personally don't get the appeal but to each their own
#psyker-class
radiant frigate
plucky flax
Tru. I'm a magic man.
dim parrot
hello magic man, pls show magic trick
rigid sky
Gunker is secret 5th class
junior linden
personally don't get the appeal but to each their own
I main vet so when I play gunker I play it like a vet except I have a big aoe stun with lightning hands
Though I've been using purgatus staff + brain rupture lately
quaint fiber
Movement speed go brr
untold niche
wwow i didn't expect the dips to be so bad
-3k,-2k,-4k
i think its because the game is quite repetitive ngl
quaint fiber
It's so close to being amazing 😭
rigid sky
It's there already imo
junior linden
oh damn.
quaint fiber
Yeah it literally just needs more content
quaint fiber
but I'm autistic and don't see this as repetitive lol
I think part of the problem is also the mission rotation as I've done certain missions like 400 times now
plucky flax
wwow i didn't expect the dips to be so bad
-3k,-2k,-4k
i think its because the g...
It's the lack of new contents.
untold niche
im on the other end, not close at all, and its not content
its sKiLl eXprEsSiOn
quaint fiber
But other missions nowhere near as much
quaint fiber
Shit premium cosmetic system
I didn't even know you could buy cosmetics until 30 hours in
plucky flax
Last 2 weeks I've played 3 rounds of darktide.
And over 100 hours of helldivers
Helldivers might get a content update before darktide
junior linden
gonna pick that up soon lol
quaint fiber
literally 3 of my friends quit because of the dogshit crafting system
I hate how its actually necessary for some weapons to not be mid (power sword)
junior linden
yeah
quaint fiber
Helldivers might get a content update before darktide
💀
untold niche
Helldivers might get a content update before darktide
im regretful i preordered it ngl
atm im just waiting for them to balance the game.
don't shoot me but i think its kinda overrated/overhyped, given theres HD1
quaint fiber
Kinda wish I could actually pick it up now
junior linden
running into some really colorful people tonight.
quaint fiber
Average Warhammer fan
junior linden
real
untold niche
more like average internet user really
plucky flax
im regretful i preordered it ngl
atm im just waiting for them to balance the gam...
I've been enjoying. Balance is wack but you don't need to chase rng weapons. Just pick and play.
quaint fiber
more like average internet user really
Ehhh but there's more of those types of people who unironically think the imperium is perfect
plucky flax
And the game is just funny man
untold niche
i think just an issue with how i have high standards/expectations of stuff now i guess.
think one thing i don't like is i find the movement to be a downgrade from hd1, or maybe im just not good at it. Also weird sometime you can do the 180* dive sometime you can't
Why is it funny to you? like the team kills?
plucky flax
Just the game gives lots of funny moments
halcyon creek
The Starship Troopers-esque satire is… a vibe. Having tried out SST: Extermination, I’m not sure I can resonate with it
halcyon gust
The rare Brunt W.
rigid sky
The rare Brunt W.
Stamina bad but you got all the main stuff you need
halcyon gust
The other perk was +pox walkers which it melts through easily
Hadron was nice enough to not fuck it over. So I take those
Trauma staffs on the other hand. Hadron keeps finding new and creative ways on fucking them up
lapis violet
PSYKER BROTHERS
AND SISTER
SIBLINGS
THE OMNISSIAH HAS BLESSED ME ON THIS DAAY
rigid sky
I... don't see the Omnissiah's blessing?
lapis violet
380 with all stats being relatively high, crits are funny, carapace is funny and infested gives the weapon clear (against 1 type of enemy but still)
hollow jolt
I... don't see the Omnissiah's blessing?
Could be an emperor's gift
halcyon gust
The rare Big E gift being actually usable
lapis violet
this is melk
halcyon gust
Melk being very kind
hollow jolt
Oh that's pretty good then
lapis violet
skull hilt
halcyon gust
I heard the MK4 is the best dueling sword unless that changed recently
lapis violet
let's not act like we can't use something that isn't the best
yes, 4 is meta, but this is still a decent one
rigid sky
No I mean I actually wanna know what sets the II apart
I realised I was being too dismissive already
hollow jolt
let's not act like we can't use something that isn't the best
Imagine tolerating anything but the best
rigid sky
Already admitted to it lol
hollow jolt
Couldn't be me 💅💅💅
rigid sky
I just wanna know what it does to set itself apart
halcyon gust
I'm not familiar with dueling swords
lapis violet
attack chain and 1st heavy damage breakdown
halcyon gust
As I use my Illisi force sword 99% of the time
hollow jolt
Deimos my beloved
lapis violet
vs my current 4's
4 is higher damage and everything, sure
meh. the 2's damage ain't great
but still. i'm getting the 380
man the 4 is just.... so strong?
and for what reason?
does it have downsides?
rolling for blessings makes me depressed
halcyon gust
The least favorite part of Darktide
Praying that Hadron doesn't find a new creative way on screwing you over
lapis violet
i suppose, yeah
rigid sky
I think Deimos is even stronger on the H2 but a bit slower
DS4 has the H1-Special chain too
lapis violet
you mean saw single target damage?
rigid sky
Saw?
rigid sky
Yeah, my Deimos is a lot more damage on the H2 than my DS4's heavies but it's obviously a bit more unwieldy
hollow jolt
Why can't I tape a purg staff to my Deimos 😔
rigid sky
Yeah, the single-target melee choices mostly favour being paired with an a antihorde ranged
Sometimes Illisi is redundant
If you have Purgatus eg
hollow jolt
Yeah, the single-target melee choices mostly favour being paired with an a antih...
Recon 💪
rigid sky
Or Trauma
rigid sky
What are you gonna do? Take all the ammo on the map to bring me down by half a wound?
I think Loner would count as a maniac at least
hollow jolt
What are you gonna do? Take all the ammo on the map to bring me down by half a w...
Yes 😎
halcyon gust
The times I enjoy being a Hellbore vet "That horde of elites you see. That's my ammo pack"
near wyvern
Atheneum finally fully up to date for Patch 17
weary crane
Loaded into a game
All my team died
Fought against horde of muties snipers ragers and nurgle
Nurgle eventually picks me up, brings be across the whole map, goes close to the demonhost, and it gets woken up, while I'm inside nurgle😐
radiant frigate
I main vet so when I play gunker I play it like a vet except I have a big aoe st...
I've only ever played melee vet so i don't quite have the same experience
junior linden
Fair
little rapids
i think deimos attack patterns are more satisfying
untold niche
i also only play melee psyker
gaze dd, smite and purge?
purge staff would be cool just to stack blaze
radiant frigate
gaze dd, smite and purge?
purge staff would be cool just to stack blaze
3/4 incorrect
bb shriek voidstrike dd
purg also mostly operates at illisi distance so that's complete overlap
untold niche
but why not do qq swap
radiant frigate
gaze would very much interfere with illisi
untold niche
why BB, with smite you can do a quick stagger and go back to melee
radiant frigate
i can also do a quick stagger with my pushes
untold niche
gaze would very much interfere with illisi
i forgot vs and gaze both were ults
wouldn't smite staff be better instead of void because the thresholds are easier to meet?
afaik
just curious, im not saying its actually better
radiant frigate
i have tried surge + assail too
and i found that, together, those two do what voidstrike does
except they take more time, whereas with void i can just bring it out, fire off a surge doublecrit and return to melee
still on the fence about surge blazing spirit voidstrike
it could potentially make for somewhat improved boss damage
say you shoot a boss with a doublecrit and stack it to the blazing spirit maximum of 6
and follow up with shriek + bb barrage
12 stacks potentially painful
will test later
untold niche
in my mind, if you are going for melee primariliy,
surge to take out far enemies fast ( might be hard to do with assail consistently due to it needing buffs, but idk i don't play assail)
And then smite for your aoe special butt fall stagger. cuase to my knowledge illisi only butt fall single target on push attack
radiant frigate
very possible
untold niche
personally i never build for boss damage, just feel like its unneeded
mental rock
I would avoid surge blessing without nexus as your main source of Crit will then be true aim, which is nice but I feel insufficient on it's own
radiant frigate
but i don't usually need that level of stagger
untold niche
the vet that throw 2 krak nades is going to do like 40% of his hp without the nade buff node.
radiant frigate
I would avoid surge blessing without nexus as your main source of Crit will then...
it's perfectly sufficient for my purposes
radiant frigate
it mostly only comes out when i have true aim readied anyway
untold niche
on psyker a5histg and a5mael,
On vet, because i just started, malice 
radiant frigate
the vet that throw 2 krak nades is going to do like 40% of his hp without the na...
huge doubt
radiant frigate
i have played vet and my kraks definitely do not do that
they do however stagger nicely
rich jolt
Krak nades are strong but on haz 5 youll need more than kraks
near wyvern
wow u have a mordhau guide too
Haven't updated that in ages tho
untold niche
idk most pubbers are very you know, enthuastic about killing the boss anyway
little rapids
Haven't updated that in ages tho
ye it still has the old walls
rich jolt
Dkekdosis damnation* i play too much drg
little rapids
i miss those, so op
little rapids
Dkekdosis damnation* i play too much drg
i am on drg right now
untold niche
so i think boss damage (personally for me, like my builds that i use) is doo doo
rich jolt
New mk6 armor sets are awesome
radiant frigate
i don't trust anyone to do anything so i need all bases covered
rich jolt
i don't trust anyone to do anything so i need all bases covered
REAL
untold niche
in my experience, the worse the players are the more enthusiastic they are about bossing.
i had games where 4 of us, (when i decided to just unga with them) were all hitting the boss
sometimes its worth doing something funny even if you risk losing
little rapids
i saw a quote once "when you get into a lobby and the ogryn says 'protec the lil unns!' you know they will be awful"
little rapids
fr
untold niche
day ruined
nah it isn't that for me
untold niche
when i see a psword + pgun + shout vet thats when i know no fun allowed
rich jolt
Survivalist aura makes the game so boring
untold niche
either he effortlessly kills everything due to how busted the weapons (and build) are, or he cna't dodge the doggie
untold niche
Haven't updated that in ages tho
damn haven't heard of you in mordhau
tbh i prob never read any guides for mordhau since i was a chiv1 player
i don't understand chiv 2 at all tho
mordhau was pretty easy to learn tho, at high levels it was all about animation feints so you just steal them from whoever you were duelling with
hollow jolt
I'm ok with Ogryns as Vet because I use exclusively guns that pierce past allies 😎
untold niche
there are guns that shoot thru allies?
halcyon gust
I'm ok with Ogryns as Vet because I use exclusively guns that pierce past allies...
Ogryns make for the best doors and the worst windows
And the games you're a Lone vet with 3 ogryns so you spend 90% of the game staring at Ogryn ass
hollow jolt
there are guns that shoot thru allies?
Guns with piercing
mental rock
there are guns that shoot thru allies?
Revolver, plasma, braced autos, maybe a few more
untold niche
volvo shoot thru teammate?
lyric burrow
I think agri iag does too
mental rock
volvo shoot thru teammate?
Yep. Atleast I know for a fact the zarona does
spice veldt
seems like shooting through teammates follows the same rules as shooting through enemies
in that players have some amount of hitmass and if your weapon has enough cleave, it'll shoot through
upper sun
this has to be usable no matter how badly hadron fucks it up right? RIGHT?
mental rock
Good luck, traumas were hell for me to roll at hadron
mental rock
Oof
rich jolt
every single blessing except the good ones
Have you prayed to the omnishia today?
upper sun
the omnissiah is fake
rich jolt
the omnissiah is fake
Aint going to get good blessings that way
upper sun
he is a chaos entity made up by mentally ill toasters and hes no god of mine
rich jolt
Woe. Groaner damage upon ye
upper sun
meaningless the emperor shall protect me no matter what brick i use
mental rock
Enjoy your +1.5 stamina staff
halcyon gust
this has to be usable no matter how badly hadron fucks it up right? RIGHT?
Never. Tempt. Hadron
Hadron WILL find a way to fuck it up so badly it's unsalvageable
upper sun
🤔
silk vigil
hollow current
blaze trauma incoming?
dim parrot
relatable
hollow current
Do you need a small loan of 10000 plasteel.
upper sun
i can pay you back in in shitty surge staves
hollow current
torpid girder
Just needs ONE good perk or blessing and it's amazing thooo
halcyon gust
Clad has no good blessing to replace if Hadron feels like being a bitch
halcyon gust
It's not the worst bonus to get
halcyon gust
This is my servicable flame Trauma that I hate
rigid sky
This is my servicable flame Trauma that I hate
See, that's a much worse perk and it's still good lol
halcyon gust
It still slaps
Wish Hadron didn't fuck itover so badly
And Trauma staffs Brunt has to offer in a attempt to replace has quite shit
Of the main Staffs I use. This is the best one I own
rose dagger
halcyon gust
I do have Surge
I like Warp Flurry more because faster charge speed feels so much nicer to play
rigid sky
Flurry makes it more of a main weapon imo
Surge / Nexus works well with Assail for trash
But if I was using Void for everything I would go flurry/Nexus I think
The more I think about it the less I like Flurry/Transfer though
halcyon gust
Void is my active weapon most of a game
supple sedge
Sparkhead. Ulgo remind you to stay near Ulgo. Ulgo protect you
halcyon gust
Always have a buddy
supple sedge
Yes! Like buddy siren... or thing that sound like siren!
Buddy siren. Ogryn stick to you when leave team
halcyon gust
And I have a shield to kep Ulgo safe from mean shooters picking at toughness
supple sedge
Heehee
keen vale
I will never get tired of Crushers tripping over.
hollow jolt
Trauma should stagger monsters
rigid sky
use trauma it staggers literally everything
Also minus crushers that have just recovered from a stun
it's not as funny now they get to fight back a little bit
keen vale
Psyker at the back line charging his trauma like a DBZ character
rigid sky
but gotta make rending shockwave a little better somehow right
keen vale
"JUST THREE MORE HOURS, ASSOCIATES!"
brave fiber
casts it and his head fucking implodes
keen vale
Going out with a gnab
near wyvern
Also minus crushers that have just recovered from a stun
I believe it was you who spotted me playing today? If you want to see the shredder BB build I was using the video I made about it is ready.
The shredder is used for toughness regen just because we can if you build it for damage it's just a worse Columnus ofc.
It's not from that match but from yesterday
rigid sky
I believe it was you who spotted me playing today? If you want to see the shredd...
Heh, old style Gunker
Go for it :D
rigid sky
Will look later on once I have time, thanks 
It sounds terrible tbh but I look forward to seeing what it can do
lucid flicker
i've wanted to do some gunker but havent had the time or sufficient weapons available for it.
rigid sky
i've wanted to do some gunker but havent had the time or sufficient weapons avai...
Get a mediocre CIAG
CIAG is super easy to build
rigid sky
Takes longer to learn to play than it does to build imo
Harder psyker build to not hilariously die on
lucid flicker
now i dont know much about these chaos crazies, but oh boy they love their green.
rigid sky
Sometimes even Atheneum writers blow themselves up on it :)
brave fiber
https://youtu.be/TRva-Bbg_ps
how did they buff bb again?
lucid flicker
Takes longer to learn to play than it does to build imo
yeh, thats mostly it i think.
rigid sky
how did they buff bb again?
Speedier
rigid sky
just in general or
The speed talents for it
Also affect the recoil part now
More of a QoL change because you used to be able to just QG to skip it
brave fiber
The speed talents for it
Isn’t that just resonance and emp?
upper sun
https://youtu.be/TRva-Bbg_ps
thats pretty nice
long wharf
https://youtu.be/TRva-Bbg_ps
"It's nice having an ogryn to be a front line and hide behind" proceeds run out ahead of everybody
rigid sky
Isn’t that just resonance and emp?
Yes
brave fiber
weird buffs imo
brave fiber
ah thought it was buffs bc the vid
rigid sky
It's a fix that is effectively a buff lol
near wyvern
how did they buff bb again?
After cast animation lock went from 1.0 seconds to 0.6 seconds and kinetic resonance & empowered psionics now properly apply their buffs. EP description is a lie tho. It says "50% less time" but it's actually +50% charge rate, so 1 - 1/1.5 = 33% less time. They also now stack properly so if you have resonance and EP both active you have 225% charge rate so around 56% less time used per cast.
near wyvern
"It's nice having an ogryn to be a front line and hide behind" *proceeds run out...
Can't help it, I play too much Psylot
brave fiber
After cast animation lock went from 1.0 seconds to 0.6 seconds and kinetic reson...
that’s pretty interesting
honestly I just think bb should be able to do bonus damage to unarmored and unyielding enemies, would make it a pretty good option against ogryns and monstrosities
also just makes sense
overall tho psyker blitzes need to be better at high levels
near wyvern
honestly I just think bb should be able to do bonus damage to unarmored and unyi...
Why unarmoured? It one shots all unarmoured in the game
brave fiber
forgor
for some reason I thought gunners don’t get one shot
It’s been a while
still I do think bb should be a good ranged unyielding option
*better unyielding option
near wyvern
What BB really needs is it should allow on kill talents to proc whenever the target you are casting it on dies, no matter who killed it.
So things like perilous combustion, psycinetics aura, warp siphon charges, EP stack gain, DD stack gain.
It still happens annoyingly often that when you try to BB a target (especially without kinetic resonance) someone else kills it and this can happen multiple times in a row, making you simply waste time. If it did proc on kill effects at least you would gain something.
Also RMB needs to charge at the same rate as LMB FFS.
brave fiber
true
I like bb as a way to deal with scary things behind cover or at long ranges safely
Which I think they should lean into
near wyvern
It was meant to behave like this all along
They did stack previously, it was just very spaghetti and not at the values one would expect
hearty laurel
hey, random question: can you crit with brain burst?
mental rock
Hm if they made right click charge the same time, there wouldn't really be a reason for left click charge to exist though
near wyvern
hey, random question: can you crit with brain burst?
No
So you cannot consume true aim with it
brave fiber
Hm if they made right click charge the same time, there wouldn't really be a rea...
Locking on to something then hiding
that’s the point
near wyvern
Fun fact, you get 2 true aim stacks for a completed BB
mental rock
Locking on to something then hiding
You can right click charge then just peak to activate BB?
Literally the same thing
brave fiber
You can right click charge then just peak to activate BB?
Yeah but with the bb detection it’s weird sometimes
I can aim for a sniper and accidentally burst some unlucky scab’s head
near wyvern
Locking on to something then hiding
No need if you have the leech (toughness on consuming EP charge) and soulstealer. Can just dodge dance in front of gunners while picking them off at the pace of one every 1.3 seconds.
rigid sky
RMB can blow you up easier
mental rock
I can aim for a sniper and accidentally burst some unlucky scab’s head
Don't you need to left click confirm on your target if you right click charge?
brave fiber
Don't you need to left click confirm on your target if you right click charge?
my point is holding left click locks immediately, right click is more to whom it may concern
rigid sky
If you haven't locked on to something before 97% and then you do finish one, you pop
rigid sky
my point is holding left click locks immediately, right click is more to whom it...
You can transition it to an LMB BR at any point
mental rock
Well you can still lock with right click charge though
near wyvern
Don't you need to left click confirm on your target if you right click charge?
Yes but GL seeing what happens at the end of the tunnel. It's a lot easier to get the lock on with LMB, you jump, aim over and hold LMB. All elites and specials except dogs are taller than trash so it will latch onto any special or elite as that is the nearest thing when you come down.
brave fiber
Yes but GL seeing what happens at the end of the tunnel. It's a lot easier to ge...
^^^
near wyvern
What is tricky is the fucking railings
Some railings prevent you from locking on
But you and enemies can shoot through
mental rock
I'm still not convinced that I would ever use left click charge if they buffed right click charge to be the same time
brave fiber
that’s fine, it’s a difference in playstyle
rigid sky
Sometimes LMB feels better
near wyvern
I'm still not convinced that I would ever use left click charge if they buffed r...
LMB is optimal peril usage even if they charged at the same rate. You can also press LMB to stop your peril from auto quelling to keep warp rider up
RMB is useful when you know / see the enemy is coming. LMB is useful when you don't have a fucking clue and are going on a fishing expedition.
brave fiber
As soon as I lock onto something I want to kill I hold lmb and can immediately forget about it. Instead I can use that time looking around me, dodging, listening for disablers, etc
near wyvern
So many times I latch on and do a 180
mental rock
Hm I guess it is just a difference of opinion, I just feel like making them the same time would make one of them redundant
brave fiber
one requires direct line of sight the other lets you essentially fire and forget
if I wanted a long range burst option that does what rmb charge does I’d just pick surge voidstaff
weary crane
Another example of bots being completely useless
brave fiber
Another example of bots being completely useless
ong wish you can just choose to play without bots
mental rock
Yeah I get that, I just suppose that because I never really had los issues since I always used left click to lock on before my right click charge finished, if I ever used right click charge
halcyon gust
They're trying their best
brave fiber
Yeah I get that, I just suppose that because I never really had los issues since...
no wrong way to play the game, do what u want, it’s not like any of the psyker blitzes are particularly hard to use or great rn anyways
brave fiber
I honestly don’t even have a problem with the ease of use
It’s just that psyker blitzes fall off a cliff in aurics
extremely strong while leveling but just irrelevant once you get some great weapons
it’s hard to balance them because any buff to them will make leveling psyker too much of a steamroll
radiant frigate
SMiTe iS vErY HArd to USe
you jest but unironically yes
it's so hard for me to use without thinking that I'm wasting time
mental rock
Lol
brave fiber
Lowkey take a note out of league’s book and make psyker blitzes do %maxhp damage that’s affected by armor type
radiant frigate
make brain burst do 100% max hp damage
mental rock
I wouldn't mind that if the charge time was also proportional
weary crane
The current malestrom is broken af
brave fiber
Brain burst insta kills everything but charge time scales with hp
And you can burst early by pressing rmb or something for reduced dmg
Honestly
Good change
weary crane
The current malestrom is broken af
Start of game immediately 2 normall monstrosities and also like 8 weakened
mental rock
No, make it trigger as soon as it's able to kill the enemy, ie if the enemy is taking damage from other sources, that also reduces charge time
halcyon gust
Start of game immediately 2 normall monstrosities and also like 8 weakened
Great start!
brave fiber
No, make it trigger as soon as it's able to kill the enemy, ie if the enemy is t...
That too
weary crane
The previous 4 games I played we easy af and then this is just brokem
brave fiber
man now I really wish that’s how it worked lmao
radiant frigate
No, make it trigger as soon as it's able to kill the enemy, ie if the enemy is t...
i wish that's how it was but that sounds like a bitch to code
brave fiber
they’d have to make brain burst ramp damage as it charges rather than giving immediate damage on burst
radiant frigate
boss fights be like: buy time for the witch to finish a 5 year long cast to oneshot the boss
mental rock
Nah it wouldn't be that hard. Make the BB trigger a damage threshold which increases with charge time, then when the enemy takes enough damage or the threshold equals their max hp, BB triggers
brave fiber
boss fights be like: buy time for the witch to finish a 5 year long cast to ones...
I seriously think this would be hilarious and I really want it now
radiant frigate
yeah same
radiant frigate
destiny: disrupted
jovial juniper
boss fights be like: buy time for the witch to finish a 5 year long cast to ones...
What kind of witch you've been playing with
mental rock
This is a theoretical
radiant frigate
it's not real
brave fiber
What kind of witch you've been playing with
Long discussion about potential bb changes
brave fiber
Brain burst insta kills everything but charge time scales with hp
See this
radiant frigate
just witchful thinking
brave fiber
And everything under
hexed geyser
Would it also scale for monstrosities?
brave fiber
5 year long cast time moment
radiant frigate
imagine doing karnak twins and one of them suddenly just evaporates
witch's ritual completed
mental rock
How does a shield stop me from blowing a dudes head off with my mind
Bs if you ask me
brave fiber
idk force shield magic shenanigans
hexed geyser
Force fields aren't magic, we should have permission to blow their heads right off 
brave fiber
Twins have a protective crystal
hexed geyser
lmao
brave fiber
ultimate psyker counter
hexed geyser
Is this a thing in 40k? I know grey knights and sisters are kind of anti-warp but i don't know how it works.
mental rock
Inhibitors are a thing, and blanks also exist
pine carbon
RMB is useful when you know / see the enemy is coming. LMB is useful when you do...
it took me 500 hours to use the RMB brain burst for its intended function lmao
like my first kill using right mouse
mental rock
Inhibitors are more for stopping the psyker from losing control though, not necessarily to protect them from others
hexed geyser
I know most of my lore from tyranid's pov so it's sometimes weird to know what's actually happening.
mental rock
Although I guess a psyker losing control is usually a daemon so it is actually protecting them?
hexed geyser
If a chaos spawn or a beast of nurgle or whatever other warp thing could spawn out of a psyker losing control, i suppose it's to protect everyone
jovial juniper
And everything under
I see
frozen fiber
any great Trauma staff builds?
mental rock
Yes
hexed geyser
Check the psyker atheneum in pinned messages, trauma should be there
jovial juniper
Would it also scale for monstrosities? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Ah yes, easy way to get the monstronum penance
hexed geyser
This penance is just stupid, it's easy but requires setup
quaint fiber
It’s just that psyker blitzes fall off a cliff in aurics
hey assail and smite arent thaaaaaaaaaat bad in auric
for cleaning up trash mob anyway
jovial juniper
This penance is just stupid, it's easy but requires setup
Quite literally "hold up, let me cook"
But with premade
feral knoll
I hated that penance for a minute because I misread it as “deal 90% damage to a monstrosity with brain burst in one hit”
Now I understand and it’s just like
“Oh…”
brave fiber
It’s the last penance I need for psyker and I will never get it
I can’t get myself to do it because i dont really care about what i get
My psyker alr dripped out of his mind
jovial juniper
I'll try the zealot one later
mighty cipher
Some people really just have a stick up their ass dont they
Like I get replacing the book contracts but every time I ask if they don't mind getting books and they mention that they replace them and tell me to do the same, they always have personality of a fucking cactus.
hollow current
it's just that books have been utterly worthless since launch. loot doesn't get better from picking them up or playing auric maelstrom. maybe make the reward double mission dockets for grims and 1/2 or 2/3 for scrips.
brave fiber
Like I get replacing the book contracts but every time I ask if they don't mind ...
mfw:
radiant frigate
Like I get replacing the book contracts but every time I ask if they don't mind ...
if books were at least consistent, and somewhat rewarding, people would not do that
mighty cipher
if books were at least consistent, and somewhat rewarding, people would not do t...
It's specifically the people who tell me to swap them out instead of just ignoring me or the books. They're, without fail, massive dickheads.
The guy today like... Lightly(?) flamed the team after shit started going semi poorly. It was a verbal equivalent of condesending side eye.
"Are ya'll just gonna walk around and do nothing?"
Was roughly what he said while the team was trying to pick his ass back up.
Complete with the whole
"Im not talking to anyone specifically" spiel
upper sun
yeah like even if someone is doing bad if you flame them the rest of the team is gonna feel bad and your vote wont pass
then theyre gonna do even worse
brave fiber
but in my time playing this game ive seen so little people who are actively toxic in chat i feel like im an outlier
upper sun
ive only seen one person be actively toxic
brave fiber
like maybe 2 in 300 hours
upper sun
knife vet obv
upper sun
he ping spammed everyone and ran at mach 7 to elevators
brave fiber
expected tho
upper sun
blame the player not the build
you know the statistics ok?
brave fiber
not their fault that knife speed cokes out your brain and makes you want to go 200 miles per min
jovial juniper
YES
rigid sky
I've seen more in the last week than in the year before that tbh
Just an unlucky run for me I think
halcyon gust
I seen a few more speedy cokesters crop up and most do well until they get Dogged or trapped heavily out of position to die and quit instead of waiting to be resuced
brave fiber
people treat knife zealot as a solo carry when he's much better at objective taking, safe rezing, and picking off out of the way targets
its main character syndrome
halcyon gust
I don't judge a book by the cover when I see the build on the team preview as how they perform in game
It's just that the Really bad ones tend to be remembered more easily than the decent ones
brave fiber
hey man ive been maining shroud knife zealot since the talent update came out and ive gotten nothing but nice messages
if you're gonna run that playstyle you better be damn good at hearing disabler ques
halcyon gust
Only time I don't hear a sound que is when the game decides to eat it up 
velvet verge
time to see how hadron will fuck my shit up
halcyon gust
Here's hoping you can salvage it because that is a nice 380
upper sun
surge is not that bad to build im sure itll be fine
velvet verge
here's what haddy gave back to me when she was done
halcyon gust
Warp Nexus is nice
feral verge
rip
plucky flax
Sad time.
velvet verge
at least im not a gun psyker
feral verge
never been annoyed or bothered by gun psykers
i have seen far more vets and ogryns who somehow manage to pick up more ammo, and do less damage with it
halcyon gust
Flamer zealot or purge staff psyker wonder why their room smells like an all you can eat buffet
halcyon gust
never been annoyed or bothered by gun psykers
Never bothered with gunkers either as long as they know not to suck up ammo like a vacuum
hollow jolt
Imagine this with smite
Darktide twins fight about to hit different
"I got the melee twin guys 😎 "
modest perch
What does smite smell like ?
rigid sky
Never bothered with gunkers either as long as they know not to suck up ammo like...
Great thing about Gunker is we also have the strongest Assails and melee capability
Because SG and DD go brrrr
We just go down like a sack of shit the moment something actually breaks through
upper sun
what do we think about todays harvest?
blaze crit chance on the first and the second well see after i grind up enough for the second blessing
upper sun
here's what haddy gave back to me when she was done
F
radiant frigate
but in my time playing this game ive seen so little people who are actively toxi...
personally i like to keep my toxicity to myself
harsh urchin
It's specifically the people who tell me to swap them out instead of just ignori...
go up in difficulty
people are generally more chill in auric 5s
from what I hear most of the raging shitters are doing 3s and 4s
i haven't seen any incidents in my games in quite a while lol
mighty cipher
It was At5
harsh urchin
block and move on then
mighty cipher
Already done
halcyon gust
If I'm doing a book missions and they're grim. I'll always ask "Grims" if everyone agrees to it. I'll grab it. If not every agrees or I get no answers. I'll ignore it
upper sun
even in regular damnation people heal eachother and ping ammo pretty well
worn beacon
We just go down like a sack of shit the moment something actually breaks through
Pure glass cannon gameplay
halcyon gust
I do a ton of Damnation pubs and people are pretty chill and if you're having a bad day most of time they're fine as long as you do your best
jovial juniper
When the Surge staff crit, it explodes the target
Does it damage around the target or is it just to look pretty?
frail harness
Only 1% away from max dodges 💀
brave fiber
Does it damage around the target or is it just to look pretty?
just a nice effect
jovial juniper
Aight, when are they adding the blessing that it does something
ivory path
siblings this grind for the surge blessing on a voidstrike is going to drive me insane
jovial juniper
Aight, when are they adding the blessing that it does something
Because the surge staff is needing more blessings
vernal blaze
Only 1% away from max dodges 💀
wait is this thing like actually not awful now or something
i remember tac axes feeling absolutely awful a while ago
jovial juniper
Because the surge staff is needing more blessings
And why does surge (and purgatus) have less blessings
feral verge
i remember tac axes feeling absolutely awful a while ago
They haven't been changed, really
Only one of them has
So if they felt awful awhile ago, they will still feel awful
harsh urchin
I don't think they're as bad as people make them out to be
Theyre tbh ok on vet
Its just that zealot and psyker exclusive melee kinda blows most options out
With how nice ds, fs, hs , thammer and evis are
wet belfry
The problem is that many other weapons have improved while theyve remained the same since launch
Game has been power-crept in values on both enemies, weapons.
harsh urchin
Ye
It also doesnt have access/synergy to the extremely overtuned blessings
I actually think BM is a trap cuz it cant hit the BPs needed for it
spice veldt
it can hit the BPs with crits so there's that for it
i consider it a fine weapon but it really is just absolutely overshadowed
spice veldt
i think it's fine cuz when you're making use of BM is just bruiser/poxwalker/groaner hordes
and you're not in need of reliabiliy against trash hordees anyways
and BM is just a nice surprise if it procs against anything tougher
harsh urchin
I want to try out headtaker/shred and cut BM
And see how that performs
But havent tested it yet
spice veldt
much to thonk about
feral verge
it can hit the BPs with crits so there's that for it
So, ummm lmao
Uhh who tf asked lmao???.?
spice veldt
shlerp
feral verge
Don't.
spice veldt
shhhhhhlllllleeeeeeeerp
feral verge
@mods ban him
lyric burrow
I want to try out headtaker/shred and cut BM
it can hit some pretty decent BPs on elites, although gotta make sure your really keeping the crits up
harsh urchin
it can hit some pretty decent BPs on elites, although gotta make sure your reall...
I'm hoping for a finesse rework
Where they disconnect weakspot and crit
And allow for meaningful ways to interact with both separately
spice veldt
right in the kneecaps
rich spindle
siblings this grind for the surge blessing on a voidstrike is going to drive me ...
How rare is it? Ive upgraded like 4 staffs with no luck
cosmic sigil
I want to try out headtaker/shred and cut BM
I tried it on psyker, vet and zealot. It was fine.
(on MK2 and mk7)
What's funny about the taxe thing is that the best players have watched and played with... use taxes
I don't know of it's just for flexing or just a balance of mobility / cleave / crits / DMG being good enough
last agate
Which psyker builds are the better ones atm?
mighty olive
plz don't say gunker
cosmic sigil
you can check the pinned guide for some valid recommendations
cosmic sigil
plz don't say gunker
Psykun
stable halo
Lots of viable options- but blaze+shriek is a common one I see, also trauma staff and whatever, also crit gunker. I run assail+revolver+deimos+EP and usually top 1/2 for damage, objectives, etc
cosmic sigil
lately i have been trying blaze trauma + vent shriend and warp siphon
last agate
Lots of viable options- but blaze+shriek is a common one I see, also trauma staf...
What's gunker?
stable halo
What's psykun?
gunker
steel egret
Gunker.
ivory path
How rare is it? Ive upgraded like 4 staffs with no luck
ive spent like 20k crafting mats with no luck so far
stable halo
What's gunker?
the most common build is columnus + all the crit tech.
mighty olive
no gun, gun bad!
last agate
the most common build is columnus + all the crit tech.
so its a gun build?
jovial juniper
Yep, Gun Psyker
ivory path
Wait theres a gatekeep, gaslight, gunkblast build?
deft nymph
last agate
whyts gun psyker best?
mighty olive
whyts gun psyker best?
it's not
jovial juniper
It's a common build, could argue that it is not the best
ivory path
gun psyker is super fun
mighty olive
i'm seeing a huge amount of new psykers playing gunker, and i'm so sad
deft nymph
gun pysker can be really good even more effective then more surge staff builds
ivory path
Staff builds still better, but its nice to switch it up
makes it so i dont have to level a vet
mighty olive
i leveled up a zealot, i think it's a good switch up from psyker
stabstabstab, pewpew, stabstabstab
last agate
Which staffs r the better ones?
urban sandal
trauma is the most useful, void strike is the most powerful
mighty olive
Which staffs r the better ones?
purg, trauma, voidstrike, different playstyles with them all
ivory path
Depends what role you want to fill
jovial juniper
Surge ahhahahah
deft nymph
gun pysker
ivory path
My surge staff kicks fuckin ass
mighty olive
yeah agreed with Ramm, different playstyles, try everything, see which fits your style best
last agate
just a dps role i guess
urban sandal
blaze trauma
ivory path
Gun just does damage and nothing else
mighty olive
i love voidstrike >_<
deft nymph
check out my build in my about me for a good trauma build
mighty olive
trauma i heard is good but it's not my playstyle, you charge it on the ground and explode things, like Sienna's from VT2
urban sandal
like I said it's the most useful since it just completely counters any melee enemy besides bosses
ivory path
Trauma feels like shit without the charge time blessing
deft nymph
Trauma feels like shit without the charge time blessing
then use the charge time blessing
mighty olive
i feel it
deft nymph
stable halo
honestly if you're leveling psyker- do an assail build- it's consistently good through damnation- (then you need to learn how to move with no toughness)
ivory path
I get 2000, i upgrade a voidstrike to get a surge blessing, i get tier 2 shit instead
last agate
How does gun psyker keep good toughness gen?
ivory path
Where am I gettin my blessings then?
deft nymph
i upgrade for blessing and im not broke
urban sandal
melk and mission rewards
ivory path
I basically exclusively get axes from the emperor
mighty olive
How does gun psyker keep good toughness gen?
i um, dont think they do >_<
jovial juniper
just a dps role i guess
With tons of crowd control
deft nymph
i um, dont think they do >_<
lol
last agate
i um, dont think they do >_<
how do they live then? loil
ivory path
How does gun psyker keep good toughness gen?
Disrupt destiny or whatever its called
mighty olive
how do they live then? loil
dodge and roll!
ivory path
shoot a marked goon, get a burst of speed and toughness
but they are squishy
also scriers gaze + peril based toughness regen
deft nymph
i um, dont think they do >_<
soul stealer, one with the warp, endurance, mettle thats all u need
last agate
So I use darktide.gameslantern for builds. But some of the most liked ones on some classes can be several months old like 2-3 in some cases. How long ago was the last like major balancing update?
mighty olive
soul stealer, one with the warp, endurance, mettle thats all u need
okay XD
urban sandal
So I use darktide.gameslantern for builds. But some of the most liked ones on so...
couple months ago
mighty olive
i dont think you should be commenting lol
1400 hrs on psyker, i think i earned the right to ^_^
urban sandal
there have been a few patches and hotfixes here and there but nothing major
last agate
couple months ago
ok so the builds that were updated like 2-3moinths ago r relevant then
mighty olive
ok so the builds that were updated like 2-3moinths ago r relevant then
as long as they're after the major talent updates i'd say so
deft nymph
1400 hrs on psyker, i think i earned the right to ^_^
lol
ivory path
i have the most fun on gunker if i have 2 vets with the ammo gen perk
jovial juniper
1400 hrs on psyker, i think i earned the right to ^_^
I humbly request you to give insight on staff and guns build and not just say that gun bad
lucid flicker
gonna try CIAG tomorrow
jovial juniper
It's good to look at both sides of the story
mighty olive
I humbly request you to give insight on staff and guns build and not just say th...
i did XD
deft nymph
I humbly request you to give insight on staff and guns build and not just say th...
dont get use to it if you come to this chat. people dont know anything and will tell you something and not have any facts
jovial juniper
It's good to look at both sides of the story
That's why I experience things first
mighty olive
i don't like gunker, it's not top tier, it's different, it can be fun, i think other staff builds are better oriented
deft nymph
i always recommend testing stuff yourself
jovial juniper
Imagine trusting things on the internet
lucid flicker
me when someone discourages personalized playstyles
ivory path
gun pysker
you run columnus?
lucid flicker
i will play the videogame, i WILL acquire The Fun
deft nymph
you run columnus?
sometimes havnt run it in months tho. I use heavy las, both revolvers, auto pist sometimes, and prop some other ones
lucid flicker
i like the revolvers, but i cant play with em
ivory path
Im currently running columnus, but the emperor gave me this and I was wondering if I could make something of it:
jovial juniper
Does surgical apply to both shots of the Vraks?
deft nymph
last agate
What are the go to melee weaps for us then?
deft nymph
What are the go to melee weaps for us then?
depends on the build
last agate
Right now im running a crit assail build
deft nymph
if your primary is bad at horde clear you want a horde clear melee but if your primary is good at horde clear maybe you want something like a mk4 dueling idk tho im new
last agate
i got the voidstrike that shoots the giant ball for its secondary
lucid flicker
ah, the bowling ball
last agate
is that one a good staff?
spice veldt
very
lucid flicker
they are all good
deft nymph
depends on blessings and user
last agate
cause im running assail the build creator says its for big single tareget kill
lucid flicker
it can bowl through hordes
spice veldt
sure y not; i'd probably run mk4 duelling sword or deimos with voidstrike assail
you have assail for any close-distance crowd clear/control that you need
farm true aim stacks with melee when needed and throw out an assail shard here and there with hordes
deft nymph
you can do surge void strike build then do flick shots to shoot two balls at two diffent directions in a huge horde to kill twice as many pox walkers but this is kimda advance
ivory path
Anyone done a melee psyker build?
deft nymph
Anyone done a melee psyker build?
yeah ive done two kinds
ivory path
Be interested to try one of those once i have crafting mats again
lucid flicker
you can do surge void strike build then do flick shots to shoot two balls at two...
mm, blessed charge time
lunar hollow
you have assail for any close-distance crowd clear/control that you need
farm tr...
what u mean is u spam voidstrike balls at ur feet and pray none of the 4 maulers that have locked you in a corner overhead you
mighty olive
i haven't done melee build but i'm curious
spice veldt
what u mean is u spam voidstrike balls at ur feet and pray none of the 4 maulers...
sick bastard
jovial juniper
Anyone done a melee psyker build?
Mostly with Illisi
deft nymph
mm, blessed charge time
you can do that but i prefer warp nexus if i am doing flick shots
ivory path
I really want to get surge so i can put it on this
jovial juniper
Mostly with Illisi
Deflector + Uncanny
deft nymph
best staff to take in a CIVI hands down
lucid flicker
UNLIMITED POWERsurge for popping dudes, trauma explosions, voidstrike explosions, the magic flamer that actually does something,
jovial juniper
Deflector + Uncanny
Not a really interesting build
ivory path
I thought surge was good on trauma staff until someone told me it doesnt proc for the secondary. Was excited when i got this
lucid flicker
thats a big rip
spice veldt
tragik
ivory path
Dumb that it doesnt
I already have to take a nap while it charges up, just let me hit twice
lucid flicker
Magik
feral verge
@spice veldt
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448>
no
cosmic sigil
there have been a few patches and hotfixes here and there but nothing major
Assail weaving being busted aside
hollow current
How does gun psyker keep good toughness gen?
assail, mettle and soul stealer
feral verge
no
I am noticeably draining what little sanity you have left
There will be nothing left
cosmic sigil
If you use an illisi with soulstealer you won't really have a tg pb
Then you have crits, peril dr, assail, bubble, shriek, dd...
last agate
Why was mark 4 dueling or deimos suggested for horde clear melee when there attach chaisn are all single target?
stable halo
deimos is single, slash slash slash stab. Slashes have cleave
paper harbor
Im struggle do the poke combo
last agate
top damage, top kills and i get kicked for taking ammo -.-
and i was reviving / doing obj's
paper harbor
On malice?
last agate
ye
mighty olive
peoples in Malice have been so mean lately >_<
paper harbor
Something off on malice
ivory path
Im learning pretty quickly while leveling an alt that the quality of teammates you get matched with at lower difficulties are a special breed
paper harbor
Some guy kick the dude now Phantom get kick
ivory path
might be a contributing factor
mighty olive
they're just jealous because you're superior, sibling!
tired estuary
I leveled some new characters recently and I mostly just got potatos
ivory path
Saw a psyker on heresy who only used BB, and charged into everything
paper harbor
Lol
mighty olive
Saw a psyker on heresy who only used BB, and charged into everything
i had a guy like that too, single normal mobs, but he was new and bursting heads is fun so i get it >_<
ivory path
I think the guy was in the mid 20s for his level
mighty olive
yuh he's probably just enjoying popping some heads, it is a neat ult, dunno of another game that has an ability like that
tired estuary
Oh yeah I did see one guy repeatedly complain about normal damnation ai director when it threw stuff like, 2 ragers and a bulwark.
last agate
Some guy kick the dude now Phantom get kick
?
tired estuary
"What is this, fucking auric?"
last agate
I think is a same guy kick you
My character was a femaler psyker named Yvette
mighty olive
Oh yeah I did see one guy repeatedly complain about normal damnation ai director...
it has been pretty hectic lately, i think auric's is messed up too, i couldn't get a full group last night
we played with a bot the entire map >_<
paper harbor
My character was a femaler psyker named Yvette
I means is probably same person who kicked other guy on malice
last agate
oooh
last agate
With voidstrike staff, do y'all always do full cxharge ones or do u spam off small charges?
feral verge
Full charge
snow linden
last update mixed up a bunch more psyker hats to have and not have scab voice filter messing up my list. does anyone know if gnosis pattern rebreather has it
hollow current
Im struggle do the poke combo
Deimos? Light into Heavy into block into Light into Heavy. You can also block cancel to reset and spam out Light pokes.
paper harbor
Deimos? Light into Heavy into block into Light into Heavy. You can also block ca...
Tunnel vision issue
last agate
does how long u hold right click on purgation staff affect streength of the flames? or does it just make the flamethrower last longer and thats it?
mental grail
We look very similar lmao
untold niche
why mission have this green sym bol at bottom now
hollow current
difficulty level you completed it at
Before we had no indicators of what mission types we beat on damnation. 😆 made it fun trying to get that penance, you had to write them down somewhere and hope the missions popped up when there was at most 1 or 2.
mental grail
I wish the accatran was good
junior linden
We all do.
untold niche
Before we had no indicators of what mission types we beat on damnation. 😆 made...
so is that currnet symbol damnation?
i assume its the number of chevrons
hollow current
yeah the 3 skulls is damnation
magic kayak
can this be used for gunker? I'd swap out the blessing obviously once I unlock dum dum etc
this thing is still great right?
magic hull
We look very similar lmao
we met brothers
magic kayak
lol nice
untold niche
pants isn't red so i look more like a soldier than an actual cosplayer
magic kayak
Man, what's with these server issues? Is this a current thing? I've never been DC'ed before and now it happens at least twice a match
plucky flax
can this be used for gunker? I'd swap out the blessing obviously once I unlock d...
Ye switch carapace to flak
magic kayak
Ye switch carapace to flak
OK cool
untold niche
no cool vet cosmetic in shop so...
plucky flax
And dumdum obviously when you have it
magic kayak
Yeah vets don't have the best cosmetics really
untold niche
they have the cool hat
and some nice coats but those aren't on rotation
magic kayak
And dumdum obviously when you have it
I actually just put dum dum on it, guess I did have it
untold niche
vet gets the most love from dev
untold niche
huh you can do pallete changes?
magic kayak
sorry it's late, I meant I wish you could
So I got sustained fire which is ok? Do I still change carapace to flak or change out blessing?
sustained fire seems weak
untold niche
this is when you roll for another weapon brother
magic kayak
Haha that's what I was thinking too
untold niche
no point asking because after asking you will feel this is still kinda suck and roll for another weapon anyway
magic kayak
good point
I'd rather get a decent dagger at this point anyways, I'm trying out the trauma staff
untold niche
i would suggest
if you want a weapon
don't stop until you get one that you deem worthy
some weapons dont need godroll which is why i didnt say godroll
at least, you won't be stuck feeling like shit
magic kayak
I've got basically enough for 5 viable builds right now
just want to kinda switch it up every now and then
untold niche
idk even thenm i would stick to one so you can try out the weapon in its full potential
untold niche
at least, you won't be stuck feeling like shit
^
urban sandal
rending trauma generally works best with warp flurry rather than warp nexus
magic kayak
this for surge, that's what I use the most
Yeah I didn't unlock warp flurry yet sadly
untold niche
this for gunker
that rashad not gud enuf
magic kayak
that's my favorite melee on any character I have
untold niche
i cna tell you if you hit 80 80 76++ rashad you will have different breakpoint
at least afaik
you should test it in psk
magic kayak
80 80 76 is dmg pen fin or what?
harsh urchin
Rashad needs to hit a breakpoint for bruisers
untold niche
damage, pen, then finese & FT
harsh urchin
Afaik
untold niche
Rashad needs to hit a breakpoint for bruisers
ya @magic kayak
harsh urchin
For BM
untold niche
your damage and pen alr too low
magic kayak
for one shot?
I use disrupt destiny and scriers gaze so I tend to crit a lot
let me check
I should be able to one shot bruisers basically correct? that's the breakpoint im going for?
untold niche
it should be 1 hit after some very light buffs.
harsh urchin
Caxe does not have super great crit multipliers iirc
untold niche
i checked godroll caxe can't one hit at base
you can see after my headtaker procs its 1 hit
magic kayak
.77 crit multi on light attack, I shot shot after a few swings especially on flak, that isn't using disrupt destiny buff though
I do have headtaker I could swap to
untold niche
.77 crit multi on light attack, I shot shot after a few swings especially on fla...
dats weird, can you show us a video?
magic kayak
but to be honest, once disrupt destiny stacks up that's more power
sure one second
Ok so I misspoke, unless I am running scriers gaze or have disrupt destiny buff up it wont one shot without a crit
untold niche
ah
do you have loadout config
can you help me test something
wait nvm i finished loading
the loading took forever
magic kayak
I was about to download that, I need that mod for sure
Can you test disrupt destiny with loadout config?
untold niche
no i quit going to go do my stuffs now
good luck dood
harsh urchin
The problem is that all the psyker exclusive weapons are so strong statwise and have excellent finesse scalings
It's very hard to justify other weapons, even when theyre quitr good weapons
radiant frigate
It's very hard to justify other weapons, even when theyre quitr good weapons
you could play devil's claw for unlimited counterstrike memes
but like
why
cinder moon
half the fun of picking certain weapons is getting a unique interaction with the class
force push on laspistol is funny, for example
was literally the entire reason i got one in the first place, lo and behold it ended up being absurdly good for gunker
near wyvern
Devil's claw was shit before patch 13, amazing at patch 13 and then shit again after patch 13. Why FS.
vestal fulcrum
Because having bad weapons in the game is not necessarily a bad outcome
radiant frigate
what made it good in patch 13
what made it bad afterwards
i think devil's claw IV is like, alright-ish
decent enough vs unarmoured
good vs ragers while you have stamina/perils if kinetic deflection
agonizing on armor
vestal fulcrum
what made it bad afterwards
Increase of enemies’ hp across the board
And probably in-swarm elites
plucky flax
Just played an assail round. I can feel the nerf. 
Switching to uncanny melee and not getting it kinda sucks.
radiant frigate
epic obscurus
vestal fulcrum
Cower in fear, it's the obscurus
radiant frigate
unfortunately, obscurus
vestal fulcrum
Fortunately, I love collecting junk
plucky flax
Damn if mobility swapped with warp resist and if it was an illisi.
radiant frigate
obscurus has really weird attack patterns
plucky flax
Then you get 25% flak and maniac.
radiant frigate
illisi propaganda 
plucky flax
Psyker's best melee.
radiant frigate
Yes.
vestal fulcrum
Damn if mobility swapped with warp resist and if it was an illisi.
😔
Maybe next time
plucky flax
My illisi is so good only warp resist is a bit low.
59%.
I got the longest ship in the galaxy.
rigid sky
Psyker's best melee.
Best in its role at least. Obscurus doesn't really compete with it.
plucky flax
mighty cipher
I would unironically like to have a 0 warp resistance Illisi
weary crane
mighty cipher
INSTANT 100% peril whenever you want
rigid sky
Bring able to pump peril on demand is important tbh
Any Venting build needs it, any Warp Nexus build
Plus the toughness generation possible from it/quelling it
plucky flax
If you don't want to spam specials in melee I guess.
rigid sky
I wouldn't use it as my main one but still
I think I'd prefer a high peril Deimos
Since my Purgatus build is the only one which really wants to build peril faster but struggles
All my others I tend to struggle more with not overheating
And it's not as if you use the Deimos special much
mighty cipher
If you don't want to spam specials in melee I guess.
You can still spam. Either HLHL charge works off cooldown OR if you have the balls slightly charge a heavy light and then another slightly charged heavy.
plucky flax
Yeah sure but you can't specials as much as high warp.
I myself prefer high warp resist.
mighty cipher
A normal ass heavy instakills every special except for a mutant
mighty cipher
Fair enough
rigid sky
Normal heavies work great with DD and SG stacks
Which is fortunate
Because special is suicide in late SG
It's such a power trip to one shot a mutant with an Illisi
Like, this shouldn't be able to do this
With such a wide sweep attack
What is the specific bonus from Illisi special?
cosmic sigil
I would unironically like to have a 0 warp resistance Illisi
I have a 5% it's glorious 🔥
upper sun
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b73881e-f0a3-4e13-b163-91bfe37d82d3/so...
you need uncanny on deimos
weary crane
Meh
I normally 1 shot anyway because I've burned them
And i have max peril when I use it
upper sun
@feral verge say the line pls
jovial juniper
Best in its role at least. Obscurus doesn't really compete with it.
While true, Deimos and Obscurus are able to open bullwarks by hitting the shield with the special
It's not that important but it's good info to keep in mind
untold niche
ik deimos can poke muties, but is demis or illisi better against specials/elites
i asume demios
because illisi hordae clears better
jovial juniper
Found some weird interaction, Obscurus second heavy plus a well timed dash to the right throws maulers and crushers to the ground
austere crest
non charged right
jovial juniper
Yeah
austere crest
its very butcher knifey
i dig it still
has its playstyle for sure
Does anyone use this , if so, what are the advantages you see to it and what would make it better?
mighty cipher
Maybe give it some amount of actual healing?
Most of the ”benefits for going down” talents blow ass.
austere crest
Like if the player is revived, team gets 25% corruption clear? maybe that would be a good option
agreed
and i think its because there is a balnce of it being useful, and being taken advantage of
mighty cipher
I think corruption clear would open up some random exploit
mighty cipher
Now, hear me out, make the talent give a perils explosion when a teammate dies/downs in coherency.
austere crest
trying to explore tree, but just dont see giving my team 50% toughness every once in a while in lue of just anything else
like, without popping?
mighty cipher
like, without popping?
No, THEY explode.
austere crest
oh wtf lmfao
mighty cipher
The Marty zealot now has a REAL use for all those wounds.
austere crest
also, decided to mess with Warp Rupture in my build, it's a thing that does things sometimes too.
mighty cipher
Which talent is that?
austere crest
austere crest
yeah
jovial juniper
The Marty zealot now has a REAL use for all those wounds.
Aight, that's a funny way to slander
austere crest
its a thing that exists lol
mighty cipher
Kekw MASSIVE damage falloff.
jovial juniper
Hey, I use that one because my play style
mighty cipher
Warp shotgun
austere crest
it is a good way to apply rending from what i can tell so far
or that slight damage hit just makes them feel squishier
mighty cipher
Oh right, that’s how that works isn’t it.
jovial juniper
Don't use it to push bursters
austere crest
kinetic flayer proces and echose through what it hits, it sounds neat
nooo
i made that mistake out the gate and sent my teammate flying lol
mighty cipher
Lmao
austere crest
its cool when it does kill through, because you like airbend them dead
mighty cipher
Now on a scale of Laspistol to Strikedown light on the blastoom gauntlet, how viciously does it launch?
austere crest
its definitely just a normal push with a lil bump in it, but it is quite satisying getting a group low on health and just pushing and theyre dead
its just not that many lol
4-7 out of say 20 poxwalkers?
mighty cipher
Damn, they robbed us of a COD Zombies Thundergun equivalent.
