#psyker-class

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upper sun
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is there a build for speed running t1-t2 missions?

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warp nexus+warp flurry/surge + craap/maniac/flak depending on what you get

stone canyon
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Surge+Nexus is the meta as Surge makes it hit twice on crit and Nexus adds more crit chance, but it works fine with other options too

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Its strong enough on its own to not need everything optimal

stone canyon
drifting charm
stone canyon
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So few enemies in t1-t2 that probably ColumnusV Gunker with Knife for fast movement would be my choice, no need to load any Staffs but just run max speed and instantly eliminate any enemy with a critting burst

drifting charm
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trying to get the blessings for crits and double void ball things

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But Iw ent for the crits + soulburn thing

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not sure if thats any good

upper sun
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what about staffs and blitz?

stone canyon
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Beware, you might get addicted to the speed

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Knives are the crystalmeth of Darktide

upper sun
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mark 4 is the meta for knives right?

stone canyon
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Mk3 more single target, new one has better horde clear, both work

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Horde clear on both still only just mediocre

upper sun
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eh i can use assail for clear

untold niche
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More consistent damage
Flurry + nexus

One tap crusher / better burst damage
Nexus + surge

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In mu experience flurry felt better to use. But personally I'm running surge

drifting charm
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stil trying to get that surge blessing

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god damn emprah be cursing me with warp flurry

ornate hamlet
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Sprint speed+ and stamina+

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And just do sprinting heavy attack slides

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If you wanna be funny yiu can do that with Rev Up too

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:^)

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But it's not the knife memes

lavish glade
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Just ran a damnation maelstrom w just me and a zealoy trauma staff is gamer

deep pine
magic hull
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how should i build this

fresh halo
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Is this any good, Siblings ?

cold elm
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What are yalls opinions on the surge staff. Is it good or is it trash.

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Not really sure which staff I should take. I do like the damage of the surge staff tho

plucky flax
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Imo it's super strong.

cold elm
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I can’t decide between the surge and the trauma staff

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I’ve been experimenting with both. And I feel like I like the surge staff better. But I want to know y’all’s opinion on it’s performance

fresh halo
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Surge is really strong.

orchid shadow
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Two very different playstyles. Best to ask yourself what you like about the Surge staff over the Trauma. Do you like single target more than AoE?

cold elm
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I don’t like how unpredictable the trauma staff throws enemies around

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And my sword is amazing for horde clearing

orchid shadow
cold elm
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Hmm. Then I need more practice with the trauma staff

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I do enjoy the range and speed you can damage high health enemies with the surge staff tho

tawny jetty
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Ranged dmg to elites ain't bad though

plucky flax
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Yeah surge and trauma are good at very different thing. Single target dps vs huge aoe damage (blaze trauma).

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I play both extensively. My fav 2 staves by far.

tawny jetty
radiant frigate
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surge is ok

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good for turning your brain off and letting spark and flame do the rest

tawny jetty
plucky flax
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Perhaps try it with a deflector force sword to block shooters while you move closer.

fluid dawn
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Ds5 always used Ds4 personally how good is it?

tawny jetty
radiant frigate
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i only struggle with death

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everything else is fine

tawny jetty
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Well that too

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Getting hit...a bunch

fresh halo
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Thought it was a dump-stat, especially on a sword that has this much ease in blocking everything.

tawny jetty
fluid dawn
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Preferably still above 50 and cleave isn’t a dump it’s just that above 70% it does have much growth but you want it since it feels good on horde with light

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My main Ds4 for reference

untold niche
hazy wagon
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i am under the impression that this is a good staff, even tho i changed both perks before knowing how crafting really worked, am i right?

prime elk
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yeah that's good

vestal fulcrum
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It’s a good staff for sure

hazy wagon
prime elk
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crit strike chance is good on surge

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idk if elite ranged damage is meta, but it's good too

hazy wagon
prime elk
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some will take nexus/surge (the blessing) for example

untold niche
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but surge charge so fast anyway

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more of peril i guess

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but yeah just test your break points

fluid dawn
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I loved surge when it could hit weak spot still love it but it feels slightly worse just a tad

prime elk
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surge is still fun, even if weaker on the raw damage output side =/

hazy wagon
fluid dawn
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That’s how all weapons are tbh couldn’t play except with deflector blaze sword for the longest time

untold niche
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im not a surge user so icant help with build but i would encourage you to post your build and let others comment

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like your skill tree

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use this website

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and screenshot

fluid dawn
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Me even with surge picking smite and thinking yep I’ll need this šŸ™‚

hazy wagon
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this is what i run on damnation

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swap barrier for the venting one on lower difficulties

untold niche
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orange is majority agreed but debatable and/or situational

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actually the assail one only the top one should be circled but you are not running assail

hazy wagon
untold niche
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for the smite one, because its kind of shit (forgot the explanation but any regular here will tell you that)

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this one because you can quell while sliding

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this one doesn't work

fluid dawn
vestal fulcrum
untold niche
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not effective / meaningful?

vestal fulcrum
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It does exactly what is typed in the description, but the effect is rather obscure and applies to a portion of how dodge works you typically don’t consider

untold niche
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oh yeah ti doesnt extend iframe right?

prime elk
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i like it on my melee psyker build

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but that's about it

vestal fulcrum
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It extends the duration of ā€œpost-melee dodge stateā€ from 0.2 to 0.3 seconds

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IDK if it’s the right term for it

untold niche
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wat does that mean

vestal fulcrum
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It’s… very hard to notice the difference

untold niche
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ahh, i just remember you guys say never take it

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so i guess not meaningful.

fluid dawn
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Seems great with ds5 but idk about anything else

vestal fulcrum
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I never said that uwot

(But I’m not the authority here, I usually have my own takes on things)

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And Anticipation is still a relatively low value skill

untold niche
untold niche
vestal fulcrum
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Dw about it

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I’m jesting

untold niche
vestal fulcrum
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Wait, and who’s that 1% top Psyker?

untold niche
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mr pygex

vestal fulcrum
untold niche
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actually i shouldnt tell him to copy it

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but rathert tell him ti sby pygex

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all my builds other than the void one which is prob same for everyone else out there is quite personal

plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
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I’m constantly having skill issues as Psyker, but I suppose it’s part of the process of getting better and/or understanding more about the game

plucky flax
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Sometimes silent trapper or burster just get you.

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Nothing can do

vestal fulcrum
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I wonder if stacking Corruption resist against bursters is the way to go, to not instantly die from 3 consecutive explosions

plucky flax
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Stack hp and corruption resistance whatthefuck_heresy

vestal fulcrum
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(Maybe 2 if I’m unlucky and get hit by the inner corruption radius)

plucky flax
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When patch 13 came out people shot bursters in my face all the time. Its calmed down now. I think all the new players left.

hazy wagon
halcyon creek
plucky flax
hazy wagon
plucky flax
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Yeah kill stuff fast = less chance of taking damage too

cold elm
unkempt hare
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whats the key stone on left again?

hazy wagon
cold elm
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Get rid of wildfire too

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Unless you are using a purgatus staff wildfire is completely useless

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It does like 6 damage per tick which is absolutely nothing

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It’s a waste of a skill point

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Not to mention they have to already be on fire for it to even proc

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I would swap wildfire for an ability cooldown talent

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As those are actually incredibly useful

unkempt hare
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there was one where you kill an elite and it spreads soulblaze?

cold elm
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That one’s basically another throwaway

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As it deals like 12 damage over time

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And pox walkers have 300 health

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You do the math

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It’s garbage

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Also force push I would not take

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It’s only really good when using purge staff with the soulblaze trait

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Or when you are using it as training wheels to learn a new staff

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Otherwise take bubble or scryers gaze

hazy wagon
haughty star
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It's objectively mandatory for a surge/smite build

cold elm
haughty star
cold elm
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(Also fun note scryers gaze is the BEST damage buff in the game)

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Scryers gaze is absolutely busted

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Smite is iffy. I personally think it’s garbage as it takes you completely out of the fight waiting for your allies to do the work when if you equipped something like a trauma staff everything would already be dead

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And please do not use smite on pox walker hordes. Dear god.

fluid dawn
cold elm
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Just use your sword

haughty star
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It's a good tool

cold elm
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So the problem with smite is that yes it stuns the horde but it’s taking you out of the fight

unkempt hare
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pushing shit off ledges like a cat is always funny

cold elm
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And then it requires another player to be taken out of said fight to kill your horde

haughty star
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You use smite, than push

untold niche
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quick qn

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does surge proc true aim?

cold elm
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That’s 50% of your teams damage focused on horde clearing

untold niche
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basicaly surge headshot?

zinc phoenix
# hazy wagon why?

kills extremely slow, makes it much harder to mass blend them with cleave on melee weapons

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also burns peril on a nothing target

cold elm
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Surge can not target headshots with the charged attack

cold elm
haughty star
zinc phoenix
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"look ma i staggered the pox walkers... oh fuck crushers"

cold elm
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Smite is a new player trap

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Just dodge and use your sword

zinc phoenix
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smite is great

spice veldt
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smite is pretty good

untold niche
zinc phoenix
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but not against pox walkers

spice veldt
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it's just fucking boring

cold elm
plucky flax
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I run wildfire SadgeCry

fluid dawn
spice veldt
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and has a garbage design

cold elm
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A force sword secondary push will knock down crushers

zinc phoenix
haughty star
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Smite will stop a pack

cold elm
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You can spam the push.

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Which gives you time to get away

spice veldt
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yeah but theyre threats in groups and when mixed with other enemies

unkempt hare
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ragers tho

cold elm
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Smite has you stay in place

zinc phoenix
viral flare
haughty star
untold niche
spice veldt
zinc phoenix
hazy wagon
unkempt hare
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more than once ive been caught off guard by ragers during a horde

cold elm
spice veldt
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it used to do that but not anymore

fluid dawn
cerulean pollen
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W or L trinket?

cold elm
fluid dawn
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Mid

haughty star
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Mid

cold elm
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But I would look for one with better max health

haughty star
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Damn it

plucky flax
cerulean pollen
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My current ones are

+1 Wound
+2 Stamina
+15% Toughness

plucky flax
untold niche
# spice veldt not anymore

thanks
so sad.

I was thinking FS could make psyker have more build variety by chaning this node to something like
"DD now retargets the closest applicable enemy when target is more than X meters away"

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evne without surge headshot i think thats a good change still

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makes DD easier to play

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at the cost of 1 node

spice veldt
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we'll see when they make DD work properly

viral flare
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disrupt destiny feels like ass to play with but it's nice having the double movement speed buffs

untold niche
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can you remind me why its not working properly again

spice veldt
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the economy seems fine to me to just be based off of kills as long as it actually works

viral flare
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outrunning zealots is funny

zinc phoenix
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DD kinda works if you go lasgun assail

untold niche
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also arco, just wanna ask
is it possible to make a surge assail build?
I thought it would be very cool to qq swap surge staff into assail and then qq swap to your weapon to get the blessing thing

spice veldt
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kills on marked targets sometimes does not grant stacks

untold niche
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more cancels than gunker

fluid dawn
untold niche
viral flare
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when do you get the toughness bonus from using psionics with smite

untold niche
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so im not sure how to build it

untold niche
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need ur help bossman

spice veldt
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assail is perfectly fine without EP

cold elm
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This guide pretty much explains everything

plucky flax
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My surge blitz cancel vid got more dislikes than usual. People be hating on memes. whatthefuck_heresy

untold niche
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smite swap to assail swap to melee

plucky flax
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You do it as you fren.

untold niche
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whats fren

plucky flax
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I'm not removing wildfire for assail on surge.

open ridge
cold elm
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Absolutely garbage perk

plucky flax
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Yeah but the beauty of 30 points system is you can play however you want.

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Pls no flame peepoCryfade

fluid dawn
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Ngl I think I had wildfire on most of my builds until a month ago

haughty star
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I just don't like assail. Feels clunky

lyric burrow
haughty star
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Smite just so good at locking up a horde lol it increases survival alot on auric

open ridge
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I have a dedicated flame build in hopes it will one day be a better option

fluid dawn
open ridge
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focuses on toughness, movement speed, and critical hits

untold niche
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arco this work?

viral flare
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the warp charge soulblaze perk aint worth it imo

spice veldt
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sure y not though I don't like the warp charges branch

open ridge
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only if using purgatus

open ridge
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warp charges are nice when using venting shriek and shield

untold niche
fluid dawn
viral flare
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im gonna try scrier's infernus recon again

unkempt hare
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I got a 380 purgatus so might be worth it

viral flare
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wish me luck

spice veldt
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I think it's fine since surge does generate a bunch of peril

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just to make taking solidity less painful because of puppet master

fluid dawn
spice veldt
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can't really go wrong

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run whatever seems good nuff to you

untold niche
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i'll test peril brekapoints with the smite --> assail tmr

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i hope its at least decent

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surge*

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surge --> assail

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at max stacks of ws
would this be able to proc?

dim parrot
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siblings how's it going?

fluid dawn
open ridge
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loading into auric damnation with a test build and 3 bots

static needle
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Buy for the memes? xd

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for blaze?

vocal cliff
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Yeah it'll be funny do it

dim parrot
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if u have enough currency, do it

cold elm
static needle
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no no i have better ones

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but buy just for blessing?

dim parrot
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yes

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if u have enough anyway

spice veldt
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just to have it in your book I suppose

vocal cliff
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Perfect for reading

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If you're a fucking NERD

spice veldt
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french

dim parrot
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toast

vocal cliff
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Latino

spice veldt
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shut up

dim parrot
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and dance

vocal cliff
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Frenchphobia

dim parrot
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olivephobia

vocal cliff
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Deserved because olives suck tbh

spice veldt
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:(

onyx sleet
dim parrot
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haha no

silent coral
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anyone bought the chem dog psyker set? wondering if the helm changes your voice

dim parrot
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just to fuck with u

viral flare
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or because they dont play psyker and dont know what a blue marked enemy means

dim parrot
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true

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especially ogryns (bless them tho)

spice veldt
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we'll just have to see how it's economy looks like when it functions properly

onyx sleet
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duh

viral flare
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lmao

dim parrot
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would not be annoying at all lmao

spice veldt
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it's impressive how long DD hasn't been working properly

viral flare
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what's not working about it

onyx sleet
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i keep reading DD as detonate dead

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i have played to much POE

spice veldt
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you occasionally don't get stacks from killing marked enemies

dim parrot
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dinosaur duck

onyx sleet
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i think they should buff wildfire

spice veldt
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there was a video posted of somebody not getting any DD stacks for a few minutes

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despite killing marked targets

viral flare
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they should buff every gun i use

zenith vigil
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this gud? šŸ˜„

dim parrot
vocal cliff
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Low penetration is gonna hurt

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And the groaners and bad blessings won't help it

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So at best you'll be getting a 3/4 with bad penetration

stuck sinew
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Let's be real it's still gonna one shot 90% of enemies

zenith vigil
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how about the blessings/perks?

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what should I get?

stuck sinew
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Surgical

hazy wagon
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@cold elm
@cold elm_tv
50 minutes ago
Ok. Ok. I’m sold. I’ll put down my staff and pick up a columnus. Damn.

I see where all of your opinions came from lmao

cold elm
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Not quite lol

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Most of this stuff I knew already

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However I was not aware of the columnus and how strong it was

plush oak
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guys i think we need more psykers

cold elm
zenith vigil
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imagine all 4 running gun

cold elm
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I personally don’t usually run guns with psyker and has no idea how strong they were

zenith vigil
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also don't know, I just heard that they goes through ammo like ogryn chew down ration KEKW_ogryn

hazy wagon
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why is the dueling sword so meta? what makes it so much better?

plush oak
dim parrot
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horde clear isn't the best tho

long wharf
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big damage makes the brain happy juice

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so you have other ways to deal with the horde

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like assail, trauma, purge, void

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you have options for what weapons you prefer

near drift
hazy wagon
long wharf
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successful builds will have different bases covered by their weapons

cold elm
long wharf
plush oak
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shield gaming

hazy wagon
long wharf
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that's it?

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oh, wrong person

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I prefer to pair Illisi with surge staff

dim parrot
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same tbh

hazy wagon
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on a vid i watched it said to run the Ds or the Deimos but i should run the illisi?

dim parrot
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has very good horde clear

long wharf
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dueling sword and deimos are both single target weapons

near drift
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Deimos and DS are for armor/elite takedowns, ilissi is for horde slaying

long wharf
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Illisi is the horde clearing melee weapon for psykers

hazy wagon
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oh ok ok

long wharf
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it's objectively the best choice for horde clearing

cold elm
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Illisi my beloved

long wharf
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he meant Illisi

zenith vigil
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using voidstrike force staff, where should I aim the orb at? the ground or directly at enemy torso?

spice veldt
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directly at enemies

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the explosion deals very minimal damage

zenith vigil
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got it, thanks thumbsup_ogryn

plush oak
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what do u guys think about my mk4 dueling sword?

vocal cliff
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Some tho it may be tricky

wintry patrol
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stunlocking bosses with voidstrike is always good times tho

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just let vets know beforehand so they don't choke on the grenade throws

long wharf
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like if you asked Thor what a sword looked like

plush oak
long wharf
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problem is you can see the clipping of the staff part into the dueling sword handle

plush oak
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made one with the hammer

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yeah

plush oak
cold elm
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Voidstrike staff is the only staff that’s charged attack can hit weakpoints and crit at the same time

cold elm
unkempt hare
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pretty good

cold elm
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Can’t hit max warpfire charges with that one

vocal cliff
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It'll still work, just won't be as efficient as higher numbers

cold elm
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Biggest sad

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Other than that tho it’s beautiful

unkempt hare
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best staff i have by power

cold elm
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(except for that ranged crit chance. Ouch)

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Very good overall

unkempt hare
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yeah perks are kinda shit

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blessings are great perks less so

cold elm
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That will be a decent workhorse until you are able to roll a perfect one

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If you build into crit chance that will be a very nice staff indeed

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Hope you don’t run into crushers tho

unkempt hare
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rn im still trying to fill out my sticker book for psyker

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thats why playing stupid is for

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what*

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force sword charge

cold elm
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Fair

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Although

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If you can get rending on your force sword your soulblaze stacks will go right through carapace armor

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Is quite nice.

unkempt hare
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i have uncanny 3

cold elm
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Then you have crushers covered.

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Very nice staff indeed

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Purge staff is underrated imo.

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It’s the best control weapon in the game

unkempt hare
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and heres the sword

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not the greatest but its the best ive got

cold elm
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It’ll do for now

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But I would work on getting a replacement asap

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That 349 is painful

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Block and sprint eff is not too bad however

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Especially block depending if you have the block peril perk or not

misty cypress
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sounds usable/good to me? more I frames is always good

spice veldt
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it does stuff but it's also against melee specifically and the dodge window is pretty long anyways

stuck sinew
unkempt hare
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got my replacement

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burned 50k creds but thats ok

open ridge
unkempt hare
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DUDE!

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now its just grinding plasteel

stuck sinew
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rip first target

unkempt hare
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Yeah but look it everything else

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I'm hoping I can get a 4/4 with rending or brittleness

cold elm
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Definitely worth it

cold elm
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Finesse is what you’re looking for anyway

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Although that first target is going to bite you when it comes to charged attacks

tawny jetty
cold elm
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It’s not really the greatest. But it’s a decent middle ground between the illisi and deimos

unkempt hare
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Which is better then?

cold elm
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Depends on personal preference

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Deimos is the best for single target

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Illisi is the best for horde clearing

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Obscurus is decent at both

stuck sinew
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Deimos horde clear honestly isn't even bad, I'd mark it as the best all rounder

cold elm
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True

spice veldt
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obscurus is more of a worst deimos than any middle ground

cold elm
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I prefer the illisi due to its special attack doesn’t make me stick to enemies

stuck sinew
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I feel like most of the time I don't even use it because I can just get more attacks in instead

tawny jetty
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The Deimos pokes are baller though. L1 into H2

cold elm
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Honestly if you’re going for single target drop the force swords altogether and grab a dueling sword

zenith vigil
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can this get saved? 😦

spice veldt
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though illisi special spam is the best if you can afford the peril and space and there's a decent amount of density

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it just feels braindead but it is what it is

cold elm
zenith vigil
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what to replace? šŸ˜„

cold elm
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Put on ripost or uncanny strike

zenith vigil
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and how about perks

cold elm
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Preferably uncanny

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Perks are actually pretty decent

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That’s actually a pretty decent sword overall

zenith vigil
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thanks

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no uncanny in store yet 😦

static needle
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Is blazing illisi ever worth running compared to other options for melee?

zenith vigil
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is it maxed at 4 as usual?

cold elm
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I would raise slaughterer to t4

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T4 slaughter on illisi can 1shot pox walkers when fully charged up

stuck sinew
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blaze is pretty horrible

cold elm
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Don’t use blaze. The fire damage isn’t worth it

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Just use light attack

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Does the job better anyway

stuck sinew
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Things will be dead long before the DoT does anything to help

cold elm
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It’s like 20 damage per second. Which is basically nothing

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Seeing as pox walkers have 300 hp

plush oak
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banger trauma staff

cold elm
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On damnation

spice veldt
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375

stuck sinew
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Finally, pole weapons

cold elm
static needle
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what yall run with blaze trauma?

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I feel like BB without addon talents is best choice for blitz since trauma can do everything except for rlly long range

stuck sinew
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primary fire

static needle
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already using it for snipers

stuck sinew
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I've a got a Nexus/Surge Trauma just for the memes

static needle
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This is my setup

static needle
stuck sinew
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But... this is the first time I've mentioned it

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It's kinda fun though

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the suppression on primary is nuts

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And yes I could just use a voidstrike (and do) but sometimes trauma stagger is nice

cold elm
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I do not like the voidstrike staff

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It just feels gross to use

zenith vigil
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on force sword, what's max uncanny level?

cold elm
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3

zenith vigil
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thx

cold elm
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Any higher just gives you an damage increase

zenith vigil
#

why so many of them stay at 3 šŸ¤”

static needle
stuck sinew
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Tbf you also get to max effect faster at max level

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Or maybe not max

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but more

static needle
cold elm
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Not bad

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I would get rid of venting shriek tho

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Shield is vastly more useful

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And scryers gaze is just stupid damage

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Especially on trauma staff

zenith vigil
#

will this sword become gud if I put slaughter and uncanny on it?

static needle
cold elm
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Bro venting shriek is literally just training wheel for people who don’t know how to control peril

zinc phoenix
# static needle This is my setup

this is pretty much correct for blaze trauma. i dont love in fire reborn and go psychic vampire but otherwise you should have pretty good success with this build

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i also personally like to go empathic evasion

static needle
cold elm
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Oh hold up. Ur running blaze trauma

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I retract my statement

static needle
#

hahahahahah

cold elm
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I missed the blaze part

static needle
#

word

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but still wtf

static needle
#

scriers only kinda works on voidstrike iirc

cold elm
#

It is usable on trauma due to the enemy density you expect to fight with it

static needle
zenith vigil
#

is it easy to crit with illisi blaze force sword?

static needle
cold elm
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Yes

static needle
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u tryna proc something?

cold elm
#

Very much so

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Illisi is probably the best sword to stack crits with

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As it has a wide sweeping horizontal attack pattern

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Can hit multiple heads at once

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And multiple enemies

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At once

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Not to mention the force blast is a guarenteed weak point hit

zinc phoenix
zenith vigil
zinc phoenix
#

its a little more defensive but i prefer that

zenith vigil
static needle
zinc phoenix
#

i personally go deflector deimos with blaze trauma

spice veldt
#

the +crit dmg perk is poopoo

zenith vigil
#

what if I put shred on it for extra crit chance? šŸ˜‚

static needle
#

oh wait i see

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you didnt bother changing weapons from default

zinc phoenix
stuck sinew
#

I would rather have sprint efficiency than +crit/+weak spot they're that doodoo

cold elm
#

My personal preference is slaughter and precognition but uncanny is a good choice too

hearty oak
#

I am now a Deimos sword believer

cold elm
#

Precog because I spam dodge when I’m fighting hordes

zinc phoenix
#

that said i think smite surge with shriek is a lot easier to run in t5 maels

static needle
#

also wtf no warp rider? heresy

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No i mean

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perfect timing

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not warp rider

static needle
#

perfect timing is basically constant 15% more damage if you use it right

zinc phoenix
#

and perfect timing is good, but id rather not give up the ability to flex up to 6 warp charge or just ignore gunners

static needle
ornate hamlet
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The idiocy I see on Reddit

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You can literally stroke your sword a few times and shout at the enemies in the psykhanium to check for damage

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Some people just can't be assed to do even that

static needle
hearty oak
#

Does soulblaze kills count as warp kills?

zinc phoenix
queen fog
hearty oak
queen fog
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Soulblaze is a type of warp damage loregryn

static needle
#

and if you have a vet who knows remotely what they are doing

static needle
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the gunners will be dead

static needle
zinc phoenix
static needle
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and you dont have assail

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ewww wtf

zinc phoenix
#

if im goin up against gunners im gonna be left clicking a lot

static needle
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left click spam restricts your movement like a bish, assail doesnt

zinc phoenix
#

yes

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but sometimes it comes in clutch

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šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø everything is tradeoffs

static needle
zinc phoenix
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well, you are welcome to your opinion

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its a free internet

plush oak
#

cursed purgatus?

static needle
static needle
plush oak
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i tried to make it look kinda like a flamer

zenith vigil
zenith vigil
#

I really hope they give us some two handed long weapon, like the mauler's weapon, or chain glaive

static needle
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and at that point, just use BB

spice veldt
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gib 2h force sword

static needle
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anyway

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is blaze sword ever worth running or is it just a meme?

spice veldt
#

the obscurus?

static needle
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no

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using the blaze blessing

spice veldt
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meme p much

static needle
#

ah

spice veldt
#

the nice thing about most soulblaze application methods is that it spreads it in a wide area

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blazing spirit on force swords spreads it quite minimally and you're just going to outright kill things with the direct damage

static needle
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but like... is it still a meme even if u use in fire reborn?

spice veldt
#

prolly, cuz psychic vampire exists and that benefits from ally coherency kills

static needle
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Hmm but like i kill trash mobs all the time with vent

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1 vent = at least 2 charges

spice veldt
#

whatever the math works out to # of proportion of enemies that die with soulblaze and whatnot

static needle
#

no but like, if a horde of 20 is running to me and I soulblaze vent Im gonna get at least 2 charges if im not super unlucky

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so that actually incentivizes that you use the ability even when u have charges

ornate hamlet
#

But on the other hand, vampire works without your input

static needle
#

but on the third hand, getting it pretty much on demand is better, and faster?

lunar hollow
#

on the fourth hand, i think we've mutated

plucky flax
#

I use vampire even on soulblaze builds.

static needle
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why

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you are doing the horde killing

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with purgatus especially

plucky flax
#

It's more consistent for me.

long wharf
#

vampire isn't a good use of a talent point

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especially with purge

static needle
#

heres an example of how good it is

plucky flax
#

Then how to get warp charges in melee?

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All my warp charges build with soulblaze (surge, purg, blaze trauma) I use vampire. 4% any kills is more beneficial than 10% from only soulblaze kills for me.

static needle
#

maybe i guess

static needle
red jacinth
near drift
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Whats the burn value I'm looking for on purg staff? I remember it was 70 something

near drift
#

cool thank ya

long wharf
static needle
long wharf
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nope

static needle
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what u smokin

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u can

static needle
long wharf
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oh, you meant Vampire the node

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not Essence Harvest

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for some reason I always get those two mixed up

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for purge, there's basically no reason to not go with In Fire Reborn

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for everything else, you go Psychic Vampire

static needle
long wharf
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yes

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because you aren't applying soulblaze freely with trauma, only on crits

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you're going to be better off with Psychic Vampire

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blaze trauma can be fun, but it's not the most optimal way to play with soulblaze

plucky flax
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It's super trash whatthefuck_heresy

long wharf
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but fun

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but also yes, nowhere near as good as rending trauma

plucky flax
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Really really bad

long wharf
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all those damage numbers and nothing dying

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and you backpedaled like half the map

ornate hamlet
#

this is a demonstration of what lacerate does

plucky flax
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Tru pls buff

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I don't ever get 1 Mil damage every time I play scab melee only

ornate hamlet
#

just good fundementals to know how to kite

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and the build features how incredilby safe ( and broken ) trauma use is when you're decent at it

long wharf
#

yes, but having to do that much kiting means you're either out of position, unable to deal with the enemy in a timely fashion, or your team is absolute garbage

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not saying anything about how trauma was used in the video

ornate hamlet
#

But I'm thinking of it in the perspective of a solo player who doesn't rely on his team lol

long wharf
#

basically, blaze trauma is only effective at killing the horde with soulblaze

ornate hamlet
#

It's basically

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just this meme

ornate hamlet
plucky flax
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Eh I was playing solo

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So yeah obviously there was no team xd

long wharf
#

and its effectiveness at doing that is much less than purge

ornate hamlet
next zephyr
ornate hamlet
#

I mean
tbf purge downside is that it's purge

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and Purge doesn't "do anything" vs hordes like that

long wharf
#

yeah, purge doesn't feel good to use, to me

plucky flax
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Purga against crushers and bulwarks xd

radiant frigate
#

purgatus downside is that it is also dead boring

ornate hamlet
#

that too

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I used to use it

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but because I was using it aggressively

radiant frigate
#

but then again, so is most staff spam

ornate hamlet
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to run up to stuff

long wharf
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there's nothing "beefy" or visceral with the purge staff

ornate hamlet
#

and then I was like

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"If I'm going to use a staff to be offensive"

long wharf
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flamer has some great sound design

ornate hamlet
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"Might as well use Trauma because at least I can solo everthing with it"

plucky flax
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I would like to see anyone play solo without kiting.

long wharf
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purge is just a hose spilling out feathers

plucky flax
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Must be god

ornate hamlet
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The only way you survive hordes like that is by looping

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that or you speedrun with stealth

long wharf
#

Darktide really wasn't meant to be played solo

ornate hamlet
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so you can bypass choke points

ornate hamlet
long wharf
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maybe one day we'll get class-based bots, but I wouldn't hold my breath

plucky flax
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Yet blaze trauma is a very good clutch tool

ornate hamlet
#

even if we get class based bots

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it'll still suck

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vt2 bots were just tanks

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and there's honestly something hilarious to me

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about 2 guys using crackhead weapons to beat a map that people fail to

long wharf
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trauma is best at keeping things on the ground, for sure

ornate hamlet
#

it's probably the best "solo" ranged tbh

long wharf
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it's definitely the safest, I'd say

ornate hamlet
#

then again
Darktide is just "boring" if you play it with the intention of yrying to solo/duo unfortunately

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because the entire game becomes a puzzle of loop kiting

long wharf
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original surge staff would be my pick

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but since that's no longer an option...

ornate hamlet
#

but some people like that ( like me ) so I think that's still fine

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don't have to like niche gameplay options
It's just for tryhards

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or for people who wanna appear like an unwashed sweatlord who's spent 2000 hours in a tide game

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( also me )

plucky flax
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I only have 1.7k pogryn

ornate hamlet
#

i have like 700+ combined off vt2 and darktide

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but I spent 200+ hours on vt2 learning how to solo

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so I'm incredibly biased in how I enjoy it nowadays lol

plucky flax
#

I hope blaze trauma gets buff. Direct buff to me PraygeA

ornate hamlet
#

I hope they give me a new staff

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give me wigglemancer vt2 beam staff

plucky flax
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So yes keep spreading the words. Trauma bad praisethesun

ornate hamlet
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I wanna hordeclear like a boss

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and headshot with left click cancels

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😭 beam staff my beloved

hollow halo
ornate hamlet
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:prayge:

stone canyon
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So i have 6/7 of tier 3 blessings, missing just the only one i need, Blazing

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Gotten some of em like 10 times by now

plucky flax
#

Why craft it. Its so bad

stone canyon
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I guess i had too favourable opinion about the crafting RNG

ornate hamlet
#

Me trying to get a knife blessing

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I get the same Lacerate 3's I keep getting over and over

plucky flax
#

Just play the super good rending trauma whatthefuck_heresy

stone canyon
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Knife i had opposite luck, decided i wanna try it, made couple knives and had instantly IV uncanny&precog

harsh urchin
#

The problem is that your expectations are prob unrealistic

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And your weighing of importance is also wrong

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Perks and blessings have different priority on different weapons

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there are weapons which weigh PERKS > blessings, weapons which weigh 1 blessing > perks > 2 blessing, and weapons that weigh 2 blessing > perks

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it's pretty reasonable to get a 3-line weapon, whereas a 4 liner weapon is just fully rng

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knife for example is one where the 2nd blessing doesn't matter that much

upper sun
#

im looking at the zealot tree

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christ

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this shit is broken

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why dont we get any of that

harsh urchin
#

so you hunt for uncanny + 2 perks for the first knife you make

upper sun
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90% of our tree is +1% chance to do damage and +2% chance to hit a boss

harsh urchin
#

you're prob crazy then lol

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nodes like PC

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or KD

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or EE

dawn spoke
#

yea psyker tree has weirdly powerful small nodes

harsh urchin
#

or one with the warp

upper sun
#

compare any single perk to loner

harsh urchin
#

are absolutely disgusting 1 pointers

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well

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loner is trash

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so even the shitty perks beat it LMAO

upper sun
#

wounds

harsh urchin
#

most non-shit players run 2 wounds in aurics

upper sun
#

nah its just flat out better just because pysker is more fun doesnt mean it has better talents

harsh urchin
#

you only need wounds if you're dogshit player or playing the wound build

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idk this is gonna go same way as the smite discussion

upper sun
#

wound build is fire

harsh urchin
#

you're so convinced that you're right that you're not listening to anything else anybody says lol

spice veldt
#

why is loner the one talent that you pick from zealot's tree as the comparison

harsh urchin
#

i shall stop speaking

spice veldt
#

out of all the good talents on zealot's tree

upper sun
#

what is this reddit?

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im talking to you not the other guy who was very dismissive

stuck sinew
#

Zealot casually being stun immune and having like 5 damage reductions

upper sun
spice veldt
upper sun
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why did they add a stealth element in a game where you are insentivied to stick together

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the basic ability is just a sworse version of the ogryn ability

red jacinth
#

would trying to grab peril quel on kill be better than smth else?

spice veldt
#

i suppose there's only so many permutations for ults and they're bringing ideas from vt2

red jacinth
#

Using purgatus

spice veldt
#

you're incentivized to stick together but you can also do that with stealth ults

dawn spoke
spice veldt
#

the game has team components and that's that

plush oak
dawn spoke
upper sun
untold spindle
#

peril block is such a crutch, i can't live without it

untold spindle
plucky flax
untold spindle
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loner is 'orrible

steep fractal
#

I wouldnt necessarily call it a crutch when its on the class with no grenades and half the stamina of everyone else

untold spindle
#

curse clear or 15% toughness dr are way better imo

plucky flax
#

Stealth loner martyrdom goated zealot build

untold spindle
#

peril block just feels way too good

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free revives

harsh urchin
plucky flax
flint plover
plucky flax
#

I go back to my corner.

hearty oak
#

WIldfire is great on blazing trauma

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And only blazing trauma

flint plover
#

jk, i love bleed

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still haven't tried the legendary double bleed tho

plucky flax
#

It'd change your life.

flint plover
#

they said the same thing about heroin

long wharf
#

I mean, they weren't wrong

#

the first taste is free for a reason

patent wing
#

2k plasteel wasted and still no blazing fire 4, but thank hadron for the 3x brittle i already have

prime elk
#

At least you didn’t get terrifying barrage four times like I did

#

After 5k plasteel

patent wing
#

xd

prime elk
#

I gave up

tawny jetty
#

I'd be big mad

prime elk
#

And then milk gave me blazing spirit a week later

tawny jetty
#

Is it like getting smackdown 4 on all your knives, like I get?

patent wing
#

blazing spirit 4 is one of the few blessings that are worth to grind for 4

flint plover
prime elk
#

Was there a t4 ? I thought it only went up to three on trauma

patent wing
flint plover
#

Trauma staff does not have a t4 blazing spirit

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it only goes up to t3

patent wing
#

ah damn

prime elk
#

Yah only up to t3

flint plover
#

its okay, i did the same fucking thing a few weeks ago..

patent wing
#

i was thinkin about the sword

flint plover
#

the sword does have a t4, which is what confused me

patent wing
#

yeah same

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the maximum stacks for staff are still 12?

flint plover
#

for soulblaze in general I think you can get up to 15 from staff + 6 from venting shriek

spice veldt
#

staff blazing spirit has a cap of 6

patent wing
#

god beware that one staff would be good at killing elites AND have some boss dmg

flint plover
#

wait, really

prime elk
patent wing
#

i wait for the day theres a plasma gun alike staff

flint plover
#

so if I crit three times all I'm doing is refreshing the soulblaze at 6 stacks

spice veldt
#

yup

flint plover
#

ffs

spice veldt
#

i want a proper precision single-target staff that matches the DPS of guns

flint plover
#

quell cancel, i guess

spice veldt
#

and then I will cream from using it with buffs up to delete single targets

#

still not particularly reaching the DPS of guns

flint plover
#

yeah..

spice veldt
#

and especially not against unyielding, esp with the 50% unyielding ADM that bolts have for no damn reason

strong gulch
#

Give up warp gun

spice veldt
#

warp glock

strong gulch
#

fartshark

spice veldt
#

blam blam blam

strong gulch
#

cough it up

patent wing
#

can somebody explain me why crushers wont go down if hit with fully charged trauma (near the center)

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happens very often for me

spice veldt
#

they get a period of stagger immunity on being staggered

patent wing
spice veldt
#

they in particular have a long period of stagger immunity

#

i think reapers and bulwarks have it as well?

#

i forgor

#

i know that reapers have an extended period of suppression immunity but i'm not sure about stagger

patent wing
#

when do they have that?

spice veldt
#

crushers get it after you stagger them

#

reapers get a period of suppression immunity after being suppressed for some time

#

i didn't do particularly extensive testing on reapers

patent wing
#

so if a light stagger hits and they dont fall down, the fully charged one doesnt do shit?

#

that would make sense

#

at least to my exp

spice veldt
#

I recall medium stagger triggering their stagger immunity nowadays I think?

#

it didn't used to but i am 70% sure it does nowadays

patent wing
#

it explains the behaviour extremely well

#

trauma 2 bulwarks, only 1 goes down

spice veldt
#

yeah and it catches you off guard quite well

patent wing
#

charge a ssecond shot, nothing happens

#

ye

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it kinda ruins the trauma staff even more

#

i hate that its the best staff

spice veldt
#

it's nice so that you can't chain stagger them

#

at least in this respect, it has a limitation like this compared to smite

#

i hate stun/stagger CC so I personally appreciate things like this

patent wing
#

doesnt explain the plasma gun oneshotting 3 bulwarks with a single shot

flint plover
#

us psykers just need to get good, im afraid

patent wing
#

i mean ok let them stand up, but not going down on a fully charged trauma just bc they got hit with the edge before?

harsh urchin
#

it's supposed to be a super powerful gun that's limited by heat and ammo

#

I believe it has a hidden 30-40% negative modifier for ammo pickups if I am correct, so it's theoretically supposed to struggle for ammo

#

but because vet ammo aura exists, this downside is completely negated

#

similarily, your damage output is supposed to be limited heavily by heat mechanics

spice veldt
#

it's just that ammo pickups/survivalist are calculated based on your reserve ammo, so plasma is particularly affected since it has a 50/50 split of its ammo in the mag/reserve

harsh urchin
#

but the heat mechanics dont do anything rn cuz each shot is like 15 heat or so and there's not a ton of management you need to do

#

so ultimately what happens is that none of the designed downsides are relevant

harsh urchin
#

but yeah survivalist completely invalidates the ammo limitation of the weapon

spice veldt
#

the (lack of) resource management in this game makes me so sad

harsh urchin
#

like the modifier for "no ammo pickups"

#

"histg" would also choke your resources a lot more

#

and it'd be more fun IMO

patent wing
#

what do you think about voidstrike with warp flurry + transfer peril?
i have a very good with warp nexus + surge but its to slow for my taste

harsh urchin
#

but as of right now i think it's easier to run out of ammo in malice than it is in auric histg lmao

#

flurry transfer is fine

#

it just won't be as strong as surge

#

you don't have to charge up the staff all the way fyi

#

you can do quarter and half charges depending on what you're fighting

#

most trash will die in a quarter charge

patent wing
#

whats the breakpoints for bringing down ogryns? 3/4?

harsh urchin
#

depends on surge proc

#

but yeah just try it out in meat grinder

#

charging all the way to kill trash is super overkill

patent wing
#

idk i dont like the crit mechanics because then i have to edge peril

#

and that further delays the next shot

harsh urchin
#

it shouldn't lol

#

you can watch a few videos on how to quell cancel to edge peril

steady ocean
#

Anyone know if the Gnosis Pattern Rebreather with Psykana Collar adds the heavy robotic voice filter?

ornate hamlet
#

Supposed to, but we know Fatshark

#

I think that might actually be the one where some of the lines come out unfiltered

steady ocean
#

I thought the lines from all voice-filter cosmetics had an issue with cooldowns not being filtered. Maybe that's just in addition to what your refering to.

long wharf
#

The hair sticks out the back, too

vocal cliff
#

Only a gas filter voice

#

The helmet that did have the robot voice is gone

primal plume
#

Siblings, is it still heresy if I accept Tzeenchs gifts if its for the benefit of the Imperium? Asking for a friend

vocal cliff
#

Probably not

#

Should be fiiine

ornate hamlet
#

Ayo imagine if Fatshark added "voice modulation" on the description of voice modulation cosmetics

steady ocean
radiant frigate
#

not too fond of voice modulation

idle aurora
steady ocean
#

these two I mean

idle aurora
vocal cliff
idle aurora
untold niche
#

Or at least my dumb ass didn't notice it

upper sun
#

T MINUS 10 MINUTES TO MELK'S NEW STALK

#

lets see what slop we get today any bets?

long wharf
#

Sour Milk's offerings of cheese

upper sun
#

i betting on a godrolled knife with t2 blessings

marble crater
#

Hoping for some nice stuff for my fresh lvl 30 ogryn

upper sun
marble crater
#

My Beloved told me I will

long wharf
#

oh sonny boy, you've been lied to

upper sun
#

well see who speaks true

marble crater
long wharf
upper sun
#

says the guy listening to chaos whispers

#

(its me i'm also that guy)

marble crater
#

It's not chaos, it's big E, surely KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
#

we need an emoji that's the hamburglar but with inquisition symbols on his hat

#

so we can have inquisitors going "robble robble"

upper sun
marble crater
#

Seems like your voices were right

long wharf
#

and survey says

upper sun
#

is shred 4 any good?

long wharf
#

yes

#

you want to grab any t4 blessing on a weapon type you care about

#

that's the best use of Milkies

upper sun
#

yeah prolly im thinking of trying out duelling swords

long wharf
#

the ds4 is what you want

upper sun
#

ye i heard

#

should leave me with 3.5k if anyhing good comes up in the weekend

rapid bear
#

Have they fixed Transfer Peril on the Equinox MK IV Voidstrike Force Staff so that it works on the railgun secondary?

#

Or is it still all about Warp Flurry + Warp Nexus?