#psyker-class

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kindred ivy
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pugatus useer

feral verge
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he's seething

severe folio
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purg wildfire

snow dust
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Aye. He just hating.

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Honestly, just taking a break from voidstrike and surge staff.

feral verge
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i just run in, stagger/burn as needed with purga

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and use creeping flames/AB

snow dust
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But don't have a decent trauma staff to muck around with, so I'm using purg

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creeping flames/AB?

feral verge
snow dust
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Also I hear left click purg staggers, is that true?

kindred ivy
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@dense crow i dont do furry comissions like that, approach me on twitter if u want a furry feet art

snow dust
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left click seems kinda weak

severe folio
feral verge
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when you hit F

snow dust
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ah

feral verge
snow dust
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That ventin shriek talent

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right

feral verge
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yes

severe folio
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youre notgonna spread more soulblaze

kindred ivy
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bad player

severe folio
kindred ivy
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imainge using purgatus

feral verge
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i main trauma

kindred ivy
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and it shows

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dogshit

feral verge
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he's seething

snow dust
severe folio
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he's coping

kindred ivy
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flame and cope

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i'll go back to winnig

feral verge
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before the update

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ascendant blaze

snow dust
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ah

feral verge
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i pair purga with this deimos

severe folio
feral verge
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i dont think it's entirely useless

severe folio
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on a purgatus it would be useless

snow dust
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Purg does great horde/area damage anyways. MK IV Dueling melts single target/tanky stuff

feral verge
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deimos melts single target too

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just a preference

snow dust
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aye, that's true

feral verge
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illisi is the horde one

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(even then, it can be built to hav e good single target)

snow dust
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aye

severe folio
snow dust
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wish ObeseFish would allow us to Favorite weapons.

mighty olive
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Any mods you guys know of that changes damage color? Crit and weakspot are too similar to me >_<

snow dust
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Also any mods that can change the color of the flames? Blinding fire is annoying

severe folio
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maybe you can use the custom flame mod

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thats the only thing that affect the visual effect of purgatus

feral verge
proven stirrup
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I need a little more plasteel to refine the perks but holy shit

feral verge
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most of my actual damage comes from AB

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just like blaze trauma

proven stirrup
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This is my best weapon across like all of my characters

snow dust
severe folio
kindred ivy
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wildfire is very situational

ornate hamlet
kindred ivy
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u gotta somehow apply high ammount of flames, on a burst, and not constnatly

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if u can apply flames constnatly , wilfire is useless

snow dust
severe folio
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custom flame

severe folio
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yeah

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but in any case, wildfire spreading tool are redundant compare to purgatus

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so if you use purgatus its best to pick something else other than wildfire

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if you are using blaze trauma then you will get more value out of wildfire than something like purgatus

feral verge
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i see purga mainly as a setup for AB

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AB is my real weapon

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which wildfire benefits

severe folio
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wildfire benefit from AB when you stop applying sb to everything after you vent them

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but in what kind of scenario wouldnt you continue to use purgatus after you vent

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except for when all your enemies are dead

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so wildfire kind of spread flame much slower than purgatus during that time

snow dust
feral verge
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to build uncanny strike stacks with deimos

severe folio
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even that, purgatus does better

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in a single second you gonna apply over 4-5 stacks of sb to all the enemies withint 15m in front of you

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and the next second you apply 7-8

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wildfire slowly spreading out 4 from enemies that died to the next one but those next one you already spray purgatus on

snow dust
severe folio
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only some weapons have a different effect for crit

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like assail shard turn purple when its crit

kindred ivy
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smite

severe folio
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he's still yapping

mighty olive
feral verge
severe folio
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maybe hes actually just trolling

mighty olive
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But they look so similar

severe folio
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maybe hes just a troller

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and this is just bait

kindred ivy
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maze

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well/OC /persona

feral verge
kindred ivy
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wearing a monocle

feral verge
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4 downs i think

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lol

kindred ivy
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i got ressed on fire

severe folio
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his whole purpose in this channel is bait

kindred ivy
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2 times that game

severe folio
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i dont think even smite psykers would have him

kindred ivy
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everyone who tested the build agrees its strong

mighty olive
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Who ? O_o

kindred ivy
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

feral verge
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he'll get banned soon

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as should all furries

kindred ivy
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heh

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is that hate?

severe folio
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thats not gonna happen

kindred ivy
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baby boy cant handle different peopel in the chat?

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aw aw,

feral verge
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he's seething

severe folio
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he's coping

kindred ivy
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i'll keep winning and outdoing lobbies, keep coping

severe folio
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he actually though furry hate is a shield he can get behind πŸ˜”

kindred ivy
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i am just that good

severe folio
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right

kindred ivy
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the discord warp shield

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is real

severe folio
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well, thats enough of this guy for today

feral verge
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thanks for reeducating me on wildfire

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i have been zealot moding for so long

severe folio
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you welcome

feral verge
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trying to get psyker to out level zealot again

dense crow
kindred ivy
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try my build XD

feral verge
kindred ivy
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L

feral verge
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using smite is like entering a contract with the enemies, wherein you both agree to do nothing - josho

kindred ivy
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if u gonna take smite for dmg, take pe

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ep*

feral verge
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even then

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i want to move around, dodge and actually physically kill things

severe folio
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ep smite is not going to get more damage than other weapons in the game

feral verge
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not just move at a turtles pace holding down a button

severe folio
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and if your ep smite is doing more damage than other tools in your arsenal

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then you are just very bad at other tools

kindred ivy
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me when every other players is bad

severe folio
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see, he's not gonna listen lol

feral verge
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furries are like that

kindred ivy
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what u mean by that?

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is that more unfunded hate towards furries?

severe folio
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just unfunded disdain to you sibling

feral verge
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you mean unfounded

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and no, it's not unfounded

kindred ivy
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to me its allright, but hating furries cause they are furries

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kinda cringe no

kindred ivy
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me when 1 perosn

feral verge
kindred ivy
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repersents everything

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2 person

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me when bad person exists "AND HE LIKES BRAKING BAD"

feral verge
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i've encountered many furries

kindred ivy
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lietrally the entire braking bad fandom is just as bad

severe folio
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i mean

kindred ivy
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your point is?

lunar quail
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worth copping on psyker?

kindred ivy
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if a couple of people are stupid

severe folio
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saying another fandom is also bad doesnt really justify how odd yours is

kindred ivy
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doesnt mean eveyrone in the fandom is

severe folio
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and its true, every fandom has a lot of stupid people

feral verge
kindred ivy
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look at undertale

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block efficiency is ZACED

severe folio
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we here specifically is just not very cool with the whole animal debauchery

proven stirrup
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It also doesn't make this worth using as a cudgel you troglodytes

proven stirrup
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Stop being petty and ignore the guy

lunar quail
kindred ivy
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i havent mentioned me beeing a furry except when awnsering the 12 year old there

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who dislikes my profile picture

lunar quail
feral verge
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save the toughness regen speed

lunar quail
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heard that thank you

kindred ivy
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what are u trying to compare me to?

feral verge
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and put hp and toughness perks on instead

severe folio
rare mesa
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which would u run

severe folio
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why is it so bright

rare mesa
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hdr

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soz

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maybe right with blazing?

feral verge
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i'd use the one on the right

severe folio
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i would use the 377

rare mesa
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idk iw as giving flurry a try

feral verge
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you use flurry with rending shockwave

rare mesa
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trust but verify

feral verge
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you use nexus with blazing spirit

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because

rare mesa
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crit go up = good

feral verge
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nexus by itself is a poor damage boost

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because

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trauma staff has low crit damage

rare mesa
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is there a t4 blaze

unkempt parcel
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nope

feral verge
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it's crit bonus or whatever is bad

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no t4 blaze

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only t3

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however

rare mesa
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coo thx

feral verge
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force sword gets t4 blaze

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but it's a joke/funny build only

rare mesa
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do they run the uh 100% crit

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on special kill

feral verge
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no, i dont reccomend that

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if you want a fire sword

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go with shred + blaze

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with illisi

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for extra funny, go with obscurus

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because obscurus is an endangered species

rare mesa
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i found a sick one today

feral verge
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it's decent

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this is my funny fire obscurus

rare mesa
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im thinking specialist to maniac and play around with blessings

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keep deflector tho idk i cant live with a force sword without deflector

feral verge
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i havent used deflector in almost a year

severe folio
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its an obscurus blade

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so it may not be the best force sword you can have

feral verge
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obscurus is kinda great

rare mesa
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this what i use

feral verge
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however

rare mesa
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i love my lil deimos

feral verge
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illisi and deimos are just better in every way

unkempt parcel
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Bro tryna make a build when he could just turn his screen around and perma blind the heretics

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wild

rare mesa
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its not like that irl

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only when screenshotting

severe folio
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kinda hoped those force sword have uncanny strikes

rare mesa
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quirk of hdr monitors

severe folio
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weapons that can use uncanny strike should always have uncanny

rare mesa
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i rly like blazing spirit i slept on it for so long

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i always ran rending

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when the blue spreads it hits my dopamine receptor so good

severe folio
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dont use blazing on deimos

ornate hamlet
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I want

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An obscurus with the illisi special

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That's it

severe folio
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that would be nice

rare mesa
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no on my trauma

severe folio
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but theres a lot of things the obscurus need beside illisi special to make it catch up with other force sword

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at least, i think it deserve more than just a special change

ornate hamlet
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Like a bipod

feral verge
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truuu

severe folio
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i want to throw my obscurus into the crowd, lego anakin style

final torrent
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Does the riposte blessing trigger with range attack dodges?

kindred ivy
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πŸ™ outkileld the entire team, god bless smite

idle delta
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I'm a deimos simp but man does the mkiv shred omg

viscid matrix
kindred ivy
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what about the damage?

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nad kills

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and elite kills

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and staggers

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etc etc

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clearly

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JK am just so good anything seems OP on my hands

idle delta
viscid matrix
kindred ivy
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nah mate

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smite

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isjust that good

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(ok i'll admit 2 of them were lower experienced from what i could see)

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the zealot was also +165

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look at the plasteel core, i u cna tell the zealot at a distance XD

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inb4:
Also you KNOW quick play isn't any way to measure performance, silly
Also you KNOW Auric Maestorm isn't any way to measure performance, silly
Also you KNOW auric HISTG isn't any way to measure performance, silly
Also you KNOW scoreboard isn't any way to measure performance, silly
Also you KNOW premade isn't any way to measure performance, silly
Also you KNOW pubs isn't any way to measure performance, silly

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"you gotta compare to yourself" is the most stupid awnser

light latch
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Who are you even talking to

queen fog
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A lil scrolling up told me that thumbsup_ogryn

lethal lagoon
kindred ivy
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didnt u guys say scoreboards are useless XD

light latch
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You posting the scoreboard in here why we dont have them default anymore though so thanks

kindred ivy
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how is a socre board better than the opther if they are useless

shadow wigeon
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just block this guy

kindred ivy
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keep losing games

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with your trauma suckers

lethal lagoon
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I was going to, but him raging is funny.

kindred ivy
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another voidstirke use absolutelly in shambles

light latch
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Why are you talking about smite and trauma when you said that was with smite

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Trauma and Void*

shadow wigeon
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He downloaded darktide last week and thinks a top damage on a pub is important.

Also never picks up mats and is a terrible team mate.

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I would not be posting those scoreboards if you want to be taken seriously

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Which I suspect is not the goal, mind you.

kindred ivy
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"last week"

wet belfry
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Those scores are lowballs to begin with

vast yew
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He likes to post scoreboards from his Revolver Gunker build that uses Creeping Flames to clear hordes, then claim that his success is all due to smite. Just ignore him

kindred ivy
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i have 750 h

wet belfry
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550k is low damage

kindred ivy
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is soo good

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it does moer than vent flames

vast yew
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Case in point

shadow wigeon
light latch
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The math just does not add up

kindred ivy
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its auric dogs

vast yew
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125 dps EP Smite < 186 dps from 9 stacks of Soulblaze

kindred ivy
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nope

light latch
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Why do you also cut off the top

kindred ivy
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to now show names

shadow wigeon
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Break a milly on any class, that's puttin work in. But if you do that with no mat pickups... is it really playing.

light latch
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What

wet belfry
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700k is about the base i expect for any build.

kindred ivy
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the game just didnt have many eneimes

wet belfry
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Nearer 500 means the build is likely pretty bad.

kindred ivy
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for a aruic dam, 1700 kills

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its super low

wet belfry
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900k means build is good.

kindred ivy
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thers only so much u can kill

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on 1700 enemies

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games usually hve 2k+

shadow wigeon
# wet belfry 900k means build is good.

It's all relative. Depends on your team. If you have more than 1 heaby hitter with you, it's very hard for everyone to post those numbers on normal auric.

kindred ivy
vast yew
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no it's also PC

severe folio
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is he still raving

kindred ivy
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that requires elites to be killed

severe folio
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he's still raving

vast yew
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mentioned before how usual modus operandi is snipe an Elite mid-horde to grab a stack of EP and light stuff on fire, then hold Smite + Shriek to clear them out

lethal lagoon
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Low-key kind of wild he's contiuning after how embarassing that little temper tantrum was earlier.

shadow wigeon
severe folio
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well shame just dont exist to some people

kindred ivy
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i was making fun of the guy saying scoreboards mean nothing to then the same paople say a score board is good or bad

strong gulch
light latch
vast yew
lethal lagoon
vast yew
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If you don't want that Laspistol I'l take it

kindred ivy
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kinda hipocritical for yall god "scoreboards mean nothing" when i show a high dmg game, and then i show another game where there simpel was only 1700 enemies, yall go "see? dogshit"

wet belfry
strong gulch
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still an improvement tho

lethal lagoon
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How's it after the nerf, is it noticeable?

kindred ivy
shadow wigeon
vast yew
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definitely noticeable fire rate nerf
still good, but no longer melts bosses

strong gulch
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I'm inebriated and try to make a build. It's a time.

wet belfry
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Is it with venting?

kindred ivy
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XD amongus gun is insane

viscid matrix
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Scoreboard is dogshite, it always shows you are carrying your team
Even when you know you got carried
There is a reason it was disabled before launch

wet belfry
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Venting shriek or no?

kindred ivy
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yeah

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why wouldnt i take shriek?

wet belfry
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Ye then idc

kindred ivy
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its half the dmg

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more les

wet belfry
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Venting shriek on its own does 300k

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Without smite.

kindred ivy
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125 does to all horde, shirked inveitably hits less targets and fades away

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but will help clear super fast

shadow wigeon
vast yew
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shriek deals just enough damage to kill all poxwalker/groaners

wet belfry
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Ok ill put it how i see it.

kindred ivy
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as 9 soul blaez + smite is enough ot basically kill all horde enemies in 1 second

vast yew
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and shooters, notably

wet belfry
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You focus on killing small targets with an increadible abillty then say wow so much damage, team support.

kindred ivy
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the build barelyl does ovekrill dmg, and its almost just from the revolver XD

jaunty atlas
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Oo oi

vast yew
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the lack of overkill is due to your damage ticking so often

kindred ivy
vast yew
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Soulblaze builds will almost always have very little overkill, while driving their teammate's up

kindred ivy
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as crititng 1 unforunate scab

light latch
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atleast you got 35 plat steel

shadow wigeon
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And you still have 0 mats pickups.

kindred ivy
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i dont care about mats

feral verge
kindred ivy
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i really dont

light latch
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Good thing its a team game πŸ™‚

jaunty atlas
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I barely do 400k i my auric damnation wtf

tall mango
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Havent made a purge staff before, this any good?

vast yew
kindred ivy
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me when a build tha tdoesnt do overkill doesnt do overkill

shadow wigeon
vast yew
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eh Cloud Radius is a little low too, is that from Melk?

light latch
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As I said earlier, this is the reason we have to mod scoreboards in so thanks for your contribution to the community

tall mango
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Nah, emp reward

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
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didnt someone say that a build is good if it reaches 900k?

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here, have it

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900k,

shadow wigeon
feral verge
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You aren't good sorry ):

kindred ivy
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me when i am

queen fog
kindred ivy
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wtihout using VS, TF, Plasma gun

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its hard to reach 1M

feral verge
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Look at your damage taken/downs/deaths

kindred ivy
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u werent in the game to see the shit that happened

vast yew
# tall mango Nah, emp reward

daaaaaannng son
that's a pretty decent staff there; eventually you'll want one with 76+ Burn and 80 cloud radius
But those perks and blessings are perfect (Maniacs can be flipped to Crit Chance, if you wanted, or you could just upgrade Flurry and Flak to T4

jaunty atlas
severe folio
kindred ivy
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just follow the Ttruam Force, or Blaze Trauma or VS users

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excluisvelly

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they are the only ones that know anythig about the game

wet belfry
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Just use venting shriek literary…

vast yew
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Revolver Gunker is a good build and no one will argue with you on that.
What people will argue is your obnoxious crowing that EP Smite is OP

shadow wigeon
light latch
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downed 5 times and worried about damage?

wet belfry
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300k damage from the abillty alone.

tall mango
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smite my beloved

kindred ivy
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^^

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the game was rough

shadow wigeon
feral verge
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In all your scoreboards though

kindred ivy
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insta barrel kills n some other shit doesnt halp

feral verge
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You have a lot of damage taken, over 2 downs

light latch
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5 downs 2 deaths

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buddy

kindred ivy
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that game was rough

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it was 40 min game

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lots of shit

light latch
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Just that one game πŸ™‚

kindred ivy
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πŸ€” more less yeah

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me when i get revived on fire and insta down XD

light latch
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3 downs 1 death in the other scoreboard idk man

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And than there is always an excuse why it happens

rare mesa
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imagine dying

feral verge
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I have encountered this type of player many times

kindred ivy
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look cope seethe

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
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what is the sudden change

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of saying?

vast yew
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Purg also wont' hit entire Zip Codes with AoE DoT damage in the same ways that Blaze Trauma and Creeping Flames will

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depending on how you're using Shriek

jaunty atlas
shadow wigeon
wet belfry
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Psyker has generally also a pretty easy time hitting high numbers.

kindred ivy
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from "sorry that isnt a 1m dmg, to yeha dont worry it wont do that much dmg"

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its so hypocritical

wet belfry
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Class is very condensed into good talents, abilltys that grant β€œfree damage”

kindred ivy
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sitting on the psycharnium testing dmg numbers

wet belfry
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Its much harder to hit 1 mill as a vet then a psyker.

kindred ivy
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doesnt express the true value of any weapon/ability

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
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seems to make it kinda easy

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as u can just plasma hords

light latch
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Well plasma gun and staying alive

kindred ivy
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shout and the CDR from a psycher

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should be enuff

vast yew
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Plasma/Krak in Scab Melee Maelstrom will do it but you gotta not be paired with a Blaze Trauma

tall mango
wet belfry
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Using plasma on hordes is ammo inefficent.

kindred ivy
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gotta pump those numbers up

shadow wigeon
vast yew
tall mango
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Mainly been using revolver and void so im looking forward to trying something new

kindred ivy
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void charges? try EP smite and flame shriek paired with revolver XD

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its pretty good

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its lierally the best build in the game rn

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nothing strong

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kill everything

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smite everyone

wet belfry
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Have you considered printing out your scoreboards, hanging them on a wall?

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You could also make them into a joint and smoke them.

jaunty atlas
tall mango
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Why would i ditch wildfire and battle med?

jaunty atlas
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I did not try the new handcannon btw

vast yew
# tall mango Why would i ditch wildfire and battle med?

battle med can hurt Purg, as you need to get to 85 peril to get max stacks from shriek.
wilddfire is just a bad talent in general, though if you've got an extra point not the worst
You also want to go the CDR aura to pick up Empathic Evasion, super good with Purg

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Do you want to stick with Empowerd Psionics/

eager mantle
kindred ivy
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dont listen to the voices

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just run EP smite and fire shrek

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solves ANYHTING

tall mango
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TrollNorris yes your honor i need constant toughness gen

vast yew
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Maus, we are helping a guy with a Purg build
I don't mind discussing the pluses and minuses of Smite and Revolvers
But kindly stay out of the conversation if you have nothing meaningful to add

eager mantle
kindred ivy
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oh

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ok

vast yew
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thank you thumbsup_ogryn

kindred ivy
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XD i used to run purgatus back when """"talents""" were those 6 lines of 3 options

vast yew
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yeah VT2 style

kindred ivy
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DX beta playing the game was a experienec

vast yew
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different take on careers, but a pretty good one imo

kindred ivy
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i love doing the smae assassination mission 20 times in a row.

shadow wigeon
# tall mango Why would i ditch wildfire and battle med?

There are different ways to build Purg, but it bumps into other abilities. I like Battle Med and Wildfire with purg, but then I won't go Shriek, because getting to make stacks will not be fun, and Purg can manage peril with battle med already.
So you're best picking on direction and leaning into it.

vast yew
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yeah either Dome + BM or Shriek + no BM

tall mango
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Okay so theres multiple ways i can go with purg, good to know

#

Appreciated siblings

kindred ivy
#

does it actually make much of a difference tho?

vast yew
#

Yeah all the staves have a few different builds

kindred ivy
#

at the end of hte day

#

u are just like, flaming shit

#

with or without a shield

vast yew
#

Recently tried swapping my Voidstrike from Warp Siphon to EP Assail

#

very fun

shadow wigeon
tall mango
#

Once I get this purg build settled, Im gonna go and make a force build next

vast yew
#

by force you mean Voidstrike?

shadow wigeon
#

I did a Scrier's Purg build the other day.... pretty fun but... I wouldn't recommend it. It does work though!

tall mango
#

you know what

#

i forgot every single staff is x force

#

I meant trauma

vast yew
tall mango
vast yew
#

Gotcha

tall mango
#

Trauma or surge, unsure

#

Kept hearing surge is weird

shadow wigeon
#

If you run mods, get the expanded loadouts mod.... 12 loadouts makes testing and building different setups a lot less paintful.

vast yew
#

Surge is weird but easy to build

tall mango
#

Oh I have that

shadow wigeon
tall mango
#

Been using it for vet

vast yew
#

Also just a quick EP/Dome Purgatus build I whipped up if you want:

light latch
#

Surge enjoyers

vast yew
#

if you want shriek instead then take off BM and put the point into... idk toughness or something

tall mango
#

Still unsure on melee tbh, im using dueling sword but I dont quite like it

vast yew
#

Which mark

tall mango
#

illisi was my go to

#

uhhhh

#

maccc mk 4

vast yew
#

ok that do be the best one

shadow wigeon
vast yew
#

it's not for horde clear as much though, more for 3-shotting Crushers and being mobile

shadow wigeon
vast yew
#

plus the only other thing he could take would be Wildfire or another toughness node

#

so shrugKatarin

shadow wigeon
vast yew
#

depends on how many Crushers say hello at the same time

shadow wigeon
vast yew
#

No, no I get it

#

it doesn't trigger on deaths via Soulblaze damage

#

but where else you gonna put the point

#

unless you swap to Assail or something

shadow wigeon
#

I would take the move speed + under KD over perilous

#

Purg gets you rooted so often its nice catch up

vast yew
#

assuming on the dome build specifically, because the shriek build is dumping BM and needs to get to BB somehow

#

yeah that makes some sense

shadow wigeon
vast yew
#

Battle Med can make it annoying to hit 85 peril on a Purg

orchid nest
#

not to discount anything else but you would take PC because it can max stack over purgs normal stacks

vast yew
#

which if you have Shriek can be a bit frustrating

#

Purg is pretty low-peril generating

shadow wigeon
vast yew
#

fair enough then

#

Also who was I talking to about PC and Voidstrike the other day

shadow wigeon
vast yew
#

I don't for BR with it?

shadow wigeon
#

*go for

vast yew
#

apologizes I'm failing to parse that sentence

shadow wigeon
#

or wait, i dont know the name of that node.. one sec

vast yew
#

think you mean Kinetic Resonance

shadow wigeon
#

KINETIC RESONANCE

#

yes of course naturally the name is so descriptive, how could I forget

vast yew
#

yeah that's a good option too

#

just I find it less useful if you already have EP

#

does make them charge real quick tho

#

Course I also don't play the Purg very often, feels like I'm a bit too limited in Range

shadow wigeon
#

It feels like it's been abandoned a bit with the current state of the game

strong gulch
#

Wow. Do not trust my alcohol induced meme builds. This was incredible bad lol.

shadow wigeon
#

Scrier's Purg was a trip.... I almost want to play it again.

strong gulch
# vast yew Dare I ask?

Didn't use my ability or blitz a single time because I forgot.

SG was supposed to be more crit for fire sword. Took smite so I could get talents on either side of it...

vast yew
#

oh lmao flaming sword meme build

orchid nest
#

PC does always trigger I think too while using purg rmb. it goes over max stacks and all that as mentioned. def worth taking as purg

vast yew
#

yeah I don't think that's gonna work too much lmao

strong gulch
#

Loaded into a match that was half way through and somehow did almost as much damage as the highest player.

vast yew
#

so when spraying RMB it probably won't, but it could

shadow wigeon
strong gulch
orchid nest
#

it does seem to always trigger from purg rmb though despite that normally being true

#

as pygex also noted

eager mantle
#

Blazing spirit is ass because most things you're hitting are dying to the crit anyways and isn't spreading as much as you'd want with wildfire

orchid nest
#

as long as they are in the stream

vast yew
#

idk I usually take it becuase it's a soulblaze talent for my soulblaze staff that isnt' named Wildfire

#

and also because PC is patently nuts on every other build

shadow wigeon
#

Purg procs PC on RMB

#

I just find Purg does not kill enough elites, too many sniped by team mates so make PC worth while.

vast yew
#

tbf it kills anything that isn't a Crusher pretty well enough

#

even Maulers melt under 21 stacks (post-shriek) w/ +25% flak

shadow wigeon
#

Yeah it does fine, it's just a matter of timing.

orchid nest
#

that's kind of true but that is a purg problem in general right now. it's still really good but people are doing so much damage that it loses value

shadow wigeon
#

I'm sad I nuked by Purg/Scrier's build, that actually did kill a lot of elites... but it was such a hassle.

vast yew
#

I find Purg works wonderfully when things are going right but has less ability to pull things back if they start to go wrong

#

you're still a Psyker and still have all the Psyker nonsense (plus Purg left-click staggers everything sub-Crusher)

#

but there's just a bit less nonsense there

shadow wigeon
half iron
#

purg goes hard af whenever you don’t have someone in your ear telling you how ass it is

vast yew
#

it's not Ass

#

it's the weakest stave, but it still does what it does well

orchid nest
#

also kickback ogryn can really take the wind out of your sails just blowing up the entire horde before it's even in purg range

half iron
#

it is according to losers

shadow wigeon
#

Used to be rad to hold down the fort while your team focused on the elites, that just matters less now.

shadow wigeon
ionic frost
#

Purg also used to do more damage relative to enemy max HP...it needs a buff.

spice veldt
#

purg is fine

vast yew
#

not sure how'd they buff it without also buffing soulblaze in general

#

which then wouldn't actually help it

ionic frost
#

let left click stagger crushers again =)

spice veldt
#

it's an infinite cleave weapon and sure it doesn't scale well when your teammates have a braincell and a decent build

half iron
#

i’m more of a trauma or gunker type of cutie myself nowadays but purg was my one-trick during the old days

spice veldt
#

but purg is fine for what it is

strong gulch
#

Ok new build. No SG and talking surge without WS. That way I'll be too scared to use my staff.

spice veldt
#

i really don't see why we're comparing purg to something like the plasmagun as if the plasmagun is not overtuned

ionic frost
#

You used to be able to purg staff everything in investigation mission finale and be pretty safe...now the enemies get a chance to melee you once or twice before they die.

strong gulch
#

Dear Emporer, wtf is this??

vast yew
orchid nest
#

it's kind of hard to believe they just left the plasma cleave value as is and went on vacation

vast yew
#

awful is what it is

ionic frost
strong gulch
spice veldt
#

and purg did get a minor direct damage buff

#

i hope you're also not under the false impression that the direct damage does nothing

ionic frost
#

Make Purg Stagger Crushers Again!

spice veldt
#

no

raw token
#

are there any minimum stats i should hit when going for a zarona revolver? like does reload speed matter past a certain point?

vast yew
#

It's just less important than Damage/Penetration/Critical Bonus

#

Ideally you want it to be as high as possible, with Mobility as the dump stat

#

but if you find an 80/80/80 with 23 reload speed you still take it

raw token
#

ok cool thanks

shadow wigeon
#

All this Purg talk I've got to go meme now.

tall mango
vast yew
#

time to pray to hadron

tall mango
vast yew
#

well at least it's mostly fixable

#

Terrifying -> Nexus and Carapace -> Flak

tall mango
#

I can rip warp nexus from the other one

vast yew
#

Unironically would value the Stamina for sprinting over the Carapace damage KEKW_ogryn

tall mango
vast yew
#

actually

#

keep the Carapace

tall mango
#

Did a test run with the other staff and did pretty decently

vast yew
#

in case of future balance changes

#

you never know, they could buff it

tall mango
#

You served your purpose JoeSalute

vast yew
#

o7

tall mango
#

time for another run

queen fog
#

It burned many, now it shall burn them in spirit with the warp nexus

#

OmegaGuardsmanHype crispy

tall mango
#

I get stupid luck sometimes

#

old voidstrike

queen fog
#

I know of one other that has stupid luck, he got multiple 380s in the same week out the regular armory

tall mango
#

Damm

#

Ive never seen a 380 yet

queen fog
#

Ya absolute madlad of a dude

tall mango
#

oh apparently I have this surge staff

#

probably bricked

south gull
#

wish purgatus had a better answer for shield ogryn

#

every other staff does

queen fog
tall mango
#

You can always shriek

south gull
#

waste imo

tall mango
#

I never said it was the best use

south gull
vast yew
tall mango
#

Just to wing it

#

with the last of my plasteel

#

Expected

vast yew
#

lmao

queen fog
#

I remember being excited for terrifying barrage

south gull
queen fog
#

Good times KEKW_ogryn

vast yew
#

well you can at least go Weak Spot -> Flak and Terrifying to Nexus and it'll work OK

tall mango
#

it already has nexus

vast yew
#

I meant flurry

#

derp

queen fog
#

Flurry on surge? Charge time is already cracked but that is basically live socket simulator

tall mango
#

I suppose my grind ends as memory is out

vast yew
#

Focused Channeling?

#

Your only 5 options are Run n Gun, Terrifying Barrage, Focused Channeling, Warp Flurry, and Warp Nexus

tall mango
#

run n gun duh

vast yew
tall mango
#

It does apparently boost your power slightly

vast yew
#

I mean it does but it’s up against 25.5% charge speed

queen fog
#

I do have it on my staves

vast yew
#

I mean it's more a matter of "well the other blessings are suck soooo"

queen fog
#

Very fair KEKW_ogryn

vast yew
#

Plus it does get noticeable at max stacks

#

so y'know

queen fog
#

Love how fast warp flurry can stack up on any staff

strong gulch
#

Ok new build is better but also trash. Creeping flames carry.

queen fog
#

Mad satisfying

#

Also I do recommend dumb run and gun gaming with the flame staff, running in firing m1 like a madman is surprisingly effective

#

Saved like 2 people total with that method

vast yew
#

Run n Gun Purg is weird but works

#

Helps that Charging it isn't as impactful

#

as it only affects the duration, not the damage, of the subsequent attack

queen fog
#

Yea helps with the choice of β€œdo I wanna be a flame sprinkler or a flame hose”

#

Cuz a lot of situations only call for one rather than the other

flint plover
#

Not sure what to do with this one -- Change out the blessings for uncanny and deflector, or keep slaughterer and changed infested to flak?

vast yew
#

what does it show on a Heavy2 Headshot for Maniacs

#

if you press V then E to view attack breakdowns

flint plover
#

1060

vast yew
#

ah 70 finesse

#

lemme check something

#

okay well you can still one-tap Mutants if you have a single Warp Charge

#

actually you probably need 2

#

since that's only 20% Maniacs

#

well personally I think I'd swap Unstable to Uncanny

#

and then swap Infested to either Specialists (to one-tap Mutants with 0 warp charges)

#

or Unyielding/Carapace

#

depending on how the breakpoints are

kindred ivy
#

i have a decent obscurus, the problem is that its a obscurus DX

#

having to L1, H2, then cancel block

#

is annoyn

flint plover
#

Huh, didn't know mutants counted as a specialist. Thank you

vast yew
#

ye

kindred ivy
#

everyone in that area

#

with the mutie

#

is spechal

heavy wigeon
flint plover
#

gotcha

potent birch
#

any tips for a newbie psyker? im currently level 7

peak kelp
#

I am finding assail nice for leveling

proven blaze
#

as a psyker, learn to block, dodge, and not blow up

austere warren
#

What does Malefic Momentum interact with?

#

The wording is wide enough but usually there's limits. Just curious if people know off the top of their head here.

peak kelp
#

are you talking about what counts as a warp attack and what doesnt?

half iron
severe folio
kindred ivy
#

can pretty much clear anything

torpid totem
#

How do I make Smite not feel so horrible? I’ve got a pretty cookie cutter EP setup but it just feels so terrible to use, I want to like it so bad

strong gulch
half iron
#

with swag

strong gulch
#

But if you don't like it, then you don't like it.

kindred ivy
#

but u need a very good elite killer

gusty furnace
kindred ivy
#

the main drive with EP smite is the fact that it can/needs finish off any elite u dont onetap

bleak tulip
#

you dont use smite for damage

kindred ivy
#

for example

gusty furnace
#

holding enemies in one place does literally nothing if the team doesn't kill them.

bleak tulip
#

thats basically it

gusty furnace
#

Its best used with competent pre-made teammates

kindred ivy
#

wrong, both of you

#

but allright

gusty furnace
#

preferably while in VC so you can bitch at them KEKW_ogryn

bleak tulip
#

or just use vent

kindred ivy
#

my revolver, can onetap MOST elites, but in the offchance the revoler doesnt kill them, EP smite will finish them off

#

alongside the horde

bleak tulip
#

so you at least do something while smiting

kindred ivy
#

since EP smite doesnt need vent to kill hordes

lethal lagoon
#

Why do the special mutants still have 4k health, but take increased damage, why not just give them less health?

kindred ivy
#

and not shoot

lethal lagoon
#

special as in the modifer mutants

kindred ivy
#

(yeha vent helps, but its not necessary)

lethal lagoon
#

They take increased gun damage though?

kindred ivy
#

they dont iirc

#

they only take increased melee dmg

#

like dogs

#

also number big funny

lethal lagoon
#

The dogs have low health

#

The special dogs I mean

bleak tulip
#

probably because its easier to just give em a modifier than changing their health value

lethal lagoon
kindred ivy
#

oh

#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

#

i dont notice them

lethal lagoon
#

Atm they just pad the scoreboards lmao

kindred ivy
#

they are dead or stunned most of the time anyway

lethal lagoon
#

I feel lik a modifer is more work than giving them less health πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

kindred ivy
#

shouldnt be

#

if the game is well coded XD

bleak tulip
#

assume its just a general modifier to everything?

#

instead of just adding a range mod too

kindred ivy
#

i imagine its a feel good moment

#

a mutant having less hp would feel wrong

#

they are chonky boys

#

they need chonky hp bars

bleak tulip
#

also "it just pads scoreboards" is probably not something FS cares about considering there is no vanilla scoreboard Kekw

kindred ivy
lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, but it might affect data collection if they aren't labeled properly

#

They do still use that data

#

There is a vanilla scoreboard, we just can't see it, from my understanding

kindred ivy
#

muties take 3x melee dmg anyway

#

let them have cool HP bars

#

it makes sence

#

they a big and bulky

lethal lagoon
#

You are talking about normal mutants again?

bleak tulip
#

I guess thats semantics, the numbers are being tracked but there probably isnt really a scoreboard?

kindred ivy
#

both

#

the specials frmo modifiers

#

also need to feel like muties

lethal lagoon
#

Special mutants take increased ranged damage.

kindred ivy
#

even if they take extra dmg

#

yeah, they are muties, they need to have the big hp number

#

to feel like mutie

lethal lagoon
kindred ivy
#

else they are just a weird poxwalker

bleak tulip
#

wouldnt know

kindred ivy
#

they prolly have a procedural way to make windows and UI elements

bleak tulip
#

either way, considering they arent using the numbers or the graphics I assume they still dont give a shit lol

#

I'd be surprised if they ever show true lvl either even though its being tracked

lethal lagoon
#

(they are using the numbers), but yeah I guess they just did the usual fatshark and hamfisted in some code to make it work.

#

It is bizzare for them to have the same HP and just take more damage than normal mutants πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

kindred ivy
#

again, its prolly just a feel right moment

#

thye are muties,

#

they have the same hp

bleak tulip
kindred ivy
#

me when mutants have the same hp as mutant

#

i dont get it XD

#

dmg modifier is prolly already a thing

brazen pendant
#

recommendations for this staff?

kindred ivy
#

remover ranged weakspot

bleak tulip
#

thats the worst fucking advice

#

special to crit or flak, flurry to surge if you got it or keep blessings as they are for now

#

there isnt a specialist in the game you need 8% more damage for its actually trash

#

at least weak spot damage does something for everything you shoot at

potent echo
#

||nexus to surge|| cursed advice do not open

bleak tulip
brazen pendant
#

I have surge blessing. is it that much better than flurry?

bleak tulip
#

yes

brazen pendant
#

thanks for the advice everyone!

potent echo
#

Surge is a must I think

#

Without it might as well use brainburst KEKW_ogryn

bleak tulip
#

its such a massive damage increase that it kind of just outclasses everything else

#

like you dont get nexus on void for the crits, you get it because it gives you surge procs

#

if you catch my drift

brazen pendant
#

is blast radius a complete dump stat?

bleak tulip
#

ehh

#

it does apparently impact the size of the projectile too but its fine to dump imo

#

worst case you cant headshot two gunners at once if they stand slightly too far apart

#

pretty niche

potent echo
#

It's the lowest priority stat

#

Just make sure it isn't like 30% or smth crazy

brazen pendant
#

I'll give this staff a whirl. see how it goes

primal plume
#

Assail is still pretty damn good

#

you just have to combo it with other things now

primal plume
cold yacht
#

Idk if it’s true or not but damn does smite feel good to use and is the best crowd control tool in the game

#

Just invalidated the twin hordes on damnation

brazen pendant
#

smite plus a fully charged shriek is so satisfying

cold yacht
#

It is

#

Truly the psykers are greater than any human in the imperium

#

I’m probably gonna get executed for that sentence but who cares psyker just feels good to play

small valve
#

what is the meta staff

ionic frost
#

Ogryn Psyker Space Marine when?

small valve
#

I'm trying to break myself from using gunpsyker

cold yacht
#

Can ogryns even become psykers?

ionic frost
#

i heard there are some

cold yacht
#

Are they like orks where they don’t even know they have it?

small valve
#

least intelligent ogryn

ionic frost
#

You're Ogryn, super strong! You're Psyker, magic powers! You're Space Marine, Super Power Armor buff you!

#

That'd have to be reserved for a solo mode. =P

small valve
#

can't be drawn into the warp if you don't even realize that the whispering isn't normal

cold yacht
#

If I’m being honest just the ogryn space marine would be terrifying as they would need to make a special armour just for the sheer size of the ogryn

ionic frost
#

Emperor talks to me too!

small valve
#

"Bone'ead's sayin' weird stuff again. Sumthin' about a grandfathah. Nevah knew me grandfathah."

ionic frost
small valve
#

psykana power armor

ionic frost
#

Maybe his psyker powers can increase his strength too!

#

Ogryn Psyker Space Marine Blitz is Throw Leman-Russ!

cold yacht
#

Part of me wishes for a smarter ogryn voice option but that would go against lore since the ogryns in game already have chips in their heads to make β€˜em smarter

small valve
#

the only one that we know for a fact is a bone'ead is objectively the dumbest outwardly

cold yacht
#

I actually like the smarter ogryn

ionic frost
#

I'm bodyguard, I don't want implant.

small valve
#

The brawler is a bone'ead and the implant is just like

#

fucking broken

#

it's cooking his brain slowly

ionic frost
#

Maybe it caught a crusher overhead.

cold yacht
#

Well he would probably die long before the chip does him in

small valve
#

Bully might be a bone'ead but he might also just be angry all the time

ionic frost
#

I thought bully was the one that says he wants an implant?

small valve
#

does he?

ionic frost
#

That's what I thought...

small valve
#

he's like the second smartest of the three

#

lmao

ionic frost
#

So my bodyguard who doesn't want an implant is the smartest. =)

#

Implant dumbest.

small valve
#

he might even be the most intelligent conventionally, the bodyguard actively shows an interest in learning though

ionic frost
#

I do have trouble saying MEDICAE though... =P

#

Medici

small valve
#

Brawler's bone'ead might still be working tho because of the three the brawler is the only one I've observed actively showing leadership tendencies

mighty fractal
#

Bully is the one who says he doesn't want an implant

#

he's smart enuff

#

And honestly, he is

small valve
#

he shows leadership tendencies in that he congratulates his teammates over minor shit, which, for a squad of ogryns, would be very fitting

potent echo
#

Something about strength in ignorance and him being the strongest KEKW_ogryn

small valve
#

His obsession with rations might also be a side-effect, it'd make sense for a bone'ead to be talking about rewards all the time to remind the others why they're fighting

ionic frost
#

All I know is: BIG DAMN HERO MEEEE! ;)

potent echo
#

I think he is just hungry

#

He talks about eating mutants and hounds

small valve
#

Regular killing machine, that's me!

potent echo
#

Or even bursters

small valve
#

bro just fuckin chomps down on the giblets that fly into his mouth and doesn't get sick

potent echo
#

Ever get a little bit of grit stuck in your teeth

small valve
#

luvs the emprah too much to get sick

cold yacht
small valve
#

yeah but like... just eat the scabs, they're probably not as slimy and diseased

kindred ivy
#

i thought i was on the wrong chat for s asecond

small valve
kindred ivy
#

well since this is psyker chat

small valve
#

ogryn superior

kindred ivy
#

have you ran EP smite today yet?

cold yacht
small valve
#

have i wot

kindred ivy
#

EP smite

#

also ogryns are cool

#

except when they rez me on fire

#

which htey seem to do a lot

cold yacht
small valve
#

I don't know what ep means 😦

kindred ivy
#

enhanced psyonics

small valve
#

I'm not gamer enough

potent echo
#

Extra -----

small valve
#

Anyway, what's the best staff

potent echo
#

The one you like the most

cold yacht
#

Yes

kindred ivy
#

the one u find the funniest

#

i run the Bullet Blast staff

small valve
#

I thought I'd like the lightning one but I wanted it to be more like smite

kindred ivy
#

called zanora snubnose revolver

small valve
#

I usually use the revolver too

small valve
#

gunpsyker rocks

small valve
#

I like the sound of a skull going crunch

#

also I'm doing penances 😦

cold yacht
#

Smite can stun everything except monstrosities

#

Who cares how it dies to your blade or your allies

#

They can’t do anything about the impending death

kindred ivy
#

smite on the psykarnium doesnt showcase how good of a skill it is

#

especiallt the EP smite

small valve
#

Smite rocks

#

and having read EP

#

it's what I would prefer to run usually

#

Assail is good and all but smite...

kindred ivy
#

the thing is, the damage will seem a tad low still, however it WILL kill hords and all shooters/runners wihtout any problem

#

if u have the EP version

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you will ofc run shriek flame to help it

cold yacht
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Only when you look upon the foolish masses stuck in place do you understand the true power of smite

kindred ivy
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EP smite dps is 125 , which is higher than the shirek flame.

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what i like baout it is it will finish off any elite my revolver shot and didnt kill

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(for maulers, ogryns and muties i need the flame vent also).

small valve
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fuck I forgot to switch back to my revolver

kindred ivy
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a elite kill + vent will be more less 9 stacks of flame into the targets around it

small valve
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the horde when I'm not running a powerful weapon...

cold yacht
kindred ivy
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the flames dont spread as nicelly as smite, as the stacks dilute when u kill a enemy and wildfire procs

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however, the flames + smite cascades into loads of other elites dying

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something that "just flame vent" cannot achieve/achieve as easelly

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its a build that really doesnt seem to work on the psycarnium, and the numbers seem all weird. but ive been getting win after win with it at auric damnations

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and auric maestorms.

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even if u dont do dmg, the EP smite will actually chip away quite a bit of HP from everything.

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unlike smite which wont kill shit

cold yacht
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Alright I’m gonna go play again give me 3 reasons I should play my psyker once I log in

kindred ivy
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dont listen, just ot my words try revolver (handcannon, surgical), smite, vent shriek, and EP

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ZAP

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ZIBBIDY

ZOP

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🫳 ⚑

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⚑ handleft XX handright⚑

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⚑ handleft XX gun

hollow spruce
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what are the duelling sword blessings to take?

kindred ivy
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gun2 XX 🫳 ⚑

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uncanny

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shred

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is pretty good

hollow spruce
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i have shred and reposte

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riposte

kindred ivy
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uncanny is just vern important if u wanna take down crushers or maulers with your sword

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also DS4 is currenlty buster op

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so uhh, use XD

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maniac dmg is good to let u oneshot muties by stabbing their head as they get close (a crit iwll also work)

robust sierra
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is the +1 jump on smite necessary?

kindred ivy
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personalyl? i like it