#psyker-class

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topaz sleet
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oh i just tested it in the psyckanium

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so i guess it works

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tho what do you mean?

quasi junco
topaz sleet
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oh that

quasi junco
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ive heard its maybe mid on trauma blaze builds, but bad everywhere else

quartz barn
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i use it on blaze trauma for more aoe fire

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still not that great tho

topaz sleet
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oh just stright up not worth it?

quartz barn
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it can occasionally kill a sniper in the back lol

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no the low dot dmg on the first few stacks doesnt add a whole lot

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  • on purgatus you always apply more, so the single stack from wildfire is just wasted
topaz sleet
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oh Oof

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also heres my staff currently

plucky flax
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I use wildfire and I'm top 1% psyker so you should use it too.

quartz barn
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hey im a top 1% too and i use it as well

topaz sleet
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oh welp

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guess i can keep it maybe

quartz barn
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so ignore my older comments just pick it i guess lol

topaz sleet
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tho is the staff im using good?

plucky flax
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Top 1% fren whatthefuck_heresy

vast yew
quartz barn
vast yew
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otherwise gud

topaz sleet
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i had warp nexus on it i just wanted faster charge speed

vast yew
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oh Warp Flurry is Great

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Flurry + Nexus is the usual setup

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Crits are important because they give 2 stacks of Soulblaze instead of 1

topaz sleet
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oh yeah

vast yew
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and let you trigger Empathic Evasion/Mettle/Perfect Timing constantly

topaz sleet
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i could probably try getting warp neuxs back at some point

vast yew
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Purg staves only have 5 total blessings and one of them is locked to T2

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so upgrade a few random staves to blue and you'll probably find it pretty quick

topaz sleet
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hohigh does your peril have to be for the full vrit chance on it?

cloud heron
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does anyone know if it's possible to wake a daemonhost with soublaze?

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not like a regular purge rmb or something. I mean it spreading to the daemonhost through like blazing spirit or perilous combustion

vast yew
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I think they fixed PC and Wildfire spreading to hosts

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but I think Creeping Flames and Blazing Spirit can still set it off

cloud heron
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i'm trying to test it in the psykhanium but it's hard to tell. Apparently the daemonhost doesnt get any visuals for having soulblaze procced on it but it definitely takes damage

vast yew
neat summit
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What staves are we pairing with smite? Just surge?

vast yew
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Voidstrike and sometimes Surge yeah

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Voidstrike isn't really going to use any other blitz ever so why not take the panic button y'know

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Surge IMO can go Smite or Assail depending on taste

neat summit
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Iโ€™m not a huge assail fan

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Purg seems like it wants a bunch of talents to support it, so that feels out. Trauma seems redundant.

vast yew
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Purg and Trauma are redundant yeah

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they both have a good amount of CC so no need to take more CC when you could kill stuff

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though Trauma kinda does everything so the blitz is kind of whatever; I personally go BB to let me kill gunners from cover when there's a ton of them

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but even then it doesn't see a ton of use; maybe a few times per mission, if that

neat summit
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I do Purg BB as my main build

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And it slaps

cloud heron
potent zenith
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thoughts?

vast yew
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yeah Purg really needs either BB or Assail to snipe threats at range

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and BB gives you Psykinetic's Aura + you have plenty of horde clear so don't really need assail, so pretty easy choice for BB IMO

potent zenith
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should i eat for shred for my other sword for fire? or make this into flak and maniac?

vast yew
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man Hadron did a number on that sword

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Superiority is pretty meh on an Illisi, and Shred/Blazing Spirit is fun but performs worse than just running Slaughterer

neat summit
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Deflector always good imo

potent zenith
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so just eat it for shred?

vast yew
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Either Deflector/Slaughterer or Uncanny/Slaughterer is the way to go for an Illisi

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if you've got a Blazing Spirit Illisi that you're already using then yeah I guess eat for Shred

potent zenith
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kk

worthy dune
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I thought that was like moba/hero shooter only

static needle
# neat summit Deflector always good imo

i know im just coming into this convo out of the blue but i'd like to voice a take, it's not a very informed but i think it's enough. Deflector kinda is a crutch for subpar positioning and cover usage. Even more so if you arent running smite and have bubble shield

vast yew
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Illisi with Slaughterer is pretty much completely functional

static needle
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idk uncanny is crazy with slaughterer

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hol up

vast yew
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Deimos with Uncanny is pretty much functional

static needle
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deimos would benefit more, right?

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yeah figures

vast yew
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like you can go Slaughterer on a Deimos to make it horde clear better... slightly...

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if you don't want Deflector then it's probably the best perk

static needle
glossy ember
vast yew
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it's certainly an option

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but Deflector to help you when your super-squishy wizard is caught out of position also helps

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2nd perk on Force Swords is very open to preference

static needle
glossy ember
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uh idk

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amd magic i guess

static needle
vast yew
plucky flax
static needle
plucky flax
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So it must be real.

glossy ember
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did u lie to me..

vast yew
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If your Deimos has stats that end up with damage vs. Maniac Headshots showing 1067 or higher, you one-shot them with +25% Maniacs and H2 headshot

plucky flax
glossy ember
vast yew
static needle
static needle
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ofc, this is assuming u aim for the head

vast yew
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just "Oh look a mutie, boop"

static needle
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i prefer the unyielding dmg

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tbh

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big boss damage

vast yew
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Deimos meta is Unyielding/Maniac

static needle
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lol

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rip

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i have unyielding flak on mine

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actually no

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i have unyielding carapace

worthy dune
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I cannot get a fuckin tier 4 on these weapons for the life of me

vast yew
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I mean that still one-taps Muties you just need some extra buffs

static needle
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carapace is good on it tho right?

vast yew
plucky flax
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Yeah I run carapace on ds4 and deimos.

static needle
plucky flax
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With uncanny it's big damage.

static needle
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doesnt give u breakpoints to the best of my knowledge

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for ds4

plucky flax
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It helps with break point. At 100% it's 3 pokes rather than 4.

vast yew
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DS4 3-shots Crushers even without Carapace

plucky flax
static needle
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exactly

vast yew
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as long as you have full Uncanny

static needle
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with DD

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its amazeballs

untold widget
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y'all talking a lot of shit about being top 1% psykers

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are there even leaderboards?

plucky flax
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Pls no flame.

untold widget
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or are you just blowing smoke up your own ass?

plucky flax
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Even top 1% makes mistake.

static needle
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xd

vast yew
untold widget
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gottem

plucky flax
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Can't do 1 million plus without wildfife.

vast yew
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run a Scab Melee without it and post your scoreboard

static needle
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ye psykinetics aura is infinitely better for the team

vast yew
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You won't

untold widget
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Can't do 1mil if you don't dawdle and pad your stat tracker

plucky flax
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Dawdle? Xd

untold widget
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yeah

plucky flax
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I don't but okay.

untold widget
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y'all doing 1 mil damage in a 20 minute game?

vast yew
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he's doing it in Scab Melee

severe folio
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37 actually

plucky flax
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If you can do it then big up to you.

severe folio
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in an auric maelstrom

plucky flax
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37 mins and 32 mins.

severe folio
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i think

untold widget
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padding them stats

vast yew
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Scab Melee + Blaze Trauma = huge damage numbers due to all the burning Elites from Blazing Spirit and PC

static needle
untold widget
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that's why I don't play with mods. I just run the mission

severe folio
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then how do you know the effectiveness of everything else beside fire trauma

untold widget
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effective = no die

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not effective = die

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pretty easy

plucky flax
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It's okay top 1% carry my games daily.

vast yew
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Real talk Wildfire does have a place in allowing Soulblaze to spread to trigger In Fire Reborn more reliably... but outside of trying for Warp Battery penance I don't think it really matters

static needle
severe folio
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thats what the speedy invisivle zealot do too

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but thats not actually effective is it

untold widget
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fire reborn is trash, psychic vampire is better 99% of the time

severe folio
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can stay alive by just mostly stay behind allies

static needle
vast yew
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Speedy Invisible Zealot either runs 20 miles ahead of team and dies, rages, then quits
or
Runs 20 miles ahead, kills all the Reapers, stealth-revives anyone who goes down and carries the match
There is no in-between

severe folio
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but thats not really how effective it is

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theres an inbetween

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they run 40 miles ahead, leave everyone to die and extract

untold widget
vast yew
severe folio
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so not dying is not enough of a criteria

vast yew
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I love turning a corner into 7 Crushers and two Rager Waves backed by 20 Gunners

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thanks buddy

untold widget
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[Sharpens dueling sword] Well this is gonna end poorly for one of us.

vast yew
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The trapper behind the Crushers: Cowabunga

severe folio
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theres only 1 of you

plucky flax
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I don't mind it I can survive by myself.

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Just top 1% things.

untold widget
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The trapper on the other side of the 3mm mesh fence

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more like it

severe folio
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and theres more than 1 of them

quasi junco
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damn 885 plasteel from mission rewards, a record for me

untold widget
quasi junco
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im grouped with a sciers voidstaff user

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interesting

ionic sorrel
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What set up are folks using for twins hard mode?

glossy ember
plucky flax
ionic sorrel
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Got a pic of your talent tree by any chance?

plucky flax
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Uuuh assail cdr aura creeping flame ep true aim.

ionic sorrel
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Cool, got it.

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What do you use on crushers? I don't run laspistol and dagger a lot. Is the pistol good or do you stab them.

plucky flax
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Uncanny on knife.

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Or you can run ds4 with uncanny too.

ionic sorrel
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I have been having pretty good luck with the dueling sword usually the last or second to last alive. But dagger probably has some benefits.

plucky flax
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I purely used the dagger for bleed.

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Flesh tearer blessing. For the extra damage on bosses.

barren dome
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www1525 hh

neat summit
quasi grotto
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is this flak maniac too?

plucky flax
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I use flak maniac. Some do crit chance flak, or flak carapace even.

quasi grotto
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gotcha. i guess with the blessings being good i can be flexible on the perks

static needle
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For voidstrike staff, ive heard that flurry + surge is the best combo for big crit damage on big targets and small alike.

ionic sorrel
quasi grotto
static needle
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can you proc crits easily with true aim alone?

rotund fable
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good staff or no? it's at melk's right now for 1200.

glossy ember
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nah

mental rock
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Need higher burn stat

quasi grotto
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warp flurry is a good blessing for purgatus though

rotund fable
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I'm tempted to grab it just to get warp flurry 4 off it

quasi grotto
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if you're swimming in melk bux maybe worth

rotund fable
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i got 6k

dim cradle
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Hey y'all, what's the diff between left click smite and the charged right click smite?

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when would you use left click?

quasi junco
green carbon
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left click is in my book just a panic button to quickly stagger something that turned up in your face

spiral remnant
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oh lawd...

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i'm at 11 golden forcee swords

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i've been stuck trying to get uncanny strike t4 for my deimos...

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if i get another t4 slaughterer somebody is gonna caatch hands

green carbon
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I shall offer a prayer to the Omnissiah in your name.

marble pebble
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so fellow Psykers

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how do we feel about guns instead of staves ?

green carbon
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While I am mostly a staff enjoyer, guns are pretty good

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I see a decent amount of psykers run the OG revolver

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as well as some autoguns

marble pebble
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i tried void staff but like

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the revolver which you can aim is so satisfying

green carbon
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yeah absolutely

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I just get plenty of gun fun with other classes, so I keep my psyker as a pure wizard, mostly

marble pebble
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nailing snipers across the map is

green carbon
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also my main psyker build is a soulblaze BB one

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so I have my blitz for all my sniping needs

marble pebble
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mine is smite bubble

spiral remnant
green carbon
spiral remnant
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i got like 4x 375+ of the new revolver...

marble pebble
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i just cant use the other blitzes for psyker

green carbon
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though I feel on psyker it's not specialised enough

marble pebble
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being emperor palpatine is just too much fun

spiral remnant
green carbon
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purgatus + wrath + bb + all soulblaze talents

spiral remnant
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nice...

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i dont see many psykers running wrath nowadays

green carbon
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the shield's just really good, yeah

spiral remnant
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smite definitely has more utility but wrath helps a lot in those situations where your team is on the backfoot

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and needs to alleviate pressure from a big crowd

green carbon
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smite is a blitz, wrath is an ability

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you can run both, though you really wouldn't most of the time

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I do like how with the soulblaze setup you can keep spamming wrath against hordes

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cause you immediately get all siphon stacks back from the blaze

tranquil plume
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scryer gaze gun psyker deal is that it has extra crit and some tie in benefits when getting crits happening so weapon that benefit from crits a lot like revolvers are the main stay, like the new revolver is bad for getting crits shots like the OG can also benefit from a scryer gun psyker build

spiral remnant
tranquil plume
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the dps bump is on demand but base CD is 30 seconds so u can have it ready very fast

spiral remnant
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wait

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whats the 3rd ability then?

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ohhh yeah scriers gaze

stuck bridge
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lol

green carbon
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that's the true forgotten one xD

stuck bridge
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everyone's reaction to scriers gaze

spiral remnant
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forgot that one even existed...

green carbon
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even if people use it you don't really notice, since it's just a buff

tranquil plume
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cuz that ability only benefit swords and guns

green carbon
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but gun psykers like it

icy wyvern
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Because cool kids use staves

tranquil plume
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is not compatible with staffs

icy wyvern
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Gun psykers are allowed to sit on the council, but are not granted the rank of master.

tranquil plume
glossy ember
green carbon
glossy ember
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it is

tranquil plume
glossy ember
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i play it daily

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try it again

stuck bridge
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hows surge against the bingus and boopus or whatever their names are

tranquil plume
icy wyvern
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Boodendorf out here with some wacky ass build telling us it slaps

green carbon
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you can play it with staffs or smite/assial spam, but have to be very careful in managing peril

glossy ember
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staregryn it does i promise.....

tranquil plume
glossy ember
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Surge staff

upper blade
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Obviously run and gun is trash, which perk to dump for crit chance (or something else if that makes sense)?

green carbon
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crit surge sounds so much fun, I should really commit to making a proper build for it

glossy ember
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i can post my build

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if you wanna try

tranquil plume
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sure

glossy ember
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it's fun af i promise

tranquil plume
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fun is 1 thing i want builds that actually kills thats what matters to me

stuck bridge
clear zenith
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someone previously shared this (maybe you @glossy ember ?!) I'm always interested in new weird builds ๐Ÿ˜„

tranquil plume
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too often i find the effort i put as psyker dont result in killing stuff then paying for it by going down as a really bad trade

green carbon
glossy ember
tranquil plume
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i'm not new to the game but psyker was my lowest priority to play cuz the trade off of effort and effective power is bad

green carbon
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granted, it was never op in auric

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but

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yeah

rotund fable
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I mostly play psyker because "Haha, funny magic missile"

tranquil plume
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it cant kill past flak armor anyway

green carbon
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rn assail is in kind of a weird spot, where you can almost always run a setup that does everything it can do better

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not to say it's bad

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but is kind of stuck in the middle

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in what it wants to do

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still best for going raw crit though

tranquil plume
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gun psyker got that alchemist / enchanter vibe so here i am especially after testing it in psykarnium with a build i throw together with 0 knowledge , but works far better than things i tried b4

upper blade
rotund fable
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True aim with assail to guarantee surge crits on voidstrike is fun. probably not optimal, but fun.

green carbon
tranquil plume
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the only 1 bad thing for gun psykers is now is a full team with the need for ammo but because gun psyker crit is so good that he has good ammo ecnonomy

willow hazel
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Assail still feels like the clear best blitz, but it's balanced by Psykinetic's Aura being on the other side of the tree

unkempt parcel
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Launch assail come back my beloved

tranquil plume
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sryer's gaze is ur dmg bump , once is over u still benefit for 10 seconds after which u have warp rider that also buff ur dmg cuz u come out of the gaze buff with high peril

green carbon
tranquil plume
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but what i am not clear if warp rider dmg apply to everything or just warp attacks

green carbon
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the neat thing about purgatus is that it doesn't really care for breakpoints

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so you can just go for what seems useful

upper blade
glossy ember
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it's no surge creeping flames though

tranquil plume
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bookmarked

green carbon
tranquil plume
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i'll run it for sure but i gotta build a revolver or a gun that performs with crits

glossy ember
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that's with surge staff

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not a gun

glossy ember
green carbon
tranquil plume
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assail , scryer and surge ... how does ur peril not shoot to 100% in 3 seconds ?

green carbon
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neverending gaze

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local psyker, high as a kite throughout the entire mission

glossy ember
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just quell bro

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assail spam is pretty easy to manage

tranquil plume
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yeah u would spend most time just to quell after 1 or 2 surge charged shot

green carbon
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yeh I mean I played a bit of gaze assail

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though not with siphon

tranquil plume
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do u use the lightning fry for surge staff with gaze on ?

green carbon
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on talent patch release I just made three builds for every class, focusing entirely for right, middle and left tree

glossy ember
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depends on the enemy line up

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lemme find a good clip

static needle
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Does 15 stacks of DD actually give more dmg than warp siphon?

glossy ember
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coulda started like 3 seconds in scrier with 4 warp stacks lol

green carbon
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if not, it's about equal I think?

glossy ember
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when you reach 25 stacks it's like one or two rmb then you gotta quell but at this point each rmb can crit for 1.5-2k so

green carbon
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so it really depends on your build

static needle
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psykinetics aura can do the same job tho

green carbon
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I mean yeah, but the aura is 10%, with base siphon maxing at 4 stacks, that's immediate 30% of your ability CD back

glossy ember
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my last histg for ref, as you can see lower numbers than creeping flames build but still nice

quartz barn
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black winged one with the red eyes

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can check the name in a bit

static needle
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Do I remove last warp talents or perilous combustion?

green carbon
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afaik any mask that isn't just cloth changes voice?

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don't quote me on that though

quartz barn
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yes

quasi junco
quartz barn
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i have this one and it does

static needle
quartz barn
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also yes

quasi junco
quartz barn
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have that one too :/

static needle
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this match changes it, yes

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ugh damn

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how tf am i gonna manage peril

quartz barn
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black one does, gold one doesnt

quasi junco
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disrupt destiny is great on voidstrike crit builds

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you can use shriek to help manage peril

quartz barn
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dont know about that one

green carbon
static needle
quartz barn
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dont know about that one either

quasi junco
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i have one similar and it does change voice

green carbon
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but not necessary at all

quartz barn
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only reason i knew the black helm changes voice was because i saw it in a yt vid where the guy happened to use the helm

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but ye a symbol to notify of extra effects would be nice

tranquil plume
glossy ember
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ovenproof

tranquil plume
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thx sibling

mint pivot
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Is that a fucking statue of Malcador on the ship?!

tulip trench
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are the smite subperks worth grabbing?

spiral condor
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I like to grab the smite spread

willow hazel
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did they ever fix the enfeeble bug with right click?

willow hazel
teal needle
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What are people running for damnation twins? I'm enjoying BB/vent/deimos/trauma but wondering what people are liking

untold widget
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knife laspistol

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play it like the back alley shanking it is

harsh urchin
mighty olive
tiny barn
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does the purgatorus staff apply soulblaze?

mighty olive
tiny barn
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ty

frozen osprey
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it does not i have it

quasi junco
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any1 here clear hardmode twins with randos?

tawdry pasture
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psykers, i need an assist to cheese the shoot fast penance

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somebody drop a method

ornate hamlet
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Which one is that?

raw token
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shoulda done it before assail nerf

tawdry pasture
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25 dogs, trappers, or mutants without them grabbing you or a teammate

raw token
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nvm

tawdry pasture
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using BB

raw token
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lol wrong one

tawdry pasture
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my current cheese idea was:

private game separate, sit by door with BB

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it sends one of those every 30 seconds or something

tough trench
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do i buy? giga trash perks and at least 1 bad blessing

static needle
neat summit
tough trench
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at the very least, its t4 so i can scoop it up

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i think imma buy

tawdry pasture
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the coolest psyker fit is locked behind this sisyphean task

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why god, why

ornate hamlet
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I think you don't need to do it all in one match

mental rock
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It's really not that difficult. Play hunting grounds, precharge bb when you hear them coming. They don't need to be all in one match

tawdry pasture
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oh nice, so its just not letting anyone get hit

green carbon
frozen osprey
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It does go well with the 21st recon set tho i like using it for that

green carbon
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is it?

static needle
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turn off brain and less peril management

frozen osprey
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IT DOES? I thought it didnt

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Wowee

green carbon
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but

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you do you chief

glossy ember
subtle swift
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a second or two in combat sometimes can mean life or death

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but yeah normally quell is fine at 60%

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its the dump stat

strong gulch
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No thanks Brunt.

green carbon
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lmao

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Thanks Brunt, very cool.

green carbon
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with some degree of subjectivity based on situation of course

subtle swift
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yeah

static needle
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Is catachan 3 knife good on psyker?

green carbon
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the shank? yeah it's pretty good

static needle
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can it do anything at all better than DS4 besides movement speed?

glossy ember
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mobility

static needle
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lol

glossy ember
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oh

ornate hamlet
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me when the

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Honestly, knife on psyker is something I can't personally recommend

blissful solar
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why wouldnt you just use the blaze force

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then you can charge your own peril up when needed and attack them with some of the strongest stabs ever

green carbon
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more mobility

static needle
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how about the horde clear front

whole oxide
static needle
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can lacerate + some other blessing be noticably superior at horde clear?

glossy ember
blissful solar
glossy ember
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but can hold its own

green carbon
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and with psyker's high stamina regen and low stamina regen delay you can spam push attacks which have the same damage profile as heavies iirc

green carbon
whole oxide
blissful solar
blissful solar
whole oxide
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right, yeah, deimos is powerful stabs, I just don't ever hear anyone referring to the deimos as "blaze"

blissful solar
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it's good at horde clearing too because it has fast slashing attacks

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i referred to it as its broad category because i dont care about the others, my bad

sand ivy
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any new updated ways of completing "Cliffhanger" penance with psyker?

(Besides Chasm Logistratum initial area)

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with the force sword spam push-block

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i thought the overwatch penance was a pain - this one is just straight up annoying

plucky flax
lime creek
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what blessingss and perks should I get on chainsword? and which chainsword

harsh urchin
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Psyker gets better weapon options than chs

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I would use it on vet or zea with certain guns

lime creek
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what options?

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I run lightning staff and assail

harsh urchin
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Fs, ds, claw, knife

lime creek
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which force sword

harsh urchin
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Depends on what you need it to do

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Are you killing crushers with it, horde clearing, defending against ragers

lime creek
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horde clearing

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wait wait, crushers

harsh urchin
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Deimos or ds4 are ok at horde clear and excellent for crushers

graceful aurora
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What do ya'll use on monstrosities? My assail and voidstrike do very little so I've resorted to carrying a chain sword

harsh urchin
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Just need to hit head

lime creek
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alright thanks

stoic badge
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For the purposes of Soulstealer, do force staff attacks count as warp attacks, and does this mean purgatus staffs become infinite toughness generators?

glossy ember
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well so long as it kills

lime creek
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so even the nwe chainsword ain't good?

digital narwhal
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Youโ€™re better off using Soulstealer with Illisi Force Sword, Voidstrike Staff, Trauma Staff, or Assail

gaunt wagon
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Rapier mk 4 is good for big enemies if you want to try that

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But make sure to get rending on it

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Crit is also kinda crazy on it if your lucky

graceful aurora
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Do assail kills count as ranged? My weekly contract tracking seems in consistant

gaunt wagon
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I completed the hard mode twins with blaze crit trauma and mk4 dueling sword

west thorn
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The whole team contributes to your contracts so it's not just your ranged kills

idle bay
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I saw a coordinated hardmode 4 ogryn kill of twins in like 7 minutes for whole fight. They literaly wiped floor with twin bosses.

heavy wigeon
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Yeah, gunlugger Ogryn is pretty busted.

idle bay
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Ogryns together - strong!

graceful aurora
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PSA: purgatus does not work for twins lol. Or I'm really bad

graceful aurora
kindred ivy
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smite >>> anything else

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legit

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stun the entire field for your team

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no rager, crusher, shotgunner, or anything else

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willever be a problem

icy wyvern
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bold words for someone in brain bursting distance

quasi junco
graceful aurora
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yeah brain burst seems way better now. I'm only using it in my purgatus/smite build but I can't really make it work.

graceful aurora
west thorn
kindred ivy
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smite and revovler

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and MK4 toothpick

marble pebble
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i use the uh

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dueling sword

graceful aurora
marble pebble
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i dunno

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im just using it for fun

left dagger
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18% warp resistance hmm

green carbon
limber dune
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Hi ๐Ÿ™‚ looking for help, pls help me to kill monster on heresy dealing 90% damage by brain burst

green carbon
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who cares you'll have a beast of nurgle malform from your flesh

left dagger
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maximum zap maximum voices

green carbon
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depending on your server

limber dune
graceful aurora
marble pebble
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this is the sword im using

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its a weak one for now since im not level 30

green carbon
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for sub-30 looks decent

graceful aurora
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what counts as a "sucessful dodge?"

green carbon
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when you hear a whoosh

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as you dodge

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signifying you dodged an attack

marble pebble
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this baby right here tho

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mm

green carbon
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noice

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๐Ÿซฆ

marble pebble
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think i will upgrade this one

green carbon
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just hope for a good blessing, cause those perks ain't the best

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xD

marble pebble
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gonna reroll the damage agaisnt groaners

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but i feel like the elite damage is nice

green carbon
marble pebble
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which ones are the 25% ?

green carbon
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flak/carapace/unarmoured/unyielding/maniacs

spice veldt
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if it lets you hit one-shot breakpoints, then +10% is good nuff

green carbon
spice veldt
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something that you'll have to annoyingly test though

green carbon
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but I can't be bothered to calculate breakpoints

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so

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beeg numba good numba

spice veldt
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p much

green carbon
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xD

marble pebble
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flak maniac seems to be the best combo ?

green carbon
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in general yeah

marble pebble
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im mainly pulling it out to shoot a rager or specialist in the head

green carbon
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flak maniac are usually the best ones

marble pebble
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i just love being able to put down a rager before he ah

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turns me into mince meat

green carbon
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devil claw sword :^)

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parry the world

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jokes aside, yeah

marble pebble
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i uh

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im bad at that

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xd

green carbon
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I mean the parry window is pretty generous, but nah, at least in high end content there's multiple rangers on your behind, no way you can parry all that

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trust me, I tried xD

marble pebble
marble pebble
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that does look epic

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well until it comes to a real game where also 30 different disablers come pay you a visit

green carbon
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xD

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shush

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let a witch dream

graceful aurora
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I think damage resistance from snipers on curio is kinda worthless cause they just one hit us anyway?

clear heath
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every time i feel like trying out devils claw, some psyker goes smite and i don't get a chance to parry anything

next mist
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I LOVE CRIT PSYKER!!! I LOVE FORGOING BORINGASS SMITE AND ASSAIL AND DOING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DAMAGE AND RUNNING AT MACH 7 CONSTANTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ignore damage taken

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that happens when ur busy killing half of the enemies on the stage.................................................. teehee..........

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this is my favorite part of crit psyker

clear heath
# graceful aurora I think damage resistance from snipers on curio is kinda worthless cause they ju...

They don't actually one shot you.
I think their damage to hp was like 122.5.
Also with 1 20% sniper res curio, a 21% max hp curio, and that 10% hp node in our tree above warp rider that everyone always takes, i can survive 2 shots
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1169630718612213800/sniper_breakpoint.mp4?ex=655f54fe&is=654cdffe&hm=1ded41395bec915eaaca0fbb12645e5bd1b33813421ab3ecffff89d950cff7ee&

next mist
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counterpoint: when are you going to take TWO sniper shots

clear heath
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so when some stealth zealot fucker revives me while my body is getting shot by a sniper, i don't instantly die on wakeup

clear heath
vast yew
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Just did a match with a guy who had a 45% Damage Deimos with Blazing Spirit

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0_o

green carbon
# next mist

counterpoint: blaze sword with the ranged block blessing

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:^)

bitter pelican
next mist
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does that 100% block sniper shots

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unfortunately i'd have to use a force sword for tht.........

green carbon
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xD

clear heath
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I got mad tilted when i was grabbing a medicae station at 1 wound and got sniped during it and died
And then i did the math and the difference between a 20% curio and a 21% curio would have saved me

spice veldt
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deflector does not block sniper shots unless they changed that

green carbon
next mist
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i kinda just take 60% gunner resist cause im SICK of those mfs

bitter pelican
spice veldt
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o

bitter pelican
marble pebble
green carbon
marble pebble
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the people i play with

green carbon
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which dmg reduction does not help with

next mist
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fair

spice veldt
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i like my gunner res esp since the other curio perks options are whatevs

clear heath
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yeah i like gunner res too

next mist
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my sniper experience is getting shot once when dealing with a horde but by the time i get rezzed people have killed the sniper

clear heath
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i got 2x gunner res 1x sniper res

next mist
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usually get to health before another one causes problems

bitter pelican
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gunner res works on reapers!

marble pebble
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me observing the veteran running out of my shield bubble

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to facetank the 3 snipers

bitter pelican
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tell your mom

next mist
green carbon
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I'll be real, I just don't run any dmg resist KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
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gunners do constitute a lot of the ranged damage you'll take since you'll just get shot right after your I-frames when their volley is still up

green carbon
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skill issue

bitter pelican
next mist
clear heath
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so has anyone actually switched to bomber res after the changes?

bitter pelican
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why?

vast yew
bitter pelican
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bomber res does not block the fire damage you take.

spice veldt
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did they bug it out again?

bitter pelican
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it has never blocked fire damage.

spice veldt
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yes it has

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it was fixed a while ago

next mist
bitter pelican
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was it?

spice veldt
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it was fixed some time before patch 13

bitter pelican
next mist
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๐Ÿ’€

bitter pelican
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like the physical hit from the bomb

clear heath
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Making the curio perks more viable was kinda the point of the change

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if it doesn't work on the fire, fatshark fucked up again

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which i guess is nothing new

next mist
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it would be real nice if there was a rager resistance perk...

green carbon
spice veldt
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unless they bugged it out with the recent fire damage changes, it should work

clear heath
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I guess i could test it

spice veldt
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woohoo

green carbon
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:^)

next mist
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but im melee psyker D:

green carbon
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what happens when I get cornered?

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uuuuh

ornate hamlet
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Okay siblings, hear me out...

green carbon
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let's not talk about that

green carbon
next mist
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im happy with my like nigh perfect sword

spice veldt
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the consequences of grave positioning errors leading me to get owned by a rager group

bitter pelican
spice veldt
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it wasnt in the patch notes

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they stealth-patched it

next mist
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i'd replaced riposte with chained hit crit but

green carbon
bitter pelican
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If you can find something to prove me to the contrary, I believe that they still just block kicks

spice veldt
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you can search the discord for people testing it and seeing that it works

ornate hamlet
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Okay, so I use this as a utility weapon. My primary is a flamestaff for greater horde control. I use brainbursts for ogryns and bosses with vent scream.

bitter pelican
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it wasn't in the patch 14 post notes either

ornate hamlet
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So if there's a horde I can hack and slash for instant peril vanishing

spice veldt
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it wasn't in any patch notes

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it was an unlisted change

ornate hamlet
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and this gives me cover from long range with peril blocking at range.

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and

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can tank bosses

green carbon
ornate hamlet
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I'm a sucker for the classics.

green carbon
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๐Ÿค

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can never go wrong with the classics

ornate hamlet
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So that's how I use this blade to much my success.

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In damnation aurics.

bitter pelican
green carbon
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I feel like people underestimate deflector

bitter pelican
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like here

green carbon
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but maybe that's just my skill issue

ornate hamlet
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If I could rename this sword I would call it "Peril-B-Gone"

bitter pelican
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but im saying if they did something with bombers they wouldn't just stealthily patch it they would've made a big stink about it when they """fixed""" fire.

spice veldt
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no that's absolutely fatshark patch notes

lunar hollow
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absolutely false fs makes TONS of unlisted changes in their patches

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that patch note addition was an outlier

green carbon
spice veldt
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they probably just forgot that they fixed it in the past

clear heath
spice veldt
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and didn't mention it

marble pebble
green carbon
spice veldt
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there was an unlisted change that I forgot that would've made people happy if it were listed

bitter pelican
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does flamer work yet?

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flamer was also broken.

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not able to test stuff atm.

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otherwise would get off my lazy ass and do it myself.

marble pebble
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level 30 psyker finally

spice veldt
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I too am chilling and having json do the testing

lunar hollow
marble pebble
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do any of y'all know if

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the 10% extra damage from smite is still bugged ?

clear heath
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It works on their kick so the curio effect is definitely on, but it's not affecting the fire damage

bitter pelican
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bahahaha good crack

clear heath
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fatshark pls

bitter pelican
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thank you json!

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you're a champ

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I believe dog also does not block against the corruption.

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definitely makes the nibble less damage.

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but corruption is still the same iirc.

bitter pelican
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Like when its pounce brushes by you.

spice veldt
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am not home yet

clear heath
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iirc the way corruption attacks work is that some moves just inflict a % of their damage dealt as corruption

bitter pelican
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oh ok!

lethal sable
#

It feels like my Psyker is a bit too squishy at times. Are there any builds out there for survivability?

bitter pelican
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back in the day they were separate.

clear heath
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for dogs it looks like 100%

bitter pelican
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so it would apply the corruption then do a bit of damage.

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I may be misremembering this.

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But glad the curios are working properly.

green carbon
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you can improve that with curios, but

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only to a point

clear heath
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hmm, maybe it is separate for dogs like you said, but either way the curio works.
Corruption res is also working properly for dogs. It basically reduces the damage they deal

spice veldt
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yeah they deal melee damage and x% of it is converted to corruption

clear heath
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I was expecting some weird jank like losing the hp without getting it corrupted, but no it's actually just less damage in total

spice veldt
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something along the lines of 98% of their bite is turned into corruption iirc

clear heath
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yeah i was expecting to lose the same hp but have less of it corrupted, but it's actually causing the corruption portion of the hit to deal less damage

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wait this means corruption res is effectively a really shitty burster res too

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3 corruption res curios made a burster do 20 less hp damage

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amazing

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could definitely just take a hp perk instead and be better off, but that's interesting

green carbon
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I want to try making a tank psyker one day

quasi junco
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i just had a mutie grab me out of a moving elevator

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luckily the game put me back on

green carbon
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I've had mutants and monstrosities throw me outside the map in several occasions

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xD

clear heath
#

yeah same

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i've had one pull me into the spawn doors too with no way to escape

marble pebble
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i just had a mutie throw me onto a rooftop

clear heath
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I look like a toy in the mutant's hand

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holding a big action figure

marble pebble
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darktide action figures

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get yours today

umbral helm
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I could see an Ogryn playing with action figures on the ship loading into a mission

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just holding a little Space Marine one in one hand, Ork one in the other, clacking them together and making little "skoosh" and "boom" noises

green carbon
#

man

marble pebble
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they couldn't make the veteran action figure though

green carbon
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I'm here trying to somewhat silence my "urge to purge" cause I can't play darktide today

marble pebble
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he was too far away in the map

green carbon
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oh yeah, do any of you guys know if the special assignment is time limited?

marble pebble
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not sure but i would guess so

umbral helm
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not sure, but I doubt the node for it is going away either way

green carbon
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so we don't have an exact time frame if it is time limited

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I'm just glad the end is not in sight, so I still have time to try earn the funny thingy for beating it

spice veldt
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I think at the very worst they'll make it a normal mission

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maybe the special assignment thingy is just for the insignia reward

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oh oops

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I didn't read fully

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yeah hopefully they don't just pull it out suddenly

umbral helm
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I just see them using this special assignment thing for future content, whether they keep the old ones in it or not

green carbon
#

I have heard it's super hard on the bell mode

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:d

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looking forward to finding out the hard way

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only did a couple rounds on heresy cause that was with a low lvl friend

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by couple I mean two

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we didn't win

vast yew
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hard mode is rough

clear heath
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yeah it took a while for me

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a lot of attempts

umbral helm
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it requires cohesion mostly. your build has to be up to snuff obviously but it's mostly hard because this time people have to work together, and that's a concept people aren't familiar with unsurprisingly

green carbon
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would probably be a good idea to do an lfg here for it, huh

marble pebble
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two guys helped me get it yesterday

green carbon
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noice

vast yew
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I tried a few times in a PUG then decided to finish my contracts before trying it again

clear heath
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hardmode with pugs sounds horrible

vast yew
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playtime's a bit limited this weekend so need to get my melkbucks

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yeah my plan is to LFG here next time

clear heath
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I ended up doing it with a group of friends

vast yew
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my friends play on Malice and are scared to move to Heresy

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๐Ÿ™‚

green carbon
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I remember when I was scared to move to damnation

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those were the days

clear heath
#

yeah same

ornate hamlet
green carbon
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lmao

clear heath
#

me and my whole friend group used to be malice players too

plucky flax
vast yew
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Don't worry some of them have 300+ hours in VT2

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they still play Champion

wanton sandal
green carbon
clear heath
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We eased into higher diffs by playing some pretty braindead builds back in the day

wanton sandal
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ig you can get lucky and get both competent pugs and a good balanced team

green carbon
plucky flax
vast yew
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The main problem is they haven't quite figured out how to use blocks/dodges/pushes/push attacks so they just EAT melee hits left and right

mental rock
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Who said you need a balanced team? QUAD OGRYN

wanton sandal
green carbon
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has happened more than I'd like to admit

clear heath
green carbon
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such a big change from VT2 lmao

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took me a while to realize

mental rock
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I'm pretty sure blocking in vt2 is still 360

green carbon
#

yeah but it's kinda weird with how efficient it is

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based on your angle

clear heath
#

wasn't block radius a stat in vt2?

green carbon
#

it is

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I'll admit, I still don't fully understand it

clear heath
#

I don't really remember much. Didn't really play it very long

strong gulch
ornate hamlet
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You have a zone for weaker blocking and another for stronger blocking

vast yew
vast yew
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learned the hardway you can't do that lol

ornate hamlet
#

Once

green carbon
#

and yes

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quadgryn gaming

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xD

umbral helm
#

we all brought slab shield into that mission

green carbon
#

though I always will be a mage main

umbral helm
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we did it for a few games

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it was silly

green carbon
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whether it's sienna or psyker

umbral helm
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caster is my preferred way to play, if possible

green carbon
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but ROCK.

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yeh

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I like to play backline mages and supports

vast yew
#

Darktide Maulers bulked up

green carbon
#

although I won't deny, crackhead melee is also fun

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there is a reason zealot is my second most played

umbral helm
#

it kind of always was, but then I played Dragon's Dogma sorcerer and it kinda just solidified it. summoning meteors from the sky or a tornado, you just can't go back

green carbon
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For me mage/support is more just that I enjoy playing the "weird" class

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the gimmicky stuff

umbral helm
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sorcerer was kinda gimmicky, in that game. you could deal the most damage potentially but all your spells took ages to cast. the meteor spell for example the entire time you were channeling it you'd slowly float up and summon them one by one, preparing to send them down and it took forever

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so, better have good positioning or trust your pawns to protect you from just getting smacked out of it

green carbon
ornate hamlet
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I enjoy magic classes when they don't root me for 2 seconds on every cast or some bullshit like that

umbral helm
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you could move for a lot of them, you'd just move slower because you were channeling, and it was mostly the cast time

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it was honestly balanced for what it was. if you could cast them quickly it'd trivialize a lot of the game, because those spells hit hard

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they did a good job of making you feel that impact

arctic nimbus
#

There a go to build for the twins hard mode? Surge staff feels underwhelming in this mission

vast yew
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Several people here have done it with a typical Voidstrike/Smite/Dome setup

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Your main job as Pysker is to deal with all the Elites that spawn in

marble pebble
#

when you can run into the overhead

green carbon
# marble pebble why dodge the crusher

Well, when I'm saying "dodge" here, it's me seeing a crusher throwing an overhead at me, and stealthing thinking it'll either make him stop or make me invulnerable

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(it does neither)

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:D

umbral helm
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crusher made sure it was still your problem

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friend of mine that plays stealth a lot loves to put it that way. is that a lot of shit about to kill you? well, it ain't your problem anymore, it's someone elses

clear heath
#

Can relate
I've been netted from trying to stealth a trapper

umbral helm
#

"cant catch what you can't se- wait, no what's happening"

primal plume
#

I feel blazing spirit and warp nexus is the best combo for trauma

vast yew
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you would be correct

primal plume
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it solves the usual issue trauma has with spreading weak enemeis all over the place. the fire finishes them off

vast yew
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it also sets fire to entire rooms at once

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8.4m radius AoE is no joke

long zodiac
#

siblings

vast yew
long zodiac
#

Whenever

vast yew
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it'll probably work OK now to be fair

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but it'll perform worse than a columnus

green carbon
#

to be fair

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columnus?

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lowkey kinda busted

vast yew
#

yeah

ornate hamlet
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Oooh, just got this. Hell to the yeah.

hot zephyr
#

Can confirm. I rolled up a columnus two days ago and it slaps like nurgle owes it money

green carbon
#

quell could've been a little higher, but otherwise

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๐Ÿซฆ

pale pilot
#

the most annoying thing about beating the twins on damnation on the regular mode is seeing the melk challenge "complete a mission without a player dying" pop up as complete while we walk away

ornate hamlet
#

Tetra, can offset with the perk with faster quelling

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er not perk

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but talent.

green carbon
#

that's fair

vast yew
#

Quell speed scales nonlinearly so higher QS is better than it seems

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but it shouldn't give you too much trouble

green carbon
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I just don't really upgrade weapons below like, 355

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xD

ornate hamlet
#

And since I use the left side of the tree nearly exclusively,

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I'm covered.

green carbon
#

based left side enjoyer

ornate hamlet
#

We've spoken before.

green carbon
#

though I run left with purgatus pure soulblaze build

primal plume
green carbon
#

yeyeye

hot zephyr
ornate hamlet
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That's what I figured.

green carbon
vast yew
#

also I'm pretty sure with a 32 that staff has a negative quell speed modifier

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so techincally faster to quell w/ Blitz

ornate hamlet
#

Because AFAIK there isn't really a passive Quell. (not in the scale of our active, anyway)

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That is to say, I don't consider passive quell an actual "Quell" per se.

primal plume
ornate hamlet
# primal plume

A wise man once said: "dead men do tell tales, and most of them involve your mom"

vast yew
#

You don't but the Quell Speed stat on staves and force swords does affect the passive quell IIRC

ornate hamlet
#

Wasn't aware of that.

green carbon
vast yew
#

it also scales like crazy

hot zephyr
vast yew
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0 Quell speed = -33%
50 Quell speed = 0%
80 Quell Speed = +43%
100 Quell Speed (theoretical) = +100%

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like wtf is that scaling Fatshark

ornate hamlet
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It's really a non-issue for me as I said, I have this.... If I need to dump quell, one heavy attack when surrounded drops me to 50% quell from 100 in one swing.

green carbon
#

:^)

ornate hamlet
green carbon
#

in like 2 years

vast yew
hot zephyr
rustic hare
#

Any general tips/tricks for surviving against the twins? I feel like every psyker build I try gets chewed up

vast yew
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Charge Rate will go from 1.3 seconds to 1.0, Blast Radius goes from 8.4m to 10m (a 40% increase in AoE), Quell speed goes from 1.4 to 2.0 (almost 50% faster)

green carbon
ornate hamlet
vast yew
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DS4 will absolutely SHRED the Ranged Twin's shield

ornate hamlet
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Yes it does.

vast yew
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and then deal decent damage once it's broke

ornate hamlet
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And dont sit in the gas.

vast yew
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but as Psyker your main job is to deal with all the adds

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since you're the best at it

rustic hare
graceful aurora
green carbon
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same tbh xD

vast yew
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keep the adds down, run through grenades to clear them out, and if you get a chance then you poke the Ranged twin

rustic hare
vast yew
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if the melee twin aggros you Flame the shield ogryn in chat for being bad at the game just hold block and dodge until she gets bored and attacks someone else

ornate hamlet
vast yew
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melee twin is almost laughably easy to avoid damage from

ornate hamlet
green carbon
vast yew
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Chaos spawns are decently annoying because their animations move their head all over the freaking place

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makes it hard to stunlock them with Voidstrike

ornate hamlet
hot zephyr
hot zephyr
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three different builds all combined to captain warp

green carbon
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lmao

vast yew
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Yeah the twins are kinda whatever; Ranged twin is worse because she knocks you out of revives and spams poison everywhere

green carbon
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captain warp

vast yew
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but if you keep moving neither of them really do much to you

ornate hamlet
vast yew
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the 73 Crushers they spawn, however

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those guys are here to crush rejects and chew bubble gum, and they're all out of bubble gum

green carbon
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what do they wanna crush me with, those half rotten muscles?

ornate hamlet
vast yew
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just saying in general the Elite adds are what makes the fight hard, not the twins themselves

hot zephyr
green carbon
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mwah

ornate hamlet
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He literally slaps.

green carbon
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or punches

ornate hamlet
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He's what I call the left mouse button build.