psyker-class

[potent echo]

Huh

[kindred ivy]

we had a psycher with smite and void strike

he insisted oin using his staff most ofthe time

every time he smited we had leeway to do objetives

[potent echo]

Like smite will kill hordes at all

[kindred ivy]

we could go hard on the elites

it kiss

[potent echo]

Smite void is such a cope build

[kindred ivy]

kills

smite + flame push

will decimate hordes

instantly

[potent echo]

Well that's venting for you

[kindred ivy]

yeah vent + smite

will not only clear hordes

[potent echo]

You don't need smite

[kindred ivy]

ofc i do

it staggers

[potent echo]

Venting itself kills hordes

[shell maple]

[kindred ivy]

yeah what about the crusher, mauler, shotgunners, etc in the horde?

[potent echo]

You kill them with

[willow hazel]

Vent again

[kindred ivy]

CC is extremelly iportant

[potent echo]

Not tell your team to kill them

Yea nah

[kindred ivy]

stunning entire hordes of elites

[potent echo]

Stay cool smitekers

[kindred ivy]

or when the 7 crushers come out

you'll want smite

[bleak tulip]

I really wish they added a good blitz to the game

[willow hazel]

Nah, a melee weapon with Uncanny so the Crushers actually die to soulblaze damage

[kindred ivy]

ok, 1 cruhser

what about the other elites

or you can:
sotp every enemy in the map with smite

so your team can focus on damage

[bleak tulip]

idk I just void the crushers

[untold widget]

If the horde is on you, Void is not your option. If the horde is running towards you, void is the option

it's that simple

[kindred ivy]

if enemies exist

[bleak tulip]

and I say that as someone who runs smite in lieu of a better blitz existing

[kindred ivy]

smite wont let them move

and i say that as someone who runs smite revovler

and vent

[untold widget]

well of course you love smite, you run a gun that can't do shit against hordes

[willow hazel]

They only exist because smite does no damage

[bleak tulip]

just shoot the crushers then you have like the second best gun to do it with

[kindred ivy]

that cope

revovler kills elites

smite stuns them when they are too dense

[untold widget]

Staves ensure they aren't too dense

[kindred ivy]

like when the gang of maulers, curhser, rager etc etc

[untold widget]

most of them anyways

[kindred ivy]

they are

[untold widget]

surge notwithstanding

[willow hazel]

Isn't the revolver already strong against Crushers?

[kindred ivy]

yeah the revolve ris my elite killer

so i can smite

the flames that spread from elites will damage the horde, the smite wont let any enemy move

and my team can play more agressive

and clear shit faster

[untold widget]

I just run purg and DS4

everything dies

[bleak tulip]

you'd clear shit faster if you did damage instead of smiting

[kindred ivy]

nah

[untold widget]

yeah

[kindred ivy]

i woudnt

[bleak tulip]

yeah

you would

[untold widget]

well you wouldn't, but we do

[kindred ivy]

nah

as someone who smited the twins, and auric maestroms and every auric misison

smite is very good

for your team to play

[untold widget]

its good CC

[kindred ivy]

yeah

[untold widget]

terrible damage

[kindred ivy]

that's the point

then u pew pew elites

iwth revovler

flames spread

and boom

everything dies

smite lets all that happen

without a single risk

[untold widget]

I just purge the horde and stab the crushers

[bleak tulip]

this is certainly one of the takes of all time

I guess i'll ignote this person now lmao

[kindred ivy]

a single elite kill into smite will proc enough flames to ocnsume a horde too

lel cope

i killed hardmode twins, auric missions etc

[untold widget]

and?

[kindred ivy]

the build is effective

[untold widget]

what you get carried through is none of our concern

[kindred ivy]

does good dmg, and supports my tea

"carried"

[untold widget]

you said it yourself, You smite so the team can kill

that's like

the definition of carried

[kindred ivy]

carried

am patricia btw

"""carried"

carried

carried yeah? i got carried right?

i got carried?

or i:
stunned, killed the horde, elites, etc etc/

[untold widget]

looks like you stalled and padded your green circles

while your team waited in elevators at the end of the mission

[kindred ivy]

nope

i didnt do that

cause i dont like wasting time

usually its a zealot wasting time

[frozen osprey]

I love wasting time it's my favorite activity

[kindred ivy]

i did well those missions, and now ur coping

[rotund fable]

mission reward gave me this thing.

[shell maple]

Smite Enjoyer vs BB/Assail Fan

[tulip trench]

ay yo

[kindred ivy]

5 mnin into misison

[rotund fable]

"ay yo" good or "ay yo" bad?

[ornate hamlet]

I wish they gave smite assail charges so I stopped seeing people spamming that shit

But hey, smite does great when paired it with an infinite cleave DoT ability and the most powerful gun shared by the three human classes

Clearly it's a smite thing and not that the other two things are inherently some of the best things this game has to offer

[kindred ivy]

the CC + the elite kill makes flames

makes it unstopabble

[ornate hamlet]

My man, you're using fire shriek and revolver

You can deal damage with your monitor turned off

[kindred ivy]

didnt yall say i do no dmg?

[ornate hamlet]

Smite doesn't do damage

[kindred ivy]

well

[ornate hamlet]

You're using meta shit and preaching smite spam on top of it

[kindred ivy]

i clearly do

[ornate hamlet]

Jesus

Yeah, do whatever, it's your problem and people got tired of telling you why you're wrong

[kindred ivy]

yall went from i od no dmg

to

you are just abusing the meta

very quickly

from "your build does do dmg" to "you are actually just meta abusing"

this build lets me do all dmg + all the crowd controll

seethe cope, but dont smite , i'll keep winning my games, you keep coping

[untold widget]

you assume we don't smite, that's funny

we don't blow smoke up its ass, but it's got its place

[ornate hamlet]

Smite spam does no damage, you use fire shriek and revolver and then pretend smite is doing the work

[idle plover]

Jokes on you i only use smite and accatran lasgun

[dusty otter]

Jokes on you I just get thrown off the bridge by poxbusters

[ornate hamlet]

You got called out on massive bullshit and anyone that plays the game and has enough talent points to test smite in the psykhanium knows it deals no damage

[untold widget]

you don't understand

[idle plover]

Should it?

[untold widget]

it supports the team

who are all helpless baby seals without it

[ornate hamlet]

Fire shriek is one of the most powerful abilities in the game because you're stacking enough fire to kill a poxwalker on its own and then applying it in an area with infinite cleave and also going through walls

You're using what is essentially the most used special sniping gun and it's the most used for a very good reason

[idle plover]

Being able to force 4 crushers to sit there and get shot is incredible

[ornate hamlet]

But sure, it's the fucking smite getting you damage numbers

[dusty otter]

And trolling mutants

[idle plover]

That too

[ornate hamlet]

Smite is a great blitz and that has never been disputed, at least by me

[idle plover]

I am not too liking of bb

[ornate hamlet]

The problem is simply that it doesn't deal damage, someone is saying it does and that's wrong

[dusty otter]

Who would win, 1200 pounds of mutant at 45 mph or one sparky boi

[ornate hamlet]

People can speak positively of smite's CC all day long and people who can use smite well are some of the best players to have on the team because you know they have the good judgement of when to use smite and when to actually deal damage

And that, God fucking forbid, you can stun enemies to set up your own safe kills

Because the enemies on the ground don't need even more low damage lightning zaps

[kindred ivy]

😎 me when i kill most enemies and ranged elites + provide CC

[idle plover]

I smite so others may rampage

[dusty otter]

Is there a point to void strike atm? I can’t tell if my staves are just crap or if it really is that bad

[idle plover]

The orb launcher is ok

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike is particularly goated

[kindred ivy]

void strike is nice

[ornate hamlet]

But to get the truest funnies you need surge and for the big hitbox to not screw your headshots

[kindred ivy]

i dont liek the chargetime that is a bit too slow for me

[ornate hamlet]

Because sometimes you can fire straight into a dude's head and not hit, sometimes firing above works and sometimes it doesn't

[kindred ivy]

which is why i revolverup.

[ornate hamlet]

It's mostly firing in the general region of the head and praying you get that magical finesse, but even then you still can do bowling with poxwalker hordes and it has good stagger for most elites

If memory doesn't fail me, an uncharged RMB already staggers a rager

[harsh urchin]

how do you deal with histg shooter rooms

[kindred ivy]

zap

[harsh urchin]

with a bajillion gunners if your teammates are dogshit

[kindred ivy]

vent

zap opens up the room

none is shooting

[harsh urchin]

doesn't go far enough

i'm talking like

[kindred ivy]

depends on the map

[harsh urchin]

bigger rooms

[kindred ivy]

like refinery delta?

[potent echo]

Smite and a prayer 🙏

[kindred ivy]

has pretyt open rooms

[harsh urchin]

cuz that's one thing I can forsee some issues with your setup

[potent echo]

If you lose its because the game too hard

[kindred ivy]

i playwith a fren

most of the time

[harsh urchin]

is that if you get a team that doesnt kill shooters

[kindred ivy]

so my eam usually has some coordinaiton

tbh

[harsh urchin]

then you're gonna have to clean it out with melee + revolver which is awful

[kindred ivy]

then they shouldn't be on auric maestorm

i try to gun the gunner or shotgunners

so the flames spread

and kill them for me

[harsh urchin]

ye so that's what I'm saying lol

[kindred ivy]

yeah its not perfect

[harsh urchin]

on aurics you just lose sometimes and you can say "damn my team was shit"

but I personally just rather not have to rely on team for anything

and just assume they're bots lmao

[kindred ivy]

yeah, i relly on my teammates i have a call on

[harsh urchin]

big weaknest imo with smite + revolver is that fyoi

I think it's quite good

[kindred ivy]

also revolver has preety good at supreess

[harsh urchin]

but that weakness is annoying

[kindred ivy]

it will mmake the shooters stop moving for a bit

which will let me og in

i will test more my sutff on that scenario

[tulip trench]

thats why i either run smite + surge or bubble + assail
gotta make sure i can protect myself and kill ranged baddies

teammates can be bots lmao

[kindred ivy]

surge suffets from the same thing as smite

range

[tulip trench]

surge range is at least double smites initial

• you have lmb

[kindred ivy]

true

i dont use staves

revolver can deal with those rooms

the supression can help a lot

then i cna just stack up the peril and vent

[icy wyvern]

revolver mains when more than six enemies round the corner

[kindred ivy]

the range on which the flames will catch on fire

is super high

[tulip trench]

if i run revolver i bring assail, to spam out gunners
i only pull out revolver for crushers/maulers

[kindred ivy]

no CC tho

[tulip trench]

dont need

bubble = profit

[icy wyvern]

i am so tired of revolver vets/zealots

[harsh urchin]

yeah same lol. I think we reached the same conclusions

[kindred ivy]

lemme introduce u

to reovvler psycher

[icy wyvern]

you do not need to

i am well aware

but staff master race

[tulip trench]

all round builds > niche except in regular teams 🙂

[icy wyvern]

Let the plasma vet hog all the ammo, it matters not

[harsh urchin]

@tulip trench that's why my favorite 2 setups is melee+assail+revolver psyker with shield and EP, and surge+smite+vent with the ult+dot

[icy wyvern]

I'm blastin fools with my mind

[harsh urchin]

cuz they handle pretty much every single situation

even the really rough ones

[icy wyvern]

Been running rending/flurry trauma and it's gr8

Crusher horde? Woe, brittleness upon ye

[harsh urchin]

I see some people on reddit complain about losing to shooters or to crushers cuz the "vet" or "ogryn" or whoever "wasn't doing their job"

and I find that so funny

that people blame their teammates instead of bringing a build that can handle shit

[icy wyvern]

I mean, if I'm very obviously working on a horde and have my hands full,

[kindred ivy]

i havent run on that usse particularlly dis

[tulip trench]

ya i go
illisi - hordes
assail - gunner rooms
revolver - crushers/maulers
bubble + warp charges = endless bubbles

or

dueling sword - crushers/maulers
surge - gunners
smites - hordes
vent + warp charges = endless vents + makes smite do just enough dmg to kill some hordes itself

[kindred ivy]

so i don't kno

[icy wyvern]

Someone else's job is going to be dealing with ranged

[kindred ivy]

revolver does so much supression

[icy wyvern]

Suppression does not a dead gunner make

[tulip trench]

think the only time i ever take empowered is if im using BB

[harsh urchin]

try 'em they crazy good

they handle every single situation

in a 1-man clutch

[icy wyvern]

warp charges my beloved

[tulip trench]

otherwise warp charge dmg bonus + cooldown is too OP not to use

[harsh urchin]

I've clutched probably 5-10 solos with the first and maybe 1-2 with the second

[icy wyvern]

-36% peril gen means I can just spam rmb

[harsh urchin]

but just cuz i haven't played the 2nd one as much

[kindred ivy]

i meant in that issue

like

dealing with shooters away

or at least not enough

[tulip trench]

specially if you have 10% chance to quell 10% peril

[kindred ivy]

so i dont notice

[harsh urchin]

ye it's a huge issue that IMO you need to bring something that can deal with it

[kindred ivy]

if it happens i'll tell ya

it just doesnt seem ot happen to me

[harsh urchin]

happens pretty often in histg aurics

[icy wyvern]

Dude the newer carnival mission has so many open spaces and the higher difficulties just LOVE filling it with ranged mobs

[harsh urchin]

when you have tons of pressure from shooters + gunners

[icy wyvern]

Ranged mobs that love to sit right outside of the range of my trauma

[tulip trench]

literally lost my entire toughness and hp bar in less than 4 seconds earlier on new carnival map @icy wyvern

at least 12 gunners

all opened up on me

[harsh urchin]

yeah on auric histg is happens way too often lmao

[tulip trench]

i was full everything, just popped a medicae

lmao

[olive ember]

Can we talk about lmb spamming

[icy wyvern]

Shit earlier today I got launched into a corner by shotgunners and gunners that all locked onto me at the same time

[olive ember]

It’s a meme right

[icy wyvern]

Well, hear me out

[harsh urchin]

and even if you manage to not die immediately, it's pretty rough if you don't have the firepower

[icy wyvern]

blaze trauma gives soulblaze on crit

[tulip trench]

shotgunners cancelling your casts/quells with their pushback

[icy wyvern]

lmb spam means more projectiles, more crits, right?

Shotgunners make me see red

[tulip trench]

lmao you walk away with less than 1 wound left xD

[icy wyvern]

I will target them first

[tulip trench]

after just finishing full healing

[olive ember]

I just see so many fucking psykers

Doing lmb spam

[tulip trench]

on?

[icy wyvern]

I can't aim with lmb tbh

[olive ember]

Poxwalkers and twins

[tulip trench]

i mean weapon

blitz

[icy wyvern]

If my trauma's rmb doesn't one-hit the thing I'm aiming at

[olive ember]

Surge staff

[tulip trench]

ahh

[olive ember]

No clue what their blitz is

Lmao

It’s a meme either way

[tulip trench]

i only lmb surge for snipers outta range of rmb

[olive ember]

But Mfw I turn around and the psyker spams lmb into the horde of poxwalkers

And then tries to surge staff rmb them

[icy wyvern]

see i've never really touched surge

and I'm not about to after wasting tons of plasteel to get blaze trauma

just to realize it's mid

[olive ember]

Blaze trauma is pretty meta

[potent echo]

The blaze cultists got to you too I see

[olive ember]

No real reason to swap off it

[tulip trench]

ive heard the brittle one strong too for elites etc

[icy wyvern]

I'd rather get guaranteed brittleness stacks than possible blaze stacks

[tulip trench]

cant get the hang of the mechanics though

[olive ember]

Brittle is eh

[tulip trench]

it bugs on stairs and i get pissed

[potent echo]

Brittle lets you one shot gunners once you coated them in 1 layer

[olive ember]

Blazing does more damage in average

[icy wyvern]

And if I want blaze stacks I can always just shriek

[potent echo]

So it's actually really good

[olive ember]

So two shot

[potent echo]

After the first trauma, each subsequent one will kill a gunner

[olive ember]

Isn’t that just… normal tho

[potent echo]

Depends on how many things there are

[tulip trench]

thing with brittle is your entire team is now doing what.... + 20% dmg?

[potent echo]

It sounds lame but it's so consistent

[olive ember]

Depends on the weapon

[icy wyvern]

Idk what excactly brittleness does

[olive ember]

Some weapons don’t benefit from brittle at all

[icy wyvern]

Just that it makes crushers suck less

[tulip trench]

brittle = armour shred = enemy receives +% dmg from you and your team

[harsh urchin]

brittle completely insane lmao

[icy wyvern]

Blaze'll get you a higher end damage number, but that's taking chip damage off trash mobs that are already gonna get cleared up anyway

[harsh urchin]

i have a brittleness build on ogryn that literally beats everything in melee

and it's braindead easy to play

[olive ember]

Well it depends for example if a weapon already has a 1.0x damage on armor brittle/rending does nothing

[icy wyvern]

Crushers? Maulers? Dreg rager?

gone

[ivory wharf]

Anyone blow themselves up today via a psyker brain explosion

[icy wyvern]

Dude when do I not

[harsh urchin]

ye you just build it for a weapon that has great stats but terrible ADM

[icy wyvern]

And even if YOUR weapon has great armor damage anyway

[harsh urchin]

also bleed

has disgusting synergy with it

[icy wyvern]

You've got three other teammates

[olive ember]

Fire softens everything up and will kill everything besides crushers

Brittle is basically just crushers and maulers, and assassination bosses/twins

[icy wyvern]

Maybe you're having better luck than me because my crit rate wasn't anything to write home about

[olive ember]

Should be around 30 ish %

7.5 base + 20 from nexus + 5 if you grab the crit chance perk

I forget if you grab the 5% crit node but if you do that’s another 5

[icy wyvern]

Or a 100% chance that all my team does more damage to armored targets

It's a trauma staff, it's going to kill a horde

At some point you reach a point where you're not gaining much

[olive ember]

Depends on the weapon your team is using rending is completely useless

[icy wyvern]

i said point twice, brb kms

[tulip trench]

whats more important on trauma? resistance or quell speed?

[olive ember]

Resistance psure

Quell speed iirc is basically a dump stat on every staff

[tulip trench]

cause you do get a quell speed talent

[icy wyvern]

esp if you run left side yeah

[tulip trench]

left side best side

[olive ember]

I don’t even get that talent sometimes, it’s just innately fast

[icy wyvern]

Those dd sweats tremble at the sight of my warp charges

[harsh urchin]

@olive ember do you know if thunderous blessing applies to the original hit? or only subsequent hits

[wraith talon]

managed to get an achievement for killing enemies with my brain explosion lmao

the void clutched ig

[icy wyvern]

prank em john

[olive ember]

Honestly dunno prob ask one of the zealots

Their weapons actually use thunderous no?

[wraith talon]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-brain-gif-25052557

[icy wyvern]

what's the big brain psyker strat for hard mode twins

[tulip trench]

Hadron hates me

[olive ember]

Swap off psyker

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-think-of-it-gif-12729650

[icy wyvern]

??

[olive ember]

Two ways to run Psyker in orthus

One is cracked out Scriers dueling sword psyker for boss damage

The other is smite for CC

[icy wyvern]

swap sustained for rending, infested for flak, imho

more stam means run more better, but ig you're not gonna be sprinting with your staff out

[kindred ivy]

smite CC is pretty usefull

[icy wyvern]

both are equally yeetable ig

[kindred ivy]

in premade

do premade if u gonna run smite CC

[icy wyvern]

hey uh

tf is premade

[kindred ivy]

makign a squad

beforehand

[icy wyvern]

ah ok

yeah I'm not gonna pug hard mode

[olive ember]

Probably a gun psyker is best option for orthus tbh

[icy wyvern]

respectfully, fuck gun psykers

stop having fun

[kindred ivy]

seethe with my smite revolver build

patritcia there.

[olive ember]

From my experience if the bosses are able to have full stacks of rending applied to them the team is doing something wrong

[dusty otter]

I’m sorry all I heard was “take the graia IAG to damnation”

[silent coral]

Is crit aura better than ability cooldown aura?

[olive ember]

Like when the bosses shields go down we bum rush gun boy and force a phase transition

[tulip trench]

best blitz to pair with trauma?
also wildfire needed with trauma?
if so i guess i gotta take bb

[olive ember]

Wildfire is kinda a meh node in general

[kindred ivy]

nah

[olive ember]

But if you are building for fire it’s on the way

[kindred ivy]

but if u just taking it for the "Lul"s

then yeah

dont

if u doing wildfire, do it knowing how u will use it a ton

[icy wyvern]

I run bb and shriek with me trauma

[viscid matrix]

Its only good with the Trauma if you have the fire blessing

[cosmic sigil]

are you lmb or rmb on the smite?

[olive ember]

Rmb

[cosmic sigil]

what do you prefer and why?

[tulip trench]

literally never use lmb

[viscid matrix]

Never LMB, it’s a waste

[cosmic sigil]

ok

[icy wyvern]

except when it isnt?

[kindred ivy]

and do take the thing tha makes them take extra dmg

its very important

its it wil lbuff the flame vent

[icy wyvern]

like I'm not gonna build all that peril when there's just a poxwalker sitting on the ground

[cosmic sigil]

yeah i've done that

[kindred ivy]

🤷‍♂️ doesnt matter for me

i have a revolver and a sword

[olive ember]

If it’s just a poxwalker why are you using smite in general

[kindred ivy]

^^ true

[viscid matrix]

With smite rmb, try to stop before you hit 100% peril to have a knock back effect

[icy wyvern]

Oh, sorry, thought we were shit talking my beloved trauma

[kindred ivy]

but if its more than 2 poxwalkers

do smite them

[olive ember]

I used to like surge staff when it was guaranteed quick CC

Then they made smite a chargeable thing that got rid of my BB and now I can’t use smite anymore

SMH

[half iron]

must brain burst lone poxwalker raaagh

[icy wyvern]

It makes me laugh sometimes to just like

you 👀

🤯

[cosmic sigil]

using smite made me feel like using chorus or shout

[kindred ivy]

a full empowered psyonics smite will kill any dreg shooter, walker, stalker from full

id say that good dmg

especialyl if udoing that to the entire horde

[half iron]

using smite makes me feel like lightning is coming out of my hands
because that’s what i do

[olive ember]

Empowered psionics smite

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[cosmic sigil]

i saved a zealot ass long enough so that he could deal with 2 crushers and one dog. Whit a knife

[kindred ivy]

just the flame from venting push at max stacks doesnt evne kill any of these guys:

[cosmic sigil]

i tried ep smite and ws smite yesterday... did not really feel that much of a diff tbh

[half iron]

i would save a zealot in general. a vet though, i’m shooting the burster they just pushed

[olive ember]

I kill entire shotgunner pack and 2 mutants and a dog, get hit by the silent trapper turn around and see the ogryn struggle against 3 bruisers

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[kindred ivy]

yeah so, empowered smite does more damage then venting shired

shriek

combo them both

[cosmic sigil]

well, i'm keen to know the differences

[kindred ivy]

the first few ticks of flame vent is 28, then it slows down

empowered smite is about that too (a bit higher, depends on the roll it seems) but elts say 28

[olive ember]

Idk how you are venting your flames but uh

Interesting

[half iron]

empowered smite more like lame ahh smite

[kindred ivy]

so combo them both, and u do about 56dmg per tick

[cosmic sigil]

ok, i have seen a difference

[kindred ivy]

which is about 112 DPS, for the entire horde

how is that not good?

[cosmic sigil]

the ws dmg node on my revolver and my melee when i was running 6 charges

[kindred ivy]

well stil, smite is substantially stronge when EP

[cosmic sigil]

yeah but how much stronger?

[devout robin]

question, what's the max stack cap for venting flames

[olive ember]

31

[cosmic sigil]

do we have some numbers?

[devout robin]

i know blaze trauma is 6 with 2 crits

[devout robin]

oh mein gott

[kindred ivy]

on a dreg runner, just EP smite did 135 from full

with no shriek

135 DPS

and killed it

[olive ember]

The global cap is 31, blazing spirit caps at 6, purge staff caps at 16

[kindred ivy]

i dont know the numbers are inconsistent

lmao

but the dps is pretty nuts

[devout robin]

and fire shriek is only limited by the localized cap

interesting

[kindred ivy]

especially if u consider it hits the ENTIRE HORDE

[half iron]

i like it when i use my sword to kill the things

[cosmic sigil]

do you need the crit nodes at the top (mettle and the other one) if you go smite gunker?

[devout robin]

heavily recommended for survivability and damage

[cosmic sigil]

i don't remember criting with smite

[devout robin]

gunker will just crit a fuckton naturally with True Aim

[kindred ivy]

yeah 162 dps with shriek + EP smite

thats uhh pretty good

[kindred ivy]

no

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, my scryer gunker will use it

[devout robin]

if you run meta picks like columnus alongside gaze you will crit a lot yeah

[kindred ivy]

EP smite + flame vent will kill a gunner from full

scab gunner from full

alongside everything else

[half iron]

i’m more of a stub than an amongus gunker ngl

[kindred ivy]

the flames from a elite kill do 11 dmg per tic

[devout robin]

i just really like columnus but stubber is probably more consistent since you actually have a way to deal with carapace besides your sword depending

[kindred ivy]

so no, whoever things my dmg comes JUST FROM THE FIRE

you are wrong

most of it is actualyl ep smite

the flames compliment a lot

[devout robin]

we're talking about gun psyker

oh wait

that was not in response to me

excuse me, carry on flaming

[kindred ivy]

ep smite does 135 dps on a dreg bruiser
flames from elite 22 per second (1 second is roughtly 2 ticks)
flame venting: between 56-80 dps (1 second is roughtly 2 ticks)? it seems.

iso, i go from a 135 dps aoe, to a up to 230 dps aoe

thats fucking insane!

consider the range

EP smite is more than half of it

but the flames ofc help a lot!

so to all ppl saying it isnt my smite damage: it is. i just proved it

flames help, but arnet all my dmg

i also carry a revolver to deal with elites fast

yeah imagine 235 dps on the entire horde, including gunners (which have about 1000/1200 hp), and shotgunners

thats 1 elite every 5 seconds

totally its shirek doing the wrok

[olive ember]

idk what you are doing to get 235 dps per target with smite

[kindred ivy]

empowered smite

[olive ember]

It ain’t that

[kindred ivy]

does 135, + 22 from 1 elite kill neerby + 80 from a venting shirek

that is if u consider 2 ticks of dmg -> 1 second (which id say is not true, and in reality i think there are slighly more than 2)

on the normal small runners its 120 dps the ep smite

i which i had the propper measure of 1 tick

so 2 option:
i cooked something u guys havent seen at all: (i will play games here with anyone to prove it)
or am legit just goated

[devout robin]

1 tick occurs every 0.75s

[kindred ivy]

🤔 smite ticks are faster than flame ones

[devout robin]

that is flames tick rate

[kindred ivy]

EP smite(

what about EP smite's?

[devout robin]

i dont have a hat in the race but ill check

[kindred ivy]

its dificult to calculate propper smite dps, cause it falls off

on pox walkers it reaches about 56 dps, (40,40,40... then falls 32 and they die)

on ep smite its 120 dps on them

[olive ember]

so EP smite is better dps than warp charge smite yes, but thats in a complete vacuum

[kindred ivy]

if flames are every 0.75, and a elite kill makes a 11 dmg burn -> (11 / 0.75 = 14.6 dps)

[devout robin]

we don't have tick time but trusted documentation calculates its dps as this

so it's naturally going to be 125~ dps with EP so yes

[kindred ivy]

so imagine a scenario:
1 elite kill from a reolver -> 14 dps
flame purge -> 56 (varied a lot depends on how many stacks)
smit -> 110

and thats not ideal, since u can easelly rakc up 2 elite kills quickly with a revolver, and u will kill elites with smite (calculating dmg is so fucked with so many dmg types on enemy)
those were taken on infected)

[devout robin]

it does objectively more damage per tick than 3 + 6 ticks of soulblaze at 50~ damage per 0.75 or 66.6~ DPS

[olive ember]

so if you only gave af about smite, EP smite does do more damage than warp charge smite while warp charge smite is more sustainable due to peril resist

[kindred ivy]

i run no other forms of peril

only smite

i have a revolver and a cavalry sword

smite is pretty low cost on peril

[devout robin]

sustainable is subjective because EP smite might legit kill hordes due to the fact it does damage that's mediocre and not nothing

[kindred ivy]

and i run CDR on curios and on talents

[devout robin]

so it's mroe sustainable if you don't need to smite at all after the first cast

[kindred ivy]

sum up that, with the insane CCit provides

[devout robin]

either way the semantics of ep smite > this specific application of 9 soulbalze is done

[kindred ivy]

and my surgical handcannon revolver

[olive ember]

well sustainable as in when you need smite (aka when horde + 8 maulers are on you) you can stun lock the maulers for longer vs EP smite

[kindred ivy]

so , yeah smite is pretty good, does ok dmg, + it will also provide CC

for the entire team

[devout robin]

yeah

[kindred ivy]

which makes me say, its very good

[devout robin]

in which case warp charge smite will be better because it's less about the horde and more about the bosses

personally

[kindred ivy]

if u take care of ranger gunners.

with revolver

[devout robin]

i find that it's hard to compare the two when warp charges does more to more things than just your blitz

at the cost of consistency

because if you need to use your F and lose those charges then you'd miss EP's consistency

either way this discussion seems like it's going in circles

[kindred ivy]

i use my F during smite,

and kepe the EP running too

which is pretty neat

for a build focused on CC , me killing the entire horde, and ranged elites consistenlty, seems pretty good

tomorrow, i am open to test this build with anyone who is a disbeliever

[untold widget]

jesus, he's still preaching about smite?

[kindred ivy]

and are u still mad it performs better than your builds?

[devout robin]

okay

[untold widget]

lol

[devout robin]

i wouldn't go that far

[untold widget]

lol

[kindred ivy]

go on, try playing wiht me

[untold widget]

lol

[kindred ivy]

am down to do any auric mission

[untold widget]

lol

1v1 me bro

this is a child. I'm actually done

[devout robin]

i think it's deceitful to say that because a lot of things easily outdamage smite even with EP

[kindred ivy]

well i showed stats of my build, showed the post game scoreboards, and the mathematics behind the dmg and how the build works

[devout robin]

surge voidstrike spam, fire trauma spam, purgatus

[kindred ivy]

what else u want?

[untold widget]

for you to stop talking

thought that was obvious

[kindred ivy]

kek

malding over smite >>>>

so yeah , am down to show how good it is in game

[tulip trench]

Ok first time using trauma staff with brittle blessing

[kindred ivy]

i showed stats and all u said was : no lol

[devout robin]

no one's saying smite is bad, i would argue people downplay it a bit too hard

[kindred ivy]

not u jesise

the calliope

[devout robin]

i don't think it's going to clear hordes as quick as some more offensive options

[kindred ivy]

it seems that way, but the longer range compared to purgatus

and the bigger aoe, compared to voidstrike of trauma

makes up for that

i tested played with other psuchers, pugatus and voidstrike.

purgatus doesnt have the ranger, voistrike stared focusing on elites only while i strunned the horde

[devout robin]

the thing is that purgatus crits-a-fucking-lot, and higher soulblaze will spread like wildfire

[untold widget]

literally everyone runs smite except columnus gunkers who want to save ammo with assail

[devout robin]

in addition to much more monstrosity damage

[untold widget]

nobody is saying smite is bad

[devout robin]

yeah

[untold widget]

you're defending nothing from nobody

[kindred ivy]

lel

[icy wyvern]

Okay so, EP makes smite do more damage and maybe even kill mobs but!
WS gives you peril gen reduction so you can CC them longer

i am conflicted

[untold widget]

it was fun winding you up at first because you clearly are very passionate about a CC ability

but its old now

[kindred ivy]

smite already has low cost

and u can vent very quickly

[foggy stratus]

wait, smite isnt good?

ive been using it as my main thing

[untold widget]

its fine

does its job

which is CC

[kindred ivy]

dont listen

[untold widget]

most people run it

[icy wyvern]

also which of you fuckers was going to tell me that you had to hold BOTH right AND left mouse buttons

[untold widget]

the occasional assail user comes along, and the ones running brain burst for penance

[foggy stratus]

i see mother other psykers doin the assail thing when i do match making

[kindred ivy]

they will say "Bad" then u put proofs about its dmg, and cc and everyhtin they repond with "no lil)

[icy wyvern]

here I was thinking smite had like a one second rmb attack

[kindred ivy]

just stop smitning before it reaches 100%

[untold widget]

smite isnt giving you damage

[devout robin]

realistically i run warp charges to boost my damage in general and reduce cd/peril on my staves

[untold widget]

that's creeping flames

[kindred ivy]

and u will knock enemies back

[kindred ivy]

its not

i just did the math

[untold widget]

it is

[devout robin]

and anyone running it specifically in consideration to only smite is only pedantic

[kindred ivy]

.

ep smite does 125 dps

[untold widget]

ok

[kindred ivy]

confiemed by jessie

[untold widget]

revolver does 4k

[kindred ivy]

the creeping flames do like 11 per tick, and the venting shirek will do 40 per tick on the burns

[foggy stratus]

its def a dps sacrifice

[untold widget]

max peril creeping flames will 100-0 a horde with no other damage applied

[foggy stratus]

whats creeping flames?

[devout robin]

the thing about creeping flames is that it's free while you do other shit

[untold widget]

venting shriek augment

[foggy stratus]

ahhh

[devout robin]

it is objectively slower but also

you can do it while firing off trauma blasts

columnus shots

etc

[kindred ivy]

venting shrieak does like 40 or so dmg per tick.

[foggy stratus]

i want to be do that hard mode - is a non smite buold recommended?

[devout robin]

yes

that is enough for trash

[kindred ivy]

which is 56 dps

smite lets me spread that fast

and kill faster

about 3x faster with burn + smite

very good horde clear

[devout robin]

that is objectively true

[kindred ivy]

better than just shirek

[mighty olive]

i did it with ep assail, shriek, void

[devout robin]

the point is that you will use venting shriek with some shit like the voidstrike, kill the horde while also sniping every elite in liek 5 seconds

[kindred ivy]

and my smite will keep the elites stunned wtih noething on front

for my team

[kindred ivy]

revolver

so all my peril goes on smite in case i need CC

revolve rmore less the same speed

[foggy stratus]

hmm, i dont think i do soulblaze

maybe i can work thatin

[icy wyvern]

Soulblaze isn't really something you should half do

[kindred ivy]

i dont see enough psychers properlly using the CC of smite

[icy wyvern]

well for one no one told me you have to HOLD RMB

[foggy stratus]

explain

[kindred ivy]

when theres ragers fucking up the team, they will try to kill shit with a VS instead of making sure everyone is safe with smite first

i just lost a game cause we had 2 psychers boht smite, none of them ever used smite. at the end of hab dreiko one of them was stuck voidstriking a door

nonstop

[icy wyvern]

you reckon enfeeble is necessary or can I yeet it for warp rider

[kindred ivy]

cuase he couldnt push out, whereast wtih smite

[foggy stratus]

oh - i always try to hold cc, but im noticing most guys just ignore things that are CC'd and i end up having to non-cc lol

[kindred ivy]

enfeeble is GREAT

[kindred ivy]

while u CC they deal with other threats

enfeeble justifies a LOT of the smite spam

[icy wyvern]

i'd like a second opinion from someone who isn't smite's greatest fan

[foggy stratus]

hmm

let mne make sure i have that

[kindred ivy]

after u hold RMB, and then keep LMB presesd

[untold widget]

I don't run any smite augments

[kindred ivy]

stop before it reaches 100%

so u kbkick back enemies

very usefull

smite feels lackluster without the left augment imo, and the left augment helps the teams dmg

its pretty aight if u ask me

10% dmg for free is always welcome

[devout robin]

this argument just feels like people who prefer more offensive options over smite or otherwise

so like

whatever just use what you like

jfc

[untold widget]

left augment is +1 jumps

right is damage

[kindred ivy]

do both

u can do btoh

[untold widget]

nope

[mighty olive]

i just take the jump aug

unless you have a good coordinated team i dont feel the right one is useful

[untold widget]

don't hold smite long enough for the jump addition to matter, don't need extra damage on smite

[kindred ivy]

u can do both

[tulip trench]

lets be real at the end of the day, nothing feels better than clearing hordes with good ol' illisi ❤️

[kindred ivy]

the extra dmg is for your team

[untold widget]

literally everything i have does more damage

[devout robin]

extra damage doesnt matter bc people always hit shit that meets breakpoints anyway

[untold widget]

prove enfeeble works for team damage then

[kindred ivy]

all sources

[foggy stratus]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a6454b8-4180-4dc7-93ee-e817b21f25cc/auric-maelstrom-bubble-smite-support - this is what ive been running except with a dueling sword

[kindred ivy]

if u consider the 125 dps of smite + the massive AOE

[untold widget]

tooltips are always reliable, this is known

[devout robin]

^

[kindred ivy]

well its designed to help

[devout robin]

10%^ isn't a lot

[kindred ivy]

iuts designed to do, none afaik reported any issue with it so far

so id say yeah it works

at least that i know of

[icy wyvern]

There

[tulip trench]

i prefer the plus 1 jump tbh, it actually gives you an extra smite circuit right off of your hand

[icy wyvern]

There's no timer on the tooltip

[limber silo]

Yeah, most people have their loadouts set with proper breakpoints, so the only time I find that extra 10% nice is with Smite Shriek

[devout robin]

anyone building for the 10% boost is either very teamwork oriented, a crackhead or a min-max god

[icy wyvern]

So is it "enemy was hit with smite and now permenantly takes +10% damage"

[runic hornet]

no, it's only while they're doing the marv electrocution dance

[devout robin]

only when enemy is being smited

[icy wyvern]

smitten

smote

[runic hornet]

it supposedly will help a little bit on elite squads that you're holding

[kindred ivy]

so if it isnt working as intended, it should do +10%
if it isnt working it needs a fux

[runic hornet]

but most of the time your team will either delete the elites by a large margin, or fail to delete them by a large margin

[icy wyvern]

So it's only while they're riding the lightning

yeah chief I'm gonna take warp rider instead

[runic hornet]

in either case the point is better spent elsewhere

[devout robin]

it's not whether it works

it's whether it gets objectively value when it does work

and more often than not it won't

[half iron]

the point is better spent to psyker pswag💯💯🗣️🗣️

[devout robin]

the biggest case is monstrosioty but you are absolutely not smiting those

[runic hornet]

does it even work on monstrosities

since they don't do the dance

[tulip trench]

id imagine so, theyre still taking dmg

[kindred ivy]

the weakness of the build, is boss dmg

but i think if i put a chainsword

i should do a lot better on that part

[icy wyvern]

Okay, moving on from lightning to flames

[kindred ivy]

flames are cool

i used to run flames all the time pre rework

[half iron]

blue fire cool
it’s like fire, but blue

[kindred ivy]

purgatus build

[tulip trench]

dueling sword mk4. literally all other melee weapons on pysker are overshadowed by it

[icy wyvern]

I'm trying to like blaze trauma

I really am

[runic hornet]

which one is mk4

[devout robin]

this is unfortunately correct

[kindred ivy]

i dont know much about htat weapon i just use it cause i found it neat

but what so special abot it?

[runic hornet]

is that the rapier-like one with the double-downward diagonal light combo

[kindred ivy]

i am pretty sure a revovler can take care of elites

[half iron]

i’m trying to get blaze trauma but hadron does not want me to get the blessing ever. melk neither

[runic hornet]

and the nuclear stabs

[ornate hamlet]

Yep

[tulip trench]

its charged melee is the highest melee hit out of all pysker weapons

[devout robin]

it has good cleave and the heavies do so much fucking damage even to carapace

[kindred ivy]

but i haev revolver

[runic hornet]

yeah, it's pretty strong

[kindred ivy]

well i do have a uncanny strike shred one

[runic hornet]

there's still arguments for force swords over it though

depending on your build

[kindred ivy]

revolver will murder elites too

on 1 tap

[devout robin]

1. doesn't need to reload
2. doesn't need ammo
3. you can run it with basically any ranged weapon, including revoplver

also clears adds good

[kindred ivy]

chainsword

[runic hornet]

especially the fire-venting shriek + slaughterer force sword combo

[kindred ivy]

givees me the bossdmg i dont have

[runic hornet]

that absolutely shreks everything

[kindred ivy]

the aoe we went over this already

[runic hornet]

(slaughterer is a messed up perk)

[tulip trench]

dueling sword does more

[kindred ivy]

only on headshots

[tulip trench]

than chainsword

nah just in general

[kindred ivy]

chainsword with bleed stacks up more

[runic hornet]

yeah don't sleep on chainsword special bleed

it's kind of hilarious

because you get the bleed stacks even if you cancel out of it apparently?

or have they fixed that

[kindred ivy]

i have a ok one

[tulip trench]

its strong, just mk4 has ease of use

i dislike how strong it is tbh

[devout robin]

that's actually close to bis

just change the perks to maniac and unyielding

[kindred ivy]

no

i wanna block

[long stone]

That’s a actually pretty much perfect

[kindred ivy]

it does decent dmg if i headshot bosses

[devout robin]

you are annoying

[kindred ivy]

and onetaps elites anyway

[icy wyvern]

ehm, low cleave damage?

bricked

[devout robin]

cleave damage is the dump stat

it still cooks

[weak granite]

so why is maniac meta

[kindred ivy]

am not using it to cleave either

[icy wyvern]

get rid of it this instant

[devout robin]

one shotsm uties

[tulip trench]

ragers and mutants

[kindred ivy]

manie and unhielding and flak
are the annoying enemies

[tulip trench]

you can one tap em

[kindred ivy]

ragers and muties the most of them

[urban sandal]

dreg ragers and most specialists are maniac armoured

[kindred ivy]

so u take maniac

also theres 1 flak "rager"

so u take flak

if already do good flak take unyielding or carapce

[devout robin]

it one shots flak ragers

[kindred ivy]

🤔 i have to test 1 sec

2 taps scab ragers (flack)

3 taps dreg ragers

i am running loads of block efficiency,

[devout robin]

maniac is to one-shot headshot muties on it

[kindred ivy]

and with +25 maniac or flak likelyl it wouldnt oneshot them.

[devout robin]

unyielding is for boss damage

[kindred ivy]

it can oneshot head mutie

...

if i crit

[urban sandal]

if

[kindred ivy]

but if i tap the revolver b4, it does the rest even without a crit

[icy wyvern]

Unyielding is also for crushers

[devout robin]

crushers is carapace

[spice veldt]

crushers are all carapace

[urban sandal]

unyielding doesn't affect crushers

[spice veldt]

there is no unyielding part on them

[icy wyvern]

huh

[latent stone]

Anything to swap?

[icy wyvern]

I figured it was just all oggies

[kindred ivy]

i have uncanny

[tulip trench]

reapers are unyeilding

[urban sandal]

and bulwarks

[tulip trench]

and have carapace armour

[icy wyvern]

even without crits my ds4 2-shots flak ragers

1 shot crit

[urban sandal]

I'm tempted to try a ds4 but I can't put down the dclaw and it's parry

[icy wyvern]

i uh

i don't know what a dclaw is

oh, devil's claw

[spice veldt]

an alcoholic beverage for devils

[spice veldt]

die

[shy prairie]

true

[devout robin]

so true

[shy prairie]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1185876678946340894/ragerreaction.gif?ex=659134b8&is=657ebfb8&hm=3d0846e2eac37dbe4a9095f3ffaac6e2f8733b1812a5133ad30d0d9fa3965f74&

[icy wyvern]

i like to belive the green things on their backs are jello shots

[shy prairie]

heretic jello

[kindred ivy]

they a

[icy wyvern]

jello, nonetheless

[kindred ivy]

non copyrighted

bane

from betchmãhn

[gloomy magnet]

rannick is half handsome and half ugly wtf

[half iron]

rannick is peak shuddup🥵🥵🥵🥵

[gloomy magnet]

ranni-chan's superfans

[severe hemlock]

Anyone have a good soulblaze build? I really like do dot and being up close

[ornate hamlet]

Rannick even has the pointy ears

[severe hemlock]

are there any builds with both front line and soulblaze?

[ornate hamlet]

Illisi, fire shriek and warp siphon is my pick

[kindred ivy]

smistiesmtsi msite , just smite dude i promisse just one more msit, smite everyhting

melee range

but smite,

smite, smite smitemistemsietsemtiesmtmitse, just one more mist

smite8

[half iron]

but sword cooler. it is a blade on a handle

[severe hemlock]

You got a link to it or something?

[steep rivet]

:)

[subtle swift]

what mod is he using to get his warp charges to appear as 6 circles above his peril meter?

[ornate hamlet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ae04428-6a42-481c-b067-6b6ba3665e06/test-10 for weapon perks I just put whatever, but it's those blessings and that tree

RIP true aim tho

[untold widget]

ya gotta drop wildfire

its just so bad

i know its a soulfire build

but you just don't need it

and can get 6 warp charges

probably better to run smite as well, works better with vent

[ornate hamlet]

I keep brain burst because it has helped me in some niche situations where I didn't trust voidstrike to reach the enemy in time or they were moving at long range

Wildfire I could see being traded for something else

One might also argue against empathic evasion and "just dodge", and honestly I don't actually know how much it actually has helped me

[paper harbor]

I think those six circle are warp siphon

[subtle swift]

oh i think the mod is crosshair hud

just found it

[paper harbor]

Or soul warp?

[subtle swift]

looks like it might be this one on nexus gunna try it :P

[paper harbor]

Kinda, clustering

[untold widget]

EE is most helpful on Purg builds and IAG scrier builds due to the rapidity of the crits. Probably only really helping during melee if you can chain crits enough with a void/illisi build

as far as brain burst vs voiding at long range, that's just a matter of preference. I've played enough Tribes to be good at leading a target with a projectile with slow velocity (compared to hitscan bullets)

[paper harbor]

EE dodge on ranged save my ass from gunner

Specially mid horde and shooter scatter in a room

I’m busy slash slash

[untold widget]

like i said, only helps in melee with void/illisi builds

void doesn't crit often enough to keep the ranged dodge up

[paper harbor]

I do use with dueling sword and illisi

[sudden trellis]

getting a lasgun as a reward by the emperor for beating another round of auric maelstrom feels like a back-handed compliment...

what're you trying to tell me, Big E?

[paper harbor]

“You’re good”

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message received: All emperor rewards are now auto pistols

[sudden trellis]

EMPEROR PLS

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Rng got me playing warframe farming Entrati Lanthorn as uncommon resources so damn very rare to get

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jees that game still going?

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They dropped update

[rich jolt]

Those are the weird spiky things on zar right?

[paper harbor]

Major one??

[sudden trellis]

what 100 peril does to a mf

[paper harbor]

Huh?

I means when I desire an items the rng director know what you want get and say no

Same I desire item gift from big E

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I build everything I use

[paper harbor]

Even shit stats?

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gifts and shop weapons are always terrible

no

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/sog-cat-soggy-cat-sogged-cat-get-sogged-get-real-gif-26481153

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What does that means to me?

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I just drop half a million dockets until I get a roll that's got the right stat weight, or a subset of them at least

then I slam plasteel down hadrons throat until the ranked up weapons don't have shit perks/blessings

[paper harbor]

1 millions dockets sound hella grind each mission

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Gotta use it for something

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I grind 500k for psyker cosmetic so pain

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already have those

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Im genuinely burnout most time

I used to play lot Darktide

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I've only got 420 hours in darktide

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Each update new weapon I play few new map and stop, I can’t get more plasteel since I’m broke

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not nearly enough to burn out

?

you can't buy plasteel

you just collect it in missions

[paper harbor]

Mine just 531.4 hour

[paper harbor]

Yeah that’s why I’m trying find way to get plasteel without get too bored out scouting plasteel every same map.

Scavenge plasteel not my type for scavenger hunt

There’s time I spent total 26 minute average

[potent echo]

If I don't get 800 plasteel per map it's considered a loss

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yeah I dunno what to tell you there, if exploring the maps is too much for you then probably time to call it

[paper harbor]

As I remember on damnation most profit but risk to run pub

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if you can't carry damnation by yourself then how are you burnt out?

[paper harbor]

Maybe Bad luck

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unless it's just stimulation overload

[potent echo]

That line explains itself

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Having incompetent players

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again

by yourself

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On damnation

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damnation is eas

y

auric maybe not as much

but regular damnation is snooze fest boring

chill farming plasteel is my bread and butter

[paper harbor]

I track some pattern fail on damnation like twice or 3-4th losing confidence to play

You already know director throw rng enemy and fucked up

[potent echo]

You just like

Get better

[paper harbor]

I remember pre talent remake run just great

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you gotta push yourself my dude

[paper harbor]

I wish, now I’m just burnout playing solo in pub.

Something hurt my spirit playing pub

Sometime bad team interaction

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once the entire team is dead, that's when the fun begins

[paper harbor]

Losing half plasteel not fun spent 26 minute

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only then will I (maybe) stop collecting plasteel

[potent echo]

Relying on team means your build isn't optimal

[paper harbor]

Have habit collect plasteel as I’m being forced myself

[potent echo]

If you can't deal with every single situation in the game, means time to change it

[paper harbor]

Not everyone go collect plasteel you know

[potent echo]

Yea just run off solo and get all the plasteel, we all do that

Just don't get caught

[paper harbor]

Sometime team maybe head of me

[potent echo]

Yea play solo, patience