psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Just pick more plasteels.

[harsh urchin]

but to me it sounds like grinding for plasteel is pure suffering

[vast yew]

POV: you're playing with bots

[untold widget]

welcome to darktide

[harsh urchin]

so i just play the game and gather mats naturally

[plucky flax]

Actual bots. Idk why they didn't pick plasteels nor do the objectives. Mfw I have to do hab dreyko end event by myself.

[vast yew]

lmao Meddloid too busy holding right click to do literally anything

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like queueing for hab dreyko is accepting your emperor-given duty to do all the scans.

[vast yew]

carried the objective 5m and said "nah that sucks"

[viscid matrix]

Those names even look like bots

[vast yew]

least the other 2 did the objective a bit

[plucky flax]

Maybe they were all AI.

Oh that thingy is weird.

[lethal lagoon]

Played with actual NPCs lmao

[plucky flax]

I think it's something to do with stims.

Or idk what 'other' mean.

[vast yew]

wtf and Meddloid went down 4 times too

wait

Chaos

how does "Feats" work

does 2-1-2-2 mean they picked the 2nd blitz, 1st aura, 2nd ability, 2nd keystone?

Does that mean that's a freaking EP SMITE DOME Purgatus Psyker? With Illisi?????

[plucky flax]

Ability blitz aura keystone.

[vast yew]

oh okay so slightly better

EP BB Purgatus, all is well

[plucky flax]

So dome, bb, cdr aura, ep.

[vast yew]

if that was EP Smite Purg I was gonna lose it

[viscid matrix]

Kekw, that zealot did 3/4 of their damage as overkill damage, were they just melee with hordes and nothing else?

[plucky flax]

I think it's just hammer things.

[lethal lagoon]

Full charging hammer into horde, JustZealotThings.

[plucky flax]

It does weird damage. I only enable the default damage for memes.

It's not accurate.

[hot zephyr]

Prolly ragdolling corpses already burning to dead from the purgatus psyker

[viscid matrix]

Probably

[plucky flax]

Like it's 900k damage but default damage gives me 1m.

So I did 1 mil btw.

[vast yew]

Chaos padding his stats confirmed

also Chaos what do you use on Chainaxe

[viscid matrix]

The tracking for the scoreboard is not great, but that’s probably why the scoreboard was disabled before launch

FS are terrible at designing some things

[plucky flax]

Headtaker slaughterer flak carapace.

Armoured killer.

[vast yew]

[plucky flax]

It's not as good overall as combat axe.

But it's funny and it does more carapace damage.

Like when you light spam and you stick to stuff and you take damage.

[thin quartz]

what are the benefits of combat axe

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

Brutal Momentum goes brrrr

also Decimator is crazy

[plucky flax]

I don't recommend combat axe on psyker but for me it's best overall melee weapon on zealot.

[hot zephyr]

You get brutal momentum and spam lights on anything but unyielding and caraspace and laugh as everything gettings staggered

Rashad is the chad axe user's preference

[mossy sundial]

I’m a surge smite believer now

I’ve been corrupted

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[viscid matrix]

Before I leave for the day, FS did a shit job with the scoreboard

[lethal lagoon]

What they said: "We think a scoreboard is bad for toxicity."
What actually happened: "We couldn't fit in proper stat collection in between our 2 month vacations."

[viscid matrix]

The scoreboard was laziness or incompetence on FS parts, and because it was inconsistent, they disabled it before launch

All the scoreboard modder did was reconnect the scoreboard
It was part of the game, just disconnected so it wasn’t visible
Devs don’t delete, so many things would break if they did, they disconnect it, so it just floats in the code out of players view and doesn’t break anything

[spice veldt]

you make me proud

[jolly bear]

Convince me to make a psyker before I make a zealot with one sentence.

[lethal lagoon]

Make a zealot, I order you to.

[viscid matrix]

2nd time you have asked that in a hour
Make both, you have 5 character slots

[lethal lagoon]

No, make a zealot. 5 character slots, 1 brain, 1 zealot only.

[teal needle]

I would recommend a thief/gloomstalker build personally

[thorn cedar]

i finally get trauma

but void remains my fave

[teal needle]

Wait shit what game is this

[harsh urchin]

knife zealot with loner obv

and stealth

[jolly bear]

Psyker is giving bad arguments so

Zealot wins

[spice veldt]

death

[teal needle]

👋

[vast yew]

ah yes, the riveting arguments given by Zealots:

[ionic needle]

That's it, Zealot is my main now

[clear heath]

those are both very good reasons to play zealot

[hot zephyr]

Ok, after all that voidstrike build discussion, I ended up here:

[lethal lagoon]

The emperor fills me with his love.

[hot zephyr]

I shall proceed to my mission of uniting blue man with his blue ball

[lethal lagoon]

That's a pretty top heavy tree

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, i'm sure I'll change it like 17 times

But this is where I'm going to start

I can't not take crit aura if i'm taking mettle/PT, and I want to take DD for the luls

[clear heath]

Is 5% peril generation really worth it?

[hot zephyr]

10% total prob worth

Like I said, probably will change it a dozen times. the core build only takes about 24 points so there's lot of swing points

[untold widget]

true aim is your source of crits, so you don't need the aura

CD aura is all you need

[ornate hamlet]

brain burst is fucking supieor

[wicked hornet]

That's about I would say 60% of my T5 runs. I'm like we need this! lol

[ornate hamlet]

BRAIN BURST MASTER RACE RISE UP

[untold widget]

I also don't like battle meditation with warp rider, it's counter productive

but it's a start

[vestal fulcrum]

They wouldn't have the points to properly spec into it (pick Kinetic Resonance) without sacrificing something

And even then

BR on DD keystone makes little sense, no?

[untold widget]

you're running void, you don't need BB

[vestal fulcrum]

And yes, you don't really need BR on Void to begin with lol

[untold widget]

you run BB on something like purg that has no range

[vestal fulcrum]

Void is your BR

[lethal lagoon]

It's nice for smite, but he's not using EP or flaming shriek, so I don't really know what the BM is for.

[untold widget]

its for more voiding, probably

[ornate hamlet]

i run bb and void

[vast yew]

It depends on which you value more: sometimes dropping 2% damage, or being able to fire an extra shot before quelling

[untold widget]

you probably call it the ATM Machine as well

in your capacity as President Head of the Department of Redundancy Department

[lethal lagoon]

I can't figure out who you are talking to.

[vast yew]

think he's referring to running BB and Void

being redundant

[lethal lagoon]

Oh

[untold widget]

I can't type his name because the discord thinks I'm british

[vast yew]

Just call him chadkylegaskill

that's his profile name after all

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm, ATM machine isn't necessarily redundant, because ATM is text speech for at the moment.

[vast yew]

it is when you're referring to an actual ATM

[willow hazel]

still redundant

[vast yew]

just like PIN number

or CAC card

good old RAS syndrome

[vestal fulcrum]

Question: Is it feasible to run a Void build with bare DD, with instead of going for keystone upgrades, getting and all the possible toughness nodes?

[vast yew]

other common examples are LCD display, HIV virus, and PUBG: Battlegrounds

[vast yew]

okay but why tho

[vestal fulcrum]

that's a lot of toughness

that's why

toughness is very hot now

[vast yew]

you don't need that much toughness unless you're standing in the open

[lethal lagoon]

If you want DD to function well, you need at least the 30 second keystone

[vast yew]

and if you're standing in the open you being a goof

[vestal fulcrum]

[vast yew]

(also personally I don't run PC with Surge-Void because I don't feel like it adds enough when I'm Death-star'ing entire waves already but that's 100% a personal thing)

[vestal fulcrum]

I suppose it may be redundant

[vast yew]

it do help when things aren't in a neat little line

but I leave that up to you as a personal choice

[vestal fulcrum]

Battle Meditation might also make sense for chaining void shots?

[vast yew]

does and doesn't

used to run it, don't now, still go back and forth a bit on it

[vestal fulcrum]

If I go BM, I can't go True Aim - this will not do

[vast yew]

for reference: my current void build

aura flip-flops between elites and CDR too

[vestal fulcrum]

Huh. Dropping Soulstealer might be good.

I think Mettle is more than enough toughness replenishment anyway

[vast yew]

I found that surge-crits already give back a ton due to mettle yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind he has bubble, so toughness gen talents aren't as important.

[vestal fulcrum]

With Toughness Regen curio properties, anyway

[vast yew]

and yeah I've got triple TRS so it's not a huge loss, especially with the panic bubble

can get a bit dicey in melee

[vestal fulcrum]

I play Soulstealer-less Surge, but that's a different staff all things considered

[vast yew]

would be better if I had a Shred DS4 to pair with it

[vestal fulcrum]

(Mettle very much keeps it afloat)

[lethal lagoon]

For me Surge is about going Brr with 0 thought, so I grab most of the toughess gen stuff.

[vast yew]

I've flip-flopped on taking Soulstealer with Surge

because I also run Assail and Soulstealer + Assail is insane for toughness gen

but I also really need every point in that build

[next ridge]

what's the best ranged weapon for psyker?

[vast yew]

this is how you start a war

[lethal lagoon]

Metawise, probably Mk5 Columbus.

But the game doesn't need you to have maximum DPS

So Ima just say Surge staff

[vestal fulcrum]

I might settle on this (I've decided to take Soulstealer, still, but I will test a variation without it)

[vast yew]

for Staves, Voidstrike and Trauma are the tops, while Surge and Purg also are good. for guns, Columnus/Laspistol/Revolver are all good choices

[vestal fulcrum]

CDR and Elite damage is flexible, I can just adjust to whatever other Psykers bring to the lobby

[next ridge]

alr

[icy wyvern]

I've seen surge players that make it fuckin sing

[vast yew]

I like CDR with shriek because I'm spamming it; with Dome I don't care as much because if I'm spamming dome something has gone wrong

[icy wyvern]

I've also seen voidstrike players that phone it in and need to be carried

[vast yew]

The beauty of Surge/Assail is you can kinda phone it in and still be effective

no need to aim

just do stuff

[icy wyvern]

trauma's more of a "to whom it may concern"

[vast yew]

yeah trauma is super easy with a good team but if your team is braindead it can get spicy trying to spam it at your feet to keep yourself alive

[harsh urchin]

bare DD is pretty rough but ye it's fine

you wont get too much value out of DD without the +2 stacks and +15duration

but the build is fine

i would suggest throwing assail in there

[vestal fulcrum]

I'd treat DD mostly as an additional source of toughness and movement speed in that case

[lethal lagoon]

My issue with any staff but surge staff is that they aren't that great at killing ranged mobs, and pub gaming means no one kills ranged mobs.

[harsh urchin]

over smite

[lethal lagoon]

So as much as I love using Trauma, it can feel like wasted potential a lot of the time.

[harsh urchin]

or even BB->flayer

if you're planning to mostly be using staff

and not using the blitz much

[vast yew]

not Flayer

Trauma does alright vs. ranged mobs just by spamming left click

or using shriek to kill all the shooters

I run BB on Trauma but it only really comes out to play vs. lots of Gunners or Snipers

maybe a handful of times per mission

[feral verge]

i'd counter that with warp siphon letting you kill more stuff. more dead stuff means more toughness from soulstealer

[untold widget]

void is king at killing ranged, surge suffers from limited range

[lethal lagoon]

That's what I meant by wasted potential.

[vast yew]

woops wrong direction

I need sleep

[lethal lagoon]

Is the best use of Voidstrike's time doing a long-ass charge atk to kill 1 or 2 ranged mobs?

🤷‍♂️ That's my point mostly.

[untold widget]

you don' thave to full charge to kill them

[vast yew]

you don't need to charge it that much, honestly

[lethal lagoon]

Right, but it still feels forever

And if you underjuice it, it's just sad.

[vast yew]

if you underjuice it you just follow with a left click and keep going not a huge deal

[untold widget]

at high enough peril with warp nexus you will still likely proc surge and get the kill

[vast yew]

ideally you do other stuff but if the time comes to plant a dome and kill ranged mobs you can kill ranged mobs just fine

[spice veldt]

if not assail, you could just spam trauma into ranged enemies while moving closer and eventually being able to melee them

[vast yew]

faster than BB anyways

[untold widget]

yeah left click is great for suppressing gunners

[spice veldt]

trauma serves as a fine enabler for fighting ranged patrols

[vast yew]

I mean any staff other than Purg can just left-click at ranged mobs to suppress them

[feral verge]

purg can do it too

[vast yew]

if close enough

if they're on a catwalk then you're SOL

[lethal lagoon]

Look guys, what you are describing is reinforcing my point. Trauma and Void can be doing much better things with their time than what you are describing. But no pub is gonna kill scattered ranged units 9 times out of 10.

[harsh urchin]

ye, the most effective VS builds I have is Bubble->WC; where I just left click all the shooters in the head, and Assail->Vent->DD; where I just use assail to kill shooters

most of the other combinations I've tried fold too hard

if the rest of the team sucks at killing shooters/gunners

[vast yew]

not my experience in Aurics but aight

[harsh urchin]

esp in histg where they spam that shit

[spice veldt]

yeah but why invest into a weapon specifically becaus it's marginally better at dealing with ranged enemies

[harsh urchin]

and you have a billion gunners and shooters

[spice veldt]

who don't even push or pressure you

[ionic sorrel]

I finally beat the super hard mode. I feel my brain is warp fried.

[vast yew]

also retreating is an underated technique when faced with hordes of gunners

force them to close the gap

[vast yew]

ayo gratz!

[spice veldt]

running into ranged patrols is also underrated

[harsh urchin]

i wanna find that josho clip now

[vast yew]

if they're close enough to run into yeah just slide the last 5 feet and start swinging

[harsh urchin]

kekeke

[spice veldt]

die

[vast yew]

if they're perched up on some high ground you can aggro them then back up around a corner and they'll come to you

[untold widget]

if they're close enough for surge, then they're close enough for purg left click imo

[vast yew]

Surge range is 24m

it's actually deceptively far

[quasi junco]

is purg left click also 24m?

[lethal lagoon]

I mean if you are typing in this discord, you often have a meta version of all four staves, so I dunno about that.

[vast yew]

Purg I think caps out at... 16? ish?

[spice veldt]

such a gr8 strat when you're a lone player or the only player that's forward

[vast yew]

yeah super useful when clutching

turn corner, see an entire firing squad, "nope"

you jerks can come to me

[spice veldt]

wrong choice of word from me, "use" instead of "invest"

[vestal fulcrum]

Is there a world where funny Illisi generating 40 peril is valid ?

[spice veldt]

yeah a world where I kill you

[vast yew]

depends on the rest of the Illisi

[feral verge]

yes 100%

[vast yew]

if you're using it on, say, Surge staff where you're not really going to use the special then it's workable. You'll want better eventually, but it works

[feral verge]

unstable power + warp rider = 40% more damage at high peril

[vestal fulcrum]

The question was for the funny, my actual Illisi is more than useful

[lethal lagoon]

It's beautiful.

[unkempt belfry]

Bro just go buy more illisis from brunt armory

[feral verge]

plus you can use it as a peril generating machine, for quelling for toughness with quietitude

warp resistance, on some setups at least, is the one stat where sometimes you want it as low as possible

[vestal fulcrum]

I could, but I have this - the Illisi which is just right for the current reality

[vast yew]

oh dang blessings open too

[vestal fulcrum]

There's no way I'm finding anything better than that soon

My Psyker generally has very good things in comparison to my other characters

[vast yew]

My psyker has good staves and 4/5 of the way there melee

Illisis in particular seem a tad cursed

[feral verge]

I've got godroll everything at this point

[unkempt belfry]

Yeah I'm tryna branch out into different guns at this point

[lethal lagoon]

Like wut?

[unkempt belfry]

Kinda wanna try an autopistol tbh

[lethal lagoon]

Don't see those anymore.

[kindred ivy]

just played again with a purgatus and a void stirke on my team

smite W ofc.

well separate game, 1 with purgatus 1 with voidstrike

[vast yew]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[cosmic sigil]

i ask again for smite 🙂

[vast yew]

I think the answer is to go WS and spam Shriek

but I cannot answer that specific question as I do not run EP Smite

I know generally the Elite talent node is better

[lethal lagoon]

What's your ranged weapon?

Also you are asking again cause you didn't provide any information. Don't make people work to help you lmao.

[thorn cedar]

the breakdown is you can either do 1/13~ kills get you a charge and elites always do or 1/8 kills get you a charge including elites ofc

the elite one is mostly super nice for assail and bb, for smite left side is probs better yeah but EP in general on smite i feel is kinda meh

[wheat tulip]

I use DD because it helps my melee, warp charges atleast give 24% damage to you but EP without scriers sounds like a hard time

[kindred ivy]

for smite
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9adc2137-9c76-4c0b-bab2-c6f84aaf8f77/gun-psycher-is-objectivelly-better

[cosmic sigil]

revolver, my bad i didn't know it was important, i was just talking about that node instead of the other

[clear zenith]

This looks awesome will give it a try

[vast yew]

block efficiency and melee weak spot damage on the DS4
Yeah okay

[kindred ivy]

its decent

legit

its very defensive

the wepaon lets u dodge a bunch

i run 2 block efficiency curious

[cosmic sigil]

it's almost like mine except i'd rather have 15% tg than 5% tg dr

[kindred ivy]

the low stamina gets very well offset by the dodges and block efficiency

[kindred ivy]

understandable

the idea is to kill 1/

1 or 2 elites in a horde

and smite

[cosmic sigil]

but yeah, i just don't know waht to pick for the stacks

[kindred ivy]

guarantee on elite kill

the revolver is basically a sniper and will oneshot anything with a crit except maulers or ogryns

[cosmic sigil]

i started smite this we and i tried with WS and EP

[kindred ivy]

the 125% increased dmg with EP, is pretty good, it does about 125 dps

[cosmic sigil]

WS, i know the deal, it's what i used before patch 13

[kindred ivy]

with flames, u will more less get 6 stacks wform shirek consistently and about 3 more from 1 elite kill .

consistnetly u can achieve 2 elite kills + shirek

so you will clear hordes faster than purgatus or other options

(i know, i tested multiple times playing wiht a purgatus on my team while i used this biuld)

they could njot keep up the horde kill

[cosmic sigil]

so you go overpowering souls?

[kindred ivy]

yeah

on elite kill get those EPs

its super consistent

i think this was with a surge psycher on my team

surge staff

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax Did you get your new mice yet? If so, how are you liking them?

[olive ember]

What mouse you get

I’m thinking about getting a new once since my current one has some weird things with it’s input

[lethal lagoon]

Then definitely take EP on elite kill. Revolver is going to basically be EP stacking in the whole game.

[wraith talon]

holy crap that’s complicated looking

whats this even mean 😭

[olive ember]

Just look at damage

Bigger number better unless it’s damage taken, times downed, etc

[lethal lagoon]

Are those weapon perks placeholders?

[kindred ivy]

surprisingly no

the revlver is insane with those blessings and perks

u can change the extra reload speed for dmg on something

it will oneshot any unnarmored elite

and flak

except ogryns

or any elite

muties and maulers not

but yeah they are good

[lethal lagoon]

Brother weakspot damage does nothing.

[kindred ivy]

clearlly it does

but allright

[feral verge]

im sorry mausmiter, but it doesnt

the way it works is

[kindred ivy]

put what u want in it then

i use it for mobility

[wheat tulip]

weakspot damage makes and breaks weapons

[kindred ivy]

u can see i barelly use melee

on my runs

[harsh urchin]

not on the perk line

[wheat tulip]

like laspistol needs crits or weakpoints or its useless

[harsh urchin]

unfortunately

[feral verge]

say you do 100 damage. when you crit/hit weakspot you do 110 damage. that's 10 extra damage. say you put a crit/weakspot damage perk on the weapon. that will turn the 110 damage into 111 damage.

[kindred ivy]

i use it to block. and dodge

[feral verge]

crit/weakspot daamge literally only adds slight damage

[kindred ivy]

[wheat tulip]

but the weapont isnt 100 to 100 its 150 to 400

[feral verge]

it has b een confirmed as useless

[wheat tulip]

it depends on the weapon but some weapons its amazing

[harsh urchin]

not really unfortunatelyu

the perk line

[spice veldt]

if it lets you hit a breakpoint then sure

[harsh urchin]

is too low

numerically

since it's only 10%

[wheat tulip]

like i wouldnt take it on graia braced but for las pistol its a must

[spice veldt]

but do keep in mind that it's only a 10% bonus and that it only boosts a portion of the damage

[harsh urchin]

if you get the line from talents or from blessings

like a 30% weakspot from vet talent or a 60% from precog

it's pretty good

but 8-10% from a perk line

is not generally enough

to be competitive

with a 25% perk line

[wheat tulip]

wait the weapon perk weakpoint damage?

just take crit chance

if youre going to do that

atleast then it would tie into your talent tree as well as bonus damage

[lyric tulip]

Okay am have a question, how important is warp resistance on a staff and what does people consider the dump stat on staffs?

[olive ember]

Isn’t laspistol flak maniac

[wheat tulip]

laspistol is whatever you want it to be as long as you have over 80% crit

if you dont stack more crit

[harsh urchin]

i think the new laspistol can hit breakpoints with flak unarmored

[olive ember]

Flak unarmoured 🤔

[harsh urchin]

yep

on shotgunners/gunners

[olive ember]

Tho tbh I just run revolvers on my zealots and vets

[wheat tulip]

gunners are for melee anyway

[harsh urchin]

since they both have either unarmored or flak head

[wheat tulip]

same with shotgunners

ragers are the ranged targets

literally just slide towards gunners and they cant do anything to you

[harsh urchin]

uhhhh

lmao

[wheat tulip]

I did that over 10 times in the last 30 minutes

you just zig zag slide

[harsh urchin]

then a special shows up and you get stunlocked to death lol

[wheat tulip]

well maybe, if they hit you, I havent even been dodging them anymore with how erratic my dodges have become, usually the dog just leaps over my head, the trapper does nothing and the mutant helps 90% of the time it grabs me anyway

flamers

those are thigns to be afraid of

wait has fire been fixed? I havent been stuck in it for the last few days

I feel like Ive seen people run through it though

[wicked hornet]

what damage should you be hitting if using Surge staff and smite? Damage I mean scoreboard total damage.

[kindred ivy]

look smite alone can make u reach moer than 700k

ive reached 875 using my smite build

[wicked hornet]

well I'm not even close lol

[feral verge]

i can tell you on any build you want to do atleast 300k bare minimum

[lethal lagoon]

Depends on spawns and your team 🤷‍♂️

[wicked hornet]

trying to figure out what to improve

[willow hazel]

It really depends on game length

[wicked hornet]

I always hit around 300K

[lethal lagoon]

On normal t5s or aurics?

[topaz sleet]

hey so does this mean you have to let soulblaze damage over time kill the enemies or does using flame staff attacks work?

[wicked hornet]

T5 normals

[willow hazel]

in a 30 minute I usually get 600k-900k

but that auric

[lethal lagoon]

That's normal, for a t5 normal, just not that much to kill.

Unless your team is asleep or you rush ahead and try to solo, you aren't going to get that much more.

[wicked hornet]

this is what I did just now. under 300k

I only use smite when hoards and large groups of elites come

[kindred ivy]

ep smite iwll basically clear any horde before any other weapon can get to shoot them

due to them range of it

[feral verge]

dont use it on hordes

[kindred ivy]

use smite.

[feral verge]

smite only elite/special groups

[kindred ivy]

no

smite the horde

EP smite on the horde

will clear any pack of shooters, dreg bruisers and or walkers

on it

[olive ember]

Psure it’s any kill you do while enemy is effected by soulblaze counts

[kindred ivy]

if u shoot 1 or 2 shotgunners doen and ventrin shriek

it will cascade into killing all shotgunners in the pack too

[wicked hornet]

I also spend a lot of time going around getting platsteel and diamante bc people dont look for it or pick it up.

[kindred ivy]

which will cascade into killing the possible ragers

[topaz sleet]

oh ok i was wondering since i have a build that is using flame staff and was wondering if this was working or not

[lethal lagoon]

1st place plasteel with 1st damage is the final goal, so you got one.

[olive ember]

Flame staff is good with it yeah

Tbh any staff with generates enough fire is good with it

So blaze Trauma too

[kindred ivy]

i wish the flamestaff could stunlock too at least

cause its really feeling lacking compared to the smite

when it comes to horde aos

aoe

[feral verge]

ideally, your damage taken should be at or under 300, as well

[kindred ivy]

before the enemies can evne reach the purgatus, likelly smite has killed everything and all elites are also not comming to the purgatus oven cause they are getting stunlocked

[olive ember]

That’s a take but

Eh

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, that's one of the examples of how Smite lowers your team DPS.

[olive ember]

You use EP smite yeah?

[kindred ivy]

yeah

tbh it "lowers" dps, if you team has a brain they will see the elite getting paralyzed

and see the easy kill

[olive ember]

Randos with brains

Already expecting too much

[kindred ivy]

form what i saw on the vet chat, they quite like seeing elites and hordes paralyzed so they can go ham

[willow hazel]

why make your teammates do your job for you?

[kindred ivy]

i haev a revolver

id say it lets them focus more on damage, and nor worry about safety

effecitvelly increasing their dmg

and dont forget the 10% extra dmg

that smited enemies take

[lethal lagoon]

Pretty sure the 10% damage doesn't work with right click

Unless they fixed it

[kindred ivy]

huh

that's ,uh wierd cause if it doesnt work that's another point for me to use somehwere else

[lethal lagoon]

The +1 jump isn't generally impactful either, your smite is hitting the whole map either way.

[kindred ivy]

the starter jump

is higher

u ge tmore enemies at once

right at the start

which can be extremelly cluch

[feral verge]

i've never seen a smite psyker smite a horde and think 'thank god he stunned it'

i only get thankful for elite/special packs

[kindred ivy]

oh yeah i mean the horde isnt the threat, its the elites hidden in it

[feral verge]

i'd rather if the smite psyker just killed enemies

[kindred ivy]

smite kills the horde

[feral verge]

killed the horde

[kindred ivy]

it kills the horde

easelly

EP smite will clear the horde + any shooters inside

and dreg bruisers

[topaz sleet]

smiting horde seems to work that has elites in it

[kindred ivy]

or scab runners

[topaz sleet]

like literally everything i seen gets stunned when ever i use it

i basically spam it constantly when need it

it takes like one second to quell all peril and then i just fire smite again

[kindred ivy]

a EP smiet from 0% peril will clear any hordes

^^

i am commonlly at 0 peril cause i run revovler and cavalry mk4

and ventint shriek cna be used while smiitng

flame vent has a very low CD, so u are also flaming the horde, whihc makes them die even quicker

[severe folio]

vent shriek into a horde will kill it anyway

so EP smite in addition is a redundant

[topaz sleet]

i use the warp shield for my psyker build

pretty much all of my psyker builds uses warp shields since how great it seems(bubble)

[severe folio]

if you have the warp shield why do you need smite

[topaz sleet]

emergency stun basically

especially when game throws like 10 elites at once

[severe folio]

thats 2 emergency tool

well

when the game throw 10 elites at once

just either of the tool should be fine

or any of the staff

can voidstrike into them

or purgatus them

or trauma them

or surge them

[topaz sleet]

well in my experience so far the warp shield may not be enough with how much stuff is happening at once

so why i keep smite as well

[severe folio]

well then maybe you should swap the shield for something else

[topaz sleet]

i perfer to have both just in case

[severe folio]

thats a bit of a redundant

of failsafe

too much “just in case”

[topaz sleet]

well it has helpped alot so far

the warp shield blocking range enemies also helpped alot especially if they are far away and cant use smite on them

[kindred ivy]

not all the time u have vent

but for sure u have smiet

goddamit smite is good

use smite

smiet them

the beloved said i should smite

so i smite,

BELOVED THE ENEMIES ARE ABOUT TO GET SMI- ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

SMITE, THATS A GOOD IDEA

AHA SMITE

BELOVED, A SMITE

SMITE , BELOVED

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ZAAAAAAAAAP

[safe pendant]

Smite makes right

[kindred ivy]

ZIBBIDY ZAP BELOVED

[feral verge]

xbox players are troglodytes

precambrian type mfs

[severe folio]

if they are far away, then using the shield to block them doesnt really help you smiting them

and you are still gonna have to shoot at them with your far range tool anyway

and you dont need yourself to have vent all the time since you only need to vent once when your peril is at 85 to have a lot of little things die

and vent is the only tool of all 3 abilities to reduce its cooldown the more you hit

so most of the time if you are venting correctly you often get it back every 10 seconds

[rustic wharf]

I'm suffering leveling and learning psyker

[wicked hornet]

it's Okay sibling.

[rustic wharf]

I feel like jack of all traits and master of none

[wicked hornet]

what you struggling with?

ah yes

like wise lol only thing I'm good at is platsteel getting

[severe folio]

its leveling so there isnt much to say

[violet oak]

Psyker is the swiss army knife

[rustic wharf]

Ye I think when I hit lvl 30 I'll go back to my gorilla zealot

[violet oak]

This sibling is weak

[rustic wharf]

Hahah

[violet oak]

They desire zealotry

[flint plover]

In a game where literally all things are thrown at you all the time, that is a pretty good thing to be

[severe folio]

being master of none is not a good thing when everything is being thrown at you

[rustic wharf]

You're right

[flint plover]

my bad, in my head I was correcting it to jack of all trades, master of all

[severe folio]

because that means you have the tool to handle anything but you actually cant handle anything

[vocal iron]

wait for bosses to come and you do 0 dmg it will be fun i promise

[flint plover]

I just give up and hug the poor bastards

[vocal iron]

let them hit you while your team hopefully kills it LOL

[rustic wharf]

I'm using scrier gaze and an auto gun to do "decent" damage

[vocal iron]

me too sibling

[severe folio]

thats a correct way to do it

[rustic wharf]

Anyway I'm at lvl 21 right not much left

[ripe yacht]

How long does the orthus offensive last?

[severe folio]

forever

[rustic wharf]

Really?

[severe folio]

forever

[rustic wharf]

And ever

[wraith talon]

and ever?

[vocal iron]

its all a dream

[restive slate]

We are the twins

[wraith talon]

the seer’s dream

[ripe yacht]

https://tenor.com/bAwzY.gif

[wraith talon]

🥔

[ripe yacht]

🍟

[kindred ivy]

what happened?

[feral verge]

I mid-joined a game with 3 Xbox players

Near start of match.

2 were dead, one was alive

Then that one dude died

I had to solo clutch 3 times

10 deaths that game

It was magistrati

I clutched at the start, before the big open room drop down

I clutched at the big open room, before mid event

And I clutched at the long hallway in the prison section

[kindred ivy]

yeah

[feral verge]

Cancer

[kindred ivy]

average console-let

[violet oak]

Banish them to paradise

[wraith talon]

that mission’s hell ngl

not as bad as consignment yard tho

[real lance]

I haven't played Darktide in ages, and have no idea what's happened since that class overhaul patch was dropped...2 months ago now, I think? Heard there was some really busted stuff with psykers that got nerfed only recently. Any general tips to point me toward for getting back into my Psyker? Top-tier builds or loadouts and the like?

[violet oak]

Yes, kill them all

[potent echo]

Only 500 plasteel?

[nova dirge]

does venting shriek still make ur brainbursts faster?

[willow hazel]

if you take the talent

[nova dirge]

where is it

[potent echo]

Only if you take the BR talent, and it's not as fast as before

[willow hazel]

right under BB

[potent echo]

Next to BR

[nova dirge]

oh yeah i see it

[gaunt stone]

Is this new?

never heard of mostly ranged modifier before

[neat summit]

Nope

Shields OP on this one

[gaunt stone]

I swear I have never queued into a mostly ranged only ever seen mostly melee

[cosmic sigil]

Well It depends on your group. For me in pubs it's either stun the elites so that people can regroup / readapt or smite the horde so that they can deal with the elite faster. And Mk4 is pain with horde, especially compared to what I am used to:illisi and caxes

[untold widget]

Ok, so I heard smite was garbage and the worst blitz for psykers. Can anyone confirm?

[nova dirge]

is scriers gaze any good with purg staff?

[zenith zealot]

absolutely not the worst

people that says its the worst either dont wanna pair it with other shxt like warp charges, empowered psyonics, and or venting shriek with creeping blaze

[severe folio]

the worst blitz would be BB

[zenith zealot]

or just dont like the fact that its braindead since its the easiest one to use

[zenith zealot]

uh, honestly wouldnt recommend, but it does increase all dmg by 20%

however spreading your flames faster with venting shriek is alot more relevant

[willow hazel]

the crit chance is good for soulblaze

but it can't be as strong as +6 stacks from Vent

[zenith zealot]

since 20%/30% increase dmg isnt really that big of a deal on soulblaze

[zenith zealot]

idk what crit hits does for soulblaze

its only for the hit dmg on the staff

[willow hazel]

purgatus crits apply 2 stacks

[zenith zealot]

i see, if its only 2, dont see the worth

[severe folio]

at 6 stacks things die

[zenith zealot]

just venting shriek

[severe folio]

purgatus apply 4-5 time over 1 seconds

yeah but we are talking about purgatus

so purgatus is what we talk about

not vent shriek

[willow hazel]

I mean it's twice as many, each 1% crit chance is basically just 1% soulblaze. Up until 16 stacks sat least

[zenith zealot]

u get to reset peril and apply 6 stacks of flames for free

[zenith zealot]

no we're talking about whether or not scriers gaze is worth pairing with purg staff

[severe folio]

oh ok

then we talk about scrier and purg

not, vent and purg

[zenith zealot]

ye

[willow hazel]

it's just really hard for it to be better than vent. But Scier's + an mk4 would make a purgatus build better against crushers

[zenith zealot]

the point of talking about vent is giving a reason why scriers isnt worth pairing with purg

[severe folio]

you get more boss damage and horde damage out of your purg ifyou pair it with scrier

since you will always reach max 16 stack in a few second

and the fire rate of purgatus combine with its scrier damage buff goes out harder

[willow hazel]

Going from 16 -> 22 stacks with Vent is 50% damage. Has to be better than +10-40% from gaze

[severe folio]

it is but its still a damage that burn slower than purgatus fire rate

even against flak both will be just as usual

the issue is the scrier is pretty dangerous to be using with purgatus

[ornate hamlet]

Well, depending on crit strings, ticks and all that jazz

Is a purgatus crit done on the entire RMB?

[severe folio]

i dont remember how crit string work

but no, i dont believe a single crit will string along an entire RMB

[ornate hamlet]

Ideally you'd get the amount of ticks the RMB does, get the crit string, get the crit chance, calculate an average and say "yeah, this is how every RMB behaves"

So if you do idfk 10 ticks with an RMB and have 50% crit chance, 5 ticks will crit (provided no crit string) and that means 15 stacks because it's 5 + (5*2)

It won't always be 15 stacks, but it would be an accurate average

Crit strings might get into bullshit like a crit string of idfk 5 hits starting when you have 4 or less ticks left and giving you less than it otherwise would

But that also can be accounted for with stuff like "the crit string has a 10% chance to be 20% or whatever less effective"

As in if you start critting at 1 hit, you have a 10% chance of having a single crit

[severe folio]

you are capable of reaching max stack cap in a single RMB with scrier yes

[ornate hamlet]

2 hits left means another 10% chance of this time having two crits

All provided the fictional example of 10 ticks per RMB and 5 crits on a string

[severe folio]

idk if crit string happen on it but so far most of the sb count i do seem to be leaning towards that

[zenith zealot]

Is the boss dmg even worth it

Like personally, i would never consider purg staff a boss killing weapon, and hence would not bring anything that would benefit purg staff in a way that it enhances boss dmg potential

And instead would only try to maximize its efficiency at its actual job which is horde clear

[kindred ivy]

me on my way to smite everything and help my team

[sinful olive]

my last experience with an xbox player featured the guy ripping a bong into the mic, coughing into the mic for 10 mins after, and being downed 7 times and killed twice

I try to be happy that the audience of the game has grown but good fucking god

[cosmic sigil]

i only use scryer on my columnus with bb, but how is it to use it with smite or assail? Except dangerous of course.

[severe folio]

idk how scrier with smite

since smite dont crit thats a whole big loss

and both build up peril really high so you dont want that either

with assail well

[cosmic sigil]

i never tried other things than what's generally recommended

[kindred ivy]

i recccomend my build generally

so do give it a try

[untold widget]

wonder what build that is

oh wait, its smite vent

the generally accepted best build

iirc you also run DS4 and revolver

how daring we are

[flat moat]

is this worth?

[untold widget]

swap terrify and unarmored for nexus and flak

[kindred ivy]

u went from my build is shit

[untold widget]

and yeah

no

[kindred ivy]

to its the ebs tbuild

lmao

[untold widget]

I went from nobody cares about you

to nobody cares about you

[kindred ivy]

lmao

projecting much?

[untold widget]

it never had anything to do with your build

[kindred ivy]

:v

[flint plover]

i sense some anger

[untold widget]

you're just so vocal about being mainstream

its

[kindred ivy]

motherless behaviour

[untold widget]

sad

[kindred ivy]

eveyrone here exclusivelly talks about how voidstrike

is good

[untold widget]

cause it is

[kindred ivy]

generates peril

me no likey

[untold widget]

and literally everyone everywhere talks about revolver

[kindred ivy]

well, i am the revolver psycher

[half iron]

i’m everyone everywhere

[kindred ivy]

i will talk about it

[untold widget]

you're a revolver psyker

[half iron]

i’m cooler about it. i’m him.

[kindred ivy]

[red cave]

Revolver is pretty great

Basically better than any staff

[ionic sorrel]

I use a revolver on my Assail/Bubble Psyker.

[untold widget]

mfer comes in here with the most generic meta build and acts like he invented psyker

[half iron]

i invented psyker first

[red cave]

META BUILD

Lmao

[half iron]

i am john psyker

[ionic sorrel]

Hey John, welcome back.

[half iron]

omg thankssss

[untold widget]

it'd be like coming in here talking like "Guys, I have this build. Ok, so hear me out. It's Trauma staff with Blazing spirit and Warp Nexus with max charge and blast radius. I also use dueling sword 4! It's so good, you guys!"

[red cave]

That's nothing like it at all, wtf?

[untold widget]

are you his groupie?

[kindred ivy]

i dont use trauma

i dont use staves

barelly any psycher here runs revolver

[untold widget]

it was a hypothetical scenario

[red cave]

We are both mice, so naturally 🍷 🐭

[untold widget]

use your reading comprehension you learned last year in english 101

[kindred ivy]

DS4, u see my melee kills

i dont use it

[harsh urchin]

half my aurics

[kindred ivy]

i have blocking cost and weakspot dmg

[harsh urchin]

everyone has a revolver

except the ogryns

[kindred ivy]

i never see it

[harsh urchin]

lololol

[kindred ivy]

legit

revolve rpsychers, never

[untold widget]

because

its

boring

[kindred ivy]

also my DS4 has block efficiency and weakspot dmg

nah it isnt

i find it pretty fnu

my revovler has elite dmg and flak dmg

[half iron]

most gunkers i see run the stub or the amongus battle rifle

[kindred ivy]

huh, interesting

but thats scriers right?

i dont use scrier

[untold widget]

for columnus

you use scriers

for revolver you dont

because of the firing speed

[kindred ivy]

yeah but i am talking to hoolingan

[untold widget]

this is general knowledge

[half iron]

i hool again

[kindred ivy]

i have yet to see a single psycher

using my build, usually they have a staff, and have nowhere near the peril

to keep the thing up

[untold widget]

most psykers use smite, vent, and warp siphon

like probably 90%

[kindred ivy]

i use EP

:smite 💪

125 dps 🤌

perfecto

[half iron]

hehe vent

[kindred ivy]

DUN DUN DUN DUN DURUDUM

WHEN THE BELOVED IS SUS

[half iron]

though i do like me some scrier’s
john psyker feels powerful and announces it so

[kindred ivy]

one day i'll try amongus psycher

one day

untill then my smite will damage everyhting

[half iron]

stub has me in a marriage that i’m too lazy to get out of

[wraith talon]

warp flurry’s bad right

[kindred ivy]

its funny

[lethal lagoon]

You want warp flurry on Surge staff, Purg staff, and Rending Trauma

[kindred ivy]

ok what shud i put on this shit?

the shot sometimes is fune

[lethal lagoon]

Infested to flak, hit and run to fire frenzy.

[kindred ivy]

arraight

[azure bridge]

There any chance in hell FS will buff surge staff damage in the future?

[willow hazel]

Anything can happen, but it really doesn't need a buff

[azure bridge]

I'm just kinda miffed that it comes like 10 damage away from one shoting certain enemies

[azure bridge]

Does the mark 4 devils claw work well for us?

[static needle]

Is this good? blessings and perk wise?

[harsh urchin]

Ye dclaw is good

[potent echo]

Which ones, gunner/flamer?

[urban sandal]

yeah, you could do either blaze trauma or rending shockwave with that

[potent echo]

Amazing, flak is best, you can either make it a flurry rending or nexus blaze

[untold widget]

as long as you're not trying to kill crushers with it, it'll probably serve fine

[potent echo]

Unarmored is worthless on trauma though so swap that for sure

[urban sandal]

I use it, really just for emergency situations

[azure bridge]

Yeah I have max damage staff with 6 warp charges 5% elite damage and it's like 10 damage off of a one shot with a full charge. It's just annoying

[potent echo]

You have the 10% ranged node?

[static needle]

what is each best at?

[azure bridge]

Isn't it 5%?

[potent echo]

Nexus blaze cultists will tell you it's the best at everything

[urban sandal]

rending is more teambased whereas blaze is full damage

[static needle]

hmm

[potent echo]

Oh maybe, I forgor

Rending is just good and always works

[azure bridge]

Also last I checked that doesn't affect the RMB attack

[potent echo]

Also flurry is nice because faster casts

[static needle]

perk wise, should I change unarmored or make both blessings lvl 4?

[potent echo]

It doesn't? Sad

[urban sandal]

unarmoured to cara for rending, maniac for blaze

[azure bridge]

Indeed

[static needle]

wait what

[potent echo]

Change unarmored to anything you want

[static needle]

you can do unarmored dmg to carapace dudes??

[untold widget]

if you're over 76% peril with Warp Rider and 6 warp charges, your surge staff should be 1 shotting most non ogryns. Dreg gunners maybe not

[urban sandal]

[potent echo]

No you misread

Dreg gunners strongest

[untold widget]

what perks you have on it?

[potent echo]

Extra 200 hp the bane of all nerds

[urban sandal]

if you're doing rending shockwave trauma change it to carapace, if you're doing blaze trauma change it to maniac

is what I meant

[potent echo]

Maniac for rending is fine too

[urban sandal]

it is

[potent echo]

Tbh the secondary perk for trauma isn't too important

Flak is all you need

Even maulers are considered as flak

[static needle]

ey but 2% extra crit chance aint worth it tho?

compared to a free perk

[potent echo]

No

2% crit lmao

[static needle]

lul

[potent echo]

2% for 1 cast at 80% peril

[static needle]

just checking how important the crit is

[urban sandal]

either way you're gonna have to change one of the blessings

[static needle]

ive barely used trauma before so idk

[static needle]

y im changing rending to blaze

[potent echo]

Oof the cultist

[static needle]

i wanna kill, not just team support

[potent echo]

They can't keep getting away with it

Rending kills things for yourself also

It just happens to help your team

[kindred ivy]

why ghost ping?

i got pinged ehre

i think

[azure bridge]

Am hunting that delicious rending trauma god roll atm

[potent echo]

Also nexus/blaze you don't have flurry

Trauma no flurry is bleh

[static needle]

huh really?

hmmmmm

[potent echo]

You can always go full meme flurry/nexus

It's uhhh a thing

[static needle]

maybe rending then tbh

[potent echo]

At least you can swap to nexus/blaze when you want to

[static needle]

lol i hate the blessing locks, legit shouldnt be a thing. Perks im okay with cause thats just damage numbers but blessings determine playstyles

FS has a dog ass weapon system ngl

[azure bridge]

Crafting as a whole is pretty awful in this game

[urban sandal]

I think we all know that

[static needle]

yeah its the absolute worst thing about this game, no comparison

literally half the reason i hang around here is to ask about what i should do with a weapon cause i dont wanna make a mistake

such dogshit

[urban sandal]

in fatshark's eyes that's probably a good thing since it's promoting the social aspect

[lethal lagoon]

I mean this is like 1% of the playerbase.

Most players just yolo their blessings

[static needle]

its not that deep to them my guy

[static needle]

minmaxing curse intensifies

its just.... annoying that I have to make permanent choices when min maxing for high level

[wraith talon]

no matter how hard i try i always end up min/maxing

[static needle]

that just means u really like the game and have a splash of build OCD lmao

[wraith talon]

i just get a little too competitive at times i think

although, im not too anal about the whole getting T4 and top stats

[static needle]

tbf i am probably speaking for myself

[potent echo]

Yes

[static needle]

same, T3 is more than enough, the rest is skill

[wraith talon]

yea some of the redd min/max posts are insane

[wraith talon]

yea i dont even wanna touch auric lmao

[potent echo]

When you cant find success with the game but you find success with dice rolls

[static needle]

lol u dont need T4s to succeed in aurics

[static needle]

do be like that hahah

[north cradle]

Yeh I have a Surge Staff with two T3s, it's fine.

[potent echo]

Also I heard some of them are faked

[north cradle]

It kills Crushers in the event no-one else can, which has happened to me before

[static needle]

bro my luck is honestly scary, at least i dont suffer as much as some of yall

[urban sandal]

cant suffer from rng if you never craft

[wheat tulip]

Alright I found a single build that I wouldnt take DD for and thats scriers gaze warp charges -66% peril generated. That sounds insane with all the damage buffs you get out of it too

[half iron]

jane hadron is a meaniehead she stole my plasteel my fucking plasteel she said her shrine was this big and stole all my plasteel

[static needle]

why do you want scrier's with warp charges? they contradict each other, no? your charges disappear when u activate it

[static needle]

🥲

[wheat tulip]

because you then kill the elites in a mixed horde, or just mass kill a horde, get the charges back, keep scriers up for 40+ seconds because of peril generated and have no cooldown so its up again after

where you just repeat

[static needle]

wait does scriers generate at a slower rate with warp charges?? dafuk

thought it only affected the peril attacks you do

[wheat tulip]

with the -20% it goes from 12 seconds doing nothing to 15.3 seconds

so with -66% you get what, 20 seconds if you dont quell or kill things?

just kill things, get warp charges, and quell

[static needle]

eh

[wheat tulip]

with 54% damage on top of it

and 20% crit rate on a void

[static needle]

id rather just run psychinetics aura with DD and use scrier's in short bursts, as its meant for

[wheat tulip]

and 15 second cooldown if you dont kill any elites/specs while its up

[static needle]

how u get it down to 15?

[wheat tulip]

I havent used it, I plan on doing it when I roll a double shot on crit voidstrike, but it sounds like on aurics you can chain it

[wheat tulip]

45% from warpcharges 10% from aura

[static needle]

This is my scrier's void build

[wheat tulip]

so its actually more like 14 seconds assumng you dont have and curios with cooldown

it also means you need to kill 9 elite/specs during its duration to get it up as soon as it goes down

[potent echo]

Scriers is such a fair weather ability

[static needle]

This build youre proposing is gonna be even more burst damage reliant because its only gonna be for like half the duration of your scriers that you can be outputting max damage, its very conditional.

[potent echo]

Sure it's cool and you get big numbers but if you are under any sort of pressure you just crumble

[static needle]

it only reaches its true potential after youve gotten 6 kills in scriers

[static needle]

word

can attest to this

[wheat tulip]

if you pop it during a horde thats 90+ kills or 2-3 charges for free almost instantly, then you just chain it by pushing forward while quelling

[potent echo]

Or you can just like not use scrier and still be perfectly fine too

I guess scrier let's you one shot dogs and flamers easier

[static needle]

bruh thats what ur assail or melee is for

or just charge shots in long corridors

[potent echo]

Eh ever since the flamer range buff

[static needle]

trying to kill dogs with voidstrike in CQB is a fools game lol

[potent echo]

It's not so easy to melee them lmao, esp if they are behind horde

[static needle]

then smite and control the situation or assail

ur not gonna use BB so the problem is solved

no matter what

[wheat tulip]

the alternatives arent that great, bubble is for arenas where you ahve to stand still, but arenas are fairly easy to clear since they have known spawn points. Then Vent is just quell faster, but if you generate almost no peril you dont really need to worry about that. 20% extra crit for voidstrike puts you at what, 45% without the aura?

thats double damage almsot half the time

[potent echo]

Vent uh

Kills everything

[static needle]

uh does it kill ogryns tho

[potent echo]

Even if it doesn't that's why you have void

[wheat tulip]

if you think Im goig to run into a crowd to vent instead of popping it to remove peril when Im already killing everything

[static needle]

i concur: vent is the answer

[potent echo]

I always go into potw before I vent

Maximum effectiveness

[static needle]

thats what u wanna do with human elites; knock em over and them light em up with voidstrike

works like a charm

[wheat tulip]

I mean it does have a 25% peril thing for 5 seconds but that just replaces the 36% from warpcharges that you use

[static needle]

not rlly u can just reach 100 with smite and time it correctly?... right?

[wheat tulip]

Id rather take a second to quell or swap to melee, with DS youre practically untouchable zipping around everywhere

[potent echo]

Uh you can smite to 95%, then get a full ball off

Then vent

[wheat tulip]

granted I havent taken psyker to auric damnation but Ive done hiintensity

[static needle]

again, why not just time it to vent at 100 when smiting?

thats what i do

[potent echo]

Sure that's fine too

[static needle]

when u take psyker to aurics you'll very likely see that your proposed build wont hold up. Vent is a huge hlep

[potent echo]

It's a great fair weather ability

Where you don't get backstabbed by a horde or crusher wave spawning behind you

[wheat tulip]

I just finished leveling it yesterday I still dont have the gear for it, my voidstrike has a few 60s on it. Im sure it also wouldnt work in maelstrom but Ive done auric on my zealot and its not that bad as long as you have someone to chaff clear in the back

zealot is half my problem I play psyker like Im immortal

because zealot IS immortal

[static needle]

sooo what abilities are best with trauma? still vent?

[potent echo]

Vent works with everything that generates peril

You can take shield too if you want to play support

[static needle]

it feels like shield is almost never worth it tbh

[potent echo]

Like babysitter level support

[static needle]

yeah.... unfortunately

[wraith talon]

*the machine is immortal

[static needle]

soooo.... is warp charges okay for trauma?

[potent echo]

If you team runs into an open room with shooters and stuff you can give them a blanket for like 8 seconds

Yea warpcharges and venting is classic combo

[spice veldt]

shield is nice for a "can't possibly get fucked by flamers or trapper" area which is nice

[static needle]

empowered psionics with BB tho.... 👀

[spice veldt]

and also because it's the only other option besides scrier's if you're going along the right side

and without pathing into mind in motion

[wheat tulip]

shield also ruins the worst boss, nurglet, and his spitting problem

[obtuse moth]

for some reason the bubble seems to stop mutants too

[potent echo]

Then you BB some flamer/sniper/trapper/bomber and lose your EP stacks

[spice veldt]

yeah i think it stops them when you dodge?

[static needle]

oh

[untold widget]

inb4 you can just dodge the barf from nurgles

[potent echo]

What

[spice veldt]

like you dodge them and they'll immediately stop on the bubble

[potent echo]

That sounds

[spice veldt]

if you're near the bubble and the mutant is running into it when you dodge it

[potent echo]

Like fatshark alright

[wheat tulip]

sure you can, or you can dodge in and out of the bubble and it sits perfectly still for your team to quickly kill it from behind

[potent echo]

Bonbon is a threatening boss?

People just need to know how to bait it's spit so people can hit it's pimple

And not just keep running

[wheat tulip]

the nurglet is the only one that constantly takes a few wound bars of corruption from my team

[untold widget]

shield in a competent team is almost useless, because everything shield saves them from they usually have an answe rfor anyways and they're on top of their shit so it's a non issue. Shield in an incompetent team is invaluable, because it shores up all of their shortcomings

[wheat tulip]

everything else is cake

[spice veldt]

bonbon is threatening if you ever meet it in a corridor and you can't comfortably get behind it

[wheat tulip]

key word competent

[untold widget]

on the other hand, flaming vent is useful in any team comp whatsoever

[spice veldt]

or i'm running a crit columnus build and can just magdump its mouth

[potent echo]

Just play aurics you might get at least 1 on your team

Other than yourself of course

[obtuse moth]

does rending affect shield modifiers?

[spice veldt]

i hate the bonbon

[wheat tulip]

people actually stand in its trail and just rack up corruption trying to hit the yellow spot

[potent echo]

Bonbon does to melee so fast if you hit it's pimple

Eh you take like 20-30 hp worth of corruption in total

[wheat tulip]

you can dodge back fast enough to avoid it with a DS or knife so thats not a big deal, I usually end up doing that for a bit if someone else has its attention

and then it chases me and I have to dodge in and out of range

[potent echo]

You hit the pimple when it's spitting, then back off as it slams, repeat

[wheat tulip]

its got a full second of melee windup so its pretty easy

[potent echo]

Until it targets you, then you bait the spit

[obtuse moth]

if you're running in a competent team your loadout doesn't matter, its the bad teams where it does

[wheat tulip]

if it leans forward just dodge back

[potent echo]

True lmao but usually build advice revolves around solo clutching

[wheat tulip]

shield also has the upside where you dont have to dodge in melee because your toughness regens faster then the random poxwalker behind you can take it down

[potent echo]

When your team is down and you need to make the difference

[potent echo]

One poxwalker

[wheat tulip]

theres always one that gets behind you every time you start meleeing

[potent echo]

What if like 40

[wheat tulip]

if theres 40 you just dodge to the left and suddenly the hordes merge

and you start swinging again

[potent echo]

Oh so you do have to dodge

[obtuse moth]

LOL