#psyker-class

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zinc phoenix
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90 base toughness times whatever percent is bullshrimp

mystic burrow
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psykers have lots of ways to burst regen toughness but no way to store all those extra toughness they're getting

magic kayak
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Is uncanny blessing just rare or do the gods hate me?

lethal lagoon
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What kind of cheese though?

zinc phoenix
plucky flax
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It's not rare at all.

long wharf
magic kayak
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then what am I doing wrong lol... I've blessed so many mkiv ds and never gotten uncanny blessing

lethal lagoon
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Ooo like the smell of a cheese tasting, I could go for that

long wharf
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but imagine all the cheese had turned bad

zinc phoenix
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Not having quietude feels dirty and lewd

mystic burrow
rare storm
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Technically cheese is already bad milk

long wharf
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and have been out in the sun for a couple days

rare storm
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So can cheese really be even more bad

lethal lagoon
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Sun-dried? That's fancy

rare storm
long wharf
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and stepped on

zinc phoenix
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Iโ€™ve been gluing quietude to my builds for literally longer than darktide has been released

lethal lagoon
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Adding feet fetish in on top of it?

long wharf
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welp, that's enough for me.

lethal lagoon
tawny pebble
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  • weakspot damage on surge staff is not worth it, right?
long wharf
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nope

vocal cliff
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Why was feet mentioned

long wharf
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+weakspot damage isn't worth it on any weapon

lethal lagoon
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  • weakspot damage perk is not worth it on any weapon thumbsup_ogryn
tawny pebble
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duly noted

mystic burrow
tawny pebble
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thank you hadron

long wharf
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so, I played a few matches with DD last night

tawny pebble
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most gracious

haughty star
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w

long wharf
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I really wish the stacks didn't fall off all at once

rare storm
haughty star
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ME TOO

long wharf
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or that the psyker got credit when the target dies

lethal lagoon
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I like the idea of 5 second stacks but they decay.

long wharf
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not just when the psyker kills them

haughty star
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but

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ultimately i feel like it's better

mystic burrow
long wharf
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I didn't once see a DD target pop up on a poxwalker or infected

mystic burrow
long wharf
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right

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I don't consider those "chaff"

mystic burrow
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i see

long wharf
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chaff would be the horde

magic kayak
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I could see DD being great with surge staff since it crits so much

mystic burrow
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well on those guys then

long wharf
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DD really incentivizes weakspots

lethal lagoon
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DD is fun as fuck to use on Surge, but I dunno how much effect you are getting.

mystic burrow
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but anyways, yea if dd falls off slower, it'd may be kinda overtunzed

long wharf
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surge staff doesn't hit weakspots

magic kayak
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yeah but dd gives crit damage

mystic burrow
lethal lagoon
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In fairness, you don't really need more crit damage on surge

tawny pebble
long wharf
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DD gives double the weakspot damage buff compared to crit damage

mystic burrow
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if i recall it gives 2% crit dmg per stack, but 2.5% weakspot dmg per stack

vocal cliff
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Surge staff went through quite an arc

magic kayak
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yeah and frankly I'd rather have warp stacks with inner tranquility

mystic burrow
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im not too sure, but it gives more weakspot dmg than crit dmg

long wharf
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1% damage, 2% crit, 2.5% weakspot, I think

magic kayak
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the 36% less peril gen is really strong

lethal lagoon
zinc phoenix
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surprisingly ok melk sword?

long wharf
zinc phoenix
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is the mk2 good for anything?

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thats the one that yeets you into space with absurd dodge distance yah

mystic burrow
mystic burrow
magic kayak
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I cant not use my mkiv though to even try mkii. is moveset way different?

rare storm
mystic burrow
long wharf
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nope

lethal lagoon
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So you could get multiple stacks of true aim

mystic burrow
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so it can manage hordes better, and can actually utilize rampage, at least better than other dueling sword

long wharf
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if you hit weakspots with something else, True Aim will make surge crit

lethal lagoon
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It does a bunch of little ticks follow by the big one

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I'm talking pre-patch

long wharf
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but you aren't procing True Aim with just surge staff

mystic burrow
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i would switch rampage to t4, and switch crit to possibly maniac or carapace

long wharf
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the little ticks don't count as hits

lethal lagoon
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I thought that was clear, but maybe I goofed

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They did

zinc phoenix
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me weakspot hitting with space trauma

lethal lagoon
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You could get multiple true aim stacks with one surge target.

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Of course it doesn't matter cause it's patched

rare storm
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oh mb I'm in and out of the chat, doing stuff rn lmao

magic kayak
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you used to be able to proc true aim with it

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didnt the surge staff do weak spot hits before?

long wharf
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that was the month otherwise known as the Dark Age of Surge

magic kayak
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lol

long wharf
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when FartShack was futzing with it

mystic burrow
rare storm
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Was this when Surge did 1/2 dmg because it was hitting limbs

magic kayak
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so rampage on mkiv is worthless right?

chrome sandal
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could someone help me unlock the psyker penance where i have to kill a monstrosity with brain burst?

mystic burrow
lethal lagoon
long wharf
magic kayak
lethal lagoon
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So first surge hit random targets and did -50% damage.

mystic burrow
magic kayak
lethal lagoon
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They fixed the 50% damage part first

long wharf
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I much preferred when Surge and smite shared an attack object

mystic burrow
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then keep slapping away

long wharf
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and so EP buffed the shit out of surge

mystic burrow
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and then push atk to proc rampage again

magic kayak
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sorry I mean ds mkiv

lethal lagoon
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So for a while it could do weakspots and limbs and did more damage at times.

long wharf
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and surge benefited from the smite upgrade nodes

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that was the most fun I had with the current version of surge staff

lethal lagoon
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I think the jump benefit was a cool feature, but then you can't really run anything else with Surge but smite.

mystic burrow
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but use push atk to proc rampage on dueling sword mk4

magic kayak
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I still haven't unlocked uncanny I don't know whats up with that

rare storm
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free double dmg on surge

magic kayak
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Ah I see what you mean

mystic burrow
lethal lagoon
rare storm
lethal lagoon
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Or the people who think it made surge "balanced" like smh, how bad are you playing.

rare storm
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Surge is still technically the worst staff rn tho

long wharf
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surge still doesn't feel good

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the randomness on the damage is too variable

magic kayak
long wharf
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it needs to just do its full damage, like everything else in the game

lethal lagoon
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What do you mean randomness?

mystic burrow
magic kayak
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Hadron is my mortal enemy

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yeah

long wharf
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surge secondary has a large variability in the damage it deals

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it's not consistent, there's an RNG component

lethal lagoon
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Uhhh, in what way?

meager trail
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is carapace decent on the surge?

lethal lagoon
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That was an issue with limb targetting and was fixed a while ago.

mystic burrow
# magic kayak yeah

that means u dont have that blessing "earned", and u can surrender it to hadron to "earn" it so u can put it on other weapons that are of the same kind

long wharf
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it's still happening

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you can see for yourself in the psykward

mystic burrow
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if u can get an uncanny on a different dueling sword, u can "earn" it and put it on your current dueling sword at the "rebless" section

magic kayak
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Oh yeah I know that part I just can't seem to get the uncanny blessing on any of the swords. I've upgraded like 10 to get uncanny and its alwayss same 3 blessings

lethal lagoon
magic kayak
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really? I thought it was mk specific

long wharf
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clear your talent tree and start zapping the same enemy type

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yes

lethal lagoon
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Oh

mystic burrow
lethal lagoon
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hmm

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ima go test

mystic burrow
magic kayak
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nice... I had no idea

mystic burrow
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all dueling swords share blessings with each other

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so u can earn 1 blessing to be used on all 3

rare storm
lethal lagoon
rare storm
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flakiak still better overall I think

long wharf
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all of them

rare storm
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or crit chance to abuse more crit related bonuses

mystic burrow
# magic kayak nice... I had no idea

some that are considered "similar" are not actually the same, like chainsword and heavy eviscerator are different, and all the psyker staffs are different too

lethal lagoon
mystic burrow
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they dont share blessings with each other

long wharf
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each hit will be different

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you'll see

mystic burrow
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so just keep that in mind

long wharf
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your crits will be different damages as well

meager trail
magic kayak
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I need that warp flurry also

mystic burrow
long wharf
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why did you keep Terrifying Barrage?

rare storm
long wharf
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RIP.

magic kayak
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im getting rid of terrifying barrage on mine just have nothing better yet

meager trail
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took barrage while crafting to force a t4 flurry or nexus

long wharf
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I'd keep the carapace and swap crit chance for flak

meager trail
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its changed rn

lethal lagoon
rare storm
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But it has never worked for me

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damn it hadron

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You bitch

meager trail
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still got a t3

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LMAO

long wharf
mystic burrow
long wharf
mystic burrow
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usually not in my favor

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house always fking wins

magic kayak
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I did terrifying after I upgraded to max lvl not before

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it had run and gun on it -_-

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thanks hadron

mystic burrow
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yea makes sense

long wharf
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you want warp nexus and warp flurry on surge staff

rare storm
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run and gun arguably better than barrage

long wharf
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literally no other blessing matters for surge

mystic burrow
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at least terrifying would help out somewhat compared to run n gun

magic kayak
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dont have flurry unlocked yet

rare storm
magic kayak
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yeah terrifying > run n gun > nothin

rare storm
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hey man

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Why you shitting on my l1 spam run and gun surge

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That shit fun as fuck

mystic burrow
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if u can sprint with secondary, now that's run n gun

magic kayak
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i do like run and gun on purgatus though

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the quick stagger l1 is crucial sometimes

untold niche
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finally got my deflector 4 after 10 yellows 2 blues. on the 11th yellow lol

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im pretty sure its more than 10- because i scrapped a few
not playing for 1 monmth made me pretty bad tho

lethal lagoon
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@long wharf Oh man I'm blind not noticing that variance. Doesn't really matter though since the only real consistent breakpoint is shotgunners/gunners cause on bulwarks/crushers/oggunners you'll probably crit X times.

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But I see your point

long wharf
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it took me by surprise as well

meager trail
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also crit bonus doesnt matter on surge correct?

long wharf
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it's the biggest reason why the surge staff doesn't feel good

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you aren't consistently hitting the breakpoints you think you should be

lethal lagoon
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I wouldn't say crit bonus doesn't matter, but it's definitely the least important.

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you want a 370+ surge honestly.

rare storm
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The +5 crit chance perk?

lethal lagoon
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The stat crit bonus

rare storm
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Oo

long wharf
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with surge staff having a higher base crit chance, you end up getting more mileage out of +10% elite damage than you do +5 crit chance perks

untold niche
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@plucky flax bb this good enough?

long wharf
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especially since you make up for that perk in the talent tree

lethal lagoon
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I've been enjoying my flak/unyielding surge.

magic kayak
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if you look at post game you'll always have the highest overkill dmg which is basically wasted damage lol it does matter on monstrosities / big hp enemies though I guess

harsh urchin
lethal lagoon
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The 0 effort boss damage is pretty decent

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And if no one is like hyper-boss damage, I'm usually dealing a huge amount of the HP

plucky flax
long wharf
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that staff is useless

untold niche
long wharf
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definitely

meager trail
rare storm
long wharf
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t4 blessings are the best use of Milkies

untold niche
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i haven't swapped to trauma tho

harsh urchin
long wharf
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very wrong

harsh urchin
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surge has no dump stats

meager trail
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ok copy

harsh urchin
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you want high rolls in everything if you can

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80/80/70/70/70 if you can

long wharf
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yeah, surge generates so much peril that you really want both warp res and quell

untold niche
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also i finally found a +3 stamina

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goddam

lethal lagoon
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With how much I use Surge, I really wish I could roll a better one with free perks.

plucky flax
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RIP

lethal lagoon
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These stats make me happy though, close to perfect for my purposes.

long wharf
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this is mine

magic kayak
lethal lagoon
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My alt psyker got a +3 stamina like right after hitting 30 KEKW_ogryn

meager trail
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my other one

long wharf
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FartShack really needs to let us trade weapons between characters

meager trail
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quell is ass tho

long wharf
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still very usable

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swap crit chance for elite damage

rare storm
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Stam on psyker good?

long wharf
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you'll notice the difference

rare storm
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my surge

meager trail
rare storm
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just gotta get that flurry 4 and I'm gucci

long wharf
magic kayak
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I run +stam, +toughess, and + hp

haughty star
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i got a 3 stam curios with 5 toughness for my vet yesterday

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god tier

rare storm
long wharf
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should have kept it

meager trail
long wharf
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crit damage is an absolute wasted perk slot

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same with weakspot damage

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the damage being multiplied is the difference between normal damage and the extra damage

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not the total damage

rare storm
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Yeah I realised after

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That it's additive

long wharf
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not additive

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it's calculated wrong

rare storm
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no?

lethal lagoon
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it's additive and calculated wrong I'm fairly certain

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So double whammy

rare storm
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I think both ya

magic kayak
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thats terrible

long wharf
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if they fixed the calculated wrong part, even being additive would be better than current

rare storm
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Somebody did the calculation in zealot chat

magic kayak
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so if normal crit is 200% dmg then this puts it at 205%?

midnight jolt
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Hopefully the last one is good so is not bricked, I'll let you know on the next Dragon BallZ episode when I get more plasteel ๐Ÿ˜‚

magic kayak
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thats garbage

rare storm
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It's a percentage of the bonus added by crit

long wharf
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yeah

rare storm
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Which adds up to some single damage bs

magic kayak
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lol

long wharf
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if you normally deal 660, and crit is 800, the 10% is 10% of 140, not 800

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so an additional 14 damage

rare storm
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But I don't play surge that often so I'm on the boat of hoping they fix it

magic kayak
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how the hell

rare storm
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Copium higher than my bank acc

magic kayak
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thats some pretty common core sounding math

haughty star
long wharf
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welcome to FartShack's level of game design competence

untold niche
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quick question what map is this?
you can walk around on level one, and you need to take the battery up till level 2

i hated this mission when people aren't good

lethal lagoon
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I'm guessing crit damage was too OP calculated normally or something?

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I can't imagine why else they did this

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Repair HL something

untold niche
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its not even a lose, its a freaking slog

long wharf
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looks like the single repair mission we have

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not batteries but cryo-rods

untold niche
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its a cylinder where you can go up to leve l2

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its not the green one

long wharf
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that mission is pretty easy, just longer than others

untold niche
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i feel that mission is a slog

ornate hamlet
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Yeah, it's the cryo thingy one

untold niche
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that part

lethal lagoon
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Power Matrix

rare storm
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Power Matrix MetalFAB 36

long wharf
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a coordinated team can throw the cryo-rods up to people on the gangways

meager trail
ornate hamlet
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It can be kinda bad because people aren't particularly good at escorting the carrier and dodging as the carrier

untold niche
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it always felt like the mission should end right there lol

lethal lagoon
midnight jolt
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can I sacrifice warp battery until I get this done?

rare storm
midnight jolt
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so max warp is 4 and not 6?

long wharf
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yes

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penance doesn't care what your max is, just that you're at it

magic kayak
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yep

midnight jolt
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time for wild fire meme-ing ๐Ÿ˜‚

long wharf
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fire is an excellent way to keep warp charges up

harsh urchin
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i'm like 90% sure it needs to be 6

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unless they've fixed it

long wharf
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I'm 100% sure it doesn't need to be

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never did

harsh urchin
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but it was hardcoded to need 6 in november

rare storm
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Nah, I did mine on 4

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Whut

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That's

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Weird

harsh urchin
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ye, they fucked up the code for the penance in the nov update

long wharf
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oh, when the talent tree came out and it was bugged

paper loom
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What perks are nice on mk2 ds? I have max unarmoured

harsh urchin
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so unless it's fixed, 6 is required

long wharf
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it's been fixed

long wharf
paper loom
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Yea lol

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I realise

rare storm
paper loom
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Sadly not a decent one

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I have a godlike mk2 all 80% bar cleave

midnight jolt
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save your resources until you get what you want, or you will suffer, heed my advise sibling ๐Ÿ˜‚

rare storm
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is the mk2 the overhead swinging one

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It's not bad if you use it with rampage

paper loom
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Rolled with max unarmoured and lvl 4 prenog strikes

ornate hamlet
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mk5

rare storm
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Not the BEST

rare storm
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Wait what does mk2 do

ornate hamlet
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I'm under the impression the mk2 is the fastest one for lights

paper loom
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It's a middle road type sword

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I quite like the move set tbh

ornate hamlet
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I don't like the mk5 because it has a messed up headshot priority on one of the lights and each time I mention that people just go "aim 1 meter away from the head diagonally skill issue"

paper loom
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But yea any perk suggestions?

rare storm
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oh the mk2 looks fine

ornate hamlet
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Flak and maniac, mostly

rare storm
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I would go with flakiac

paper loom
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I only have 1 reroll

ornate hamlet
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If you want to deal with crushers, it doesn't hurt to do carapace instead of flak

rare storm
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Whats on it rn

rare storm
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That's fine

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Oh wait that's warbreaker's

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You scammer

midnight jolt
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I deal with anything, my team is always doing something else ๐Ÿ˜‚

paper loom
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4 uncanny strike lvl 1 riposte and 25 unarmoured

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Can't recall other perk think stamina

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It has 80% everything but cleave which is 60 I think

long wharf
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I put +maniac on my ds4

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lets me one-shot charging mutants on damnation

paper loom
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Sorry not on pc

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To take a screenshot

rare storm
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ehhhh I'd replace stam for maniac and try to get a better riposte/precog blessing

paper loom
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I have max

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So could put ma riposte

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Max

rare storm
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shii

paper loom
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Pretty godlike sadly mk2

long wharf
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just a pity it's not a mk4

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

paper loom
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Yea

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Was a blue item too Hadron was kind

rare storm
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The grind continues

long wharf
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the grind never ends

untold niche
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No need to grind anymore, just get carried ez

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carrying --> exhausting, frustrating, terrible experience
getting carried --> ez, no angry, fun time

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i have ascended

long wharf
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the game is most fun when nobody is being carried

rare storm
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channel the full support meta

long wharf
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that's when you get those runs that are more or less smooth

rare storm
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Bubble shield, brittleness trauma

midnight jolt
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double shield so they don't die

rare storm
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Sit at the side and apply brittleness every once inawhile and throw down a shield

long wharf
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everybody knows what to do in each situation, and the team moves together through the map consistently

untold niche
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subpar dps > good support
(in terms of fun :p)

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just let your team do the rest

rare storm
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I enjoy letting my vet/zealot feel good doing big stonk dmg after I apply 8 stacks of brittleness

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And then seeing them say at the end of the game I was useless because they got stat padded

zinc phoenix
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I decided to try fire wc aura one time. Instantly roll a Burgatus psyker who overwrites all my soulfire. Zero charges all mission i mald every time

long wharf
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the sad truth is both vets and zealots are able to rend on their own

rare storm
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Ah shit

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I am useless

long wharf
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the psyker being a damage buffer/debuffer isn't a clear role any more

zinc phoenix
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Psychic bampire >>> stupid ass in fire reborn

long wharf
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vets especially don't need any help with rending

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they can get it on weapons and talent tree

zinc phoenix
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Yeah vet can just headshot to do absurd damage mults on everything

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Me out here headshotting carapace with a kant12

rare storm
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So is rending just

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useless now

long wharf
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nope

zinc phoenix
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No itโ€™s great

long wharf
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it's great

zinc phoenix
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But lik everyone has tons of it

long wharf
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it's so good that everybody can do it

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so doing only brittleness is actually helping the team less than just doing damage

rare storm
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Is their rending the case of, they can do additional damage with the brittleness that THEY applied themselves

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or is it the same as psyker

long wharf
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rending != brittleness

rare storm
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Where we don't benefit from our own brittleness stacks

long wharf
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rending is your weapon ignoring armor

untold niche
zinc phoenix
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Not having quietude has me malding but itโ€™s probably ok

long wharf
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brittleness is enemy armor being reduced

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rending = just you

zinc phoenix
long wharf
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brittleness = enemy debuff = helps everyone

untold niche
tawny pebble
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i am not good with terminology

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what is stat padding?

zinc phoenix
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Simply activate Kenyan mode

untold niche
# tawny pebble what is stat padding?

imagine like, you could kill zombie with one bullet to head, 100 damage
but instead, you shoot them two times in body first then 1 time in head to do 190 damage on the leaderboard

rare storm
tawny pebble
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oh

rare storm
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or only rending traumas

zinc phoenix
tawny pebble
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so just masturbation, got it

long wharf
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I think zealot charge is straight ignoring armor entirely, not applying brittleness

untold niche
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but in his context, its because he boosted their damage, so not really paddiing

rare storm
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oo

tawny pebble
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fair

tawny pebble
rare storm
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So only rending traumas apply brittleness

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but at that point, just doing flat damage is better than applying brittleness only

ornate hamlet
long wharf
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nice thing about trauma is that its aoe has infinite cleave

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it will hit everything in the blast radius

untold niche
long wharf
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which is why blast radius isn't a dump stat

tawny pebble
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do people think it is?

rare storm
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Since when was it considered a dump stat

ornate hamlet
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But it wouldn't be padding if the scoreboard accounts for it?

long wharf
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so you brittleness everything you knock around

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or you apply soulblaze to everything you knock around, depends on your build

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blast radius is a dump stat on void staff

ornate hamlet
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And on the occasion of the total damage showing overkill as well, it's a simple as damage-overkill

long wharf
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I was simply explaining

rare storm
long wharf
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I wish FartShack would change the damage profile for trauma, though

rare storm
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I think somebody here has a 20 blast rad trauma

untold niche
long wharf
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having full damage only at epicenter and minimal damage everywhere else is kind of lame

rare storm
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The hit box is smaller than the actual circle indicator

#

Funny as fuck

long wharf
#

damage should be based on how far from epicenter the enemy is

#

I also intensely dislike the aiming method for trauma

#

have since release

untold niche
#

i thought its just look at floor

#

circle grow big

ornate hamlet
#

I think stat padding would be better explained as people just sweating to kill pointless shit to say they did more damage at the end

rare storm
#

Ehhh it's not the best, but it's fine I feel

long wharf
#

the circle isn't centered on where you're looking

zinc phoenix
ornate hamlet
#

Like stalling the team so they can kill a poxwalker horde from behind

rare storm
#

I hate that depending on the surface, it goes INTO the flooring

long wharf
#

the circle is at the bottom of an invisible object that tries to center where you're looking

ornate hamlet
#

Magdumping hordes the team is fighting

rare storm
#

Which kinda fucken sucks

long wharf
#

it ought to just be centered where you're looking

zinc phoenix
#

Or they could use grenade aiming system

untold niche
zinc phoenix
long wharf
zinc phoenix
rare storm
#

Speaking of which

#

They need a mortar staff

#

Shit would be fun

long wharf
untold niche
zinc phoenix
#

I love how trauma literally feels like youโ€™re calling down artillery shells ๐Ÿ˜‚

untold niche
long wharf
#

I would genuinely use trauma more often if the aiming weren't the way it is now

rare storm
untold niche
#

also just make the mortar explosion noises yourself

tawny pebble
long wharf
#

into your always active mic

#

go "psheow"

untold niche
tawny pebble
#

i hate having to tilt my entire screen up just to aim further

rare storm
long wharf
#

yep, I hate it

untold niche
#

rock, thumper, GG

tawny pebble
#

i will agree on rock

long wharf
#

I don't want to look away from where I want the explosion to be

tawny pebble
#

even when my brain burst gets stolen

long wharf
#

I want to look at where I want the explosion to be

tawny pebble
#

don't care

zinc phoenix
tawny pebble
rare storm
zinc phoenix
#

โ€œLook at me I have a rock that one shot mutieโ€ ๐Ÿ™„

untold niche
rare storm
#

But I get to throw rocks at things

untold niche
#

i take big boom myself

long wharf
#

you'd still look at the floor

untold niche
#

because

#

STU too good to pass up

zinc phoenix
untold niche
#

im too lazy to go into psk to ego prove myself correct

#

help me do that

long wharf
#

the problem with the grenades is that they have a limit on how much damage they deal

#

and that sounds like a stupid statement, but it's not

#

because that damage limit also affects how many enemies take damage within the blast area

#

grenades have cleave limited by the damage they deal

zinc phoenix
#

The solution is throw more nades

long wharf
#

it always is

zinc phoenix
#

This is why I like grenadier vet ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Throw nade, kill a thing, free nade, throw nade

untold niche
#

meta vet looks super boring ngl

long wharf
#

I wish the ogryn tree would swap the positions of the rocks and the box of grenades

untold niche
#

pfoom pfoom gun with psword

long wharf
#

then I could take throwing rocks with gungryn

rare storm
#

just lobbing a rock over obstacles

untold niche
zinc phoenix
zinc phoenix
#

The upside is Iโ€™ve gotten very good at aiming with kant12

long wharf
#

imagine trauma variant that lays down patches of warpfire as enemy hazards

untold niche
#

im pretty sure you could just go through the whole game with psword alone

zinc phoenix
#

They need to do more wacky staves

long wharf
#

why do enemies get to lay down areas of fire but not us?

untold niche
#

someone tell me how much damage psword deal to rager head

#

iirc its like 1 shot

zinc phoenix
long wharf
#

well yeah, there's that

zinc phoenix
#

Zealot nade is so dangerous for team

long wharf
#

but the flamer doesn't

#

and the purge staff doesn't

zinc phoenix
#

You think itโ€™s friendly but then whoops itโ€™s enemy fire on top of the friendly fire

#

Guess Iโ€™ll die

rare storm
#

To be fair it is a different colour

long wharf
#

zealot fire is visually distinct from normal fire

#

normal fire is red

rare storm
#

Zealot's one is yellow

zinc phoenix
#

And when theyโ€™re on top you only see one color

long wharf
#

zealot fire is only golden

rare storm
#

big brain

untold niche
#

see thats why i run bomber resist

#

and you guys laugh at me

rare storm
#

Install coloured zealot molotov mod

long wharf
#

gotta use the ol' eyeballs

untold niche
long wharf
#

bomber resist used to not include his grenade fire

tawny pebble
#

the custom flame mod has been helpful, along with zealot friendly fire

hasty breach
#

does purgatus only hit the body?

long wharf
#

now add a curio perk, Fire Resistance +25%, and I'd probably put it on all my curios

untold niche
#

i feel every few patches they choose which enemy is the dangerous one

#

previous few iterations it was rager

#

now its bomber and flamers

long wharf
#

problem is FartShack has been messing with AI Director spawn variables

ornate hamlet
#

After the nerf and the omnipresent rager families

tame venture
#

I have a bit of a conundrum

untold niche
#

speak

tame venture
#

i don't have many decent blessings for my knife, and i just got the new MK4, should i grind my old one for flesh tearer?

#

old one being the MKIII on the right

untold niche
#

personally i would just grind out a mk4 blessing

#

as in

#

keep knife

#

and

#

keep rolling

tame venture
#

but plasteel ๐Ÿ˜”

untold niche
#

both of my mk4 blessings took like 10-12 gold rolls

#

you could prob work out how many times you need to hit 95% chance of getting the blessing you want

tame venture
#

knife isn't a huge priority for my psyker tbh

#

and idk if i'd ever use that MKIII if i have the MK4

untold niche
#

is mk4 objectively better?

#

idk if it was me i would be scared that i regret ripping it

long wharf
#

dueling sword mk4 is what you want

zinc phoenix
long wharf
#

just further proof in my eyes that the FartShack devs are still learning how their own code works

rare storm
#

They be playing with where they spawn too

#

From my run just now

midnight jolt
#

Over my better judgement I still went ahead, look at this shit:

lethal lagoon
#

Speedfarming normal t5s trinket

#

Uniroincally solid for that

long wharf
#

snipers have been spawning in weird locations for a couple patches now

untold niche
#

IMAGINE YOUR TEAM NO REVOLVO

rare storm
untold niche
#

or any bullet gun

long wharf
#

he's not in heaven, just sub-heaven

rare storm
#

We all shot at him

#

It was a losing battle

rare storm
long wharf
#

that's where they all end up, yes

tame venture
long wharf
#

ouch

#

you took a bricked ds4 and threw mats at it

tame venture
#

it was my first ever shuddup

#

not everone has ten million plasteel to throw at every weapon in the game

long wharf
#

Hadron must have been whispering in your ear "It's not that bad, you can fix this, can't you varlet"

midnight jolt
long wharf
#

and then she laughed a big belly laugh

rare storm
long wharf
#

yeah

#

the more selective you are, the more you get out of the mats you spend

midnight jolt
#

hence the "blue" rule

rare storm
#

To be fair

tame venture
#

yeah, i'm trying to to grind out niche weapons too much

rare storm
#

360 is the bare minimum for blessing farming

tame venture
#

like this knife

rare storm
#

So all in all, not ENTIRELY a loss

#

You got an uncanny 3 out of it

#

Worth

midnight jolt
#

no, he had uncanny already

rare storm
#

o

midnight jolt
#

he forced 2 bleesings into it

tame venture
#

๐Ÿ˜”

rare storm
#

m blind mb

tame venture
#

would ya'll belive me if that was the best sword out of 40

midnight jolt
tame venture
#

don't mention thunderhammers around me btw

midnight jolt
#

I had 400k this morning:

rare storm
#

I think I'm about 1.5mill dockets in and still don't have a decent blaze trauma

midnight jolt
#

and lets not talk about plasteel please, it hurts my feelings, causes me emotional damage

tame venture
#

i'm trying to save up for some drip for my vet too. i really want that highest tier desert camo set

untold niche
tame venture
midnight jolt
untold niche
#

pogryn KEKW_ogryn
400k in dockets and thats the best you got?

tame venture
#

i wanna get a decent knife, but i really don't wanna bog myself down in loads of grind

untold niche
#

i find dockets to be easy to grind, so personally i would grind for a decent one before spending plasteel

#

all my stuff are pretty mid but nowhere as bad as yours mr fleen xD

tame venture
ornate hamlet
#

me

untold niche
#

this ds4 was off blunt first store, not even armoury xD

fresh reef
#

voidstrike kinda good

tame venture
#

last call on if i should grind up my old one for the lacerate blessing tbh

untold niche
#

eh if you feel mk4 objectively better then do it, else i will grind it out.

sly comet
#

It's done. It's finally done.

#

Huge thanks to @terse cloud @silver mantle @tidal drum.
I couldn't have done it without y'all.

tacit stump
#

deimos uncanny sreiker as firs blessing what do you think is better as second slaughterer, deflector or unstable power

sly comet
#

I got both of these unlocked at the same time due to accomplishing all the other penances prior. I unintentionally became a psyker main just to get the drip. I'm glad it's finally done.

chrome sandal
#

can someone help me with malleus monstronum penance?

tame venture
spice robin
#

Can someone help me with a build

#

I would like to use the flame staff and the electric skill tree

#

And being more of a support

latent hill
chrome sandal
latent hill
#

Yeah Ik, daemonhosts count as monstrosities

midnight jolt
tame venture
#

greens don't have blessings

midnight jolt
#

blues*

#

green could have a good perk, if you find a good green with good stats and a perk thats a headstart

tame venture
#

you buy the greens, upgrade them once, then either grind the blessing or trash it

lethal lagoon
#

Getting the bots killed was funny and felt kinda mean

#

When it was my turn we got shit luck though so I still don't have it cause I needed to go lmao, his was first attempt on a chaos spawn.

lethal lagoon
#

I'm busy atm, sorry mate thumbsup_ogryn

chrome sandal
#

ah ok all good

lethal lagoon
#

Funny enough for the same reason I needed to go last time, making food for my dog.

upper sun
#

SHOP RESET IN 3 MINUTES any bets on what awful weapons we get?

cinder niche
#

90% guns like usual

midnight jolt
#

Rating 364 - 30% dmg

latent hill
#

I think your best bet is warp charges

upper sun
#

im betting 370 axe with 1 level 1 blessing

midnight jolt
#

if only it had 3 stamina:

#

acquisitions

upper sun
#

they have a 3 stamina curio?

midnight jolt
#

yes, is rare

upper sun
#

ahh yeah the max main blessing rating is usually 75 right?

ornate hamlet
supple escarp
#

what perks do you want on a purgatus force staff?

upper sun
supple escarp
#

ty

midnight jolt
#

The atheneum has better answers, the guide pinned here on the channel

#

Just Ctrl + F and search for purgatus, when you see its image, it explains details you want to know like burn being at least 76%

supple escarp
#

im not very good at discord but ive been looking for the atheneum since you said it

#

where is it?

onyx sentinel
#

Force swords feel so slow now after weeks of using duelling swords

midnight jolt
onyx sentinel
#

Wil maxing out my fov fix this problem

supple escarp
#

ty

noble copper
#

this one is decent right? just need to replace perks

tame venture
#

i've never seen a 17 toughness, and only one 21 health

ornate hamlet
#

I don't think I've seen a 21 health

hushed egret
#

I've heard +2 wounds exist

#

idk why they'd gate such a huge jump in quality behind such a miniscule chance but Sitgryn

ornate hamlet
#

Methinks they don't

hushed egret
#

I know someone who apparently has one

#

assuming they didnt read it wrong

gaunt wagon
#

the +2 wounds might exist but they are not made anymore

harsh urchin
#

because it doesn't exist

#

and it never has

mighty olive
#

i gots like 3 or 4 of them now XD

upper sun
#

its a main stat tho how do you roll for it?

harsh urchin
#

+3 stam does exist though

mighty olive
#

go to Melk

#

do the Mystery Acquisitions

#

select unknown defensive curio for 250

upper sun
#

OHH yeah

mighty olive
#

that's how i got mine!

hexed geyser
#

I've heard you can get a +2 wounds with a 81 rating curio rating or more. Still haven't found one

upper sun
#

i got burnt with the melee weapons

#

im not touching that those

#

im just gonna camp the normal store and try to get good base stat weapons for now

#

im not wasting a single penny on blunts

#

not any kind of blunt!

mighty olive
#

doing weapons one is a waste, i dunno i had a crap tone of gold to use at the time >_<

#

just did it again and got a +3 stam one XD

upper sun
#

i spent like 200k on random swords and weapons with 375+ base stats

#

maybe one day theyll be useful

zinc phoenix
#

Not having quietude made me reee errytime

#

I have added it back

#

ds2 pretty fun tho

#

Move set is very Sid Meier pirates cutlass shit lol

eager token
#

anyone got a good blaze trauma build

lethal lagoon
# eager token anyone got a good blaze trauma build

People think I can only play blaze trauma in melee scab only. It's actually really good everywhere. Apart from nurgle-blessed modifier I would say since they are immune to cc from trauma but it can still work.
Patch 1.2.22
Refinery Delta-17 ยท Disruption ยท Damnation ยท Hi-Intensity Monstrous Shock Troop Gauntlet
Loadout: Illisi Force Sword / Brain...

โ–ถ Play video
#

For reference, don't copy youtubers, this is one of the few exceptions thumbsup_ogryn

eager token
#

o thanks

zinc phoenix
ornate hamlet
#

Mk2 has a very fun moveset

#

It's just a shame the most boring one is the best

hushed egret
#

mk2/5 are still good

#

and cover the mk4's weaknesses better

proven falcon
#

So, i wanted to try out psyker, and im currently level 10. I wanna ask, does Assails damage scale with your level, or with difficulty? Or do i need a certain build to make it do more damage?

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

But assail base damage is the same throughout

ornate hamlet
#

The only thing the mk4 would do weakly is the horde, I think

lethal lagoon
#

I like the fact that every smite psyker I run into does 3x less damage than me

plucky flax
#

Fun fact I played surge ep smite in melee only earlier. I had a very good blaze trauma user on the team too.

#

I somehow outdamaged him and got more warpfire damage than him. whatthefuck_heresy

#

Very based smite spammer.

#

I used smite for 70~80% of that map. Xd

lethal lagoon
#

Have you figured out any smite tech yet?

#

I only got two "techs"

plucky flax
#

I dunno hold it to below 100% and release to do a stagger?

lethal lagoon
#

Spinning really fast to reset the intial target, and dodge sliding forward because a smite psyker must be the frontline

vestal fulcrum
#

I suppose there's nothing to change here re: blessings, no?

plucky flax
#

That's the only thing I know. Xd

vestal fulcrum
#

i.e., upgrade flak or leave as is

plucky flax
#

I really like maniac on ds4.

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

He did it's someone I know. whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

I crashed at the end of the game lemme see if my scoreboard got saved in time.

ornate hamlet
#

I will not have smite propaganda in this most holiest chat

vestal fulcrum
#

Dreg ragers take 2 heavies to the head and die

plucky flax
#

It gives me slightly easier time to kill mutie.

#

So normally I try to damage it a bit. Then headshot poke it.

ornate hamlet
#

Without maniac the mutant needs a crit

#

I don't care much about it, it's easy to do a follow-up

#

But

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
#

Specialists and ragers

plucky flax
#

EP smite OP mane

#

I make them dance.

ornate hamlet
plucky flax
#

Noooo nooooo

#

It's not like that Xd

#

This one is blaze trauma vs rending trauma in melee only.

#

More ranged damage more warpfire. whatthefuck_heresy

#

Thank you for free rending bruh.

lethal lagoon
#

Oh damn, I've never seen the warp that close to the ranged

vestal fulcrum
#

Playing first fire trauma game in ages

#

this is gonna be goooood

#

Sus companions

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, it's usually not that close, right?

plucky flax
#

No it's always super close for me.

#

Sometimes warpfire more, but often it's ranged damage slightly more.

lethal lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜… I wonder if my choice to use BM is hurting me more than I thought

#

Oh yeah, I don't run wildfire on Blaze, hmm, maybe I should. I've been running it on EP smite

plucky flax
#

This one warpfire slightly more.

#

I always run wildfire if I can (smite/bb)

#

Only time I don't run it is assail because it's impossibru

lethal lagoon
#

Oh yeah, what's your talent tree looking like for your EP smite? I'm guessing it's less top heavy than mine.

upper sun
plucky flax
#

Slightly less yeah.

peak kelp
#

do kinetic flayer procs of brain burst get damage bonus from empowered psyonics?

plucky flax
upper sun
#

i dont think you can get that lucky that many times

plucky flax
#

I always take kinetic deflection for safety.

#

And I didn't go for +1 chain.

#

I used to take it when it was bugged to help out surge.

#

But ever since they fixed it I stopped.

lethal lagoon
#

Ima try this next, I wanna see if mind in motion can let me steal more kills whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

Jump definitely not needed, if I had the 5% crit, I would take KD over jump

#

But I need two points for KD, so meh

plucky flax
#

Hmmm mind in motion

lethal lagoon
#

Smite kind of renders KD less useful

plucky flax
#

Oh yeah it's just for that spicy time when I have to solo clutch.

#

Which somehow happens quite often.

#

Maybe because I go on solo plasteels incursion and people just die. Sitgryn

lethal lagoon
#

I did die last night cause I forgot I didn't have KD ๐Ÿ˜…

#

Was also late and I was exhausted, but meh.

plucky flax
#

Yeah must have talent for me just for pure safety.

lethal lagoon
#

Me maxing out at 200ish plasteel

#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

plucky flax
#

I'm still not sure if ep smite is better than warp charge smite though.

#

Warp charge would let me spam creeping flames a bit more.

lethal lagoon
#

EP smite means more Aura though

#

Easier to steal elite kills

#

I can't really go back to warp charges because the smite length drives me crazy

#

I like the quick smites cause it's not like I care about CC at all

#

Plus EP is more points(for use) thumbsup_ogryn

plucky flax
#

Yeah true that warp charges cost so much.

chrome sandal
#

can someone join me to complete a penance?

#

cliffhangar

eager token
hexed geyser
plucky flax
#

RIP charge rate.

eager mantle
#

I did cliffhanger randomly with trauma

hushed egret
#

I did cliffhanger randomly in a train station using smite

#

no clue where they took fall damage from

eager mantle
hushed egret
#

sounds like we're talking about the same spot and that's where I got it too

#

I feel like they feel over the left and right or back sides of the train and were instakilled for being unable to move or fell out of the map for no collision

#

I truly have no idea but those are my theories

midnight jolt
#

From acquisitions:

#

1300 worth?

upper sun
#

i really like the melee maelstroms

vestal fulcrum
#

A decent result from the blaze trauma comeback, I suppose

vestal fulcrum
hushed egret
#

solid if you rely on blocks and shoves enough for your defense, but between psykers dodges and crowd control I dont think it's something you'll use often

upper sun
#

๐Ÿค” im sure theyre better than +2 stamina curios

harsh urchin
#

Theyre pretty good lol

#

Your base stamina with knife or FS is 2 bars or 3 bars

plucky flax
#

I always take kinetic so it's not that useful for me but if it fits your playstyle you can go for it.

harsh urchin
#

Going up to 5 or 6 helps a lot if you need the stamina to reposition

hushed egret
plucky flax
#

Experiment and find out.

midnight jolt
#

2300 for uncanny strike?

ornate hamlet
#

My rule of thumb is 2 toughness and 1 whatever with 3 toughness perks

lone ravine
#

I mean if you have +2 stam curios in use it wouldnโ€™t hurt to use +3 instead

flint plover
#

guess im finally building a knife

lone ravine
harsh urchin
#

Stamina isnt for blocking fyi

plucky flax
#

So you don't really need tier 4.

midnight jolt
#

I don't use any stamina, I use 2 toughness + 1 health

harsh urchin
#

You have kinetic def for blocking

hushed egret
#

dont really need it for repositioning or shoving either

harsh urchin
#

Stamina is for dps on knife, or for sprinting to reposition

hushed egret
#

imo

harsh urchin
#

Then dont use it

#

Lol

lethal lagoon
#

Stamina increases knife DPS?

#

I would think it doesn't matter with psykers regen rate

harsh urchin
#

Ive found stamina pretty impactful personally with certain weapons

hushed egret
#

my tldr is if you need more defense, stamina curios can help you out, but isnt necessary, more qol than anything

harsh urchin
#

Primarily useful against crusher and mauler packs

lethal lagoon
#

Hmmm, Mind in motion for EP smite felt kinda useless

plucky flax
#

You can spam push attack as psyker from the stam regen delay alone.

ornate hamlet
#

push attack is apparently faster than heavy spam

harsh urchin
#

And having 2 bars of base stamina

#

While doable

#

Is a bit sketchy

#

Especially if there's many maulers and crushers

hushed egret
#

except on Assail cause I want the 10% toughness replenishment modifier and cooldown aura

midnight jolt
#

I was asking because of the standard maelstorm, it was crushing (pun intended) ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

it was my 1st though

#

I need to git gud

#

really gud

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

plucky flax
#

In my blaze trauma meme vid I used knife without stam curio.

magic kayak
#

Finally got a +3 stam myself just now

#

thanks Melker

ornate hamlet
#

Mind in motion honestly should affect most slowdown from charging attacks and be switched to the bottom middle

lethal lagoon
#

Mind in motion should just be base effect lmao

ornate hamlet
#

Or that

rain minnow
#

Just pulled this, swapped the bad bless and going to swap +stam for +crit chance

ornate hamlet
#

Based

magic kayak
ornate hamlet
#

But it's 4% per stack

lethal lagoon
magic kayak
#

so 4% less armor, then 8% more damage, etc

lethal lagoon
#

25% carpace or flak however.... whatthefuck_heresy

rain minnow
upper sun
#

caprance prolly?

rain minnow
#

Carapace > Unyielding?

plucky flax
upper sun
#

whats the difference between maniacs and unyielding actually?

lethal lagoon
#

You have maniac base which is super nice thumbsup_ogryn , flak is what I would do to match it
But Carpace and Unyielding are valid choices

lethal lagoon
rain minnow
#

unyielding is monstrosities only, right?

lethal lagoon
#

I think one of the bombers, I never remember which specials are flak

rain minnow
#

Maybe bosses?

lethal lagoon
#

Og gunner and Bulwark have unyielding parts

harsh urchin
#

So you're hardly the paragon of build optimization ๐Ÿ˜น

rain minnow
#

carapace is just bulwarks and stuff, right?

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maulers?

lethal lagoon
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Carpace is Mauler heads and Crushers

midnight jolt
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One day, one day, hopefully before the weekend is over...

plucky flax
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1 point for 30% power.

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Worth it. whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
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Do they have carpace on there somewhere actually?

upper sun
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damn i shouldnt have closed the game meat grinder would have been useful now

lethal lagoon
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They might haha

rain minnow
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I thought it you tried to pierce their shield it was carapace hit? Unknown

long wharf
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I don't think bulwarks have any flak

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I thought bulwarks were unyielding

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like reapers

upper sun
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i dont think bulwarks are unyielding they do get stunned and staggered

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unless thats not what unyielding means lol

long wharf
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unyielding can still be stunned and staggered

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unyielding is an armor type

upper sun
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its a creature type not an armor type isnt it?

long wharf
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no, it's an armor type

rain minnow
magic kayak
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has to do with what your weapon is hitting.

rain minnow
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Looks like unyield on their body, and carapce on arms/legs?

lethal lagoon
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Emperor + Hadron just hooked my psyker up(it was purple).
My recently made alt psyker is quickly becoming better geared than my 1 year old main with 0 effort.

harsh urchin
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Wow thats a nice roll

magic kayak
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sheesh yeah

long wharf
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if you have surge blessing, get it on there

lethal lagoon
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I do

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I might not even play my main psyker anymore at this rate ๐Ÿ˜…

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My alt now has a better revolver, columbus, surge(ish), and now voidstrike and I never tried for any of this.

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Create an alt psyker, secret to getting geared thumbsup_ogryn

long wharf
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you kept playing, that counts as trying

plucky flax
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Maybe my alt can be SanctionedPsyker.

lethal lagoon
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I wanna make a 3rd psyker called OnlySmites

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And literally only smite

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but I need to get carried to like level 3 or something so I don't break the rule

long wharf
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what rule?

plucky flax
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Smite pog

lethal lagoon
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OnlySmites

long wharf
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oh

plucky flax
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I'll be on your team.

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We can double smite.

lethal lagoon
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OnlySmites and Smitesly

midnight jolt
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I cant see shit on this maelstorm wtf