psyker-class

[dawn spoke]

oh absolutely, columnus is disgustingly meta

I think that's part of why I got bored of void also

[untold niche]

to me these stuff i will never touch
column, psword, plasmagun, evisc

not like im going to play vet anyway

[dawn spoke]

power sword feels terrible tbh I always wish I could have an illisi on my vet

[untold niche]

i see that thing one hit everything

the charge is super fast as well

and it cleaves

how does it feel terrible

[haughty star]

After using a void I built and copy pasting a meta build I genuinely enjoy surge more

[dawn spoke]

it's very possible I'm doing something wrong with it

[spice veldt]

spam specials with psword and call it a day

[untold niche]

^ pub vet gameplay

[spice veldt]

i much prefer the mk6 psword over the illisi simply because i can two-shot crushers

[untold niche]

bro psword + plasmagun

i think you could easily solo the whole game

i see the vet

close range

fucking psword is the answer to everything

one tap mutie

one tap gunner

[dawn spoke]

I guess I have too much psyker brain and am always playing vet in a way where you'd want to just shoot crushers in the head

[wet belfry]

Psword has to low mobility.

[haughty star]

See I prefer devils claw over a meta built p sword

[untold niche]

even zombie they charge and slash

[wet belfry]

Mobility is op in this game

[dawn spoke]

actually that's definitely the problem and it's why I like revolver and helbore so much

[spice veldt]

the mobility is a non-issue unless you're the solo player and you don't have any nades/VoC

[untold niche]

^

[haughty star]

Or you just enjoy faster paced feel lol

[untold niche]

its prob this as well luma

[haughty star]

Not everything is about optimally doing everything

[untold niche]

now that i think,
vet prob easier than ogryn if you have meta gear for both

[dawn spoke]

I think you're right

[untold niche]

just play mommentum zealot

or gunker as you are

if assail felt nicer i would play gunker

[dawn spoke]

yea I think if I can get good at gunker it'll really scratch that itch

[untold niche]

it seems to me that is the hardest playstyle in thsi game

not that its hard hard

[tawny jetty]

I don't think assail is necessary for gunker.

[untold niche]

as in that version of gunker

cause i think only that version requires you to swap weapons so much

[dawn spoke]

the psyker atheneum has a gunker build with smite but it mostly is focused on maintaining warp charges to buff gunplay

[tawny jetty]

I've been coming around on assail. Used to hate it but I've been using it more w void staff.

[untold niche]

and look at what you are doing

[dawn spoke]

oh yeah the assail swap playstyle is crazy fast

[haughty star]

Dd scriers illiss melee feels amazing until the funni part time stacks and scriers go away

[dawn spoke]

what's the appeal of assail with void?

[untold niche]

i jsut hate how it controls
and after the first hit, and how many it hits after + how it hits is not intuitive
that would prob be better with experience but yeah

[rotund fable]

Assail lets you farm True-aim stupidly fast and fire off the surge-crits from the void

[tawny jetty]

Just a general thing to swap to when the group is moving. I found I'd get left behind when charging and shooting void.

[untold niche]

why not jsut fire your void into horde though

i genuinely don't understand this combo too

unless its a "because i want"

type thing

[midnight jolt]

I'm done with my Zealots weeklies, and was able to make the most mid hammer you can make, is not bad, is not great,
you will hate it but you can't let it go if you don't have anything else

Now back to Psyker 😂

[dawn spoke]

I was about to say, your psyker must spend a lot of time at the gym to be able to lift that

[untold niche]

damn not even 70 on damage

[midnight jolt]

but is not bad

[dawn spoke]

69 damage > 80 damage

[midnight jolt]

and is not great

[untold niche]

iirc defences and crowd control is dump stat for crusher
for CC as long as its above 60 its fine

[tawny jetty]

You're right about void clearing horde well. Just gotta have good positioning.

[untold niche]

i have bad positioning, just fire more xD

[rotund fable]

Because Void's charged shots are kinda janky with wether they want to count towards true aim or not.

[tawny jetty]

Fuckin same. Which is why assail is sometimes my panic button too.

[untold niche]

never had problems with it in psk

[midnight jolt]

what is the exact Columnus that is the best you can have? thinking for both Psyker and Zealot

[untold niche]

i usually just tank 1 hit and fire more
else swap to illisi to clear the one guy right infront of me and swap back

[wet belfry]

80 in everything expect mobility. Flak, crit chance. Dum dum, fire frenzy.

[plucky flax]

You must be pro.

[midnight jolt]

I meant MK5 IAG?

[plucky flax]

It's dumdum and flak. Your choice for 2nd perk and blessing.

[untold niche]

im averaghe thats why i run illisi
the pros use ds4

[tame venture]

you know, what does damage on purge staff do anyway?
i get how burn does most of the heavy lifting, but even if it was minor, wouldn't damage still be important?.

[plucky flax]

Yeah I use ds4 with void I am veri pro

[untold niche]

goddam teach me pls

[lyric burrow]

its the direct damage from casting

[untold niche]

on this topic

[steel flame]

It's just the direct tick damage of the flame itself and literally nothing else

[untold niche]

should i roll for a deimos :v

[plucky flax]

Teach what? Just spam assail all the time.

[untold niche]

my actual only weakness

[plucky flax]

That's the secret.

[untold niche]

is muties

fucker you

spam assail when you have void

[dawn spoke]

ds4 and deimos both wreck muties

[steel flame]

So it's YOU causing this

Shame on you

[haughty star]

I use illises because it's a fun attack pattern

[untold niche]

@plucky flax does deflector from illisi carry over to deimos?

[plucky flax]

A bit old but ez voidstrike maelstrom clutch
https://youtu.be/bsyaSPCj1eA

[lyric mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[plucky flax]

I use assail all the time.

[untold niche]

i run illisi because its easy horde clear
again im scrub

[dawn spoke]

yeah all force swords share blessings

[tawny jetty]

Yeah, Deimos is fun! Decent cc with either block push or knock down anything that doesn't die from l1h1.

[steel flame]

Yes

[untold niche]

if you run ep with void muight as well change your void to volvo at that point xD

[plucky flax]

Nobody actually play assail anymore idk why.

It's all smite spammer now.

[untold niche]

thats basically knock off gunker

thats noit void

me me

no acknowledge

[dawn spoke]

where are you finding smite spammers? I haven't seen more than one or two at level 30

[plucky flax]

I am the smite spammer.

[haughty star]

Deimos is sick if you got smite for back up

Fuckin things a savage

[plucky flax]

Okay you're pro I'm noob.

[lyric mantle]

a lot of times its because people are caught up in doing damage. Many players think if they're not directly doing damage they're not contributing.

wait i'm an idiot

nvm

disregard

[plucky flax]

Xd

[lyric mantle]

I shall carry this shame to my grave

[midnight jolt]

which?

[haughty star]

Isn't there a term for that

[untold niche]

me me no acknowledge that is void build*

[plucky flax]

My point is I see more smite than assail now in my eu lobbies at least.

[dawn spoke]

elf brain

[lyric mantle]

smite is amazing cc

[haughty star]

Frag chasing I think

[dawn spoke]

circle chasing

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's just my way of playing void. Aka use assail way more. I'm not that good with void nor I find it that good.

[untold niche]

in 3 minutes you shot your void twice even though there was a fat horde in a corridor

[dawn spoke]

or the more modern take, gold number chasing

[haughty star]

Yeah if you're not obsessed with being the competitive in a coop game lol. Smite is great

[lyric mantle]

If I contribute to the success of the team I don't care if I have 0 kills. But thats not all players which is why its nice that there is build diversity

[haughty star]

Most people just want the hi score on that dumb score board mod lol. Likely why one wasn't included with the game

[untold niche]

i mean, i do :p

[lyric mantle]

Personally I like supports and tanks more than dps

[plucky flax]

Nearly 800k damage in 32 mins voidstrike (mostly assail)
https://youtu.be/O6LAe8oC_D4

[haughty star]

On surge smite if we had a 100 percent clean run I know it's largely because of me half the time lol

[umbral helm]

I got it just 'cuz I like viewing statistics, but none of the numbers mean anything of substance to me. especially with how arbitarily it seems to tally total score together

[hollow current]

Anyone know of the mod that lets you make custom weapons in the psykanium?

[untold niche]

ah, i look at the actual stats like elites kil.led etc

[lyric mantle]

I want a stat that shows how much I tanked teammates FPS with smite

[plucky flax]

Plasteels pick up most op stat.

[untold niche]

something like this one

[haughty star]

I'm still usually the highest scoring with surge smite for overall because of defensive and disabler disabling

[untold niche]

ah i don't see the calculated scores

i feel those don't tell you anything

[plucky flax]

Why do you hide plasteels?

[untold niche]

but even revives is misleading

[plucky flax]

Not a team player?

[untold niche]

i got too lazy to cahnge it

last time i didn't care

so i turned it off

[haughty star]

Usually in the ballpark of 500-700k damage on my usual psyker

[untold niche]

when i first used the mod

and was configuring

[plucky flax]

Not picking plasteels confirmed.

[untold niche]

there were times when i cleared the area, took half hp just to save the fucker only for some teammate to slide in to revive faster

[untold niche]

false, i posted a gameplay video

that proves my innocense

innocence

[plucky flax]

[lyric mantle]

Innocence is not something the Inquisition believes in

[untold niche]

but tbf i don't pick as much plasteel on psyker because of DD
i still open stuff but i won't walk the side lanes

[wet belfry]

I find im better living in the delusion that my teammates meaningfully contribute every game

rather then having a scoreboard

[untold niche]

i like to know what im doing good or bad at as well

[wet belfry]

I know that im doing good

[plucky flax]

My man

[untold niche]

i was quite surprised when i realized i had the most disabler/elite kills on zealot because of revolvo

i thought i would do the best for horde clear but im wrong

same with ogryn because GG

so yeah

resutls can surprise

[untold niche]

thats pretty good i think, i average around 500
and im the vet is good my melee elite will not be yellow

if*

[haughty star]

I don't do maelstrom a whole lot yet unless I'm with randoms

[tawny jetty]

@untold niche so now you know why I run void assail. Because of AgentChaos's shameless self promotion/YouTube links.

[plucky flax]

[haughty star]

You shush, he's the top one percent

[plucky flax]

It's ez to play good build.

[haughty star]

Ask him, he'll tell ya.

[untold niche]

ad revenue 😎

[untold niche]

but yeah, at that point might as well run a revolvo

[plucky flax]

No ads. Also use ad blocks I don't care I'm just posting memes.

[untold niche]

im joking, how much ad revenue can one realistically get from posting in this discord

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike let you build peril easier. It's useful for enhanced blitz modifier.

Since you won't generate enough peril with assail alone with that mod. You struggle to cast 6 stacks of creeping flames.

[untold niche]

i see

wait

you dont run gaze

[plucky flax]

Why would I? I only use creeping flames on all builds.

[untold niche]

wouldnt gaze be better for that sort of gunker playstyle tho

i think it boosts assail damage as well right

[plucky flax]

Idk maybe I don't vibe with gazer.

[untold niche]

iirc it boost finese damage

[lyric burrow]

gazer boosts finesse damage and movement speed ye

[bright yoke]

worth upgrading?

[plucky flax]

If you don't have a good one yet then yeah. Bit low quell speed.

[olive ember]

Surge staff?? Free dockets

[prime elk]

Smh

[olive ember]

I speak the truth

[vocal cliff]

Th trut in puding

[bright yoke]

I'm trying to find one better then this lol

but my luck is ass

[haughty star]

Surge the best I don't care what meta void simps say

[lyric mantle]

but with Purge and Smite you can attack your teammates FPS directly.

lol

[haughty star]

Surge still makes the gpu heat up lol

I use surge/smite cuz it basically makes the game easy mode for everyone else lol

[tawny jetty]

Hey man, I'm down w Surge, I just got a nice void so I gotta use it. My surges are just kinda blah.

[lyric mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

When hordes try to move

[plucky flax]

Yeah quite easy to find a better one than this.

[tawny jetty]

I like smite better when siblings are doing it. Then I can just murder.

[haughty star]

Yeah I admittedly started on surge but I've now tried a good void and purgatus and fed em through a couple different no brainer builds and I just find them lacking in all purpose

Surge is just really really well rounded imo

[spiral minnow]

red on reddit there is „murder“ wall in Carnival mission where i could cheese warp battery, does it still works?

[haughty star]

Wdym by cheese warp battery lol

[midnight jolt]

Void and Purgatus lacking? no no

Purgatus is probably the best support staff you can get, it will keep your team alive, you won't be the 1st on the scoreboard, but your team will live

[haughty star]

Surge literally checks all the boxes

It can boss, it can kill specials, elites, snipers at range

Tazes shit

[midnight jolt]

Void can do that better

[haughty star]

I just don't agree with you lol.

[midnight jolt]

That's OK, you are not part of the top 10%

[haughty star]

If you like it than fine but it's pretty much factual that surge is well rounded

Cope and seethe

[lyric mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-shocking-elf-buddy-the-shocking-gif-10410642

[midnight jolt]

Careful when using the word factual, it hasn't done you many favors

[haughty star]

Quit being a simp

[midnight jolt]

I'm a purgatus main, and have a void as backup, so I can't really be a void simp as you say

[lyric mantle]

Holy Fire

[haughty star]

Purg boring to me and pretty much requires assail use which i find akward and clunky, from what I can grasp on it

Maybe I'll revisit in on a BB build

[midnight jolt]

There is something called a team, when I play purgatus my job is basically CQC support, bubble (or wall) and brain burst a target here and there, spread the fire

I'm OK with lacking in some aspect, someone else can deal with that aspect I'm lacking

[haughty star]

To each their own. I prefer to at least have somewhat of answer to most things in the event of everyone dying lol

How do you run it? Like a BB EP build?

[blazing wind]

if I have the voidstrike staff as my weapon (which allows me to clear hordes), what should I take as my psyker ability? brain rupture vs bosses?

[midnight jolt]

Diagonal dash and LMB can just stagger whatever I need if I need to reposition

I just have to be able to dodge

[plucky flax]

Take whatever you want. I use assail with void personally.

[tawny jetty]

I like assail and shield w void. I can see smite for emergency situations too.

[midnight jolt]

I consider smite a good complement for void yeah, at least for me is much easier to use than surge staves

your main DPS is still void, smite can help with stun locking provided that your team gets the message

[silent ruin]

yous fuk w the cape?

[lyric mantle]

it sometimes takes half a match for my team to understand smite at low levels

[midnight jolt]

charged void can go through hordes like butter, aim for the head slightly charged and it goes through every enemy

and with the one I have, it decimates special enemies:

[haughty star]

Do you run ep or the warp siphon?

[tawny jetty]

Damn, that's nice. I wish I knew blast radius was the dump stat sooner...

[lyric mantle]

Ah yes the warp cannon staff

[midnight jolt]

it double hits for 600+ dmg (each dmg)

[haughty star]

How fun would surge be with surge

[lyric mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-die-sayonara-power-robot-gif-17882755

[midnight jolt]

what can you do? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[terse scroll]

GundamxDarktide when?

[spiral minnow]

any tips then? i am at 3 minutes, ruined by waiting for person bcs elevator .(

[lyric mantle]

Ogryn Lascannon?

lol

[willow hazel]

infested isn't even that bad. It should let you one shot hounds and poxbursters

[haughty star]

I honestly don't know if it'd be worth giving up flurry for. Pretty necessary pwrk for surge

[midnight jolt]

that's just one for testing, I can't use it, I don't understand how you are supposed to RMB + LMB

[haughty star]

Yeah dude the carnival or the consignment yard with the outside train yard at the end should do ya

[lyric mantle]

I hate when people faff about for 10 years when the rest of the team's in the elevator.

[midnight jolt]

it happens to newer players, is fine, tunel vision takes over sometimes, have we all not been there?

[haughty star]

Or what is that one called.... The one with the big area you hide in one corner of and fend off waves until the plane gets there

[lyric mantle]

Yeah

[spiral minnow]

feels like eons .)

[wanton lagoon]

how important is damage on purg staff? can it be really low?

[spiral minnow]

imposible to do it in quick play... maybe possible, but it is pain as hell

[wanton lagoon]

or it still kinda matters?

[radiant frigate]

can be low

mostly sets souls ablaze

[wanton lagoon]

like this low?

[subtle igloo]

The emperor is playing a joke on me

Look at this gift I got

On PSYKER

Well guess I’m ripping off dumdum for my vet

[radiant frigate]

i never felt like blessings on guns really matter

[wanton lagoon]

is this fine? or too low

[subtle igloo]

They make a difference but in few cases do they really matter

[radiant frigate]

except maybe opening salvo oneshots

[radiant frigate]

workable I'm sure

[wanton lagoon]

great

[radiant frigate]

I'm not team purgatus though

i suggest getting a second opinion

[wanton lagoon]

i have a surge staff

[brave fiber]

iirc you need burn at 76 minimum for the best burn application

I’d try for another

[wanton lagoon]

alr, thx

[brave fiber]

Most important stats on purg are burn and cloud radius, dmg matters very little

[onyx sleet]

is a build using soulflame and wildfire viable?

[queen fog]

That’s my go-to for psyker, eats up the hordes pretty nicely

Spam lmb or rmb with purg, watch the wildfire snowball

[midnight jolt]

Read it, is important

[wanton lagoon]

oohhh interesting

[midnight jolt]

Burn at least 76% or go home

[lyric mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[stuck sinew]

What blessings should I do

[onyx sleet]

what are the best blitz abilities?

[stuck sinew]

for what?

they do very different things

[midnight jolt]

I use wild fire, fight me 😂

[lyric mantle]

Its a great passive perk

[tawny pebble]

yeah, the blitzes have different use cases

and should really be used to round off your build - it doesn't make an abundance sense, for instance, to take Surge staff and Brain Rupture

some builds don't rely on their Blitz at all, for reference of how integral they actually are though

[queen fog]

I use BB on my flame build to make up for purg’s lack of range, helps a ton with snagging stray bombers or snipers

[tawny pebble]

same with a lot of trauma builds

[umbral helm]

depends what you want out of the build, ultimately

[stuck salmon]

Any builds that would make it a tad easier for warp battery penance

[midnight jolt]

damnantion, just have 4 instead of 6 and good luck

[radiant frigate]

hm, so purgatus does good boss damage?

[tawny pebble]

yep, soulblaze damage is exponential as you add stacks

a melee weapon with +% damage against unyielding is fantastic

[onyx sleet]

should i use an autogun or a lasgun as a low level psyker?

[haughty star]

Why do people say this? It's about keeping the stacks not earning them

They don't decay any faster or slower lol

[tawny pebble]

i'm guessing getting to max as fast as possible maximizes uptime? idk

[tawny jetty]

More elites to kill on higher difficulty, so you can keep your stacks up longer.

[haughty star]

I spose it'd be like 5 or ten seconds quicker to max but you'd have 8 percent less damage to keep uptime with

[haughty star]

No the 4 instead of 6 thing

[spiral minnow]

got from 3 minutes to 4 minutes... warp penance, but boss spawned and we had to go back and no special around... and when i ask teammates, 2 are trying to let 1 special alive and third teammate just kill it... what a shit penance

[tawny pebble]

the Warp Battery talent, that is

lets you keep 6 warp charges instead of 4

[midnight jolt]

do you write guides @haughty star ? do you know things as a fact or just opinion?

do I trust you more than the atheneum?

[tawny pebble]

i think build strength as it applies to completing a specific penance can only be opinion

well substantiated, perhaps, but opinion nonetheless

some people genuinely find it easier to complete Warp Battery without...Warp Battery

[haughty star]

Oh so just regurgitating information. Got it

[tawny pebble]

and some don't

[haughty star]

I can't say much, I got mine on accident lol

[tawny pebble]

i also can't weigh in because i just don't use warp charge builds that much

and haven't bothered to grind it out

i've just talked to enough siblings to see people's thoughts on the matter

[onyx sleet]

does soulburn count as a warp attack kill?

[haughty star]

Mine just popped up one day, I was like "oh shit" lol

Think it was on circuis

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[tawny jetty]

Do you remember what kind of staff you were running?

[haughty star]

Yeee even force sword kills do

[haughty star]

Surge and smite, always

Not much smite tho just when things get overwhelming for the team as a whole

[tawny pebble]

surge is great for popping specials/elites

[haughty star]

It's just a really well rounded staff imo

[tawny pebble]

what are your recommendations for boosting the damage there, by the by? the crits are fantastic but thus far less reliable than i've enjoyed

like i want to love it

[haughty star]

Just spam it more

[tawny jetty]

I'll have to try again. I got to 280/300 awhile ago and just said fuck it.

[haughty star]

It's about how much you can edge your peril

Also I always run warp battery and only vent when I'm smiting a chunky horde

[tawny pebble]

i wish surge staff had any better blessing combos than nexus/flurry lol

[eager mantle]

I just ran surge with max stacks and got it one game

[haughty star]

Pretty much 100 percent uptime on free 24 percent damage is a no brainer to me. I also run maniac and unyielding to make it a legitimate threat to bossing and it brings my particular break point for ragers and muties down from 3 to 2

[haughty star]

Literally same lol

[eager mantle]

Play enough aurics, it'll happen eventually

[tawny pebble]

play enough aurics

i'm not there yet sibling lol

[haughty star]

Oof you'll get there.

[tawny pebble]

i'm getting comfortable enough on Damnation at least

[haughty star]

Often times auric is easier than regular damnation for me lol

[eager mantle]

You'll get there. High intensity just helps

[tawny pebble]

just as i did once upon a time on Heresy

[tawny pebble]

is that more that the auric player pool is just better, or

[tawny jetty]

Would queueing random damnation put you in auric? I feel like I've done HIST before on quick play.

[onyx sleet]

so does that mean with the soulstealer passive you get 7.5% toughness every time your soulburn kills something?

[haughty star]

I think so personally

[haughty star]

Yes

[tawny pebble]

Aurics are separate mission levels iirc, they're not modifiers like HIST

[haughty star]

The tension is higher in auric is all when the missions line up. Someone on here explained earlier that it basically punishes you more for lingering or taking too long to clear

[tawny pebble]

so the trend continues from heresy -> damnation

[haughty star]

Well with heresy to damnation you have tougher enemies that deal more damage

This is not the case with auric

[midnight jolt]

I don't understand your statement, it sounds like something passive-aggressive, I'm just giving the information people that have rigorously tested things have provided

[spiral minnow]

gonna ice psyker bcs dat warp battery is biggest BS, its not even fun playing it anymore...(
which missions dont have elevators or airlocks?

[ornate hamlet]

None that I know of

[spiral minnow]

or at least has lowest amount of them for long periods of time

[haughty star]

It just doesn't make sense. I was asking why it was the way it was out of genuine curiosity and you didn't actually know why so immediately jumped to hostility with the whole "dO yOu wRiTe gUiDeS" nonsense. I was just retorting to your passive aggressiveness with a appropriate response.

[midnight jolt]

you affirmed the burn thing as a fact, not as a question

[haughty star]

Burn thing? What are you even on about

[midnight jolt]

you literally oppossed what the guide says, and completely discarded it, you even say "people that say that"

maybe I read it wrong, let me go back and re-read what you said

[haughty star]

Calm down my guy. You people just look for arguments lol

[harsh urchin]

to be fair,

guides are usually a pretty poor source of information

especially for darktide

you've seen how terrible the youtube build guides are

[midnight jolt]

You people? what are you? special?

[plucky flax]

I can confirm agentchaos 'builds' are a load of crap.

[haughty star]

I'm just gonna disengage from you, my guy, cuz if a simple question sets you off I'd hate to see what any opposition does lmao

[eager mantle]

Nah man my build is auric ready. In reality it's because "auric ready" isn't exactly a high bar to cross. Just be kinda decent at the game.

[haughty star]

I have never ever used shield lol

[harsh urchin]

My personal opinion is that whether you have 4 or 6 warp charges doesn't really matter for the penance
The only 2 things that matter is

1. rate of WC acquisition
2. rate of elites/specials to kill

Which means you want

1. a build that can kill elites/specials on demand/easily
2. more monster mods like hi-stg and auric

[midnight jolt]

this was not a question, this was a statement, you asked and answered

[plucky flax]

Warbreaker arguing with 'Blocked message'.

[haughty star]

I was literally asking why people say that

[mighty fractal]

For Warp Battery, go to Auric Hab Dreyko with a purgatus or trauma staff + Psychic Vampire talent

[harsh urchin]

that means if you're playing low int 4s, it's gonna be harder, same if you're playing purg/smite or sth

[steel flame]

We consider guides here to be...... suggestions and sources for how mechanics work in the case of the psykanium. And thats about it

[mighty fractal]

stay in the finale for as long as possible

[midnight jolt]

is about why purgatus need 76% burn stat at least

[mighty fractal]

Pretty sure it's the highest density finale in the smallest area possible

[plucky flax]

Oh I can tell you. It's for 15 max stack.

[haughty star]

No it's not dude

You don't even know what you're jumping down my throat about

LMAO

THATS SO EMBARASSING

[mighty fractal]

So long as you keep killing the endless hordes in the Hab Dreyko finale event and don't drop stacks, you can get the penance pretty easily

The escape sequence is also good for maintaining stacks

[tawny jetty]

Yeah but that requires going to Hab Dreyko...

[mighty fractal]

I mean if you want the penance

you gotta put in some legwork

[midnight jolt]

unlike you, I don't feel embarrassment for being wrong online, I don't deflect, you literally said something in the middle of that conversation so for all purposes the context was 76% burn stat

[mighty fractal]

At least the rest of the map is pretty short

[plucky flax]

You're brave for playing hab dreyko.

[mighty fractal]

Dreyko endless horde finale is pretty fun

I don't like the rest of the map

[haughty star]

The question was literally replied to your statement about warp battery

[mighty fractal]

Too many narrow walkways with barrels on all of them

[plucky flax]

It's not fun when I'm the only one trying to do objectives.

And teammates keep dying.

[tawny jetty]

Right? That place is a shit festival w randos.

[mighty fractal]

that's why it's fun!

[plucky flax]

I only like playing hab dreyko as stealth zealot.

[mighty fractal]

you can get some good war stories out of clutching the hab dreyko finale

[plucky flax]

Because if I don't stealth and scan nobody would.

[mighty fractal]

It's Blaze Trauma heaven

[plucky flax]

Not when it's nurgle blessed hab dreyko.

[mighty fractal]

Then you sneak in a scan while everything is burning

[plucky flax]

Green ragers will eat you alive.

[mighty fractal]

Green ragers not getting staggered by trauma

[plucky flax]

Nor surge staff.

It's kinda bs.

[mighty fractal]

Green trappers are the worst

[plucky flax]

Green dogs too.

I am so scared of them.

[mighty fractal]

Your muscle memory tells you that you can stagger the trapper mid-shot

and then they nab ya

[midnight jolt]

oh shit, you are right, you answered the warp stacks, but ... you are still wrong in a way 😂

building 4 stacks is faster, mathematically speakin peaking to 6 is harder, for that penance

is a bad build sacrifice but for that penance is better to keep it at 4

[harsh urchin]

yeah but building stacks is completely irrelevant to the achievement lol

it's about charge throughput

which is unaffected by max stacks

you need 1 stack every 25 seconds

[haughty star]

Yeah and it's subjectively easier to keep stacks with more damage to do so

[harsh urchin]

regardless of max

[haughty star]

As to the thing yesterday that you were commenting about the first thing I literally said was that I was wrong and than proceeded to make fun of Chaos because he wouldn't stop being a sore winner lmfao

And then he blocked becuz he was big mad

[midnight jolt]

is about keeping max charges, building 6 takes longer than building 4, so the time you build 6 the fight may be over, think about this:

• time to build 4 = X
• time to build 6 = X + Y
• time to keep max stacks = end of the fight time - X > end of fight time - (X - Y)

[haughty star]

[midnight jolt]

math doesn't lie

[harsh urchin]

lol

yeah but x and y

[umbral helm]

I believe the logic is "if I have 4, I reach max quicker, meaning I can be at max sooner, making reaching that 300 seconds faster/easier" but, in a situation where you're going to be gaining a lot of warp charges anyway, it's going to maybe be, what? a few milliseconds?

[harsh urchin]

are irrelevant in this case

because the main number you fight against

is keeping stacks for 300 seconds

[midnight jolt]

Let it sink for a minute, eventually you will get it

[haughty star]

I'd say maybe 5, 8? To kill two elites

[tawny jetty]

I'm in agreement w Baz, more max stacks = more dmg = more elite kills.

[harsh urchin]

math lies because you need to use brain here unfortunately

[mighty fractal]

Max charges only matters for getting back to max after dropping below max charges

AKA failing the penance and needing to restart

[haughty star]

So yes you are right on a strictly time bonus it would take like 6 seconds longer to get the penance lol but still easier to keep penance with more damag

[umbral helm]

I see the merit behind the logic, but it's preference I think. how you reach it is going to depend on you the player

[haughty star]

Word and it's all on a moot point cuz he jumped down my throat bout the wrong thing to begin with

[mighty fractal]

In a finale like Hab Dreyko's, you can get back to max charges very quickly just because of the elite waves that the event likes to throw at you

I got the penance with 6 stacks

[orchid shadow]

Also don't forget that if you go with 6 charges, you can get Vampire which can get you a charge just from your teammates kills.

[mighty fractal]

Well you can get Vampire without grabbing the 6 charges

[orchid shadow]

True

[haughty star]

Psycher chat lit

[midnight jolt]

and I said it, I'm not passive aggressive, I'm simply straight forward and aggressive, I'm not a hypocrite, do you want to argue about that still?

[harsh urchin]

that's pretty dumb though lol

8% damage for 1 point

[orchid shadow]

But I might as well get some extra oomph with the extra charges.

[haughty star]

Pretty sure everyone here can see you're the only one tryna start a argument my guy lol its all gravy in my book. Just funny is all

[midnight jolt]

Your disingeniuty amazes me, you brought it up again

like my wife

when she wants to argue

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-5958854468941694453

[midnight jolt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral helm]

my point to the argument was that it doesn't really matter, your way works for you? do it. neither is really objectively better

[midnight jolt]

I may try the 6 stacks just for the sake of why I can't make it progress, I have no problem testing theories, that's why they are theories, to be tested

[haughty star]

I can level with that yeah

Just don't vent on one of the crazy ending maps lol. Carnival is perfect for it

That's where I got it on accident

[harsh urchin]

As I said earlier, 4 or 6 doesnt matter

what matters is your build = your ability to get WC

and the map = enemies to give you WC

it has to be auric histg

and your build has to be something good

can't just be a purg or smite spammer unless you just wanna get lucky

[rigid sky]

What are some good ways to do gun psyker?

trying it with accatran laser pistol atm

[mighty fractal]

it doesn't have to be histg, but it certainly helps

[midnight jolt]

Solve this mystery for me, when I didn't know what I was doing, I made it progress, now I even try not to use my active ability to keep the stacks and for the last 10 days, not a single second progress:

[harsh urchin]

if you're just relying on vampire to get charges, you're basically completely leaving it up to chance

[mighty fractal]

I think the Dreyko I got it on was a doggo modifier

[midnight jolt]

Supposedly I'm playing better and better 😂

[haughty star]

I'm assuming you're playing on stg?

[harsh urchin]

you need a weapon to guarantee the charges, ie: revolver or 6 stack surge

[haughty star]

Auric

[midnight jolt]

I was a gunker 😂

revolver, mystery solved

[mighty fractal]

Purg is more than fine for the penance if you're choosing to farm it in a finale

which is why I stress hab dreyko

It's high density, nonstop hordes

[hot zephyr]

BR + Purgatus works pretty well since you will proc the soulblaze one off hordes pretty easily

[harsh urchin]

gunker with warp charges? seems mediocre lol

[hot zephyr]

And throw some BRs for good measure

[haughty star]

I just got it on surge on accident but like I said I barely ever vent

[mighty fractal]

perfect food for purgatus or trauma to get lots of kills

lots of kills = far more chances of triggering Psychic Vampire

[harsh urchin]

hmm I guess 10% would work, i just dislike RNG

[midnight jolt]

I said: When I didn't know what I was doing, it progressed ...

[hot zephyr]

Well, remember, 10% off SB, plus guaranteed from elites

[mighty fractal]

Dreyko end event throws an elite pack at you every so often, too

[haughty star]

Honestly warp charge gunker would be terrible

[midnight jolt]

Just to clarify, I have been playing for 3 weeks

[hot zephyr]

If you just burninate the world and never shriek to drop stacks, you'll be gtg

Just get some quells instead

[haughty star]

Same bruh

I've had it a long time but I hated it before 13

[harsh urchin]

not to be mean, but if you're relatively new to the game, and don't even have the achievement, why speak so confidently about the acquisition method

lol

[haughty star]

I was just sharing how I got it lol

Six stack surge on AD STG without venting to hold on to damage lol

[hot zephyr]

That would definitely work if you just didn't vent for a few minutes

well done

Learning to manage that peril without vent

[harsh urchin]

i think i got it with surge as well

dont remember

[midnight jolt]

I tried using surge, I have a "decent" one, I just can't use it properly

[mighty olive]

Hi siblings, just stopping by to say I love you all and stay hydrated!

[midnight jolt]

it has some mechanical coordination I can't be arse doing, cancelling and shit, fk that

[haughty star]

Thanks man. I've always been pretty good with the peril. I think I've popped like 10 times ever on my psykwr and he's like 55 according to the overlevel mod or whatever it is

[prime elk]

It’s a very good specials killer. That’s basically its niche

And decent against most elites as well

[haughty star]

Mixes well with smite

[prime elk]

And a sprinkling of cc on top

[haughty star]

Does okayish boss damage

[prime elk]

Yeah it’s not super amazing but it’s very comfy to use

And def more than good enough

[midnight jolt]

how much do you charge it? I'm having problems with that

[hot zephyr]

You'd shocked how many of the penances are just meant to teach you a mechanic of the game. That warp battery one is discussed endlessly here because when people first level up, they learn that F key is the saftey button to not perils, and it gets them in a bad habit of having that safety net.

[prime elk]

Often to max or near max because of how fast it charges anyway

[hollow current]

just brought a gray weapon into a malestrom and didn't realize till it was over.

[mighty fractal]

and then there's the peril explosion penance

[hot zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[mighty olive]

Long

[hollow current]

It was a succesful duo run too with a random.

[haughty star]

Usually hold it the same amount of time as it takes when warp flurry procs personally as a general rule

Obviously make a point to fill it all the way on bosses and crushers and maulers but ya gotta remember it tazes everything too so it's not the end of the world if you have to hit em again or a meatstick gets the kill

At least that's what I do and it's been my main since I started on auric

[midnight jolt]

Hopefully this one will do:

[haughty star]

Also I haven't really tested it to any official capacity but seemingly if you quell in short enough bursts it will remain flurry mode

[midnight jolt]

Good, got lucky, can upgrade to 3:

That was just to farm warp flurry

[plucky flax]

My personal surge has flak maniac.

For all da specials and elites.

[midnight jolt]

yeah, but mine was half bricked, this is the best I can do for now:

[plucky flax]

Warp flurry t3 or t4 doesn't affect it too much.

[midnight jolt]

it went from 1 to 3 😂

[plucky flax]

As long as you get nexus + flak/maniac it's cool. Some people run flak and crit chance/unyielding too.

I find maniac works best for me against dreg ragers and specials.

[midnight jolt]

so change flak to maniacs?

[haughty star]

I usually run unyielding and maniac on mine because it one or two taps most flak things and unyielding helps out a TON on boss damage

And maniac is usually the differance between two and 3 tapping ragers

[plucky flax]

No keep flak.

Too many targets with flak torso.

It's the same with trauma. Flak is must have since your right click only target torso.

[haughty star]

Either way I would push for a better one cuz that charge rate isn't going to feel good

[midnight jolt]

do I need lightning storm? does it make the surge staves jump one more target? I can't remember if that was a fact

[plucky flax]

It used to with bug. Not anymore.

I don't run any smite sub talent. I used to run the +1 chain when it was bug.

[midnight jolt]

ok, good, I can use BB then

[plucky flax]

Fair but left click does a good job at taking out far away specials too.

[prime elk]

Smite or assail better with surge staff imo

[plucky flax]

BB and surge sort of compete for the same spot.

[midnight jolt]

my problem was that I'm too used to purgatus so the RMB + LMB combo of surge confuses me

[plucky flax]

It's similar to purg that you don't have to hold left click. Hold right click, then press left click once is enough.

[haughty star]

Smite will fill in the gaps for surge

It's not a great horde clear

[plush oak]

psyker gaming

mk4 + assail + rending trauma

[ornate hamlet]

didn't top boss damage

bad game

[plush oak]

also didnt top plasteel

game = thrown

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-13240550249247957481

[midnight jolt]

I'm loving the surge staff

[plush oak]

surge is nice, but damn the aoe stagger (and damage) of trauma is sooooooo nice to have on demand

[midnight jolt]

so when you go surge is better to also go for smite for horde clearing?

[wind spruce]

Phantom damage on original scoreboard mod
https://outplayed.tv/media/QYNQKb

@plush oak those numbers will be overinflated, particularly for the trauma staff

[plush oak]

Smite is very bad for horde clear
Smite is bad in general except for that 5% of the time when its game saving amazing

[plush oak]

Nah, big damage

Used assail and mk4 most of the game anyways. I only used the trauma for CC when i needed it

For the like 7 minutes i was soloing cuz my teammates were babysitted by like 6 ragers

[wind spruce]

It really hit my ego when I worked out the bug and realised my damage with trauma was always a good 25-40% lower than I thought. Doesn't happen as much with other weapons.

Bc trauma overkills by so much and so often

[plush oak]

Ive noticed insane dmg numbers especially with blaze trauma

[wind spruce]

Yeah because the overkill isn't being calculated properly

[plush oak]

Thats the weapon i get the most damage by like 20% consistently

[wind spruce]

Install ovenproofs extension and compare

[plush oak]

Eh, scoreboard mod is a nice indicator of performance anyways

[wind spruce]

Not with damage, especially on trauma staff

[plush oak]

Understandable, but if u had 200 more kills than your team, for sure u did more damage no? 😂

[wind spruce]

Yeah you probably did more

But by less than you think

[plush oak]

300hp poxwalker x 200

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[wind spruce]

My guess is your damage would've actually been 650k ish

[plush oak]

Could have been, tho as i said i mostly used assail and mk4

Feels kinda sluggish to just spam trauma

[wind spruce]

Maybe a bit higher then!

[plush oak]

Although its amazing value for the amount of stagger it provides

[green notch]

anyone doing Malleus monstornum?

[midnight jolt]

is wild fire recommended for surge? I mean, if I kill elites, they set ablaze enemies, then wild fire propagates? am I over justificating wild fire?

[plush oak]

Who needs zealot book when i can have unlimites warp explosions

[plush oak]

I honestly wouldnt take wildfire if my build isnt centered around soulblaze. Those 5 stacks it applies is very low damage by itself

Point better spent elsewhere if not running blaze trauma or purg

[midnight jolt]

fair

[haughty star]

A man of culture

[plush oak]

[midnight jolt]

yeah, I run it with purgatus, I was hoping it would help with horde at least with the blaze marking 😂

[haughty star]

I kinda like smite with it cuz I'm not super concerned about necessarily killing them but about keeping the aggro drawing meat sticks I allow to come with me in my dream alive

Kind of a insurance policy for those crazy unanticipated hordes from the back pr crusher packs and such

[prime elk]

Honestly blitz doesn’t matter too much, but you absolutely need to run venting shriek

[plucky flax]

I only spam trauma.

[plucky flax]

I always try to take wildfire if able, but not many people are a fan of it like me.

[mighty olive]

Is wildfire even available for surge? I don't even remember o_O

[plush oak]

On purg id say go balls to the wall, take both soulblaze talents and slap scriers gaze on top to watch everything melt away. If u manage to keep yourself between 60-90 peril u will end the game with 2k crit hits and biiiig damagee

[mighty olive]

Errr nm I'm thinking of the blessing

[plush oak]

Im a bobble / gaze kinda guy

[mighty olive]

I don't really feel like purg needs scrier

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-then-you-are-lost-gif-13935229

[mighty olive]

Things melt so good already

[plush oak]

Trauma gaming

[plush oak]

Doesnt need it but it sure is fun 😂

[prime elk]

On auric I definitely feel the limitations of purg tbh

Esp with the number of elites and specialists

[plush oak]

Im a master edger
Dont need no edge protection

[mighty olive]

Eh I dunno, I see people run it with surge and they blow up constantly, really don't think it's needed for purg, am a fan of shriek and purg

[plucky flax]

Ow you got me.

It's I who blow up.

[mighty fractal]

I’m convinced Wildfire is forever going to be a topic of hot debate just because of how difficult it is to quantify

[mighty olive]

XD

[mighty fractal]

outside of generic scoreboard numbers and feelsy arguments

If you like the fantasy of spreading blue fire forever, though, that’s valid

It’s fun!

If there were a way to accurately measure Wildfire’s impact on a horde, then there’d be a strong argument to take it

[plucky flax]

I'm convinced my scoreboard with trauma is still bugged.

[dawn spoke]

I play purg a lot and sometimes switch out wildfire for EE, I honestly do not notice a difference

[mighty fractal]

Basically if

1. It’s killing chaff units (poxwalkers, groaners, bruisers) before they even reach you
2. It’s reducing the number of hits needed to kill those units by the time they reach you

Then wildfire has a strong argument

[dawn spoke]

unless you're creating more soulblaze stacks on top of that 4 (maximum 4), it's not doing anything at all

[mighty fractal]

But if it’s taking distant poxwalkers to half health when they would have died to one hit anyway, then it’s not making a difference

[plucky flax]

Just take it you can spread fire to enemies behind walls.

[plush oak]

Honestly its pretty simple.
4 stacks of soulblaze = 💩damage
But if you use those 4 stacks to get to max stacks quicker with your purg/blaze trauma then = not 💩 but not amazing either

[plush oak]

Now see, this guy gets it

[mighty fractal]

yeah every argument for wildfire is either feelsy or memes

Which is fine

If you like it, use it

[midnight jolt]

I will spread the fire, spread the gospel

[mighty fractal]

If those enemies behind walls would die in one hit anyway to your other sources of damage, then wildfire isn’t affecting your ttk on those enemies

[plush oak]

At the end of the day, everyone can use anything they want.
But if u want the most efficient use of your talent points, in my personal opinion they can be spent better elsewhere

[mighty fractal]

But if it’s, say, reducing the number of hits needed to kill a bruiser from 3 to 2, or 2 to 1, then that’s a decent use of a talent point

If not, then it’s just a pretty light show

which is fine

Just gotta be honest with why you’re taking the talent

Love me some warp fire myself

[plucky flax]

It gives me extra 30% damage!

[mighty fractal]

Is there a way to track how much damage wildfire itself is doing?

[plucky flax]

Yes I use quick maffs.

[plush oak]

If you guys like playing purge and havent tried it with scriers gaze i highly recommend u do. Its super fun

[mighty fractal]

Or is that data culled from multiple runs, where you compare scoreboards with and without Wildfire

[plucky flax]

I played with wildfire and did more than without.

[mighty fractal]

Because big fire number still could mean the fire isn’t actually doing anything if it’s not actually reducing the time needed to kill chaff. Because that’s all that matters in the end

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma wildfire. Surge wildfire. Purga wildfire.

If I take smite or bb I take wildfire.

Wildfire is so OP I get more warpfire damage with surge than a purga user.

[plush oak]

By the will of the Emperor

[midnight jolt]

that's a side effect killing elites, then these enemies dying while on fire

[sacred crane]

Voidstrike 💜

I love shooting balls of energy

[plucky flax]

Shhh you're making too much sense.

[plush oak]

Voidstrike is nice ngl, playing bowling with poxwalkers

[plucky flax]

It's wildfire op.

[midnight jolt]

Time to test wildfire with surge

[plucky flax]

800k damage in 31 mins kinda sick.

[midnight jolt]

which mod is recommended, scoreboard or the other? what its name?

[plush oak]

But did every last one of your teammates say "gg psyker" at the end of the game?

[plucky flax]

No they flamed me for being selfish in war.

How dare I took plasteels + deal damage?

[midnight jolt]

did they know you are in the top 1%?

[plucky flax]

Of course I am super famous.

I can dodge crushers after all.

[plush oak]

Understandable
I too sometimes find myself telling others to go play malice

[midnight jolt]

https://tenor.com/bm0A6.gif

[plucky flax]

No memes but I've been recognised in game a few times.

[plush oak]

Id recognise you in my game

[plucky flax]

Pls no flame

[sacred crane]

I love when people get mad at this game and tell others to "Go back to level 3"
It happens rarely but its funny as fuck

[midnight jolt]

if you see ligthning and soul blaze and only one Psyker, then you know

[plush oak]

Only soulblaze

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

[plush oak]

It happens to the best of us, what can i say 🤷‍♂️💀

But yeah anyway psyker gaming gn y all gotta work to feed the system n all that

[plucky flax]

I mean I got flamed for doing well. "You should thank us for allowing you to play that way."

So.... Xd

Thanks I guess? Xd

[sacred crane]

I got flamed once for playing a support psyker

[plush oak]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-a-generous-god-xerxes-300-youre-welcome-gif-19690831

[plush oak]

Best support is offense

[plucky flax]

OnlySmiter

[midnight jolt]

Actually, some theory crafting, wild fire is bad if you are in lower difficulties, here is the crafting, in T5 maelstorm there are bizillion of elites, each elite spread 3 soul blazes with perilous combustion, the more elites the more 3 + 3 + 3 +3, making wild fire to actually gain up to 4 stacks, and so on, it grows exponentially the more elites are, this is only possible if you use surge which can kill many elites

[plucky flax]

My fav teammate.

[plush oak]

Perilous combustion doesnt work if the enemy dies of soulblaze

Very unfortunate ik

They have to die from direct damage

[sacred crane]

It was an ogryn flaming me for using smite and not killing enough and letting everyone else kill

People just dont want stunlocked enemies

[plush oak]

I love having smiter teammates

[midnight jolt]

it would be nice to test how good or bad the spread is on super high difficulty, I can't test this, I'm not that skilled yet

[sacred crane]

Smite is unironically the best out of all the blitz

[plucky flax]

Yeah I don't get smite flamer.

Like bro they sacrifice their own fun for you to kill stuff.

[sacred crane]

The only reason Im not using it rn is because I wanna use BB more

[plucky flax]

Why flame

[mighty olive]

I disagree >_<

[sacred crane]

Well that is your opinion and I respect it

[plucky flax]

Unless you find spamming smite fun. (I do)

It's so fun that teammate sabotaged me. :c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b657tHKOPcQ

[sacred crane]

Smite gameplay: M2, M1, R, Repeat

[plush oak]

Idk what to say about that one chief

[midnight jolt]

https://tenor.com/RfTn.gif

[plush oak]

Smite is bad like 90% of the time, but that 10% is run saving awesome

[mighty olive]

If smite still triggered true aim, it'd have much more use for me

But it doesn't, and the perks for smite are lacking imo

[plush oak]

Bb perks and assail perks are just better

Bb ones are even better than assails

[sacred crane]

I dont really care for assail

[mighty olive]

I love assail and BB xD

[sacred crane]

BB makes me feel like an all powerful god that can kill anyone with just a look

[plucky flax]

You are describing bb or assail?

[cold elm]

I’ll stick with bb thanks

[plucky flax]

Bb is slow af to actually kill stuff.

[plush oak]

My fav is assail 🥰

[haughty star]

That's one of the best parts about smite, it doesn't need any of its skill tree perks to be good. If you're talking about perks in game idk how making the whole map play freeze tag isn't a perk

[idle valve]

imagine an ogryn casting brain blast

[sacred crane]

BB because exploding heads = 💜

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah with ep bb it's decent I guess.

[haughty star]

He has it. It's called big friendly rock

[idle valve]

funny head gib goes everywhere

[sacred crane]

I use EP BB...am I the only one that runs EP BB?

[plush oak]

Ep + the bb talent

[idle valve]

so powerful it launches poxhounds and mutants

[cold elm]

I use bb to murder gunners and snipers 2 football fields away. Come back to me when your assail or smite can do that

[mighty olive]

Smite has its uses but I just dun feel like it's the bestest

[plucky flax]

Normally I use staff left click for it. (Not purga)

[mighty olive]

I use ep bb with purg and venting shriek, one of my favorite builds

[plucky flax]

If you quell cancel well it's machinegun staff lmb spam.

[idle valve]

i enjoy stagger a lot, so smite fits comfortably with me

[haughty star]

I don't think any of them are the "best", smite is just really good crowd control for next to no cost to the build

[cold elm]

This. Except with bubble

[idle valve]

i also enjoy brain rupture, though at the same time funny lightning

but then no head gib 😢

[haughty star]

I really don't like assail gameplay personally but I haven't really given it a proper chance

[mighty olive]

I want more loadout saves xD

[idle valve]

same here

[sacred crane]

I should use venting shriek more, its actually really good to keep spamming voidstrike

[plucky flax]

You can get more with mod.

[idle valve]

i haven't used assail but last i saw it was when it was cracked

but meh i enjoy the other 2 more currently

staves are a rough fit though

[sacred crane]

its good, but makes game very 💤

[idle valve]

love me my smite

[mighty olive]

It's still very good, I'm usually top dps with assail, shriek, and void

[sacred crane]

Ive just been using bubble because FUCK GUNNERS

[idle valve]

thunder hammer zealot honing in to your location rn

can't wait to get a million monster damage with zealot

[idle valve]

true

aside the hatred part, i also really enjoy bubble

[cosmic sigil]

chat i have ovenproof plugin and... what is the difference between those numbers?

[idle valve]

i end up playing support psyker more than an offensive one

oh i thought you were calling that specific person a loser for some reason lol

nah that's just the indicator

i got no clue what's the difference. my guess is about same as yours

[radiant frigate]

is that the real mystery

[idle valve]

wusmelgi..

can't believe you don't play ogyrn kat

[radiant frigate]

my stery 🤝

[idle valve]

how's the verm server been?

i've basically fled from it for the time being

[ornate hamlet]

Damn, that's the second one migrating

[haughty star]

Legit have never used or liked bubble, scriers and vs are just so strong

[idle valve]

bubble's nice for temp cover and protecting

that's what i like about it

[haughty star]

I just use surge and lmb spam everything I can't tickle with lightning lmao

[idle valve]

lol

[haughty star]

Idk if it does suppress or something but they always duck in cover or die to the warp balls

[sacred crane]

Which is better for shriek, the straight up damage or soulblaze?

[haughty star]

Depends on what you're doing with it?

I like blaze because it's pretty

[orchid shadow]

Soulblaze. That flat damage is not worth it.

[haughty star]

[idle valve]

the flat damage sucks

[haughty star]

Only thing I've always been curious about is isn't it only like 15 damage ticks tho?

Unless you specced out to soul blaze

[idle valve]

i hate damage over time effects but the flat damage is so tiny

[haughty star]

Seems like most things would die flat out before the tick gets em lol

That being said I've taken to using it lately just cuz it looks really cool and adds some spicy to the smite if im using it to sustain smite

[orchid shadow]

If you're taking Combustion, then the fire from shriek just adds more stacks. With proper cooldown reduction, you're adding way more damage than 15 ticks over prolonged fights when mixed in with specialist and elite kills, especially when you can vent almost every 12-15 seconds. And that's on top of extra damage from team mates. You can Vent on a Sniper with max warp charges and it'll eventually die on it's own.

[haughty star]

Oh I don't vent or smite that much I guess lol I rarely ever use it. I like to sit on my WC because the surge stsff really needs that extra 24 imo

[sacred crane]

Should I even bother using EP with shriek

[orchid shadow]

Warpfire from vent can be as much as 20-25% of my damage with my Surge staff.

[haughty star]

Eh just not how I play it man. To each their own lol

[terse scroll]

Question for the Psyker vets

[strange fox]

I can make 1 last modification to this sword. What should i replace?

[terse scroll]

Would Psykers be best if I wanted to cosplay a Techpriests in game? Have they released any cosmetics like that or?

[strange fox]

Thinking i replace carapace for maniac, but carapace is the lowest damage type

So might be good to buff it

[ornate hamlet]

With uncanny strike you can fix that problem

[orchid shadow]

If you want to cosplay as a circus attraction, magikarp or a muffin wrapper.

[strange fox]

Yeah but that would be replacing the lv4 slaughter i rolled when upgrading it

Also i don't have a lv3 or 4 uncanny strike sadness only lv2

[haughty star]

Unstable should be fine until you get uncanny. You can reroll the same blessing

Or just put uncanny 2 on there until you get 4

[strange fox]

Unstable is the best blessing on it.

[haughty star]

No it's not

Slaughterer is lol

[idle valve]

i think deimos can put a decent dent in carapace with charged h2?

[strange fox]

It is cuz scryer

[midnight jolt]

just got this rewarded

[haughty star]

Many people would disagree. But I'm just giving you my thoughts on my experiences with the illises. Done alot of work with that sword

[idle valve]

i figure maniac is to help against pesky ragers and to maybe kill muties

[haughty star]

Uncanny and slaughterer is gonna be your most damage mongering combo on it

[idle valve]

maybe swapping carapace to maniac is a good idea

[haughty star]

Slaughterer is pretty much mandatory tho

[haughty star]

Personally I'd swap for weakspot. Weakspot real weak lol

Ehhhhhhh

Yeah just under the precipice that illissi needs all the help it can get for killing crusher

[harsh urchin]

60% charge rate is unacceptable on trauma

Sadly gotta reroll

[midnight jolt]

it was free

[orchid shadow]

Throw it back in the Emperor's face.

[haughty star]

I imagine it wouldn't be terrible with flurry

But just like the surge you got way better with higher charge

[midnight jolt]

Blazing Spirit depends on Nexus (Crit chance)

[haughty star]

Oh shit trruuu

I don't do traumas my b

[idle valve]

weakspot's terrible

unless deimos has high finesse and i'm unaware xdd

[midnight jolt]

so I understand why the charge rate needs to be way over 70% because there is no warp flurry to help you

[haughty star]

Oh shit that deimos

I big dumb

[harsh urchin]

No lol

Charge rate needs to be 80 because it scales from 2.5s-1s

[strange fox]

72%

[haughty star]

Holy shit its that bad

Fucking fat shark

[idle valve]

meh

[spice veldt]

first staff you unlock

10/10

[idle valve]

rather maniac to ensure i kill mutants xdd

[spice veldt]

truly one of the progressions of all time

[idle valve]

truly the progression of all gressions

[midnight jolt]

So not even this recommendation is enough?

Blast Radius 78-80%, Charge Rate 78-80%

[haughty star]

I was saying swap weak spot instead of carapace for maniac

[idle valve]

ohhh

[sacred crane]

which one is better

[idle valve]

yuck 🤢

[spice veldt]

both blast radius and charge rate are important on trauma yeah

[idle valve]

yeah i agree with ypu

[strange fox]

If i do i won't be able to slot an uncanny in i don't think.

[haughty star]

Yes you can re roll blessings

[radiant frigate]

i, uh, have been banished

so i cannot comment on that

[idle valve]

lol

[haughty star]

You can change the same stat however you want, it's just only two of them can be modifiable

[idle valve]

i assume you did something batshit crazy

[idle valve]

they already modified something

so think they mean if they swap that, they are at the limit now and thus cannot slot uncanny

the real answer is to play thunder hammer zealot

but not many can take the truth well

[radiant frigate]

thumder hmamer..?

[midnight jolt]

Soulstealer and Warp attack kill, what is considered a warp attack kill?

[idle valve]

tund hamr

[spice veldt]

anything that generates peril, and soulblaze

[idle valve]

also verishen, epic pfp

certified american spirit of approval

[midnight jolt]

so surge kill counts I guess

[spice veldt]

mhm

[midnight jolt]

I have one lose point, I'm considering one with the warp or +15 more toughness

[spice veldt]

if they're both a one-point cost, then one with the warp

[strange fox]

Da boiz iz appy

[midnight jolt]

would you say quietitude synergizes with battle meditation? or a better question does it proc when battle medication procs?

[spice veldt]

one with the warp varies from a 1.1x to 1.49x increase to your effective toughness depending on your peril
+15 toughness will vary from a 1.2x to a 1.125x increase to your toughness depending on how many +toughness nodees you've already taken

[haughty star]

Yeah I was saying get rid of unstable for uncanny lol

[haughty star]

Just what I'd do with it I guess

[spice veldt]

ye

funnily enough, battle meditation used to not work with quietitude but that was from a time long ago

i'd say that running battle meditiation for quietitude is pretty whatever

since if you're killing a lot, you're getting your money's worth out of just soulstealer

[midnight jolt]

I'm tempted to replace soulstealer + one with warp by quietitude + battle meditation

[spice veldt]

hmmm

[midnight jolt]

for surge staff

[spice veldt]

i don't use surge so i can't say, but it does generate peril very quickly right

[idle valve]

there's a lot of words today

[harsh urchin]

Psyker theoretically should be insanely tanky

With proper quell cancelling

[idle valve]

very fast from what i remember

[harsh urchin]

33% dr is insane

[idle valve]

play ogyrn

xdd

[wind spruce]

Other classes have way more

[harsh urchin]

Only ogryn

The other classes is less

Or conditional

On tougher conditions

[idle valve]

think vet gets 33% for allies being in coherency

toughness though

[prime elk]

Yeah

[idle valve]

seems more passive and slightly reliable

[wind spruce]

Vet has up to 33% from coherency and 10% stacking three times on weakspot kill

[midnight jolt]

I sacrificed kinetic resonance for this setup:

[spice veldt]

my will is iron (wrinkle-free)

[wind spruce]

And that's with three points invested, like literally at lvl 4.

There's more.

[midnight jolt]

so in theory each kill can restore potentially 12.5% toughness per kill, surge staff

[radiant frigate]

not my resonance 🫢

[midnight jolt]

that setup should work well with my current toughness value

[hollow jolt]

and yet gunners will still instantly break toughness UwU

[feral verge]

@indigo portal

[midnight jolt]

Not enough knives

[feral verge]

i hate knife

[indigo portal]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-freak-puppy-stare-cute-reaction-gif-15215675160072457679

[spice veldt]

OwO

[haughty star]

The whole psykwr being second tankiest to the ogryn is extremely conditional lol. Psyker can be very strong if played perfect but I've not yet seen one person that plays out every match perfect

[haughty star]

I do block resist on two and Stam regen on one with all health all toughness and a +3 Stam with the others being toughness

But that's just because this thing is hilarious. Zero effort block the world when you fuck up strat lol

[long wharf]

uhhh

wow.

[harsh urchin]

No way it's second tankiest lol

[long wharf]

what a great waste of a deimos

you locked a +2 stamina perk

[harsh urchin]

Zealot has better base hp and hp dr, better defensive kit

Vet has voc and grenades

[long wharf]

zealot and vet can both be essentially invincible

[harsh urchin]

Psyker is definitely the squishiest

I was emphasizing how powerful

The node is

[prime elk]

Zealot literally be negating death lmao

[harsh urchin]

Giving 33% dr is a lot

[haughty star]

Yeah cuz the other was a 10 percent block efficiency

Hadron gave me a lemon and I made it funny lol

[long wharf]

wait, you rolled a block efficiency perk into stamina?

[haughty star]

No

[long wharf]

and then slapped block efficiency into the other slot?

you should have kept the block efficiency at 10% then

[haughty star]

Sword was already bricked

Two things had to be good and it was all objectively bad lmao

So I made a shield

[long wharf]

ah

well, okay

[haughty star]

Oh trust me I was pissed lol I doubt I'll ever see another this godlike

[long wharf]

yeah, a real shame

what was the other blessing before you put precog on?

[haughty star]

The one that quells on weakspot hit

[long wharf]

oof

[haughty star]

Just for the meme I went with precog cuz it's the only one that I seen thats "defensive" lol

It's crazy tho I didn't know deimos was so powerful

It still one taps muties with the eviscerate

Regular one taps most specialists and elites aside from that. What's the shtick behind using ds4 over deimos anyway?

[long wharf]

ds4 hits nearly as hard (also one-taps mutants with +maniac perk), but you get better movement out of ds4 over deimos