psyker-class

[faint gyro]

If only there was more build shots other than 2. I’d keep this one, make this recommended one, and then make a scepter build.

I wanna run head popper with a staff.

[feral verge]

there are 5 build slots

[faint gyro]

How do I unlock them??

[feral verge]

top right

you hit the plus button

top right

[faint gyro]

Oooooohhhhhh

Ok ok.

[lyric burrow]

mankar tf did you spend money on recently

[faint gyro]

Thank you thank you.

[feral verge]

it's really embarassing

[faint gyro]

I thought you could only do it in the talents section, and had to just redo your weapon choices accordingly.

I am glad I’m wrong.

[feral verge]

i am spending money to get a perfect purga staff with 5% crit chance, instead of 4%

the 1% extra crit chance will make me a better player

i swear

[spice veldt]

poor ass

[feral verge]

oops

poor again

@spice veldt i will reduce you to cinders

[spice veldt]

L

[upper sun]

good luck

[mighty olive]

The loadouts will save your cosmetics too, so change it up! XD

I need more loadout slots tbh

[rigid sky]

So as I have said a few times, my gun build is Assail and Scrier's Gaze (and Disrupt Destint). They all synergise really well, but you gotta be careful with the accelerating peril gain

[worn beacon]

Remember, psykers get superior capes

[rigid sky]

It is very easy to listen to the voices and throw that one extra Assail

And then you're fucked

The biggest threat to gunker is arrogance

Ah somebody already filled that in lol

Sorry was on episode 7 of hazbin hotel

[worn beacon]

Ah yes

[rigid sky]

I'm not ready to get to the end of this series

[worn beacon]

Biggest threat to gunker

Gunker himself

[mighty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/kp-cake-ramapo-cakefarts-kpcake-gif-21798148

[rigid sky]

I love all psyker builds except for Surge staff (and not because I think it's weak, it's just boring to me)

Trauma, Purgatus, Void and CIAG, I love 'em all

I just talk about Gunker more because I think it's underappreciated

Too many people have weird misconceptions about it, the old me included

It's not especially ammo hungry

[mighty olive]

There's a reason people don't make much talk about it xD but yeah surge is my least favorite too, needs a change

[rigid sky]

It's not a discount veteran

And it's not weak

[worn beacon]

It's not discount veteran

[rigid sky]

And it's not un-Psyker-y

[mighty olive]

What difficulty do you run gun on?

[worn beacon]

It's veteran

[rigid sky]

Auric Maelstrom

[worn beacon]

With lightning

[mighty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-robert-downey-jr-embarrased-gif-15229880

[rigid sky]

(Admittedly not the no-ammo-pickups one)

But I run it with equal consideration to my other builds

[worn beacon]

Purgatus psykers when they see no ammo maelstrom

[mighty olive]

Love it, that's my bread and butter

Hold on bullet users, I'll pave the way!

[rigid sky]

Good synergy tbh

[faint gyro]

Yeah. Itll be fine. I can’t wait to try it tho. Thank y’all’s for the advice.

[torpid girder]

How does purgatus stack up vs trauma? I'm considering trying ittt

[rigid sky]

You keep the weeds off me and I melt the elites and bosses

[rigid sky]

Very very strong

[worn beacon]

Gun psykers should have manifest destiny instead of disrupt destiny

[torpid girder]

even vs the trauma?! oooo

[mighty olive]

I'm not a trauma fan so I'm not sure, but I enjoy purg!

[rigid sky]

Idk which is better but they both rock

[worn beacon]

There's this funny mechanic purgatus has

Let me get the copypasta

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is a little more rigid with build imo

[mighty olive]

Love copy pasta<3

[torpid girder]

i'm assuming they can both be used in the same type of shriek soulblaze build right? so i could just roll one and try it out

[rigid sky]

You really need warp Siphon to make the most of it

Idk, my Trauma uses bubble and EP Brain Rupture

But Shriek Trauma is very popular too

[torpid girder]

ummm will this get rid of mods?

[rigid sky]

@feral verge is the purgatus theory guy

[mighty olive]

With purg staff I use empowered psyonics brain burst and venting shriek

[torpid girder]

I normally run trauma with warp charges and brain burst so that sounds kinda fun

[worn beacon]

you see a boss/elite pack, you set them on fire with purga staff, with idk 1-3 gusts of fire (that will put 15 stacks of soulblaze on them. then you use venting shriek fire ult at 84% peril (aka ascendant blaze) on them, adding an additional 6 stacks of soulblaze, for a total of 21. then, you swap to your melee with uncanny strike, and attack the boss, or one of the many elites in the head, proccing uncanny strike, which now gives your soulblaze rending capabilities

[mighty olive]

You'll have to reactivate them again but it won't delete

[rigid sky]

Bit of a shame not to run warp Siphon with purgatus imo, since you generate charges like nobody's business so you can really spam the Shriek

[torpid girder]

oh thank goddd okay

[rigid sky]

The Mankar protocol :)

[worn beacon]

Engaging Mankar protocol

[rigid sky]

Purgatus wants to Shriek every opportunity it can, if there's ever a build to do warp charges it's that.

I even sacrifice Kinetic deflection for it

And that friggin hurts man

[torpid girder]

So I want warp flurry and nexus on a purgatus right? wut perks do I want on it?

[rigid sky]

Correct. Flak top priority.

[mighty olive]

I prefer the empowered brain burst over stacks, but it's just my play style, faster stronger BB

[torpid girder]

So flak/manic?

[rigid sky]

Then either crit chance or unyielding iirc

Maniac unnecessary, you use your sword to one-shot Mutants

Purgatus devours all.

Apart from carapace

[mighty olive]

Think I'm running crit and flak on mine but I don't remember xD

I think it is though

[rigid sky]

I do love EP with Brain Rupture but I save that for Trauma

It matters more for me there because of bubble

[mighty olive]

Got ya. I don't run trauma xD it's good I just don't like the playstyle, I had issues with it on vermtintide 2 too lol

[rigid sky]

I have no good ranged apart from staff LMB or Rupture with that and I need to make the 6 second minimum Bubble time count

[torpid girder]

I will say tho trauma soulblaze + shriek has been absolutely carrying me and I cannot wait to try a similar build w/ a good purgatus

[mighty olive]

Yes I hope one day we get different variety of left click for staves

[rigid sky]

It's the most awkward staff but so rewarding and fun imo

I'm starting to like Voidstrike more since they buffed Crushers to not be permastaggered

Which kills some of the Trauma appeal for me

[torpid girder]

wut melee do u recommend pairing w/ purgatus? DS mk4?

[rigid sky]

That or Deimos

Whichever you subjectively prefer

Just make sure it has Uncanny on it

And that you can reliably one-shot Mutants with it (any Heavy on DS4 or H2 on Deimos)

[upper sun]

thats clearly my clip pls dont post it without asking first!!!

[torpid girder]

Wut % do i want cloud radius to be btw? Ik burn damage is super important

[rigid sky]

Burn at least 76%, cloud radius as high as possible

[torpid girder]

i'm sorryyyy i didnt mean to i promise 😭

[rigid sky]

Damage is irrelevant

0 would be fine

[torpid girder]

would 74% be passable or should I buy more purgs?
For cloud radius

[rigid sky]

Quell speed ideally high but of secondary importance

[rigid sky]

For cloud? Eh, would be nice if it was higher

[torpid girder]

i'll try byuying more and seeing wut i get

[rigid sky]

For burn, 76 is a hard floor imo

You lose a max stack otherwise

Which is a lot of damage on bosses

Like use the best you have but keep making them til you have one with better

[upper sun]

purge is not too hard to build you just need two stats unlike truama

[torpid girder]

okay I got these

[rigid sky]

Yeah, Purgatus is a solid first one to build because of that imo

[torpid girder]

1st one would be better?

[rigid sky]

363 is the winner

[torpid girder]

this is literally the one staff i haven't built yet XD

[rigid sky]

Basically a perfect shell

Now let's see what horrible shit Hadron does to it lol

[torpid girder]

Crit chance is fine right?? saveable???

[upper sun]

crit is great

[torpid girder]

SAVED!!!

[upper sun]

ranged damage to flak

yup

see how easy that was

[torpid girder]

How do I want to be using btw? I heard something about quell cancelling before

[upper sun]

i'm 90% they fixed that but i feel like randomly i quell while running

[rigid sky]

Well praise the karkin emperor

[rigid sky]

Burn everything :)

Shriek is a tactical nuke for you now

Basically the Ogryn grenade but on a tiny cooldown with warp charges

[worn beacon]

Ranged? Not just damage?

Isn't 25% to flak better?

[feral verge]

deimos is better imo

[rigid sky]

He means turn Specialist damage to Flak

[hollow current]

To be fair, going by damage Assail is my primary weapon with Melee at second and occasionally first for elite and special bullying. The gun part is mainly used for bosses, reapers and groups of gunners or far snipers.

[feral verge]

deimos is better because it has access to executor, which can boost soulblaze damage, while uncanny strike gives soulblaze rending

[rigid sky]

Also Barrage to flurry

[worn beacon]

Ah

[rigid sky]

At least I presume that, because that is the correct move

[feral verge]

im assuming you dont know aobut soulblaze + uncanny strike, so here is my copy pasta from yesterday about it
[7:55 AM]
uncanny strike is very important, and very powerful. uncanny strike will allow you to melt elite packs and bosses with soulblaze
[7:55 AM]
you see a boss/elite pack, you set them on fire with purga staff, with idk 1-3 gusts of fire (that will put 15 stacks of soulblaze on them. then you use venting shriek fire ult at 84% peril (aka ascendant blaze) on them, adding an additional 6 stacks of soulblaze, for a total of 21. then, you swap to your melee with uncanny strike, and attack the boss, or one of the many elites in the head, proccing uncanny strike, which now gives your soulblaze rending capabilities. furthermore, deimos with uncanny + executor blessings will stack FOUR TIMES in one special light attack to the head of even a trash enemy

[torpid girder]

How much does the damage stat actually affect things? and how should I be actually using the purgatus? i've never tried it out befopre

[worn beacon]

What horde?

[upper sun]

crit chance is better than specialist damage

[worn beacon]

I don't see no horde

[upper sun]

ask mankar

[rigid sky]

Damage is just the application tick

Which is a tiny proportion of the overall damage

[torpid girder]

oh wow i just compared mine to mankar's in the screenshot and mankar's only has 1 more damage lol
it really doesn't matter

[rigid sky]

LMB is to stagger shit, RMB is to burn the world. Don't use it on single targets apart from stacking on a boss

[torpid girder]

i thought u were exaggerating saying it could be 0%

[feral verge]

i'd prefer to have quell speed or warp resist to be lower than the damage stat. just so i can get as much juice out of the staffas possible

[rigid sky]

Nope, dead serious

[torpid girder]

would u recommend running assail or brainburst? and would uncanny strike + executor on the deimos be better than running deflector?

[feral verge]

brain burst

[rigid sky]

Brain Burst tbh

[feral verge]

yes uncanny + executor would be miles better than deflector

[rigid sky]

Deflector isn't bad but I kinda think it's unnecessary on Purgatus especially due to Empathic Evasion

[feral verge]

while really neat, the usefulness of deflector can be almost entirely negated by effective dodging

[rigid sky]

You should be autododging most ranged attacks

[torpid girder]

oooh okay
could u recommend a build w/ this?

[rigid sky]

Just copy Mankar's

I changed mine to his

[feral verge]

i have 2 purga builds. this is my pure purga dps build

this is my EP + BB purga build

which is also really fun and effective

[rigid sky]

Eh, I would take a build that gets empathic evasion either way though

[torpid girder]

also oh my god just realized i've been running inner tranquility and not essence harvest on my trauma soulblaze shriek build this whole time... i'm such an idiot

[rigid sky]

Also Kinetic deflection is a luxury node that can be skipped but the 5% crit above it is essential

[feral verge]

im just waiting for them to rework/buff kinetic flayer

idk what i'd give up to take it tho

5% movespeed is neat

[torpid girder]

is wildfire bad?

[rigid sky]

Huh, my build is actually quite different from yours now that I look

[feral verge]

it is not as bad as people claim

[rigid sky]

Mostly yeah. It works better on Blaze trauma.

[feral verge]

but it is not as amazing as it may sound, when reading the description

[rigid sky]

Purgatus wants warp siphon

That's fucking expensive

9 point investment

Wildfire is too marginal to sap a point away from something more impactful

[torpid girder]

Also just realized i wasn't running soulstealer on my trauma blaze build either... i'm so dumb 😭

[rigid sky]

If you go with an EP build then maybe

[feral verge]

this is without warp siphon

[rigid sky]

Eep

[feral verge]

warp siphon is great, but not the end all be all for purga

[rigid sky]

Soulsteaser essential imo

[torpid girder]

Why am i running quietude wtf

[feral verge]

warp siphon should be your default choice though

[rigid sky]

Because it's fucking sick

Why would you not

[torpid girder]

over soulstealer thoooo?

[feral verge]

unless you really want to lean into BB, which i am atm

[rigid sky]

False dichotomy

Run both

[feral verge]

run both

[torpid girder]

i'm going to drop kinetic deflection for soulstealer >:)

[rigid sky]

You melt if anything melees you with dented toughness

[feral verge]

the first build i posted has kinetic deflect, soul stealer and soul harvest

[rigid sky]

So getting as many ways to preserve and replenish toughness as possible is key

[feral verge]

that's the build i used to get 1 mil damage

[rigid sky]

Seriously, two bruisers sneaking up behind you puts you into critical already

[torpid girder]

on my trauma build i'm actually not sure what I should drop for soulstealer besides wildfire

[feral verge]

oh this is on trauma

[rigid sky]

Well why not drop wildfire then

Wildfire is only ever marginal

[feral verge]

i would sooner drop wildfire than kinetic deflect, soul stealer, quietitude ect.

[rigid sky]

I take it on Trauma because I have literally everything from the top of the tree besides Battle Meditation

[torpid girder]

How much would dropping wildfire affect dps?

[rigid sky]

I have nowhere better to put that point besides like puppet master

And I am so offended by the left leg of the tree that I simply refuse lol

[rigid sky]

I doubt you would ever notice

It is much worse than it pretends to be

Perilous Combustion is miles better

[torpid girder]

this is what i originally ran
i fixed the warp siphon nodes to grab essence harvest

[rigid sky]

And even that is only ok

This is for Trauma?

[torpid girder]

yaaa

[rigid sky]

I don't think the "soulblaze gives warp charges" talent is so great without Purgatus tbh

[torpid girder]

i'm going to basically copy mankar's first build for purg but grab the cooldown aura over the damage one

[rigid sky]

Blaze Trauma is more Trauma than Blaze.

The Blaze is a wonderful bonus effect

[torpid girder]

that's why i run psychic vampire :)

[rigid sky]

You will probably get more use out of

Ooh so you do

My bad

OK well we agree anyway :)

Ditch wildfire, acquire soul stealer

Live forever and a day

[torpid girder]

i'll try that out! if i somehow notice a major dps drop which i doubt i could always just switch back after all

[rigid sky]

So, Wildfire will only ever apply up to 4 stacks off of a Corpse at the end of its death animation

It disperses them among nearby targets, and cannot add past 4

Meaning if a target has 4 already, nothing.

Meaning if there are 4 targets nearby, they take 1 stack each for example.

[torpid girder]

ohhhhh

i actually did not know it physically couldn't add stacks if they already had 4 or more

[rigid sky]

Meaning it only applies when the target has been dead for a couple of seconds already

[torpid girder]

I thought it always just added a max of 4 whenever something died

that's rlly useful to know

[orchid shadow]

If you run scoreboard or PowerDI, run a few games without Wildfire and check the difference. My Soulblaze damage was about 20-25% of my damage. Dropping Wildfire took that down 18 to 20%, but I made up for it in other ways. So the overall % against your total damage isn't going to much.

[rigid sky]

Perilous Combustion on the other hand

Kill an elite, and everything near it takes 3 stacks

Elite or special, I forget

Doesn't have to be a Blaze kill even

[torpid girder]

both >:D

[rigid sky]

You can just brain rupture a sniper in the middle of a cluster

And oops

Everyone is burning

[torpid girder]

oops! all fire

[cosmic sigil]

i did a run with as much blaze than trauma in terms of dmg 😄

[rigid sky]

Is that with Shriek too?

[cosmic sigil]

ah yeah of course

but i found that funny

[rigid sky]

I use bubble so my burn is just to widen out the kill radius on the Trauma

But that puts me in the support build umbrella more I guess

Just love having the ability to breach a chokepoint with it

[torpid girder]

i run shriek cuz its soo powerful and i LOVE the ult line deliveries

[feral verge]

worship me or die

[torpid girder]

"I CAN'T CONTROL IT"
"NO!... OUT OF MY MIND"

[rigid sky]

And all my other builds are damage-carries so it's only fair that I do support sometimes :)

Ew savant

Join the Loner side

[feral verge]

savant normie simp pick

[mighty olive]

i love the female seer's voicelines XD

she's in love with the ogryns

[rigid sky]

(Kidding I love savant too as a teammate)

(Would get bored playing one though lol)

[worn beacon]

Uhhhhhh

How do I put it

[rigid sky]

Seer is hilarious and disturbing

[torpid girder]

hey i made my psyker when i first started playing okay idk much about warhammer and didnt think too much of it 😭

[rigid sky]

And no bastard ever plays it lol

I always get a happy feeling when I see a seer

[upper sun]

is that the romanian accent?

[torpid girder]

seer scares me cuz they're aware of the 4th wall

[rigid sky]

Seer is the one who keeps going on about their beloved

And thinks it's all a dream

[upper sun]

ahh

[feral verge]

pretty sure seer is english

[rigid sky]

Savant is the kind enforcer

[feral verge]

male loner is german

[rigid sky]

And Loner is the megalomaniac with a heart of gold

[feral verge]

female loner is actually indian

[worn beacon]

I've got two psykers and one is savant and second is loner

[upper sun]

nah ones romanian ones french

[rigid sky]

Male psyker has the single best line in the game with the whole "four shortened lifespans" rant

[torpid girder]

"I'm sensing fear, rage, and four shortened lifespans... No, FORESHORTENED lifespans not four short- why are you not paying attention?? Look at me, not them!"

seer psyker scares me

[feral verge]

va for female loner is indian

[rigid sky]

I died the first time my character started spouting that line

[upper sun]

im talking about the accents they are doing not the va

[rigid sky]

Because I was giggling too hard to fight the horde

Petulant little bitch wants the team to pay attention to his rambling and not the wall of poxwalkers crashing down on them

[feral verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1829uqe/voice_female_psyker_loner/

[upper sun]

she sounds like several romans ive actually known

besides that if its on reddit its clearly wrong

[feral verge]

reddit always right

i love reddit

reddit ftw

[spice veldt]

and mankar always wrong

[hollow current]

surge staff best hordeclear

[spice veldt]

you shall die

[feral verge]

I WILL MAKE YOU DISAPPEAR

[worn beacon]

I wonder what are accents for veterans

[upper sun]

australian? new zealander? idk

[feral verge]

from the reddit thread i posted

Female Judge is Japanese, Male Judge is English.

Female Loose Cannon is Irish, Male Loose Cannon is English (Leeds regional).

Female Professional is English (London Cockney), Male Professional is English (Yorkshire),

Female Cutthroat is English (i think might be Sheffield regional?). Male Cutthroat English (Essex Regional).

Female Savant is French, Male Psyker Savant is West African.

Edit: listening back think Female Zealot is Glasgow and Male is Edinburgh.

[upper sun]

the cadians are just from a dumpster

[worn beacon]

So basically veterans are just british except for female loose cannon

Wait female savant is french?

[upper sun]

i like how we lost everything from the age of technology except accents

[worn beacon]

I'VE BECOME WHAT I SWORE TO DESTROY

[feral verge]

lol how did you not now

she has a very strng, obviously fr*nch accent

[upper sun]

A NAUSEATING DENOUEMENT

[worn beacon]

I am bad with accents

[upper sun]

i actually had to google denouement

[worn beacon]

I was supposed to fight the french not join them

[feral verge]

pls censor the word fr*nch, ty

and add a trigger warning

[distant quartz]

Then what would female loner be?

Russian?

[feral verge]

i think she has an indian accent, her VA is indian

but clad psyk says she sounds like romanian's he's known irl

[worn beacon]

I only wished to not sound like mosquito

[distant quartz]

She sounds European than Indian I must say

[feral verge]

there are certain prononciatiosn she uses that sound incredibly indian

the one that coems to mind is "where are you going?"

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1813326/bio/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

actress's imdb

[distant quartz]

I dont think thats her

[feral verge]

that's her

[distant quartz]

https://www.zehrajanenaqvi.com/

[feral verge]

same person lol

[distant quartz]

I see

Can’t wait to Microsoft support and pop heads

[cosmic sigil]

I disagree

Female Savant is French > nope

she's brit, born and bred

she's vaguely sounding French

[faint gyro]

Keith.

Change your name. It’s not scary… and I’m embarrassed to say it.

Boris, try that.

[cosmic sigil]

like the Male one, he's from Zimbabwe iirc

[worn beacon]

I am saved

Fuck

[upper sun]

she uses english words that have french origins

[cosmic sigil]

it's the pronunciation too

[feral verge]

Ask @vocal cliff

She's fr*nch

[cosmic sigil]

I am a French native speaker

we're invading your discords

[feral verge]

...

[cosmic sigil]

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm7754405/?ref_=m_ttfcd_cl18

that's her

[feral verge]

I have a disgusting gross horrible Fr*nch last name

[upper sun]

huh same hair as my psyker

[worn beacon]

The only thing imperium can't eradicate it's the French

[cosmic sigil]

Oh?

[feral verge]

It's my greatest shame

[cosmic sigil]

!!!

[feral verge]

And unpronounceable to the common folk

[cosmic sigil]

what is it?

[torpid girder]

obv ur just scared for the emperor cuz u know what we do to royalty

[upper sun]

does it end in 17 silent vowels?

[cosmic sigil]

i am intrigued

[worn beacon]

Protector ogryn sounds like heavy tf2

[upper sun]

yeah please tell us your last name

social sec number middle name birthdate and phone number

[feral verge]

DuPlessis

[cosmic sigil]

ah fuck i forgot you identity theft pb in the us with basic stuff

[cosmic sigil]

ah fuck that's harsh man

[feral verge]

A cruel fate

[cosmic sigil]

that must be so hard for people

[worn beacon]

The god-emperor needs your help uniting humankind and defeating the xenos, all you have to do is send your credit card numbet, expiration date and the 3 numbers on the back

[feral verge]

They pronounce it do plesis or do plessy

[cosmic sigil]

My mate working for Valve is Pierre-Loup Griffais

[feral verge]

I'd take my last name over that any day

At least some people think my last name is Greek

[feral verge]

With this, there is no hiding what you are

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah his name is butchered in every interview (he's the guy behind the steam deck basically)

[feral verge]

I had to dumb down my last name for teachers/coworkers to pronounce it right

Do-play-see

[worn beacon]

I still can't believe DeBussy is real french surname

[feral verge]

https://youtu.be/KUFpcPEcwTo?si=dA53xQSaYQeoFksw

[cosmic sigil]

I discovered the term Bussy quite recently

[feral knoll]

I realize now I read the Malleus Monstronum penance wrong

I thought I had to do 90% damage with ONE singular brain burst and was infinitely confused

[torpid girder]

Wut do I want on a deimos again? Flakiac and executor/uncanny?

for purgatus

[feral verge]

No flak

Flak useless on deimos

Deimos already destroys flak

@torpid girder

Maniac for mutie one shot

[rose dagger]

Slaughterer always good too

Def want uncanny

[feral verge]

Unyielding for boss damage (which also affects soul blaze)

[feral verge]

Not on deimos

It's okay

Slaughterer shines on horde clear weapons, like illisi

Deimos is single target

[upper sun]

im pretty sure you dont need maniac to one shot muties with deimos

[feral verge]

You will get far more value from executor

[rose dagger]

Deimos can kinda horde clear, much better than DS at least

[feral verge]

I know it can

[torpid girder]

Would this be an okay base?

[feral verge]

But that is not its purpose

[feral verge]

Yes

[torpid girder]

does finesse and damage being that low affect any breakpoints?

[feral verge]

It's fine

Don't worry about it

[upper sun]

finesse isnt that low

if you click inspect you can see how much they effect the stat

[torpid girder]

noooooo

[feral knoll]

joins auric maelstrom to immediate loss

“What happened here?”

level 21 Zealot

“Ahhhhhh.”

[upper sun]

just change the blessings its still good

[torpid girder]

oooh okay

[feral verge]

Yeah peak deimos has unyielding + elite/maniac/carapace

[upper sun]

you actually get alot of freedom with two changable blessings

you can put on uncanny then executor or uncanny and deflector if you need extra defense

[feral verge]

@upper sun you're right about the accent btw, I think

I saw female loner va website

She had an Indian accent reel

It was different from the accent used in game

[upper sun]

i know because i find romanian accents very pleasent and i love hearing it in game

[feral verge]

Racism detected

Mods, destroy him

[upper sun]

you were saying?

[torpid girder]

just consecrated 15 deimos force swords to get uncanny strike lolll

18k plasteel down the drain

[feral verge]

You'll live

[upper sun]

still no slaughter 4

[feral verge]

I've sent far far far more down the drain

[upper sun]

youll prolly get it through melk i got 4 good ones that way

[feral verge]

I have almost every t4 blessing for everything

Just missing ogryn weps

Cuz I don't have ogryn levelled

[upper sun]

i finally got an ogryn to 30 today

[torpid girder]

Time to try these out 👀

i want to basically ignore the special attack for deimos right?

i'll go learn its combos firsttt

[upper sun]

nah you can use it sometimes when you arent in risk

its good the issue with it is the animation lock

[torpid girder]

oooh it's like a chain weapon?

[feral verge]

You can use it to instantly get 4 stacks of executor and uncanny

[upper sun]

a bit worse some chain swords break early if the enemy dies i think

[feral verge]

im assuming you dont know aobut soulblaze + uncanny strike, so here is my copy pasta from yesterday about it
[7:55 AM]
uncanny strike is very important, and very powerful. uncanny strike will allow you to melt elite packs and bosses with soulblaze
[7:55 AM]
you see a boss/elite pack, you set them on fire with purga staff, with idk 1-3 gusts of fire (that will put 15 stacks of soulblaze on them. then you use venting shriek fire ult at 84% peril (aka ascendant blaze) on them, adding an additional 6 stacks of soulblaze, for a total of 21. then, you swap to your melee with uncanny strike, and attack the boss, or one of the many elites in the head, proccing uncanny strike, which now gives your soulblaze rending capabilities. furthermore, deimos with uncanny + executor blessings will stack FOUR TIMES in one special light attack to the head of even a trash enemy

[upper sun]

that works with illisi too right?

[feral verge]

Yes

[upper sun]

sweet

[torpid girder]

oooh u don't blow up even with a fully charged right click as long as u don't start it at 100??

[upper sun]

you mean the block push? yeah

[torpid girder]

Oh i meant with purgatus

[torpid girder]

So special light attack to proc the buffs and then I spam heavies?

[feral verge]

Yes. You can also sit back and watch them melt if it's too dangerous to get close

Atleast, till uncanny/executor wear off

[torpid girder]

oooh executor disappears if i miss the head

[orchid shadow]

Weird that that is still a thing when they fixed switching between assail and your gun.

[feral verge]

Yes. Not as big of a problem as you may think

[torpid girder]

I like how consistently u can stay at high peril w/ this staff

time to try it out in a real mission!

i totally thought the fire would come out of the staff tho so i made it look like a flamethrower now i need to change it >:/

[worn beacon]

Wb male loner

[feral verge]

What about him

German

Atleast the accent is

Idk Abt the VA

[vocal cliff]

Why was I pinged here

Couldn't find it in the notif section

[stuck sinew]

I don't think the VA is German

[tired estuary]

Apparently the male loner VA did ogryn bully too and uhh, an orc in Lord of Ring: Gollum so I think he's just got a wide range

[stuck sinew]

He's also the bully ogryn

Oh I don't read

As much as he's probably my favourite voice in the game he does sound more like a German cartoon villain than a native speaker

[cinder moon]

female savant was boring at first, but whenever there's a bodyguard ogryn on the team she can be really funny

[hollow current]

something about the female savant psyker and you being french

[paper harbor]

Like what line she spoke is funny?

[cinder moon]

i remember bodyguard said something ultra self aware, female savant took it in stride at first then went "wait, what did you just say??"

[paper harbor]

You can use search history mention user yourself

[paper harbor]

Lol

[stuck sinew]

I like the one with Loner and Bully where Bully says something about the world being terrible and Loner being shocked at being in agreement for once

[cinder moon]

here we go, found the clip

[torpid girder]

Okay so I learned force sword push attacks give u peril the hard way...
I also learned why everyone loves kinetic deflection so much

[worn beacon]

Free blocks

[next turret]

where are these emperors own matchstick and stuff coming form?

ive never seen these weapons

the master sword?

[jovial mural]

anyone ever got the psykhanium cinematic?
it never showed up for me in game and i cant seem to find it on youtube if you can find the vid could you send it to me

[frail harness]

Mod

[jovial mural]

kinetic deflection is such a good talent

[feral verge]

They are using a mod to rename their weapons

[torpid girder]

okay i must be using the purgatus wrong

or the build in general

cuzzz idk if i'm really feeling this build

am i supposed to just be spamming purgatus m1s and melees and then when a horde that's too big shows up that's when I M2?

[vocal cliff]

Ah

And once again I didn't get notified of this xd

[feral verge]

If you aren't topping the scoreboard then somethings wrong

Might have to change tactics

[spice veldt]

i just RMB most times

cuz faster soulblaze application

i only ever LMB for stagger

e.g., maulers/ragers/bulwarks

[torpid girder]

i must be playing it wrong somehow then lolll

[spice veldt]

if the density isn't enough to warrant the purg, i just melee usually

[cinder moon]

i ran into a sibling the other night that only ever M1'd their purgatus

fwoosh-fwoosh-fwoosh-fwoosh-fwoosh

maddening

[torpid girder]

ya idrk what i'm doing wrong really :/

also please ignore that 1 death i got grabbed by a chaos spawn and when it died i fell out of bounds :)

[wet belfry]

Use barrels to get rid of teammates

[spice veldt]

so true

memorize all barrel teamkjll locations and get to work

[wet belfry]

Purgatus is a natural at activating barrels

[torpid girder]

"Oopsies i didn't mean to barrel you off the map for the 3rd time 🥺 👉👈"

i genuinely have no clue how i'm supposed to play this tho

Wut melee do u run w/ purgatus?

[spice veldt]

with very little braincells

if you put more than 0.1 braincells into Purg, you might be doing it wrong

[torpid girder]

cuz like in TF2 terms I feel like i'm playing a pyro using the brass beast

but also without the range

maybe i should look up gameplay of purgatus lol

[spice veldt]

preferably one without bloom

I run ds4 most times, with the other alternative being deimos

[tawny pebble]

what's the finesse breakpoint on illisi?

do i even bother bringing this across the hall for hadron to brick

[lunar hollow]

shut up mankar

[feral verge]

I'm not aware of any finesse breakpoints. You just want it to be as high as possible

[tawny pebble]

Well, Hadron bricked it, as I thought

[feral verge]

You should bother if you don't have good t4 blessings for force swords

[tawny pebble]

She gave me only those I had already, unfortunately

[feral verge]

You are seemingly more likely to roll t4 blessings on high item ratings

Rip

[tawny pebble]

I've just rolled another with all high 70%+ stats, but abysmal First Target lol

[feral verge]

Mods, blatant trolling, flaming and general assholery. Ban him.

[lunar hollow]

first target doesn't work for the special activation

[tawny pebble]

That I'm aware of

[lunar hollow]

the day they fix this all of the 1 illisis i use will be ruined

[tawny pebble]

i'm drowning in plasteel and diamantine because i kept forgetting to play weapon lottery

so i just went all in

[cinder moon]

now roll another one until you get slaughterer or your choice of other blessing

[feral verge]

Dont listen to josho for any advice, he is like 2.5k hours deep into the game and still running around with t3 blessings

[spice veldt]

don't listen to mankar he's a creature wearing human skin

[lunar hollow]

mankar is too stupid to test for breakpoints so he just spends all of his plasteel for t4s

[cinder moon]

siblings, can't we all just get along?

[lunar hollow]

he spent 100k plasteel in like an hour when carnival pt 2 dropped

[feral verge]

No @cinder moon

[spice veldt]

cringe

mankar L

[lunar hollow]

i hate this guy

he's the worst

[cinder moon]

imagine hating someone you don't even know

[feral verge]

Josho is actually canonically the worst

[spice veldt]

i know that mankar is the worst human being on earth

worst than josho

[feral verge]

Worse*

Idiot

[tawny pebble]

can we at least consult the emperor on this matter

[feral verge]

Learn English

[spice veldt]

shush

[lunar hollow]

kill mankar

behead mankar

[cinder moon]

yes, inquisitor, these two right here

[spice veldt]

eat his body

[feral verge]

All those big dumb math numbers, @spice veldt and you can't even speak proper English

[cinder moon]

time to send them off to the black ships

[lunar hollow]

no

[spice veldt]

yes

consume mankar

[lunar hollow]

do not associate me with this guy

[cinder moon]

you're both being silly billies

[feral verge]

Thy kind are all of a piece

[torpid girder]

Okay yea Idrk how to use this
i technically top damaged but it's alot lower than what my psyker usually gets + it was on auric mael so there should have been tons of enemies to farm dmg on

didn't kill like any specials either but maybe thats supposed to be normal

[feral verge]

Not normal

[spice veldt]

i can usually do some sniping in pubs

even with brain burst

[torpid girder]

idrk what i'm doing wrong cuz i even figured out i can just spam half charged m2s to keep warp flurry permanently up

[feral verge]

Play harder, get angry, pretend all enemies are josho

[spice veldt]

you're also using the default damage dealt that comes with the scoreboard and not the ovenproof damage dealt

since the default damage dealt has issues with not properly cutting off overkill damage if it's the killing blow

[feral verge]

Oh here we go with the nerd

[spice veldt]

eat mankar

[feral verge]

Well aschtuchually

[lunar hollow]

this would just make you live in constant fear of a poxburster explosion

[spice veldt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071880005279285340/1198832334359765083/d23aa4a02a7551f8dd1b04bcb0561cb26f766a62_1.gif

[torpid girder]

Idk anymore maybe i'll just stick w/ trauma 😭 😭

[feral verge]

My only other guess is that you're not aggressive enough

I play very aggressively and I'm usually in the front

[torpid girder]

i tried doing that and then i would get shot by like 5 million gunners and 4 ragers/crushers would take my lunch money

[feral verge]

Dodge more, stagger with lmb, suppress with rmb, stagger with venting shriek

That's how

Bb annoying distsnt gunners

[torpid girder]

i feel like wut gets me is the just extreme lack of range and how slow u are while M2ing

[feral verge]

I usually slide Dodge while doing m2

It maintains some speed

I'll slide Dodge into the enemy

[torpid girder]

I'll dodgeslide at 3/3 dodges and then I go 6 inches

it got me grabbed by a chaos spawn at one point

[feral verge]

If you continue to play with it, you'll likely grow more comfortable with it and improve over time

But if not, that's okay. It's not for everybody

Maybe tomorrow I'll record my gameplay

[lunar hollow]

poxburstered 7 times in 5 minutes

[torpid girder]

i love poxbursters

[feral verge]

I don't get poxburstered, really. Not by myself

[lunar hollow]

the trick is to sacrifice your teammates to the chaos gods

[feral verge]

It's josho

He constantly, and I mean constantly, blows me up with poxbursters

[cosmic sigil]

If Josho was a god he would be Loki

[feral verge]

Usually--somehow--he has no clue that it was even there

[lunar hollow]

i blew myself up 4 fkin times in one game

ur not special

i do it to everyone (mostly myself)

[feral verge]

Jarvis, look up correlations between autism and poxbursters

[spice veldt]

F

[lunar hollow]

"how can someone so intelligent exist within someone so stupid" - anonymous

[spice veldt]

who did you hire to ghostwrite your crusher guide

[feral verge]

An ogryn main

[lunar hollow]

nobody

i have played minimal amounts of ogryn in the last like 2-ish months

[feral verge]

Level 550 or something

[lunar hollow]

they made most ogryn weapons viabl;e

so i played with like all of them

[feral verge]

Zealot a lowly 400

[lunar hollow]

480

[feral verge]

Vet lowly 300 I think

[lunar hollow]

my vet is 400

[feral verge]

Psyker a lowly 250

[lunar hollow]

i have almost 900 levels on vet/zealot

[spice veldt]

cringe

[lunar hollow]

void trauma and gunker are fun

but the class is not like

super interesting to me

[spice veldt]

yeah that's fair

still cringe

[feral verge]

Theil is 741, Mai is 715, Chancer is 128 and Grummite is 25

[lunar hollow]

there's nothing that really clicks with me like zealot or vet weapons do

[spice veldt]

i enjoyed assail for some time but even that got boring

[feral verge]

Do you know why I named him Grummite

[spice veldt]

why

[lunar hollow]

u probably told me and then i forgot

[spice veldt]

this will be on your next exam

[feral verge]

Cuz he looks like this

From oblivion

[spice veldt]

lmao

[lunar hollow]

lol

i want to rename my psyker

the default name must go

[spice veldt]

same

[feral verge]

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Grummite

[torpid girder]

I felt like an entire section of my brain get its dust blown off of it

[lunar hollow]

i would rename my vet but the fucking comedy of someone recognizing me in an eu lobby one of the first times i played with mittins and insulting me

was too funny

dumb takes dumber person

[spice veldt]

ah that's what it was

[feral verge]

Dumb takes and an even dumber person

[spice veldt]

i agree

they got that part right

[feral verge]

Why did you crop out the zealot

Your agitator zealot

[lunar hollow]

because she isnt a level 30 so i dont count her

[torpid girder]

they cropped out the zealot

[feral verge]

She is based

[lunar hollow]

she exists to farm t2 blessings

[feral verge]

If I could, I'd swap my psyker and zealot names

Mai is Asian, female judge is Asian

Theil is a weird psykery name

[lunar hollow]

i wish to name my psyker franz von drippenburg

if only i had foresight

[spice veldt]

i'd name my characters to more whacky shit

cat-cake-made-from-real-cats
baby-powder-from-real-babies
stuff like that

[lunar hollow]

what the hell

[feral verge]

I like it

[spice veldt]

thank u

[feral verge]

Baby back ribs made from real baby ribs

[lunar hollow]

i think u can make a forum post for a name change

[spice veldt]

i don't think they're ever going to accept what i want

[lunar hollow]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/request-change-the-name-of-three-characters/92061/3

look at this

[spice veldt]

o damn

[late jasper]

I’m a first time player on PC. I’m in the Psycarium. How do I charge the sword?

[spice veldt]

it should be either one of the side buttons on your mouse or the middle mouse button

if it's the side buttons and you don't have any on your mouse, you'll have to rebind it to something else

[late jasper]

Yep. The side button. Thanks.

[spice veldt]

fyi, the information pertaining to toughness in the tutorial is wrong

since the tutorial is effectively running a beta version of the game

[lunar hollow]

reading these made me remember my friend was unable to name his psyker KANYE-WEST

[spice veldt]

melee damage will bleed through into your health based on the missing % amount of toughness you have
If you have 100% toughness, (most) melee attacks deal 0 damage to your health
If you have 75% toughness, (most) melee attacks will have (100% - 75%) = 25% damage bleed through into your hp

I say "(most)", since there are exceptions in the form of the Mauler/Crusher overheads, whose attacks have a minimum amount of bleedthrough, and they will bleed through even more if you do not have enough flat toughness to tank the hit

[spice veldt]

so sad

i was going to name my characters just plain-ol' "arcotash" but it wasn't allowed for some reason

i even tried just "arco" and it wouldn't work

[lunar hollow]

f

[potent echo]

The hell

[slim hazel]

how does one play Psyker? I know Psyker has really low hp and I'm used to just tanking stuff at close range so

[potent echo]

Psyker has a lower dodge CD so they can dodge in succession quicker

[slim hazel]

and also most of their abilities have A LOT of pushback

from what I saw

[potent echo]

Venting shriek is great, you can pick up some staves and experiment, but you probably need a few levels to unlock them

[paper harbor]

Rpg moment

[untold niche]

Gunker said to the stave psyker

[paper harbor]

Tbf I am both

[wind spruce]

Are you sure the damage bleedthrough is completely based on % toughness and is not affected by total toughness? It's been on my to test list for awhile but haven't gotten around to it

[sullen sphinx]

I think it's still ℅ based. I tried switching toughness nodes and curios and didn't notice much difference at bleedthrough

[uneven parcel]

I wish I could rename my psyker, I named my psyker simp with the assumption that I would be able to change my name.

[jovial mural]

i think you should be able to now or soon

[dim parrot]

ayo my siblings, whats poppin

[jovial mural]

my brain

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[wide heron]

Wasnt expecting this when I opened up the shop

[jovial mural]

ok thats insane

i usually can only find weapons with 2 or 3 80s never 4 damn

[radiant frigate]

that is a lot of levels

[wide heron]

saw 380 and expected random 70s not this haha

[radiant frigate]

about as good as an obscurus is going to get

[dim parrot]

true still an obscurus sadly enough

[patent wing]

the Atheneum says sth about a thunderous blessing - which weapon is it available for?

[untold niche]

use the website to checl

[patent wing]

ah the achlys

totally forgot

[patent wing]

didnt know that feature nice

[radiant frigate]

so, various axes (non-tactical) and all blunt weapons

[worn beacon]

Can I confidently say that I was carrying this 😭

[wind spruce]

Gotta do actual value tests not feels based

[rotund fable]

I joined a game in progress and clutched it up (they had 2 people dead and another guy who was being actively eaten by a dog), and i was rewarded with the thrust 4 blessing.

[wind spruce]

Congratulations on your useless blessing

[worn beacon]

Yay or Nay staff stats?

[sullen sphinx]

Looks decent, now pray to Hadron not to brick it

[plucky flax]

It's okay would be better to have warp resistance and quell speed swapped imo

[dim parrot]

Im finally trying to build a good trauma

[sullen sphinx]

Join our Trauma cult

[plucky flax]

Good trauma? It's impossible

[radiant frigate]

what about serviceable trauma

[dim parrot]

I heard, I will still try
what are the best blessings again?

[dim parrot]

lets say best for my lunatic playstyle

[plucky flax]

You know the best ones.

Not the rending ones

[sullen sphinx]

Flurry+ Rending or Nexus+ Blazing. If feeling spicy can try Flurry+Blazing

[rigid sky]

Remember when it was bugged and gave triple the power? Good times

Hacking off Crusher heads in one mighty swing

[dim parrot]

what sucks about rending?

[vestal fulcrum]

Nothing. It’s just the inferior choice to what Blazing Spirit Trauma does

(AgentChaos will tell you otherwise, don’t listen to them )

[rigid sky]

They are both great atm

[dim parrot]

so I definitely want blazing got it

[rigid sky]

Blazing is definitely way more fun

And also super frustrating

It feels like trying to light a hob with a dodgy starter

[plucky flax]

Turn on bloom and play soulblaze

Ultimate eyes bleed.

[rigid sky]

But it solves the issue of Trauma only dealing significant damage right in the epicentre

If you get a crit then the flames will deal much more significant damage to everything that's even just in the mild stumble part of the splash

Whereas the brittleness Trauma just shoots faster and softens up Crushers

Which is a bigger deal these days since they become immune to stagger after recovering from a stagger

You can't just invalidate them by keeping them on the floor any more

I think since the Crusher change, Brittleness has been effectively boosted a fair bit

[pine carbon]

Just wait until Hadron rips this to shreds

[rigid sky]

But Blaze still has the fun factor

[upper sun]

anyone getting infinite loading screens when switching chars?

im just trying to minmax my melkies 😢

[radiant frigate]

meanwhile i think i might be physically incapable of playing vet now

had too much fun with illisi

[rigid sky]

Illisi feels like what the power sword should be

Power Sword is obviously strong but weirdly unsatisfying imo

[stuck sinew]

Do you have power cycler?

I like the mkVI cause at least you have a really good single target stab to work with

[rigid sky]

Only power cycler III still somehow

I have a great VI but it's still languishing with PC3

But I can change it the moment PC4 drops

[upper sun]

do not jump this

it is not a hanging ledge

you will get stuck and brick the mission

[radiant frigate]

it's a power cycler 4 brutal momentum power sword VI

[plucky flax]

I don't like the change to power sword.

[radiant frigate]

it is a bit trippy

[wind spruce]

More like if you're feeling like running a dumb ass build flurry + blazing

[plucky flax]

I have to block cancel before doing l123 special again.

[radiant frigate]

or you can do l12h

takes a lot of getting used to

[dim parrot]

Illisi my beloved

gimme more swords with a horizontal attack pattern

[rigid sky]

Devil's Claw IV is good for that too I think? Versatile attack patterns at least

never used it so idk

But that does seem to be a rarity with psyker melee

Guess that's why the Illisi is so revered in particular, it has nothing to compete with

it could be a piece of shit and it'd still be good

(but fortunately it's also objectively great)

[dim parrot]

maybe someday a force longsword with horizontal attack pattern, who knows

[patent wing]

id say force spear but we already have mk4 ds

[rigid sky]

where's my force shovel

[upper sun]

wheres my force power sword?

[rigid sky]

Force power chain shovel

[dim parrot]

pls gimme force swiss knife that has every other force option build in

[upper sun]

special: all crushers run away when you trigger the active

[patent wing]

i want wings

i dont wanna walk

[dim parrot]

u hungry?

[patent wing]

force wings

[dim parrot]

gimme them spicy force wings

[upper sun]

the amount of chatter about space marines or sisters of battle

it would be cool if when the entire team dies you get a 1:200 chance of having them save you

it would stop people from leaving when they die

[rigid sky]

and then after they save the day they shoot you too

since you're probably infected with the nurglepox

not worth taking a strategic risk for a little gaggle of penal soldiers

[upper sun]

and after that you wake up still in the prison ship

[rigid sky]

Only In Death Does Duty End

(and even then not always)

ooh, actually, that's a point

are there psyker dreadnaughts?

[upper sun]

I think so

[rigid sky]

That sounds pretty fucking sick (in every sense of the word)

think that'd be my loner's literal worst nightmare

so I'd like to think that's his eventual fate

imagine a 12 tonne death machine rambling on about four shortened lifespans

LOOK AT ME, NOT AT THEM

[upper sun]

I remember there was a short story about a very young space marine who ended up as a dreadnaught and he was so self conscious until the rest of his squad kept complementing him

[rigid sky]

d'awwwwww

[gloomy magnet]

whenever patch dropped, i have to re-patch mods again...

[rigid sky]

How heartwarmingly horrifying

[worn beacon]

Isn't there a powersword skin with a long ass blade

[dim parrot]

u mean the red one for the deimos?

[plucky flax]

Yeah but the light attack on devil's claw is doo doo compared to illisi.

Since illisi get slaughterer.

[dim parrot]

devils in general doo doo when bigger target comes around

[plucky flax]

Yeah try playinh dc against melee scab only. Xd

(Pls dont you'll have nightmare)

[dim parrot]

I will not thx for the warning sibling

[rigid sky]

Generally you take Illisi with a single-target ranged weapon anyway though

I don't tend to hit big bois with it much

[dim parrot]

but u def can if u have the right illisi for it

[mental grail]

Illisi is cracked in general

[plucky flax]

I prefer illisi over deimos with trauma.

[rigid sky]

Feel like they both do the same thing tbh

I like being able to counter Mutants with the Deimos stab too much

[radiant frigate]

if i can make my illisi look like this i am happy

[plucky flax]

My illisi can kill muties very fast.

[dim parrot]

same

[radiant frigate]

my illisi semi-regularly onetaps them these days

disrupt destiny + 25% maniacs

[dim parrot]

I make myself sandwiches with my illisi

[rigid sky]

DD helps a lot with it true

[upper sun]

what do you have on it?

[plucky flax]

Slaughterer deflector.

[upper sun]

because mine cant very well unless i special attack

[plucky flax]

Yeah 2 hits with special.

[upper sun]

i feel like executor deflector would be better against muties

[plucky flax]

1 when it drives past.

[upper sun]

ah ok

[plucky flax]

Then a quick special light follow up.

If I have slaughterer stacks it's 1 shot head shot with special.

[upper sun]

executor is like slaughters slow brother

similar but not as good on illisi

[patent wing]

slaughterer uncanny illisi user here. i clear hordes faster than an ogryn

[upper sun]

i need another illisi frfr

[feral verge]

Unstable power would be best vs muties

[mortal granite]

God it's been awhile since I played psyker how is the class holding up?

[upper sun]

gunker is meta now

[spice veldt]

unless they changed how it worked in patch 13 and none of the playtesters also noticed it

[halcyon creek]

How long is “a while”? 2 weeks? 2 months?

[spice veldt]

testing off of a groaner (~84 damage and 1x toughness damage) with 161 toughness, it seems to be that case

[mortal granite]

Probly 2023 like nov 2023

[halcyon creek]

I don’t think a ton has changed… let me read up on the patch notes

Right, so the second half of the Traitors Curse anniversary event went live in early December

[spice veldt]

tested with bruiser and it's also seems linear and purely based on % toughness

so unless i somehow picked two enemies with unexplained properties relating to toughness/health damage, it seems purely % based

[rigid sky]

All psyker builds are good now

[patent wing]

with force swords, what do you guys do against 12 bursters coming in a row and already close, but dont explode

[rigid sky]

It's an extremely well balanced class

[patent wing]

i was light pushing one after one but none exploded

[rigid sky]

Same thing everybody else does

you fucking die

[patent wing]

until i was out of pushes

[sullen sphinx]

Still, Trauma is bad, pls buff it

[patent wing]

or at least it didnt work

[patent wing]

xd

[mental rock]

You kill the Bursters at a safe range once you push them

[rigid sky]

But yeah, pushing bursters is actually answer #2 imo

[patent wing]

not if 12 in a row are coming

[rigid sky]

Answer #1 is kill them at long range

[patent wing]

and alrady close

[rigid sky]

answer #3 is sac away from the team

[patent wing]

i dont understand how i can light push them and they dont explode

[sullen sphinx]

Well, pushing one should trigger chain reaction unless they are clumped up

[patent wing]

like 8 times in a row

[rigid sky]

They have to have already started their trigger

[patent wing]

yeah but why its not started if so close

[vestal fulcrum]

Push the first one, knock back the second one that will jump at you the moment you push the first one (staff primary fire is excellent for that), dodge-slide back

[rigid sky]

it might be that they were targeting somebody behind you

[patent wing]

will try

[vestal fulcrum]

I always fail at one of these steps

[mental rock]

Yeah just a different target most likely

[dim parrot]

[patent wing]

new bb is kinda nice, i mean its still missing 10% dmg buff but im going to try to finish auric mael with only illisi and bb

[feral verge]

I am enjoying new bb, still buggy sometimes though

[quartz barn]

I just shoot into the burster group and kill my team

[feral verge]

Josho moment

[quartz barn]

Tbf i just blast everything with trauma/void

[plucky flax]

What's the new bb?

[mental rock]

People are calling it new BB cause the talents actually work now

[vestal fulcrum]

They also worked previously, only that you needed to QQ out and in blitz again to properly make use of them

[plucky flax]

What talent did not work previously?

[mental rock]

Kinetic resonance and the cast time decrease from ep

[patent wing]

the cooldown after using it went down 40%

[plucky flax]

So they stack now? BB cast speed after shriek sub talent and ep fast charge?

[vestal fulcrum]

They stacked and worked together previously

But their effect didn’t affect the delay that proceeded a successful BR cast

Now they do

So chaining BR is much quicker/smoother now

[plucky flax]

Pog

I don't have spare points for bb talents though.

[patent wing]

btw is it only me or are force swords push attacks not that good vs ragers

ds4 handles ragers far better

[mighty cipher]

How?

[plucky flax]

Because wildfire.

[vestal fulcrum]

The push follow-up mostly allows you to just cast aside one rager bloke

[mighty cipher]

I think that might’ve been changed recently. They shove doesn’t seem to launch them as consistently.

[vestal fulcrum]

And/or basically any other elite, for that matter

[potent echo]

push attack is great vs ragers because of its range, works at 10m

if they are in your face you just thwack them

[supple sedge]

Ulgo like sparkheads. Not like playing them. Feel too weak

Want to attack horde face to shovel

[mighty cipher]

They should give the ogryns one of the staves. Just as a melee weapon.

[patent wing]

vs armored ragers its kinda fine

but if i have a naked rager in attack animation at me it wrecks me even in block push

[mighty cipher]

Woe, Purgatus M1 be upon ye.

[potent echo]

block push eats a big portion of your tiny psyker stamina, so if you get hit between the block push and the push attack you just get rekt

[mighty cipher]

laughs in 86% Block efficiency

[spice veldt]

yeah, you're still in your block state after pushing

tends to fuck you over against ragers if you don't have enough stam

[patent wing]

after push1 or push2 :D

[potent echo]

after push1 you are still in blocking state, so if you get hit

(push1) ------- rager hits ---------- (push2)

you get staggered and subsequently destroyed

basically you want to push2 as early as possible, as mentioned its range got buffed like 2 patches ago to like 10m

so if you see 3 ragers coming up
you can push down two of them
then special the 3rd

or just assail or staff or gun or whatever

[mortal granite]

I used to smite them hold them Still then deal with them

[untold niche]

i don't know ;-;
im not a 40k fan
i just thought it would be cool for vet to get a bow

[patent wing]

ii just got cornered from like 12 ragers, didnt work :S

[abstract path]

I can imagine that didn't go too well

[patent wing]

but push2 did its work yes

just to many of them

[potent echo]

i dont think ive seen a 40k bow, except for kroot maybe

[untold niche]

sad thing about ragers as psyker is melee only works if there is 1-2

im assuming force sword illisi

[potent echo]

yea if theres 12 you need to press F or use staff

[untold niche]

i think deimos would rekt ragers iirc

[potent echo]

you dont melee ragers, unless you have a melee weapon that melts and staggers them

like psword or crusher

deimos works because H2 flings everything it hits in the head lol

[spice veldt]

if it's 12 then yeah you're not fighting that in melee

even on other classes, you just use the power of GUN to handle the situation

[mortal granite]

I dont like gun psyker

Just personal pref

[hollow current]

Scriers Assail to kill half and soften the other half up for follow up face pokes.

[potent echo]

GUN / voidsurgepurgetrauma

[untold niche]

i would like zealot much more if i can just use melee the whole game
Technically crusher lets you do that but im not skilled enuf, very sad.

[potent echo]

crusher is the reason i play zealot lol

[abstract path]

I don't like the ammo usage for gun psykers, especially if you are with 2 veterans and an ogryn, or any class that has a heavy gun usage build. The need for ammo is too frustrating for me. To be fair, I use a mainly melee build in all of my classes, but with my psyker I do use my assail and sword evenly. I shoot my shards then go melee. But it is all in preference, and what helps you be most efficient

[untold niche]

i want to melee the 12 gunners as zealt you know

[potent echo]

not cope with evisc and cry when i fight ragers

[patent wing]

did u ever think about the possibility that we only eat meat that tastes mediocre because all animals that taste good might have gone extinct

[untold niche]

evisc seems to be super busted to me.

[spice veldt]

seems doable to melee 12 gunners if you're an until death crackhead or they're close enough to be staggered

[potent echo]

donate to the dodo revival project today

[untold niche]

not really, if it tastes that good people will breed them.

[abstract path]

I use a shotgun for my Zealot for snipers and stuff, otherwise I run at gunners, stagger with my evisc, and go ham. Sometimes I do have to use my gun on them but I do mostly melee

[spice veldt]

clearly the dinosaurs being extinct was an alien project to prevent humans from tasting truly good ,eat

[patent wing]

yeah but whats with the stuff that went extinct before we got gud at breeding

[untold niche]

they spread out one line, so maybe i can aggro 3 but the others are still shooting at me so its pretty sad

[rigid sky]

I feel like you've never had a good gunker in your games

[mortal granite]

Ah that's where you can I rarely use my gun to the point I forgot it's good against specials

[spice veldt]

chastise usually helps with that

[rigid sky]

1. Having a veteran is a great thing, since survivalist aura exists

2. Gunker has the best ammo economy if you use Assail too

[untold niche]

eh, i don't think it will taste that remarkbly better.
food is only good because of seasoning. have you tried plain chicken?
Even the thigh/drumstick is kinda whack