Blaze trauma also works well with bubble EP

Lots of ways to build it

[brave fiber]

As much as I like ep, using warp charges is like psyker+

Just improves everything about your class in almost every way

[dim parrot]

but its so expensive

[rigid sky]

Expensive points though

They are great

But on the other hand

Machine-gun brain rupture goes brrrrr

And if you go bubble I don't really value the cooldown reduction element as highly

Psychinetic Aura is enough

[brave fiber]

I’m not even gonna try running gunker ever out of fear of embarrassing myself

[rigid sky]

That's the fun of it lol

We all sucked with it on our first couple of games

[dim parrot]

me and peril are

[rigid sky]

The secret is to remember that Gun is your secondary weapon after Assail

[dim parrot]

and that you're insane and that u actually should be running a gun

[brave fiber]

I also just don’t like 99% of automatic weapons in this game

[rigid sky]

Some people make it work with revolvers and headhunters shrug

[brave fiber]

If I ever try it that’s prob what I’d do

[rigid sky]

Think it defeats the purpose to me but idk

[brave fiber]

yeah, idk I always prefer having single powerful shots over a stream of bullets in most games

bolter is my exception for obvious reasons

[dim parrot]

imagine we get a sniper at some point

[upper sun]

i hate heresy so much

[dim parrot]

this is the way sibling

[jovial mural]

i heard some people are hoping for a melee staff
how would that work yall think?

[dim parrot]

make our emperor proud

[upper sun]

I TRIED

[rigid sky]

A primary weapon variant?

[dim parrot]

nono u dont understand, u not liking heresy is a beginning

[upper sun]

https://streamable.com/p58f6n

I just wanna do weeklies for ogryn

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

I have a solid 3 minutes of this

[halcyon gust]

When you have "Do X missions without anyone dying" And you end up with 3 Kriegmen in your squad

[upper sun]

I just wanted the dimantine

they wanted to see the emperor

[halcyon gust]

Or even better. You get the one that wants to blow up every Barrel they see

[upper sun]

Can they for the love of god add solo play

i just wanna do weeklies in peace

[halcyon gust]

If I need to blitz through the do X missions ones. I just do them on lower difficulties

[plucky flax]

Me I only play sedition.

[near wyvern]

Do X missions, do Y missions without dying and collect Z books are always rolled away for me. The dockets cost so little and all the other missions are done in a couple of games

[mortal granite]

So I'm pretty far from my psyker main days I can't make it through a match anymore

[vale violet]

even this can fail with stupid enough teammates. Had a day where i just needed one more.

first run one teammate ran off a cliff with no teammates near

second run a teammate got trapped right before a jump down so we couldnt get him, a couple of minutes from the last section

[upper sun]

3rd run a teammate fell through the ground with a grim and rage quit the game because that mission would have been progress for 3 weeklies

its me im that teammate

[halcyon gust]

I generally roll away books and Kill X enemies with Melee if I'm playing as Vet or Psyker. I roll "6 missions without a teammate" as 1 or 3 versions is decently doable

[halcyon gust]

To be Fair you got glitched

Though it is always a chuckle at the end of the mission

[upper sun]

it was so bad i went outside and touched grass

recon rifle
level 20 no border

im never gonna finish weeklies today 😢

[untold niche]

BRO

JUST HABE FUN

STAHP THINKING ABOUT DAILIES

[halcyon gust]

Ah yes the "No Ammo modifier"

[upper sun]

I HAVE AUTISM PLEASE BE PATIENT

[untold niche]

NO AUTISMO NOT EXCUSE

pepebeathand*

[untold niche]

my malice game im the one carrying when theres level 30s. had like 27 and a level 9 oggies and love to touch dogs

Also i had a game with some ultra cool +255 vet with knife. Lost within 10 mins

im level 17

[brave fiber]

highest difficulty is level 10 malice lobbies

auric maelstrom is easier istg

[untold niche]

yes

actually :v

[halcyon gust]

Nothing like a Damnation run and you're with someone that bringing their low level friends into Damnation to "Give them a taste"

The true difficulty 6 of Darktide

[untold niche]

i feel if you have foundations down the real difference between malice and a5histg is build

may be bold to say this but yeah.

[upper sun]

no chance theyre that guy no borders

[untold niche]

doubt so, im in SEA

[halcyon gust]

If you can go into a horde and only take minimal damage at the end of it that's good enough in my book

[untold niche]

then i may be a bad player

[upper sun]

they just died to a mauler

and yes im chatting while in game

[untold niche]

i saw difficulty 2, two people died to 2 maulers.

[brave fiber]

my favorite type of dt player are those dudes who run all base cosmetics on zealot or psyker who think they’re hot shit then get downed 8 times running ahead

[untold niche]

depend on how much you define to be minimal anyway

[halcyon gust]

Mimimal is like less than 10% your HP bar gone after a horde/Ambush event

[untold niche]

my vet actualy was pretty decent avoiding all the enemies but he choked when second last guy went down, didn't bother to save me when i was down tho kinda sad

[untold niche]

sometime i take like 20% if im on zealot
on psyker maybe more if its defence type areas and its circular

so not good for voidstrike

i think like bleed through from 50% toughness zombie hit will eat more than 10% hp iirc

[upper sun]

idk i take damage as zealot but from hoards unless it was a bad situation rarely

the fucking random ass groaner that spawns behind you tho those chunk me

[untold niche]

i never really bother not taking too much damage so long as i don't die

[halcyon gust]

Those areans are always rough for Voidstrike, but we make do with it sibling as that's my main go to staff

[untold niche]

i mean i do top charts but like after a while i just started face tanking everything

so long as i don't die imo i don't really care

[halcyon gust]

I try to avoid face tanking stuff as Psyker

[untold niche]

theres always a hp station

[untold niche]

on void i facetank like 3x crusher and 3x rager, no damage taken

[upper sun]

cant fucking catch a break

if i go into damnation i get two knife zealots

mondays are the worst time to play

[untold niche]

just play vet, most OP class but with mobility

50% tdr when over 70% toughness

[halcyon gust]

Iron will goes brrr

[upper sun]

but ogryn needs weeklies

[untold niche]

oggie?
Play rumbler shield

bleed shield

[halcyon gust]

Pick up lil uns, Stuff them in your bag, and Grofit

3 safe lil uns

[near wyvern]

can't believe I actually pulled off this stupid fucking build, used full assail talents + EP left side + surge staff with creeping flames in auric maelstrom, bleed knife as melee

[upper sun]

aaand damnation with blue gear is easier than heresy

[near wyvern]

yeah heresy is the worst

have to solo the whole map

[upper sun]

pretty sure i did zero damage aside from ogrynnades tho

[wind spruce]

Why do you even care what people are running? Just play the game and don't suck lol

[upper sun]

its a good indicator of what build i should use

if i see recons i just leave

[wind spruce]

Also, maybe play auric damn if you're not liking the players in reg damn. The quality of team-mates is better

Stop worrying so much about other people's loadouts

[upper sun]

cmon you know the chances

[wind spruce]

And if you're leaving because you see recons... just wow, dude. They are perfectly serviceable weapons. This game is not that hard, you can make the lower quality weapons work

[upper sun]

ofc i agree

but how do i know im playing with that guy

[wind spruce]

Well it sounds like you're having skill issues to be honest

I never pay any attention to my team-mates kit, and playing on apac south half the time I don't even have a full roster

[upper sun]

nah that game went fine

its the heresy stuff that didnt

[wind spruce]

Never play heresy

Easy solution

[upper sun]

youre right i fucked up

[rigid sky]

I check to make sure I won't be redundant

If somebody else has a Flamer or Purgatus, I won't take one

And I don't like going double bubble

[upper sun]

nah double bubble is great

your team can just hop from one bubble to another

[halcyon gust]

The real joy is Quad bubble

"Shooters what is that sibling"

[brave fiber]

Does the toughness regen stack?

[upper sun]

to a point

im pretty sure its capped

[radiant frigate]

had a "mostly shooters, reduced ult cooldowns" maelstrom once

three bubble psykers

legitimate snoozefest

it got exciting for a bit when like 2 crushers showed up and downed half the team because they forgot how melee works

[halcyon gust]

All Psyker games are funny because I swear Psykers just share the same Braincell

[radiant frigate]

earlier today i had a game with the elusive thammer assassin stealth zealot

he onetapped two daemonhosts and a chaos spawn

[halcyon gust]

How many Demonhosts were bonked?

[upper sun]

"emperor said its my turn with the brain cell"

[radiant frigate]

two, because that is all we got

i have to say it's a fine meme but i wouldn't run it

i could see that his horde clear suffered for it

[upper sun]

the combo to clear with the hammer is rough

[eager mantle]

Sibling. We must share

[halcyon gust]

I remember one Zealot I encounter was "Sir Bonk". His goal was simple. Bonk any Boss he saw

[radiant frigate]

sibling, let me have my turn with the voices

it's been so quiet

[halcyon gust]

You can keep the voices. Less reason to blow up with Trauma staff over use

[radiant frigate]

i am still undecided about surge staff

it's good but it's also bad

[halcyon gust]

I want to use the Surge staff

But I love sniping shit with the Voidstrike

[eager mantle]

Gotta share with the sibling this cool staff

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike :)

[halcyon gust]

Letting the warp flow through you

[halcyon gust]

It may not be the best staff I made, but it gets the job done

[radiant frigate]

solid doomstick

[untold niche]

72% damage hits BP?

[halcyon gust]

When I was brunt diving. It gotten multple 80% Damage void strikes

But they had low ass Charge rates

[rose dagger]

Assume you don’t have surge blessing

Tho flurry/nexus still good

[halcyon gust]

I have Surge

But Flurry plays so much better

And I use Void strike more as a Primary weapon

[cinder moon]

psyker is the easiest class to carry with, next being ogryn

[rose dagger]

Nah, voice of command carries hard and it’s brain dead

[cinder moon]

only time i worry about recon users is when i'm on vet or zealot

i've seen plenty of idiot commanders that never use voice

[rose dagger]

If anything Psyker is hardest to carry with since they’re the most fragile

[cinder moon]

playing flamer zealot and i had 3 teammates constantly stealing ammo, then they all went down and i spent 5 minutes kiting the histg horde while i looked for ammo, managed to finally clear them all out

psyker is absurdly powerful

if you know what you're doing, you're never in trouble

[rose dagger]

Every class has OP shit

[cinder moon]

sure, but psyker is a step above

[rose dagger]

Can’t say I agree

Ogryn feels the most OP

[cinder moon]

positioning and mechanical skill are more important on psyker than the other classes

ogryn is easy to do well with

[rose dagger]

Nah zealot is the most technical

[cinder moon]

zealot has a bunch of get out of jail free cards

all of the abilities, for example

[rose dagger]

Rarely see an impressive zealot

Good psykers are a dime a dozen

[cinder moon]

because psyker is that powerful

[rose dagger]

I mean, all of my classes are well into the hundreds level wise. Really don’t think Psyker is the most OP

Plasma is way more powerful than any staff

[cinder moon]

ammo economy says otherwise

[rose dagger]

Ammo is rarely an issue in Darktide

[cinder moon]

except when it is

[plucky flax]

The most op class is the class you're best at. Me it's psyker and zealot.

[cinder moon]

i can carry damn with all classes, psyker is by far the easiest

zealot and vet are doable but you have to work for it

especially if everyone is stealing the ammo

gotta love when director spawns zero grenades/ammo in boxes for the whole mission

[rose dagger]

Vet has power sword and plasma, maybe the most powerful melee and ranged weapons, and voice of command to boot. Such an easy carry

And ogryn is ogryn

Psyker and zealot are the harder classes to play

[cinder moon]

i almost entirely play flamer zealot, if people are stealing ammo and die it's going to be hard to get things under control in damn+; psyker on the other hand, just kill them with your mind, super easy, barely an inconvenience

[plucky flax]

Zealot not so hard with martyrdom combat axe.

Just press left click. Xd

[cinder moon]

axes are boring

[plucky flax]

Yes but op.

[cinder moon]

boring

psyker would also be boring but the vfx and mechanics are unique and fun, so i don't mind

[upper sun]

zealot can be as unkillable as ogryn

and also has fantastic melee weapons

[rose dagger]

Zealot is my most played by a decent margin as a matter of fact. I’ve just noticed good zealots are a lot more rare than good Vets or ogryns

Zealot carries hard if you’re good

[upper sun]

well vet is the most played

[cinder moon]

zealot skill floor is higher than the other classes, but the ceiling is also pretty high

psyker skill floor is lower, especially with assail, but the ceiling is arguably as high as zealot's

[worn beacon]

Zealot too zealous to die

Esp if he uses chastise the wicked

[kindred thicket]

I use relic to help my team

[worn beacon]

I hekp my team by killing literally everything as zealot

Stun grenade into chastise

Scream and swing

[rigid sky]

Chorus is dumb lol

Like I'm gonna trust a team of random assholes to capitalise on my OP invuln aura

[worn beacon]

Chorus is good only when you trust your teammates

[radiant frigate]

not too fond of zealot

[upper sun]

nah as zealot i help my team by ulting then pinging a downed teammate for 7 pulses while no one helps him

[worn beacon]

Which not many people do

[radiant frigate]

as zealot i help my team by playing psyker instead

[upper sun]

I love zealot but i feel like im not as useful as a psyker

[kindred thicket]

I usually use it when there's a lot of elites to let my teammates kill them

[upper sun]

except when theres a boss

[kindred thicket]

Ok but thunder hammer

[radiant frigate]

i don't really love zealot even though i used to main it

[cinder moon]

flamer/eviscerator with chastise is my favorite way to play zealot

[radiant frigate]

zealot no longer clicks with me

[upper sun]

ye i have a good one but eviscerator has far better clear even if its less boss damage

evisc is still good boss damage tho

[cinder moon]

that's what flamer is for

burninatin

[upper sun]

🤔

yeah I dont have one

[worn beacon]

Zealot with eviscerator mk15 and revolver is quite literally Mark Kruber loadout and I love it

[kindred thicket]

Yeah I just use what I like even if it's not the best

[cinder moon]

most revolver zealots i see end up being useless

magdumping into a bulwark shield

never shooting ranged mobs

[radiant frigate]

eviscerator XV is not thammer boss damage but it is still very considerable boss damage

and you're not stuck killing hordes one mob at a time

[upper sun]

then do a roll saying im hit im hit?

[cinder moon]

they're almost always carrying an axe, too

[radiant frigate]

how does zealot deal with bulwarks other than counterstriking them anyway

[worn beacon]

I used revolver one zealot

[cinder moon]

with eviscerator you just dodge left and rev attack

[radiant frigate]

should i try some of this "axe" business i keep hearing about

[kindred thicket]

⛈️

[worn beacon]

Maining veteran and playing vermintide actually gave me ideas what revolver is for

Sniping elites/specials

[cinder moon]

i never played vermintide, still understood what revolver is for

[worn beacon]

True

[worn beacon]

The ammo is way scarse so mostly you have to make best out of your ranged

[radiant frigate]

revolver is for when you're playing dark vermintide

[cinder moon]

most fun i had with revolver was on my gunker build

[worn beacon]

Eviscerator mk15 and revolver = Executioner sword + handgun

[radiant frigate]

real

[cinder moon]

is the mk15 that much better than the mk2?

[radiant frigate]

oh yes

[worn beacon]

Yes it is

[radiant frigate]

mk2 has some funny light oneshots though

but the armor damage is leagues ahead on XV

can onetap maulers to the shoulder with activated heavy

[cinder moon]

hm

how is it for horde clear in comparison?

[radiant frigate]

same pretty much

just easier to execute

[cinder moon]

99% of my zealot gameplay is flamer/eviscerator so i try not to use flamer for chaff

[radiant frigate]

since it's just lightspam

[worn beacon]

Mk15 has only horizontal lights

[upper sun]

mk15 has far better clear its pretty much an illisi with amazing boss damage

[worn beacon]

And overhead heavies

Guess how to use it

[cinder moon]

word

[brave fiber]

mk2 has better horde clear innately because it’s not limited to 4 enemies damaged per attack.

[radiant frigate]

much worse mobility though

but hey, it's on the class with the charge

[upper sun]

its fine zealot has +17 stamina base

[worn beacon]

Chastise the wicked

[radiant frigate]

and it is considerably worse vs ragers

[radiant frigate]

if you read the followup line you would know that too

[cinder moon]

i'll keep my mk2 then

[worn beacon]

I did read it

[kindred thicket]

Try the mk15 still

[worn beacon]

I just like the charge

[radiant frigate]

fascinating

anyway yeah XV is much better than II

[cinder moon]

i like how mk2 deals with ragers

[worn beacon]

Mk2 felt awful to use

[radiant frigate]

it's vermintide exec except it looks trash

[cinder moon]

if mk15 is worse on ragers, i'll pass

[radiant frigate]

i mean worse compared to illisi

i don't recall how mk2 deals with ragers

[brave fiber]

XV has much better single target damage in its heavies and rev, however the cleave attacks the mk 2 has are far better than light spam on the XV

In horde clear*

[kindred thicket]

You are supposed to shoot them

[cinder moon]

i'm not wasting my flamer ammo on a handful of ragers

[worn beacon]

I forgot about flamer

Oh look a limited ammo purgatus

[cinder moon]

flamer was the entire reason i picked zealot as my first class

even after the unjustified nerf, it's still alright

[radiant frigate]

lame

the designated melee class avoids melee

the entire reason i picked zealot first is because i wanted to melee

[cinder moon]

blaze away+overpressure flamer is just too fun with chastise

[radiant frigate]

turns out psyker was better for that, because i could skip the mandatory shooter encounters by just surging them

[kindred thicket]

Boltgun

[worn beacon]

Nothing chastise can't fix

[radiant frigate]

and then i could get back to the melee part

[worn beacon]

Honestly I like playing zealot

[cinder moon]

i didn't really like psyker that much until smite came into the picture, now it's my most played class 😂

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[half iron]

i came for the blue fire

[cinder moon]

messing around with other psyker builds showed me just how stronk the class is in general

[radiant frigate]

i came for the magic swords

and headsplosions

and spooky piercing blue eyes

[cinder moon]

laspistol/illisi/bubble/warpcharge+soulblaze nodes = hilarious

[half iron]

wizard with gun is cooler than john cadia with gun

[worn beacon]

I came for insane people

[radiant frigate]

i stayed for funny slav lady

[cinder moon]

i picked female savant, initially regretted, but always great when there's a bodyguard ogryn on the team

[worn beacon]

Which one?

[radiant frigate]

fem loner

[plucky flax]

That's german.

[radiant frigate]

no, that would be male loner

[half iron]

seer is mine. i like imagining mine going through some mason-reznov-type shii

[cinder moon]

best bodyguard ogryn+fem savant interaction

[worn beacon]

I've got female savant too

But since I had 1 more slot for a character

I made another psyker dedicated to be a gunker

[half iron]

gunker mentioned‼️💯🗣️🔥

[upper sun]

Ogryn and psykers are besties because no one else likes them

[worn beacon]

Bullied squad

[half iron]

i feel joyous when i’m the psyker in a team of 3 ogryn

[radiant frigate]

psykers and other psykers are besties

[cinder moon]

"don't stress yourself, sibling"
"thank you, sibling"

fem savant calling ogryns "hefty associates" always gets a chuckle out of me

[worn beacon]

And then there's professional vet shit talking cadia when cutthroat is on team

[half iron]

cadians deserve it and even less

[worn beacon]

"You wouldn't last a day on Cadia!"
"Uh huh, where's cadia now"

[radiant frigate]

in my heart 😔

[half iron]

“For Cadia!”

[worn beacon]

Cadia stands as good as a barstool with two legs

[radiant frigate]

people stand perfectly fine with two legs

a bar stool can do the same

[cinder moon]

a two legged barstool can still seat two people if you turn it upside down

[worn beacon]

You can try doing that

Come back with result

[radiant frigate]

alas, i am not a bar stool

[jovial juniper]

not a lass, an Ogryn

[rigid sky]

Overpressure does nothing ATM:/ once they fix it it's gonna be best blessing though

[cinder moon]

good to know, though, thanks

[rigid sky]

Yeah it's sad lol

[cinder moon]

at least blaze away works

watching bosses melt in my flames never gets old

https://tenor.com/view/kill-it-with-fire-fire-gif-13411041

[upper sun]

the repair mission 100% has extra fall damage

no one can convince me otherwise

[rose dagger]

Overpressure still doesn’t work?

[rigid sky]

Last I heard yeah

[upper sun]

more adorable lines

[cinder moon]

lol yeah, that's one of my fav interactions

[mighty cipher]

Savant and the ogryns is always a good time.

[cinder moon]

the one where she calls him "hefty associate" always gets me

[upper sun]

also good way to learn weird rarely used words in the english language

"denouement"

[cinder moon]

technically a french loanword

[mighty cipher]

What accent is the Savant?

[cinder moon]

fem is french

male is haitian or some such

[mighty cipher]

Thought so

[cosmic sigil]

fem savant VA is brit and male is from Zimbabwe

[cinder moon]

VAs can do accents

[long wharf]

it's not even a "loan word"

it's a french word

[cinder moon]

that's what a loanword is

[long wharf]

not used on a daily basis in English

it's not a part of the English language

[cinder moon]

that's why it's on loan

[long wharf]

that'd be like saying 'Kopfeln' is a "loanword" from German

it's not a "loanword", it's a German word

[cinder moon]

loanwords are words from other languages that are used without translation in english

[long wharf]

you're capable of speaking it, but that doesn't make it English in any way

[cinder moon]

it's not english, that's the point

[long wharf]

it's just a German word

[cinder moon]

kopfeln isn't a loanword

[long wharf]

just like "denoumonte" is a French word

it's not adopted into English

it's just a French word

[cinder moon]

holy emperor

[tired estuary]

You're telling me the VA for male loner and ogryn bully isn't simultaneously german and british

[long wharf]

yes, "adopted" as a part of the current language

[cinder moon]

denouement is a loanword, it's mostly used in literature or cinema

[upper sun]

it is tho

[long wharf]

it's a french word, not a part of the English language lexicon

fuck me, it's in merriam webster

[upper sun]

every word that starts with "ch" has frence origins

same for "qu"

[long wharf]

I'm well aware of common word origins

I just hate how languages shift over time

[upper sun]

i used to hit on frence teachers with this knowlage

[cinder moon]

in that case you should be speaking old english

[upper sun]

i would know

[cinder moon]

fucking purists

[long wharf]

I wouldst ifven I couldst

and denouement is in the English scrabble dictionary

that's about as official as it gets

sigh

[broken carbon]

thoughts on what to swap?

[long wharf]

alright, @cinder moon, you were right, it's a loanword

[long wharf]

nothing

unless you really want Deflector

but I wouldn't

[broken carbon]

i dont

ive been using this sword a lot

i just didnt know if i should swap specialists to like

carapace or something

[long wharf]

you could swap specialists to elites

[broken carbon]

true

[long wharf]

I'm not sure carapace is worth the perk slot for Illisi

check the damage table

[cosmic sigil]

denoumonte?

what

i am French

wth is that word

[long wharf]

if Carapace is about half the damage of flak or less, then it's not worth it

I meant "denouement", I misspelled

[long wharf]

and I am sorry.

[cosmic sigil]

cheese

[broken carbon]

yah its less than half

[long wharf]

I wouldn't bother with carapace then

[cosmic sigil]

yeah but as a French is very fakey

[broken carbon]

elites are gunners shotgunners n all right

[cinder moon]

https://tenor.com/view/omelette-dexter-laboratory-whisper-gif-15038986

[long wharf]

gunners, shotgunners, ragers, ogryns (minus mutant)

[cosmic sigil]

omelette au fromage

[long wharf]

this is the only French anybody needs to know

[cosmic sigil]

fixed

[upper sun]

Hey...

[broken carbon]

mutants arent ogryns

silly

yah i think imma swithc it to elites then though

[long wharf]

uh, I thought mutants were mutated ogryns

[cosmic sigil]

shotgunners are elite?

i am not sure

[long wharf]

they are

[broken carbon]

theyre too small to be that

[long wharf]

any enemy that has a kill message that isn't a specialist is an elite

[cosmic sigil]

oh wait, i was thinking about stalkers

they use a shotgun no?

[broken carbon]

actually theyre pretty similar in size

[long wharf]

yeah

mutants are ogryns

[broken carbon]

but im pretty sure theyre just normal humans jacked up

head isnt in the right place

its just a human with enormous muscles

[long wharf]

thanks to Nurgle

nah, it makes sense

[broken carbon]

like how a body builder will get giant shoulder muscles

[cinder moon]

it is 40k years in the future though, so it's acceptably deviated from "real" accents. all of the accents are hilariously stereotypical

[long wharf]

mutants are what Nurgle does to the ogryns

crushers and reapers is what the scab ogryns are

[cosmic sigil]

true dat

they could have hired a VA from France tho...

[long wharf]

hmm, the darktide wiki says mutants are normal humans mutated

[cinder moon]

i think the judge zealot is the only "american" accent and he doesn't sound like any american i've ever heard irl

[long wharf]

guess I'm 0 for 2 tonight, time to go be productive

[broken carbon]

called it

its just the organ placement

that gives it away

well

limb??

idk

[thick carbon]

probably because it isnt an american accent

[cinder moon]

non-rhotic though

and not identifiably "foreign"

[thick carbon]

it's quite distinctly english/british

[cinder moon]

the judge?

are you sure about that

[thick carbon]

yes

110%

[cinder moon]

i've never heard a non-rhotic english accent

he sounds pretty american when he tries singing the battle hymn

agitator and fanatic are pretty obviously english

[rigid sky]

And Maulers!

[long wharf]

yes, the list wasn't intended to be exhaustive

[rigid sky]

It almost was lol

[radiant frigate]

we do a bit of mauling

[upper sun]

i would do specialists to maniacs

but its perfectly fine as is

[north robin]

hi magician mate, is there any build focused on the smite ? i really like to play as support, thx 😄

[upper sun]

empowered psionics battle meditation maybe? either vent with creeping flames if you wanna keep it going for longer or bubble if you want more utility

[rigid sky]

Smite kinda naturally pairs with creeping flames imo

[upper sun]

works nicely with vent even without upgrades but yeah

[rigid sky]

Since Smite generates peril fast but doesn't do much damage

[north robin]

what u mean by vent ? i didnt have the game in english

[upper sun]

exploding ult that makes you quell peril

[rigid sky]

"Pure support" is kind of an unrealistic aim, but holding enemies still, gathering them up and then hitting the fire Shriek on them is great

[upper sun]

yeah you would still have to rely on yourself if a maniac jumps at you or you need to kill something

[rigid sky]

I use an EP Brain Rupture, Dome Shield, Blazing Trauma build for my support psyker

[upper sun]

BUT one of my easiest damnation runs had another psyker that only used smite while i was on purge staff while the two other guys delt with crushers

[rigid sky]

I kinda don't touch Smite outside of a Surge build that I never play

[upper sun]

every single thing melted

[dim parrot]

[pine relic]

You, cat man, stop following me

[spice veldt]

we should beat asraval up and eat them for lunch

[dim parrot]

ah arco u silly goose

[spice veldt]

no

[dim parrot]

yes

[spice veldt]

I am neither silly nor a goose

[tired estuary]

unfortunate

[dusk void]

A level 4 Rending Shockwave Blessing would've been killer with that staff, like the one I have

[pine relic]

It's not mine anyway

[deft heart]

What staff should I use for boss clearing

I use BB

And what keystone is good for boss clearing

[potent echo]

Uh none of them really

Melee/gun are our best options

Keystones don't factor in that much just stabby the head/pimple with an uncanny stick and you get respectable damage

[dusk void]

My chainsword does respecatble boss damage

[lavish glade]

Rev it up

[rotund fable]

Hadron bricked my sword again

[lavish glade]

Not horribly

[worn beacon]

Not terribly

You can change perks honestly and that's it

[dusk void]

Can someone tell me what to do with all this?

[hollow current]

gamble it all away on brunts trying to eek out 1% more dps on a godroll.

[pine relic]

Unless you waste them, with this update speed it's unlikely you will run out of resources.

[idle plover]

Mk v saber feels really awkward to use

[onyx sentinel]

Does +damage perks affects sources other than the weapon itself? Like shriek and grenades

[spice veldt]

i don't know if it still works on grenadees nowadays but it does work for DoTs

and for psyker, soulblaze benefits from +warp damage

[potent echo]

Oh yea did the assail fix also change kraknades 🤔

[magic kayak]

I've come to accept I'm terrible with the trauma staff

[onyx sentinel]

wait but does soulblaze also dips from the weapon's +damage perks

[magic kayak]

yes

[onyx sentinel]

I already don't like taking +5% crit on burn trauma, if so that's even more of a reason to take damage perks over it

32.5% crit -> 37.5% really isn't that significant

[near wyvern]

That's because you are calculating it wrong. 32.5% is around 1 crit every 3.08 casts. 37.5% crit is around 1 crit every 2.67 casts. That's around 15% increase in the frequency of crits (how often you are going to see one).

It's even more significant when you are at low perils.

[magic kayak]

yep

[near wyvern]

Increasing the frequency means more double procs, which is what you want for the soulblaze to actually deal damage.

[magic kayak]

yes then take into account your crit specific events like soulblaze

[onyx sentinel]

You're right but you'd have to consider the opportunity cost of, say, not taking +maniac perk. It brings down the breakpoint for ragers to just below 2 full charge from almost 3 on base. I prefer having that it especially when you get nurgle's blessings, rather than relying on exploding them with a crit. Also useful against mutie train modifier etc etc.

I just personally prefer the consistency of +damage in cases where it prevents a bad situation going worse

[potent echo]

Rager breakpoint with trauma isn't too big of a deal imo, 1 blast and they are on the floor, and you should prioritize cc over killing if they are swarming your team, and if crits happen they are probably either ablaze or dead from the crits

I would consider if they allow me to oneshot flamers, but I don't think it does

Because flamers you really want dead, and not cc'ed

[paper loom]

any axe fans know if ts ok or not?

[magic kayak]

yeah its not bad

[tired estuary]

rashad is technically better b/c its same moveset and cleave targets is kind of a fake stat but it's not extremely important. 100% Swap limbsplitter for bromentum and then you can swap either unyielding or deci based on preference

[magic kayak]

needs brutal momentum

yeah rashad is bae

cleave targets is basically worthless once you get brutal momentum

[tired estuary]

ngl I hope antax gets reworked into having an actual different moveset besides just push attack

[magic kayak]

same, I like they added so many weapons and I know that's a ton of work to get them all right but overtime I do hope that ends up being the case

[tired estuary]

idk give it sweeping heavies that can actually fucking cleave without bromentum and good st lights or smth

[magic kayak]

brutal momentum is how the axes should just come as a baseline I feel like

It's too game changing to the point its a requirement on axes to make them worthwhile

[tired estuary]

at least there's still another blessing slot to do smth with compared to vt2 just having swift slaying on literally every melee b/c other options are garbage

[magic kayak]

thats true

and they made it so not every blessing can go on every melee which is also pretty nice

Imagine brutal momentum on eviscerator

[tired estuary]

bromentum knife would be kinda sick

[magic kayak]

damn that would be amazing

or uncanny strike on thunder hammer with brutal momentum

https://tenor.com/view/sauron-lordof-the-rings-smash-hit-swing-gif-4849903

[plucky flax]

As a top 1% blaze trauma main I can confirm + crit chance and flak are best perks combo.

[wind spruce]

The relevant breakpoint is the non-crit trapper oneshot

But crit and flak are still better

[untold niche]

@upper sun 10 minute video essay just to tell you why casual is fun and good

[upper sun]

better than a 2 hour video on why good is good

[plucky flax]

Purgatus but I run up to shooters to flame them.

[upper sun]

How do you pick up zero plasteel

at damnation you must make an active effort not to

[rigid sky]

I see people spam take ammo and leave the plasteel behind sometimes

It's just maximum dickhead energy

[upper sun]

idk if a version of this saying exists in english but "like the man who shat his pants because he was mad at his ass"

even if you reach the max plasteel point no way you can untrain yourself from picking it up

[plucky flax]

Yeah the ogryn took the most ammo but no plasteels or diamantine.

Pretty pro actually.

[upper sun]

hes deep in the larp zone

[plucky flax]

My eagle from downtown!!

[upper sun]

such UI clutter 🥹

so much information...

[plucky flax]

My dt ui is the same Xd

[mental grail]

We need more glowing eyes

[rigid sky]

I wonder if it's like, I have all the consecrations I need, so fuck helping other people

I would cause myself a slight inconvenience just so somebody else doesn't benefit at all

That mentality

You know, being a tory

[mental grail]

ooh, political!

[potent echo]

If you have VT2 you get the flaming orange glowing eyes

[gloomy magnet]

and sofia version: blue glowing one

[untold niche]

of course, he lets his slaves pick the plasteel

[mental grail]

are they different than the glowing blue psyker eyes?

[gloomy magnet]

elder

[halcyon creek]

“Cutting off your (own) nose to spite your face”

[upper sun]

oh yeah lmao

[halcyon creek]

I like yours tho, it’s more puerile

[marsh badger]

need a suggestion on this DS4

[upper sun]

weakspot to maniac and its great

[marsh badger]

I heard weak spot dmg was underwhelming

thanks

[hollow current]

try changing out shred for precognition too

[agile hinge]

im watching an youtuber, for guide on psyker build, lvling up as assail.. he reccomends switching to malice at lvl 12, and disreagard gear?

[orchid shadow]

I find it actually easy to not be able to pick up an Plasteel as most of the time I'm always playing catch up guarding the back and everyone just rushes ahead to snap things up. I will however hoover up all the Diamantine people leave behind.

[plucky flax]

Yeah bring assail and just pick the hardest difficulty available.

It's a very strong and spammable blitz.

[crude vortex]

assail x venting shriek clears nicely

[plucky flax]

For levelling I'd recommend purgatus for staff since the scaling is less severe than others.

[agile hinge]

wow.. okay, and purgatus is the flamer staff? ( new to game..)

[plucky flax]

Yes me fren

[agile hinge]

ty for the help:D

[agile hinge]

so no go on support role while lvling up if i take shriek i guess?

[rigid sky]

What even is support role tbh, you kinda take your kit to round out your staff

Like I only really feel value from Bubble if I take Trauma

[crude vortex]

yes

[haughty schooner]

I run surge a lot so I’ll bubble and brain burst snipers n gunners

[manic lagoon]

Loser sparkheads

[radiant frigate]

bubble kinda useless imo

[rigid sky]

It's mostly just a screen to brain rupture behind

[jovial juniper]

2 shields supremacy

[hidden crystal]

I had an all-psyker mission earlier, me with void, two with surge, and one with revolver, and somehow the guy with the revolver managed to keep running out of ammo, despite having a plentiful supply of pickups.

(Sadly I disconnected right near the end, so I don't have a full scoreboard to look at for the mission).

[upper sun]

stupid question

but

what the hell does holding alt with a book do?

[jovial juniper]

As in giving them to the other player

[hexed geyser]

When you hold it in front of you? You can give it to someone else.

[jovial juniper]

Same with crates, meds, stimms

[upper sun]

nice

[jovial juniper]

But not grimoire

[upper sun]

damn this is not explained anywhere

so all this time i could have given books to bots

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

Afaik, bots won't take crate, meds, stimms....

[upper sun]

ughhhhhhh

[jovial juniper]

Yeah, sorry for the bad news

[upper sun]

why cant they fix this and add solo play so i can grind in peace

[hidden crystal]

This is something that really should be fixed; it worked well in Vermintide - even if you don't want to program the AI for bots actually using the items, it was good that bots could be told to pick up stuff and would hand consumables to players as they used their own.

(For one thing, it's irritating that if you disconnect for a few seconds, anything you were carrying just gets dumped wherever you were with no notification to the other players).

[jovial juniper]

Kinda weird that a player with grim disconnected, the bot kept it, the player reconnected, the grim spawned on my inventory, the mission said 31/2 grim and at the end it showed -3 grim

[slim hazel]

Hey, finna start out on Psyker probably. Got a question. I love the Blue Fire and Electricity stuff. Was wondering, what purpose does each serve? I know Fire can be DECENT boss damage with the right weapon, great horde clear too. From what I gathered electricity is basically a horde stun simulator but idk what else it does.

[harsh urchin]

i'd prefer cara over maniac

mutants are very low threat

and you'll have cara + uncanny for maulers/crushers and unyield/shred for boss damage

[lyric burrow]

id agree, although depends on what you value i suppose

[hexed geyser]

I'll start with lighting because it's simpler:
Smite (one of the blitz), spreads lightning between ennemies and stunning everything, while dealing next to no damage.
There's also a staff (surge) which does lightning arcs and deal good damage to a single target
Warpfire is weirder:
There's a 3 nodes in the tree that put enemies on fire; perilous combustion is good, wildfire (?) isn't as useful and venting shriek should always be upgraded with the fire node
The purgatus staff is like a flamer, not much differences.
Warpfire are dealt with damage over time ticks and the more stacks an ennemy has, the more damages he takes (that's the boss damage when you get to 15+)
Someone else can go deeper than that on those subjects, but that's a basic guide to them. Also check the pinned messages, atheneum is great.

[lyric burrow]

important to not that warpfire can be buffed with uncanny strike as well

[mental grail]

What's the point of Graia over Columnus?

Graia just seems worst in almost every way

[lyric burrow]

making it viable against all armor types, and very good at elite clearing

everything else is good

also venting shriek can apply soulblaze

if you take creeping flames

[patent jacinth]

It has an absolutely stupidly large cone

And disregards walls

[radiant frigate]

i thought shriek was pretty cool when i first used it

[lyric burrow]

at 80 peril ye massive aoe

[radiant frigate]

and then over time i realized that the area is absolutely ginormous

[jovial juniper]

Aka, save your teammates getting chowed by dogs

And wake DHs up

[rigid sky]

I think the magic number is 83.4 and up

Pretends to be defensive support ult, is actually massive area burst damage lol

[lyric burrow]

Puts stuff over cap too

Pretty crazy lol

[tulip kettle]

yup shriek is undeniably amazing, especially with creeping flames

now they fixed gunner knockback nonsense i really dont see the value in bubble at all