psyker-class

[tulip kettle]

i have tried cutting to get PC

[trim valve]

One day I'll do the BB "trials", until then my psyker is stuck at like 60%.

[tulip kettle]

i found this the best

[primal plume]

I was lucky to get those done before the penance revamp

[long wharf]

okay

honestly, I'd drop the toughness gain nodes in your tree

[tulip kettle]

you really cannot spare to lose any of the toughness

[long wharf]

to pick up PC

[tulip kettle]

you dont get it any other way with this build

you wont get warp kills

you wont be getting meelee kills in high intensity moments

you will be getting shot at a fuck ton

[eager mantle]

Gonna throw up with how long it's been since running BB without EP

[tulip kettle]

you wont be quelling most of the time except the lifts

yeah its trash

dont get me wrong i hate it

but for me its the best choice to deal with the things i otherwise cant

crushers and bulwarks

if you prefer assail for that then great

[eager mantle]

I'll give it an honest try

[tulip kettle]

pretty much ignore your warp charges

just use scriers whenever you feel you need

and unlike what some seem to believe if you dont go crazy shooting trash ammo should be fine

[long wharf]

here's what I'd run

you're going to be quelling as your peril decays after SG

so it's not a wasted node

and with that tree, you get the 2 extra warp charges

[tulip kettle]

i think that is probably fine

[trim valve]

@tulip kettle I'll use your build, it will also help for my "get 100 kills with BB with max warp charges". Given that I have 0 I should start somewhere

[tulip kettle]

but you best be hitting a whole lot of weakspot kills quickly

[long wharf]

I mean, isn't that the point?

[ornate hamlet]

theyre gonna nerf truma staff?

it just seems so easy to use

[tulip kettle]

sometimes when things get hectic

youre just magdumping into a mass at headheight you know?

[trim valve]

Don't worry about trauma.

[ornate hamlet]

deletes hordes and elites by staggering them

[long wharf]

you do what you can, and you'll be rewarded for accuracy

just like with any build

except trauma

[ornate hamlet]

why is that?

[tulip kettle]

yeah its just a preference thing on anchor over precog

[eager mantle]

Stairs

[long wharf]

weekly and daily rollover, siblings

[eager mantle]

Grated stairs

[long wharf]

time to see what garbage Sour Milk is hocking today

[trim valve]

Compared with glitch Surge or Voidstrike at full power, is not that strong.

[tulip kettle]

and also you will be generating toughness at a slower rate, after scriers gaze

[trim valve]

(those got nerfed)

[ornate hamlet]

ah ok ill try those other two staffs

[tulip kettle]

rather thasn more quickly during it

[long wharf]

neither of these are things any more, so comparing anything to them for performance today is pointless

[trim valve]

Yeah, that's my point. Is weaker than stuff that got nerfed, is unlikely to get nerf in the near future the Trauma staff.

[long wharf]

the primary toughness gain is going to be from critting

the toughness gain from quelling is just a passive that you don't have to put any effort into

[trim valve]

Not even close in "power level"

[tulip kettle]

yeah it looks good honestly

i can see it working and you gain PC

[long wharf]

yep

PC is just so good

[tulip kettle]

like, it is

[long wharf]

it's one of the four nodes I try to always get

PC, dodge-when-crit, True Aim, and quell speed

[tulip kettle]

but i think with the way this build plays its not required

crazy

i think battle meditation is must have

[long wharf]

warp raider is also there, but it's so easy to get

[tulip kettle]

but your set up above doesnt have it

[long wharf]

well, because you don't need to quell

so there's no reason to worry about it

[tulip kettle]

you do need to quell with kills

on gunpsyker

[long wharf]

literally, the only time your peril goes up is when you pop SG

[tulip kettle]

else scriers ends immediately

[long wharf]

SG pauses whenever you kill

[tulip kettle]

like within a few seconds

[long wharf]

and the buff continues for 10 seconds after

[trim valve]

Never mind, I confused battle meditation with mind in motion. Battle meditation is a must in my opinion.

[tulip kettle]

yeah i know how it works

[long wharf]

man, almost none of my builds use Battle Meditation

but then I also about never use SG

[tulip kettle]

i think its great with flurry siphon voidstrike

[long wharf]

I don't run that, either

I prefer nexus+surge railgunstrike

[left dagger]

thanks hadron mommy not bricked at all. how should i optimzie this?

[long wharf]

sometimes, I even yell into the mic "Imma chargin mah lazerrrrr"

[long wharf]

rampage to uncanny strike

then pick the armor damage category of your preference

I like maniac for one-shotting mutants

[left dagger]

Rampage already tier IV pretty good tho. im torn on the combination of Uncanny Strike, Riposte, Shred, and Ramapge

[long wharf]

a dueling sword without uncanny strike is bricked, IMO

[tulip kettle]

i think shred, uncanny, carapace and maniac is meta, no?

[left dagger]

yeah Uncanny Strike is a given, then i kinda want to swap Shred with it since Shred is tier 3

[long wharf]

I'd keep shred

[tulip kettle]

tier 3 to 4 is such a negligible difference

[long wharf]

I don't prefer riposte, myself

[tulip kettle]

shred is much better

[left dagger]

so Shred, Uncanny, then Elite to maniac? tho i got my staffs for ragers already

[harsh urchin]

pretty much up to you

rampage is better against hordes

shred is better against bosses

[ornate hamlet]

Rampage is good for hordes, but if you are weaving assail it's not much of a concern

[harsh urchin]

riposte and precog are more for just fighting elites/bruisers

[ornate hamlet]

And shred makes heavies much easier to deal good damage with

[tulip kettle]

maniac lets you 1 shot mutants

[left dagger]

got staff for hrodes so i kinda want to build mk4 against Crushers and Maulers

[long wharf]

and there's little more satisfying as a psyker to face a charging mutant and poke it in the face once and it dies

I've killed entire congo-lines of mutants with my ds

[tulip kettle]

you have carapace and uncanny for that

[long wharf]

it's glorious

[tulip kettle]

i would say take maniac for the elite dmg and swap rampage for uncanny

if it was mine

which it is not

[left dagger]

thanks will do that then, Rmaapge for horde but i got staff arleady

[long wharf]

the ds can be "okay" for hordes, just not good

it does give you increased dodge distance, which is always nice

[tulip kettle]

can it cleave through 3 units with one hit? that seems a dumb question but...

[long wharf]

I uh don't know

[tulip kettle]

i dont know its moveset

[ornate hamlet]

first time doing psyker, had lv 30 ogryn and zealot before but this is so hard 😦

[tulip kettle]

i thought its assasin

[ornate hamlet]

psyker has so much style too however..

[long wharf]

let me check really quick, as I'm on my psyker right now

[tulip kettle]

off the top of my head the 4 can but the 5 cant

i cant test though

[spice veldt]

the strike down light should have less cleave

the other lights have 4.5 cleave

groaners have 1.25 hitmass, and poxwalkers 1.5 hitmass

[long wharf]

4.5 is enough to hit 3

[spice veldt]

iirc rampage lights should be able to hit 3 dreg bruisers

but not 3 scab bruisers

[tulip kettle]

awesome info arco thanks

same applies to 5 or it has less cleave?

[spice veldt]

I was on that rampage grindset

[tulip kettle]

i thought it has less

[spice veldt]

it should just be the third light that has less cleave

or whichever light is the vertical one

[tulip kettle]

yeah the 3r i think

im just interested to learn that the assasin style attack has 4.5 cleave

[spice veldt]

I guess they figured that rampage should be usable without requiring push-attacks

the funny thing is that ds lights used to have 2 cleave, but the patch notes say that they improved it from 3 cleave to 4.5 cleave which was a nice surprise

[long wharf]

I believe it's light2 that's the upwards-near-vertical slash

nope, I'm thinking of a different weapon

[wise spire]

Wondering what melee weapon to pair with the Trauma Staff. It handles everything so nicely I'm not sure what to pick. Honestly considering Combat Knife for the mobility.

[long wharf]

ds4 is diagonal slashes

[spice veldt]

I bet you were thinking of the obscurus

[long wharf]

possibly

[spice veldt]

that god damn uppercut light

[zinc phoenix]

Flurry rending trauma bad actually 😢

[tulip kettle]

wish me luck

[long wharf]

terrifying barrage

[steep estuary]

YES

[zinc phoenix]

420 blaze trauma 👌

[long wharf]

lame

[tulip kettle]

we got rending boiz

only lvl 3

but workable

[zinc phoenix]

Le hipfire while sprinting 👌

[tulip kettle]

nice

brunt had one for me today too

[steep estuary]

Last one I had was the bugged one. It was also the only one I'd seen at that point lmao

[tulip kettle]

i have 3 75 power stam curios on my vet

very sad times

[zinc phoenix]

I have a literally perfect flurry rending and I hate it, wish I could sell it 😢

[tulip kettle]

why?

like i hate trauma too honestyly

[zinc phoenix]

Blaze trauma is ridiculously better

[tulip kettle]

ahh i see

why not both?

[zinc phoenix]

I’m never gonna use the flurry rending

[wise spire]

How is this looking?

[willow hazel]

Solid. Quell speed is fine to dump.

[tulip kettle]

yeah that looks awesome

[left dagger]

dont need fast quell on trauma?

[feral verge]

quell speed is just ridiculously fast in general

whether a staff has 'low'

quell speed or not

[wise spire]

I wish the Obscurus had it's warp attack changed to some kind of Soulblaze related thing. Maybe like the power sword except your next 3-4 attacks apply 4 stacks of Soulblaze. Or maybe it shoots a Purgatus style puff of flame idk. Something to make it different and give us more melee Soulblaze options.

[left dagger]

oo then great roll of stats

[eager mantle]

Where's my blessing to turn the power up for force swords into a toggle

[wise spire]

So Deimos and Obscurus become peril generating chainaxes while the Illisi becomes a budget Power Sword? I like the idea.

[eager mantle]

Yea

[wise spire]

Btw whats a good melee to use with the Trauma Staff? It handles everything so well I'm not sure what my melee needs to cover. I've been considering the Combat Knife just for Mobility.

[feral verge]

i pair it with deimos

[willow hazel]

mk4 dueling also works for mobility

[feral verge]

uncanny strike on deimos + rending shockwave on trauma = i dont believe in armor

[wise spire]

Thinking about it a chainsword might be fun. Especially Bloodletter for Boss Damage.

[long wharf]

chain weapons are great against shielded bosses

strips shields super fast

[wise spire]

Yeah and besides BB which is okay boss damage, Trauma Psyker doesn't have much else. Which Mk is better for boss damage specifically though? Unless they're the same idk.

[grand vapor]

Guysi need help please

some tank build with this,could be a shot gun or autogun

curios too

[lament glen]

Get toughness curios (unless you're doing the wound build) and get an agripina braced auto

[grand vapor]

i knowi low lvl

okokok

and talents?

[lament glen]

I wouldn't worry too much about it until you're max, but for pure survivability you're gunna want the one that gives you a bunch of toughness on heavy attack kills, the one that gives you a cheat death, and probably shroudfield

[hexed geyser]

Disagree, on a thammer you'd want the 2 other ults more than shroudfield

Or a knife would just be more efficient

[lament glen]

If we're talking about a build with the primary goal of not dying, you'd be hard pressed to argue against shroud. A button that just says "every enemy in the game ignores you for 6 seconds" is hard to beat

[hexed geyser]

The relic says pretty much the same but for the whole team

But yeah, shroud would be the best for this specific scenario

[midnight jolt]

should I run with 1 x 20% extra HP and 2 x 16~17% toughness?

[lament glen]

I think we're all still on the "all toughness all the time" train

[spice veldt]

sure y not

[midnight jolt]

I keep getting the 20% HP but haven't seen one 17% toughness

tough life 😂

[lament glen]

they're pretty rare. Not worth the hassle for a 1% increase imo

[spice veldt]

taking health helps with bursters and snipers (depending on how much sniper res you have) which is convenient to hit those breakpoints

[lament glen]

people are out here clearing damn with greys and no talents, that 1% just isn't that important

[long wharf]

I prefer 2x health and +3 stamina

[lament glen]

I'm personally of the opinion that "just don't get hit by bursters or snipers lmao" but also... shit happens sometimes

[spice veldt]

I liked toughness back when it's Regen was more precarious and I like it even more nowadays since it's regeneration is practically free and constant

[midnight jolt]

at my 3rd day of playing this game, snipers are not a problem for me

[long wharf]

I like health for a number of reasons - a big one is having a bigger buffer for corruption when it happens

[spice veldt]

my 300ms reaction time causing snipers to rumble me

[ornate hamlet]

old man

[spice veldt]

and snipers not making noise if you're not the target

[feral verge]

what difficulty are you playing

[spice veldt]

top 10 mechanics I hate

[midnight jolt]

Malice for a whole day, then heresy, and today on damnation but so far 50% success rate on damnation

[feral verge]

because in auric damnation, when there are 3 million enemies on screen and yo uare soloing a crusher pack, snipers can be a problem

[lament glen]

I've been pavlov'd into dodging whenever I hear even the faintest whispers of the trapper or sniper windup. Pretty sure if you played those noises to me in my sleep my thumb and pointer would reflexively depress

[long wharf]

I don't care how far away the sound sounds, I dodge

[spice veldt]

I rely on sheer visual cues for snipers and just accept my fate if I don't spot them in time

[feral verge]

if you walked in god's light, you would be shielded

but you choose to walk in shadow

heathen, shrouded in evil. begone

[spice veldt]

funny that you talk about god's light

[long wharf]

the light of barrel explosions?

[midnight jolt]

between fashion and crafting I'm broke, this is how a newbie psyker should look, otherwise you are not playing the game right

[hollow pine]

so the psyker read the zealots mind as was shocked to see the horrid thoughts

do you want to see what the psyker saw?

[potent echo]

The emperor's feet

[nimble burrow]

get this man into the psyk-ward he's getting visions from the warp

[hollow pine]

this

[steep estuary]

Like 3 gunners just mag dumped me

[hexed geyser]

Yup

[steep estuary]

Deflector and Kinetic Deflection go brrrrrrrrrrr

[hexed geyser]

Ok i wasn,t expecting that

[steep estuary]

Neither was I

[hexed geyser]

I tought you were about to complain about the unfairness of the situation xD

[steep estuary]

Oh no, I got pretty lucky

[hexed geyser]

I remember doing this penance with a dclaw agaisnt crushers, 2-3 overheads and i somehow survived

[steep estuary]

Nice, the overheads always turn me into mush xD

[outer ocean]

think deflector and ogryn shield are the easiest way to get that

[ornate hamlet]

I got that by reviving a dude

[midnight jolt]

Got this reward, not a single perk is usable, why !!!

[patent wing]

guys i forgot how to reach 12 ammo on assail

[dim parrot]

keep +4% max health

[midnight jolt]

what are usually the perks I should go for?

[spice veldt]

the blitz bonus maelstrom thingy

last time I ran assail on it, you got 12 shards at the start but it only regenerated up to 10 shards once you used up those 2 extra shards

[dim parrot]

I want 50 shards

[drifting violet]

Quick question: how good is “precognition” blessing on an illis force sword?

[grand scroll]

Just something funny, the more I think about it.

Has anyone tried cosplaying as a Scab Sniper?

[drifting violet]

No, but someone did cosplay a scab shooter

Recently

[grand scroll]

Okay/

Well, I'm going to cosplay as a Scab Sniper as a Psyker.

[drifting violet]

Oh shit I thought you meant in real life

[grand scroll]

Breh. But nice to know.

[trim valve]

Can I salvage this sword?

[long wharf]

yeah

[trim valve]

I don't really know much about force swords.

[long wharf]

exorcist to uncanny strike

+specialists to +flak/+maniac

[trim valve]

Will do, thx.

[midnight jolt]

Today's weekly renewed acquisitions, should I get it?

[long wharf]

I would, just to strip blazing spirit 4 off

welp, finally got a better surge staff

[midnight jolt]

and block efficiency to maniacs or flak?

[long wharf]

no, I meant I would give it to Hadron in order to unlock blazing spirit 4

it's pretty rare, as blessings go

[midnight jolt]

ohhh

then apply on my old one

[long wharf]

er

I wasn't suggesting you actually use blazing spirit on a force sword

[midnight jolt]

alright, just get the perk, got it

[shadow wigeon]

Blazing Spirit just isn't very good, at least not right now.

But that may change one day, so you'll have the blessing.

[shadow wigeon]

Not particularly good compared to thing like Uncanny. If you do remember to dodge, and go for headshots, I suspect you'll notice the damage boost. Just be wary off emptying out your dodge tank trying to boost damage.

[outer ocean]

I would replace it with deflector

[drifting violet]

Good to know, I appreciate the insight 😎 👍

[drifting violet]

Fair, but haven't utilized deflector enough for it to be efffective with my playstyle

[shadow wigeon]

Bear in mind it's successful dodges - meaning actually dodging an attack. Just sidestepping won't proc the benefit.

[flint plover]

even a broken clock dodges twice a day

[steel flame]

But it will proc with empathic evasion

[shadow wigeon]

hol up

[steel flame]

Hmm!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[steel flame]

Wassup?

[shadow wigeon]

Big if true but also illegal def gettin banned for this

Now I'm curious to know how often EE will proc that in melee....

[steel flame]

Empathic evasion make you count as dodging ranged attacks so it procs on dodge affects

[shadow wigeon]

you still need to dodge an attack though

so it's abit out of your control.

[steel flame]

Just be shot at

Easy

[shadow wigeon]

yeah i wonder how often that would actually go off

I don't want to do the math on Precog damage buff, but that sounds like a neat trick (tired brain)

[steel flame]

It's certainly a thing

[shadow wigeon]

How does +finesse damage work, does it boost the ws and crit damage portion?

[spice veldt]

yeah, it gives the same bonus as weakspot/crit dmg perks

+60% finesse damage = +60% weakspot dmg and +60% crit dmg

[cosmic sigil]

Hmm precog + precision strikes on a vet... That must be tasty

[shadow wigeon]

So Illisi is 3.3x crit ws, or even 2.3x on ws.
That's a big chunk of change

[spice veldt]

yeah it's quite a sweet bonus on the weapons that can roll precog

id prob run it on all weapons if I didn't often run into people running smite

[cosmic sigil]

No more stuff to dodge?

[spice veldt]

yeeeep

[shadow wigeon]

Funny I very rarely see smite actually

[cosmic sigil]

You find precog on force swords, knives and duelling sword, that's it?

[spice veldt]

god damn NA west

[vocal cliff]

Must be wild there

[cosmic sigil]

Wild west

[spice veldt]

I think that's the list of precog weapons yeah

[vocal cliff]

Ok thank you for getting that

[bold maple]

does penetration stat even matter on dueling since you have uncanny strike anyway

[long wharf]

this makes me all sorts of uncomfortable

[shadow wigeon]

So precog is ~30% bonus on crit or ws, and ~40% bonus on crit/weakspot.

Huh I might give that a try sometime, nice for single targets. I don't even know how often I dodge in melee though.

[bold maple]

and the things you do 1 shot dont have armor

[shadow oar]

hello gamers i dont play psyker much

is revolver good for gunpsyk

[eager mantle]

Yea but most gravitate to columnus and laspistol since theres less reload downtime and more firing to make use of scriers

[shadow oar]

thank ya

[long wharf]

I just now realized why I like the psyker hoods that cover the eyes with the metal arch over the brow

makes you look like a Space Wizard Robocop

[white wolf]

worth or nah

[ornate hamlet]

Good base, but you're gonna benefit from changing the rest

[white wolf]

isn't the mk IV supposed to be the best dueling sword by a lot

[lyric burrow]

it is

cause i think it has the most heavy damage and the heavies chain better

2 does a stab into slash

which is worse for single target

slightly better for horde clear but you arent really taking DS for that

[lone ravine]

I assume this would be worth buying?
Bought and infested dmg has been swapped to maniac

[harsh grove]

yeah it's godlike

you'll probably swap the terrifying barrage and the dmg to infested

[lone ravine]

wdym dmg to infested it already has infested dmg trtait

[harsh grove]

no i mean you'll change each of those out for something else

[lone ravine]

OH

maybe just make it carapace instead?

[eager mantle]

Maniac would probably be useful

Unless you really want that dmg for just crushers

[lone ravine]

oh wait it would only affect crushers, yea ig ill jsut do maniac

[eager mantle]

Yea only carapace that'll be realistically hit with the charge attack will be crushers.

[lone ravine]

oh god i just realized i only have t1 blessings for truama staff

[eager mantle]

That's how I feel atm with a crusher I have for my zealot

[lone ravine]

also what would be a good blessing to even replace tb with

maybe that one charge speed blessing?

[eager mantle]

Usually if you already have nexus, most would go Blaze trauma

[zinc phoenix]

Blazing Spirit, but flurry will work if you don’t have it rn

Fire is very strong on trauma because you bop everything for heavy damage and then clean em up with the flames

[lone ravine]

alright ig i'll just replace it with which ever of those 2 blessings i find first

[zinc phoenix]

I’d also change infested to maniac

[lone ravine]

already done ✅

[zinc phoenix]

You’d want it to be crit after you got fire on there, but until then you just want more damage

[hoary badge]

Infested is actually one of the perks trauma likes to have

You'll be horde clearing with it and able to vaporize poxes in one blast instead of strewing them about helps quite a bit

[harsh skiff]

Which staff shoots the big blue orbs

[hoary badge]

Voudstrike

[harsh skiff]

Thanks

[lethal lagoon]

Is voidstrike blue?

[lone ravine]

It looks more dark purple to me but probably just my graphics

[lethal lagoon]

I guess my graphics settings change it enough, cause it's 100% blue on a video I just watched, huh.

[hoary badge]

Could be white and gold

[tribal girder]

Any tips for playing gun psyker? I just played a game and went horrible

[lethal lagoon]

What's your build? Gunker is typically the full embodiment of glass cannon, so there is a learning curve.

Not much for tips, just focus on your positioning, keep your head on a swivel. Same skill different positions completely different outcome

[analog agate]

Did you just play with another gunker and blaze trauma guy? Cause I was the trauma guy and the 2 gunkers really let us down there

[trim valve]

What level are you?

[ornate hamlet]

Empathic evasion, mettle and a crit gun

And a crit melee too, naturally

[dapper shadow]

man, all the guns make finding good staffs in the hourly shop or melk so hard

that and certain builds require specific blessings which makes it even harder to build

[tribal girder]

I.played with a guy named trauma

[tribal girder]

30. I play psyker on auric damnation and i just put together a gun build with columus, mk4 dueling sword and right tree

[zinc phoenix]

Blaze cleans them up

[tribal girder]

I know what talents to take i m more asking for gameplay advice since its so different from staff pysker

[trim valve]

Nice, all the weapons you just said are top tier as far as gun psyker is concerned. But personally I don't like using gun psyker in auric damnation.

[glass forge]

Still takes two blaze from trauma to kill trash enemies, 20% more damage to trash is slightly faster but still needs 2 blaze from trauma

[dapper shadow]

I want to learn how to play trauma well

surge staff crippled me

[hoary badge]

In an instant if you take infested

[dapper shadow]

its so easy to play with surge staff since you dont even need to think about aiming

[trim valve]

You have to aim to use the LMB against snipers and such

[glass forge]

Interesting, let me test it with infested dmg buff

But trash enemies definitely die instantly inside trauma circle

[tribal girder]

Thx, i heard good things about it and was trying it out, but it was proven very very difficult

[dapper shadow]

should you be charging to full on trauma staff against hordes/elites or are half charged secondaries good enough?

[urban sandal]

ideally you always want to full charge

[dapper shadow]

got it.

[glass forge]

Surge staff seems hard to use for me since it only hits 2 enemies and there are 10 plus special chasing us

[hoary badge]

I usually do full but I think some blazers do more quick blasts for procs

[trim valve]

I have to say sadly, even if the columnus is fantastic, you have much weaker version compared to a veteran running it.

[dapper shadow]

if you do half charges you can stop 6-8 elites by rotating the targets

[trim valve]

But it is the best we get for gun psyker.

[hoary badge]

Columnus gets built in inspiring barrage due to the crit chains we get though

[glass forge]

Why not use smite to stun a lot of enemies instead of surge hum?

[dapper shadow]

surge kills them very fast

no need to rely on teammates

[near wyvern]

Scrier's is quite a lot more difficult than going creeping flames but very doable.

I can give you a link to either:

• heavy laspistol with right side talents and EP keystone
• columnus with assail, creeping flames and DD keystone

If you want to check out how to play it at Auric

[tribal girder]

Send me both

[glass forge]

Is use of Auto Hotkey allowed in this game? My finger went numb for 20 days

[hoary badge]

Only if you allow yourself

Fatshark is giving modders free reign over the game for the time being

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark's general rule for ingame tools: "Are we losing money?" and "Are you ruining other people's experience?"

Scoreboard, ok

Griefing people with scoreboard, not ok

Stuff like that

[trim valve]

What you are telling me is if they ever add weapon modifications, all weapon mods become illegal?

[ornate hamlet]

Ensure the crit gun can crit at least once a second, then find the nearest ranged crowd and hold W+M1

[lethal lagoon]

If it hits their bottom line 🤷‍♂️

[ornate hamlet]

Well, kinda

[potent echo]

That requires work, so I won't worry about it for another 2 years

[ornate hamlet]

The reasoning they gave to allow the current weapon modification mod is that it's clientside

We are actually able to use store parts with the mod, but other players can't see it

[hoary badge]

I mean a mod allowing for client side premium cosmetics already exists

[ornate hamlet]

So they adopted the logic of "pay to flex"

[potent echo]

Not on nexus though I think

[near wyvern]

Heavy las with mostly right side talents:

https://youtu.be/mY2jlkkG5Cw

Columnus with branching into creeping flames

https://youtu.be/wNoJPFX64jk

[ornate hamlet]

Nexus is its own website anyway

The weapon customization mod is one of the most popular mods in the game at this point, so I don't doubt Fatshark allows it

[potent echo]

I see stuff on nexus as whitelisted

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think nexus would ever deny a developer's request to remove a mod.

[potent echo]

And those not in kind of a grey area

[ornate hamlet]

UNLIKE THE FUCKING VACUUM CAPSULE THEY TOOK FROM US

[hexed geyser]

What blessings would i want for surge staff?

[lethal lagoon]

Flurry Nexus is the only combo for Surge staff

[near wyvern]

Nexus flurry

[stone canyon]

Finally blessing from Melk for Voidstrike

Too bad its the only good one i have it for already in tier2, but its step ahead in right direction still

[near wyvern]

@hexed geyser there are only 3 tier 4 blessings for surge staff. If you are a pro gamer you swap the one on it at purple to a T4 Terrifying barrage, then if you roll a T4 blessing at orange it's guaranteed to be one of the two good ones and you can swap the barrage into the other.

Still leaves you with being able to swap one perk!

[hexed geyser]

Does this sword has potential?

[lethal lagoon]

But then you can't get the vaunted perk-free surge staff

[hexed geyser]

I don't have any on surge but thanks

[near wyvern]

No cause it's Obscurus

[hoary badge]

People around will just give you vacuum capsule if you ask nicely though

[hexed geyser]

lmao ok

[near wyvern]

That is true

[stone canyon]

Should i try my RNG luck on that staff to see if last blessing is Surge or Nexus? Or just strip that Flurry out of it?

[near wyvern]

@lethal lagoon but if you have a T4 good blessing on it already at purple there is no point in doing the pro gamer move

[hexed geyser]

So should i exeptionnally roll a blue weapon for the 2nd blessing?

[near wyvern]

High tier Blessings and perks are more commonly applied to weapons with higher ratings, so T4 blessings appear most often at orange upgrade (in my experience around 1 every 4 upgrades when using 370+ base stat weapons)

[stone canyon]

Too bad it now kinda needs that crit Blessing instead of Flurry

BUT I GOT SURGE!

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

[paper harbor]

Mahrgh vet chat is kinda little crazy debating

Was debating

[hoary badge]

Nah you're good

[analog agate]

It doesn’t need nexus. Flurry is good too

[hexed geyser]

And according to what the other guy said earlier, columnus is great for gunker? I'm trying out a lot of new things on psyker tonight

[stone canyon]

Ok, i guess the talent that makes every 5th shot crit with weakspots has me somewhat covered?

[hoary badge]

Psyker has true aim to ensure you're critting

Yes

[stone canyon]

+4% on the weapon too

[hoary badge]

It's pretty much tailor made for surge void

[stone canyon]

Sprint efficiency though?

[hoary badge]

Columnus is a very good gun on any class but psyker can do funky shit with it, yes

[ornate hamlet]

Sometimes I wish talents were a bit more relative

You stack onslaught faster with guns with faster fire rate, as well as not stacking it per shotgun pellet

It's kind of annoying and basically tells you to run columnus

[lethal lagoon]

I'd hurry up and use columnus, high chance it's crit string is gonna be nerfed to shit given they did the same for the recon.

[hexed geyser]

Which one do i switch? For the surge (and i don't care it's not perfect, it got good stats)

[lethal lagoon]

Crit hit doesn't do anything, swap it to flak.

To be clear, I mean the crit hit perk

[hexed geyser]

Yeah yeah i understood xD

[stone canyon]

Carapace, Maniac, Unyielding, Flak for my Voidstrike staff perk?

[lethal lagoon]

Just making sure you don't swap warp nexus or something haha. You never know.

[ornate hamlet]

carapace does le funi

[hexed geyser]

[hoary badge]

It's balanced by the fact vet has 100 other talent nodes he wants to take

[static needle]

Left or right?

[hexed geyser]

Alright, thank you for everything everyone, so much time saved

Why is your dueling sword so fat?

[lethal lagoon]

It's a super secret Beta player only skin

[spice veldt]

built diff

[lethal lagoon]

Like this one for surge:

[hexed geyser]

That's a thammer picture...?!

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark really treats us beta players well ᴺᵒ ᵃᶜᵗᵘᵃˡˡʸ ᵗʰᵉʸ ʰᵃᵗᵉ ᵘˢ ᵍᶦᵛᵉ ᵐᵉ ᵐʸ ᶠᵘᶜᵏᶦⁿᵍ ¹⁴⁰⁰⁰ ᶠᵃᵗˢʰᵃʳᵏ

[analog agate]

I don’t think you will notice any difference between them. Left has slightly better stats

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, it's a staff

[hoary badge]

Oh it brings the thunder alright

[static needle]

This better?

[stone canyon]

Its done now, id only consider changing if i get Warp Nexus4

[limber silo]

Get a higher grey level

Not bad tho

[static needle]

i feel like uncanny is kinda mandatory tho

[limber silo]

For demos maybe

[analog agate]

It’s not unless you depend on it for crushers

[static needle]

i mean does uncanny actually increase damage against enemies other than flak or cara?

[limber silo]

Illisi is better for clear

[hoary badge]

I wouldn't worry about droppinf flurry on this staff, its base charge speed is painful enough as it is

[limber silo]

Rending works on everything that isn't gen-pop

[static needle]

gen-pop?

[limber silo]

General population. Poxwalkers and groaners

[static needle]

ah

[stone canyon]

Gonna blow myself up more without Transfer Peril now probably

Better keep 1wound curio in

[limber silo]

Illisi is better for horde clear, Deimos is better for HVTs. I like to run an Illisi on my gunker with UP and Slaught because I can chew through everything with SG up

Just gotta remember not to charge or push attack at 100%

[spice veldt]

works on anything that's not unarmoured or infested more generally

[limber silo]

Rending is kinda given to the weapons that don't really need it tho

[static needle]

u doing scriers?

[limber silo]

Scriers Void sounds like a recipe for funne

[stone canyon]

Popping shield mostly

[static needle]

huh

[stone canyon]

Telekine Shield is what ive been using mostly instead

But i just yesterday finished all brainburster penances, so i got used to having Venting Shriek

And also, having to go over 100% and get me out of there with Venting Shriek, to finish penance

So i found myself blowing up a lot after all that 😬 🔥

[limber silo]

Saw some guy say Shriek was terrible compared to shield and SG. He should kick rocks

[stone canyon]

Only clothing penance im missing anymore is custom game 90%+ dmg on monstrosity with brainburst

Got to 85% or so lastnight with friend, but he for some reason started hitting the boss once it was down to 10%

As he kinda misunderstood the 90% part

[limber silo]

Nice, that one isn't too bad to do

[lethal lagoon]

Me when I casually spin around and wipe out the horde that just spawned behind us, and 2 snipers, with one loud yell.
"This ability sucks"

[stone canyon]

It is if your friend is, how should i say it politely... stupid?

[limber silo]

Not a friend, just a dude

[hoary badge]

He meant his penance partner

[limber silo]

Seems to ignore niche cases in favor of general usefulness

[lethal lagoon]

His PPᴾᵉⁿᵃⁿᶜᵉ ᴾᵃʳᵗⁿᵉʳ basically

[limber silo]

Oh

He basically said Shriek is a crutch for bad psykers who can't manage peril. Completely missing the usefulness of increased uptime for damage, pushing dogs through walls, etc.

[stone canyon]

I clearly instructed him to only block and dodge the boss so i can do my thing, and that i need 90% or more dmg done to it. So once 90% dmg had been done and it was down to 10% he went all in. And we had lvl 1 bots with us too so you can see where it went

[limber silo]

Kill the bots next time

[spice veldt]

i'd kill to have shriek on the right side

[stone canyon]

This thing spawned pretty much at mission start

[limber silo]

I wouldn't. SG goes better there imo

[lethal lagoon]

Should be middle

[stone canyon]

Or is there way to kill the bots reliably? Lure them to barrels and shoot barrels near cliff edge?

[spice veldt]

i hate scrier's very much

[limber silo]

Why so?

[spice veldt]

can't exit it besides hitting 100% peril

provides a benefit that strongly prefers crit weapons

[limber silo]

Why would you want to exit?

[cold ivy]

shriek isn't just for uptime and push, with the soulblaze talent it kills all non-taggables, dogs, snipers and (i think) shotgunners in a 25m cone every time it's up

[spice veldt]

so that i can use my peril options

[lethal lagoon]

Shriek is more like a cyclindar than a cone

But yes

[primal plume]

Hot take: EP is a trap for Smite. Its high peril cost means it doesnt get much out of if and during hordes it only kills like 5 poxwalkers before you need to quell
Warp Siphon affects all parts of your warp related abilities and lets you smite for a longer period of time which translates to more damage overall without needing to quell as much

[cold ivy]

a very narrow cone!

[hoary badge]

Smite is a trap for smite

[primal plume]

Basically Uptime vs Small burst

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite with flaming shriek will kill quite a lot of things, get's ragers to about 10% health.

Issue with EP smite is you are going all in on smite

And smite is.... smite.

[primal plume]

Thats why its a trap

[limber silo]

EP is fun. That's about it. Warp Siphon is basic, but everything you want a keystone to be. DD is far superior, but requires more management

[primal plume]

I havnt used DD a lot

Is it stull bugged in hordes?

[limber silo]

So will just fire shriek, so the smite is kinda not that useful

[primal plume]

i know the game stops marking them for some reason

[limber silo]

Nope

[lethal lagoon]

I mean ranged horde clear that targets potentially the entire map is going to be wild in terms of pub damage, so I wouldn't call that part a trap.
The trap part is that smite will trick you into thinking you are good at the game.

[hoary badge]

DD triggers me with launch warp charge ptsd

[limber silo]

DD doesn't mark trash

Or anything that could be considered not human

[primal plume]

I mean when I use smite in auric i have the highest success rate second best damage will the least amount of damage taken

[limber silo]

Apparently Ogryns don't have destinies

[hoary badge]

I hate the stack management and its drunken target acquisition

[primal plume]

I dont really see smite as a "look how good I am" I see it as a "Im going to make this mission as stress free as possible for my team"

[trim valve]

I swear I have seen DD mark trash units, well I can't quite tell with mix hordes. But I get a kill and the enemy right next to it goes blue.

When it feels like working.

[limber silo]

DD with the 30 second timer means you get max stacks and keep it almost the whole time during fights

But Perfectionism gives me a neurotic urge to see that number 30

[spice veldt]

crackhead

[limber silo]

DD does not apply to poxwalkers, groaners, muties, ogryns, bosses, or dogs.

[spice veldt]

DD marks human-sized patrol enemies essentially, so bruisers, shooters, stalkers, gunners, maulers, some stuff i'm forgetting

[lethal lagoon]

You literally just "bragged" though? Smite gives too many pub psykers main character syndrome.

[hoary badge]

It's stress free in the sense procastination is effective at dealing with your problems

[limber silo]

Yes? You called?

[spice veldt]

hey hey

[primal plume]

I want to add that the average mission time when I use smite is around 24-27 mins

[limber silo]

I hate Smite because it makes everyone in my lobbies completely ignore everything I'm Smiting

[primal plume]

So lets not pretend that because I used smite the mission dragged out to 50 mins

[limber silo]

It's weird I don't know why

[cold ivy]

usually there's 3 things that end runs: team cannot handle specialists, team cannot handle massed armor and team cannot handle boss

[primal plume]

People get weirdly offended when you use smite

[spice veldt]

i do ignore smited enemies if they smite the enemy too far away

[hoary badge]

Too many pub psykers just stack enemies to a critical density instead of actually killing them

[spice veldt]

so i just run ahead and push the map instead

[cold ivy]

smite helps quite a bit with the second one

[limber silo]

No they see the crusher horde I smited and think I have it handled

[primal plume]

Idk, works fine on my machine

[primal plume]

See thats being petty

Theyre stunning it specifically so you can kill them easily

[limber silo]

I think they are just morons

[primal plume]

No one uses smite unironically to kill crushers

theyre doing it to help you

so you can wail on it without it fighting back

[limber silo]

I think the logic is, "Oh they aren't a danger right now, I'll handle something else."

[primal plume]

I guess I consider myself lucky I dont run into people that have grudges against smite

[lethal lagoon]

Crusher when it's smited? Ignore.
The moment smite is about to end? Time to dive into melee with the crusher

[limber silo]

Fr

[cold ivy]

the class which benefits most from smite IMO is zealot, because they have many ways to kill armor fast but few ways to not die to overheads (except the cheat death)

so when stuff is smited they can kill everything

[primal plume]

I found working with other Psykers it works well too

[lethal lagoon]

I wouldn't say I have a grudge, but when the guy who's doing 3 times less damage than me is backseating, it's a smite psyker every time.

[cold ivy]

vet/psyker/ogryn don't need armor to be stunned, they can just use plasma/staff/ogryn weapons to dumpster armor

[limber silo]

I love watching a Zealot rev a eviscerator into a crusher only to realize it is not stagger and they are going to get smooshed

[lethal lagoon]

But I mean most discord chatters are great players, so that doesn't really apply to anyone here

[plucky flax]

[limber silo]

I had one vet ask me to smite more than I usually do

I almost exclusively smite elite/special rushes

[stone canyon]

Does my Voidstrike build make sense?

[limber silo]

He wanted me to smite trash and the only reason was he kept downing to them

[stone canyon]

I dropped Perilous Combustion in favor of Battle Meditation so i can shoot more Voidstrike to lessen peril on kill

[limber silo]

Take the DD quell

[lethal lagoon]

DD quell is mathmatically one of the worst abilities in the game.

I mean BM isn't even that good and DD quell is way worse

[limber silo]

Clearly you aren't killing enough DDs

[lethal lagoon]

10% peril on 10% of **all **kills, or 15% peril on 20% of random blue targets.
Breh, you are on another planet atm.

[hexed geyser]

What blessings do i want on a mk4?

[stone canyon]

I could see the 10% battle meditation triggering pretty well on hordes

[lethal lagoon]

BM is midish already, DD quell is like it's younger cousin who sets stuff on fire in your garage and you aren't allowed to invite over anymore.

[limber silo]

The answer to all rng is kill more things

[stone canyon]

And hordes is when you wanna keep spamming your Voidstrike more to instead of downtime quell when they all around you

[limber silo]

BM + DD quell let's me stay in SG for 30+ seconds more just by murdering harder, which SG let's me do way better anyways

Plus, don't you want those endorphins when you hit the DD and drop 25% peril because you are the Man?

[lethal lagoon]

Both BM and DD popping together sounds like it would actually be annoying and disrupt peril edging.

But I can see the dopamine rush potential

[limber silo]

My sibling, all you need to do is stay in SG more. Then you hover at 80% because you have already regained the 25% peril in .001 seconds because of exponential increases

[stone canyon]

Perilous Combustion alone seems pretty random pick as without Wildfire it wont start spreading, why i went Battle Meditation as peril is my biggest issue spamming Voidstrike now

[limber silo]

Perilous Combustion needs a buff imo

[stone canyon]

Blew myself up 3 times in one mission lastnight while barely taking normal damage, why the anti-peril talents

[limber silo]

You need to kill 3 things quickly to start doing decent damage with it, but by then everything is already dying to other sources

[plucky flax]

Yes

[spice veldt]

it's something that scales with elite/special density so i always see it as nice

the main issue i particularly see is with psyker's force staff options

once we get a proper precision force staff that can compete with the single-target ability of guns, then I think it'll shine more

so that we can greed for kills like you can if you just run a gun on psyker

and compete for elite/special kills

[limber silo]

Yeah, you already have good answers to elite rushes. PC is just a really slow option

[lethal lagoon]

Are there any laser beam staves in the lore?

[spice veldt]

i would be surprised if there weren't

there better fuckin be

[limber silo]

There are laser beam powers for psykers

[spice veldt]

fuck yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Close enough

[stone canyon]

Adding little dot is nice, but id rather have another Voidstrike staff shot ready

[limber silo]

Fits into the pyromancy practices for psyker, but that doesn't really matter

[ionic frost]

mmmm...left click same as normal staves...right click to charge a volly that rivals columnus dps? =)

[limber silo]

Psyker disciplines are basically non-existent for us

[spice veldt]

i don't particularly care about PC on purg or trauma but i consider it on builds that don't have some infinite cleave option

[spice veldt]

i'll die if it has the same bolt LMB

i want something new on that front as well

[ionic frost]

Is it a staff or force powered gun?

[spice veldt]

both

gimme that shit

[limber silo]

Assail is lore is way different than ingame

In lore you basically chuck large boulders at people as artillery

[ionic frost]

what if left-click is same, but when u hold right click it feels like a columnus? no charging it just use peril to shoot

that way u can super suppress, or dps

[ionic frost]

bolt LMB is rly good with animation cancel =)

[spice veldt]

its unyielding damage makes me sad

[limber silo]

I only every use the lmb when the enemy is too far for surge or trauma

[spice veldt]

also i am biased against projectile weapons

[ionic frost]

u have an animation cancel macro to double the dps of it? =)

[limber silo]

No because I'm not a sweat lord

I don't do macros, they mean I'm trying too hard

I will break my fingers to do animation cancels correctly, but as soon as I use macros I feel as though I am taking the game too seriously

[ionic frost]

Didn't know u had to be a sweat lord to use a simple mouse macro... =)

[limber silo]

Where is the satisfaction of clean button presses? You are taking an easier route for the purpose of dps

[ionic frost]

All in the name of more plasteel!

[ModManager] Loading mod SpecialsTracker with id 110

[limber silo]

I wish you named your macro correctly

[ionic frost]

Yeah I named it when I only used it for voidstrike

I'll rename it for you =)

and the e there...

[limber silo]

I'm staring at the e in the middle of it and can't stop

Idc about the name. Just that damn e

[ionic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/animaniacs-pinky-and-the-brain-the-brain-its-all-to-clear-to-me-now-all-to-clear-for-me-now-gif-19646220

https://tenor.com/view/plan-planned-meant-gif-22294101

[thorn birch]

what does this one do I'm curious

[ionic frost]

Left click staff, then R for Reload, repeat.

You shoot faster.

[ornate hamlet]

Is Warp Battery Penance literally just hold onto a charge attack for three hungred seconds?

[potent echo]

You sweat out like 0.2 bolts per second quicker

[ionic frost]

yes...you used to be able to brain burst a poxwalker to keep stacks before they changed the talent trees

[cold ivy]

warp charges are the things that your leftmost keystone (warp siphon) gives you

[ornate hamlet]

So I just basically AFK and charge warp?

Oh

Oh that makes sense

A lot more sense

[cold ivy]

you need to gain a warp charge every 25s or they'll decay

[potent echo]

And don't press F

[cold ivy]

yeah pressing F consumes all charges

default method to get them is killing specialists/elites (100% chance), you can take psychic vampire for all kills in coherency to give you 4% chance to gain a charge or the other one (in fire reborn? idk what its called) to give you 10% chance for things that your soulblaze kills

[vale creek]

its E for me

[ornate hamlet]

Legit I was about to join a game hide in a corner like Gollum.

[vale creek]

i interact with F

[ionic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-eyes-gollum-gif-19782558

[ornate hamlet]

I'm stealing thiss

[ionic frost]

You never accidentally press E?

[vale creek]

not really

[thorn birch]

I interact with R

[vale creek]

i played an mmo back then rebinding my skills to Q,E,X,C,G,F,T,R

[thorn birch]

I think I've the weapon special attack on E

[spiral minnow]

oh yeah, and everything had shift+ function too xD

[thorn birch]

Reload is on mmb because makes peril management on the go easier for me

[vale creek]

trueee

[dapper shadow]

trauma force support is pretty fun but I always have the thought that when helping to keep pressure off your team to enable them to do more dps, but its better if the enemies are just dead compared to pushing all of them away

I dont have as much damage as other builds but I can keep everyone from getting swarmed by ads and elites

[drifting violet]

The usual blessing choice for Trauma is warp nexus and blazing spirits? In terms of dealing dmg and all.

[eager mantle]

Blaze and Nexus for dmg. Flurry and Rending is there too

[drifting violet]

😎👍

[trim valve]

Is there a particular timing for the charge attack using rending to not overkill a Mauler?

Like charge it 1/3 and then a full charge.

[eager mantle]

Dunno. Never did testing. I just charge

[queen stump]

does the lightning storm perk still work with staff?

where its jumps +1 chain

[trim valve]

I noticed they take the "full brittle" even if I do a tiny charge, I'll test it out.

With my cursed trauma staff.

Eeh, it may be better just to charge it as high as you can, unless one is running the health mod.

Well, it is nice to get the fast charged attack with flurry into a full charge, but quite enemy specific.

[spiral minnow]

getting closer to 30 and i am still using mainly shards... is it bad habit? and when i take shield i forget to use it xD so i sport venting shriek, illsi and inf lasgun, probably missing some single target n bosses dmg, any tips? i thought about flamethrower staff and trying to use brain rupture? which it seems i cant use effectively xD

[spice veldt]

if it works it works

may or may not lead to bad habits but the weapon exists and they don't seem to plan on nerfing its spammability the correct way so it's probably here to stay

[drifting violet]

It seems like you’re more in favor towards gunsyker playstyle. I would recommend getting yourself a revolver, since it pairs well with assail shards

[stone canyon]

Just get to 30, its then only when you can make meaningful builds and farm suitable end game items for em

[spiral minnow]

so far i mainly use shards and sword, my gun hardly loses 20% ammo

[stone canyon]

But do grab if you see good tier 2 blessings or such on the way for weapons you might see yourself using once 30

[drifting violet]

Then you’re gonna love revolver

Like everyone else lol

[spiral minnow]

xD

[stone canyon]

I spammed Assail mostly omw to lvl 30, i tried everything i got on my hands while on my way there, but only thing that was good was Duellist Sword with good blessings for dealing with melee situations that compared to it

[spiral minnow]

path to 30 is slow rn, levels need much more xp, but yeah, wanting that 30 so i can roll weapons and such, rn i am mainly saving up .)

[stone canyon]

Get 3x curios with 10% exp on each

[spiral minnow]

can u reuse them on other chars?

[drifting violet]

Sadly no

[stone canyon]

Nope

[drifting violet]

No shared inventory 😦

[stone canyon]

But its still worth the little material spending

They cost like few hundred plaststeel or something

[spiral minnow]

how they can make amazing game like VT2 and then another game which should be better is missing so much QoL things... xD

[stone canyon]

Like worth mission or two

[lethal lagoon]

You guys are spoiled, back in the day plasteel wasn't even shared.

[drifting violet]

Literally was here when the game launched

[stone canyon]

Kajl i hope you are familiar with mods, help a lot with things

Especially for Psyker, more visible Peril meter

But i agree curios should be shared accountwide

[spiral minnow]

nope, i own game for 3 days, gonna dive in into it this weekend .)

[lethal lagoon]

At least blessings are shared.... 🥹

[stone canyon]

Do some penances while leveling, some of them are very easy

[static needle]

Bricked?

[stone canyon]

So you dont have to run around looking like a hobo

[lethal lagoon]

Headhunter and Crit weakspot are the blessings, right?

[static needle]

dunno

[spiral minnow]

got my first blue thing, i am ok with that .)

[drifting violet]

Pretty much

[stone canyon]

Yeah sophisticated Psyker look already there , you good

[lethal lagoon]

At least according to the guide, the gun seems really flexiable with what blessings function well.

🤷‍♂️

I feel like a non-crit version will be doodoo though

[drifting violet]

You can still change the blessings

[stone canyon]

At lvl 20 i found really good duelist sword from Melk's with blessings i knew id want to use at lvl 30 too. Not something id recommend to do, but made my journey smooth

[drifting violet]

Deadly accurate, headhunter, etc

[lethal lagoon]

It is a crit gun, so while 10% crit damage is bad, it's at least not sobbing bad.

Surgerical works too

[dapper shadow]

I don't have that yet so I'm going with the direct damage shield build atm

[lethal lagoon]

Wait actually, deadly accurate means 10% crit damage is like 1% actual damage.

[stone canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188027797336248350/1190632395746070548/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Screenshot_2023.12.30_-_14.27.52.78.png?ex=65abbc54&is=65994754&hm=689ca052af0e47830f1cf590c419f3fc26cc88844da3996d08d7876479819a46&

[lethal lagoon]

[dapper shadow]

I'm Elaina

Actually nvm the damage is horrible lol

Though perma stunning elite hoards are nice

[stone canyon]

That duelling sword made lvl 22-->30 smooth, and i could take the lvl 3 Uncanny for my lvl 30+ duellist sword then in store

[lethal lagoon]

A blazing Trauma is one of the highest damage builds.

[dapper shadow]

yeah I've been trying to roll it for days

to no success of course

[drifting violet]

Average darktide experience

[dapper shadow]

So I'm practicing trauma staff with what I currently have atm

[stone canyon]

Now that i got my Voidstrike Surge blessing finally, gonna see if i can luck out some decent Trauma Staff next

[vale creek]

blazing trauma kills the horde allright

[lethal lagoon]

With PC and Flaming shirk it kills everything "alright"

[dapper shadow]

with this I have to let my team do all the damage but it does makes it easy for them to do all the damage

so I can't tell if its good or not since the stats don't show those kinds of details

[drifting violet]

The staff is good as a cc support

Really helps against a horde of crushers/ragers

[dapper shadow]

yeah like everyone gets swarmed in an open space and I can just blast everything away and give people space to regroup inside the bubble

no one gets downed

[ember orbit]

I keep seeing “warp kill” what does that mean?

[drifting violet]

Bubble+Trauma is the best pairing

[ornate hamlet]

Kills with magic shit

[drifting violet]

Killing heretics with warp

[ornate hamlet]

Force sword specials, force staves, psyker blitzes, blue fire

[stone canyon]

Noooo

[dapper shadow]

the warpfire kills counts as warp kill kills as well

[lethal lagoon]

Take it to a melee maelstrom

[ornate hamlet]

Hadron is going to get copyrighted by Marvel

[dapper shadow]

The person that put the surge blessing in trauma force staff needs to kill himself

[spiral minnow]

i am thinking about duelist sword too, bcs i need some single target dmg, assail can cleanse many things, shriek is save button and probably change from illsi (horde clear) to duelist will help? also rn my button for special cahring attack is same as discord speaking, yesterday was really interesting playing with friends xDD getting over 100% bcs speaking .) will have to change that at least

[dapper shadow]

and its in blessing IV too

yeah thanks I love to spam my primary attacks with trauma staff

[stone canyon]

Yeah i had that on Melk yesterday

[drifting violet]

How would 2 shots even work on trauma? lol

[dapper shadow]

it doesnt

[drifting violet]

lol, lmao even

[stone canyon]

Duellist is more of a hordeclear

[lethal lagoon]

Same way it would with voidstrike, but it is kind of funny since some things will leave the epicenter cause of the first shot

been a year though and still doesn't work 😦

[dapper shadow]

idk man if it actually does hit twice and you get 2x damage from the epicentre

that would be preetty gooood

on elites anyways

since you one shot all ads in the epicentre anyways

[lethal lagoon]

Speaking of practicing trauma, having healthbars on for every enemy is nice training wheels

You wanna get used to making sure you don't knock live enemies behind your teammates and breakpoints epicenter range and stuff

[dapper shadow]

I only have it on elite atm, for ads I just use gut senses to know how much to charge

Anything behind my teammates I usually deal with for them

so they dont need to turn around as much

I do like it, but I cant tell if I'm actually helping or getting carried

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/512688851320569906.webp?size=48&name=aquaSmug&quality=lossless

[stone canyon]

With Voidstrike its very helpful to have elite/specialist healthbars

[dapper shadow]

unlike surge where I can singlehandedly deal with 100 elites and specials with a blink of an eye through the entire round

[stone canyon]

So you see em in hordes easier and also know to focus when 6 crushers coming at you

Voidstrike can pretty well stagger em

And clear too if you can get enough shots off

[dapper shadow]

yup I have that

I did get a decent voidstrike yesterday

and then hadron bricked it

sooooo

no voidstrike

[stone canyon]

I just picked nice one from Melk's this morning and lucked out IV Surge on it

[dapper shadow]

Okay, maybe if the 2nd blessing is good

its usable

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/525594391952490506.webp?size=48&name=Penthsmile&quality=lossless

[stone canyon]

My new baby

Havent yet got to test it, as have to babysit real babby (mini ogryn)

[dapper shadow]

do I roll it

[lethal lagoon]

I mean from my perspective it's 3 bad rolls 🤷‍♂️

Just depends on your gold vs plasteel ratio

[stone canyon]

Yeah stats are mediocre

[dapper shadow]

🤡

Always broke

[drifting violet]

Might as well lol

[stone canyon]

But i got Surge and Warp Flurry rolled in it by RNG, and i dont have neither

So would be shame to strip just 1 out

And i dont have better base either to slap em on

[dapper shadow]

I spent 5k plasteel yesterday trying to get a fire trauma staff

and its just gone within the hour

[stone canyon]

Im new, so i got like 200k coins, 1k plaststeel and 1k diamantine

Optimally noone would use 363 base stat item unless some obvious dump stat has all the low ones, but Sir Melk generously gave me that thing

[dapper shadow]

Are there any staff builds with scrier's gaze or is it just mathematically impossible to fully make use of it with a staff

that peril buildup is insane

[drifting violet]

Void strike lol

[dapper shadow]

actually with transfer peril

maybe

[stone canyon]

I went through the low stats and honestly the differences were so negligble that im fine with rolling with what i have for now

[dapper shadow]

MAYBE

I can use scrier's gaze

[drifting violet]

Not maybe, a yes

[stone canyon]

Have room for better staff in future still

[dapper shadow]

okay time to roll

[drifting violet]

I literally do this unironically

[dapper shadow]

hadron bless me please

die

[lethal lagoon]

[dapper shadow]

Sustained fire is the most common blessing istg

[drifting violet]

Average darktide experience

[dapper shadow]

like 8/10 of my rolls are just sustained fire

[stone canyon]

That or Terrifying Barrage

[lethal lagoon]

The name is accurate. It is terrifying.

[stone canyon]

I just got BOTH Sustained Fire and Terrifying Barrage from Hadron on my godroll base Trauma Staff

[drifting violet]

It is certainly one of the blessings

[lethal lagoon]

Hadron just wants you to visit her more, you are in ❤️

[stone canyon]

RIP going Trauma anytime soon

[dapper shadow]

If only you could hack currency in darktide like monster hunter to avoid the horrendous grind

man I just wanna try out new builds

[drifting violet]

You could also download “loadout config” mod to experiment with builds

[stone canyon]

I think you can try em if you arent afraid of using 360-370 base items and lvl 3 blessings

[drifting violet]

Unless you use console, in which case I can’t help there lol

[dapper shadow]

on pc

[stone canyon]

If you are perfectionist looking for close to 380 and IV blessings, well then, goodluck, maybe one day you get to try new playstyle

[drifting violet]

You’ll get there eventually, maybe 1k hour or so lol

[stone canyon]

https://accounts.atoma.cloud/dashboard i check this every 1h when home

[dapper shadow]

well no I'm happy enough with III

like my surge force

[stone canyon]

Its been handy getting "free" chances on items on daily basis

[dapper shadow]

I do check it whenever I'm free

except for psyker there's a lot more guns than staffs

so guns are more likely to appear hourly

[lethal lagoon]

Why roll void, you can just run EP smite Surge and top the scoreboard with 0 braincells

[dapper shadow]

compared to staffs

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

(it get's boring pretty fast, but it's nice for farming and contracts)

[dapper shadow]

because I've been playing surge from lv20-30 (9)

and I need something new

[lethal lagoon]

You can be like me then, spending 40k plasteel looking for surge on void, finding it in a melk's on my 2nd psyker, using it for like 5 games and never again

[drifting violet]

Damn, like me fr

[dapper shadow]

average psyker shop

I NEED STAFFS

[lethal lagoon]

But guns go brr

[drifting violet]

I think the game is telling you to play gunsyker

[dapper shadow]

nooooooooo

If I wanted to gun I can just play vet

[lethal lagoon]

Gunpsyker is more fun than vet

[stone canyon]

Why you didnt like Surge on Voidstrike? Curious since i just found mine and havent yet gotten to try it out

[lethal lagoon]

I just found the weapon kinda boring. "Oh look there's a huge elite group. Oh look they aren't there anymore".

It was fun a couple of times and then I remembered that I never liked voidstrike

[stone canyon]

As a somewhat noob player still, thats exactly what i need to survive still

Lastnight did Maelstorm that was full of packs of Crushers, seemed noone in the team had means to deal with their armor

So my Voidstrike pretty much carried the whole mission

[drifting violet]

Trauma exists

[lethal lagoon]

I wish I could use trauma for more than 1-2 games in a row. Watching the little circle with my eyes makes me super tired.

[stone canyon]

Sure, thats why i just tried to roll one, Hadron wasnt favourable

[drifting violet]

Fair. Average darktide experience and all

[half iron]

omg so true

[stone canyon]

How does True Aim work with weakspot thing, like it counts only the first point of impact?

Gotta land the first hit on head and then its fine?

[lethal lagoon]

Half the point of true aim on voidstrike is it counts all the headshots

[stone canyon]

Ok, then its OP

[ionic frost]

just get headshots.

[stone canyon]

I aim for heads all the time, but wasnt quite sure how it works

Though at times i hit also ground with weaker targets as that guarantees it wont miss high and doesnt do dmg at all

[static needle]

this tbh

[lethal lagoon]

you know it, slayyyyy

[half iron]

gunkers always be slaying💅💅💅💅

[stone canyon]

Ive been collecting good base revolvers incase i go gunker, got the blessings from Zealot already

Another one is that Columnus Mk5?

[drifting violet]

😎👍

[half iron]

the iia stub and the amongus are common picks i see from other gunkers

[orchid nest]

the old laspistol is good too

[restive slate]

What should I focus on curios for Psyker? Do i need cdr if I'm using cdr talent?

[indigo heron]

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[stone canyon]

Toughness Regen or Stamina Regen on curios? Or just +5% toughness? (Got already mixture of gunner and sniper)

Imperfect gameplay as newb so any sort of safety nets priority

[lethal lagoon]

stamina regen pretty pointless on psyker

If you roll toughness regen, you need 90%

+5% toughness/health are generally bad choice, but it's okay if you cant find anything you want/need

[stone canyon]

Combat Ability Regen seems good too to save like second on shield or so

[drifting violet]

Really pairs well with kinetic deflection, if you build your tree in that way

[lethal lagoon]

Uhh.... that seems like supreme overkill and minimum returns

But it's not like curios are game changing(unless you are an ogryn), so anything works.

[stone canyon]

Well, i still dont have all curios maxed

About time to get em all orange

What are the game changing curios for ogryn btw?

[drifting violet]

Toughness

[lethal lagoon]

You can fully toughness tank a sniper shot with DR and FNP

[drifting violet]

You can tank a lot of shit with a lot of toughness

[lethal lagoon]

You can make yourself functionally immortal as long as you don't get trapped

Huge gunner pack? Just run in.

Sniper DR, Gunner DR, and now Fire rez, completely change the Ogryn experience
Stacking toughness is crazy atm

[drifting violet]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hFKO4jw25yg&pp=ygUURGFya3RpZGUgbGV0IG1lIHNvbG8%3D

Build example

[lethal lagoon]

When things are bleeding, a sniper shot does like 100 toughness.

It's just hilarious.

[stone canyon]

Why the corruption resistances in that build?

To solo Daemonhost with less corruption dmg?

[drifting violet]

Personal preference, and probably just to deal with the DH

You could just switch it to anything else like sniper resistance

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind youtube vids are....

generally questionable.

[stone canyon]

Anyways, thanks for the vid, will reference to it once my Ogryn is bit bigger than lvl 6

[drifting violet]

Fair, but I can vouch for this one

[stone canyon]

And yeah, will trust Ogryn channel here more than youtube vid

[lethal lagoon]

^ Smart guy

[stone canyon]

1st day i started, i followed random youtube video on my zealot, took me like day 3 or 4, to realise he was missing some key talent points that would have made the build lot better

Havent really trusted em since

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn channel the best channel

[stone canyon]

Crit Zealot that had no 50% Toughness Resistance with crit, mmkay

[restive slate]

My ruling is no facial react thumbnail

[stone canyon]

Sadly nearly all youtubers do those, even the decent ones

[drifting violet]

YouTube landscape is certainly something

[restive slate]

At least be creative, not slap some gameplay screenshot, react face and question mark title

[lethal lagoon]

They have a short time period after every major patch to put out content, so I get why most of the videos are complete ass and wrong(To be clear I'm not attacking the video up above)

But obviously then they don't make for good advice.

The quiet gameplay ones where they just play a game for 30 minutes and show their build are usually decent though lmao

[cold ivy]

i trust chocoB - the builds are usually decent and they're just a really good player

[lethal lagoon]

That is one of the quiet gameplay for 30 minutes ones that show their build

[cold ivy]

ah yeah

sometimes it's nice to hear discussion about tradeoffs tho

[stone canyon]

Worst are the 100% sure of themselves guys who get mediocre rolls yet everything they have IS THE BEST

First game with Surge staff, not sure i noticed the crit effect? I guess sometimes it hit bit harder?