psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

[magic kayak]

Have you ever been trapped in a net while in a net?

[lethal lagoon]

Have you ever had a dog knock off the dog on top of you?

I haven't either, I'm just wondering if it's a thing.

[ornate hamlet]

Me when I'm clutching, get pounced and hear the voice of the Emperor in the form of an AAAAAAAAAAAAAA that knocks the dog off of me

The voice threw me on the instakill fire 10 seconds later

Him on Terra works in mysterious ways

[orchid nest]

dog knocks a dog off of you, mutant picks you up before you can react, throws you into a mid air sniper shot into a pool of fire

never change, darktide

[lethal lagoon]

Mutant throws you right on top of a poxburster, who bounces you mid-air to another poxburster.

[orchid nest]

[lethal lagoon]

Darktide true combo

Get rezzed in fire and get instantly trapped.

[ornate hamlet]

I like that when you die you just gain infinite mass

[lethal lagoon]

I would love ragdoll deaths

[ornate hamlet]

The mutant tries to throw you, but now your entire body got replaced by liquid mercury

[lethal lagoon]

at least let me laugh when I get gibbed by something stupid.

[ornate hamlet]

I wish getting downed worked like that

You go down, but the mutant throws you where you were meant to go

[lethal lagoon]

If you get downed by a crusher you seperate into multiple parts your team has to collect to rez you.

[ornate hamlet]

Would also be hilarious for people to die and get thrown by a mutant

[lethal lagoon]

It would

[ornate hamlet]

You just see that dude doing a cartwheel in the air

[lethal lagoon]

Mutant throws in general are hilarious

[ornate hamlet]

Bounces on the floor all wrong

[lethal lagoon]

It's a shame everyone is good at killing mutants nowadays

[orchid nest]

I had a good random thing happen just recently at least, it was the end of the ammo raid level on monstrous specials and this silent plague ogryn charged up onto the platform right as I hit the switch about knocking me onto the platform with the valkyrie. heart dropped mid air

[lethal lagoon]

It's the darktide rule, the bigger they are the har-quieter they are.

If we ever get a mega raid boss, it'll be completely silent.

[orchid nest]

like fel reavers in BC wow

whatever is happening with special sounds lately does happen with monstrous specials to me sometimes too though. just like no roar, didn't hear stomping. faced the valkyrie to push the button, turn around and surprise plague ogryn instantly punting you

[umbral helm]

the lack of sounds has just made pinging all the more useful for me, even if people don't do it enough (or when they do they spam the shit out of it), because at least if you didn't hear it you might see it now that it's pinged

[orchid nest]

yeah for sure

[umbral helm]

regardless I tend to just ping shit in a crowd/far away because it helps me pick out for shots easier

[rare mesa]

does soul blaze void staff work

[umbral helm]

lmb - burn quick, stagger
rmb - burn longer, more DoT

[lethal lagoon]

I'm sure basically everything works at this point(except maybe paul).

[umbral helm]

my brain placed a "how" before "does"

[rare mesa]

idk wat 2 pick

i can try blaze for a bit ig

[lethal lagoon]

I mean surge is obviously better.

blazing voidstrike is by far a meme, but base voidstrike is strong enough that you'll be fine.

[rare mesa]

i love meme builds

[umbral helm]

also thought you were talking purg but I see now. I ran blazing void for a bit, it's kinda like blazing trauma but a lot worse at spreading the fire

[untold widget]

I dunno if it would work considering a void crit will usually kill whatever it hits, not sure what the soulfire would do

like I could maybe see an interaction with wildfire, but idk if the soulblaze on crit will spread if the target dies from the crit that would apply soulblaze

if that makes sense

but that would still be bad

[rare mesa]

i would like to blast a horde a couple times light it all on fire and casually walk away all cool like

[untold widget]

right but blazing spirit isn't like Perilous combustion

it doesnt set things around the target on fire, it sets the target on fire. Which would already be dead

so

idk

[rare mesa]

well i mean it's all for building fire stacks ya

[untold widget]

you could probably put a couple of stacks on a crusher

[rare mesa]

an addendum

[untold widget]

because those would live through a crit

but hordes don't live through a void crit

so

[rare mesa]

it's defo worse than 2x hit on crit fur sure

[untold widget]

I think it'd even be worse than just a standard flurry/nexus

ima go get some tacos

[rare mesa]

bye be safe

[tawdry pasture]

give me a tree that lets me be this guy

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-play-pc-south-park-busy-gif-16026133

[ornate hamlet]

Ideally blazing spirit works for stuff you take a bit to kill and need help with

Problem is, for every enemy the soulblaze would help, you can get uncanny strike and fire shriek

And still keep shred

[tawdry pasture]

i activated a demonhost with the soulblaze build yesterday and it caused a wipe

[ornate hamlet]

Based

[tawdry pasture]

took all i had to suppress laughing openly

[thorn cedar]

hmmmm

i should just go flip a fucking coin lmao

[ornate hamlet]

I'd keep left

Oh wait, left is blast radius

Uhhhh

I'd keep left for the perks

[thorn cedar]

i feel like homer at the cursed shopkeepers

[ornate hamlet]

Wait, the locked blessing is warp flurry

I'd switch the right one to warp flurry

[thorn cedar]

flurry is my preference

[ornate hamlet]

Uh fuckin

Nexus

Jesus, did I get drunk on coca cola

I mean, you have two staves anyway

[thorn cedar]

this is what i'd been using so either way

im getting an upgrade

[proven stirrup]

yeah fuck this

I'm too trash at this game to play with any ult but the bubble and I'll not be wasting my energy doing that anymore

🩼

[untold widget]

HEAD ON A SWIVEL REJECT

[proven stirrup]

It's not even about the shield really, it's the resilience it provides

Can't really do anything about the gunner behind me when the gunner in front of me is also still alive

Oh and don't forget about geometry eating my dodges

That doesn't help either

Point is, I'm trash and I'm going to play like it

[orchid shadow]

That's why I'm always stuck being rear guard. I don't trust anyone else to guard my back, so I have to do it myself.

[proven stirrup]

Also I hate the deimos

I wanted to like it but it's too one-trick for me

[untold widget]

I like the deimos, it's good enough at everything for me to use comfortably especially on purg staff

[proven stirrup]

That's the DS4 for me

[untold widget]

its like a DS4 that can run deflector

[proven stirrup]

Too bad it's light chain is balls in hordes

[untold widget]

it's not that bad

[proven stirrup]

If I find myself caught out and swarmed, I want that little bit of extra cleave you get from DS4 light spam

[untold widget]

you have 2 hits before the stab so you can easily block cancel

[proven stirrup]

Too much thought

[untold widget]

I'm starting to suspect some of the reasons you say you're bad

next you'll say you play without sound and listen to music

[proven stirrup]

I do not. I understand the importance of sound cues.

[untold widget]

well you've got that at least

the rest is just situational awareness

[proven stirrup]

The problem I'm having is adapting to any other kits outside of the bubble on psyker

[untold widget]

and muscle memory

[proven stirrup]

I feel naked without it

I cannot protect myself well enough when shit gets crazy.

[untold widget]

cover does exist

its usually all over

[proven stirrup]

Sure, then no one' playing the objective

[untold widget]

pretend you're in a cop drama shootout

[proven stirrup]

I'm doing my best, ok? But the literal zero success I've had not running the bubble is tiresome

[untold widget]

theres some definite times where bubble makes everything easier, that's true

[proven stirrup]

Yeah it's not even a silver bullet, I've failed plenty of times with it for sure.

[kindred ivy]

run smite instead

[proven stirrup]

But I'm real tired of having to play perfectly to get anything out of my time

And that's sure not happening lmao

[untold widget]

I've gotten to the point where I'll run non optimal stuff just to challenge myself, so I can't super relate

[untold widget]

but I've also got 750 hours of VT2 under my belt

[proven stirrup]

Yeah nah. I don't play games to twist myself into knots trying to challenge myself

[untold widget]

we're like completely opposite lol

[untold verge]

i play for fun too calli

i do sword only psyker

[proven stirrup]

I've got enough challenges to overcome on my side of the screen. That shit gets left behind

[untold widget]

I'll do knife psyker pretty often to farm plasteel

[proven stirrup]

It's one of the reasons I can't do Auric stuff often either. It's mentally exhausting I can play one of those missions like once a week at best

[untold widget]

I remember first jumping into auric I was shell shocked pretty fast

like "holy shit, can you just stop for a single gorram second?

[untold verge]

i like high octane games but i like that in real life

[untold widget]

but after a while, I get into the groove of it and its fine

[proven stirrup]

I have mental health issues that make stimulation like that very unpleasant

[untold widget]

then I go back to regular damnation and start getting bored

[proven stirrup]

There's no getting used to it for me. It's just suffering

[untold widget]

speaking of, I'ma jump into a game right quick

what build should I do?

Don't everyone speak up at once

[untold verge]

gun

[untold widget]

which gun?

[thorn cedar]

scrier voidstrike is the only way i feel alive as a staff Psyker

[untold widget]

i dunno, I feel pretty alive while using Purg to Empathic Evasion sniper gauntlet missions

[strong gulch]

Base stats are good, RIP about everything else.

[untold widget]

this is my mk10 las

[south gull]

It always feels like im doing nothing when using purgatus until you look at end of game stats

[strong gulch]

kinda true

[untold widget]

I don't use mods, so I couldn't tell you

[kindred ivy]

the day they buff the obsucurs

i am fucking SET

[potent echo]

It solves most encounters, other than positioning and movement it's a very brain-off weapon

[south gull]

all the staffs are kinda brain off

[thorn cedar]

ye thats why scriers gaze keeps things spicy

[eager mantle]

lol I got cliffhanger with trauma

[half iron]

epic

[untold widget]

gun game done

[kindred ivy]

TF interesting, but the crowd contorll doesnt evne compare to what smite can do

do i take true aim to fish for blze procs on my trauma blaze?

[silk hawk]

Are u gona stack it with melee or something?

Not worth the effort...

[untold widget]

used to do that when smite would stack true aim

not anymore

[dawn spoke]

does voidstrike rly suck at boss damage or is this skill issue

[untold widget]

hit weak spots with full charge

[kindred ivy]

the VS boss dmg is decent

but isnt zelot

[untold widget]

if you don't hit the weak spot, it's not worth charging

[dawn spoke]

seems like that mostly staggers it, which is nice, but it definitely isn't doing much damage

[untold widget]

you have Surge on it?

[dawn spoke]

yea

[kindred ivy]

heres my peformance wiht a shatter trauma force.

as u can see i collected abot infinite times more plasteel than the usual

[silk hawk]

It can stagger em, but is not that good even with surge

[kindred ivy]

since i usually just dont colelct any :XD:

my nitro is over 😔

[untold widget]

if you're used to zealot boss damage, then not a lot on psyker is going to seem relevant

[strong gulch]

Generally no, but there is a blazing spirit + rending shockwave build that uses true aim to proc blazing spirit. That build uses trauma more for CC, setting up your melee, and oh shit moments.

[dawn spoke]

never played zealot I'm just almost always last in boss damage and wanted to make sure it was a build and not a skill issue

[untold widget]

its a psyker thing

only like... scriers columnus gunkers do decent boss damage

[dawn spoke]

makes sense

[untold widget]

surge staff also can do some mediocre boss damage, but most of them have shit tons of warp resist so its hard

[silk hawk]

Which is why bb cannot shine as it should x(

[strong gulch]

For most psyker builds, if you have top monster / boss dps then the whole team was lacking boss damage.

[untold widget]

yeah

[rare mesa]

which makes that penance a cruel joke

[long wharf]

we really need a talent node that makes soulblaze reduce warp resistance by X% per stack

among other things

[thick valley]

This is a great idea 🤌🏻

[long wharf]

I'm full of great ideas

[silk hawk]

Also why cara armor affects soulblaze dmg?

Thats just stupid...

[proven stirrup]

It's just fire

Just because the source of it is different doesn't mean it has any special effects on the enemy or anything. It has no reason to do anything past armor

[silk hawk]

Oi in my opinion it should amplify fire dmg not reducing it...

[proven stirrup]

That only makes sense if you're exposed to it enough to actual retain heat

[long wharf]

incorrect - it's warpfire

soulblaze is the soul literally burning via warp energy

it should bypass all armor

[proven stirrup]

???

[stone totem]

The fact that BB damage can vary to the point that it is possible for many things to require an additional headpop for the remaining >1% of health they can potentially have left is sad

[proven stirrup]

Well I'm not enough of a warhammer nerd to agree with that

[kindred ivy]

i udno, after playing once with each one of me staves the performance is similar to my previous build

the blaze on the truama blaze is basically just a discount flame vent

[sturdy sleet]

They really should add a talent to Psyker tree that gives BB an 'execute' mechanic; like if BB brings an enemy down to less than 5% health, execute kicks in and kills them.

[kindred ivy]

empowered BB

should do that

imo

[gusty furnace]

hmm 🤔

[kindred ivy]

which misson?

like

which modifier

trauma force is a lot better than the last time i used it

[gusty furnace]

Auric Damnation High Intensity

[kindred ivy]

ah makes sence

trauma blaze/ or what?

[gusty furnace]

I don't think I'm emotionally prepared to grind this penance out :(

[kindred ivy]

i ran trauma blaze on damnation normal and got baout this. aimge on auric the dmg owuld have been higher.

the build is def a lot more active in terms of gamepla

[kindred ivy]

compared to EP smiting everything

[gusty furnace]

Whatever people wanna say about brainburst

its still a fine grenade

It just uh

[kindred ivy]

its pretty good paired with trauma

[gusty furnace]

needs a faster charge time

[kindred ivy]

since it lacks the range

[gusty furnace]

do that and it's fine.

I don't really care if makes funny ult use BB speed absolutely bananas

baseline BB just isn't that fun to use

even if its, strictly speaking, fine.

[kindred ivy]

the void charges are good to prock the fast BBs

and u usually use the fast BB to kill elites , whihc gives u void charges back

it self feeds pertty nice

[peak kelp]

looking for people to do malleus monstronum penance

[stone totem]

I would rather they just put that in as either a default or make the BB damage not erratic (...or just buff the damage hehehehaw)

Needing two EP'd* BBs to kill a flak rager when the director can at will spawn a 30 pack of them is feelsbad

Purgatus helps with that though

[hidden cosmos]

Yeah honestly soulblaze should be doing true damage, since unless every enemy with cara armor is either a psyker or a Pariah, there wouldn't be much anyone could actually do to resist it, or block it.

[thorn cedar]

ogryn strong

your argument is invalid

[hidden cosmos]

But game balance and allat is important so E

Ogryn is fun, 10/10 class, I get to smack ppl with hand, gun, and melee weapon, I have zero complaints

[potent zenith]

how does one build this?

[thorn cedar]

flak for specialists

shred or rampage for hammerblow probs

[potent zenith]

no rampage sadly

and only shred 2. guess it'll have to do

[calm basalt]

earn t4 blessing and reroll for a mk4 💀 (mk4 is better overall iirc)

[potent zenith]

so eat ss and just reroll for a mk4. gotcha

[calm basalt]

I have read on steam guide that mk4 has better moveset, I haven't tested it myself

[potent zenith]

which blaze sword is best?

[calm basalt]

I'll refer you to the steam guide that is in pinned comments in this channel

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[potent zenith]

thx

[ornate hamlet]

I love illisi, I hate deimos

I can't aim deimos

Shit's 5 times thicker than the dueling sword and the hitbox is idfk 5 times smaller

I would've clipped me whiffing like 7 attacks in a row on a shotgunner

[gusty flicker]

For mk4 dueling sword whats the stat importance order?

[idle bay]

And Obscuros does not even mentioned... a fitting name 🙂

[viscid matrix]

the guide has that

[potent echo]

Obscuros needs a niche

And "bored of Deimos" isnt considered one

[idle bay]

"i want to try something very off-meta" niche probably 🙂

[potent echo]

Yea lmao

Tactical axe psyker 👀

[idle bay]

Axes are fine tools always were and were never nerfed. Combat axes as well

[ionic sorrel]

Please let me know if you can get tactical axe working

[idle bay]

There is video evidence on youtube 🙂 Though i was stuck with combat axe for half a year at least - how good it was, not tactical one though.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-jive-early-to-bed-early-to-rise-how-true-gif-14018663

[ionic sorrel]

Gosh, I gotta find that. I wanna use one.,

[idle bay]

Though it's tac axe videos on zealot and vet, not on psyker...

[ionic sorrel]

I want to try and find a good build for psyker

[idle bay]

What is your definition of good build? For me it's a build that so comfy to use that it becomes ytour ultimate comfort zone, and it's really hard to switch to anything else.

[ornate hamlet]

Like a good build in general or a good build for taxe?

Oh my God

The second light on the obscurus has no head priority whatsoever

I, with my crosshair dead on the rager's head, consistently hit his knee with it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insanity-gato-louco-insanidade-gif-21825545

[idle bay]

If only leg strikes made enemies stumble and fall

[ornate hamlet]

The surge funnies have begun

My only regret is

The customization plugin doesn't have the plasma gun

[ionic sorrel]

Something I can hold my own in Auric with and is enjoyable to play.

[idle bay]

i'm lazy basic Damnation player... i dare not to recomend you anything 🙂

[brave fiber]

crusher oneshots with voidstrike+surge will always be my favorite thing in the game

[ionic sorrel]

Damnation is fun too.

[idle bay]

It hold no candle to madness happening in auric 🙂

[ionic sorrel]

Yeah, things get silly.

[idle bay]

Damnation hidden diffculty modifier is new players who try to adapt to damantion. And speedruners that ruin monotone plasteel farming.

[ionic sorrel]

I do enjoy the plasteel farming.

[idle bay]

Who does not ? 🙂

[brave fiber]

normal damnation and heresy aurics were always like this for me

[idle bay]

There is a another WH40k game that keeps trolling you with abundance of Plasteel - Rogue Trader.

It's like every goddam sistym have a planet with a Plasteel...

[plucky flax]

Duo but I made sure to grab all the plasteels
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074072655206043658/1190031696381358171/image.png?ex=65a05262&is=658ddd62&hm=49ae9111f41bc37b7d6d29c342dbdec9e1cdeb1630525378c5914289400edb3e&

[idle bay]

Not all, your teammate pickied 220 🙂

Also what is your opinion on tac axes?

[plucky flax]

Well we made sure to check plasteels.

I think it's currently useless.

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[idle bay]

So it's off-meta tool to show off ? 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

Surge + Smite is probably the most braindead build in the game

[idle bay]

It' requires 1 and a half bran cells to use that is why i enjoy it so much. Though i barely touch Smite during missions 🙂

[plucky flax]

If you can do well with tac axe more power to you but imo is a meme.

[strong gulch]

I'd argue that trauma + assail is easier on the brain. It is at least for me when I've either been drinking or am deep in brain fog.

Specifically fire trauma + assail + creeping flames + DS4.

[distant roost]

trauma at least requires slight aim

[ornate hearth]

Hi all, I just rolled the following illisi. I'm thinking about swapping out unstable power for T4 slaughter and specialist damage for something. Anyone have suggestions?

[distant roost]

So there’s at least one wrinkle on the brain when using trauma

[strong gulch]

the peril management + the quickness required on surge is what makes it less brain friendly for me.

I can just toss out shards or blast my own feet and be ok.

[idle bay]

Each time i play with Trauama - i end up having nerve tick for couple of days. That aim of circle is so luggish and clunky, like switching to slow mo each time you charge it... But powerful AF....

[strong gulch]

I think another brain unfriendly thing for me is the lightening. Harder to look at post migraine.

[ornate hamlet]

Surge is just so

Brain off mode

You slightly aim it where you want and ask the game to hit an enemy somewhere nearby

And it's so fucking spammy now

[strong gulch]

I'd keep unstable and swap specials to maniac.

[plucky flax]

Surge smite is much easier to play for me.

Maybe my trauma playstyle is too sweaty.

[strong gulch]

Trauma can get really sweaty.

It can also be kinda low effort too if you use assail a lot.

[lethal lagoon]

For me aiming the little trauma circle is the brain unfriendly thing.

I got like 1-2 trauma games in me before I get tired.

[plucky flax]

Ooh assail trauma

Interesting but no wildfire

[strong gulch]

No wildfire. Sorry fen

fren

lol. typing hard

[strong gulch]

Valid. Brains and their differences.

[ornate hearth]

I just did some testing in the meat grinder. If I happen to crit with a special attack, I one shot a mutant, otherwise it is an additional H2. With reposit, I'll be getting a ton of crits with the weapon in general.

I think I'm going to leave it as is and test it out for a few games in general prior to tweaking it.

Slaughter gives more total power, but I'm constantly pulling out the sword when at high perril so it may be overkill.

[chrome patrol]

u can do auric with basically any weapon you put some thought into it. more important is personal skill an mechanics tbh

just make sure to have a combination to kill all types of armor

[plucky flax]

Me when I have no monster damage on my surge smite build

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is enoughish

[chrome patrol]

i mean no monster dmg is a standart for psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Gunker supremacy

[chrome patrol]

never liked the build but apart from that you basically only kill em slowlys

[plucky flax]

Team pls help

[chrome patrol]

😂

i mean you can kite an kill em but maybe not great for higher difficulties

but in comparason the smite surge build best with shriek kills anything else than monsters

busted build way to strong

[potent echo]

Melee is the "damage"

[gloomy magnet]

run smite build
monster jumpscare
cope

[potent echo]

Unless illisi, then good luck

[plucky flax]

I run illisi

[chrome patrol]

same cant run any other weapon on psyker

[potent echo]

Deimos, duellies, knife do respectable damage

Because uncanny is so good

[chrome patrol]

duel is fine but i prefer illisi

i cant deal with deimos the pattern annoys me

[potent echo]

Gimme more weapons with intricate combos 🥵

[plucky flax]

I made double bleed blessings knife on zealot. Zealot chat hate it so imma run it

[strong gulch]

For sure. Regardless of meta or general recs, tailoring your kit for you is important.

[stone canyon]

Best weapon for pushing poxwalkers off a bridge?

[ornate hearth]

Thank you for your insight. I'm going to keep a close eye on maniac breakpoints in my test games.

[ornate hamlet]

which of the duelling swords is the best?

[gloomy magnet]

4

[potent echo]

Surge is the fun because it's so flexible

[plucky flax]

4 does more damage just because

[potent echo]

Just run in start zapping

[plucky flax]

Don't ask why. It's fartshart.

[potent echo]

Switch to melee etc

[compact thorn]

One of the great things about surge is ability to push away poxbusters

[potent echo]

Just press your staff special

[compact thorn]

[cold ivy]

i dunno if it's a placebo but since i allocated "you count as dodging ranged attacks for 1s on crit" and ran surge staff i feel almost invulnerable against ranged

[potent echo]

It's amazing when it works

[plucky flax]

I actually don't run that talent on surge.

[potent echo]

Sometimes it just doesn't and you die

[plucky flax]

The attack rate is not fast enough for me to find that useful. It's great on purga or assail for me though.

[compact thorn]

Bubble or deflector for that

[potent echo]

Ew

[cold ivy]

yeah i guess it really is RNG, best thing to do is still to have good positioning

[idle bay]

Poking eneimes to death with DS4 with Shred + Empathic Dodge - that one allows to stay in that dodge state until you ran out of things to poke

[strong gulch]

Knife crit dodges

[eager mantle]

Been using illisi for a while. Swapped back to DS4 to mix things up, god damn I was forgetting how beautiful it works against crushers and maulers

[strong gulch]

yip

[potent echo]

Poke, stagger crusher

[idle bay]

I stopped using DS and gone back to Illsi after way too many groxshit bleedthrough damage incedents (it supposed to be blocked but nope).

[brisk lance]

Anyone here use Trauma?

[ornate hamlet]

That's a loaded question

[brisk lance]

I mean as their primary staff

Not interested in Void, or Purge, or Surge.

[strong gulch]

I'm a trauma enjoyer. @plucky flax also likes trauma.

[plucky flax]

Nobody uses trauma is so bad.

Pls buff.

[strong gulch]

🙏

[near wyvern]

I used to main trauma but I am addicted to Psylot

[strong gulch]

Psylot is fun. I was anti-gun for a long time, but even I like it.

[gloomy magnet]

gunker supremacy

gun-men

[vestal fulcrum]

It has a niche of me having at least two god rolled ones in my inventory

But I agree

It could have a more varied moveset

Maybe with the possible implementation of both FS specials, somehow

[potent echo]

activation light is illisi, heavy activation is deimos

Maybe too strong

[vestal fulcrum]

The problem with Obscurus is that it has both its movesets scuffed. Lights that don’t have a distinct cleaving pattern, and heavies that don’t easily chain back into… what, one cleaving light?

And if it were to be changed in some way

[potent echo]

Heavy light light is nice

The stab is real good, like the Deimos stab

[plucky flax]

I subscribe.

[potent echo]

Crowd clear I like light heavy light loop

[strong gulch]

Are whips a thing in 40k?

I want whips.

[potent echo]

Self flagellation is a thing so yea

[north estuary]

[mighty fractal]

Aye

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Neural_Whip

It’s mostly a Sororitas thing, though

Which means, sadly… it’d probably be another Zealot weapon.

But psyker with power whip would be cool

I’d like a force dagger

[strong gulch]

A power whip would be cool. Sad it would be a zealot thing.

I have been crying for a force / warp / soulblaze knife for so long. 🥲

Just give it to us.

[idle bay]

Drukhari Agoniser anyone?

[restive slate]

I noticed my game stutters from time to time, like a brief 2 seconds and Ive gotten downed a few times because I get hit during those stutters.

Anyone have any suggestions to resolve this?

[vestal fulcrum]

You might want to go to FS forums and look for similar threads that describe a familiar issue, closed or not, or write a technical support ticket yourself

[mighty olive]

So ummm

This week's psyker aquilas outfit xD

Am snow astronaut!

[vestal fulcrum]

toilet bowl included

[mighty olive]

RIGHT OMG

I was really hoping the light bulbs inside the helm would light up at like max peril or something

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s something for FS to consider. IDK how the apparatus works in practice, but it would be nice to have even minimal feedback from the thing working

[lethal lagoon]

Assuming it's not an issue with your PC not being able to handle the game, look up the solutions for Elden Ring stuttering.

Obviously, more popular than darktide and with it's own stuttering problem, there are a lot more solutions for stuttering unrelated to hardware performance.

For if you can't find a working solution on darktide forums and stuff.

[left basin]

when psyker gonna have more fors wepons

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s not like FS would tell us in advance, you know.

[left basin]

they gonna tell me

[ornate hamlet]

Am I crazy or do duelling swords auto block sometimes?

[vestal fulcrum]

They don’t do anything like that, I’m afraid

[compact cargo]

We got a visual bug where occasionally tech sliding cancels block anim, but ur still blocking

[vestal fulcrum]

Hm, a decent Deimos

[shrewd ledge]

Guys i need experienced psykers here how good is this?

[vestal fulcrum]

Decent, albeit that Cloud Radius dump stat is a bit sad

You could change the perks to something else and make it somewhat usable, still

[shrewd ledge]

Flak/maniac?

[vestal fulcrum]

Any combination of Flak/Maniac/Unyielding/Crit chance is probably good

[shrewd ledge]

Aight thanks a bunch ^^

[vestal fulcrum]

Go with whichever you like better

[grand yoke]

Is there any reason to use the Obscurus mk II over the Deimos or Illisi force swords?

[vestal fulcrum]

Currently? Somewhat objectively: no.

It’s supposed to be a force army knife

But it’s just a funny obese toothpick right now

[cold geode]

Deimos is good for unyielding and carapace especially with uncanny strike, since soul blaze is buffed by the perks on your melee weapons.

You can peel all the armor off a burning crusher and watch it die

And you can heavy poke 2 to their face and knock them down.

[kindred ivy]

look obscurus aint that bad

it can kiss basically any elite with a l1 combo.

and has acess to deflector

paired with 20* block efficiency on the weapon + trinkets of block efficiency

u can basically be a tank

[glossy ember]

damn it be kissing elites?

[kindred ivy]

it can deal with them pretty fine

i nevet had a problem

to clear hordes is a bit more finiky but it goes like
Light , Heavy -> block to reset combo , repeat

it clears decently

never had a problem with obscurus, i dont even use the empowered mode

[kindred ivy]

this is mine obscurus

[spice veldt]

still a fine weapon, but there's no particular reason to use the obscurus over the other two in terms of performance

[upbeat inlet]

Hey, i'm just starting making psyker
I was wondering, is the ( SMITE BUILD ) good

Cause i'm making one

[ionic needle]

Which smite build are you thinking of?

[kindred ivy]

EP smite shirek is pretty powerufll

pair it with a elite killer and you will do fine most of the matches

its a very VEEERY safe build in terms of peril, taking dmg, helping teammates

unlike basic smite EP smite does okdmg, and clears hordes by itself. (which is usually the complain ppl have when smiet stuns a horde but kills nothing)

i personally run EP smite, flame shriek with a revolver.

[past light]

family is everything SAH

[cosmic sigil]

Same. People never complain when I put the elite pack on pause.

[kindred ivy]

its a very safe build, peopel also dont complen when the same elite is fucking obliterated by a revolver shot

[left dagger]

i dont have Warp Nexus nor Surge IV, which one should i strip and place on the other?

[cosmic sigil]

I can relate lol.

[summer prairie]

the image shows you have nexus iv

[cosmic sigil]

It's kinda like chorus on the zealot. It's a NO I DON'T

[kindred ivy]

remove sustained, fire, add in surge, remove stamina add in flak dmg

[left dagger]

oh neat you're right i arleady have nexus

[left dagger]

so strip Surge on the second?

[kindred ivy]

yeah

[left dagger]

will do thanks

[kindred ivy]

that charge rate at 80% is nice

blast radius on VS is not as important , but hey cant complain either

[left dagger]

if only crit is 5%, nearly perfect

[kindred ivy]

the VS explosion doesnt do much (but makes the projectile itself bigger)

i have warp nexus 3 on mine

but am running scriers, DD, crit aura and talent

that thing there FUCKS HARD

btw, great staff u got

[left dagger]

thanks, just need to get Flak on it now

[worthy relic]

best smite build?

[vagrant cedar]

one that you won't die with

[worthy relic]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4f3ef5-f2a4-4e65-9a68-babe141690ef/fuplaayz-smite-patch-15

this?

[vagrant cedar]

dude, no one knows how much you suck at psyker, or how good you are, try it and decide for yourself

there is no best for everyone

[ionic needle]

The best one is the one you're having the most fun with

[fluid aspen]

Which stat isn't that important on dueling swords?

[kindred ivy]

i prefer shriek

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9adc2137-9c76-4c0b-bab2-c6f84aaf8f77/gun-psycher-is-objectivelly-better

try this, its a bit more offensiev, and saves a lot of peril for more smiting,

[ionic needle]

Phew, finally got the zero damage taken penance

[gleaming belfry]

now your diggus really is bickus!

[eager mantle]

I believe cleave because it doesn't cleave well anyways

Or mobility if you don't mind.

[worthy relic]

smte doesnt do tooo much dmg

[fluid aspen]

Thanks

[trim valve]

Smite + venting shriek can hurt hordes quite a bit.

Quite weird to use it with shield, the enemies are already stunned, why have a shield too?

[ionic needle]

Yeah let's pretend I didn't run a few games on malice to get it, totally got it in auric maelstrom

[gleaming belfry]

yes of course!

[left dagger]

welp shield ogryn costed game shield plop down not actually drawing aggro so i cant voidstrike

[main jolt]

dont you need to push with the shield to draw aggro

[ionic needle]

You need to block or push with it. Or if they're running the taunt ability they could use that. I always get confused seeing shieldgryns using the special on anything but bosses, like what's even the point just standing there??

[main jolt]

i've tried and push/block with the shield doesnt seem to draw boss aggro

only the taunt itself does that

[ionic needle]

Yeah and the special doesn't stop you from getting eaten by beast or grabbed by spawn. It's really only great if you get aggro on a DH.

I can see it being somewhat useful if you get caught out by a line of ranged enemies though, since blocking shots taunts them too. It won't force elites to go melee, but shooters will do that.

[left dagger]

yeah the ogryn just plops shield down then proceeds to get grabbed by spawn while rest of us have to fight both spawn and 3+ crushers

[hasty breach]

smite + EP + venting shriek if you want to go all in

[plucky flax]

But smite warp charges let you vent more.

[hasty breach]

my build tree doesnt have the points to get that far to the left xD

[vale nacelle]

EP smite is a trap

[rare arrow]

^

Smite EP is definitely worse than smite and warp stack charges

EP however is great with the other two blitz.

You don’t need to deal more damage with smite it already holds hordes infinitely by just releasing before 100% and knocking them down. You can quell most of your peril before they’re up and do it again

[hasty breach]

is EP actually good with assail?

it seems underwhelming

[plucky flax]

[trim valve]

It always surprises me people think the big part of smite EP is the extra damage and not the 50% faster spread, about assail after the nerfs assail + EP feels kinda mandatory.

In a perfect world, faster spread is irrelevant but we don't play in a perfect world.

[spice veldt]

ye

it's a minor bump to its base damage, weakspot damage, and doubles its target limit

but it's also boring depending on how much you currently enjoy spamming assail

[ionic needle]

I find myself pretty much only using assail to snipe dd targets or quickly clearing out a blob of zombies. At least on my gunker build.

[rare arrow]

20 shot gunners walk out of a door and I just slam the left click

The amount of times I throw 20 consecutive darts is nuts

Assail EP feels incredible

Though, I only play aurich Damnation missions. So I have a lot of elites in my games

[rare arrow]

I can comfortably say I’ve never been smiting and thought “man, this doesn’t chain fast enough”. 400 psyker hours (all after talents) and that part of EP has been entirely irrelevant for me

[trim valve]

I'm very glad for you, I've been in that position before because you know you can't really control how it bounces after you start using it so the moment anything unexpected comes from behind that wan'ts to bonk you it is what it is.

[rare arrow]

I did abuse smite EP when surge had the bug for a while. It was crazy boring but so strong

[rare arrow]

If it’s behind you you’re not smiting it anyways

[trim valve]

Ahh, 50% faster spread makes quite a big difference.

[fluid aspen]

[rare arrow]

BasicLly perfect

[trim valve]

I like smiting targets fast, shrieking to kill hordes and finish off what ever is left. Never had a single guy complain about me doing no damage with smite.

[rare arrow]

53% so you got the extra dodge

[rare arrow]

I almost exclusively run bubble shield with smite

[trim valve]

Why???

[rare arrow]

Smite them to the floor then voidstrike or trauma for mob clear

4 back to back games with 800k damage or more in each last night with that exact build

Venting smite isn’t that good

[trim valve]

Ugggh

[fluid aspen]

Purg then smite and wait for them to

[rare arrow]

Smite knocks down all enemies it’s shocking when you cancel it

[rare arrow]

This is also good

[flint plover]

Yeah, you don't need to hold them in place with smite to effectively CC them. they get knocked down after about a second

[rare arrow]

Before they get up you can quell almost all of your peril

[trim valve]

I rather have them kill but you do you.

[rare arrow]

Right? Smite to put them on the ground then staff them

[fluid aspen]

Only problem is anything beyond 5 meters if you bring Purgatus and Smite

[rare arrow]

I’m not trying to spend half a match channeling smite lol

[flint plover]

i only spam smite when it's a gigantic crowd of crushers and maulers and ragers and I don't want any to escape lol

[rare arrow]

Bubble shield means they don’t matter lol

[rare arrow]

I smite them for 1 second to stun them, then voidstrike or trauma the mobs to death

[trim valve]

Are you at least using the crit variant of the trauma to set everything on fire?

[rare arrow]

You want slaughterer and uncanny strike or

The other one

[rare arrow]

Ofc

I don’t like tending flurry tbh

Deflector

Couldn’t remember the other blessing name lol

Slaughterer and deflector or uncanny strikes

[trim valve]

You are a very interesting individual, but I admire your passion for psyking. God speed

[rare arrow]

Scrier’s is bad aside from gunker builds, imo.

[fluid aspen]

Do force swords also have that dumb restriction of each sword having their own blessing pool so you need to get them separately for each?

[flint plover]

no

[fluid aspen]

[rare arrow]

It deals noticeably less damage than the burn variant at the added benefit of others dealing more damage

I’d rather deal more than trust my team will hit what matters

Oh, ignore me then. I’m a gunker hater 😦

[fluid aspen]

I'm a space wizard goddamit, why would I be carrying around a gun

[rare arrow]

Someone who plays gunker will be way more helpful

[rare arrow]

This

If I wanted to run around with a gun or melee weapon I’d drop another 500 hours on zealot.

I’m here to be a fucking wizard

I think the new revolver is good

I heard the new revolver is good

Yea I only use dueling sword for melee

I understand why you would use the others, I just think they aren’t as good for my play style.

The only enemy dueling sword doesn’t deal with us a bulwark.

And we have so many ways to deal with those anyways

I use the mk4

It’s lights are sweepy enough, and deals with hordes fine for me.

Though I’m not trying to melee 100 enemies with it either, I’m a wizard after all

Heavies from your DS will 4 shot mauler and 4 or 5 hit crusher

Also can one shot muties. Back to work for me tho

O/

[flint plover]

i like to imagine it as you casting a spell

"I cast trip!" crusher fucking eats it

[glossy ember]

take that back

[hasty breach]

so i could replace precog with flesh tearer and unarmored with unyielding and be a scary boss stabber

thoughts?

[tacit bobcat]

another 2 weeks of vets getting cool premium drip and we get toilet bowls...

why go on

[rare arrow]

No

[rare arrow]

Also the new toilet bowl broke the original skin that this is a recolor of

[glossy ember]

[tacit bobcat]

real?

get bloodthirsty instead

[rare arrow]

Yes

It turns it black and no longer matches

[rare arrow]

So if you throw on the original set the helmet is way different than the rest

And zealot’s cosmetic blocks your vision with your sleeves

[tacit bobcat]

auuh man..

[tacit bobcat]

wtf

i was expecting just a little bit

[outer vessel]

So, before I get to 30, I wanted to ask

Does that one talent that improves warp damage by killing enemies with non-warp stack off just normal attacks from a force sword

I imagine it would

[vast olive]

what is the best way to use the psyker class?

[tacit bobcat]

yep

[rare arrow]

There are a ton of ways to use the psyker

[outer vessel]

with a keyboard and mouse

or a controller

[vast olive]

Mid - long range?

[rare arrow]

There is no best

[outer vessel]

obviously

[tacit bobcat]

anything that doesnt give off bluelight is considered normal

[rare arrow]

Psyker can do everything so just pick what you want to do

[vast olive]

Ew..... gross

[rare arrow]

The pinned guide has a lot of information

[tacit bobcat]

the way where you kill a lot of heretics

[vast olive]

Im trying to figure a best way for it

[outer vessel]

man, everytime I see someone's controller turning ass, they're playing like cavemen

I just can't with consolers imo lol

[vast olive]

.......

Welp heres my favorite phrase

[outer vessel]

who

[vast olive]

eat shit and die

consoles rule

[outer vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-24688521

[kindred ivy]

the extra damage on EP smite is pretty substantial

[outer vessel]

oh no

he said the phrase

[kindred ivy]

the faster spread ofc helps too.

[tacit bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/trí-sad-rain-gif-17443576

its over.

[vast olive]

i mean

The vet is basically semi long range

[outer vessel]

feels like it prevents enemies from breaking out of smite stun at random too

[vast olive]

Zeal is close

[outer vessel]

Vet is also melee

[vast olive]

Ogryn is in you face close

[outer vessel]

wdym

[kindred ivy]

normal smite is just CC< EP smite can clear hordes by itself, has faster spread. etc etc its pretyt nice.

ogryn is fun

but i am horrible at that class

too beeg for me

[vast olive]

But psy is weird to me

[tacit bobcat]

the fun thing about psyker is that it can cover pretty much all ranges

it just needs more skill than the rest of the classes

[outer vessel]

gunluggers are a different breed of ogryn

[tacit bobcat]

(unfortunately)

[outer vessel]

the damage they put out is wild

[tacit bobcat]

i wanna do gungryn but erm...

i need 20k plasteel to make it crazy

[outer vessel]

erm 🤓

[tacit bobcat]

erm.. 🤓

[outer vessel]

you need a lot more than 20k

[tacit bobcat]

20k minimum yeah

[outer vessel]

because fuck you

[tacit bobcat]

because fatshark is so nice 😈

[rare arrow]

I wrote a Reddit tldr, sec

[outer vessel]

you won't get your godroll and you will like it

man, when will they realize their crafting system sucks and is still kind of undercooked

diamantine is useless

[tacit bobcat]

never. its over.

gg.

[outer vessel]

gg

[rare arrow]

My write up is too long to post here

[outer vessel]

whatd you get written up for

were you late to work

[rare arrow]

Lol no someone asked how to play psyker on Reddit

So I wrote them my favorite build for each blitz

[outer vessel]

oh ok

dont be late for work tho

thats bad

[rare arrow]

ZeroTurtle asked essentially the same question here

[vast olive]

Dm me

[rare arrow]

I don’t have a set time to be at work, so I can’t really ‘be late’

Sent

There is also a lot of good information in the guide in the pins, it has some example builds as wel

This

[vast olive]

Thx

[olive ember]

do note overall its good but when you get into the fine print some stuff are up to debate

[rare arrow]

Agreed

Someone asked how good it is and I compared it with my most common builds and I mostly agree with the guide

Though, when you get down to the point that I disagree you’re probably not following a guide anyways it’s all opinion and preference at that point

[olive ember]

pretty much

apparently precog is probably the only thing that can be super like concretely tested

I was talking to zealots yesterday and they were like "precog is great"

[sacred crane]

which keystone should i use for smite + shield

[olive ember]

smite + shield?

what do you value more

EP makes your smite do decent enough damage to horde clear

warp charges gives CDR to shield while also providing warp resist for smite

[sacred crane]

CDR does sound nice, rn im using ep since its the closest keystone

[olive ember]

both work

EP is kinda one note but 125% more damage to smite means you can actually clear trash with it semi quickly

Warp charges are a conditional damage increase, waro resistance, and CDR, so its good if you use staffs alot and you want to spam shields

do not that warp charges are a point dump tho

[near wyvern]

I used EP for smite + dome hard mode twins but normally I run creeping flames and soulblaze talents + warp siphon if I want to do smite build

[olive ember]

btw @near wyvern idk if you want to test precog more, but apparently in zealot chat they value precog alot. Atleast on knifes, they consider precog a better mercy killer and on par or better than riposte etc.

[zinc phoenix]

I just don’t see why you’d use EP smite when you could be using WC fire shriek smite

The damage boost from always having max peril shrieks on cd with crazy fast cd >>>> the minor boost to damage EP brings smite

[olive ember]

I mean the guy who was asking is using shield

[zinc phoenix]

Shield bad tbh

[olive ember]

based

but he asked which keystone to use with smite+shield so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc phoenix]

Reee

If I were gonna do shield with something it’d be assail into empower

[olive ember]

I just wouldn't use shield kekw

any time I would bring shield I'd rather take shriek

[zinc phoenix]

Well yeah 😂

Every time I see people doing shield they do ok in the lower intensity stuff but get their clocks clean when the mega hordes show up

[rare arrow]

Bottom left keystone

[zinc phoenix]

And it’s just oodles of crusher and rager

[olive ember]

shield is probably used by more people tbf

[rare arrow]

It’s very strong

[balmy flax]

Anyone know if dumping warpcharges for ult cd will become optional?
I rarely use my ult because of it. The dmg and less peril is huge.

[olive ember]

if you listen to reddit they act like psykers can't survive if they can't get shield

nope its no longer optional

you always dump warp charges when you use your ability

if you take warp charges

[zinc phoenix]

Using WC to supercharge your ult is like the whole point

[balmy flax]

The whole point for me is alot more dmg and less peril for staff spam

[olive ember]

I mean you can hold on to get your damage boost but I'd argue using your ult alot probably does more

[balmy flax]

Had a hope at balance patch launch they might change this but its been a while now

[olive ember]

idk why they made dumping warp charges a mandatory thing, used to be optional and you could actually build around warp charges giving damage

but eh

I mostly use it with fire stuff tho so I'm used to it atleast since old AB used to do the same without the CDR

[zinc phoenix]

Because it was strictly inferior to just spamming your boosted ult on cooldown?

[near wyvern]

The problem with precog is you need an enemy to attack you in the first place. For zealots this ain't as much of an issue as they are constantly sprinting and spamming M1, so they don't stagger a thing but trigger dodges often.

For Psykers you want to be spamming the push attack, which means you are gonna spam push as well, which means you are gonna stagger everything in front of you. Which means you are gonna interrupt all the incoming attacks, which means you cannot trigger precog & riposte unless you are fighting:

• monstrosities (mainly plogryn or captain)
• ranged units from afar (in which case you would have to close the gap and they just pull out their melee...
• crushers, bulwakrs or maulers
• a charging mutant

[olive ember]

Idk in my experience the knife push attacks only stagger and hit stuff directly in front of you, but in practice when theres poxwalkers around you n stuff i think its not that hard to get a dodge off

then again I play kinda aggressive but

¯_(ツ)_/¯ idk how the typical psyker playes

But yeah i guess it depends, and tbf the one which matters is uncanny

[balmy flax]

I like shield ult, nonspherical and I find its up when I need it, do not need tons of cdr. I need peril and damage more. And now I instead find I dont drop ults when they would benefit a little because charges also benefit.
Tempts me to just completely drop warp charges and not have the hassle.
Something perhaps more players than me are annoyed about, what do I know. This is partly why I bring it up.

[zinc phoenix]

all these words… smells like… HERESY!!!!

I’ve been doing a lot of bb/shriek/WC/blaze trauma lately in auric damn and it has been entertaining

[balmy flax]

Also using trauma blaze, is fun. Find it more responsive than purge staff and the knockdown and hooking around cover is nice

[near wyvern]

Yup, but flesh tearer also is a huge boost against anything larger than a human

Especially since it enjoys that uncanny as well

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

Featuring Warp Siphon obviously

[zinc phoenix]

With EP or WC? The fire talents I definitely love with smite, it’s a great combo

[near wyvern]

Warp Siphon so no EP

You want the inner tranq + in fire reborn for smiting forever

[zinc phoenix]

Ok so standard fire shriek smite

I don’t personally ever want to smite more than the few seconds for the knockdown

Unless I’m building peril for a shriek

[indigo rain]

How do you guys farm your staff passives? I've not seen any in melks or from my drops

[olive ember]

buy brunts

upgrade them to gold

rinse and repeat

thats how I do it

something something upgrade higher base stat staves (350+) blah blah all conjecture

theres nothing concrete

[zinc phoenix]

I’m honestly really lazy about farming up weapons

As long as they’re ok I consider it good enough 😂

[indigo rain]

Haha yea, I'm expecting a crafting update eventually so good enough weapons for variety is fine for me

[indigo rain]

I didn't want to do this I'm kinda mat starved, sucks they don't share their perks

[tacit bobcat]

if u want to just farm tier 3 perks and occasionally get tier 4's just buy whites from brunt and upgrade them to blue instead of transcendent spamming. much less material intensive (320-350plasteel vs. 900+plasteel)

[shadow wigeon]

Anecdotal but I did another run of 20 sub 360's this week to gold (Illisi's for low warp res), and rolled 0 T4's. Pretty accustomed to 360+ rolling at least a T4, 90% of the time? It was a bit surprising.

I've got mats to burn really, what would be a worthwhile test you think

Would be nice to put that one to bed sometime

[olive ember]

idk you would need a huge sample size and like a bunch of variations in terms of base rating and then theres the stupid "is there is there a difference between blue and gold" and blah blah

[shadow wigeon]

Well just have to record every upgrade detail. I did it a few months ago to 50 items.

but ive got 250K plasteel doing nothing now

[olive ember]

I think you would need thousands per rating tbh

from like 320-370 atleast

idk tho theres like a way to calculate what is statistically significant but

eh

[shadow wigeon]

Nah, not statistically, and once you find a breakpoint if there is one that's sufficient.

[olive ember]

im not a stats magor

but yeah

[shadow wigeon]

I play one on tv, I'll have to research a bit how to calculate error.... see if its viable

Making a darktide spreadsheet is better than work anyway

[shadow wigeon]

I'm wondering what weapon it would make the most sense for.... ideally 2 weapons with very different blessing distros... like Surge Staff for very restricted pool, and then compare to something else that will need a lot more runs on.

[dapper raft]

voidstrike staff best?

[shadow wigeon]

Void/Trauma/Surge are all very strong, Purg is strong.

[dapper raft]

i found out about surges lightning

yeah man that does work

[olive ember]

🤔 honestly probably yea

it also doesn't have weird things like surge which only shows up as a t4 blessing

or blazing spirit which only shows up as a t3 blessing

[shadow wigeon]

Run n Gun, Focused Channeling, just gonna have to account for it

some model that counts them as T2/T3, or ignores them.
Surge probably will show patterns the quickest though

[fluid aspen]

What am I rolling? Or is this just in the bin?

Does the Riposte crit chance also stay if I change weapons?

[olive ember]

Perks are bleh but otherwise it’s salvageable

Both riposte and rampage are aight, choose one to replace with uncanny strike 4

[fluid aspen]

Just checked I need riposte for my build, so I'll be rolling Rampage to Uncanny, then one of the perks

[olive ember]

Replace one of the perks with maniac or specialist or wte

Probably roll one of the perks to hit the one shot mutie breakpoint

So maniac or specialist

[fluid aspen]

[olive ember]

I forget which hits the breakpoint

Go with maniac that’s what the guide says

[fluid aspen]

Cheers

I need to find a tier 4 uncanny still

[rare arrow]

We need ways to upgrade them

So many T4 I’ve been waiting on forever

[rare arrow]

I’d reroll riposte to uncanny strikes, and 8% melee damage to maniac

Weapon seems good

Does anyone do twins speed runs for plasteel? Seems way faster then a normal mission and you can just die as soon as twins starts to go again

[split oxide]

• being hammered by crusher-pack
• sweet child was there purg-ing group of crushers all surrounding our corpses.
  if I had my mic working, I wouldve advised them... but I wouldve been swearing too.
  what was suprising was: damnation.

[long wharf]

alas, it used to be better

honestly, surge staff needs to hit number of enemies based on charge and deal full damage to all enemies hit

there's no good reason for it to do less damage past the first enemy hit

[olive ember]

Damnation randoms aren’t that good

They are just better than heresy and malice randos

[untold widget]

if you die you get reduced plasteel, which is already only 275 per run, so likely 120-125 plasteel per run that takes between 15 and 20 minutes. Counter to that a quick damnation run that gives ~800 plasteel if you focus on finding all of it that takes usually around 26 minutes.

[long wharf]

well, 26 minutes is hardly "quick"

[untold widget]

you'd have to do like 6 runs in 30 minutes to even get close to a regular damnation run

[long wharf]

fastest you can run any mission is the assassination mission with the orange-ish mission thumbnail

and on damnation that's gonna take you at least 12~13 minutes

[untold widget]

it really depends on the randos you get, if they're half decent then 25 minutes is about average assuming you're clearing all the corners and opening all the boxes

[long wharf]

yeah

and you aren't running that mission in 12 minutes if you're checking every box

the constant player complaints of lacking plasteel is really a symptom of the broken crafting system design/implementation

has been since it released post-release

[untold widget]

if you could turn in diamantine into plasteel, there would be no problems

[shadow wigeon]

It's gotten worse since Patch 13, the average plasteel per mission has gone way down... new players do not pickup nearly as much loot.

[long wharf]

well, not no problems, but certainly less

the crafting system is still more slot machine than actual crafting

[untold widget]

yeah

[long wharf]

crafting implies purposefully designing what you want, spending materials to get it

[untold widget]

if getting a 380 with the proper stat weight cost 500k dockets and 5k plasteel flat, I would never complain about crafting again

[long wharf]

honestly, two things would immediately make the current system bearable - conversion option between diamantine and plasteel, and a way to unlock all slots on gear

let me reroll the base stats using diamantine (but keep total base score)

or unlock a slot either with diamantine or a special mat that only drops in aurics

[untold widget]

just give me sliders and a point buy system and let me weight the stats I want, get the fuck out of here with rolling stats

[long wharf]

FartShack seems intent on keeping the randomization

the community had to do a lot of complaining just to get a second rollable slot on gear

[untold widget]

still

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

FartShack has proven, at least to me, that it is still learning how to write basic code, let alone a complete game with interoperating systems/mechanics, with Darktide

[untold widget]

just give sliders and scale the cost based on the weapon produced. all 80's in the stats you want? gonna cost a cool million and 5500 plasteel

still have to play a lot to get the coin and mats to make the stuff, so they get their way

[long wharf]

or keep the 380 max (for now) and allow us to raise a stat to cap with diamantine, the cost scaled by the points gained

give us something, all we want is real agency

let us upgrade a blessing's tier without it counting as a rerolled slot

FartShack's shortsightedness is absolutely staggering

[untold widget]

or give us red weapons with all max tier perks and blessings

[split oxide]

Let FatShark do what they want.
Stop being that 20% that make 80% of the noise.
I'm not happy with some of their stuff. But it's their choice.

[untold widget]

like in VT2

[long wharf]

this is a really stupid take

who here has the power to force FartShack to do anything? raise your hands.

people complaining is how the community signals to the devs what the devs are doing wrong

for a standalone, single player game, it's somewhat pointless

[untold widget]

let me just buy a few million dollars of stock here right quick

[split oxide]

Do you feel like you're that 20%?

[long wharf]

but for a game like Darktide? where the devs have called it "live service"?

[dark plank]

what counts as warp charges for the Warp Battery penance after the skill rework?

[long wharf]

we have absolutely the right and responsibility to tell the devs what they're doing wrong

[split oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[long wharf]

feel free to lay there and accept the beatings

I want the game to be better

[untold widget]

politicians love people like that, just lie back and let me do what I want

[long wharf]

and FartShack has shown to be listening, despite how slowly they make changes

[fallow yacht]

I'm looking at - Rashad, Trauma, Burst, Shriek, Soulblaze, Crit, high Toughness recovery - build...
What do I want for trinkets? I'd guess Toughness (major) + Toughness + combat ab. regen. + ...? hp? or some other combination entirely?

[olive ember]

It’s up to you

[untold widget]

An axe psyker? A rare find

[ripe yacht]

What would you suggest doing? Because when there's a group of crushers, I'll absolutely roast them. I think I even have +carapace specifically for this. Not as great as surge, but when you have fire…

[olive ember]

Most people run 2 toughness 1 hp

I just run 3 hp and end up with 90 toughness

[untold widget]

carapace reduces soulfire damage by a factor of 20

[long wharf]

I run 2 hp, +3 stamina

[untold widget]

just stab them a few times in the face with a Dueling sword

[long wharf]

I like sliding all over Tertium at max speed with my DS

[olive ember]

Toughness regen is mid imo despite what the guide says

[vocal iron]

i have found the blessing finally

[ripe yacht]

That's great for a singleton, but roasting the whole group feels… much more effective than stabbing them one at a time.

[untold widget]

ayyyyyyy

[olive ember]

But I also run it down a lot more Than the guide author I think so I naturally value toughness regen less since it doesn’t activate when enemies are near

[long wharf]

toughness regen has been far outweighed by stamina regen since the talent tree release (patch 13)

[ripe yacht]

(Please educate me, Oh Wise Ones)

[long wharf]

it's so easy to get toughness back now that you'll never notice the toughness regen increase in combat

[olive ember]

Purge against crushers is a bit jank

[shadow wigeon]

Also Psyker has many ways to generate toughness

[untold widget]

your 15 stacks of soulfire that should be doing 250 damage per tick are only doing like 12. It's absolutely not worth doing on Crushers

[olive ember]

You have to spam fire into them and then swap to ds and stack uncanny before the fire falls off

[long wharf]

crushers are there to be stabbed

or shot with void

or shocked with surge

[ripe yacht]

Hmm.

[long wharf]

or knocked around with trauma

[untold widget]

like literally knife lights are more effective than soulfire on crushers

[long wharf]

I prefer to stab with a mk4 dueling sword with uncanny strike

[olive ember]

You can spam fire into crushers but it only works if are able to quickly get rending stacks up

[shadow wigeon]

Check the damage table for Carapace damage on Purgatus. It does not affect Crushers really.

[long wharf]

knives with rending on backstab make short work of basically everything

[olive ember]

Otherwise no point

[long wharf]

it's a little OP right now

[ripe yacht]

Well, I'll give it a shot. Thank ye kindly 🙂

[olive ember]

Does it? I don’t think it’s that good

[untold widget]

yeah, it's like 3-4 stabs depending on Warp Rider buff, which you can do very quickly with DS4

[olive ember]

I prefer uncanny

[long wharf]

two good stabs with the DS heavy

[olive ember]

Since it means I don’t need to get behind the enemy

[long wharf]

even on damnation, as long as they're crits

[olive ember]

If lucky you can kill them in 2

[long wharf]

but the DS heavy has poor cleave

[olive ember]

If you have crit n all that

[long wharf]

so facing multiple crushers face-on with a DS isn't the best option

[untold widget]

usually what I do is H1 Special stab, repeat

[drifting violet]

Quick question: Is there any particular advantages that a combat knife would have over a dueling sword?

[untold widget]

speed

[long wharf]

combat knife can stack up bleed stacks stupid fast

[drifting violet]

fair

[long wharf]

and rend armor to nothing (for you)

[drifting violet]

faster then zealot?

[untold widget]

I use knife when I'm hunting plasteel as a main activity

[long wharf]

psyker doesn't have any particular benefit from bleeding targets, though

[long wharf]

no, but even still, still a viable option

not one I'd run on a psyker, myself

psyker is just a little too squishy for me to want to be melee range outside of heavy petting stabbing

[drifting violet]

That's fair. Just got a good roll recently, and wanted to see someone else's experience with knives on a psyker.

[long wharf]

frankly, psyker class is in a really good place right now

[olive ember]

Bleed is

Kinda weird

The only time it’s good is on ogryn iirc

[long wharf]

there are a couple things I'd change or like to see added, but overall, plenty of good variety in truly viable builds

[olive ember]

Even zealot you take bleed for the crit chance not for the actual bleed

[drifting violet]

Regardless, I appreciate the help 😎 👍

gonna stab people now

[long wharf]

if you can get max bleed stacks on things, it does a lot of the work in killing quickly enough to matter

[olive ember]

The problem is most of the time if you can get max stacks of bleed the target should be dead

[untold widget]

yeah flesh tearer mk6's ability to delete a crusher with just lights is actually kind of inspiring

[long wharf]

true, and like you said, the most effective use is on the high health pool enemies (ogryns)

[olive ember]

Ik ogryns run bleed with stuff like shield because 6 stacks of bleed on everything you hit just deletes hoards

[long wharf]

but really, outside of bosses, you can effectively run bleed-via-knife on vet and zealot

psyker is iffy

[zinc phoenix]

20 death histg auric damn 😂

Teammates just wouldn’t shoot the demonic growths and staff left click is so fucking buggy with them

[plucky flax]

Zealot double bleed blessings knife is not bad.

[zinc phoenix]

So they kept dying and I had to keep rezzing people

[olive ember]

Todays randoms are

[zinc phoenix]

Fucking smelter lmao

[olive ember]

Iffy

[split oxide]

Everyone's gonna be running knife in Jan.
Once mobility is a meme; the slow ones will be left-behind/die.

[zinc phoenix]

I had over 4k kills it was absurd

[olive ember]

I failed like 3 orthus normal games in a row

And the orthus hard aren’t even worth mentioning

They were dead before 2nd transition if even that

[zinc phoenix]

Also I made the bad decision to run void instead of trauma and my ass is still chapped about it

The ability to footboom your way thru infinite hordes is so clutch

[olive ember]

I mean you can do that with voidstrike

Not to the same effect but spam explosions at your feet

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not as good for that because the boom aura is smaller

[long wharf]

yeah, void isn't good for aoe any more

it's a proper railgun now

[zinc phoenix]

Apparently you can say fucking shit but not d_ck

Mods got them priorities

[untold widget]

yeah anything remotely sexual gets auto'd

[zinc phoenix]

Anally penetrate a clown