psyker-class

[untold niche]

what you mean, i didn't say anything about skill :v

[radiant sleet]

going aggro with assail / EP chain killing feels insanely fun to me when you pull it off and save the team from getting deleted by gunners

[plucky flax]

It's high level trauma tech.

[half iron]

i got cliffhanger during a smite. intended? no. did i want it? yes.

[sour hollow]

Personally much prefer running EP or DD

[sage plaza]

If you can find the espionage one in the library, that helps. I got it on that, and saw it recommended online.

[sour hollow]

Personally missing my double shield to stun mobs rather sorely

[sage plaza]

Revolver and Assail, I mean.

[plucky flax]

Yeah it falls off all at once and it makes me target focus something I perhaps wouldn't. Just not how I want to play.

[sage plaza]

Honestly Warp Battery is part rng, whether you go for soulfire or the group coherence chance.

[spice veldt]

damn got booted out of a game right before the elevator extraction because of an out of memory error

i cri

[sage plaza]

F

[mighty cipher]

L+Money Issue

[violet oak]

team didnt wait for you?

[plucky flax]

If you're right next to it you should still get mission finish.

[violet oak]

Blow up their rations

[plucky flax]

Your game will linger for a bit.

[spice veldt]

i have no trust in them waiting

mostly because I also don't expect them to survive

[plucky flax]

No even if they finish

[mighty cipher]

LMAO

[spice veldt]

i didn't get to the end of scoreboard screen

[sour hollow]

I don't even try bothering soulfire, 25dmg/tick at max is just...pathetic. If it procced off purge staff's flames too, instead of just the death by the debuff? Sure.

[spice veldt]

just went straight to the mourningstar

[sour hollow]

I'd probably be done with it, but it doesn't.

[vagrant frigate]

i like the new speed stim

[sage plaza]

Still wondering about this, btw.

[plucky flax]

That's fine. I've crashed just before the lift and got rewards and weapon.

[mighty cipher]

It does though?

[plucky flax]

Just boot up and check.

[mighty cipher]

I can tell you that from personal experience

[untold niche]

i don't get assail, i shoot it at the mauler and it does like

like hair damage

[radiant sleet]

just try out the build Selfish and I posted and see for yourself if you enjoy it. To me its the peak build this game offers but if its not for you it aint the end of the world. Plenty of options in this game.

[sour hollow]

It didn't at all when I was testing it last night, only debuff kills

[radiant sleet]

do not shoot at mauler use void headshot for that one

[spice veldt]

enjoy this damage taken scoreboard

[mighty cipher]

I’m telling you from experience the staff fire itself gives you warp charges

[spice veldt]

assail does peepee poopoo damage to carapace

[half iron]

assail more like ass fail aye yo gottem

[untold niche]

how many targets can assail pierce? seems like gunners is 3 but poxywalkers quite abit

[vagrant frigate]

arco

im fast

[sacred crane]

Smite my belove

[mighty cipher]

Three hits with the upgrade

2 default

[spice veldt]

2 targets default, 3 with ethereal shards

[vagrant frigate]

very fast

[sour hollow]

Mmh. Might try it again then if that's really the case, 10% is better than the meme tier 4%.

[plucky flax]

Assail is chill man give our 2s cd back

[sour hollow]

Really should be 20%/12% on them.

[radiant sleet]

also just so you know pretty purple assail = crit

[mighty cipher]

I think it’s fine as it is

[untold niche]

wait what

[radiant sleet]

TRUE gimme more purple shards

[untold niche]

i klill 5 zomvie with one assail shoot

[sacred crane]

I use assail or smite so I can just turn my brain off

[mighty cipher]

On higher diffs you get charges almost constantly if your burning hordes to the ground

[radiant sleet]

yeah it can pierce through more than 3 poxies

[plucky flax]

Old patch 13 assail with handcannon. Best build ever.

[untold niche]

what difference ebtween left lick and right click

[plucky flax]

Just assail left click and win

[sour hollow]

Left click is kinda RNG, right click is 'will hit what you want'

Difference between 'eh get rid of all that' and 'screw that thing in particular'

[mighty cipher]

Default shot tracks based on your crosshair

[radiant sleet]

right click assail is the bane of every sniper you will encounter

unless you get a giga void shot

[untold niche]

why sometime assail headshot (orange text) sometime it doesn

t

also assail regen time so long

like one century

[sour hollow]

Get the 30% regen buff, and it's not bad.

[radiant sleet]

yah gotta void/melee in between it aint a third weapon these days

[plucky flax]

Take both assail sub talents.

[untold niche]

i do

i copied alch build

alch's

[sour hollow]

you wanna talk reload times, reload a plasma gun kek

[plucky flax]

Go melee for a bit while it recharges then back to assail.

[tame venture]

Imo asshail is boring. It's a useful 3rd weapon but I'd rather use something fun

[half iron]

plasma gun fans when they

[half iron]

omg so true

[plucky flax]

Plasma is stronger than voidstrike still.

The big cleave.

[tame venture]

Also id rather use the point for shard recharge on something cooler

[frigid olive]

I'm still looking for what I find fun-

[tame venture]

Gunker

[radiant sleet]

nah assail is fun AF IMO best magic missile I have played in a game

[tame venture]

Knife crackhead

[radiant sleet]

but to each their own

[tame venture]

Lightning+lightning build

[half iron]

assail fans when i put them in the corpse starch factory

[sour hollow]

I like all them personally. I just wish BR didn't feel so...weird/clunky.

[frigid olive]

I mean I'm going gunker but instead of guns I use a staff cuz the funny

[sour hollow]

But it does the big head crunchies, so I can forgive it

[half iron]

isn’t that jist psyker

[violet oak]

Real psykers explode like a grenade the moment they see a pox walker

[tame venture]

Honestly I always call it "brain burst" Rather than "brain rupture"
BB is an easier abbreviation anyway

[half iron]

plasma gun users want to be like us but can’t

[frigid olive]

staff scrier is what I meant

[tame venture]

Psykers 🤝 plasma gunners
"Whoops I exploded"

[half iron]

staff scrier is peak if you use the bonk

[violet oak]

"Whoops i exploded"? no no no

I am the grenade

[radiant sleet]

I will die for assail before I die for the Emperor

[strong gulch]

The new revolver is kinda fun for taking down packs of elites; especially with PC.

But dang is it an ammo dump.

[sour hollow]

Honestly it'd be nice if you right click charge BB, you can just chain a few instantly. Risk/reward if you click too many times, kablewy.

[spice veldt]

whether assail hits a head or not is pretty much random

[tame venture]

Heresy

[violet oak]

I will EDGE my peril 24/7 and the moment i see a zombie its going to see the sun

[half iron]

i need the new revolver🥺

[spice veldt]

it doesn't have a guaranteed headshot

[orchid nest]

@violet oak @sour hollow alright they do seem to come long enough at the dropship but sometimes the waves were interrupted by a few bruisers which may ruin it. but I was only getting 1 at a time and i've had them spawn in pairs before. the end event instead of by the dropship is probably more reliable

[radiant sleet]

Praise Nurgle ❤️

[spice veldt]

assail has a long regen time, but that's because it regenerates in the background
you can go do other stuff while you wait

[frigid olive]

bonk?

[violet oak]

Emperor bless your sciences sibling

[sour hollow]

Bless your science, sibling. This is good to know.

[tame venture]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-gif-23199856

[half iron]

the weapon action button

[untold niche]

@plucky flax im watching your video and i don't get your decision making
start of the game why you void the gunner instead of assail? because no EP?

seems quite random when you decide to assail vs void

[radiant sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-warhammer-chaos-gif-20220216

[frigid olive]

alternatively scriers with knife weapon action-

[untold niche]

also whats the mod that let you see how much you charged your staff

[radiant sleet]

void is good in a lot of situations, there is not really an exact flowchart to the build/playstyle you kinda have to feel it out

[sour hollow]

Yeah. You usually wanna keep 4-5 assail charges ready to pop off at any given time too.

For those 'welp this is happening now' moments

[radiant sleet]

very true especially for hunting grounds

you want a couple shards for them doggos

[plucky flax]

They were kinda far away no? Assail is a bit wonky at long range.

[radiant sleet]

yeah for very far distance void is more accurate

I think assail right click max range is 63m or something?

[plucky flax]

Just play how you like as long as you win and get plasteels

[spice veldt]

50m last time i tested it in like patch 13

[plucky flax]

If you win and like dd over ep go for it.

[untold niche]

i see so its mainly a range thing?

[plucky flax]

And how spread out stuff are.

[untold niche]

im only barely managing in damnation :v

[spice veldt]

assail shards last for x seconds after being thrown

[untold niche]

u saw my stats before

[spice veldt]

so the farther away they are, the less time you have to drag the shards over enemies to get the most out of them

[untold niche]

OHHH

[plucky flax]

Also assail ammo, situation. Too many things and it's also in the moment kind of thing.

[sour hollow]

BB is good for the long ranges. Smite at close ranges. Assail around mid.

[plucky flax]

I'd play a lot of stuff different when I rewatch my gameplay. Even very successful clutches. Its all a learning curve.

[mighty cipher]

BB is good for that bitch, smite is good for keeping bitches away from me, assail is good for those bitches.

[sour hollow]

Exactly.

[primal plume]

wtf

which staff?

[sour hollow]

I'd say left, just from the better perk combo

Don't really need more damage on maniacs, just a quick stab with dueling sword.

[oak bluff]

Rate my saber?

[radiant sleet]

I also think left, better quell/charge/crit too

[untold niche]

this might sound weird.
i changed my blitz keybind to "3"
now i can't use blitz from melee

[strong gulch]

Test them in the meat grinder to see which hits your preferred break points. Both are good. Left has better stat distribution.

Personally I'm favoring mutant damage.

[radiant sleet]

IMO binding stuff on 1 2 and 3 is bad, I use QWES movement with C V B for melee, range and blitz so I can swap between everything with my thumb while moving. Mouse button to quell and slide

[strong gulch]

Fantastic. I'd swap flak to maniac for mutant and rager stabbing.

[radiant sleet]

I might sound like a psycho with those keybinds but I swear by them

[potent echo]

im super used to 1,2,3 so i always use them

[oak bluff]

True true, frankly i don't have trouble with Mutants, heavy stab one shots em if I angle it right

ragers tho

oof

[radiant sleet]

yeah whatever you are comfortable with works best

[untold niche]

i see

[sour hollow]

I was about to say you sound crazy, sibling. Yet, we all are.

[hearty sinew]

What to change on this gun?

[strong gulch]

I have my blitz bound to mouse scroll down. 😂

[potent echo]

also, QWES movement

[sour hollow]

I just throw grenade/power on Q, old quake habit.

[radiant sleet]

It is God tier once you get used to it

[potent echo]

im a WASD normie

[oak bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/transcend-gif-22175938

[sour hollow]

I have short fat dwarven hands, so wasd works over qwes for me.

[untold niche]

which one is backwards/

[plucky flax]

Mfw when the autospex scanner is on number 5 instead of 4 now.

[strong gulch]

yip

[half iron]

weaklings. i use a mouse with 12 side buttons and do all of my moves on there

[half iron]

also so true😢

[radiant sleet]

S for backstep. You can also just use WASD if you prefer, but I do recommend using mouse buttons and other binds you can easily click while movin and groovin around

[plucky flax]

I like the green stim the best. It's nurgle blessed.

[strong gulch]

Ah yes. Very clear. Who needed to know the lower and higher caps?? Nobody apparently.

[spice veldt]

i had to put the stimms on my B key 😔

[spice veldt]

intuit it through the morphogenetic field

[strong gulch]

Good point

[radiant sleet]

CAN I GET A PRAISE GRANDPA IN CHAT

[plucky flax]

I actually enjoy stimming other players.

https://tenor.com/view/disneytoons-movies-disney-toons-cartoons-gif-14670267254775627272

(When they don't need it)

[sour hollow]

smh, no love for the Serpent.

[radiant sleet]

I am going to enjoy CDR stimming my Chorus Zealot friend because he runs the damage node, more numbers for me

I even convinced him to take the crit bonus on peity for even more numbers

5 percent crit is 5 percent crit

[proud frost]

would executor or uncanny strike be better for a crowd clear illisi?

[spice veldt]

executor, if you have to choose between the two

rending doesn't affect unarmoured and infested

[potent echo]

i heard about an executor fix?

[plucky flax]

Slaughterer is all you need.

[proud frost]

yeah but theres a second slot

[potent echo]

anyone put stims on `

[plucky flax]

Shred or bloodthirsty is not bad for horde clear also.

[potent echo]

shred has some synergy with empathic evasion too

[proud frost]

hmm

good point

[spice veldt]

i had a fun time jabbing a concentration stimm and spammin shout ults on vet in combination with the CDR on special kill

[sour hollow]

Personally like pairing uncanny strikes with things. I don't feel like you need two perks specifically for the horde crowd, so having the extra punch on armor is pretty snazzy.

[proud frost]

i'll probably go for that and slaughterer

[radiant sleet]

thank you that is good to know because I also know a shout veteran lol, this will be fun

[proud frost]

if i get to armor i usually try to swap to BB or my staff

well, not the armored trashmobs

[half iron]

second run of the new map, i had a vet pocketstimming a knife zealot

[sour hollow]

Fair, I'm just used to running duelling I suppose.

[proud frost]

but anything tough enough to need more than two or three swings just gets shot

for that matter. staves.
i havent run into one with it yet, so how does Surge work?

[spice veldt]

here's a clip of me with 3 overshield buffs for a moment https://streamable.com/qy7srk

[proud frost]

is it two at once? is it one after the other in a double tap?

[sour hollow]

It works like Smite, but one to three targets and actually does damage

[proud frost]

i meant the blessing

[sour hollow]

Oh, oop.

[orchid shadow]

How? Why? Why do your graphics look like that??

[proud frost]

i was just about to say

cause like

christ

are you playing on Roblox or something?

[spice veldt]

i refined and churned them like butter (I edited something in user_settings.config to make them look that way)

[orchid shadow]

It looks like a straight up pre-vis animation.

[ornate hamlet]

My homie scaped some runes

[proud frost]

its like you turned everything into plastic

•••

anyway

[proud frost]

anyone know?

[strong gulch]

Surge staff RMB only hits 2 targets. 🥲

[untold niche]

I RAN UP TO THE GUNNER AND HE KEPT SHOOTING ME INSTEAD OF GOING TO MELEE

[proud frost]

im not talking about the surge staff

im talking about the "Surge" blessing

[sour hollow]

Sibling, you aren't supposed to play darktide on a PS2.

[ornate hamlet]

Happens

[proud frost]

this

[spice veldt]

something something bending reality to my will

[ornate hamlet]

how about you bend Josho to your will

[strong gulch]

I saw you were talking about surge blessing. Briar said surge staff hits one to three targets.

[proud frost]

oh

[sour hollow]

They finish firing their salvo before swapping to melee

[proud frost]

sorry

[strong gulch]

np

Arco likes to fight playdough.

[sour hollow]

Yeah, I didn't realize it only hit two. Rip. It looked like it hit 3 sometimes, so wasn't totally sure. I don't run surge staff often, I usually dish out trauma.

[strong gulch]

Arco joy.

[strong gulch]

Different vibes for sure.

[sour hollow]

'cause I love making salsa on the battlefield.

[proud frost]

i just like the rocket launcher void staff

[sour hollow]

Though I'll admit I'm growing fond of the quickdraw stubby.

Major smh they didn't make it a six shooter.

[ornate hamlet]

they're both quickdraw, I think

[strong gulch]

new or old

[sour hollow]

New one

[strong gulch]

gotcha

[sour hollow]

Agripinaa

'cause that brace and damage dump is quite nice.

[proud frost]

the crackling sound it makes when you launch it down a corridor and obliterate the heads of an entire line of trashmobs simply cannot be beat

like bubble wrap

[sudden trellis]

I LOVE TRAUMA STAFF

[vagrant frigate]

mf you're derlin @spice veldt ?

[spice veldt]

ye

[vagrant frigate]

ive seen u around

[spice veldt]

it's a default name though so there are a lot of doppelgangers

[vagrant frigate]

nah u

level mod

[spice veldt]

o

[sour hollow]

Yes, another salsa enjoyer

[spice veldt]

if they were using the columnus/agri IAG, then yeah it's more likely that was me in conjunction with the levels

[sudden trellis]

t-staff is such a goddamn lifesaver, a fucking on-demand grenade. I don't even have the cracked out soulblaze setup, and it just puts in work

[untold niche]

i see people abusing the bot spawn and i don't understand why

[hollow stirrup]

oi spark 'eads, I hope yall are having a great night cause if you're not i'ma give you an ogryn™️ hug

[ionic needle]

Damn, the new level is fire

And also the new fire is fire

[near wyvern]

The new knife is love

So good on psykers

[potent echo]

How do you use it

Is stab punch ever worth it, it's so slow

[ionic needle]

Ooh I should try it. What blessings/perks you got on it?

Damn I kind of miss Siennas dagger now, would be so cool with soulblaze on one of those

[mint pivot]

Can all melee weapons block ranged attacks? Or is it just the force swords that have the skill?

[brazen warren]

on the new knife it is basically your single target charge attack. punch -> head stab

because you cant access stab without doing 2 horizontal charge attacks first otherwise

but on the OG combat knife? not really

[ionic needle]

It's only force swords with deflector blessing

Oh and ogryn shield of course

[brazen warren]

should give us a staff that shoots out a shotgun blast of warp pellets

I know VS alreay kinda does that but

[sly pine]

Hello, did they fix Enfeeble not applying to the Smite right mouse attack or still bugged?

[strong gulch]

Only force swords with the deflector blessing.

[strong gulch]

If you make a love lever video for the new knife, I will def watch it. 👍

Have you tried the deimos special this patch?

[cobalt atlas]

Is it me or you need to look at the target shooting at you with deflector blessings

[near wyvern]

I definitely will make a video with the new knife at near future.

Haven't touched Deimos yet this patch. There wasn't anything in the notes for Force Swords, did something happen to it?

[violet oak]

I hope both sides of your pillow are the exact temperature you want them

[near wyvern]

Light spam for horde clear, heavy spam for moving around and for your first strike, push attack spam for single target DPS. Make sure you run Kinetic Deflection.

Make sure you have +maniac perc on it so your heavies and push attacks one shot flamers. That push attack spam absolutely tears Mutants apart even from behind since it's piss easy to hit their Weakspot with the stab.

For blessings you want uncanny strike and flesh tearer.

For Psykers, the new knife is basically a direct upgrade over the old one since it can both deal better with hordes (cleve lights and heavies) and the push attack spam is much easier to land on a weakspot.

[strong gulch]

Ooh yay. Excited for whenever that drops. No rush.

The change to chain weapon specials that now let's you dodge out of the animation lock also applied to force swords. No more deimos special death trap.

[near wyvern]

🤔 that's interesting. L1H2 will still be the way to dispatch mutants but the special can become usable for maulers and crushers then.

[lethal lagoon]

Yep.

[strong gulch]

yee

[plucky flax]

I got new knife and new revolver but it's on zealot.

It's so cool although revolver is not as good as old one.

[ionic needle]

Did you try the new laspistol yet? Kind of thinking about how it would work out with the new dagger on a scrier build

[untold niche]

9 staffs later and still no surge

[ionic needle]

I accidentally dumped all of my plasteel the night before patch dropped so I haven't been able to test ANYTHING out haha

[near wyvern]

Only brought a white from brunt to test in psych, seems interesting but haven't yet crafted a one which would be fair to use for an actual opinion

[untold niche]

mr pyges why not use the loadout mod

[near wyvern]

Cause I ultimately test stuff in real missions

And that means public quick play

[glossy ember]

any thoughts about executor? it doesn't drop if you whiff now and h1h2 auto hits heads with knoife mk6

[strong gulch]

I've only used it in the meat grinder. Completely different vibe for sure.

The ammo dump has me worried tbh.

[near wyvern]

Have to give it a spin

[glossy ember]

i'm running a 60% damage knife with executor 3 + backstab 4 (lol), 25 maniacs and stamina

it's real good

[near wyvern]

I got a 377 with uncanny 4 for my first roll so I have a really good candidate for testing executor with it😂

The damage roll is a bit lowish on it (68 or something) but it will do

[potent echo]

strangely enough vertical strikes were easier to land headshots with in VT2, i wonder what changed

[near wyvern]

Has +25 carapace locked in and I put +25 maniac on it as well

[potent echo]

are heads just bigger in DT

[near wyvern]

Stab attacks ave better range than vertical swings.

Old knife (mk 3) has vertical swing heavies which have it hard time to find ogryn size enemy heads from the back, often it's impossible. With the new one (mk 6) I can consistently drill through and still find the head through the back side.

[glossy ember]

gaddamn

show me dat knoife

[potent echo]

i also feel like the chest hitbox seem to be wider than the head hitbox

[glossy ember]

unironically sounds like a BIS there to me

also is it just me or is the push wider/stronger than old knife, like just the push not the attack

[near wyvern]

Did take a screenshot of it, it's not that often you get something actually usable on first try at brunt AND hadron

The damage roll is a bit low but can't complain for 10k dockets and 2k Plasteel spent

[glossy ember]

tbh the damage is nutty enough that my 60% dmg knife feels fine

but wow what a roll

[near wyvern]

Yeah the +25 carapace and how easy it is to stab crusher heads with this will very likely end up in Atheneum as a requested perk option along unyielding and maniac

[glossy ember]

i think executor is better for crowd and still works on single target than bleed while being less conditional imo

but yeah bleed on crit op too

but idk if executor lets you hit any breakpoint on big targets

[near wyvern]

Yeah 60% with maniac perk is enough to one shot flamers with heavies, I just gotta check for mutant two shot and three shot thresholds

[glossy ember]

damage dump stat

[near wyvern]

I will check out executor the next time I will play, if it's fixed it might very well rise to a top tier blessing for knife given how power scales multiplicatively with rending

[glossy ember]

you lose stacks if you hit something else than a weakpoint still but if you hit nothing you keep stacks

afaik

but well heads are usually at the same height

also each weakpoint hit is a stack so thats kinda sexy

[near wyvern]

Do you still drop stacks if you cleave through a weakspot into a non-weakspot? That's the main issue. As well as stacks dropping on dots.

[glossy ember]

stacks don't drop on dots anymore i think someone here tested

i didnt spawn a mixed horde to test tho

for the weakspot into non weak

not home to check tho

[vestal fulcrum]

The behaviour seems like this:
Any first hit WS that cleaves into another body hit does not drop the buff. Multiple WS hits stack the buff multiple times.
If first hit is body it resets the buff.
If first hit is body, but it hits a WS (or multiple) on the way of its cleave, it stacks for X amount of WS hits past the first body hit.

[glossy ember]

ooooo

that sounds strong

oh wait

[vestal fulcrum]

It's... OK.

[glossy ember]

what if second hit is body

[vestal fulcrum]

Nothing, you keep the buff if the first hit was a WS hit.

[glossy ember]

[vestal fulcrum]

So it's very easy to stack it, and very easy to drop it

"very easy" to stack, i.e., your WS game has to be on point

H1L1 Illisi stacks this very easily, for instance, but any sword with 60 degree horizontal hits is also somewhat reasonable

[near wyvern]

That means it should be perfectly usable now then

[vestal fulcrum]

I'd say it might be on par with Slaughterer in some situations.

Fighting a boss, for instance?

[glossy ember]

illisi with executor and slaughter

[near wyvern]

But for knife you don't have access to Slaughterer

You want to pair a +Power blessing and uncanny strike

[glossy ember]

yeah executor is the only power vlessing for it

[near wyvern]

Because they stack multiplicatively

[glossy ember]

muh infinite cleave.....

[vestal fulcrum]

And for Knife it's just a power upgrade, again, if you can hit WS consecutively

[near wyvern]

Crusher says hello for your infinite cleave

[glossy ember]

you defo can

push attack and h1h2 are great for ws

[near wyvern]

With the new knife hitting weakspots is easy

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-crying-shower-sad-bathroom-gif-17172080

[vestal fulcrum]

I don't have the new knife yet, Brunt scammed me for 1M dockets and I'm broke again 😢

Sitting comfortably on a pile of 250k Dockets to fish for Armoury exchange weapons whenever I can

[glossy ember]

i wish i hadnt rolled backstab on my knife it feels like such a meme

when do i even get to backstab things

[near wyvern]

It's only moderately usable for zealots

Since they have other talents to go with the backstabs as well and ways of getting them a lot easier

Like improved mobility and stealth

[glossy ember]

like i guess if i backstab a crusher with push attack to hit the head through the body?..

[near wyvern]

With the new knife it's possible to do that but fully stacked uncanny is the same as backstab but from any angle

There is just the ramp up time but it's much more consistent that going for backstabs

And you can use it to duel a plogryn

[glossy ember]

yeah and way less conditional

[cunning yew]

Obesefish should add teleport ability to psyker for backstab builds

[glossy ember]

well i'll just wait for a better knife

[compact cargo]

remove assail, replace with teleport

[strong gulch]

I pray for better knives for us all. 🙏

[glossy ember]

any other notable knife blessing i should be on the lookout for

the punch crit rate one looks kinda garbage

stagger from punch seems inconsistant

[vestal fulcrum]

Riposte is OK.

Precog with Riposte is a good combo, but you forgo Uncanny, so it's not exactly an optimal choice on anything than maybe Veteran (and Zealot?)

[near wyvern]

For Psykers, it's always uncanny strike. For the second blessing it used to be that flesh tearer was the best choice. I have to test Excecutor now that it's fixed but flesh tearer will still definitely be useful especially against ogryn sized enemies and monstrosities.

With the base crit chance of the knife, you should be able to hit the bleed cap with push attacks against a monstrosity using flesh tearer.

[potent echo]

anyone notice hitmarkers disappearing for laspistol ADS mode?

[wraith relic]

Hey, kind of a new guy around these parts, I've been running Psyker lately and I'm trying to figure out "How do you get good with Assail?" Cause I feel like I've made a bad build with it since I've divorced it from gun-Psyker and I'm concluding that was a mistake.

[near wyvern]

The thing with on dodge blessings is that they require for an enemy to go through the attack animation. So if you stagger them mid swing it won't activate.

[spice veldt]

the new version of the weapon customizion mod has an option that disables crosshair when ADSing with sights on

[glossy ember]

sounds good to me ty

[near wyvern]

Check Psyker Atheneum ( 📌 ) but in short you wanna always throw 1-3 quell cancelled LMB into 1 RMB and weave with your melee/ranged weapon. If you are using a gun, stacking that Malefic Momentum up really makes a difference.

[brave fiber]

nah, assail is good to take when you don’t have good range, or an answer to elites/mixed hordes. Generally you take psyker blitzes to cover for your builds weaknesses.

[vestal fulcrum]

Yes, but, that's the point, that's why the blessing is only "OK" in my view. It's good whenever you engage a lot of enemies and you can't immediately go into push-attack-spam mode, and the duration is generous enough to riddle some enemy with critical hits.

[wraith relic]

I'm still trying to build up a library of staves and guns, but so far I've been pairing it with Telekine Shield and Warp Siphon.

And a Trauma Staff.

[vestal fulcrum]

And I generally try to evaluate a blessing in general - it may be less attractive on Psyker precisely because they get to go completely nuts with the stand and deliver push attack spam, which other classes can't do as freely (or at least from the get-go)

[brave fiber]

Are you max level rolling for weapons, or still leveling?

[wraith relic]

Hit 30 just recently; I usually do Zealot or Veteran, been levelling Vet since the beta.

After this it's Ogryn

[vestal fulcrum]

This just in: a decent Surge staff?

[brave fiber]

gotcha, yeah trauma is one of the harder staffs to get a good roll on

[brave fiber]

Yeah, unarmored kinda sucks tho

[vestal fulcrum]

I haven't played Surge in ages and this is a redemption arc for me

[wraith relic]

Well, all my perks and blessings on it seem to suck

[strong gulch]

Good enough to get you going on surge.

[vestal fulcrum]

I suppose it might have been a phasing staff for the period where random body parts could be targeted 💀

[strong gulch]

yip

[brave fiber]

Purgatus and surge are much much easier to get a god roll for, less chance you get a blessing you don’t want

people tend to have trouble with void and trauma tho

[wraith relic]

So far I'm just working up the scratch to get one; I've not broken 330 on a Purgatus

This is my current Trauma

[brave fiber]

Purgatus is weird because you don’t really need a staff with high modifiers to get basically the same effectiveness of a maxed out one

All that matters (mostly) is burn and cloud radius

[brave fiber]

Yeah that’s pretty rough, there’s nothing you can really do with that instead of replacing it and trying again

[wraith relic]

Welp it's the best I've got for the time being.

[brave fiber]

Tis the plight of darktides horrible crafting

[strong gulch]

Yeah that's rough.

Good CC tool tho

[plucky flax]

[brave fiber]

Man it’s 3 am what am I doing

Gn yall

[strong gulch]

But weapons don't have to be perfect to play this game.

[potent echo]

alright

[wraith relic]

Na, but it sure helps.

[vestal fulcrum]

This is a little better.

a higher sum of modifiers, too

Sadge about no Lv4 Warp Flurry, but at least I can upgrade Nexus

[plucky flax]

Yeah surge already quite fast not a big difference between t3 and 4 flurry.

[strong gulch]

It does. I recently leveled zealot and had a cheater revolver with BIS high tier blessings. 💀

[wraith relic]

I know it's far from perfect, but here's my veteran's beloved Power Sword for instance

[strong gulch]

Nice

[plucky flax]

Yo slap maniac on that

[strong gulch]

got THE™️ T4

[wraith relic]

Replace the flak armor with it?

[plucky flax]

Yeah I think so. Without flak you can already 1 shot special dreg bruiser.

[coarse tartan]

so i've got this...

[plucky flax]

Top less guy with helm.

[coarse tartan]

what would you do with this? warp flurry and flak armor?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[strong gulch]

Yeah.

[mint pivot]

😮

[coarse tartan]

oh hey i watch your videos to get my psyker started :)

[mint pivot]

aww shit, that needs finesse right?

[plucky flax]

Yeah you want finesse.

[strong gulch]

Yeah. 🥲

[mint pivot]

Figured that mofo wont give us anything good...

[plucky flax]

Cool man psyker my favourite. Zealot is my 2nd favourite although it's the highest level.

[wraith relic]

Done.

[coarse tartan]

i played my zealot first before switching

psyker is a lot harder i think

zealot is just so tanky

feels like i can take on the entire game

[mint pivot]

lmao i just want staffs atm -.-'

[strong gulch]

That's really nice tho. MK 4 is good.

RIP no staff

[fallen bronze]

is the charge rate good enough? if so, is this salvageable?

[plucky flax]

Check if you can special light attack the dreg bruiser. I'm very positive you can. Also bm is a very strong blessing on mk6 sword also.

[spice veldt]

can't wait for us to get a new force melee before a new force staff

[plucky flax]

Use staff and stay back more. I take very little damage a round with psyker unless I fuck up

(I do every round)

[coarse tartan]

i just get little fuckers running up behind me

[frigid olive]

but what if I want to be an insane frontline psyker

[bold maple]

then take bubble

else stay back

[plucky flax]

If you don't die you can so anything you like.

[wraith relic]

That'd be the fella with all the tubes in his back yeah?

[plucky flax]

No. Top less guy with shiney head.

You should special light attack headshot both scab and dreg bruiser. Those are the tanky melee chaff.

[wraith relic]

I believe we're both talking about this charming gentleman here yes?

[compact cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-mutant-warhammer-40k-darktide-mutant-gif-1118053842768353546

[spice veldt]

that's a dreg rager

[compact cargo]

aaaaaaah

[wraith relic]

Oh Bruiser

[spice veldt]

bruisers are over yonder to the right, together with the basic ranged enemies

[wraith relic]

This fella.

[spice veldt]

yeee

[lucid terrace]

Hate that guy

[wraith relic]

(You shouldn've said "helmet" then cause "the rager up there has got a shiny head himself.)

[spice veldt]

my mk6 psword can one-shot them, though I run precision strikes so i'm not sure if it misses out on a breakpoint by a little bit or not without it

[plucky flax]

Xd

Pot head mofos

[spice veldt]

and if you can one-shot one bruiser, BM allows you to one-shot 4 of them in a single swing

[wraith relic]

Yeah it two swings the rager and one shots the bruiser if it's charged. Which knowing the trouble I've had with him previously...

[plucky flax]

But your sword with high damage and finesse should 1 shot both bruiser type.

[wraith relic]

God I missed my pre-nerf powersword.

[plucky flax]

So since it 1 shot, you can switch slaughterer to bm.

It'll actually let you horde clear faster.

[wraith relic]

BM?

[plucky flax]

Brutal momentum.

Bm combat axe is broken on zealot.

[wraith relic]

Ohoho really now...

[bold maple]

dont powersword cleave 12 target by default

charge m1 m1 m1 and a horde's dead

[plucky flax]

Yeah it cleaves a lot but it has big damage fall off.

[severe folio]

how do you guys play with deflector on your force sword

[plucky flax]

With bm you cleave and kill a lot with each swing.

Use it to retreat / get to cover.

Or if you're low peril and the distance is not far you can walk up to them.

[severe folio]

i see

im walking towards them too often then

was tryna do a

deflector vent shriek

[wraith relic]

I feel like I'm on an episode of Pimp My Ride.

[severe folio]

but cannot cover enough ground

[plucky flax]

What sword do you use? Cos if I want to build peril I'd rather special spam than stand there to block bullets.

[wraith relic]

The God Emperor shall be well pleased with this weapon of war.

[severe folio]

deimos

would special spam but this is the case where theres only ranged enemy from the distance

so special spam dont do much

and no cant use staff to kill them because its purgatus, too far away

[plucky flax]

I mean special spam to build peril.

For deimos you have to special then weapon switch. Illisi you just keep stroking it

[severe folio]

im tryna do both build peril and approaching them

because you know

oh i should mention

i also have KD

[strong gulch]

I was gonna ask if special spam on deimos changed or not lol. nvm

[severe folio]

well

every form of those special

force sword, chainsword

all of them can be cancel by dodge out now

[strong gulch]

yee

[severe folio]

except for illisi, cuz illisi still do the same thing

[plucky flax]

I mean using the special activation as a tool to build peril for shriek.

Without hitting anything.

[onyx sentinel]

buy left or somehow try to salvage right? the one I have has shit charge rate

[strong gulch]

I'd buy the left, but I'm not low on melk coins.

[severe folio]

yah but, you still need to kill the ranged enemies

[wraith relic]

Incidentally I had it indicated by someone that I could find people to help out with a Malleus Monstronum run?

[severe folio]

you most likely should do so

because you need to: do it in private mode, kill all bots

unless you are pogger in that

[plucky flax]

With creeping flames!

[wraith relic]

I lack the confidence in Psyker to say I am, certainly. Where should I go to ask then?

[severe folio]

idk, i think theres a looking for group channel in here

[severe folio]

i hope that its close enough, its 30 m right ?

[plucky flax]

This track is so cool. Really fits psyker's funky vibe
https://youtu.be/_IiDYh4ai8g?si=FBfJjBO3REK43QuW

[strong gulch]

There are the #vox-lfg-lexicanum if no one in here does /can.

[plucky flax]

25 metres. Can go through most walls but some are weird.

[severe folio]

hm

wish theres a setup that let me melee more

with ease

deflector seem like the right aggressor choice

KD for peril build up while you move into gunners

then shriek them to stagger them

[plucky flax]

Join the dark side of zealot.

[severe folio]

no

[plucky flax]

[severe folio]

WE are the dark side lol

[strong gulch]

assail + purg?

[plucky flax]

Loner stealth zealot got a bad rep on reddit but every time I play I save and clutch so much.

Leddit

[severe folio]

yeah assail

well my assail is mostly for really far away

like even further than creeping flame

or when 0 peril

[strong gulch]

I watched that video of you zealot clutch. You're not wrong; stealth would have made that so much easier.

[severe folio]

but what if everytime you play stealth zealot you create more bad situation for your team

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah that round I was so sad. Stuck with endless specials and ragers horde at the end.

[severe folio]

and so you keep creating clutch situation

[plucky flax]

Nothing I can do without stealth or grenades.

[severe folio]

does dropping grenade break your stealth

[plucky flax]

Yeah but stun or flame would let me ress anyway.

Even without stealth.

[wraith relic]

Welp I think I did it right.

[plucky flax]

But I had throwing knives and chastise.

[weak widget]

what counts as warp damage or warp attack kills? do attacks with staves count?

ok they do

it doesn't feel like I'm getting 7.5% toughness per kill though

[severe folio]

im hunting for the new chainsword

[severe folio]

anything that build your peril, or have that warp magickery count as warp damage

okay, saying everything that build your peril isnt quite correct because i think vent shriek also count as warp damage

[strong gulch]

Specials from force swords, blitzs, soulblaze, LMB and RMB on staves are all warp

[severe folio]

but yes anything of that warp magickery is warp magic

[iron goblet]

Just wondering. There's a skill early on in the tree. It says it adds soul blaze. Just wondering if in game I can look up what that is?

[severe folio]

yeah if you hover your mouse over it

[iron goblet]

lovely lol, not sure why i didn't try that haha

[severe folio]

oh you mean what is soulblaze ?

uhh

no theres nowhere in the game that tell you what exactly is soulblaze

we have an entry for soulblaze explaination in the steam guide pinned in this channel

you can take a look

[iron goblet]

yeah that's what i mean. Like the skills they say they add an effect. Like soulblaze. but they don't explain what that means?

[severe folio]

right well

[iron goblet]

sorry, probs a nooblet question

[severe folio]

shortest explaination is that its flame damage, warp flame that stick on enemy and burn them, damage them overtime

this is separate DoT from other flame source like barrels or zealot

[weak widget]

it's a perfectly valid question, the game fails to explain almost every important mechanic

[severe folio]

damage calculation for soulblaze is based on how many "stacks" of soulblaze is on an enemy, the higher the stack the stronger the DoT

[iron goblet]

ahh k that makes sense

[severe folio]

the cap stacks is 31

[iron goblet]

gotcha

Thanks for that. very helpful 🙂

[severe folio]

and the amount of stack that will kill most normal enemies is 6

6 stacks of soulblaze will kill poxwalkers, groaners, gunners

[iron goblet]

I've got another question if that's ok. Was just wondering. What's the optimal way to move around quickly? Do you sprint? jump, slide? I'm using dueling sword mk4 atm if that makes any dif. Swapping between staffs

[severe folio]

mm well

moving around with the mk4 is correct, it has a very fast sprint speed

[potent echo]

theres a move tech

[severe folio]

if you strafe while sprinting while you have stamina, you will be faster than enemies targeting and being able to dodge their shots as long asyou have stamina

[potent echo]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1zGd74qfSv--SJ/d1337s8LKVYg?invite=cr-MSxuOTAsMTk5OTY0MzA3LA

Duelling sword movetech
Hold Sprint
Hold LMB
Release LMB
Crouch (When the sword slashes, or when you hear your character shout)
Repeat

[severe folio]

dodging to the side also avoid bullets

sliding backward or sliding to the side also avoid bullets

sliding forward can help with running faster

[iron goblet]

worth swapping the duck key? i'ts on cntrl atm. Would probs make sliding a bit easier huh

[severe folio]

actually i dont know what does sliding forward even do

well i swap my duck key to f

[potent echo]

my crouch is on mouse button

[iron goblet]

i've got dodge on the mouse

and weapon special

[crisp zephyr]

Spamming slide while running forward extends stamina meter but its slightly slower compared to just running unless you have perfect input timing on slides

[potent echo]

so the duelling sword heavy gives an initial burst of speed, the trick is you slide at the moment you get the burst of speed to preserve it over a long distance

also you save stamina this way

[strong gulch]

Sliding helps preserve stamina and you take less damage vs sprinting if hit.

[iron goblet]

ahh ok amazing

i figured this would be similar to vermintide with a virtually infinite skill ceiling huh

[potent echo]

wait till you hear about the mantle dodge slide trick

[spice veldt]

and i-frames

[severe folio]

i see

[strong gulch]

Yes i-frames

[iron goblet]

What's the input they're doing here? Special and running forward?

[severe folio]

i dont have a lot of i-frame against melee units

when sprinting

[potent echo]

sprint forward
hold lmb
release lmb
press crouch

repeat

[iron goblet]

ahh ok

yep, definintely moving that hotkey lol

[severe folio]

why dont we have this move tech pinned

MODS

[potent echo]

what if its unintended and it gonna get nerfed

[severe folio]

well

then we unpin when its nerfed

[potent echo]

knife has a far easier way to do this, just sprint forward and hold lmb, thats it

[iron goblet]

Is the stab not a special attack?

[potent echo]

its a heavy, this is a mk4 duelling sword

[iron goblet]

ahh k

[potent echo]

you can do the same for the rest of the marks

it will just look different but perform the same i think

[iron goblet]

i'll jump in the holodeck and test it in a min

btw. is there any lore regarding the amazing technology of the 41st milenium but the severe issue with how slow elevators are? I suppose STCs were lost?

[potent echo]

timing is to press crouch after you hear your character shout

[runic mural]

uhhh how would i build gun psiker in like talent tree

[severe folio]

mostly right side

take crits, weakspot damages

can neglect warp damage

[runic mural]

nod nod

[severe folio]

pretty much it

[coarse tartan]

i wonder how bad voidstrike scrier plays

you get a lot of crit for surge

[severe folio]

apparently not that fair better than without

because with true aim youll get decent amount of crit and not pester by scrier rapid buildup

but with scrier you also get a damage boost, movement speed

[potent echo]

20% crit chance is not alot

[severe folio]

fukk

[severe folio]

the shop isnt selling the new chainsword

[obtuse moth]

is haymaker any good with the new knife

[grand scroll]

Dear God...the Stability.

[harsh urchin]

brunt

[grand scroll]

Otherwise, should I upgrade this laspistol?

[harsh urchin]

i would try out

a 70-80 stability one

in meat grinder

and see if stability matters

and use that to make your decision

[grand scroll]

Alright

[harsh urchin]

not sure if it affects stuff such as moving accuracy, etc

[grand scroll]

Recoil seems to be a problem.

I can tell.

[harsh urchin]

then it is not a dumpstat 👍

[severe folio]

WAIT THEY ALREADY ADD IT IN

WTF

REEEE

[grand scroll]

Shouldn't be too problematic yet

[near wyvern]

It's the IIIg, right at the bottom of brunt melee weapons on the left if I recall

[grand scroll]

This one will serve until I find a better one.

[compact cargo]

Stability for it seems to be a dump stat if it's over 50%

[severe folio]

thanks, do you have any research about this weapon yet

[compact cargo]

Similar to hh

[grand scroll]

Yeah, but even then the one I have is still ridiculously lightweight.

[near wyvern]

None outside of attack patterns, push attack into triple light for horde, heavy heavy cancel for single targets

[severe folio]

i see

im about to brick this so hard

[harsh urchin]

yeah

its too good

gonna get fucked 100%

[severe folio]

[solar sand]

is there a fix for this or does it just happen randomly?

had it happen a few times now

[coarse tartan]

does the scrier gaze crit linger too? or is it only the increased dmg?

[severe folio]

i actually dont know

cant tell

20% cant really tell

im not sure if the stat expressing mod would show or not

[solar sand]

so uh, people say bosses still spawn but

i have yet to run into them

on multiple aurics

[severe folio]

maybe just your badluck

i had 2 monst today

[harsh urchin]

gotta download more RAM

yeah ive hit a few as well

[solar sand]

done 4 regular damnations and 3 aurics and no monsters (other than DHs)

[half iron]

i am a boss magnet

[bleak tulip]

havent had it happen since I turned off DarkCache

thinking its the mod that causes it mostly

[near wyvern]

It does show, for example if you have crucian roulette it shows the total crit chance correctly so that can be used to verify

[solar sand]

im pretty sure i dont have that one

as i was looking at getting a caching one

[bleak tulip]

hm dunno then, maybe it still happens and cache just exacerbates the problem

[vestal fulcrum]

Inventory 2D is the biggest offender in my case

[mint pivot]

Most def, the swordfucker with the power of god and anime on his side just wiped my squad

[vestal fulcrum]

Because each and every item in the inventory needs to have its image generated

[solar sand]

also that bitch is a hoe on auric

[bleak tulip]

that ones also still listed and causing crashes

[solar sand]

when im not built antiboss

[severe folio]

so we can use the mod to test lingering crier crit ?

[bleak tulip]

also crosshair hud had an update and its been going fine for me

[near wyvern]

Yes

[severe folio]

oki

[vestal fulcrum]

But the crashing on my end doesn’t occur “just because”. The mod just inevitably accelerates the memory leak.

[severe folio]

now to find the mod again lol

[bleak tulip]

I guess?

[vestal fulcrum]

It was causing memory issues before (P16), it does so now, too

[near wyvern]

Just make sure you view the stats fast enough

[bleak tulip]

Ive not had any crashes without darkcache at least so the leak is either pretty slow on its own or I just have enough ram, even through the out of memory error usually happened independently of my ram

[vestal fulcrum]

But I really can’t manage my inventory without the mod, so it’s a lose-lose situation

3 rows of items in a grid is much more easier to navigate

[bleak tulip]

no idea bout inventory 2d

hate the look of it personally lol

[vestal fulcrum]

I just crash sometimes while I’m in the menus, it’s no big deal

[untold niche]

any tutorial good sir

[quartz barn]

Weapon custom works fine for me?

There were multiple patches

[severe folio]

i just got thrown into fire by a mutant

and die immediately lol

[quartz barn]

First one fixed the crashes but broke the menu, further patches fixed the menu as well

[solar sand]

yeah not losing all toughness instantly is great but like, god damn does that shit hurt now

[severe folio]

bruh the mutant 😭

i though i was save from the fire and then he

man whoever said the fire is better now clearly havent play this patch

[quartz barn]

Pro tip: if you are gonna get grabbed by a mutant try to stand next to a wall/ledge

Forces him to instathrow you

[severe folio]

its gonna skip smashing and throw right ?

thats what he did

[quartz barn]

Doesnt work with doors

[severe folio]

he insta throw me into flame lol

and what do they mean by it break toughnes slower

it immediately gobble up my bar

[quartz barn]

Takes 2 tics now wow

[mint pivot]

thats like 4x as long as it used to take

[severe folio]

hmm gonna have to get more toughness then

110 isnt enough

[mint pivot]

Before this patch if you thought about touching the very edge of the flames, you intantly lost ALL toughness

[severe folio]

i dont feel a lot of difference with the previous patch yet

except for the immediate death

[harsh urchin]

main difference is being able to run through the fire

[solar sand]

if you stand in the fire you die faster now, but if you tippy touch the edge you dont insta lose all your toughness, nice for skirting it, not nice for every other aspect of it

[harsh urchin]

of a flamer

if you need to get to other side

whereas before the patch it wasn't really a thing

[severe folio]

well i def cannot run out of the flame i just die in

[urban sandal]

don't revive teammates in fire until the fire is gone you'll kill them again

[quartz barn]

I mean i guess being able to run through the fire is nice for ogryns

[severe folio]

are you sure you can run through the fire

it still slow me down

if i got thrown into it

[quartz barn]

Nah you get staggered by your toughness breaking

[mint pivot]

being low on toughness and touching fire is a very very very no go action. It will shred your health fast 😄

[quartz barn]

So the result is the same

[clear heath]

the fire is super deadly now

[quartz barn]

Just bunnyhop and you should be fine unless youre stuck in a horde

[mint pivot]

Mental image of a psyker bunnyhopping thru flame just to eat a sniper shot to the face mid flames 😄

[quartz barn]

However, its nice that you can easily melee rush a flamer now

Getting blasted through a floor is still bs tho

[urban sandal]

fuck I hate how their verticality works

[harsh urchin]

jump

lol

[strong gulch]

Flamer runs up and kicks you then flames you.

[quartz barn]

Strafe around them?

You need to do that anyway in case he does flame you

[strong gulch]

Not when it's a surprise from behind. Lol

[quasi junco]

just had a bomber take us all down to 10-20% HP from full, glad they are toning this dumb shit down

[potent echo]

just edited the comment to add more details

[half iron]

flamer kick and bomber direct donk are up there in the most powerful attacks in the chaos faction

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-gif-24390252

[violet oak]

ive been watching my team get melted by grenaders halfway across the map behind stalls and the likes

If the hive had football, those naders would be professionals

[quasi junco]

honestly they could keep the insane damage if the bomber had to move within LoS of one player before lobbing

[strong gulch]

I could never make it as a bomber. I miss the bin from two feet away.

[half iron]

i could make it as a rager.
mindlessly swing things and get my health nerfed after i realize how cool i am

[clear heath]

yeah i'd actually be fine with flamers being the way they are
Bombers doing this kind of damage with the kind of aim they have is messed up

[strong gulch]

I could be hadron, just break shit all day.

[half iron]

ah, and blame it on someone else, huh?

[strong gulch]

Emp said to break it.

[half iron]

maybe it’s not broken, but bored. i know i am.

[quasi junco]

They should honestly copy spitters from the goated L4D2

the damage started off minimal, but ramped up like nuts if you stay in the acid

[violet oak]

Beast of nurgle called?

[quasi junco]

Tell the Bonbon my Thammer is coming for him

[quartz barn]

Glubbie needs a better ai tbh

Atm you can just put him in baby jail by placing a bubble on him and he'll just spam his spit attack

[violet oak]

Thats lore accurate

[compact cargo]

Siblings

Why do maulers take 3htk with bb but crushers 2htk

This shit doesn't make sense

why did I just deal 3.1k damage to a crusher

[violet oak]

They are built different

[compact cargo]

(using ep, no warp charges)

[violet oak]

Maulers casually stroll around your dream with a big chainaxe and full plate armor. The embodiment of "built different"

[delicate stratus]

Because Ogryns have smaller brains, sibling.

[violet oak]

'alf my brain is missing sah, didn't change a thing sah

[delicate stratus]

It's okay brute. Have a ration.

[viscid pecan]

And then we just have a Crusher following us like a minion for the rest of the map

[severe folio]

wowie

thinking to replace rev it up with rampage, should i do that

[near wyvern]

Noooo

[cosmic sigil]

Oo

[potent echo]

pog it up

[near wyvern]

First of all, you only wanna use chainsword for the mobility aspect with psykers so Rev it up + Bloodletter is the best blessing combo.

Second of all, this is the single target variant chainsword, the original one is the horde clear oriented one.

If you want to use rampage why not just use a duelling sword.

[violet oak]

New Psyker ability, control a lesser enemy

[near wyvern]

Chainsword is your all-around mobility stick with some nice Monstrosity damage through Bloodletter. If you are using it for something else, do yourself a favour and use a duelling sword.

[severe folio]

thats truee

then though, if i want to replace rev it up, what would be a smarter blessing ?

or is the value of chainsword really only come from rev it up

[sour hollow]

Value only really comes from rev it up, at least on psyker.

If only because duelling sword really does just kinda outclass it on psyker. Really can't beat those heavy stabbies.

[half iron]

john brunt, i pray that you give me a cutely rolled revolver with my name etched on the cylinder

[cosmic sigil]

At that point why not take a knife with lacerate/flesh tearer?

[severe folio]

i see

[severe folio]

because i want to fight heretic like how the forefather taught

[sour hollow]

Because I'm new, poor, and not going to see a better roll than this for a long time. Plus, the extra range helps.

Could prob nuke harder with a knife with the right stats to be sure, but also gotta dry hump the oggys to get them crits.

[plucky flax]

Popped a combat stim and went to town on the twin boss (timestamped)
https://youtu.be/_KEGYnoI7-o?t=10m39s

[quartz barn]

Wait when do you ever hit 3 enemies with mk4 ds?

[sour hollow]

I use it for horde clear, the lil fleshy mobs don't take a ton to kill.

[severe folio]

you can

if you light attacks

[sour hollow]

It's more QoL than fully optimized

[severe folio]

youll want to swap elite to maniac

[sour hollow]

Whyfor? Just so I know, honestly

[spice veldt]

ds lights have 4.5 cleave
groaners have 1.25 hitmass, and poxwalkers 1.5 hitmass

[severe folio]

a lot more damage and better enemies coverage if you pick maniac, flamer, trapper, mutants, ragers, and its 25%

[sour hollow]

Ohho. I didn't know it covered ragers, that's 'nuff for me

[severe folio]

yes the armorless rager is maniac

[sour hollow]

Thanks for that note.

[severe folio]

yeah

[sour hollow]

Swapped it out. :D

[severe folio]

the armored rager is flak

which is the body of mauler, rager, dreg and scab gunners. normal scab enemies

[plucky flax]

Maniac is all the dangerous dudes.

And they tend to take extra melee damage too so maniac is very good on melee weapons.

[severe folio]

make sure when youre dealing with rager you stagger them with the special attack to the head

[sour hollow]

Yeah, I've gotten really good at head stabs

Very satisfying when ya tumble a rushing mutie

Also is it weird I deal with armored ragers better than the naked ones? It feels like they're easier to kill

[severe folio]

before or now

because if you use that exact sword to deal with armored rager before

[sour hollow]

Uhhh. Now? I've only been playing for two weeks lmao

[severe folio]

no i mean

with that sword ?

[sour hollow]

Yeah, I've been using it religiously past couple days.

Haven't gone back into a mission now that I swapped the perk

[severe folio]

well

that sword deals more damage to flak than maniac

[sour hollow]

Oh, I more just mean. Ease of hitting their dang head

[severe folio]

oh

that im not sure

[urban sandal]

nah I've always felt the same way

[severe folio]

looks like god ordain i cant get a crazy revolver yet

unlike my chainsword

which i feel like, isnt much different from the old one lol

still 3 shot crusher

and 2 shot mauler

[obtuse moth]

this zealot in my game has infinite stealth charges

[severe folio]

how

[obtuse moth]

idk, theyre not shooting or killing things or taking damage and just constantly popping it

probably the bug posted a week or two ago idk

[sour hollow]

They do get one every 45s, less if someones running cooldown. (60s if double stealthboi)

Unless they're popping it more often than that

[obtuse moth]

no, its every time stealth wears off ever

they immediately go back into stealth

ressing, shooting, or stabbing

stealthstealthstealthstealthstealthstealthstealthstealth

[sour hollow]

huh

[obtuse moth]

honestly unfun for everyone to constantly be ressed into death while they run around the map invisible

[potent echo]

its just the crit cdr thing isnt it

[spice veldt]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/shroudfield-instant-cooldown-bug/87744

[obtuse moth]

no theyre not critting if theyre not attacking

[potent echo]

???????????

what even is this

[spice veldt]

god works in mysterious ways

[sour hollow]

The emperor blessed those screaming madmen for a while

[potent echo]

its like holding back a sneeze and now you become enlightened

[steel nimbus]

Played a game of psyker earlier and tried to pop one of the twin's heads and it seemed to deal a sum total of 0 damage. Anyone else experienced that?

[severe folio]

zealot eat good this patch huh 😔

practically every weapon

[plucky flax]

Hrm I can't reproduce it.

[severe folio]

now its every bug

[gray jetty]

Fucking lol what

[severe folio]

wait this new knife is kind of slap

[gray jetty]

Gotta see if this is reproducible when I get home lmao

[steel nimbus]

Idk, I was lv 5 I think so only had base ability, base aura, base blitz, ..

[obtuse moth]

it feels sooo short ranged

[keen dome]

yay or nay?

[plucky flax]

I can't reproduce this stealth cd bug.

So it must be some rare case.

[gray jetty]

Yes

[plucky flax]

Yo that's a pretty nice sword.

[steel nimbus]

Yea

[gray jetty]

Maniac is good, you can replace crit with like flak if anything

[keen dome]

epic gonna try it out

[glossy ember]

damn thats thicc

[plucky flax]

If it was 25% maniac it would be very close to perfect.

[gray jetty]

Technically

You can keep bloodthirsty

[glossy ember]

i mean he could go for flexible perks...

[gray jetty]

If you hate maniacs enough

[glossy ember]

[gray jetty]

Bloodthirsty, slaughterer, maniac and flak

[severe folio]

yay

[glossy ember]

can you loop bloodthirsty

as in special attack all the time and have 100% crit rate

[idle bay]

Anything bad or good for siblings in last patch? I'm personally did not noticed anything special. Safe for Surge working properly

[gray jetty]

Pretty sure bloodthirsty loops

[severe folio]

if youre fast enough i guess, and if it keep killing

the new knife feels craazy

[gray jetty]

Everything is good on psyker

[severe folio]

that block attack bruh

fukin england

[gray jetty]

Force swords, outside obscuras, are broken

[severe folio]

what do you mean by broken

[glossy ember]

new knife good

[gray jetty]

All other melee options are incredibly good too

Dueling sword mk4 is really dumb

[wind halo]

Obscurus 💀

[gray jetty]

Yes, poor obscuras

[idle bay]

Ah.. that one.. I noticed mu face got smashed yesterday after "WTF was that push attack" by rager.

[gray jetty]

Outclassed by illisi and deimos at literally anything

[idle bay]

It's self-challenge weapon

[gray jetty]

It's a self hate weapon

[idle bay]

same

[gray jetty]

You only take it if you want to suffer

Awful moveset

[fringe tangle]

This steam thread lmao

They think Smite is for DPS? Bruh, smite is the enemy pause button outside of bosses.

I love having a Psyker with this ability on my team, completely locks down the enemies for several seconds.

[gray jetty]

Special action takes just as long as deimos with half the damage

[gray jetty]

Smite is stupid good, there's just some psykers that will only smite

With 0 situational awareness

[fringe tangle]

Maybe so, but it's nowhere near 90% like this dude seems to think, more like 1/10.

[potent echo]

some of them just smite a single mauler and nothing else

i just run past the mauler

[wind halo]

I mean, his complaint is valid

There are a lot of Psykers that only have Smite as their weapon nowadays

[idle bay]

I'm using smite only if it's a massive push of 20 ragers/10maulers /10 crushers.
Or when i want to take a sip from my cup of tea 🙂

[sour hollow]

I smite for hordes, or for a quick mauler stunlock so I can swap to trauma or duelling

[gray jetty]

Yeah he makes a good point, but there's nowhere near that many smite only psykers

[fringe tangle]

Maybe it's a regional thing, like in the AU servers I rarely ever see Psykers only use smite.

[peak vault]

Hello! I'm new to the game and I'm wondering what's a "Warp attack" (in the context of Soulstealer talent)?

[wheat quartz]

it's good to go "right pause the battle immediately, I have a shriek coming up in five seconds" or "bit too many trappers right now, stop" or "the floor is made of poxwalkers, stop", but otherwise why would you use it

[wind halo]

I have a lot of [][][][][][][][][][][] Smite 100% Psykers

[gray jetty]

I've seen like, maybe 10 in my like hundred auric games

[sour hollow]

Staff attacks, charged force sword attacks, and your special ability

[fringe tangle]

Anything that is space magic counts.

[wheat quartz]

also soulblaze kills

like from venting shriek or other talents

[sour hollow]

Soulblaze you get from purgatory staff, or from your talents yeah

[peak vault]

Thanks!

[fringe tangle]

There's a combo with venting shriek that can basically unfuck just about any situation. Basically you smite until it maxes out and then vent so everything burns/knocked over and then quell remaining peril and then spam smite again.

[wheat quartz]

pretty much

[gray jetty]

Be me

Voidstrike

[sour hollow]

Smite really is just the 'unfuck this' tool.

[gray jetty]

Stupid staff

[fringe tangle]

yeah lol

[wheat quartz]

Carnival's final event is perfect for smite/shriek

[frigid zenith]

EP, creeping flames, smite with revolver is a good time.