psyker-class

[vestal fulcrum]

I have never tested these things

[fluid aspen]

I'll sacrifice some mats in the name of science

[vestal fulcrum]

I just assumed Trauma = always targets base armour type with its secondary attack blast

Void - probably hits limbs (ergo armour type applies per region hit)

Surge - hit centre of mass or base armour

Purgatus - doesn’t matter, it applies dot, and dot always targets base armour type

[fluid aspen]

Yeah voidstrike definitely targets limbs because it can hit weakspots

[vestal fulcrum]

Surge is relatively easy to confirm, because whether it hits base armour type or the centre of mass, then it will display that armour type on hit in Psykhanium

Again, no tests, I rely mostly on what “just works”

[fluid aspen]

Do the boss shields conform to any of the common armor types or are they their own thing you can't get modifiers for?

[vestal fulcrum]

IIRC somebody confirmed that twins’ shield = Flak, but IDK what happened to captains’ shields after the twins encounter was implemented

It used to be a separate armour type called “void shield”

[fluid aspen]

Seems like Trauma is hitting legs

[vestal fulcrum]

Is it?

[fluid aspen]

Hmmmm maybe not

Gunner legs are unarmored but trauma boom reports Flak

Unless I missed my sword swing

Might be chest then?

[vestal fulcrum]

Scab gunner that is?

[fluid aspen]

Bulwark has carapace on limbs, unyielding chest and head and it hits Unyielding

this bleb

That keystone passive is such a cockblock. The bonuses are great but you are essentially choosing between using your ability and the keystone buffs

[vestal fulcrum]

So Dreg. If the blast hits centre of mass, and Dreg gunner reports Flak, which corresponds to armour on his chest, then it is the centre of mass hit indeed

[fluid aspen]

Seems like it

[vestal fulcrum]

This shouldn’t matter greatly for a lot of units, though, I.e., which body part is hit

I’d say in case of Dreg Gunner, the blast hitting its body is a good thing

Because it further assures Flak is a good perk :)

[fluid aspen]

Same with bulwarks, unyielding vs carapace on the legs

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, that’s a little less thrilling

What about Reaper?

[vestal fulcrum]

Reaper = Flak chest

[spice veldt]

[fluid aspen]

[spice veldt]

it has some unyielding under that flak armor interestingly enough

i think the reaper is really the only "unusual" case for weapons that don't target a specific body part

[vestal fulcrum]

Doesn’t matter greatly - Trauma is not great at killing Reapers regardless, unless there is a bunch of them close to each other

[fluid aspen]

Honestly the only reason I'm even bothering with this is that I'm thinking of making a build for the twins. I hate trauma for pretty much anything because of the limited range

Sniping specials across the room with voidstrike will never not be satisfying. Also just firing into a horde at head level

[vestal fulcrum]

There is a lot of flak enemies in that fight. Just pick Flak - you will not be damaging the twins with the staff anyway, it’s no good for tempo

[fluid aspen]

Good thing I got Flak IV by default then

Thanks for the info

[vestal fulcrum]

Flak and Carapace are the main armour types prevalent in the fight IIRC

Carapace because twins’ and Mauler heads, and because of Crusher spawns (hard mode only?)

[plucky flax]

Wait trauma hit reaper as flak not unyielding?

[fluid aspen]

As Unyielding

[vestal fulcrum]

It hits Unyielding

[plucky flax]

I was gonna say. I know it has flak part.

But should be unyielding.

[vestal fulcrum]

But Dreg Gunner is hit for Flak, from what Lemings relayed

[plucky flax]

Yeah dreg gunner has flak body.

Same with dreg shotgunner.

Basically just pick flak for trauma so many elites have flak torso parts.

Then pick crit chance and make blaze trauma.

It's ez.

Get 80% on 3 damage staff while at it.

[fluid aspen]

I've been trying to make a build for this after seeing it posted here the other day

I'm still skeptical tho

[plucky flax]

Trust it works on all contents.

Not the best at solo clutching (a bit slow to kill shooters and specials) but it'll work.

It's difficult to play though your wrist might hurt from too much flicking.

[fluid aspen]

It kinda needs to use Brain Rupture because all the soulflame nodes are in the left, but the crit nodes on the right would make a lot more sense

[vestal fulcrum]

Blaze Trauma is the gamma grind set of Psyker

[plucky flax]

If I really want to carry I play blaze trauma. My win rate with that build is very high.

But I can't play more than 2 games in a row.

[stone totem]

BB not one shotting a burgled gunner even with EP is a touch sad

I feel like they curated its damage in the lab very specifically

[vestal fulcrum]

Burgled gunner?

[stone totem]

Nurgle blessing

[vestal fulcrum]

Ah

[fluid aspen]

BB really needs to be brought up to speed with the rest of the blitzes

[plucky flax]

Oh I actually hate playing trauma in nurgled bless.

[stone totem]

It really just needs a touch more damage

[plucky flax]

CC immuned bois make me sad.

[stone totem]

That's it, it is amazing now otherwise

[vestal fulcrum]

it could use a little damage buff

[fluid aspen]

Yeah 15% more damage and some faster casting

[stone totem]

I think the cast speed is good as is as someone who runs EP

[fluid aspen]

On Damnation there are just so many specials and elites that even with EP it's hard to keep up

[stone totem]

Feels good to really feel the benefits of resetting the stack on specials

Would be nice if specialists also gave you a free stack but I'm not gonna ask for ALL that

[fluid aspen]

That too, shame it's only Elites, not even specials

[devout robin]

issue is that it feels not-good without EP or if you're not running venting shriek and using the 'faster cast on ult' node

[fluid aspen]

Also the shield is just so incredibly strong that even when I want to run Venting I feel like I'm griefing

[devout robin]

yeah

im also a filthy disrupt destiny fan

[vestal fulcrum]

Venting is also extremely strong

(Maybe not necessarily in encounter v Twins, but it’s a fairly universal “more damage” ability)

[plucky flax]

All my psyker clears in twins have been with creeping flames.

[fluid aspen]

Yeah easy stacks of blaze too if you run a build for it

[wet belfry]

Venting shriek is op.

Its one of the best abilities in the game

[fluid aspen]

I love that it can save you from getting your head blown up

[vestal fulcrum]

I suppose it can be very good free damage whenever elites/poxwalkers spawn

But the shield is also very good in that fight, at least the bubble variety

[plucky flax]

It's good for blocking rinda then vent on elites/horde.

[fluid aspen]

Kinetic Deflection

I'm running it with a Deflector sword, it's so good

I can facetank pretty much any boss with very little effort

[plucky flax]

I have gameplay of blaze trauma at twins. Over 200k damage in 7 mins.

[fluid aspen]

Yeah I just need blaze unlocked for Trauma and I'll give it a shot too

I've seen many people swear by Dueling swords, what makes them special?

[mossy surge]

Is that the "psyker is not a good against twins" game?

[plucky flax]

Different one. But that game I also had over 200k damage.

[near wyvern]

They can deal with anything thrown at you including stopping a mutant mid charge. Combine this with high mobility and the stab stab pattern of Mk 4 duelling sword and you have also one of the highest sustained DPS melee weapons for Psykers (Shred + Uncanny Strike for blessings!)

[fluid aspen]

[left basin]

mmm

[fluid aspen]

What does the special attack on it do?

[left basin]

does voidstrike apply fire only on direct hits with blazing spirit?

[near wyvern]

Staggers everything except monstrosities on headshots and you can chain to it extremely fast after a heavy. Allows you to stop a mutant mid charge on a headshot or to keep maulers/crushers/rangers perma staggered while you take free hits at them. Which isn't many cause at full uncanny strikes you can kill a crusher in 2 heavy hits.

Also, hitting head with the special rewards you a stack of uncanny strike as well.

[near wyvern]

Directs and explosions so things that get caught with both are instantly set to 6 which is the hard cap for Blazing Spirit on staves. Still, not optimal as they reduced the explosion range a couple patches ago.

[fluid aspen]

Thanks, I'll look into getting one set up once I have some more plasteel

[left basin]

is blazauma actually any good in situations outside of being really proud of damage numbers?

because i got this

i'm not super sure about it

[near wyvern]

Amazing CC while dealing good damage. Can't go wrong with that.

Controls everything else except mutants and monstrosities

[left basin]

that a good rool or nuh

[near wyvern]

And for mutants I like to bring the one shot Deimos so you can just hold your ground if you desire

[left basin]

i heard a friend say that charge rate is eugh

[near wyvern]

No, radius is good, charge rate is painful

@left basin

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[fluid aspen]

This is what I'm trying to sort out at the moment

[near wyvern]

Either your friend is a bad friend or they are trolling

[spice veldt]

charge rate on trauma scales from 2.5 seconds to 1 second

so you want as much of that good shit as possible

[left basin]

so... is the chargerate alright?

[flint plover]

Should I change Slaughterer 2 to 4, or switch out Executor 4 for Uncanny 4?

[left basin]

i see a 78% there. 0.2 seconds seem to be not THAT big of a deal. no?

[plucky flax]

You want uncanny for sure not sure which one to switch. I run deflector uncanny on mine.

[left basin]

the 63% has a chargerate of 1.56, the 79% is 1.31

should i get this upgraded instead and roll it to nexus and some other perk?

[plucky flax]

Yeah upgrade this. Put flak on sprint and put nexus 4 on 2nd blessing

That's a good staff.

[left basin]

also

[frail harness]

Deathspitter or Fire Frenzy for IAG?

[near wyvern]

For blaze trauma hell no

[stone totem]

Why must every scab enemy take one extra brainburst 😔 Two BBs with EP for a flak rager when hordes of them spawn often is a little silly

[mossy surge]

Both

[left basin]

i'm still unsure i should switch from this. (first voidstrike drop ever back in nov2022)

[mossy surge]

Was gonna question

Since you showed the trauma staff first

[summer prairie]

Pretty good for l1 special spamming, can replace the perks with whatever

[left basin]

i'm just... umm only playing voidstrike since nov 2022

i just did orthus hardmode yesterday while pubbing with this deathstick

[mossy surge]

Trauma staff "bad"

[mossy surge]

Flak and maniac

[left basin]

i get similar numbers on void with siphon, as long as there isn't a gajillion maulers coming to inspect my roll

[mossy surge]

Just ask agent about his trauma experience

[left basin]

i will try troma

[mossy surge]

That's agent on the trauma scoreboard btw

Being selfish in war dud

The myth, the legend

[stone totem]

I wonder why they made the "land five headshots for a guaranteed crit" not apply to BB

[left basin]

which build are u running with it

[stone totem]

I mean it stacks with it but doesn't apply it

[left basin]

because in sweden it is customary to despise brainburst

[stone totem]

Atoman public transportation be like

[wide maple]

Thats just a basic psyker game wit any weapon

[jaunty schooner]

Yes pls buff trauma

[left basin]

*remove veteran

[stone totem]

I don't think director likes me today

[rich jolt]

I hope psyker gets a big deathray

Like a staff or spell

Huge time commitment to charge up and takes a lot of peril but chews through about anything

Probably would work better as a staff because bb already kind of acts like the slow long time to charge up spell

And does alot of damage

[spice veldt]

moonlight beam

[rich jolt]

Not sure what youre referencing

Is that a darksouls spell

Sounds like it

[spice veldt]

just some random name i threw out

i think the name for the elden ring spell is different

[rich jolt]

Sounds cool

[frail harness]

Well Dumdum is a given, right?

[mossy surge]

Right dumdum

[frail harness]

Yeah so the question is which becomes the second blessing

[left basin]

i've been screeching for a kamehameha for god knows how long. asked that brainburst would instead get longer cast time scaling with enemy hp

[mossy surge]

Dumdum fire

[left basin]

just imagine stacking warpbat and peril reduction then dancing around a monstrosity from 0-100% peril to nuke a big chunk out of it

[rich jolt]

I think bb is fine as is just wish it would cost less peril

That is a good idea tho

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[mossy surge]

Wait, is fire frenzy power or DMG?

[stone canyon]

Does upgraded version work for this?

[rich jolt]

Yes

Use empowered psionics to make it easier

[stone canyon]

Well im only lvl 5 👶

Just wanna get the quick cosmetics early on

[mossy surge]

Had them confused for a sec, you want power

[frail harness]

cool, death/dum it is

thx

[rich jolt]

Does deathspitter stack?

[mossy surge]

Enjoy your pewpew powered by bb gameplay

[willow parrot]

The other huge benefit of Dumdum is that you get it while actively killing an enemy instead of after

[mossy surge]

Dumdum stacks while deathspitter refresges

[willow parrot]

Deathspitter is nice because it applies at any range and isn't a "Close dmg" blessing

[rich jolt]

If you could make electric barrier better how would you?

What do you mean?

[willow parrot]

Misread what you said, my bad

[rich jolt]

Youre good

[spice veldt]

deathspitter also stacks yeah

[past light]

does the surge staff hit weakspots? wondering how worth it is the true aim talent for guaranteed critical on 5 weakspot hits as opposed to something like warp expenditure (2.5% tough for every 10% peril generated) or just plain toughness

[fluid aspen]

AFAIK it hits random bodyparts, which can also be weakpoints

[orchid shadow]

Not anymore. It always targets center mass again.

[tawny glade]

after an update, it no longer hits weakspots

it is explained in this video i was just watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2D_bwNG_0E&t=452s&ab_channel=RealAsianRobot

something else i noticed in that vid, he charges smite and can continue smiting for a long time

when i charge my smit, it ends reletively quickly and does a knock down

any idea why?

[orchid shadow]

You're ending it too early or you're at max peril with stops the smite.

[tawny glade]

im for SURE holding left click and i am not at max peril

[fluid aspen]

Roger that

[tawny glade]

i would be happy to jump into a chat and share my screen so you can see it

im at a loss

[orchid shadow]

That can't be right. Holding left should hold the charge as long as you're able.

[tawny glade]

from zero, its auto stop around 17%% peril

ive been playing this for awhile now and thought this was by design... was very confused when i saw how it works in the video

i just figured it out

i have to keep right click held as well

[orchid shadow]

Yeah, for RMB charge, you need both left and right held down

[past light]

hmm that's a different build in the video than the one I had bookmarked

I was looking at this one https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab2b95b-b03a-454a-9431-f6789133f652/auric-maelstrom-900-kill-psyker-bob-nuggy-production

basically rupture instead of smite

might just switch to the one in the video then, even though having rupture for snipers and such is useful

[shrewd night]

So the Voidstrike Force Staff is pretty much a psyker plasma gun?

[lunar quail]

this is just beyond saving correct

[eager mantle]

I mean replace terrifying with dumdum and infested with something like flak or maniac but that's the best I can see for this

[near drift]

Is there a chart somewhere to see how soulfire and other DoTs stack for damage and max amounts?

[orchid shadow]

For Soulblaze you can check here

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[near drift]

Perfect thank ya kindly

[marble wedge]

When using scriers gaze 100% peril is kind of the goal yah? and blowing up..is part of the gig?

[late night]

yes and no

it doesnt blow you up

[unreal axle]

is it just me or does the surge staff kind of suck? it's my absolute favorite, but it feels like I'm just better off using ANY of the other ones

also ran into a fun thing that I thought they fixed already, kept targeting the shield of bulwarks with the zap -.-'

[marble wedge]

ahh okay must been me tossing a spike

so ideally should be keeping gaze up

and just running around stabbing and shooting shit

[unreal axle]

yeah try to keep up gaze as long as you can but when you need to quell more than you're doing anything else just let it go, quell a bit and enjoy the bonuses from it for a few more seconds

also don't run warp charges with it, doesn't seem to work, it just eats your stacks with no CDR

[magic kayak]

Metal shields are conductive, it's a realism feature not a bug

[left basin]

hey, blaze trauma users

tell me your build

[graceful apex]

i go blaze trauma

[unreal axle]

ah yes, extreme realism for literally exploding enemies with my mind xD

[proud viper]

tips on how to complete cliffhanger? gotten 6/7, cant get 7 in one go apparently

[orchid shadow]

Surge staff is good, what are your issues with it?

[orchid shadow]

What mission are you trying to do it on?

[proud viper]

any/all

[orchid nest]

this is an old video and from when it was harder but it still holds up as far as I know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cU_jq3IAis

[proud viper]

which I know isnt good

I'll look at that

[orchid shadow]

An easy one should be Vigil Station at the ending interrogation on the bridges, or Hab Dreyko final scan location. Hab Dreyko has the infinite spawning hordes around a pit.

[orchid nest]

that one in the video is the location I did mine when it was 20 instead. it's nice to have one at the beginning of the mission

[unreal axle]

I just don't really see the benefit of using it over a voidstrike or trauma staff, I'd make quicker work out of stuff like crushers or monstrosities with a voidstrike staff, plus voidstrike absolutely crushes hordes, and just about anything else with a crit build and a surge blessing (if I could only get one :P)

trauma is also in another level of crowd control since it throws everyone around all the time and with the brittle blessing it strips armor in up to an 8.5 meter or whatever the max radius is making every enemy a lot easier to deal with, where surge is like.. "I do damage to one thing.. if I crit"

plus it builds peril so damn fast even at high warp resistance

I feel like it should build less peril, or chain to more targets or ... something, I really feel like it needs something more than what it does now

[past light]

everything looks good just missing the maniac or flak perk, keep or go again for another one?

[worthy dune]

Okay which one of you

We need to have a talk

[half iron]

the real john psyker

[orchid shadow]

Surge single target damage and CC with minimal to no need to aim. Sure, all the staves can CC a bit, but short of the enemy being a monstrosity, the Surge is the only one that can just lock something down completely if it's going to cause trouble. It's use cases and playstyle are going to be different and if that's not your bag, then that's all good. But if you're hitting your breakpoints, you the only real time you want your crits is against bulwarks and crushers. But you can still take one down in 3-4 zaps while providing CC. Surge cancel tech and jumping on your surge to target above a horde to snipe specialists helps a lot.

[unreal axle]

the heck is surge cancel tech? also do I need a specific roll or something? I need up to 5 zaps on crushers in damnation and it ain't fun

I've got warp nexus and .. something, I forget

[orchid nest]

It's also reasonable monstrosity dps for psyker now ever since the whole gibbing changes.

[orchid shadow]

Surge cancel is technique to cancel your surge early after the initial zap since the big hit comes after a prolonged zap, so the big damage comes quicker. In the time you would do 4 zaps, can do 6 and still do the same damage. The only caveat to that is for Bulwarks you can't do it since the damage doesn't register if you cancel too early. Here's my staff, and the damage it does to a Bulwark on a crit with warp charges. With crits, it'll take 2 crits plus a normal to kill it.

[unreal axle]

what do you use to cancel it?

[ionic needle]

Swap to blitz during the animation right?

[orchid shadow]

Yeah, then swap back to your staff. Done quick enough, it's shaves a chunk of time off chained casts.

[unreal axle]

I'm the type of person that hates stuff like that so I guess the weapon just isn't for me then, or I'd use it without the cancel x.x

but thanks for the help and advice :o

[orchid shadow]

It's still good without the cancel. But I find with with certain team comps, and if you're running warp charges you want to be able to snag the kills when you need it or else the zap lasts too long.. and a Plasma Vet will kill everything before you get your kill. =/

[vestal fulcrum]

My sentiment exactly

[left basin]

remove veteran

[vestal fulcrum]

If you remove Veteran, there's still revolver Psykers/Zealots or Kickback Ogryns

There is no rest for the wicked

[left basin]

remove guns

only psykers with staves and ogryns that use them as melee sticks

[ornate hamlet]

Ammo tins get replaced by the Codex Astartes

[vestal fulcrum]

screams in Loner

Aeaeagh, what did I do to deserve this?!

[ionic needle]

I use surge constantly and never do it, it's a good staff without the cancelling

[vestal fulcrum]

Whew, finally a decent result

[kindred ivy]

scrier VS does a lot of dmg

but like

very volatile

[hasty breach]

hey psykers~ i have questions about what I should be doing to max damage to monstrosities. So if I brain burst, versus, say, Purge or Blaze trauma staff, which actually results in more damage in most circumstances? (assuming not nurgle)

or should i be trying to crit its head with like a deimos or catachan or something instead

[fading depot]

Honestly I just poke them really hard with my dueling sword over and over

[glossy ember]

need flak friend, can't run surge staff without flak

[hasty breach]

I dont like the dueling sword ;_;

i look lame with my arm behind my back like that

[west fox]

Because heads aren't designed to stay attached to necks.

[plucky flax]

No slaughterer is int eresting.

[near radish]

How do you rename weapons? Just wondering.

[ripe yacht]

So, what's the vibe on Orthus HM? Any recommended builds?

Running Purg and I'm wondering if I should switch it up.

[west fox]

Ngl, I didn't even know this weapon could use Slaughterer

I'm an ogryn main and just trying to get more gear for psyker.

[west fox]

It's a mod.

[plucky flax]

Slaughterer is very good for illisi as it's a horde clear weapon.

[west fox]

It's a shame uncanny is locked in, as I'd run slaughterer with executor

How much power does Slaughterer give compared to Executor?

[plucky flax]

40% at max stack.

[west fox]

Oh wow. Yeah, I'll defo replace executor with Slaughterer if I find it

Thanks so much for the advice

[ionic needle]

Uncanny on illisi should be really good though, those vertical hits can make you slice heads constantly

[west fox]

I think I have uncanny on my other one. That's the crit one, right?

[wild elk]

behold

[west fox]

Your goals are beyond understanding

[ionic needle]

Now get surge on it so you can double blaze everything

[wild elk]

still would be bad right ?

[ionic needle]

Yeah, it's a voidstaff with 25% damage, it'll never be good

But could be meme

[west fox]

I have one ilisi with Riposte and Blazing Spirit on a SG Crit/Blaze build.

It's... A strange one. Very melee-centric and spreads fire everywhere as you slash away.

Does good damage though.

[ionic needle]

I have this lying around, I just don't like any of the force swords anymore though

[west fox]

Not bad

[near radish]

Ok.

[proven stirrup]

As much as I wanted a change of pace, I sure do hate not having my shield now

You can save so many people from going down just having this shit around

Playing anything else strikes me as what you do when you're ok with the fact of being the only person alive in a run and skilled enough to clutch

Which I'm certainly not, nor interested in trying to be within my current limitations

[marble sedge]

When did they change the force sword push attacks? Now* my dude just reaches forward and gains some Peril, doesn't even seem to really do anything.

[shadow wigeon]

They have not changed

[marble sedge]

I remember one of them having a real nice stab attack after pushing, but I can't anymore.

[shadow wigeon]

Blazing Spirit doesn't really work, unfortunately. It does not proc on kills, so in a horde you have to go for body shots to avoid kills, to get soulblaze. On single targets, it takes too long to build meaningful stacks (they're dead or you're dead).

[shadow wigeon]

Not force swords, no...

[fluid aspen]

Am I seeing it right that even Voidstrike ignores which limb you hit with the charged shot and defaults to chest armor?

Hitting a mauler in the head still counts as Flak for some reason

[marble sedge]

Was I thinking of a power sword?

[fluid aspen]

Bulwark in the arm counts as Unyielding

[shadow wigeon]

Probably. Mk6 has a very strong stab on push attack

[marble sedge]

That's probably what I'm thinking of, then.

[shadow wigeon]

Huh, yeah, I didn't realize that.

Seems like weakspot targetting doesn't work / is very particular? on some enemies.

[marble sedge]

In the psykhanium it's carapace, is it not registering outside of there?

[fluid aspen]

Do the charged shot tho

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah i get flak for head hits, no weakspot indicator.

[fluid aspen]

Voidstrike charged attack
sends image of a sword

[marble sedge]

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood xD

[shadow wigeon]

It looks like im getting Carapace weakspot damage

but it says flak/body shot

[marble sedge]

Might be the explosion.

[fluid aspen]

Can't get anything but Unyielding on Reaper arm hits either

[shadow wigeon]

I don't know the details of how charged shot registers, but it's possible its getting confused about the armor type the explosion is hitting.

The damage seems? correct to me, on mauler

[fluid aspen]

Seems like Carapace will detonate/stop the charged shot, but deal a different form of damage

It's not penetrating behind them either

But at chest level it's fine

[shadow wigeon]

Well pen is based on cleave, that's to be expected

I can't register a headshot on crushers either

[fluid aspen]

And I'm sure it has some weird interaction with weakspots still because it does a lot more damage just hitting them in the chest where it's Flak anyways

[shadow wigeon]

The damage on mauler seems correct for carapace/weakspot, I think the indicator is just wrong.

[ionic needle]

Yeah I'm not using it, just crafted it for some meme build a long time ago

[shadow wigeon]

Likewise, Crusher records a weakspot, but the indicator doesn't show it.

[shadow wigeon]

Cool, just making sure. A lot of people get their hopes up and it is a disappointment.

[fluid aspen]

So what tf do I build for then

[wheat plaza]

about accurate

[shadow wigeon]

It has some hypothetical application to elites, but it's a risky investment.

[shadow wigeon]

It seems like it's functioning correctly, just reporting the wrong armor type - im guessing because of the explosion.

[west fox]

Sorry, my answer wasn't exactly useful. It's a mod called Name It.

[fluid aspen]

If I had some more plasteel I'd roll to see which one gets amplified

[marble sedge]

Why is Kinetic Presence so limited? +5% damage, but only against elites? Seems really weak.

[shadow wigeon]

I suspect any more and you'd probably get into too many breakpoints for the team.

[shadow wigeon]

You actually just inspired me to try it on my Surge build

[near radish]

U good.

[true wave]

should I swap the carapace damage out here?

[turbid marten]

So for the psyker penance "Prioritise targets" I /HAVE/ to take brainburst, huh?

[shadow wigeon]

Yes

[true wave]

to flak?

[shadow wigeon]

Flak is the easy choice. +crit can ge good as well

[untold verge]

for the force sword is first target important

[ornate hamlet]

Yep

[untold verge]

yep cause?

[ornate hamlet]

Because you need to kill shit

Damage aids in that most holy task

[left basin]

@near wyvern surge firefart build is probably the most fun i've had in this game since idk. thanks

maybe when void was op-ey on release

[shadow wigeon]

Damage/First Target/Finesse all play a role in damage on force swords, depending a bit on which sword and what you want to do with it.

[ionic needle]

I'd say it's not insanely important on illisi since you mostly use it for horde clear

[strong gulch]

First target hasn't worked on illisi special forever.

It's an important stat on Deimos.

[ornate hamlet]

Huh

RIP illisi

[cloud heron]

Thank you Mr. Melk

[ornate hamlet]

REAL AND TRUE

[ionic needle]

Columnus with the mk 6 dagger and gaze is just crazy fun

Really hard to maintain ammo on auric maelstrom without a vet though

[strong gulch]

[quasi grotto]

[bleak tulip]

fun fact, ortus offensive only spawns scabs 😔

[strong gulch]

So I shouldn't pick that one.

I'll leave now.

[grand shoal]

what perks do we put on purgatus?

[bleak tulip]

the times I tried as psyker I was doing the most work, which really says something about the average pub group

[gilded wind]

every time i had a psyker on my team we wiped

[bleak tulip]

every time I had a vet on my team we wiped

kinda doesnt meant anything

[gilded wind]

the invis vets suck

like yes go invis and let all the aggro go on the one person who cant

then when he goes down res him while invis so he dies instantly before he can block

then run out of invis and die because your build sucks

[strong gulch]

perks are flak + crit chance / maniac

Blessings are flurry + nexus

[grand shoal]

i read that crit chance doesn't apply to soulblaze, i guess thats not true?

maybe idk what i'm asking though

also why flak

[strong gulch]

Crits apply 2 stacks of SB instead of one.

[grand shoal]

i need to find a place that defines all these weird ass terms

[strong gulch]

There is the Atheneum up in the pinned messages.

[bleak tulip]

soulblaze itself cant crit, thats probably what you read

[strong gulch]

They should just be explained in the games instead of leaving us to wonder.

[grand shoal]

see i didn't know it was going to lock the other perk when i replaced one

fucking irritating

[strong gulch]

🥲

[ornate hamlet]

Skill issue on the rest tbh

[lost junco]

Terrifying Barrage a good blessing to have on Surge Force Staff?

[hasty breach]

not usually. i would try to get warp nexus and warp flurry

surge needs a lot of crit and attack speed

[strong gulch]

No.

Only do terrible barrage if you are trying to meme REALLY hard by only doing LMB spam.

[lost junco]

oh heavenly lord, lead me not into temptation

should first get a actual good staff before I start memeing

[strong gulch]

good idea

[grand shoal]

ok and what perks do we like for trauma?

[hasty breach]

there's two forms of trauma -- i recommend looking at the psyker atheneum guide on steam or pinned here.

but i think flak and maniac are popular for trauma that does NOT try to get soulblaze stacks (fire trauma)

if only becaues thats most randoms and specials around

[zinc phoenix]

When you want to change a skill in your tree dupe the tree with the + button and then make changes, much safer

[urban sandal]

flak, the second perk can be maniac, carapace or crit chance depending on how you want to build it

[late night]

is it worth dropping shred for rampage on dueling sword for better horde clear

[vast yew]

2nd blessing on a DS4 is kind of personal preference. Rampage will be slightly better at horde clear than Shred but Shred helps proc Mettle/Perfect Timing and helps with Boss DPS. Up to you what you want more.

[untold widget]

lmb spam has so much suppression that TB doesn't have a measurable effect

[strong gulch]

Yes it does. In melee range.

[ornate hamlet]

Murder and mayhem

I recommend shred over rampage on ds4 because ideally you're already having good damage buffs on top of it, or assail

You can use warp siphon, DD, crit aura and assail without compromising your ranged slot for horde clear

Oh, and scrier's gaze

Wish scrier worked with warp siphon tho

[strong gulch]

I prefer shred over rampage or riposte because it's general use and doesn't compromise your position.

That being said, shred, rampage, and riposte are all good. Having any of those with uncanny stikes makes building a DS easier.

[untold widget]

surge staff cancel tech is tricky, I'm not used to letting go of RMB while the animation goes through

[orchid shadow]

You don't need to let go of RMB for Surge Cancel

[untold widget]

swap weapons button doesn't work while rmb is held down for me

[ornate hamlet]

Classic

[untold widget]

I'm trying to macro it rn

that mostly works

[hollow pine]

deadass they need to implement a qte for trappers and dogs if you get caught and if you are boputta fall off the bridge. also the scriptures need to come with a buff of their own that benefits the player when they use it and it would take away from the scripture mission like the grimoire thing if they read it
sound solid idea or nah?

[untold widget]

they need to implement loot buffs for doing books like in VT2

theres no reason to do them outside of weeklies that you can just reroll to something less dumb

[hasty breach]

i think they were trying to avoid the sense that theyre MANDATORY which was kinda annoying in vt2

[untold widget]

so they went the complete opposite direction. theres no reason to pick them up

might as well not exist

[shadow wigeon]

Loot would be nice but a carry bonus could also be cool

[left dagger]

dang if only i have more finesse than mobility but its best i hae so far, replace carapace with maniac or nah? i got my surge staff against maniacs already

[potent zenith]

how do i know which targets are marked with disrupt destiny?

[kindred ivy]

they'll glow blue

[potent zenith]

hmm... cant see em in the meat grinder

maybe it cuz i have some mods up but idk

[spice veldt]

they won't get marked if invisibility is on

[potent zenith]

ah

wont i get just get ragdolled and stun locked once i turn invisibility off?

cuz trappers, etc

[ornate hamlet]

Nah, you're still immortal

But you can get disabled, I think

[potent zenith]

o wow. im dumb

xvx

[terse heron]

i am level 10 psyker right now, doing level 3 missions, and i annihilate everything with just Assail alone, i tried using staffs but found them to be much weaker than Assail, so why would i waste my Peril on a staff when i can use Assail? also how do you do that in general when you use assail and have a ton of peril but got a staff isn't the staff kinda obsolete? or do these things change alot lategame and on higher levels?

[urban sandal]

assail becomes less of a crutch in damnation

and the staves generally fill different roles, assail can't deal with carapace and unyielding so can use a staff that can

[ornate hamlet]

or gun

gun rhymes with fun

[olive ember]

Assail on malice will delete stuff yeah

But so does everything else on malice

[zinc phoenix]

But can assail delete deez 🥜

[olive ember]

…

Anyways someone give me a gun build

Need to run gun psyker on heresy and see some funny reactions

[peak juniper]

really just use any gun and skill setup. the important part is that you steal all the ammo from the veterans.

[late night]

scriers dd columnus

[zinc phoenix]

Make sure to teabag all the ammo before picking it up so they know you are the boss

[zinc phoenix]

May as well go empower over dd for the boost to assail

DD very gimmicky

[late night]

tried that at first

i think if you enjoy the dd minigame

its better

[zinc phoenix]

I only DD when I’m feeling melee murder mode so I can stunt on zealots with my zoom zoom

[olive ember]

I changed my mind actually

instead of running psyker

I'll run a loner knife zealot

for maximum trollage

[ornate hamlet]

the higherest trollness

[olive ember]

gotta get that vanguard drip out

[proven stirrup]

Y'know what I wish stayed behind from L4D

Witches.

I do not like these non-encounters

They're either the most ignorable thing in any of these games or they just kill you

There's no in-between, no reason for them to exist but to put a fake wall in an otherwise static level

As much as I love this game, it does a good job of making me hate it

[bleak tulip]

if thats all it takes to make you hate the game I suggest you go take a break lol

[proven stirrup]

Bold of you to assume that's all that's happened

[bleak tulip]

either way

[proven stirrup]

Stop

[bleak tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[proven stirrup]

Breaks don't really help much when you come back to the same bullshit

Despite that, I take them anyway

I'm just tilted.

And I still don't like these things.

I didn't like witches either

[harsh urchin]

Things change a lot once enemies scale up

And weapons scale up but all abilities will stay the same

[ionic frost]

n00b detector.

That's why they exist.

[proven stirrup]

The fuck does that mean?

[ionic frost]

Demonhost got aggroed. You know who the n00b is. =)

[proven stirrup]

And everyone is punished for one person's misstep.

Cool, great game design.

Fuck outta here

They serve no purpose

You will not convince me otherwise

[ionic frost]

Well, ideally your team can kill it before it kills the n00b...otherwise maybe your team kills it before it kills the brave hapless soul who tried to do the most damage to it saving the n00b. Otherwise, time to duo clutch.

Their purpose: Monstrosity contracts!

[proven stirrup]

Nothing that happens in this game is ideal.

[ionic frost]

We need a Sountrack featuring demonhosts and rejects talking about them!

Soundtrack

[proven stirrup]

I've only ever succeeded in killing these things with competent zealots in the part

Or at least a zealot with his holy cringe ult

[harsh urchin]

You should play a single player game

[ionic frost]

The best chance of killing them lies with someone who can tank/kite them aggroing them...which is rarely what happens. =D

[harsh urchin]

If you dislike multiplayer games so much

[proven stirrup]

I'll be ignoring you too

[ionic frost]

Demonhosts aggroing isn't that common on auric damnation

[harsh urchin]

People who complain like this

Don't play on a5

Tbf

Most the people who were whining about assail back when it was overpowered were malice gamers lol

[ionic frost]

Yep...

[harsh urchin]

Cuz there was no enemies left once the assail psyker pressed their mouse twice

And now he blocked me

[harsh urchin]

Lololol

[ionic frost]

They should balance the game of basketball for middle schoolers. I vote for 5 foot diameter rims.

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, it's perfectly understandable to dislike daemonhosts and witches

[harsh urchin]

Now you're getting blocked too 😹

[ionic frost]

Score.

Wait, can it be in-game please?

I need to expand my block list.

Only way is make people block me!

[harsh urchin]

I think i have 2 people on my block list

Both times for toxicity

I dont block ppl for being bad

Only for raging and malding nonstop

[proven stirrup]

Apparently no it's not

I'm over it though. They can scream and holler in their little box

[ionic frost]

Yes, of course! Of course! I'll do whatever you like.

[brittle halo]

Hi, does "Crucian Roulett" buff the crit chance of assail? Or was it patched?

[ionic frost]

That lasted a week or two.

Same with hand-cannon/

.

maybe 3

[brittle halo]

still a lot of newer guides out there recommending crucian roulett tho :/

[ornate hamlet]

Well, fuck them

[ionic frost]

@proven stirrupBTW...the worst is level 30 n00bs aggroing a demonhost that you marked for them in sedition then dying in 5 seconds cus they don't know how to block to cost you the 1 run with no player deaths contract. =(

Good thing they no longer appear in sedition? =)

Other than light's out.

[urban sandal]

daemonhosts no longer show up in sedition and uprising unless it's lights out or vent purge

[stark notch]

Waltuh?

[ionic frost]

They'll show up on vent purge sedition?

I didn't think vent purge had extra daemonhosts.

[urban sandal]

I believe so, might just be lights out though

[ionic frost]

Ok

[zinc tartan]

Thanks brunts! Don't mind if I do.

[ionic frost]

shiny

be blessed with FLAK IV and DUMDUM IV for your rolls.

[zinc tartan]

haha

[compact onyx]

is this usable or brunt gave me a brick?

[urban sandal]

that's good just pray for good blessings and perks

[ionic frost]

I prefer 80 mobility and warp resist as the dump stat, but can still be good

[proven stirrup]

"That's good" That's a fucking god roll base my guy

[urban sandal]

sure but don't get your hopes up

you should know hadron hates 380's

[proven stirrup]

I'd still use that ho as a stand in

You're never gonna see numbers like that again lol

[ionic frost]

Never say never.

[compact onyx]

I would've too but I got this on my last bit of money

[ionic frost]

I don't have money to spend on brunt's with all the l33t weapons I buy from the Armoury.

[proven stirrup]

Anything above 60 in a stat is fine with me

[ionic frost]

lol

60 stability is ass on most weapons

[proven stirrup]

Weapons that care about it sure

[compact onyx]

I spent like 100k then stop because the copium is getting too high

[proven stirrup]

But I'm a careful shooter anyway

But it heavily depends on the weapon for me

[ionic frost]

Nice roll for 100ik

k

[cosmic sigil]

Is that question serious?

[ionic frost]

Hadron is the giver of bricks around here!

[proven stirrup]

To be fair like

[compact onyx]

yea I was thinking if the low mobility was going to be an issue

[proven stirrup]

If that 61 were in like, damage

We're be singing a different tune

Like yeah it's perfect but it could be a perfect brick

[compact onyx]

I would've upgraded it anyway to get blessings out of it

[proven stirrup]

You can do that with any decently high rating weapon. 380 doesn't guarantee you anything too much more than like 370

But yeah still enough to fish a blue bless out of

[ornate hamlet]

That sword base is so beautiful that I think it can roll surge

[cosmic sigil]

It's fine. The question is do you want high or low warp resistance?

[compact onyx]

Preferably low warp

[cosmic sigil]

Fire sword incoming

[untold widget]

funny enough, Demonhosts are basically free kills for Psykers, assuming you have Kinetic Deflection and a +3 stamina curio. If you see a teammate heading up and about to aggro one, just two tap it with your staff and then swap to melee and tank it out of the way in a corner. Best to have Vent as well, so you can dump excess peril without having to path tank it around an obstacle

I can hold them more or less indefinitely and use the peril they generate from blocking their attacks to vent on whatever your team has to kill before focusing on the Dhost

ez pz

[proven stirrup]

I have to ask

Why do you still need stamina curios with KD?

How does that scale how much peril a block takes?

[untold widget]

factors into the block cost reduction calculation

idk the math

but it makes a huge difference

[proven stirrup]

Well shame I was on my ogryn

And that it just refused to attack me

[untold widget]

ah yeah, I don't have that problem

I spend 99% of my time on psyker

[proven stirrup]

Also that's a very specific setup you have to have to not have it wipe you

[untold widget]

not very specific

[proven stirrup]

Vent and KD is specific enough

[untold widget]

I usually run vent, I always run KD, and I usually have a +3 stam curio

[proven stirrup]

I'm...

nvm

[untold widget]

you can get away with not having vent, but you have to be creative with dodging and find something to break up her path a bit

I can't think of a reason not to take Kinetic Deflection. it's too good

[proven stirrup]

Yeah I just want them gone

I know it wont happen but I'm tired of seeing them at all anymore

[untold widget]

They only exist because nobody kills them /s

be the change, murder them all!

[kindred ivy]

another SMITE W

[untold niche]

i still haven't see my +3 stam curio

very sad

[ionic frost]

Aw yes...just got the ole 2/4 strike team level 30 psyker in HISTG with a grey trauma staff. =)

He was very bad in case you were wondering.

[untold niche]

but did u win

thats why i don't want to carry anymore, i just want 2 be carried

[compact cargo]

I want more plasteel for carrying

[untold niche]

11 gold illisi and still no deflector 4

very sad

played a game today

team was competent

was so boring i exploded at the end

[compact cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[ionic frost]

Me smarty Ogryn. Me want attach me nuke to back of psyker head.

Then me pick up another one.

[trim valve]

Which Psyker gun has the highest base crit chance?

Is it just the pistol with like 20%?

[ornate hamlet]

Should be the laspistol, I think

[potent echo]

Revolver has +20~% or smth

[ornate hamlet]

Though if it is the chance I'm thinking, the revolver can get more than that

[potent echo]

Laspistol might be similar, just check the weapons under inspect

[olive ember]

does anyone have a clip of them just running through or past gunners

[trim valve]

under inspect?

[potent echo]

Press V

Hover over critical bonus

[potent echo]

Uhh I have one where I have stripped down

[trim valve]

Ahh I see, the revolver has that. I'm guessing they both have like 20%

[olive ember]

nah cuz reddit has this idea that pasykers need bubble shield to deal with gunners

its kinda sad

[potent echo]

You can check, it's all written there

[potent echo]

Record one right now

[olive ember]

.>

[trim valve]

Laspistol does not have critical bonus modifier.

[olive ember]

maybe I will

jk who plays psyker anymore

assail nerfed

voidstrike nerfed

psyker is trash now

I play ogryn

[trim valve]

I like Psyker, I think my highest win rate is with surge + smite followed by trauma + assail.

[olive ember]

surge staff psyker

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-memoji-gif-23490017

[trim valve]

Eeh?

[olive ember]

nothing don't mind me

I just hate surge staff

[trim valve]

I was there when it was doing -20 %- 40% damage on damnation auric (but it could crit) and also after they fix the limb damage (but it could still crit)

Not as powerful as the version that could crit and did not got to lose damage for hitting limbs, but current version is still quite solid.

[potent echo]

@trim valve

[trim valve]

What do people run with gun psyker? What is the point of it?

[potent echo]

Laspistol 15%, taken from combine00 steam guides on darktide

[harsh urchin]

Fun

[trim valve]

I don't quite want to do revolver psyker, is there something else?

[potent echo]

It's has alot of boss dps

[harsh urchin]

Laspistol

Columnus

[potent echo]

Laspistol psyker melts bosses

[harsh urchin]

Vraks3

[trim valve]

Yeah, I was thinking laspistol. But like Laspistol + assail??

[harsh urchin]

Gunpsyker with assail DD is pretty fun

And scrier ya

[trim valve]

I mean it makes sense.

[potent echo]

I prefer smite venting for gunker

More control

[harsh urchin]

Too much ammo consumption

You cry if no vet aura

[potent echo]

Kinda

[harsh urchin]

Assail is stable regardless of teammates shittyness

[potent echo]

But just loot ammo and I'm usually fine

[trim valve]

Ohh damn, I forgot I don't have deathstrike as a psyker, I don't get +25% crit chance for just ADS with the laspistol.

[harsh urchin]

You dont wanna be the ammo gremlin

Esp as a psyker

[potent echo]

Why not

[trim valve]

That's a feels bad moment

[harsh urchin]

Same reason you dont wanna be a rude person irl

[trim valve]

Psyker eating all the ammo

[potent echo]

Everytime I see this argument it doesn't make any sense

[harsh urchin]

You can be a rude person if you want, you do you

[potent echo]

So zealot shouldn't take ammo either

[harsh urchin]

Uh no you should take ammo

[potent echo]

Or vets without ammo aura

[harsh urchin]

But you should be reasonable with it

[trim valve]

It's about self control

[harsh urchin]

Like not shooting poxwalkers,

[potent echo]

Yea just take reasonably

[harsh urchin]

Using assail

Etc

A lot of the gubpsykers i see gremlin all the ammo

And shoot it into the horde

[potent echo]

That's called projection

[harsh urchin]

And then team dies cuz no ammo lol

[potent echo]

It has nothing to do with why psykers shouldn't take ammo

[trim valve]

Dis is literally talking about not taking all the ammo, how is that projection? Is he secretly playing gun psyker and eating all the ammo???

Like if you want to play psyker and eat all the ammo you do you, you are being rude. But I'm not going to do that and I don't think Dis will either.

[umbral helm]

I think it's the assumption of it having to be one end of the spectrum or the other a lot of the time being tiresome, but that does go both ways

[harsh urchin]

I tell everyone to not take the ammo

So i can take it all

😼

[trim valve]

Ahh, I undestand now.

What about the melee weapon? Something do deal with mutants maybe with decent horde control? I'm thinking devil's claw but hmm.

I'm using the pistol for the big targets and bosses with Gaze I'm assuming.

[cosmic sigil]

I don't know how people can be short on ammo.

[tame venture]

chainsword maybe?

spam heavies for horde, charged lights for specials, charged heavies for bosses

[olive ember]

you clearly haven't seen me play gun lugger ogryn with ripper

[cosmic sigil]

[tame venture]

no.
glugger with rumbler

i once played a mission with 2 psykers and a plasma vet
still was starving for ammo

[trim valve]

Ahh damn, I forgot they can use chainsword, I gotta craft one for my psyker.

[tame venture]

it's a useful item

[trim valve]

Hmm I am not sure if 4000 plasteel is going to cut it for a new laspistol and chainsword.

[tame venture]

it's not unlike the DS4 in terms of use and flexibility

but building a chainsword isn't a bad idea because of the shared blessings pool

if you played a bunch of vet or zealot

[trim valve]

Yes

Although there is a chance I only played chainaxes with those two classes and I only have tier 1 blessings for them.

[tame venture]

that's still better than nothing

[trim valve]

Ohh yeah

[tame venture]

chainsword is decently forgiving

iirc i have some garbage tier blessings on it

[trim valve]

Crafting the staffs was EXPENSIVE, a chainsword can't be that bad.

[tame venture]

something like, 'on 3 hits get more cleave'

and something else idk

[trim valve]

Do I need the bleed blessing?

[tame venture]

oh it'll be even more expensive by the time you're through

[tame venture]

you can probably be okay with a grey tier one ngl

but it wouldn't be a bad idea to upgrade one to max, and maybe put a +25% flak/maniac perk to replace something terrible

leave the blessings open to change later

[trim valve]

Well laspistol went kinda bad, let's hope chainsword is a BIT better.

The new one is the cool one right?

[tame venture]

i haven't touched the new one

it would be worthwhile to grab one of each just to see the swing patterns

[trim valve]

Nah I just gotta believe, go all in.

Commit

New one is Mk XIII right?

If I can't see the stats and swing patterns from Brunt's Armory is because powers beyond my control decided this is the way.

[tame venture]

just buy one example and go to the psykanium

[trim valve]

Fine, I'll try it out.

[tame venture]

don't forget that block attacks are a thing too

and that they can be revved too

[trim valve]

I like the triple light into heavy sweap attack, not a fan of the block attack and not a fan of my first attack for both light and heavy is a strikedown.

I'll give it pass.

Looks cool

[tame venture]

old chainswords's heavies are semi horizontal/diagonals back and forth

[trim valve]

I like the horizontal heavy sweap attack, I does not look like the old one has it.

Like 90 degrees horizontal attack.

Well, RNG was not with me. 500 000 "gold" and 4000 plasteel later this is what I got.

Money comes and goes I guess.

If I want to move fast and get more dodges I switch to the pistol, perfect.

[distant roost]

Pistol is def saveable

[trim valve]

I may want to get Infernus which I don't have, but I had every single tier of Ghost but the Tier IV variant so that's something.

[distant roost]

dumdum is a good option for it

if it’s there

[trim valve]

Ohh yeah, I do have that, tier IV also. I just may need a little bit of plasteel juice before I can get it.

Do I dump Ghost? Ghost + Emphatic Evasion sounds kinda hilarious.

Alright, Scrier's Gaze + Disrupt Destiny because why not I never use it why my staffs and it is all set, many thanks to the people the helped me with the Gun Psyker build.

[potent echo]

I like ghost, empathic isn't 100% reliable

[tame venture]

honestly, i wouldn't say you'll need to farm an upgrade for a looong time for those.
they're like, 95% perfect

[ornate hamlet]

I think empathic evasion just needs to be reliable enough for you to get toughness back from the damage you took not critting

When I dive gunner crowds I still take some damage, but I just need my toughness to outlast what I take so I can get it back when EE procs again

[trim valve]

Well I don't think I did that well, gotta get used to NOT swamping into my gun to quell peril. Since I have a laspistol build with deathshot I also need to get used to not hip firing because with 54 stability without ADS is kinda wild. But once you get disrupt destiny with good stacks and gaze with good stacks, the damage is quite nice.

Not a fan of disrupt destiny I don't get it, sometimes the "blue cherries" keep appearing and other times is just a couple of hordes and not a single enemy is blue.

[trim valve]

When ghost is active is kinda hilarious, yeah sadly emphatic is kinda "works in the background" I can't really control it at will, even with True aim is hard to keep track of it.

Here is the "screenshot", I did not used my laspistol that much now that I think about it (I only took 3 ammo packs). It was low intensity so it was kinda chill except when I got bonked in the head by a crusher when I was struggling to get rid of my 100% peril with my gun reload animation.

I do like the build, I do need to get more used to it.

[urban sandal]

this good?

[rich jolt]

Anyone else notice the new psyker coat shoulder guards are sorta... floating?

Whats up with that

[vestal fulcrum]

Who’s to say?

[vestal fulcrum]

Not really.

[sudden trellis]

did smite get nerfed or something?

[vestal fulcrum]

I mean, maybe, but ideally you want Flak + Elites as perks, and Nexus + Flurry as blessings

[rich jolt]

Not from my knowledge

[vestal fulcrum]

In what way?

[sudden trellis]

it doesn't seem to stagger nearly as hard as it did before

[vestal fulcrum]

Big doubt about that

I don’t think the way it staggers things has been touched at all

[chrome patrol]

it stuns everything besides monstrosities lol

[sudden trellis]

weird nvm, maybe something got bugged out. everything works perfectly fine in the testing room

ended up getting completely fucking doinked because of it, but I guess it was just my luck

[vestal fulcrum]

Mind that some things need to be zapped for a longer time before they are disabled proper

[sudden trellis]

i know

[vestal fulcrum]

Best example of this is notably Crusher

[sudden trellis]

but a full peril bar's worth of smite should at least stagger someone once

hence my concern.

[vestal fulcrum]

A full bar of peril doesn’t mean much if 1) the target has been acquired just recently and hasn’t been zapped for long enough (varies per breed)

2. the target is nurgle-blessed or is a monstrosity/captain

The latter cannot be stunned by smite, by any means

[sudden trellis]

yeah.

i KNOW

[vestal fulcrum]

Then

Why the surprise

It hasn’t changed fundamentally

FS does make stealth changes sometimes, yes, but it’s a change that would be explicit enough they maybe wouldn’t miss in the patch notes

[summer prairie]

the target may have had stagger immunity due to having been staggered recently. E.g. if a crusher gets knocked over, it's immune for 6 seconds

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s also a good point

[summer prairie]

staggering a crusher doesn't take long at all if it's not currently immune

[vestal fulcrum]

I forget about these bizzare mechanics sometimes

[half iron]

new collar i am happy

[olive ember]

new toilet bowl*

[left basin]

does deimos use first target? i've heard that it doesnt

like, today

[olive ember]

it does

[vestal fulcrum]

It does use FT

Because you want to use a lot of L1 and H2, which do a lot of damage

[left basin]

shit, i meant illisi

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-meme-react-funny-dog-gif-25019867

[vestal fulcrum]

Less so, but hitting the first target for 30-something more damage is never a bad thing

[olive ember]

you still want first target

its just not as important

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t recall whether FT impacts special-powered attacks, though

[spice veldt]

illisi is the one where ft doesn't affect the specials

[olive ember]

arcotash is here

isn't it like 3 AM for you

[spice veldt]

ye

I'm sleeping at like 7 pm currently

[olive ember]

Bruh

How

I wake up at 8 PM

[spice veldt]

correcting my sleep schedule

ah damn I should've read the entire convo first

[olive ember]

What build are you currently running

I haven’t played psyker in a while

[spice veldt]

right side Psyker with some arbitrary ranged weapon

assail + mk4 at all times

[olive ember]

I thought you quit melee Psyker

[spice veldt]

now I'm an assail psyker 😎

[olive ember]

Idk if that’s better or worse

[ornate hamlet]

||BRRR SKIBIDI DOP DOP YES YES||

[idle bay]

More data-mind outfits?

Oh! Actualy in store...

I wonder it have a voice modulatoin....

[half iron]

it doesn’t

[twin oasis]

Ask enough people they'll say everything is trash, just use what ever, if you do bad : switch, if you do good : congratulations

[potent echo]

Or just go to the psyk and check out the breakpoints

[ionic needle]

Yes it's good, swap unarmored for crit% and barrage for nexus and you're good to go

[gloomy magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-eating-eating-eating-cat-gif-8459125914348971806

[hoary schooner]

Hey, everyone! I'm dipping my toes into Psyker and I'd like some advice: which toughness regeneration talents (like Soulstealer, Quietude, Warp Expenditure, etc.) would you recommend or consider the best? I'm primarily using a crit-based Voidstrike and the Illisi, if that makes any difference.

[stark notch]

The toughness talents that you get when you gain/lose peril are the best ones

Beyond that it's personal preference

[hoary schooner]

How's Soulstealer (7.5% on warp attack kill)? More importantly, what exactly qualifies as a warp attack?

[stark notch]

Warp based weaponry. Staves, force swords, brain burts, assail, smite

So any kill you get from these weapons

[hoary schooner]

So literally everything I'm using, then.

[stark notch]

Guess so

[hoary schooner]

What about Inner Tranquility vs. Essence Harvest for the Warp Charges keystone?

[stark notch]

I do not remember them by name sorry. What do they do?

[hoary schooner]

-6% peril generation per warp charge vs. 30% toughness over 5s on gaining a warp charge

[stark notch]

-6% peril

[hoary schooner]

My monke brain is telling me to go Peril 100% but if I got the other, I could drop a lot of defensive points elsewhere.

[stark notch]

The biggest problem as psyker won't be your toughness regeneration. It'll be your toughness damage reduction

So try and invest into that

[stark notch]

Try offense, and see what all you're dying to.

Then invest accordingly

That's how I handle most of my builds, but go for what feels right =>=

[hoary schooner]

Thanks, I'll play around and see what feels good.

[ionic needle]

Are you running that with EP or DD?

[ionic needle]

I think only specials on force swords count as warp attacks, also soulblaze counts I think

[hasty breach]

consider investing in Health curios. i even dropped my +stamina curio for more health. whie youre learning, you'll blow yourself up a good bit and it helps to still have a reserve that can soak a sniper shot

[hollow token]

why black ?

[solemn wolf]

what perk/blessing would you guys upgrade/change on this staff? 🤓 nexus?

[gloomy magnet]

skibidi sibling

[spice veldt]

i'm using DD since EP is boring

[solemn wolf]

😄 not sure if i should go unyielding or carapace instead of maniac <.<

[spice veldt]

anything that generates as peril counts as a warp attack (and soulblaze)

so staff primaries/secondaries count

there's a good reason why it got nerfed down from 15%

[glass forge]

One toughness damage reduction node increase by 5%. On the other hand, one toughness node increase by 15 points. Seems toughness gives more survivability. Or am I wrong, how do you come to conclusion toughness DMG reduction is better?

[stark notch]

Investing in toughness damage reduction is better than toughness regeneration, not total toughness increase on psyker. I don't know the math on that and won't even begin to comment.

[ionic needle]

Yeah so only specials on force swords then

[swift grail]

Crit + Unyielding
Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry
Do 2 quick charges into 1 full charge to benefit the most out of Warp Flurry.
Also try to stay at high peril (80+) at all times

[ionic needle]

Trying out something similar now and yeah EP is very boring. Do you ever prioritize DD targets or do you just stack it passively as you kill stuff?

[swift grail]

Purgatus wielders should try Scrier's Gaze Purgatus Build ASAP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WNRYmZfKgk
(Spoiler: It melts everything, 70k Boss damage, easy 100+ Combo kills, over 3.5k crits and roughly 2x team-mate damage)

[ionic needle]

Why not go for peril gen reduction on warp charges?

[swift grail]

@ionic needle I like to play on high peril at all times. if you think you got enough toughness generation without essence harvest then go for it. might help you stay in scriers a bit longer (since you'll build stacks super fast after dropping them)

[hasty breach]

dont crits only affect the rate of burn stack acquisition per tic?

[ionic needle]

Yes it does, which is why crit is insane on purgatus

[ionic needle]

Yeah I noticed that purgatus builds WC incredibly fast

[hasty breach]

WC?

[ionic needle]

warp charges

What's that counter you got in the middle of your screen? Kill streak?

[hasty oriole]

Can anyone give me a good psyker build to manage the twins better?

[fluid aspen]

Dash counter

[ionic needle]

Not that one

The +12

[swift grail]

as you can see crit to non-scrit damage ratio is 1.3 which is not that great.
Therefore building stacks super fast (due to critting) is what makes things melt since the higher the stacks are the more damage each tick does in a non-linear fashion

[fluid aspen]

Kill combo

[ionic needle]

Yeah okay

[fluid aspen]

What are the nodes highlighted in yellow at the start of the vid?

[ionic needle]

So wait how does purgatus work when blowing up? Is it only the peril as you start flaming that counts? I see you keep flaming well beyond 100% several times without blowing up

[ionic needle]

It marks optional nodes

[swift grail]

I made a max damage and max survivability variation so the yellow/green nodes are the ones you can swap around
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af3c2f1-4c33-40d1-bda8-2257b7ddbbe8/endgame-scriers-purgatus-build-auric-ready-guide-by-yobi

[ionic needle]

If you go for seers presence you can get one with the warp for some extra toughness DR and maybe that would work well with peril gen reduction on warp charges

Gonna try this out now, cool idea

[swift grail]

As long as you release the cast BEFORE you hit 100% you will not explode 😄

[ionic needle]

Isn't the breakpoint 97% like for everything else?

[spice veldt]

it's only 97% for brainb urst

[orchid nest]

it's pretty fun. prefer creeping flames still myself but it's something different to do which is always cool

[spice veldt]

everything else is fine as long as it's below 100%

[ionic needle]

Aah okay, I was sure it was for everything

[spice veldt]

staff primaries and secondaries also generate peril

[spice veldt]

you can usually stack it passively

i'm a greedy player though so i always gun for marked targets

since they're also usually elites

[fluid aspen]

Why would you take Kinetic Flayer in the tanky version?

[ionic needle]

Yes of course

I really wish the WC CDR worked on Gaze, it's pretty much the only keystone I enjoy

[fluid aspen]

Does it still spend all your WCs when you use it, without lowering CD?

[ionic needle]

Yes

At least that's the last I heard

[fluid aspen]

[ionic needle]

Shouldn't matter too much on the gaze purg build though since purg builds charges incredibly fast

[swift grail]

It's a bug. Still hasn't been issued since patch 13
I guess we are "low-priority"

[ionic needle]

Meanwhile we can't even keep the surge EP bug for more than two weeks

[fluid aspen]

I've made the tree from your guide, swapped only Warp Battery to Kinetic Deflection. I just need a proper staff now

[swift grail]

you don't have to. you will be 1 point short anyway if you go tanky variation.
Basically if you think you have more than enough toughness damage reduction you can forfeight either Endurance or One with the Warp to get Kinnetic Flayer

[ionic needle]

Going into auric maelstrom with this right away, trial by fire

Literally

[fluid aspen]

Are you taking BR to have something for long range? Or do you think I could take Smite for some extra utility

[swift grail]

Scrier's Gaze gives you +20% Crit Chance immediately without having to wait for peril to go high enough to get +20% Crit Chance from Warp Nexus.
That means you will crit so much that all enemies will go to full soulblaze stacks in no time, without needing Creeping Flames.
That's why it's so insane

[orchid nest]

creeping flames is good because it goes higher than the max stacks allowed by purg, not because it gets to its normal max stacks quickly. it's good but creeping flames is just better imo. lets you handle shooter squads much better, higher end damage on bosses thanks to 21 stacks, more damage on elites, good panic button etc

[swift grail]

I took BR for long range. I was thinking a "what if" scenario of applying max burn stacks to a mixed horde full of ragers / crushers / maulers etc and then using smite + Enfeeble to hold them in place and make them take +10% damage
Probably not worth it but i haven't tried it yet

[fluid aspen]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking as well, but then I only have staff LMB to take down snipers and other stuff in the distance

[swift grail]

I like creeping flames mostly because you can burn things at the other side of a large room.
Scrier's Purgatus is best used in maps that are full of corridors and confined spaces
Venting Purgatus is best used in open areas and long distances (imo)

that said, i dont think one build is better than the other.
just 2 good builds to play with

[orchid nest]

I would just personally use vent everywhere myself since it just goes through terrain/walls anyways. scrier has better immediate ramp for sure. it's fun

[fluid aspen]

Got a pretty good Purg base

[swift grail]

be warned, it requires better peril management than venting version. i once played it right after i woke up and exploded 3 times cos brain was still AFK 😂

[fluid aspen]

And then brain was 🤯

Honestly I'm just looking for something else to build since none of my current builds are really getting the job done

[orchid nest]

I'm kind of hoping that the scrier/warp charge "fix" is that it just doesn't consume the warp charges instead since it isn't benefitting from them. I'm sure they will go the other way instead and just have it apply at the end of scriers but I can hope as someone who doesn't like built in quicken for a lot of builds

[fluid aspen]

Warp Charge just needs to be reworked as a whole tbh. Forcing you to not use your ability if you want to keep the passive benefits is really counter-intuitive

[swift grail]

i like this idea. if you dont consume stacks for scrier's gaze then that's +24% (6x 4%) BASE damage from the get-go. Damn!

[orchid nest]

yeah it would be awesome

[orchid nest]

ideally for me it would give the 4% damage per warp charge baseline like before and quicken should be the end node instead of warp battery and empyrean empowerment should be the 6 charges instead.

[swift grail]

imo they can introduce a "two-way" combat ability activation to spice things up.

Normal Activation = Tap your CA
Secondary Activation = Hold your CA (the CA icon is getting filled, when it's full your secondary activation triggers)

this way you could tap to not spend stacks, hold to spend stacks

and do similar things to all other Combat abilities / keystone combos for all classes

[fluid aspen]

Yeah give the player some agency in how they want to use it. Make it either a node to use if you want CDR builds or make it something you can decide on the fly

[orchid nest]

having it set up that way also puts in more in line with the other keystones where you get the full core of it for 3 points down in it and then the qol/utility is the last 2 points

[ionic needle]

Yeah I can see this build having some potential, it's really annoying constantly managing peril like that though

[fluid aspen]

I'm just looking forward to trying something different to my usual builds

[ionic needle]

It really does melt shit when gaze is activated