psyker-class

[rigid sky]

Yep

[onyx sentinel]

because I'm pretty sure people has joined midmatch before

[eager mantle]

My problem with lights out is that it lost its novelty the first 3 min in. I wish it was a random occurrence at random times in sections of a map and not an entire map blackout

[onyx sentinel]

right

[rigid sky]

No replacements through QP

so that means if the mission rotation cycles past the one you're on

then mission control has abandoned you to your fate

iirc on a non-maelstrom mission you can always be reinforced through QP

even once your mission has disappeared

[gloomy valve]

my melee psyker build + deimos swooood

still got obliterated by group of ragers

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-the-one-ayto-aytogifs-mtv-what-did-i-do-do-wrong-gif-9843919

[mental rock]

Trying to melee ragers when you are the one class with infinite ammo

[gloomy valve]

hahaha dats why wwe have 5 slots to try some builds

alrdy got that covered in my other 4 loadouts

[ivory path]

Does the trauma staff actually out perform the other staves, or are these guides and reddit gaslighting me?

I got a pretty well rolled one and it feels so much worse

[eager mantle]

Depends. Very good staff

Warp Nexus + Blaze

You either blow up and delete the clump that gets blasted or its set on fire constantly

[ivory path]

Oh can I not upload screenshots with my role?

[gloomy valve]

i see them as utilities

[ivory path]

was gonna send my staff stats

[lyric burrow]

you need to wait a bit

after joining

[ivory path]

lowest stat was warp resistance

[lyric burrow]

dont get image perms right away

[ivory path]

makes sense

They feel slow and a bit clunky, which would be made up for if they one shot things, but they dont

[gloomy valve]

trauma staff feels morelike a CC

[eager mantle]

Blaze Trauma is strong and provides CC

[mental rock]

Fire trauma requires very efficient play to get the most out of it

[ivory path]

Figured youd get better CC out of things like smite or purg

guess youre not dps'ing with smite

[gloomy valve]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[eager mantle]

warp nexus efficiency

[mental rock]

Rending flurry trauma you can just no brain spam it

[gloomy valve]

jesus!!... Instant kaboom

[ivory path]

I discovered the joys of gun psyker the other day

[gloomy valve]

PUT IT THERE SIBLING!

[eager mantle]

Yea pretty much nexus blaze or flurry rending

[ivory path]

I have T4 Surge and T4 Rending shockwave on mine

[mental rock]

Surge does nothing on trauma

[eager mantle]

Surge is useless

Except lmb

[ivory path]

Dont get 2 hits?

[mental rock]

Nope

[eager mantle]

Yea if you want to spam lmb

[mental rock]

Well no one plays trauma for left click surge

Lol

[eager mantle]

But it's funny

[ivory path]

Wish I could move that surge blessing to a voidstrike staff

[eager mantle]

I don't care for surge on voidstrike

[mental rock]

Yeah it sucks they don't share blessings

[gloomy valve]

wait they dont?

[ivory path]

I had been wanting to have a gun build, but neither vet or zeal are as fun as psyker

[mental rock]

Nah all staves have unique blessing pools

[eager mantle]

I like warp flurry and transfer peril

[ivory path]

and the disrupt destiny keystone is a fun mini game

[eager mantle]

Double on crit is nice but fast charge and quelling is nicer for me

[gloomy valve]

welll then glad im more of a melee guy, so im spending all my dockets on swords

[gloomy valve]

las pitol feels good for my smite build

plus i have the burn blessing on crit

[eager mantle]

Careful with some people on here. They will at the thought of "smite build"

[ivory path]

Every build Ive seen says to go with the columnus mk V because it has a high crit modifier

and the build crits all the time

[mental rock]

Yeah for gunker it's colum iag or revolver pretty much

[ivory path]

Surge staff gets wacky amounts of crits

[gloomy valve]

oh damn...i just wanna finally relive my fantasy as Palpatine hhaha

[eager mantle]

CIAG, revolver, laspistol are pretty much the gun psyker weapons atm

It's fine, some people get really heated if they see someone smite a poxwalker horde

[radiant frigate]

my recommendation is, if you intend to play with a melee focus, to take illisi instead

[ivory path]

Only time ive enjoyed smite is for packs of hounds

[mental rock]

Smite is nice for the melee only scab maelstrom

[radiant frigate]

i would also recommend the other path on disrupt destiny (your stacks will drop before you ever get to see 30)

[gloomy valve]

likewise sibling, until zealot with a flamer takes credit

[eager mantle]

Can be valuable when the director throws rager and crusher parties

[mental rock]

That's about it though

[ivory path]

thats why you carry your purg staff instead sibling. Wall of white flame goes out, nothing left alive when it disperses.

[gloomy valve]

tried it but damn that -12% dodge hurt me baaad

sorry -1.2*

[radiant frigate]

yes but in return you have better damage against anything other than crushers/maulers

[gloomy valve]

the ilisi

[mental rock]

Yeah I wouldnt use a Deimos for a melee focused playstyle

But to each their own

[gloomy valve]

lol imma smite till 100% peril hahahah
i dont mind if i didnt get the kills, just happy to see the mobs get shock spasms

[radiant frigate]

slap slaughterer and uncanny on it and enjoy

[gloomy valve]

Timmy's dad voice, "IF I HAD ONE!"

[radiant frigate]

what about t3

oh i see

unfortunately you already customized the block cost on it

this complicates things

[gloomy valve]

yea that sowrd is for my support,shield & smite loadout

[radiant frigate]

if you run kinetic deflection you may want to put stamina on instead of block cost reduction

because, for some reason, the amount of peril generated from blocking is based on how much max stamina you have (really weird mechanic)

[viscid heart]

So what is our strongest staff option atm?

[mental rock]

You will hear 4 different answers to that here

[gloomy valve]

dats some heresy math

[radiant frigate]

indeed

thanks fatshark

[mental rock]

Yeah extra stamina is very useful for KD on duelling swords because of their low base stamina

[gloomy valve]

also thx to fatshark for not letting me have fun to smite in peace for like 10seconds without having a random pox bonking me from behind

[mental rock]

Force swords it's a bit less useful

[gloomy valve]

damn, now i gotta invest in diff curios build

[mental rock]

Yeah, a single +3 Stam curio is pretty common for psykers nowadays

Although there are some that disagree

In the end it depends how much you actually block and make use of it

[gloomy valve]

hard to tell for my case being that i cant be calm with my stamina without spamming shove ahahah

[radiant frigate]

i don't run it because the occasions where you need to block more than base KD allows are rare

• i don't have a "good" 3 stam curio

i guess if i change my setup i could do it

probably drop bomber DR or something

[supple sedge]

Spark head Ulgo has gift

[radiant frigate]

and get toughness/gunner/flamer

[supple sedge]

Ulgo like spark head lots so Ulgo draw sparkhead with Ulgo

[gloomy valve]

@radiant frigate @mental rock well....Sire demands i go zealot mode

[radiant frigate]

melee isn't necessarly "zealot mode"

[mental rock]

Those "kill x with x" missions are team-wide

[radiant frigate]

are you certain of this

[mental rock]

Yep

[gloomy valve]

yea

it does help

[supple sedge]

Zealot have mode?

[gloomy valve]

just that i dont wanna psyker everyday

[radiant frigate]

yes, shouty and shouty recovery

[supple sedge]

Oohh

Thank you for explain to Ulgo

[gloomy valve]

full on unga bunga melee!

[supple sedge]

Ulgo draw picture of sparkheads

Ulgo showed it to everybody

[gloomy valve]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-pat-on-head-stitch-gif-14742401

[supple sedge]

Heehee. Ulgo like sparkheads. Always nice with Ulgo

[gloomy valve]

only 157 melee kills to go, what could go wrong

[supple sedge]

Sparkhead very dangerous. If have good Ogryn like me. Then unstoppable!

[violet plinth]

Ogryn can have my shoes after next mission.

[gloomy valve]

this is but a fool's errand only for me Ogryn buddy....

[supple sedge]

Can keep. Ulgo have boot he likes!

[gloomy valve]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-frodo-run-gif-12983861

[supple sedge]

Oh you powerful psyker. Ulgo like to see sparkhead kill many enemies without needing help

[silent coral]

Crit dmg to manic and riposte to shred right?

[ivory path]

That was the wildest death ive ever encountered

[radiant frigate]

"extra poxbursters" just shoot me right now

[mental rock]

Riposte is fine. Some like rampage or precog though

[ivory path]

https://streamable.com/9wkmlk

@supple sedge Could you have saved me from this, brute?

[supple sedge]

Yes sah

[supple sedge]

It is done sah

[ivory path]

Thank you brute, you can have some of my rations later

[radiant frigate]

Ulgo would have charge the plague ogryn

this would never have happened on Ulgo's watch

[supple sedge]

Thank you sah

[supple sedge]

Ulgo charge plague Ogryn when friend is eaten. Ulgo like charging

[stable halo]

Can I see the picture sweet brute?

[supple sedge]

Is in art place

Ulgo proud of work

[stable halo]

Beautiful Ulgo, thank you

[supple sedge]

Ulgo always here Sparkhead

[gloomy valve]

I was expecting to die and lose within 20minutes but guess my stubbornness prevails ahahha

[supple sedge]

Told you Sparkhead. You is powerful

[gloomy valve]

tqtq ogryn buddy

but ngl it was a emperor damn struggle to side dance against about 8 maulers + 8 ragers

[supple sedge]

Emperor test you. Emperor happy you pass

[gloomy valve]

thx thx....but if i had failed might as well be fed to Him

[supple sedge]

No Emperor test you again! You live to help Impirium. You die you help Emperor

Is how Ulgo was told

[gloomy valve]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-bicep-muscles-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-10817666

[supple sedge]

[wheat seal]

People on reddit would still say that this build is bad and I farm, that it's a low difficulty 🤣

[wheat seal]

playing this build from the guide

[supple sedge]

Is why Ulgo prefer not use what a meta is. Ulgo experiment!

[hollow current]

empowered psionics 🤢

but you slay with it, sibling

[wheat seal]

for me this build is realy insane

[supple sedge]

Ulgo like build like this. Makes Ulgo worry about less things

[stable halo]

EP and Assail are extremely good together

[rotund fable]

Disrupt destiny is a cool keystone in concept, but I don't use it all that much because my teammates keep killing the enemies before i can acquire any stacks.

[radiant frigate]

disrupt destiny (declare war on the blue man group)

[rigid sky]

Try to look in a different direction from your team and take the 30s duration on DD

I'm pretty sure if you have a decent number of stacks your Assails are stronger than EP assails

15s DD is actually insanity

[rugged glacier]

i love DD just for highlighting random enemies that i wouldnt otherwise see

[rigid sky]

I only use EP with BR

I think it benefits BR way more than the other blitzes

It makes it actually bearable to use lol

[spice veldt]

a nice thing about DD is that your stacks refresh on staggering/damaging an enemy

if you don't think you can kill the marked enemy, you can just smack it with something or venting shriek it for a refresh

[rigid sky]

The main problem with DD is that sometimes it refuses to trigger

[spice veldt]

yeah i just got that bug in one game which was confusing

[hollow current]

Chaining a bunch of DD target kills with scriers and mettle so you zoom across the map. oh fuck im going to warp.

[rigid sky]

But yeah, voidstrike and gun builds with DD are a fucking trip

So much fun

[hollow current]

haha yeah, Calumi did very well with it. I just never cared for it personally.

[rigid sky]

Best thing about EP is it is cheap as hell

It is under Warp Rider which you always take anyway

And there's no filler before it

[rotund fable]

Once lost an auric run because my veteran friend decided to make a game of killing the DD marked enemies before i could... guy decided to pick off the random pox-walkers i pulled out my melee for instead of worrying about the gunners.

[rigid sky]

EP buys you more points up top

[rigid sky]

It's sad that they can't see your target. On the other hand if they could they would probably target it first anyway

Brain rupture syndrome but more annoying

Tbh I just unleash THE BEEEEES and hope one of them kills my target

Or I try to shoot it if I'm spooked

Going melee on it is asking for trouble imo

[rotund fable]

It sometimes feels like they can see them... Like... once had an ogryn randomly chuck a rock at a basic shooter who got highlighted right as i was gonna go for them... dude turned around in a 180 and sniped it...

[rigid sky]

Sometimes you do just lose your stack

It's annoying but not crippling

When it is stacked you're honest-to-My-Beloved overpowered

[orchid shadow]

Place your bets! Place your bets now on how badly Hadron will brick this!

[rugged glacier]

Hit n run incoming

[rigid sky]

I'm feeling a good one today

I think toaster mum will make it good for you

Remember to run 3 times clockwise around the morningstar between each consecration

And recite the litany of begging to toaster mum to not fuck your shit up

It's just under the Litany of Stealth in the militarum hymnbook

[orchid shadow]

Huh.. Hadron didn't just send this one to the can. I've only ever really used Surge staff. So, Sustained to Surge or Flurry and Carapace to.. Maniac? Unarmoured?

[rigid sky]

(BTW the litany of stealth is a real thing)

[rigid sky]

PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH

You have a god tier nexus/surge staff in your hands

Fuck me, I called it though

I should join the admech

[orchid shadow]

Oof, my aim is so bad. Maybe it's time to start practicing with this.

[rigid sky]

Take assail with it

For moving targets

Voidstrike needs blitzes less than the other staves and guns

Assail seems to be the most reliably valuable for it

And Shriek imo

[orchid shadow]

Okay thanks. This is gonna be uncharted territory for me. =/ I think I've used Assail only once or twice.

[rigid sky]

It's an infinite ammo nerf plasma basically

[upper sun]

assail is great

[rigid sky]

Assail is very good tbh

It allows you to take Disrupt Destiny

Between your VS and Assail you should have no problem nuking the random fuckers who get tagged for death

Take the 15 stacks, 30 second duration version so you don't go mad

...

More mad

Or go any of the keystones, they all work for this build I think

But Shriek and Assail are best for VS almost unambiguously I think

I haven't heard a solid justification for anything else on them (apart from maybe Smite but seems unnecessary imo)

[upper sun]

why the hell doesnt the mouse wheel select stems

[rigid sky]

I feel like Psyker is peak design, every blitz keystone and ability has its place and so do all of the signature weapons (besides Obscurus)

Even the auras (except elite damage)

You just gotta match the right kit to the right ranged weapon

[tired estuary]

I feel like EP is functional but so boring it makes me feel tired just thinking about it

[rigid sky]

It's a tool to make brain rupture less sad

that's about it imo

[hearty oak]

I think kinetic flayer is a good talent

[rigid sky]

If I had infinite talent points Kinetic Flayer is indeed a talent I would probably take

I don't think it's ever worth budgeting in personally

if gun psyker still took brain rupture then maybe

but we don't because assail

[olive ember]

Kinetic flayer is a waste of a point… probably one of the last things I’d take tbh, even after the trait that gives +1 dodge

One BB every 15 seconds on a random target is laughable given that it isn’t used to upkeep warp charges anymore

[lethal lagoon]

EP makes brain rupture more sad

Cause if you use it on anything but a one-shotable elite, it's wasted.

[rigid sky]

So 1: It's not about the damage

and B: It makes more elites one-shottable

[lethal lagoon]

The usage becomes limited

[rigid sky]

and III: sometimes other people damage the target a bit too (e.g. if you're tagging a bulwark with it)

[lethal lagoon]

[olive ember]

Last i heard from playtesters they actually want psyker completely redesigned tbh… tree is kinda meh and mostly just all passive effects. Peril is also kinda just an afterthought with how quick you quell, and then there’s some other stuff they don’t like

[rigid sky]

well shit

there goes my beloved

[olive ember]

Warp charges are a meme, they think voidstrike and trauma are too powerful still (they think that about most good weapons Tbf)

[rigid sky]

if they turn this into another fucking sprawling Veteran mess then I'm going to take my incomparable mind and go home

All they gotta do for warp charges is trim it down a bit

put "warp charges give more damage" in the first node

[lethal lagoon]

If fatshark is set on never adding a t6, then yeah I guess lots of things are too OP

[rigid sky]

and give it 6 stacks by default

[olive ember]

If you watched the telopots vid a bit back he mentions how he wants psykers to tack direct health damage above like 70 peril or something

[rigid sky]

or make puppet master and the quelling thing less terrible

[rigid sky]

NO

FUCK THAT

DIDN'T THEY LEARN SHIT FROM PLASMA

[lethal lagoon]

I hate Selena or whatever the fuck her name is. I'd probably quit psyker if they added stuff like that.

[olive ember]

Well they think plasma is broke as shit

[rigid sky]

Well it is

[olive ember]

(It is tbh)

[lethal lagoon]

Plasma is absolutely broke as shit

[rigid sky]

but it was completely fucking worthless before

[olive ember]

Iirc they think bolter is what’s considered balanced

[rigid sky]

forced direct health damage is not something that is healthy for the game

[olive ember]

Granted you also have to remember these are the guys who true duo maelstroms and feel underwhelmed when the game spawns too little enemies

[rigid sky]

Well I guess I'll just have to play all the psyker I can for the next month or so

before those arseholes ruin it for me

It's not even OP

[spice veldt]

the solution is to add back temp hp and rename psyker to sienna

[olive ember]

I don’t think the stuff they want will be implemented to be fair

[rigid sky]

it falls apart if 3 bruisers sneak up on you

[olive ember]

A lot of the stuff they want are super grandiose

And it’s like not happening

Some ideas iirc from the video they spitballed were a soulblaze rework and complete enemy ai and spawn overhaul etc etc

Which is like not happening

[rigid sky]

Fucking MBAs being parachuted in

kicking the guts out of a company to show they "made an impact"

and then fucking off before it collapsed in their wake

[olive ember]

I think they wanted stalkers to actually set up ambushes. Gunners to be less spam and then having enemy squad leaders that are like mini bosses that order people around and toss nades etc

But again that stuff ain’t happening

I’d be very surprised atleast

[rigid sky]

So they want WH40K:ARMA

I like the totally overwhelming spam of everything we have atm

[spice veldt]

if nothing else, they can implement less grandiose versions of those changes

having ranged enemies spawn with hordes

[rigid sky]

Honestly I wouldn't change a damn thing about Darktide apart from giving us more of it

and bringing back the ambush music

[olive ember]

I shouldn’t be the one talking tbh cuz I disagree with a good amount of the stuff they say so I’m def biased. lemme just find the video and you can judge yourself

[rigid sky]

and making the veteran trees less of a fucking headache

[spice veldt]

having mixed patrols instead of the ubiquitous patrols of 20 ragers that we have

[rigid sky]

I don't think I'll watch it, it's too disheartening already lol

[spice veldt]

preset special spawns instead of the seemingly random special spawns that occasionally lead to 6 mutants at a time

[rigid sky]

I love the mutant trains though :(

[olive ember]

https://youtu.be/WwYEqCLL7fY

[upper sun]

vet tree is fine just run to survivalist and take everything in the bottom

[rigid sky]

rawrawrawrawrawr

[rigid sky]

just need 60 points

it's all so situational and cryptic

and spreadsheety

[lunar hollow]

i think part of the thing here is that hishock is "random bullshit go" because that's what kills competent players

so idk if they'll go that far

[upper sun]

its not really that bad theres a really good guide on youtube

[spice veldt]

in terms of performance, vet's tree is pretty good besides the top-right side

because you get really good nodes along your way to the bottom

[lunar hollow]

the vt2-esque patrols are fairly bad for this game though

[rigid sky]

Performance is great, yeah

[lunar hollow]

out for blood is fkin GOATED

vanguard is w/e tbh

[spice veldt]

true i like taking OfB as my sole toughness gen talent

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDFGaXQmBT0 this guide is good

[lunar hollow]

it takes 2 zealot talents to get less performance than out for blood

[upper sun]

is it the 50% on melee kill one from the top?

[spice veldt]

OfB is on vet

[lunar hollow]

3.5% toughness replenished on any kill from any source

[rigid sky]

saved thanks

[upper sun]

its a shame vet doesnt have one for the weapons

[lyric burrow]

blood redemption is the zealot one

that is 50%

[olive ember]

Oh yeah been wondering but when is @spice veldt gonna go fight the bugs in helldivers kekw

[spice veldt]

not my type of game, unfortunately

[olive ember]

Aw

alright

[stone canyon]

Nice Duellist IV in my store buy cant login Steam 🤷‍♂️

[queen fog]

ya steam servers been mad quirky these past 2 days

[stable halo]

https://streamable.com/6kk8av

I love assail

[stone canyon]

Nice, bit suprised to see you arent Scrier user with those ranged options though

[stable halo]

bubble 🙂

[stone canyon]

Its comfy, i just tend to blow myself up without vent or go for scrier crits when ranged weapon

[stable halo]

I already crit reliably.. maybe I should give it a shot though, I've been getting stuck on monstrosities and crusher walls

[stone canyon]

Got inside game just in time to see that sword, and see im missing few thousand ordo dockets buying it, and then it refreshed

[rigid sky]

SG/DD feels amazing if you're using a gun

if you can edge the peril to build stacks for a bit while you wait for that BoN's weakspot to get revealed to you

you can delete it in like a mag

[lyric burrow]

its also good with high finesse weapons

like duelling sword

[untold niche]

choose if you want surge or flurry
keep cara if you are going surge then choose if you want flak or maniac imo
Else if going flurry personally i would test the breakpoint, but if breakpoint no change, run maniac flak yeah

surge = 1 tap crusher
flurry = feel nicer to play

[tame venture]

I got a bit of an improvement over my old flame stick, but which of the perks should i consider replacing?

[lyric burrow]

unarmored to flak

[tame venture]

what about crit? iirc it's pretty good on purg

[lyric burrow]

id value flak over crit, if you had flak locked in i wouldnt be against crit chance although i think people are starting to move away from that more

i run flak on mine personally

flaniac

[tame venture]

i've been seeing a move away from maniac tbh

[lyric burrow]

maniac isnt amazing on it

but id use it over unarmored tbh

itll at least be nice for ragers mixed in

or rager hordes

[tame venture]

yeah i suppose

grinding out staves has been an ordeal

occasionally i check in my inventory and realize that the "great" staff i had is actually pretty mediocre

[lyric burrow]

yeah they can be a pain

[eager token]

it took me so long to get nexus on surge but the rest i had like no issues

[lyric burrow]

Blazing trauma was the most painful for me

I also made a blazing void which took forever but its p mid

[radiant frigate]

i have an alright blaze trauma

blaze surge void yes-yes

[hollow jolt]

Just don't be unlucky lmao

Ez fix

[radiant frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1203435711991119892/image.png?ex=65da5058&is=65c7db58&hm=8fdd0847da550aa59ef35518403706b11f2a254aad992a12775c158ee4a9d911&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=444&height=676

[hollow jolt]

Not 380 😔

Brb scrapping for dockets

[radiant frigate]

perhaps i should, i don't use it anyway

[wet belfry]

99% of gamblers stop playing before hitting big.

[gaunt seal]

Bro really gave me a 380 with a damage dump stat, I just sat there in disbelief then composed my anger, rolled again, 379 with first target dump stat lol. He sensed he was in danger

[rigid sky]

I just caused a snowball into a wipe by dodging backwards over a ledge and falling :)

stupid psyker noodlearms

comparable mind moment

[radiant frigate]

😔

[stone canyon]

40+ crafted just to get blazing spirit blessing

But then i could slap it on decent staff, only thing its missing is +5% crit perk

[hollow current]

dumdum 4 vs fire frenzy 4. +2.5% all the time sounds better than 5% some of the time, right?

[stone canyon]

Dumdum is better

There is something that makes it work better than it seems

[stone canyon]

But maybe wait on advise on someone who actually knows/remembers what that was

[tired estuary]

7 leavers in a poxburster maelstrom, love to see it

getting killed into getting raised with 5 bursters jumping you into d/c lmao

[little rapids]

4%….

Bricked!!!

[willow hazel]

Dumdum is better because it's on hit and not on kill

it's just way more consistent

[gaunt seal]

Just walked through auric damnation Hab dreyko with 3 dead bots for a good 10 minutes with this combo. Holy. Fuck.

It’s just infinite crit infinite toughness generation on hit, the bigger the crowd the better

Bloodthirsty on a mark V with mettle talent … game changing

[marble crater]

[hollow jolt]

A fun psyker melee build? Brb reporting this bug to Fatshark UwU

[gaunt seal]

Running scriers gaze with warp charges and a recon las for bosses, the uptime on crit is blazing piety x2

So folks I introduce the blazing piety Psyker

[near drift]

scriers with warp siphon, who's gonna tell em

[stone canyon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b58224e-c45d-4029-a223-58e587039b13/blazing-trauma-2

Running this and struggling at times with survivability, any talent tree changes to improve on that?

Soustealer/Warp Expenditure would help? And if so what to change for em

[glossy ember]

i'll tell them it's good

[mighty cipher]

Due to an oversight with how the cooldown works on gaze, the warp charges are consumed while the cooldown is still locked at 0, thus nullifying the cooldown reduction.

[mighty fractal]

I'd swap Wildfire to Soulstealer, personally

But that's just my call since WF is inconsistent at best

Do you know specifically what you're dying to? You might want to try Bubble if you're having trouble with big shooter packs that are spread out

[stone canyon]

Well i just added more gunner resistance in curios, but yeah ill try that change

I switched Brain Burst to Smite too to have another CC tool for tough situations

Since i dont really use Brain Burst at all as i dislike the skill

[gaunt seal]

Yeah but it’s still the best pick for the build because never using brain rupture, just letting it pop automatically every 10 seconds so no need for empowered psionics, and no need for disrupt destiny when the las gun only comes out for bosses and crushers

Still getting damage bonus and toughness generation from warp charges

I do wonder if the reduced peril generation stays up when you turn on scriers gaze though

But also getting back so many stacks of warp charges WHILE in scriers gaze that it’s giving peril reduction and damage after a few seconds even if it was at zero stacks

Peril reduction from warp stacks inherently makes scriers gaze last longer so it kind of works to extend scriers rather than instantly reduce the cooldown.. could be intended for all we know lmao

[stone canyon]

Then instead of gunner fire, id just blow myself up 💥 🤷‍♂️

[gaunt seal]

This is why I never use two weapons that can generate peril personally

Either a staff or a force sword never both

Then don’t need venting shreik

1000 hours and I’ll still swap weapons at 100 peril and block push with force sword to instantly kill myself

[stone canyon]

Well im running Duellist IV and Blazing Trauma, its just that in heat of moment i tend to go to 100%+ and Vent then saves

[gaunt seal]

Yeah I mean if you run force sword and staff anyone will blow themself up

Oh nm you said dueling sword

Was thinking mark iv blaze

[stone canyon]

I run one wound curio because im not feeling that confident always surviving, but i suppose that just makes it worse as got less toughness to begin with

And also because i kept exploding myself more before i picked Venting Shriek over Shield

[gaunt seal]

I run a wound curio even on zealot because shit happens and by shit I mean pox bursters with teammates who don’t care if you went to push them

Lately in auric damnation I see tons of people with the portrait frame from getting their first level 30 character, always have 2 wounds because they think their 50 hours is mastery, and they always die

[stone canyon]

+90% toughness regen (3x on curios) worthwhile or should i switch it to +15% toughness instead?

[wheat seal]

good staff ?

[stone canyon]

Looks solid, there was just video from Tanner in which he took stance that Flurry is better than Surge on Void

[noble grove]

i know it's a bit borked, but which perk do i swap to make it less borked for the time being?

[mighty cipher]

Roll for a different staff

[wheat seal]

Warp Flurry + Warp Nexus (Blessings) / Crit chance + Flap (Perks)

[noble grove]

still have a lot of plasteel to spend around other characters and curios, so not happening anytime soon

[mighty cipher]

Literally ANY purgstaff with 76+ burn and super high everything but damage is going to work

Mine has 18% damage

[noble grove]

lad, i literally have no plasteel for this

[mighty cipher]

Upgrade to blue and stop

If yo get Flak or Crit chance, and then Flurry or nexus, you got a good staff

[wheat seal]

Darktide time, need to farm ^^

[stone canyon]

Vulkan's advise is for perfection, i guess less than perfect will do too

[noble grove]

guessed as much, i just need advice on how to make it less sucky for the time being while i farm out everything else to be OK

[mighty cipher]

If you want a "Fuck it, this works." Crit chance is the single most important thing to have on the staff

[noble grove]

like my curios on ogryn and psyker are still 2/3 blue

[noble grove]

cheers!

[mighty cipher]

And then minor enemy buffs

[noble grove]

do i keep unyielding damage or groaners?

guessing unyielding

[mighty cipher]

Groaners

[noble grove]

huh, thanks!

[mighty cipher]

Ogryn DPS shit on purg anyways so 10% of piss isnt much

[noble grove]

i was primarily thinking against hordes of mutants/dogs with modifiers

or were muties maniac type?

[mighty fractal]

Playing Bubble ironically requires a lot more micromanagement because you have to manually vent more often

Shriek lets you play aggressively for that reason, which is nice. Though Bubble will also let you and your team anchor in otherwise-dangerous spots, which can make life a lot easier for everyone

But it sounds like you probably just need to practice a lot more with feathering your quells in between blasts, slide-dodging while charging/quelling to increase your survivability, and so on

Psyker only has so much survivability in their tree

We're great at fighting through chip damage since we have so many ways to restore toughness on demand

but our tree offers next to nothing when it comes to big bursts of single-hit damage

The only thing that'll keep you alive in those situations is good dodging and pushing habits, good positioning, etc.

[stone canyon]

Yeah its the chip damage i wanted some help with, obviously its player issue if i take crusher overhead to my forehead

[mighty fractal]

bonk bonk

Yeah I'd give Bubble a shot then, if you already haven't

even if it makes your peril scarier to manage

[stone canyon]

That wildfire to Soulstealer hopefully helps and beefing up my curios

[mighty fractal]

Yeah those changes should all help

[stone canyon]

I dodge slide a lot already so gunners mostly just issue when they stagger

[mighty fractal]

Yeah I know the feeling lol

there are certain rooms where the gunner storm just trumps everything

That's just Trauma's main weakness, unfortunately

(Fortunately, really, because it's great at everything else)

[near drift]

The basic magic missile bolts have pretty good suppression at least, in a pinch they'll work just gotta corner peek

[mighty fractal]

^

LMB bolts are actually really good

[stone canyon]

Yeah just added 20% more gunner resistance and 5% toughness, maybe should just change the last sniper to gunner too

[mighty fractal]

even if their individual hit damage is low, they fire fast, are huge, have great stagger and suppression

they'll help keep you alive against gunner nests and random spread-out shooters

[stone canyon]

Gotta spam em more, didnt take in account suppression with em

[mighty fractal]

Just gotta watch your peril, because it's easy to get carried away and shoot one too many LMBs, charge a trauma blast, and then go "oops"

[stone canyon]

Honestly i think i did bad today mainly because teams were bit weak and i had several day pause from playing this so i felt rusty too (also sleep deprivated). But always good to check if build changes could help too

[mighty fractal]

Understandable

[stone canyon]

On that note --> 😴

[mighty fractal]

My main cause of overheating is when I have too much to micromanage because someone isn't pulling their weight

or the director decides to be a cheeky bastard and throw everything at you and then some

Sleep well

[long wharf]

Oof, Darktide's daily player count

[near drift]

sleep tight pupper

[mighty fractal]

Yeah you can def feel the drop in players

prob people trying helldivers

[mighty fractal]

It's the new big cheese on the block, it's natural

[stone canyon]

plenty of em if you check serverlist

[mighty fractal]

Give it a few weeks to a month and things will likely start to stabilize

Especially if DT gets an update

[near drift]

Currently playing too much infinite wealth rn

[quick wagon]

Surge staff + smite
Viable?

Opening armor with staff, smite for packs of maniacs.
Don't know how to deal with specials though. left mouse atack on staff is too weak to take care of them consistently, which is why I've been considering Assail + surge staff.
Or Smite + void staff

Smite is probably too situational. But when it comes to shine - oh boy! Impressive

Would like to hear from someone with more experience

[mighty fractal]

Most gamers, like most consumers, are very fickle. They'll freak the fuck out if their favorite game dips in playercount (a natural cycle between major updates), then descend into game tribalism that content creators and companies exploit to farm outrage

etc

it just happens at a very fast pace now

as if two good games can't exist at the same time

[orchid shadow]

Surge / Smite is perfectly viable. If specialist in a mixed horde needs to die, then charge Surge RMB and jump before you release so it targets over the horde. LMB has it uses for advancing down hallways with long sight lines, or hitting snipers. Also it's faster than charging RMB again if all a target needs is a single tap.

[mighty fractal]

Hey, you could always be

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/132808082458673152/1207807676235645038/GGZMFLNbQAIQ-kh.png?ex=65e0fd8d&is=65ce888d&hm=d7e65c3a312a2cf1295f2fbe33ef290ffdc4ecbb79ed484c67586abb95bda303&

[stable halo]

This is why I carry the magic spell known as big ass revolver

[mighty fractal]

Cast: Transmute Lead to Death

[stable halo]

"I cast HIGH NOON"

[marble crater]

I collected 2.4m dockets and 30k plasteel, do we think that's enough for a god roll blaze trauma?

[mighty fractal]

Possibly.

[pine relic]

I love smite psykers

[mighty fractal]

Today in "what the hell is this game doing"

[wet belfry]

No

[quick wagon]

What do you pair Smite with?

[wet belfry]

Buy some candles, incense and make a ritual shrine. Pray to the omnisiah for his blessing in high gothic.

That should be enough to get you a god-roll at hadron.

[pine relic]

Don't know, I'm the zealot

[cosmic sigil]

i pair smite with revolver

[wheat seal]

I need an opinion on one build guys

I play this with voidstrike, and I found it rather weak

[stable halo]

how do you get the build to fit in one screencap /noob

[willow hazel]

take a screenshot on https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

instead of in game

[marble crater]

Close enough?

[willow hazel]

swapping to Vent would make it feel better

[wet belfry]

Viable

[near drift]

demented nexus surge voidstrike where you never press the ability button ever

[willow hazel]

probably worth running True Aim

[harsh urchin]

Yep lol

Definitely don't want to skip that

[idle nimbus]

Maybe a dumb question, but does the Warp Battery penance require you have the Warp Battery talent? As in does having maximum warp charges require you to have the maximum capacity for them in the first place

[harsh urchin]

afaik it used to be the case that you needed 6 charges; but I think they might have fixed that recently

so you should be able to do it with 4 post-fix

[idle nimbus]

Thanks

[hexed geyser]

There's no one doing the twins anymore, i'm just getting bots lol

[idle nimbus]

I hate this penance

[torpid girder]

replace flurry with nexus and crit damage with crit chance and this is literally perfect

[plucky flax]

I found plasma gun in helldivers.

It's called railgun.

[marble crater]

That's what I did, thank you. I consider trauma staff crafting complete now

[limber silo]

Everyone is tired of them, so now I can't find a team to try hardmode and get my funny banner

[eager mantle]

Twins are a fun fight. Cool ost too. I like it. But also the problem with the twins is that..."I am doing twins."

The game is set up with random missions to run to mix up a lil bit from mission to mission. Specifically going to do twins is...eh. it's fun and I like it but there's no rotation to it besides me going out of the way to do it

[wind spruce]

Flak is more important

[mighty cipher]

On an imperfect staff it’s debateable.

[harsh urchin]

not really lol

for the non-targeting weapons like flamer, purg, surge; flak is just too strong

due to how many enemies are treated as flak

[upper sun]

battle meditation is reaaly mid mind in motion and wilfire are far better options imo

[mighty cipher]

Wildfire sucks hard on anything that isn’t the Purgatus staff and mind in motion is quality of life at best.

[urban sandal]

or blaze trauma

[mighty cipher]

Eh, on BT you’ve simply got better options.

[upper sun]

a chance to quell does more harm than good if you're running nexus or warp rider itll just randomly lower your possible damage

[mighty cipher]

But consider that you’re getting an extra warp attack when it does activate.

[upper sun]

but do you run it?

[mighty cipher]

Illisi spam and Purgatus can go almost infinite with it.

Yeah

[upper sun]

i dunno id much rather manage peril myself

[urban sandal]

I wouldn't palm it off as useless when your build is all about soul blaze

[upper sun]

i just think there are far better options

[near drift]

Battle meditation is for the problem gamblers who aren't shafted enough by hadron and want rng in the mission

[mighty cipher]

It’s got some use, I’d Definitely take it since I’m a sucker for wildfire. But I won’t act like it’s not a for fun pick.

[near drift]

coincidentally I run it somewhat often

[mighty cipher]

BM also causes the 5% toughness per 10% quelled effect.

[tame venture]

I swear, rank 4 staff blessings don't exist

[marble crater]

I feel you, does Rending Shockwave at 4 exist? Because I don't think it does

[hollow jolt]

should have prayed to Tzeentch more 💅

[mighty fractal]

Even on Blaze Trauma, I wouldn’t consider Wildfire a must-pick if you’re strapped for talent points

At best, it potentially lets you stack more damage quicker on periphery targets (since burn scales logarithmically with each stack)

But it’s very difficult to actually quantify its usefulness outside of fluffed scoreboard numbers

Like sure, if you turn on enemy health bars, you’ll see WF spread to quite a few targets outside of your Trauma range

But are those extra ticks of fire damage reducing your time-to-kill on those targets?

[hollow jolt]

Clearly you just need 3 other blaze traumas

[mighty fractal]

If a bruiser gets lit on fire, does that reduce the number of hits you need to kill him from 3 to 2, or 2 to 1?

[hollow current]

servers shitting themselves these last few days?

[mighty fractal]

That’s really what matters in the end.

[hollow current]

yesterday eh. today worse

[hollow jolt]

That way you ensure efficient warpblaze spread

[mighty fractal]

Matchmaking seems really borked

[urban sandal]

yes

[hollow jolt]

I've just been doing quickplay damnations

[mighty fractal]

I keep getting games that don’t ever fill

[hollow jolt]

I get matches in seconds that stay full

[fading wedge]

sharing server space with helldivers 2

[hollow jolt]

But they're dogshit players

So it evens out

[hollow current]

I get games but either people are rage quitting or they're getting dropped in the middle. Now I'm getting dropped in the middle

[mighty fractal]

This morning, an Ogryn joined my HISTG Terminus assassination and we essentially duo’d the entire map because nobody ever joined

[hollow jolt]

I too hate the subway assassination map on Auric

"Oops all specialists" during the boss fight

[marble crater]

Probably not, but my Beloved said more blue flames are better

[mighty fractal]

This is true

[feral knoll]

Hey all. Do you have any advice on how to build a little around the Surge staff? I use smite with it, and have empowered psionics. I like using it to pick off specialists and elite.

Because sometimes it feel it’s damage is dookie

[flint aspen]

how many bots died that run?

[little rapids]

no way to fix that

😔

maybe you could take warp charges instead

but if u want ep its a sacrifice youll have to do

in fact warp charges would also help greatly with surge's peril generation

i feel like its a good pick

[hollow current]

over 1000 files in the scoreboard history folder. no wonder it froze for 5 seconds before loading in.

moving them away helped it lol

[flint aspen]

am I the only one who doesn't vibe with the surge sfx as much

like I know its supposed to be lightning but I can't tell half the time if its sfx is glitching out or not

[little rapids]

sometimes trauma sfx turns off for me

[eager mantle]

2s into the room and there's a bomber, 2 snipers, a trapper, almost always a shotgun squad appearing 10-20s into the boss entering, mid rager squad. Just add monstrous specialists too

Oh and some poxbursters

[eager mantle]

Probably more due to the vfx being kinda wonky, so the sfx stands out

[deft nymph]

trauma

[hexed geyser]

Worth buying?

[vernal blaze]

is this auric quickplay teammate cooking

[lyric burrow]

no

at least he has uncanny

[hollow current]

dont think so. I think flak and unyielding are mandatory perks and dum dum a mandatory blessing. not so sure on the second blessing but I think either fire frenzy or deathspitter are okay

But I mainly use and prefer laspistol so idk

[sharp flint]

Scrier build with brain burst is so much better

Crushers don't stand a chance.

[limber silo]

your gun is good. CIAG is good as a grey so don't worry too much

[long wharf]

not true

it's better than other guns at gray, but it's the Dum Dum blessing that makes it truly stupid

[fair spruce]

SMOLS USIN INFINTRY POPGUNS IS DUM DUMS ALREDDY

HAWH WAHAWHAHAW

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/you-went-full-gif-14839177

[fair spruce]

GOT ME BONE EAD IN, SOS IM ALF RETADED NOW

KEN MAYK FUNNY JOAKS

[limber silo]

Dum Dum is great, but not necessary to have a op weapon in auric maelstrom. Just having a CIAG is enough in most cases

[silent socket]

LADS

THIS WAS IN THE SHOP

IS IT WORTH IT

[hollow current]

better than rolling at brunts.

I don't know how perks go on voidstrike though so good luck

[silent socket]

ILL GET TO THAT BRIDGE WHEN I CROSS IT

[rigid sky]

Hell yes

[silent socket]

Now the question.. .whats replaced with what. . .

[radiant frigate]

cursed

[silent socket]

Look its scuffed but I make do with what I get, what do I tear off

[hollow current]

crit to flak and terrifying barrage to surge

[sullen sphinx]

Instead of Surge maybe Warp Flurry will be better

[austere crest]

Hey photo credit, cmon Cousin!

[wheat seal]

Which one is better for you ? About perks and blessins

[wind spruce]

First one, but change maniacs to flak

[wind spruce]

It would definitely be better.

[wheat seal]

I took maniacs because in the guide it was that first for perks ^^

[rigid sky]

You can make that into a spammy transfer/flurry staff

[untold niche]

i don't enjoy hd2 so
:v

[rigid sky]

It's like the B-option for voidstrike staffs but it's really fun and brainless to use

(brainless in a good way)

it'll be really hard to take damage while you're using it

because of all the psyker talents that generate toughness by peril flux

[wind spruce]

I could be wrong, but I don't think pygex was listing them out in order of preference

Regardless flak is always the top priority

People will say yOu alrEaDy oNe shOt flAk but those people are dumb

[rigid sky]

I mean it does depend right?

If carapace and maniac get you better breakpoints

flak doesn't have to be on everything

[wind spruce]

Flak gives you the best breakpoints and 25% for soulblaze on the most targets

[rigid sky]

Your voidstrike doesn't exist entirely in isolation, floating through the map with no other blitzes or weapons attached to it

if your melee has flak you can get the extra soulblaze off that

[wind spruce]

Flak is even more important if you take into account assail switching

[wind spruce]

Or you can have both. You aren't going to be like "ok sick I've lit a bunch of flak on fire let's switch to my melee and jerk off with it while they burn to death 25% faster"

[rigid sky]

depends on the melee weapon and the circumstance

Tbf I'm not saying "don't pick flak"

and I'm not talking with knowledge specifically with the voidstrike's breakpoints

I'm just saying you can get weapons that need other shit to function better than they would with flak

maybe voidstrike isn't one of them

[wind spruce]

The question I'm interested in in this situation is what perk is best for voidstrike

The answer is flak

[mighty fractal]

Then you also put Rending on your melee and the fire burns the flak even faster 🙂

[river dawn]

happy psyker noises

Purg staff with BB used to be my #1 favorite build, and i love that its still working well/better after all the tree changes and stuff

Soo much fun to burn heretics

[silent socket]

I love my “burn everything in unholy fire” build for Psyker…. Purgatos staff could admittedly use an improvement…

[untold niche]

i really hate it when the ogryn doesn't know he can tank melee hits on revive...

on a5histg ajnd he uses his kb all the time, to kill ONE bruiser.

[rich jolt]

I mean I wouldn't be upset about a purg buff but what about it needs buffed?

Feels pretty solid and good to use

[silent socket]

No I mean my staff needs better perks lmao

Like the staffs perks and shit is shite lmao

[mighty fractal]

Purg is in a weird spot because it's already great at what it's meant to do (mass deletion of unarmored targets in close range)

The problem is that both Trauma and Voidstrike are also great at killing hordes

[silent socket]

And with the right perks “horde repellent”

[mighty fractal]

while also offering range and anti-armor damage that the Purgatus lacks

[silent socket]

*Horde repellent^2

[rich jolt]

Oh dismdkxoaka

[mighty fractal]

Or in the Trauma's case, Trauma's crowd control is superior

[rich jolt]

Yeah purg blessings are a pain in the ass because theres only two good ones

And the rest are ass

[silent socket]

“Suppression on close range kill perks” lol

[rich jolt]

My suppression is the enemy being ON FIRE

[silent socket]

Which I’m now beginning to realize has saved me more times then I can count from ragers-

[mighty fractal]

Trauma and Void are better at killing mixed hordes as well

[spice veldt]

ragers don't get suppressed

[mighty fractal]

Armored Elites + regular chaff

[spice veldt]

the only melee enemy getting suppressed are groaneres

[silent socket]

I had found a way to defy that then-

[mighty fractal]

Oh, even better

Terrifying Barrage suppresses enemies around YOU

not around the flame. So you can't even keep crowds of groaners on lockdown while at range

[silent socket]

I am certain I’ve witnessed ragers cower in fear

[mighty fractal]

They can get staggered/stumbled

That might be what you're remembering

[silent socket]

Let me have this-

[mighty fractal]

[silent socket]

Also unrelated discovered the auto pistol is hella good at knocking ragers on there asses lmao

Anyways it’s 7am here and I want to sleep soooo…

Gnight-

[rigid sky]

Siblings, a question

with the voidstrike am I better off with a deimos or an illisi?

Pre-13 I think Deimos was better but I was finding that I one-shot mutants with my VS alone sometimes

which kinda takes the luster off of Deimos

[hollow current]

I'd say Deimos if you have surge and the true aim node.

[rigid sky]

I do, but doesn't it just overlap the same job that my VS is doing?

I did get a decent bit of use out of it though this last game

but I felt a few times I was getting overpressured a bit by regular hordey bois

(until I figured out that the H1 L2 combo's actually not bad at clearing trash

)

[hollow current]

When I used Void I felt like it was a good at obliterating everything but carapace, tho still pretty good at carapace too. I think Deimos maybe gives better boss utility and its special while not used often can be used on carapace to stun them if they're isolated enough.

I was also never a fan of the illisi even if I do recognize it being a stupid good.

[rigid sky]

Which version of void do you use?

I've got a nexus/surge one which is pretty damn good at carapace too

I think next game I'll try the Illisi

main way my Deimos was helping me is just that I have deflector on it

and I don't on my illisi

not sure if maybe a devil's claw would be better for defensive action vs ragers

but I don't have one

[hollow current]

I thought I had carapace on mine but I guess not. I never did try rolling a bunch though. Before 13 I was a trauma user.

warp flurry maybe helps me deal with hordes a lil better which might explain the difference. Even if I don't have nexus, the true aim node gives me crits often enough I felt.

[eager mantle]

For void I like flurry and transfer peril. Not the hardest hitting but minimizes pauses between barrages

[rigid sky]

I'm using Assail for spread out trash more, I want my voidstrike to more reliably murder in fewer hits

Mine's crit/maniacs

because dreg ragers are my nightmare

seems you see them a lot more than scab ragers

or they're more dangerous or something idk

[hollow current]

spread out trash and shooters, yeah I don't think anything beats assail.

[supple sedge]

Ulgo saw psyker use power without stopping. Big horde dead before Ulgo could smash them. Normaly sparkhead make heretic dance with purple light sticks. But that psyker did not need Ulgo

Was funny

[little rapids]

thoughts?

melk has this compared to mine

[vestal fulcrum]

Not too big an upgrade

[little rapids]

but still an upgrade? 🤔

[supple sedge]

If better then is safer to get yes? Less chance to lose upgrade

[vestal fulcrum]

Hard to tell by modifier numbers alone

I wouldn’t buy it, if that’s what you’re asking

[supple sedge]

Ulgo Ogryn so not best oponion

[hollow current]

Maybe if you have a lot of currency to spare and love the illisi? change maniac to flak to replicate the one you have and then upgrade slaughter or change it depending how you want to go. 🤷‍♂️

[little rapids]

ye illisi is a favorite for me

[hollow current]

I'd say it's a light upgrade but not one I'd be terribly excited over. still a step up I suppose tho

[tired estuary]

You really want both finesse and first target high on fs unfortunately

[mighty cipher]

I'd actually say its a downgrade

[little rapids]

why first target

[mighty cipher]

Depending on what you currently use your Illisi for its either a significant upgrade or a significant downgrade

[little rapids]

i use it for lots of enemies right in front of me

commons mostly

[mighty cipher]

Either way though its 90% not worth it

[little rapids]

with my VS

[mighty cipher]

I wouldn't spend the marks on it. Dockets 100% but not marks.

[cosmic sigil]

Afaik first target is not used for the special dmg

[hexed geyser]

It cant be real

[little rapids]

nice

[rigid sky]

Melk bringing the t2 perks and blessings today, ew

[little rapids]

xd

[long wharf]

First target is extra damage to the first enemy you hit each swing

[stone canyon]

I wish class uniques would get prioritised in shop rotation

Tired of seeing Tactical Axes and Recon Lasers non-stop at 370+ rolled while the items i really want seem way more rare as only available on one class

If item is available on 3 classes, should only have ½ chance appearing then compared to say Staffs on Psyker

[upper sun]

I actually have had nightmares about being forced to use axes

[stone canyon]

I did my weekly melee with Rashad Axe Gunker and it went so well i switched my Zealot using it too 🤷‍♂️

Hordes just disappeared as you oneshotted everything and 4 similar then died with one swing nearby

[ionic sorrel]

What gun do you use?

[rigid sky]

General gunker question or just for that guy?

Imo gold standard for gunker is CIAG.

[digital narwhal]

Columnus IAG is the best Gun Psyker gun.

[rigid sky]

There you go, Grond hath proclaimed.

[ionic sorrel]

Awesome. What blessings do you slap on that? I assume dum dum.

[digital narwhal]

DumDum + Fire Frenzy

Those two Blessings also apply to Assail darts if you throw them and then switch to your IAG

As long as the IAG is out, all your damage sources benefit from the Blessings

[ionic sorrel]

Thanks friend.

[digital narwhal]

Same for Uncanny Strike on DSwords and Combat Knives

Rending Assail is nuts

[wet belfry]

The reason colomnus is so damn good on gun psyker is the crit strings.

[rigid sky]

Just remember

[wet belfry]

Colomnus crits multiple times after landing a crit.

[rigid sky]

If the voices in your head tell you to throw one more dart during SG

Do it because the voices are you friend :)

[wet belfry]

And psyker is really good at increaseing crit damage with things like disrupt destiny or gaining toughness from crits through mettle.

[digital narwhal]

Man, I love getting a 4 shot long crit string and regening 20% Toughness with Mettle from 1 crit proc

[rigid sky]

The damage potential of Gunker is really absolutely nuts and I pity the fool who disregards it as being not flavourful enough

It has so much flavour

Enough flavour to explode your head

[eager mantle]

Except your gun choice. Or say best gun choices

[digital narwhal]

I love it when people say "Gun Psyker sucks" or "Gun Psyker steals all the ammo" because neither is true

lmao

[rigid sky]

Yeah, like 80% of the time I'm chilling with assails

[stone canyon]

Yeah im boring, columnusV

[eager mantle]

Had a game where a plasma vet went like "stupid gunker, wasting all the ammo", we're like 75% into the mission, I hadn't picked up any ammo tins besides a few tins when everyone was still white.

[dawn spoke]

people don't like playing with gunkers for some reason so they'll just think up some kind of reason

[digital narwhal]

It's due to Pre-13 Shredder Psykers

[rigid sky]

Bet he wasn't even running the ammo aura

[digital narwhal]

They were absolute ammo hogs since we didn't have Assail back then

[rigid sky]

Yeah, gunker now has nothing at all to do with old gunker

[eager mantle]

He was. I was basically sustained off his aura

[digital narwhal]

But people still hold onto the stigma

[eager mantle]

But he complained about my ammo

[digital narwhal]

People don't like letting go of hate

[rigid sky]

It uses to just be Kinetic flayer fishing and warp charges

I.e. a janky veteran

Now it's a fully fledged awesome playstyle

[eager mantle]

Its right now purgatus or gunker atm for me

[rigid sky]

I am starting to feel like purgatus is the weakest archetype for psyker

[dawn spoke]

my two faves too

[rigid sky]

Used to be my favourite though

Void and Trauma are love

[eager mantle]

It's the least dynamic. You set things on fire. They die to the fire or you just do DOTs and then someone else kills

[stone canyon]

Blazing Trauma is like bombing napalm in comparison

[eager mantle]

It is funny though spewing fire down a hall and sometimes because of enemy density like +6 maulers die at once

[rigid sky]

With a faulty trigger mechanism

Dud... dud... dud... FIERY DEATH!... dud...

[stone canyon]

Well, the duds blow Crushers into two split parts, so they aint that bad either

[rigid sky]

Yeah, blazing trauma is still trauma etc

But FIERY DEATH feels better

I just want them to suffer before they meet their inevitable death

(Also it matters more for horde control)

[patent wing]

i recently played some other classes
and i have to say, their melee weapons suck
imagine not having a deimos/ds/illisi

[rigid sky]

We pay the price for it with our frailty

[upper sun]

hammers and heavy chainswords are cool too

once you use a charged hammer on a boss or enemy heavy youll forget what a duelling sword even is

[rigid sky]

Also the IIIb clobb is an absolute joy

[upper sun]

cmon look at this

[mighty cipher]

You dont even need any bonuses for this shit

This is literally something ANY good Thander can do

[upper sun]

yeah now show me a psyker weapon thats as good on bosses

[mighty cipher]

Brain Rupture

[upper sun]

i meant a melee weapon but even then its still not as good

[long wharf]

the only bosskill psyker has is Columnus

[hollow current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1204841511347421294/nothing_personnel.nothing_personnel.nothing_personnel.mp4?ex=65df6d99&is=65ccf899&hm=db2fbd244f2226f8613bbbeb3101f8526d479a6a9c76f37b0aafc0b0d74e7dad& columnus is silly

[mighty cipher]

Oh, "As good". Nothing in the game even comes close.

[hollow current]

las pistol ain't bad either tho.

[mighty cipher]

So much DPS your game is dropping frames lmao

[radiant frigate]

so how does thrust work exactly, it says up to +20% power but i can only imagine it is 3 stacks of 20% each

[long wharf]

+20% power per stack

[hollow current]

ye, it stacks 3 times.

[radiant frigate]

thank you, blessing descriptions, for being completely useless once again

[upper sun]

idk i got lucky and rolled this on my first hammer i dont even play zealot

[long wharf]

typical FartShack

[radiant frigate]

and here i was wondering why i felt like thammer was trash

i didn't have the thing that increases my damage by 60%

silly me

[long wharf]

yep

[radiant frigate]

god i hate how asinine blessings are

just make weapons work

[long wharf]

THammer is highest single target single attack damage in the game

[hollow current]

Thrust, Unyielding, Headtaker or Slaughter.

giga damage

[mighty cipher]

"What Daemon host? Oh, I thought that was a rager."

[rotund fable]

Well then... thankyou for the tier 4 blazing spirit hadron...

[hollow current]

Isn't there 11 or so blessings for force swords?

It's rough out there.

[ornate hamlet]

This gun is capable of two shotting a reaper with scriers gaze o.o'

Well, three shots, but that's still good!

[upper sun]

at least swords have less garbage blessings

[mighty cipher]

10% Elite and 25% unyielding would 2 shot

[ornate hamlet]

Would it though?

And is it as versatile?

[upper sun]

elites applies on many things same for unyielding

[mighty cipher]

Unyielding is all of the ogryns and bosses

Elites is literally just better than critical damge due to dogshit calculation

Oh, and you dont even have any DD stacks, it would definetly two shot with them

[upper sun]

ogryns also benefit from elites

[ornate hamlet]

Sigh. Yep. I wish ranged weakspot crit dmg was more viable....

Can now 3shot without using SG.... ugh

[willow hazel]

Assail psyker build

[hollow current]

venting shriek and flames for horde clear?

[fallen yacht]

People sleep on the ironhelm hammer, its just different from the cruicis. You got the only blessing that matters (thrust) along with a really good secondary blessing. Up to you on your perks if you want Flak + Unyielding or Unyielding + Elite

[willow hazel]

vent + assail is plenty of horde clear

[grizzled wedge]

Whats your opinion on swapping Perilous Combustion with Empathic Evasion and then trading Uncanny Strike for Precognition?

[hollow current]

uncanny so good tho. is the other blessing locked?

[willow hazel]

I think Uncanny is the most important blessing because it affects Assail, but Precog as a 2nd blessing is really strong (it also buffs assail)

[grizzled wedge]

Yeah, it is, I just figured I'd throw a conversation piece lol

Nvm king

I understand

[willow hazel]

EE is an option. Quietude and Maelific are probably the two worst talents

[waxen anvil]

knowing assail gets effected, its sounds real nice

[willow hazel]

so I would swap those

[upper sun]

Yeah i changed them to unyielding and elite I got lucky with it being my first hammer as for a primary weapon idk what to even look for on zealot

[ornate hamlet]

how close is this so being decent

[upper sun]

not close

[hollow current]

yeah it's fukt.

[ornate hamlet]

damn

[willow hazel]

Superiority isn't bad

if you roll a decent 2nd blessing it not bricked

[hollow current]

If you get lucky on the 4th blessing it can be usable but, good luck

[ornate hamlet]

i got the other blessings for it

[upper sun]

yeah but you really need to change the perks dont rely on changing the second perk

[ornate hamlet]

i change the crit damage right?

[hollow current]

both perks are the worst thing you can get im p sure lol

It's % of the difference of reg damage vs crit damage and not % damage as a whole which im almost positive turns out to never be worth it vs a global damage buff like flak or maniac

[upper sun]

swords are still easier to build imo than staves

like deflector unstable shred precog superiority theyre all more usable than stuff like terrifying or hit and run

[willow hazel]

it depends on the staff, surge and puragtus are super cheap to craft

[radiant frigate]

saw a 3 stam curio in the shop, was green

figured i would see where it goes

to hell

to hell is where it went

[upper sun]

@radiant frigate wanna start a support group?

[radiant frigate]

nah

[upper sun]

the only functional stam 3 i got was from the store and it came with a t4 perk

[marble crater]

I run extra dockets on all curios on all characters, need that extra gambling

[hollow current]

i did the same till I hit the cap.

Now I just spend a couple mil when I get close and have something more useful in its place like gunner res

[radiant frigate]

i do also have a "3" stam that rolled toughness

[upper sun]

better than random stuff

[radiant frigate]

quotation marks because it is an elaborate scam

[upper sun]

ohh

[radiant frigate]

it claims to be 3

[upper sun]

oops

yeah

[radiant frigate]

it is 3 in psykhanium

it is 2 in a mission

very epic

i have 5k melkbucks, do i just throw them at random curios

and see if anything sticks

[compact bluff]

even if it displays '2' in missions it can be 3 in actuality its very weird

[radiant frigate]

what the fuck

[upper sun]

nah camp the store harder

[radiant frigate]

fatshark please

i'm throwing 5k melkbucks at random curios

will let you know about the results

[upper sun]

ha please do

maybe a little prayer before

[radiant frigate]

it is done

[compact bluff]

i think some 75 rating stam curios are fake, and some are real, i wouldnt know for certain

[radiant frigate]

now to check what i got

[compact bluff]

you can test it with pushes in psykhanium vs mission though, the % cost should still be the same and if it is then you do have +3 stam

[radiant frigate]

oh?

chat is this real?

[compact bluff]

76 stam curios are tha real deal

[radiant frigate]

to hadron

[orchid shadow]

One more potential brick in Hadron's wall

[upper sun]

JAMIE JAMIE IS THIS REAL?! GOOGLE IT

[radiant frigate]

CHAT

IT IS REAL

20% GUNNER RES

[upper sun]

holy shit

[orchid shadow]

• jealous psyker noises *

[upper sun]

Lets all take a knee our sibling has made it...

[radiant frigate]

[fallen yacht]

I might be dumb, but how good is 3 stam curio?

[upper sun]

more mobility more push spam its really nice

also by default we have goot regen but -200 stamina

[ionic sorrel]

More time blocking when picking someone up.

[upper sun]

also helpful if you run deflector you can pretty much run up to gunners

[prime elk]

i always run 1

gives a lot of flexibility

[quick wagon]

You've won the Emperor's Raffle!

[radiant frigate]

yes, now i only need to find a definitive conclusion on what to put on the rest

the current idea is bomber/flamer res

[hollow current]

god tier curio with kinetic deflection

[woven nest]

whats good on curio? should i just go toughness, toughness regen and dmg resistance on all 3 or should i mix everything?

[hollow current]

I go 3x sniper, 2 gunner, 2 mutant and 2 stam efficiency.

I think for resistances, you get diminshing returns so 2 for anything is probably good enough, 3 and you don't get nearly as much as an improvement compared to the second and especially the first

[woven nest]

is stam efficiency worth if i barely use melee?

[hollow current]

You can make that whatever you want. I rush into the front a lot so it's nice for me.

[upper sun]

there were a couple of scenarios where i got pushed away from the team having the extra stamina to run and blockpush prolly saved my hide

[fallen yacht]

I like running 1 wound (especially with silent bursters right now) then i use 2 +hp since thats all i have available atm

[mighty fractal]

Bomber res actually isn't the worst thing for Psyker since the class gets so little damage reduction

getting knicked by the invisible edge of a flame puddle while dodging out of it is usually where I take a chunk of damage as psyker

[hollow jolt]

Psykers are funny

Just 1 hit from anything and boom toughness 90% gone

[dim parrot]

not funny didn't laugh

[upper sun]

yeah no stamina no toughness no movement speed :(((((

[dim parrot]

magic tho!

[upper sun]

i feel like devs keep nerfing base stats because we have stuff that doesnt need ammo