psyker-class

[sweet whale]

Block, and Deflector makes things a lot easier.

[cunning bone]

Mb

[lethal lagoon]

Also Mb

[proven stirrup]

Hey, I have no intention of saying I'm a good player. I know my limits.

But for fuck sake the same room three times in a row with 11 different people?

[lethal lagoon]

Run the best build ever invented

With Surge staff

🙂

Do it trust me

🙂

Trust

🙂

Me

🙂

[cunning bone]

Omg

💀💀💀

[proven stirrup]

hilariously enough I was already running a surge build but definitely not this one lmaoooo

[lethal lagoon]

That's your problem

You gotta run this one

[proven stirrup]

Also in all fairness, the room I'm talking about is the big open one at the start

[lethal lagoon]

(Do it)

[proven stirrup]

and it's ALWAYS got some nonsense going on in it

[lethal lagoon]

Trust in the me that trusts in the you that trusts in me.

[proven stirrup]

First it was a daemonhost, then it was a gunner squad across the gap, then it was just people being trash really hard lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Daemonhosts never spawn when I run that build(out of fear).

[proven stirrup]

Memes aside, I've already excised this shit from my hard drive. I was deadass serious when I said I'm done for now

The fun has crumbled under the weight of my own inadequacy. I'll be back when we get something shiney and new or I just miss it that much.

[lethal lagoon]

Noooo. Run the meme build at least once

Believe in the meme

[proven stirrup]

I'm not at the point in this game where memes are fun

[lethal lagoon]

🥹

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[noble copper]

maybe keep both perks and slap surge and warp nexus t4 when i get it?

[quartz barn]

Hmm id honestly keep nexus and swap carapace instead

Because its only a 0.5 - 2% difference between t3 and t4

[noble copper]

i looked up some surge builds and many are running carapace, you would swap it to flak or?

[quartz barn]

I personally have flak ye, dont know what some of the others here have

At the same time a change between 20% and 25% might still be better than the nexus crit increase

Because you'll be critting a lot anyway with true aim and 39% base crit

[sand quest]

What should I change in this siblings?

[quartz barn]

Dont know if the 39 is correct tho, 7 base, 5 node, 5 aura, 18 nexus and 4 perk?

[stone canyon]

If you open up Unstable Power, you can either go Bloodthirsty for Special, or Uncanny for regular, says the guide, but probably works fine as is too

(never used Illisi yet and only read this info from guide)

[plush oak]

Another omegabased slaughterer unstable power gigachad user

Only bad thing about this is that the slaughterer is t3 instead of t4

[sand quest]

I think I can manage to get that...

But what about the perks? Shouldn't I change at least one of them to 25%?

Or completely even change them?

[plush oak]

Guess so

25% flak deffo

Id run 25% maniac too on it honestly

Just cuz of the muties

And ragers that get accidentally 1 shot

[subtle tulip]

flamethrower staff, best blessings?

[plush oak]

Warp flurry + nexus

[shadow wigeon]

I would probably just keep it as is for a bit and see if you can make use of Unstable. 80 warp res will make pumping your sword for unstable annoying. If you find you are swording at high peril anyway, then NBD keep it.

[stone canyon]

If Unstable was 10%-20% depending on peril, then always useful

[dapper shadow]

what are the breakpoints for warp nexus? every 1% of peril? every 10%?

I know 80% is apparantly the cap for max crit chance given by warp nexus

but how low does it start

[lethal lagoon]

20-40-60-80

You can also just watch the buff, it shows the stack

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-vomit-throw-up-sick-gif-17408662

Only time I’d ever go for ep I’d if I’m using bb

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

🙂

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gayixiangs-gif-22421534

[lethal lagoon]

I agree lmao

0 braincell all day

[proper osprey]

I’m not gonna take you seriously if you unironically use ep with smite bruh

“YEAH TEAM GET EM WORK HARDER”

[lethal lagoon]

Eh, did you even read the original post.

[proper osprey]

No

I don’t wanna

[lethal lagoon]

There was like 5 🙂

[proper osprey]

That’s so cool!

[lethal lagoon]

🙂

[proper osprey]

But idc

[lethal lagoon]

🙂

[sweet whale]

I always advocate for Deflector.

[proper osprey]

Just play gun psyker if you’re gonna use smite

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[sweet whale]

I am playing gun psyker.

[proper osprey]

Bro is stupid

Bb and purg and gun psyker >

Any siblings who still use assail a meteor will hit your house in 3 minutes

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah but your opinion is useless cause you are an xbox gamer

This is a pay-to-win chat

🤷‍♂️

[proper osprey]

He doesn’t know I have a pc

Bro is just dumb

[lethal lagoon]

Ew, 🤓 Even worse

[proper osprey]

Sad!

Average brain of the smite ep psyker

[lethal lagoon]

I've never actually seen a pub run ep smite though

So it must be good by elimination

🙂

[proper osprey]

This little chuddie has no idea

Wonder if disrupt destiny pairs with bb cause it’s a weak spot hit

[sweet whale]

You should try it. It's great.

[plucky flax]

Nice plasteels pick up

[lethal lagoon]

That's literally the mst meta build I've ever seen

[proper osprey]

Bro

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, the guy who picked up plasteel was the zealot I was making fun of earlier who left

So plasteel was knocked down, little plasteel for me.

[proper osprey]

I’m not gonna say anything

[lethal lagoon]

But I'm not proud of the small plasteel PP

Which actually fits with meme smite build

[urban sandal]

I always have least plasteel on my psyker since I'm so fuckin slow

[proper osprey]

How to explode type build

What weapons do you use with it

The dreamy bull build

“Am bout to blow!”

[lethal lagoon]

No this dream build

🙂

Any build that don't look like this is non-meta

[proper osprey]

We love toughness

[lethal lagoon]

Perfect Psyker build, don't @ me

[proper osprey]

The no stamina curio

With +5 toughness

[ionic needle]

What even is this? Just don't get hit bro

This is the meta

[lethal lagoon]

Ur meta is actual facebook meta 🙂

Copyright infringment

[proper osprey]

I just can’t

Feeling like wingo rn

Big ups

https://tenor.com/view/wings-of-redemption-wings-sean-ranklin-toss-throw-gif-14825487

[sweet whale]

Accatran and deflector sword with toughness and block efficiency.

[ionic needle]

No actually this is the meta

[proper osprey]

Blud……

[left dagger]

aw frag here we go again

[near wyvern]

Cause the difference in crit chance with high and low roll is not that big

Where as the difference in high and low warp resist, quell speed etc. is a lot and the effect is great

[split oxide]

Choose your loadout:

• Staff + PlasmaPistol?
• Staff + Book?

[velvet lotus]

OI SPARK HEADS

there is your commodor rotation there !

[dapper shadow]

ahh, thanks

[near wyvern]

I am still alive

[velvet lotus]

its recolors but at least you an old rotation back !

[split oxide]

I've given up with Assail. (Void,Smite,Dome,Illisi)

[near wyvern]

Assail is good for weaving with guns

With void yeah you should use smite

[split oxide]

ah, I don't play gunkers. Zellies and brogryns need ammo more.

[half iron]

vets don’t need ammo so i play gunker

[near wyvern]

I play Gunker and don't pick up ammo unless they don't pick it up, I don't see why that is a problem

Gunker when weaving with assail can live with scraps, if there is an ammo vet I don't need pick ups at all

[split oxide]

True: I've finished entire games with Smite, Dome, Illisi.
Sure, I could Void some ranged; but that's what teammates are for.

And gives them something to do/makes them feel useful:

• a team that feels like it's competing with each other for kills will make mistakes.
• which is why I never attack during the first two encounters of a map.

[proven stirrup]

What guns do you use?

[plucky flax]

It's good aura

[steep estuary]

I've been enjoying using a sword to open an encounter then assail if I need to thin the herd. Voistrike for range ofc.

[split oxide]

My only ... "luxury" .. is 3x CombatAbilityRegen: 6 sec between Domes.

[steep estuary]

That sounds pretty dang handy

[plucky flax]

Smite bubble bot ❤️

[split oxide]

Coherency-wise: As popular as a Vet with VoC buff.

• +10% Toughness/sec (even without teammates)
• +50% Toughness when bubble finally pops.

[lethal lagoon]

Makin fun of my plasteel, makin me literally run a game 😡

[plucky flax]

280 xd

[lethal lagoon]

Also I've played way too much EP smite lately, my IQ has literally dropped below average

That zealot knew you made fun of me, because they tried way too hard

stole plasteel from my face

[plucky flax]

On psyker I still grab 400+

On zealot though I am speed

[lethal lagoon]

From my face 😡

[split oxide]

I have 53k excess diamantine.

[lethal lagoon]

I have 53k extra nuts.

[near wyvern]

I always wipe everything I can

[split oxide]

Mistakes are made when people try to steal kills from each other:
<cough>green circle chasers<cough>

[lethal lagoon]

I have literally never been beaten on the scoreboard by a player worse than me 🤷‍♂️
Vermintide was a bit different, but honestly this game is balanced enough.

Everytime I get beaten on the scoreboard they have more plasteel, pick up people from trappers faster, and do obj faster.

Just better team players in general

[stuck sinew]

Some of my smoothest runs come from times where I just hang back and let the team kill things while I watch for special/elite spawns

[cold ivy]

the one way i've beaten better team players is plasma gun vet

[split oxide]

What's a Cadia Mk4 Ass?

[cold ivy]

cuz that gun deletes everything with a health bar

otherwise yeah usually the more experienced/situationally-aware players tend to score much higher

[split oxide]

Back in the day when Purg was king.
Vets/Zellies would be out in the edge. trying to beat the flame DPS.
Stupid risks.

[karmic bloom]

do you spam smite with this build?

[half iron]

smite is your only weapon

[split oxide]

You Spam smite regardless.

• but spam never does real damage, it's for knocking them prone.
• you tap them rather than draining your peril.
• you can never 'accidentally pop' with smite.
  I dunno why you need Vent, that's for something else I guess?

[half iron]

do not pull out anything else or you will travel to the throne early

[stuck sinew]

Gotta vent so you can charge up for more smite

[lethal lagoon]

Kind of lmao

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

My single braincell fighting for it's life

[proper osprey]

Naw son benediction

[split oxide]

But "to knock them prone", you need to 'cease smite before you drain peril'.

• So you can go 100% peril with meh damage.
• or you can prone them 20x., while your team destroys them.

[stuck sinew]

Depends what "them" is

[proper osprey]

It still is king

[stuck sinew]

If it's just a horde of trash empowered smite will be enough to kill most of them

[proper osprey]

I love purg and bb

[split oxide]

It's still pretty good. Just not 'the only option' anymore.

[proper osprey]

[near wyvern]

Ahh yes so next time I don't kill anything so the team will surely have an easier time

[proper osprey]

If you don’t run bb why are you playing psyker

[split oxide]

Anything below mauler/mutie; tl;dr Void/FS

[proper osprey]

Ngl only thing I like smite for is elite spam and crusher spam

Other than that it’s not good

[near wyvern]

Cause BB is the weaker one of the three Blitzes and the only time you run it is with purgatus or flame trauma to access wildfire since smite has overlap with trauma and purga

[proper osprey]

Naw son boss damage

[near wyvern]

Gunker and purga is where the boss damage is

[proper osprey]

I usually pair bb with ep or disrupt destiny

[proper osprey]

[near wyvern]

You do purga max stacks into creeping flames and then do melee if you can and BB if you cannot melee

[split oxide]

BB is slow and nerfed.
It's still good for

• 'mystery sniper' in the dark
• monstrosity.

[proper osprey]

Kinetic res and ep

Fast ass bb

[plucky flax]

Loner good you can be away from team for plasteels picking.

[proper osprey]

Bro please

[plucky flax]

[split oxide]

chance is too low .. **OR **.. close ranged. (Purg)
You can make it work with Dome - cos those gunner will gang up on you.

[proper osprey]

We’re going to get you that bone’ead ok?

[plucky flax]

It's okay I win with it.

[stuck sinew]

Loner is great. Favourite psyker voice

[proper osprey]

That’s true I usually pick off gunners and such with bb

[proper osprey]

The female loner can get it

Bratty little psyker

Need zealot correction

[stuck sinew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1194646351741468672/BE_QUIET.gif?ex=65b11c1d&is=659ea71d&hm=c6a0d7aeacc479811d1a1d44c165a13e116e8382aae5d8d733932400dbdc1a24&

[proper osprey]

My fault og

[near wyvern]

BB spam is around 370 DPS on monstrosities, stop pretending that's good.

[proper osprey]

Who runs assail

Can’t imagine anyone running it seriously

After the heavy nerfs

Wish that didn’t happen it was fine where it was

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/mY2jlkkG5Cw?t=410

LMAO heavy nerfs

Link takes you to the relevant time

[split oxide]

It's not great, but choose:

• great damage
• accuracy (at long range, even nurgles can slither past pillars into tunnels to avoid you)

[proper osprey]

Blud unironically used assail

I don’t wanna run assail with ep

Against shotgun or some other elite spam is the only time it’s effective?

I’m good

It is effective there though

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/wNoJPFX64jk

[proper osprey]

But if I’m running scries I’m usually running gunker

[near wyvern]

Assail with creeping flames and DD there

[proper osprey]

Bro we know you love assail but it’s time to move on….

And who runs venting with assail what

I’ve seen that and all those psykers do is nothing and die

[near wyvern]

Well look the above video and that will be debunked, you will see a psyker pulling off heavy loads from the team with it

Time to move on to what? This engaging gameplay?

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

[split oxide]

There are many ways to play Psyker.
Some involve working as a team.
Some don't.

[proper osprey]

I will look into it

[proper osprey]

Smite? Ep?

[umbral helm]

the method is ultimately irrelevant, if the person doing it still gets decent results. you can sit here and argue efficiency until your lips fall off, but the clothes don't make the man. never have, never will.

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-sleep-dog-dawg-eeper-gif-5083970977419902566

Beloved scan this guys build

Scan this guys balls

[split oxide]

Like:

• some Vets will use VoC.
• some Vets will go Stealth.

[proper osprey]

If I see stealth vet I leave

Voc is way too good

[split oxide]

I wish there was a mod for the EnlightendPlayer-mod

[proper osprey]

My brain is sooo big

It’s like a water baby

It allows me to solo a mission and trapped by the trapper

At the end

It allows me to fling my mighty hammer

[split oxide]

I have been tempted to use it sometimes.
But now I just blame the GameDirector for matching me up with them.

[near wyvern]

Smite + warp siphons, look at the buff bar

[proper osprey]

If vet wasn’t straved for skill points and if his stealth worked like zealots it would be amazing but it’s poopy

[split oxide]

WarpSiphon + (FS+UnstablePower)

• +20% damage when I run-hot.
• +15% Toughness when I quell.

[proper osprey]

Oops

[near wyvern]

Also link to Atheneum which contains all my builds is in the video description

So there is your scanner

[shadow wigeon]

Stealth vet is great for taking care of objectives, get everything done on turbo regardless of what is going on. I love a cracked stealth vet, although they are few and far between. Frankly hardly see stealth vets these days anyway.....

[tropic scarab]

Psyker players. Why no double wall shield and always dome?

[proper osprey]

Toughness regen

[shadow wigeon]

I love double wall, but bubble just has more total utility in the end.

[split oxide]

1. Elevated ground.. Gunners shoot over it.
2. Attacks from all sides.
3. Toughness Regen.

[lethal lagoon]

Double wall is only useful for BB(I hang onto the past and can't move on) build.

[proper osprey]

I’ve seen few good ones I still live and die by voc

[umbral helm]

toughness gen, have to think less about placement, and people just like the word "bubble" I think

dome also hard stops BoN with the vomit among other things

[shadow wigeon]

1. Toughness regen
2. DR after bubble pops
3. Grenades land on the perimeter which is far away
4. Lasts really way too long
5. Walls get broken too quickly on really high intensity anyway

[lone ravine]

Wait the walls and dome have different HP?

[shadow wigeon]

Actually I don't know, but I meant by the special you block with wall

They just torch it

[proper osprey]

Only time I seen wall be good is against mutant spam

[shadow wigeon]

on HISTG, it's A+. But beyons that - mutant spam, hunting grounds - they blow it up instantly

[umbral helm]

yeah, specials running into the wall a bunch make them have less effective HP to dome, considering they deal with that + the usual gun spam

[split oxide]

Walls last about 10 sec under sustained gunner fire.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah they strike me as just fine vs gunners. It's the special that evaporate them.

[ornate hamlet]

Associates, the lex atoma says the chefs do not actually kiss. It is a figure of speech

[shadow wigeon]

Double walls are really fun though, should be used more. But I think hard pass on mael with muties or hunting grounds.

[tropic scarab]

I watch my brother use double wall and it just seems vastly superior to the dome. You can pace the shields as as you move forward and can be used to block annoying specials that may come up behind your team that isn't paying attention. Just seems people are using the dome for the DR and toughness regen more than anything else.

[proper osprey]

My beloveded says all savants get shot into the sun how wonderfu!

I hate the savant psyker so much….

[shadow wigeon]

I mean the DR is huge. It patches over team problems you're not even aware of. So that's why it ends up being better overall.
I find bubble a bit boring, but it's very reliable.

[proper osprey]

Makes me evil

[split oxide]

gunner protection is also useful

[umbral helm]

they're nice if you can learn how to best place them to suit your needs, buffs aside it's usually because of the bullet point I mentioned of "have to think less about placement"

[ornate hamlet]

youre allowed to be wrong its ok

[tropic scarab]

Which the walls can do since most of the time the gunners are in front of you.

[shadow wigeon]

almost forgot
6. Put a Slug In A Bubble

[split oxide]

I've never had domes fail on me.

• I guess the Specials are responsible. But gunners worry me more.

[shadow wigeon]

Walls are great on HISTG. I think they're fun but uneccesary below HISTG, and they fall apart on too many maels, is the real issue.

[proper osprey]

My reaction

[umbral helm]

flamers, trappers, gunners of all kinds, BoN, basically anything with a "projectile" of sorts just gets hard denied even standing inside the bubble. just evaporates and isn't allowed to exist

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, I would give walls about the same credit as bubble for most things, but s Sluggo is so big that bubble has an edge there.

[split oxide]

We've wailed on BoN and flamers that were in a circle. It worked well.

[umbral helm]

ye, their utility is relatively even. bubble's just easier to use for most people, and people tend to take the path of least resistance

[plush oak]

Warp charges bobble = ❤️

100% bobble uptime

[umbral helm]

I remember when it was bugged to be instant

I made a dumb meme build that leaned fully into it, spent one mission slowly making a walkway for the team where we'd inch forward with bubbles

[split oxide]

Yup, two, sometimes three psykers with bubbles is funny.

[plush oak]

That sounds great

[shadow wigeon]

Purg + Walls + EP BB synergizes quite a bit. Not super strong, but pretty fun in terms of options.

[umbral helm]

it made any "hold out in this position while something happens" portion of missions stupidly easy, because any time you had just 1 warp charge you'd slap another bubble down

you could probably recreate it somewhat with a build that leans into warp charges and enough cdr on ability, bonus points if you get a concentration stim

won't be instant like the bug but it'll probably be close enough

[shadow wigeon]

You can get 3 bubbles out at a time if you really try

with stim

I typically run Surge/Flames, swapped to bubble for a run. Mercing elites quick enough and can keep plopping bubbles down.

[umbral helm]

I run bubble with my voidstrike setup, typically. I tend to bring it out when I'm introducing a friend to the game, give them some cover while they get the hang of the basics

I should just run it more, in general. but I've been spending a lot of time learning trauma because it was my least used and everyone's always going on about blazing trauma

[near wyvern]

Yes dome has more HP

[summer prairie]

seeing double

[shadow wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/pew-pew-courtney-marie-andrews-courtney-marie-andrews-channel-irene-shooting-gif-18438043

[near wyvern]

Why hand cannon + surgical on agripinaa revolver?

[umbral helm]

one of those "spot the difference" puzzles

[summer prairie]

they have another roll

I just haven't used it yet

[near wyvern]

Sustained Fire and hand cannon is the way to go

Then you weave 2 assail LMB into one hip fired revolver shot and repeat

Assail gets hand cannon & +20% damage from sustained fire

You will basically never ever use the RMB on agripinaa unless you are super fucked cause you will run out of ammo faster than a rumbler ogryn

[paper loom]

I use a Demios force sword, when fighting hordes when is best to block and when to attack?

[umbral helm]

thinking about the yeehaw made me picture us getting an ability that lets us slow down time and it's like the psyker equivalent of dead eye, the implementation (let alone balancing) nightmare that'd be aside

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think so. But walls take HP damage whenever elites/specials pass through it.

[young ridge]

Generally block if they're about to hit you, and attack whenever not getting hit

https://tenor.com/view/when-i-explained-about-symptoms-of-coronavirus-to-my-family-donald-trump-gif-trending-gif-18540578

[ionic needle]

Block when it's not safe to attack, attack when it's not not safe to attack

[paper loom]

Lol I understand that:) but when it's a horde some are attacking some not

[umbral helm]

you can also shove to generate openings/space

[paper loom]

I've noticed I get overwhelmed alot in Auric by hordes

[ionic needle]

Throw away the deimos and roll a ds mk 4 instead, put shred on it and just slap everything in the face

[umbral helm]

to be fair deimos isn't on paper "designed" for hordes, it's more singular. you can use it for hordes but there's a slight skill check to it compared to just waxing up an illisi and cleaving

[paper loom]

Yea im searching for a decent one , my demios claps things in no time its got nice rolls

[young ridge]

Yeah deimos isn't a horde weapon

It does ok, but not a strong choice

[paper loom]

Yea thats why I'm asking you see:) sorry if that sounds like I'm being an arse its just I'm thinking do I try and round them up let team mates deal

[umbral helm]

I used it for hordes for a while, it's just positioning and angling mostly. aside from that it's the basics of any melee, knowing when to block and shove, dodge etc

[paper loom]

Yea just practice more I guess

[ionic needle]

What ranged weapon are you pairing it with?

[paper loom]

Revolver

I'm thinking of changing it, I always score the lowest even tho I'm taking care of every bomber,sniper gunner etc that cones along

[ionic needle]

So yeah then you have two weapons doing the same job pretty much

[paper loom]

I have smite for cc

Well maulers

[shadow wigeon]

In addition to blocking, don't forget to push if you get crowded.

[ionic needle]

And dodging!

[paper loom]

Yea I mostly dodge , does blocking block everything?

[shadow wigeon]

The scores don't really mean anything. If you care about your performance then elite/special kills or elite/special damage are what you might look to be topping.

[ionic needle]

No, blocking costs stamina depending on your block efficiency and damage of the blocked attack. If you get KD the stamina cost is translated to peril instead.

[paper loom]

Sorry for noob questions, I've mostly got by by dodging now im doing Auric im getting found out lol

[umbral helm]

everything besides a mauler/crusher overhead, or a grab. you also don't typically have to be looking at the attack to block it, either

[shadow wigeon]

All but a few pass-through attacks - crusher/mauler overheads.
I wouldn't bother blocking hordes - save it for bigger things - but use your dodge, use your push.

[shadow wigeon]

Blocking has a very wide arc. When in doubt, block. If you think it's from behind, block and turn. You don't have to be perfect, the block is very generous.

[umbral helm]

some weapons are better at blocking than others, but kinetic deflection tends to make that a non issue

[ionic needle]

Pushing actually works around you as well. It's possible to push a poxburster or dog coming from behind.

[paper loom]

So if I hear the noise I can block even tho it's behind me?

[split oxide]

If you turn around fast enough.

[paper loom]

That's handy

[shadow wigeon]

You need to turn, but not that much (as in you don't have to perfeclty face the attack or anything). The block angle is generous.

[umbral helm]

with all the audio issues I tend to not trust the sound cues and just block while dodging to be extra defensive, but that's just me

[paper loom]

Will practice that

[split oxide]

Practice knocking over Maulers.

[paper loom]

Yea I wish the meat grinder actually had mobs that attack

[shadow wigeon]

There is a mod

[split oxide]

There's a couple of mods for that.

[paper loom]

Oh didn't realise il check that

[shadow wigeon]

But test out how strong your force sword push is while you are there

People don't push enough

[umbral helm]

that's going to be an answer you'll hear a lot, whenever a QoL issue is brought up. there's quite a few that are just things that should be standard features

[paper loom]

What stat controls the power of a swords push?

[split oxide]

Nothing - but you will still fail if your stamina is zero

[paper loom]

Ah ok

[umbral helm]

need at least 2 "blocks" of stamina to do a successful push, usually

[shadow wigeon]

Among the many reasons Kinetic Deflection is so good. Stamina to spare while blocking with peril.

[split oxide]

<laughs in CrusherOverhead>

[shadow wigeon]

to the left, to the left, to the right, to the right

[summer prairie]

test the range too https://streamable.com/nmkxyq

[shadow wigeon]

Psykers are actually complete assholes with force sword push. You're just a bully. A wheezy bully.

[umbral helm]

also I believe specifically what they're referring to is the push attack of force swords, where you hold it and push outwards, which if you hit the head will knock over a lot of things, like ragers or maulers. doesn't really affect crushers but most things don't

except, oddly, that special poke that mk4 dueling sword has

just a little "dink" to the helmet and they're suddenly reeling

[split oxide]

I think you can push crushers.

[umbral helm]

can you? never noticed if so

[summer prairie]

you have to push twice

[umbral helm]

ah, fair enough

[shadow wigeon]

Two pushes and you tubmle crushers

[umbral helm]

well, there you go

[shadow wigeon]

Buy your team loads of time

[split oxide]

<6x crushers turn the corner>

[umbral helm]

speaking of that little poke dueling sword has it also works on mutants if you hit their head. I love interrupting their charge just to spite them sometimes

just boop their nose and go "no, bad. stop"

[shadow wigeon]

You can push a lot of crushers if you want to. Stam comes back quick. I don't know what the limits are...

[split oxide]

I play OgrynShovel19 a lot.

[summer prairie]

you need stamina to start a push but it doesn't matter for the force push strength

[umbral helm]

y'know I've never tested it, does the little force push on laspistols behave similarly?

[summer prairie]

not really

[umbral helm]

so it's like a neutered version that costs peril, then

[summer prairie]

it hits more targets and goes through walls but has less stagger

it's more like a regular push with range

since it also uses stamina and requires it for good stagger

[umbral helm]

so theoretically if you were willing to spam it a bunch you could really annoy the enemies while shooting at them with an angry flashlight

[hushed egret]

it's a weakspot hit by default, you dont have to aim it

as long as you aim it at the enemy

and I dont think you can shoot while pushing with the laspistol but I might be wrong?

[umbral helm]

I swear I've had times where I didn't hit them in their weakspot, but I'm prone to forgetting details like that when I don't pay attention much

[hushed egret]

if you go in the meat grinder, no matter where you hut it's a weakspot hit for some reason

[umbral helm]

also no, you'd just shoot after pushing a couple times

[hushed egret]

yeah fair

[umbral helm]

it'd be a funny little "hey, stop it. stop" and you'd pew pew before nudging them again with your little hand wave

[queen moss]

oh... oh good lord

[plush oak]

Average brunt banger

[hushed egret]

[haughty star]

Can this push a rager or mauler out of sequence?

[hushed egret]

ye

[lyric crow]

I'm struggling with learning how to play staff psyker

Any tips to make my teammate's experience less miserable?

[shadow wigeon]

Yes but be careful with ragers who are swining on you - your push takes a moment to activate. But you can dodge back and still have lots of push range

[lyric crow]

I'm only lvl19 tho

[rare storm]

Find a staff that suits you

[rare storm]

k nvm get to lv30 first

[haughty star]

Staves suck before level 30

[rare storm]

A lot of the staves become 10x better once you get to lv30 because of synergies

[lyric crow]

I guess i should stop trying to beat heresy

[haughty star]

Lol yeah that would be a start

[rare storm]

You can easily clear heresy and under by spamming assail

[lyric crow]

I thought if i could do it as zealot then i could do it with staff psyker

[haughty star]

I mean you say that but...

Leveling psyker is ass lol. Ogryn and zealot can handle heresy at mid levels. Not psyker lol

[rare storm]

idk it's a pretty brainless gameplay tho

So I kinda avoid it

[lyric crow]

I've seen ppl use assail in my heresy runs

Less than impressed tbh

[haughty star]

You don't have the perks to "spam" assail at 19

[rare storm]

You do

[haughty star]

You need a capstone to make assail worth a damn lol

[dull osprey]

go into meat grinder and learn how much ur staff can do

[haughty star]

Level 19 psyker is not heresy material I feel like most would agree

[dull osprey]

how many charge attacks to kill certain mobs

whats the last peril limit u can still do a full cast over 100 etc

and practice the R cancels for animations a bit

[rare storm]

Of course it gets better, but to level psyker, all you really need is a full noded assail, soulstealer, mettle and perfect timing

[dull osprey]

then do that again while dodging and slidin

= profit

[rare storm]

I'm sure most of the frequent or psyker mains would say otherwise

It really is very easy

[vocal cliff]

It is actually

[rare storm]

just got to play a bit differently

[vocal cliff]

I started my runs earlier

[dull osprey]

syker is one of the best when low geared/leveled because lot of his stuff are guaranteed utility and his assail/brain burst scales with difficulty level

[rare storm]

I've done damnation with a 3 stack of lv10 psykers just spamming assail and running around

Not recommended

but pretty fun imo lol

[haughty star]

Just get a Columnus auto gun and a force sword and stack up experience on your curios lol these guys act like they never leveled a psyker before

You get more xp from winning every 3 than you do from failing half your fours

[vocal cliff]

The average 3-4 psyker pub

Either things go smoothly

Or chaos

[dull osprey]

nah but why would i autogun syker when staff exists i can play that on the other 2

[lyric crow]

It is what it is i guess

[haughty star]

For leveling staffs suck ass

[rare storm]

this

[lyric crow]

I had a 3 psyker pub earlier

It was chaos

At least we had constant bubbles

[rare storm]

Everything that shoot sucks while leveling compared to having lv30 gear lol

Just play the game how you like* man

[haughty star]

Lol

[rare storm]

Sorry edited to make it sound less pagro, didn't intend it that way

[spice veldt]

trauma is the only one with silly stat scaling

[haughty star]

I'm just saying lol 4 is doable but you're gonna make more xp winning every 3 than relying on pubs to work with you through a 4

Regardless of what anyone says hard carrying a 4 on a keystoneless 2 curio psyker is nigh impossible lol

[rare storm]

or be the one to carry

Assail to win!

Pysker stonk

[haughty star]

Assail ain't that strong without the perks lol

[rare storm]

you don't need many perks for it to be strong

[haughty star]

It's hardly great with em imo lol

[rare storm]

That's your opinion then

It's just basically a free extra wep for people leveling that doens't need any funding

[haughty star]

I mean there's bb

[rare storm]

I can argue bb is ass without any perks too

[haughty star]

Then you can at least boss or do shit to crushers

[lyric crow]

I've been pairing a surge staff with the illisi

[rare storm]

More so than assail

[lyric crow]

But they only have 50% stats

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike

[rare storm]

Or just charge up a force sword

[spice veldt]

this topic comes up every time and people forget that psyker has access to pretty good uncanny strike melees

[rare storm]

d4 on top

[spice veldt]

and uncanny strike exists at all 4 tiers so itemization isn't too much of an issue

[rare storm]

For the longest time I've only had t2 uncanny

Still so good lmao

wait I still only have t2

fok

[haughty star]

Payker was hands down my least favorite char to level

Fucker really loves its perks

[spice veldt]

psyker was fine for me to level cuz i just spammed the shit out of purg

[rare storm]

Psyker was pretty easy for me

[spice veldt]

though it was my second class

[haughty star]

I don't like the staves

[rare storm]

The most annoying and still is is veteran for me

[haughty star]

Dude vet is like one of the strongest if not the strongest char in the game rn lol

[rare storm]

Eh, don't like it

[haughty star]

VOC broken

[rare storm]

If I wanted to play cod I'd go play cod

is how I treat vet

[haughty star]

I'm sure you like your teammates having it when you down yourself with assail lol

[hushed egret]

vet doesnt play like cod tbh

[haughty star]

Yeah dude don't vet obviously

[rare storm]

You don't psyker either

lol

I have not downed myself with assail or any peril in a long while

[haughty star]

My psyker is level 48 on scoreboard so I got a lil experience on it lol

[spice veldt]

don't worry, i down myself with my staff more than with assail nowadays

[quartz barn]

Downing yourself with peril is pretty hard

[rare storm]

This tho

Idk why man

[spice veldt]

i try to edge purgatus too much and get greedy

[quartz barn]

Only really happens whe n youre already edging and accidentally shoot due to stagger

[rare storm]

I get the staves peril charge wrong sometimes or just think, MAYBE ONE MORE CHARGE

[spice veldt]

i swapped to venting shriek just so that I stopped killing myself randomly

[haughty star]

Idk how yall pop so much lol I think I've popped like maybe 8 times in my whole psyk experience

[quartz barn]

Who said i pop a lot lol

[rare storm]

Edging for the constant 80% buff is fun

[rare storm]

and this

[spice veldt]

cuz i've played a lot of psyker and I'm sure to have popped quite a few times

[quartz barn]

Literally never happens

[spice veldt]

i also play psyker intermittently nowadays so I get rusty

[hushed egret]

popping isnt difficult tbh

[quartz barn]

Only people i see that blow themselves up suck overall

[rare storm]

It really isn't

[hushed egret]

it's not hard to do it from time to time. just slips your mind at the wrong time or you push a little too hard and bam

[rare storm]

but it just slips

[rare storm]

ye

[hushed egret]

it takes an active effort to avoid is my point

so it takes at least some amount of attention to not pop

[quartz barn]

Wait how does it slip your mind

[rare storm]

You kinda get a feel with how much you can chuck out before needing to quell tho

[spice veldt]

insane tunnel vision on greeding for a kill

[rare storm]

At some point it becomes muscle memory

[haughty star]

I play scriars right now with a illyses and dd so I'm always at 80 to 100 percent with charge to proc warp rider and unstable

[quartz barn]

If you edge at 80% you always follow a rythm of charge shoot vent repeat

[hushed egret]

game is super chaotic and intense.

[rare storm]

Wanting to get that weakspot hit on the pogryn flailing around with void gets me to pop sometimes

lulw

[hushed egret]

not saying I do it often but it isnt hard to see why people would

[quartz barn]

I guess? But its onlu truly chaotic whenever you have to solo multiple sides

Horde management with staves is easy

[haughty star]

I have a really nice stave

It's a surge that's all over 70 percent

[hushed egret]

with horde management staves

[haughty star]

Well see if hadron lets it be good

[hushed egret]

which is trauma and purgatus

[quartz barn]

Additionally combine it with ds and use your charge shot while mid extended slide dodge

[rare storm]

void is a good horde management staff too

pew pew

bam bam

[hushed egret]

not nearly as much as the other two

[umbral helm]

get used to it, but for someone new or that doesn't play very intensively it's a lot of micromanagement, not complicated just a lot of small details to keep track of in the heat of everything else, easy to slip up when you're not accustomed to that

[rare storm]

If you have quell peril on it

or surge

You wipe hordes

[hushed egret]

never as much as a trauma or purgatus will

[quartz barn]

The explosion on void also fears enemies

[haughty star]

Almost every assail or stave psyker I've ever played with pops at least once even on damnation or auric lol

[quartz barn]

So they were bad lmao

[rare storm]

They're ass then

[hushed egret]

tbh assail psykers are the ones paying the least attention in most cases

[rare storm]

If you base it on that

[hushed egret]

they're the scout mains who play the magic class for guns

[rare storm]

Every vet and zealot I play with gets downed at least 3x

So that makes every vet and zealot ass

[umbral helm]

one of my friends doesn't like psyker much because of it, so he prefers to play zealot and m1 spam with the new eviscerator. head empty, rip and tear

[haughty star]

The new eviscerator is so poggers

[quartz barn]

Ngl that mindset is super common for zealots xd

[hushed egret]

all the weapons are w's

game has great weapon design

[quartz barn]

Me doing random twin runs with zealots moment

[haughty star]

Couple that with a bolter for general all purpose heavy downing and zealot pretty poggers

[hushed egret]

every class is

[plucky flax]

Knife zealot is very based. The speed.

[hushed egret]

sparkead, shouty, sah, and slab

[haughty star]

Albeit if im playing with more than one psyker I usually rock the wanna be voice of command zealot got so I consistently have teammates

[hushed egret]

huh

[umbral helm]

I play psyker because I like caster type roles, and psyker is close enough to that in Warhammer. as some friends have coined it; Shadow Psyker Ordo Gang

[haughty star]

Fills in the holes in between the shield drops. Alot of psykers lean on the shield real bad in damnation and auric

[hushed egret]

fair

[umbral helm]

I actually haven't seen a shield psyker in a while, but I do granted only play these days to group up with a friend or two when they're in the mood to play

[hushed egret]

gunners are hard to deal with, partly because they're poorly designed but we vibe

I can handle gunners if I need to but fuck those guys, I will use every resource in a heartbeat to kill a single gunner if necessary

death by smite for them

[umbral helm]

one of the ones I saw recently was hard mode twins, they'd use the dome during the gas phase. slap it in the middle to help people cross

[hushed egret]

yeet

[haughty star]

Bb Gunker moment

[hushed egret]

idk what that means

[haughty star]

Brain burst lol

[hushed egret]

ah ye

[haughty star]

Grab em and slide while charging

Pop before slides over lol

[shadow wigeon]

Scrier's Gaze would like to have a chat

[rare storm]

I've actually been running scriers with staves recently

Very fun

[hushed egret]

what's gunker mean

[rare storm]

Scrier+void with dd

Big stonk damage

[formal ridge]

is anyone else kinda bored with the game...

[umbral helm]

gun psyker

[hushed egret]

ah

[formal ridge]

Im trying to motivate myself to play but I have like god roll everything

theres no point anymore...

[rare storm]

Get the worst rolls possible

[formal ridge]

I would for a force sword

I wish there were more cosmetics or something I could unlock without paying, already bought basically everything with real money and with dockets

[rare storm]

I think somebody here has a purg with 10% charge or a trauma with 10% blast rad

Shit was funny

[umbral helm]

find something else to do. I tend to default to invading in Dark Souls/Elden Ring when I don't feel like playing other things. or read a book. been reading a lovely book series by David Eddings

[noble copper]

i love it when i'm trying out empowered smite and the teammates are speedrunners 🙂

[formal ridge]

yeah id be playing street fighter but my hands messed up

[haughty star]

I'm using scrier+dd with a illyses with unstable and slaughter and edging peril to complement both and its downright savage lol

When funni magic man does more melee damage than melee man or gun damage than funni gun man

[rare storm]

Or try playing a more casual relaxed game

[haughty star]

[rare storm]

I've been back on rdr2

and the hunter cotw lol

[rare storm]

that shit is GREAT

a melee god

[haughty star]

Crackhead gameplay

[umbral helm]

Stardew Valley is a nice relaxing time

[haughty star]

[rare storm]

one of the more fun melee only builds I played lmao

[haughty star]

Risking sounding like a noob here but I'm 80 percent sure I literally can't build a more well rounded melee zealot

[rare storm]

Or terraria calamity mod

New reworked bosses are out

[rare storm]

idk, I'm leveling zealot for the first time too now

Hammer is fun af lmao

[umbral helm]

true. I was talking to some friends about a modded terraria playthrough soon, we might get on that

[rare storm]

sometimes melee psyker feels more fun than a zealot I won't lie

but I haven't given it the same amount of time so I won't judge YET

[rare storm]

yee it's great, REALLY fun

I love playing summoner based classes

and calamity added a lot of fun summons

And if your friend group isn't into speedrunning literally everything

Can be a very nice chill grind

[umbral helm]

casters, so I'm usually the mage

[rare storm]

since calamity has a fuck load of content

Yee calamity is for you

Calamity mages are so strong lmao

[umbral helm]

mages tend to get the most love with mods in general, which I won't complain about, but there does seem to be a bias in the modding community there

[rare storm]

I haven't played calamity in awhile but from what I remember, they're quite even in the classes

I know thorium is very biased to mages tho

or wayward

Can't remember which

[haughty star]

I use power mail mostly so I'm basically a glorified snowplow

[rare storm]

hmm might go back to modded terraria, went searching for the mods and alot of cool shit popped up lol

[haughty star]

But it's a good role to play for damnation lol

[rare storm]

Sounds great lmao

Haven't tried to new evis too

[umbral helm]

I never was a fan of calamity's boss design philosophy early on, so I've always been iffy on the mod in general, but it does do a lot of cool things, been glad to hear a lot of things are getting reworked

[rare storm]

Gona be grinding for those

[haughty star]

It's not high damage but it bowls literally everything over with no fucks given

[rare storm]

my maul/crusher is still EHHH in the perks and blessings, so much more to grind

[rare arrow]

Terraria calamity?

[haughty star]

I just went for both of the impact blessings on maul lmao

Am become bowling angry religious ball

[rare storm]

oh yeah definitely, it's really basically an entire other game and not an expansion on Terraria so I can see what you mean

[rare storm]

Yee

[rare arrow]

My last clear on the hardest difficulty was with summoner

That mod is real good

[rare storm]

Plower of the infested

[rare arrow]

By far the best terraria mod

[haughty star]

I can't stress enough how hilarious it is

[rare storm]

You should try thorium too

[rare arrow]

I did

[rare storm]

Ayee

I tried to be a bard

[rare arrow]

Don’t mix them

[rare storm]

Shit was

Hard

[haughty star]

Ya know those packs of like 6 to 10 crushers with mixed ragers and maulers?

[rare arrow]

Thorium is very mediocre compared to calamity

[umbral helm]

my problem with it was that they originally conflated "big number" with difficulty, like a lot of people unfortunately do, and you couldn't speak against it or get shit from fanboys, turned me off for a while

[rare storm]

Thorium is a lot closer to what an expansion of Terraria would be tho

[umbral helm]

I have the same problem with master mode, when that got added to base terraria

[rare storm]

But ye I do agree, calamity definitely best mod no contest

[haughty star]

Something so disrespectful about charging that thing and smacking the fuck out of em until they just give up on continued existence

[rare arrow]

It adds so much content including the boss rush at the end

[haughty star]

Literally just wait till they get up charge it and put em back down lmao

[rare arrow]

And is difficult enough to satisfy me

I wish Darktide was harder

[rare storm]

What dyou mean by this

As in, just making bosses have higher hp bars?

[umbral helm]

this was early early in development of it, so it hasn't been an issue for years

[rare storm]

ohh yeeeee bwoiii I accidentally did one of the penances with this

Absolute glory lmao

[umbral helm]

before they started doing things like changing boss AI and adding new mechanics

[rare storm]

ahhhhh okay I get

[umbral helm]

that initial first impression I had stuck with me for a while

[rare storm]

Eh comes natural I guess, as time goes on, the modders get a whole lot better

So they can do much more

Won't blame them for doing simple things to make the game seem a bit harder

at the start

[umbral helm]

ye, it's just disappointing that for a lot of people that's the default, even if they're capable of more. difficulty is big number

[rare arrow]

If I could get a Darktide mod that doubles spawns I’d be happy

Was always nice in terraria when you could kick spawns up to 10x lol

[rare storm]

let me see if I can find a recent clip of one of the new reworked bosses

Whole new attack patterns and stuff

Really nice

[rare arrow]

Calamitus is a good example

I’m sure there are tons of vids of that fight

[rare storm]

oh calamitus was changed so many times lmao

[rare storm]

There TECHNICALLY is?

But I think you can only play it on the true solo mod

[umbral helm]

yeah, she's seen a lot of changes over the years

[rare storm]

or only private lobbies

[rare arrow]

I just want the next step up from aurich Damnation

The talent tree gave so much power to players that the game has felt too easy for a while now

Maelstrom is fun

Twins was fun until I got my banner

For the most part that boss style fight is boring in DT

[rare storm]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G12TtMRSZjY

This was the clip I saw

[haughty star]

I'm pretty comfy in heresy maelstrom

[rare storm]

Looks great lmao

[umbral helm]

my devotion to difficulty is entirely based on whims, honestly. I have to find it fun, regardless of how hard it is. because the ability (or not) to do something doesn't always correlate to "enjoyable"

[haughty star]

Damnation I'm mostly just doing regular missions

[rare storm]

fuuck I still need to get my hardmode banner

[haughty star]

Gotta have a tight team to play with modifiers in damnation lol

[rare arrow]

I did a Damnation regular and it felt empty

[rare storm]

Been away from my pc since the twins dropped

Still haven't really given it a proper try

[haughty star]

Dingleballs

[rare arrow]

Hard mode twins requires 2 real good players or 4 coordinated players

[haughty star]

Is hard mode twins just damnation?

Or something more sadistic

[rare arrow]

It’s a special mode harder than the Damnation version

Also no revives

Death is permanent

[rare storm]

It's a "secret" mode for it

[haughty star]

Wtf lol I haven't even done damnation yet

[rare arrow]

You have to do some shit to unlock bells

[rare storm]

If you die and respawn you get put in a cage lul

[haughty star]

I got er done on heresy and that was a proud moment

[rare arrow]

Well, you have to ring 7 bells to unlock bells

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-bell-gif-27646997

[rare arrow]

Then ring those bells to get into hard mode

[rare storm]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995700310

Here's a guide for it if you ever want to try

[rare arrow]

Grab a good psyker and a good zealot and you can clear it

[haughty star]

The bosses weren't too bad

[rare arrow]

Psyker for area control with bubble pref, zealot with boss damage

[umbral helm]

twins are faster, you get more elite spawns, and you get shooters at intervals as well as a couple crushers

[rare arrow]

I did it as a zealot and I could pop both shields if I didn’t have to deal with the horse

[rare storm]

Heressy and damnation bosses are very easy

[rare arrow]

Ideally, you have 4 coordinated people and do 1 person per boss, 1 person on horde, and 1 flex

[haughty star]

Maybe at your skill/gear ceiling lol

Most of my builds still need attention but I'm spread out across all four chars

[rare storm]

ehhhhh ish...?

[umbral helm]

people have to work as a team for it, and with how many people avoid doing that like it's a disease it was never really a surprise to me that people found twins difficult

[rare storm]

My first clear I did on my zealot, about lv36

[rare arrow]

Level 36?

[haughty star]

Psykers got my attention til I get this scriars build done

[rare arrow]

The over level add on?

[umbral helm]

true level, yeah

[rare storm]

ye I just started playing zealot recently

Ye true level

[rare arrow]

I forget mine, 200? 400b something like that on zealot

Only around 150 on psyker

[haughty star]

Yee but how many hours in game did you have lol? Skill does cross classes on this game from what I've noticed

[rare storm]

Ye about same

To be fair

I only started really playing darktide after the update 13

[umbral helm]

I'm 220-something last I remember on psyker

[haughty star]

Actually playing with different classes usually makes me play better with my others cuz you're forced into different loops

[rare storm]

or whatever the update was which reworked everything

[rare arrow]

Hours? I have around 1k

[haughty star]

Yeah I'm at like 130 if that

[rare storm]

250hours for me

[umbral helm]

around 700, but I play in bursts, and half the time with a friend, so my hours are sporadic

[rare storm]

but 200+ hours since last year oct I think

[rare arrow]

I quit from April until talents came out

[rare storm]

I've been really grinding lolol

[rare arrow]

I just couldn’t anymore

Well closer to January actually

I had put 400 hours in by Jan/2023

[haughty star]

My steam says 175 but about a quarter of that was before 13 and a half of that was honestly afk cuz I forget to close it before bed sometimes lmao

[rare arrow]

But then quickly realized there was nothing left and after they fell short on countless promises I uninstalled to return when talents came out

[rare storm]

I only played darktide for about a month at launch, at that point, everything up till damnation was incredibly easy so my group got bored lol

[haughty star]

I abhorred this game when I started playing it

[umbral helm]

I just usually find it more fun with my friend, but I still lurk here because I like poking fun at people. sometimes I'm actually helpful

[haughty star]

Like bad endgame borderlands

[rare arrow]

Even Damnation was boring after a while. Though I got a lot of mileage out of it

[rare storm]

Ye it was pretty ass

Was a big let down from vermintide

But it came back

IT DID COME BACK

[haughty star]

Once the trees came out tho it's now like gory borderlands for me lol

[rare storm]

[haughty star]

Still prefer high mayhem level bl3 content but this is what my friends play soo

[rare storm]

ah bl3 was great

If only tiny tina's wonderland was half as good

[dim parrot]

what is your favorite boss to fight?

[haughty star]

The newer spooky one

[dim parrot]

I am confusion

[umbral helm]

I liked borderlands 3, but after thousands of hours of 2, gameplay-wise it just felt like... more of 2. so I was like "this is nice, but I'm burnt out"

[haughty star]

Eh bl3 isn't fun until at least mayhem 4

[dim parrot]

I quite like the platform boss

[haughty star]

Most of the great guns don't even unlock until mayhem six

I always liked phazezerker amara

[umbral helm]

I picked the robot guy purely because he was voiced by prozD and I like his robot voice

[haughty star]

Big chunky damage

Zane was okay but soooo fucking basic lol

Like using that obnoxiously loud stave and bubble shield for psyker or the stupid speedy bleedy knife build for zealot lol

[rare storm]

Was phazezerker a melee build for amara

[haughty star]

If I see literally everyone using something I don't like it

[rare storm]

I actually remember 0 things about bl3 lmao

[haughty star]

Noooo it focused on ties that bind

[rare storm]

Maybe time to play it again

[haughty star]

Worked best with anyway

[rare storm]

ahhh the stunlock cc skill

Fine maybe I'll dl bl3 again

[haughty star]

Lock everything in place shoot the floaty guy and everything explodes around you

[umbral helm]

I remember thinking the twins were an identity crisis where they wanted to recapture the magic Handsome Jack had while still being unique, and not liking them. aside from that same

[rare storm]

The only thing about the twins I remembered was that from the start I knew one of them was gona betray the other

[haughty star]

I had all characters at mayhem 10 level before I switched from console lmao

[umbral helm]

I didn't make it very far because burnout but, I tended to not go past UVHM in 2 because I dislike being shoehorned into doing certain things to keep up with the increasing numbers

[frozen osprey]

THEY RECYCLED THE PSYKER MINISET I WANTED TO BE UNIQUE I LIKED HAVING THE OLD STUFF

[rare storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnpWtNH1pNU oo damn

Not sure if good or bad

ah fucking searching for shit is screwing with my yt home page

fuck me

[haughty star]

Bl3 was good for gun diversity

[rare storm]

I just cleaned it up

[haughty star]

It had some dark times but in its current state there's many different ways and things you can use for every class

Every class is viable for upper echelon content etc

[stone canyon]

Rare to see those points averaging so smoothly

[haughty star]

Kinda like this beaut

[west bronze]

ranged weakspot damage

[haughty star]

Yeah I know lol

I still got one chance at it not being ass lol

[west bronze]

you do

[haughty star]

Hadron usually does not smile upon me tho

[west bronze]

now pray to the machine god

[haughty star]

I have surgical 4 for revolver

Deflector 4 for force swords

And unstable for force swords

[west bronze]

nice

[haughty star]

Oh also dumb dumb four for the Columbus

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/unsure-undecided-confused-larry-david-gif-14178026

[prime elk]

Worth it for the memes

I have a csword with that combo of blessings

Very fun

[haughty star]

Mother of God

[upper sun]

I never get stuff with level 4 blessings at melks is there like a hidden block on blessing tiers?

like do i have to have a certain playtime or missions played or smth?

[mental rock]

Lol no

As long as you are lvl30

It's just RNG bro

[gray jetty]

Just be lucky dude

[upper sun]

i dont believe this I think they're doing something wonky on the backend

[vocal cliff]

It's true

Tzeench

The one behind all this

[upper sun]

maybe i should keep my game running all night or grind a lot of level 1 missions or something

[left basin]

i haven't played in a month

[mental rock]

I got t4 blessings in melk's immediately after I hit lvl30, it's just luck

[haughty star]

Argh the blessing grind is real

[mental rock]

Hell, once I hit 30 on vet I didn't even play on my vet anymore till I got PC4

[upper sun]

nah my paranoid schizophrenia is too real to believe its purely rng

[haughty star]

Made 12 blue illyses the last 12 hours and not one iteration of slaughter

https://tenor.com/view/kms-tied-up-kille-me-now-gif-14016550

[upper sun]

There has to be another level of added difficulty for "player retention"

[prime elk]

I keep getting level four blessings for axes. I don’t use axes.

[left basin]

i've been rolling for a thrusthammer since nov22 2022

so it's all alright

i got the meta metaest psyker voidstaff almost as soon as i hit 30

before release

it's all just satanism

[fluid aspen]

First 3-stamina curio

[haughty star]

Bro same

[haughty star]

I fucking hate axes

And I got the mkii with like the best two grade four perks on it yesterday

[upper sun]

the average for the top 5 items in the store posted before is almost exactly 500 while mine is 475

nah there has to be something theres always something

[midnight jolt]

Kinetic Flayer isn't worth over Warp Battery right? (probably a dumb question, but is better to ask)

[upper sun]

can you guys post screenshots of your stores+play time i have a paranoid theory

[summer prairie]

What average

[upper sun]

average rating of top 5 weapons

[summer prairie]

Yes, but average based on many samples or what?

[upper sun]

would you be kind and share your play time with me for darktide?

[mental rock]

Yeah my theory is that you have confirmation bias

[upper sun]

the stuff in the store today

yeah im just trying to get more samples

[summer prairie]

There's no way the average of top 5 is anywhere close to 500

[gray jetty]

Melk sells slop 90% of the time

[haughty star]

What the new psk stuff do

[upper sun]

(538+526+497+477+465)/5

[near wyvern]

Kinetic Flayer is not worth it in general

[sly comet]

I hate this penance. I hate it. I really freakin' hate it. I want it to die and go away.

[haughty star]

I can't wait to get my illyses done

[summer prairie]

like sure you can roll that but a statistically significant average

[upper sun]

THE NUMBERS MASON what do they mean?!!?!?

[haughty star]

This build boutta bust

[haughty star]

I got that one unintentially

Think it was a bug because I've never used the warp charges keystone

[sly comet]

Bro, I can't play Psyker the way I want to play Psyker because of this stupid penance.

I want to use the Empowered Psionics keystone, but I can't because I want the green hood.

[haughty star]

Bro it's 300 seconds

[steep estuary]

Is 152 toughness 173 HP good enough? Sweapping my +3 stam curio to the +21% health curio puts me at 152 Tough and 205 HP

[sly comet]

That's 5 minutes straight. Uninterrupted.

[haughty star]

Just run a malice with it lol

[haughty star]

You can get similar results with all toughness with +5 health

[sly comet]

It's not that easy. Even with a full team helping, dumb stuff happens. Like running out of specials, or getting pinned, and losing my Warp Charges. It's not happening, no matter what I try.

[steep estuary]

Hmmm, my curios are a bit of a mess

[haughty star]

Dude it's malice lol

[orchid shadow]

It's actually tougher on malice. Fights are too short, not enough specials, lots of dead time inbetween fights

[steep estuary]

Couple bad rolls and poor past decisions too

[proven stirrup]

I swear I will never get tired of ChocoB's abject hatred of snipers.

[sly comet]

I went with a +3 Stamina curio, and two Toughness curios. It lets me do lots of melee damage.

[steep estuary]

Oh this is my health one

[sly comet]

Max Health goes over 20%?

I've never gotten one over 19%.

[steep estuary]

The stamina is nice, but I havent really noticed much of a difference tbh. I got a bunch of bars now. What do the stamina bars cover? Shoves and blocks?

[haughty star]

How in the world did I get it? I've only ever used empowered and Dd

[steep estuary]

I find the wounds handy since it lets me have the 3rd bar in higher difficulties and covers any problems that might arise

[haughty star]

Can go to 23 if im not mistaken

[willow hazel]

When things are going bad, I would rather have 20% HP than +1 wound.

[haughty star]

I'd just rather have the toughness tbh

Especially with med stims being fairly abundant

I've tried the extra health thing and most of the time when I screw up its on a scale that 20 percent in my health bar isn't gonna help lol

[steep estuary]

Hmmm fair

The wounds are nice for grimmies or any enemies with the ick

Wow that was a cursed sentence

[umbral helm]

considering making a meme at this point with how often it gets discussed that's the simpsons "don't make me tap the sign" and it just says that curios are personal preference

[steep estuary]

Might swap stam and health to see how it feels

TRUE

[haughty star]

I could maybe see that but I just won't grab grims on anything above damnation lol

[plush oak]

guys, whats the dump stat on surge?

[steep estuary]

Having a zealot to push corruption back is nice. Since the corruption resistance is on my wounds curio it helps prevent a full bar loss in a surprising amount of scenarios

[tulip kettle]

i think its quell speed

but im not sure

[plush oak]

i got this

[tulip kettle]

you definitely want crit bonus

[plush oak]

yeah, i thought so

[haughty star]

Mines got 80

[plush oak]

just my luck

[haughty star]

[plush oak]

god roll but not on what i want lmao

[tulip kettle]

i think charge rate and quell speed and least important

but i am far from the expert here.

[plush oak]

still works great as is

but i was just wondering

also what are best blessings?>

prolly what i have but t4 no?

[tulip kettle]

well i think flurry is bad

personally

because i find with surge staff you build peril soo quickly

[plush oak]

true, but u cut down on the peril u build while charging

[rare arrow]

For surge crit bonus is a fine dump stat

[plush oak]

ending up in more shots overall

yea doesnt seem that bad at 62

[tulip kettle]

i barely used surge and i like it the least

[rare arrow]

Low quell speed/warp res is fine depending on your build

[tulip kettle]

but my impression was its more for killing armoured elites

[wet belfry]

Good?

[rare arrow]

It’s weird that the tooltip reads “melee crit chance”

[plush oak]

brunt out here with the bangers 💀

[rare arrow]

It’s a gun

[tulip kettle]

its, okay

[wet belfry]

Facts its great.

[umbral helm]

I like surge because it feels snappy, but I've been giving it a break for a while

[tulip kettle]

well the thing is