psyker-class

[limber silo]

True

[radiant frigate]

people are simply playing a different game

and they are pretty set in their ways

[limber silo]

Not everyone runs into melee and whacks shit with a stick at every opportunity

[zenith vessel]

I never use assail and i maintain DD plenty fine, idk

[radiant frigate]

resistant to change

[radiant frigate]

i do

but i am not everyone

[limber silo]

I basically play melee with every class until ranged it the only option

[hexed geyser]

I'm with you

[zenith vessel]

Psykinetic's aura is too strong for me to take assail

[cold geode]

i just shoot people to maintain DD

[elder glade]

I think both ways are valid tbh. I just prefer running without assail these days unless I feel like it. Losing the cdr just promotes a different play style at the end of the day.

[radiant frigate]

quite the opposite based on what pubs i see

[hexed geyser]

I just don't like the guns in general, that's why i play only psyker and revos on other classes

[zenith vessel]

i also usually run smite tbh but i rarely ever use it. it's just nice to have an emergency button in case theres a bunch of crushers or 14 hounds we have a hard time dealing with

[limber silo]

The only people who complain about ammo economy in my opinion are people who don't melee often enough

[spice veldt]

or loot

[limber silo]

True

[elder glade]

Scrier's gaze + melee is just fantastic

[limber silo]

I rarely use the smite in my gunker build, but it can save games in those rare moments where it's the best option available

Smykers though, those guys are the worst

[zenith vessel]

yep, it's great if you need it and the other option (auto brainburst every 15 seconds or whatever) isnt that great imo

[radiant frigate]

is it

[tired estuary]

idk somehow what I said got twisted into "I need assail to ever get stacks + I always run out of ammo without it" instead of "sometimes it can be helpful for things" because people need to twist shit since I made the mistake of using an option in a videogame sometimes

[limber silo]

I hate watching morons just use smite on the entire map and have zero damage at the end of the match

[zenith vessel]

we all seen the dude smite a single poxwalker

[harsh urchin]

here's ds4/knife+revolver assail EP that I use:

[zenith vessel]

i usually just walk past at that point lol

[limber silo]

You have used something that exists and the devs gave it to you. Prepare to be harassed for eternity

[harsh urchin]

I do have a SG + trueaim gunker as well, but I'm not really happy with how well it performs so you can prob ask someone else for it

[tired estuary]

yeah my b

[hexed geyser]

I'll try that, thanks for taking the time to do it

[elder glade]

With dueling sword mk 4 it is. You are pretty much just pairing all of the damage buffs possible with it and its already good horde clear just gets even better

[limber silo]

At least we aren't the DS community

[radiant frigate]

idk i think the horde clear is pretty damn awful

[spice veldt]

i have met a nonzero amount of people who have both smite and purg, and they elect to use smite when there's a pure horde or there isn't enough elites to warrant smite

[limber silo]

Those fuckers can't let anyone enjoy anything

[radiant frigate]

so you can stack all these buffs just so your horde clear can be Still Worse Than Base Illisi™

[limber silo]

DS4 is better than illisi sometimes

[rotund bolt]

Damn, hadron didnt fuck me

[radiant frigate]

you should know that every method that differs from mine is incorrect and you should feel bad for using it

[harsh urchin]

yeah i mean this is what happens every time 😛

[radiant frigate]

for crushers and maulers i agree

for damn near anything else i wanna say no

[hexed geyser]

Obviously illisi is better than ds4 for horde, but just try to use it on a boss to regret your life choices

[radiant frigate]

that's what i bring brain burst for, innit

[limber silo]

Oh? You used (insert game mechanic here)? You aren't a real gamer because you haven't shoved your entire PC up your ass and beat Melenia with a toothbrush

[zenith vessel]

got my force hammer ready to smash

[hexed geyser]

Oh god i hate brain burst. I did all the penances, but never again. Not that it's bad, it just doesn't feel right to me

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-baboon-laptop-gif-12948969

[hexed geyser]

And what blessings for the weapon? I would go on shred/uncanny and surgical/hand-cannon unless there's something i'm missing?

[stone totem]

Not bad, but painfully mid

[upper sun]

anyone wanna trade an illisi for a demios?

[radiant frigate]

what's your preference

back-pocket smite in case of emergency?

[hexed geyser]

Most of the times yeah

[radiant frigate]

understandable

[torpid girder]

"Don't worry, I've sent some of our best operatives on this mission"

[rotund bolt]

ahhh wtf

Voidstrike staff doesent 1 shot crit with surge

[spice veldt]

crusher?

[rotund bolt]

Ye and i do have 25% carapace

80% staff

[stone totem]

That's how you know it's gonna be a fun mission

[austere crest]

friendly reminder

[rotund bolt]

What else do i put on my voidstrike if i have Warp Nexus, Surge and 25% carapace?

[austere crest]

thats a great combination

[rotund bolt]

yeah but i dunno, i like my surge staff so much

[dawn spoke]

crit or flak maniac

[austere crest]

i get it, surge staff best staff

[rotund bolt]

CC is just so nice

[rigid sky]

Would Elites work?

That might push you to 1-shot Crushers?

[harsh urchin]

I personally would go for shred/uncanny + cara/unyielding so it does well against crushers/bosses, and yeah standard surgical/hc + flak/maniac on the revolver to handle specials/gunners/crushers

[rotund bolt]

but im noticing that the fully charged m2 has knockdown

[dawn spoke]

yes voidstrike will knock down anything but a boss

(or a bulwark)

[hexed geyser]

I believe it will stagger bosses too

[quartz barn]

it wont

[dawn spoke]

it will stagger bosses with a surge headshot

[rotund bolt]

Gonna try it on my crit surge build, see if i like it more than my surge

[harsh urchin]

I would go 5% crit

this is one of the few times

where I recommend 5% crit over a 25% roll lol

[rotund bolt]

Cus of warp nexus?

or?

[harsh urchin]

no cuz surge exists

surge basically says = your crits do 300% damage

something like that

[rotund bolt]

Ye, damn. Makes me wish that the Surge staff had some interesting blessings

[austere crest]

^RunnGun

[quartz barn]

no surge crit explodes twice

[limber silo]

I would do some testing with hand cannon before commiting to it

[quartz barn]

so double crit projectile + double explosion x 2

[rotund bolt]

Can you imagine, AOE explosion on surge crit kill

[limber silo]

It's not bad persay, just sometimes not useful

[austere crest]

i love when you get kinetic flayer on surge seconday and one enemy gibs the other enemy pops, its such a cool effect of like "tssssclaclop" sound

[limber silo]

I wouldn't know, I haven't run kinetic flayer since pre-class rework

[harsh urchin]

same

[austere crest]

Aw

[harsh urchin]

it was great on that overpowered shredder autopistol build

[austere crest]

Pairs really nicely

[limber silo]

It's just not very good anymore

[harsh urchin]

it needs a retweak imo

[austere crest]

Good Clad, very well done.

[limber silo]

The cooldown is far too high

[austere crest]

Go get a treat

[wind spruce]

Its not even 200% damage

[upper sun]

thx it was very heavy

[harsh urchin]

it either needs to be guaranteed every X seconds, or 10% chance with lower cooldown

[wind spruce]

Juicy chat this morning siblings

[austere crest]

But always worth it for the memories along the way

JUICY

U said the thing

[harsh urchin]

if it was:
every 20s, the first elite/special you hit gets BB or
every 5s, 10% chance to BB a target

either one of those would be significantly more useable

than the current state

[rotund bolt]

the 15 sec cooldown makes it kinda shit

wish it was shorter

[austere crest]

I find it enjoyable

[wind spruce]

The second phase of scriers doesn't have the base damage and crit chance included, only the stacking bonus

[harsh urchin]

ye i mean; it's too conditional lol

not only is it 10% chance

it's 15s cooldown

AND it triggers on trash

I wouldn't mind longer cooldown if it was guaranteed and only worked on specials

[austere crest]

every 15s in a 30min match is 120 additional headpops

i dont mind it

but i tend to plan on where it goes too

[zenith vessel]

100 of which are regular melees just tryna get thru their day without their brains being burst

[austere crest]

wait for the proc on specific enemy types and focus on other things until its up for instance, or just in general on a boss its nice extra damge

lol

true, but its just a fun thing to mess with

[zenith vessel]

i think i'd like it more if it was already part of BB and didnt require an extra point

[austere crest]

trying different builds and playstyles is great to keep things engaging and discover new things about the game

[austere crest]

id love that

[harsh urchin]

ye

[zenith vessel]

nothin wrong with that at all

[harsh urchin]

that's why

i'm waiting for crafting rework

hoping they redo some blessings

[austere crest]

i think the warp area could use condensing too

[harsh urchin]

and make them more interesting

[austere crest]

its too many nodes under one keystone

Would you be more ok if it was still 15s, but everytime it goes off, it gives you a 3-5s damage buff?

[wind spruce]

It also needs nerfing tbh

[spice veldt]

fatshark relocating the entire patch 12 feat tree into the keystone

[austere crest]

like smite does on its node

[spice veldt]

i think that just this passive BB proc is just inherently boring

[austere crest]

bc its the only blitz thats super single target

[spice veldt]

i'd rework/replace the node entirely

[wind spruce]

Warp charges + psykinetics aura is too good

[austere crest]

i just avoid keystones altogether

gimme more things everywhere else

[wind spruce]

Yeah but you're a crackie

[zenith vessel]

having it auto proc as the EP version is ok but then it requires taking EP over the other two choices

[austere crest]

but like, have u ever done grey weapon challenges and stuff?

[wind spruce]

I am too tryhard for that

[austere crest]

getting the base kit really strong makes the whole player package feel nicer, the damage diff isnt super noticable in game

XD

i feel that

[limber silo]

lol seer mentions they can hear music when the hoirdes come

[austere crest]

Seer has a few mentions like that, like they're aware of another reality (ours)

[wind spruce]

EP assail is hot garbage CMV

[austere crest]

I see people use it pretty well

[harsh urchin]

ye it just requires a lot of effort

[austere crest]

I jsut don't like blitzes as primary weapons

[harsh urchin]

it isn't brainless like vs or surge

[austere crest]

feels out of balance compared to like a couple nades lol

[wind spruce]

Hang on

The comparison is non ep assail

Not other damage sources

Lol

[austere crest]

I feel assail is incredibly brainless to play, they are nice, but don't require thinking

'

[spice veldt]

EP assail is fine

[austere crest]

Yondu whistles

[spice veldt]

it's +50 damage and 2x targets hittable

[austere crest]

^das good

[spice veldt]

and a slightly increased crit weakspot multiplier

or was it crit multiplier

i forgor

something finesse-y is increased

[wind spruce]

My issue is the uptime tbh

[little rapids]

im new so this is a noob take

but i loved assail when leveling up my psyker

now that i have good staff and melee i find it hard to ever use assail when i can just do better with my weapons it feels like

i actually want to use assail again but idk what to build for it. makes me sadge

[lyric burrow]

arco

[spice veldt]

hi

[lyric burrow]

plesae save me

[spice veldt]

no

[lyric burrow]

do you want to play

[spice veldt]

i'm doing homework (ignore my presence on discord)

[little rapids]

what class

[spice veldt]

computer architecture

[austere crest]

i think quell cancel cancelled assail for me, but does require more aimin

[little rapids]

oof wtf

[lyric burrow]

understandable

have a nice homework

[austere crest]

LEARN

[little rapids]

is quell cancel significant actually

[austere crest]

DO GOOD

[little rapids]

or just meta minmax stuff

[austere crest]

um one sec

[little rapids]

what the ufck

i thought it was for special attack

LOL

[lyric burrow]

its hella nice on surge

[austere crest]

that too

[lyric burrow]

which is whats shown

[austere crest]

Surge secondary has a great quell cancel, that makes warpflurry not really needed

so frees up the slot

[little rapids]

i use vs warp flurry

[austere crest]

i think thats part of why i cant get off run-n-gun now, just addicted to it like.. damnnit Irosk was right, dare I say.. crack.

[lyric burrow]

tbh flurrys good although you arent spamming multiple surge casts super often unless its your boss/cara damage

[austere crest]

^^^

Agree, but there are people that stay on secondary the whole mission with great success too

so many diff styles its nuts

buyt personally i fully agree XD

[torpid girder]

U know i try not to ping alot and stuff but i think i understand why some people spam ping when they get disabled now 🥹

Ig it was my fault for getting hounded in the first place tho

[lyric burrow]

average plasma player

(this is a joke)

yeah that is very unfort

[spice veldt]

plasma + psword grindset

[lyric burrow]

ARCO

do ur fucking HW

[spice veldt]

hey there bby

[lyric burrow]

wait if youll talk to me like that you dont have to do homework

[austere crest]

this happened to me 3 times so far this week, with team right next to me, and im not quiet lol

[torpid girder]

it was partially my fault igg I should have dodged out the way or tried to push it faster Lol

[lyric burrow]

it is although you shouldnt have died for it here

you got hounded in a very recoverable spot

[austere crest]

Full Health:

[lyric burrow]

i try not to get mad at teammates but sometimes they really tempt me

[radiant frigate]

[lyric burrow]

i wouldnt say anything to them

[torpid girder]

I didn't say anything outside of "welp" after I died Lol

the vet admitted it was their fault anyways so no reason to insult them or anything

sometimes ur just not thinking when playing

[spice veldt]

i just seethe in the background if i get hounded in a place where i would be easily saved

since i figure that people are just overloaded at times

i still hate them of course

[torpid girder]

every time i try to get mad at players like that i think back at times where i did the same thing and go "fair enough"

[spice veldt]

and i've done it accidentally when i thought that i did pop a hound off somebody but it turns out it didn't so they get chewed on for a few more seconds

[upper sun]

Happens "uhhh psyker can we please get the ammo you're carrying"

[austere crest]

i told them vacuum capsule

[radiant frigate]

"huh? wha? ammo? OH."

[upper sun]

havent used the stuff in so long mb g

[torpid girder]

Those moments where you go "Why did this person go I need healing 3x in chat?" only to look over 30 seconds later that you have a medipack

[lyric burrow]

if i see it i check my slots now

it took a while though

even 1k hours in though i sometimes forget i have ammo if im not running an ammo build on psyker

[austere crest]

or u just hear a poxburster and prep for a sec and the team just books it :/

[upper sun]

that was bull you had the dog

[lyric burrow]

nah id be so sad

i was oh surely hes coming to get you

[austere crest]

i agree\ i was pretty confident with that cast

[lyric burrow]

i dont trust ranged attacks vs dogs anymore

they freak out sometimes i swear

[austere crest]

and then the poxburster i was gonna take care of hurts the teammate upstairs at the end

just 1 bullet my way plsss

that moment when you want a flamer

[upper sun]

if i hear a dog really close by i charge and attack and release it while flinging my mouse everywhere most of the time it connects with it

[lyric burrow]

pushes being 360 has saved me from hounds many times

even if i didnt mean for it to

https://streamable.com/v8kvht

one day i will be able to hear bursters without needing to save myself last minute

tbh the one that blew up right before the one that came around the corner threw me off

[austere crest]

right? bursters are so annoying

[lyric burrow]

im fine with them when the audio works

so im not fine with them

i have had to do a last second camera flick more times than i care to admit

[austere crest]

sometimes , its just not the audio

[lyric burrow]

lmao

that is

unfort

i do wish the explosion was like a hair smaller sometimes

hold up how much mf stamina are you running lol

[austere crest]

im still really proud of this burster death

[lyric burrow]

that is so sad

[vocal cliff]

Game I don't want or need 3 of these

[austere crest]

XD

[austere crest]

this is the way

[lyric burrow]

do it

fun weapon

[vocal cliff]

It reserted

I took this whilst 3 seconds were left

[lyric burrow]

hate it when the shop reserts

[marble crater]

I love when the shop resets, I'm taking bets on how badly Hadron bricks this

[rigid sky]

+sprint efficiency, +weakspot damage, Terrifying Barrage and run + gun

[marble crater]

Not bad

[rigid sky]

I am sorry

Idk why you did that 4th consecrate though lol

It was a brick after #3

[marble crater]

For the lulz

[long wharf]

not good

you got lucky getting a t4 blessing you don't have yet on it to strip off

a lot of resources spent for a single blessing

[marble crater]

It's fine, my characters have different weapons that are good, normally I would have stopped after 3, but I wanted to see how many of Krags' predictions would be correct

[long wharf]

like I said, expensive test

[austere crest]

3k hourstotal , 2700ish on psyker and my shop rarely has anything over 350

every weapon is rolled, very annoy. 34.5mill in now for the surge i want

[rigid sky]

The burden of having an INCOMPARABLE MIND.

[marble crater]

It's outrageous that the shop has rolls that low at lvl 30

[austere crest]

i feel lie my shop is busted

bc my other classes usuually have 1 or 2 decent weapons that get just okay rolls in there

but my psyker is just like, baron. Ive never even bought a psyker weapon from melk lol

my other psyker, StabbyNoPants, can get 370+

I agree

[marble crater]

Next time I want you to predict blaze trauma perks and blessings please, if you get 2 out of 4 correct again I can fix it

[clever elk]

Melk's has this, worth?

[long wharf]

your psyker isn't royalty, you meant "barren"

[marble crater]

Cloud radius is a bit too low imo

[austere crest]

I'm not good at math, sorry.

[marble crater]

If you don't have a purgatus but have enough Melk bucks you could buy it I guess. Be a short range purg psyker

[austere crest]

melk good for curios tho too

[marble crater]

I wouldn't though, purgatus is one of the easier ones to roll

[prime elk]

people buy curios from milk? 🤨

[upper sun]

if you buy enough it can be worth it

[prime elk]

waste of milk bucks

[long wharf]

definite waste of Milkies

[upper sun]

also 90% of melk's stuff is trash if you dont need the blessings

[long wharf]

Milkies are for t4 blessings you don't have and god-rolled finds, that's it

Sour Milk can eat dicks otherwise

[torpid girder]

Woah!! I broke 1 mil dmg for the first time on any of my classes and it was on psyker!!

[upper sun]

I dont think i've ever gotten a godroll from melk

but its not so bad if you just want a starter weapon for a fresh level 30 char

[long wharf]

my godrolled power sword came from Sour Milk

[upper sun]

my 4 god rolled illisi all came from camping brunts

[wind spruce]

Barons are members of the nobility. They aren't necessarily royalty.

[long wharf]

fair, but not the point

[wind spruce]

If you're gonna nitpick so shall I

[long wharf]

you think correcting someone using the wrong homonym is "nitpick"?

[little rapids]

siblings siblings

we must not bicker we must purge the heresy

[torpid girder]

How good is this DS mk4?

[long wharf]

very

[austere crest]

nothing else to buy there

[torpid girder]

does having T4 of shred matter at all?

[long wharf]

it's not significant

[prime elk]

ok that's fair then

[austere crest]

the blessing book is full, so rng is mainly just for being anal about modifiers XD

[torpid girder]

How should I be using it btw? just heavy attack spam or do I H1 to special attack

[long wharf]

if you aren't sure you'll one-shot, special into heavy

always aiming at weakspots

[austere crest]

^^

[lyric burrow]

is that a 2

[long wharf]

he said it was a 4

[lyric burrow]

oh i cant read

[stone totem]

The voices

[vocal cliff]

That last run gave me a headache

[tulip kettle]

relateable

what happened?

[vocal cliff]

Ai director sent out a lot of bursters and flamer's

Along with their trapper cousins

Having to keep track of them all gave me said headache

Didn't help the team was already in a bad spot from the chaos spawn

[tulip kettle]

surely its no problem for an incomparable mind such as yours?

[stone totem]

When all is quiet and then fifteen bursters start spamming spawn-switches

https://tenor.com/view/aneurysm-hhhhomeboyyyy-kings-dark-tidings-saga-by-kel-kade-reaperleviathan-head-explode-gif-21578105

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-workout-lift-weights-heavy-gif-7622083

when your RL friends think they are ready for the jump up to heresy and go straight into heresy maelstrom from malice:

[vocal cliff]

That is a big jump

[vocal cliff]

Oh no that's the thing, I got things down and it wasn't even that killed me

It was a silent burster from behind me

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/tip-toe-gif-18615126

[stone totem]

Getting RL friends to play Darktide seems like a universal pain atp

[tulip kettle]

every trapper and burtser in a 2 mile radius

nah idk its 100% worth

one of them gets on and says "ive been listening to leutin lore videos when i go to bed all week"

thats 100% a win in my book

[stone totem]

Lemme find my best silent burster video rq

[rigid sky]

Getting to clutch on heresy after getting crunched in auric maelstrom is a fun power fantasy

[stone totem]

Happened omw to medicae too, was pretty salty about this one

[harsh urchin]

okay

playing with the deimos

[upper sun]

heh nuthin personel kid...

[harsh urchin]

for the first time in like 8 months

the special is so insanely good wtf

why the fuck were people shitting on this

it instantly stacks uncanny and executor to 4

[upper sun]

long ass animation and you can accidentally cancel out of it but other than that its really good

[long wharf]

people aren't shitting on deimos

it's just not as straight forwards as ds4

[upper sun]

ehhh idk ds4 is harder for me

[long wharf]

deimos has highest potential single target damage for melee for psyker

I'm not a fan of getting locked onto an enemy via animation

[harsh urchin]

well you only need to use it once

[long wharf]

per enemy

[harsh urchin]

no lol

you just need to get executor/uncanny stacked

[rigid sky]

It's not that people shit on Deimos, it's that they shit on its special

[long wharf]

you aren't killing multiple enemies per special stab

[harsh urchin]

and then you can just l1 -> h2

[harsh urchin]

watch the video

the special instantly stacks uncanny + executor

[ornate hamlet]

It's a clunky-ass special

[long wharf]

and if you come up against multiple crushers, you're only killing one a time with an attack that locks you into an animation

it's not instant damage

[harsh urchin]

no you dont want to keep using it lmao

you just use it once to stack the blessings, and now you have 100% rending and 30% power

and you'll just 2-shot the crushers from this point on

[haughty star]

It's just a mystery eviscerator

[rigid sky]

I use Deimos as a slower Duelling Sword which can use Deflector and has a much better push

[long wharf]

well, ds4 also lets you dodge farther and move faster

[harsh urchin]

for example, look at this

[long wharf]

there's no denying deimos can put out more damage

[torpid girder]

I like using the duelling sword cuz i like how it looks and i think stabbing things is satisfying :)

[long wharf]

but for breakpoints, the ds4 is able to hit nearly all the same breakpoints

[harsh urchin]

@spice veldt look at how disgusting executor+uncanny is

when you can instantly stack them

[upper sun]

illisi and deimos are both very good either at clear or single target but the animation for deimos really bugs me

[torpid girder]

Which DC4 is better?

[upper sun]

like you can break and dodge out of some of it once the hand cant does the push thing

[harsh urchin]

they're both pretty bad, but the right one has better stats

so I'd go with that one

[upper sun]

oh shit its time for a new melk rotation i cant wait for the slop

[spice veldt]

huh neat it also works for executor

[harsh urchin]

yeah it's actually quite insane

being able to instantly stack both blessings is pretty nice

[torpid girder]

Is there a mod to reduce the volume of the peril noise?

it drowns out my music :(

[spice veldt]

there's an option under option > interface called "Peril FX"

that scales both the visual and audio FX

[upper sun]

eh another day another betray by "sire" melk

[hexed geyser]

Put the music higher

[long wharf]

I'd like to say if your music is quiet enough for you to hear anything else, it's not loud enough

but audio cues are a big deal for situational awareness

[hexed geyser]

Exactly. Drown the peril noise with music instead

[upper sun]

idk listening listening to cupid or happy nation really helps me perform far more than "audio clues"

[long wharf]

audio clues are how I avoid getting hit

and pounced

and know how far away mutants are

[upper sun]

im kidding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTOdosuOwo

oops

[zenith vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/psycho-dog-man-gif-10796848

thats how i know to dodge

and/or push

[long wharf]

what the hell is that?

[zenith vessel]

its that old dude impersonating a dog !

[upper sun]

i meant to post the meme

[zenith vessel]

he 100% sounds like the pox hound lmao

[long wharf]

the woman next to him can't believe the shit she just heard

[zenith vessel]

i just looked up the video and its 13 yrs old, i might be dating myself

i think that's his wife 💀

[long wharf]

yeah, she's maintaining that polite grimace

[little rapids]

change both perks or upgrade warp flurry from III to IV?

i feel like the +1% will not be noticeable so i am leaning towards perks but im scared of irreversible decisions

[long wharf]

you want crit chance on purge

[little rapids]

for sure

idk about the second perk though

[wet belfry]

Flak

[long wharf]

maniac isn't bad

flak would be better overall

[wet belfry]

Most enemies are flak at torso in the game.

[little rapids]

does soulblaze do dmg based off torso armor? 🤔

u cant really aim it to a part of their body

[wet belfry]

All dot damage do

[little rapids]

thanks

[lyric burrow]

i have yet to turn this down

but im scared if i do i wont notice my peril anymore

cause now im so used to the screen and sound FX

[eager token]

the peril noise is especially annoying when you’re edging peril constantly

it’s just so loud lmao

having it go off like 3-4x in a row on surge sucks

[lyric burrow]

yeah it does deafen me

[little rapids]

edging peril

[spice veldt]

i got that peril meter right in the center of my screen to help with that

[lyric burrow]

but ive had it for 1k hours now

[little rapids]

😐

[eager token]

[lyric burrow]

i dont use my eyes sorry

[spice veldt]

smh

[little rapids]

im almost there my beloved!

[eager token]

you gotta edge the warp

ride the lightning

the more you edge the more you crit the more you damage

[upper sun]

crit damage perks on surge only apply on primary attacks right?

[long wharf]

wrong

unless you meant surge blessing

[upper sun]

no the perks

[long wharf]

then it depends on if you're talking about trauma or void

[upper sun]

i mean the staff

[torpid girder]

OMG WAIT REALLY?

[long wharf]

then yes, crit damage affects both, however crit damage perks are hot trash and to be avoided at all cost, across the board

the damage being multiplied isn't the total damage you deal on crit, but instead the difference between normal damage and crit damage

[upper sun]

yeah thats awful

[long wharf]

the dev at FartShack that implemented it that way needs to be dragged into the street and publically hung

[little rapids]

i hate how many things in this game are like that

[long wharf]

weak spot damage perk works similarly

[upper sun]

i admire you for saying that on their discord

[little rapids]

so many secret mechanics that arent in the flavor text

[upper sun]

im bending the knee irl

[little rapids]

and u just dont know until some guy on discord tells you

[long wharf]

well, a lot of us have been here since open beta

we've had to dig through Lua and do extensive testing to learn this stuff

really stupid.

[little rapids]

literally got this game like last week

lol

[upper sun]

i got so mad when i learned that ammo packs work with charges

[long wharf]

yeah, ammo packs really need to indicate how many uses they have left

[upper sun]

jesus im stupid i read crit chance as crit damage

thank god i didnt refine the staff yet

[long wharf]

you can get away with not having crit chance on your surge staff

it has a higher baseline crit chance already

and if you build around your surge staff, you're getting +5% crit chance from the talent tree already

[upper sun]

nah i have crit change and carap i think im better off removing the carap

[long wharf]

meta for surge staff right now is +flak and +elite damage

literally one enemy in the game has carapace body armor

[upper sun]

man id be lucky enough to get one of the things i wanted

[long wharf]

a lot of enemies have flak body armor

surge staff only hits the body

[upper sun]

yeah im doing carap for flac on it

not bad imo

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/perun-perkun-zeus-thor-god-gif-22223879

[shrewd shard]

are keystoneless builds dumb?

[upper sun]

warp charges are reallly nice

[shrewd shard]

the only one i might use in my current build are warp charges but im also taking venting shriek

im worried i wont be able to hold charges cause ill be spamming venting shriek

[upper sun]

nah you can get them from psychic vampire too or the soulblaze one

[little rapids]

i literally use shield and i already have 6 warp charges before shield is down

[dim parrot]

play dd

[little rapids]

getting them is so ez

[shrewd shard]

trying soulblaze with every soulblaze talent but not using the rifthaven staff

its just so mid'

[upper sun]

i had once psyker that managed to keep a shield up almost always in one game

[shrewd shard]

and i have a decent staff as well i just dont feel like im a stagger support with no hp

[upper sun]

nothing wrong with a stagger support

[little rapids]

yeah with cdr aura and the other synergies, it seems doable

[shrewd shard]

it is when my team goes down and i get shredded cause i have no dps

but i hear u king

[upper sun]

CDR curios

[shrewd shard]

i prob wasnt running the right build

[little rapids]

hahaha

i have triple block effiencies curios for deflector

1% peril for this block oh thank you

[upper sun]

maaan

i once died to peril because i accidentally pushed with a force sword

im too scared to run whats it called

kinetic deflection

[little rapids]

it cant kill you

i dont think it even takes u to 100

like 85 or something

[upper sun]

the talent cant?

[little rapids]

nope

it says "while below critical peril"

[upper sun]

ah yeah with "when below critical"

[little rapids]

i mean, if you keep force pushing after

sure it can kill you

[upper sun]

yeah eh im not great with edging peril id rather spring for toughness

ye but its the push that kills you

like i usually try to go block push into dodge then switch to ranged if im against a mauler

[long wharf]

I would have left Warp Flurry 3 on there

and put +elite and +flak on the perks

it's the combination of +elite and +flak that lets you hit certain breakpoints

[upper sun]

I really dont remember if it had before I think it was terrifying barrage

[long wharf]

oh okay

I thought you posted a screenshot earlier with it having flurry3

oh, that was kurama's purge staff

my bad

[little rapids]

i have influenced your mind sibling

[rotund fable]

The teams Zealot: 20 seconds after shooting a pox-burster "Our Psyker has found faith and fury!"
Me, the psyker who was yeeted into the horde by an exploding poxburster: Panic swinging my sword and trying to get back with the group while avoiding the attacks of 4 maulers and a crusher. "Why am i in the middle of all this!"

sometimes the voicelines are entertaining

[upper sun]

I like how one of the zealots secretly wants to be besties with one of the enforcer psyker

yeah lets talk about the art scene while im fighting for my life dodging muties

[lyric burrow]

also im assuming the camera sway thing is screen shake essentially

[little rapids]

the surge blessing doesnt work with trauma/surge the way i wish it would im guessing? 😔

[spice veldt]

ye

[spice veldt]

unfortunately not

surge doesn't exist on surge (this is a deranged sentence)

and surge doesn't work at all for trauma

[lyric burrow]

it is a void blessing p much

[rotund fable]

I assume you're referring the the blessing that doubles projectiles on a crit?

Surge staff secondary fire doesn't count at a projectile, and neither does the secondary fire on trauma.

Would be kinda nuts if they could work on them though

[little rapids]

i suppose

[rotund fable]

Trauma staff causing 2 shockwaves on crit, and Surge staff firing 2 botls at once on crit

[upper sun]

how long until they rename the blessing jesus

[rotund fable]

Probably never...

[lyric burrow]

they have renamed blessings before

so its possible

wouldnt count on it though

[upper sun]

yeah we need more weird headgear and awful trinkets

[rigid sky]

Not a bad thing. Primary benefit of warp charges is ult CDR. Damage is a bonus. Also think, every time you venting Shriek you are dumping soulblaze onto a new crowd, which generates more warp charges. Warp charges and Shriek are made for one another imo.

[long wharf]

I really wish all the force staves were a single archtype so they shared blessings

they have too many blessings in common for this not to make sense

[lunar hollow]

i think it would be more bearable if they added more staffs to each "family"

[long wharf]

nah

[upper sun]

too late for that I already have all the blessings i need for all of them

[long wharf]

the pain of getting Warp Flurry 4 4 times is stupid and wouldn't be alleviated by there being multiple surge staves

[lunar hollow]

the only thing u can really hope for is they just make crafting overall less dogshit

[rigid sky]

At least flurry III isn't terrible

[lunar hollow]

i dont think staffs are particularly bad in that sense because a lot of weapons have identical blessings that dont carry over already

[long wharf]

on top of that, three of the 4 force staves have the exact same primary attack

[rigid sky]

It's not as huge a difference as PC4 or Thrust 4

[long wharf]

they all have the same special attack

[upper sun]

if they really wanna keep the grind for the "player retention" they should at least give us one chance a month to change something outside of the crafting system if they dont wanna change the crafting system

[rigid sky]

My trauma also sets things on fire though :)

[long wharf]

it just makes sense that all "force staff" weapons have the same base archtype

[rigid sky]

Getting a bonk kill should trigger a special voice line

[long wharf]

and if the staves shared blessings, your surge staff could also set things on fire

which is all I've wanted since release

back when surge hit up to 5 enemies

[rigid sky]

The "percy decided not to give you a sponge" special huh

[long wharf]

burns so hot it ignites your very soul

doesn't seem like such a bad request to me

[sullen rapids]

do that for the normal melees on psyker too

[long wharf]

force swords have blazing spirit already

[sullen rapids]

i would literally never use a force sword again if i could have blazing spirit on my knife

or the dueling sword

[long wharf]

now, it's a real shame True Aim only works for ranged attacks

[sullen rapids]

it would make wildfire less bad

[long wharf]

it ought to be for all attacks

[prime elk]

Force daggers when

[long wharf]

then we could really go ham with Illisi and bloodthirsty+blazing spirit

[sullen rapids]

no

i just want blazing spirit on the normal knife

i do NOT want a force knife because it’ll have a dogshit push attack

[rigid sky]

Tfw the push attack is the best thing about force swords

[long wharf]

the psyker ought to be able to imbue any melee weapon with warp energy for an energized swing

[sullen rapids]

the push attack is dogshit it’s gotten me killed to bursters too many times

[long wharf]

don't push attack bursters then?

just push them

[sullen rapids]

normal push sucks for that too

[long wharf]

pushing is super reliable

not at all

you just suck at it

git gud.

[spice veldt]

force swords have one of the best pushes

[sullen rapids]

i literally do not have this problem with anything other than the force swords

[spice veldt]

1 bar cost for a push that has an equivalent strength to 2-bar push weapons and a slightly longer push range

one of the worst weapons for blocking in terms of stamina stats but one of the best for pushing

[rigid sky]

And then the follow up which is a ranged push attack

[spice veldt]

i personally hate the push-attack

i wish it was offensive so that it could be thrown into normal combos

[rigid sky]

Also the block is pretty good on Deimos I think? It feels better than Duelling Sword at least

But then again I run Deflector too

[spice veldt]

maybe it has a better block stat than the other two force swords

but the mk4 and mk2 duellies have a block cost of 0.5

(mk5 has a block cost of ~0.33 at 80% defense)

at least the obscurus has a block cost of 1, and i didn't really test on the illisi and deimos

[long wharf]

I basically never block with my ds4

except to push bursters

[rigid sky]

But you can actively quell with a force sword out at least if you find moments. Which isn't often if you're being pressured enough that you need to block

Since most psykers run Kinetic deflection

[long wharf]

I think the psyker should be able to quell with any weapon

but I also think the psyker should only get one-handed weapons so that they can quell with any weapon

[spice veldt]

i usually always quell with my staff so i don't find quelling with force swords to be particularly useful
esp since you can't cancel attacks with quelling

[rigid sky]

Yeah, just make it basic rate like with your blitz out

[spice veldt]

so you have to wait for the attack animation to finish before you can quell with force swords unless you're cancelling it

[rigid sky]

I like to quell with my sword because fancy animation

[spice veldt]

the other thing is that the game cheats in your favor when pushing bursters anyways so the particular push of the melee weapon doesn't matter

[vernal blaze]

worth or nah

[spice veldt]

if you've ever noticed that you can push a burster without a hitmarker displaying

and at a farther range than the normal push

[long wharf]

unless you want to buy it to strip flurry4 off it, I wouldn't

[vernal blaze]

and is t4 flurry a good enough perk to consider doing that

[long wharf]

all t4 blessings on weapons you want to use are worth spending Milkies on

it's the best use of Milkies

[vernal blaze]

sir yes sir

[shrewd shard]

decent?

[lyric burrow]

Yeah

Uh id probably swap nexus to t4 and sustained to surge

Cara maniac is fine imo even if its not perfect

But tbh second perk is kinda w/e after cara

[lunar hollow]

voidstrike is smth else

the only thing that downed me was being 1 second off shriek being able to save me

[long wharf]

yeah, if you have good aim, a flurry+surge void staff can output a lot of damage

via True Aim

I prefer to go nexus+surge for consistency, especially in situations where there aren't a bunch of heads lined up nicely to hit

like stagger-locking bosses

[lunar hollow]

yea i run nexus/surge but my void has 4% crit locked in so im just kinda going with the theme

[lapis violet]

is this worth getting siblings?

[prime elk]

for milk bucks? defnitely not

[lunar hollow]

if u dont have any other purg staffs that is a solid start

perks are a bit of a shame but u swap run n gun to warp nexus and cara to probably uhh flak

[lapis violet]

my current one

it actually does appear to be quite good

[lyric burrow]

voids a little unreal

[lunar hollow]

cloud radius/burn are the two most important stats

[lyric burrow]

ive been running it recently

[lunar hollow]

damage is relatively minor so its a better dumpstat than cloud

[lapis violet]

i chose the one i had because the other one i could have had was like a 50 burn

[urban sandal]

this happens to me more than I wish to admit

shit goes off cd as i blow up

[lunar hollow]

ive had it happen twice where the last frame before death it has 0.2s left

[vocal cliff]

Should've warped time

Man I'm inna dlimena

[long wharf]

you having a stroke?

[vocal cliff]

No

Psyker is my most fun class, but at the same time it's also my least fun, but I can't play others because they don't have the thing psyker has that tickles my brain

[long wharf]

it can't be both your most fun and least fun class

you can have least fun builds with the class

[wind spruce]

It can if you only play one class.

It could also be by different metrics that it's the most and least fun.

[little rapids]

psyker is fun

[long wharf]

it's the most fun, in my opinion

[little rapids]

enemies go boom

[hexed geyser]

Nice the special mission is still there. Is it going to stay forever or it's unknown?

[long wharf]

likely forever

or until FartShack changes their mind and wants to put up a new special mission

[hexed geyser]

If they put them in a special category with all the "story" missions available it would be amazing.

[long wharf]

it's the only "story" mission we have so far

[austere crest]

The opening scene prison breakout is so awesome

[long wharf]

we need more story missions

[austere crest]

i would love another level like that where there is alot of like environmental story telling

i run it on solo mode sometimes but you can only use a single weapon

[long wharf]

given FartShack's history with Vermintide 1/2, we were all surprised to see no story missions past the tutorial mission for Darktide on release

FartShack was definitely not ready to release Darktide

[vivid estuary]

Can't wait till darktide has a mode like pilgrimage

[harsh urchin]

i mean tbh

[long wharf]

what's that?

[harsh urchin]

the game doesnt really need a story

[long wharf]

on the contrary, it absolutely needs a story

[vivid estuary]

You just mentioned vermintide and don't know what pilgrimage is?

[long wharf]

story is why we're running missions on Atoma in the first place

[long wharf]

yes, mentioned Vermintide, I haven't played the Vermintide games

you really can't have a WH40K game without story or plot

[vivid estuary]

Ah, so basically it's marathon mode where you do abunch of missions back to back and there are special missions at the end

you get to collect buffs along the way too

[harsh urchin]

chaos wastes?

tbh i wasnt the biggest fan of it

they kinda fucked up the feel of how a roguelike is supposed to feel

[vivid estuary]

it's not a roguelike though

it's a marathon

[long wharf]

just adding a random element doesn't make something a roguelike

[fresh reef]

@spice veldt hey Arco, can you pass me your degenerate graphics config? and/or, any suggestions to lower cpu usage?

[vivid estuary]

like deep dives in deep rock

[long wharf]

the term "roguelike" is being horribly abused these days

[vivid estuary]

calling chaos wastes a roguelike is like saying CoD zombies is a roguelike

[long wharf]

just turn ragdolls all the way down

[hexed geyser]

I know it's not great but what's your ideas to make this better (i know abt dum dum)? I want some opinions

[long wharf]

a real shame

strip speedload off and try again

it's bricked

[hexed geyser]

I know it is, it's still usable to test until i want to make a great one.

[spice veldt]

there's stuff that's prob just going to be marginal improvements
there's stuff like max_ragdolls like pfhoenix said that you can said to 1 (but not 0 since that will crash your game)
static_sun_shadows, which can be set to false and then disable sunrays seen in the mourningstar/desert map/etc.

the "MoreGraphicsOptions" mod should cover a lot of what i did to my config

besides the texture settings I think which you may or may not want to subject yourself to

but if you do, they're these lines

texture_settings = {
    "content/texture_categories/character_bc" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/character_bca" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/character_bcm" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/character_hm" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/character_mask" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/character_mask2" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/character_nm" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/character_orm" = 6
    "content/texture_categories/environment_bc" = 7
    "content/texture_categories/environment_bca" = 7
    "content/texture_categories/environment_hm" = 7
    "content/texture_categories/environment_nm" = 7
    "content/texture_categories/environment_orm" = 7
    "content/texture_categories/weapon_bc" = 3
    "content/texture_categories/weapon_bca" = 3
    "content/texture_categories/weapon_hm" = 3
    "content/texture_categories/weapon_mask" = 3
    "content/texture_categories/weapon_nm" = 3
    "content/texture_categories/weapon_orm" = 3
}
Higher values correlate to lower-quality textures. E.g., '0' is the highest quality possible, and '8' is very low quality.
Setting the value to '-1' will choose the lowest quality texture allowable, it seems.

[vocal cliff]

Wall of text

[spice veldt]

uahughuahghnnnnnnng

[long wharf]

set everything to -1

you don't need to visually enjoy the game to be able to play it

[fresh reef]

gonna give this a once over, sounds interesting

[deep pine]

I played with a psyker the other day who was using a purg staff and force sword I believe. He would cast with staff then swap to melee and his melee attack speed seemed insanely fast and strong, the fastest swing speed I've ever seen. Could someone tell me what was going on there?

[long wharf]

he was using his melee blessings to buff soulblaze damage

[spice veldt]

force sword lights come out quick and most of the downtime is after the attack

[little rapids]

i dont think theres any synergy between the two, maybe he just had a fast illisi lol

[spice veldt]

so you can just swap off during the attack to avoid the endlag and swap back to melee

prob a macro

or the now-taken-off always first attack mod

[long wharf]

that mod was straight cheating

[spice veldt]

or a deranged person doing it manually

[long wharf]

there are several mods out there that are straight cheating

[little rapids]

how essential is crit bonus on surge staff

i got 65% with otherwise good numbers

[long wharf]

it's not critical

[deep pine]

Well I have 200 hours on patch 16...so I'm not totally clueless...bit his swing speed was literally twice as fast as my zealot using devil claw.

[long wharf]

meta surge staff is warp nexus, warp flurry, +flak damage, +elite damage

[little rapids]

honestly

figuring out the meta blessings was pretty easy

LOL

[long wharf]

especially for surge

[little rapids]

it has like 5 and im not putting hit and run on it

[long wharf]

we should get a staff that only rolls movement-related blessings

[little rapids]

im so plasteel broke fuck

i play a mission --> upgrade --> zero plasteel

[long wharf]

welcome to the Darktide end-game

where you go broke on plasteel and dockets

[little rapids]

yeah i keep wanting to buy that cool psyker pajama set then i keep on spending it on staves

[lyric burrow]

ordos are actually such a bottleneck its insane

[little rapids]

are they

it seems like plasteel is

i never run out of ordos

[lyric burrow]

it depends on luck

[long wharf]

you haven't tried to build a weapon, then

Brunt is the real end-game boss

[little rapids]

like rolling for the exact stats u want?

[long wharf]

and you can only fight him with dockets

[little rapids]

oof

[lyric burrow]

but generally you are buying 50 weapons to get one good oine

[long wharf]

and then Hadron bricks it

[lyric burrow]

which is like 500k dockets

[long wharf]

so you have to go buy 50 more

[lyric burrow]

and thats assuming hadron doesnt brick it yeah

[wet belfry]

I spent near 5 million yesterday on knives and got one 380

[long wharf]

the most I've burned through at Brunts in one sitting was 1.3mil

[wet belfry]

and that one was bricked by hadron

[lyric burrow]

same i think

[long wharf]

Brunt is the end-game boss

Hadron is his phase two

[lyric burrow]

if you arent going for 70+ in all important stats then its less grueling

[wet belfry]

5 million shouldnt take to long anyways to get back

[lyric burrow]

but i am going for 70+

[wet belfry]

probably around 5 hours of pure playing.

[long wharf]

damnation maelstroms will help get that back

with a good striketeam

[wet belfry]

^ and you can speedrun them in like 12 minutes

Ok my intuition might be abit wrong

i think 2.5 million is more around the max value that you can farm in 5 hours.

so 0.5 million ordo dockets per hour.

[long wharf]

I'm not sure how you're getting through a damnation in 12 minutes, let alone a damnation maelstrom

[wet belfry]

Speed zealots go zoom zoom

[long wharf]

that'd require everyone being a speed zealot/veteran

[wet belfry]

Pretty much

[spice veldt]

magistrati moment

[wet belfry]

If your lucky you also can get a map with a skip or two.

[long wharf]

yeah, the only map you're getting through in 12 minutes reliably is the fast assassination mission

[wet belfry]

Well mods let one replay maps over, over again anyways

[long wharf]

mods don't change what maps are available

[wet belfry]

It would have to be some real bad luck to not get a single map that cant be speedrunned

[long wharf]

you only get one non-auric maelstrom option at a time

[wet belfry]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/175

Its all maelstroms within 24 hours.

[long wharf]

well, alrighty then

I don't know why I expected more competence out of FartShack

[wet belfry]

This mod can by the way be used to play solo with mats.

Since if you play a session on public that has expired people cant join that match.

[long wharf]

being the only person collecting all the mats would take longer than having everyone on the team picking up mats

[wet belfry]

True'

I usally dont care about mats too much but ordos

Ordos are the actual bottleneck by now.

[long wharf]

but at least you wouldn't see players ping mats and then turn around and leave them there

god that irritates me

[wet belfry]

But having players does also make the run just faster aswell

I can complete a speedrun mission myself in like 15 to 16 minutes.

[long wharf]

as long as they're better than bots

[wet belfry]

But with 4 players that gets reduced to 11 to 12

Its usally to communicate everything beforehand doing the runs.

Like general stragety, goals.

Its extremely important that everyone does not get in eachothers ways

Players that actually dont know what they are doing will infact likely slow down the run.

[long wharf]

well yeah

[wet belfry]

The best part is when everyone jumps off ledges like lemmings so that the front person can get past elevator sections

[long wharf]

how does that work?

[wet belfry]

It needs to be timed as the front runner gets to an elevator

Usally you try to have one front runner, one to three backrunners that collect mats.

The front runner only goal is to move forward objectives.

[long wharf]

right, but elevators require everyone to be in them

[wet belfry]

Ye which is why everyone kills themselves before the elevator sections

[long wharf]

well that's a bit extreme

[wet belfry]

Nothing is extreme enough in the service of the god emperor

[long wharf]

heh

apparently not

I'll report myself to the Commissar immediately

[wet belfry]

Though i dont often run elevator maps for this reason

Enclaavaum barros is the map i usally run the most.

It has no elevator sections

and is decently fast map.

[long wharf]

sounds boring

[wet belfry]

Probably true :p

magistrati oubliete is actually pretty fun at the end in speedruns,

3 monstrocitys with traitor boss is something to witness.

[long wharf]

that sounds fun

[vocal cliff]

Accidentally blew up a poxburster on a zel, tho it was comedically timed then this happened so that kinda evens it out

Still kinda funny

[tame venture]

of my curios, which ones would you guys end up using?

[wet belfry]

Nice ui

Could i see your talent tree?

[deep pine]

I really like running 1 stamina, I would keep using yours and work on making a better one.

[fresh reef]

queued malice maelstrom by accident

I need to uninstall

[tame venture]

I don't mind more money, in fact i really need it. but i suppose i could do better than a 3/4 roll on it

[deep pine]

Yeah it's just nice to have 3 perfect rolls.

[long wharf]

I put stamina regen and ordo dockets on all my psyker curios

[willow hazel]

I don't get point of stamina regen on psyker

[feral verge]

i tried it

i just ended up missing gunner resist

[wind spruce]

Why not have both

[lunar hollow]

i could see stam regen on a build w/o kinetic deflection but i p much always run it

[lyric burrow]

yeah KD isnt hard to get

[feral verge]

because i run hp and toughness perks by default

and will never take them off because they are too valuable

[primal plume]

Check this shit out, siblings

🦎

Nice, huh?

[wind spruce]

Toughness, sure. Pretty unconvinced that 7.5 health per perk is worth it

[feral verge]

i got nothing better to replace it with

sniper resist? ehh. i get sniped maybe once, in 1 out of every 5 games

toughness regen? nah, psyker already has so much toughness generation shit

block efficiency? KD got me covered

corruption resist? HP does more for you

[spice veldt]

run ordo dockets binch

[feral verge]

im not poor like you

[spice veldt]

why not build upon your existing wealth

i may be scratching at your ankles now

but soon i may stand higher than you can see

[feral verge]

you are small, you will die small

[wind spruce]

Valid arguments.

If I'm playing gunker I take toughness regen, and I'm not totally convinced it isn't worth it in general. The delay is tiny and you regen so quickly with +90%. Getting to full toughness for the damage gate is so valuable. I go back and forth on it.

[spice veldt]

your complacency shall be the end of you

[feral verge]

get crusher resist

[spice veldt]

funny, you were the one who died to crushers last time we played

[lyric burrow]

yeah but i havent seen video proof of mankar getting bonked

[spice veldt]

FUCK

[lyric burrow]

and it would be a less funny clip

[spice veldt]

i shouldn't have deleted it

wha

[feral verge]

dumb idiot stupid

arco? more like arcoLOW

he was brought low by the crusher

arco lol cow

[lyric burrow]

i can get behind arclolcow

er

arco lol cow

[spice veldt]

what the hell

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/69nzf6

have this instead

[lyric burrow]

i like i could hear your keyboard

[spice veldt]

lmao lol xd

[lunar hollow]

deal with it

[lyric burrow]

i didnt even complain damn

[lunar hollow]

one time i was streaming in a vc and someone told me i type fast

idk why that reminded me of that

[lyric burrow]

why would that make you angry

[lunar hollow]

everything makes me angry

i sustain myself off spite

[lyric burrow]

my WPM should be faster given how much i use a keyboard

i think its like 70

[feral verge]

delete this

[lunar hollow]

no

[lyric burrow]

wait

how old is that clip

kronk at level 168...

[lunar hollow]

u can see the timestamp

[lyric burrow]

ah

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/4gok76 @feral verge

[lyric burrow]

damn you really didnt play much ogryn

[feral verge]

younger mai

[lunar hollow]

many eons ago

[lyric burrow]

wait i thought he was trying to kill you

[feral verge]

delete this 2

[lyric burrow]

lmao

[lunar hollow]

"WAOW."

[feral verge]

i think i was just swining haphazardly

swinging

[lunar hollow]

i love the reaction

[feral verge]

i really do say that

[lyric burrow]

this is what hsword does to people

[feral verge]

like, somewhat frequently

when i see something stupid

even if its me doing the stupid

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/1rftbs

lmfao

[feral verge]

i also do this dumb thing where i clap

when i die or get downed

[lyric burrow]

i like how you didnt even get mad

[feral verge]

but it's a singular clap

[lyric burrow]

you were just like

waow

i died

[lunar hollow]

"I DROPPED THE SOAP i dropped the soap"

[spice veldt]

cringe (i also do this in exasperation)

[feral verge]

i have no memory of this event

[lunar hollow]

neither do i

[eager token]

my queen

[lunar hollow]

many games have been played since then

[feral verge]

i have no idea where i got this from

and idk why i do it

[lunar hollow]

you're stimming

[spice veldt]

maybe in like other videos
people clapping when they're laughing

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/j67lpg

[spice veldt]

that's where i got my habit of doing it from

lol

[spice veldt]

you petulant child

[feral verge]

i dont give a rat's dick about this video

[spice veldt]

the burster clip reminded me of this one https://streamable.com/aoztjm

[feral verge]

boohoo i burstered you once

[lyric burrow]

josho were you using fuckin

paul

[feral verge]

how many times have you burstered me

[lunar hollow]

i was on many negative hours of sleep

[lunar hollow]

why does dt make my mic sound so much fucking worse

[lyric burrow]

it makes me sound like shit too

[spice veldt]

it makes you sound even more of a crackhead

[feral verge]

KINETIC FLAYER SPOTTED

[lunar hollow]

WOOOOOO

YEAAHHHHH

[spice veldt]

truly gives that "just did a line of coke" attitude to it

[lunar hollow]

i remember that

[lyric burrow]

it really does

[lunar hollow]

i think that may be one of my most unhinged clips ever

[lyric burrow]

ok stop making me laugh it hurts my back

arco almost did it for you

[feral verge]

I HATE HIM IM LETTING HIM DIE

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

[lyric burrow]

josho was out for blood

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/ftnfyq

i miss old fire