I’ve slashed the crap outta a horde with a dueling sword’s lights, is pretty effective 
#psyker-class
queen fog
radiant frigate
not too fond of assail
long wharf
you can power through a horde with a ds
it's definitely not the most optimal way to do it, though
rare arrow
not too fond of assail
1 second of smite puts a horde on the ground
You can then get space and position
long wharf
I absolutely love assail
radiant frigate
1 second of smite also implies i do not have brain burst
i like having a modicum of boss damage
hollow current
Who doesn't love the flying JO crystals of murder?
rare arrow
Literally unless you’re using BB as your ability, are bad at positioning, or didn’t bring 3 of the 4 staff options you don’t need illisi
long wharf
I cosplay as Marry Poppins all the time
rare arrow
1 second of smite also implies i do not have brain burst
Heavy from ds4 does more than bb
And is faster
long wharf
and rends
rare arrow
^
radiant frigate
i'm sure it does, but that also requires you to headshot and be real close
queen fog
I cosplay as Marry Poppins all the time
I’d cosplay Palpatine if I had the foresight to predict smite existing 
long wharf
yes, that is the play
karmic bloom
how do iproceed?
rare arrow
Just be close don’t have to weakspot tho it helps
vocal cliff
I like pairing DS for everything but my BB build, I typically use the illsi for the deflector blessing
rare arrow
That being said if you aren’t comfortable in melee than sure, bring an illisi
queen fog
how do iproceed?
Holy shit nice on the perks, leaves room to fuck around with blessings
rare arrow
But I promise the more you play the more the DS4 feels like the only option unless you have no horde control
vocal cliff
Also I gotta say that lil chance of the enemy getting brainbbursted by standard attacks can be a lifesaver
long wharf
how do iproceed?
deathspitter and dumdum, is what I've heard
rare arrow
Also I gotta say that lil chance of the enemy getting brainbbursted by standard ...
I take the other option for rapid BBS
queen fog
Also I gotta say that lil chance of the enemy getting brainbbursted by standard ...
I love % gambling as well 
rare arrow
I don’t like the random peril gain from the BB talent
radiant frigate
But I promise the more you play the more the DS4 feels like the only option unle...
i feel quite the inverse
rare arrow
I think it adding peril makes it bad
radiant frigate
I take the other option for rapid BBS
not mutually exclusive
vocal cliff
I have a build that's the exact same of bb
But the sub BB node is swapped to that
queen fog
I think it adding peril makes it bad
If it makes u feel better it can’t proc at high peril so u technically can’t blow urself up with it
hot zephyr
how do iproceed?
Replace both blessings. DumDum for sure, then your choice of Deathspitter or Fire Frenzy
rare arrow
If it makes u feel better it can’t proc at high peril so u technically can’t blo...
Yea above 90% I believe
The talent should just give a free BB
karmic bloom
Replace both blessings. DumDum for sure, then your choice of Deathspitter or Fir...
gotta go farm bleesing of intantry autoguns then couse i have none T_T
queen fog
gotta go farm bleesing of intantry autoguns then couse i have none T_T
Thankfully it don’t gotta be the Columbus, all they gotta share is weapon type
karmic bloom
if i get traits on my other character also works?
queen fog
Yes
karmic bloom
oky thx
queen fog
Ogryn sadly doesn’t get this cuz all his stuff is operator exclusive 
It still share when earning blessing on types of weapons tho like the rippers, knifes
Anything with diff patterns to it
vocal cliff
You can also look for other guns that share similar blessings with columnus V
I forget which guns do tho
I think there's like.. another 1 or 2?
queen fog
You can also look for other guns that share similar blessings with columnus V
I...
Columbus go brrr
Agrippa slower brr but less spread
hot zephyr
You can also look for other guns that share similar blessings with columnus V
I...
Agrippana, and Graia
vocal cliff
Yeah
long wharf
all blessings are account-wide
weapons that are variants of a single archtype share blessings
combat knives, shotguns, combat axes, tactical axes, etc
the sole exception to that is the force staves
which are each unique archtypes
even though they share a good number of blessings and attacks
opaque charm
(IAG) at least
I don't think anyone believes it's balanced
I wonder if they will get rid of chain crits or what
(that would nerf all auto guns)
hot zephyr
colum prob gonna get nerfed
Yeah I think the answer is other autoguns need some buffs rather than columnus nerfed
vocal cliff
I don't think anyone believes it's balanced
Besides Reddit
long wharf
nobody with a brain believes the guns are balanced
that automatically discludes all of reddit
hot zephyr
Yeah, IAGs overall need rebalancing, but really it's not that columnus is OP, its most of them are not very good.
strange vault
WHAT
long wharf
lucky you
earnest laurel
colum prob gonna get nerfed
Recon lasgun :electric boogaloo
rare arrow
God roll imo
long wharf
get transfer peril or surge in place of sustained fire
marble crater
all blessings are account-wide
They are? Thank god
opaque charm
It is pretty funny to watch Tanner's "more than you would ever want to know about Psyker" hour long breakdown of the class and 90% of his comments are "this is bad because Columnus IAG exists"
long wharf
Surge is weak without the crit
yes, but if you setup your talent tree for it, you can get by without warp nexus when you have a lot of targets
rare arrow
Sure you can true sim gamble it
hot zephyr
WHAT
Shame about the blast radius, but yeah, beautiful overall. Surge, Transfer, or Nexus are all good to replace sustained. Depending how you want to play it
long wharf
True Aim means with good aim, every shot can be a crit against a crowd
rare arrow
Or just make a very universally good weapon with nexus
radiant frigate
Surge is weak without the crit
i like surge a lot with the guaranteed crits
long wharf
I prefer warp nexus + surge
strange vault
Really good staff roll but I would love to have that tier 4 warp flurry a lot
radiant frigate
- blazing spirit to spread extra warpflame
rare arrow
i like surge a lot with the guaranteed crits
I like surge a lot with nexus, had flurry been nexus then I’d change sustained to surge
opaque charm
Doesn't "blast radius" also make the main damage sphere larger?
rare arrow
My main void is a surge
rare arrow
Doesn't "blast radius" also make the main damage sphere larger?
Yes but it’s irrelevant on the void
earnest laurel
Did the smite weakpoint exploit with voidstrike crit get patched?
hot zephyr
Really good staff roll but I would love to have that tier 4 warp flurry a lot
Why bother, staves don't share blessing with each other.
long wharf
blast radius on void is the dumpstat
strange vault
Why bother, staves don't share blessing with each other.
Oh yeah, I forgot
That's a shame
rare arrow
Why bother, staves don't share blessing with each other.
This
long wharf
it really is
rare arrow
You’d throw a away a god roll weapon to hopefully get an almost god roll one day haha
hot zephyr
blast radius on void is the dumpstat
Oh, so this isn't as cursed as I thought?
long wharf
I've been hoping for FartShack to fix that since the crafting system released
opaque charm
I suppose that makes sense
long wharf
Oh, so this isn't as cursed as I thought?
definitely salvageable
strange vault
Shame about the blast radius, but yeah, beautiful overall. Surge, Transfer, or N...
What are the use cases for each one?
I forget what the others besides transfer do since Im still learning everything haha
long wharf
check the pinned messages and read the Psyker Atheneum by Pygex
it's a very comprehensive guide to everything Psyker
strange vault
Got it pulled up already 
rare arrow
Oh, so this isn't as cursed as I thought?
Very good imo. Drop sustained fire and
Actually, maybe both blessings?
Lots of options, but yea good staff
rare arrow
I forget what the others besides transfer do since Im still learning everything ...
They are just different
Nexus is more crit so surge procs more often
The arguement against nexus is that true sim gives you guaranteed crits against hordes
long wharf
even with True Aim, I prefer nexus+surge on void
rare arrow
So nexus big benefit is when you aren’t fighting a line of enemies
Or are slamming into a boss
long wharf
bosses are the biggest reason to go warp nexus
rare arrow
I like nexus surge especially when the staff has unyielding for big boss damage
long wharf
surge procs help you stagger-lock the chaos spawns and plague ogryns
rare arrow
As it already handles lines of enemies fine without
The arguement for peril is it is a ton of peril reduction
Er transfer
So more orbs
hot zephyr
What are the use cases for each one?
Assuming your first blessing is warp flurry:
- Nexus gives you crit, so you can build talents into Disrupt Destiny for massive critical damage bonuses (nuclear bomb launcher)
- Surge turns you into a grenade launcher that hits bosses super hard with it's extra shots, so you stack damage and crit (grenade launcher)
- Transfer turns you into a machine gun that can peril-dump by shooting a horde. Less damage per shot but you basically never have to stop (machine gun)
strange vault
Gotcha gotcha
radiant sleet
Can anyone tell me if this image is using a weapon skin? And if yes, which one? I cant tell if this is the default skin or not. I just want to find a good deimos skin that keeps the cool spearhead tip but I cant find any, they all overwrite it with a boring default sword.
rare arrow
I like surge nexus for the more frequent crits and boss damage as hordes get rekt anyways.
strange vault
Thank you for that, I really appreciate the in depth explanations
strange vault
I like surge nexus for the more frequent crits and boss damage as hordes get rek...
Yeah I was gonna say
Leaning towards surge
rare arrow
If it were a staff like trauma then I’d value quelling more highly
But quelling peril on a staff used primarily at range I value less than throwing 2 orbs into a boss weakspot
strange vault
Also quick question, is there a best set of blessings and such for a purg staff or does it also have multiple use cases?
rare arrow
Though if you add nexus or surge and then try it for a bit you can always swap it later
strange vault
Looking to get a good one of those
strange vault
Though if you add nexus or surge and then try it for a bit you can always swap i...
Ahh right I forgot
rare arrow
I’m not a fan of the purg
But it’s nexus and flurry iirc
I don’t think there are any other options
vocal cliff
Can anyone tell me if this image is using a weapon skin? And if yes, which one? ...
Yes
strange vault
Gotcha
vocal cliff
It's the one from the bundle
hot zephyr
Also quick question, is there a best set of blessings and such for a purg staff ...
Purgatus you always want Nexus + Flurry as well, because crits apply an extra stack of soulblaze. Here's my top-tier purgatus for reference:
vocal cliff
The one where you get the skull bandana n shit
rare arrow
The one where you get the skull bandana n shit
Wasn’t that free?
strange vault
Purgatus you always want Nexus + Flurry as well, because crits apply an extra st...
🙏 Appreciated
hot zephyr
🙏 Appreciated
You rarely quell with shriek + CDR build, so quell is the dump stat for a purgatus, you want 76% burn and 76% cloud radius
rare arrow
Are you on pc?
vocal cliff
No
rare arrow
Ah that’s why
near drift
Purgatus you always want Nexus + Flurry as well, because crits apply an extra st...
Only level 3 flurry smh my head
long wharf
skull bandana was a freebie from the beta
rare arrow
I believe it was free for pc
radiant frigate
purgatus always makes me go Huh?
hot zephyr
Only level 3 flurry smh my head
1% bro, ain't going to feel that
rare arrow
Console got a bunch of free Aquila and that armor was the apology we got for free
long wharf
along with the special needs head protector with the beta letter on it
long wharf
Console got a bunch of free Aquila and that armor was the apology we got for fre...
no no no
vocal cliff
I think the 14k was limited up to November or whenever the new sets for pc dropped
Like BUYING the game before that date
long wharf
we got the Vanguard stuff because people complained about console imperial edition getting 14k aquilas and those of us on PC who paid for imperial edition got 2400
vocal cliff
No gamepass bullshit
long wharf
which can't even buy a set now
everyone who played between Nov 12th and 17th got the vanguard cosmetics
vocal cliff
I didn't get 14k unfortunately, I got 2400 but that may be because I bought it on December or later in which that deal is no longer available
rare arrow
I didn't get 14k unfortunately, I got 2400 but that may be because I bought it o...
I got 2400 but I bought it in 2022 lol
midnight jolt
No gamepass bullshit
Gamepass is no BS, is an agreement, they pay lots of money upfront to the studio/publisher
vocal cliff
I mean in terms of how you get the 14k aquillas back when the game game out
Like you couldn't just play the game on gamepass to get the Shaquille
rare arrow
we got the Vanguard stuff because people complained about console imperial editi...
Right. Console got a bunch of benefits that pc didn’t. Pc said “wtf fatshark we’ve been here since the beginning” and they said “uh, oh sorry here is the free exclusive cosmetic”
radiant sleet
The one where you get the skull bandana n shit
Thank you very much, I was becoming insane trying to figure this out.
Finally I have a skin for deimos that keeps the cool anchor tip. I hate that I had to pay for it, but such is life.
midnight jolt
yeah, I got the game free but paid €12 for the imperial edition which gave me the camo set + 2500 aquilas
rare arrow
But it isn’t really exclusive as console could buy it and everyone on PC got it
rare arrow
everyone who played between Nov 12th and 17th got the vanguard cosmetics
It was anyone who played on pc before 11/17
Not those 5 days specifically
vocal cliff
I wouldn't blame you
rare arrow
Though, mostly because we had been here for a year of missed promises
A class every quarter
New weapons every quarter
vocal cliff
Yeah, having to endure all of that
midnight jolt
Was the trader hat part of a set? I would like that set, is the only thing that makes you look not like weirdo
vocal cliff
Yes
rare arrow
All the things we were promised to have “at launch” and then “by December” and then “before January 2023”
long wharf
but remember all the pearls we clutched
vocal cliff
It's still in the shop but it's the 3rd one meaning it's going away next week (not this week)
rare arrow
but remember all the pearls we clutched
Yea then they said this shit
“Some beta players haven’t spent their Aquila so they can get a set for free”
Like our 2400 Aquila was affecting the market. You’d think they would want to change prices to get those 2400 from anyone who still had them
long wharf
oh, it wasn't even 2400
hot zephyr
Like our 2400 Aquila was affecting the market. You’d think they would want to ch...
they don't actually care about the aquilas tho. That's the thing with premium currencies
long wharf
the Steam Imperial edition came with 2100
midnight jolt
I don't even know how I got them progressed, all I know is that they don't move forward a tiny bit for the last 3~4 days 😦
hot zephyr
Once you bought the currency, it's no refunds
long wharf
remember when FartShack said that aquilas would be earnable in-game before release?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
vocal cliff
That's funny
hot zephyr
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
long wharf
god damn, FartShack is the abusive spouse we all make excuses for
vocal cliff
Considering where we're at now
long wharf
we laugh at each other, pointing out the bruises and lies
and continue rewarding FartShack for their trouble
midnight jolt
we laugh at each other, pointing out the bruises and lies
at each other? you can't promise you are going to pay and get the game for free
long wharf
you misunderstood
midnight jolt
I got it, but was limiting the relationship 😂
long wharf
we laugh at each other's co-dependent behavior
"everything in the premium cosmetics shop is too expensive"
"that shit's just a recolor/kitbash"
"they raised the price of sets and removed items from the sets!"
continues to buy premium cosmetics
I am that abused spouse
midnight jolt
I don't even bother, when you make cosmetic that expensive, all you do is making me buy just one, and one that has to impress me
long wharf
uh, I've tossed a lot more money at Darktide than my initial purchase, which was the Imperial edition
midnight jolt
I'll keep telling myself I like the ~~militarily ~~ mercenary looking of the imperial set until I die 😂
radiant frigate
I don't even know how I got them progressed, all I know is that they don't move ...
maintaining warp charges now unfortunately implies not pressing F
very unfortunate
midnight jolt
if you don't press F, your teammates will type F in your grave 😂
midnight jolt
is there an advise for the brightness, I find myself not seen the enemies properly in certain areas, not sure if is contrast or what
steep estuary
Thanks Hadron
ornate hamlet
Methinks I kept the default brightness
midnight jolt
Gamma or something
ornate hamlet
My monitor settings are 50 contrast, 100 brightness, gamma2 and DCR turned off
If yours has something like that
The colours are 54, 53, 45 on RGB
But of course, there's accounting for monitors possibly being different and having different results for the same settings
radiant frigate
Did you come to dark these tides of non-vermin, Kat?
Perhaps
midnight jolt
is a Dell GSync monitor, is very true to dark colors, etc
radiant frigate
most of all i just wanted to see if i was banished from this realm too
midnight jolt
but it makes some games look really dark
long wharf
what'd you do to get yourself banned?
ornate hamlet
What do you mean "banished too"?
radiant frigate
i was banished from the rat dimension
ornate hamlet
Holy shit, we're getting Vermintide Discord lore
steep estuary
😮
vocal cliff
DEEP
LORE
queen fog
Deep?
radiant frigate
banished because someone dug up a two week old line that reads like a joke
radiant frigate
usually thought that you would be notified first but it appears i just got axed
long wharf
no you didn't
steep estuary
Wat. Also why is the vermintide discord a deep lore topic? owo
long wharf
it really isn't
steep estuary
o
ornate hamlet
Oh
vocal cliff
No I just said deep lore because I just wanted to
ornate hamlet
I remember when I got into an argument with a moderator on the Killing Floor 2 server because some guy that didn't like me dug up a joke and reported it
vocal cliff
Most things I say lack reason
queen fog
No I just said deep lore because I just wanted to
Just like how I posted deep rock galactic gif because I wanted to
radiant frigate
i was also banished for "other offensive messages in my chat history"
whatever that means
queen fog
It is a common urge no worries
ornate hamlet
Ah yes, the old "etc."
vocal cliff
End times
ornate hamlet
Don't worry, it's a staple
steep estuary
Psyker go Hee hee hoo hoo explodes
ornate hamlet
When it's time for you to get banned, the straws are grasped like it was judo sparring
radiant frigate
blows up mind with mind
ornate hamlet
Turns out when you get banned, your chat history magically happens to have a billion bannable things that justify a permaban
steep estuary
True
long wharf
you know what the alternative is, right?
radiant frigate
gulag?
long wharf
to not say things that are bannable offenses
steep estuary
Just never speak tbh
ornate hamlet
You'll be pleased to know psyker has a watered down Saltzpyre rapier and a watered down waystalker ability
steep estuary
Eck, lets see what brunt has in 3 minutes, then groceries
radiant frigate
except it is not actually an unchained ult
but rather a big long frontal cone
surprisingly long range and set things on fire, which potentially spreads
very good button
see any amount of baddies --> press f --> cackle maniacally
steep estuary
TRUE
near wyvern
You'll be pleased to know psyker has a watered down Saltzpyre rapier and a water...
Assail + Duelling Sword MK4 + revolver and you are pretty close to that rapier playstyle
radiant frigate
cue the "fraggin' hel, witch, you're scaring me" and "might be more polite to psyker in future" lines
steep estuary
Does something good "Omg, I no longer hate your existence wholeheartedly"
radiant frigate
tfw atonement is not yet yours
ornate hamlet
ACCIDENT OR SKILL, WITCH?
long wharf
it'll never be yours, according to the zealot
steep estuary
Oh wow brunt, this is all bad
queen fog
ACCIDENT OR SKILL, WITCH?
COMPLIMENTS ONLY MEAN SOMETHING FROM PROFESSIONALS!
radiant frigate
have i then earned respect, fanatic?
near wyvern
ACCIDENT OR SKILL, WITCH?
Many happy little accidents
radiant frigate
you should take notes, roughneck :)
long wharf
Many happy little accidents
when do we get to the "beat the devil out of it" parts?
radiant frigate
the freak wreaks havoc! likely out of error!
is probably my favorite of the bunch
hot zephyr
I still remember when I got my frenzied killer achievement and I procced both the zealot and vet to soil themselves at the same time
120 kills in 30s, no biggie for psyker.
long wharf
sounds about right for the Imperium
flint plover
I need to work on my mass murder
nah that's common in america
hot zephyr
I need to work on my mass murder
Just use the "of heretics" qualifier and you're good
earnest laurel
is the chance for level 4 blessings lower than 3 2 1, and so on?
long wharf
the system is a bit more nuanced than that
not only do individual blessings have varying odds, your chances for high tier blessings (and perks) is influenced by the current item level
hot zephyr
is the chance for level 4 blessings lower than 3 2 1, and so on?
IIRC, higher level items have a better chance at higher tier blessings when consecrated.
long wharf
the higher your item level compared to the maximum current possible item level, the better odds for higher tier perks and blessings
steep estuary
100% stats when?
earnest laurel
Im just trying to get surge or whatever its called for voidstrike, the 2 on crit one
long wharf
nobody knows, not even FartShack
earnest laurel
Ive done like 20 staffs now
long wharf
surge is t4 only , and a rare t4 on top of that
steep estuary
Never seen a surge yet
echo frigate
Ive done like 20 staffs now
I bought mine from Melks after 2 months or so
earnest laurel
I bought mine from Melks after 2 months or so
I saw one right when I had already bought something -_-
long wharf
I've been playing since open beta, and I didn't get surge blessing for void until 3 months ago
hot zephyr
Im just trying to get surge or whatever its called for voidstrike, the 2 on crit...
Farming surge is hard because you need high base level items to increase your odds of rolling it. It's easier to just farm melk-bucks and then buy a void from him that already has it just for the blessing
earnest laurel
I think Ill just put something else on my staff
long wharf
best way to get t4 blessings is to buy well-rolled grays and greens
360+ modifiers, if gray then upgrade to green
earnest laurel
best way to get t4 blessings is to buy well-rolled grays and greens
Been somewhat doing that, but money is an issue, because I am bouncing from build to build on all characters
radiant frigate
Farming surge is hard because you need high base level items to increase your od...
nice to see that others also call that currency "melkbucks"
hot zephyr
I think Ill just put something else on my staff
The neat thing is you can always rebless later, since you can always modify whatever isn't locked. Use nexus or transfer or whatever for now, then switch to surge when you get it.
long wharf
if perk isn't t4, roll that to a t4 perk
echo frigate
best way to get t4 blessings is to buy well-rolled grays and greens
You want high BST and not care if damage is 4% right? You just need a 350 or so
long wharf
then upgrade to blue
echo frigate
nice to see that others also call that currency "melkbucks"
Melkbucks is the only name
steep estuary
I prefer milkies to melkbucks
steep estuary
Milkies for sour milk
steep estuary
From and for ig
radiant frigate
melkbucks are the best way to get curios imo
250 for a chance at an orange with maybe one stat you want and you're good to go
echo frigate
melkbucks are the best way to get curios imo
Unless you like Brunt gambling but most of the time yes
Like 90%
long wharf
I have never seen a curio at Sour Milk's that was worth the Milkies
steep estuary
True, the two curios from brunt can be good, but milk has better ones most of the time.
long wharf
best thing you can do for curios is to buy some at Brunts
hot zephyr
I have never seen a curio at Sour Milk's that was worth the Milkies
He means from the random buy for 200 or 250 or whatever.
long wharf
and then upgrade them
god no!
never gamble with Milkies
absolute waste of a time-gated resource
echo frigate
I have never seen a curio at Sour Milk's that was worth the Milkies
Rlly? That seems hard to believe but maybe I got better curio luck and worse weapon luck
steep estuary
I got a good voidstrike from a 200 milk gamble
steep estuary
It didnt last long bc I easily got better ones but still
long wharf
now that emperor's gifts are guaranteed, just grab any old curio and slap chance-to-get-curio on there
earnest laurel
Is warp nexus , and blazing spirit ok on voidstrike?
radiant frigate
never gamble with Milkies
i almost exclusively used melkbucks to spam random curios
echo frigate
I got a good voidstrike from a 200 milk gamble
You like the dopamine high
earnest laurel
like together
steep estuary
I have had gambling problems in the past
long wharf
Is warp nexus , and blazing spirit ok on voidstrike?
it's a meme
hot zephyr
All of my curios are from regular shop, just waited patiently for blue ones with top tier stat + one level four good perk
echo frigate
like together
Fire void
long wharf
and everything that you'd want to apply soulblaze to dies from the void hit anyways
it's really not a good combination
steep estuary
I also rarely see anything I particularly like from milk so I basically use the gamble to turn milkies into ordies
echo frigate
Voidstrike shoots bolter shots
ornate hamlet
Lord Sire Master Darius Melkius
radiant frigate
All of my curios are from regular shop, just waited patiently for blue ones with...
unfortunately there was The Big Fire Change™ which prompted me to run triple bomber/flamer/gunner DR
so i needed one of them as a default roll
ornate hamlet
Don't worry, that went away
long wharf
if you do want to try soulblaze void, you'll want to max blast radius
radiant frigate
because the crafting system is asinine
earnest laurel
So what should I put on my voidstrike. I have maniacs , and carapace on it already. So what blessings.
long wharf
even though the range is short, [2,4]
ornate hamlet
You can do toughness spam again
radiant frigate
surge nexus usually
earnest laurel
No surge
radiant frigate
Don't worry, that went away
wdym went away
ornate hamlet
They made fire not melt your toughness with its massive ticks
A turbonerf if you will
radiant frigate
well i do know it got nerfed by like half after it turned into differently flavored instakill juice
ornate hamlet
Yeah
echo frigate
Now fire just fries you after toughness
hot zephyr
wdym went away
They reduced how quickly fire stacks up now. You have like 2 seconds to get out of fire now before your toughness is gone
ornate hamlet
I just run toughness, gunner/sniper and some flavour of stamina regen and block efficiency
vocal cliff
Pretty balanced now tbh
radiant frigate
perhaps i should then run funny sniper DR so it doesn't chunk my health if i forget to move my feet
vocal cliff
Not infuriating as the lose all toughness if you even TOUCH it or say goodbye to your fucking health
radiant frigate
oopsie daisy, dipped a toe in the instakill juice
now i have to get in the forever box
ornate hamlet
Ideally you get 2 gunner resist because it really fucking sucks to get your movement screwed by one and you keep getting slapped because you're struggling to move out of the shots
long wharf
it's kind of nice that toughness doesn't just evaporate in fire, but the health damage right now is ridiculous
radiant frigate
imagine taking health damage
ornate hamlet
vocal cliff
I only take mental damage
hot zephyr
I run: Health/Wound/Stam curios, then the following nine perks:
2x % Health
2x % Toughness
2x % Gunner Resistance
2x % Block Efficiency
1x % Toughness Regeneration Speed
I find this gives a good balance of things to improve defenses
radiant frigate
i don't always take health damage, but when i do, it's at least 3 quarters of my hp
vocal cliff
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1h9tqKQ9lc96gH/d1337oWY3E5...
That was so fucking funny
radiant frigate
i run 3x toughness 3x gunner DR 3x flamer 3x bomber atm
pondering 2x flamer 2x bomber 2x sniper
long wharf
I run stamina regen, ordo dockets, and then 1 sniper, 1 gunner, 1 mutant
ornate hamlet
That was so fucking funny
vocal cliff
I do have a mutant one on mine but I was stuck with it
Helps tho because those steroid enthusiasts won't leave me alone
steep estuary
I like running toughness, health, and wound. Stam is nice but like I just feel like health is good to have
radiant frigate
https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-1324055024924795...
was that one of those "ranged weapon superglued to hand" situations
vocal cliff
Honestly I've had that experience
radiant frigate
i feel like psyker absolutely does not need block efficiency because you have kinetic deflection
hot zephyr
I find psyker has enough flat toughness nodes (+15) in the talent tree you don't need toughness curios
vocal cliff
Tried to fight a Reaper with a dueling sword
ornate hamlet
Basically you can't charge a shot when you're getting interrupted
vocal cliff
It was followed by and I quote
hot zephyr
If you get 3-4 of them you have 105/120 base toughness
radiant frigate
I find psyker has enough flat toughness nodes (+15) in the talent tree you don't...
i only say one thing to this, and it's Guh
vocal cliff
"oh OH OW OW OW OWW NO" then I went down
ornate hamlet
Fatshark
vocal cliff
I got pinned into a corner by him because I for some reason thought melee could stun him
radiant frigate
i find it remarkably foolish not to run max toughness always
vocal cliff
It was range
steep estuary
With the toughness nodes and my curios I end up with like 150 or so toughness
ornate hamlet
I aim for like 170 toughness and the rest is extra
radiant frigate
I get by just fine with 90 toughness
do you partake in glorious melee combat
vocal cliff
I'm fine with...I think I currently have 167
long wharf
the greatest danger in all of Atoma is ... me
radiant frigate
better question, where did your stats go
long wharf
especially when I call upon the warp a touch too much
ornate hamlet
What left tree psyker do to a mf
hot zephyr
i only say one thing to this, and it's Guh
My setup normally gives me around 130 toughness and over 210 health, a third wound for when teammates revive you in a bad spot, and enough stam and block eff you slow any peril gen from it considerably
long wharf
do you partake in glorious melee combat
I stab many things, yes
steep estuary
Someone remind me later to take a shot of my build for critiquing
ornate hamlet
No
mighty olive
especially when I call upon the warp a touch too much
Then you're just a bit gassy xD
radiant frigate
you must like to live dangerously
long wharf
Then you're just a bit gassy xD
I do enjoy eating, yes
vocal cliff
I stab many things, yes
Gutterunners:
radiant frigate
when their backs turn, we go..
long wharf
I have ~230 health
radiant frigate
but why
long wharf
because I can?
radiant frigate
when you can have toughness instead
now that there is no more instakill juice
why not have more toughness instead
long wharf
there are still good reasons to not try to tank up toughness
radiant frigate
what are these reasons, genuinely curious
long wharf
the first is - there are a lot of enemy attacks that do more toughness damage than health damage
steep estuary
Here I am thinking 152 T, 250 hp is good
radiant frigate
indeed, but you should still aim to protect your health, with your toughness
long wharf
second is psykers have more health than toughness at baseline, which means the larger health % go even further
radiant frigate
second is psykers have more health than toughness at baseline, which means the l...
everyone does
hot zephyr
indeed, but you should still aim to protect your health, with your toughness
Toughness isn't a shield. It's % damage reduction. So you will take chip damage even when you still have toughness in your bar
long wharf
third is what Taeritimus just said
radiant frigate
Toughness isn't a shield. It's % damage reduction. So you will take chip damage ...
it is a shield vs ranged fire
hot zephyr
it is a shield vs ranged fire
No it is not. If you are below 100 toughness, you will take health chip damage
long wharf
I use Empathic Evasion in every build
long wharf
No it is not. If you are below 100 toughness, you will take health chip damage
you're wrong here
ornate hamlet
Ranged attacks deal full toughness damage
wind spruce
No it is not. If you are below 100 toughness, you will take health chip damage
Not vs ranged fire.
radiant frigate
No it is not. If you are below 100 toughness, you will take health chip damage
i.. really doubt that
ornate hamlet
Only melee attacks bleed through
long wharf
ranged damage doesn't chip health
regardless, EE lets me worry less about ranged attacks
as well as smart level positioning
and using teammates as meat shields
steep estuary
peak kelp
I was hit by a poxwalker with no toughness and I swear it did 70% of my health
is this a bug or something
radiant frigate
"position better" is always a good idea, but sometimes you simply end up in bad positions
midnight jolt
is there any myth or info on just learning blessings so your chances to get unique blessings on rewards is increased? is that a thing?
long wharf
you got hit from behind, most likely
wind spruce
I was hit by a poxwalker with no toughness and I swear it did 70% of my health
That's normal. There damage is cooked
midnight jolt
on that note I put 2 toughness and 1 health, feels balanced like that
ornate hamlet
Anyway, toughness arguments:
- You get more toughness nodes than health on the tree
- It regenerates on its own within coherency
- It regenerates with many choices of talents
- No bleedthrough from ranged attacks
- The talent tree also provides toughness damage reduction nodes
long wharf
I like the QoL I get from having a +3 stamina curio
hot zephyr
I was hit by a poxwalker with no toughness and I swear it did 70% of my health
When you have no toughness, you take full hits as health damage, and enemies HURT! You go down in 2-3 swings with no toughness even from 200+ health pretty easily.
vocal cliff
"position better" is always a good idea, but sometimes you simply end up in bad ...
Especially when the director spills its favorite toys all over the board
wind spruce
- 3 stam is incredible
ornate hamlet
I run 2 toughness and 1 health with toughness perks and gunner/sniper DR
radiant frigate
Anyway, toughness arguments:
- You get more toughness nodes than health on the t...
health arguments:
big number
ornate hamlet
bigue namba
long wharf
having more health also helps when you start taking corruption damage
like some idiot picks up a grim
radiant frigate
when i see 500 health ogryns with 100 toughness i die a little inside
vocal cliff
I only have one health but I could definitely turn it into toughness
if I had better ones
peak kelp
playing psyker feels so fragile
long wharf
or the director sneaks a poxburster into you
midnight jolt
I run 2 toughness and 1 health with toughness perks and gunner/sniper DR
gunnery, toughness regen and block efficiency
vocal cliff
Seriously FS please let curios be acc wide I want my vets 4 toughness 17%
radiant frigate
isn't toughness regen literally just the coherency passive regen
vocal cliff
It's not fair
long wharf
toughness regen is a lot less important now that we have reliable ways of getting toughness back
radiant frigate
worthless stat then
long wharf
which is why I switched my curios to stamina regen
hot zephyr
Anyway, toughness arguments:
- You get more toughness nodes than health on the t...
Health keeps you alive, when I used to run tough/tough/stam as curios, I was made of glass compared to the health/wound/stam setup I use now.
wind spruce
isn't toughness regen literally just the coherency passive regen
Yes, but it also reduces the time before that regen kicks in still massively overrated
ornate hamlet
Health:
- Bigger wounds
- Corruption is a flat value
- Helps against shit that eats through your toughness, like sniper shots and poxbursters
- Gives you more leeway on chip damage
midnight jolt
which is why I switched my curios to stamina regen
not a bad idea, toughness regen, stamina regen and block efficiency, feels like what I want
steep estuary
Is toughness damage reduction % worthwhile?
hot zephyr
Yeah, I must admit that post patch 13 health curios got much better
ornate hamlet
I am glad I started using 1 health curio tbh
long wharf
toughness DR is always worthwhile
vocal cliff
TDR is typically nice to go for
radiant frigate
toughness regen used to be *much* better
as in, the Obligatory Health Regeneration Cover Break (with friends)™?
long wharf
it stacks additively with itself
vocal cliff
It's why things like iron will are so good
wind spruce
Is toughness damage reduction % worthwhile?
Don't waste spare talent points on it.
hot zephyr
You don't need to STACK health, but you should probably have at least 1 health curio
vocal cliff
Actually that might be an unfair example
long wharf
which is how veterans can get crazy toughness DR
steep estuary
Just that the psyker tree has like a dozen 5% ones
radiant frigate
toughness DR is fantastic because sometimes that poxburster doesn't actually bonk through to apply corruption
very nice
long wharf
Don't waste spare talent points on it.
I'd argue the opposite of this
wind spruce
which is how veterans can get crazy toughness DR
It only stacks additively FROM THE SAME SOURCE
radiant frigate
It only stacks additively FROM THE SAME SOURCE
so what
long wharf
if you have a spare point, grab a toughness DR node
radiant frigate
makes toughness last longer
long wharf
absolutely
radiant frigate
is good
vocal cliff
Just that the psyker tree has like a dozen 5% ones
They're helpful
steep estuary
Gotcha
radiant frigate
anything that extends the lifespan of your toughness is good
wind spruce
Eg if you have 20% from flat talent nodes and 20% from scriers
long wharf
that said, I just about never have a spare point for my builds
wind spruce
You get 36% TDR
radiant frigate
okay but that's still good
steep estuary
What do the stamina bars mean anywho? Blocks?
wind spruce
I'd rather spend spare points on extra toughness
radiant frigate
not exactly mutually exclusive
midnight jolt
maybe this is what I should run on my curios:
Tough R, Tough R, Sta R
Sta R, Gun R, Gun R
Block E, Block E, Snip R
I see
long wharf
also, if you take Kinetic Deflection, your maximum stamina is a part of the block cost calculation
wind spruce
Every psyker should be running a +3 stam curio. It makes kinetic deflection more efficient.
If you take 25% peril from an attack with KD on a duelling sword
Add +3 stam and that peril generated goes down to 10%
Because maths.
steep estuary
I use deflector and KD with a deimos rn
radiant frigate
also, if you take Kinetic Deflection, your maximum stamina is a part of the bloc...
what, why
long wharf
for peril block cost, a +3 stamina curio is as good as getting +25% block cost reduction
because it is
radiant frigate
thanks fatshark, that makes zero sense
long wharf
¯_(ツ)_/¯
wind spruce
long wharf
that was 3 months ago, but I'm pretty sure it still applies
I could go look at the code again, but I really dislike digging through that much Lua
wind spruce
It still applies
steep estuary
Does that dodge talent still not work? I see my dodge count went up and they do feel longer
wind spruce
I made it 3 months ago but was testing some things with it again last week
long wharf
good to know
ornate hamlet
I can't be assed to screenshot a peril meter
radiant frigate
full of peril
radiant frigate
I made it 3 months ago but was testing some things with it again last week
curious, might consider trying for a +stam force sword
radiant frigate
i do have one but it's a deimos
long wharf
Oops All Warp Demons
wind spruce
All force swords have 3 stamina base right?
Yes
tawny pebble
how many toughnes regen speed curio perks are worth it?
radiant frigate
0
wind spruce
0
long wharf
0
tawny pebble
roger
radiant frigate
glad to see we at least agree on that
tawny pebble
thank you for acknowledging the only correct source
is toughness% worth it then? or equally ridiculous?
radiant frigate
more toughness more gooder
vocal cliff
I should try gunpsyker
radiant frigate
protect your health, protect yourself
vocal cliff
Only kind of psyker I haven't tried
ornate hamlet
Reddit moment
tawny pebble
well i didn't fuck up on both counts then
long wharf
you can make an argument for +5% toughness not being as good as gunner resistance
wind spruce
is toughness% worth it then? or equally ridiculous?
Far more contentious.
long wharf
or sniper resistance
vocal cliff
Reddit moment
"useless" bro is probably that one malice player that spams assail and forgets he has 2 other weapons
long wharf
I like stamina regen and ordo dockets on all my curios
vocal cliff
I don't like smitebots
radiant frigate
assail is fun sometimes but Eh
vocal cliff
The ones who just ONLY smite
long wharf
we had a really lengthy chat in here about smite yesterday
tawny pebble
yeah
radiant frigate
smite is like
long wharf
smite is 95% misused
tawny pebble
i like siblings that tactically smite and switch to staff or melee
vocal cliff
If you smite but also kill shit then you're fine to me
ornate hamlet
I don't like smitebots
Guess which one he is
long wharf
most players sit on smite as if it's helping the team when it's not
midnight jolt
so 5% toughness good on curios? if I were to replace toughness speed by that right?
radiant frigate
channel this thing that does some damage but mostly your teammates just get to click bad men for free
vocal cliff
Guess which one he is
Hmm
ornate hamlet
I think he's the wheelchair word ♿
long wharf
probably
vocal cliff
Yeah
long wharf
he regularly wears special head protection
radiant frigate
he regularly wears special head protection
standard issue for most psykers
tawny pebble
so 5% toughness good on curios? if I were to replace toughness speed by that rig...
seems so
radiant frigate
lore accurate
long wharf
standard issue for most psykers
sadly
ornate hamlet
Meanwhile I just slapped smite on my right tree build and roll with it
long wharf
if I don't care what blitz I have, I go through smite
ornate hamlet
standard issue for most psykers
standard-issue issue
long wharf
because that allows me to get juicy nodes on either side
radiant frigate
you have a handheld deathstick
steep estuary
Gotta be like palpatine up in here
I was surprised how hard psyker melee can go tbh
radiant frigate
illisi does indeed go hard
long wharf
I was surprised how hard psyker melee can go tbh
all comes down to which melee weapon you roll with
Illisi is amazing against the horde
tawny pebble
legitimately once i finally saw the light of +25% unyielding i've been dropping heretic ogryn faster than the zealots
long wharf
ds4/deimos is great against hard targets
vocal cliff
I like dueling sword
dusk violet
is shred available to illisi? I've been doing lots of consecrating to get shred 4 but no luck 😦
vocal cliff
Closest I'll get to a rapier
steep estuary
I need to try a good illisi, deimos just feels solid with its stabs. I like watching a crusher fall over lmao
tawny pebble
i believe it is @dusk violet
vocal cliff
Uh
radiant frigate
when you can get slaughterer
long wharf
I run slaughterer+deflector on my Illisi
radiant frigate
why yes i would like 40% power, that seems incredibly balanced
tawny pebble
i got stuck with executioner or w/e
and have been trying to get hadron to give me slaughterer since
radiant frigate
i run slaughterer/uncanny
tawny pebble
ah, an edger
steep estuary
Uncanny huh
radiant frigate
Yes
steep estuary
Nice
vocal cliff
And deflector
radiant frigate
because fuck armored heads
vocal cliff
Not sure if I have any slaughterer
radiant frigate
deflector i genuinely find pointless
unless you intend to facetank a daemonhost with funny block cost reduction
midnight jolt
with stuff like emphatic evasion, is useless
radiant frigate
but like, don't wake the daemonhost
tawny pebble
it can be clutch if you truly can't find any cover and for some reason aren't good at repeat salvo dodging
radiant frigate
with stuff like emphatic evasion, is useless
even without, it is mostly pointless
steep estuary
I enjoy deflector for the occasional situation. Shotgtnners, gunners, and stuff just out of reach
vocal cliff
unless you intend to facetank a daemonhost with funny block cost reduction
If gunners are trying to make me their bitch and I unfortunately get caught out of position I like to have it
radiant frigate
it can be clutch if you truly can't find any cover and for some reason aren't go...
shoot back, soulstealer goes hard
radiant frigate
If gunners are trying to make me their bitch and I unfortunately get caught out ...
run 150+ toughness and triple gunner DR
countershoot them
steep estuary
Deflector is like a backup option, not a go-to
vocal cliff
Genius
tawny pebble
shoot back, soulstealer goes hard
i usually am able to gap close and purg M1 them out of the bullet stream
queen fog
Make it a go-to, become shield psyker
serene cosmos
anyone here wanna help me to do ''Cliffhanger'' penance?
vocal cliff
Actually idek how much toughness I have
vocal cliff
I never even bothered checking
radiant frigate
bullets legally cannot enter your body without going through toughness first
queen fog
Why waste precious toughness when I can waste precious stamina instead
vocal cliff
I the I have one but only because I accidentally put on two sniper
radiant frigate
Why waste precious toughness when I can waste precious stamina instead
you propose running? excellent idea
vocal cliff
Lemme check
long wharf
all bullets must have properly filed warrants to enter your body without permission
queen fog
you propose running? excellent idea
No I propose reflectoring straight into them
radiant frigate
No I propose reflectoring straight into them
foolish
ornate hamlet
Once I have been proposed to use rampage and shred and abandon uncanny strike on dueling sword
queen fog
foolish
Call me foolish all u wish ima still block shooter fire for no reason when covers right there
steep estuary
Tbh at lower difficulties you can just walk around with deflector up a lot and have zero issues. Free peril generation lol
radiant frigate
Call me foolish all u wish ima still block shooter fire for no reason when cover...
assert dominance
ornate hamlet
I still need to try that out, because there's always the chance I severely overestimated uncanny strike
radiant frigate
I still need to try that out, because there's always the chance I severely overe...
non-uncanny dueling sword kinda sad
uncanny dueling sword is very nice
ornate hamlet
But at the same time it does help spamming lights on those asshole dreg bruisers and their girly flak helmet
tawny pebble
dueling sword all about weakspot
radiant frigate
2-shot crushers at full stacks
ornate hamlet
Hopefully I can roll a maniac and shred
radiant frigate
shred
ornate hamlet
Then I can switch the second perk and blessing around
radiant frigate
E
ornate hamlet
Try rampage and carapace, and go back to something else if it doesn't work as I'd like
tawny pebble
i have gunner/sniper resist, any third resist y'all recommend or doubling up on?
ornate hamlet
Double up on gunner tbh
ornate hamlet
The diminishing returns don't kick in too hard on the second
radiant frigate
universally useful
tawny pebble
now that i think on it i have done pretty well with dodging sniper fire of late
radiant frigate
I just want nice clothes
unfortunately not the right class for that
i wish psyker cosmetics didn't suck!!
also, which ones in particular
steep estuary
Is it just me or are snipers decently easy to dodge?
radiant frigate
they are decently easy to dodge
quiet pumice
also, which ones in particular
Warp battery is biting my ass
tawny pebble
i wish psyker cosmetics didn't suck!!
the ice mourn set from last rotation is great imo
minus the silly headgear
radiant frigate
Warp battery is biting my ass
annoying with the new warp charges i imagine
radiant frigate
the ice mourn set from last rotation is great imo
what does it look like
does it have silly tubes
quiet pumice
Yeah, gonna have to get a squad together to do it
tawny pebble
queen fog
does it have silly tubes
I got black navigator drip that got tubes
tawny pebble
maybe the headdress did but i didn't spend aquilas on that
this coat drippy as fuck
queen fog
Even does the voice change thingy
quiet pumice
Keep getting the elite/specialists kills stolen when I need them
vocal cliff
Alright I got
142
tawny pebble
Keep getting the elite/specialists kills stolen when I need them
yyyep
radiant frigate
in The Before Times™
quiet pumice
Holding 4 warp charges for 5 minutes is stupid asf
radiant frigate
idk play purgatus or something
vocal cliff
But that's only because my toughness curios are add
radiant frigate
flamerize everything you see
vocal cliff
Ass
quiet pumice
And the more I read the penances the more I realise how shit most of them are
quiet pumice
I got really close one game running purge staff but lost my stack
tawny pebble
i hate keystones
are they underwhelming, or do you think they pigeonhole you into a certain kind of optimal play
radiant frigate
are they underwhelming, or do you think they pigeonhole you into a certain kind ...
underwhelming, as i do not pick any
queen fog
Never picked or choose not to pick 
radiant frigate
not on psyker anyhow
zealot keystones are good
ogryn (ugh) has a good one but that's ogryn
tawny pebble
and...poor veteran
radiant frigate
vet keystones exist, much like psyker
i guess weapon specialist is kinda cool
but also meh
tawny pebble
i will say that's the best one
it enables me to BB things behind cover with only a teensy hole in it that the Vet themselves can't get
and yes, zealots love you
faint pier
Does Assail have a bad habit of periling out at high percentages for everyone else or is that just desync?
I'll be at 80% peril, fire once, peril out
faint pier
Happened four times in one mission
faint pier
I don't even see myself fire the justified extra time to cause me to peril out
I'd understand if I was just being bad and not paying attention, which has happened
but I've been specifically trying to be careful and getting punished anyways
ornate hamlet
One recommendation is installing the true peril mod
faint pier
will do
ornate hamlet
I'd get randomly shafted by using brain burst at 97% in older patches, despite 97% being the safe zone
So it's possible the game was at 98% and telling me I was at 97%
But 80% is really weird
You're meant to be able to fling an assail dart so long as you're not at 100
radiant frigate
you should be able to fling a nice cool flagon of ale
midnight jolt
what's the point of 3 currencies? we are always out of plasteel no matter what
one of them should be removed
radiant frigate
imagine if diamantine was able to be traded for plasteel
midnight jolt
just ordocks and plasteel, call it a day
ornate hamlet
I've been running Damnation a bit as a Psyker - any reason I should use a melee against mutants instead of just brain bursting them?
radiant frigate
I've been running Damnation a bit as a Psyker - any reason I should use a melee ...
your melee may trigger brain burst and instantly kill it together with your actual melee hit
plus, mutie jousting never gets old
also depends on your melee choice
dueling sword does good damage
should 2-tap on solid hits
charged deimos can onetap with the light thrust
ornate hamlet
So far my melee choice is non-existent. I spam left click Purgatus staff to keep enemies staggered and brain burst anything bigger than hordes
radiant frigate
illisi 2-tap with charged heavies
ornate hamlet
Ahh interesting. I've heard dueling sword is a good one to focus on next
midnight jolt
dueling sword also has an unique special, it staggers crushers and you can heavy their head, is really pleasant to use
in the head of course
radiant frigate
yeah but deimos has a funnier heavy 2
the deimos heavy thrust sends crushers to the floor on a headshot
not just stagger
they become horizontal
and it is funny as hell
tawny pebble
trauma staff obsolete smh
midnight jolt
the problem with it is you are locked in animation while doing that
tawny pebble
i don't think they meant the special on deimos, just heavy attack 2
radiant frigate
yeah just heavy 2
the special is mostly Huh?
just use it like a dueling sword except it has force sword pushes
tawny pebble
which honestly, terrifying that a mere heavy attack can put an ogryn on the ground
tawny pebble
now that i think about it, deimos is really good at dealing with big boys like that
radiant frigate
that is what it is for yes
tawny pebble
force block pushing a bulwark shield never ceases to be satisfying
rare arrow
now that i think about it, deimos is really good at dealing with big boys like t...
DS4 is better for dealing with the things Deimos does
radiant frigate
DS4 is better for dealing with the things Deimos does
yeah but magic sword
tawny pebble
sometimes you just wanna be a magical boy
quiet pumice
yeah but magic sword
Can’t argue with that
rare arrow
yeah but magic sword
This is the entire reason I don’t play gunker
I’m a fucking space wizard, guns are for zealots and vets
tawny pebble
agreed
i've been getting better with my aim and ammo consumption
but dammit i am a psyker
being interdisciplinary is for a Librarian or something idk
radiant frigate
your bullets are somewhat magical
flint plover
aw thank you
radiant frigate
they can cause heads to explode
flint plover
yours too
brisk grove
i think the psykers can do that without bullets
queen fog
Psykers can do many things without bullets
thankfully we have the freedom of choice
So u can see a mix of both
brisk grove
what if you cast brain burst on a bullet as it traveled through the air
queen fog
That’s the modifier to the blitz lowkey, just without the percent gambling
dreamy sinew
I use my clairvoyance to shoot gooder
o7
opaque charm
I'm at max peril time for boolet
radiant frigate
For me is I’m at max peril time for melee
it's always melee time
convert to the church of illisi
not so bad if you can click heads
slightly worse than slaughterer but probably good enough
queen fog
convert to the church of illisi
Maybe, but I’ll miss funny head stab on mutants to merk em
A reasonable sacrifice for psyker’s power sword
radiant frigate
Maybe, but I’ll miss funny head stab on mutants to merk em
you can instead do funny charged heavy into heavy
queen fog
Seems like a good alternative, I’ll consider it sibling thank u
midnight jolt
I can't use Illisi, I get take over my Zealot spirit 😂
queen fog
Oh the swipes just that cool? Got ya
I’ve only given the other 2 force swords a shot, the obc one cuz it was the only one at the time of my leveling of psyker
Makes me glad we got more options 
midnight jolt
My melee experiments 😉
queen fog
That knife looks sexy
midnight jolt
Don't mind its mobility, it doesn't really need it
rare arrow
Yea that’s how he felt
I don’t value the ‘more sweepy’ attacks and I find the mk3 to be easier to land
So I’ve always preferred the mk3
The one thing mk6 does better with the sweepy attacks isn’t kill hordes but stack uncanny faster
rare arrow
Though admittedly I didn’t give the push attack on mo6 a lot of try
midnight jolt
I'm new so I'm still learning
rare arrow
So if it’s insane or something then maybe my mind could be changed
In a lot of situations it’s preference
It’s ok to start where people say is best but try everything
Sometimes it’s like dueling swords where 4 is just the best
midnight jolt
Resources are a problem
rare arrow
But other times they are laterals and it’s preference
rare arrow
Resources are a problem
Always
jolly vale
Hey so do we have any new weapons or is it just the other classes
rare arrow
Specifically plasteel
midnight jolt
Remove diamantine, increase plasteel gains, there is no need for 3 currencies
rare arrow
Hey so do we have any new weapons or is it just the other classes
New as if when
queen fog
Hey so do we have any new weapons or is it just the other classes
The “new” junk is actually pretty shared between most the operators
rare arrow
Remove diamantine, increase plasteel gains, there is no need for 3 currencies
I’ve said forever and will continue to say
queen fog
I.e the new revolver, chainsword
rare arrow
Let us spend dia to modify the stats of weapons
midnight jolt
or that ^^
rare arrow
Kills so many birds
Fixes the dia issue
And the crafting issue which are two of the biggest complaints
Set caps for weapons to 80 and 380 so it ca t be better but can be modified up to the maximum
Would also allow for some crazy customization as now we could calculate exactly how much of some stats are needed and hit all of our breakpoints/threshold
jolly vale
Ah i see the new stub and chainsword, i was hoping we had something unique cause i saw one of the classes using something different like a big gold laser beam
Might have been the vet
rare arrow
Ah i see the new stub and chainsword, i was hoping we had something unique cause...
A laser beam?
I’m not familiar unless it’s the plasma gun
But that wasn’t good
Gold
jolly vale
Like a destiny 2 linear fusion rifle
I thought it was gold
Or maybe it was a shotgun
rare arrow
Got a video or something I can watch?
jolly vale
No
jolly vale
The fire shotgun everyone has shoots fire rounds
We have that???????
midnight jolt
Zealots have shotguns
jolly vale
Staves are cool tho
rare arrow
L we have some gunker fanatics in here, they be best to answer
I use guns in my zealot because obv, but not on psyker
rare arrow
Currently rocking the IAG with a knife on my zealot
rare arrow
I just wish i could be soulflame to be remotely viable
What?
jolly vale
Cant get it to do any damage
rare arrow
It is the primary source of damage in a lot of my builds lately
rare arrow
800-1m damage a mission
radiant frigate
soulblaze does plenty of damage
rare arrow
Venting shriek alone stacks damage gast
jolly vale
I often slam alt fire on a single enemy and then the zealots just walks over and shoots one shot and nukes it
jolly vale
Im running the second tier
rare arrow
This is fair
jolly vale
I dont remember the build
radiant frigate
flame trauma is cool but i prefer voidstrike
radiant frigate
this must have been one hell of a long mission
jolly vale
But it was pretty cobbled together
rare arrow
this must have been one hell of a long mission
Two missions in the 35 minute range each
I can check the actual times at home
radiant frigate
powerful
rare arrow
33 mins and like 36 iirc
radiant frigate
was the rest of your team afk then
jolly vale
Oh i remember what i was doing, its been months since i played
rare arrow
was the rest of your team afk then
Usually feels like it lol
Venting alone can easily push 500k of my damage
jolly vale
I was running the shield, but i was contemplating dropping it cause my teammates never use it
radiant frigate
not a fan of the shield personally
rare arrow
The shield is good, but can become a crutch
Like smite
Agreed with Sik. I tailor all my builds to AD or maelstrom
jolly vale
I run exclusively uprising atm
rare arrow
Which is why I have a lot of EP builds, which only shines if there are a lot of elites
jolly vale
Less bs daemon hosts
radiant frigate
i suggest not running face first into daemonhosts
marble crater
Hammer zealots didn't understand that sentence
rare arrow
also, if you take the stamina to peril talent then you can tank DH infinitely
radiant frigate
just because you can doesn't mean you should
jolly vale
Although i have seen ogryn absolutely consume daemonhosts
marble crater
Don't run into them with a pug
jolly vale
What is a crucis build
radiant frigate
it is a type of powered bonking stick
which does insane boss damage with the right setup
rare arrow
What is a crucis build
Zealot hammer
lethal lagoon
Although i have seen ogryn absolutely *consume* daemonhosts
I just straight up pull all DHs on my Ogryn lmao, I don't trust people to avoid em, easier to just grab em when I have aggro and don't have to chase them.
rare arrow
Can one shot DH
radiant frigate
I just straight up pull all DHs on my Ogryn lmao, I don't trust people to avoid ...
thanks i hate it
jolly vale
Oh i was hoping it was a psycher build
lethal lagoon
thanks i hate it
They die in like 20 seconds solo