no but
#psyker-class
stuck mica
If shoot crit, shoot two crits (second bolt is fired like 0.1s after the first)
so the former
strange bone
bitter escarp
you larp a broadside battlesuit basically
spice wasp
Oooo that looks like it would synergize well with the warp Nexus
strange bone
Right well I already have this staff with warp nexus
and it has some pretty good stats short of the charge time
sacred dome
Dang, all the good rolls everyone seem to get except me 😂
strange bone
Don't worry my RNG in other games is dead as f
stuck mica
I'd probably upgrade the blue one above to see what you get, otherwise yeah swapping flurry for surge would be spicy
plucky flax
wait do i surrender it to unlock it and then put it on this staff I have
Charge rate is too low.
zinc phoenix
I’d upgrade the surge staff you rolled and put warp nexus on that until you roll something better tbh
It’s not god tier but it’s certainly good enough for the vast majority of the game
bitter escarp
it's pretty close to a godroll
strange bone
I mean the more i play the more i feel like everything works in auric damnation provided you're not shit at the game
bitter escarp
yeah if it's not outright shit it's workable
buuut good weapons just make it much more of a power fantasy
zinc phoenix
Most of my gear has really weird blessings but it doesn’t matter because I got them moves like jagger
zinc phoenix
I'm noob so I need op gears to carry me ass.
Yeah idk I’ve seen you play and that’s bs 😂
plucky flax
It's 85% my gears. 
I just press random buttons.
FartShart I beg you please give me blazing spirits t4 on trauma. 
sacred dome
I want horizontal trauma
cone of push
Double push
F to push one
rmb to push one
shrewd perch
I have a question that isnt in the guide! ✋
For the penance 'Prioritise targets' you have to kill 200 elite or specialist enemies with BB. But after i switched to assail, the number still seems to be going up. Is that from a party member using BB? Or is there some strange situation where Assail can proc it too? Because it cant be every elite/special assail kill otherwise i would be going up much faster i think.
sacred dome
Oh ye going for that one. BB goes brr
zinc phoenix
FartShart I beg you please give me blazing spirits t4 on trauma. <a:nooooo:97110...
*on a not trash staff 😭
I got a second sniper resist blessing on my curios recently and blessed thing has already saved me twice. Of course obesefish has already compensated for that by instructing the pogryn to yeet me off a ledge and having a teammate blast a barrel which blasted a nearby burster I was about to shove which sent me off another ledge
bitter escarp
benny hill moment
quick tulip
The Warp gives it's mightiest minds it's wackiest rides
zinc phoenix
I also did an auric maelstrom yesterday where a stealth trapper snatched me as a I jumped off an area transition so I was downed but then the greatest veteran in the history of veterans maybe ever happened to have the voc res perk so he got me up from below the area transition and then I killed the trapper and hopped down. I have never felt so blessed
bitter escarp
the one time voc res did good work
zinc phoenix
The Warp gives it's mightiest minds it's wackiest rides
Not sure about the mind but I sure have a lot of strength thanks to all this ignorance 😂
plucky flax
I got a second sniper resist blessing on my curios recently and blessed thing ha...
I too run 2 sniper resist. I used to run 3 but dropped to 2. Still left me with over 1 bar after getting shot.
zinc phoenix
I too run 2 sniper resist. I used to run 3 but dropped to 2. Still left me with ...
just shrugging off a sniper shot is so nice 😂 especially when you’ve got like six beams all glowing and need to get stuck in
flint plover
i wish there was a "sniper attract" perk on curios
that way i could pretend i was at a rave in histg
or sniper gauntlet, rather
bitter escarp
still pretty workable
silk vigil
Hey, not bad tbh.
bitter escarp
yeah swap sustained fire and a perk out and you're sorted
olive ember
Every time I queue into maelstrom I end up wondering
"how are these other guys playing maelstrom"
bitter pelican
surge or wexus?
rare arrow
Sustained fire to warp nexus for sure
rare arrow
Up to you if you wan to replace flurry with surge
bitter pelican
Sustained fire to warp nexus for sure
ye was thinking that
this is my boomstick
outta dockets
valid marsh
yummy surge blessing
strange bone
yummy surge blessing
true
rare arrow
ye was thinking that
I’m not a big surge fan myself. Typically void kills everything anyways, so it’s only useful against a small list of enemies. Though, they are big enemies so it has merit
flint plover
"how are these other guys playing maelstrom"
had a lot of those moments last night
strange bone
I’m not a big surge fan myself. Typically void kills everything anyways, so it’s...
me & an ogryn cooked a chaos spawn in a corner
it was doing funny numbers to it
flint plover
hab dreyko investigation, still doing first servo skull, and for some reason we have 1 person on the other side of the hab and another on the third floor already
i've never been so confused
bitter pelican
I’m not a big surge fan myself. Typically void kills everything anyways, so it’s...
went nexus/flurry crpc 4/crch 3
feel like 5% on armour targets is more than 1% more crit chance
me neither I just wanted to build one
static needle
Is there any situation where a chainsword might be a good pick for psyker compared to duelling sword?
silk hawk
which one? HM?
static needle
neither
vocal cliff
Right
silk hawk
a bit yes, but it also covered in golden carvings too
may be if i will find white-ish pants later on
i can balance it out
long wharf
I bought that
because it matches very well with the white and gold recolor of the psyker penance set
the snow outfit is too pure white, doesn't match with that fabric
Fashiontide is the real end-game
gloomy magnet
siblings, some new unit dropped
long wharf
siblings, some new unit dropped
is this real?
rich jolt
Btw how do you get your eyes black like that?
rich jolt
is this real?
I think
silk hawk
Btw how do you get your eyes black like that?
there is a special option in the eye settings
long wharf
am I mistaken or is that Wolfer?
rich jolt
Not wolfer
gloomy magnet
Btw how do you get your eyes black like that?
you can change your eye style at barber
rich jolt
Okay
bleak tulip
long wharf
hard to tell where the left arm/hand is
rich jolt
They seem to have the same helmet as the flak shooters
silk hawk
only one leg
he is in a run animation i believe :0
long wharf
maybe an upgraded Rinda?
rich jolt
Could be a new enemy type
silk hawk
more like maulers alternative for existing ones
rich jolt
It's probably something theyre working on
long wharf
or yeah, it's not actually out yet
goddamn, I am thirsty for new content
shove it into my face already FartShack
silk hawk
fk it i am gona buy that helmet...
rich jolt
I think the idea of a watered down in terms of strength rinda as an elite would be kickass
gloomy magnet
new update = i will repatch mods again
rich jolt
New update = new jank to worry about
rich jolt
shove it into my face already FartShack
Fartshart
bleak tulip
why the fuck do people keep thinking we're gonna get cosmetics that make you look like a fuckin enemy lmao
long wharf
I mean... there have been a few times when I've spun around and shot at a friendly veteran and ogryn
because in the heat of battle their outline matches an enemy outline
bleak tulip
also if I had to guess this might be a mission modifier where a captain spawns as a boss randomly or something since this just looks like a renegade captain
long wharf
a mission modifier for a random spawn captain would be interesting
bleak tulip
I mean they already did it for the karnaks
rich jolt
People were asking for the twins to stay
Also it says "on the prowl" so whatever it is its not waiting for us to come to it
long wharf
that wording got me moist, ngl
premature excitement, happens to us all from time to time
also, I am very guilty of buying Darktide cosmetics
long wharf
I am FartShack's target whale
signal summit
Hello siblings, would anyone be willing to help a fellow psyker to get the Malleus Monstronum Penance? Don't know if I'm at the right place to ask..
bleak tulip
generally better to ask in lfg
long wharf
your best bet is going to be the LFG channels
signal summit
Ah yes, already set a request out there. I'll just wait patiently then
long wharf
typically between 5pm and 10pm EST
signal summit
Apologies for the interruption!
bleak tulip
its not against the rules or anything but its less likely youll find someone here
long wharf
that's when the majority of the community is active
you can also jump into the other chats asking for help in exchange for helping them with their private-only penances
it's best to have a group that understands that the goal is penances, not killing/completions
plucky flax
Good luck me fren.
zealous pewter
Hey does the MK IV force sword have a Vanguard attack for its secondary? The gameslantern site says it does but in the YT video i'm watching it doesn't appear to
bleak tulip
the fuck even is a secondary action
long wharf
check in-game
spice veldt
I'm not sure what you mean by vanguard, but the mk4 has a stab as it's 2nd heavy
bleak tulip
gameslantern is weird
sometimes
idk here's their video on the deimos maybe that help https://youtu.be/2-k7LIIm4Bo
imma assume "secondary" to them means heavy
and no its more of a stabby heavy
queen fog
long wharf
deimos is for stabbing, illisi is for slashing
shut shoal
From other lads perspective is purgatus spam blinding? Been a long time since i've seen another psyker using one.
harsh urchin
From other lads perspective is purgatus spam blinding? Been a long time since i'...
it's aite, and there are mods are make it better
long wharf
it can be a full-screen fire effect
it's not a big deal if your team is pinging religiously
if not, well, then it can be a problem
harsh urchin
main reason you haven't seen too many is probably because it's not that strong
shut shoal
cool, finally bothered to get a good one a build around it. Don't wanna be screwing other peoples games with it though.
long wharf
play what you want
bleak tulip
people overreact tbh
shut shoal
main reason you haven't seen too many is probably because it's not that strong
it might not be strong but damn they made that fire so tasty looking
the perfect teal hue for flame
bleak tulip
nobody's bitching about zealot flamer and its basically the same shit
its just not as bright
shut shoal
tyty
plucky flax
Because you use purgatus the whole map.
bleak tulip
and yeah if it bothers someone so much they can mod that shit out
plucky flax
Flamer only during big mixed horde.
Blue fire is more blinding than orange fire to me also. 
bleak tulip
skill issue
harsh urchin
nobody's bitching about zealot flamer and its basically the same shit
ye in terms of color it's the same shit
plucky flax
harsh urchin
flamer is quite a bit stronger though
plucky flax
I'm sowwy.
bleak tulip
get stronger eyes
long wharf
Blue fire is more blinding than orange fire to me also. <:staregryn:102208508384...
this is some heretic bullshit right here
harsh urchin
due to chastise existing
long wharf
that's Bomber propaganda
long wharf
just get new ones, ezpz
bleak tulip
but yeah theres already enough shit that makes you lack information yet people still dont ping enough
plucky flax
I'll go to the local tech priest and ask for a new set of eyes. Cheers.
plucky flax
D:
zealous pewter
nobody's bitching about zealot flamer and its basically the same shit
luckily nobody uses the flamer because it's horrible
zealous pewter
for RP reasons?
spice veldt
uh oh, a bad flamer take in psyker chat
harsh urchin
the flamer is really good lol
rich jolt
I use it. It definitely needs buffed
harsh urchin
terrible flamer takes lul
zealous pewter
the flamer is really good lol
compared to what?
rich jolt
^
zealous pewter
let's do a side by side vs the columnus V
harsh urchin
wdym compared to what? it's just a strong weapon
spice veldt
it does its job as an infinite cleave weapon
what more can you ask
why are you comparing it to a single-target weapon
long wharf
flamer used to be even better than it is now
bleak tulip
oh no its this conversation again
spice veldt
what in the world
long wharf
it's still fun to sling napalm
spice veldt
have you considered that two weapons can fulfill different roles
long wharf
have you considered that two weapons can fulfill different roles
shhh, this is a smoothbrain conversation
spice veldt
and that single-target damage is not the be-all and end-all, especially when you can supplement it elsewhere
rich jolt
Its slow and extremely clunky and its damage output without blessings is okay at best
zealous pewter
right but the flamer's role is bad
plucky flax
I'll take flamer buff.
zealous pewter
and it's bad at it
harsh urchin
wdym lol
spice veldt
it's role isn't bad, and neither is it bad at it
plucky flax
As a knife + flamer main.
bleak tulip
flamer bad lets buff it 
harsh urchin
flamer completely destroys mixed hordes
spice veldt
alright, what is its role, and how is it bad at it?
harsh urchin
which IMO are some of the biggest threats in the game
trash hordes are like whatever
spice veldt
it takes time for it to ramp up, but it's got infinite cleave and will equally spread burn and deal damage to everything in its cone
rich jolt
I just want a slight handling speed buff and itd be fine
spice veldt
and compared to purgatus, zealot has Chastise
long wharf
Okay, everyone look at the kitty and simmer your tits
bleak tulip
bad psyker chat take acquired
long wharf
harsh urchin
if you get teammates that can't kill snipers/bombers/etc
bleak tulip
fox 2
plucky flax
Why? I win every game I'm on flamer.
harsh urchin
but it's a super good weapon
spice veldt
i can feel my braincells eroding each time i use purg/flamer so bad weapon
long wharf
I don't like using purge because it doesn't feel good to use
rich jolt
Its probably not a good or responsible idea but i run flamer with flame nades for double fire
long wharf
there's nothing visceral about it
rich jolt
I don't like using purge because it doesn't feel good to use
What blessings
long wharf
there are no blessings that chance how purge is used
rich jolt
There are blessings that make it much much better
long wharf
I didn't say it doesn't kill
plucky flax
Flamer is good for zealot. Purga bad for psyker.
bleak tulip
guys void it bad it doesnt even set enemies on fire without a blessing
rich jolt
I meant to use mainly. Without chained secondary charge its very sluggish
bleak tulip
buff fire void
long wharf
give void infinite cleave please
bleak tulip
yeah I am consistently at 300 apm thats why I dont play so much 
shut shoal
was not aware this question would start such a heated debate
rich jolt
Revert assail nerfs and nerf bb
hearty dagger
Day...I don't even know anymore of upgrading Illisis so i can get bloodthirsty
Still no Bloodthirsty
plucky flax
It's one of the rarer blessing.
long wharf
bloodthirsty is only good for memes now
long wharf
I don't even use my god rolled power sword anymore
hearty dagger
Funny thing is, i rolled a Voidstrike with WN and Surge.
shut shoal
Void is okay a bit too hard to play.
voidstrike is so slow to charge it feel like its made for a different game
long wharf
charging it every three swings isn't fun
hearty dagger
I haven't even gotten one Illisi with Bloodthirsty
long wharf
void's charge time makes it need more cleaving
plucky flax
voidstrike is so slow to charge it feel like its made for a different game
Yeah it's solid B tier.
bleak tulip
mfers still havent realized you can use the staff without full charging
its been over a year
hearty dagger
I ran voidstrike for ages before it got overbuffed at which point i became a flame staff psyker.
shut shoal
surge on the otherhand is just autoclick with an occasional F to win
hearty dagger
I refuse to run the meta.
plucky flax
Based surge enjoyer.
long wharf
oh, speaking of which
shut shoal
I refuse to run the meta.
jokes on you idk what the meta is
long wharf
@harsh urchin I am formally declaring you correct in our prior disagreement about how to build a surge staff
bleak tulip
they should bring back the infinite surge cancel 😔
plucky flax
What's the build?
bleak tulip
plucky flax
Maybe my surge staff is trash.
long wharf
what is that nonsense
plucky flax
25% flak 25% maniac.
bleak tulip
you dont remember that?
long wharf
nope
plucky flax
It's called skills.
shut shoal
dear god i get enough audio glitches with that staff as is
bleak tulip
this was back when surge actually didnt do damage too so that was fun
shut shoal
speaking, anybody else get a weird triple tick sound crap with surge regularly?
harsh urchin
<@102907539565326336> I am formally declaring you correct in our prior disagreem...
what was the disagreement again? lol
spice veldt
ohhhh the surge cancelling
harsh urchin
i cant even remember
spice veldt
the good ol' days
long wharf
crit chance vs +elite perks
bleak tulip
not only the cancel but the fact it doesnt peril your balls
spice veldt
can't believe they took this away from us 😔
tacit sorrel
Did peril work differently back then, because the continued spam at 100% peril is what I find questionable.
harsh urchin
oh yeah, crit chance is like super not worth except on a few specific builds/weapons
plucky flax
Just queue up a game with purga cos I'm lazy and want to put minimal effort.
spice veldt
it's the same, but there was a bug where cancelling the surge cast with sprint avoided the suicide animation
long wharf
if you want minimal effort, you run assail
shut shoal
Just queue up a game with purga cos I'm lazy and want to put minimal effort. <a:...
okay, rude.
fickle swallow
Surge is just so comfy to play. For quite some time I play purgatus & void only and I didn't get into surge build until recently, and I find it to be the psyker playstyle with the best QoL. I can finally lay back and relax when playing psyker instead of being in a spin and panic all the time.
long wharf
Surge is just so comfy to play. For quite some time I play purgatus & void only ...
I like your pfp. That movie was great
lunar hollow
it's the same, but there was a bug where cancelling the surge cast with sprint a...
once again proving exercise cures depression
olive ember
Doesn’t avoiding the suicide animation just mean you instant blow up
bleak tulip
now it does generally eah
spice veldt
you neither entered the suicide animation or blew up
you could just continue spamming it with sprint cancelling
bleak tulip
fun fact, if you ledge yourself with a headache you just fucking die
spice veldt
so sad
olive ember
<:Squint:714457749525758013>
2022… the era of bleed knife zealots and shield ogryns
Oh wait
bleak tulip
long wharf
"era" = 1.5 months
summer prairie
We had a few days or a week of bleed stacking itself and shriek making all targets bleed if you had it on your knife
shut shoal
the fact that i can top entire missions knowingly using a suboptimal build with surge feels a bit wack
summer prairie
still didn't feel as good as the current shriek
long wharf
or when the blessings that can insta-kill humans could insta-kill anything in the game that wasn't a boss
bleak tulip
and yeah bleed self stacking was funny
spice veldt
including your own teammates
bleak tulip
yeah
spice veldt
bleed knife players truly were OP
long wharf
just further proof of how not-ready-for-release the game was on release
shut shoal
just further proof of how not-ready-for-release the game was on release
the "coming soon" on crafting wasnt a good indicator?
long wharf
oh, it was
summer prairie
infernus also didn't have a stack cap other than the general 31, so you could run infernus recon + bleed self stacking shriek
long wharf
I said "further" proof, not "only"
shut shoal
still want 100% on my weapons, 80% feels so euuuugh
long wharf
yeah, infernus recon at release was nuts
limber silo
I still enjoy me a little infernus on my lasguns
limber silo
Not on laspistol imo
olive ember
I miss when recon las was good smh
long wharf
and then there was bolter's pinning fire that was nuts
then shredder pistol's pinning fire
then they attempted to fix weapon blessings being active when not the active weapon
but the revolver fell through
limber silo
I do miss the days of reaching ridiculous amounts of power with some blessings
Someone would always argue that UP was op on FS, but slaughterer gave 75% power vs it's 20%
Now I just use both on my gunker build so now my illisi is nuts with SG active
junior linden
I swear to god I keep accidentally falling into meta builds
"oh autogun seems fun"
Then I get called a sweat iT HURTS
junior linden
Thank you
junior linden
Scrier's Gaze makes me feel like I'm on the emperor's own adderall
tight moss
Smoking some of the warp dosh
long wharf
the emperor's special warp stash
idle bay
Warp Dust you mean?
long wharf
that Chaos Ganja
idle bay
that Chaos Ganja
rare arrow
"oh autogun seems fun"
Auto gun is meta?
long wharf
it certainly works with gunpsyker
limber silo
Auto gun is meta?
Columnus IAG is pretty nuts on every class rn
junior linden
Yeah, columnus is broken
idle bay
Even poorly rolled like this will do?
junior linden
More than fine
onyx sentinel
looks sick
junior linden
The traitor captains look really cool up close like this, never really got a good look at them in game
onyx sentinel
The traitor captains look really cool up close like this, never really got a goo...
The armours are new, no? Seems like they’re teasing a new assassination mission
willow hazel
Anyone else like Speedload on their Columnus?
granite mauve
i think they're teasing that we'll get to have a random chance to get a scab captain in the middle of the mission
much like we got 1 of the twins at random
onyx sentinel
That’d be pretty cool
junior linden
Today I learned there’s invisible fire
This was an issue at NASA at one point, to deal with the invisible fires they were having, they'd carry around wooden brooms and stick them out in front of them, if it burst into flames, they found the fire and they knew they probably shouldn't walk any more forward and call their supervisors
I'm serious
junior linden
i think the helmet is new
Ah I see!
static needle
Bricked?
long wharf
sadly
static needle
This one is a definate invest tho, right?
static needle
is surgical 4 really that important?
long wharf
I'd replace unyielding
static needle
with?
long wharf
flak or maniac
static needle
why tho? you want to hit weakspots with this thing no matter
olive ember
psure maniac and flak both give breakpoints
long wharf
right, but do you always?
static needle
i got this too
long wharf
with that revolver, you have a flex perk to play with
cerulean fox
is chaining BB on bosses the highest DPS?
long wharf
no
static needle
is chaining BB on bosses the highest DPS?
dont think so, shooting with an autogun in scrier's gaze using dumdum is
cerulean fox
ah, not running sciers or autogun...
cerulean fox
i think i've seen that purg staff does good dps at high stacks but then you switch out
static needle
i just know autoguns + scriers melts bosses
zinc phoenix
Too bad we can’t use trauma and depression to kill bosses with psychic damage 😢
harsh urchin
psure maniac and flak both give breakpoints
Yep
Flak gives crit body and non crit head
Maniac gives a crit head
Or the other way around idr
cerulean fox
I've been having a lot of fun with this, but not sure how to roll it
spamming special attack over and over with a high peril build
blazing spirit is kinda meh since it usually just kills things outright
cerulean fox
I thought I saw somewhere that rending gives a reduced bonus +damage to all enemies - is that true?
harsh urchin
It only works on armor and non trash yes
cerulean fox
ok, found the patch notes. anything that isn't naked/rotting. thanks!
rare arrow
Yes = uncanny, no=slaught
Could do both
Could also do uncanny strike and deflector if you want a more defensive option
harsh urchin
he wants to use bloodthirsty
rare arrow
Ah I didn’t scroll up enough to see that
Admittedly I’ve never used bloodthirsty. So is the rotation for this special into H2, or just special H1 spam.
limber silo
Admittedly I’ve never used bloodthirsty. So is the rotation for this special int...
I've never used bloodthirsty because I CAN"T FUCKING ROLL IT. Not that's it's good tho
long wharf
it used to be the best blessing for the force sword
rare arrow
So guaranteed crit on the second hit seems meh.
long wharf
used to be 5 seconds of guaranteed crits on special kill
rare arrow
But doesn’t everything in the psykers kit do that?
Smite and assail, void strike, train, purg (except carapace), etc
Having a melee weapon that does the same thing seems, idk like it narrows the build
limber silo
used to be 5 seconds of guaranteed crits on special kill
It's still so rare that I never got the chance to experience that
rare arrow
I’d prefer deflector so you at least have it as a defensive option for non-shield builds.
limber silo
I’d prefer deflector so you at least have it as a defensive option for non-shiel...
Deflector is a crutch blessing imo
long wharf
It's still so rare that I never got the chance to experience that
I tried to get it before the change, but I could not
it's a very rare t4 blessing
limber silo
Learn how to use cover and you can go without it
harsh urchin
not really because having more options simply... gives you more options lol
for example, if you used revolver shots to clear out ragers
and now you don't have a shot for a special
vs if your melee weapon just clears everything
rare arrow
Deflector is a crutch blessing imo
It adds another element that you can work with
We are the Swiss Army knife of classes
limber silo
It adds another element that you can work with
Debatable
long wharf
I run slaughterer+deflector on my force swords
rare arrow
If bloodthirsty was out here adding mutie/crusher one shots then we are talking
limber silo
Just don't stand in a firing lane
harsh urchin
mutants and crushers aren't super threatening tbh
limber silo
Slaught + UP/Uncanny/Riposte/Precog
zinc phoenix
Learn how to use cover and you can go without it
Better to shed a little damage on melee for deflector and occasionally whip it out to block your team thru a tunnel of gun than give up shriek for bubble/shield
limber silo
there are so many good blessings on FS that Deflector is kinda in a weird place for me
rare arrow
I don’t use slaughterer either, but I also don’t use force swords
zinc phoenix
Deflector is a good blessing 🧠
limber silo
If those blessings weren't good (like they used to be) then Deflector would be BIS
limber silo
Deflector is a good blessing 🧠
I don't disagree, but there are better blessings, that's the problem
rare arrow
Deflector is absolutely fine, it’s just less damage for more survivability.
More damage is not strictly better
It’s just a different avenue
limber silo
I stray away from choices that can be remedied by playing better
harsh urchin
right but more damage is always better if you can simply deal with it lol
limber silo
Also, the ranged invincibility on crit completely nullifies Deflect
flint plover
the kind of things people say to subtly say "im better than you"
harsh urchin
it's not really that
limber silo
the kind of things people say to subtly say "im better than you"
Never said that.
How will I get better if I lean on things that I don't need?
harsh urchin
it's just that due to the existence of classes without deflector
rare arrow
the kind of things people say to subtly say "im better than you"
It’s not even that. The game has situations where an enemy like a reaper spawns behind you with sight lines on you. Deflector helps
harsh urchin
darktide gives you options to dodge ranged
that work on every class
via ogryn, zealot, vet, etc
flint plover
It’s not even that. The game has situations where an enemy like a reaper spawns ...
I was directing my assumption towards the deflection deniers
limber silo
Kinetic Deflection however... I can't live without that
harsh urchin
especially since the blessings are so good
rare arrow
I just don’t entertain the “play better” arguement
rare arrow
I was directing my assumption towards the deflection deniers
I know I agree with you
long wharf
honestly, kinetic deflection needs to be something all force swords do when the player blocks with one
limber silo
I just don’t entertain the “play better” arguement
There is a balance
I'm not an idiot who gets rid of all survivability because I just need to "play better"
west fox
is this good or trash? Idk how valuable cleave is on this weapon, as it's all strikedowns
harsh urchin
yep
it's all a trade-off
for example, I also take KD on all my builds
because it's too good defensively
but saccing a blessing on a FS
is very hard for me
limber silo
I tank up as much as needed then I ask "what do I not need?" and usually the answer is stuff like Deflector, Momentum, etc.
limber silo
is this good or trash? Idk how valuable cleave is on this weapon, as it's all st...
Bro, when did Decap get buffed?
harsh urchin
so giving up that for a defensive blessing is a very tough choice
harsh urchin
is this good or trash? Idk how valuable cleave is on this weapon, as it's all st...
cleave isn't super important due to BM
spice veldt
cleave basically doesn't matter
limber silo
Decap + Bromentum is kinda crazy
harsh urchin
decap kinda sucks unfortunately
west fox
So I buy this then
harsh urchin
cuz it only works on trash
and doesn't help you against the targets you really need the power against
west fox
hmm
limber silo
cuz it only works on trash
But you can cleave more since you kill harder, right?
120% fineese is kinda nuts
harsh urchin
no bcz i think it already one-shots everything you hit
in the head
and you have BM
limber silo
and you have BM
BM only works up to three targets
limber silo
wouldn't doing more damage increase the cleave cap?
harsh urchin
wouldn't doing more damage increase the cleave cap?
yes but we're not using the cleave cap at all
we're ignoring it in favor of BM
spice veldt
and the damage falloff of the 5th target being hit
limber silo
Idk, last time I tried to use a combat axe it didn't seem to be as op as pre rework
teal needle
Yeah I'm struggling to think of illisi blessings besides slaughterer that i actually care about
spice veldt
it's less safe now but does more DPS, particularly against bruisers (assuming you can hit the one-shot on them)
limber silo
Then again, I hate combat axes
teal needle
Like i wouldn't judge anyone at all for running deflector on illisi you aren't giving that much up
limber silo
Where are my two handed axes? Where cog axe on Skitarii (where Skitarii?!?!)
zinc phoenix
honestly, kinetic deflection needs to be something all force swords do when the ...
It really do be tho
harsh urchin
Yeah I'm struggling to think of illisi blessings besides slaughterer that i actu...
really? lol
not trying to be mean or anything but that's very surprising
because FS probably has the best blessings out of any melee in the game
ornate hamlet
The strikes that are most likely to lack canny
zinc phoenix
Idk I do most of my in close killing with blaze trauma so giving up melee damage for good survivability is easy trade
Me jumpin around like a jelly bean on auric mael makin the boom booms 😂
Maybe people who roleplay as blunts care more about the sword
limber silo
My blessings for Deimos are Uncanny + Deflector, but Illisi is Slaughterer + UP
limber silo
Maybe people who roleplay as blunts care more about the sword
Counterpoint: MAGIC sword
zinc phoenix
I like trauma + deimos and surge + illsi as my staff sword combos. If I were gonna do a col IAG with gaze I might go ds4 for the poke of doom tho
But… glowy sword 🤔
limber silo
My blessings for [REDACTED] is there a third FS?
teal needle
Yeah, you just need slaughterer to 1-shot into crowds of everything short of elites, i usually whip out staff for elites. Or assail/bb
limber silo
Illisi with Slaught+UP and SG active is just chewing through hordes
zinc phoenix
Illisi with Slaught+UP and SG active is just chewing through hordes
Blaze trauma users like look what they need to reach a fraction of our power
limber silo
Blaze trauma users like *look what they need to reach a fraction of our power*
Have fun with your silly boom staff, I actually get kill streak callouts
Plus I use it with my gunker build
teal needle
Trauma may be the worst killing staff except for surge but it's super easy to get kill steak callouts with it lol
zinc phoenix
Find poxwalker horde -> two shot all of it -> endless callouts
limber silo
I only seem to get the callouts on Trauma when I'm in a hallway
otherwise enemies are too spread out from throwing them everywhere
zinc phoenix
Oh I have a pretty wicked one
Anyway lighting everything on fire and then screeching more fire on them is a lot of fire
teal needle
I usually pair dueling sword with trauma staff, extremes in opposite directions
teal needle
And drop shield with that combo because doorways into gunner rooms suck otherwise
zinc phoenix
Just do deflector Deimos and shriek
You can walk into room, ree, refuse to explain, walk out
limber silo
CS + Trauma
Duel + Purge
Illisi + Void
Illisi/Duel + Guns
I don't use Surge because it's yucky
zinc phoenix
Surge is based, stacks peril like a monster and snapshots specials real nice
Also all the crits
teal needle
I just can't deal with surge, it feels like VS just does the same thing about as well and then does a bunch more
limber silo
Surge is based, stacks peril like a monster and snapshots specials real nice
Surge is garbage rng damage with shitty blessings
No unique blessings at all smh
limber silo
So... you use Surge when you have something else to carry it? At that point it's a glorified peril stick
I use Smite + Shriek for mixed hordes and that's about it. It's so boring
hasty breach
just checking. IS THERE a lacerate tier 4 on dagger?
limber silo
just checking. IS THERE a lacerate tier 4 on dagger?
Yes, you're just unlucky
hasty breach
i was worried it was like burning spirit
harsh urchin
just checking. IS THERE a lacerate tier 4 on dagger?
lacerate is not super good though
just fyi
limber silo
So far the only blessing I've seen that doesn't have a T4 variant (if it has variants to begin with) was Blaze Away on Kickback
harsh urchin
lots don't.
limber silo
for some reason BA only goes to T3 on Kickback specifically
harsh urchin
run n gun, blaze, flechette, manstopper, focused channeling
hasty breach
lacerate is not super good though
im sort of collecting for a zealot and stuff i might make someday
limber silo
Let me clarify: Some blessings don't have multiple tiers at all. BA on kickback DOES, but not T4
limber silo
run n gun, blaze, flechette, manstopper, focused channeling
Those all have a single tier, but BA on kickback has 3 tiers, not 4
harsh urchin
there's also a few that're 4 only, like bloodthirsty, surge, old powersword
limber silo
there's also a few that're 4 only, like bloodthirsty, surge, old powersword
BRO
BA on other weapons: T1 - T4 exist. BA on kickback: T1 - T3
flint plover
Does anyone know of a bug where the surge staff visual effect looks bad?
I'm getting this out of nowhere
analog agate
Still trying to find out which one is better as blaze trauma. Just got the high dmg one (has to be after 30 million overall). @plucky flax have you found a difference between 80% dmg or much lower dmg in your play time?
teal needle
Surge staff audio sounds like a computer locking up and always stresses me out
harsh urchin
BA on other weapons: T1 - T4 exist. BA on kickback: T1 - T3
also BA is 3 only
on all weapons
limber silo
okay, so I am insane, I have been farming stubbers for months and getting mad for no reason at all
dammit
peak kelp
what are good perks to put on flame staff
ornate hamlet
He fell for the BA4 meme
plucky flax
Still trying to find out which one is better as blaze trauma. Just got the high ...
Left one is real nice use that. THere's a break point at around 74%~ ish damage.
To 1 shot dreg bruiser without any buff.
With low damage like that to get 1 shot dreg bruiser you would need very high peril, or at least 2 warp charges.
It's a significant breakpoint imo for blaze trauma. As you still want to kill everything inside your epicentre.
strong gulch
Yes look at that left blaze trauma.
limber silo
what are good perks to put on flame staff
Nexus + Flurry
plucky flax
It's nearly as good as mine. 
analog agate
🙂
limber silo
I've seen people say Nexus/Flurry + RnG but that's just weird imo
strong gulch
what are good perks to put on flame staff
Perks are flak + crit chance / maniac (unyeilding can also work)
Blessings are nexus + flurry
The only time to stray away from those is if you are trying to do something really specific or meme.
static needle
lacerate is not super good though
??
limber silo
??
It's not like the bleed serves any purpose on psyker other than proccing mercy killer
static needle
It's not like the bleed serves any purpose on psyker other than proccing mercy k...
bruh dont use mercy killer, use uncanny. Far better
static needle
i dont really see the point of running flesh tearer tho
most of the time you apply bleed faster with lacerate
and it helps with hordes too, no?
spice veldt
lacerate = not hitting heads
limber silo
most of the time you apply bleed faster with lacerate
Why don't you just kill the dude with the knife? Take Uncanny + Executor or Precog
spice veldt
and given that the knife is a finesse weapon
what you gain in bleed with lacerate, you lose in damage from not hitting heads
limber silo
Acrotash and Dis are right lacerate sucks
static needle
cant it help with hordes tho?
limber silo
Bleed makes sense on ogryn and zealot
limber silo
Lacerate is great
almost got me
spice veldt
hordeclear is a foregone conclusion on knives so i don't bother with it
limber silo
If you want hore clear on your melee, take a horde clear melee dude
zinc phoenix
it's not actively bad
>it’s not actively bad
If you want to meme infinity dodge just go ds5 and look classy doin it
limber silo
I guess the new knife is okay-ish at horde clear, but requires lots of screen sweeping and can be solved on other classes better
lost cove
How viable is just using smite for the entire mission?
zinc phoenix
How viable is just using smite for the entire mission?
Damage dealt: 0
limber silo
How viable is just using smite for the entire mission?
Don't do it
Garbage idea, have fun having everyone else hate you for it
zinc phoenix
You don’t smite forever, you smite for a four count and then everything else falls over
lost cove
Thats the point
zinc phoenix
Smiting a horde and then screeching it to death with fire is funny tho
lost cove
I have no weapons
limber silo
I have no weapons
Get some
lost cove
I spent all my ordo dockets on swords
zinc phoenix
Ok well be a troll then
limber silo
Play on lower difficulties to get some moneys then buy some weapons
lost cove
Is it truly not viable to just crowd control for the entire session?
limber silo
tbh tho, you don't need god rolls to do damnation
limber silo
Is it truly not viable to just crowd control for the entire session?
Everyone else is doing cc AND damage
you are effectively neutering your team by 25%
don't be an ass. If you REALLY want to go weaponless, just do empowered psionics assail
willow hazel
actually lacerate may be the best blessing for stealing bleed damage
lost cove
What about empowered psionics smite
limber silo
it's not as good as before, but it's still a better idea
limber silo
What about empowered psionics smite
125% of 0 is still 0 damage
lost cove
Ehh, i'll try it
lost cove
Why so
harsh urchin
he's prob just playing on like malice or something
harsh urchin
it'll be fine lol
willow hazel
EP Smite builds are good, just not the most broken thing psyker can do
limber silo
EP Smite builds are good, just not the most broken thing psyker can do
What about EP makes it good on Smite?
willow hazel
If you hit a bunch of enemies it does a lot of damage
limber silo
the fact that it makes you deal 20ish damage a tick instead of 10?
It is not a lot of damage
limber silo
Ep smite get out damaged by just about every single thing in the game
willow hazel
it just depends on the density
limber silo
if you are hitting a couple hordes they die pretty quick
How much health do you think a poxwalker has?
lost cove
Been running auric damnation, warp charge for shield spam seems ok but im considering empowered smite
Dont see many assails, just brain burst
willow hazel
idk which one the poxwalker is, but it's like 300
limber silo
idk which one the poxwalker is, but it's like 300
375
willow hazel
yeah sounds right
limber silo
dealing about 20ish damage a tick to kill a poxwalker is around 4 seconds to kill
willow hazel
groaners are 300 then
limber silo
yes
Smite without EP doesn't even kill every groaner from 0 - 100% peril
Smite with it just barely kills an entire horde from 0 - 100% peril
willow hazel
dealing about 20ish damage a tick to kill a poxwalker is around 4 seconds to kil...
4 seconds to kill for an AoE is much better than you are letting on
limber silo
It does not kill any specials or elites except bombers, it is not for killing things
cold elm
this is currently being sold by melk. should i buy it? if i do i will be broke
limber silo
4 seconds to kill for an AoE is much better than you are letting on
4 seconds is way longer than you realize
lost cove
Isnt it fine to let others kill too?
willow hazel
yeah it's also not a single player game
limber silo
Isnt it fine to let others kill too?
Isn't it way better to have 4 people killing things instead of 3?
rare arrow
Still trying to find out which one is better as blaze trauma. Just got the high ...
The second one
Though, it’s so very small.
willow hazel
but don't let that get in the way of all the doom in gloom
cold elm
this is currently being sold by melk. should i buy it? if i do i will be broke
its a 380 so im really tempted. but idk if i should or not
lost cove
Isn't it way better to have 4 people killing things instead of 3?
Not if the efficiency remains the same, which i believe it does
limber silo
Not if the efficiency remains the same, which i believe it does
Belief and truth are not the same
lost cove
Ehh, i'll change if i start losing
limber silo
The truth is smite spam is one of the worst ways to play psyker, both from a fun standpoint and a strategy standpoint. If staring at a horde is your idea of fun tho, have fun
lost cove
Its fun to win
peak kelp
is all the 25% damage perks useless on purgatus staff?
willow hazel
no they all affect soulblaze damage
limber silo
is all the 25% damage perks useless on purgatus staff?
No, flak and maniac are decent
zinc phoenix
What about EP makes it good on Smite?
The spread speed is massively faster and the stun seems a bit quicker on the big bois like crusher
limber silo
keep in mind, the damage perks are basically "bonus damage to everything you do while holding this thing,"
willow hazel
crits apply 2 stacks of soulblaze, so probably
rare arrow
5% crit worth taking?
Yes
limber silo
The spread speed is massively faster and the stun seems a bit quicker on the big...
It doesn't make the ticks any faster tho, so any faster stunning is a placebo
harsh urchin
5% crit worth taking?
it's really not worth taking
cold elm
speaking of soulblaze purgatus staff. brunt has finally after 1.3 million credits wasted gifted me this. what should i change on it
zinc phoenix
It doesn't make the ticks any faster tho, so any faster stunning is a placebo
It’s a bit quicker because the spread is so much quicker which means all the crushers get tagged faster
limber silo
EP is good for BB and Assail. Smite is probably the most likely to save your run, but not if you spam
rare arrow
it's really not worth taking
It’s one of the 3 BIS options for that slot
harsh urchin
you have enough crit for all your talents just from blessings + being a psyker
zinc phoenix
I mean the big time I’m pulling out smite is them oh shit moment
rare arrow
Flak and maniac being the other two
zinc phoenix
That said I run smite with warp charges
limber silo
I mean the big time I’m pulling out smite is them oh shit moment
fair enough
zinc phoenix
Because I want 🔥 🔥 🔥
limber silo
I run smite on DD and WS
harsh urchin
who is telling you it's BiS?
zinc phoenix
who is telling you it's BiS?
Joe
rare arrow
My brain? But you could also look anywhere
rare arrow
We aren’t hitting any kind of crit cap, and while both flak and maniac are good on purg neither hit thresholds that push it to a faster ttk
harsh urchin
umm... hmm... how do I say this
rare arrow
Though, 5% more crit on a weapon that tags an entire horde is very impactful
zinc phoenix
I take the 5% crit but I view the doing of math to be heresy
rare arrow
Flak and crit have always been the purg go tos
harsh urchin
the only point of crit on it is to activate talents like ranged immunity, because trash dies instantly and non-trash hits the stack cap pretty fast
willow hazel
5% crit is 5% extra soulblaze for Purgatus
rare arrow
And 5 from the perk for 5 more
zinc phoenix
I’m seeing a lot of heresy in this fucking chat
rare arrow
Because you’re building a crit build and don’t sacrifice points that you are focusing?
tight moss
Smite stun is incredibly valuable and yeah you will be trading off some damage but if you run burn shout build you'll still buy your team more than enough space to do their job
Damage aint everything
harsh urchin
it's not a crit build lucian
tight moss
Bosses will fuck you up tho
zinc phoenix
Smite stun is incredibly valuable and yeah you will be trading off some damage b...
If you spend whole time smiting you’re a dingus and deserve all the pox walker booty clapping you’ll inevitably receive
harsh urchin
and enemies that die die regardless if you crit or not
tight moss
But smite autokills pox walkers
harsh urchin
add that to the fact that you have high base crit
and the 5% perk is pretty much wasted
tight moss
zinc phoenix
But smite autokills pox walkers
Tell that to the ones that teleport behind you
rare arrow
Agree to disagree I suppose
analog agate
Left one is real nice use that. THere's a break point at around 74%~ ish damage.
fyi I just tested it. I think the breakpoint is different now. for dreg bruiser at no warp charges and charging to 20% you only do 684 dmg out of 688. You need either 1 warp charge or 30% charge to one shot a bruiser with 78% dmg for trauma without unarmored. With 80% dmg you do 687. So, there is no breakpoint for trauma anymore without some kind of dmg buff
rare arrow
Out here taking every crit talent and blessing, but thinks the crit perk is bad. I don’t really know how to defend it against you.
tight moss
Still, smite's incredibly good.
zinc phoenix
BB underrated
tight moss
(Betting it will get nerfed honestly)
zinc phoenix
Nah
There are so many more busted things you can do
Like gunlugger has infinity health and does absolutely absurd damage
You get punched by pogryn and take like 1 toughness damage
harsh urchin
Out here taking every crit talent and blessing, but thinks the crit perk is bad....
wut lol
tight moss
Ogryn strong, yes?
harsh urchin
it's the same reason finesse builds don't take crit and weakspot on perks
tight moss
Now if only gunluggers stopped stealing every ammo bag off the face of tertium
tight moss
But power has a price
willow hazel
to 25% damage perks
that's because most weapons are aiming for breakpoints
junior linden
dealing with a horde so it doesn't ambush us in the next area where it's a lot harder to deal with them
get spam pinged and accused of stat padding
zinc phoenix
Now if only gunluggers stopped stealing every ammo bag off the face of tertium
When I gunlug I only allow myself to burn one full ammo load per major event. Like if my team starts getting downed I obliterate everything around us. Or if a boss shows up I will mag dump twice. Otherwise no shooty 
harsh urchin
that's because most weapons are aiming for breakpoints
no lol. that's not why lmao
willow hazel
purgatus doesn't have breakpoints. 5% crit is 5% more soulblaze, the reason to run the staff
harsh urchin
even with non breakpoint weapons such as IAG or shredder
tight moss
Ogryn big brain here!
harsh urchin
the 25% perks are just numerically overtuned compared to the weakspot/crit perks
tight moss
Haha I run into lots of gungryns on Auric Maelstrom that suck up ammo like vacuums, you are appreciated sir
willow hazel
even with non breakpoint weapons such as IAG or shredder
shredder has shit crit damage and the IAGs get free crit from true aim
tight moss
They'll shoot everything, even chaff
harsh urchin
even on vet/zealot
tight moss
I appreciate when a gungryn knows how and when to conserve ammo
limber silo
Damage aint everything
Yeah, but sure is hell is when other people are doing your job and damage at the same time
static needle
hordeclear is a foregone conclusion on knives so i don't bother with it
Not a foregone conclusion with scrier's gaze + flesh tearer
harsh urchin
shredder has shit crit damage and the IAGs get free crit from true aim
fair enough on shredder, but even on vet/zealot
tight moss
Most runs get killed because of a lack of CC, rather than a lack of damage
limber silo
But smite autokills pox walkers
Is 4 whole seconds your idea of automatic?
not to mention it doesn't even kill all the pox walkers
tight moss
Bruh you just gotta stand there and hit smite
Poxwalkers all die if you hit them w/ lightning
lost cove
Most runs get killed because of a lack of CC, rather than a lack of damage
I do agree on this actually
limber silo
Most runs get killed because of a lack of CC, rather than a lack of damage
Most runs end because people aren't killing HVT
junior linden
the way I control the crowd is by making the crowd cease to exist
tight moss
^ Thats the ideal but I still highly appreciate my smite psykers
limber silo
I don't die because I got caught in a horde, I die because there's too many bombers, crushers, hounds, etc still alive
cold ivy
nets and fire
limber silo
the way I control the crowd is by making the crowd cease to exist
This is the way
willow hazel
Most runs end because people aren't killing HVT
I can't believe I have to defend smite, but you can CC the specials while killing the horde
cold ivy
those two together end a lotta runs
static needle
i wonder... if im gonna use catachan 6 knife with scriers gaze, is it worth running flesh tearer with uncanny or should I go with precognition/executioner instead?
tight moss
Or sometimes mixed horde
limber silo
I can't believe I have to defend smite, but you can CC the specials while killin...
Smite is not for basic ass hordes. It is for the crusher/mauler/rager squads that come to fuck you up
Smite is not bad, you're just using it in a garbage way
willow hazel
Smite is not for basic ass hordes. It is for the crusher/mauler/rager squads th...
If you are running EP Smite it's good against hordes. Like comparable to Purgatus
harsh urchin
I can't believe I have to defend smite, but you can CC the specials while killin...
yeah but the conversation isn't about using smite properly. the conversation is about only using smite the entire game and nothing else.
limber silo
Smite + Shriek is good for mixed hordes, but the smite only exists in that combo to get your peril up fast
junior linden
^ Thats the ideal but I still highly appreciate my smite psykers
I run smite as utility because I don't like brain burst and assails skill tree is ass, when my scrier's Gaze is on cool down I usually smite if there's a few crushers or maulers about to eat my poor defenseless vet
willow hazel
Yeah don't only use smite. Kill the lone mauler with a melee weapon please
tight moss
I actually kinda like assail but I hate brain burst, myself
limber silo
6 stacks of soulblaze kills gunner patrols. Smite doesn't even kill all groaners if your rng is even mildly low
tight moss
Smite is by far the best choice imo
analog agate
So yeah, for trauma the breakpoint for a dreg bruiser (without dmg to unarmored) has to take into account you must have one warp charge at around 74%. You cannot kill a dreg bruiser, even with 80% dmg, with one shot at low peril
tight moss
Hoping brain burst gets buffed to be faster
teal needle
I'm a bb apologist
tight moss
I see the rare psyker that gets value out of it, but it does such a niche thing
junior linden
Id like assail if it's nodes weren't poop from a butt, I like brain burst with warp charges
shut shoal
as anybody but the smite psyker on the team. Stop smiting poxwalkers, just let them walk into my weapons so they die faster please.
limber silo
I run smite as utility because I don't like brain burst and assails skill tree i...
There we have it. Smite is utility just like the other blitzes. Not a weapon. Not for damage. For cc and cc alone
static needle
For using catachan 6 knife with scriers gaze, is it worth running flesh tearer as your second blessing or should I go with precognition or executioner instead of FT?
limber silo
Precog
spice veldt
assail has nice nodes on its own
limber silo
assail has nice nodes on its own
Executioner is fine too
teal needle
Bb with empower and two charge drop wall means you can super comfortably no-brain shottie or gunner or rager packs
spice veldt
the only real flaw of the right side that i see is that you have to path into mind in motion when going left from assail and scrier's gaze is the ult along the right branch
limber silo
I prefer precog
junior linden
My issue with assail is that after the nerfs id rather just shoot them with my gun or my staff or actually have crowd control
limber silo
assail has nice nodes on its own
The problem with assail is it stops me from getting Psykinetic's Aura which is WAY more powerful than the perks below assail
static needle
is executioner always better for bosses or have i got things twisted? @limber silo
willow hazel
assail is great crowd control
spice veldt
and helps with your ammo economy
static needle
assail is great crowd control
combined with warp damage talents, yes
spice veldt
assail's nerfs are overstated
willow hazel
I mean it staggers ragers and maulers
spice veldt
it got a milquetoast nerf to its CD and damage
and it still has 10 max shards to burn through
static needle
and helps with your ammo economy
gunker moment ✊
spice veldt
its ammo economy still needs to be shot in its knees
limber silo
is executioner always better for bosses or have i got things twisted? <@42176153...
I like precog because I am always dodging, so basically 60% finesse 100% of the time, which means my strikes do way more damage always
you gotta build executioner
static needle
true...
willow hazel
When they nerfed the CD, most psykers weren't even running Quick Shards anyway
limber silo
and helps with your ammo economy
Just melee the horde
junior linden
If it didn't lock me out of Psykinetic's aura I'd still use it don't get me wrong I just like smite as a panic button
static needle
I like precog because I am always dodging, so basically 60% finesse 100% of the ...
do you always heavy attack spam in the head or sometimes light attack while u have precog active?
limber silo
Depends on the knife
static needle
Just melee the horde
its not just for hordes, very useful for ragers too
static needle
Depends on the knife
howd u play with knife 6
junior linden
Gunker gang
limber silo
its not just for hordes, very useful for ragers too
Just melee the ragers, nothing will go wrong
limber silo
howd u play with knife 6
Heavy spam
static needle
hm
limber silo
or push attack spam
static needle
does it have better heavies than knife 3?
limber silo
it's decent
shut shoal
is it me or is the newer knife just kinda shite?
limber silo
is it me or is the newer knife just kinda shite?
It's just a little funky
willow hazel
just you
harsh urchin
skissue probably
limber silo
does it have better heavies than knife 3?
Single target vs, sweeping heavies pick one
willow hazel
The new knife has push attack for single target, like the old one, but also better AoE
long summit
For Staffs, what has a better primary fire Void Strike or Trauma? Or are they the same?
willow hazel
same
junior linden
Same
long summit
thanks
junior linden
willow hazel
if you are running the Surge blessing on Void, it affects primary
dreamy girder
plucky flax
fyi I just tested it. I think the breakpoint is different now. for dreg bruiser ...
It's at 22% for me on my 80% damage staff.
static needle
I like precog because I am always dodging, so basically 60% finesse 100% of the ...
You running anticipation?
limber silo
no I can't with seer's presence
static needle
would u if u ran crit aura?
limber silo
I would, but seer's is better imo
static needle
I would, but seer's is better imo
malefic momentum tho
limber silo
don't like it
static needle
i guess u still have a point to spare for it tbh
limber silo
I run knife with purge when I do
junior linden
Knife seems cool but I reaaaallyyy like dueling sword
Sidestepping a mutant just as it passes you and weakspot heavy killing it chef's kiss
static needle
Sidestepping a mutant just as it passes you and weakspot heavy killing it *chef'...
no need to sidestep with DS
limber silo
Knife seems cool but I reaaaallyyy like dueling sword
That's I don't usually run knife at all
junior linden
no need to sidestep with DS <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Better safe than sorry with server jank
In my experience with pve games
static needle
That's I don't usually run knife at all
If you were to, tho, do you run flak damage on ur knife?
limber silo
If you were to, tho, do you run flak damage on ur knife?
I have 65% finesse on my knife, so i run flak and maniac to one shot stalkers and flamers
static needle
I have 65% finesse on my knife, so i run flak and maniac to one shot stalkers an...
so you wouldnt run unyielding under any circumstance for knife?
limber silo
so you wouldnt run unyielding under any circumstance for knife?
I wouldn't because I want those breakpoints
I just use purge for boss damage
silver solstice
Question for you guys, Disrupt Destiny's Cruel Fortune talent in the keystone gives you two additional stacks of disrupt destiny on weakspot kills. Does this work at all with the surge staff? I think I heard that the surge staff could no longer hit weakspots on the charge attack now.
teal needle
First we gotta hunt down someone who actually uses SS and DD
harsh urchin
Question for you guys, Disrupt Destiny's Cruel Fortune talent in the keystone gi...
it does not work with weapons that don't hit weakspots
silver solstice
darn shame
static needle
darn shame
if you have assail or a knife/duelling sword, then killing enemies with weakspots to get stacks is ezpz
silver solstice
yeah I that should work. Assail already goes for head head basically...
static needle
yeah I that should work. Assail already goes for head head basically...
ye, even moreso if you aim
BRUNT WTF.....
lost cove
BRUNT WTF..... <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
I'd kill you for that
static needle
I'd kill you for that
uh uh, ya dont know yet 😉
silver solstice
BRUNT WTF..... <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
god tier
hope hadron blesses you
static needle
mhm
just need some plasteel is all
ima poor fugger
makin ends meet to feed my plasteel craving family
half iron
every day i wake up i have 28 plasteel
strong gulch
My cat trolled me pretty good. I play mouse and keyboard, but I left my controller plugged in. He walked over and stepped on the joy sticks mid match. My camera was a spinning. 😵💫
Luckily a trapper caught me and safely tucked me away until everything was sorted.
teal needle
All cats belong to tzeentch
analog agate
Carry much for these guys with the blaze trauma?
near drift
Pro tip: don't play columnus gunker and dump all your ammo into the first few hordes then die several times because you can't survive in melee for 5 seconds
just quickplay things
cold elm
normal quickplay damnation is harder than auric damnation solely because the teammates in normal damn are clueless
analog agate
Mine was from auric
plucky flax
Pro tip: don't play columnus gunker and dump all your ammo into the first few ho...
Instructions uncleared. I died.
Out of ammo got me.
cold ivy
do most gun psykers run assail or smite? cuz assail shreds everything not in carapace, i feel like that alone is enough to carry you for horde clear
static needle
do most gun psykers run assail or smite? cuz assail shreds everything not in car...
assail always
cold ivy
ah ok cool
cold elm
do most gun psykers run assail or smite? cuz assail shreds everything not in car...
i run smite because it has better croud control
static needle
its worth it cause it can stagger and kill mixed hordes decently and helps you keep ammo consumption down by 50%
static needle
i run smite because it has better croud control
smite can be argued if youre running revolver tbh