#psyker-class

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mighty cipher
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I’d be fine with the heinous damage falloff if they either made it even more of a shotgun and let it just vaporize anything super close to you with BR levels of base damage, or having it floor anything in its path with Deimos H2 levels of force.

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What the hel is that

austere crest
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it would be a cool spinoff from venting shriek and smite to blast a kinetic electric field that stuns the group in front of you the same shape and CF for like 2-5s depending on peril level, and gave a little charge rate increase for a few seconds

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but then i just picture i smite playuer with all their laser weapons laughing maniacally

austere crest
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will use this one instead

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makes more sense

mighty cipher
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I’m going to have a stroke

halcyon gust
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Siblings. I think we need to check this Skudie person if they been corrupted by the void

mossy slate
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Best staff for Psyker?

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for leveling

upper sun
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surge i would say easy

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its easy to build

lapis violet
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it is a lvl 4 blessing, but not the right one

jovial juniper
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Keep the team safe

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Or the alternative

weary crane
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Smite is better for that lol

jovial juniper
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Smite

lapis violet
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smite surge is always going to be useful

jovial juniper
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Glad we're on the same wavelength

halcyon gust
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And then I just saw the Charge stat

weary crane
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The problem with that stat is ambushes, its very rarely the enemies line up properly

upper sun
lapis violet
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i have a good voidstrike

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just looking for surge or nexus 4

upper sun
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ye i feel you i only got those through melk after a lot of grinding

lapis violet
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and it was finally a lvl 4 blessing but it wasn't one of the good ones

halcyon gust
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Could be worse

lapis violet
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need to level my other psyker character

halcyon gust
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Hadron could give ya Terrifying Barrage

lapis violet
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but it's such a pain

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i actually kinda like terrifying barrage if i have nothing else

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"could have been sustained fire"

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or "could have been opening salvo"

upper sun
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im in damnation with bubble gunker

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pls help

halcyon gust
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Best I can do

lapis violet
upper sun
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best part about getting terrifying barrage is that you know you wont get terrifying barrage as second blessibng

lapis violet
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truth

halcyon gust
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There's times I where if my Perks are good

lapis violet
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goo

halcyon gust
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I will refine the blessing as Barrage Just remove that fucker from the pool

lapis violet
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that's actually a good idea

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i'm poor like 95% of the time but that's genius

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is there any melee blessing that's that way?

plucky flax
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When levelling your trauma's stat is gonna be poopoo.

lapis violet
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anybody wanna do this with me in a bit?

quaint fiber
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how do you even do that

halcyon gust
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Need to get around actually doing that one day

quaint fiber
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like do you just have to be the one spamming bb on it

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constantly

lapis violet
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private game, brain burst, go to town

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yes

quaint fiber
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who even makes that a challenge dudethatsnotcool

halcyon gust
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I think they fixed it that Brain rupture now works on it

lapis violet
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must've been long ago that it needed burst specifically

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a friend of mine did it with rupture semi-recently (last patch)

halcyon gust
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I can help ya with it. I need to get around doing the same thing for my Psyker as well

lapis violet
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i don't think bots would enjoy us doing this, unless we let them get downed and just do a duo

halcyon gust
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The bots are gonna be the most annoying part

lapis violet
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like, i would have gone full solo but bots would have been asses

halcyon gust
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Wish for private games you can choose to disable them

dim parrot
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ye that does suck, only chill with a full squad, unless u wanna wait for them 2 die

halcyon gust
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Would be best to get a full squad to attempt it rather than wait for the bots to stupid themselves to death

weary crane
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With a random team

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I just asked them not to attack and they actually listened

lapis violet
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still need private match

weary crane
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No

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Just recommends

dim parrot
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uh no

lapis violet
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"penance can only be completed in a private game"

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literally says it right there

dim parrot
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was just gunna say lol

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actually marked in yellow so u can see it better

jovial juniper
potent echo
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in the past there wasnt such a restriction, caused some angst in the community

mossy slate
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What abblity should i choose?

hexed prawn
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bubble sheild

mossy slate
hexed prawn
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and for the team

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love it

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the one on the right is good for a gun pyker i heard

rigid sky
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Pick the ability to match your ranged weapon

feral verge
rigid sky
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If you go Guns it's really sad to not take SG and DD

mossy slate
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and staff

feral verge
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which sword

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which staff

rigid sky
mossy slate
feral verge
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different weapons do better with different abilities

rigid sky
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They are all totally different

feral verge
untold niche
feral verge
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there is no best weapon

rigid sky
feral verge
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there is no best build

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all of the staves are viable

rigid sky
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There are best builds, plural

mossy slate
untold niche
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peesword + peegun "best" build
fite me

rigid sky
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But not overall best singular

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You can take staves if you like lol

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Dont touch Trauma till 30 tbh

untold niche
rigid sky
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But Purgatus is fine, Surge is fine

rigid sky
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Idk about Void for levelling but probably fine too

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And I'd honestly recommend Venting Shriek with Creeping Flames for starting out

untold niche
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don't touch void while levelling

rigid sky
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OK Void bad for levelling too

untold niche
rigid sky
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But Purgatus and Surge both love to have creeping Flames shriek

untold niche
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made by pygex

mossy slate
rigid sky
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Frankly all builds do, it's both probably the strongest in isolation and also the best for beginners

untold niche
rigid sky
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Take Soulstealer too though

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At least once you have Assail or a staff

mossy slate
hexed prawn
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magic missles go hard

vestal fulcrum
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I’m starting to consider taking Soulstealer as somewhat unnecessary thonk

untold niche
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just try to level asap on psyker

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psyker levelling sucked for me

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very painful

vestal fulcrum
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And not just on non-staff builds, mind you

untold niche
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soul stealer make me be able to tank zombie hits

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very funny

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shoot one void half toughness comes back

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same as one illisi special

hexed geyser
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Or assail spam

rigid sky
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Imo you want as many distinct toughness sources as possible

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Don't wanna eat a melee swing in between top ups

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And Soulstealer is a strong one

hexed geyser
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I remember doing that when i was leveling, i would tank hordes with assail, before it was nerfed KEKW_ogryn

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Now i only use smite as a utility

rigid sky
mossy slate
rigid sky
upper sun
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its useful if you wanna be useful

rigid sky
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Because Assail goes brrrrrr

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It's a staple survivability talent

mossy slate
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Assasil is so fun i fear im making my teamates mad when i run Sidition missions

rigid sky
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Assail is overtuned as fuck below Damnation

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Also being above level 1 is overtuned for Sedition lol

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If you have your proper blitz you can probably just do Malice

quartz barn
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dw pubs on sedition cant think let alone experience feelings

upper sun
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i mean you can do malice level 2 but the issue is even if you can play weapons are so shit one groaner is gonna feel like a crusher

upper sun
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yeah but i really felt that when levelling other chars

rigid sky
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It's fine though, you can just grind them out a bit. They're a lot less punishing at least.

untold niche
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on malice i really hated assail players
shoot the only guy i needed to gain toughness off from / proc some buff

Then when the horde comes can't do shit

onyx sentinel
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fashion has truly peaked

untold niche
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fs are bastards, they sell you a red set, except move the red headgear out of the set in place of a black one so you need to buy the red one

potent echo
zenith vigil
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wdyt about psyker and chainsword? 😄

rigid sky
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Chainsword is just generically great iirc

haughty star
buoyant maple
rigid sky
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It was better because of Surge being different from now imo, it kinda covered for Psyker being anemic because it was almost pure support

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Now at least Assail goes brrrrrr

haughty star
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I couldn't speak for it as I only did vet on the old system and put the game down cuz it was empty before skill tree

rigid sky
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Pre tree Vet was also kinda sad but still strong enough

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Ult refresh

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Goes brrr but only at 30

haughty star
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I do love me surge tho for my psyker. Haven't honestly tried any other loadout for it. A surge/smite psyker increases team survival rate alot

upper sun
rigid sky
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Idk, Void makes me kinda not see a point in Surge really

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Too one dimensional for my liking but it's pretty popular and strong

supple sedge
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Ulgo try psyker. Likes brain burst! Kill mutie and armor good

rigid sky
supple sedge
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Them too!

rigid sky
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And it sets up Bulwarks to get killed by your team

supple sedge
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Agreed! Very usefull

upper sun
rigid sky
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It's a Surge with a much higher skill ceiling

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And a slightly higher skill floor

upper sun
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it does still more damage

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i finally got a usable one and it does perform better

rigid sky
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Surge I guess is good at serial one-shots on elites and specials

upper sun
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shit yeah

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oops

rigid sky
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But it's just so

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Idk

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Vanilla.

upper sun
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wait no

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void does more damage than surge

rigid sky
worthy trellis
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Is the left keystone or middle recommended more for Surge Staff builds? I don't find myself swapping to brain burst very often, but I guess I like having it cost zero peril
I'm currently running bubble as well for the support, but haven't tried shriek in a long time

orchid shadow
rigid sky
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Don't they both do the same job?

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I'd probably go venting shriek, smite and warp charges tbh

worthy trellis
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Ya, that is what it felt like in that match. Was reading that BB is nice for long range, but that is very situational

rigid sky
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Your Surge kinda does your mid range for you. Maybe take Assail instead if you want to keep the longer range options?

orchid shadow
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I've been toying with going back to the original Surge / BB now that they fixed the Celerity Stimm. It'd be nice again for Monstrosities on weaker teams.

rigid sky
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but up to you obviously :)

rigid sky
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I always liked BR spam for bosses

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easy and safe

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genuinely one of Psyker's better options

orchid shadow
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Actually, looks like I was wrong. Surge is still better DPS

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That's kinda sad. 😛

rigid sky
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Yeah, don't bother with rupture on a surge imo

radiant frigate
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so surge does better boss damage than brain burst? even with resonance?

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much to ponder

rigid sky
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hard pass on it

silk vigil
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@austere crest nice try, we kinda fell apart when big daddy chaos spawn jumped in with the horde.

weary crane
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Assail is very good for spread out shooters

silk vigil
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Yeah I’d do it again. Didn’t pay attention to what the other psyker had otherwise I would’ve picked gunker lol.

plucky flax
orchid shadow
radiant frigate
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i wonder how well surge does with DD

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probably decently since it crits so much

worthy trellis
radiant frigate
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or does surge crit a normal amount

eager mantle
radiant frigate
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since the crit bonus stat says something like "melee critical strike chance" at the bottom

plucky flax
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It's crit chance. The text is wrong.

radiant frigate
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okay so surge tops out around 50% crit chance

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give or take

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7.5% base + 20-ish from the stat + 5% node + up to 20% nexus

eager mantle
radiant frigate
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the faster quell might actually be solid on this thing

eager mantle
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Obviously need to run sciers whatthefuck_heresy

radiant frigate
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scrier's gaze so you can blow yourself up faster with surge

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on another note, in my experimentation with surge + assail i found those two tools to be about equivalent to Just Running Voidstrike™

radiant frigate
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maybe surge assail is meant for a different setup

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but then again i heard assail does well with true aim

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much to ponder

orchid shadow
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Neither was using the Stim though

radiant frigate
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did you have the faster quell talent

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and/or power vs unyielding on surge

orchid shadow
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1m 10s BB if I pick up the +5% ranged damage node with EP

austere crest
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i feel so strong, the quell speed node is such a dramatic change in output efficiency

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its like my required reading

radiant frigate
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i can see that being very helpful with surge

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given how much peril it builds

harsh urchin
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quell node depends on how you like to play

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If you keep heat high and quell between casts it doesnt do much

radiant frigate
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i feel like it would be either core or pointless

harsh urchin
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But if you like to vent down after a few surges

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Its quitr nice

orchid shadow
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I've never really used shield before, but neat that it doubles Kinetic Resonance. With a Celerity Simm and dropping both shields you can BB a Nurgle to Half in around 10 seconds.

gaunt seal
# austere crest i feel so strong, the quell speed node is such a dramatic change in output effic...

Since you don’t run warp charges to cooldown your venting shreik I’m guessing you just save it for emergencies if you blow yourself up right? Could easily get rid of the upgrades to venting shriek then since the damage is middling and have 2 extra talent points to use on talents that get constant uptime. Just my 2 cents. I ditched the upgrades to venting shriek in exchange for some survivability talents and it helped tremendously in auric damnation

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Could use the 2 talent points to dip in to the base keystone of either warp charges or empowered psionics

harsh urchin
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Fire vent is too overtuned

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Not taking it is simply gimping yourself

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Its like vet not taking ammo aura

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The 1-2 points you saved are not completely worth it

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Taxe tbh is kinda a pro weapon lol

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It has great boss and elite damage

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But you dont really have any of the shit like rampage or slaught or cycler to help with clearing hordes

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So you end up kinda having to rely on your raw skill and fundamentals

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Which i personally am too lazy to do

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I prefer having an overpowered weapon with cycler BM cara and just stat checking hordes and crushers

eager mantle
harsh urchin
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Yeah the weapon is good

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Not as bad as people make it out to be

near wyvern
harsh urchin
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Ye exactly

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That's why i only bother with the generic melees on vet

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My taxe, knife, dclaw are all on vet

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Zealot and psyker melees are hard to compete with

upper sun
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RAAAAA FEED ME HOARDS

jolly vale
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Anything new in the past like 2 months

eager mantle
upper sun
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phone posters smh

jolly vale
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Ohkay?

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I meant like in the game for psykers

untold niche
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4am confessions

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ocassionally, i go to reaction test websites to tell myself that im not getting old

untold niche
harsh urchin
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Much better because taxe is a finesse weapon

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It has much better crit and weakspot scaling

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Caxe is mainly good because it can take advantage of BM

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Which is op as fuck

austere crest
harsh urchin
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Taxe BM is inconsistent cuz you need to crit, which makes me want to drop it cometely

spice veldt
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though even just half the time is p good

untold niche
harsh urchin
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Taxe just has higher dps

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Albeit the individual hits will be inconsistent

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Since you have to depend on crits

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Compared to a caxe where you can guarantee the BM threshold for example

untold niche
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higher dps because of speed or the base damage?

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also if talking about threshold, why does bm come into play

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i tot bm is only for hordes / blobs

harsh urchin
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Arco shall explain

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I'm about to go eat lunch

spice veldt
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i haven't compared taxes and caxes 😔

upper sun
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the force sword burster push is still bugged isnt it?

radiant frigate
upper sun
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i mean either that or they have a range far lower than ds4

radiant frigate
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😔

upper sun
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like

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i'm pretty sure i've pushed them before from greater range

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but with ds4

spice veldt
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it's going to be the same since the game cheats in your favor when pushing bursters anyways

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seems like the burster was slightly out of range and then the push-attack missed

upper sun
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seems like the game cheats with every weapon except force swords

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but im pretty sure ds4 at the very least has far more range

untold niche
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nah cheats for illisi as well

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a few times i don't get the hitmarker but i know i pushed

spice veldt
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i think you're just getting tricked by the animation

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the push comes out immediately after you do the RMB + LMB input

untold niche
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arco quick qn
if boss die, does everyone on the team instantly gets nade refill?

spice veldt
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and does not linger at all

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i don't think so but i haven't paid any attention to that

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since i'm playing either nade regen vet or throwing knife zealot

untold niche
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i see

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i used both my nade, then boss die then both was back
i don't think we took like 2 minutes to kill it either
Could just be mind tricks idk

spice veldt
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like just looking at this video, the only thing that looks weird is when you're trying to push it through the railing, and even that just indicates that you're out of range of the normal push, and the cheating push doesn't seem to proc if it's not in its leaping phase

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my guess is going to be that you're getting misled by the animation and thinking the push comes out later than it does

upper sun
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🤔

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but i can push it through thin objects

spice veldt
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yeah

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i'm saying that you were just out of range entirely

upper sun
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idk maybe it was the elevation?

spice veldt
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maybe

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the first frame where your stamina visibly drops (and thus your push comes out)

upper sun
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yeah i feel like it was the elevation then i would be pushing under it

feral verge
upper sun
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dont worry its from my gameplay

feral verge
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I know

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It is still disturbing

mental grail
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Anyone have a build for power up penance? I don't use brain burst like at all

upper sun
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brainburst + power ups vent EP and all the toughness nodes you find

untold niche
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there plugin for ovenproof to save levels

haughty star
untold niche
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im in malice (level 17) and the jager guy is a +54...

haughty star
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A bullet won't go through those railings either

haughty star
untold niche
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he told me to shut the fuck up when i said to stop wasting time at exfil

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i doubt so :v

haughty star
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I'm 45 on helldivers but typically play on challenging when I'm not with the bois on hd2

untold niche
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idk people in malice like to camp the last wave on exit

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i had one guy see the whole team in ship and just continue to swing

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the valaika guy was a +30 too

haughty star
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Sometimes it be fun like that one map where they pour off the ledge

mental grail
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Honestly yeah

untold niche
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i never noticed because alot of penances complete by themselves

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and the ones that don't i don't want to do anyway. e.g. thje brainbuster penances

upper sun
untold niche
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ah

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am playing vet and this perk is dumb good, esp when you run VoC
dude i feel like ogryn now. Kinda feel like it should get nerfed

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cosmetics

untold niche
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are you still levelling?

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eh, don't touch staffs until you hit level 30

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wait force staff? which one.

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uh staffs very build dependent

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build as in skill tree + the weapon itself

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but if you enjoy it go ahead

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ah surge

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when i was levelling i forced msyelf to use voidstrike because i wanted to get used to it, felt like peashooter

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because staffs depend alot on blessings

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but again if you enjoy it

upper sun
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most of the builds on the website are trash the guide pinned here is far better

untold niche
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just play it

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if you level 26, actually you can go on damnation

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yeah but their build is defo not your build

upper sun
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a little yeah youtubers are usually better

untold niche
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a staf without the blessings is quite different.

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and psyker needs level 30 imo

upper sun
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but the guide is still very useful

untold niche
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even 4 levels is big

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general guide.
yellow means majority agreed but debatable / depending on context

For assail, only the pen is needed.

upper sun
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dont worry about it by the time you're 30 youll get a better surge its a very easy to build staff

untold niche
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i think i started damn on 22

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usually when i grind for t4, anecdotally its about 12 gold weapons
sometimes you get lucky though ofc
surge (blessing, not the staff) took me 10-12

upper sun
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dont bother buying or using resources until you're 30

untold niche
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you defo should take note of it yeah

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like if you took one of the red cross out node

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change it to something else

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try to have the greens and oranges (that are circled) as well

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but don't have a headache over it because you aren't 30 yet.

upper sun
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I would say the first node of assail should be green the second more personal

untold niche
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pygex's assail build

upper sun
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mb

untold niche
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for levelling

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the order

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since its a levellign build.

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the reason he took one of the red nodes is because he needed to cross over from assail, if you were wondering.

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this is 99% of what you need to know / able to do in DT @ornate hamlet

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uh never tried the build, if you do have spare points then that makes sense as well since its a levelling build

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btw you can shove dogs as well.

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and once you get good enough you don't stick with team

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not because of anything

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just because its not fun

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and plasteel

untold niche
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yeah, on this patch, you can stagger them before they net by shooting them, but imo not reliable so either side step or side dodge
in case you don't know, if you crouch after side/back dodge you do a slide as well

static needle
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This is from one shot of this revolver and 15 stacks of DD. Is there anything I can do to reach the breakpoint for this guy? Will 60% rending make me reach it?

untold niche
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you should get the numeric UI to see the number of slide dodges

static needle
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is rending really that good for unyielding tho?

untold niche
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so sorryu

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i meant

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you can prob 1 tap him with gaze

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not sure about unyielding

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rending*

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up to build
i dislike both KEKW_ogryn

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for assail, based on what i see, between warp and EP, EP is more popular

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usually its between EP and DD and DD has higher damage for assail

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yep

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for my voidstrike build

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it hits threshold the warp can't given same points

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iirc even with full warp build, it can't hit DD thresholds

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? how come

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uh i would recommend you not get DD for now

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it takes some time to get use to

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how many points do you have rn

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27?

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26?

radiant frigate
untold niche
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yeah thats just nice

untold niche
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but if you feel its not fun jus go back to whatever you were doing

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this game isn't worth these kind of effort, thats why i never qp unless im levelling/trying for godroll and never do penances

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to me at least.

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i feel this game the fun is more important than the grind

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other games it makes sense to reach high level fast in a non fun way bcause of end game content etc

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this game isn't like that, theres not much end game content

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yoru end game content is trying out builds and building for them

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i actually stopped at 220+ hours and came back just to try a vet build

silk vigil
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The endgame is going through twelve power swords just to get a lvl IV uncanny strike.

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Nah man, I wish.

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Keep getting deflector and executors which I got ages ago.

untold niche
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yeah but imo it would still get repetitive, others are fine with it
to me i hit like 90% of the skill ceiling, the last 10% is really positioning that comes off playing for long time. and maybe some clutch skills that i really don't bother about.

imo (ik i use this phrase alot lol)
the game needs skill expression, and to reward and encourage it.
They could have nerfed assail and kept the weaving tech but they chose to remove it.

Other stuff like rewarding slide quelling through skill nodes could be done.
But seems like the community wants more content in the form of weapons and maps, and stat balances

untold niche
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on psyker a5mael / a5histg, i can guarantee that i can for the top 5 stats get yellow/top. but even that gets boring, like im just on auto pilot.

Imo most people here reach that level quite fast

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the game really isn't hard "in game"

mental grail
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Yes it is

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Ur just good

spice veldt
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if you run the right builds, then you can autopilot

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e.g., caxe zealot

mental grail
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mfs with 700 hours in here saying you can autopilot

untold niche
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im genuinely not that great

spice veldt
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sure i'm a bit out of touch but the game doesn't exactly demand much mechanical skill

lyric burrow
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Yeah you can really auto pilot

untold niche
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if you play ogryn you can autopilot after 5 hours

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i started on ogryn

mental grail
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I can run auric maelstrom, but to say it's easy? Absolutely not

untold niche
untold niche
mental grail
#

Playing in pubs is so eye opening

untold niche
spice veldt
#

i too play in pubs

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i don't always play in premades

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and i actively go invisible to make sure that people don't ask to group up with me

mental grail
#

I literally still see psykers exploding

untold niche
#

if you can do all that, and you say a5mael is hard (other than when the director really go batshit)
i can say its build problem

mental grail
#

And vets forgetting they have melee

#

all lvl 30

untold niche
#

+3

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🐭

#

hi intensity shock troop gauntlet
basically the hardest non bullshit difficulty

#

maelstrom can be quite bullshit

spice veldt
#

i too explode though that's because i autopilot a lot on psyker

lyric burrow
#

Maelstrom is just a gimmick most of the time

untold niche
#

but usually even if they spanw like 2 bosses your team can handle it

spice veldt
#

it's not like you have to do any precision inputs or anything

lyric burrow
#

Like oh boy 46 poxbursters

spice veldt
#

the game is mostly a knowledge check and once you're past that, it's pretty light on the mental load

lyric burrow
#

Yeah

spice veldt
#

i don't have to do complex combos with most weapons or do well-timed dodges

untold niche
spice veldt
#

maybe, but i explode a lot even when i played a lot on psyker

untold niche
#

the hard mode yeah :v

spice veldt
#

i just get distracted a lot

lyric burrow
#

I also blow up here and there

mental grail
#

auric is still pretty difficult and requires you to know what to build and how to use it

lyric burrow
#

Im just kinda doing w/e and miscount

untold niche
mental grail
#

you guys are exploding at a5

spice veldt
#

ye

mental grail
#

what

lyric burrow
#

We also arent failing it

untold niche
#

not me im pro elite gamer

upper sun
untold niche
#

at a5, most of your teammates know how to deal with such stuff

mental grail
untold niche
#

unless its a big situation then you go down then jsut expect you won't get revived

spice veldt
#

yeah, since a good part of this game's difficulty is a knowledge check

untold niche
#

but usually when my a5histg/a5mael games get too easy i do really stupid shit so i can feel some challenge

spice veldt
#

and the tutorial in this game being fucking horrible

upper sun
#

THEY STILL DONT EXPLAIN AMMO CRATES

mental grail
lunar hollow
#

the amount of effort you have to put in wildly depends on build i.e ogryns and voidstrike users are completely thoughtless

spice veldt
#

if you compute the difficulty of this game as just an average of this playerbase, then sure it's hard

#

since malice has the most players

mental grail
#

I commonly see psykers using obscurus and vets running accatran in damnation

untold niche
upper sun
spice veldt
#

but if a player is willing to learn and gets past the knowledge check, the game is not hard if you run the right builds

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and it's not like you have to be as restrictive as you had to be in patch 12

#

a lot of weapons are very good nowadays and there are some fairly obvious "good talents" once you get past the knowledge hurdle

mental grail
#

the amount of psykers immediately spamming assail and immediately exploding

untold niche
#

idk if you played any other competitive game
to reach average there is prob harder than to win a5histg reliably

spice veldt
#

i could never

upper sun
#

using assail illisi void makes you have less iq than a potato

untold niche
#

like to reach gn4 in csgo is prob harder than to win a5histg

lunar hollow
#

games are not even close to comparison lmao

lyric burrow
#

Tbf surge also isnt big brain

radiant frigate
upper sun
upper sun
spice veldt
mental grail
#

no, no... let him cook

#

oops

untold niche
spice veldt
#

yeah the descriptions in this game could use a lot of improvement

#

and the sheer lack of a glossary is saddening

lunar hollow
#

yeah but tide games aren't competitive

lyric burrow
#

Yeah the game doesnt explain stuff

lunar hollow
#

you wouldn't seek them out for remotely similar reasons

lyric burrow
#

A lot of it is just playing till you happen to understand things

mental grail
untold niche
#

im not saying y ou would, i just used competitive game because theres a high chance he would play a competitive game before in the context of "learning a game"

spice veldt
#

e.g., the game doesn't have an in-game explanation of rending/brittleness

upper sun
#

the most fun i had as ogryn was buying a brunts shield going into a t5 game holding alt then leaving after i got 17 penances

lunar hollow
#

comparing them is going to lead u to some really weird conclusions because tide games are a whole hell of a lot more casual

spice veldt
#

don't worry it's p much just them not investing resources into descriptions and stuff

#

they explain stuff in the patch notes and whatnot

mental grail
#

I'd say helldivers 7-8 bots is still way easier than DT

#

In other PvE games its so easy to carry

lunar hollow
#

helldivers is not super complex in part because some of the game systems for it are just not working rn

#

like armor

untold niche
#

hd2 has terrible balance, i want my hd1 balance back

upper sun
#

does hd2 have hit tracking to the same extent as dt?

mental grail
#

In DT if you don't have the right setup, director spawning a conga line of elites will end your carry attempt very easily

untold niche
#

auto redeem

mental grail
#

In helldivers?

#

shut up + freedom never sleeps + ➡️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️

lyric burrow
#

Tbf its not hard to bring a loadout that covers p much everything these days

untold niche
#

im waiting for kf3

spice veldt
#

penance points just exist
there's no way to spend them and there's no benefit for having them besides being a bigger number

untold niche
#

give reward straight away, which is cosmetic.

upper sun
#

theyre just for dick measuring

untold niche
#

you can't evne dick measure with it because it doesn't show in lobby

mental grail
#

cosmetics are immediate

untold niche
#

i don't know of a mod, there might be though.

upper sun
#

well discord dick measuring

mental grail
#

Most penances are literally useless though

lunar hollow
#

penance points are the gold star sticker put on the mourningstar fridge

radiant frigate
mental grail
#

since they don't give anything

upper sun
#

i never tried going for any penances i have 1372 points rn

untold niche
#

i got the push stuff off ledge penance as psyker just by playing

mental grail
untold niche
#

and i see people malding over it, very sad.

upper sun
mental grail
#

I have like 5-600

lunar hollow
mental grail
#

I only play psyker

mental grail
#

I have no interest in blunts

#

the non psychic type

upper sun
#

yeah i hate blunts too

untold niche
radiant frigate
#

whee

upper sun
mental grail
#

I want to try brain burst but it's so ass

lunar hollow
#

the madness that is introducing penances for completing specific mission types and then making raid/strike like half the fucking missions in the game

untold niche
upper sun
#

I LOVE PENANCES THAT DISTRUPT GAMEPLAY I LOVE THEM

untold niche
#

i see alot of the regulars here complained about it before.

mental grail
untold niche
mental grail
#

Very funny fatshark

upper sun
#

how the hell are you supposed to get warp battery

mental grail
#

With difficulty

untold niche
#

take a revolvo

lunar hollow
#

go back in time to when brainburst would give warp charges on any bb kill

untold niche
#

snipe the first thing you see

upper sun
#

some of the ways to get warp charges say "by chance"

mental grail
#

Anything below malice is utterly demeaning

upper sun
#

my record is 8 minutes btw

lunar hollow
#

why would you ever do that when you can just reroll book contracts

untold niche
#

bro just change the weekly type

#

everytime i see the no deaths

#

i just change it

upper sun
#

nah

#

assassinations are great

untold niche
#

if i have to pay once to change a second time i just change it

upper sun
#

you get mission completion no death and monstrosity all in one+plasteel

mental grail
#

the only good part about assassinations is disposal unit (Imperium Mix)

untold niche
#

what is that

#

the green goo one

#

green goo, two levels one

spice veldt
#

i love assassinations cuz they're fast and linear missions

upper sun
#

oh also assainations have a place where you can jump that bricks the mission i love that

untold niche
#

other than hab dreyko ending, i have no idea of other map names
mao names are not memorable.

mental grail
#

Chasm Logistratum?

untold niche
#

i only remember mercantile

upper sun
mental grail
#

Throneside?

untold niche
#

like remember as in i can map some place to the map name

upper sun
#

jumping this sends you to a place you cant leave you have to altf4

untold niche
#

all th map nmes are werid, but prob lore-friendly

mental grail
#

I only know those three

untold niche
upper sun
#

no

untold niche
#

so uh

upper sun
untold niche
#

whath appens

#

if thre of them in ele

#

and you jump

mental grail
#

It's fatsharks problem for naming all the maps "bumfuck district HL-17-99"

untold niche
#

they can't progress?

upper sun
#

yes

untold niche
upper sun
#

wait lemme upload the clip

mental grail
#

I had I mission on Chasm where someone got blown off the railing, but clipped inside the adjacent piping so we couldn't pick them up

#

Then the game spawned 20 pox hounds

#

absolute bruh moment

untold niche
#

I mean I'd tiu think of it another way

#

Since he can't be killed

#

Yo uguys can prob do the bot rejoin thing

mental grail
#

What if the bot just replaced him down in the hole?

untold niche
#

No. He doesn't quit

untold niche
#

The three of you

#

Quir

#

But I hate people doing that personally. I rather lose

mental grail
untold niche
#

I don't know how to do it. But I seen like people quit, become bots that are alive, then join back as the alive bot

untold niche
#

That exploit is the same reason why I hate peesword + peegun vets so much: at that point you might as well download an actual trainer and cheat

#

Maybe it's hypocritical for me to say this as my main is a voidstike psyker ( I would argue that I at least need to learn some positioning and it takes more skill. But countrr point is basically everything is power crept anyway)

mighty cipher
spice veldt
#

L

untold niche
upper sun
untold niche
upper sun
#

i dont think seven setting up a macro would work for a dog flying at mach 9

torpid girder
near wyvern
#

dem elites 😄

upper sun
#

i-i did it

#

a good deimos

#

uncanny+maniac and its good 🥹

still pelican
#

what do?

upper sun
#

flak/maniac for block and upgrade uncanny? thats what id do anyways

still pelican
#

what blessings would you guys change?

upper sun
#

ohhh wait thats a ds2

#

what do you use it for?

still pelican
#

speed runs

upper sun
#

thats a weird looking knife

still pelican
#

lol

#

bored with knife

upper sun
#

if you want a speed run weapn then you want sprint+stamina

still pelican
#

what's the best duelling sword?

#

this has been my go-to for ages and it's getting boring.

upper sun
#

the heavy chain is single target jabs very good for muties and crushers

still pelican
#

so is headpop

upper sun
#

ye its pretty good though i dont have a very good one

still pelican
#

JUST ROLLED this

upper sun
#

i hate you

still pelican
#

LOL

#

25 attempts though

upper sun
still pelican
upper sun
still pelican
upper sun
#

pen low

#

meh

still pelican
#

those are the ones above 70

upper sun
#

one more good one and i would have blocked you

still pelican
upper sun
#

blocked

still pelican
#

Just need the meta for it.

plucky flax
#

61 finesse is pretty low

upper sun
#

in 2 weeks i got 4 deimos above 360

#

i have low standards

still pelican
#

Got this on the 1st one

#

gotta farm for a bit now...

#

gonna have to collect all the blessings etc

languid ledge
#

lookin for ppl who can help me with Malleus Monstronum penances

upper sun
#

the 90% boss bb one?

languid ledge
#

yes

upper sun
#

you got others for it?

languid ledge
#

i am still looking for ppl

upper sun
#

bots would still attack

#

or you could try killing them somehow

languid ledge
#

do u wann give it a try ?

#

hv to done it yet ?

upper sun
#

sure i can try

languid ledge
#

what is your steam ac number ?

upper sun
#

does the last boss in assassination work?

languid ledge
#

hmm not sure

upper sun
languid ledge
#

ok let me try first time teaming up on discord

#

invite sent

upper sun
#

@languid ledge not private

languid ledge
#

oh right

#

let me invite u again

upper sun
#

actually its like 1:23 am here

#

maybe tomorrow or something

naive coral
#

wait are y'all doin the private game only one?

languid ledge
#

sure no problem

#

have a good night

upper sun
#

gn man

languid ledge
#

Malleus Monstronum penances

naive coral
#

yea

#

i gotta get that one done too

#

id be down to run some missions

languid ledge
#

wanna try it togther ?

naive coral
#

Ye im down

languid ledge
#

what is ur fatshark code ?

naive coral
#

7849647692

spice veldt
#

highly technical terms used by top 1% players

languid ledge
#

lookin for ppl who can help me with Malleus Monstronum penances

#

lookin for ppl who can help me with Malleus Monstronum penances

jovial juniper
errant pawn
#

What do we think of this?

#

Four 80s, I’ve never seen that before

#

Pick it up or leave it?

wet belfry
#

Its medicore.

#

Bad perks, one bad blessing, not an ideal dump stat.

#

Stat prio is damage>charge rate>quell speed>warp res> blast radius

lapis violet
#

and peesword got adapted since the shortform for that is psword and it keeps the plasma gun's p

#

powersword

jovial juniper
#

figured it would be powersword, but not plasma

radiant frigate
onyx sentinel
#

I just realised uncanny maintains its stack even when you miss

radiant frigate
#

Yes

#

because uncanny is a respectful blessing

#

unlike executor

onyx sentinel
#

ig it's not just for getting better breakpoints against maulers and crushers who coulda guessed

#

toothpick mains keep winning

magic kayak
#

Any good examples of knife in here for a trauma build?

wet belfry
#

I use flesh tearer, riposte, unyielding, crit chance.

#

Do i hate bosses? Yes

magic kayak
# plucky flax 61 finesse is pretty low

Agreed, damage isn't nearly as important as high finesse and penetration since those are multipliers. Normall difference between 70-80 damage is pretty low on most weapons

onyx sentinel
#

brain burst covers bosses so much better now since the animation buff

magic kayak
wet belfry
#

Psykers in general tend to be weak vs bosses.

magic kayak
#

Unless I have my gunker or surge staff but yeah compared to other classes with grenades, plasma guns, one shot hammers, etc. that's true

#

No lacerate?

wet belfry
#

Its alright but in this case i will likely already be dealing with 37.5% crit chance.

magic kayak
#

I was thinking lacerate and mercy killer

#

riposte is pretty nice though

wet belfry
#

Mercy killer is likely a waste on psyker

#

Not enough ways to proc it.

magic kayak
#

I guess unless you're running disrupt destiny?

#

mercy killer is just weak spot dmg on enemies with bleed stacks though

wet belfry
#

Hitting body intentionaly to proc mercy killer is negative dps id assume

magic kayak
#

true

wet belfry
#

Main argument for lacerate would be to compliment damage on like mutants

#

It still would require 3 hits to deal any significant bleed damage.

#

I tried uncanny, lacerate for awhile but don’t really see the point in it for a trauma play-style. The targets that are armored don’t really need to be fought in melee.

#

Same with gunners really.

#

I don’t think the build either outputs enough soulblaze to heavily take use of uncanny to begin with even as blaze traumaz

#

The crux of trauma is to spam LMB and use the AOE blast when heavier enemies, hordes begin packing together.

#

It’s also a psyker so a playstyle of carefulness is usually the best way to survive even the hardest of scenarios in the game. That means to always have a route to retreat, don’t let hordes surround and deal with specials coming from back.

#

Theres thereby usually a tendency to stay abit behind in comparison to the rest of the team. Depending on spawn door locations this can mean that dealing with near all of the specials spawning will be done solely by the Psyker same with hordes. Especially if any naughty zealots are in the team.

magic kayak
#

Yeah I'd have to agree

sterile glade
#

uhhh

#

Lighting go brrrrr

tawny pebble
#

Just had to deal with one such incorrigible priest.

#

Went down thrice because they wouldn't stay with the damn group.

dark frigate
#

So, I'm new to the game and I have an idea in my head for a psyker build I want to do

#

I was thinking of doing a sith type of build, using a force sword and psychic abilities (ideally smite) in equal measure

#

But idk if that sort of build is viable

#

Maybe using a force staff as my secondary

tawny pebble
#

No question.

#

Smite generally doesn't do well when you're up close, though. The wind-up on its stun, or the charge to get an immediate stun, doesn't lend entirely well to front-line.

dark frigate
#

Awesome, I always tend to play gishes in games where such a choice is available

tawny pebble
#

You can, of course, do a push-shove and then charge up Smite.

#

Consider the Surge staff if you want to go full Unlimited Power, for when a mere stun won't do the trick.

#

Any zealot will tell you that it's not impossible to do a full-melee build. But psykers don't have as much in the way of gap closing, so ranged options are more important.

dark frigate
#

Alright

#

so maybe instead of a staff, I do a lasgun?

tawny pebble
#

Yeah, that's viable.

#

Certainly will take the Peril pressure off you to more freely do Smite, the errant force sword special, or if you choose it, Scrier's Gaze.

dark frigate
#

cool cool

#

I originally wanted to stick with just force weapons so I wouldn't have to worry about ammo

tawny pebble
#

Depending on the difficulty, it can range from "doesn't usually come up" to "wait, that's a problem?"

#

Especially if you have a Survivalist Vet on the team.

dark frigate
#

thank you for the advice

#

I'm gonna start crunching numbers

thin raven
#

Coming back after a while , any suggest of what I could use in a future? My build gotta be ass right now so I’d appreciate any suggestion for one.

deft heart
#

Should i get the smite ability or the brain burst ability

thin raven
deft heart
#

Wow this shits dead

deft heart
#

Are the knives good?

thin raven
thin raven
deft heart
#

Smite would be good but it builds up so much peril and it doesn't last too long

thin raven
#

Wasn’t there a build where it was really easy to just use them and then down the peril and keep it coming?

#

Let me see if I still have my build with smite , can be wrong

feral knoll
#

Which weapons go well with Deimos sword?

#

Anything that basically can clear horde?

thin raven
potent echo
#

If you supplement with assail, Deimos is a decent horde clearer

#

I.e. I will only run deimos/surgestaff while having assail

deft heart
#

Surge staff with brain burst is not good?

jovial juniper
#

too much single target?

paper harbor
#

Surge staff kinetic flayer does smiting from emperor wrath

#

I love kinetic flayer make like smiting from god

deft heart
#

What should I use with surge staff

#

Or brain burst

#

What should i use with brain burst

paper harbor
#

Smite and surge staff

#

I could go BB with purgatus staff

deft heart
#

Thanks

ornate hamlet
#

which staff has the rending blessing that adds birttleness

spice veldt
#

trauma

ornate hamlet
#

then id go the blaze blessing right?

#

does baze spirit and rending shockwave a good combination? 🤔 considering the blaze stacks are relaint on crits and does rending shockwave go to 4?

tired estuary
#

nah you need crit blessing with blaze I think

#

with brittleness you want warp flurry

#

and yeah rending goes to t4

cosmic sigil
#

But blaze goes only to t3

ornate hamlet
#

is there a way to see how many stacks of soulbaze im throwing n a boss?

cosmic sigil
#

With a mod yes

ornate hamlet
#

damn

#

🤔

rich spindle
#

soulblaze stack caps confuse me

tired estuary
#

for blaze trauma I think you want smth like this

ornate hamlet
#

if u had to guestimate

#

how many seconds at 90 percent peril would it take to get max stacks on a boss

#

using right click

cosmic sigil
#

I wouldn't really count on soulblaze stacks for boss DMG

ornate hamlet
#

if i could throw a few on them then use venting shriek at max periul

#

it is super worth it

#

if i swap to melee after using shriekl

#

im trying to figure out the average timei should spend using my staff to throw stakc son the boss

tired estuary
#

You can probs jsut test on reaper in psykanium if you aren't running mods for that

ornate hamlet
#

true

upper sun
#

I notice zero difference in clear between an illisi with slaught+executor and one with only executor

#

idk why people are saying its "essential"

untold niche
upper sun
#

guess amount spent at brunts

untold niche
#

Seeing you post this.... 500k-1mil

#

I got mine at 300k tho

#

But I go with my first answer

upper sun
#

108k

untold niche
#

Noice

#

If you look at charge rate the difference is minimal absolute value wise but u will still go with the first staff

#

78 damage is enough to hit BP tho

#

But I'm sure you know anyway

upper sun
#

getting a good deimos base took me 3 weeks which turned into this

untold niche
#

Just wanted to type something

upper sun
#

ye

#

im gonna upgrade both and see what i can use

untold niche
#

Go flurry nexus for first one. Become mini gun psyker

upper sun
#

my current one is surge+nexus and flak infested

#

with perks locked

untold niche
#

I think flak maniac better for rager
You should try nexus flurry trust

#

Shoot vewi fwast

upper sun
untold niche
#

Cannot one tap crusher anymore but i feel it feels much better

tired estuary
#

deimos doesn't really care about crusher much anyways since it staggers them so easily imo

radiant frigate
#

deimos is a funny weapon

tired estuary
#

it sure is

radiant frigate
#

but it is not illisi (my beloved)

plucky flax
#

Quick hi int dogs mission in the morning but it turns to a 37 mins slug fest nooooo

upper sun
#

wow imagine carrying a medipack for 79 minutes staregryn

plucky flax
#

That stat has always been bugged for my scoreboard.

radiant frigate
#

i can only assume that the middle two were backfills

plucky flax
#

3 people quit after dying aye.

upper sun
#

good

#

theyre usually bad

#

i had t5a where my entire team got killed replaced with bots then i got a far better team afterwards

#

id like to think thats matchmaking saying "sorry G" we fucked up

plucky flax
#

From the start there was another psyker with voidstrike like me. He seemed really confident and ran ahead. Then died and left. pogryn

#

His confidence didn't match his skills.

flat helm
#

can anyone share gun psyker build for me? or give me darktide website build

plucky flax
# flat helm can anyone share gun psyker build for me? or give me darktide website build

My build at the start. Use any gun you want of course.
https://youtu.be/H51iMwJ6f9A

Me when teammates start arguing in Russian. :|
Patch 1.2.20
Archivum Sycorax · Espionage · Damnation · Hi-Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds)
Loadout: Mk IV Duelling Sword / Assail / Kantrael Mk X Heavy Laspistol

00:00 Build
01:28 Game Starts

▶ Play video
radiant frigate
#

assail xd

faint sigil
#

blazing spirit only goes up to 3 on trauma staff right?

radiant frigate
#

it only exists on 3

faint sigil
#

keep flak right? ez fire stick?

radiant frigate
#

Yes

#

flurry to blazing spirit gg

plucky flax
# radiant frigate assail xd

Me using any build with assail. That thing with ep is still cracked. Bit sad from melee switch nerf but it'd still kill.

junior linden
upper sun
#

that can pretty much be any staff you want it to be

#

KEKW_ogryn put surge carap and its a great void staff

plucky flax
junior linden
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Yeah

radiant frigate
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@vestal fulcrum i have to know, was that some funky helbore only tech?

vestal fulcrum
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What tech

radiant frigate
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the last game

vestal fulcrum
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Wait, we played together?

radiant frigate
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just now

vestal fulcrum
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Uhhh

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I crashed at finale whatthefuck_heresy

radiant frigate
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Yes

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i think it might have been my fault somehow

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the forbidden zealot crash tech

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freshly discovered

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i was trying to chase grinch with a stim so i charged while aiming it

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and he said he also disconnected

vestal fulcrum
radiant frigate
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i guess there really was something in those moebian stims

vestal fulcrum
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I'm only slightly mad at FS's server shitting itself

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Well anyway

radiant frigate
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behold, the most powerful spell of all

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i cast Crash to Desktop

vestal fulcrum
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I don't even get to see the scoreboard Crygreen

radiant frigate
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anyway i can only assume that helbore shanking is actually legitimate

vestal fulcrum
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It kills

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That's what matters

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Bruisers and Ragers stand no chance YEP

radiant frigate
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i looked at it for a bit as we were finishing

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you had like 160k melee 200k ranged

vestal fulcrum
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fair enough

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It was a nice run

radiant frigate
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yes very smooth

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turns out game is easy if people do damage

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anyway i think i will continue not playing zealot

vestal fulcrum
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I was also playing sub-optimally by trying to get as much scab ranged kills as possible whatthefuck_heresy

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(Melk's contract)

radiant frigate
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epic

plucky flax
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Me I don't do damage.

radiant frigate
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that is most unfortunate, sibling

plucky flax
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I'm in a game with 3 psykers 3 surge staves pog

plucky flax
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Surge king.

zenith vigil
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hardron pls... PepeWhy

static needle
plucky flax
static needle
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you mean the mod, spidey sense?

plucky flax
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Yes.

untold niche
plucky flax
radiant frigate
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so what's it like to be selfish in war

plucky flax
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I wish I can force bloom and lens flare on other players.

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So they are also blinded like me.

upper sun
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its garbage btw

haughty star
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That poor thing

brave fiber
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hey at least it’s a funny blaze sword

halcyon gust
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The funny meme blaze sword

fossil snow
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I want to stack the number as high as we can with the modern skill tree

upper sun
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maybe drop mind in motion for perfect timing?

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more stacks = more better

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even tho it doesnt apply to swords

fossil snow
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true but mind in motion keeps the tempo up so you can restack

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also it just

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just feels good

minor pelican
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Is there a waay to boost my damage outout for the lightning staff, It takes me 4-5 pulls with a full charge for most elites , i'd like to try and cut that in half atleast

eager mantle
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Uh. Post build and your staff

minor pelican
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do i just send in the pictures or is there a special kind of way

fossil snow
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click my link

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that site is good for making a mock up of your build for others to look at

rigid sky
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Surge staff is all about killing specials and elites fast

flint aspen