#psyker-class

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fair spruce
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biggest thing I've noticed happens more often than not, is your left attack will reset and rebranch if the target you hit very first somehow moves further away than the next closest enemy to you

hollow jolt
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Just pray you don't get the aggro of a chaos spawn UwU

fair spruce
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but, if you have that first target good and close to where he won't get swapped off

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and you stay close renough on him you don't reset it yourself

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you can then waft across the packs of enemies and tell the smite where to branch twoards

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and essentially hit a group like a charge attack

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you just need a target safely in front

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you can also clickspam left attack on smite

hollow jolt
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Ah yeah smite tracking is a bit messy but yeah it seems distance really messes with how it spreads

fair spruce
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and as you say insta stun insta push everything up to maybe ragers

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just click click click 2 to 4 smols on their ass a couple times a second

hollow jolt
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Nothing like mutants though

fair spruce
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you sure feel it with crushers phew

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oh man nobody fuckin TOLD ME about mutants

hollow jolt
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Lol

fair spruce
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until I totally flubbed the dodge on one

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and just panic screamed and lashed out with my smite

hollow jolt
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The funny like 4 second duration requirement to stagger

fair spruce
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like the cartoon characters holding their hands over their eyes

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and lifting em cuz they're not dead

hollow jolt
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Yeah thankfully you can still dodge c:

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Deimos got your back though

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Love me Deimos

noble grove
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Do force swords share blessings?

rigid sky
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They are Blaze Force Swords so they count as being the same

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Despite Illisi clearly being a totally different weapon.

noble grove
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Cheers mate!

noble grove
upper sun
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i would say obscurus is the different sword because its utter crap

rigid sky
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Just a lot worse

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And it's not even crap, it's just a lot worse at everything than a Deimos

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It was arguably our best melee, it got buffed and yet at the exact same moment got power crept into the dumpster

wheat seal
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Best build ever

hearty oak
vernal blaze
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I never really vibed with deimos sword for some reason

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maybe its just the awkward stab leading into the hordeclear combo

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though then again the last time I used it was probably 75+ hours and several months ago

dim parrot
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Illisi my beloved

hollow current
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deimos had okay horde clear for me before patch 13. it was good enough while excelling at single target stuff.

willow hazel
wheat seal
wheat seal
spiral minnow
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fkin frenzied killer.. got it from 87 to 88, couldnt kill 2 more... just couldnt...

willow hazel
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the 3rd guy carried something for 134.6m, you carried ssomething for 53.1m

mighty cipher
spiral minnow
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even waited at the end of metalfab... not many enemies spawned...( teammates helped by blocking and just pushing and yet not enough enemies... auric damnation with high intensity... what to do more xD

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any tips n tricks?

mighty cipher
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Maelstrom

wheat seal
# wheat seal Best build ever

I made a post about this score, I was just happy to share it because it's pretty huge for me to exceed 1M, and in all the comments people are toxic, people complain that there aren't enough people on the game, but when you try to share things you like or enjoyed doing in the game you get torched for nothing, pretty strange.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1aqtta1/assail_psyker_is_just_too_strong/

Reddit

Explore this post and more from the DarkTide community

spiral minnow
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thats reddit, but i would change the title

silent coral
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we're off to a good start here

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what better though shred or rampage for second blessing?

wheat seal
silent coral
limber silo
upper sun
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ok this is my 16th/17th deimos brick fr im gonna cry

mighty cipher
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Do these people realize that ”134.6m” isn’t minutes?

wheat seal
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what I find very amusing is that people are out there saying "yes, you play in low difficulty" without even knowing what you're playing in

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so I have to take a screen of the difficulty for these morons on reddit

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like wtf ahah

upper sun
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does t4 even have enough enemies for that much damage?

harsh urchin
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lol

wheat seal
mighty cipher
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That veteran isn’t allowed within 100 yards of a school zone

wheat seal
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as you can see, it's only my veteran on Heresy ^^

upper sun
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dont bother with reddit the amount of smug fart smelling posters there is actually disgusting

wheat seal
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I'm better on discord than reddit lol

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Never had negativity here

mighty cipher
willow hazel
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I figure most players would turn that metric off either way

mighty cipher
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It takes ONE game to realize that that’s not what it stands for.

upper sun
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man id mail fatshark a therapy bill if a game lasted 2 hours

mighty cipher
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I really should. I don’t even know how it tracks cause it seems arbitrary.

mighty cipher
willow hazel
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The moment I tried the ovenproof scoreboard I had to disable it

mighty cipher
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We won that mission by the way.

upper sun
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damn how long was it?

mighty cipher
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Like 40 minutes

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The funniest part was that it was a fucking lv22 zealot hard carrying this team of max lvs in an auric mission that went sideways.

upper sun
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thats not horrible sooo i assume most of the deaths were from one person

mighty cipher
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oh no it was literally everyone except the aforementioned zealot

upper sun
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jesus

mighty cipher
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I had at least 6-7

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Yeah it was bad

upper sun
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what was the zealot on

mighty cipher
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I think it was stealth and twin knives.

upper sun
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prolly enough caffeine and Adderall to see the future

mighty cipher
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Mf was actually the best with those knives I’ve ever seen.

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Counter sniping snipers cross map in Arcivum Sycorax.

vernal blaze
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as long as they're standing still knife throws on zealot aren't actually that bad

willow hazel
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The nice thing about the knives is they work just as well at lv22 as they do at lv30

mighty cipher
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Actual zealot Jesus

vernal blaze
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oh lmao

upper sun
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good thing the zealot didnt die he would have respwaned as a saint

mighty cipher
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Another funny was that I said as we were loading in, ”I trust that zealot more than any of you.”.

upper sun
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did he have a banner/insginia?

mighty cipher
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It was an AURIC MISSION

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He LITERALLY wasn’t supposed to be there

upper sun
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so someone was in a striketeam with him?

mighty cipher
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Had to be, the only way to get access to mission types you can’t queue for.

upper sun
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ye i was trying to boost a friend we got in a t3 high inten mission

mighty cipher
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It’s also a really efficient way to turbo level

upper sun
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ye i over estimated my ability to carry tho

mighty cipher
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Tragic

upper sun
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we got 2 other lower levels

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and the game took 33 minutes to finish i was the only one on the elevator

mighty cipher
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Lol, lmao even

upper sun
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yeah i tried level both him and my ogryn we failed every t3 mission kek

mighty cipher
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Level based matchmaking in a nutshell

upper sun
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i just can only play zealot and psyker

mighty cipher
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Ah, fair enough.

radiant frigate
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psyker and vet for me

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zealot does not really click with me

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(anymore)

upper sun
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I just dont have the brain power to tag enemies before shooting them

tired estuary
harsh urchin
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he is a redditor himself

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so he cannot resist the urge

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there was one guy on reddit a few days ago, this one is funny

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he made a post "Can we expand the block list, too many toxic people"

little rapids
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reddit is a double edged sword

harsh urchin
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and then he posted an image

little rapids
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so useful to use but so cringe

harsh urchin
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and in that image, HE fucking instigated the toxicity

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like person A: "hey you're that toxic dumbass who did x, y, z in game a,b,c"

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and then person B responds in kind, obviously

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and person A makes a thread on reddit to complain about it LOL

tired estuary
harsh urchin
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it's absolutely crazy

mighty fractal
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Ain't that always the case

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it's always the people who brag/complain about their blacklists being full who

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90% of the time

harsh urchin
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I think i have like

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2 ppl

mighty fractal
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are the ones who started the toxic interaction in the first place

harsh urchin
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on my ignore

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after like over a year

little rapids
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why is trauma staff ability titled pyroblast 🤔

mighty fractal
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Yeah I just checked, I have 3 and I only remember one of them (some zealot who kept getting dropped into my games and rushing/dying)

harsh urchin
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oh i dont block ppl for being bad

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i only block them if they start typing bullshit lol

mighty fractal
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The other two were probably nazis or something, I can't remember

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I think that particular zealot was a case of "please Quick Play, stop putting this guy in my games no matter how much I wait around in the Mourningstar at 3am"

hollow current
mighty fractal
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And yeah, I knew some guy in FFXIV who always bragged about his blacklist being full and how he had to keep track of more people to ignore/block in an excel sheet

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surprise surprise

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he was toxic af

hollow current
mighty fractal
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You legit don't meet enough toxic players in that game to warrant that many people on your blacklist

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He was literally just blocking people for making mistakes in fights

harsh urchin
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MMO players lul

mighty fractal
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they are a different breed

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avoid them at all costs

fair spruce
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yall

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YALL

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they did a new datamining on the game files

mighty fractal
fair spruce
mighty fractal
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(rending shockwave)

little rapids
mighty fractal
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🙂

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nice

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in all fairness, Blaze and Shockwave are both fine

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I did a melee mael with a rending build last night

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Was very fun

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always a good time

mighty cipher
mighty fractal
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(except for the part where I got pinballed by two bursters off a ledge and then had to watch two zealots go down, leave, rejoin, and then go down again for an entire horde)

radiant frigate
mighty cipher
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Mark for death ”That motherfucker, kill him” Vet keystone I assume.

radiant frigate
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from that point on i just thought "alright i am never going to use that"

mighty fractal
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whyareyourunning.wav

radiant frigate
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Yes

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ran holding block

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it was a strange sight

mighty fractal
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lil bro/sis thought they were in a vt2 true solo vid

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actually if that were the case, they'd be running around spamming block cancel knife light attacks macro'd to mousewheel, then charging heavies to zip across the map

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the jsat experience™️

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so many zealots in my games this morning

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apparently they all become active around lunchtime

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Then I get back from work, and all the late night psyker and ogryn weirdos wake up

mighty cipher
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So what are the Vets considered?

mighty fractal
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they're just there

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being vets

mighty cipher
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Understandable

mighty fractal
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"Overtoughness Generators"

cosmic sigil
mighty fractal
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You actually might be right lmao

mighty cipher
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Isn’t zealot the most popular class?

mighty fractal
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or it's me being sleepy and not having the brainpower for anything with micromanagement (then I play psyker anyway)

cosmic sigil
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I don't play psyker after a hard day at work

mighty fractal
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I do and regret it, sometimes

cosmic sigil
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So yeah ogryn is probably meat and potatoes

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Point shoot destroy

radiant frigate
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but like

cosmic sigil
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And funny

radiant frigate
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so much fear from a zealot

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never seen before

mighty cipher
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Funny peril number go WEEEEEEEeoooooEEEEEEEEEooooooooWEEEEEEE and make me happy.

upper sun
radiant frigate
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(i mean, i do, but it's weapon spec)

little rapids
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what psyker aura do u guys think benefits the team the most

upper sun
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yeah i was thinking about that too

mighty cipher
upper sun
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the basic nodes are really good

little rapids
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i have warp charges and im not doing a crit build so i dont rlly know which one to take

mighty fractal
mighty cipher
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Any CD reduction is insane.

little rapids
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aight

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i trust u

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5% elite seemed underwhelming but i dont know how much crit matters to other classes

mighty cipher
little rapids
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psyker is my only lvl 30

upper sun
mighty fractal
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Vet tag keystone reaches some nice breakpoints with certain weapons like Helbore if you don't have the time to shoot a guaranteed Surgical crit (hectic horde situations)

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it has some nice team utility as well

mighty cipher
mighty cipher
mighty fractal
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Yeah it's very nice, especially because your teammates can trigger the buffs on kill

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Marksman's Focus is fun, but it doesn't do anything for the weapons I like to use (mostly Helbore 3)

mighty cipher
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Helllbore, my beloved.

mighty fractal
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give my vet a bolter crossbow

radiant frigate
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kantrael Ia, the ol' reliable

mighty cipher
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Focus is also just hard to keep up. The drain on movement is scuffed as hell.

mighty fractal
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i want to roleplay saltz BH in space

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I was in a game the other day with an Exe LA Kant vet who was putting in some serious work the other day

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props to him

radiant frigate
mighty fractal
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Yeah you right...

radiant frigate
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i wish it wasn't so

mighty fractal
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Until we get the double barreled shotgun that's floating around in the game files

radiant frigate
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*dead, not alive *

mighty fractal
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JUSTICE FINDS THEE-help me BACK UP

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well fuck you too, game

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This pos slug

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ate me

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waddled into a fire puddle

mighty cipher
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Lol, lmao even

mighty fractal
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and stood there for 10 seconds

mighty cipher
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Skill issue

mighty fractal
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then barfed me out and i died

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I literally just spawned into the match too lol

radiant frigate
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i hate the snail trail i hate the snail trail i hate the snail trail

upper sun
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why can you take fire damage inside the slug?

mighty fractal
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but that snail trail do be puttin in work on certain maps

mighty fractal
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but fire has a high vertical hitbox I think

mighty cipher
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Y’all ever been grabbed out of a mutants throw by a hound pouch while in a firebomb?

upper sun
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if anything it should be broiling damage

mighty fractal
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Chaos Spawns munching you above fire will also guarantee death

mighty fractal
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HUGE plays

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a glimpse of DT Versus

upper sun
mighty cipher
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The classic

upper sun
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i rage quit that game actually because i was doing player no deaths

mighty cipher
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My first game on carnival*[Ampitheater]* ended with me getting sent to the fucking backrooms.

mighty cipher
mighty fractal
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I saw that happen to an Ogryn the other night, except a BoN spit him out into a wall after a Vet shouted

mighty cipher
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Kek

mighty fractal
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I got poxbursted through a wall on Sycorax a while back too

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Pretty sure that's not a poxburster at that point, but actually a Tzeentchburster

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Just imagine

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Tzeentch hordes of cultists and psykers throwing chaos fire

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and then a swarm of Horrors spills in

mighty cipher
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A Tzeentchburster would just open a random game in your library.

mighty fractal
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and all of the blue horrors start running at you doing the Serious Sam scream and they're actually just exploding slaverats from VT2 oh god

mighty cipher
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”Fuck you go play some TF2”
And then you get stuck in the loading screen for so long your team kicks you for being AFK.

mighty fractal
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Tzeentch condemns you to a week of playing Bad Rats

mighty cipher
mighty fractal
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brazil's greatest export

mighty cipher
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Did you just post the ENTIRE video?

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Okay

mighty fractal
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it's the proper thing to do

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A BR friend of mine was actually in a game design class with the guy who made Bad Rats lmao

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small world

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great expectations

rigid sky
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BoN is the most threatening boss by far imo

mighty fractal
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It's very map-dependent, but it's definitely true in some situations

rigid sky
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Easiest for new playera

mighty fractal
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People underrate the slug because he doesn't stunlock you into a corner

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but he creates such a mess

rigid sky
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But you can learn to deal with pogryn and chaos spawn. At least your team can deal with it if you just turtle up.

mighty cipher
rigid sky
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BoN is king of area denial

mighty fractal
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New players overrate spawns in both VT2 and DT

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they're still annoying

rigid sky
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Also the way that it runs away if it chomps you

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Behind enemy lines

mighty fractal
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but spawns are easy to kite usually, so long as you have free space to dodge into the grab attack

rigid sky
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New player BoN < Pogryn < Spawn

mighty fractal
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that's the other thing - when you first start playing, dodging INTO the tentacle grab never crosses your mind

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because why would you

rigid sky
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Experienced player Pogryn = Spawn < BoN

mighty fractal
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but that's how you dodge the grab lol

mighty cipher
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The most dangerous part about the spawns is their ability to send you to the warp.

rigid sky
mighty fractal
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Spawns are also more fair in this game than in VT

rigid sky
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The moment somebody gets grabbed you just have to close distance and then back off

mighty fractal
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I rationalize it by thinking that you're narrowly sliding under the tentacle

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like a cool dude/gal

rigid sky
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Then it's just a stalling attack

mighty fractal
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Plogryns are more annoying than spawns sometimes imo

rigid sky
mighty fractal
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since they have so many knockbacks

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Which is also funny

rigid sky
mighty fractal
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because Plogryns are literally just Minotaurs but much fairer

mighty cipher
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There is ONE SPOT where plague ogryns are the single most dangerous thing in this game.

rigid sky
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As for daemonhosts I have no idea how tough they really are now

mighty fractal
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They're Minotaurs without the awful "I'm going to keep tunnelvisioning your Bardin, but then do a 180 and smack you a single time and down you before swapping back to Bardin" attack

rigid sky
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Any team good enough to kill them is good enough to not spawn them

mighty fractal
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Depends heavily on team loadout imo

rigid sky
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I know I aggroed one a few days ago with kickback suppression by mistake, turtled up with my clobb and slapped it around a bit and the team killed it in about 30s without me taking any damage

mighty fractal
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Gunlugger Ogryns with Stubbers and Zealots with various weapons shred them like crazy

mighty cipher
rigid sky
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The fact that they are weak to being literally bitchslapped with a bully club special attack is amazing

mighty fractal
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🫲

rigid sky
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The terrors of the warp < This Hand

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Nearly pissed meself laughing

mighty cipher
mighty cipher
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Without fail it punts everyone off the platform with little to no effort.

mighty fractal
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Once you get past that platform, the map becomes much easier

mighty cipher
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Counter-argument, Investigation Last area
Trainyard last area.

mighty fractal
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Trainyard last area is fun

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I wish there were more of a reason to use the entire map

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If you're talking about uhhh

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Consignment Yard

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Or are you talking about Chasm Terminus

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Chasm Terminus' long railway section before the final area is lethal too

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Water Silo though

mighty cipher
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Consignment yard is great, terminus is also scuffed.

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SILO

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I always forget the name.

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That place is HELL

mighty fractal
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Water Silo is the hardest map imo

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that first area is awful sometimes

mighty cipher
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That long ass tunnel with literally no cover at all followed by the beanbagger convention hall.

mighty fractal
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Yeeeep

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It's definitely made for a different version of the game that focused more on shootouts

mighty cipher
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And the BOMBER ANGLES dude HOLY SHIT.

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Tom Brady out here tossing bombs through the warp and straight under my feet from three walls over.

mighty fractal
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Bomber accuracy is very funny sometimes

mighty cipher
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The only “sightline” that even comes close is the funny sniper spot on Cooling rods where they can fire though like 5 different walls and two rooms over.

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The first time I saw it I actually thought it was stuck inside a wall somewhere.

mighty fractal
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lmao

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Oh I know the one you're talking about

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Yeah that area is wack sometimes

mighty cipher
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Fun fact, I never saw the last area of Ascension Riser(?) until I had already maxed out every character because every team I had always died in the train/interrogator section.

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I thought they added a new mission until my buddy recognized the mission.

mighty fractal
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Ascension Riser is the other hardest map imo

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Excise Vault is hard too, but it's mostly the finale that can go wrong

mighty cipher
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I honestly find the earlier sections of Vault harder. But that might just be me being a Purgatus main talking.

stable halo
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The dropdown in the carnival 💀💀💀

mighty cipher
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Oh my god, release carnival was something else

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Although I’m pretty sure that was because they changed spawns and something ended up getting mixed up.

mighty fractal
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Release Carnival was tense but not too bad for me

cosmic sigil
mighty fractal
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It was mostly because people hadn't discovered the safe spot near the beginning of the finale yet

mighty cipher
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I think I had a survival rate of line 20% when it dropped

mighty fractal
cosmic sigil
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So true

mighty cipher
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New carnival*(Methhouse)* was pretty good balance wise. The only iffy part was the absolutely massive Rager waves that come at the end of it.

cosmic sigil
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Because bombers and trappers spawn together

radiant frigate
mighty cipher
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I should make a poll of what people think the hardest maps are

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See how opinions differ between chats.

cosmic sigil
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I would say the debut of the torrent map with the stairs

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The new hab ending

mighty cipher
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New carnival is overall pretty balanced.

cosmic sigil
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Refinery delta is probably a harder map but it's constant

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People do not know how to deal with shooters in the first room

mighty cipher
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Which one is refinery again?

cosmic sigil
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Desert map with the ending in an oil refinery

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You running around to decode stuff

mighty cipher
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Is that the one where you’re told to go blow up a virus?

cosmic sigil
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You have a long corridor of death before the lift

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Yeah I think

mighty cipher
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We as a community need to come up with names for these missions man.

mighty fractal
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FOLLOW

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THE PIPES

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yeah taht area is the hardest part

mighty cipher
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I can hear HADRON, I SAID HADRON. saying that.

cosmic sigil
mighty cipher
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That’s the one

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Yeah the first room on their is kinda fucky

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Man, Hadron sure gives me a Hardon.

mighty fractal
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@radiant frigate

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here

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we bullied this slug in his nest for you

stable halo
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No bulli slug

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He just a lil guy

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Just wants a snacky snack

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SPLORP

radiant frigate
mighty fractal
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mr slug woke up today

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thought

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"Hmm yes today is a great day to take a walk outside and spread my snail juices everywhere"

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and then found three angry insects and one slightly larger insect wailing on him

rigid sky
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You can wipe there on an Auric maelstrom and nobody on the team will even be mad

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It's just like "well we attempted the impossible and survived for far longer than reasonable anyway, gg better luck later"

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Narratively it makes sense for that to be a "boss map" too since the silo clusters are like the primary threat of the Dregs as far as we can tell

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Fucking with Tertium's water supply with nurgly badness

static sonnet
long wharf
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the pleasures of the flesh cannot be replicated in steel, Sibling

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clearly you are defective, see the nearest Commissar immediately

austere crest
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has anyone had this issue lately, with bb's not cracking off in normal time? it hangs at full charge

upper sun
long wharf
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could have been lag

austere crest
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its probably been like 2-3 times per match past week or so

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maybe lag, but its weird lag if so, its right at the end

upper sun
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anyone know whats the tick rate for their servers? maybe i can find another meangless issue to bitch about

long wharf
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could be your game loading the BB effects assets

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that wouldn't explain it happening multiple times a match, though

austere crest
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it's driving me nuts, adding 2-3sec to a pop randomly

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hopefully it resolves itself

austere crest
long wharf
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most likely lag

austere crest
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karkin ell

upper sun
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"stealth vet in my auric"

upper sun
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he did good but only used the ult once and people ran out of ammo because lol no survialist

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i think used the wrong build my mistake

hollow current
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game is feeling sticky today 😔

long wharf
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try cleaning your keyboard

hollow current
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slides and dodging feeling like my psyker has bad suspension

lyric burrow
upper sun
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I havent had any issues today

austere crest
lyric burrow
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Yeah

austere crest
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ty ty ty

mighty olive
austere crest
upper sun
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actually

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forget that i got a weird error message

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something something fatshark servers

austere crest
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yeah it timed out a mission for us this morning too

bold badger
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steam is having issues, if that's what you're playing on

urban sandal
stable halo
lyric burrow
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Carnival is hella fun if you dont camp the entrance

austere crest
austere crest
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camping front is a good time to check discord

lyric burrow
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Yeah

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Its just smelter complex 2

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If you camp entrance

feral verge
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the duo run

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josho's chastise bugged out and made him ledge himself

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i go to save the day, and get kicked off the ledge by the sniper

lyric burrow
#

Give twbs to everyone thanks

dim parrot
#

we can only dream

mighty cipher
#

Make it so that you dont get stunned while you have toughness

spice veldt
lyric burrow
#

How did your exam go arco

spice veldt
#

it went ok

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I think I did well except for the last question which algebra-checked my ass

lyric burrow
#

Im probs rusty as shit on algebra

#

Thats good tho

spice veldt
#

woohoo

lyric burrow
#

You sound very excited

spice veldt
#

glad to have that over

#

now to do the homework that is due tomo

lyric burrow
#

Yeah i hate exams too

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Damn

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There used to be a time where i could live with exams into homework

#

Nowadays i would simply sleep

spice veldt
#

at least the homework that I have to do is relatively easy

#

as long as I just grind it out

lunar hollow
#

play darktide for 12 hours straight

lyric burrow
#

Thats good

#

I play darktide for 12 hours in a desperate attempt to escape reality

lunar hollow
#

dont we all

spice veldt
lunar hollow
#

im still mad about that

lyric burrow
#

I dont blame you

urban sandal
#

why would it do that

spice veldt
#

smh smh

lunar hollow
#

we had just survived the dumbest 1 bomber almost killing us in a corner shit too

#

and then that fkin happened

lyric burrow
#

Sometimes bombers simply assassinate you

spice veldt
#

the horrors of being in a narrow corridor with a bomber

#

I got rumbled in a mission yesterday because of the fire covering an entire walkway

lyric burrow
#

It really do be like that

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I love it when i think im fine getting away from one bomber and then 45 other bombs fly in and i get stuck on a single poxwalker and die

lunar hollow
#

im p sick of area denial enemies targeting downed players

#

you should be able to bait a bomber nade away from a downed player and then run to get him up if you're smart about it

#

but he can just go

#

lol no

lyric burrow
#

Yeah im getting a little sick of going down and 2 bombs fucking instantly explode at my body

#

And its like welp guess im dead

#

I dont mind having to fight through shit to get people up

lunar hollow
#

fire also shouldnt be able to ignore your toughness regain on revive

#

they fucking patched that feature in to stop you getting walloped by groaners if someone ressed you in a horde

lyric burrow
#

Yeah that too

#

I have to just stare at your body and hope nothing shows up

lunar hollow
#

very cool gameplay

lyric burrow
#

Or spam E to keep the timer from running out

#

Im a little conflicted because i want to be punished for dying but infinite bombs on my downed body is just annoying

lunar hollow
#

the punishment for dying is you are no longer playing

#

auric skews too heavily towards "simply let them die" in high intensity situations because the specials will literally just cover everyone in flames

lyric burrow
#

Well i meant punished for going down

#

Like i want dont want people to be able to get me up too easily

lunar hollow
#

yea i mean u have to watch the wound curio ogryn struggle to melee shotgunners

#

which is the worst punishment known to man

lyric burrow
#

But yeah the special stuff can get annoying

#

Cause you just cant interact with jt

#

On one hand my bad for going down

#

On the other i probably got grabbed by a chaos spawn and a flamer showed up

hexed geyser
#

But sometimes you go down to such stupid stuff it doesn't feel fair at all

lunar hollow
#

cspawn grab into fire is a very strong reason to leave mission

#

it's so infuriating because the hitbox on it is still dumb

hexed geyser
#

Yeah that one is just stupid. Or mutie into sniper shot without ground time

wet belfry
#

Cspawn grab is the attack that ends the most of my runs.

#

Absolutely infurating.

hexed geyser
#

Can you dodge it or something like the nurgle? I never bothered to check.

lyric burrow
#

I mind it slightly less on muties

wet belfry
lunar hollow
#

i had a duo end to a 7k hp cspawn because a flamer spawned just in time for me to get grabbed

lyric burrow
#

Cause they are so non threatening and made of paper

lunar hollow
hexed geyser
#

So what do you do to dodge?

lyric burrow
#

Dodge right

hexed geyser
#

Oh great i'll try that now

lunar hollow
#

the most important part of fighting a cspawn is to keep ur right open

wet belfry
#

Also dodging left of the arm is nearly sure to make the chaos spawn grab you even if you are out of the arms radius.

urban sandal
#

dodging left or backwards can work but it's inconsistent

lyric burrow
#

The arm comes way around

lunar hollow
#

you can dodge backwards down stairs

lyric burrow
#

So left can be really inconsistent

lunar hollow
#

if you can get underneath the hitbox proper like with an elevation change it works

wet belfry
#

I really think the grab also needs some actual audio

lyric burrow
#

I can react to it fine

wet belfry
#

Its hard to fight chaos spawns while also dealing with specials.

lyric burrow
#

But ive gotta be dealing with it

wet belfry
#

The boss is way to geared towards the camera being on it 24/7

lyric burrow
#

And im sideways half the time

#

So i can see around me

urban sandal
#

if I have to fight 2 chaos spawns in a maelstrom solo it's gg

lyric burrow
#

Yeah cspawn is the one boss thats really difficult solo

wet belfry
#

Ive had to fight 3 of them at the same time as solo

lyric burrow
#

Cause you cant get him off you easily

wet belfry
#

Actually managed to kill two of them

lyric burrow
#

Unless you can nuke him

lunar hollow
#

back when monstrous specials would spawn full hp bosses i had to fight a bon and i think a cspawn at the end of chasm logistratum

#

that was some shit

lyric burrow
#

Lol

#

Yeah that would be ass

wet belfry
#

Hope to god pretty much that you are a zealot

lyric burrow
#

Ogryn could do it

#

But bon would be annoying

#

Mobility would be felt while fighting cspawn at the Same time

urban sandal
#

problem is the other bosses still attack you while the chaos spawn is eating you

#

so you cant get grabbed

#

at all

lyric burrow
#

Yeah you just wouldn't be able to get grabbed

#

And back then cspawn grab would be even dumber

wet belfry
#

Specials, bosses, occasionaly gunners while attack players even while grabbed

#

Gunners i do not think is intended

lunar hollow
#

the big problem is that it doesnt make enemies cancel their animations

#

so ragers/gunners will do it still because they have p long animations for their attacks

lyric burrow
#

Flamers just need to put fire there to kill you too

#

Assuming nobody can free you quickly

#

Or people are just unaware you can make cspawn throw the grabbed player

lunar hollow
#

i had a psyker put up a wall and then surge a cspawn

#

just outside of the range

#

THANKS BRO

#

U HELPED

lyric burrow
#

Lol

#

Tbf they probably should mention that

lunar hollow
#

the tutorial was made before the cspawn

lyric burrow
#

But its really easy to catch onto

#

Just from seeing it

torpid girder
#

What are psykers even supposed to rlly do against bosses
run and brain burst them?

wet belfry
#

Melee is the highest dps option

#

So you melee them.

torpid girder
#

A plogryn I can take but idk about chaos spawns or beasts of nurgle

wet belfry
#

Its not easy

lyric burrow
#

Ds4/deimos is decent vs them

#

Otherwise BB or run gunker

#

Void is ok too

wet belfry
#

Espically in a real match, where latency isnt perfect and nor is the terrain.

#

Psykanium is very much playing the boss fights in easy mode.

spice veldt
#

bonbon you can maybe melee if the opportunity presents itself, which is not too bad since you can easily dodge the spit if nothing else is bothering you

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cspawn i usually just block and stay in place so that my teammates can melee it without having to chase it if it's aggroed onto me
and then i am sad if it's not aggroed me because i have to stab it in its body

lunar hollow
#

im pretty sure if you have reasonable ping bossfights are actually easier live if you're in 1v1

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because of the lag compensation that isnt present in psykh

wet belfry
#

I dunno

lunar hollow
#

i know for instance snipers are noticeably worse atm on selfhosted lobbies

spice veldt
#

yeah the plague ogryn is so fucking annoying in the psykh

wet belfry
#

i win near every fight in the psykanium vs chaos spawns

spice veldt
#

it is so hard to dodge the underhand in the psykh

wet belfry
#

And i dont in real games

#

I dont get grabbed in psykanium

#

I always get grabbed in real games

lunar hollow
#

that has nothing to do with ping

#

it's p much always a terrain thing

wet belfry
#

The grab part does somewhat

#

Because its still the same movement from psykanium to real game.

lunar hollow
#

the lag compensation is super forgiving in dt besides hitreg

spice veldt
#

i can consistently dodge the grab if i'm close and dodge right

#

dodging left almost always gets me grabbed for whatever reason, even though i'm pretty sure they balanced the hitbox on it

lunar hollow
#

(unless you get something stupid like dodges being rolled back)

spice veldt
#

though it could be just that i have a tendency to hug its right

spice veldt
#

would never happen of course

lunar hollow
#

i am honored that the game has to go out of its way to kill me

#

im joining the greats (tinyangrycrab)

spice veldt
#

this is so sad

lunar hollow
#

another josho L 😔

lyric burrow
#

F

#

Bro

#

I am going to fucking die

spice veldt
#

finally

lyric burrow
#

😭

rotund fable
#

I'm sorry, Force swords can get the bloodthirsty enchant?!?!?!

little rapids
#

Yes. chadgryn

spice veldt
#

ye

rotund fable
#

SINCE WHEN!?!?!

spice veldt
#

since launch

#

it used to be cooler when the obscurus was the only force sword since it was bugged to give 100% crit chance for 5 seconds and was not consumed on hit

rotund fable
#

I... feel like I've suffered a mandela effect...

spice veldt
#

it's a pretty rare blessing so that prob explains why you haven't seen it

rotund fable
#

Melk is selling this sword for less than 2k...

#

So... i can theoretically slap the bloodthirsty onto an ilisi and just go ham on hordes that get into meele range?

sullen sphinx
#

Blazing Spirit + Bloodthirsty

solid sparrow
#

The warp batter penance is dumb I can't keep the charges up or get the kills going

orchid shadow
#

What difficulty and map are you trying it on?

solid sparrow
#

It has to done on malice or higher

rigid kettle
#

which one is warp battery again? I couldnt find it in my list of completed

orchid shadow
#

It's harder on the lower difficulties due to less enemies and shorter engagements. And certain maps aren't really good for it, like Hab dreyko since there are 3 airlocks that stop combat.

orchid shadow
wind spruce
solid sparrow
#

@rigid kettle this

rigid kettle
#

I do not remember if I have those pants or not, definitely dont remember doing that achievement but the only thing I have left in the psyker specific area is just complete missions

torpid girder
#

If it helps you don't need to have 300 secs in a row
it's just in the match

solid sparrow
#

Like I wish I could do solo game because too many people are too kill happy and keep taking out the specialists before I can

torpid girder
#

so u could just play like a damnation or auric and avoid using ur ult unless u have to

sullen sphinx
#

Farming escape hordes is a valid strategy as well

solid sparrow
#

Do any of the talents mess with the ability to complete this ?

rigid kettle
#

blehhhhhh multiple critical balls go BOOM

left basin
#

blah wah wah blah surge bad because crit on kills one person and cant kill bigur things with surge. this entire blessing is made with true aim in mind (if you ignore pre-rework but that never existed and is propaganda). if you MOVE your staff when you aim you quickly find out there's TWO projectiles that you can reliably use to remove TWO large lines of bullshit. surge works on lmb and lmb is furiously spammable. both projectiles can proc true aim

sullen sphinx
#

Yea, I like Warp Flurry more, but launching two balls of doom is good

brazen warren
#

low charge time spam is better for surge(the blessing), because your rate of fire is higher. this also contriubutes to your outgoing suppression

left basin
#

besides, with quellcancel it becomes unfunny powerful if you don't spaz with your mouse

#

talking lmb

rigid kettle
#

plus seriously each one of the orbs being a crit means it procs any on crit effect twice, ntm they're both doing insano damage

left basin
#

"buh objectibily bad"

#

fucking excelwarriors and their math gaming

rigid kettle
#

my beloved must not talk to them very much, its rather sad isnt it?

brazen warren
#

having the time to full charge is only for the first 2-3 opening shots of an engagement, but in the thick of it surge shines with its flexibility by allowing you more choice in mobility and fire pattern

#

not saying that you cant chad mode full charge in a melee to style on nurgle but its not as frequent

plucky flax
#

I think surge blessing is good for void SadgeCry

limber silo
#

I tried talking to Tanner, but it seems he only takes critique after a few days of investigating himself

#

His argument is "Critting on void already let you oneshot almost everything," but his argument relies on full charging every single shot. Surge lets you oneshot stuff WITHOUT full charge.

#

And every argument he has boils down to "That's objectively a worse way to play so you're invalid." I like the guys videos for being pretty accurate and informative, he's just a little unreceptive to criticism unless it comes in large quantities

sullen sphinx
#

Well, he can his opinion and we can have ours, nothing wrong with that.

limber silo
#

My issue is he's mostly factual. He did not say anything wrong in his video, he just ignored other factors that are not as obvious at first glance

left basin
#

i liked his take about weakspots but only because i like spots that are weak

limber silo
#

Like him or hate him, Tanner Lindberg is one of the more accurate sources of Darktide knowledge

left basin
#

besides, he's ignoring the real problem of speaker-destroying crackle of old voidstrike not being present in the game

limber silo
#

I know, I miss the old KRACK-KABOOSH you used to get

sullen sphinx
#

Yea, gave it more impact

left basin
#

the reason i exclusively sat on voidstrike before it was popular

#

but then...

limber silo
#

It used to be pretty weak, but now it's nutso strong

left basin
#

it still isn't. buff voidstrike pls

#

more voidstrike

#

and only give it to me

#

in my unbiased objective factual opinion voidstrike should one-shot daemonhosts and have the thrust blessing

#

to be fair everything in the game should have something that's named THRUST

sullen sphinx
limber silo
#

Mon'keigh's Paw

left basin
#

... rmb brainburst should have thrust

left basin
sullen sphinx
#

I prefer Trauma and mental damage it deals to elites

left basin
#

i just don't get the cadence of trauma

#

i like lines and removing them

torpid girder
#

trauma is like voidstrike but instead of a line it's a really big circle

sullen sphinx
#

Trauma can be janky to aim, but it's really fun to use

limber silo
#

You have to kinda treat it like a grenade launcher and play with an arc in your aim

#

It's fun

radiant frigate
#

idk why i wouldn't pick surge on voidstrike

left basin
#

i even got a metuh firetrauma because some of some propaganda

#

@plucky flax

radiant frigate
#

already oneshots smallfry, so? doesn't oneshot maulers/crushers

left basin
#

i did get funky damage numbers and ego was high but aeuch

sullen sphinx
#

I love Blazing Trauma myself, but I'm running heretical variant with Flurry instead of Nexus

left basin
#

buh crits

radiant frigate
#

surge/blazing voidstrike 🪬

limber silo
radiant frigate
#

blaze trauma with flurry?

limber silo
#

yeah

left basin
#

yesh

radiant frigate
#

i was thinking you can make it work with true aim

left basin
#

you can but

#

aech

radiant frigate
#

but flurry would do nothing

limber silo
#

7.5-17.5% chance to use one of the very valuable blessing slots on your weapon doesn't seem like a good investment

sullen sphinx
#

Nah, for me, max charge Flurry staff can melt bulk of the horde by itself, and with 22.5% chance stuff that flies around will catch on fire so you don't need to do cleanup

left basin
#

if you're talking blazevoid with true aim

radiant frigate
#

no i meant the flurry trauma

left basin
#

ah

limber silo
sullen sphinx
radiant frigate
#

i do run true aim surge blaze void

#

unleash terror

limber silo
limber silo
#

Most everything you hit with a crit is already dead, so...

radiant frigate
left basin
#

i wonder if they'll ever remove quellcancel LMG staves

radiant frigate
#

void does have a blast radius

#

so it would blaze the survivors

left basin
#

mmm blaze

limber silo
#

Flurry would get you more shots quicker

radiant frigate
#

which i don't

limber silo
#

Oh yeah, true aim

sullen sphinx
#

True aim variant can be funny too

radiant frigate
#

may aswell make those crits as fat as possible

sullen sphinx
#

DS4 is quite good at charging it

limber silo
#

Anyone know how high the finesse is on void? Should I always got for headshots or does it not matter that much?

radiant frigate
#

on big targets i suppose

left basin
#

you should always go for headshots because headshots

radiant frigate
#

or just anything bigger than smallfry

#

gunners have a habit of surviving noncrits

plucky flax
sullen sphinx
#

We need 300% blast radius increase

radiant frigate
#

500% cast time for 300% blast radius

sullen sphinx
#

Long cast but nukes the place

radiant frigate
#

like how brain burst should operate but for aoe

#

brain burst should just do Remaining Health in damage and adjust the cast time based on how much brain you have left to burst

#

but that sounds like hell to implement

sullen sphinx
#

Yea, also it'll make it hard to use against Monstrosities

spice veldt
#

i suppose just increment some value and continuously check if it's higher than the enemy's remaining hp

radiant frigate
#

give me 20 seconds unbothered and i will oneshot the boss purityseal

spice veldt
#

only problem is the charge bar, though that's visual only

radiant frigate
#

sounds a little busted

sullen sphinx
#

Well, 20 seconds of casting uninterrupted can be a challenge

radiant frigate
#

but tbh that change isn't really needed (anymore)

spice veldt
#

i prob wouldn't have it be infinitely chargeable and would still have some limit

#

maybe to allow a meme playstyle where the psyker holds RMB the entire match

radiant frigate
#

in The Before Times where it wouldn't oneshot flamers/gunners after a certain difficulty it just felt awful

spice veldt
#

and just uses it only on daemonhosts and bosses

radiant frigate
#

"oh shit, daemonhost, give me a while so i can safwly dispose of it"

sullen sphinx
#

Maybe it would work with something like Banishment if they add it

spice veldt
#

at least flamers were brought low enough that you can just finish them off with a bolt

radiant frigate
#

Yes

#

but i still think that your brain exploding should probably be lethal

limber silo
#

The most reasonable thing in this game is exploding an ogryns brain and them still being fine

radiant frigate
#

yeah

#

you only hit them in the brain, after all

limber silo
#

Its not like they're using it

radiant frigate
#

what about tbe 2nd brain

sullen sphinx
radiant frigate
#

or maybe ogryn brains are so big that you can only explode half at a time

#

rather than the whole thing

left basin
#

BRAIN BURST WITH TRAUMA BLESSING

radiant frigate
#

or perhaps they have really thick skulls that keep the brain together strongly enough to still function

sullen sphinx
stable halo
left basin
#

i just realized that the newyears psyker skin has hallowette's facemask

radiant frigate
#

after all, one of our own incomparable minds has an implant cooking his brain

left basin
#

i shall once again try firetrauma

sullen sphinx
#

Burn it all

silent socket
#

Hey can one of y’all send me a gun Psyker build that doesn’t use a revolver-

wind spruce
#

This with las pistol or columnus

#

There's two extra toughness nodes you can swap out if you're dying for quickshards, warp speed or whatever

radiant frigate
# wind spruce

i don't want to be a naysayer but are you certain of the perilous combustion

#

asking because i saw this a few days ago

#

which i can only assume had perilous combustion as its only source of soulblaze

#

(voidstrike with... bubble i think?)

silent socket
#

rq what do I keep what do I toss

radiant frigate
#

toss the entire thing imo

upper sun
#

melee damage to flak and blazing to uncanny and its workable

rigid sky
#

The justification is this:

#

Perilous combustion gud.

#

It doesn't need more soulblaze synergy to be good.

rigid sky
#

Psyker single target weapons are primarily mutant murderers.

#

Lean into that.

#

BTW I might be mad but I advocate for mind in motion for gunker

#

You can keep mobility while quelling to time your SG damage burst better

#

I know, I know, bad QoL talent

#

But this is the one instance where it makes sense imo

elder glade
#

I guess it honestly depends on how you play your Gunker. If you have a good idea as to how you should quel then it wouldn't really do much for you, but some might find it useful.

Whenever I run Gunker I don't bother even running assail, preferring more time spent in SG as I don't have issues with ammo management to warrant assail

rigid sky
#

I'm assailing less for total ammo issues and more for magazine readiness issues

#

Also because I can't control how much ammo my team needs

#

If we have a surv vet etc

wind spruce
rigid sky
#

If we have 3 ogryn spamming ramblers everywhere

wind spruce
#

Decide for yourself whether that's worth a talent point.

rigid sky
#

PC is like having a Blaze trauma go off around the thing you just killed (minus the trauma part)

wind spruce
#

And minus the incredible range.

rigid sky
#

But when you look at how ranged elites often cluster up into tight little death balls

#

It really pays off

wind spruce
#

I wouldn't say "really" but it does pay

#

As I said, it'll do 5-10% of your damage

rigid sky
#

It's not a carry but it's a nice bit of extra powah yeah

wind spruce
#

Actually looking at a few scoreboards it's more like 2.5%-7.5%

rigid sky
#

Raw quantity of damage is not so useful a metric imo

wind spruce
wind spruce
rigid sky
#

It's what the damage gets applied to and when that counts

#

And how safely

wind spruce
#

Because the raw quantity of damage would overestimate the usefulness of such a talent

#

So it's even less useful than what the numbers might suggest

rigid sky
#

PC is safe damage that tends to hit priority targets

wind spruce
#

No, it tends to hit low priority targets the most

rigid sky
#

Shooters are important

urban sandal
#

no coincidence that bruisers and shooters cause most player deaths whatthefuck_heresy

wind spruce
#

People neglect them

rigid sky
#

Also antishooter weapons are presently unfashionable

#

Zarona and plasma aren't the best for that job

#

CIAG holding the whole thing together pretty much

wind spruce
#

Even ciag is only mid in that regard

#

Mid in terms of weapon archetype not current power level

rigid sky
#

And that's why we go back to Assail being worth it for gunker.

#

Well one reason

#

Complex game, lots of factors.

#

Don't you just love how many people have this extreme opinion of like "ew gun psyker, go get a staff or play veteran"

#

Like, I get it pre 13

#

But gunker is such a weird lovely monster of a build now that plays nothing at all like veteran

mighty fractal
#

vet can't throw up a shield to let themselves shoot gunners freely

#

🙂

#

well

#

smokes are supposed to do that

#

but shield >>> smokes

rigid sky
#

Neither can a SG gunker tbf

#

Which is the sexy version of the build

mighty fractal
#

Yeah that's true

rigid sky
#

Stack those damage modifiers all the way up

elder glade
#

You can still run shield on a Gunker, just make sure to run DD and you'll be fine

rigid sky
#

To the one place not corrupted by capitalism:

#

SPAAAACE

mighty fractal
#

bless C&C

#

ahh it's that time of night where i spend an hour entering empty lobbies, waiting 60 seconds, then going back to the ship to hop back into QP

wind spruce
junior linden
#

this set with the veil is awesome I get to kill heretics in my jammies

wind spruce
#

Pimpin' jammies, sibling

junior linden
#

I got them for sanguinala theyre comfy

elder glade
rigid sky
junior linden
#

I love you empowered psyonics brain burst

#

choose 3 bastards to delete at your leisure

rigid sky
#

do it from within a bubble too

#

be the god of very specifically targeted death

radiant frigate
#

couple it with the barrage talent

#

rapid fire headpops

spice veldt
#

you mean kinetic ✨✨resonance✨✨

rigid sky
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and the best thing is, if you kill an elite with it

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you get your charge back :D

lyric burrow
junior linden
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yeah its so much fun lmao

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I use it with flame staff

spice veldt
junior linden
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zealots just hate me cause I burn stuff better than they do

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:D

lyric burrow
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arco youll love what i made for my psyker

rigid sky
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I like warp charges on purgatus. Or I would if they weren't so expensive to take.

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I feel like warp charges and purgatus are made for each other

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that soulblaze generation talent is really nice

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but I hate having to actually go down that leg of the tree

junior linden
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its SO EXPENSIVEEEE

rigid sky
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it's so bad to even get to warp charges and then you have to drop 5 fucking points on it if you want to go all the way with it

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and having a 4 cap on warp charges just makes me sad

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even if it's probably better than having the 6 cap

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it makes me feel like a low level

mighty fractal
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this is what happens when you're reviving the psyker, he leaves right as you finish, and then you're stuck with a bot for nearly 30 minutes

junior linden
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I must squeeze in any toughness node I can LOL

rigid sky
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but no you will take coherency radius

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and fucking quell speed

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and you will pretend to like it

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all for warp charges that you no longer have proper control of like you did pre-13

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that fuck off the moment you use your ult

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(but being able to do rapid-recharging fire shrieks is very nice I will concede)

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meanwhile the other keystones are gated by:

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Warp Rider only (like you'd ever not take it)

mighty fractal
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Coherency Radius is still pretty nice for Seer's Presence

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Psyker probably needs it less than other classes for toughness regen since

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well

rigid sky
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and a 5% crit node (wtf), kinetic deflection (bit more niche but one of the best defensive nodes), and true aim (with assail or voidstrike it's crazy good)

mighty fractal
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psyker has like 6 ways to restore toughness on command

rigid sky
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Yeah, psyker only dies when you get hit twice in a row really

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(although you do die like instantly when that happens)

mighty fractal
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psyker gameplay goes

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take no damage for 95% of the mission

rigid sky
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Two bruisers sneak up behind you

mighty fractal
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two bruisers hit you and now you're at 10% hp

rigid sky
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swing clubs at the same time

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you are fucking dead

mighty fractal
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and then the team collapses

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because apparently your horde clear/elite control was the one thing keeping the team together

rigid sky
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and the zealot who's been shrugging off chip damage swings for the whole mission's like "you fucking suck"

mighty fractal
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then he gets trapped

rigid sky
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while he's three rooms away masturbating over his knife

mighty fractal
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and leaves as the ogryn is reviving him

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and now you're stuck with a bot for 10 minutes

upper sun
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I feel like the psyker nerfs were mainly because the devs think that ammo management is harder than it actually is

mighty fractal
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I said it yesterday, but poor match quality due to people leaving and joining through QP all the time and not being able to just host lobbies ala VT2 is a bigger threat to this game's longevity than any shitty MTX cash shop

upper sun
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they need custom games too

rigid sky
mighty fractal
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That too

rigid sky
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if the mission timer rolls over

mighty fractal
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yup

rigid sky
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I had a Hab Dreyko yesterday where we were 3 for 90% of the mission

mighty fractal
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have fun with the bot in your monstrous specials poxburster wave mael

rigid sky
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that final event took us about 20 minutes of hell

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it wasn't even a hard maelstrom

mighty fractal
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oh yeah Dreyko finale is awful with a bot lol

junior linden
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I literally wont queue for maelstrom if the mission timer is below 75%

rigid sky
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think it was I III

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but yeah, the bot doesn't help you in Dreyko at all

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I was trauma psyker and I had too much pressure on me to really operate

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we couldn't leave the side of the arena with the revive station

mighty fractal
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This game being Quickplay-only is good for match quantity, both for keeping players playing and for gathering data

rigid sky
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if I had been shriek trauma we might have made it

mighty fractal
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but you sacrifice match quality as a result

rigid sky
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but bubble wasn't cutting it for our comp

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and then we tragically died on the mad dash to the skyranger at the end

mighty fractal
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and people get gradually more and more upset over time if their matches are nonstop "join during a team wipe, get booted to mission fail screen, spend 1-3 minutes loading the Mourningstar, run back to the terminal, join QP again..."

rigid sky
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I almost quit for the day

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(but then I went and did a hi5stg with my voidstrike and got my happy dopamine back)

mighty fractal
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The MTX shop is poorly implemented, but it's not what's primarily endangering the game

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as much as we like to complain about it

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a bad mtx shop alone isn't going to kill a game if it only offers cosmetics

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Lack of updates, sure. Though these days, gaming habits involve jumping from one game to the next as the previous game begins to slow (but not completely stop) its constant patch cycle. Then people get over the honeymoon phase of their current game, and then it's on to the next big game that's getting tons of hype online

rigid sky
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Meanwhile, autistic me who latches onto the game as a special interest is like where did everybody go

mighty fractal
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Yeah I've had games wipe there because a bunch of Bulwarks were hogging up the safe bridge

mighty fractal
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I tend to stick with games and play the hell out of them for thousands of hours

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I think this game will last quite a while like VT2 has, but matchmaking is also far less painful in VT2

mighty fractal
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QP seems to favor the map that most recently spawned on the mission board

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So you'll keep getting thrown into the same map over and over, whether you like it or not

rigid sky
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I also never touch QP because lights out modifier

mighty fractal
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Lights Out puts me to sleep

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I avoid it when possible

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some people love it, good for them

rigid sky
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If I'm gonna pick QP then I'm gonna limit myself to playing one of my builds with a flashlight just in case

mighty fractal
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But if I want to avoid playing Lights Out, and instead want this HISTG Sycorax that's been on the board for a hot minute, I have to manually select it

rigid sky
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because stumbling around in the dark without a light is fucking miserable

mighty fractal
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which means filling the lobby will be slow because QP doesn't favor it

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Which means bots get murdered, which means the next person will spawn in on one wound and go down/die, and then people leave because they know QP will probably throw them into another mission...

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VT2 has the best of both worlds, where you can QP but also start your own lobbies or search for lobbies of maps you want to play. QP will toss players into your empty lobby, too!

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And if you just left an unpleasant lobby, you can avoid it by justs checking the lobby menu

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instead of being forced to hop back into QP while checking your Social tab to see if the game you just left filled or not, and hoping you don't get thrown back into the game with a lv 24 zealot trying to carry his lv15 psyker friend in HISTG

onyx sentinel