so with disrupt destiny, is there a way to change who's targeted besides actually killing them? or am i just shit out of luck
#psyker-class
balmy siren
haughty star
so with disrupt destiny, is there a way to change who's targeted besides actuall...
Get a revolver and get used to quick swapping
If you're going for melee scriers build that is
balmy siren
nah im going gun psyker
wind spruce
Not without heaps of buffs
long wharf
Not without heaps of buffs
incorrect
with 0 buffs, at 0 peril, my ds4 can one-shot a charging mutant on damnation
it has +maniac on it
ignore the weapon customization mod
radiant frigate
that is a heckin' falchion
long wharf
what makes the deimos hit harder is the crit multiplier on fswords is much higher than all other melee weapons
wind spruce
It literally cannot.
long wharf
that is a heckin' falchion
yes, yes it is
dawn spoke
I'm not convinced tbh
haughty star
I love my shield deimos for my smite surge psyker lol. I ran as a meme but it's hilarious to just square up to plague ogryn or chaos spawn and just whack him between swing phases lol
long wharf
stability affects how many shots are on-target
it's effective DPS
a missed shot is 0 dps
dawn spoke
I'm barely noticing a difference between 47 and 80 stability on the columnus
haughty star
I'm barely noticing a difference between 47 and 80 stability on the columnus
Yeah I tested this to a degree and either way the Columnus is by no means a long range gun lol
dawn spoke
yea, if it was a revolver that'd be another story
wind spruce
Cant one shot mutie even with specialist damage
https://outplayed.tv/media/wL1d8Z
@long wharf they buffed mutie health
wind spruce
Lmao
strange fox
love the look of it
dawn spoke
Cant one shot mutie even with specialist damage
https://outplayed.tv/media/wL1d8...
what if you instantly follow up with the special
dawn spoke
unlucky
wind spruce
There's a good reason I have specialist damage on it
dawn spoke
in practice you'll usually have buffs, at the very least warp rider
wind spruce
So I can kill muties with one hit
With buffs
It's specifically for my trauma builds
wanton lagoon
is it a strat to use psyker for lights out cuz they can make light
radiant frigate
you could also use a gun with a flashlight
midnight jolt
is it a strat to use psyker for lights out cuz they can make light
spam LMB purgatus in dark places, is like a moving flare
wanton lagoon
what blix with purg staff
before i had a surge staff with smite /illis force sword
i made this, not the best but its good enought o use
assail?
dawn spoke
brain burst or assail
feral verge
i use bb with purga
lyric burrow
bb
wanton lagoon
when to use bb?
feral verge
distant enemies
lyric burrow
far off specials
dawn spoke
when there's something out of fire range that you need to kill right now
wanton lagoon
is it same build?
dawn spoke
what build?
wanton lagoon
purg staff with bb and illis?
dawn spoke
you'll want a duelling sword or deimos for purg
wanton lagoon
bb, shriek, sideways E, and then zig zag left?
wanton lagoon
you'll want a duelling sword or deimos for purg
good to know, thats a wip
wanton lagoon
bb, shriek, sideways E, and then zig zag left?
is this the build tho
dawn spoke
yeah that sounds right
wanton lagoon
thx
dawn spoke
by zigzag left you mean like this, right?
wanton lagoon
yes
dawn spoke
yea you got it
dawn spoke
you don't really want peril reduction for purg, it doesn't generate much peril on its own
dawn spoke
perfect timing yes
wanton lagoon
how to play? lleft click stagger right click damage?
dawn spoke
yup that's the idea
you'll want to use venting shriek at >85 peril for damage especially
if you scream at shooters like that, they'll get enough soulblaze that they'll die from it, even on damnation
long wharf
Cant one shot mutie even with specialist damage
https://outplayed.tv/media/wL1d8...
strange, because it's very rare that I don't one-shot mutants
very, very rare
but that could easily just be warp rider letting me hit that breakpoint
dawn spoke
with warp rider my ds4 (which is not perfect!) is still just barely under one-shot damage
but it's also my experience that I almost always oneshot muties if I hit the head in an actual match
restive slate
Headshots?
dawn spoke
yeah
restive slate
The other Duelling Swords need to be buffed slightly
dawn spoke
and every autogun that isn't the columnus pls
restive slate
DS 5 maybe with faster heavies, DS 2 with more cleave maybe
I still use Agri and Graia IAG but yea Columnus dmg is nuts
wind spruce
but that could easily just be warp rider letting me hit that breakpoint
With specialist damage on my sword I still need 4 warp charges and 35% peril to oneshot the mutant
iirc just warp rider won't get you there
prime elk
I’m going to be surprised and not surprised if CIAG doesn’t get nerfed next patch
It’s a BIT overtuned right now
orchid shadow
Ciag?
wanton lagoon
do you have to quell cancel with pug staff lmb?
queen fog
i havent had to and its been burning people alive just fine 
long wharf
I mostly don't play with warp charges
on my assail+EP+void build, I still one-shot mutants on damnation basically every time
sharp flint
Smite isn't bad it's a powerful tool. Smite gets better at higher ranks.
long wharf
smite, when used properly, is great
smite, when used most often, is absolutely terrible
tawny pebble
yep
CC is great
but death is the best CC
so not doing that when it's manageable is nonsensical
balmy siren
smite on hunting grounds is 
tawny pebble
yeah, stopping a rabid pack of hounds can be clutch, especially if they're dispatched mid horde or boss
midnight jolt
yeah, stopping a rabid pack of hounds can be clutch, especially if they're dispa...
the wall is very good at that
restive slate
You smite enemies to lock them down, I smite enemies to throw them off a ledge.
We are not the same.
Lol
tawny pebble
You smite enemies to lock them down, I smite enemies to throw them off a ledge.
...
the push is very nice
tawny pebble
the wall is very good at that
i've rediscovered my love for wall
i played it a lot in the beginning, got indoctrinated into bubble cult, and have come around again
restive slate
I need to implement shield into my psyker builds, not sure which
midnight jolt
The bubble is just too good because of toughness shield, the wall needs a bit of a buff IMHO
tawny pebble
wall x2 shield is great for brain burst quickcasting on the fly
sharp flint
Killing things isn't possible when a horde is overwhelming you.
wind spruce
on my assail+EP+void build, I still one-shot mutants on damnation basically ever...
Could be team buffs or crits
midnight jolt
I will get back to it once I do the warp penance, that penance has me separated from my love, the wall
haughty star
gee milk man
restive slate
What if... 3 shield walls?
tawny pebble
Killing things isn't possible when a horde is overwhelming you.
well, yes, which is why i said "when manageable"
sharp flint
It makes hordes more manageable so you can kill actual dangerous targets.
wanton lagoon
can you stun maulers with purg staff
midnight jolt
the tactical axe push + after attack one shots infected and unarmored enemies, I love it
sharp flint
Yes but can you stun several maulers chasing you?
tawny pebble
can you stun maulers with purg staff
it take a couple puffs in my experience
sharp flint
If things didn't have niches darktide would be pretty damn boring.
wanton lagoon
so you can ok
tawny pebble
yes, but whether the 3 musketeers will all get stunned is another story
since they seem to like traveling in packs
sharp flint
If all blitzes served similar purpose what would be the point.
If you don't use the correct build for the modifier. It's kinda your fault.
tawny pebble
i'm sorry who is this aimed at
midnight jolt
randoms at night, Zealot with knife, 2 vets and me 😦
sharp flint
Comboing this with a dueling sword is a beautiful mix.
I like using cc on pox bursters.
It makes them so manageable.
And the range of smite against them makes them so harmless.
Pox bursters are pretty bad to deal with. I hate them.
My teams in even auric don't know how to handle them.
tawny pebble
Eh. I despise getting stealth bursted so much it comes all the way back around to absurd laughter.
sharp flint
It's pretty bad especially in auric.
tawny pebble
Love when they don't tick.
sharp flint
But the thing that makes smite so awful to use is bosses.
I just have to run for my life.
prime elk
Love when they don't tick.
Shitty sounds is what convinced me to use the spidey sense mod
sharp flint
At least with shield you can make bosses easier to deal with.
Honestly using the fire is more efficient
tawny pebble
But the thing that makes smite so awful to use is bosses.
Can you elaborate here?
sharp flint
Like fighting a plague ogryn.
tawny pebble
You were just saying before how staff/melee can compensate for choice of blitz - why is having smite suddenly a run scenario?
cold ivy
that's what the other weapons are for
sharp flint
It does but the staff I use right now. I cannot do auric.
cold ivy
what- what staff are you using
tawny pebble
Huh. Now that I think on it.
sharp flint
I'm upgrading the explosive one.
tawny pebble
Which staff is "worst" for bosses? Is there even one?
sharp flint
Probably the electricity one.
sharp flint
Surge is good but it suffers like smite does.
tawny pebble
...Can Trauma weakspot hit?
sharp flint
No but the explosive is good.
And does a lot of damage.
Surge is mostly cc.
And there is the last staff that lights people ablaze.
I don't think I have seen anyone use that one.
tawny pebble
I run Purgatus, myself. Though I'm not on aurics yet.
dawn spoke
purg is the best staff for bosses, but a columnus will do better than any staff
tawny pebble
Just Damnation.
sharp flint
Aurics with cc aren't useful without a shield ogryn.
tawny pebble
purg is the best staff for bosses, but a columnus will do better than any staff
Space wizard cast bullet
prime elk
purg is the best staff for bosses, but a columnus will do better than any staff
Ehhhhhhhhhh is it tho
Purg that is
sharp flint
Shield ogryns do your cc better then you.
dawn spoke
absolutely
sharp flint
It's true.
tawny pebble
The soulblaze stacks can really melt through a health bar.
sharp flint
Soul blaze with Smite is good.
But smite without those modifiers.
It's pretty bad.
tawny pebble
Yes, since you can't really melt through a horde just waiting for the electricity to pop them.
sharp flint
Soul blaze makes muties one shot with a dueling sword stab.
I feel the dueling sword would do better if psyker has a stealth option.
Because the knives with the assassin perk with Zealot and Veteran are good with stealth.
long wharf
Could be team buffs or crits
definitely critting
bright yoke
useless right?
haughty star
Probably the electricity one.
Surge does really reasonable bossing damage
long wharf
useless right?
100% sell
sharp flint
I mean that staff combined with smite is pretty good.
Just turns it into sith lightning it's a fun ability.
haughty star
with warp flurry and unyielding on the staff and warp charges full i usually do more damage than anyone that's not boss focused on their build. it's a small chunk but it's at least noticeable lol
sharp flint
My build is focused on elites.
As to be honest elites definitely usually cause the majority of my deaths.
sharp flint
Veteran and Zealot usually are built for boss killing.
Ogryn and Psyker are better at controlling enemies more often.
haughty star
only way vet is built for boss killing usually is just having krak grenades lol
and that's cuz frags are kinda dumb and smoke is really dumb lol
sharp flint
Bleed builds are fun
Like I actually have fun with the damage they put out.
Against most bosses it just shreds apart their health. Using even a shovel does.
haughty star
im okay with the damage the surge does tbh. it's not super great at anything but it's not really bad at anything either lol
it's just kinda mid across the board which is fine for my playstyle
sharp flint
I mean if everything didn't serve a niche builds wouldn't be interesting.
That's what I like about darktide the variety of builds.
haughty star
that one guy in gen chat was 100 percent set that if you had smite you have to use it for damage lol
sharp flint
Damage? It's for controlling enemies to make them actually manageable. It gets pretty hectic.
To be honest controlling the hordes is pretty powerful. And saves many fights.
small valve
psyker shotgun when
sharp flint
Psyker sniper when?
haughty star
To be honest controlling the hordes is pretty powerful. And saves many fights.
it is. even with just the flamey yell perk on my smite with my smite surge psyker i've rarely ever failed a auric lmao. it just makes things easy on the team as a whole
small valve
Psyker sniper when?
brain burst:
sharp flint
True.
Imagine they give assail a shotgun like ability
Just makes a set of shards that shoot together maybe not as concentrated could be cool.
wind spruce
psyker shotgun when
Fuck that would be grouse
sharp flint
Just make assail like a shotgun as an alternative ability
wind spruce
Or give us shotguns.
sharp flint
Some psykers can produce ice.
small valve
i like shotguns
small valve
Imagine we could bring up ice walls.
I saw a guy do this in a toothpaste ad once.
sharp flint
Yeah there is apparently psykers who used ice.
Vortex psykers would be hilarious
Just sucking poor heretics into a vortex.
That would actually be awesome.
So many powers they could have added and they added smite.
Smite is cool and all.
small valve
Palpatine psyker
sharp flint
I mean some psykers abilities just make them more powerful and able to tear apart enemies with their hands.
tawny pebble
Just sucking poor heretics into a vortex.
LOOK AT ME
LOOK AT ME
i am the blightstormer now
sharp flint
I'm just saying assail could have been anything.
Shards are cool and all but imagine smacking heretics around and beating them up.
tawny pebble
I saw a guy do this in a toothpaste ad once.
this did crack me up
sharp flint
Slapping heretics silly is funny.
small valve
this did crack me up
real
sharp flint
But veteran, ogryn, and zealot already do this.
Imagine having a terror field that scares enemies.
small valve
doesn't seem very useful
tawny pebble
essentially AoE suppress?
hot zephyr
Shards are cool and all but imagine smacking heretics around and beating them up...
Scriers gaze kinda works as a version of Hammerhands, which is another fairly common ability for psyker
sharp flint
Yeah fair enough.
tawny pebble
if suppress was better then Terrifying Barrage wouldn't be such a bad pick
and i could support such an ability
sharp flint
I like that psykers can summon weapons.
To be honest that would be cool.
As a game mechanic.
small valve
psyker stubber
sharp flint
Unleash rage is like a battle rage ability
small valve
warpstubber
sharp flint
Some psykers can just have wings.
bright yoke
oh my, this good?
sharp flint
Yes they summon wings from the warp.
hot zephyr
One that would be hilarious but also insanely difficult to program would be mind control. Target something brain burst style and turn the mob to your team or something
small valve
oh my, this good?
pretty good ig
hot zephyr
Imagine you mind control a crusher or a reaper (or even a few of them) and watch them smash their former friends
sharp flint
Seems pretty basic for a psyker.
I mean warframe does this?
And it's a free to play game.
As certain warframes you can do this.
small valve
the company that develops warframe is probably far larger than fatshark
free games make crazy bank
sharp flint
Unleash rage would work with a game like darktide.
small valve
oh that's what you meant
sharp flint
But veteran already has a ability that does this.
So I am doubtful.
I enjoy the niches of psyker so I understand why they wouldn't do it.
long wharf
the company that develops warframe is probably far larger than fatshark
DE was about to declare bankruptcy and close its doors when they released Warframe
ornate hamlet
Which staff should I use?
long wharf
nobody at DE had any idea that space ninjas was going to blow up the way it did
small valve
Which staff should I use?
damage
bright yoke
bast in the glory of my rng!
sharp flint
Those stats are pretty good.
small valve
i don't know the weird fucking rng shit I don't understand math so I don't do it
small valve
bigger numbers is better but perks and blesssings
sharp flint
But them together makes them better
long wharf
ignore what I wrote before, I thought it was a surge staff
sharp flint
If you don't have good stats your perks are good as useless.
ornate hamlet
If I'm trying to go warp battery am I better off with In Fire Reborn (10% chance on soulburn kill to grant warp charge) or Psychic Vampire (4% chance on mine or allies kill)
magic kayak
like blow? imagine you can create your own stims
oh my discord did not update at all... that was in response to psykers making ice
magic kayak
if suppress was better then Terrifying Barrage wouldn't be such a bad pick
suppress is actually pretty strong, try it out in grinder, use a terrifying barrage staff on enemies while youre close to a group and watch them cower in fear
long wharf
if you're trying for the penance, don't take the 6 warp charges
midnight jolt
but I just did, I realized if I want to kill elites, have more warp resistance, I'm better of with 6
it had no progressed for the last 10 days
50 progress on one mission? that's ... progress 😂
dreamy sinew
If I'm trying to go warp battery am I better off with In Fire Reborn (10% chance...
Vamp
People can steal your soulfire kills
ornate hamlet
Cheers
dreamy sinew
Also instead of 10% on kills that you can only get 3 different ways you get 4% x4 on literally everything
Np
ornate hamlet
Hard to get penance, been trying for a bit now
dreamy sinew
I went through the same process and just found vamp to be better overall
I think the highest I got was around 250 ish
I only used warp charge to shit out bubbles lmao
Then I discovered gaze
Very normal I for the life of me do not know why I didn't try it earlier
ornate hamlet
Oh nice, my main build for damnation is purge with bubble, brain burst and empowered. I want to try Auric soon - need to try some builds to do it
harsh urchin
you generally want builds that can kill stuff
dreamy sinew
I've seen a few auric mael duos with bb and empowered
harsh urchin
rather than builds like purg or smite heavy builds
ornate hamlet
Interesting, I was thinking I'd spin up more of a support build for Auric
harsh urchin
that are tickle based
ornate hamlet
Any recommendations on a skill tree?
harsh urchin
assuming you're trying to get the penance
I recommend stuff like surge, vs, revolver
ornate hamlet
Oh yeah for this penance. My builds pretty alright. Just never enough enemies
dreamy sinew
Honestly you could just run around and snipe elites and specials with a columnus
ornate hamlet
Yeah, I'm currently trying a hounds mission but hounds are too infrequent
woeful reef
What is that whiplash sound when firing the surge staff? Is that a Critical hit indicator? It randomly pops louder than normal firing.
tawny pebble
if it's accompanied by purple lightning/a bigger enemy head explosion, yes
midnight jolt
What is that whiplash sound when firing the surge staff? Is that a Critical hit ...
it means that
woeful reef
So purple lightning is the crit indicator
tawny pebble
not inaccurate
strange fox
Good start hope it don't brick
woeful reef
What about the void staff.
urban sandal
what about it
woeful reef
How do I tell when I get crits
urban sandal
since you should be using the Surge blessing then whenever 2 balls come out
not sure how to tell otherwise
magic kayak
run mod that shows dmg numbers
dreamy sinew
Doesn't the 2nd ball only come out on impact
And honestly you could just use mettle to tell when it crits
woeful reef
What is mettle
dreamy sinew
Skill
long wharf
People can steal your soulfire kills
no they can't
dreamy sinew
Well til
long wharf
In Fire Reborn doesn't require soulfire to kill anything
just that an enemy die with soulblaze stacks going on it
dreamy sinew
I've tagged a target and it not be killed by me (I could be bugging)
Not that I really rely on that but
long wharf
your tagged target can be killed by anything
but you won't get a DD stack unless you are the one to kill your tagged target
in fact, that's one of the bad things about DD
it's easy for other players to kill your target without any way of knowing they did so
robbing you of a DD stack
dreamy sinew
It's easy to keep up anyways but yeah
I don't really use the 30 stack because I don't want to get my large stack cucked
long wharf
basically nobody does
losing all stacks at once feels bad, and having 30 seconds instead of 15 is basically the only way DD is usable
strange fox
how good is warpsiphon on a gunker really ?
kinda wish it gave some sort of minor damage buff.
long wharf
uh, you do get a damage buff per warp charge
there's no other reason to go with Warp Siphon while using a gun
as Warp Siphon doesn't properly reduce Scrier's Gaze cooldown (known bug)
buoyant dust
guys... 15 headshots in 10 seconds penance (dodge this)... tell me how.
long wharf
super easy
grab a columnus IAG and just aim at the heads of the horde
spamming a void staff's secondaries will also work
burnt maple
how do people feel about Fire Trauma staff vs rending trauma staff?
buoyant dust
spamming a void staff's secondaries will also work
I'm trying spamming fully charged void strike staff energy balls against huge damnation hordes and still haven't gotten it...
been stuck at 14/15 forever which is frustrating lol
urban sandal
how do people feel about Fire Trauma staff vs rending trauma staff?
both great, fire trauma gets you more damage, rending helps everyone in the team including you
long wharf
been stuck at 14/15 forever which is frustrating lol
just keep at it
you'll get it, and it's easy to get at high difficulties without specifically chasing it
burnt maple
both great, fire trauma gets you more damage, rending helps everyone in the team...
okay cool thanks, i have a fire staff right now and it's pretty baller, gonna try to get a rending 4 staff
buoyant dust
just keep at it
I'm aiming at the head level obviously, but doesn't even matter? Seems like the ball should hit enough of the head if I shoot at center mass...
does it* even matter (for void strike secondary strikes)
long wharf
of course it matters
quaint tide
is it just me or can Psykers NOT catch a break with pants?
long wharf
if you aren't hearing that "spak" sound, you aren't hitting heads with void
buoyant dust
alright I'll give it anouther couple goes, if no dice I'm just gonna switch to a Columnus V
quaint tide
like, every single set of pants cosmetics for Psyker just fucking sucks
long wharf
is it just me or can Psykers NOT catch a break with pants?
yeah, lots of fugly pants for psyker
long wharf
which is why I mostly wear the all leather pants
quaint tide
why the fuck does Zealot always get the most Schwag'd out cosmetics
buoyant dust
if you aren't hearing that "spak" sound, you aren't hitting heads with void
copy that, thanks for the feedback
long wharf
I think psyker got the best krieg outfit
rose dagger
Idk but you but I love the serial killer clown meth head vibe some of the psyker pants give
restive slate
I think psyker got the best krieg outfit
Krieg Zealot is pretty good too
Funnily enough, Vet got the most boring Krieg outfit
long wharf
and then it got squished
slim raptor
DD requires that you kill the DD target
It actually doesn't
long wharf
yep, the first version released had a full-looking bag on the front
slim raptor
Your stack timer resets on hitting the target you just don't gain any stacks until you get a kill
long wharf
when people complained about animations clipping through it, FartShack flattened the bag to the chest
long wharf
Your stack timer resets on hitting the target you just don't gain any stacks unt...
oh? I don't use DD, so that's news to me
restive slate
If they change a modifier where DD kills nearby also count then DD immediately toptier
slim raptor
You actually don't have to do "damage" just targetting and begining the charge of brain burst resets the stack timer
restive slate
Oh yea if you BB a DD target without blowing them up it works too
long wharf
DD ought to give credit to the psyker when the target dies, regardless of how or by who
slim raptor
Meh
restive slate
But if 0 stacks, it'll stay 0 haha
slim raptor
DD is basically only used with EP anyways and it's fast enough with that
slim raptor
?
long wharf
they're both keystone abilities
slim raptor
op
restive slate
DD ought to give credit to the psyker when the target dies, regardless of how or...
It's why I suggest a modifier so nearby DD targets dying count too no matter who killed
restive slate
I use DD on my GunPsyker
long wharf
It's why I suggest a modifier so nearby DD targets dying count too no matter who...
that should just be default DD behavior
slim raptor
I use DD on my GunPsyker
Is there another way to run gunpsyker?
long wharf
if that were changed, DD would become an attractive option for a lot of builds
restive slate
Is there another way to run gunpsyker?
I saw some use Shield and EP for Assail...
restive slate
If EP default stack is 3 and increased to 5 by modifier then maybe
long wharf
but EP is the best way to keep throwing shards
slim raptor
I saw some use Shield and EP for Assail...
Why would you use either of those for gun builds. You lose out on the key part of gun psyker in SC and you forfeit getting the best CDR in the game
restive slate
I'm considering DD with Purgatus
slim raptor
I'm considering DD with Purgatus
I don't think it does anything for purg
restive slate
Why would you use either of those for gun builds. You lose out on the key part o...
I know, it's not my build for sure. Seen others use it and me cringe
slim raptor
It's a finesse bonus
slim raptor
Also it would be pretty hard to build stacks with that
long wharf
yeah, no weakspot hits for purge
restive slate
So only WarpCharges synergise with Purg
slim raptor
Directly yes
long wharf
not only that, but there's a node under Warp Siphon that purge is best for taking advantage of
In Fire Reborn
slim raptor
But purg is a pretty defensive staff
long wharf
uh
restive slate
At least I'm having fun with SG purg ...when I don't mess up peril that is
long wharf
purge excels at clearing out the horde, and the greater the enemy density the more it shines
urban sandal
trauma would be the defensive staff
slim raptor
Point being with purg you generally pick whatever will benefit the rest of your build more
slim raptor
purge excels at clearing out the horde, and the greater the enemy density the mo...
I mean sure but a illisi is pretty much always going to clear that horde faster
restive slate
Though purg seems to struggle against bosses to me, considering chainsword for boss damage
long wharf
I mean sure but a illisi is pretty much always going to clear that horde faster
not on HISTG damnation
you physically can't swing fast enough to hit as many enemies as purge can
infinite cleave is a bitch
bright yoke
yooooo
urban sandal
restive slate
Noncrit Surge ...is life even worth
slim raptor
you physically can't swing fast enough to hit as many enemies as purge can
I mean just hit the activate if there are that many flak elites in the horde
long wharf
and meanwhile the purge pysker just keeps hosing down the horde
again, infinite cleave
point the hose and water the lawn
everything dies
rich jolt
What yall talking about
crisp coral
What staff is best for bosses? currently running purge
long wharf
not just the stuff in your face, like with the Illisi
purge is bad for bosses
bosses have warp resistance
crisp coral
Figured but the dot helps
bright yoke
I thought crit was the dump??
urban sandal
it is
long wharf
look at the value range for crit bonus
slim raptor
point the hose and water the lawn
I guess but the most stacks of blaze a purg can apply on it's own is 15 iirc and thats only 118 dps
rich jolt
What staff is best for bosses? currently running purge
I dont know much about staffs other than purge but id have to assume bowling ball staff is the best for boss dps
rich jolt
Also yeah purg is really bad for bosses
long wharf
I guess but the most stacks of blaze a purg can apply on it's own is 15 iirc and...
you're ignoring the direct damage purge does while you're hosing down the horde
point is, however, that the infinite cleave is where purge comes out ahead
crisp coral
Then I'll change to that
rich jolt
Btw @crisp coral whatre you having trouble with?
crisp coral
Just trying to get a good bosskiller staff since assail can deal with the chaff
crisp coral
No, lost to the twins because it was a party of randos, therefore 0 communication
slim raptor
you're ignoring the direct damage purge does while you're hosing down the horde
I mean sure? but the illisi is also going to be killing tons of chaff at the same time and actually does more dps to flak armor enemies than purg
urban sandal
Just trying to get a good bosskiller staff since assail can deal with the chaff
the staves aren't good at boss dps
slim raptor
And my purg is built wrong and has 80% damage
It would be even worse if you dump damage like you are meant to
long wharf
I mean sure? but the illisi is also going to be killing tons of chaff at the sam...
look, I'm not arguing that Illisi isn't a great horde sword
just that there's a cleave limit with it
purge is going to clear a dense horde far faster than Illisi will, and it'll do it up to mid-range
slim raptor
just that there's a cleave limit with it
And that cleave limit is very large
urban sandal
purg is the best horde clearing weapon in the game
rich jolt
Reason purg is the best horde clear is the amount of enemies you can hit and keep under control at the same time along with the safety of being not in melee distance
Its not the strongest dps wise
long wharf
once enemy density reaches a critical point
slim raptor
purg is the best horde clearing weapon in the game
It's the safest horde clear it is far from the fastest
long wharf
part of it being the safest is that you can do it at range
having to wait for the horde to be in your face automatically means purge is faster
that horde is gone before it reaches your face
slim raptor
Walk up to them?
rich jolt
Hold on can i get some clarification on what the illisi is?
urban sandal
the force sword that's for horde clearing
rich jolt
Thats the force sword with the psword activation thing right
prime elk
Thats the force sword with the psword activation thing right
Yeah
rich jolt
Okay
long wharf
all force swords do that
prime elk
Sweeping horizontal strikes
rich jolt
Some force swords have the poke instead of the slash
prime elk
So it’s the horde clear force sword
bright yoke
should I replace crit or carapace?
slim raptor
Hold on can i get some clarification on what the illisi is?
It is basically the psyker power sword
rich jolt
Yeah ik i cant remember weapon names for the life of me
slim raptor
carapace to flak or elite
What he said
bright yoke
carapace is the inferior perk?
urban sandal
yes
slim raptor
It doesn't really help you hit any break points
And the surge already has such good carapace damage that it doesn't really need the help
rich jolt
Id say whether the illisi or purg is faster depends on the situation theres not really an overall faster option
urban sandal
my psyker's like level 100 and I've never used a force or dueling sword 
rich jolt
Dueling sword is so much fun you should try it
bright yoke
this is my fav
urban sandal
kinetic deflection parries
long wharf
this is my fav
you're missing the most important blessing
bright yoke
I should prob replace the modify it? lol
long wharf
uncanny strike
slim raptor
uncanny strike
^
slim raptor
what should I replace it with?
Prob precog
bright yoke
I thought so lol
long wharf
shame it rolled shred2
restive slate
Is Shred or the other Crit Blessing prefered?
slim raptor
shame it rolled shred2
tbf there isn't actually that much of a difference between 2 and 4 it's 15% at max stacks vs 20% and that 5% just doesn't matter that much
long wharf
I like shred
bright yoke
I was rocking a mark 2 dueling sword, but I like the power strike pattern on the IV more
slim raptor
Is Shred or the other Crit Blessing prefered?
Generally shred but riposte is arguably better if you are good enough for it
long wharf
riposte will proc if you're dancing around a horde
you'll get more mileage out of shred on single targets, especially the big boys
restive slate
So if I wanna make an all rounded Psyker, I have purg for hordes, bb for long range, what should I use for antiboss melee?
slim raptor
So if I wanna make an all rounded Psyker, I have purg for hordes, bb for long ra...
DS4 or deimos
urban sandal
or dclaw
slim raptor
Can't say I expected that either
urban sandal
parrying trivialises bosses
restive slate
Parry the Plogryn?!
urban sandal
restive slate
(Sorry for reference)
slim raptor
Parry the Plogryn?!
tbf you can block more than 1 crusher overhead with a proper build
steel kettle
I have a general question for the psyker
slim raptor
shoot
restive slate
I have a private answer for you~
steel kettle
The lightning build, where you focus on your chain lightening is it good? Like should I run it over homing crystals?
restive slate
I mean, yes ask away
slim raptor
The lightning build, where you focus on your chain lightening is it good? Like s...
no
steel kettle
I been having fun with being a sith psyker
urban sandal
smite is for keeping elites off your team rather than just spamming
slim raptor
Smite is a niche tool that more often than not is just a waste of time unless you are smiting a mauler/crusher/bulwark squad
steel kettle
I've been mainly using it when we get zerg rushed by enemies
restive slate
Smite can't kill small guys fast enough
steel kettle
So the homing crystal build is more of the go for?
slim raptor
Also not exactly
urban sandal
they all serve different purposes
slim raptor
Because assail locks you out of the best node on the tree
urban sandal
depends what you want to do
restive slate
If they changed the lmb smite to be higher damage to single target then maybe
strange fox
can't tell if i like this more than the other tree. near permanent Scryer is nice
restive slate
So the homing crystal build is more of the go for?
What's your build like? Weapons, ability, blitz skill?
slim raptor
This little boy is probably the best single talent point in the game
steel kettle
Right now, been running with base blitz skill, using a void staff as main weapon, sword as off hand, and using chain lightning
restive slate
This little boy is probably the best single talent point in the game
I never leave home without it
slim raptor
Right now, been running with base blitz skill, using a void staff as main weapon...
? base blitz is BB
steel kettle
let me check in 1 sec
slim raptor
Do you mean you run venting shriek?
strange fox
having a hard time between Disrupt Destiny vs Warp Siphon
restive slate
Right now, been running with base blitz skill, using a void staff as main weapon...
For me, Void can work with both Smite and Assail Crystals. You main the Shout like ability right?
steel kettle
yea
restive slate
Yea thats Venting Shriek, useful and reliable
slim raptor
Smite is probably the right choice for that setup
GIves you something to do for the dangerous elites
You have creeping flames for horde clear
And void is a good all around staff
restive slate
Remember you can let go of the smite before it reaches 100% to force push zapped enemies
slim raptor
Just don't spend it on random trash
steel kettle
So I can stun lock little dudes when we get swarmed and my team can blast em without having to chase
nah ill wait til we get like 20-30 enemies in front of us, then let it rip
restive slate
Smite is a useful tool, not damaging but works well with good team
slim raptor
I wouldn't use it there either
Most classes want to melee hordes for clear and enemies not coming to your blade is actually a hinderance
restive slate
If its for the power fantasy, we can let by a lil Palpatine action
urban sandal
the times I'm thankful for a smite psyker being on my team are when we're in way over our heads getting swarmed by ragers, crushers, bulwarks, maulers etc
slim raptor
Ye
It's a tool you keep in your back pocket but in your loadout you are better off using void until 80 peril and then using creeping flames
That will be better for dealing with hordes than smiting
restive slate
A 2 second smite opens up Bulwarks shield allowing the team to kill them, no need to zap continuously too
slim raptor
nah ill wait til we get like 20-30 enemies in front of us, then let it rip
To be more exact it takes about 80% peril of channeling to kill the weakest enemies in the game
Where as something like the illisi or even your void strike can spend 10-30% to do the same thing and faster
Voidstrike 1 shots those same enemies even to body without a crit and even the trauma with only 43% damage also one shots those enemies and also still provides that CC
restive slate
Also that Smite modifier where they take more dmg is bugged right?
I heard so at least
slim raptor
Also that Smite modifier where they take more dmg is bugged right?
Haven't heard anything about those but even so 10% just isn't
good
restive slate
Unless they change it so it stacks over time to a max of 50% or something
slim raptor
Unless they change it so it stacks over time to a max of 50% or something
Or just change it to rending
restive slate
Then Smiting for long periods would be more useful
slim raptor
Even that would be better
restive slate
Oooo rending lightning
Also my own personal gripe, wishing Smite and Surge lightning are more visually distinct
slim raptor
Honestly both of smite's nodes are bad
hitting 3 extra enemies isn't good
And 10% bonus damage also isn't good
Granted only assail has good nodes
If you ignore that you have to take them to make assail even worth it
restive slate
I don't take the recharge for assail, I feel more Shards distract me for doing damage with gun and sword
But that may be just me haha
slim raptor
Meh the only time I even run assail these days is in a meme build for 4s and below
Granted running assail and SG is funny
It isn't good
But it is fun
ornate hamlet
Any tips for the Cliffhanger achievement?
queen fog
Counter intel mission near the end was where I got mine, shrieked majority of them off then spamed push off the rest
restive slate
I did it with Trauma by accident but I think it's easier with Smite and Venting Shriek
wide lake
Blessing for the Illisi Force Sword?? The hoard swipe one
restive slate
Uncanny and the Power with Peril one
You can switch uncanny for something else too
meager moon
Blessing for the Illisi Force Sword?? The hoard swipe one
I've had a good experience with either Uncanny or Slaughterer
wide lake
Slaughterer falling out of favor for Unstable Power now?
meager moon
Not sure, I don't think I've used Unstable Power
wide lake
I have Uncanny III+Slaughteror III at the moment, so I donnot which to keep permanently
restive slate
I used Unstable Power on Scryier Build, quite fun
meager moon
I could use some advice on a dueling sword I rolled today
How easy is it to proc Rampage on a Mk IV dueling sword? Is there an attack combo that is consistent with that
Thinking of just replacing that blessing
urban sandal
unless you want to use it for horde clearing just replace it
urban sandal
unyielding or flak would be better than cara
tawny pebble
flak is on the head of a decent number of carapace enemies, right?
meager moon
Whatever is best for spearing the heads of armored lads
urban sandal
flak is on the head of a decent number of carapace enemies, right?
maulers heads, all of the crusher's body and some parts of bulwarks and reapers
that's carapace
urban sandal
Maybe also infested dmg -> carapace
if you can change rampage to uncanny strike you shouldn't need much if any extra armour pen from flak or cara
restive slate
I miss Stormbringer Rat Ogre, very fun design
I wonder if we can get a ranged Plogryn
meager moon
if you can change rampage to uncanny strike you shouldn't need much if any extra...
Okay cool, I think I'm sitting on a Uncanny Strike III
mighty fractal
I wonder if we can get a ranged Plogryn
There’s an unfinished one in the game files
There’s footage of it out there, but it only uses regular plogryn animations at the moment
It looks like a Mancubus with a melted face
restive slate
I can imagine it using a laser guidance before firing a Tox Rocket
Much weaker in melee but strong area denial
buoyant dust
just keep at it
Got my 15 headshots in the very next match w/ voidstrike staff - good deal
proven geyser
wide lake
we killed the Daemonhost, but it push all of us off the same ledge lmao
long wharf
latent hill
So what blessings work with a Deimos sword?
eager mantle
It would be cool if the deimos could get the property like chain weapons. When powered up the first heavy is the stab
deft nymph
IS EP left talent were you get 12.5 percent on kill worth with good horde clear
fathom adder
So what blessings work with a Deimos sword?
Uncanny Strike plus:
- Deflector if you want it
- Executor if you are good at poking heads
- Slaughterer if Executor isn't working well for you
wind spruce
It would be cool if the deimos could get the property like chain weapons. When p...
Don't both heavies do the same damage when empowered or am I misremembering?
wind spruce
IS EP left talent were you get 12.5 percent on kill worth with good horde clear
No, always take guaranteed charge on elite kill
wind spruce
Uncanny Strike plus:
- Deflector if you want it
- Executor if you are good at po...
It's worth noting executor stacks up multiple times on empowered weakspot hit just like uncanny strike.
deft nymph
seems like on auric mal its stacking more purg staff and assail spam but elite one is better for elite hordes
latent hill
Uncanny is crit hit chance after repeated weak spot hit yes?
past brook
no, uncanny is stacking rending on weakspot hit
latent hill
Oh I see
untold niche
Imagine you mind control a crusher or a reaper (or even a few of them) and watch...
Don't need to outright control them. Just have them turn against their teammates.
Though imo not very useful because that single crusher going die from the 2 other crusher he stand beside
restive slate
Imagine if Brainruptured enemies stagger/suppress surrounding enemies
latent hill
Imagine if Brainruptured enemies stagger/suppress surrounding enemies
Would they move from their previous cover?
restive slate
pop
Scab Bruiser: "Holy Crap!"
restive slate
Would they move from their previous cover?
Depends on Suppression coding
If its like stagger coding, don't rely on it. PTSD of knocked down ragers standing right back up when you hit them
wind spruce
Imagine if Brainruptured enemies stagger/suppress surrounding enemies
It used to spread warpfire to surrounding enemies.
ornate hamlet
How easy is it to proc Rampage on a Mk IV dueling sword? Is there an attack comb...
All the dueling swords got their light cleave increased to 4.5 in a somewhat recent patch, which makes them cross 6 cleave with rampage 4
Rampage + shred/riposte on the mk4 honestly is a pretty good middle ground and the heavies still do good damage against carapace, plus rampage acts like a +36% infested anyway and with the push attack also gaining cleave I think it might also act as a reliable +36% against crowds of bruisers, with the heavies one-hitting lone ones anyway
I'm inclined towards recommending that blessing combo because of how much the mk4 doesn't sacrifice when taking a crit blessing in the place of uncanny strike
plucky flax
Rampage riposte could be sick.
I have 2 mk4, 1 with rampage uncanny, 1 with rampage shred personally
limber silo
I just wish I could have three blessings so I could have rampage/shred/uncanny
plucky flax
3 blessings sound balance.
wide lake
is the damage too low?
mighty fractal
Put Blazing Spirit, Warp Nexus, and either Flurry or Rending Shockwave on a Trauma
There’d never be a reason to use anything else
ornate hamlet
Rampage 4 turns dueling swords into horde dialogue farming
deep pine
Are you going to change a blessing?
bright yoke
no theyre perfect no?
deep pine
Some want either one of those two + surge
anyways I personally would change unarmoured first to flak/maniac/cara
and then think about second choice
obtuse axle
Crit chance is good for the crit build and combo it with Surge blessing.
deep pine
yeah just depends how you want to play, nexus + flurry seems pretty nice also.
bright yoke
hmm nexus surge could be fun 🤔
deep pine
Flurry also kinda good for that staff though because it has lower charge rate?
flurry + nexus might be more consistent than nexus surge
plush oak
Flurry also kinda good for that staff though because it has lower charge rate?
On flurry i think transfer peril works better than nexus just cuz u can rapid fire
untold niche
is the damage too low?
yeah
blast radius is up to preference (bigger = hit enem ybehind cover but might be harder to aim headshot)
Based on waht i see of the stats, imo charge rate doesn't matter that much so long its above 60
oh yeah, might be good to know, quell speed refers to how much you quell per tick
the actual tick internval can only be reduced by the talent tree node solidity
untold niche
i run cara+maniac but you can run maniac + flak
test out brekpoints and see what you prefer
use the loadout config mod
i run surge and don't run crit chance
untold niche
Guy triggered dh, died to it, it went on me as 2nd target.
imo DH should not kill the second guy
as in
they shouldnt have DH "reap" the second guy
untold niche
for context
i had that happen to me before LOL
urban sandal
happens every time for me
untold niche
how come game doesn't allow you to look at teammates weapons and exact build in the lobby
screne
potent echo
DH also shouldn't lose to gravity but alas
mighty fractal
I joined a game yesterday where a DH was busy smacking an ogryn
ogryn died, DH immediately leashed onto me
rude-ass DH
I just got here!!
quartz barn
Aggro on the second person makes no sense
I legit dont get the trigger (if there even is one)
And if its random thats just a dumb mechanic as you get punished for someone elses mistake
I did learn that you can somehow despawn the dh by running really far away
hoary badge
It aggros on the player who damaged it the most
quartz barn
But sometimes it doesnt do that
potent echo
I never had a DH despawn from distance
hoary badge
If no one damages it they just pick the closest target iirc
potent echo
I'm not sure if it remembers the bot damage or previous player's
Probably really hard to test
hoary badge
I like drawing aggro as the wizard since you can just peril block and skip around pillars
quartz barn
Hey atleast they removed the "use stealth to lose aggro" thing
plucky flax
Guy stating the obvious. Gunners = bad.
hoary badge
Stealth shouldn't do anything to DHs period
quartz barn
You can also bait it around by vaulting over something
Dhs have a tp cooldown, but they can vault (kinda rare)
elfin roost
Siblings, this is what melk has
Is this a worthy one regardless?
Of the fact that its green I mean
I've always wanted to play gunpsyker but never had an opportunity to get a roll I've heard people complement a lot on this chat
untold niche
not me scanning all three alone while idk what my team is doing on the above floor
hoary badge
It's alright as recon goes but I'd value a higher stab stat since headhunter's giving you most of your damage
hoary badge
They have sway when firing
untold niche
not me scanning all three alone while idk what my team is doing on the above flo...
they couldn't figure out that there were other floors
elfin roost
They have sway when firing
So definitely good, but not required if you become a pro csgo player
plucky flax
not me scanning all three alone while idk what my team is doing on the above flo...
Classic hab dreyko.
hoary badge
So definitely good, but not required if you become a pro csgo player
I mean if you're pro enough to autocorrect at a recon's fire rate, the more power to you
untold niche
+99 AND +124 BTW
quartz barn
Atleast you have less enemies on you while scanning
elfin roost
I mean if you're pro enough to autocorrect at a recon's fire rate, the more powe...
Oh I definitely cant but its worth a shot
Quite literally
quartz barn
Mfw i solo all 5 scans at the tree before enemies spawn
hoary badge
You could sign up to be a hyperion gun AI
plucky flax
Stealth zealot is my comfy space for hab dreyko.
elfin roost
Alternatively I could get this
Damage is bad, finesse is just as bad but the blessing combo
hoary badge
Rampage will give you most of the damage you need anyway
elfin roost
Fair, is the finesse that wide of a range?
latent hill
Finesse is for crit hits
hoary badge
And att speed
untold niche
Atleast you have less enemies on you while scanning
they procced DH on the stairs area
im dead
elfin roost
Eh its barely anything imo
latent hill
Personally idk which chainsword is best for horde clearing…
untold niche
i honestly felt like quitting once the scanning thing
they are cheating heavily as well
doing the bot thing
which honestly i hate
latent hill
You mean leaving then returning?
elfin roost
What, building up an army of bots?
hoary badge
IV does hordes better with their heavies, but I haven't really seen much of a difference compared to the variants of other chain families
hoary badge
You mean rejoins?
latent hill
What, building up an army of bots?
If someone gets downed, they leave and let the bot replace them and they have a chance to rejoin with either a corrupted wound or just no dire consequences
elfin roost
oh
hoary badge
Players in our region actually integrate rejoins as part of the metagame
You have to see it to believe it
untold niche
Players in our region actually integrate rejoins as part of the metagame
i don't understand them
Play hardest difficulty but want to cheat
latent hill
Was it dauric?
hoary badge
Like I said, they think it's part of "teamwork" lmao
It permeates into auric maelstroms
quartz barn
Its not really cheating tbh, but idk how you even die in some scenarios
untold niche
Was it dauric?
auric maelstrom
hoary badge
You can't get away from em
restive slate
Gets netted, disconnects even though I'm otw to save them
quartz barn
90% of the downs i see are from regular hordes
hoary badge
Worse
quartz barn
People rarely die from getting netted because most have learned to instantly pick them up
hoary badge
Gets dogged, disconnects during rescue and dog immediately pounces on you
restive slate
I remember knife Zealots who rush ahead, get caught, disconnects and now 3 rooms of aggro'ed enemies are charging
untold niche
Its not really cheating tbh, but idk how you even die in some scenarios
i mean how is it not
you die, then suddenly 1 minute later you are alive again
quartz barn
Ye fair
hoary badge
I just embrace my moments of bot solo gameplay
quartz barn
Only seen it a handfull of times however
restive slate
Waiting for official solo play
quartz barn
Usually the bots are better than my teammates
restive slate
I had quite some fun min maxing my bots back in Vermintide
untold niche
Only seen it a handfull of times however
i see it almost every game ngl
quartz barn
You can do this with mods btw
latent hill
Hhh
quartz barn
Same with true solo
restive slate
Yea but plasteel
latent hill
People just outright rage quitting is ridiculous
For better or worse I’d rather be a meat shield for my team than just rq outright
After dying
hoary badge
Sure they don't deserve the win, but I can still derive my fun from the extra challenge
latent hill
I’d typically only “leave” if the whole squad was down to give the others a fighting chances
untold niche
again i don't like people doing that either
i rather just lose
why do people want to win so badly
latent hill
Fair I suppose
hoary badge
You need a strong dose of failure for lessons of bad play to set in
Which these players are never forced to take
latent hill
Well, for now i need to try and sleep…
hoary badge
I remember knife Zealots who rush ahead, get caught, disconnects and now 3 rooms...
Ah yes, the Handmaiden Weave strat
radiant frigate
very juicy
deep pine
I want that staff 😄
mighty fractal
lmao
Joined a mission
instantly pox bursted off one of the stairways in Sycorax into the pit
very nice welcome
like my screen was just loading in as the burster was jumping
ionic needle
Absolutely disgusting
fallow yacht
do you have any advice for me on using Trauma staff? I often find it difficult to aim at distance
ionic needle
I'd say it's all about practice, I'm shit at aiming it but it's getting better every game
quartz barn
Trauma use at a distance is weird, as you have to look up
ionic needle
I think part of it is actually using LMB to hit distant targets sometimes
quartz barn
But ye eventually youll get a feel for it, at a certain distance the circle just goes in the air
untold niche
like my screen was just loading in as the burster was jumping
thats the welcome animation
fallow yacht
and is there any way to aim it at catwalks?
in few events gunners like to camp them
quartz barn
Alternatively opt to using a blitz instead
fallow yacht
BB, yeah, storm doesn't really help with distance issue and assail is not available with left-side trauma-blaze build
radiant frigate
headsplosion is a good ability 
tulip umbra
Does anyone have a video build recommendation for shard throwing psyker?
fallow yacht
dumb tree, why can't it have perfectly horizontal branches like other nonheretical trees
potent echo
BB, yeah, storm doesn't really help with distance issue and assail is not availa...
Why not?
quartz barn
You wont be able to pick all the soulblaze perks if you go for assail
fallow yacht
isn't storm short range ability? that was always my impression, but I have to admit, it's one I haven't played around with much yet
potent echo
You mean like wildfire
quartz barn
I also run bb with trauma, but i dont find gunners that much of an issue
fallow yacht
Yeah, wildfire
potent echo
Quick advice, don't pick wildfire
quartz barn
Main point of the fire trauma build (or just trauma in general) is to have a ton of close range cc + dmg so teammates can take care of long range
potent echo
Long answer is read the atheneum
quartz barn
And you can just spam bb with long range enemies anyway since most areas that have gunners at long range barely get mixed with close range enemies
wind spruce
dumb tree, why can't it have perfectly horizontal branches like other nonheretic...
Because psykers have brains
quartz barn
Or you just play on the flank and draw every special instead
rich jolt
dumb tree, why can't it have perfectly horizontal branches like other nonheretic...
Warp
wind spruce
Does anyone have a bleed damage table
rich jolt
If something doesn't make sense in 40k its always the warp
fallow yacht
Quick advice, don't pick wildfire
why not?
fallow yacht
Long answer is read the atheneum
after quick look on the atheneum it lists WIldfire as "mandatory" for fire trauma
ornate hamlet
I GOT WARP BATTERY SIBLINNGGSSSSSSS
mighty fractal
gratss
mighty fractal
after quick look on the atheneum it lists WIldfire as "mandatory" for fire traum...
I wouldn't call it mandatory at all simply because of how Wildfire works
quartz barn
Context, wildfire only spreads 4 stacks max, which does so little its seen as a waste
mighty fractal
What happens is that when a burning enemy dies, the fire stacks on that target are divided among nearby enemies
so at most, one target will receive 4 stacks
at worst, everyone will receive 1
The problem is that it's very difficult to quantify how much of a difference it actually makes when killing a horde
Sure, it'll pad scoreboard numbers
quartz barn
at worst, everyone will receive 1
Correction: at worst 4 enemies will receive 1 stack
mighty fractal
but the main goal of Wildfire is to clean up stragglers and to spread that fire further into a horde
Yeah that's important, ty lol
I'd say the jury is still out on whether it's actually 'good' or not because nobody who argues for Wildfire actually provides evidence of it making a difference in a horde situation
outside of "it makes scoreboard number bigger"
thing is, in the worst case scenario
where a handful of enemies receive one stack
quartz barn
The only real benefit of wildfire is to kill enemies outside your weapons range
fallow yacht
that's disappointingly low; and what I is it cannot go above 4, so if I have blazing spirit, creeping flames, perilious combustion... wildfire often will do nothing because of the cap?\
quartz barn
Bad on purg since you apply way more stacks
Ok on trauma
I run it only because i somehow get a ton of sniper kills with it
mighty fractal
- Is that 1 stack of Soulblaze reducing the number of hits needed to kill a poxwalker/groaner/bruiser (common chaff enemies)?
- Is that Soulblaze actually killing anything?
If it's not doing either of those things, it's just a pretty lights show
which is fine if you have the point to spend
fallow yacht
(and Trauma with Critical Hit Chance | Wrap Nexus | Blazing Spirit)
quartz barn
Also remember that it can give targets up to 4 stacks, it doesnt do anything if the target already has 4 or more
mighty fractal
That too
if the target already has 4 stacks of Soulblaze
which it likely does if you're running Purgatus or Blaze Trauma, and especially if you're running Creeping Flames on Shriek
Wildfire will do nothing
mighty fractal
Since you're running Blaze Trauma, I'd recommend trying Inner Tranquility over Essence Harvest
quartz barn
Eh for trauma you basically prime enemies
mighty fractal
in the Warp Siphon tree
Also, try moving that point from Wildfire to Warp Battery for the 6 charges
quartz barn
Gives them a few stacks through wildfire, then increase that when you actually get to hit them
Still niche tho
mighty fractal
Yeah it's an edge case scenario (literally) and it's very difficult to judge when that actually occurs or makes a difference
plucky flax
#stopwildfirehate
plucky flax
Tru pls buff.
mighty fractal
quartz barn
What i dont hate wildfire, i legit run it myself
mighty fractal
But yeah, Inner Tranquility will help you a lot with a Blaze Trauma build
quartz barn
Dont really use purg however, and wouldnt use it if i was
mighty fractal
it will make juggling high peril for the 3-4 stacks of Warp Nexus much easier, which is really important for keeping hordes lit
plucky flax
Just did 700k damage in 27 mins. Wildfire probably did like 30% of that.
mighty fractal
Essence Harvest is neat but fairly unreliable, since it won't always kick in when you need it. Plus, it only refreshes the single stack of 30% toughness regen when you get a new Warp Charge
Now, if Essence Harvest worked like Veteran's Kill Confirmed
where multiple instances of toughness regen could stack at once
hoo boy
I'd take it in a heartbeat
fallow yacht
I'll try out, thanks. I was running Essence cause I really like having Toughness and on paper it looks like 6% regen per sec. during combat
mighty fractal
Oh, one other thing
mighty fractal
I'll try out, thanks. I was running Essence cause I really like having Toughness...
Try running Quietude instead of Battle Meditation
Battle Meditation might actually mess with your peril juggling
Quietude will serve the purpose you're trying to get out of Warp Essence, except you get to choose when you get that emergency toughness regen
plucky flax
that's disappointingly low; and what I is it cannot go above 4, so if I have bla...
Nah it does a ton. I run wildfire on trauma, purga, and surge. Everything burn and die. 
mighty fractal
Running from shooters? Quell peril, get some emergency toughness back
Kiting a horde and you REALLY need a bit of toughness now? Your natural peril quell will give you toughness regen as you're dodging backwards or whatever
fallow yacht
cool idea!
mighty fractal
Quietude patches up all the situations where you need some toughness regen but can't hit many/any things to proc Soulstealer/Mettle/etc.
Yeah mess around with those spare points a bit and see what works for you
who knows, maybe you'll unlock the secret sauce behind Wildfire...
fallow yacht
thanks very much!
mighty fractal
npnp
mighty fractal
You can also try moving a point from Warp Expenditure to Kinetic Deflection
plucky flax
Just don't tell inquisitor Grendyl.
mighty fractal
You have a lot of toughness regen as is, and Kinetic Deflection can help with revives or for blocking stray hits
depends on which melee you're running though
i bought a wildfire from hallowette with aquilas and it doesnt seem to work
i think she ripped me off...
Warp Expenditure is probably the weakest of Psyker's many toughness regen options
fallow yacht
Blaze IV atm - I really like its horde control / cleave on light and one-shotting passing muties with charged heavy never gets old
fallow yacht
yeah
mighty fractal
it takes care of your single-target needs
The charged attack is super satisfying and cool, but actually, the Deimos' Heavy 2 puts in a ton of work
just chaining heavies or doing light > heavy kinda murders everything
especially if you're running Uncanny Strike
it'll help a lot vs Maulers and Crushers
radiant frigate
hmm today i will send crushers to the floor
fallow yacht
yeah, that too, although I'm not doing it as much as I should
mighty fractal
Knocking crushers on their back with the force sword push attack is always funny
they just stumble backward and trip
all because i threw a hand at them
radiant frigate
i was more talking about deimos h2
mighty fractal
oh yeah that's funny too