psyker-class

[feral verge]

get out of the psykhanium

[static needle]

I mean using a knife or DS is really really really good for psyker because of the movement potential and dmg they offer

[spice veldt]

(not this time)

i have hw to do

[feral verge]

touch grass (the cold hard metal floor)

of the habs

[lyric burrow]

In the psyk?

[spice veldt]

die

[feral verge]

there are no hi shocks rn anyway

alas

[lyric burrow]

That is so sad

[tulip kettle]

run the mael

[wet belfry]

Ye but easiest way to actually win in the game isnt to even bother fighting anything

Its just to skip them, run past them.

[tulip kettle]

im sure you wont see 6 mutants even once 🤡

[static needle]

xdd

[spice veldt]

mutants frrom the mutant wave take 2.5x more damage

[lyric burrow]

Yeah you kill waves muties on accident

It is a kill feed padder

[spice veldt]

and like if you want to gear for maniac specifically for a mode that spams mutants at you

sure

but i hope you see my reasoning as to why i simply do not care about +maniac on the ds4 otherwise

[tulip kettle]

yeah you explained and i said thats fine

you dont value 1 shotting muties

i do

[static needle]

dont work. dodge is too dang bad

just tryna find a weapon that can solo a plague ogryn that isnt knife or DS

[feral verge]

deimos

deimos with uncanny + executor

[static needle]

hmm yea maybe cause of the dmg

[spice veldt]

i certainly don't think that warranted a clown face when i was discussing a one-shot on normal mutants and wasn't referring to mutant wave

and when mutants from the mutant wave take 2.5x damage

[static needle]

not gonna run executor on deimos just for boss dmg

[lyric burrow]

Exe is fine otherwise too

[static needle]

id rather have uncanny for destroying crushers

[tulip kettle]

catachan swords

[feral verge]

i dont run it for just boss damage

[lyric burrow]

Youd run exe/uncanny

[tulip kettle]

make plogryn trivial

[feral verge]

executor is highly slept on

[static needle]

really?

[lyric burrow]

Your hitting heads in melee too

[feral verge]

yes

[lyric burrow]

On hordes

Or with h2

[feral verge]

this is coming from someone who has used deimos for a log time, with unstable power

i think executor is the way to go

[spice veldt]

long*

[lyric burrow]

Log

[feral verge]

i will destroy you

log

[static needle]

then you have nothing for hordes in terms of melee. Id way rather run at least slaughterer

[lyric burrow]

Its fine in hordes

[static needle]

not good enough when the shit hits the fan and ur surrounded by groaners

[dim parrot]

uncanny slaughterer my beloved

[static needle]

building it just for big dmg is legit overkill

[feral verge]

wat

why are you using deimos in hordes

deimos is best paired with purga, trauma

[static needle]

cause i want to be able to if i get cornered

[feral verge]

which destroy hordes

[static needle]

im doing gunpsyker

and getting very bored of just knife and DS

want something different

[lyric burrow]

Do you have assail

[tulip kettle]

devils claw mk 4

[static needle]

yes

[feral verge]

executor used in horde floats around 2-5 procs

stacks

whatever

[spice veldt]

stacks*

[static needle]

hmmm

[feral verge]

YOU WILL NOT SURVIVE ME

[lyric burrow]

But i think deimos is fine enough in hordes, i run a very similar build

[feral verge]

FUTURE ASH PILE

[lyric burrow]

To what your trying to run

[spice veldt]

OwO

[static needle]

wait does it have to be to the same target or just any target in chained attacks?

[torpid girder]

oh my god psyker has went from my least fun/least powerful class to one of my most fun and most powerful ever since i switched to a trauma build

[lyric burrow]

But you can also just assail

[feral verge]

any target so long as its hit in the head

[static needle]

huh

didnt know that

[lyric burrow]

You have problems

[spice veldt]

wha

mankar just said i would be a future ash pile

[feral verge]

using the special attack immediately stacks uncanny + executor 4x

[spice veldt]

how am i worse than him

[static needle]

truuu

[lyric burrow]

Mankar has not wronged me

[feral verge]

arcotash is wrong

and i will right him

[spice veldt]

in one of my first few games with him, he already attempted to blow me up with a barrel

(and failed miserably)

[dim parrot]

did he die himself

[feral verge]

it's because you guys tried barreling me

[lyric burrow]

I didnt give mankar a bad first impression

[feral verge]

and setn me into maximum overdrive

[spice veldt]

"you guys"

[feral verge]

sent

[spice veldt]

you mean josho

also it wasn't that game

it was one of the early ones where you were on revolver psyker and tried exploding a barrel near the finale of magistrati on me

you binch

[feral verge]

seems i struck a nerve

that you remember it so well

glad you have ptsd

[spice veldt]

i will strike you

[static needle]

does deimos want anticipation for fighting bosses solo?

[feral verge]

many have tried. and that many have failed. you will join their number

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/mZly7a @tulip kettle

[lyric burrow]

I dont run anticipation but you could

[static needle]

ew wtf is this off center hud layout 🤢

[lyric burrow]

Mankar you speak like a elder scrolls villian monologing

[spice veldt]

their peril is centered which is good nuff

[lyric burrow]

When you are insulting arco

[wind spruce]

It started when I was a trauma main

[spice veldt]

i know somebody here has their peril meter like in the bottom-right corner of their screen

[spice veldt]

LMAO

[feral verge]

it's apart of the mystique

[spice veldt]

understandable

[wind spruce]

I hate it tbh, but I love that others hate it more

[static needle]

hahah of course xDD

[lyric burrow]

Arcos used to be off center

I think

[spice veldt]

hmmm lemme thing

[wind spruce]

Ive been meaning to slim things down and centre them for a minute but i also cbf

[spice veldt]

i think i had some off-center elements but i tried to keep them roughly in the center

[feral verge]

arco is off center

off balance

he has no moral center, in fact

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/GKvBgj @tulip kettle no specialist damage for good measure

[spice veldt]

my morality is distributed around my body
morality is stored in the balls

[feral verge]

you have no balls

ball-less

[lyric burrow]

True

[spice veldt]

my baby's first ui in like january

[lyric burrow]

Arco

[spice veldt]

no wait that was march fuck

[lyric burrow]

Surely

You could have done better

[spice veldt]

you know what my excuse is

i was a trauma main

[lyric burrow]

And

[spice veldt]

i was a trauma main

[tulip kettle]

so as i thought then

try just... having high peril

[dim parrot]

and

[lyric burrow]

Your excuse will pass this time

[spice veldt]

you could also have +uncanny strike stacked to helpa long

[wind spruce]

Yeah you're right just have full warp charges and high peril all the time

Ez

[lyric burrow]

Uncanny increases damage a good amount

[tulip kettle]

you dont need both

high warp charges lowers the peril you need sure

DD also makes it easier

[wind spruce]

Thats in the video.

Full warp charges you need 35% peril (ish)

It's very achievable

Im just pointing out its not a given

Especially if you're switching straight to melee from ranged and dont have uncanny stacks

[spice veldt]

my UI in may (ignore the peril number being extremely small) (trauma main btw)

[wind spruce]

Which tbh is going to be 9/10 situations when you need to kill a mutant

[lyric burrow]

Why is your charge thing so wide

Is this an OwO thing

[spice veldt]

it's the helbore crosshair

i've only been enlightened to OwO in recent times by stan

[tulip kettle]

fair not gonna argue with that

[lyric burrow]

Picking things up off stan is bad practice you know

[tulip kettle]

but its generally pretty reliable

[spice veldt]

just a hater

[lyric burrow]

Im trying to help you arco

[feral verge]

arco is too far gone

there is no saving or helping "him"

[spice veldt]

we simply need to take the good parts of stan (1% of it) and remove the bad parts (99% of it)

[dim parrot]

xD

[lyric burrow]

I dont think OwO is the good part of stan

[spice veldt]

nuh uh

also wow he's said it a lot

i've only said it half as much as him

[lyric burrow]

I actually dont see him say it that much

Or i just miss it

[spice veldt]

prob just missing it

[lyric burrow]

Damn

Or i block it out

[spice veldt]

you're simply not attuned

[lyric burrow]

My OwO sensor doesnt work well i guess

[dim parrot]

thats a good thing right?

[spice veldt]

this is so tragic

[lyric burrow]

Id say so

But i spend enough time with arco now im sure ill pick it up

[tulip kettle]

huh

[lyric burrow]

Part of this plan

His evil ploy

[dim parrot]

part of stan's plan?

[lyric burrow]

Next ill be running his build

No arcos

Well maybe it is stan

[dim parrot]

lets be honest

[spice veldt]

you'll be OwOing on vet any time now

[dim parrot]

stan is the real mastermind

[lyric burrow]

Hes been playing us all along

Also arco shouldnt you be doing HW

[spice veldt]

uhhhh

nuuuh uh

[dim parrot]

aha!

gottem

[tulip kettle]

You dont need to headshot ragers to stagger them with DS

[lyric burrow]

Arco i recommend you do HW or youll end up like and put it off till the last second

[spice veldt]

scab ragers are easier to stagger so there could be something funky with dreg ragers

[lyric burrow]

And then someone will ask to play dt

And ill cave

[spice veldt]

xd

[tulip kettle]

i shall try again

[spice veldt]

i always do it at the last second cuz i'm the most motivated that way

and i'll just do it 1 hour before the deadline

gr8 strats

[dim parrot]

thats the way tho

[lyric burrow]

Im the most motivated but its like 2% motivation

Instead of 1

[dim parrot]

no but u dont understand

[lyric burrow]

Which is double

Huge value

[dim parrot]

the stress

[mighty fractal]

The purgatus of end-of-term assignments

Do 99% of it in the first week

Cram the cleanup into the last night before it’s due

“But what about the Crushers?”
“Don’t worry about them”

[tulip kettle]

Same for dregs it seems, no headshot required in combo or not

[lyric burrow]

Wow arco actually listened to me

[spice veldt]

huh neat

[dim parrot]

xD

[spice veldt]

no

[lyric burrow]

Nvm

He really is like me

[dim parrot]

good try

[spice veldt]

fr fr

[lyric burrow]

No cap

I would be a bad influence and ask if you wanted to play but i am at super bowl thing

[spice veldt]

play darktide on your phone

@dim parrot death

[lyric burrow]

If only

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-to-fight-death-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-prepared-for-battle-lets-fight-gif-25144560

[spice veldt]

just like me fr fr

grab a keyboard and mouse and use something like parsec to remote into your computer at home 😎

[tulip kettle]

down the testing rabbit hole

so

[spice veldt]

i've considered playing darktide on my phone through superdisplay just to fuck with people

[tulip kettle]

it seems + carapace makes no difference to the breakpoints for crushers

if you are also running uncanny

[lyric burrow]

"People"

I wonder who

[spice veldt]

neat, i suppose it's always a 3-shot?

[tulip kettle]

its 4 weakspots starting with no stacks of uncanny, 3 otherwise

for my sword, which is not 80/80/80

even 1 stack of uncanny makes it a 3 shot with or without carapace

[spice veldt]

the topic got brought up among josho and the others cuz they were remarking on a reddit comment where somebody said that they played on their android phone

[lyric burrow]

I do not trust redditors on there phones lol

I could see you doing some janky set up

Do you think your game would look better or worse

[spice veldt]

roughly the same

my game looks like playdough anyways

there are no fine details to notice being out of place because of the lower bitrate

[lyric burrow]

Too bad your inventory is still a bomb

[spice veldt]

so sad

[lyric burrow]

Even with that

My mourningstar is laggy but i dont crash

At least

[spice veldt]

i didn't do that much inventory management with my psyker until it was far far too late

i'd probably have to spend like 20 minutes deleting stuff in my inventory

[lyric burrow]

I do try to delete anything i dont need

And delete the 8 million things i just bought

[umbral storm]

so wahts the rundown of psyker weapons

[hollow current]

🤯

[spice veldt]

the force weapons are all p good in some way
preferentially use the deimos or illisi over the obscurus, which is worse than both and requires more work to make normal use of it because of cancelling being required for one of its combos

[tulip kettle]

first is without + cara second is with +25 cara

[spice veldt]

psyker has no warp single-target DPS that is comparable to guns, if you're looking for that sort of thing

[lyric burrow]

Voids close

Thats it tho

[umbral storm]

whats the best staff

[lyric burrow]

But dps wise it still loses out

[umbral storm]

im currently using the one with the book on its head number 6 something i think

[lyric burrow]

Void/trauma

[tulip kettle]

😄

[lyric burrow]

Imo

[limber silo]

Surge

[umbral storm]

idk just got my psyker to 30 today lol

[limber silo]

Not the best tbh

[umbral storm]

and do they share blessings ?

[lyric burrow]

No

[tulip kettle]

they are all good in their own way honestly, all good for diferent things and everyone has their own opinion

and no they dont share

[limber silo]

I'd say void is by far the most powerful, followed by trauma, then purge, then surge

[umbral storm]

rip

[tulip kettle]

surge and purg are considered weaker by most

but they are also stronger than the others in certain situations

so they all have a niche

[limber silo]

Surge struggles from lack of consistent breakpoints and lower than needed damage imo. Purge struggles from being a dot weapon. DOTs are almost always worse in higher health pool difficulties

[tulip kettle]

you can always use a staff to complement the rest of your kit, depending on what you need

purg is the best bar none vs large hordes of chaff

[spice veldt]

i consider purg fine cuz it scales with enemy density

and it's very braindead to use

[limber silo]

True

[umbral storm]

im pretty much planning to somewhat play as a smite support anyway atleast for now till iget better stuff

[tulip kettle]

😄

[limber silo]

I do like purge the most

[lyric burrow]

Yeah purg is really nice with the enemy density

And then add in combustion

[tulip kettle]

smyker

[spice veldt]

of course purg is depressing in a premade but for pubs i consider it comparable with the other two

[limber silo]

Some tips if you are gonna use smite. DON'T SMITE EVERYTHING

[tulip kettle]

its funny merick because once you have played more you will probably feel like everyone here and hate smite

[rigid sky]

Just check your team before you pick Purgatus

[tulip kettle]

but for starting out its very good

[limber silo]

Just smite large issue hordes like rager packs or maulers and crusher

[lyric burrow]

Mankar actually does decently with it

[rigid sky]

You really don't want to have double flamers

[spice veldt]

yeah purg is nice but i want them kills all for myself

[tulip kettle]

yup and dont bring purgatus without a blitz to deal with distant shooters

[umbral storm]

i mean i used to main* support in league so i guess im somewhat sick in the head anyway

[tulip kettle]

its just, this is not league

in this game

[umbral storm]

i know that much

[tulip kettle]

why hold everything still and do 0 dmg

when you could kill it all in the same time

[limber silo]

Fellow (former) league player detected, opinions INVALIDATED

[spice veldt]

there's a highly boutique support build that you can do on psyker involving trauma and the dclaw but i shall leave that for you to figure out

[rigid sky]

Emergency stabilisation is important too

[tulip kettle]

i mean, i have trauma

so IM fine

[rigid sky]

But less good than emergency prevention

[tulip kettle]

and fuck the other 3 blunts

[lyric burrow]

The secrets

[tulip kettle]

😄

[upper sun]

damn same that shit ruined us

[limber silo]

Honestly the best thing you can do to support your team is take cdr aura and use bubble

and maybe run trauma

[upper sun]

Leona psyker build demios vent purge staff with movement speed
run into hoard vent and die

[umbral storm]

tbh the main reason i like smite is that usually things go south when people get overrun by hordes

unironically lol

as long as my pokemons deal the damage anything else is pretty much fine haha

[tulip kettle]

getting overrun by hordes is not really a thing

[umbral storm]

i wish it wasnt

[feral verge]

i can still top damage/near top damage with it

[tulip kettle]

its specials and elites that end games

[feral verge]

in premades now

[limber silo]

It is if you're bad at the game

[upper sun]

simply kill the hoards

[rigid sky]

Specials and elites on top of hordes really

[tulip kettle]

hordes just die to a stiff breeze

[rigid sky]

It's pressure that kills you

[spice veldt]

i will venting shriek to steal your stacks

[upper sun]

a force push will knock out 50% of the hoard

[tulip kettle]

why make them dance for 10 seconds waiting for your bots to kill stuff

when you could kill them in half the time with any of the staffs

except maybe surge

[upper sun]

bold of you to assume that my bots arent collecting plasteel 24/7 or doing their own thing

[rigid sky]

As if you would run a Surge without an Illisi or similar

[umbral storm]

so what blessings am ilooking for on a staff

warp flurry ?

[feral verge]

what staff

[rigid sky]

Which staff

[umbral storm]

uhh voidstrike / surge

[tulip kettle]

as if you would run surge * fixed it for you

[feral verge]

different staves have different preferred blessings

[umbral storm]

got 2 of those rn

[tulip kettle]

voidstrike, for sdtarting out

i would reccomend flurry and transfer

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike has 3 paths

[tulip kettle]

charge it up and shoot it at head height

quell all your peril

[feral verge]

staves do not share blessing pools btw, if you didnt know

[rigid sky]

Flurry/transfer is safe antihorde

Flurry/nexus is hybrid

[tulip kettle]

once you get more advanced you can look into a nexus / surge blessing build

[feral verge]

warp flurry found a voidstrike will not unlock warp flurry on trauma staff

[rigid sky]

Nexus/surge is antielite but still good for hordes

[tulip kettle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[rigid sky]

Surge staff just wants nexus/flurry

Purgatus too

[tulip kettle]

take your time and work your way through this

there are builds for each staff, showing the stat rolls perks and blessings you want

with an explanation for why

[rigid sky]

And trauma wants either blazing spirit/nexus or flurry/Rending shockwave

[upper sun]

if the guide is too much just read the talents and the weapons you have at a high rating

[rigid sky]

It's a good starting point

[upper sun]

vet has a video guide for the talents which is really good

[rigid sky]

I somewhat question how it evaluates some melee blessings iirc

Shred is not a top 2 blessing for DS4

[tulip kettle]

yeah those are always personal choice to an extent

i mean

[rigid sky]

I cannot be convinced otherwise

[tulip kettle]

it kinda is

on a gunker DD build

[umbral storm]

zzzzz time for some plasteel / money grind sometimes i really love this gacha game x)

[upper sun]

the blessings on melee are more balanced than on staves

[tulip kettle]

its more like, the blessings on psyker melee is braindead

[rigid sky]

I wouldn't run DS4 with a gun personally

[upper sun]

gotcha games give you good pity roles after a while this game doesnt

[tulip kettle]

uncanny + your choice

[rigid sky]

Although I accept it is nice to have a Crusher slayer

[feral verge]

i really like shred

[umbral storm]

true

[feral verge]

because of the synergy with crit feats

toughness on crit, ignore ranged on crit, movement speed on crit

too much good to pass up on

especially on gunker, where toughness economy is lower

[tulip kettle]

yup plus the increased crit rate from the right side of the tree

[rigid sky]

I would prefer Riposte, since most of the time you aren't stabbing more than once or twice anyway

[tulip kettle]

thats a valid personal choice

[rigid sky]

I don't dispute the crit part

I dispute how it stacks

[tulip kettle]

i too prefer riposte over shred but theres arguments to be made

same for precog

the general rule is, take uncanny

then it doesnt matter

[rigid sky]

It's why slaughterer is great on Illisi but bad on Deimos

Well not bad

Just not top

[tulip kettle]

turns out with uncanny, + cara does nothing on DS

i posted some tests above

bit surprising, for me at least

[rigid sky]

Actually

Does uncanny work on first poke?

[tulip kettle]

nope

[rigid sky]

Ew

[tulip kettle]

thats why it doesnt matter

[feral verge]

uncanny bad

case closed

[rigid sky]

Well Crushers need a few anyway

[tulip kettle]

with or without + 25 cara

[rigid sky]

So that's different

[tulip kettle]

its 4 hits to kill a crusher with no uncanny stacks start

[rigid sky]

But that does also boost shred

Hm

[umbral storm]

oh well this is what im gonna be working with for now but maybe im just gonna grind out materials and money on my vet instead

[tulip kettle]

3 hits if you have an uncanny stack

[rigid sky]

Was thinking too much about mutants

Since my DS4 builds usually can brain rupture crushers

[umbral storm]

time to hit the plasteel hell grind

[tulip kettle]

that illisi is very good dude

[rigid sky]

Grind some damnation and it'll be done before you know it

[tulip kettle]

change the +carapace to + flak

[feral verge]

i uniornically like carapace on illisi

[hollow current]

I KNEW IT

[tulip kettle]

then sit on the other change until later

[feral verge]

carapace is the only weakness of the illisi

[rigid sky]

That Voidstrike isn't perfect but it'll do to begin

[dim parrot]

thank u mankar

[hollow current]

tongue in cheek. it problably would do something with scriers and DD stacks. it just never feels worth it tho

[rigid sky]

I would upgrade a different one

[dim parrot]

u making me feel good about my illisi

wanted flak but got carapace

[tulip kettle]

that voidstrike is a brick tbh but its fine if u have nothing better, because its a voidstrike.

[feral verge]

uncanny + carapace on illisi gets it one step closer to mk6 power sword

[rigid sky]

My illisi is stuck with Bloodthirsty :)

It gets me killed all the time on my gunker because I feel sad not getting the value from it

[umbral storm]

i kinda like the surge staff ngl

but if its that bad x)

[spice veldt]

one day the psword will get uncanny strike

[tulip kettle]

i mean, theres MAYBE a niche case, where you can 3 hit the crusher without any uncanny stacks

[rigid sky]

So I go spooky slice during SG25

And explode

[tulip kettle]

but is that really worth it? i think not

[feral verge]

perks are bad

[umbral storm]

ik

[dim parrot]

otherwise its quite nice

[tulip kettle]

its fine for now though

its a good one to see how you like it

but i think surge is poop

and theres always better options

[umbral storm]

just wanted something to jump into aurics without being completely gimped

[tulip kettle]

its liked by people who cant click on heads

[rigid sky]

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US

[tulip kettle]

lol dude, please dont play auric

if you just hit lvl 30 and dont understand the class at all

[rigid sky]

I was getting shat on for saying that earlier

I don't like the morning meta here

I agree with you night people more

[feral verge]

i wish there was a way to filter out fresh level 30s

have them complete idk 50 regular damnation games

before unlocking auric

[rigid sky]

Bit much

[feral verge]

because so many come into auric, thinking they are ready

[tulip kettle]

just require the penance for completing one of each mission on damnation on the class.

[rigid sky]

But that's the fun part

[hollow current]

I got some funny testing clips though

[feral verge]

not always

[rigid sky]

More reasonable. Add a few more investigation and repair missions though

[tulip kettle]

yeah until like earlier i had a lvl 32 and his lvl 19 buddy in my HI5STG

[rigid sky]

Sometimes the mission board lacks mercy

[feral verge]

sometimes i dont feel like carrying or clutching

[tulip kettle]

went down 7 times before the first airlock on dreyko

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoGyvFNghLQ

[rigid sky]

I don't mind losing so long as everybody is genuinely trying tbh

[tulip kettle]

its not really okay

[feral verge]

this is me and josho playing hishock

[spice veldt]

i don't the requirements will ever be perfect anyways

[umbral storm]

completed more than enough on my vet tbh

[spice veldt]

i'm fine with how things are

[feral verge]

woth a level 44 knife zealot and his level 27 psyker friend

[spice veldt]

and it's just the nature of public matchmaking

i'd play premades if i wanted guaranteed good games

[feral verge]

the knife zealot kept on running ahead and dying, aggroing half the map

[lyric burrow]

Classic

[feral verge]

so josho and i let him die

and kept him and his buddy dead for almost the whole game

while we duo'd

forced them to watch

[lyric burrow]

Sometimes i think i have bad randoms luck

Then i hear this

[rigid sky]

Not really a fan of that sentiment but ok

I can't watch anything atm

Overextension does happen. I hope in their case it was incessant and reckless at least.

If the zealot was rushing off to target shit that hadn't even aggroed yet while you were already in combat then yeah fuck 'em

[feral verge]

it very much was

ask @lunar hollow

[lyric burrow]

Its rare that its easier without someone cause an extra body usually helps

This would be an exception

[feral verge]

we wern't rezing them to be dicks

it was because they were hurting the team

[rigid sky]

You don't usually come across as unreasonable tbf

[feral verge]

so they were better off dead

atleast the zealot was

[umbral storm]

to be honest as long as people try to be teamplayers i couldnt care less what they do

[rigid sky]

So I kinda trust your word on this now that I think about it

[umbral storm]

cause sadly in darktide it seems like people rarely try to play as a team

[feral verge]

the psyker wasnt really pushing ahead, just new and as a result ,reasonably bad

[spice veldt]

my only criteria is that they stay alive cuz they'll take aggro that way

[rigid sky]

Sometimes people just have shit games too

[feral verge]

but we couldnt rez the psyker, cuz he wouldve rez'd his zealot buddy

[tulip kettle]

yeah watching it, all i can think is

[lapis violet]

good setup for surge staff?

[rigid sky]

Had a game earlier where I blew myself up 4 times because I managed to go on tilt

[tulip kettle]

they didnt get punished at all

[rigid sky]

Next game, same build, I carried

[tulip kettle]

they got their xp and dockets

and got to go make a snack

[mighty fractal]

Oh man

Sycorax is prime material for punishing rushers

[lyric burrow]

Yeah mankar isnt really a dick to be a dick

[tulip kettle]

and dude, idc how many you done on your vet

[rigid sky]

OK, you go spectate for 45 minutes when you wanted to play then

[feral verge]

i was hoping to make them think

especially the knife zealot

[mighty fractal]

the map is so linear and has so many choke points

[rigid sky]

It is a punishment

[tulip kettle]

you dont know how your class works at a basic lvl

you are not ready for auric lvl 30 or no.

[mighty fractal]

It’s very easy for people who can’t pace to get themselves into oopsie situations on that map

[tulip kettle]

dude, they went and made a snack

had a smoke

came back to free win

[rigid sky]

Maybe just because I'm resource flush

[feral verge]

we rez'd them for the finale

[tulip kettle]

he typed in chat he just wanted the xp

[rigid sky]

But I would rather lose 5 fun games than sit through a 45 minute win without any chance to interact

[tulip kettle]

theres nothing you can do except what you did

they werent there to play in makars vid above

[rigid sky]

Fair enough.

[tulip kettle]

they explicitly said they there to leach free xp from the carry

sad af

[rigid sky]

Like the game I had today was one of my favourites I ever did and we lost in the midevent on Mercantile

Because Nurgle himself had control of the director

[hollow current]

I've practicing the art of killing my character when I find myself in the odd game where everyone is shit and I'm the last person alive.

[tulip kettle]

man im trash at this game and lose all the time

[hollow current]

Just yeet myself off into the abyss.

[rigid sky]

Perfect control of the medicae between 2 Bombers, 2 chaos spawns and a BoN

[tulip kettle]

but as long as everyone is pulling their weight in some way its fine

if your epulling the enxt 3 rooms worth of aggro then dying to go make a snack

you deserve nothing

[hollow current]

The carry gets to throw the game. That's the only rule.

[tulip kettle]

i always try to clutch out of spite

because its the best adrenaline dump in the game when you do it

and know the 3 chumps just saw how the game is actually played

one time i got "fatshark says zealots are actually killable, honest" in the chat

feelsgoodman

DC4 and +3 stam go brrrrrr

[rigid sky]

When I fuck up I try to at least do the right thing and properly fluff the stud that ends up having to carry us

Cradle the balls a little

Finger gently up the etc

[hollow current]

I mean playing to win normally how it goes for 19/20 games. Then I get one where I just go "fuck this" and leave if I have enough foresight or kill myself when it's the end because I know we won't make it through.

[rotund fable]

So... I think i like having the knife on my "Discount-Palpatine" build (Surge-Smite-Shriek) now that I've given it a try... Mainly because "Swap to knife after smiting a horde, then dodge backwards/sideways to make room" seems to be pretty good.

But I've only used it for 6 missions, and it probably needs a bit more testing on my part.

[feral verge]

I dislike knife stylistically, so I don't use it. But that's the only reason to use knife on psyker, really. For style/taste reasons

Dueling sword will out perform it in every metric, except mobility, and even then it's a fairly close race

Dueling sword has better single target dps, way better horde clear, while only being a little bit less mobile than knife

[rigid sky]

Also swankier

[feral verge]

Dueling sword has swag yeah

Knife just goofy

[rigid sky]

The way the psyker holds it

Like he's better than you, and you know it

[hollow current]

female savant IS better than everyone.

Has anyone ever mined out all the voice lines or whatever?

I remember it happening with VT2 but it seems like with the different interactions it'd be more tedius/difficult for DT.

[feral verge]

Female savant is the normie simp pick

[hollow current]

Yeah, what of it?

[mighty fractal]

Savant has some good lines which you dont hear that often

[wind spruce]

Is savant the cop

"Enforcer"

[mighty fractal]

where they show that they’re not just concerned with protocol and are actually pretty caring, but are struggling to overcome their past

Yeah

I can’t play as Savant though

Too much monotone screaming

[wind spruce]

Ok yeah dats mine

Definitely over it and didn't know what I was getting into 14 months ago lmao

[mighty fractal]

If only we could change names and personalities

Apparently we can’t change character names because it messes up something in the back end with how the game saves and retrieves your characters

At least according to a FS dev lol

Think they posted that on Reddit way back at release

[feral verge]

Female loner forever

Has great lines, doesn't get grating like male loner over time

[mighty fractal]

Loner has the best lines

Fem loner is by far the most tolerable and even enjoyable

she is a smug little gremlin and that’s fine

[elder glade]

Female loners unite

[mighty fractal]

My psyker is almost minimum height

I literally walk under snipers and dog pounces sometimes

[elder glade]

Time to make my psyker minimum height now

[mighty fractal]

It has its advantages

My vet is tall though

Makes it slightly easier to click heads in big crowds

[pastel leaf]

am i not able to post pics in this?

[elder glade]

My vet is slightly below average

[lyric burrow]

I think i run savant

Thats the officer one or w/e right

[mighty fractal]

Savant = PROTOCOL
Loner = by my incomparable mind
Seer = My beloved

[spice veldt]

you need a certain amount of "activity" (i think time spent or messages posted) before you get image perms (red name)

[lyric burrow]

Ok yeah i run savant

[pastel leaf]

ahh thank you

then ill just ask what are good blessings fore a trauma force staff

[mighty fractal]

there is nothing my incomparable mine cannot achieve

https://tenor.com/view/himari-gif-27137784

[elder glade]

I legitimately made lenin for my vet

[lyric burrow]

Rending shockwave/warp flurry or blazing spirit/nexus

[mighty fractal]

^

[little rapids]

try both

[mighty fractal]

You could also be boring and run Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry

[pastel leaf]

what makes that boring haha my staff came like that

[mighty fractal]

Rending Shockwave build is better for bullying armored elites

Blazing Spirit is better against DT horde because it effectively extends the damage radius of your explosion

[mighty fractal]

It just doesn’t have the cool utility of the other two. It’s perfectly fine though

sosu

[sullen sphinx]

You can be a bit silly and run Blazing Spirit + Warp Flurry

[mighty fractal]

Or Shockwave and Blazing!

[little rapids]

yeah id prefer that to nexus and flurry

[pastel leaf]

❤️

gotvcha ill try blazing'

what about perks i got unyielding and damge to elites

[mighty fractal]

There are some weirdo builds where you run blazing spirit, rending shockwave, and then switch to a melee with some form of Rending to boost your burn damage against armor

Blazing is the prettiest

[spice veldt]

true aim enjoyers eating good

[mighty fractal]

You want crit chance and flak on a blazing

[mighty fractal]

😤

The brief time I ran Smite was when Smite would rapidly build True Aim stacks

For the guaranteed crit

https://tenor.com/view/faputa-made-in-abyss-sleep-sleeping-gif-25175702

[pastel leaf]

does it not build stacks anymore?

[spice veldt]

it always hits bodyshots now

well, it originally hit bodyshots

then they made a patch that seemed to have only intended for a cosmetic change but resulted in smite/surge hitting random bodyparts, including the head

and it was during this period that it could build true aim stacks cuz headshots

[pastel leaf]

oh so smite sucks again then

well at least i think so

[spice veldt]

😔

i consider it a strong blitz

i also consider it extremely boring and i hate its design

[little rapids]

the best blitz is the one that makes you happy

so if you think it scuks then yeah it sukcs

i think brain burst sucks huge

[sullen sphinx]

Yea, it has great utility if you're using it right

[pastel leaf]

i feel like all the blitz are underwhelming rn a good staff will do what they do and are more versatile cus i could just kill hordes with voidstrike instead of just freezing it

[mighty fractal]

Smite’s great for stunning elite patrols and stopping disablers mixed into hordes

But it’s often misused

[pastel leaf]

smite has good moments though

[spice veldt]

at least voidstrike will genuinely have trouble with bulwarks/crushers packs cuz they do stop the ball

[mighty fractal]

A lot of people like to channel it for like 20 seconds straight while doing not much if anything

[sullen sphinx]

If you release it early it will push your targets so it's great just to tap it to push stuff and kill it while they are down

[mighty fractal]

^

[elder glade]

Pure smite psyker's make me lose hope in humanity

[mighty fractal]

Theres a funny smite + shriek build that people like to use as well

But I think it’s sleepy

[spice veldt]

i am seething when i hit tab and see that they have purg but continue to smite a pure horde

[pastel leaf]

haha bruh that sounds terrible havent encountered that

[lyric burrow]

New build idea

[spice veldt]

i will kill you

[elder glade]

Please don't

[lyric burrow]

🙂

[elder glade]

[mighty fractal]

Join game
Two Smite + Purge Psykers
Both are using male loner
Leave game

[vocal cliff]

That's mean arco

[lyric burrow]

Ill run venting shriek so i can smite for longer

[sullen sphinx]

We need more deranged and fun builds

[lyric burrow]

Thank you for being on my side luna

[spice veldt]

if i can get away with murder with just a "that's mean", i see that as a fair tradeoff then

[pastel leaf]

also has anyone been seeing aimbotters often now i got 2 in like the last 10 games its pretty cringe we ended up kicking both at the end of the match

[vocal cliff]

Shitty Staff melee only

[lyric burrow]

I want a melee staff

Idk how it would work

Cause its a ranged wep

[sullen sphinx]

Bonkamancer Psyker incoming

[spice veldt]

magic sword staff

[mighty fractal]

There’s a Biomancy spell in lore called Hammerhand

[vocal cliff]

Maybe something that turns it into a magic jav

[lyric burrow]

Yeah

Spectral sword or something

[spice veldt]

psyker being the one to get effectively two melees will make me extremely happy

or three if we get to rework smite into something cool

[vocal cliff]

That can be used to throw with limited ammo via the special

[spice veldt]

i want the triple melee psyker build to be real

[vocal cliff]

I am basically describing a certain elf's weapon

[lyric burrow]

Yes

[sullen sphinx]

They should bring FF damage just for that weapon alone

[lyric burrow]

Give me oops all melee on psyker

[spice veldt]

GOD i REALLY want it

if we can't have melee talents, then you better fuckin give us this at least

[vocal cliff]

Give it the ability to hurt your teamates too because it'll be funny

Create the two kinds of elves but with psykers

[mighty fractal]

Hammerhand probably wouldn't be a staff, but I could see it being like Sienna's fire sword from Vermintide

[lyric burrow]

Please no

[spice veldt]

you will be my first victim

[lyric burrow]

I wouldnt make it 5 mins with arco

[mighty fractal]

Where your heavy attacks or the special activation would turn your fists into steel, and then you'd punch super hard

I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS MY BELOVED

[lyric burrow]

Wow after everything mankar has done to you

[mighty fractal]

punches a Crusher's head off

[lyric burrow]

Im first

[spice veldt]

he will be next

[vocal cliff]

Don't worry he'll end up blowing up from being distracted by blood lust

[lyric burrow]

TRUE

[mighty fractal]

I just want Sienna's fire dagger to come back as a force dagger

[spice veldt]

that's what venting shriek is for

[lyric burrow]

this is why lunas my favorite

[spice veldt]

i was only 0.1ms close to dying frrom venting shriek not being off cooldown the last game we had

[lyric burrow]

Josho called you out for that one

[vocal cliff]

Skill issue by the games code

[sullen sphinx]

I'm the Ogryn now, where are my rations, this INCOMPARABLE MIND is hungry

[spice veldt]

that hawkeyed mf

[mighty fractal]

On that note, I'd love Ogryn to get some power gauntlets

or at least some knuckles

[lyric burrow]

"I hate psyker"
Also josho: i noticed that was a late shriek did you almost die

Like bruh ive played more psyker than josho and i didnt notice that 😭

Granted I don't run shriek

[spice veldt]

might've been the voiceline

or the subtle sound that plays when a psyker enters PotW

there's the unique muffled noise that plays

[mighty fractal]

and the voices

Has anyone tried to figure out what those voices are saying

[vocal cliff]

They get quite loud

No

Been trying tho

[lyric burrow]

I recognize the blow up sound

[mighty fractal]

You can make out individual words sometimes

but nothing coherent

[lyric burrow]

Which sucks cause i cant make an excuse when i do

They know what it sounds like

[mighty fractal]

Yeah whenever I hear a Psyker on my team make a noise or say something that I don't recognize

I know to run over to them and hold E where they're standing

[lyric burrow]

Then arco tee bags me

[spice veldt]

it was only once

just a smidge of tbagging

[lyric burrow]

It was more than once you fucker

[spice veldt]

alright twice

a few small dips

[lyric burrow]

Thats literally double the amount you said

[spice veldt]

well we don't need to be so pedantic...

[lyric burrow]

You even ran back for one

Went out of your way

[vocal cliff]

Arco after not trolling for 2 seconds:

[spice veldt]

i dropped my ring and i had to exercise my glutes to find it

[lyric burrow]

Uh huh

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/dbmvnl

[lyric burrow]

Oh my god you clipped it

[spice veldt]

OwO

[lyric burrow]

Im starting to understand mankar

Note chat confirming arco bad and missing burster push

[spice veldt]

do not note that

[mighty cipher]

Did they mess up the spawns again?

Ive been getting a TON of missions where the team wont run into a single rager for the entire thing until the director decides to spawn only ragers for the rest of the mission

[pastel leaf]

the model quality is so low haha it looks funny

[hot agate]

i schleep

[latent hill]

Say

What version of the columnus is better?

Headhunter or braced?

[hollow current]

psyker doesn't get braced, so.

[hushed haven]

so to get psyker masks i gotta go without a shield as my f right

[latent hill]

Oh…. Whoops

[hollow current]

Blesed by fate? Yeah just get a buddy to make a private match and go past 100% and then use your vent 50 times.

Or you can play normally I suppose.

[hexed geyser]

Just play normally but get to 100% everytime you can

[hushed haven]

I guess if difficulty doesn't matter I can just go at the lower ones to get it faster

[hexed geyser]

It just gets done before the other penance, no point rushing it

[wet belfry]

Kinetic flayer may actually be slightly underrated in utility.

[hollow current]

private match is more of a one and one type thing if you dont care to use shriek/wrath

[hushed haven]

it's pre good with assail ngl

[wet belfry]

Its not too hard to proc on ideal targets with staff lmb

[hushed haven]

it's just that i'm a glass cannon basically

[wet belfry]

Espically considering staff lmb throws out 3 projectiles per second.

It turns the staff from basically not being able to kill mutants before it reaches the player to killing them.

[fresh reef]

Kinetic flayer doesn't exist with assail

It's a BB upgrade lmao

[little rapids]

bro its tech

u wouldnt get it

[fresh reef]

Clearly

Nearly level 500 on Psyker and I'm still such a noob smh

[fresh reef]

Gonna make this a reality

[wet belfry]

Or you can just use the regular blaze build.

[fresh reef]

Yeah but that isn't nearly as funny

[wet belfry]

It already gives lmb soulblaze, extra crits.

Im fairly certain LMB outdamages some of the guns in the game.

Probably depends on target, it has a poor kill rate on unyielding.

High flak damage.

[mighty fractal]

On unarmored and flak, staff LMB damage is actually pretty neat once you start stacking damage modifiers like Perfect Timing and Warp Rider

the suppression and stagger on it is high, too

So you can use it to bully gunners and the like

Void is a better staff for Surge builds, though

[lethal lagoon]

I believe in you.

[little rapids]

why surge on trauma

i dont get it

[vocal cliff]

If I ever saw a psyker with that build I'd cry

In joy

[little rapids]

for the lmb?

[vocal cliff]

Yes

I find it amusing its even on trauma to begin with

[lyric burrow]

yeah i almost wonder if it was meant to work at first on like a different version of trauma RMB

since it would be kind of absurd on current trauma

[vocal cliff]

I like the concept of surge and wish trauma got its own version in the mix of a double shockwave that pulses

[lyric burrow]

yeah its a neat concept

its like a little "crit just make you do thing better" but i dont mind that one as much

[vocal cliff]

I like ones that have it activate at a threshold

Feels more consistent

Not anything that's too absurd thon

[half iron]

doing a crit with the trauma should turn the user, and the user’s user, into a limbless boneless flesh biomass without a mouth

[vocal cliff]

Or anything that's too quick

Uh

Hideous Mass

[lyric burrow]

when you get even luna to say uh you fucked up

[vocal cliff]

Why specifically without a mouth

[half iron]

i said so

[vocal cliff]

Says who

[half iron]

me. john fatshark, ceo of fatshark

[vocal cliff]

Oh ok

[hushed haven]

sorry i meant venting shriek i misspoke

you could still get it from context tbh

[fresh reef]

Unless you're running raw damage shriek (don't) it doesn't proc Flayer

[hushed haven]

it allows me to do two penances at once and they're the two i need
staff gives brain ruptures (i use voidstrike rmb) so I do the prioritise targets
and quells after 100% peril give me blessed by the fate
so i get masks

[tacit bobcat]

bro got them m&b warband graphics wut daa heeeeeeeell

[lunar hollow]

i am trained to listen for the perils scream by 5 wound pub psykers

if it's planned the shriek is immediate

it was not planned

the shriek was delayed

[sullen sphinx]

Not a big fan of that penance, it teaches your bad habit of relying on shriek to stay alive.

[torpid girder]

parry the harpoon

[radiant frigate]

guilty as charged

[zealous vapor]

Trying out psyjer but they feel so weak. Advice on what to run?

[radiant frigate]

psyker is very build dependent

it will feel weak early

i'd say run surge or voidstrike

• illisi force sword for melee

devil's claw or obscurus for the early levels

there is also the elusive Gun Psyker that you can try, which does fine

[zealous vapor]

Are these the powers?

[radiant frigate]

these are staff options for your ranged slot

equinox something something voidstrike force staff
nomanus mk VI surge force staff

they both have little uncharged bolts you can throw at people, and different charged attacks

voidstrike charges up a big projectile that has a ridiculous amount of pierce

surge has a fast-charging mini chain lightning

mostly 1-2 targets but does good damage to them and controls them effectively

both pretty simple to use

[torpid girder]

Personally i couldn't get psyker to click either until I tried out a soulblaze trauma force staff with the duelling sword mk4 and brain burst but it might depend on your playstyle

[radiant frigate]

also that

ask three people how they like to play psyker, get 5 different answers

[near wyvern]

Psyker is weak in the beginning. Your best bet is to run with Assail + guns until lvl 20-25. At that point you can switch to Purgatus staff. Other staves are not worth it until lvl 30 since they tend to get penalties (negative stat modifiers) on low stat rolls.

When you hit 30 the talent tree really starts to scale and you can become an absolute monster. Remember that most staves are a lot of CC combined with some damage, so you may not top the damage meters but that CC with capable damage has a lot of carry and clutch potential

[radiant frigate]

"may not top damage meters"?

i find that hard to believe

[near wyvern]

Ever seen a proper kickback ogryn?

GL keeping up with that

[radiant frigate]

no and i prefer not to see ogryns

[near wyvern]

If you are topping damage meters on a psyker it doesn't mean your build is pulling out huge DPS. It means the other dudes in your team are either lacking from their build or skills.

[radiant frigate]

so you're saying that I'm not topping because i run a broken build, but because everyone else is lacking?

[zealous vapor]

I don't understand the appeal of brain bust, as usually by the tike the skill goes off my teammate has already shot the elite

[radiant frigate]

it's situationally good

like when a trapper runs off around a corner

[urban sandal]

specialists, ogryns and bosses

[radiant frigate]

but you tagged them with brain burst so they die

and yes good on ogryn elites and bosses

[near wyvern]

Yes. Don't get it wrong, Psykers deal amazing DPS with the amount of CC and utility they bring to the table and you can easily clutch and carry as a psyker because of that.

[radiant frigate]

hm

[near wyvern]

This becomes more apparent on Auric Maelstrom missions

[radiant frigate]

i was convinced that what I'm running must be insane because the other option is "skill difference" and i do not consider myself all that proficient

[hollow current]

random aurics/maelstroms I top the green circles. But plasma vets and kickback ogryns do make it a 50/50 if they're good. They don't do a whole lot better tho

[radiant frigate]

plasma is indeed a contender

[near wyvern]

Plasma vet is not the best DPS build but that does kill all elites and specials in a blink so it has its place

[hollow current]

If they just left click spam and never touch melee while eating all the ammo they're hard to compete with.

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[near wyvern]

And the fact that a Psyker can somewhat compete with that without taking any ammo while applying CC is amazing

[radiant frigate]

clearly they must both be balanced classes

[near wyvern]

It doesn't matter if you are chugging ammo if the team is advancing fast. If the team doesn't advance fast then it becomes a problem.

[hollow current]

Usually if the ogryn or vet goes gamer hard like that I just clean up the edges and let them do most of the work since they're clearly frisky for it.

[torpid girder]

It's cuz with trauma and shriek/duelling sword the only real struggle is when there's like a gunner or sniper 70 meters away and it's out of ur range
but ig u could probably accomplish the same with assail? I haven't tried it with my build

[hollow current]

Can't target super far with Assail. But it does seem to reach far enough for most cases.

[torpid girder]

ohhh that makes sense

[spice veldt]

if the values haven't changed since assail was nerfed, then the LMB should have a lifetime of 2.5s and the RMB a lifetime of 3s (and a maximum lockon range of 50m)

[torpid girder]

Ohhh, guess I won't switch off of brain burst then Lol

[spice veldt]

🥲

[elder glade]

You can do the same thing with assail. Only thing is that it will get caught on the environment or it might not hit the head even if you threw it optimally (ricochet it off the ground or chucked it just above the head). You'll probably still need more than one assail chuck for certain targets too.

Brain burst also only needs the target to be exposed for not even a fraction of a second to lock on to them and guarantee a hit. For the majority of targets brain burst counts as a weakspot hit as well.

I can't think of anything else tbh

[hollow current]

I just whip out the las pistol when assail can't reach them.

[spice veldt]

i haven't had trouble with using assail on far targets besides an extreme case like consignment yard where i chuck out LMB bolts

i personally can not stand using brain burst

[elder glade]

The only time I've ever had some degree of fun with brain burst was when I was running EP with it

That's pretty much it

[ornate hamlet]

Okay, hear me out...

The Gun Psyker Sword.

[hollow current]

This was a kickback ogryn from a few weeks ago. Don't really run into them much but you can see he did 10-20% more damage depending on which is more accurate.

[radiant frigate]

a classic case of "2 people kill everything and the other 2 are just along for the ride"

[hollow current]

That does seem to be the case a good part of the time.

[onyx sentinel]

almost lost a run because director decided to spawn 4 blessed crushers on top of us

[urban sandal]

If I saw 4 blessed ragers coming at me I'd just roll over and cry

[radiant frigate]

am i missing out because i don't play maelstrom?

[elder glade]

It's a fun experience

So yea, I would say you are missing out

[urban sandal]

yes

[radiant frigate]

i remember one maelstrom experience

"mostly shooters" with 3 bubble psykers

least engaging experience of my life

and then half the time got downed by 2-3 crushers

[urban sandal]

god I hate mostly ranged maelstrom

[radiant frigate]

shooting so long they forgot what melee is

[urban sandal]

mostly melee though

that shit's great for psyker

[onyx sentinel]

mostly ranged maelstrom is just 1 vet with executioner's stance killing everything before everyone else

especially yesterday's maelstrom with ventilation purge

has this set been on the shop yet? been waiting for a while

[hollow current]

The chest piece for sure. dunno about the leggie

[vestal fulcrum]

The upper and lower body - yes

[rigid sky]

Best maelstrom is 1 2 veg

Or really anything with monstrous specials

[sullen sphinx]

They need to add more fun modifiers

[wind spruce]

The regular scoreboard mod over inflates damage, I posted a video demonstrating it awhile ago

I oneshotted twenty 500 health enemies, ovenproofs showed 10k damage and the regular scoreboard mod calculated about 14k

[hearty zephyr]

I started pysker recently and i have been having a pretty bad time. Is this normal?

Or am i just weird/stupid cause the same thing happened when i was playing sienna in Vermintide 2?

[sullen sphinx]

That's normal, Psyker is a bit tricky and squishy class. Just find your favorite playstyle and stick to it

[vestal fulcrum]

So, what are you struggling with?

[rigid sky]

Psyker staves are kinda crappy at low stat points, compared with guns

[urban sandal]

experiment with weapons/blitzes/abilities until you find ones that you enjoy playing with

[rigid sky]

The usual advice is to lean on Assail until you are like 25

[sullen sphinx]

The main problem with Assail is that it's so good on lower difficulties, so you won't learn much and it'll be very hard to adapt to Damnation runs

[rigid sky]

True that

[urban sandal]

my psyker is like level 220 and I've only ever used bb

[radiant frigate]

I'm at +154

i have used them all but probably 95% BB

easily my favorite of the bunch

[rigid sky]

I am mostly playing gunker atm

I gotta say SG/DD assail is craY

Crazy

[elder glade]

Yes, join the Gunker side of life

[radiant frigate]

no I'm part of the melee psyker faction

[rigid sky]

Gunker does melee too

More than any of the staff variants

[elder glade]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[radiant frigate]

not this staff variant

[rigid sky]

SG/DD makes your melee crazy too

[rigid sky]

Bi flag cat wooooo

[sullen sphinx]

Who need melee when you can blast everything with Trauma

[rich spindle]

can you guys run scriers gaze on auric

[elder glade]

Yep

[rich spindle]

not enough toughness regen for me

[radiant frigate]

this is why i don't run trauma

i want to melee

[elder glade]

On a scale of 1 to melee, how much do you melee?

[rigid sky]

Fuck yeah you can

It's mostly a toy for gunker

[spice veldt]

back in patch 12 and before, i only brought trauma for melee patrols and just kept it in my back pocket as i mainly used BB + illisi

[rigid sky]

Since it's dangerous to use a staff with SG

[radiant frigate]

about 8 but i wish it was melee

[rigid sky]

But it's so good for gunker

[sullen sphinx]

"Does bonking with staff count as melee?" / melee

[rich spindle]

maybe im meleeing too much with SG. I feel like if I mess up once I take way too much damaage

[lunar hollow]

the good ole days

[spice veldt]

back in my day...

[hearty zephyr]

Kinda feeling that all my weapons are pretty crap

I guess the hand lightning is cool, but my staff is not so useful

[rigid sky]

Assail should be your main primary with it

Then a horde clear melee and a gun

[rich spindle]

do you use assail while SG is active?

[rigid sky]

Yes

[rich spindle]

:o

[rigid sky]

It is safe for the first 10 stacks or so and crazy powerful

You can weave quelling in

[rich spindle]

I see

[rigid sky]

After 20 stacks it's too dangerous

You can maybe throw one more then swap to a weapon

[elder glade]

If your taking damage from melee hits then you'll need to gain a bit more knowledge on how to clear hordes to avoid melee damage.

If the damage is coming from incoming fire then it would be best to try and get the talent that makes it so that you don't take damage from ranged attacks for 1 seconds after a crit.

Other than that, use common sense

[rigid sky]

You have to pre-empt the flow of battle, and react to the situation as it develops

Gunker has so much to keep track of