psyker-class

[sage plaza]

...holy fuck

[sage plaza]

SO glad I actively keep Hadron well-fed with new blessings!!

[feral verge]

the damage for that g ame was low for me too, on that map

i usually get 1 million

[feral verge]

i'd take specialsit off and put either maniac or flak

also, you may already know, but cloud radius is an important stat. you want it to be as high as possible, like burn

[sage plaza]

True, but I can't change that.

[feral verge]

lol yes you can

look at the icon next to it. it's a gear, not a lock

if it has a gear next to it, that means it can be swapped at hadron

[sage plaza]

I meant Cloud Radius.

[feral verge]

oh

you can continue to roll for purga staves, if you decide you really like it

[sage plaza]

Nah, not worth rerolling. This is already pretty awesome as is.

I can compensate cloud radius by simply sweeping the reticle.

(if I understand the stat correctly)

[feral verge]

that doesnt compensate it

it's the range of the soulblaze cloud

the only way to compensate is to just get closer

[sage plaza]

...So it should be range, not radius.

Anyhow, another question: Smite's Enfeeble modifier. Does it work on both L and RMB zaps?

[bleak tulip]

should, but you shouldn't use the left mouse one basically ever

[hearty oak]

radius is how far it goes
I love devs that make vague descriptions.

[bleak tulip]

well it is a radius looking down on you, staring with the staff

[hearty oak]

You aren't funny

[bleak tulip]

(it's probably actually the radius of the individual puffs, which is how flamers work mechanically but my answer is funnier)

you basically shoot a bunch of aoes per second, and that stat affects their radius

[sage plaza]

Actually it's both

[bleak tulip]

aiui

[sage plaza]

literally looking at it rn

"range and size of the flame"

Another question: are each of the staves on different blessing pools?

[eager mantle]

Yes

[sage plaza]

Ok, ty

[ornate hamlet]

what should I replace slaughterer with?

[bleak tulip]

uncanny probs?

also might wanna flak to maniac

[plucky flax]

Uncanny on deimos is a must.

[rocky raven]

^

[plucky flax]

2nd blessing is your choice (I like deflector)

[ornate hamlet]

I've been having a lot of luck with riposte

[rocky raven]

uncanny/executor is actually busted for diemos specials

[plucky flax]

Yeah then go uncanny riposte

[ornate hamlet]

thanks much :y

[feral verge]

uncanny executor is the way

[ornate hamlet]

worth reblessing as uncanny exceutor?

[feral verge]

sure, but not ideal perks

[ornate hamlet]

i know...

[feral verge]

you want maniac

[ornate hamlet]

but one's gotta go

i do run high peril most of the time though when i have my sword out

[ornate hamlet]

that'd be nice to have but fatshark insists on RNG weapons

and only allowing two changes

[feral verge]

unforunately force sword is a pain to roll for

because it has a large blessing pool

i remember it took me atleast 2 months to get unstable power 4

[rocky raven]

ya, at least all 3 share blessings

[feral verge]

back before they made t4 blessings easier to get

[rocky raven]

easier to hunt for perks on force drops and reroll stored blassings from trash/melk due to pool size

[rocky raven]

its power weighted now i believe each consecrate right?

[feral verge]

no one knows for sure

[rocky raven]

im almost positive based on how ive been gaming the rolls lol

[feral verge]

alls i know, it APPEARS that the longer you go without consecrating, the more likely it is you will roll a t4 blessing when you do eventually consecrate something. probably placebo, but something i have noticed

[rocky raven]

pre-refining/reconsecrating at blue on trash rolls to minmax rating has yielded waay better results in leg T4 hunting

[rocky raven]

hmm ive not seen that behavior

[feral verge]

i've had several instances where i just save plasteel for awhile

for several days or weeks

[ornate hamlet]

interesting

[feral verge]

then im like hmm i will try to roll for las pistol

and then i get a godroll within idk 5 rolls

it's happened multiple ti mes to me

[rocky raven]

i'll keep note at watch for that

[feral verge]

most notably when i made a vet (after maining psyker and zealot for months and months)

i got a god roll bolter and psword after about 5 rolls each

[rocky raven]

i can all but confirm the consecrate table hits are weighted on current rating at least

so game theory applies for that

[feral verge]

yes, this appears to be the case

when i was blessing f arming, i would sell anything under 350

and consecrate every 350+

[lunar hollow]

they do. low level characters with 200-ish rated gear consistently get t1-2 blessings

im fairly certain blessing rarity is tied to the base rating

[feral verge]

this is the psword and bolter i got

within 2-5 rolls

on a fresh level 30 vet

[rocky raven]

you can game it further, if that 350+ only rolls a t2/3 perk or blessing and its just farm fodder, refine to T4 on both with anything to boost rating before going purp/orange

[fluid aspen]

Anyone got a shriek soulfire build for me? I've been running the Scrier variant but I'd love to try this one too

[rocky raven]

with what gear?

[fluid aspen]

I've been using a Purg staff and dueling sword but I'm up for anything really. Is fire shriek that good that you just run it with other gear?

[ornate hamlet]

With full stacks you can shout at a horde and turn around

It's guaranteed to kill every poxwalker within its area

[rocky raven]

Also allows uninterrupted smite CC refresh if peril with stacks added

Shriek stacks also are separate from purg so can add both together where purge caps

[fluid aspen]

Warp Siphon or Empowered Psionics?

Actually nevermind

[sage plaza]

Ok just had my first Purgatus run, my thoughts:
||I CAN SWALLOW A BOTTLE OF ALCOHOL IMMATERIUM AND I FEEL LIKE GODZILLA||
But fr, it's got a much shorter range than I'm used to. Gotta rely on teammates more to kill ranged enemies. Also I feel really vulnerable not being able to knock over ogryns.
I also love that the LMB tap is basically a "We are not the rejects you're looking for" that actually works (for like a second) lmao

[fluid aspen]

I really want to play Purg more but the lack of range just isn't for me. And BB just doesn't make up for it with how slow it charges

[eager mantle]

I prefer shriek because I want more fire and use EP because I use BB with it and Im not using BB w/o EP

I like it, I feel BB is enough range for me

[sage plaza]

BB?

[jolly raptor]

lemings

are you back

[eager mantle]

brain burst

[sage plaza]

Brainburst, nvm

[eager mantle]

brain rupture

[gilded wind]

best staff?

[eager mantle]

ball twist

[sage plaza]

lmao

[plucky flax]

Imagine calling it BB in 2024.

[sage plaza]

The brainstem torsion wizard

[bleak tulip]

brain blast

[fluid aspen]

I've been using Warp Siphon for the buffs per stacks

[plucky flax]

Big boobs what

[sage plaza]

Actually if you want better BB performance, Empowered Psionics is really good.

[jolly raptor]

weren't u struggling to use that 1 skill

[fluid aspen]

Well yeah of course, but I also want Purg performance

[eager mantle]

just set things on fire. it just works

[sage plaza]

The left side of the psyker tree gives plenty of Peril resistance, and a decent Purg staff will have low Peril build.

[fluid aspen]

I'm talking more about Empyrean Empowerment

[sage plaza]

?

[fluid aspen]

24% extra damage from 6 stacks

[bleak tulip]

the thing that makes warp charges good

[sage plaza]

OH

[hearty oak]

Ball buster

[plucky flax]

Step on my b daddy.

[fluid aspen]

Where as EP only empowers the BB/BR

[sage plaza]

Yeah... I can understand the difficulty of the choice there...

[bleak tulip]

EP is basically never as good imo

unless youre dramatically overusing your blitz

[sage plaza]

BB is ideal for EP, imo

[fluid aspen]

Just wish I didn't lose all my stacks on using my ability

[long wharf]

if you want to try to go Assail as main weapon, you basically need EP

[sage plaza]

Assail and Smite gets used too much for the Peril economics to work out

[fluid aspen]

Or at least I had a choice

[bleak tulip]

yeh but BB is generally still too slow, and EP doesnt fix that, it just makes me wanna tear my eyes out a little less when using BB

and youre missing a buncha damage for the privilege of that

you get the stacks back pretty fast

[olive ember]

EP is just kinda boring

[sage plaza]

idk, EP'd BB charges pretty fast.
Though I'm only ever using it on the fancier enemies or annnoying ones far away.

[olive ember]

It’s just a “your blitz is stat boosted now” and basically zero interaction past that

[fluid aspen]

I'm looking for something that can do a bit better on the Twins fight at the moment, the Scrier Purg build I've been using is alright but managing Scrier is a pain

[olive ember]

There’s like two lines of thought for twins for psyker iirc

[sage plaza]

I'm currently rolling for Plasmaguns for that on my Vet, but that's for another channel.

[olive ember]

One way is to be smite bubble psyker

[fluid aspen]

But not taking shield for twins feels like a meme

[olive ember]

The other way is to run Scriers ds psyker

[sage plaza]

Plz explain this, that sounds close to my current build.

[olive ember]

It’s just smite to CC all the elites that show up which buys valuable breathing room

And bubble is utility

You could also swap bubble for shriek for more horde clear and better venting

[sage plaza]

[olive ember]

Scriers gaze ds is just max damage psyker where you are trying to optimize for boss damage

[cold elm]

keep or trash?

[fluid aspen]

What staff would you take for the smite bubble psyker?

[olive ember]

It’s decent. Personally would like flak on one of the perks but it will work unless you get something better

[olive ember]

Doesn’t rly matter

[cold elm]

something with range

[blissful bluff]

I have yet to find a gun build for psyker that’s good for auric damnation. They need to do something for psyker. Tired of using staves.

[cold elm]

otherwise you are defenceless against snipers

[olive ember]

Most staffs can just lmb spam

[fluid aspen]

Sticking to Voidstrike then

[sage plaza]

My default is a Trauma Staff

[olive ember]

For orthus I’d suggest trauma over void but eh

[sage plaza]

holy shit, I could fight the twins as my current Psyker!!

[olive ember]

I mean the build will only get you so far

[cold elm]

i still have yet to beat hard damn twins

[olive ember]

It’s actually learning the fight and the chaos of it

Also getting lucky with teammates

[sage plaza]

True, yeah.

[olive ember]

If you get teammates that are dead by first or 2nd transition that’s just a doomed run

[long wharf]

it going to suck hearing this, but bringing a psyker to the twins fight is actively hurting your team

[sage plaza]

Ahh, ok.

OH RIGHT

[long wharf]

the most successful hard mode twins fight teams don't use psykers

[olive ember]

Eh twins isn’t hard enough that you need to super optimize

[sage plaza]

Just remembered what a previous teammate had said about the current Twins meta.

[long wharf]

it's combinations of ogryns and either a zealot, vet, or both

[olive ember]

If you wanted to super optimize it would be some stupid BS like 3 ogryns and a vet

[long wharf]

3 ogryns and a zealot

[cold elm]

so ive seen

[long wharf]

that's how my group did it

[olive ember]

I did it with one of each the first time and the other three Idr

[cold elm]

problem is i main psyker so i cant really change off the class without doing a ton of grinding

[sage plaza]

right, got stuff to do, later!

[long wharf]

it's not impossible

just a lot harder

[fluid aspen]

I don't need to be the most successful, I just want to do the fight and I don't want to bother leveling something else just for a single fight

[olive ember]

Doing it with a psyker, even two is fine

It’s just a lot easier with ogryns cuz of how overtuned they are

[cold elm]

i feel im forced to just smite spam with psyker to do anything helpful

[long wharf]

HM twins is basically a raid boss fight

[olive ember]

That fight strips your toughness quick and it’s a dps race

[long wharf]

it has phases and mechanics that have to be specifically accounted for

[plucky flax]

Me carrying people at twins on psyker

[olive ember]

I mean that depends on the damage tbh

If you have a good comp you can force transitions quickly and almost nullify the mechanics

[long wharf]

your best bet with a psyker will be trauma with rending shockwave

[cold elm]

looks like i need a trauma staff then

[plucky flax]

Could work I guess. I did it more than once on blaze trauma though.

And a few times as laspistol psyker too.

[long wharf]

that can work too

the trauma staff hitting everything in its aoe radius is key

it's great CC, and with blazing spirit you're putting everything on fire

[olive ember]

Rending trauma is probably better for orthus specifically due to the bosses being carapace and it spawning a bunch of armoured rnekies

[long wharf]

with rending shockwave, you're stripping armor

[olive ember]

Dunno for sure tho cuz I never tested it

Psyker can work tho it’s not like you are actively trolling running psyker into hard twins

You just gotta work, hard, and for less results than some other classes

Like a vet will bring value to the team literally just by existing because he can bring field improv which means better health kits and ammo crates

[long wharf]

having a single zealot is a huge difference in that fight

zealot has hands-down best bosskill via hammer

[fluid aspen]

Decided to try making a rending trauma, literally first one that had any decent rolls and I bothered to upgrade

[hearty oak]

Having 4 ogryns is a huge difference in that fight as well

[plucky flax]

2 psykers 1 vet 1 ogryn lul

[olive ember]

I prefer chaxe over hammer for that fight tbh

[long wharf]

and the relic gives you immediate breathing room/recovery time

[plucky flax]

Don't mind me doing more damage than the rest combined.

[olive ember]

Chaxe does more to shields than hammer imo

[hearty oak]

Was it sedition though?

[plucky flax]

It was! Sedition twins. :3

[fluid aspen]

What do I want alongside rending on the trauma?

[long wharf]

chainaxe can't do as much health damage in a single hit as the thammer can, though

not by a large margin

[olive ember]

I think relic is over rated honestly

[hearty oak]

Those numbers should be bigger then

[long wharf]

in that fight, it really really isn't

[olive ember]

That role is better covered by a shout vet

[plucky flax]

Aaaaaaaaaa

[olive ember]

Imo chastise let’s you engage and dps the boss more often

Which helps get shields down and transition faster and cleaner

[long wharf]

so, my group went 3 ogryns 1 zealot

1 gungryn for taking down shields, 1 bullgryn for handling the heavy adds, 1 chargegryn for ensuring easy paths between safe zones

zealot had thammer and relic

gungryn easily strips boss shields

once boss is vulnerable, zealot steps in and hammers

the group comp works extremely well

as all annoying aspects of the fight are immediately countered

that said, it still took us several hours of trying to get it right

[olive ember]

Imo best comp is probably 2 ogryns 1 vet 1 zealot

[cold elm]

which boss is better to kill first btw\

melee or shooter

[long wharf]

if you can reliably clear a path between safe zones, you don't need a dedicated chargegryn

[hearty oak]

Or 2 ogs 2 zealots

[long wharf]

we did it just because it guaranteed the ability to make that path

[olive ember]

Nah having a vet will really smooth things along

[hearty oak]

just don't go down

[olive ember]

Because vet can bring shout, plasma, and field improv in one super concise build, this frees zealot up from relic duty imo to do chastise or stealth damage

And then two ogryns one for clearing the path and one for boss damage/shield strip

Tho zealot also does amazing shield strip with chain weapons

I’m talking bringing Rodin’s shield down from full in one special heavy and one normal heavy

[long wharf]

yeah, chain weapons are across the board great for stripping shields

you can definitely approach the boss fight from different angles, it's just that you have to have specific bases covered

having a group where everyone is trying to do everything just leads to failure

[olive ember]

I’d like to see the damage of thammer because imo a chaxe is better than a thammer in that fight because A) chain weapons properties against shields and B) apparently the damage for thammer is capped in that fight

I don’t have a thrust 4 hammer tho so can’t test it myself

[long wharf]

how is the thammer damage capped?

[olive ember]

This is just something I heard right when the twins came out but I’m psure each twin has hp thresholds used for transition that you can’t go past

Lemme double check actually maybe I’m wrong

@tall roost help is the thammer damage capped against twins or am I talking out of my ass

@lunar hollow

Fuck my life

Wrong guy lmao

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

uhhh

all damage should be capped

twins aren't unyielding so they dont get the insane boss damage multipler thammer is known for

so something like the new chaxe is actually better for this

[olive ember]

Thx thx

[long wharf]

interesting

[static needle]

Is the other autoguns besides colomnus V usable for gunpsyker?

[rocky raven]

Agri is, graia nah

[vestal fulcrum]

Any weapon is usable, that's not a very useful metric

But Agripinaa IAG is an OK alternative to Columnus

[static needle]

So this is worse than agri for gunpsyker?

[rocky raven]

bad rolls for a graia except unyielding

[static needle]

i mean suppose you compare a god roll graia with a god rolled agri, are they farely evenly matched?

[spice veldt]

they have the same DPS and all yeah

the only difference is pretty much breakpoints

[olive ember]

Are we talking about brauto or iag or hh

[rocky raven]

agri feels better w/ the extra weakpoint and recoil reset imo

[rocky raven]

iag

agri with good stab roll also allows for some fun with punishing + sustained salvo almost insta resetting

[spice veldt]

graia does have the 3-shot crit string

[static needle]

what 3 shot crit string?

[spice veldt]

when a crit rolls, 3 shots will crit

[olive ember]

When you crit while full auto the next 3 shots crit

[spice veldt]

agri has a 2-shot crit string

and columnus has a 4-shot crit string

[rocky raven]

^

[olive ember]

Question I have do you roll crits during those shots for other crit strings

[spice veldt]

not as far as I can tell

[static needle]

what are the BiS blessings for graia?

[spice veldt]

otherwise you'd be able to keep a long ass string

[olive ember]

So basically you roll for a crit every shot you don’t and when you do crit it lasts 4 shots before you roll again?

Yeah makes sense

[spice veldt]

ye

[static needle]

Dumdum and deathspitter?

[rocky raven]

no crit is rolled on fire not contact- just sets the folowup to 100% assuming you keep holding trigger

[rocky raven]

dum/death or raking even, but that roll prob aint worth melkbucks

[static needle]

i got it anyway. Dumdum is most important one and that i can change to. Speedloader isnt terrible either, but not optimal

[rocky raven]

swap dum for speedload, keep salvo

with the stab roll, those salvo boosts will stack with the crit chain if you can click heads

[static needle]

whats stab roll?

[rocky raven]

stability

[static needle]

ah

[rocky raven]

should have near no recoil on the graia with that, very minimal

[peak grotto]

The Emperor has blessed me this day

Time to pop it up once and then burn them all

[opaque tendon]

i'm workshopping a scrier's gaze build, but it just feels like worse zealot lmao

also -- am i tripping or are warp charges -not- reducing scrier's gaze cooldown?

[ionic needle]

that's it, never touching malice again

[opaque tendon]

it isn't. 23s cd with or without max warp charges. and testing it with bubble/shriek the charges work appropriately

[vernal frost]

yup

[opaque tendon]

[vernal frost]

cause it doesn't go on cd when you use it

[opaque tendon]

you think it'd still account for it tho lmao. i'm not seeing the warp charge reduction take place at all, even after the effect ends

[vernal frost]

fatshark being fatshark

[opaque tendon]

well there goes that build idea

i guess ill post a bug reporttttttt

[bleak tulip]

new drip possible

[digital narwhal]

Just run Empowered Psionics for Scrier's Psyker tbh

[peak grotto]

The emperor has ordained me a flame staff user. What do I even do to this marvel?

[feral verge]

put warp nexus 4, and change unyielding damage to fl ak damage

[ionic needle]

not flak, more crit

[feral verge]

crit not necessary

with warp nexus

trust me

[ionic needle]

can never have enough crit on purgatus

[feral verge]

without crit

crit is not bad, b ut straight damage is better

[peak grotto]

I do like crit because it triggers Empathic Evasion

Being immune to ranged attacks while I'm burning is very nice

[feral verge]

yes warp nexus provides enough crit for that

[peak grotto]

I don't even have t4 Warp Nexus

[rocky raven]

purg tics so rapidly they you'll hit them all the time without the perk

[bleak tulip]

tier 3 nexus is fine too if you dont have 4 yet

its not a massive difference

[rocky raven]

ya not too different

[peak grotto]

I'll swap Unyielding to Flak and it'll be plenty good

[rocky raven]

its mroe about getting comfy at higher peril and dancing the headpops

[ionic needle]

dancing the headpops?

[rocky raven]

riding the warp baby

[peak grotto]

I'm plenty comfy at high peril

[rocky raven]

you gucci then

[peak grotto]

Between vent and warp charges, I can just burn indefinitely so long as I have enough enemies

[rocky raven]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[peak grotto]

Zealots cryin rn

Because my flamethrower has infinite ammo and theirs doesn't

[tough cipher]

Still relatively new when it comes to doing auric level missions, completed like 5 or so by now, pretty much solely by playing smite with dueling sword & voidstrike staff.

Saw some other interesting builds run around when I was pugging those, was wondering if anyone would be nice enough to share a Trauma staff build? would like to try BB or Assail but not sure what to run talent wise / go for on perks & melee choice? Assume I should go Rending + Warp Nexus on the trauma tho?

[bold maple]

yeah I tried zealot flamer it's a bit more range and the color is nice

but psyker staff is better

[rocky raven]

rend/nexus yep, otw do blazing spirit/nexus for burn mix horde mgmt build

[cosmic sigil]

But they have chastise.

Flamer without chastise is not a thing

[tough cipher]

Got it, will see what role I can get and play around with it; Any recommendations for perks & talents?

[worthy briar]

is there a build that will 1 shot things in damnaton?

[feral verge]

Deimos force sword

And dueling sword mk4

[worthy briar]

ranged?

[feral verge]

You want these blessings/perks

Ranged? Void strike with warp nexus and surge blessings

[worthy briar]

thank you

[feral verge]

You're welcome

[worthy briar]

what is the modifyer order for the sword and VS staff that i should go for?

[rocky raven]

?

modifier?

[worthy briar]

like what stats should be the highest for example damage, finesse, first target and then a stat with a lower %

[feral verge]

You want all of them high

Except warp resist

That can be low

[rocky raven]

you need em all on both of those, no real dump stat

[feral verge]

Mobility can be lower too

[rocky raven]

you want this maxed for sure on staff masive difference

[worthy briar]

what dose warp resist do?

[feral verge]

But warp resistance is the 'dump stat'

The more warp resist, the less peril you generate using warp powers

[rocky raven]

WR on deimos is for special/shield block

[feral verge]

Like using the special charge attack in force swords or casting with staves

[worthy briar]

im asking because the game throws terms at you like rending and all that

[spice veldt]

warp res doesn't affect blocking

[rocky raven]

staffs its a potential difference of 50% peril gen per cast

[rocky raven]

it does factor in with kinetic deflection talent tho

[feral verge]

First time hearing that

I'm dubious

[lunar hollow]

i think this is true? i believe the atheneum remarks on peril resist from talent nodes changing it

maybe

i could be wrong and mixing up sources

[spice veldt]

peril res as from talents does

but not warp res as a stat modifier on force swords

[lunar hollow]

huh

weird

[worthy briar]

whats the attack combo for single target and croud control

[feral verge]

Horde is just light spam

[rocky raven]

single target is special heavy

(with stacks ideally)

[feral verge]

Single target is light attack, heavy attack, block cancel, light attack heavy attack

(they are the stab attacks)

[lunar hollow]

can't u do push -> h2 on deimos

[spice veldt]

ye pushes/push-attack chains into h2

[worthy briar]

I was trying to figure that one out lol

[lunar hollow]

does the push attack peril cost get influenced by warp res

[spice veldt]

hmm

[feral verge]

I think it's always like 5% peril

[lunar hollow]

my gut feeling is no

[feral verge]

I could be wrong

[rocky raven]

i believe only stam but will confirm 1 sec

[lunar hollow]

not the push

the push attack

[spice veldt]

i made the mistake of opening my scoreboard menu and thus my game crashed

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

mine sent me back to operative selection

[worthy briar]

stacks of what? from a perk?

[feral verge]

Delete some scoreboards @spice veldt

You have too many

[lunar hollow]

don't

[spice veldt]

i'd just do l1 -> h2 against crushers instead of special-heavying

[feral verge]

This is what I do

[spice veldt]

damnit i uninstalled trueperil

[feral verge]

I really only use special light on isolated ragers sometimes, or on trash mobs to proc executor uncanny

[lunar hollow]

shouldn't perilgauge work

is the trueperil mod still up on nexus

[spice veldt]

yeah it is

[rocky raven]

push atk at max warpres is 4, lowend is 6 it seems

[spice veldt]

i uninstalled it cuz the modmaker said that it was apparently redundant but it seems that the decimal option is missing

[lunar hollow]

damn

trueperil has yet to fail me

so i havent bothered to update

[spice veldt]

for me, it's always 4% peril to PA

regardless of the warp res of the FS i'm using

[lunar hollow]

hm

[spice veldt]

tested on an 80% and 43% warp res FS

[solemn nimbus]

How does the purge staff work? ive asked good players and they say its really strong but idk how to make it do anything

[rocky raven]

huh wth a 10% one i pulled from shop quick showed 6

i gotta reinstall trueperil too now it seems

[feral verge]

It is very strong

You need to use the fire shrikes ability

Creeping flames

[lunar hollow]

yeah it's a flat 4% for me

[feral verge]

Proof

[lunar hollow]

with trueperil

[rocky raven]

i trust trueperil more than default hud lol ty. already reinstalling XD

[lunar hollow]

at both 33% and 76% warp res

[feral verge]

Set hordes/groups on fire, then ult fire shriek on them to delete them

[rocky raven]

^

[feral verge]

Don't use the staff on isolated targets. Don't be afraid to swap to melee to finish enemies off

Use the staff lmb to stagger enemies

The flame gust attack

Has very high stagger

You can stun lock ragers and trappers with it

[solemn nimbus]

what keystone do you run?

[feral verge]

Warp siphon

[solemn nimbus]

i feel like disrupt would be good for getting stacks on but i dont think its practical at all

[feral verge]

No

Disrupt would be a horrible choice

Disrupt is for precision weapons like guns

[solemn nimbus]

and i think fire shriek might be the part of this i was missing?

[feral verge]

I'll post my build

i've spent many hours with it

ive spent alot of time with purga since before the big class overhaul

[bleak tulip]

TIL at the ending of archivum sicorax that one pipe below the decypher has a hole you can actually fall into

hundreds of hours and Ive never seen it, now Ive see three people fall into it

in one match

[lunar hollow]

had a duo run end when that map first came out

cuz me and the other dude both fell into it lmfao

[bleak tulip]

oof owie mlao

[lunar hollow]

it will legit slide you off if you get slightly too far to the side

which is so annoying

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[feral verge]

@solemn nimbus

i have 3x toughness curios

2 have sniper resist, 1 gunner resist

[lunar hollow]

if you had hp you wouldnt be so mad when i detonate a burster

[feral verge]

not mad

just critically disappointed

[lunar hollow]

😦

[feral verge]

because i expected better from you

[lunar hollow]

tbh i dont know why i shot that burster

it just kinda

happened

i was spamming the revolver

[feral verge]

you were supposed to be better than the pub players

[lunar hollow]

did u see how much damage i did with that shitty revolver

[feral verge]

Mag dumps into 7 ragers

Kills 1

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

if i can open the scoreboard w/o crashing my game

i'll show you how many fkin ammo packs i grabbed

[solemn nimbus]

why the damage aura over cdr?

just a perosnal choice or does the staff need it

[feral verge]

Cdr is already insane

[bleak tulip]

pub moment

[lunar hollow]

@feral verge

COWBOY

[feral verge]

When you have 6 stacks of warp battery, then ult, the warp battery reduces your cool down by a lot @solemn nimbus

[onyx hornet]

guys I'm trying to pick between the artesian eight gamma outfit or the lord calentis outfit, which one is better?

[feral verge]

Then there's a feat, I don't remember what it's called, that reduces cdr by 5% for every elite killed

I want more damage, not more cdr

Like I said, I almost always have ult up anyway

[solemn nimbus]

Gotcha

[bleak tulip]

do you wanna look like a toilet bowl?

[feral verge]

If you are decent at the game, you will almost always top the scoreboard with that build

[rocky raven]

psykinetics aura

[potent zenith]

any recommendations?

cara or flak?

[feral verge]

Rip warp nexus off

[bleak tulip]

flak

SB doesnt do shit against cara anyway

[feral verge]

You want burn to be 76% or higher

[onyx hornet]

the toilet bowl kinda ate

but still which one

[rocky raven]

I'd say theres a case in premades depending on comp to give the 10% to your bois for CD depending on comp

**5% elite to perma fuel them too

[potent zenith]

what would i replace it with?

[feral verge]

Nah, meant destroy the staff

For warp nexus

[potent zenith]

ah

[feral verge]

To make a better one

[potent zenith]

gotcha

[feral verge]

Ideal staff

[bleak tulip]

we need this as a sticker

[feral verge]

Also @solemn nimbus you want to play at higher peril

[potent zenith]

the omnisiah will never grant me that, lol

[feral verge]

You want to float around 60-90% peril

[rocky raven]

@feral verge whats the BP for burn apply max stacks again, 76%?

[feral verge]

Try to never go below 60% peril

Yes 76% is the break point for the burn stat

[rocky raven]

tht so didnt have it in my notes perf

[feral verge]

Also, use venting fire shriek at around 83% peril for max damage

[rocky raven]

**83 true peril lol

[hearty oak]

>Ideal
53% quell speed

Shit can it

Cant save it

[vast rain]

is this a unique experience I am having of hating disrupt destiny?

like I feel like my entire experience is trying my damndest to hold onto my stacks

[rocky raven]

playing like that is overall worse dps tbh

[vast rain]

yeah that is my feeling

just go warp siphon and call it a day

[proper osprey]

Bb psyker are a rare breed I feel like I’m the only one

[tawny pebble]

absolute noob question - does assail's horde clear have synergy with surge staff?

[tawny pebble]

i have grown fonder of it lately

[proper osprey]

Use assail for horde or unarmored and surge for the other elites and specialist

[tawny pebble]

roger roger

[proper osprey]

Best build for psyker in my opinion

[tawny pebble]

i am just trying to diversify a bit, been leaning too much on purg and trauma

both of which i run BB lol

honestly i find that smite is rarer than BB

or at the very least the smite psykers i play with use it so little i could be forgiven for not knowing they ran it at all

[proper osprey]

I see too many smite/shield

[proper osprey]

Best staffs for bb

[tawny pebble]

i also have never run assail tbf

not touched it once

[proper osprey]

I hate seeing smite and purge or bb and surge

[tawny pebble]

you mean people doubling up on obvious same-application tools?

[proper osprey]

Yeah

[tawny pebble]

even i know better than that lol

[proper osprey]

Most siblings are stupid!

[rocky raven]

i hate seeing people waste talent points on kinetic flayer BB

[tawny pebble]

i will admit until a couple weeks ago that was me

purgatus kinetic flayer was admittedly funni but extremely inefficient and unpredictable

[proper osprey]

The one that makes you charge faster?

[tawny pebble]

random BB 10% chance on any hit once per 15s

[proper osprey]

Ahhh

[proper osprey]

I run that

[rocky raven]

everything about it is bad

[proper osprey]

Couldn’t find anything else to put it into

[rocky raven]

nonsense!

[proper osprey]

And it’s decent with purg

[tawny pebble]

i don't like running the timer in my head and pulling my hits until i hope maybe my staff will break the mauler's head open

my mental bandwidth is just not to that level lol

[proper osprey]

Surprisingly the staff dose good damage against them

[rocky raven]

psyker has too many useful perks noway you dont have one more useful for the point

[tawny pebble]

oh absolutely, i love purg agianst the men who cave my skull in

but i discovered that after i played around and reallocated from KF

and i didn't have to crutch on blowing them up without waiting for a BB charge

[proper osprey]

My bb build

[tawny pebble]

do you find illisi more useful than deimos with purg? or just personal preference?

[proper osprey]

I used to live and die by the deimos but I’m illisi

Illisi you can spam and have constant crit with bloodthirsty

Constant crit makes blazing spirit proc

Almost like a power sword

Of course I still want one with deflector

[rocky raven]

mate... you have both vent shriek perks that make it good missing

[proper osprey]

Still haven’t gotten it

[proper osprey]

I need the damage one?

[rocky raven]

on your talent tree

becalming/creeping

[proper osprey]

Yeah

[rocky raven]

NOT the dmg one

[proper osprey]

That’s what I have

I have creeping

[rocky raven]

uhh...

from your clip

[proper osprey]

Wait never mind

I just looked again that’s my old one from before

I updated it I have creeping on it now

My fault

[rocky raven]

lol

staff surge/nexus?

[proper osprey]

Yup

Wait with bb?

[rocky raven]

void***

im tired lol

referring to blessings

[proper osprey]

I run purg with fury and nexus

[rocky raven]

gotcha had void in clip

[proper osprey]

It’s the skin

[rocky raven]

didnt hover the box couldnt tell

in that case, if running purg you should be going down warp battery not EP

for the rotation with shriek

[proper osprey]

I tried warp battery but I hate it I prefer ep because I mainly use my staff and always have 3 stacks in case of special spam

My warp batter build

Need to get the crits give me toughness

And ep gives me more bb dps

[tawny pebble]

in your opinions is crossing over from assail to seer's presence worth it? i remember seeing some consensus a month ago that mind in motion is not good lol

[solemn nimbus]

@feral verge i gave it a shot and im really not feeling it. honestly cant figure out how people make this staff work

[tawny pebble]

which one?

[solemn nimbus]

the fire one

[tawny pebble]

ah, purgatus

yeah, it takes a lot of getting used to compared to the others that have a regular ranged M1

[solemn nimbus]

in fairness my staff is very mid but i dont know how id be jumping from lowest to top damage with slight stat increases

https://i.imgur.com/JsB1PW7.png

[tawny pebble]

as far as i'm aware it's just about abusing the stacks of burn while using the M1's immense stagger to keep everything but crushers/bulwarks at bay

increase ranged critical strike chance is, i believe, what you'd want on any replacement staff instead of one of your +damage

my purg staff is also fairly mid so i take advantage more of the stagger than the damage, but my team gladly takes advantage of the opening at least

[solemn nimbus]

even that feels really bad

at that point i feel like id be better off doing some cringe realasianrobot type smite cringe

[harsh urchin]

crit is pretty pointless

[tawny pebble]

i'm unfamiliar with smite cringe

[harsh urchin]

because you already have tons of crit from multiple sources

you'll get much more out of a 2nd 25%

[rocky raven]

use the peril talent on warp batt instead of toughness on elites; swap warp expent for Mettle

[harsh urchin]

your improvements would mainly be in stats

hitting 76+ burn gives you a breakpoint for max stacks

and getting as close as possible to 80 cloud will give you more range

[solemn nimbus]

its the build where you just spam smite in every scenerio and make ur team work harder

im ngl

[tawny pebble]

oh that's awful

[solemn nimbus]

its pretty but its kinda troll

kinda super troll

i kinda wanna do it lmao

[half iron]

use charged smite on the poxwalker horde to farm a “wow you are killing a lot” line

[tawny pebble]

i guess i do need to refine my builds

[solemn nimbus]

based

[tawny pebble]

my charged smite never kills before the team starts mowing them down lol

[solemn nimbus]

smite never kills

[sly dawn]

so true

[junior linden]

3/4 aint fuckin bad thanks hadron

[ornate hamlet]

Today I played with a psyker who would alternate between smite and revolver bodyshots

[half iron]

let them cook

[ornate hamlet]

I think the dude aimed so low that half of the kills were castrations

[tawny pebble]

lmao

[junior linden]

LOL

[restive slate]

Shock them to triggwr boners then shoot them off

[tawny pebble]

genius

[ornate hamlet]

Creates a 200% bigger target

[worthy relic]

yuck

[solemn nimbus]

i made a new fire staff that was damn near perfect

did not serve me well at all lmao

i think im just gonna keep running columnus psyker until they fix assail

[worthy relic]

assail rips asssholes

its strong as fuck

[solemn nimbus]

maybe you know something i dont

but that shit is dookie

[silk vigil]

It used to be absolutely busted but now it’s just good.

[ionic frost]

Don't use Assail on Crushers and Maulers. It destroys everything else.

And you need to use weapons other than assail since the nerf. Pre-nerf you could use it as your main weapon.

[silk vigil]

That’s when you pull out your trusty stub revolver.

[ionic frost]

By fix Assail, are you assuming it's going to be buffed?

[ionic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-arrow-marvel-guardiansofthegalaxy2-ravagers-gif-14617100

^ Assail.

[fallow falcon]

Deathspitter or Fire Frenzy?

[spice veldt]

assail's still fine since its main strength of having a small active time cost is still there

just use another weapon while it regenerates

it got milquetoast nerfs to its damage and cooldown at most

still has 10 max shards to burn through

[ionic frost]

You also have to know what some other people don't: You have to actually aim Assail. It's not fire and forget.

EP Assail hits 6 targets. =)

[spice veldt]

the pro strat of waving your mouse side-to-side wildly

that's optimal assail (and purg) gaming

[ionic frost]

It's fun to use in the Psykhanium on the ragers/specials...complete mayhem.

10 Ragers charging you in a Damnation game? Assail will make them all dead.

It was so busted when it had Hand-Cannon's rending on crit...

[bleak tulip]

youre gonna make arco post the video again

[spice veldt]

don't tempt me

[elfin roost]

I think of all the classes, Psyker is my favorite

[bleak tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[elfin roost]

Kinda wanna learn better how to use it though, what weapons are important?

[bleak tulip]

duel 4, deimos, illisi, any staff

all solid

theres more melee options but whocares everyone gets those

[elfin roost]

People do like the shredder pistol from what I've heard

[ionic frost]

Used to,,,

It got nerfed pretty hard.

[elfin roost]

Only with specific perks like the one that pops heads ig

Yeah this is depressing

[ionic frost]

Columnus Mk V is new shredder

[elfin roost]

Odamn

Just one roll and I got this bad boy

[harsh urchin]

kinda bad

[ionic frost]

could last u until u get a better one

[harsh urchin]

low finesse and pen

[elfin roost]

This is sad

[harsh urchin]

you want high dmg, finesse and pen

if possible

[elfin roost]

Hows that

[harsh urchin]

good enough yeah

[elfin roost]

[ionic frost]

High pen isn't necessary with Uncanny...though it can help with your first few hits.

[elfin roost]

That thing

Oh and Im using the Purgatus, thats still the better one with the Mk IV right?

[ionic frost]

My 2nd Psyker has this:

[ionic frost]

Up to you really...Deflector force sword can be nice if you get caught with your pants down with ppl shooting u.

[rocky raven]

dodge distance/sprint boost scales linear, real wide variance for distance. high as possible in mobility is good

[elfin roost]

Thats good to know

Talent trees, forgot to ask about those since thats the biggest change from the last time I played

[rocky raven]

high pen is really good with uncanny since they changed rending; the over100% converts to a dmg mult

[ionic frost]

120% rending = 5% damage boost over 100% rending.

[harsh urchin]

thats a lot to be fair lol

[ionic frost]

I don't think penetration has any effect on that.

[harsh urchin]

i would kill for 5% more dmg

[ionic frost]

But it will when Uncanny isn't stacked for sure.

[rocky raven]

rending is calced at 100% of base armor pen included now!

[harsh urchin]

it does bcz it's based on your ADM

lets say you have 60% pen and your base ADM is 60%

with 100% rending you end at 160%

lets say you have 80% pen and your base ADM is 75%

you end at 175% adm after 100% rending

[full dome]

thoughts on whats worth rerolling? im pretty damn happy with it rigiht out of the gate tho

[rocky raven]

thats a great explanation dis, didnt wanna split it up lol

[harsh urchin]

you ideally want better stats on the staff

[rocky raven]

ohya and finesse is calced post-rending which double win

[harsh urchin]

the perks/blessings are secondary to the stats

[ionic frost]

Make Ogryn head hurt.

[harsh urchin]

76+ burn, 79-80 cloud, 70+ warp/quell is ideal

[full dome]

i grt that but this is just a stopgap till i roll something better but i have a arm a bit first

so im gona juice it a bit till i get a better roll

[harsh urchin]

fair enough

i would set it to nexus/flurry and flak/unyielding

[full dome]

sick thats where my head was kinda at too, glad to see im not a fuckin dipshit lmao

first time asking anyone

[rocky raven]

it may feel a bit off since you need higher burn to apply full dot stacks/shorter range but will get ya going for now

[full dome]

noted

[nimble burrow]

still charging into 2025

[full dome]

lmao

[elfin roost]

Lmfao

[full dome]

won a difernt kind of lottery m8

[rocky raven]

thats a keeper

[ionic frost]

I remember using my first Trauma staff I ever got...

Ditched it and it's absurdly low charge rate after one game...

[full dome]

im not a huge fan of our craft/gear sytem but i do get a good chuckle out of shit like this sometimes lol

[rocky raven]

pretty sure OG DBZ powerups took fewer episodes than one cast form that thing

[ionic frost]

Yes.

[solemn nimbus]

yeah. right now it doesnt really compete with anything

[ionic frost]

Uh...

[full dome]

holy shit

i think i got a good base roll on my first try from the shop

[ionic frost]

So lower base Assail cooldown from 3 seconds to 1 second? =P

It can be you only weapon!

[solemn nimbus]

thats like

a maybe

lmao

a maybe for them to be good cus rn it takes like 3 of them to kill a poxwalker

[ionic frost]

Uh, I kill 3-6 poxwalkers per Assail shard...

on damnation

[latent hill]

Well, have you tried to use empowered psionics cap?

[ionic frost]

It used to be 2 second base cooldown before they nerfed it to 3 seconds.

[cold ivy]

the hidden benefit of assail psyker is being able to quickly clear the random gun-wielding grunts with no effort/resource expenditure

otherwise you have to spend either time or ammo dispatching them (especially if they're spread out)

[latent hill]

How’re you two handling assail?

[rocky raven]

eh, void LMB surge and never look back they ded

[harsh urchin]

I don't really recommend using assail unless you're weaving

[latent hill]

Weaving?

[harsh urchin]

it's pretty mediocre after the nerfs unless you are

[solemn nimbus]

yeah. ive done everything to make assail as good as i can and it doesnt outperform just shootung an autogun

[worthy relic]

thats not true

i just fiinished a damnation run and did over 1m dps as assaill - the next highest was 320k as a vet

assail is totalllly fine if u arent trying to take out heavies or bosses

[ionic frost]

you mean damage? =P

Can the God-Emperor of Mankind even do 1m dps?

If so, he could solo the warp and destroy it!

[worthy relic]

yes

[solemn nimbus]

post?

[vast rain]

so I got a killer voidstrike staff, what's the "kill all the things" talent build I want

[ornate hamlet]

True aim, warp damage on crit and that's uhhh kinda it

I guess you could get the peril resist nodes too and shriek

[velvet lotus]

Spark-heads ? can i ask question ?

[vast rain]

so shriek over shield?

[rocky raven]

its flexible based on how comfy you want it to be/whether you want shriek or bubble but what he said- grab the top 2 on-crits + true aim

[worthy relic]

bad match -- assail - dmg is totally fine

[velvet lotus]

Demon-head come to you and sez dat, wat you do

[ornate hamlet]

Easy trade

Zealot can be revived
But plasteel is plasteel

And if you're good you can clutch until zealot revives anyway wesmart

[velvet lotus]

good idea spark-heads

thx for aws- awserw-

ah grut it

thx for responce spark-head !

[rocky raven]

you seem lost #ogryn-class here

[velvet lotus]

had to ask question sah

[velvet lotus]

(look above for context )

[haughty scarab]

Facts

[junior linden]

so close to the top...

I really can feel myself improving and it feels good

[blissful dirge]

expanding your mind

keep going

[ornate hamlet]

°

^

The playing doesn't stop until you can clutch and solo auric Maelstroms like a chocob

[blissful dirge]

i wont stop play until i actualy have 100% in every class or the game kills itself and dies

[ornate hamlet]

I was going to aim for 100%

Then I realized that there are penances which require private games

Lol never gonna happen 💀

[blissful dirge]

i have the acvhivments done but not all penances

[ornate hamlet]

Until Fatshark makes solo mode + no bots

[blissful dirge]

use the bots as canon father

[ornate hamlet]

True

I'm just waiting for solo mode tbh
That's not just mod enabled

[blissful dirge]

yea

[ornate hamlet]

( and reds )

Not gonna spend anymore plasteel until they make reds

[blissful dirge]

i just need to get to level 30

with a class and then do solo pendance

[paper loom]

so happy i wasted plasteel upgrading this

[ornate hamlet]

Good luck :prayge:

[blissful dirge]

💀 ehhhh close range damage doesent really matter on that right?

[paper loom]

well i was thinking if i got the fire blessing i could do somethign with it

[blissful dirge]

yae

[paper loom]

anouther nice base ruined

[cloud sequoia]

nice plasma gun accident

[blissful dirge]

so real

[rocky raven]

i tht they patched that already lol

[cloud sequoia]

nope

[summer prairie]

They tried to fix it, but I think because unequip your plasmagun when exploding it still counts as warp_charge, which is defined in unarmed.lua

Or do you, actually haven't seen anyone explode with it

[rocky raven]

a lot more recently, with the influx of voc plas vets that only ads for some reason lol

[umbral helm]

I've noticed that's a very common pairing, and was always confused by it a little

[rocky raven]

cause its the first one listed on gameslantern lol

[plucky flax]

Shovel plasma shout.

Very good build.

[rocky raven]

for sure. im more referencing the recent surge of people running it that dont know how it works

had 3 just tonight that refused to hipfire only ADS 3x then blow up or run away to reload. were absent 40% of the strike

had 2 with lmb ping bound thinking it solves their focus issues.... and a 3rd but was an ogryn? idek what was up there lol

[plucky flax]

[unborn lava]

salvagable? pen is a few % dmg lower but uncanny should make up for that snall bit id think?

[ionic needle]

Very salvagable, reroll riposte to shred and flak to carapace or unyielding and it's an excellent sword

[vestal fulcrum]

Finally something else than the Mk4

[plucky flax]

Based MK2 user.

(Don't compare the heavy 1 damage. Xd)

[raw slate]

@radiant sleet hey :3 i heard you have a sick build for psyker assail/soulblaze! I can't find it though! Lmk!! Just got the game an am looooving this class

[blissful dirge]

enjoy the game

[blissful dirge]

[shadow wigeon]

Finally broke a milly damage, first time since Patch 13 on psyker (the ogryn was a late join, no hate on his damage)

[edgy meteor]

Hot damb, congrats!!!

What are you running to get such wild numbers?

[shadow wigeon]

Surge/Flames, my long time main

I cna post the build

[edgy meteor]

That would be much appreciated if you could

[shadow wigeon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aec13a1-8d04-4fde-a2ff-2c73786ac358/surgeflames-sprint

By far my favourite build, just lots of fun to tear through things

[sonic elbow]

Ah I’ve seen similar stuff to this

Is this where you get high peril and vent it to get high soulflame stacks?

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, that's one of the pillars

[cold ivy]

85+% gets you 6 stacks which (iirc) cleans up everything non-taggable

[shadow wigeon]

Flame horde > Sword horde to pump flames with Slaughter/Perfect Timing

[sonic elbow]

Oh nice

[shadow wigeon]

You can take out bigger things, if you plow ahead

Also has Kinetic Resonance for boss smashing

[sonic elbow]

So would you run purgatus with this?

[cold ivy]

i believe it!

[shadow wigeon]

No, my gear is in the link I posted.

Surge

[sonic elbow]

Ah

Why is that

?

[rocky raven]

an FYI on this, depending on how good the dmg/perk roll roll is you'll want a combination of +flak+elitesT4, kinetic aura and/or 5% range node for the 1shot BP guarantee on gunners | 2shot BP is lower

warp keystone makes this easier too + faster CD for more blaze shrieks all the time

[shadow wigeon]

Mainly because its' super strong, but also very fast peril generation, targets elites specifically

[sonic elbow]

Right

[shadow wigeon]

Elites = Perilous Combustion and AUra CDR

which feeds back into Flames

[plucky flax]

They ran too fast I didn't manage to get 1 mil.

[sonic elbow]

So it’s strong, builds up your peril fast for good stacks of soulflame from vent as well

[cold ivy]

the other way to get peril super fast is to spam force sword special (but normally you should be doing something useful while building peril)

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I have a few staffs, I run +elites sometimes, this is the "take to any mission build"
I sometimes will swap Slaughter for Deflector if you think you'll need to carry....

[shadow wigeon]

Yes, I actually do this all the time. Becayse you cooldown on flames is 20 seconds at most, and often only 15 seconds

YOu're going to have many Flames bursts you just pump with sword before the fights starts

or pull the next room

with flames

[rocky raven]

swap riposte for executor btw, THATS the carry deimos

oh wait nvm you got illisi

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah... Carry I really meant "clutch" or solo

[rocky raven]

lol

[shadow wigeon]

Deflector comes in handy when you have very weak team

But Slaughter pumps those soulblaze stacks nicely.

[sonic elbow]

So you run deflector if your ogryn may not be good enough to keep the attention off you?

Because you’re more of a glass cannon with slaughter

[shadow wigeon]

A few tips if you want to try it:

1. Use you L1 Botl attack on staff a lot. It's very strong, and great for targeting elites at range or even in a horde. It's slow peril gen too.
2. Always get up to 85% before you shriek
3. Once you have light soul blaze, if it's a horde charge when with sword, to proc Slaughter/Perfect Timing, pump sword for Warp Rider. And your soulblaze will carry very fast.
4. You can turtle with defelctor to build peril, and then burst flames. If the horde is in your face, use em to build peril.

[shadow wigeon]

No, Deflector if you need to solo the mission.
You can sprint muder with this buikd

[sonic elbow]

damn

[shadow wigeon]

have many games with sub 20 damage taken.

[sonic elbow]

I’m definitely going to try out this build

[shadow wigeon]

Weirdly, Essence Harvest was the final key to it. Which I never imagined.

[sonic elbow]

I’ve not enjoyed bubble that much because it feels a bit too support-y

[shadow wigeon]

I don't know if it's easy to play? But the main thing is use ALL your tools with this. Everything is there for a reason.
pop shriek to BB a boss, or crushers are often a good target for head popping (although surge is fine)

[shadow wigeon]

Link has all the gear including curios.

It's a bit extreme but 21%HP curio with +10%health talent is exactly enough to survive a sniper hit, and have 1hp over 1 wound

or 2 hits and be left with 1 hp.
dont get hit, ideally but this has the exact health to eat 1 sniper shot per wound, if you need to.

@sonic elbow The staff is the easiest one to roll, in case you dont have one already. If your first blessing is not T4 Flurry/Nexus or Terrifying Barrage, swap it to Terrifying Barrage before you roll to gold. You're almost guaranteed Nexus/Flurry on the second blessing.
So all you need is 1 good perk, and you're very likely done with the staff.

[shadow wigeon]

I've had so many games at ~950K lately, scraping that ceiling

[plucky flax]

Very pro. I usually only get over 1 mil in melee maelstrom meme.

[shadow wigeon]

@edgy meteor Sorry should @ you as well, added some more notes above on how to play the build, and roll the staff.

[tough cipher]

950k sus

[cold ivy]

another tip for the force swords: the push attack has insane stagger - iirc it's enough to knock a rager to the ground and interrupt a crusher overhead

[tough cipher]

Don't think I've ever had above 450 so far lol

like 350-450k average

[shadow wigeon]

Oh yeah! it's key to ragers/mauler anything that surprises you

you can block for peril into flames, but just push em

[cold ivy]

so you can get out of some ridiculous situations like stacked armor in a very small room

[summer prairie]

I don't use the push to interrupt much but it has like 8-9m range

[sonic elbow]

oh that's nice

[plucky flax]

Normal game with surge staff. 700k in 30 mins is about the norm for me. 30 mins something game, 700~850k damage.

[sonic elbow]

oh ok that's really convenienty

[shadow wigeon]

You got 2 screenshots above with a million damage each....

[summer prairie]

depending on what weapon you use the default scoreboard inflates damage by 100-300k for psyker. Maybe not for a gun psyker

[plucky flax]

Shhhh

[tough cipher]

Yeah dw I didn't mean it as in I doubt it happened. more so that it makes me look like even more of a pleb if people are getting 950k consistently

But yeah, gz gamer o:

[plucky flax]

Assail is the easiest to get big damage number for clout.

[shadow wigeon]

Not many people, but it's totally possible to hit 700K+ in every game, very good plasma chads, or madlad ogryns can make it challenging. At that point you're just racing.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I still find Assail pretty busted

[summer prairie]

there are only so many enemies to kill, your dmg depends heavily on your teammates and how quickly you progress

[cold ivy]

main sadness with assail is (i think) it's impossible to get psykinetic's aura due to the shape of the talent tree

and that talent is so good

[lavish pine]

I hate that they "fixed" smite while allowing asail to continue being as busted as it is.

[plucky flax]

Yep no aura and no wildfire for me.

[tough cipher]

That's fair yeah, just always found it crazy how big the skill gap still is though. Like I by no means have great rolls yet but grinding them out now, just doubt that the small changes on stuff like weapons is going to make up the 300-500k i'm lower hahah. So still have a lot to improve on in general

[plucky flax]

With blaze trauma it's 85% my staff, 10% my skill.

[shadow wigeon]

It's the build really. There are some pretty busted weapons in the game if you just want a high score.
But using stuff that's not ttally broken, there's a few builds that are really strong.

[plucky flax]

Blessed by tzeentch for my op staff.

[plucky flax]

Waiting on blazing spirits t4 still.

[cold ivy]

are there specific breakpoints you need for blaze trauma to be good? i heard charge + radius 78+% somewhere, which is... kinda hard for a poor player like me

[plucky flax]

There's a break point to 1 shot full charge a bruiser I recall where you need around 74%+ damage.

[tough cipher]

What would you say in general are some good recommendations for builds that are good in the meta atm?

Rn I have a force sword + voidstrike smite build & dueling sword + revolver assail one I'm working on.

Liked the look of the other staffs but wasn't sure how to build them.

Took a look at the one you posted earlier tho for some ideas.

[plucky flax]

Charge rate and blast radius contribute to your damage by increasing your attack rate and aoe. It doesn't affect breakpoint.

[shadow wigeon]

Obviously I love Surge/Flames
Blaze Trauma is strong
Mix of single target, CC and aoe for both those builds.
Void I've only found very strong with Scrier's - which is great if you like it, but a tougher build to run.
I don't do gun psyker anymore, so i dont pay attention to any fo the builds.

[tough cipher]

Blaze/Trauma looks interesting to try as well, do you perhaps have an example of a talent tree you'd run for those? 😮

I tried a little bit of SG but just found that I couldn't really make it work yet ( was a few days ago when I was a fresh 30 ) but might try it again soon ish as I'm atleast getting more confident in general

[glossy ember]

[shadow wigeon]

Ask @plucky flax I don't have a blaze trauma build around anymore. I imagine it isn't too different from what im running for surge, although you might ditch Kinetic Resonance for Warp Battery, and taken Tranquility instead of Essence Harvest. Might want soul stealer as well.

[glossy ember]

and 5% gamer juice

[plucky flax]

My build is at the start. I run illisi for normal maelstrom and ds4 for melee maelstrom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk3r1ejk5PQ

[lean python]

Question for the big brains, How do i fix this?

[plucky flax]

Most important component is an OP staff. Good luck.

I would replace weak spot damage with maniac, then up to you what blessing you want to keep.

Replace 1 with uncanny strike.

[plucky flax]

Juicy.

[blissful dirge]

went to the tim hortons for the wizard brain goo warp energy

[tough cipher]

Cheers! I'm still relatively clueless as to how to build myself or atleast from scratch so any start point / pointers are always great! Thank you! 🙂

[tough cipher]

Will check it out! appreciate it

[mossy surge]

[rocky raven]

swap in uncanny, of the 2 i'd keep shred
weakspot > maniac

woop chaos beat me to it lol

[lean python]

Thanks for the insight

[left dagger]

trying trauma staff its interesting, cant deal big damage like void but the CC is great, need assail to snipe at longer distance

[ornate hamlet]

Trauma is my favorite atm

[ornate hamlet]

It's why I just go brain burst myself

The downside is that you can't clear hordes as fast

But you can now kill snipers or gunners that are too far for your stick / scream

[rocky raven]

it def can put out good dmg but requires well rolled staff and the rightblessings

[near wyvern]

You need the fire trauma roll and if you use it with creeping flames it's 1M damage capable build

Depends on the missions and friendlies ofc but high damage

[strange bone]

uh..

what?

I've never seen this blessing before

what do

does it just fire two bolts on crit?

do bolt hit twice on crit?

[stuck mica]

Yes, very good, combine with the True Aim talent and/or high crit chance