psyker-class

[inland ridge]

haha that does sound like fun time

[wind spruce]

never take block efficiency on a weapon over stamina, particularly if you have kinetic deflection

[cosmic sigil]

I said "at that point, I'd rather"

But yeah, Stam on a weapon would be better

[wind spruce]

at that point you should take stam on the weapon to get more toughness/hp on curios

[cosmic sigil]

Actually Stam on weapon and 1 Stam curios is a better deal

Yeah totally

I have some stripped columnus with +2 stam

It's glorious

[wind spruce]

lol ive never actually fkd around with that

it would be pretty funny

run sprint efficiency with it too for the lols

[cosmic sigil]

Especially with vet's duck and dive + sprint eff

[wind spruce]

yeah

[inland ridge]

that dmg whew

[mighty fractal]

I'd still rather take one hp curio on psyker

just to reach ~200hp

it helps a lot for random bursters, sniper shots, and mauler sideswipes

[cosmic sigil]

yeah i agree, only i have below 200 (mind you it's 180/190 ish) is vet, but with shout and iron will...

[ebon dune]

Thoughts on perks to use for MkV?

[unique mist]

most of the damage from such a build would come from venting shriek soulblaze which you can run two ways. warp charges for better uptime on venting shriek, or empowered psionics for better smite. up to you

[wind spruce]

Maniacs for sure

2nd perk is build dependant

[cunning plinth]

question:

i saw some showcases that had gunpsyker with the correct build stack borderline stupid amounts of seperate multipliers to almost one clip a beast of nurgle.
I know its not a very common build but is ammo, especially for the team, an issue if the psyker actually uses ammo itself?

(ive only ever played staves)

[vestal fulcrum]

No, but that kind of depends on what type of firearm you’re using

(Re: ammo usage)

[cunning plinth]

the balanced autorifle that fires super fast but i keep forgetting the name

[vestal fulcrum]

“Balanced”

Probably Columnus

[cunning plinth]

you know the one

yeah thats it

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn’t worry terribly about the lack of ammo on this particular gun

It’s a large reserve and gets a lot of it back from ammo packs

[patent wing]

what perk am i using for horde dmg? infested or unarmoured? (on my knife)

[vestal fulcrum]

Each applies to a different type of horde enemies

[patent wing]

one is locked at stamina :/

[stuck sinew]

Infested more important as poxwalkers are tougher than groaners

[vestal fulcrum]

Infested is generally “better” for committing a perk to horde clear though, I concur

[cunning plinth]

yeah, ive seen either that build with absolutly stupid damage output, or the left side of the tree with any of the good staves and then running the perk that reduces team CD on elite kill with cd reduction aura so that everybody just gets to spamm their ults, but wasnt sure if the gunpsyker one is unpopular for reasons other than being unintuitive

[patent wing]

or maybe just straight 10% melee dmg against poxwalkers and groaners

[dense crow]

Huh

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s not a great perk

[wind spruce]

No, it's not an issue. That gun psyker could have been an ogryn, vet or zealot who also need ammo.

[dense crow]

I love gun psyker. The sheer power of the Columnus crit build with gaze is crazy

[wind spruce]

I run the columnus scriers build with smite or brain burst so I can pick up psykinetics aura

[tulip kettle]

that can be good but only in certain very specific situations.

[patent wing]

it needs 2 and 1/4 magazines to kill a chaos spawn tho (without dd stacks)

[tulip kettle]

you can tell what you need quite easily

[patent wing]

and only headshots

[vestal fulcrum]

I suppose some sensation against it is the fact there is little warp-based things to interact with if you’re playing a gun Psyker (your ability and blitz), hence some people might not like to fulfil that fantasy

[tulip kettle]

go into grinder on damnation, hit the poxwalker one time

on non weakspot

see what the dmg is

[vestal fulcrum]

But then who am I to judge

[tulip kettle]

same for weakspot

[patent wing]

one tapping a beast of nurgle is only poossible with like 30 stacks and only weakspot hits

[dense crow]

Only headshots on chaos spawn is wild

[vestal fulcrum]

Gun Psyker certainly is OK

[wind spruce]

Gun psyker is extremely strong

[patent wing]

yeah it can solo a5 runs

its even better to solo with gunker

[wind spruce]

If you can solo an auric damnation you probably don't need an OP build

[patent wing]

noone stealing ur ammo lol

[vestal fulcrum]

People don’t typically solo HISTG

[tulip kettle]

columnus does silly damage to monstrosities on gunpsyker specifically because of the crit string mechanic combined with its base unyielding modifier

[patent wing]

i want that modifier on my surge so bad

[tulip kettle]

it is not unreasonable to solo any of the monstosities in under 20 seconds in a real game

[vestal fulcrum]

Let’s be real - it does silly damage to everything

[patent wing]

against carapace u need to hit the head tho

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah but its meant specifically because of monstrosities due to base unyielding and crit chaining

[cunning plinth]

im usually more drawn towards supporty builds, as in perma bubble and teamwide cd reset, but making stuff be dead counts as a form of support i guess. Its like smiting a mixed horde when i could just "kill it" instead with a void and or trauma staff. But again, i havent played it myself so far so i cant judge it really. And i wonder how much of it is the gun being stupid, and how much of it is actually psyker.

[vestal fulcrum]

There is a good reason the primary ranged weapons I see in lobbies is Plasma on Vet, and Columnus or Zarona revolver on everyone else (and sometimes on Vet also)

[cunning plinth]

(just came back like, 2 weeks ago)

[patent wing]

zarona is such a nice weapon and my aim with it is somewhy superior in comparison to all other weapons

[tulip kettle]

why run revolver on psyker

[patent wing]

its shit with bolter for some reason

[wind spruce]

Is carapace just bc locks

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[vestal fulcrum]

For that western gunslinger feel

[wind spruce]

😦

[tulip kettle]

but its still FINE

[wind spruce]

Oh for sure

[tulip kettle]

means i can deal with crushers okayish with it

[vestal fulcrum]

Wild West and warp powers come hand in hand

[tulip kettle]

and flak dies so fast anyway

[wind spruce]

Yeah I run flak maniac most of the time

[tulip kettle]

right but like, the revolver is good on other classes for a reason

you are missing out by not running unyielding.

anyway, the revolver on psyker doesnt make much sense

when you have access to the voidstrike staff

[wind spruce]

I'll run it if it's a weak monstrosities modifer

[tulip kettle]

unless you are specifically doing a gun build where you kill melee with trash and assail

[wind spruce]

Otherwise meh

[tulip kettle]

it works on bulwarks and reapers too

the only other thing you struggle with

[patent wing]

u got a taste

[cunning plinth]

actually, just having played around with blitzes, is it weird im not using them that much? assail seems pretty meh and i find myself mostly using it to longrange kill a sniper, and BB p much only vs crushers/shields and maulers. but i might be undervaluing them.

[wind spruce]

I do like the bulwark use case

[cunning plinth]

(sorry for the baby questions)

[wind spruce]

Get them before their shield goes up

[tulip kettle]

nikolai, all of the blitzes have different uses

[wind spruce]

Stupid fucks

[tulip kettle]

generally in this game, between your gun, melee, and blitz, you should be able to deal with every threat

[cunning plinth]

they just seem to come up rarer than i thought they would

yeah

[tulip kettle]

so you want the blitz to complement your other stuff

[wind spruce]

Assail is not meh, but yeah if you're running smite and BB you shouldn't be using them that much

[patent wing]

the assail nerf made it unplayable xd

[cunning plinth]

but maybe the op assail era warped my expectations too much

[stuck sinew]

Smite with EP kinda fun sometimes tbf

[tulip kettle]

for example, on a gunpsyker, you want your gun for killing elites, your melee for killing armoured elites, and assail to weave in for horde thinning

[wind spruce]

This is just clowning. It's still great

[tulip kettle]

im an assail hater

but i admit its very good still at what its for

[wind spruce]

Yeah I don't even run it with my columnus

[patent wing]

needs ep and 2 points extra

[tulip kettle]

lol, disagree.

[wind spruce]

It does not need ep or quick shards

[tulip kettle]

assail specifically is for killing trash

these days

[patent wing]

u mean for killing ragers

[wind spruce]

It's also for staggering stuff

[tulip kettle]

ragers are included with trash, but no, thats what the gun is for

[wind spruce]

And you need to weave assail in to what you're otherwise doing

[stuck sinew]

Assail still great at mulching shotgun/gunner patrols

[flint aspen]

which staff and blitz is a good boss fight damage dealer?

[wind spruce]

Not sitting there spamming 5 or 6

[tulip kettle]

BB for monstrosity dmg

but its still not great unless you specifically build for it

[patent wing]

if i play gunker i cant use any other source of peril because then i cant use gaze

[wind spruce]

You can switch to assail, shoot two shards and switch back in less than 0.5s

[tulip kettle]

right,m and you are why people hate gunker.

[wind spruce]

You can shoot two shards during a slide

[patent wing]

?

[tulip kettle]

people who play gunker then shoot the trash hordes and take all the ammo are why people hate gun psykers

[wind spruce]

You can 100% use assail during scriers

[tulip kettle]

you need to use assail instead of your gun

[patent wing]

i have my melee for hordes i only use gun against specials and elites

[tulip kettle]

....

[cunning plinth]

so just to get that right. BB for carapace at range and or the sniper way too far away,
smite for when we cant back up, like after a drop,and a group of friendly crushers wants to ask us our opinions on nurgle, and assail for horde/mixed horde thinning if im running a nonstaff or surge build, where spraying down soft elites and or hordes is too much of a waste

is that "sort of" right?

thats the vibe ive gotten so far at least

[tulip kettle]

what melee weapon are you using

[patent wing]

mk6 knife

[tulip kettle]

spot on

[patent wing]

or illisi

[flint aspen]

BB for monstrosities, which staff for monstrosities?

[tulip kettle]

illisi on gunker

[wind spruce]

The only blitz good at monstrosities is BB. None of the staffs are great but it purg and surge are the superior ones

[tulip kettle]

is wut

[cunning plinth]

🫡

[tulip kettle]

voistrike can stagger them

[patent wing]

yeah because i dont use assail

[tulip kettle]

purgatus is technically the fastest dps

[patent wing]

i need horde clear

[tulip kettle]

yeah its a strange way to build gunker

[wind spruce]

You're killing it

[patent wing]

if i play solo i need knife tho

[tulip kettle]

may i introduce you

to our lord and saviour

MK4DS

[patent wing]

yeah it sucks against hordes

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword is the best psyker melee

There is no question.

[wind spruce]

It's fine. Just chuck on rampage and go to town.

[stuck sinew]

Mk2 is slightly better at hordes

[cunning plinth]

its a very minor complaint but weapons i cant quell on feels really annoying muscle memory wise if i got so used to deimos/blaze and staves

[wind spruce]

Train yourself out of this

[tulip kettle]

you dont need to quell at all on gunker anyway

[cunning plinth]

ill have to

[wind spruce]

Force swords have a -50% quell rate

So you should always switch to your staff if you have one

[tulip kettle]

and if you do just press your blitz

[cunning plinth]

yeah (gunker is a bit away though anyway, im poor and dont have a non awful roll of the good guns anway)

[wind spruce]

Bro the knife isn't good against hordes either. Definitely not better than DS4.

[patent wing]

more cleave and bleed and mercy killer

[wind spruce]

Lmao

Bleed isn't going to do jack shit against hordes

Neither is mercy killer

[cunning plinth]

the opinion on the force swords seems to be "would be cool, sadly the DS and knives exist"

[stuck sinew]

Bleed is a noob trap

[patent wing]

yeah but it gives mercy killer

a way to work

[wind spruce]

On already dead enemies

By the time you crit it it will be dead

[patent wing]

lol the knife aint gonna one shot hordes

[stuck sinew]

Executor/uncanny >>>> mercy killer/bleed

[patent wing]

will try ece

[stuck sinew]

MkVI knife can somewhat use haymaker if you want to spice it up

[wind spruce]

If you're on pc get keen proofs scoreboard and look at your bleed damage

[patent wing]

haymaker bad

[wind spruce]

It's always jack shit shit as psyker

[cunning plinth]

actually actally, since its hard to tell from just base auric IV and the occasional lvl V run, is the firebuild with purgatus considered to be somewhat scuffed compared to the alteratives?

[wind spruce]

It's better on hordes than your blessings

[wind spruce]

Yes

[stuck sinew]

It's ok on the MkVI because of the sweep heavies

[patent wing]

lol u gonna be dead already before u finish teh chrage

heavies way to slow and only 20% on max stacks

[wind spruce]

Heavies aren't too slow

[patent wing]

to slow for big hordes

[wind spruce]

L1 h2 is the best combo for mixing dps with safety

[stuck sinew]

Staying at max stacks is also piss easy

[patent wing]

then u wont chain haymaker

[cunning plinth]

ok, last question, i also almost never see the surge staff. is that because its just outclassed by trauma and void too?

[stuck sinew]

They changed it

[wind spruce]

You'll still get the haymaker on the heavy

[patent wing]

wat

[wind spruce]

Surge is amazing

[stuck sinew]

Stacks decay one at a time and don't drop if you light attack or even switch weapons

[patent wing]

lol nice

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b353c64-1ef9-46f2-9113-071064ded08c/generic-gunker

[wind spruce]

I see surge all the time, but it's not as popular as it used to be. Its very very good, though.

[tulip kettle]

so first of all, heres a generic gunker build. You have 2 talent points left to put where you need them. feel free to ask about anything you see here and why its there

[cunning plinth]

oh, please explain (dm is fine if you dont want to spamm the chat )

[cunning plinth]

thanks

[wind spruce]

Riposte is also a good investment on mk VI knife imo

20% crit means more toughness, more empathetic evasion

[tulip kettle]

secondly, with regard to the staves, they are all very good at different things

much like other classes, they each have different use cases depending on what you want your ranged weapon to do

and what you want to compliment with your blitz etc

[wind spruce]

High single target damage, will stun up to four enemies. Easy to spam. Easy to target. You can stay mobile and high dps with the surge staff in a way that just isn't possible with the others.

[tulip kettle]

i disagree with easy to spam but otherwise completely agree

and is why you would choose surge over some other staves. It ofc has downsides that others dont

[rigid sky]

It's just a little bit boring

It's very strong, but boring.

[cunning plinth]

well, almost everything is relatively new to me rn

[tulip kettle]

agree with this too

[cunning plinth]

so nothing is boring "yet"

[tulip kettle]

have you checked out the aethenium?

[cunning plinth]

no, dont know what that is

[tulip kettle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[wind spruce]

Why no ethereal shards? Just seems like a no brainer for it to hit +50% targets

[patent wing]

the auto aim allows spinning around so much thats nice imo

[tulip kettle]

like i say you have 2 points to spend

[cunning plinth]

he did say it has 2 spare points

[tulip kettle]

i spend one of mine on that

[wind spruce]

Oh my bad

[tulip kettle]

sometimes ill take battle med too, sometimes 15 tough, sometimes TDR

just depends how i feel 😄

[tulip kettle]

but yeah dude, linked it above, its basically the psyker ogrynomicon

[wind spruce]

Yeah fair. I'd dump quick shards for ethereal and take two toughness nodes

[tulip kettle]

was produced by our very own pygex and helpers

[cunning plinth]

ah ok that makes sense, the surge just being able to just stay super mobile with the somewhat short charge and decent range makes sense. technically you can do that with more weapons but maintaining perfect aim while sliding around constantly is unrealistic for most players.

thanks! ill go to reading what you linked

🙂

🫡

[wind spruce]

And also take quietude over warp expenditure

[rigid sky]

Just remember, ignore what the whispers are telling you, they are not your friend.

[tulip kettle]

yeah surge autoaims so its easy for that. range is one of the weaknesses of surge compare to voidstrike, the other being comparatively massive peril generation per dmg

[tulip kettle]

quietitiude on gunker doesnt gel with me at all

but each to their own

[cunning plinth]

oh i tried it a while ago and almost instantly blew myself up, i really didnt see that peril generation coming

[wind spruce]

The way I see it is you have to go up in peril to go down, and vice versa

You get 2x toughness from quietude

And when you're going down in peril is when you don't have scriers up

[tulip kettle]

i see it as, warp ex just means i passiveley generater tough when using scriers

[wind spruce]

And when you're not firing shards

[rigid sky]

Remember you can Shriek even if you're mid-explosion

[wind spruce]

Ie you're more vulnerable

[rigid sky]

If you are struggling there is nothing wrong with keeping a Shriek build

[cunning plinth]

yeah, i was running shield though, unwise if im trying a new staff

[tulip kettle]

i guess we play it differently, as i use scriers when stuff gets hairy or i feel unsafe

[rigid sky]

It's crazy fucking strong

[wind spruce]

When you're in scriers you'll almost permanently have empathetic evasion

[cunning plinth]

6 stacks burning out a horde is very comfy on shriek

[rigid sky]

Surge works great with Shriek because it's your worst anti-horde weapon

[tulip kettle]

so i get huge dmg buffs and toughness gen on scriers activation

[wind spruce]

Its just my theory I'm not necessarily thinking I'm right

[tulip kettle]

yeah for sure

[rigid sky]

So burning Shriek fills a hole very well

On top of being safe

[wind spruce]

I love these chats bc I can find improvements

[tulip kettle]

i could show you my actual gunker build and youd cry

[tulip kettle]

likewise my dude!

[wind spruce]

Do it lmao

[cunning plinth]

thats one very ccounterintuitive detail, how much psyker actually likes chilling at high peril. one would think the danger number is supposed to be low. I stopped running the quell peril on kills perks because vs hordes i couldnt actually get my peril "UP" to shriek

well, counterintuitive from a naive fantsasy standpoint, not once you read the talent tooltips

[wind spruce]

Counter-intuitive for sure

Most 101 psykes quell to 0 and start over

You ideally quell between most shots, depending on staff

[cunning plinth]

oh, since i started brainbursting recently again and slamming it on 96 and getting my ears absolutly blasted by the warp, is there a way to disable getting screamed at without disabling all sound effects?

[radiant frigate]

think there is a mod for that

[wind spruce]

If you're on pc there's the disabled screen effects mod

I think for sound there's options too

[cunning plinth]

thanks 🙂

[wind spruce]

But my pc is off and it's past my beddy by time

[flint aspen]

who is this shady drug dealer and why is she on my office

[spice veldt]

there's the peril fx option in the options

that controls both the vfx and sfx of high peril

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b353c64-1ef9-46f2-9113-071064ded08c/gunker-6

[flint aspen]

the peril vfx do need a bit of work in terms of transitional effects

[wind spruce]

I am horrified

[tulip kettle]

and yet i have reasons for it all 😄

the main one being i PERSONALLY refuse to use DD until its fixed

[patent wing]

whats bugged with it

[tulip kettle]

LOL

[wind spruce]

But you're using warp charges that don't effect CDR hehe

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[wind spruce]

I love it though

[tulip kettle]

the cdr is useless

but the +dmg and + peril resist is not useless

[wind spruce]

I presume you're holding onto scriers a lot?

[tulip kettle]

its pretty much always available yeah

you just press it when theres elkites on the screen

and you immediately regain your WC and CD

[tulip kettle]

everything

sometimes, it wont give you a target

sometimes, you kill the target and you lose all your stacks

[wind spruce]

CD?

[tulip kettle]

cooldown, sorry

cooldown on scriers

because of psykinetics

[wind spruce]

But it doesn't effect scriers cooldown?

[tulip kettle]

oh the charges dont, but PA does

[wind spruce]

Psykinetics won't affect scriers while it's active, iirc

[tulip kettle]

it works in the 10 seconds after reaching max peril

and then after

[wind spruce]

True

[tulip kettle]

so in real games I find its pretty much always up

[wind spruce]

Yeah same

[tulip kettle]

dont get me wrong the build is - suboptimal at best

but i just refuse to use DD after trying to get along with it

[wind spruce]

I don't mind it tbh

[tulip kettle]

when it highlights the random scav shooter 2 flights of stairs away hiding behind a pillar, instead of one of the rager pack in front of you

it drives me bonkers

[untold niche]

its a fine bossman

[wind spruce]

Yeah you gotta deal with that reality

I love scriers with venting shriek

So you can point at blue man and hit F

Even if he's out of LOS

[untold niche]

pls gib DD cance

chance

DD gud

[wind spruce]

DD op

[tulip kettle]

all they need to do to fix DD is make it so EITHER your teammates killing the marked target gains you a stack, OR, the amount of targets markable should not be capped at 1

but again, im not talking from lack of experience. I tried it, a lot. its just buggy and annoying to use even if the bonuses are good and its relatively easy to hit the 15 stacks with the 30 second timer node

[untold niche]

nah its perfectly fine if you take the +time one
sometime they swap target after target alive for too long
or just VS through the wall like a selfish person

its easy to keep up 15 with +time as well

[tulip kettle]

i just said that

buit again, i refuse

[untold niche]

i type slow.

[tulip kettle]

its a poorly designed skill and the wording of it doesnt reflect the ingame behaviour

if it marked one target per second, with the mark lasting 15 seconds, or 30 with the bonus

it would be great

more lore friendly and thematic, more fun to use

[untold niche]

DD has lore?

[wind spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b3544ba-cd94-4ec4-bba0-9467ba2aa60e

My gunker build. Sometimes switch out BB for smite, no points

[tulip kettle]

yes....

[untold niche]

sorry im not a 40k fan

[wind spruce]

And often switch out prescience and anticipation for seers presence and one with the warp

[tulip kettle]

its the psyker detecting the warp signatures of living things

its like, why low level psykers are included in combat at all, they are basically living bio scanners

but oh no, i detect one person then my powers of detection stop until they die

just keep marking targets, one per second, until the target dies or the mark duration expires

if they did that i wouldnt even mind dropping the entire stack instead of just 1

[wind spruce]

I like your solution

[tulip kettle]

it would also be how the skill is described as working

[wind spruce]

Dropping off one at a time would be OP with the current durations

[tulip kettle]

well, yes and no

sometimes you just, cant gain stacks

the director is spamming specials and groaners at you, nothing is eligible to be marked

[wind spruce]

5 minutes no kills and you're still at 10/30 stacks

Would just be silly

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah they would need to change the stack duration

[untold niche]

one per second would be hard to hit

[tulip kettle]

make it like piety or whatever

[tulip kettle]

huh?

[wind spruce]

He means they stay marked, but an extra one is marked each second

[tulip kettle]

you dont have to kill them one per second

[untold niche]

ah

[ionic needle]

So it marks one per second and each target keeps the mark for like 5-10 seconds then?

[tulip kettle]

yeah it just marks a new enemy that is allowed to be marked every second, with no caps on the amount that can be marked, with the mark lasting a certain duration

[tulip kettle]

thats how i would like it to work, yes, and 15 seconds or 30 with a talent point

so effectively 15 or 30 maximum targets

you drop all the stacks if no new stack is gained after 10 seconds

[ionic needle]

That would be really good, I hate when I either run with guys who are actually good at sniping shooters or the director decides to spawn only shit that can't be marked

[tulip kettle]

thern balance the damage bonuses accordingly

[tulip kettle]

precisely

or it bugs

[ionic needle]

Talents shouldn't be negatively impacted by your team actually being good

[tulip kettle]

and marks a target, but doenst show you it has

[wind spruce]

Does that happen anymore??

[ionic needle]

At least not keystone talents

[tulip kettle]

so theres a blue dude hiding somewhere that isnt actually blue

[wind spruce]

It used to be that melee dregs and scabs didn't get marked

[tulip kettle]

i see it pretty often where i have no marked targets but there are scab shooters around

[wind spruce]

Bruisers or whatever they're called

[radiant frigate]

that explains why i stop seeing blue men entirely

[tulip kettle]

then 15-20 seconds later it will mark one

[wind spruce]

But they fixed that

[tulip kettle]

lol

[wind spruce]

Hmmm

[tulip kettle]

lol

my sweet summer child

they SAID they fixed it

[wind spruce]

Hahahha

True

[radiant frigate]

i still think disrupt destiny is trash

[untold niche]

n0 its pretty gud
Just have to get used to it

[ionic needle]

It's insanely good

[untold niche]

trust

[ionic needle]

Just have to adapt your playstyle to it

[tulip kettle]

no, i agree with you

it should be good, but it isnt

[radiant frigate]

what makes it good

[tulip kettle]

its not lore friendly, thematic or fun

[untold niche]

damage :v

[tulip kettle]

well the bonuses at high stacks are good

[wind spruce]

It's none of those things but still good imo

[ionic needle]

The added damage at high stacks as well as the toughness regen and movement speed when killing a target

[wind spruce]

The damage is simply absurd

[radiant frigate]

I've never felt like i don't do enough damage

[ionic needle]

It's not about not doing enough damage, it's about doing even more damage

[tulip kettle]

thats my take, i can get the same damage more consistently and reliably with warp charges

[radiant frigate]

i know but how much of that goes into overkill?

[untold niche]

can't get same damage
I can't 1 tap crusher with void

[tulip kettle]

but with columnus specifically and the crit interactions i think DD really is required

[untold niche]

on warp

[tulip kettle]

well youre poo then 🙂

[ionic needle]

I think I'd opt in for warp charges on gunker if they fixed the CDR on gaze

[radiant frigate]

i picked this class so i can avoid using a gun

[ionic needle]

Why? Gun on psyker is so much fun

[radiant frigate]

i don't particularly like guns

and i like them even less on psyker

[tulip kettle]

nah im with ya kat, i only played gunker after much persuasion from the gang here

and decided if i wanted to use a gun id play a different class

[untold niche]

thats on 6 charge though
2 extra points

[tulip kettle]

yeah you dont need the charges

[ionic needle]

Guns on psyker are actually stronger than on vet if you're running gaze and DD

[tulip kettle]

can do it on 3 tbh

[wind spruce]

Yes you do

[tulip kettle]

you juyst need 80+ peril

[wind spruce]

Ok yeah three

[tulip kettle]

and warp rider

[wind spruce]

And you need +25% carapace

[radiant frigate]

not a fan of the filler nodes on the way to warp charges

[tulip kettle]

true

[wind spruce]

Or stacks of perfect timing

[tulip kettle]

true

[ionic needle]

You mean these? All of them are really good though?

[tulip kettle]

true

but the point is

[untold niche]

so would +20 cara, 4 stack WS work?

[wind spruce]

If you have +20% carapace and 5 stacks of perfect timing you need above 90% peril to one shot

[radiant frigate]

quell speed is whatever

[tulip kettle]

very achievable in a real game

[wind spruce]

For sure

[radiant frigate]

coherency range is whatever

[wind spruce]

Also unncessary

[tulip kettle]

also true XD

[ionic needle]

If you're running a staff quell speed is really good, coherency range is also very good

[untold niche]

@wind spruce :p

[radiant frigate]

toughness and DR good

[tulip kettle]

but just saying, it is quite possible to achieve equal performance on warp charges as DD if you arent running a columnus

[wind spruce]

I think so, maybe not quite

[radiant frigate]

but i can get those elsewhere without filler

[wind spruce]

I much prefer DD with void assail builds

[untold niche]

because my void only has t3 cara
so DD still more damage if its true.

[tulip kettle]

just not my bag

[wind spruce]

Very easy to keep up stacks when you have venting shriek and void

And the damage increase for assail is bonkers

[rigid sky]

Are they really :/ much worse than the other end-of-tree offerings imo

[tulip kettle]

these days i like blaze trauma, BB spam voidburst or standard builds like purg / creeping

[wind spruce]

Solidity is overrated, puppet master is underrated. Both are good.

[rigid sky]

Puppet master is definitely good but it's usually the first "nice but unnecessary" point I sacrifice if I want to reach something else

[tulip kettle]

blaze trauma still feels weak though

needs buffs

[wind spruce]

Psykers deserve more crit chance

[plucky flax]

Yep blaze trauma really bad.

Pls buff.

[untold niche]

i feel if you edge and always only quell one tick then yeah you don't need solidity. but when i was levelling and i got solidity it really felt like a power spike

[plucky flax]

Never seen blaze trauma get top damage nor carry any game.

[wind spruce]

It's definitely very good

[rigid sky]

Satire?

[plucky flax]

No.

[wind spruce]

That tick will be more if you have solidity, but it's not as necessary as some will make out

[wind spruce]

One joke

[tulip kettle]

i went fishing with a single comment

got a bite within seconds 😄

[rigid sky]

Any kind of trauma is a ticket to "fraggin ell, look at the witch" for the whole match

[plucky flax]

That's impossible.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-its-not-fair-unfair-anakin-gif-16742272

[radiant frigate]

emperor's throne, look at witch

[tulip kettle]

i guess it was worth bringing the freak along after all

[ionic needle]

You should try it on scab melee only maelstrom, your name will be on the killfeed constantly

[radiant frigate]

that the psyker doing that? stone me

[leaden mulch]

is kinetic reflection only work on force sword?

[tulip kettle]

"very kind"

[ionic needle]

no

[tulip kettle]

kinetic deflection talent works with all melee weapons

[leaden mulch]

then why it's not blocking or i need to ranout of stamina first?

[plucky flax]

For regular gameplay trauma is shit.

[wind spruce]

It doesn't block ranged attacks

[ionic needle]

What are you trying to block?

[wind spruce]

Just melee

[leaden mulch]

ok got it

[rigid sky]

Only way to block ranged is the Deflector blessing on any force sword

[radiant frigate]

i think trauma is alright

[plucky flax]

If you do well with trauma it's because of your TEAM. Not YOU

[radiant frigate]

prefer voidstrike

[deep pine]

Trauma needs high radius yes?

[rigid sky]

Apart from that brief window after Illisi and Deimos were introduced and they both had deflector built in by mistake

[ionic needle]

Oh those were good times

[wind spruce]

Yeah need high blast radius

[plucky flax]

Try high everything.

[rigid sky]

As we all know, youtube comments are the real source of knowledge

[wind spruce]

Trauma was my last staff to start enjoying. Took a lot of suffering but then I couldn't put it down for months

[deep pine]

can't get high everything much more than that one 😄

[wind spruce]

You have crazy mobility and control with trauma

[deep pine]

I can't let go of surge staff, love it so much.

[wind spruce]

In a way that void just cannot match

[leaden mulch]

can deimos 1shot hoard on damnation? or only combat axe work

[plucky flax]

Youtube reddit discord all bad sources

[rigid sky]

Which horde?

[wind spruce]

Yes it can one shot hordes. You should try the illisi force sword if you want better horde clear though

[deep pine]

Do you guys reroll weekly contracts to get higher paying ones? like for example there are tiers "complete 1 mission no death or complete 3 missions no death"

[wind spruce]

Only 3 or 4 times max

[deep pine]

Roll of the low tier ones

[rigid sky]

I reroll to get rid of bad contracts

Like the no deaths or grimoires ones

[wind spruce]

I'm not spending more than 10k ordo dockets

But I have every t4 blessing

[deep pine]

yeah ok.. not really work gold to reroll to high paying ones then yeah.

[wind spruce]

So milk bucks are fairly useless for me

[rigid sky]

Since I play all 4 classes

So I want ease of getting that 4x1000 bonus

[deep pine]

I'm playing 3 classes atm, but am patch 16 returnee so lots of blessings to farm.

[leaden mulch]

yes if i got that 8 grim, or anything paying less than 300

[wind spruce]

You can afford to spend a little more rerolling then

But don't go bonkers

[deep pine]

Have so say as shit as the crafting still is, the skill tree rework is amazing. Vet/Pyscher/Zealot I all really enjoy without a clear favorite.

[wind spruce]

Just get rid of the sub 300 ones and the ones that are too hard to finish

[leaden mulch]

i wish we could rename our character

[rigid sky]

Crafting is much better than it used to be too

Since blessings got flattened a bunch

You can select perks instead of endless free rerolls or relying on a mod

You can change two things on any weapon now (and curios, which is a huge benefit)

[leaden mulch]

is gun psyker still a thing

[rigid sky]

More so now than ever before

[wind spruce]

This should really be reitterated more. Like dumdum II is 5% and dumdum IV is 6%. They are quite close.

[leaden mulch]

how do i use surge staff correctly?

[radiant frigate]

zap things

[rigid sky]

In some cases, rare but essential blessings are now available in lesser forms too (I still only have power Cycler III but it's more than enough)

And the other part, shared currencies

[radiant frigate]

not shared curios though

or shared equipment

[rigid sky]

Makes it much easier to work on whatever you want to work on, and less likely to get that awful moment when you see Power Cycler IV for sale and you're short 5 melk bucks

[radiant frigate]

if 3 characters can use a weapon they should all draw from the same pol

pool*

[wind spruce]

Poor ogryns

[radiant frigate]

ogryn is at once overpowered and feels miserable to play

so sluggish

which i guess is why mine is just 30+11

[tulip kettle]

wtf u mean ogryn feels GREAT to play

oh a mutant?

ROCK

oh a bulwark?

ROCK

oh whats that, a crusher pack?

ROCK ROCK ROCK

BONK BONK BONK

[radiant frigate]

not a fan of their weapons

ranged or melee

[tulip kettle]

yeah ranged ogryn weapons suck i agree

but the shield is great

bendy bonk is GREAT

[radiant frigate]

i never used the shield

[quartz barn]

Just run shield with toughness regen on charged heavy and you just never die

[tulip kettle]

thats like, core ogryn experience and imo the best melee weapon

get brutal momentum 4

[radiant frigate]

not like it matters

[tulip kettle]

heavy 1, kill 4 scab bruisers

[dense crow]

Heavy stubber go brrrr

[tulip kettle]

heavy 2, cleave 20 poxwalkers

[quartz barn]

Ngl still dont understand how people manage to go down on ogryn

[cosmic sigil]

The kickback is just soooooo enjoyable

[radiant frigate]

just keep swinging heavies into everything

[tulip kettle]

gunner / reaper stunlock

net through obstacle

those 2 things exclusively for me

[radiant frigate]

yes i love shooting something and having to reload and it's still alive

[cosmic sigil]

Fuckers leaving them to deal with a trapper, a dong and a bomber

[cosmic sigil]

That's completely wrong

With surgical almost everything is a one shot.

[tulip kettle]

yeah maybe if youre shooting crushers or built a trash kickback

[radiant frigate]

happened the last time i played ogryn

do blessings on guns even matter

[cosmic sigil]

And with blaze away well. Everything dies by the time it arrives

Yeah

[tulip kettle]

• flak, + maniac, blaze away, surgical, 12% power on reload talent

[radiant frigate]

what would make or break kickback

[cosmic sigil]

And it's not even on a gunlugger

[tulip kettle]

this

try this and tell me its bad

[radiant frigate]

no i don't think i will

[dense crow]

Bruh

[cosmic sigil]

The kickback is the child of bolter pre patch 13 and the revolver post patch 13

[radiant frigate]

never liked either of these weapons

[cosmic sigil]

And it has been nerfed a bit

[spice veldt]

so true kickback bad weapon

they should buff it

[tulip kettle]

not you too!

[latent hill]

Kickback?

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/u6swkq

highly sane minimum pellet count mechanic

killing a sniper from >100m in two shots is also pretty sane

[cosmic sigil]

Why use a ripper now? Can opener? Just take a shovel.

[tulip kettle]

yeah i couldnt find any use case for the ripper, im sure they exist i just couldnt figure them out

[cosmic sigil]

Gunlugger burning stacks maybe

But I'd take an achlys then

[dense crow]

When I play ogryn my brain actually degrades to their level and I just like holding down the trigger on the stubber. I’m normally a revolver crackhead player but the ogryn changes me

[tulip kettle]

relateable

[radiant frigate]

i don't like how playing ogryn gives me brainrot

[vocal cliff]

It's not too late to break free

Break the chains of the filthy abhumans

[cosmic sigil]

Ogryn is a vibe. You don't play it if you want to zoom ahead like a dick.

[dense crow]

Hehe, heavy stubber go brat and make loud noise and en’mies go splat

[vocal cliff]

I'm just not a fan of the big heavy guys

That and I only play characters I can make female

[tulip kettle]

i mean

you can make female ogryn

https://tenor.com/view/roll-safe-clever-think-ahead-reece-simpson-gif-14469436

you just cant tell

[rigid sky]

Is it like dwarfs?

[rigid sky]

But what if I don't want a shovel

[tulip kettle]

almost exactly, yeah

also

[rigid sky]

Ripper V is good at every range and Can Opener makes cleavers much more viable

[tulip kettle]

grug identri - identee - grut it, grug woman now

[rigid sky]

Well, BB cleaver at least

IV can kill armour already

It just takes a few cycles but it's faster than the Heavy Sword for it

[cosmic sigil]

club

cleaver

i don't have the best experience with cleaver and crushers tho

[rigid sky]

Cleaver is like the only Ogryn weapon that's flat-out bad vs crushers

And even then the IV is good enough at it

[cosmic sigil]

you can go kourk and be a gunlugger kickback

[rigid sky]

But Bull butcher gets nowhere without a Can Opener (or a ranged that can deal with armour by itself)

[cosmic sigil]

you just have to shoot before they come close

but yeah, i take the bb with the ripper

[rigid sky]

I guess the Gauntlet and Rumbler would also be valid options

[cosmic sigil]

or a gg or a rumbler

yep

[rigid sky]

Or take rending PBB on anything

[misty cypress]

yo yesterday I survived a burster with no health loss and I was blocking with both deflector and kinetic deflection. Do either of these block bursters? maybe deflecter if a poxburst counts as a ranged attack? It wasn't a vet shout

[upper sun]

ye i had something similar

im not really sure if it was because i was far enough away

or because i have corruption resistance so it only took off toughness

[magic hull]

best blessing for surge staf?

[rigid sky]

Nexus and flurry, like a basic bitch.

[upper sun]

only options tbh

why doesnt surge have surge?

seems like one/two more bounces would be good

[cunning plinth]

oh actually, why is surge bad on the trauma staff?

one would imagine 2 trauma explosions instantly on the same spot would be good

(i partially ask because i have a beautiful trauma staff roll... with surge on it)

[upper sun]

i dont think it applies on secondary attack

[cunning plinth]

that explains it lol. Its weird that it does for void but not for trauma

[upper sun]

well void's secondary attack is a projectile while truama is an effect

speaking of secondary attacks

why the hell can you hit someone with a staff

whats the point of that even?

[cunning plinth]

if you want to be honorable and give a poxwalker a fair 1v1

[upper sun]

🤔

id rather hit them with a holy scripture

omg the staff bashing has a heavy attack and two animations

[cunning plinth]

you are right though, that special attack should clearly be a melee shove, clearly that would be balanced

[cunning plinth]

somebody worked ~20 hours on this

[upper sun]

they could have made obscurus animations less weird

[bitter escarp]

Or at least reward you for putting up with the weird

[upper sun]

omg it can crit

[bitter escarp]

Staff melee should be at the same level of power as Vet bayonet really

Just go through whole levels channelling George Silver

[upper sun]

it can stagger crushers kinda

wow

[cunning plinth]

scriers gaze, DD, crit melee staff build. any% votekicked speedrun, no chat allowed

[upper sun]

YES

hit and run blessings and secondary attack cant be interupted

[cunning plinth]

horizontal sweep on the heavy attack, clearly goated weapon

[bitter escarp]

Does Transfer Peril work on a staff special head shot?

[upper sun]

i knew the God emperor had a reason for giving me the staff of running

[flint aspen]

he also surely must had a reason why he gave me a cowboy revolver as a space mage

[tulip kettle]

OCCASIONALLY emperors gifts are pretty good

do you think the stat loss compared to my current one is worth rending 4

[rigid sky]

I personally would use the rending IV one but I'm not an admec

[tulip kettle]

it works out at 5% extra rending at max charge, but i lose 4% dmg and 2% radius

plus dump quell speed instead of warp res which is technically better

idk if icba to spend the mats or just rip off rend 4

[flint aspen]

ever had a pub psyker who just refuses to use their smite for some reason?

[hidden crystal]

It's to grant yourself the Emperor's Mercy if you're about to get possessed.

[flint aspen]

like DUDE, USE THE KARKING PALPATINE LIGHTING

YOU HAVE IT FOR A REASON YOU FUCK

[quick python]

no

i cast fireball

[hidden crystal]

Oh, I do that all the time.

Mostly because I don't usually take Smite.

[flint aspen]

god why do I get worse randoms as Psyker and Ogryn than Vet

[long wharf]

Because the emperor knows you need the practice carrying

[cunning plinth]

i actually have the opposite issue where a ton of psykers i meet smite way too much and just CC stuff they could have easily killed themselves

[radiant frigate]

"i'm contributing!"

[solar granite]

what is the best psyker build

I almost been 30 ( now 28)

[radiant frigate]

best psyker build is preference

[tulip kettle]

which is the best colour?

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately crafting is stupid so getting the good stuff is a complete dice roll

[radiant frigate]

silver

no contest

[tulip kettle]

blue is obviously superior to silver

is silver even a colour?

isnt it like, an element?

[radiant frigate]

it is also an element

[tulip kettle]

but you see trhe problem pofoge

[radiant frigate]

it is also the color of most metals

[tulip kettle]

try asking a better question than "what am best build" 🙂

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[solar granite]

is it joke

my english bad sorry

[radiant frigate]

no we are being serious

[tulip kettle]

what is the best colour?

what is the best shape?

what is your favourite number?

[solar granite]

whatever

I must be soon 30 lv

[tulip kettle]

what do you want to do. dont get shitty because you asked "what is the best build" when that question is impossible to answer

there are 50 different ways to play psyker

all are good and bad at different things

[solar granite]

Okay meta builds top 3

[tulip kettle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

enjoy

[solar granite]

most used

[tulip kettle]

gunker

[solar granite]

ty so much

[tulip kettle]

purgatus creeping flames shriek

rending trauma bubble

[zenith vigil]

quickplay and joined a team with 3 psykers total.
we hop from one shield dome to another. smooth as butter 😂

[tulip kettle]

my problem with dome is its useless when you actually need it

its great vs BoN as a niche thing but otherwise i dont personally rate it

you REALLY need it when your team is caught somewhere exposed and 6 gunners spawn somewhere and light you up

but in those situtations it break in 6 seconds

[zenith vigil]

not a problem when we have 3 bubbles 😂

[tulip kettle]

truuueee

[plucky flax]

Not blaze trauma

[tulip kettle]

to be fair, i went back to using flurry and rending with the same talent tree without wildfire as blaze trauma

[vestal fulcrum]

Is Blaze Trauma not preferential

[tulip kettle]

and i seemed to do a lot more dmg due to pumping out more charged shots

just from a few games today thats my feeling

[plucky flax]

No it's really bad!!

[latent hill]

Preferential?

[radiant frigate]

why does the atheneum recommend toughness regen speed on curios

[plucky flax]

Idk but I actually use it too.

[vestal fulcrum]

Idk what’s Pygex’s entire point of view on it, but it’s a good property that gives you an extra safety net/better means of passive toughness generation when nothing’s happening

Or whenever you are under pressure but not from melee breeds

[plucky flax]

It's good for when the whole team is together against shooters with covers.

[stuck sinew]

psyker has so many ways to constantly slurp up toughness tho

[radiant frigate]

i would much rather run flamer/bomber resist

[stuck sinew]

unless you're a gunker

[radiant frigate]

to get some extra time in bad situations

it has come in handy

[stuck sinew]

even then just crit

or use assail with the warp kill tough talent

[solar granite]

Battery gunner or Sail Gaze EP ?

[tulip kettle]

i would try using assail, scryers gaze and disrupt destiny

with a columnus autogun and then a melee weapon of your choice

as a starting point

[radiant frigate]

is gunker the base recommendation now

[stuck sinew]

It's also good on shock troop if everyone is bogged down by other things you can at least stop flamers/nets from getting to you

[tulip kettle]

bomber resist does nothing

you reduce the damage of the times they kick you

or hit you directly with the grenade for one damage

it does nothing to the fire damage from their grenades

[stuck sinew]

Hey man I've been killed by this before ok

[vestal fulcrum]

Each to their own - I just tried to approach the property’s potential use case rather objectively

[tulip kettle]

[radiant frigate]

was this not particularly mentioned as a change

[hard widget]

[radiant frigate]

i'm starting to think i might not be playing the same class

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s good, I think. Good enough to take over certain other properties, especially these that grant resistances

[vestal fulcrum]

And why’s that?

[tulip kettle]

the only resistances that are worth taking really on any class is gunner and sniper

the rest are objectively bad

[vestal fulcrum]

TRS is a universal property, there’s no class it’s actively “bad” on

[flint aspen]

I feel like with the continuing degradation of my experience with randoms that I'm pretty much stuck to using smite

[radiant frigate]

sniper resist i find pointless since you still take chip damage

[wet belfry]

What why?

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn’t go so far as to claim that, but I certainly see no use for Mutant and Poxhound property, and Flamer to an extent

[stuck sinew]

chip damage is better than being downed

[hard widget]

sniper resist is based on ogryn

[radiant frigate]

different focus

[tulip kettle]

okay, and i explained why bomber is bad

so that leaves...

[radiant frigate]

high chance of still being downed

[tulip kettle]

yeah TRS is great, same as stamna regen

but the unit damage resistances are all bad, apart from sniper which is okay and gunner which is must have

[radiant frigate]

why no poxburster resist

[stuck sinew]

Usually taking a sniper hit is a momentary lapse and I can continue dodging everything afterwards

[flint aspen]

because whenever I use something else it had to be in the worst pub matchups ever

[vestal fulcrum]

One Gunner property is probably enough to not have your toughness/health explode when one is caught off-guard

[vestal fulcrum]

There is such a resist in lua for curios

It’s just unused

[wet belfry]

How does that mean using smite is needed?

[radiant frigate]

bomber resist definitely works

27 damage on the first tick vs like 50

[tulip kettle]

if you are in the fire, you are going down

if you arent, you arent

it does nothing in a game

also that just doesnt make sense at all right? with one curio you go from 50 to 27? a 50% reduction?

[stuck sinew]

Fatshark

[fluid dawn]

No it really doesn’t it still shreds you if it ain’t making the impact of stopping me from even worrying it ain’t worth curio specing

[radiant frigate]

one? when did i say that

i am talking triple resist

54 to 27

makes perfect sense

[radiant frigate]

if it shreds me half as much i have double the time to get out

fire and gunners are the things that will kill you the fastest if things go bad

having twice as much time sounds like a great deal to me

[tulip kettle]

oh right

imagine using 3 slots to resist fire

insanity

[radiant frigate]

what else are you using them on

[tulip kettle]

toughness, toughness regen, stamina regen, gunner resist

[misty cypress]

grimoire corruption resist

[tulip kettle]

you know, things that actually do stuff

[radiant frigate]

toughness regen which does nothing when it matters

gunner resist is a no-brainer, always run that

[spice veldt]

ordo docket gang

[tulip kettle]

and yeah, i honestly have a 20% curio chance on one of mine

[misty cypress]

huh?

[radiant frigate]

i'm sorry but i do not believe that increasing your toughness regen from coherency is at all relevant

[tulip kettle]

toughness regen increases the rate at which you gain toughness

[radiant frigate]

from coherency passive regen

[spice veldt]

only from coherency

[tulip kettle]

yes

[spice veldt]

and you shit out toughness as psyker unless you don't take the nodes up top

[vestal fulcrum]

The single most valuable property

[tulip kettle]

i dont disagree with that for a lot of builds

but you cant tell me that when youre big chillin zappin shooties as a gang

that regen speed is useless

it is not

[stone canyon]

Melk gave me ready to go Gunker gun? (just change perks)

[tulip kettle]

and i would say comes into play far more often than standing in fire

[fluid dawn]

3 corruption res all my homies hate dogs

[tulip kettle]

seems okay, id rather less mobility and more stab and stop

but its aight

[stone canyon]

Yeah obviously, but its serviceable

[misty cypress]

um, more toughness regen=staying capped more often and avoiding taking melee damage from the occasional melee hit you didn't see coming. Not to mention psyker can boost coherency radius

and im only standing in fire when all my teamates are down and bombers are running rampant

[plucky flax]

I don't run gunner resist.

I'm very based.

[spice veldt]

sure, but you have a lot of constant toughness regen options in your talent tree

and those toughness regen options are percentage-based and scale if you take +toughness

[plucky flax]

It's as if curios are hugely preferential.

[misty cypress]

you dont NEED the TRS, but ill take it over bomber resistance or even gunner resistance

[stone canyon]

I just made my fresh lvl 30 Ogryn curios, +Ordo Dockets there on all 💰

[tulip kettle]

get the fuck out of here with your balanced and nuanced opinion

[plucky flax]

[spice veldt]

i'm fine with taking one bomber res on my curios since perks are whatever

but i do believe that ordo dockets is the best

[tulip kettle]

you either run the absolute mathematically best thing or you suck at the game

there is no inbetween

[plucky flax]

I'm top 1% so what I say is the real truth.

Run that or else...

[tulip kettle]

curio chance gang

the TRULY based approach is of course 3x XP, 3X curio chance, 3X grim resist, all on + wound curios

[stone canyon]

Wish some of my teammates ran all wound curios, they would come in need

[plucky flax]

I do on zealot.

[stone canyon]

Tried martyrdom zealot and didnt quite get it

[plucky flax]

What weapon?

Tbf it works with all weapons.

But shines the most with combat axe imo.

[stone canyon]

Logging in to check, dont remember anymore

Think it was Eviscerator because i was doing both martyrdom and powered up hits penances at once

[tulip kettle]

i mained zealot for a while, i think martyrdom is actually really strong but misunderstood

[plucky flax]

I love loner stealth martyrdom bm combat axe.

My most op zealot build.

Go to 5 or 6 stacks of martyrdom and spam left click to win.

[tulip kettle]

you dont need to run 3 wound curios, you can run 2 and be just fine. 4 stacks of martyrdom is already strongere than the max buffs from IJ

and you should also just play normally and see it as a damage boost when things get bad instead of trying to play low hp

what i DO wish is that holy rev had a way to reduce the cd

[plucky flax]

Nah drop low hp for the big damage boost straight away.

[tulip kettle]

2 mins very long

[plucky flax]

If you play normally then just go momentum.

So you get damage boost at high hp.

[tulip kettle]

dont get me wrong i dont really care about losing hp

and i wont generally heal

but you shouldnt take dmg on purpose

[plucky flax]

I cook myself at the start of the map then go to town.

[stuck sinew]

momentum move speed my beloved

crackhead juice

[tulip kettle]

yeah IJ is very fun

i love it with thammer stealth zealot

oh, a monstrosity spawned?

bop

[stuck sinew]

One thing I hate about stealth thammer
activates stealth
monster runs off to chase the knife veteran midway through charging up Thrust

[tulip kettle]

hehehehehe

yeah dude

you get used to it and account for it

i punish myself double by only running crucis

[stuck sinew]

and if it doesn't run it does a knockback attack

[stone canyon]

My current favourite is ThrowingKnife+Fury+Piety critting Knife3 with Boltgun for Crushers (quickswap throw+F to debuff armor)

[stuck sinew]

hence I just use Chastise

Throwing knife gets too much hate

Knife + Flamer covers you on basically everything and you get to have the juicy right side talents

[stone canyon]

I actually finally found it now with Boltgun, it makes pulling it out quick, and makes it unnecessary to pull just for 1-2 ragers or special

[stuck sinew]

toughness on dodge and crit dmg reduction are so splendid

[stone canyon]

If wanna go all in on that, could still pick Good Balance too for +25% DR 2.5s on dodge

How does Toughness DR stack and work?

3x 5% nodes on Tree, then +25% on dodge and 50% on crit for total 90% DR reduction available pretty easy

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/190kdpq/a_simple_guide_to_toughness_damage_reduction/

[eager token]

nice tip

i would’ve figured block efficiency would work better with the peril block trait

but idk if it would work that way tbh

[manic talon]

heya,any1 willing to help with the ,,warp battery" and ,,going out with a bang" penance? having hard time doing it in public lobbies

[tulip kettle]

play my stealth thammer zealot

teammate pulls demonhost

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-hand-rub-gif-4550607172171818262

teammate dies before i reach them

DH teleports away to the bot, then phases out of existence as i swing at it

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-cry-gif-4524683

[near wyvern]

Last time I checked once you stack enough toughness DR you will get diminishing returns, it's not all additive

[stone canyon]

Yeah asked also in Zealot-class and got told this:

While my current talent setup gives 0.45 so 55% DR but 25% more melee dmg

Quick damage on fast stabby knife zealot gives its own layer of defence of sorts as less time for enemies to hit you before they gone

[little pier]

I already know the answer to this but I just wanna make sure what you all think, is Venting Shriek useless??

[stone canyon]

I like it on my Voidstrike build so i dont blow myself up, from teamplay perspective better peril control and shield would be safer for team

But i feel i need to prioritise my own safety first

[plucky flax]

Useless?

It's the only ult I guess.

[tulip kettle]

craftingisfinecraftingisfineCRAFTINGISFINE

[stone canyon]

Also when you really need it, like 6 crushers coming at you with some ragers sprinkled on top, it gives you lot more shots out and one aoe stagger to deal with the situation quicker

[little pier]

I subscribe to the theory that it is NOT useless. But I saw a video the other day where someone said it was useless. I called that person stupid.

[stone canyon]

Oof looks like solid 0/4

[tulip kettle]

only cost me 1.2 mill dockets as well 🥲

[plush oak]

brunt and hadron bricking collab

[tulip kettle]

just gonna keep it, add it to the crucis shame pile

[upper sun]

its gonna be ok crafting overhall is due any days now :)))))

[tulip kettle]

the literal first ironhelm i crafted

and i hate it

[upper sun]

maybe they can increase the mod limit give us the ability to breakdown gear do something :))))

[tulip kettle]

i mean, it does do something

it gives you grey crafting mats

aka dockets

[upper sun]

yeah like i need any more of that

[tulip kettle]

idk man i always need dockets

[upper sun]

wasted 300k on brunts and got two good greys

that ended up bricking

very rewarding gameplay

[tulip kettle]

lol scroll up 😄

[radiant frigate]

does thrust lie

surely it is multiple stacks of +20%

[long wharf]

it's not a lie, just the wording is odd

[stone canyon]

So what perks for this? Flak and then Unyielding/Carapace/Crit ?

[stone canyon]

I have crafted about 30 trauma staffs in search of lvl 3 Blazing Spirit, the search goes on

[plucky flax]

Dum dum is most important. Then it's nice to have flak maniac to kill specials fast.

[tulip kettle]

i would go flak and unyielding

[stone canyon]

But it already kinda does that? Wouldnt going something to deal with Crushers and bosses be more useful?

[tulip kettle]

imo

run a duelling sword with uncanny and + carapace

then run columnus with + flak and + unyielding

gun for everything that isnt a crusher or bulwark

[stone canyon]

Thats what im running atm

[tulip kettle]

ehhhh

[stone canyon]

Had it on since day 1 i hit lvl 30

[tulip kettle]

i would farm a new one

[stone canyon]

Some day ill make better, but for now, need Blazing Spirit Trauma Staff!

Yeah i have bought suitable good roll bases from shop already in store

[tulip kettle]

lol i got blazing spirit the first time i tried for it 😄

but yeah, IMO, columnus works best with flak and unyielding. even with + cara its not great vs crushers

and with +flak you just shoot maulers in the chest

then like i say, DS with uncanny and + cara to take care of the chonkers and youre set

could also run that sword no problem and take BB instead of assail

use the sword more instead of assail for the trash then BB is just for opening bulwarks and crushers

[stone canyon]

Ok will do, was about to reperk it but 100ish plaststeel 🤷‍♂️

[harsh urchin]

Flak maniac is better

Unyielding somewhat pointless because it only applies to somewhat uncommon enemies

[tulip kettle]

missing out on unyielding on columnus is wasting a huge part of its potential

lol

if you think taking maniac to kill a flamer in 0.3 seconds instead of 0.4 is worth it over killing a plogryn in 2 mags

idk what to say

each to their own

[harsh urchin]

I dont think bosses are very big threats in the game tbh lol

Killing them fast is much less important than many of the elites/specials

[tulip kettle]

but all of the elites die with +flak anyway

except crushersd

and bulwarks

as i sort of alluded to

[harsh urchin]

Not specials

And maniac ragers

[tulip kettle]

name one that doesnt die immefiately

they all die

so fast

[harsh urchin]

Mutants

[tulip kettle]

try it

tell me they dont die in fractions of a second