thats how people kill thing with smite
#psyker-class
severe folio
severe folio
well your revolver isnt going to pop into a horde without elite
and while elite are common some horde do not have elite
severe folio
this group is matched with 2 orgyn
one has shield
the shield one is the one that has most elite kill
kindred ivy
maybe u werent fast enough wiht the revolver?
severe folio
or maybe
kindred ivy
but clearlly u did well
kindred ivy
possibly
severe folio
and maybe we need mor than 1 or 2 scoreboard
kindred ivy
i can show moew
severe folio
go ahead
kindred ivy
lemme pick em
lethal lagoon
maybe u werent fast enough wiht the revolver?
That's where surge staff comes in.
Smite surge just feels right.
kindred ivy
kindred ivy
Smite surge just feels right.
it doe,s i just wnana have all the peril for smite
it does lack in boss dmg
its the one thing i have yet to fix
icy wyvern
just played with the most insufferable guy
lethal lagoon
Surge spam does okayish boss damage.
icy wyvern
just stood there and held smite
like buddy we're gonna have to deal with those guys at some point
severe folio
everyone who carry the revolver will always pop elite with it
kindred ivy
but a smite + venting purge (flame)
kindred ivy
everyone who carry the revolver will always pop elite with it
thats the build
smite alone doesnt reach breakpoints easelly, BUUUUT if u add evne a very very minimal dot to it
it reaches those points
lethal lagoon
99% of pubs spamming smite don't have flaming shriek or EP, so they are basically forcing their team to play 3 man.
kindred ivy
^^
lethal lagoon
With less cleave
severe folio
hmm
severe folio
i know that pygex and many other have said that smite and creeping flame is a good combo
kindred ivy
shotguners and gunners and ragers are very common
severe folio
and having a revolver doesnt really mess up your composition
icy wyvern
am i meta yet
severe folio
however while i was playing with this build i feel that theres a certain criteria
kindred ivy
revolver can startup cahins
and u need to be very proative
with yor elite killing
stop smite, kill random elite
smite
usually smite leaves ppl open enough for a couple seconds
and u can dodge back
severe folio
its not a flawed execution
but in this composition what would happen if you dont have the revolver
kindred ivy
i will always have the revolver
the biuld only works caues u can startup the thing wit the revolver
dont kill normal shooters with the revovler
kill elites
icy wyvern
any ole schmuck can use a revolver
lethal lagoon
but in this composition what would happen if you dont have the revolver
Here's a smite-only run I did on my alt psyker(for melks) cause they have no gear yet.
icy wyvern
staves are for psykers with some chest-hair
lethal lagoon
Well smite-only but I still shrieked
I felt so dirty, I don't want to do it again.
But I must... for science.
severe folio
well the main concern is
if you take out smite in this equation, do you think that its not going to work ?
icy wyvern
I don't target elites because I believe its my class role. I target them because my team is cross-eyed and if I don't shoot them, no one will.
lethal lagoon
Assail revolver will probably have higher DPS.
severe folio
dont you think the venting shriek is enough cc
icy wyvern
Plenty of people run revolver without smite
You might not, and obvs your playstyle dictates your talent tree
kindred ivy
assail dont have uptime
kindred ivy
dont you think the venting shriek is enough cc
no
lethal lagoon
assail dont have uptime
That's what the gun is for.
kindred ivy
yep!
lethal lagoon
My first ever million game was assail gunker. (non-melee maelstrom, melee maelstroms don't count).
severe folio
i think replacing smite with assail will do just fine
kindred ivy
it wnot
lethal lagoon
Gunker assail is probably the highest DPS you can have on psyker outside of melee maelstroms π€·ββοΈ
vocal cliff
"it will" vs "it won't"
Yuh huh vs nuh uh
kindred ivy
id use assail + purgatus instead
icy wyvern
You don't use the purgatus because you're not comfortable using the purgatus, and it isn't your playstyle.
Not because it's not viable.
That's okay.
You can say you're not good with a weapon
lethal lagoon
Purg got left behind in patch 13, and I played it all the time beforehand.
icy wyvern
Homeslice I really need you to type slower lol
I really hate this approach to builds of "this is the way"
lethal lagoon
Yuh huh vs nuh uh
Game is too easy atm, so that's the unfortunate result.
Can't have real meta dicussions when there's no real meta content.
icy wyvern
Your build works, else you wouldn't use it.
kindred ivy
the revovler was there to fill a elite killing hoel
but it ends up
the crepeing flames
icy wyvern
If you're running a class with the intention of "i want that thing dead now"
icy wyvern
i vibe hard with crepe flames
kindred ivy
once u kill 2 things with the revovler (common occurance) everything will get ded
smite + 6 stacks of burn
is common occurance
and metls trough all elites
except curshers
kindred ivy
nin
ornate hamlet
The dirtiest psyker build I played was uncanny illisi, fire shriek, cooldown aura, cooldown curios and warp siphon
I didn't let anyone do anything
Soublaze with maxed rending was idiotic with how easily I could throw it again
cloud heron
these stims are really great for testing your ult in the psykhanium
magic hull
worth changing blessings?
severe folio
worth changing blessings?
slaughterer is what i heard to be good
kindred ivy
does deimos have good crit multiplier?
severe folio
uncanny is fine
kindred ivy
uncanny is great!
severe folio
idk about the crit multiplier
kindred ivy
shred better with good crit multi
severe folio
it hits armor hard enough though
severe folio
codex dont say anything about its crit multiplier
spice veldt
2.48x crit multi at 80% finesse iirc
severe folio
just say that slaughterer is very good on it
ornate hamlet
"woke is heresy"
spice veldt
nvm it's 2.62x apparently
kindred ivy
even betetr!
u dont actually see a crit mulit, but u can compare the crit dmg vs normal dmg
severe folio
the stab light
spice veldt
ye
stab light has the same first target damage as a heavy but slightly better weakspot/crit multipliers
severe folio
then that means shred would be good on it right
spice veldt
prolly
bleak tulip
not really
restive slate
Meta and BiS change over time
bleak tulip
just needs true aim
outer kraken
i know it makes decisions harder/info less easily digestible but i wish tier lists and guides would better account for blessing & perk combos
icy wyvern
obvs surge is a nutty blessing in and of itself
outer kraken
some things work better together and dont without
icy wyvern
essentially free double crit damage
bleak tulip
also
outer kraken
+3 stamina??
bleak tulip
dont take anyone's opinion as gospel
magic hull
finally beat the twins on hard mode π
icy wyvern
curio's schmurios
i run whatever curios i feel like
damage resistance? just don't take damage
simple as
restive slate
I only use Stamina on my Vet, makes Deadshot so comfy
icy wyvern
I got my one extra wound so i can blow up on accident
restive slate
I blow up on purpose sometimes, just to feel the rush
hot zephyr
Aight boys, what do I fix up this bad boy. Thinking just fix perks with 5% crit and something... not sure what's best.
Athenium recommends flak or maniacs
bleak tulip
elites to flak and maybe flurry IV idk
ornate hamlet
fire shriek sweatlord
bleak tulip
1% crit increase is a pretty meh
you get more out of upgrading flurry prob
also meh tho
ornate hamlet
I wish I wasn't blind and could've hit the voidstrike shots at the end, I think I would've actually gotten 1K lessers
hot zephyr
flurry 3 vs flurry 4 is 1% charge time, i'll barely notice that
But I guess you are right 1% crit is meh too
Maybe just elites -> flak and leave it for now?
ornate hamlet
I wonder if revolver would've been better
hot zephyr
Aight, done. Thx
icy wyvern
voidstrike > revolver
ornate hamlet
I don't know voidstrike well and end up with a lot of elites not dying on headshots because I have no idea about charge levels and aiming
But staggering ragers with infinite ammo is fun
I really need to go back to farming surge on it
outer kraken
how are you going about blessing farming? ive seen people suggest different methods, idk of one works better
ive managed to get surge but not like. any other t4 blessing
bleak tulip
dont just spam blue, go for full consecrate on high base level staves
thats how I do it
ornate hamlet
I heard that high base stats affect the quality of the rolls
So I've been getting high voidstrikes and getting them to orange
bleak tulip
apparently higher overall rating influences the rarity of the blessings, so the second blessing has a higher chance of being a IV
ornate hamlet
Because I heard orange has better chances for a good tier
But it's a lot of "I heard"
For all I don't know, it's placebo and I'm wasting my time
urban sandal
how are you going about blessing farming? ive seen people suggest different meth...
treat melk as a blessing vendor rather than a weapon vendor, and pray for good emperor's gifts
or suck hadrons dick but you know
outer kraken
yes mommy hadron 
silk hawk
Because I heard orange has better chances for a good tier
Blue has small chance to be t4, orange has high chance to be t4
ornate hamlet
My voidstrike at the moment
I should probably get flurry there, since I don't use it for hordes
Or rather, hordes have a really low charge necessary
hot zephyr
Because I heard orange has better chances for a good tier
When I roll green -> blue I generally find I get a tier 2-3 blessing, but when i roll purple -> orange I usually get a tier 3 or 4 blessing. That's just my feel for it.
silk hawk
U should get better base at the first place...
ornate hamlet
I want idiotically low warp resistance 
silk hawk
I want idiotically low warp resistance <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
What is the point?
ornate hamlet
Getting nexus and the toughness DR and damage talents faster
severe folio
warp rider too
silk hawk
Getting nexus and the toughness DR and damage talents faster
Just dont quel ot to 0....
Quell it to 50 at mac
Max
Same effect but more consistent
bleak tulip
imo losing a cast isnt worth having slightly higher crit chance but you do you
ornate hamlet
I wouldn't know, I pull this thing out like once a blue moon
Revolver is goateder
Revolver enjoyers when the only charge time they get is the hammer hitting the cartridge
lethal lagoon
fire shriek sweatlord
Need to get ovenproof mod to see the fire damage
It's probably not as high as you think unfortunately π¦ π₯
ornate hamlet
I believe it'd be a bit higher, considering I was spamming uncanny strike
severe folio
i mena
well hm
here
revolver, vent shriek creepingflame
not maelstrom but HIauric
ornate hamlet
But look at the level of tryharding I was in
Me with 981 lesser, second guy with 489
Me with 670K total, second guy with 479K
severe folio
at that point that dependant on the team isntit
severe folio
well in my case i had 2 orgyns
ornate hamlet
I had a kickback ogryn, an MG12 vet and a zealot with idfk what
severe folio
well, then its gonna be hard to determine how really far soulblaze on vent shriek alone gonna do
ornate hamlet
If anything, I probably would've had less elites to kill if the vet was using plasma or revolver
severe folio
i just realize PC is a strong sb tool
but
does it really work when you are dealing damage equally to everything
it needs target priority first
opal gyro
Which psyker hats have the voice filter, other than the gnosis rebreather?
vocal iron
what do people ususally run for twins
gloomy magnet
guns
urban sandal
cc as psyker since you're gonna have shit boss dps without building specifically for that
gloomy magnet
admit that staves are not decent for bossss
vocal iron
Col V is good i guess
eager mantle
They should just put a gun at the end of the staff
urban sandal
is that not what the void strike is though 
urban sandal
trick weapons as a concept in this game would be sick
getting there with the new shovels
eager mantle
getting there with the new shovels
Missed an opportunity for folding shovels to have an attack when pulled out
severe folio
what do you mean
eager mantle
That when you swap to it an attack is coming out
urban sandal
like transform attacks
subtle swift
i wish i could set my cosmetic clothing for each build
severe folio
i wish i could set my cosmetic clothing for each build
im pretty sure you can
eager mantle
Idk. Maybe swap into a stab attack that makes your shovel folded
severe folio
i want this thing
theres a fuking weapon called chainblade and its a tiny chain bayonet to be attach on bolter ?? π
shy prairie
the game refuses to give me a good trauma
severe folio
i can give you a trauma
shy prairie
sir you are asking for custodian equipment
sullen bobcat
I want a chain dagger
Or a chain box knife
What about a chain scalpel
Chain thumbtack?
sullen bobcat
agile blaze
Vs
severe folio
on what
agile blaze
Deimos
magic hull
I've managed to make a mimic the stabby combo like your Dooling sword lol. This one requires a bit more work.
agile blaze
I use it mostly for crushers anyway
agile blaze
Its special is pretty good for it
Yeah I don't need anything but my blessed air fryer 9000 for mixed hordes/groups
severe folio
it is but you more often than not arent going to fight 1 singular crusher
and the normal heavy already detriment the crusher
and circulate your whole blessing around the special alone may be a lil bit less profitable than a blessing that benefit both special and non special ?
like if you have slaughterer it also benefit your special
unstable power yougonna have to get a method of getting 100 peril
agile blaze
Yeah its just that my purgatus staff kills pretty much anything EXCEPT crushers efficiently enough to not need to be able to melee kill hordes.
agile blaze
And brain burst spam tends to send me into the red pretty quick
So I just BB on approach
severe folio
then by the time you switch to your deimos i guess you would have 20 power from all the peril
agile blaze
then whip out the empowered sword
agile blaze
there's rarely a single crusher
and base BB takes like 3 to kill one
and 4 is 100% peril most of the time
Crushers also don't stand idly
severe folio
yeah so you gonna want to rely entirely on your deimos
since deimos heavy stab gonna push them down
well at any case
if you find yourself always at high peril when you switch to deimos
agile blaze
Ill experiment
severe folio
then i can see unstable power have its benefit
magic hull
deimos heavy stab give you breathing space
agile blaze
At the very least I know uncanny strikes is based
uncanny strikes lets me kill crushers without special kekw
severe folio
slaughterer is 40 power btw
agile blaze
I really need tier 4 uncanny strikes
magic hull
I really need tier 4 uncanny strikes
farm deimos blessings youll get it in no time
severe folio
eldar chain weapon looks so good π₯
agile blaze
But my plasteel π’
magic hull
yeah same, im broke lol
quasi grotto
strip rending from left and put it on right, yeah?
severe folio
petition to give orgyn power fist
severe folio
strip rending from left and put it on right, yeah?
idk how to feel about that charge rate
but yeah
urban sandal
strip rending from left and put it on right, yeah?
it's a tough choice between those 2 since neither have particularly fantastic modifiers
severe folio
strip rending for the right one
quasi grotto
yeah they're not perfect, just what i have to work with right now
left was an emperor's gift so that was nice
magic hull
shouldnt veterans be the ones getting powerfist?
severe folio
no
magic hull
huh
shy prairie
force greatsword
ornate hamlet
FORCE GREATSWORD
worthy dune
I've managed to make a mimic the stabby combo like your Dooling sword lol. This ...
I have one too, I like to just chain like this: Light stab, heavy stab, light side, heavy stab. Then I'll use the the block if I don't have room to dodge and go for a heavy stab to reset. But gonna be totally honest I fuck w yours, just watch stamina consumption
cosmic sigil
man i feel useful whenever there's a pack of elites and i just smitelock their asses
severe folio
what is smite + damage
half turtle
the subnode on smite that causes it to give a +10% damage team buff against the enemies being smote
bright mica
does the smite +damage work now
Think it's always worked but only on M1
so it's pretty ass
half turtle
rip
bright mica
You can spec into making Smite a killing tool with a Warp Siphon build but it's still really slow and also boring. It's mostly advised for people with really poor aim.
I've tried it one game and it did end up with 2nd most kills for doing fuck-all though
kindred ivy
NO
bright mica
but I can't imagine a more boring playstyle
half turtle
is warp charges better for damage than ep
bright mica
Yea
half turtle
yeah
bright mica
For smite yea
kindred ivy
Smite + venting push + good revovler + elite kills make enemy burn
is the goat combo
bright mica
That's Creeping Flames killing things not Smite though
kindred ivy
its both
flat moat
does the trauma staff preform well on auric or should I stick to the void?
kindred ivy
smite + creeping frames comboes the dot
bright mica
does the trauma staff preform well on auric or should I stick to the void?
both are amazing on Auric
kindred ivy
and from "ok" dmg
bright mica
smite + creeping frames comboes the dot
You don't need to though
kindred ivy
it becomes insta horde clears
bright mica
Max stacks Creeping Flames will kill trash
cosmic sigil
i used smite + shriek with warp charges
half turtle
does the trauma staff preform well on auric or should I stick to the void?
trauma is finickier and harder to use and less damage but better control/safety
bright mica
The EP doesn't matter
cosmic sigil
i should i have gone ep?
kindred ivy
it does
bright mica
Not rlly
kindred ivy
well
bright mica
You're overkilling with EP
bright mica
You'd be better off going Warp Siphon to get CDR on Creeping Flames
which does all the killing anyway
half turtle
oh that's nice
kindred ivy
(which is a buff after they fixed it)
cosmic sigil
i can try both
kindred ivy
i play smite revolver ventflame and creeping
and it dmg is absuer
with smite u can make sure the flames spread out fast before they go out
bright mica
You'd insta everything with or without EP though, you're just putting points into EP Smite needlessy when your HClear would go up with Warp Siphon just from the nature of busting out more Creeping Flames
kindred ivy
and ofc smite provides CC
bright mica
That's imho
bright mica
but I get the vision
kindred ivy
yeah
bright mica
Just it with Warp Siphon though
kindred ivy
i tihn i cant even spec into that i think
cosmic sigil
so what's the build with ep?
bright mica
Just try it, you'll probably like it
kindred ivy
half turtle
i always feel greedy pressing f for damage lol
kindred ivy
did u learn where it from?
the original build was for CC
doinks
the smite is for CC
the CC from smite is insane
half turtle
yeh
kindred ivy
unparalelled
the revovler into crepeing flames
is the cherry on tpo
the OG idea was just CC
cosmic sigil
soulstealer is for the killing made with smite/flames?
half turtle
revolver icon knife zealot in twins seems to entirely be just for revolver damage
bright mica
but yeah for your usual CKnife/DS4/Deimos + Surge Staff (Terrifying Barrage is actually really useful here) Creeping Flames spam build this is very strong. Alt if you want True Aim although I don't remember how Surge Staff functions current patch because they keep fucking with it
Does it always target heads now or nah
half turtle
surge hits chest right
bright mica
It did always heads for a bit, then random bodyparts, then always heads, and then I think they did something to it again?
Is it chest only now?
fucking A just leave that staff alone it was fine to just remove the EP bug on it
severe folio
can see why you dont have enough point for WS
a lot of investment into smite
wildfire
bright mica
I don't hang out in Psyker chat often
severe folio
yes you do
bright mica
wym for WS both of those use WS the latter just assumes Surge hits heads again
severe folio
what else use WS
bright mica
for a Creeping Flames spam build I rarely go all the way down because getting 6 stacks is unlikely during hordes
Girl I don't know I play mostly Ogryn and only force myself to play Psyker for weekly melk coins
severe folio
well
bright mica
do you wanna do my math homework for me
bright mica
I'll try
I already worked it out I just have to write it down on paper to make it look like I worked it out properly and didn't hamfist the answer
urban sandal
does the trauma staff preform well on auric or should I stick to the void?
probably the best for teamplay
bright mica
I fucking hate linear algebra can someone kill my professor
severe folio
trauma does well for solo too
bright mica
does the trauma staff preform well on auric or should I stick to the void?
Post your trauma/voidstrike also trauma is probably easier both are good though
Trauma is the most survivable ranged weapon in the game tbf
Since you can just trauma M2 at your feet
severe folio
i dont use trauma often so its not the easiest staff for me
bright mica
Surge with suppression is probably the most braindead I'd say tbh
flat moat
Post your trauma/voidstrike also trauma is probably *easier* both are good thoug...
Struggling to make a good trauma build, probably gonna stick to the void for horde clear
severe folio
mean braindead in term of, idiotic or braindead in tem of easy
shy fiber
Recommended perks for blazing spirit trauma staff?
bright mica
mean braindead in term of, idiotic or braindead in tem of easy
latter
urban sandal
crit chance and flak
severe folio
crit chance and flak
i believe its kind of stupid
severe folio
Recommended perks for blazing spirit trauma staff?
you have a good base ?
bright mica
Recommended perks for blazing spirit trauma staff?
Crit chance and then you kinda just choose between flak, maniac, unyielding or cara
severe folio
no carapace
severe folio
yeah more of a rending trauma
bright mica
but if its what you rolled then you can live with it yk
severe folio
but does your fire trauma have a good base
because if its not i dont think it will be working properly
bright mica
I'd probably just say flak or unyielding, a lot of ppl go unyielding on melee for the idea that you'd apply DOTs on boss then switch to melee but usually with blaze trauma I just keep hammering away on my staff whether its on the boss or anything nearby
shy fiber
but does your fire trauma have a good base
I'm trying to get one rn
shy fiber
I'd probably just say flak or unyielding, a lot of ppl go unyielding on melee fo...
I wanted to use it for karnak fight lmao
Just so I can CC and kill the crowd
severe folio
hmm
bright mica
Rending Trauma is imho better in that case
severe folio
i wasnt in psyker channel when they were doing karnak twin
bright mica
Rending Trauma arguably has better CC
urban sandal
if he's dedicated to horde/ad clear then blazing trauma is fine for the boss fight
bright mica
Yeah I get you
ornate hamlet
Now that I think of it
bright mica
I like to run Rend Trauma with Creeping Flames and Assail
shy fiber
I'll be using a BB build
ornate hamlet
One factor in soublaze dealing low damage is overkill damage from other weapons
ornate hamlet
You'll pretty much never have a DoT overkill an enemy
bright mica
Huh
shy fiber
Sucks for Karnak*
ornate hamlet
No, I mean
ornate hamlet
When the enemy dies, that's it
ornate hamlet
It doesn't tick anymore
spice veldt
Sucks for Karnak*
almost got shanked
bright mica
Ngl for Karnak it's kinda hard to say since like
ornate hamlet
But you can nuke a poxwalker for like 1800 damage or something high like that using specific weapons
bright mica
Psyker I'd say is probably the worst or 2nd worst class for the fight.
Zealot and Ogryn go crazy for it while Vet is prob the worst imho
Maybe Voidstrike + Smite with bubble
Chainsword would in theory do very good shield damage for the Twins
but you don't wanna take aggro regardless
I'd probably go CKnife for mobility
no Wounds so Zealots aura and health stims work better
god save your soul you don't get randomly 1 tapped in hard mode
at least Kinetic Deflection makes you far more survivable than Vets in this fight
man imagine if they added a chain knife
Need.
Okay I didn't expect them to exist but actually that'd fuck
lethal lagoon
There are two routes for psyker to do twins.
1, full on elite/horde clear, ignore the bosses.
- mk5 columbus, boss focus.
bright mica
Yea
lethal lagoon
There's a cool vid of 4 psykers doing a really easy run of twin hard mode, lemme find it.
Should be timestamped correctly.
severe folio
Okay I didn't expect them to exist but actually that'd fuck
thats an ork choppa lol
THIS is a chainknife
bright mica
thats an ork choppa lol
Nah I posted a hivegang chain knife although I had the same thought too
bright mica
THIS is a chainknife
That feels like a model from a fallout mod lol
bright mica
FROM FUCKING FALLOUT
knew it lmfao
kindred ivy
That feels like a model from a fallout mod lol
cause it is literally from fallout
bright mica
cause it is literally from fallout <:XD:1037816682397319248>
my autism knows no bounds
ugh this assignment is due in 7 hours and I have class in between
plucky flax
There are two routes for psyker to do twins.
Why did I have to do both with pugs? 
bright mica
who the fuck gives 8 hours of homework on Saturday due the next day
sadistic
half my class hasn't began it I pray for them
severe folio
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Ripper_(GRA)
WTF
kindred ivy
wat
lethal lagoon
Why did I have to do both with pugs? <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
Cause there's no scoreboard so 99% of pubs never actually learn how to play the game and all think they are carrying.
plucky flax
I think i am carrying in sedition.
lethal lagoon
Secretly doing hardmode with sedition low lvl pubs to get the bell unlock was hilarious
One guy thought he was bugged behind the wall after dying π
Or was that uprising?
I don't remember these names.
vocal iron
difficulty 2 is the lowest for special mission
severe folio
no image of chainknife π
kindred ivy
its a fallout knife
severe folio
severe folio
a what
left dagger
psyker is squishy enough alredy, should i run +toughness on all 3 curio or spread 1 toughness 1 health 1 stam/wound?
left dagger
deimos light spam is pretty good yeah
severe folio
but you arent going to find a melee focus
lethal lagoon
For melee build, Slaughter and Uncanny.
Flaming shriek and warp charges, or Assail, SG, EP.
severe folio
melee psyker contract should have extra pay
ornate hamlet
Check this out, siblings.
untold widget
I use slaughterer bloodthirsty with my illisi, if I even use it. Charge heavy swing into light swing into regular heavy swing into light swing
mulches hordes
it's not super great for armored elites though, crushers and maulers can hinder you quite a bit
lucid turret
Can power cycler roll on the blaze force sword
urban sandal
no
lucid turret
ornate hamlet
Fellas, I need to nerf my fire shriek loadout
I shall downgrade from illisi to deimos
lofty spade
LET'S GOO!! Just did Twins on Hard with no Ogryns and I was the Psyker!!
ivory heath
yo been away for a bit whats the meta lookin like rn
lofty spade
and they said psykers shouldn't be doing twins on hard, I was clearing that mobs with my surge staff while the team damages the boss lol
severe folio
in this HI-auric gauntlet i was pair with another psyker with both smite and purg
lose all the warpfire to the purg psyker lol
ornate hamlet
I should install this funny mod
karmic roost
what would you guys say is the current meta for psyker? cause im strugglin lol
at least on damnation
ornate hamlet
Well, depends
Mk4 dueling sword, revolver and assail is one of my builds
Illisi, voidstrike and fire shriek is the other
karmic roost
i was for a while using the flame staff and headpop with the illsi sword
and its gotten me far but im beginning to feel the pain there
good wave clear but when we get tons of elites it gets rough
not to mention the twins are tough
so im just trying to figure it out
ornate hamlet
Don't think too much about the twins
severe folio
the twin is a very different fight with the rest of the game
ornate hamlet
They can get a bit specific on equipment due to their fight and how many people just skip to it
karmic roost
someone claimed melee psyker is strong as fuck now? even for the twins
glossy ember
the twins are kinda shit for psyker
karmic roost
well either way, if anyones got recommended builds thats worked for them, aside from that i'll just look some up
formal hill
Just did the twin fight on the special difficulty, was fun
karmic roost
as psyker? what build? O:
formal hill
No, but having a sanctuary and smite psyker is extremely helpful
I was Ogryn personally
karmic roost
oh yeah ogys are goated
ivory heath
which staff is workin best in twins?
formal hill
Void or Surge
karmic roost
I would gather void yeah
ivory heath
been runnin void ya and just focusing add clear but wasnt sure
formal hill
Realistically you need a king gamer vet imo
formal hill
1 psyker, 1 vet, 2 Ogryn with shovels to focus the boss
karmic roost
the new shovel no doubt?
glass forge
what blessing goes well with Surge 2 shot on critical hit? Warp nexus for critical chance based on peril? Blaze to set fire on critical so blaze x2 every critical hit?
ivory heath
are zealots not good on twins? i figured they would be with bonk stick
left dagger
Check this out, siblings.
perfect roll, i still need to cope with lv3 riposte
karmic roost
i heard support zealots were great
formal hill
Yes, corruption clear zealot is nice
ivory heath
bouta run with a zealot so i guess we will see lol
formal hill
But if you run 3 curios with corruption resistance it's better imo
Having 2 Skullbreakers to charge across map and clear all the mines is extemely useful too
left dagger
Corrup Resis, Gunner Reistaance, and Toughness Regen for the 3 curio perks?
left dagger
theres still shotgunners
formal hill
If you have a single plasma vet they shouldn't even be able to spawn really
Even with randoms you really need teamwork
A lot more than usual
ornate hamlet
Shotgunners don't count as gunners, only gunners themselves and reapers
karmic roost
okay level with me here, what makes a zealot player NOT stupid? I love playing zealots but i know many people hate dealing with them
I try to legit play with my team though
karmic roost
oh good i do both lol
formal hill
A good zealot is a great addition
But a bad zealot is kinda buisness as usual
Usually, the zealot archtype is someone who is too confident in their own skill, usually a loner zealot, and just dies
Rev it up and all that
formal hill
Idk what They're doing, but most zealots I play with, I only see down and do no damage
Idk if they're just hard to build for people or what
Dont get me wrong, some zealots are king gamer, but in my experience it's rare
karmic roost
yeah idk if im a king gamer but i am trying to not be a soloing shithead
my goal is always "sees team being attacked by wave, run in and swing like a crazy person"
formal hill
It's the same feeling as when the vet shoots the burster that you're pushing
Or it gets brain bursted
You're just like, oh boy, this'll be fun
plucky flax
well either way, if anyones got recommended builds thats worked for them, aside ...
Top 1% psyker thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvaenOLrY9A
Assail, cdr aura, creeping flames, ep.
karmic roost
i shall watch
plucky flax
Melee weapon I recommend knife or ds4 with uncanny. Range anything that let you take out elites/specials and be mobile. Laspistol or revolver work good for me.
karmic roost
It's the same feeling as when the vet shoots the burster that you're pushing
lmao oh god that shit drives me nuts
hm I shall try this actually
i always shy away from melee/gun psykers cause i thought for a while they were just "fun" gimmick buulds but this looks pretty strong
sleek lynx
WTH?
kindred ivy
wait untill u see my smite revolver
gloomy magnet
so pinky, pinky is warpy
sturdy quest
left dagger
the taint of slaneesh
umbral helm
Hadron forgot to install CS:Source for you
glossy ember
but yeah for your usual CKnife/DS4/Deimos + Surge Staff (Terrifying Barrage is a...
TBpill me on terrifying barrage
severe folio
this emperor gift was so close to perfection
bright mica
TBpill me on terrifying barrage
Obviously Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry is the DPS option, Terrifying Barrage essentially keeps anything close to you in a daze letting you not worry about trash approaching you at all with Surge.
Trading damage for braindead levels of survivability and arguably more sustained DPS as you never have to switch off of anti-Elite duty to slap away a poxwalker
I'd still value WNexus + WFlurry above it, but WFlurry + TBarrage is not bad
Especially for cough console players cough
glossy ember
does TB actually work against trash?
bright mica
Yeah they do a funny dance
Probably the only weapon in the entire game where TB does anything of note
glossy ember
i thought it only worked on the gunners
umbral helm
from what I've understood TB has always technically worked as intended it's just not an effect that has much use on most things
bright mica
huh no
severe folio
went down to a hunting ground damnation to see if the smite flame thing still hold
bright mica
i thought it only worked on the gunners
it makes most enemies except like Crushers/Bulwarks and bosses do a funny techno dance
severe folio
idk how the other two guy got more score
glossy ember
i'll give TB a shot if I ever see a good surge staff then
nexus is my priority tbh, i can play without flurry
bright mica
That's fair
I hve a Flurry + TB but I might try a Nexus + TB
because on Aurics it's actually quite useful to just ignore every piece of trash
focus on popping elites and once any threat is dead do the funny Creeping Flames
I've seen it even make Maulers just look at you as if they're disgusted instead of fighting you π
ornate hamlet
I have tried deimos again for 1 (one) match
I simply cannot stand having such a bad special
Illisi my beloved
bright mica
Meanwhile I never use the special on Illisi π
ornate hamlet
Once more I can build peril not at a snail's pace
bright mica
Ohh
You can weapon swap to use Deimos for peril buildup
Special - Quick Switch - Quick Switch - Repeat
basically as fast as Illisi but more jank
ornate hamlet
I know, but it's actually much slower
bright mica
Just get a 5% Warp Res Deimos like me π
umbral helm
because on Aurics it's actually quite useful to just ignore every piece of trash
giving CC to the staff again would also mean people might feel more comfortable using other blitzes besides smite with it, though there's probably going to be some overlap, but that doesn't really matter to me as long as it's fun to play
bright mica
giving CC to the staff again would also mean people might feel more comfortable ...
Unironically TB on Surge is kinda better CC than pre-rework π
hordes just start dancing around you while you kill elites
It's like detonating a mini Zealot stun grenade every kill
on your body
I don't wanna say its slept on because it's not, many people know about it
the guide in pins defo underrates it
"trash tier" dawg
π
severe folio
when youare using deimos you dont want to spam the special attack too often
deimos shine in its stabby attacks and thats where its outperforming its force attacks
bright mica
They're complaining that you can't use Deimos to peril farm as effectively as Illisi prob cus they use Creeping Flames
umbral helm
it's an effect that does what it's supposed to, it's mostly just felt like it isn't needed on most things because a lot of weapons have suppression while using them anyway, so it's not that it doesn't do anything, it's that it feels redundant to most people.
bright mica
I mean you can get 85% at least on my Deimos with 3 charges
pretty quickly using QQ
but it's jank
so I get it
bright mica
it's an effect that does what it's supposed to, it's mostly just felt like it is...
Yeah the suppression from TB is scarcely used since most weapons that get it are either...
- Autoguns with limited ammo that don't benefit from it anyway.
- Staves with far more crucial blessings.
umbral helm
I like the idea of it though. I'm willing to experiment
bright mica
Surge is like, the only weapon in the game that benefits from it since you kind of move like a snail using it anyway
and it has no CC by default anymore
so TB just makes you do an AOE stun, a few dodges here and there to avoid shooters and a poxwalker that slips thru etc.
Again I still think going max on damage is better but TB + WNex/WFlur actually isn't bad
Ugh I have to do a math problem but I have completely 0 energy
fuckkk its worth 3 points
-n-
umbral helm
well, yeah. there's typically better options, but the goal is interesting, or useful, even if it's not that good
bright mica
Oh I mean, it's good
It defo works and defo increases survivability
it's just in a premade mo damage would be better
back when I used Surge I liked TB on pubs
you can have an entire horde around you and just chill
no care in the world
pop shotgunners instead
hilariously enemies will often try approaching you and form a solid wall around you not letting unsupressed enemies through
umbral helm
ye, speaking generally. I'll take something interesting that performs worse over something that performs better but is bland comparatively
bright mica
Yea I'd defo rate it as like, it'd 3rd best blessing
which considering it has like
5
isn't much
but it works
if you find a Surge and it has TB don't cry about it
it's got a niche :P
ornate hamlet
TB's suppression is like giving the enemies a hiccup
umbral helm
isn't much
I do think that is one problem this game has always had, even now, when it comes to build variety. there's just not a lot of options to begin with, so you have maybe at best 2 or 3 build "choices" and that's counting whatever's meta at the time
there's less opportunities for silly builds because there's just not much to work with
bright mica
TB's suppression is like giving the enemies a hiccup
It's very funny because the animations are so out of place, it looks like enemies around you suddenly got covid brainfog LMFAO
bright mica
I do think that is one problem this game has always had, even now, when it come...
This game has too many must have blessings
Brutal Momentum and Power Cycler are worst offenders in this
If a weapon is quite literally non-functional without a very specific blessing that blessing should be flat out deleted and integrated into basekit imho
Uncanny Strikes also
umbral helm
well, the problem in power cycler's case was it used to just be how power sword worked, you'd get 2 swings with it, but that was "too good" and it got knocked down to a single activated swing
bright mica
Power Cycler is just "this blessing unnerfs power sword"
Just... remove the blessing and make 3 swings basekit
It's so pointless
hasty breach
yeah it's a shame bc there's basically an arms race between higher difficulty and better gear.
bright mica
Nobody uses anything other than Brutal Momentum on Power Swords either
because it's another insanely broken must pick
Axes without BM are literally unusable
you go from killing 1 enemy per swing to 4
Thats a 400% improvement from a blessing
That's fucked
bright mica
Nobody uses anything other than Brutal Momentum on Power Swords either
granted BM used to be even more broken
I really hope we get a Blessing balance patch
there's so many blessings that are meme status
severe folio
if theres a blessing balance patch
bright mica
Perfect Strike for example lmao
bright mica
Hopefully if they do a balancing patch they get it right the first time
Instead of surge staffing it
or Vet skill treeing it
umbral helm
I think the reasoning was that everybody just used power sword because it was the best option vet had and there was little reason to use much else, so they wanted to shake it up, but didn't bring anything else up for a while
glossy ember
Surge is like, the only weapon in the game that benefits from it since you kind ...
wym you move kinda fast while charging...
bright mica
wym you move kinda fast while charging...
Well it's no Gunker hipfiring a Columnus at Mach 1
severe folio
lightning fast
umbral helm
I like the move speed possible with gunker because I really enjoy keeping up or even outpacing the stealth loner zealot running ahead like "alright buddy, where we going? kinda leaving everybody behind back there"
bright mica
I like the move speed possible with gunker because I really enjoy keeping up or ...
Gunker makes me feel like John Wick
actually nothing more fun in this game than running thru 15 Shotgunners on Gaze with Columnus
holding down M1 as the scoreboard fills up
none of them can hit you because you're moving at 15m/s
sleek lynx
Hadron forgot to install CS:Source for you
These replies were honestly all great...thank you for making my night a little brighter π
glass forge
How do we play Void staff well? Even with Surge blessing on Void staff i feel it isnt as strong as trauma staff. Trauma staff can repeatedly stunlock everything in melee range. If i use void staff in melee range in one direction, other enemies still melee me. most of the time horde climbs over some walls, crawl up under some hole and get into melee range. rarely are there maps with unobstructed hallways to take advantage of void staff's long range
plucky flax
Don't use void in horde unless it's a tunnel/funnel.
potent echo
How do we play Void staff well? Even with Surge blessing on Void staff i feel it...
Yea void's main advantage is range and damage, even at close range a full charge surge should kill a line of elites
Usually I pull out void when there's a line of elites/horde charging at me
Otherwise you run around with melee+assail
Trying to use void as a "primary weapon" leads to quite suboptimal gameplay imo
glass forge
Trying to use void as a "primary weapon" leads to quite suboptimal gameplay imo
Thank you for the advice, i will focus on melee when using void staff
potent echo
Make sure you bring assail for that kind of playstyle
Usually in games you might end up in situations where there are scattered shooters around you in a room
Void is terrible at clearing this, don't even bother
Melee without assail works but you will get shot at by the other shooters while you are chasing some down, best would be to retreat or move to cover and void from there, which is also going to be painfully slow
With assail you can swing and drag your mouse around and solve the entire issue
rotund dagger
Assail is insanely easy
Just M1 and Win
Was thinking of replacing this for the sake of big number
potent echo
If you have 25k plasteel to spare
Maybe for surge it's easier since there are fewer blessings
bright mica
Don't use void in horde unless it's a tunnel/funnel.
I mean you can and well, you just need to quickly deal with any immediate threats that you cant dodge
plucky flax
I'm not that good.
half iron
force big sword
shy prairie
i hunger for psyker melees
I hunger for unique gameplay too much head clicking on veteran
glass forge
agree, every fps games have guns
idle bay
By the Emprah! Toughness +17% drop from mission.
Alredy bricked unless good last perk π
Yup.. bricked +10% block on last slot
plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
glossy ember
i'd use it tbh
block cost is nice
x3 block on curio and remove KD to save a talent point
half iron
0x block and no kd
i ball
shy prairie
alpine rune
is psyker just too squishy for a reliable melee build? the builds page is full of nothing but staffs, guns, and assail
cosmic sigil
Just... remove the blessing and make 3 swings basekit
so that well take bm + slaughterer?
digital narwhal
is psyker just too squishy for a reliable melee build? the builds page is full o...
Psyker melee is very strong, but they don't have the tools to be aggressive with it, like Ogryn and Zealot.
So like... it's super strong, but it's hard to approach with it.
That's why all "Melee Psykers" are, in reality, hybrids.
dim parrot
umbral helm
learning to dance is part of it
dim parrot
the aggressive glass canon sword
umbral helm
I run illisi melee with yeehaw revolver as a backup, a lot of the usual talents you'd pick for gunker, and it does well as long as I remember my spacing and timings
half iron
if the enemy has a head iβm going to accidentally hit it
dim parrot
tried the revolver, but guns are just not made for me
umbral helm
I'd probably benefit more from DS4 if I wanted to be more efficient, but I manage
half iron
i still need to try the amongus autogun but the stub got me in a marriage and i donβt wanna do paperwork to seperate myself from it
plucky flax
You can melee stuff with assail left click.
umbral helm
honestly a little animation where you jab the crystal into them if they're too close would be kinda funny
rare storm
@plucky flax What was your blaze trauma staff like again? Is it same as the one in the guide
glass forge
honestly a little animation where you jab the crystal into them if they're too c...
does it still use up the crystal if you jab with crystal?
umbral helm
maybe? would depend if you leave it in them I guess or if it's just a stab and pull away. could maybe make it an alternate action with the button for those
that's got me thinking about weapons made of those crystals now
iron goblet
Am I being really dumb. Where on the skill tree do I upgrade Pyrokinetic wrath to reduce peril?
umbral helm
it's just the ability, in the tree. though they did make the base version you start with reduce like, 10% I think?
iron goblet
It's a red image, a lot of videos i've seen it's blue?
plucky flax
<@150967101836886016> What was your blaze trauma staff like again? Is it same as...
No slightly different I believe.
umbral helm
that's the old color it used to be, probably an old video
iron goblet
ahh gotcha
so the base 10% version just get's upgraded as you level up?
I'm only lvl 17
rare storm
No slightly different I believe.
Do you remember the arsonist staff
plucky flax
No wots dat?
rare storm
Your staff LOL
umbral helm
so the base 10% version just get's upgraded as you level up?
so, you start with that one, and then in your tree there's the node for the upgraded version, on the left side. that upgrades it to do 50%, it's tied to the ability itself. just gotta have the points to reach it, which you should at level 17
iron goblet
so, you start with that one, and then in your tree there's the node for the upgr...
aaaah. venting shriek. Ty ty
umbral helm
ye, feel free to experiment with your tree as you level, assuming you're fresh. you can at any point revert your choices and go down a different path
plucky flax
Your staff LOL
What about it? 
rare storm
Do you remember the perks*
rotund dagger
Purga
olive ember
Imagine taking unyielding on purge
π€
I canβt find anything bad to say about taking unyielding on purge
rare storm
Purga or blaze trauma?
Blaze trauma
rare storm
Purga i have flak and unyielding.
Aye okay same
rotund dagger
We love Unyielding Damage
You can always take it because bosses will always be a threat
frail sand
cold geode
magic hull
Damn bro
clear musk
Hey, anyone got a good build at the moment for brain burst, really struggling past 2nd difficulty level. I like popping brains but it seems like I pop one elite and others pop several in the same amount of time. I wield a chain sword and void staff if that helps. Canβt send screen shots as on Xbox.
urban sandal
I run brain burst with a devil's claw sword and trauma staff but that may not be your ideal weapons, it really depends on what role you want to fulfil
left basin
best knife for siker
severe folio
that mask and gnosis is the one that give demonic voice ?
left basin
yes
severe folio
damn
severe folio
oh
crude cape
i just dont understand trapper rats and assassin rats in vt2
they seem so much harder/less clear how to dodge/avoid them
than trappers and dogs in darktide
the hook rat dodge timing is so weird, and half the time you interrupt him he just hooks you anyway
rather than having a clear sound + fire, he just like lunges at you suddenly, idk
anyone had success learning/going back to vt2 after playing darktide? im struggling lol. i want my sprint and slide dodging
west thorn
Hey, anyone got a good build at the moment for brain burst, really struggling pa...
In my experience brain burst shouldnβt be your main weapon against elites, use your void strike instead. Bb is best for sniping far away specials or bombers in cover and so forth
mint pivot
Also to aggro that pack of 5 crushers and 10 maulers sitting idle behind 2 hordes
Always fun to lure those in to suprise those pesky shoutys
Is it helmets or something that modifies the voice lines?
west thorn
Specific ones, at least the navigator helmet does. I think thereβs one other one for psykers
urban sandal
Is it helmets or something that modifies the voice lines?
yeah
mint pivot
Some specific helms only, i take it?
urban sandal
a recent zealot helmet named Ecclesiarchy Approved Diadem is one that makes your character's voice sound much different than to just a regular gas mask
mint pivot
Any for our lovely psykers?
urban sandal
the black helmet in the 2nd page bundle set
mint pivot
theres 2 different ones. 1 sold on its own and one in the set. Both modify the voice line or only the one in the set?
urban sandal
just the one in the set
urban sandal
yup
glossy ember
neat look
