so I saw it from the inside as well as a consumer
#psyker-class
long wharf
tulip kettle
but, again, large developers and studios since thelate 90s were expected to release games that were functional because they could not be patched. The studios by this time knew if they released it in a bad or buggy state they would not sell asnd make their money back
mighty fractal
but, again, large developers and studios since thelate 90s were expected to rele...
Yessss and noooo
A lot of games back then released multiple editions with updates
long wharf
anyways, I find it incredibly amusing when kids these days complain and try to compare things today with "back then"
mighty fractal
Arcade games were expected to grab peoples' attention more than anything
tulip kettle
yeah and u are right in that sense
mighty fractal
Arcades were a wild west of devs like Capcom and SNK trying to outdo one another with outlandish ideas
long wharf
patches from the internet were a thing starting around 2000
tulip kettle
before the mid 90's or so gaming was very different
mighty fractal
most of the games themselves were not particularly functional
long wharf
I miss arcades
mighty fractal
or wouldn't stand up to scrutiny now
Yeah
I do too...
Every arcade around here is dead now
tulip kettle
and dude, nobody was doing that be real
long wharf
I miss going to an arcade with $10 in quarters and just spending a day playing different arcade games with friends
mighty fractal
I used to go to fighting game events around here, but the fighting game community here literally did a Cadia
and now a region that was one of the powerhouses of fighting games in the USA (Southern California) just doesn't exist anymore
but that's a whole nother can of worms
upper sun
there are still places that have arcades in europe idk about america
long wharf
I haven't seen an arcade in the US in a really long time
tulip kettle
the era of N64, PS1, gamecube, people were not patching their games from the internet. Maybe in the later stages of the PS2 lifetime and the start of 360 did that become an actual thing. Yes it was possible before this but rarely used
upper sun
10 dollars wont get you far tho 
tulip kettle
and i used to work as an arcade tech
mighty fractal
Yeah they still exist here. They were just rare
upper sun
entrance fee was like 20 euro in poland of all places
tulip kettle
there is no money to be made from it generally
long wharf
the era of N64, PS1, gamecube, people were not patching their games from the int...
PC games were seeing developers publish patches in 2000
mighty fractal
^
tulip kettle
PC games were seeing developers publish patches in 2000
right
pc gamers
in the 2000's
still helm
I need help with the Psykers, Malleus Monstronum Penance which LFG would I post that in?
long wharf
and again, arcade development (of which my father did for Sente and then Bally Sente) is very different from PC development
mighty fractal
re: arcades, even the big devs like Capcom and SNK released updates for their games that required arcade owners to buy entirely new boards
tulip kettle
that mass market
mighty fractal
and those things are heavy + take up space
still helm
Sorry to interrupt
tulip kettle
I need help with the Psykers, Malleus Monstronum Penance which LFG would I post ...
probably your regions LFG channel
mighty fractal
pc gaming was/is a lot more 'agile' as the corporate types love to say
long wharf
I love discussing gaming history
still helm
Thank you
mighty fractal
A lot of expansion packs back then were literally just keys to unlock content that was unfinished from the first game
long wharf
I keep meaning to see if I can get it up and running in MAME on my simpit setup
tulip kettle
and bandai namco own like, every single machine
MAME is awesome but, you cant use it to run a business
mighty fractal
Steel Talons
No working ROM?
long wharf
I have no desire to
mighty fractal
Yeah people do custome MAME cabs but that's its own thing
tulip kettle
no i know but im just expanding on why arcades are trash now
long wharf
I think there's a working ROM of Steel Talons out there, somewhere
I haven't put in a lot of effort to look
tulip kettle
you open the machine, you void the warranty and servicing
mighty fractal
I have a phoenixed Shadow Over Mystara board that's been sitting in my closet for years
A friend sold it to me ages ago
long wharf
every few years I do a search to see if anyone is selling a working Steel Talons cabinet
tulip kettle
gotta call their operators to come take the machine away for 6 weeks to resolder a fucking wire
mighty fractal
I honestly have no idea what goes into Phoenixing a board other than replacing the battery, since Capcom wanted those things to self-destruct over time
long wharf
support was where the money was
mighty fractal
kids will never know the pain of trying to play the capcom 32-in-1 cab with boardwalk sand jammed into the buttons
so you'd break your wrist just shooting/doing a combo
long wharf
or going into an arcade and seeing a NeoGeo for the first time
with its selection of games
kids have no idea how good they have it today
with the expectation for any game they want to play that's available on their system of choice generally working
mighty fractal
(and then the NeoGeo is actually bootlegged with a hacked version of KoF2k2 on it)
long wharf
the golden age of gaming may have been mid-to-late 90s, but the golden age of game development is still happening right now
long wharf
gaming hardware has never been better
mighty fractal
And there's a massive canon of games to base your own game off of
long wharf
and game development middleware has never been better, making it easier and easier for devs to get into making games
mighty fractal
like the creative pool of ideas is very uh
fertile
right now
and it's more accessible too yeah
anyone can whip some shit up in blender
You don't have to dot matrix shit to sprite your game anymore
long wharf
mobile gaming hides its true benefit for gaming in general - pure accessibility
you don't have to count scanlines and perform code in the time it takes for the projector return
coding games back in the early days of consoles for TVs was absolute lunacy
you had to be borderline genius to make it work well
long wharf
when my father and I talk about programming, it's two totally different worlds
he talks about dealing with constrained hardware, counting CPU clock cycles for algorithms
mighty fractal
Borderline wizardry
long wharf
I talk about Agile development and layers on layers of abstraction
mighty fractal
most of my game dev experience just comes from marketing and QA
and the art side of things, which is what my dad did for a bit before moving on to other clients
I don't have the brain for programming, but it's fascinating to hear about
dawn spoke
he talks about dealing with constrained hardware, counting CPU clock cycles for ...
just slap electron onto it 4Head
mighty fractal
my outsider perspective gives me the impression that fatshark has a lot of great creatives on the team, and they'd make for a great production company
eager token
electron is a framework for developing desktop apps
dawn spoke
chromium+nodejs bundle that every desktop app (including discord) uses
mighty fractal
the actual workflow/management probably leaves something to be desired
eager token
idk what photon is
long wharf
FatShark's art and sound people don't deserve the shit programmers they have
mighty fractal
Yeah basically
long wharf
the art and sound people are why we keep playing Darktide
dawn spoke
but since it's chromium it is very ram expensive and the only thing you get out of it is that it any idiot with a keyboard can make your ui
long wharf
Photon is a graphics abstraction library
Valve uses it to make games run on the Steam Deck
mighty fractal
they have some of the best sound design in the industry
and FS melee combat is currently still the top dog
eager token
cant even enjoy the art and level design when i’m being swarmed by shit on auric all the time
a shame
mighty fractal
Pretty much every melee system in an fps now pulls from VT/DT now, at least in terms of gamefeel
dawn spoke
it's so weird having a sudden quiet moment in a match and looking around, thinking "Wow, I've never gotten to actually appreciate this area's design before"
long wharf
I always play new maps on Malice for the first time
eager token
boss rush map modifier when 
long wharf
so I can fuck around and play tourist for a bit
mighty fractal
There's a ton of hidden detail in the newer maps
The Pit in VT2 had a ton of little side areas and fun details as well
which you wouldn't ever see in a regular playthrough
long wharf
not an issue of fault at all
FS's art and sound folks get all the props for their ability to create the environments and ambience Darktide needs
their actual game designers get all the deserved hate for not being able to design their way out of a wet paper bag
mighty fractal
There's a good chance whichever team they hired to do QA/playtesting is also not very good
Though
From my time doing QA/playtesting
I can say that usually those people are doing the best they can (for the little pay that they get) and their feedback often sits on a mountain of priorities that programmers, etc. just never get around to
mighty fractal
In all seriousness, most studios hire third-party teams to do QA - even huge studios who you'd think would have internal teams
But ALSO in all seriousness
I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a few people at the FS offices doing a quick test
and then giving the work a pass when it shouldn't get a pass yet
long wharf
I'm dead serious - I don't think FS has anybody whose job is to QA/test
fathom adder
It also helps that most of Fatshark's would-be competitors just keep shitting the bed.
"There is a special providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children, and Fatshark."
— Otto von Bismarck, definitely
long wharf
I would have believed you if you had said Abraham Lincoln said it.
mighty fractal
Oh yeah I don't think they have an actual department for it
lethal lagoon
We need to have a smite off now
upper sun
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA this is my 10th ILLISI GIVE ME A GOOD VOID STAFF
fathom adder
I would have believed you if you had said Abraham Lincoln said it.
The original quote was actually from Bismarck, talking about the USA
mighty fractal
Most studios don't, but most studios also hire third parties to test
Whereas FS probably shifts the load to overworked people in other fields, at best
long wharf
The original quote was actually from Bismarck, talking about the USA
good to know
mighty fractal
hmm yes sven this looks good to go
It definitely gives me Digital Extremes vibes, where their past as a production studio really stands out
Great sound design, great visuals, great gamefeel, can compress their game into a tin can every update to keep the system requirements compact...
But holy fuck Warframe is the definition of "this game has no direction and has been that way for over a decade"
the actual game isn't focused at all because Steve and Scott are probably great idea men who jump from one idea to the next
without devoting the time to polish those ideas
fathom adder
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA this is my 10th ILLISI GIVE ME A GOOD VOID STAFF
You will continue to roll the dice and you will enjoy it. Don't you know that you will stop having fun once you have the thing you want?
mighty fractal
and yeah, dev in general is very funny
upper sun
i just fucking need slaughterer 4 already if melk would get his shit together
fathom adder
All sarcasm aside, is the platitude "it's the journey that counts, not the destination" actually just cope for people who never reached the destination or were dissatisfied by it?
long wharf
Warframe has never had any solid direction
mighty fractal
My current workplace has a database bug where entries without specifications get labeled as something very goofy
And it's been that way for over a year because it doesn't actually impede work itself
long wharf
it started with "Well, we're going bankrupt, let's just release this space ninja thing we've got and pray that we make enough to make payroll for a few months"
mighty fractal
Warframe has never had any solid direction
I remember I used to get crucified by WF fans when I said this back in 2014-15
Now it's common sentiment
I feel vindicated with time lol
long wharf
I knew one of the lead devs at DE, but I think he left before Warframe released
long wharf
most game studios are
mighty fractal
Did he have beans to spill
long wharf
it's called Survivorship Bias
long wharf
I haven't talked to Ray in a couple decades at this point
mighty fractal
😔
long wharf
I'd have to track him down
we met in the Unreal modding community
I think he jumped to Epic at some point, but I don't remember right now
mighty fractal
Ohh makes sense
That would be a reasonable jump, given DE's past working with Epic
long wharf
yep
mighty fractal
Probably had an in through the company, etc
mostly unrelated, but I also maintain that DRG is successful largely because they were smart enough to avoid these devtraps
and they kept their game very simple
they focused on what they knew they were good at: map generation, gunplay
and player interactions
mighty fractal
their community is
something
(something I choose not to interact with)
DRG's mapgen is the key imo
at least from a gameplay perspective
wish they'd release more biomes, but it's probably a massive undertaking
especially working with that game's old spaghetti code at this point
tulip kettle
my experience of the drg community was largely very positive
honestly better than every single darktide discord that isnt psyker chat
radiant frigate
is psyker chat more civilized than the channels of the blunts?
tulip kettle
lol, yes dude
radiant frigate
i don't look at other channels
tulip kettle
at least here people want to discuss game mechanics and share info
you can have a productive discussion where 2 people disagree
radiant frigate
are the others something like "ooga booga me shoot gun"
tulip kettle
its a positive oasis of rationality, ironically
long wharf
big brains want to play with the warp
tulip kettle
most of them are just a few people who decided that channel is their private chat server
long wharf
big brains like understanding how things fundamentally work
shell radish
what cant you parry with the devils claw
tulip kettle
"i think 3rd person mod and HP bars are bad for the same reasons that people hate playing with assail psykers in malice and below"
radiant frigate
and then people choose to play bubble smite psyker
radiant frigate
tulip kettle
"i think 3rd person mod and HP bars are bad for the same reasons that people hat...
"skill issue git gud" etc
hearty dagger
The reason i despise those mods is very simple
It triggers the same part of my brain that the uncanny valley effect does
tulip kettle
really? elaborate
i dont like them because they both make the game considerably easier for you, to the point where many mechanics are completely trivialised or redundant
which ruins the experience for other players
hearty dagger
Very simple
lethal lagoon
i dont like them because they both make the game considerably easier for you, to...
I geniunelly don't notice the difference between healthbars on and off
hearty dagger
It looks like it shouldn't be there
tulip kettle
right, you think you dont
tulip kettle
but look at it this way
long wharf
I think healthbars is a gray area
tulip kettle
every elite is marked, for free
without anyone pinging them
that makes the game easier.
long wharf
completely unlike the mod that makes the symbol matching minigame super easy
spice veldt
on the other hand, you really can just spam ping if you wanted to
lethal lagoon
I'm usually in front, so they aren't really marked till I know they exist anyways.
And as I said, I noticed no difference.
tulip kettle
on the other hand, you really can just spam ping if you wanted to
which is enough to get you votekicked, rightfully so
bold badger
i feel like no one marks enemies at all
long wharf
most randos don't
tulip kettle
i feel like no one marks enemies at all
its because everyone has hp bars 🙂
lethal lagoon
As for 3rd person, it's a meme, it's absolutely not easier outside of very few weapons.
tulip kettle
its so obvious sometimes too
tulip kettle
As for 3rd person, it's a meme, it's absolutely not easier outside of very few w...
lol, again, it is
you can see behind you
spice veldt
if you're in a situation where it's hard to spot elites/specials and you really need to, then you probably won't get kicked for spamming it
bold badger
well, I don't so it's kind of annoying
lethal lagoon
It's not "slightly" lmao
tulip kettle
but having perfect 360 awareness at all times, even around corners, is broken
and idk dude if youve ever played any competetive 3rd person games its not that hard.
spice veldt
this isn't a competitive game where you can just get domed for peeking though
tulip kettle
no
hearty dagger
Imma elaborate further on what i said earlier
long wharf
stealth sniper missing audio cues enters the chat
lethal lagoon
and idk dude if youve ever played any competetive 3rd person games its not that ...
There's a pretty huge difference between a game built for 3rd person and a game not lmao.
tulip kettle
but im just saying if you are used to 3rd person shooters beyond like, spyro, its still not hard
right dude
but if you are going to deny that seeing behind you isnt insanely strong idk what to tell you
lethal lagoon
There are advantages, but there's enough disadvantages that it honestly doesn't matter.
hearty dagger
3rd person and enemy healthbars feels unnatural because my brain just screams at me like "THIS IS NOT NATURAL AND IS NOT LONG FOR THIS WORLD"
tulip kettle
and if you think having enemies marked for free is not also insanely strong, i again dont know what to tell you
i USE these mods
lethal lagoon
but if you are going to deny that seeing behind you isnt insanely strong idk wha...
Because I play at 3600 DPI, and it's not like I ever really get surprised from behind?
spice veldt
i don't believe that it's "insanely" strong because the game gives you cues for backstabs
lethal lagoon
^
tulip kettle
lol
long wharf
half my play is responding to audio cues
spice veldt
yes i agree it's an advantage
cunning bone
broo atlas you're cracked, respect
spice veldt
but i disagree on the severity
tulip kettle
look
lethal lagoon
Keep in mind, I'm 1st person like 99.927% of the time, I'm not defending myself for using 3rd person mods or something.
tulip kettle
if you get 2 people using the mods, and 2 not, of the same skill level
spice veldt
yes that has been already established
tulip kettle
the 2 using those mods will top the scoreboard every time
spice veldt
i just said that i agree that it's an advantage
tulip kettle
and its ALSO why i hate people posting scoreboards as if they mean much
hearty dagger
fellas help the cat is licking my face
long wharf
but at the end of the day, Darktide isn't PvP
tulip kettle
oh look i got top damage
hearty dagger
it kinda hurts how do i use the empyrean to fix this
spice veldt
the other thing is that this is not a very reactive game
lethal lagoon
if you get 2 people using the mods, and 2 not, of the same skill level
Healthbars function like training wheels, and as I said, 3rd person only has a select few weapons that work well with it.
long wharf
anything that isn't obviously detracting from other players fun is basically fair game
lethal lagoon
So it's not just the same skill level, which high or low, that matters.
spice veldt
the reason why i don't consider them significant advantages is that the game is pretty lenient in giving you time to react
lethal lagoon
and its ALSO why i hate people posting scoreboards as if they mean much
For most people it's for fun, but I agree that's cringe.
tulip kettle
i dont think its bad for any reason
except it takes the experience away from other players
i went into a game earlier today
lethal lagoon
I mean being shit at the game takes away from other players too
tulip kettle
lol being shit and not using mods are just not the same
please go back to any other chat atlas
tulip kettle
i went into a game earlier today
with a plasma vet obviously using hp bars
it was extremely unfun for everybody
spice veldt
no exe stance?
long wharf
how do you know he was using hp bars?
hearty dagger
I think bro was sniping every elite through walls or smth
tulip kettle
because he is just killing every elite all the time in situations where its obvious
long wharf
ah, without tagging?
lethal lagoon
⁽ᴵᵗ'ˢ ʳᵉᵃˡˡʸ ʰᵃʳᵈ ᵗᵒ ʰᵉᵃᵈˢʰᵒᵗ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵛᵒᶦᵈˢᵗʳᶦᵏᵉ ʷʰᵉⁿ ʸᵒᵘ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᴴᴾ ᵇᵃʳˢ ᵒⁿ ᴵ'ᵈ ᶦᵐᵃᵍᶦⁿᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵃᵐᵉ ᶦˢ ᵗʳᵘᵉ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵖˡᵃˢᵐᵃ⁾
hearty dagger
because he is just killing every elite all the time in situations where its obvi...
To be fair that could just be good target prioritization
tulip kettle
like, i knock down 6 ragers and 20 pox with trauma, killing 2 ragers and a bunch of pox
he instantly headshots the remaining ragers in the pile of stuff that is literally just a mass of body parts then moves on
that is obvious hp bar useage
i do it too!
but when you look out for it it becomes obvious who is using it and who isnt
lethal lagoon
I've had generally terrible vets grab elites super fast too, I think that's a plasma problem.
tulip kettle
random question
long wharf
plasma is great for removing elites from the field
tulip kettle
you ever play escape from tarkov?
long wharf
it's literally what it's best at
lethal lagoon
None of my friends ever wanted to play 
tulip kettle
in that game you ALSO get people gaslighting with "reasonable explanations" for what is obviously a different thing happening
hearty dagger
Cost too much monies
tulip kettle
in that game, its cheaters
hearty dagger
Yeah, though in Tarkov there is that one dude that 100% proved that yes, they are far too prevalent
tulip kettle
lol dude i could show you my playtime
i played that game for 5 years since alpha
i didnt need that video to know lol
long wharf
i played that game for 5 years since alpha
good lord you're a masochist
spice veldt
i mean at least in this case we don't have a video to go off on to see if it's obvious
hearty dagger
Unfortunately in Darktide there's no way to 100% prove that someone is running health bar mods short of bonking them with a shovel and going through their SSD
tulip kettle
its really very obvious when someone is using certain mods. I dont have a problem with them, and i use them myself. But i do dislike them because they can make the game significantly easier than the other players are expecting
spice veldt
i legitimately have never felt a strong probability as to whether a player was using healthbars or not
especially when you can ping
tulip kettle
"just" ping
spice veldt
the healthbars just let them be greedy and get the kills for themselves
and without revealing the enemy to other players
tulip kettle
requires you to aim at the enemy and ping them
hearty dagger
In short, we as Psyker chat wish all hp bar mod users a very nice whatever my cat is trying to do here
spice veldt
yes you can just ping
spice veldt
requires you to aim at the enemy and ping them
or just spam your ping button
i do it all the time by waving my mouse around and spamming my R key
tulip kettle
In short, we as Psyker chat wish all hp bar mod users a very nice whatever my ca...
i would instantly votekick you
sorry not you!
tulip kettle
i do it all the time by waving my mouse around and spamming my R key
you
hearty dagger
Bruh
long wharf
yeah, I'll spam my ping key when I see a haze or a group of enemies coming in
lyric burrow
he does not mean spam ping like
spice veldt
that's rude
lyric burrow
repinging it
lethal lagoon
I don't understand, are elites that hard to see in groups? They are all super obvious.
spice veldt
enemies don't get unpinged if it's the same enemy
tulip kettle
spam pinging doesnt imply that to me
spice veldt
if it's one enemy, spamming ping doesn't constantly reping them
tulip kettle
yes indeed
long wharf
yeah, I'll ping bosses just so I can see the damned things
hearty dagger
Sometimes they're like 25 kilometers away and you need a ping to properly line up a shot
tulip kettle
precisely, pinging is fine and is very useful
bold badger
Running purg staff at high perils, I would appreciate pings.
Gets hard to hear through all the voices and see through the fire.
tulip kettle
having everything pinged for free when others dont is making the game much easier for you, and consequently them
hearty dagger
I have a very simple translation sheet for pings
tulip kettle
but you will have twice their damage on the scoreboard
that you can then post on discord to show how big your epeen is
lethal lagoon
I'd venture having scoreboard on is responsible for that, not healthbars.
Other people just wanna win the round.
hearty dagger
Single enemy ping: Enemy here
Multiple enemy pings: OH FUCK I WALKED INTO 8 CRUSHERS
Location ping: Go here to not alert the DH/Get in the karking elevator
Many location pings: Misinput while trying to tag a bomber through his fire/"Please votekick me"
tulip kettle
oh for SURE dude
i have scoreboard to compare performance between different weapons on a talent build and such
tulip kettle
Single enemy ping: Enemy here
Multiple enemy pings: ***OH FUCK I WALKED INTO 8 C...
truth
lethal lagoon
same reason I use healthbars 🤷♂️ , without them I would have never realized wildfire is actually useful
hearty dagger
I like having friends with the scoreboard because i get to see the truly ludicrous amount of crits i drop.
tulip kettle
other people have scoreboard to show how they top score every game and that makes them a better person than you
hearty dagger
same reason I use healthbars 🤷♂️ , without them I would have never realized wi...
I realized it's useful after i somehow dropped like 5 shotgunners at the same time with just soulblaze
tulip kettle
no dude, dont you know?>
lethal lagoon
That's probably PC though
tulip kettle
wildfire is utter trash ofc
not me saying the opposite 3 weeks ago and getting slated by you guys in here
hearty dagger
other people have scoreboard to show how they top score every game and that make...
Funnily enough, my friend who runs the scoreboard plays zealot, runs ahead, always goes "WHAT THE FUCK" when he dies
ornate hamlet
does dum dum go to 4?
hearty dagger
And somehow runs face first into every DH.
lethal lagoon
not me saying the opposite 3 weeks ago and getting slated by you guys in here
To be fair, most of the people here stil hate wildfire.
hearty dagger
does dum dum go to 4?
Yes
tulip kettle
does dum dum go to 4?
yes
bold badger
other people have scoreboard to show how they top score every game and that make...
eh, I don't need a scoreboard to know I'm beter than most people I end up with in pubs. Having to res teams constantly solo tells me that well enough lol
tulip kettle
i had the weirdest game yesterday, i changed my loadout as we loaded in
and got martyrdom and piety
lethal lagoon
Is Blazing Spirit on Trauma and Void the only tier 3 only blessing?
hearty dagger
Man i need to re-learn how to meow.
Feels bad when my cat meows at me and the most i can reply with is what sounds like a broken whoopie cushion
long wharf
Is Blazing Spirit on Trauma and Void the only tier 3 only blessing?
for staves, I think so
lethal lagoon
In general
long wharf
yeah, I immediately thought of Blaze Away for guns
near drift
hot or not from melky here
tulip kettle
and got martyrdom and piety
you think it would be great, but for some reason i had like no toughness or toughness dmg reduction and i kept getting pasted
long wharf
hot or not from melky here
god no, Sour Milk the opposite of "hot"
tulip kettle
went down like 6 times in the one run, i was very embarassed
spice veldt
perfect strike
lethal lagoon
hot or not from melky here
I would yoink the bloodthristy since you have plenty of melkies.
tulip kettle
idk i would just buy and keep it
they might make blazing spirit on swords better one day, in which case this is a pretty sweet base no?
lethal lagoon
they might make blazing spirit on swords better one day, in which case this is a...
Yeah I guess.
long wharf
I've started holding on to well-rolled weapons in the hopes of future patches making them worthwhile
I'm basically out of t4 blessings on weapons I care about
lethal lagoon
I mean I did buy a Trauma with Surge for the same reason, though now it's the most meta staff ever.
opaque charm
Is this why we're here? Just to suffer?
tulip kettle
also, convince me why it would be bad to run a blazing/shred deimos with my blaze trauma
tulip kettle
Is this why we're here? Just to suffer?
the irony
lethal lagoon
Double fire has to be good
tulip kettle
like yeah yeah blazing sucks, but im already doing a crit and burning build, i guess with +5 and shred the crit rate has gotta be pretty high
i guess you only really apply it to tanky elites...
hmm
lethal lagoon
Even with scrier's gaze, it honestly doesn't feel like it applies enough soul blaze.
Just feels kind of dookie
long wharf
yeah, the problem is until you're applying soulblaze with every swing, it just doesn't feel good
and you have to invest so much to get anywhere near that, that you're hurting yourself in other ways
tulip kettle
i guess its also like, im 1 shotting most enemies with force swords anyway
long wharf
we should petition FartShack to revert Bloodthirsty on force swords
tulip kettle
and the ones you arent dont really care about 4-8 burn stacks
long wharf
put it back to how it was on release
lethal lagoon
Basically, yeah.
tulip kettle
tbh my overall experience of blaze trauma has been, yeah its fun, but the fire is so much less damage than just going rend and flurry
feral verge
tbh my overall experience of blaze trauma has been, yeah its fun, but the fire i...
this was my experience too
austere crest
DoT vs impact
feral verge
blaze trauma is good, it does alot of damage to everything
lethal lagoon
Speaking of healthbars, not having fire on trauma is kind of BM when you are knocking things everywhere.
Cause it's harder to tell what's still alive for you and your teammates
feral verge
but i prefer rending because it kills individual targets faster
tulip kettle
oh AGREED i hate trauma for this reason
lethal lagoon
Dead things can't be warpfired
Blaze Trauma is for flaming shriek spammers in my opinion, which I am.
tulip kettle
Cause it's harder to tell what's still alive for you and your teammates
completely agree and its why ive always disliked trauma, again cos it griefs the team
i want all 4 players to have fun when i go in, maybe im crazy
ALSO
it IS possible for dead things to burn and spread fire even
lethal lagoon
But warpfire helps both you and your team see what's alive.
And when someone perfectly headshots and executes a downed enemy 
tulip kettle
i dont know what allows it to happen
long wharf
Cause it's harder to tell what's still alive for you and your teammates
this is why you also turn down number of ragdolls to minimum
tulip kettle
but i have seen it
long wharf
that way, if you still see a body, then it's still alive
tulip kettle
but then my game is less fun
lethal lagoon
^
long wharf
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tulip kettle
less bodies and bodyparts and gore to get better score is peak soy behaviour
long wharf
I used to have ragdolls cranked up
tulip kettle
same as posting scoreboards
lethal lagoon
same as posting scoreboards
tulip kettle
did everyone have fun? awesome mission successful.
long wharf
then I got tired of enemies being knocked around and not knowing which were still alive without running around and swinging at everything on the ground
tulip kettle
then I got tired of enemies being knocked around and not knowing which were stil...
so you turned on health bars 😄
tulip kettle
yeah im trollin dude
long wharf
scoreboard, talent tree node switch one
and weapon customization
that's basically it
tulip kettle
then I got tired of enemies being knocked around and not knowing which were stil...
but its useful for that, no? strong, even? you could say, it makes the game easier, perhaps? 😄
i recently got into custom HuD
long wharf
.. did you intentionally not capitalize the 'u'?
tulip kettle
idk you just pointed it out and im at a loss
long wharf
it's Heads Up Display
long wharf
HUD
orchid shadow
I have to assume that almost everything behind my teammates is alive. Not a game passes where my teammates don't just run ahead in search of the next big pack to pad their score and leave behind stray gunners and ragers for me to deal with as I guard the rear.
tulip kettle
yeah dude i dont disagree lol
lethal lagoon
That makes me picture you saying HUD like Huuuud.
long wharf
maybe he was thinking Heads Uwup Display
tulip kettle
but yeah i just wanted custom for moving the ability icon and putting thrust next to the crosshair
definitely useful
lethal lagoon
ThrustMaxingᵗᵐ doesn't fit with your earlier argument
tulip kettle
idk i guess i just dont understand why mods are enabled in open public lobbies, its weird
long wharf
because FartShack can't stop people from using mods
tulip kettle
ThrustMaxingᵗᵐ doesn't fit with your earlier argument <:Madge:104444798736925083...
neither does me using HP bars and 3rd person
tulip kettle
i can be a hypocrite, as long as i dont post scoreboards and brag about how much better than my non mod using teammates i am 😄
tulip kettle
for a base
i think the second
lethal lagoon
Well no, it's not hypocritcal to say it's cheating, a cheater would know best after all.
Complaining about the plasma vet was weird though
tulip kettle
dude, 4 players went into the game to play it
only the plasma vet got to play the game
lethal lagoon
That's a plasma problem though
tulip kettle
plasma + hp bars problem
ornate hamlet
im feeling the first one but is the second one better?
tulip kettle
but i agree
tulip kettle
im feeling the first one but is the second one better?
the second is better
but really mobility is the dump stat
lethal lagoon
Second is better yes
ornate hamlet
cool cool ty ty
feral verge
check out this plasma vet i encountered yesterday. think he's in this server actually. @spice veldt this you? kinda cringe to blow yourself up at the starting elevator at relay station. bad at game
spice veldt
mankar put poison in my mutton
tulip kettle
haha
long wharf
what a noob
tulip kettle
i can honestly say, hand on heart, i have never blown up from plasma
even if you shoot on 100% you dont blow up
long wharf
I did the first time I used it
tulip kettle
like, how do you do it lol
long wharf
you go nuts with charged shots
feral verge
like, how do you do it lol
ask @spice veldt
long wharf
I blew myself up on purpose last week? I think
tulip kettle
charging it 🤮
long wharf
in the dropship
spice veldt
ask <@297182781346152448>
i help you and this is how you repay me?
i should've stayed alive just to blow a burster up onto you
lethal lagoon
I've seen that screenshot a couple times at this point
spice veldt
maelstrom duo beginning from minute 3 (which is when arco blows a burster up on mankar and thus becomes content with life)
that's what it should've been
feral verge
this is even funnier
that @spice veldt guy
literally did no damage
the whole game
so fucking bad lmao
spice veldt
i'm recording the next time i tbag you
spice veldt
manky boo
feral verge
arco trash
spice veldt
very original (not)
quartz barn
never used a health station tho, truly a team player
tulip kettle
to backtrack a bit
bloodthirsty on release?
i have my B helmets but i was noob at tide back then
what was different about it?
long wharf
at release, Bloodthirsty was 5 seconds of guaranteed critical hits on special kill
on force swords
tulip kettle
oh it lasted 5 seconds
long wharf
it was changed in the patch that also added Illisi and Deimos fswords
tulip kettle
instead of 1 hit
long wharf
yep
tulip kettle
thats insane
long wharf
yeah, would have been amazing with Illisi
I dreamed of having Bloodthirsty + Blazing Spirit fsword
never got Bloodthirsty before the change
spice veldt
an old video i made to demo crit breakpoints with bloodthirsty https://streamable.com/r0ine0
rigid sky
Bloodthirsty currently is kinda... not completely terrible with Illisi
It's like power Cycler III at home
rigid sky
It's passable
long wharf
there are much better options now
rigid sky
But if you've got a beginner's Illisi, and you're stuck with it because you need to change 2 of the other attributes more, it'll do
mighty fractal
Oh yeah pfhoenix
Fun little blast from the past, building off the convo from earlier
long wharf
my father used Deluxe Paint on the PC
mighty fractal
Actually it’s a pretty long article
long wharf
Deluxe Paint was the computer graphics tool for a good bit
mighty fractal
I need to ask my dad what he used specifically
I’m sure he used it at some point. He did some key art for the original Dragon’s Lair (god how did I mix that up)
I grew up with photoshop back when that was new, in the early 90s
long wharf
and the way artists used the nature of TV displays to get color smudging/fading was very clever
Photoshop released in 1990
mighty fractal
Yeah I’m a 1993 baby
Honestly after King of Fighters 13, i don’t think we’re ever seeing the return of fighting games with sprites lol
long wharf
well there's no reason to
mighty fractal
It’s only for nostalgia and artistic purposes
long wharf
the higher the expected base resolution, the more work it is to do sprites
mighty fractal
From a dev standpoint, you spend tons of money and months of dev to create… one character
long wharf
now, you could always render down models to sprites
but you're still generating potentially gigs of sprite data for high resolutions
mighty fractal
That’s usually what happens now
It’s either that or small games will use them
But it’s just not feasible for big projects anymore
long wharf
nope
mighty fractal
And i think people are tired of sprites after the 2010s trend of 16bit-alikes
long wharf
nah, I disagree with that entirely
mighty fractal
People want chunky psx graphics now
long wharf
a solid sprite art style works wonders, still
Terraria is still selling strong
Core Keeper is getting decent sales still
low resolution sprite style is still popular, and a lot less work than high resolution sprite work
mighty fractal
True, people still love Stardew too
long wharf
absolutely
mighty fractal
Sprites in general are neat for giving small art lots of detail
long wharf
frankly, people trying to appeal to PSX/1 style aesthetics don't really understand why people look fondly on that stuff
mighty fractal
lots of people make still sprite art just to be sprite art
mighty fractal
frankly, people trying to appeal to PSX/1 style aesthetics don't really understa...
Ayup
long wharf
PS1-era style wasn't particularly good at all
it was simply the best we had at the time
mighty fractal
A lot of it is people who grew up late into its lifecycle
long wharf
there's a false nostalgia associated with PS1 style graphics
it's the classic nature of the titles, not the graphics, that are remembered fondly
when I see an indie game advertize that art style, I immediately pass on it
orchid shadow
long wharf
ohhh, I had that magazine
it may look like ass, but real-time textured polygons was not a common thing then
austere crest
What a time to be alive
long wharf
Unreal 1 also had dynamic textures, which was poorly dressed-up automata modifying texture memory
Unreal was an amazing technical achievement
austere crest
Late 90s?
austere crest
It had to be around there with Street Fighter 3 on the cover
long wharf
I still have my original Unreal CD in a binder somewhere in my office
long wharf
@tulip kettle when were you an arcade technician?
long wharf
ah okay, waaay after my father stopped making arcade games
tulip kettle
and i spent more time fixing the 3 lane 10 pin skittles machine than anything else
long wharf
skittles machine?
tulip kettle
lol no
long wharf
okay 🙂
tulip kettle
its definitely a euro thing
that and cleaning gum/crisps/bodily fluids out of coin mechs
job was way less glamorous than youd expect
long wharf
yeah, I won't ask about that
mighty fractal
it's the classic nature of the titles, not the graphics, that are remembered fon...
Late but yeah, psx/turn of the century graphics have a certain uncanny charm - however, that charm comes from the devs and artists adjusting awkwardly to new tech, trying to make higher quality textures with very crude tools, etc
it’s a very of-the-era thing that you can’t just turn into a dumb aesthetic
tulip kettle
i did enjoy working on the older machines the arcade actually owned, we had some "big rig truckin" cabs from i can only guess the late 80's / early 90s that were always breaking
tulip kettle
it’s a very of-the-era thing that you can’t just turn into a dumb aesthetic
completely agree to an extent, but surely you could say the same about 8 bit?
mighty fractal
Yeah for sure, though i think 2d sprite work gets more of a ‘pass’ since there’s an understanding that it’s more like a 2d illustration
I need to think about that one
lol i remember those Eighteen wheeler trucker cabs
upper sun
WHY does melk always give me a prebricked version of any weapon i talk about here?
lyric burrow
an old video i made to demo crit breakpoints with bloodthirsty https://streamabl...
do not tempt me to use Obscurus
tulip kettle
WHY does melk always give me a prebricked version of any weapon i talk about her...
just.... dont buy it
upper sun
no its just weird
quartz barn
ngl you only use melk for easy t4s to unlock on actual good gear
upper sun
i talked about illisi yesterday and i got a bricked one in the store
unique mist
WHY does melk always give me a prebricked version of any weapon i talk about her...
You know melk is only useful for getting blessings you dont have
upper sun
sometimes you get good stuff
tulip kettle
melk tried to sell me 75 power stam curios nearly all week last week
magic kayak
for gunker is this shaping up to be decent? I had to swap blessings so I didn't accidentally get another dumdum on it
quartz barn
bonus points if you get the better melk mod so you're no longer needed to interact with him for bounties
tulip kettle
okay, this can be good yes, see what else you get
upper sun
i know nothing about zealot but this doesnt seem too bad
magic kayak
I just am not sure if I should be doing carapace of flak
magic kayak
because it had a crap blessing
tulip kettle
you could have rolled dumdum on the second my dude?
magic kayak
yeah you're right haha
tulip kettle
i would swap carapace for unyielding, personally
magic kayak
welp, lesson learned hah
tulip kettle
then pray to get a good second blessing
llike, columnus is just not what you want to be using vs carapace enemies
use your sword or whatever
and with maniac, everything else except reapers, bulwarks and bosses will die very, bery fast
magic kayak
fair point - so maybe swap blessing back to something else, hope for dum dum or fire frenzy
on second blessing
tulip kettle
as youve already done it
i would swap dumdum to whichever blessing you have unlocked that you DONT want
before i upgraded it
tulip kettle
then upgrade, swap the blessing back to dumdum if i dont roll it, then swap carapace to unyielding
magic kayak
yeah agreed
put raking fire on it. This way at least there is a chance I get dumdum on it
tulip kettle
build fully into crits on your tree and make sure you get true aim
magic kayak
yep I have the gunker build already - was using revolver and mkii caxe
tulip kettle
if you get firefrenzy or deathspitter or dumdum you are onto a winner its look
looking like
magic kayak
ah ok so deathspitter is the other. I had a crap rolled gold with deathspitter and dum dum. Had to sacrifice it for dum dum blessing unlock
its a shame you can't reroll stats
tulip kettle
yeah deathspitter stacks in the same way as firefrenzy, it just doesnt show it, i believe
and tbh you dont need to, dockets arent exactly hard to come by
magic kayak
yeah but the odds of getting solid stats and then all the other rolls you need are much lower than finding 2 good pairings of blessings and perks
tulip kettle
on most weapons it doesnt matter that much
as long as you at least HAVE the blessings you want
magic kayak
right now a god tier weapon is stats + at least 2 perks or blessings, or 1 of each just like you want
yeah I'd agree, perks aren't exactly the end all be all
thats the axe im using
tulip kettle
any caxe with BM is just... very good.
magic kayak
carapace I mostly take out with my revolver, if I switch to the columbus I might have to swap back to dueling sword?
tulip kettle
precisely
magic kayak
tulip kettle
and maybe take assail if you dont
magic kayak
I do take assail
tulip kettle
perfect
magic kayak
helps not use all the ammo
tulip kettle
precisely
tulip kettle
it also means you can freely magdump your columnus at anything that isnt a crusher or trash and it will die super fast
magic kayak
So assail to start killing mob, then columnus while peril starts going down
tulip kettle
well you can use gun on trash, but mainly use assail and the sword
between the 2 your horde clear is plenty fast even though DS isnt great on its own
magic kayak
makes sense
tulip kettle
then the gun is for elites that arent crushers, specials, and monsters
magic kayak
ah gotcha
tulip kettle
perfect
magic kayak
hard to put down the caxe haha. the DS is pretty sweet though
tulip kettle
the mobility and dps vs crushers and 1 shots on mutants is very nice
magic kayak
I do enjoy the heavy stab to the face as they rush at you
tulip kettle
which is literally what you want it for, as well as the odd bit of spamming to mop up hordes
magic kayak
makes sense and its really good at it
tulip kettle
enjoy
magic kayak
thanks
spice veldt
hopium and yellow toughness
i assume yellow toughness since i don't think you can get the stats to survive a crusher overhead on psyker
though i didn't really test too much
spice veldt
trajedy
wind spruce
You defo can't block them even with max blocking perks etc
spice veldt
yeah i suppose players just don't expect some attacks to be unblockable since it's not explained and most attacks are blockable
but you would hope that people would test stuff before saying it...
upper sun
https://outplayed.tv/media/V8g6Yg
NOW try it again with deflector
wind spruce
Deflector doesn't affect melee attacks
The % block efficiency only applies to ranged
upper sun
really?
wind spruce
Truly
upper sun
i thought it added the range blocked and gave block efficiency
damn
eh its still nice
spice veldt
duelling swords also have a better block cost than force swords even if the deflector's block eff would apply to melee
force swords have a frontal block cost of 1 bar, and the mk2/4 duelling swords have a block cost of 0.5 bars
upper sun
eh youre better off dodging than blocking most times
spice veldt
the mk5 has ~0.33 block cost at 80% defense
wind spruce
You can block reapers for ages though
https://outplayed.tv/media/MrGBlE
mighty fractal
The true strength for the force sword block is actually the push attack
wind spruce
Not optimal, but amusing
upper sun
the ranged block is really nice tho
mighty fractal
The shove is strong enough to knock over literally anything that isn’t a boss, even crushers mid-overhead or ragers during their flurry
And it has good range for a shove, too
upper sun
whats the effect range for the ranged block?
spice veldt
i dislike the push-attack on force swords nowadays though it's still nice
i'd prefer an offensive push-attack
upper sun
like just your field of vision right?
mighty fractal
I imagine this is why the shove used to cost peril lol
Yeah i understand the desire for an actual push attack
spice veldt
the old force sword push also had a larger range and other bells and whistles that i don't know about since i hadn't played psyker at that time
mighty fractal
It’s less of an issue on the Deimos since you can follow up the shove with a heavy
But still
mighty fractal
the old force sword push also had a larger range and other bells and whistles th...
Psyker also used to be able to vent peril on block
spice veldt
oh yeah the push/attack chaining into h2 is nice for the deimos
mighty fractal
So barring disablers and fire puddles, you could revive without worry if you took Kinetic Deflection
upper sun
It’s less of an issue on the Deimos since you can follow up the shove with a hea...
nah now you block push dodge and run away now the enemy is 50 meters away and you're hiding behind your ogryn like the emperor intended
spice veldt
oh kinetic deflection not stopping the passive quell
mighty fractal
It was pretty funny
wind spruce
It was gold
mighty fractal
Knife suddenly became an amazing defensive weapon
spice veldt
yeah 0.5 for the mk3 and probably for mk6
mighty fractal
Yeah KD is still super clutch for revives in general
I just want Siennas dagger back in the form of a force dagger ;_;
wind spruce
But psyker can't even block a rager for 1s
upper sun
force dagger but the alt attack is a throwing knife
potent echo
But psyker can't even block a rager for 1s
I guess if you sprinted everywhere like a poopoostinky you too would despair when the stamina tax collector comes around the corner
wind spruce
The thing is that barely even matters, since our stam regen delay is so short we'll have stamina back between each hit
potent echo
I think that's not true
wind spruce
Obviously not if you're getting attacked by a bunch of stuff
But with KD life is easy
wind spruce
Crutch implies you're relying on it when you shouldn't, right?
kind sequoia
Damn, psyker is so awesome, i can't believe i used to be a zealot enjoyer
it will be my main character from now on
radiant frigate
Yes
long wharf
KD is a nice to have, I guess, but I mostly have it because I'm getting True Aim
radiant frigate
i definitely get a feeling of "ah frick ah heck" on rager waves
that is to say, i used to
back when i ran SG
now there is only shriek :)
life is good
ornate hamlet
Shriek enjoyers
wind spruce
back when i ran SG
Ragers still don't scare me with SG, +3 stam helps with that. It's not necessary but boy do I enjoy it
long wharf
+3 stam is wonderful QoL
wind spruce
KD is a nice to have, I guess, but I mostly have it because I'm getting True Aim
The only weapon I don't run it with is trauma
sharp shoal
gonna do warp battery tommorrow with a friend
long wharf
no reason to get True Aim with trauma
wind spruce
I meant KD
long wharf
I figured, and my statement still stands 🙂
sharp shoal
works for bulwarks reapers and crushers to
long wharf
I only ever have KD because I want True Aim
radiant frigate
Ragers still don't scare me with SG, +3 stam helps with that. It's not necessary...
i just have bad memories of getting run over by rager waves as the last one standing
rather unpleasant
radiant frigate
maulers are slow
mighty fractal
Silent maulers >
potent echo
Balanced loadout still seems to be key
radiant frigate
ragers are fast
mighty fractal
Silent bursters, actually >
sharp shoal
the maulers only need the one hit tho
potent echo
Silent bursters, actually >
Been happening alot actually, so annoying
sharp shoal
ragers take several
radiant frigate
give me burster DR on curios tyvm
potent echo
You only hear it as it's already rounding the corner why
mighty fractal
Yeah and one burster does like half our health or more, because psyker has no universal damage reduction
sharp shoal
i don't like the fear of being one hit if im slow on staggering a mauler
mighty fractal
I’ll take no damage for 80% of an auric and then suddenly one sneaky burster puts me into the danger zone
sharp shoal
true
potent echo
Rager is scary on low stam, means on little hit is enough to slow you down into all the other bullshit
long wharf
psyker can get okay toughness damage reduction
nowhere near what vet and zealot can get, though
potent echo
Yea
long wharf
yep
potent echo
Deimos gang
long wharf
that's what +maniac is for
sharp shoal
i can't do that to maulers
potent echo
If there's 3 or more you do push attack
sharp shoal
its why they scare me
potent echo
So good
sharp shoal
they are slower
potent echo
Maulers also die to push attack
sharp shoal
yeah
mighty fractal
Yeah if we had Iron Will instead of Ine with the Warp
potent echo
Do that more
mighty fractal
hoo boy
sharp shoal
but they do way more dmg
spice veldt
ragers are spookier to me because they have an easy time encroaching your space and have attacks that can't be spot-dodged
potent echo
Yeah if we had Iron Will instead of Ine with the Warp
No other class has base kit horde clear though
sharp shoal
you think someone else has a mauler aggroed then i got hit in the back by a mauler and was downed instantly
i was killing the crusher
then got hit
mighty fractal
No other class has base kit horde clear though <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972444420...
Or seven bajillion ways to regen toughness like we do
mighty fractal
Ogryn has two main ways to regen massive amounts of toughness, but he needs to melee stuff (Inspiring Barrage aside)
potent echo
"why didn't you dodgeee"
lyric burrow
deimos will also knock maulers over on headshot heavy 2
mighty fractal
Inspiring Barrage is great on ogryn, too bad it’s ripper-only
mighty fractal
deimos will also knock maulers over on headshot heavy 2
It’ll flatten crushers out of their overheads too
potent echo
I assume it's a bug
sharp shoal
trauma has good cc
it has to be a certain lvl of charge u[
up
to stagger tho
it won't stagger or knock over otherwise
urban sandal
you also have to time it if you want to fully stunlock things like crushers
sharp shoal
i always fully charge it
then they fall over
and the 2nd hit kills sometimes not always
cause rending
spice veldt
https://tenor.com/view/plane-momma-dead-shoes-raggedy-gif-18267608
i hope you get burstered by josho
sharp shoal
oof
i think ima try to peril kill a rager
for my penance
seems fun
only thing is they got more health then most other elites
minus the ogs
im taking a break for a bit
lyric burrow
josho did not commit burster crimes when exhil and i were there today
spice veldt
this is so sad
feral verge
josho did not commit burster crimes when exhil and i were there today
he only committed against himself, iirc
once or twice
spice veldt
dum bith
ornate hamlet
bih ahh mf
primal plume
after playing DT since closed beta, finally got it. Repair missions just suck ass
sharp shoal
cause i was tryna kill the approaching burtster
they ran up as soon as i popped it
and they flew off the map
they did keep trying to run ahead
so i didn't feel bad
but they brought it on themselves
potent echo
Happens
ornate hamlet
New Lucceia pfp moment
potent echo
Also barrels
long wharf
after playing DT since closed beta, finally got it. Repair missions just suck as...
I finally got that a couple weeks ago
and to think that there are people who have done all penances
wind spruce
after playing DT since closed beta, finally got it. Repair missions just suck as...
Ehhh I got my mission improbable yesterday
primal plume
New Lucceia pfp moment
wut
dusk sierra
any advice on what to do with this? Low first target feelsbad but this seems like it's worth finishing craftin
i totally forgot I had this lmao
sharp shoal
no precog or riposte
uncanny would be good to
shred ain't to bad
but unless your doing a sb build blazing won't help much
dusk sierra
I'm thinking of just leaning into blazing spirit but havent played psyker properly in a while
dusk sierra
yeah I figured I'd just use it for a SB build
sharp shoal
im using a bb build with soul blaze
and trauma
if i do pop a bb with melee on deimos
it occasionally lights stuff on fire
if it pops the elite
but the bb popping is random on what it targets
dusk sierra
I got one of those builds rn
using this w BB and warp siphon as my keystone (venting as ability)\
so if im keeping demios keep shred?
SB I mean
wind spruce
@dusk sierra I don't recommend soul blaze on the deimos or any other force sword, it's just very underwhelming. With the exception of Monstrosities, you won't be able to build enough soul blaze up to make a meaningful difference before the target is already dead
Thats a very nice trauma staff, though
empty shuttle
I am having issues with the game crashing only when I am using the disrupt destiny psyker. all other builds and characters run smooth
Anyone had this happen to them? Is it one of the mods?
lethal lagoon
Weapon's custom mod causes memeory leak crashes for me
Only mod I know that might have issues, some people don't have this issue.
spice veldt
entering my inventory is a death sentence for my game
i am guaranteed to crash within 1-2 games if i dare to enter my inventory multiple times
lethal lagoon
empty shuttle
Weapon's custom mod causes memeory leak crashes for me
I dont have it
empty shuttle
entering my inventory is a death sentence for my game
my crashes are only happening during the mission and only on DD psyker
severe folio
alright what news do we got
empty shuttle
I am having issues with the game crashing only when I am using the disrupt desti...
@severe folio
spice veldt
yeah my game also tends to crash midgame
entering my inventory increases the probability of that
empty shuttle
entering my inventory increases the probability of that
how do I even enter the inventory midgame?
tidal scaffold
what is your best advice for someone playing assail psyker wanting to mainly use assail
severe folio
interesting
i do not know about that bug
but that sound like a big blunder for someone like me
since i use DD a lot
empty shuttle
since i use DD a lot
I wanna try it but my game keeps crashing
urban sandal
what is your best advice for someone playing assail psyker wanting to mainly use...
play low difficulties
tidal scaffold
ive heard if you have a large inventory of items it can make it worse, whether thats a placebo or not i cannot say
tidal scaffold
play low difficulties
cmon
urban sandal
I'm serious
tidal scaffold
i want real advice thank you
i dont want to fight joe and his 13 infected friends
i want hordes
urban sandal
you cant use assail as a main weapon in high difficulties
tidal scaffold
I understand there will be situations i will have to switch my weapons
I want more experienced advice than play low difficulties im not saying you play low difficulties but like i want more detailed advice than that
spice veldt
how do I even enter the inventory midgame?
no i mean that i'm entering my inventory when i'm out of a game
and then that increases my probability of crashing as my game runs