psyker-class

[untold niche]

Damn

[winter siren]

so what you wanna do is learn to dodge, and manage your dodge count

[midnight jolt]

I guess I will never buy an outfit, if the decent outfits cost 2900 but you gave me only 2500 with the imperial edition, feels like a bait, not biting 😂

[grand charm]

the big guy with steroid vials in his back that charges at you

[red jacinth]

would this be worth grabbing?

[grand charm]

i didnt even see him coming lmao, i saw him attacking one of the bots but there was also a boss and before i knew it i was pinned to a wall and being slammed into the floor

[flint aspen]

I bought my drip for my Psyker before I even started as them

[winter siren]

yeah the jump to 2900 was scummy af imo https://preview.redd.it/im-just-gonna-leave-this-here-v0-0gz0i6u5j19c1.png?auto=webp&s=4a9bebc1027688ecb03198b6be6219913183d511

[flint aspen]

So they'll look cool after the I'm a warrior cutscene

[winter siren]

if you stand close to a wall when the mutie grabs you he wont slam you and just throws you

[midnight jolt]

I will forever have 2500 aquillas

[grand charm]

ah, thats good to know, i thought it was just random

[winter siren]

damage is actually the dump for purg staff, as most of your dps come from the burn and spamming it

[radiant frigate]

i will forever have 0 aquilas

[red jacinth]

ye, ik

[grand charm]

does the kinetic deflection passive also work for parrying, or just blocking?

[midnight jolt]

the imperial edition cost me €12, it has a somehow decent outfit for all classes and gives you 2500 aquillas, but that's the bait apparently

[radiant frigate]

as in, with devil's claw?

[grand charm]

yes

[radiant frigate]

i should think so

[grand charm]

i hope it does

[radiant frigate]

i heard it allows you to counterstrike bosses to death

[sullen rapids]

wait parrying doesn’t eat stamina i thought

does it?

[grand charm]

it does

[sullen rapids]

that’s kinda fucked tbh

[grand charm]

yeah

[plucky flax]

@idle bay Help!

[grand charm]

it does sometimes and does sometimes for me for some reason

but when it does theres like a billion of those mutants with the hammers that just beat me to death relentlessly cause they instantly drain your stanima fully if you try to parry or block

[midnight jolt]

that's why you need this generally speaking:

[sullen rapids]

where block efficiency lol

[grand charm]

i need to start investing in whatever these are called

i have none rn lmao

[proper osprey]

No ability regen or stam regen……

[grand charm]

but theres one in my shop that gives +2 max stanima and its only 2k

[red jacinth]

change anything or keep a slot for any future balances?

[midnight jolt]

nah, that's something you just learn

[winter siren]

thats ok to start with

[proper osprey]

[midnight jolt]

don't spam dodge, intermix it with attacks then you will be fine

[proper osprey]

Bro has a wedge in his brain

[proper osprey]

What

[plucky flax]

I would put carapace over flak personally.

[midnight jolt]

enlighten me, since your brain is obviously superior

[radiant frigate]

why block efficiency if kinetic deflection

[red jacinth]

does flak help with any breakpoints?

[plucky flax]

Idk you can test it. But I use deimos for elites, and maulers also have carapace heads.

Flak and dreg ragers I use staff.

[feral verge]

swap flak for elite or carapace, or even unyielding damage

deimos already deletes flak

[upper sun]

Good luck i bricked 4 +3 stamina

[wind spruce]

Ability regen is top tier cmon

[red jacinth]

this is the other thing i'm using with it

[feral verge]

optimal deimos

[proper osprey]

getting your stamina faster is just good for mobility and blocking, and if you’re running 4% ability regen for all 3 you get 5 seconds off anything

[stuck sinew]

5s

Wow

[sullen rapids]

why stam curio if kinetic deflection

[proper osprey]

It stacks

[stuck sinew]

[plucky flax]

So you wouldn't have a problem with flaks using that staff.

Use deimos for crushers and muties.

[wind spruce]

To make it more efficient.

[radiant frigate]

i ask that same question

[proper osprey]

[grand charm]

wait is there a rocket launcher weapon or something, i just tried to parry a bulwark and he just exploded

[upper sun]

thats amazing and i hate you

[radiant frigate]

in most cases i do not find myself blocking enough for that to matter

[wind spruce]

More stam = less peril taken per hit

[stuck sinew]

As opposed to say, 60% DMG reduction Vs a specific enemy

[plucky flax]

Tier 3 nexus

[proper osprey]

Literal wedge brain

[red jacinth]

took "just a few" dockets

[upper sun]

better than any truama staff i ever made

[winter siren]

wedge tail eagle brain

[wind spruce]

It's only 48.8%. Multiplicative scaling.

[plucky flax]

I would say mine is better.

[feral verge]

there are no rocket launchers

[plucky flax]

It has triple 80% damage stats.

[stuck sinew]

That's still vastly better

[feral verge]

it was probably a krak grenade, from a vet

[midnight jolt]

that one I understand, but being called mentally regarded (wedge in my brain) for not using stamina regen nor block efficiency is kind of cringe

[proper osprey]

Yeah get that gunner resistance we know you’ll need it

[upper sun]

one good perk and a tier 4 perk is good enough in my book

[plucky flax]

Tru

[upper sun]

I have like 7 illisi but zero staves like that

[stuck sinew]

You cannot actually be serious that 4% regen is worthwhile

[wind spruce]

12% of 30s (the cooldown for two of the combat abilities psyker can get) is 3.6s

[plucky flax]

Still waiting for tier 4 blazing spirits btw.

[proper osprey]

[wind spruce]

Yes it's hugely worthwhile

[stuck sinew]

And stam regen, on psyker

[proper osprey]

Bro hasn’t played verimtide

[winter siren]

grenade gauntlet for ogryn is closest to a rocket launcher, ogrynheimer nade, vet krak grenades. all delete big boys pretty well

[proper osprey]

[stuck sinew]

This isn't Vermintide

[upper sun]

i got flak carap nexus 4 warp 4 on a fire staff with 50% burn radius and 80% dam

[wind spruce]

Yeah fair, block efficiency on psyker is cringe

[upper sun]

it was still very bad

[winter siren]

ability CDR is top tier for me

[proper osprey]

Just studying this specimen

[plucky flax]

50% is pretty low.

[grand charm]

must've been a grenade then

[upper sun]

yeah i didnt know it was that important

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

my assail worked better than that staff smh

[winter siren]

some melee weapons can chop big bois in half

[plucky flax]

On purga staff you can dump damage stat.

[grand charm]

kenetic deflect works with parry 🙏

[wind spruce]

It's only worth it for gunners and even then only worth having two and even then only on some builds

[radiant frigate]

not picking gunner resistance makes me go ??

[midnight jolt]

so +3 stam and kinetic deflection is the minimum you need to be melee efficient, stam regen and anything else you won't miss

[proper osprey]

Made a funny surge staff build I carried a auric ms with it

[wind spruce]

Depends on my build

[proper osprey]

That just wrong

[feral verge]

dont find + stam at all needed

[radiant frigate]

yeah same

[midnight jolt]

I don't miss it, maybe I just got gud

[wind spruce]

Gunner resist on trauma or surge is just yikes. Learn to slide.

[proper osprey]

Stam regen is the most important thing

[upper sun]

idk the stamina feels nice

[grand charm]

i need some of the things you find to upgrade stuff, my thing is sitting at +2 stam rn, but i dont really need as much stam cus of peril, no?

[upper sun]

psykers already have good stamina regen

[stuck sinew]

Exactly

[proper osprey]

I don’t know about you but I like to out run beast of nurgel

[radiant frigate]

stamina regen is mostly whatever

i can block with peril if needed

[proper osprey]

Blud…

[vestal fulcrum]

yeee boiii

Agri iag for gunpsyker

[wind spruce]

Stam let's you do clutch res's way more often, let's you actually block something at full peril, let's you sprint for more than half a second, let's you block more without maxing out peril, it's just nice QoL

[midnight jolt]

and +3 stamina reduces the block peril consumption by a lot

[upper sun]

i mean getting stamina regen is better than extra dockets or grimoire resistance but still id like something better

[wind spruce]

+3 stam that is not regen

[grand charm]

i dont know about you but i like to curl up into a ball and cry when i see beast of nurgel

[radiant frigate]

i'm sure it does, but that only comes into play if i am somehow facetanking a daemonhost

[wind spruce]

Extra dockets is best perk

[proper osprey]

[upper sun]

no 😦

[proper osprey]

It’s so over

[urban sandal]

you'll come to learn the real pain is the chaos spawn

[upper sun]

money is the root of all evil

[proper osprey]

My siblings are dumb! I hate them!

[plucky flax]

I personally don't need any + stam curio but fair if it works for you.

[proper osprey]

BRO

[upper sun]

if you're broke you cant spend millions in brunts store thus you wont be sad when you get 90 310s

[winter siren]

so for a BON you need to figure out who it is targeting, that person should jsut run away and focus on not getting trapped. this lets the others shoot the bon in the big yellow weakspot on its back. if you get vomited on run away as it will try to eat you if you have vom on you

[wind spruce]

It's just nice to have @plucky flax

[plucky flax]

[wind spruce]

I like sprinting

[plucky flax]

I like hp and toughness more! Different preference is all.

[upper sun]

were the only people who arent racist towards you on the morningstar be nice

[wind spruce]

NO

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

i like to have as much toughness as reasonably possible

[proper osprey]

I know you only play sedition….

[midnight jolt]

I'm not the best to give the best advices, I'm newish so I went with something that will always be useful no matter what so here are my curios:

[plucky flax]

Yes so what?

[radiant frigate]

which i suppose is 170-ish

[proper osprey]

It speaks for itself

[winter siren]

https://tenor.com/view/there-can-be-only-one-gif-17652867202966242006

[radiant frigate]

solid setup

[plucky flax]

My sedition gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PRiD-sWsNQ

[flint aspen]

HOW ARE THREE PEOPLE DEAD

[upper sun]

🤔 thats not u

[plucky flax]

Tru

That's a really noob youtuber pls don't watch.

[wind spruce]

You are being selfish in war

[grand charm]

its me

[wind spruce]

Stop lie

[flint aspen]

Memes aside wtf

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

🤔

[flint aspen]

Three dead people in sedition how the kark

[plucky flax]

Exactly you tell me!

People be tripping in my sedition games.

[proper osprey]

It’s ok I’ll carry you through it bubby

[plucky flax]

(JK I was soloing)

[young ridge]

I would die from boredom

[proper osprey]

Love your pfp

[wind spruce]

Seriously though memes aside if you aren't running 11 stam your just bad

[radiant frigate]

i'm always surprised looking at how much people shoot/cast

[midnight jolt]

I need to learn to survive a daemonhost when I'm targeted

[radiant frigate]

even saw a zealot that primarily used a gun

[winter siren]

not bad. i love having stam regen on my stam curio. and i super rate ability cdr too. if you plan to pick up grims or take a lot of corruption form dogs and stuff you can spec into either corruption. snipers used to be almost mandatory but snipers are pretty weak atm. gunners kill me with stagger so the res doesnt help a lot imo

[wind spruce]

Dodge around a pillar or box or around corners

[upper sun]

9 stam/stamina regen/extra dockets/sprint efficiency

[wind spruce]

It will keep having to teleport

[plucky flax]

800k damage in 31 mins sedition game

[wind spruce]

Yes.

[radiant frigate]

gunners taking twice as long to break your toughness could very well be the difference between death and not taking a scratch

[urban sandal]

high mobility like the dueling swords makes it significantly easier

[upper sun]

speed run t4 missions dodge everything and flame your team when they die

best gameplay

[flint aspen]

no perk resistance against the scarier beings

That is the shotgunners

[wind spruce]

Seriously with hosts you just kite around a pillar or box

It can't touch u

[plucky flax]

Thanks I'll need the help.

[winter siren]

again i would pref ability cdr to vent at them and make them stop shooting me

[wind spruce]

You know you can have both right

[proper osprey]

[radiant frigate]

there aren't that many good things on curios anyhow

so just get both innit

[flint aspen]

Where shotgunners resist

[plucky flax]

Or just let people play without flaming them.

[radiant frigate]

where poxburster resist

[midnight jolt]

You are suffering from 2 mods showing the same info, go to the standard scoreboard and disable everything so ovenprof is the only one showing stuff like this:

[upper sun]

no its a well known fact that when you yell at people they play better

[stuck sinew]

Maybe at launch

When they were mini snipers

[plucky flax]

No I want to enable 2 damge statistic. They track different. I have very low damage on trauma with ovenproof.

[winter siren]

stam regen, ability cdr, hp/toughness, corruption res, i rate these higher than res vs specific enemy. but you go you

[midnight jolt]

😂

[wind spruce]

Bruh

[urban sandal]

wtf is the point of mutant resist

they already do fuck all dmg

[upper sun]

tbh some grimoire resistance might not be a bad idea the only issue is its wasted in 60% of missions

[radiant frigate]

mutants can kill you if grabbed in a bad moment, but it is the moment that killed you, rather than the mutant

[wind spruce]

That's because trauma has way more opportunity to be miscalculated with the reg scoreboard mod

[urban sandal]

might as well stack regular corruption resist

[radiant frigate]

grimoire resistance is trash because why pick them up anyway

[flint aspen]

money

[plucky flax]

No u. Don't lie I do more damage than what it shows.

[wind spruce]

Um well

[upper sun]

actually does regular corruption resistance help with them too?

[wind spruce]

No u x 2

Boom headshot

[urban sandal]

it do

[radiant frigate]

so i can buy more 300 rating greys i guess

[upper sun]

because your team picks them up and refuses to eat them like i do

[midnight jolt]

is OK to cope, we still love @plucky flax 😂

[upper sun]

I LOVE EATING CHAOS TOMES THEY TASTE SO YUMMY

[winter siren]

so you can play the awesome gamba slot machine game they included for player retention

[radiant frigate]

that is the exact point where you get annoyed at the ogryns picking them up, who are almost immune to it by default

while the squishies on the team are wheezing with 0 wounds

[plucky flax]

Mfw I kill 2.5x the amount of the guy in 2nd place but only deal 100k more damage.

[upper sun]

camping the store is better than brunts imo i wasted 500k and only got 3 370+ items

[midnight jolt]

I took 5 days break, not using my skills because hunting warp penance is killing my fun

[radiant frigate]

what penance

[upper sun]

ye ikno had a mission where i was zealot and the poor psyker had 50% of his hp gone

[midnight jolt]

it shall be named, the penance (warp battery)

[radiant frigate]

warpski batterovic

[upper sun]

the scab kills one takes sooo long

[radiant frigate]

go 300 seconds without pressing f challenge (and killing something worth a charge every 20? seconds)

trash penance with the new warp charges

it was easy in The Before Times™

just explode a head every 20s and you're good

didn't matter whose

[wind spruce]

scoreboard mod bad
https://outplayed.tv/media/WLRrGw

[winter siren]

what else am i gonna do with millions of ordos?

the cosmetic you can buy with them are trash and havent been updated

[upper sun]

invest in a retirement fund

[wind spruce]

definitive proof because i am a broken record

[radiant frigate]

idk, the black and white vet top looks good at least

[winter siren]

potato sack or penance looks the best imo

[radiant frigate]

Dingy Vet is a look

[winter siren]

hello there

[midnight jolt]

so using ovenproof (it still depends on scoreboard mod) while disabling scoreboard reports is the way to go right?

[wind spruce]

yes 1000%

Slightly cleaner proof
https://outplayed.tv/media/xbDPQw

Here you can see that the overkill damage when i headstab at the start isnt included

in the og mods calc

[worldly iron]

Sibling found new cursed gun

[winter siren]

i leave them on coz i love it when it triggers people when i show them my messy scoreboards

[worldly iron]

Emperor will guide my shots using the Scriers gaze

[wind spruce]

its more about the og scoreboard mod overinflating damage

[midnight jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ocd-trigger-bread-gif-24296770

OCD

[radiant frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841646619647803394/1177640310675865610/buh.gif?ex=65733e01&is=6560c901&hm=df5d57d0647d2f1d9c1d9684746b7915a30944ba7af1e6631e12e9cd29ef3c91&

[urban sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/969273475544019005.gif?size=48&name=DIESOFCRINGE&quality=lossless

[winter siren]

https://tenor.com/view/tonyabbott-auspol-onion-gif-14143970

[wind spruce]

Oh tony

I was just talking about that today

[winter siren]

in case anyone is wondering, that is a brown onion

and Australias ex prime minister

[upper sun]

WAKE THE HELL UP PSYKER

[midnight jolt]

This is helping me keep my warps up but is also making me play in a weird way 😂

[upper sun]

thats my staff please give it back

[midnight jolt]

All I want to do is electrocute

[winter siren]

pov when psyker explodes themselves and gets rescued

[radiant frigate]

:)

[upper sun]

we already killed everything you didnt have to do that

[midnight jolt]

I don't think surge is good there, because is not combined with any crit chance, I could be wrong

[radiant frigate]

it is combined with 100% crit chance

true aim

[upper sun]

whats true aim again?

[radiant frigate]

guaranteed ranged crit after 5 headshots

[upper sun]

oh "aiming" nvm

[radiant frigate]

it also considers melee headshots which are basically free

[midnight jolt]

I misread, I saw blazing and my brain computed "trauma staff"

[radiant frigate]

slap horde, see something big, whip out voidstrike, blast it to hell

• also burn things

[urban sandal]

willingly putting surge on trauma staff

[radiant frigate]

oh and would you look at that, a random 3 stamina curio in the shop

[winter siren]

voidstrike with surge one shotting crushers was fun

[midnight jolt]

I think this one will slap better:

[radiant frigate]

perhaps, but i don't use ranged so much that i would benefit from warp nexus

tried it

wasn't helpful

[winter siren]

you can charge peril with force sword and then swap to ranged

[radiant frigate]

yeah and then i will have true aim up

[rigid sky]

Warp nexus is usually a trap for me apart from with trauma

[radiant frigate]

so +20% crit chance matters not, as i cannot over-crit

[rigid sky]

Unless I run Shriek I always fly too close to the sun

And even when I do tbh

[winter siren]

you arent really playing psyker if you dont blow up at least once

[midnight jolt]

Well, don't underestimate crit chance on void, charge attacks which is what I mostly use hit multiple targets through weakspot

[rigid sky]

*many times per mission

[wind spruce]

i like this with assail weaving as much as melee

[urban sandal]

fun fact, you don't take fall damage while in the perils of the warp animation

[radiant frigate]

that would also be multiple stacks of true aim

so you can get another guaranteed crit

[midnight jolt]

• true aim in my statement, most times you end up "one shooting" (two shots) elites

[winter siren]

interesting, but im not sure how to abuse this

[radiant frigate]

i do not like assail anymore tbh

[midnight jolt]

convert to smite 😂

[radiant frigate]

i found it interesting when i first came back with the talent tree rework

i saw that, and scrier's gaze, and thought "cool, psychic blademaster archetype, sign me up"

[wind spruce]

I havent used it for months either, i overused it with las pistol and scriers running around like sonic on crack

[radiant frigate]

lo and behold, here i am playing brain burst/shriek exclusively

[wind spruce]

but ive come full circle just in the last two days

[flint aspen]

I'm gonna wait until I'm at a decently high level to use palpatine status

Gotta get that empowered psionics

[radiant frigate]

i have come full circle to forgetting any advice this channel has given me and just using my own builds

[urban sandal]

joined a relay station match today n spawned at the start whereas everyone else was dead across the map so I did it to drop onto the elevator that had already gone down

[wind spruce]

Voidstrike with shriek and disrupt destiny. Shriek helps keep up DD easily.

[urban sandal]

but it has a roof so I couldnt get in

[wind spruce]

add assail in on top of that

and its mwah chefs kiss

[wind spruce]

im here for the factual advice over the build advice

like how unintuitive mechanics work

[radiant frigate]

yes, like wildfire

[upper sun]

if you want unintuitive look at ammo packs

[radiant frigate]

and still i came back around to just using it

[upper sun]

you know they use charges not totall ammo amount?

[radiant frigate]

what, the crates?

[upper sun]

yeah

[radiant frigate]

makes sense to me

full refill x4

once for everyone

[upper sun]

theyre best used when you have zero ammo

[winter siren]

bonus points for installing the mod that adds palpatine voicelines

[radiant frigate]

back to the start we go

[wind spruce]

Quick swapping to voidstrike with assail procs transfer peril

the assails also trigger true aim

[flint aspen]

Funny thing

PD2's ammo bag also functions the same

Except you can actually see it visually get emptier and emptier

So why not Darktide's

[upper sun]

hey man not our circus not our monkeys not our problem

i will simply not use ammo

[winter siren]

there is a mod that shows charges on the ammo pack

you just have to accept that this game sucks without mods

[flint aspen]

That's the thing, it should visually show it getting emptier each use

[upper sun]

i do but also mods arent an option for me

[flint aspen]

If a karking game from 2013 can do it why not now

[upper sun]

l4d2 scoreboards pls

[winter siren]

like bethesda games, mods are what makes the game good. without mods i doubt i would have half the hours in VT2 or DT

[upper sun]

nah bethesda is dead

not even mods can fix starfield

[fossil snow]

what's the general full health of a psyker?

[flint aspen]

I have roughly 80 hours in this game and I run modless

[winter siren]

i had lots of fun in lots of bethesda games. but modded

[static needle]

Is this first voidstrike even worth buying when i have these other voidstrikes?

[fossil snow]

any clue if the rumors of it being REALLY mod unfriendly are true?

[upper sun]

two

two are good

skyrim and morrowind

[winter siren]

[winter siren]

and FO3+4

[fossil snow]

the fact that morrowind in skyrim was also good is worth at least 0.something

[upper sun]

nv better

[flint aspen]

After experiencing pd2 hud mods that give you way too much information I've tried to run as modless as possible

[wind spruce]

depends on ur available melk bucks. might be worth sitting on for if warp flurry becomes meta

but only if it would be meta to have maniacs aswell

[static needle]

Anyone who think this one is worth buying considering the other ones I have?

[stuck sinew]

FO3 walked so NV could run (sometimes without crashing)

[fossil snow]

modding is more fun than mods sometimes

[flint aspen]

I also like NV but the fanboys are just insufferable

[winter siren]

crosshair remap alone makes this game so much more bearable. most of the default crosshairs are so fkn bad

and dont even line up right sometimes

[fossil snow]

you know that feeling when you get the conflicting mods to juuuust about be stable?

delight

[flint aspen]

Crosshairs are even off centre?

The kark is this, HDTF?

[winter siren]

some of them are pure trash, and yes some of them dont line up right. the assault, staff default is pure cancer

[stuck sinew]

Plasma gun/revolver default crosshairs are just a joke

[winter siren]

yup

i like the little chevron for most guns

[stuck sinew]

Fanning revolver is nigh unuseable for me without that mod

The spread is surprisingly low when you can actually see the point of aim

[winter siren]

the fact there is no lock for weapons so you cant accidentally delete a good weapon in the base game is almost enough for me to uninstall

my favourites fixes that

[midnight jolt]

You don't need animation events for scoreboard anymore

[wind spruce]

Is it worth getting rid of to help my potato

[midnight jolt]

Maybe, this works for me:

ChatBlock
CleanForceBlocking
contracts_overlay
DynamicCrosshair
ForTheEmperor
Healthbars
NumericUI
ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin
scoreboard
sorted_mission_grid

Maybe I want DarkCache, the loading sometimes even with NVMes suck

[winter siren]

no barter with hadron or buy until rating?

if you gonna roll brunts you need those imo

[midnight jolt]

not until I'm rich, 1st world problem 😂

[winter siren]

cthru shields is also AMAZING for ogryn

maybe a lil cheaty, but it helps a lot to spot disablers

[midnight jolt]

I had spidey senses and number of dodges left on the screen but I end up not liking the visual noise

I need to see

which led me to this as well, may help with performance as well:

[upper sun]

I disable everything

ragdolls decals etc

[wind spruce]

I more meant in terms of too many mods tanking my performance

[rigid sky]

All blitzes are good

All staves are good

Gun psyker is good

Assail is balanced but strong

[midnight jolt]

double shield needs more side effects, is weak compared to bubble

[rigid sky]

You have to match your abilities to your weapons tbf

I love assail on gun psyker

I think with Surge I prefer Smite

[upper sun]

all except the fire one

[rigid sky]

Fire staff is good too

[upper sun]

everything else is just flat out better

[upper sun]

really good against dogs tho

[feral verge]

ogryn is the most braindead class

[feral verge]

purga staff is good

many people just dont use it right

i have gotten 1 million damage done, in multiple games, with it

[midnight jolt]

when team dies and one had a med pack 😦

[upper sun]

post the staff pls so i know what to look for

i havent had much luck with them

[feral verge]

you want exactly this

crit chance (not crit damage) is an okay perk to have on it

[upper sun]

ye i had that but 50% burn lol

[feral verge]

however

you will get waaay more mileage with an actual damage perk

[feral verge]

extremely unfair to use a staff with bad stats, then claim it's the worst of the staves

you want 76% burn or higher

[upper sun]

everything else was max

[feral verge]

lmao

burn is THE most important stat

[blazing drift]

is quell speed important on voidstrike staffs?

[feral verge]

quell speed isnt important on any staff

it's neat to have, but not at all necessary\

[blazing drift]

does it make your quell faster when you are using blitz?

[feral verge]

nope

[potent echo]

No

[blazing drift]

oh..

[feral verge]

only when staff is out

[feral verge]

here are some games where i get 1 milion (or close to it) dmg with purga

[blazing drift]

ah ty

[feral verge]

it's a good staff

[blazing drift]

oh

[upper sun]

blitz cools slowly you can switch and quell with another

[feral verge]

why not

[blazing drift]

what staff you think then? i just hit 30 and going to buy a bunch

[potent echo]

Force sword actually quells kinda fast

[feral verge]

lmfao

bro

[potent echo]

This is false

[wind spruce]

Yikes

[feral verge]

voidstrike staff does nothing after the nerf

[flint aspen]

Ranking on Psyker melee from highest to lowest?

[feral verge]

(hint, i was using voidstrike)

i only play auric/maelstrom

voidstrike can 1 shot crushers dude

[potent echo]

Ok you don't know what you're talking about

[wind spruce]

We're all talking about auric maelstrom lol

[potent echo]

And that's fine

[spice veldt]

it's true i only play sedition

[feral verge]

low intensity sedition

[flint aspen]

Im too scared to do auric

[wind spruce]

Us too that's why we play sedition

[upper sun]

t4 auric is fine

[feral verge]

dont make blanket statements without testing lol

some people here actually come for good advice, then people like you come in saying silly shit, and the poor folks looking for good advice take what you say as gospel

x

[spice veldt]

just asking questions of course

[wind spruce]

You know that's not true.

You said void was useless.

[feral verge]

some dude was asking about staves or whatever, then you come in saying not to use voidstrike becasue it was ruined after nerf

[flint aspen]

T4 Auric is basically high intense heresy, right?

[upper sun]

psyker is the most fun class

[flint aspen]

Because so far my only currently successful high intensity heresy run is my very first one because of quickplay

[spice veldt]

auric missions has a tension modifier which basically translates to a longer period of enemies spawning before the calm period happens

[upper sun]

idk i think its the same as T5 maybe even a bit easier

[wind spruce]

Maybe you're just not very good

[flint aspen]

Interesting, since I've done Damnation runs and it felt slightly easier

[feral verge]

i want to agree, but not come across as a dick.. .but yeah. maybe he's just better at being a zealot

both my psyker and zealot are around level 650

[upper sun]

psyker for me is still most fun class

[spice veldt]

not hard to be better than you of course

[feral verge]

i feel equally good at both (shut up arcotassh)

[spice veldt]

damn

[wind spruce]

I will carry that burden for you, brother

[feral verge]

and i do more damage with psyker than zealot

[spice veldt]

actually predicted me

wtf

[upper sun]

psyker then zealot then ogryn then doing the dishes then vet

[feral verge]

because i know what you are, arco

[flint aspen]

Hell, I've done a few maelstrom damnation runs and the closest it made me sweat was the mutant and poxhound horde modifier

[spice veldt]

a better and more moral player than you

[feral verge]

?

you?

morals?

https://tenor.com/view/go-my-scarab-gif-2161255343682007064

end him, my scarab

[spice veldt]

i didn't take you to be a person who asked questions

i thought you liked to just hit barrels without pause

and inflict physical (and mental) damage onto your teammates

[feral verge]

your life is a question

[spice veldt]

wow

[feral verge]

and the answer? its me. i am death

[upper sun]

thats perfectly fine once you kill the boss

[flint aspen]

My dueling sword accidentally grazing that barrel on the corner

OH SHI-

[wind spruce]

Destroying barrels givers more ordo dockets

Every sedition player knows this

[upper sun]

:THONKING:

[spice veldt]

it's true i do know that

[upper sun]

ONE MORE GAME TO LEVEL 30 ZEALOT

cant wait to never touch it again

[feral verge]

arco used to trash me for playing zealot

look at him now

playing zealot

[spice veldt]

shut up

you have no rights

[feral verge]

you have no lefts

[upper sun]

DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER

ok

[plucky flax]

The sweatiest ones are melee scab only or VEG one with green monsters.

[half turtle]

how do you get your history to say the clear status like that

mine just says the playernames

[urban sandal]

scab only mostly melee is fairly chill with trauma staff in comparison to some of the other modifiers imo

[flint aspen]

Green monsters?

The Nurgle buff ones?

[urban sandal]

nurgles blessing

[plucky flax]

Yeah unstaggerable.

Veri fun.

[flint aspen]

Oh, I was wondering what the green outline is for

[urban sandal]

trappers and dogs that are blessed are fuckin scary

[plucky flax]

They do extra damage, tankier, and are unstaggerable (depend on what hit them)

[flint aspen]

My first thought seeing them is

[plucky flax]

Well monsters are always unstaggerable when greens.

But normal green mobs, you can't stagger them with trauma or surge.

[flint aspen]

"oh hey free green outline"

[plucky flax]

Smite also doesn't stun green bois.

[flint aspen]

Sure helps a lot distinguishing them in both the environment and lighting

[half turtle]

someone told me that if you have +impact bonus you can stagger them

bc the buff is -100% impact

[flint aspen]

I heard melee only scab is nasty

[half turtle]

so if you have, say, 125% impact, you deal 25% impact instead of 0

but i've never tested this

[urban sandal]

just bring a trauma staff, you'll be carrying

[half turtle]

melee only scab is my fav

[plucky flax]

Yeah that is true. You can stagger green bois as ogryn with extra impact.

But on psyker you don't get any impact talents.

[half turtle]

thunderstrike on devil claw???

but yeah it's annoying with trauma

[plucky flax]

I certainly don't play devil's claw on my psyker.

[urban sandal]

I only used dclaw and never tried a dueling or force sword until a couple days ago

[half turtle]

someday it'll be meta

[urban sandal]

my psykers level 120 or some shit

[half turtle]

tbf devil claw is very fun

[plucky flax]

It's okay on vet for me.

More mobility than power sword with okay horde clear.

But then shovel with uncanny also has good mobility and decent horde clear.

[half turtle]

it's been my favorite melee weapon (on vet) ever since i learned that you can cancel the backswing of the parry counter

[plucky flax]

While it can kill crushers via that blessing.

[spice veldt]

a shredder grenade build is pretty fun on it

basically trauma staff but vet

[half turtle]

you can literally sit there and spam rmb + special in a group of like 6 ragers and just kill them all ez

no actual skill required

[plucky flax]

When I play vet I go ez mode like shovel + plasma gun.

And left click to win.

[half turtle]

oh yes this is also why i like plasma gun

[rigid sky]

Top of the kill feed

Bottom of the effort

[half turtle]

learning how to use the revolver against bulwarks?? nahh sounds cringe

plasma gun instead

[rigid sky]

Revolver is a zealot thing for me

[plucky flax]

I'd play voidstrike more if it pierces like plasma.

But the 6 cleave or whatever is kinda ass after tasting the power of the sun.

[half turtle]

i have a friend who basically only plays revolver on every class and does the shit where you can like, quickdraw pop the bulwark in the head twice to kill it when it swings at you in melee

seems like a lot of effort tho

[midnight jolt]

in a way it does, the RMB attacks goes through heads

[half turtle]

voidstrike also pierces bulwark shields

[rigid sky]

It goes through 6 heads

[plucky flax]

Yeah but it doesn't cleave like plasma.

[half turtle]

i feel like it's kinda shitty plasmagun that doesn't need ammo

[plucky flax]

Plasma cleaves way more elites.

100 cleave vs 6

[half turtle]

so your overall match dps ends up being higher

[rigid sky]

Plasma stops when it hits a thick wall

[half turtle]

cuz you just spam it at literally everything

[urban sandal]

the fact plasma can go through obstacles is crazy on top of what it's already capable of

[half turtle]

remember at launch when plasma didn't go through bulwark shields

good times

[midnight jolt]

but, remember, with surge blessing = double hit elites = wild fires spread

[half turtle]

i actually have no idea what blessings im supposed to put on plasmagun

mine just rolled like gloryhunter or something and i left it there

[rigid sky]

Blessings are low impact, perks matter more

Gets hot and blaze away are good iirc

[half turtle]

i think i have the opposite of gets hot that makes you charge faster when low heat

tbh i have never felt bad with this even though i'm sure it's super nonoptimal

i literally don't own any other plasmaguns or have any of the plasmagun blessings anyways

i only have like +12 on vet lol

[rigid sky]

Volatile though

Isn't that just for RMB?

99% of the time you LMB it

[plucky flax]

Hrm I run rending on my plasma.

Dunno if that or get hot is better.

[umbral helm]

I see a lot of plasma vets treat it like an autogun, magdumping at everything. they usually miss more than they hit

[magic hull]

Hey guys, I need advice on Voidstrike. How can i make a 2 tap Crusher build

and also good Illisi blessing and perks for horde clearing

[tulip kettle]

voidstrike will just, 2 tap crushers anyway

[magic hull]

i got max damage stat and it doesnt 🤔

[tulip kettle]

this is a 1 shot crushers build

idk what youre doing wrong but something.

[magic hull]

Surge maybe?

i dont have that yet

[tulip kettle]

well surge is what allows you to 1 shot

by effectively shooting a second lower dmg shot immediately after the first

you should be getting some damage from your tree and through warp rider / warp charges / disrupt destiny

[tulip kettle]

and of course +25 cara

[magic hull]

I dont know how to build this

[tulip kettle]

lol

not like that XD

its junk dude

unfixable that one

farm another

[magic hull]

shame

[urban sandal]

can still make it a 3/4 for the meantime though

elites is fine

[rigid sky]

Good god

[tulip kettle]

he just cant make it good

[rigid sky]

What a terrible pile of blessings and perks

[magic hull]

whats ideal perks for void

[tulip kettle]

you need + cara and surge and nexus for this

theres a few ways to build it

best dps is surge + warp nexus

i prefer flurry and transfer

then you need the correct damage perk

this is a really good void staff, the +unarmoured is also useful because it lets me one hit trash with LMB. This does insane damage to crusher / mauler squads, but does require a lot of attention to be paid to edging peril

This one performs differently, it does lower damage but i can shoot 2 charged shots per second at headheight forever without quelling, which is much better at dealing with large mixed hordes

[rigid sky]

You seem to have a small gravestone stuck to your staff sibling

[tulip kettle]

and finally, this is psykers strongest magic by far

[flint aspen]

Sibling's having another brain cramp again

[latent hill]

Hmm, I dunno if you want unyielding, maybe flak instead?

[tulip kettle]

i do want unyielding

for the monstrosity damage

its the thing columnus is best at

[latent hill]

I suppose. Though how often do you encounter those?

[tulip kettle]

i would prefer flak and unyielding thats true, but carapace is good enough as flak just dies anyway

erm

like 4-8 times a mission?>

[umbral helm]

weakened monstrosities modifier go brrr

[latent hill]

At most you’ll encounter two

[tulip kettle]

had a game with that modifier yesterday, me and another player had over 100k boss dmg each

lol

maybe in malice

[latent hill]

Unless as the guy above me said, weakened monstrosity modifier

[umbral helm]

depends on the mission. I've had a good few games where it was back to back bosses

[tulip kettle]

ive seen 2 weakened and a full strength at the same time

was hella fun

[umbral helm]

definitely very chaotic depending on what you get. I do enjoy columnus on weakened monstrosity missions though with my setup, killing a weakened boss in 1 clip or less is funny

keeping a celerity stim on hand those missions for even more funny

you'd probably get more mileage out of the damage one, but I just like the fast fire rate

[latent hill]

Yeah, I still don’t find it that useful, unless you’re in the orthus offensive mission

And weakened mon whatnot

Even then, I wouldn’t waste a clip on them

[umbral helm]

well, unyielding also applies to problem targets like reapers and bulwarks, which is handy. the issue is honestly more that columnus just doesn't need other damage modifiers because things already die so fast with all the crit strings and damage buffs you stack on top of it typically. so, having a buff to the one thing that won't die as quickly feels practical. but it's preference, ultimately

when it comes to guns I'm more of a Vraks kinda guy, actually. but I don't deny that columnus is just really good at what it does

[latent hill]

True enough.

What’s the bloody difference between the two anyways?

[umbral helm]

the two vraks?

one is single shot, one is three round burst. the mkVII and mkIII respectively

I prefer the single-shot one because I like DMRs, but I built the burst one recently and it's a funny little gun

[latent hill]

Columnus is full auto right?

[umbral helm]

yeah

and agripnaa is two round burst, iirc. at least the headhunter is. haven't built a graia but believe it's full auto as well, though I think it shoots slower than columnus does

[rigid sky]

Agri headhunter is 2-round, the IAG and Braced are full auto, the revolver is single shot (but fannable)

Think that's every Agri weapon

Oh, and the shotgun is semi-automatic with special slug shells

[idle aurora]

blazing spirit on voidstrike is useless? Or actually can make a proper build with it?

[rigid sky]

Blazing spirit is only for Trauma

[radiant frigate]

lies and slander

convert to true aim surge blazing spirit voidstrike today

or don't

[zenith vigil]

is this one good

[radiant frigate]

exchange barrage for warp flurry and trade sprint efficiency for, say, flak or something imo

get a second opinion though

[zenith vigil]

thanks. now waiting for second opinion 😄

[radiant frigate]

🪬
🙏🏻

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[zenith vigil]

you agree with kat? 😄

[plucky flax]

Yes

[zenith vigil]

thx, buying it 😄

[gloomy valve]

Hi siblings, curious to ask anyone doing melee build psyker with Scriers Gaze?
IM not into using knife, will Deimos force sword help?

[stuck sinew]

Deimos is a good pick

[radiant frigate]

if you intend to mainly melee i recommend illisi

[stuck sinew]

Illisi can't really handle melee elites as well

[hearty oak]

Melk feeling generous today

[stuck sinew]

Illisi is pure horde clear, Deimos is better if you want a generalist primary weapon

[gloomy valve]

oh i tried illisi, the negative on the dodge fucks me up bad

even with 75% mobility

still negative

[gloomy valve]

my talent tree consists of brainburster + 10% chance on attack
scrier's gaze and disrupt destiny

[spice veldt]

illisi is still alright if you're looking for mainly melee since it is a force sword and has uncanny strike

[midnight jolt]

I'm tempted to take the savage sweep from the 1st one, replace rampage on the 2nd one and caparace by flak and call it

or replace wrath by shread and weak spot dmg by flak on the 1st one

[patent wing]

what curios do u guys run
(im on stam, tough, hp)

[midnight jolt]

I have the most generic shit I could until I figure something better, for now this is my "safe setup":

[plucky flax]

2x hp 1x toughness

[midnight jolt]

The 3 stamina is quite useful, combined with kinetic deflection you can block forever

that's why I compensate everywhere else with +5% HP/toughness

it keeps me alive for the most part, as a newish player

[orchid shadow]

1 stam, 1 hp, 1 toughness. All 3 are gunner, CDR, and block efficiency.

[patent wing]

i used to play max toughness because the psyker has so many toughness regen nodes but idk it does not help much vs mele

[midnight jolt]

Block efficiency is a waste on Psykers IMHO

[patent wing]

yeah

ability cooldown is good too imo

[midnight jolt]

oh yeah, CDR is always good

it can keep venting out of CD as you hit 100% peril, spamming it all the time for example 😂

because I'm not sure what I want yet, I went generic HP/toughness, gunners resistance is like a most with the current game

[patent wing]

btw im still mad that i cant take shriek with the crit node
i want horizontal nodes pls

[feral verge]

Cdr isn't always good

Maybe if you're new and just blow up every 5 mins

[orchid shadow]

I haven't switched out my curios for a year back when we could just sit and block. I'm too lazy. Plus I like diving gunners, so I have to do a lot of blocking.

[feral verge]

But if you are decent, you don't need cdr to prevent blowing up, at all

It's only giving you like 4 seconds less

[orchid shadow]

It's not about preventing blowing up for me. 4 seconds is a lot, especially when you can get it down to 12 seconds shriek spam.

[midnight jolt]

I personally don't use it, but I can see why is good, the blowing up was a bad example, but still, spamming venting playing with 100% peril for lots of extra damage if CDR allows it is not a bad strat

[feral verge]

I don't see much point in it, when running the cdr reduction talents

[midnight jolt]

My 1st devil's claw weapon, let me see how I like it and do with it:

[orchid shadow]

I find it extremely useful. Those few seconds let me cycle vent and creeping flames faster, emergency vent a trapper or bomber from finishing their attack or stop a horde from closing in on that veteran that's too busy looking down a scope. The faster I can use it, the better.

I rarely hold on to my ability if there's even a remotely a good reason to use it and I have decent stacks.

[feral verge]

i rarely hold my ability too

i spam it well enough without cdr

[orchid shadow]

Hey, you do you. I'll just spam it more. 😛

[feral verge]

the ult comes back so quick sometimes i have to deliberately build peril to 83%

because i didnt have enough time to build it there naturally

[upper sun]

tbh i tend to explode whenever a teammate gets mutied or theres a boss so i hold it so i do hold it sometimes

oh hey i saved you now its your turn

[river dawn]

If i crit while burning a horde with the Purgatus staff, will it proc these stacks? And will said stacks increase the damage of the soul burn? Since if i understood correctly, its a warp attack too right?

[feral verge]

i'd only consider cdr perk on a bubble shield spam build

[feral verge]

yes

[river dawn]

So this is basically a purgatus self buff?

[feral verge]

yeah

[river dawn]

sweet

[feral verge]

purga can do insane dmg

[midnight jolt]

what's the devil's claw parry timing?

[feral verge]

i dont use it

[empty shuttle]

what's the best build for voidstrike staff?

[potent echo]

Huge, like almost the entire animation

[magic hull]

Does Ranged Damage Boost only apply to non warp weapons?

[potent echo]

You can for real just spam it against ragers

Although you would want to time for overheads

[midnight jolt]

when should I parry? when the attack starts? when it is about to hit? I'm asking because parry has different set of rules depending on the game

[potent echo]

It parries on frame 1

Don't worry none of the dark souls nonsense here

[midnight jolt]

roger

[flint aspen]

uprising moment

fellow psyker blew his brains out not even five minutes into the run

me gets flung by a barrel after someone shot it

[flint plover]

uprising? that happened to me in an auric damnation last night

[upper sun]

where is the purgatus god?

should i replace groaners and upgrade flurry or what?

[dim parrot]

I would upgrade both perks, leave the blessings

[zinc phoenix]

I’d vendor it because lol burgatus

[midnight jolt]

Some bad news, if you read the atheneum:

[upper sun]

🤔 groaners has to go 100% idk about the other change

1% burn

i think ill live

[flint plover]

yeah, it's not 'optimal', but i dont think you'd notice the difference in most situations

[midnight jolt]

you will but there is a breakpoint in regards to amount of stacks

[flint plover]

since things die in like five nanoseconds..

[flint aspen]

yeah, got two psyker teammates who blew their brains out

and a trigger happy vet who probably didn't care that he shot a barrel or not

[upper sun]

we need more dockets allowcated to psyker mental health services.......

[orchid shadow]

Our psychiatrists would probably be psykers too. Just heads exploding everywhere at that point.

[midnight jolt]

Not really, the only one that always wins dialogs against psykers are Ogryns so they be theraphists 😂

[upper sun]

maybe ogryn are our only friends on the entire morningstar

[vocal cliff]

Had a psyker who blew up not even 1 minute into an auric mael

[midnight jolt]

is this worth for a fire trauma?

[zinc phoenix]

Not really

[frail escarp]

Anyone knows why i have 4 stamina bars on missions when i have a +3 stamina curio and sword gives 2?

i even cheked in the meatgrinder and there i have 5

is there a modifier that reduces stamina?

[tulip kettle]

is your stamina curio 75 base power?

[frail escarp]

YE

[tulip kettle]

thasts why

[frail escarp]

caps

[tulip kettle]

its a weird bug

[frail escarp]

but it's +3 :d

[tulip kettle]

it needs 76 power

to actually be +3 in game

[frail escarp]

lol

[tulip kettle]

it shows right in psyk but not in game

[frail escarp]

that's so dumb 😄

So is it still more than a lower rating curio at least?

or im actually missing out on a full bar because of this

what i mean to ask is can i have like 90% of a bar

[flint aspen]

warp charges?

[plucky flax]

27 mins not bad for purga I guess.

[flint aspen]

on a scale of 1 to 10 how creatively bankrupt is this name

[smoky mulch]

I mean, he knows what he's about

[upper sun]

mouron seems very intelligent

[midnight jolt]

DeezNutzEmperor

imagine that on the subtitles while praising the emperor 😂

[hearty dagger]

Fellas

Let's say i have gone a bit off the deep end and i'm running chainsword on psyker.

What roll?

[upper sun]

thats zealot territory theyd know what to run with chainswords

[midnight jolt]

See atheneum, pinned on the channel, is not like written in stone but has a good base to start off

[hearty dagger]

Let's fucking roll

[flint aspen]

inb4 bricked

[bright yoke]

thoughts 🤔

[earnest laurel]

it appears to be a sword

[bright yoke]

nani!

[earnest laurel]

both the perks and blessing kinda ass

[feral verge]

precog to uncanny strike

[feral verge]

replace groaners

[feral verge]

repalce block eff. with maniac damage

[upper sun]

groaners to flak and upgrade flurry?

or crit maybe

[feral verge]

elite damage to maniac

[feral verge]

no crit chance

damage perk is always better

crit chance is not bad, but direct damage is better

optimal purga

warp flurry t3 to t4 is not gonna be a big difference

damage perks more important

[upper sun]

okie sounds good

[median siren]

When would I use which staff? And is the Surge Staff any good now?

[harsh urchin]

You can use any staff you like

Just make sure your other weapons shore up the weaknesses

[potent echo]

surge is single target, its just agile and excels at killing specials and gunners mainly

and yea you should round out your loadout with some horde control

assail, smite, dclaw, illisi, etc

[median siren]

I was planning to run the Deimos and focus on cc with Smite

[harsh urchin]

Dont focus on cc

[median siren]

Was thinking either Surge or Void to supplement

[feral verge]

dont reccomend deimos and surge together

[harsh urchin]

Your main weapon is the staff

[feral verge]

not usually a good idea to put two single target weapons together

[harsh urchin]

The blitz ability you use when you need to

[potent echo]

unless you are insane like me, deimos everyday

[feral verge]

want to use deimos? use purga, trauma

voidstrike can kinda flex

[median siren]

I see

[feral verge]

because it can single target and horde clear

[median siren]

Thanks so much you guys

[feral verge]

yw

[potent echo]

Actually I will argue that Deimos has very decent mixed horde performance

[radiant sleet]

True, it's not quite illisi but you can drill your way out of a horde with deimos pretty well with left click

[potent echo]

The H2 can easy snipe elites inside the hordes, and L1>H2 is decent for pure horde

[midnight jolt]

My level of insanity is bigger, I use a tactical axe 😂

[potent echo]

Or even H1 > H2

[potent echo]

You win

[midnight jolt]

My melee collection, so far the axe is my favorite, the reason for it is because I like to try every weapon and have my own experience,
generally speaking a weapon can be considered better than another for a Psyker, but sometimes more tecnical and difficult weapons make this more fun 😉

The thing I like the most about the tac axe mk2 is the push + counter, it cleaves sometimes and one shots

Speed wise is in between DS4 and combat blade

As in faster than DS4 and slower than blade

[feral verge]

deimos takes the most time to master

i think it's the most skill based weapon in psyker's melee kit

[earnest laurel]

Is power up penance bugged? it says you have to kill with brainburst, but I am still making progress without killing with brainburst or max charges, I just kinda have brainburst with me

[mortal granite]

Do ypu have the skill that allows brain burst to activate on damage dealt?

If so that could proct the challenge to gain progress

[rigid sky]

So, I'm arguing with somebody on reddit but I'm not confident in my position so I figured I'd ask here for clarity. Wildfire for purgatus, vs wildfire for blazing Trauma?

(Or both or neither)

[cold elm]

Psyker players who rely on only smite make me angry. Especially when they have a trauma staff that they refuse to use

God smite is such a shit ability

[earnest laurel]

sick

[cold elm]

Maybe instead of immobilizing the enemy you just kill it?

[feral verge]

I've been told purga does not proc wildfire, however I think blazing trauma does

[cold elm]

I dunno. Just an idea

[feral verge]

Wildfire isn't a very strong ability anyway, unfortunately

[cold elm]

Purga does proc wildfire

[rigid sky]

I get that it's generally quite shitty

[cold elm]

Wildfire is just bad tho. It’s worth picking the other node instead

[rigid sky]

But I feel like it works well enough for Trauma because it can germinate out more

[cold elm]

Blaze trauma it’s ok for

And purga it’s ok for

But any other build it’s a waste of a perk

[rigid sky]

While with Purgatus it tends to already not be able to add on

[long wharf]

Wildfire procs regardless of soulblaze source

It's just not that great

[cold elm]

Yes. This

[rigid sky]

Because you're already incinerating the next layer of the horde

Before the wildfire can spread itself

[zinc phoenix]

smite with trauma is a derp ass choice

Trauma + bb blessed

[cold elm]

Oh my god tell me about it

[rigid sky]

But Trauma application is pulsed so it can actually do some work

Yeah, gotta be brain Rupture for trauma

[cold elm]

We lost the round because this dumbass wouldn’t use the trauma staff to kill crushers and was instead trying to smite them

[rigid sky]

Why would you smite

It's doubling up on the same task

But worse

[cold elm]

Smite is so bad omfg

[rigid sky]

And leaving a gaping hole for your ranged ability

[zinc phoenix]

Smite is great for surge and you can have a massive impact extremely high damage fire powered build

[rigid sky]

At least Assail I can understand

[zinc phoenix]

But with trauma the peril eco is awful

[zinc phoenix]

Not with blaze trauma

That would be a mess

[cold elm]

Smite is ok with surge but I would just pick assail over it

As assail can actually kill things

[rigid sky]

I prefer Rupture anyway myself with Blaze trauma

[cold elm]

Smite can’t

I too prefer bb

[mortal granite]

I main smite on my psyker

[rigid sky]

I'd take assail way over smite though

I use Smite only with Surge right now. Debating over it for Void.

[cold elm]

This

[patent wing]

how long can one quell before warp flurry wears off?

[earnest laurel]

Zealots who rely on knife make me angry. Especially when they have revolver they can pick off enemies from afar.

[zinc phoenix]

Smite is way better than assail in t5 mael imo

Unless you’re gunker

[cold elm]

Depends on your quell speed

[zinc phoenix]

In which case right side tree go brrrr and crutch on col iag

[patent wing]

but it does not break it instantly no?

[cold elm]

Warp flurry isn’t dependent on peril level

No

[long wharf]

I play assail+void+EP

[patent wing]

ok gud

[cold elm]

Warp flurry is on a cooldown or about 2 seconds per charge

[zinc phoenix]

It’s a valid choice

[cold elm]

Don’t have the exact numbers but it’s around there

[patent wing]

would be stupid if we quell and lose all stacks

[long wharf]

I tried giving surge a chance instead of void, but I kept finding myself wishing I had void instead

[cold elm]

Depends. Get the quell speed perks and traits and you’ll be fine

[zinc phoenix]

Meanwhile whenever I play void I wonder why I’m not running blaze trauma 😂

[long wharf]

Surge doesn’t even kill more quickly than void

[mighty fractal]

Wildfire would be more useful if there were more talents that had conditions attached to burning targets

[patent wing]

unpopular build: i use brain burst for my gunker to do sth against crushers gangs

[cold elm]

I can keep up warp flurry 3 on a surge staff pretty much the entire match if I focus on it

[cold elm]

Not too bad tbh

Especially depending on which gun

[patent wing]

columnus

[zinc phoenix]

SG + col IAG = what crusher

[mighty fractal]

Currently, the only Soulburn synergy is with In Fire Reborn, and that's already competing with Psychic Vampire

[long wharf]

Wildfire would be better if it distributed all of the stacks on the enemy around it, without the 4 stack cap

[cold elm]

I prefer bb for when I have to kill things at range and I don’t have a clear shot on them

[mighty fractal]

Yes

[cold elm]

Based gunker

[tulip kettle]

also, you run duelling sword or deimos with gunker generally

so just like, stab them in the face?

[mighty fractal]

The problem is that in its current state DUE to the lack of interactions with Soulburn, you are taking Wildfire for damage

[cold elm]

I don’t have a decent dueling sword so I use illisi

[patent wing]

nah i have illisi because i need sth against hordes if i dont take assail

[long wharf]

Wildfire for damage is pointless

[cold elm]

This

[cold elm]

Also this

[tulip kettle]

lol exactly

[mighty fractal]

and with the way Wildfire works currently, it's often either spreading no stacks at all or spreading stacks that won't achieve any new breakpoints

[tulip kettle]

so take assail and a DS / deimos

you cover all bases

[cold elm]

Wildfire is garbage dogshit never take it it deals like 20 damage at max stacks

It’s so bad

[mighty fractal]

I'm arguing exactly that lol

[cold elm]

It’s not even funny

[tulip kettle]

well than i agree with you

[patent wing]

yeah but personally i dont like to melee 6 crushers with a deimos, thats why i bring brainburst and just for emergency i have uncanny on illisi

[tulip kettle]

columnus + DS4 + assail is the meta gunker build

easy and boring

deimos is the safest thing ever vs crushers

just tap em and they fall down

[patent wing]

yeah but only h2

and needs 2 push attacks that have limited cleave

[long wharf]

Crushers die when getting stabbed in the face, either way

[mighty fractal]

Wildfire would have a use if:

1. It outright killed poxwalkers outside of your range before they get to you, reliably
2. It reliably reduced the number of hits needed to kill a bruiser from 3 to 2, or 2 to 1

[tulip kettle]

all you do is L1=H2 on deimos

[cold elm]

With disrupt destiny and the other ult that’s not shield or force blast

[mighty fractal]

But it doesn't do that

[patent wing]

also the invisible hit from th 5th crusher is dangerous

[mighty fractal]

so Wildfire is pointless

[viscid matrix]

There is one instance where wildfire is usable, burning trauma staff

[mighty fractal]

No, not really

that's what we're arguing

[tulip kettle]

wildfire is useful on blaze trauma

[cold elm]

It’s still like 20 extra damage

It’s so bad

Not worth it

[tulip kettle]

it also extends the range and width of purgatus

[cold elm]

Take a different perk

[mighty fractal]

I have never seen a convincing argument for running Wildfire on Blaze Trauma, I'm sorry