psyker-class

[silver portal]

I usually do good on solo pubs

[feral verge]

Save plasteel and ordos for update

[silver portal]

Just carry with ur stick

[feral verge]

Which is probably coming tomorrow

[spice veldt]

you bastard

[true badger]

So I have a lot weapons and random things I buy so my characters have different builds for game variety

[feral verge]

I saved up 11 million ordos and 120k plasteel

[true badger]

And ofc farming t4 blessings

[spice veldt]

saving it for darktide 2

[true badger]

I'm fine with my purgatus tho so I haven't gone outside of that much yet

[silver portal]

Optomize one first to guarantee plasteel farming

[clear heath]

i'm just always poor

[silver portal]

Dw we all are :L

Except fatshark

Swimming in our cosmetic miney

[clear heath]

standards too high and too many weapons i wanna build

when each weapon i make is costing me 1-2 million ordo dockets at brunts

[true badger]

Yeah my psyker and zealot build(s) are pretty optimized, not perfect but I'm able to somewhat be enough of a carry, ogryn and vet not so much

[silk hawk]

Btw cosmetics have very generous prices i must say, at least here in Ukraine xD

[silver portal]

How much?

[true badger]

But my poor pskyer only had the one build because shield/bb is really nice to have

[silver portal]

Also how goes the war lol?

[true badger]

And purgatus go brrrrrrr

[silk hawk]

I recently bought a helmet skin for like 2$

[silver portal]

I’m not up to date on news

~>

[silk hawk]

2,5 even xD

Armor and legs for my zeal were like 8$ or 9$ for both

That's the price i can afford 😦

[quasi junco]

ty emperor, this is so badass

[patent wing]

u were right las pistol deals noticeable dmg vs bosses

[silk hawk]

When i heard that microsoft is planning to charge another 90$ for d4 expansion i was like:

[long wharf]

source?

[quasi junco]

how does everyone have their overproof setup? Mine goes off the screen

[silk hawk]

https://www.charlieintel.com/diablo/diablo-4-players-shocked-by-leaked-price-of-vessel-of-hatred-expansion-287058/

But honestly it's been all over inet

[quasi junco]

nvm I forgot to disable vanilla scoreboard

[static needle]

How many stacks of DD do you guys run for gunpsyker?

[silk hawk]

I see many people use extended duration...

But that's just speculations

[static needle]

30 stacks is insaaane tho

[untold widget]

30 stacks is insane, but when all of them fall off at once when it runs out, having the longer duration is more reliable damage

[digital narwhal]

Scrier's Gaze > Everything else

[fading depot]

Talents are for noobs

Go in with no talents allocated like a boss

[near crow]

What should I do with blessings on this sword for my full right side tree gunpsyker? I know Rampage+Savage Sweep is the normal devil's claw meta, but with all the crit chance you get from Scrier's+DD I'm wondering if building it to benefit off of that might work.

[orchid nest]

Oh I forgot to tell you, my buddy just sent me a laughing emoji and still hasn't queued with me

[hexed geyser]

What's the max toughness for a curio?

[untold widget]

Honestly wish I could tell you. I can't stand dclaws

[lunar hollow]

this is the way

[digital narwhal]

[fresh reef]

decided to queue up into melee maelstrom, first game of the day

I don't think I did too terribly

[raw idol]

17

[hexed geyser]

Great i just found that in my shop. Thanks!

[untold widget]

17 toughness, 21 hp, 3 stamina (base rating 77+), 1 wound

[long wharf]

that "article" is about a 3rd person unconfirmed hearsay

[raw idol]

You need 78 for hp, 77 for toughness, 75 for stamina (discovered those while setting up my item filters on armory exchange)

[echo turtle]

Where do your get the highest single target and # of one shots?

[fresh reef]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241

[orchid nest]

I believe 76 is enough btw

[untold widget]

I just remember someone saying that +3 stamina only really gives +3 stamina in game if the base rating is 77+, otherwise a rounding error in the code only gives 2 stam in game

[echo turtle]

I have that, I just don't see those exact things in the options

[raw idol]

Hmm I'll have to check mine

[digital narwhal]

"For Fun" Options

[untold widget]

if it's 76 instead then great

[echo turtle]

Gotcha

[orchid nest]

I think so. I think mine is 76, I'd have to double check

it's probably also possible that only some 76s are ok if it's still rounding there and not showing it like how the weapon base ratings are displayed wrong sometimes

[hexed geyser]

And what are the usual ideals perks for a curio?

[raw idol]

Health, toughness, gunner res, sniper res are all reasonable. Ordo dockets if you need them and don't need help in mission. Other classes I sometimes like toughness regen or stamina regen, but my psyker doesn't need those as much.

This 75 curio is giving me as many stamina bars as a higher rated one

[orchid nest]

I don't feel the need for toughness regen on psyker with their very good toughness economy but I know a good amount of people here disagree like pygex. if you do take toughness regen you want all 3.

[spice veldt]

in missions?

[raw idol]

In meat grinder

[spice veldt]

the bug is that it works in the psykhanium but that it doesn't work in actual multiplayer missions

[raw idol]

Ah time to annoy some people by leaving the mission at start

Let me test it out

[hexed geyser]

I feel like the toughness regen of psykers is great, the only danger is getting one shotted by something behind or a horde. Or just gunned down but that's always an issue.

[shadow quail]

I've been preferring HP over toughness lately

[radiant sleet]

Now that I have my Godrolled voidstrike, I'm tempted to try for a Trauma staff roll again.

I remember the combos being blaze+nexus or brittle+flurry. Is blaze+brittle a decent choice or not?

[echo turtle]

I'm gonna try some purgatus builds tonight, any tricks to it in the talents besides the obvious?

Seems like it would pair exceptionally well with assail and EP, but I'm not 100% on that

[hexed geyser]

Which one is the fire staff?

[echo turtle]

Purgatus

[willow hazel]

Why do you think Assail works with Purgatuss?

[echo turtle]

Because assail gains efficiency from EP, and purgatus doesn't get as much from siphon and DD

[orchid nest]

only thing I can offer besides what you probably already figured out is a very low warp resist deimos is great for it over a ds4 because purg builds peril slowly and being able to creeping flames at max stacks exactly when you want is a big help. plus the soulblaze benefits from uncanny so you likely want to pull out the melee anyways

[echo turtle]

As well, I don't think you need smite for purgatus to work with how much stagger the primary fire gives already

[untold widget]

blaze brittle works if you abuse smite giving True Aim stacks to guarantee crits for blaze

[echo turtle]

I was thinking to run it with assaail / vent and EP but wanted to try with scriers as well since it has such low peril use

[orchid nest]

vent is pretty good for it since it'll overcap your stacks to 21 instead of 15 but you can definitely get by without it

[radiant sleet]

I use true aim assail and I'm good at tracking my stacks so I dont overcap with assail, so I could maybe make that work

[echo turtle]

I've messed with uncanny and soul blaze and it's OK, it's a nice bonus but I'm not sure it see much of a difference as it's not usually worth swapping out to try gain advantage for

[untold widget]

sure, it's just easier with smite since it doesn't use the stacks

[bleak tulip]

I missed someone having a shit opinion again didn't I

[fallen ruin]

why does this headgear say vestures but everything else it shows is penance or commissary?

[raw idol]

Alright, 75 is giving me one less bar in mission.

[echo turtle]

Yeah, vent seems like it would be good, which is another reason I want to try with assail as it can quickly ramp up perils

[untold widget]

https://tenor.com/view/science-magic-sequins-gif-26013337

[old citrus]

does bloodthirsty on an illisi only apply the crit to first target?

[echo turtle]

But smite may be the answer, I'm not sure I haven't spent enough time with purgatus to have a strong opinion on the optimal blitz to pair into

I want wildfire though, so assail may not be the answer

[quasi junco]

Purg and bb go best together imo

[orchid nest]

Yeah if you have assail there is less need for a low warp resist deimos. bb has its perks too for the build for sure but it depends on everyone elses builds really. other than all of this make sure you have empathic evasion as purg basically perma procs it as long as you have things to burn

[echo turtle]

That's what I used to do in the past, but I find BB to be a bit low on the DPS

[quasi junco]

It is for sure. But with purg you can’t reach out and touch someone. Unless you use vent. But that’s not reliable

[echo turtle]

Ah nice, EA would be handy for that

[echo turtle]

Yeah, the range was ways an issue which is why I would just switch back to the surge staff or gun build

I may try a smite/siphon set up to cycle as much vents as possiblle

[quasi junco]

Purg smite sounds badass for when your teammates have ranged 100% covered

[lethal lagoon]

Crit exists even if you hit nothing.

So probably not.

[orchid nest]

purg is definitely workable against gunners without assail, bb is a nice compliment to it. that is why you would want a low warp resist deimos there, because a low enough one can get you to enough peril to do full creeping flames stacks in 2 quick qq cancel uses from 0 peril to hit a stack of gunners instead of dicking around with purg or bb to try to get the peril high enough

[lethal lagoon]

That's why assail turns purple

[quasi junco]

Just get deflector and kinetic deflection. Tank those gunners like a boss

[old citrus]

[quasi junco]

Two gunners even with block eff will give you 85 peril in seconds

Vent, block again as CF does its job

[orchid nest]

Yeah this can work in a pinch too. the low warp resist deimos would be my preference but it can work without a stamina curio. you're actually like.. too good at blocking the ranged fire with a stam curio unless there is a ton of them and they all aggro to you instead of splitting

I usually prefer anything that is completely under your control vs hoping the gunners shoot you again at that moment vs they randomly target someone else or decide that is a great time to return to cover etc

[echo turtle]

Yeah I don't regard peril blocking as a good source of geberation

[hexed geyser]

Base power is a bit low i know but i don't have time to get the perfect weapon yet. That aside what should i switch?

[echo turtle]

I want to be cycling quickly and on my terms

[quasi junco]

If all your teammates are dead (meme of black guy touching forehead)

[bleak tulip]

the staff, didnt get max burn 😔

but yeah prob flak

crit damage is bad

that to chance

[quasi junco]

Is terrifying barrage ok on purg?

[bleak tulip]

no

[hexed geyser]

I know burn is low but i'd rather have a low staff than no staff.

[bleak tulip]

its bad on literally everything

[quasi junco]

It sounds neat

[orchid nest]

the short range radius around you can be noticeable but purg has a very large amount of suppression built in that you can see on one of its stats. so its mainly only useful for the circle proc to the sides and behind

[quasi junco]

Oh lol, wasteful then

[feral verge]

it is very bad on all staves

[woeful patio]

Crit hits everything in the swing

[feral verge]

all staves already supress enemies heavily

terrifying barrage is like not having a blessing at all

useless

[spice veldt]

like you

[feral verge]

i will have you destroyed, miscreant

[feral verge]

not only are you a namby-pamby, you are also a rascal and a rabble-rouser

[strong gulch]

Terrible barrage on staves is only useful if you are doing non-purg LMB memes.

[feral verge]

never ever useful

i'd take any blessing, even at t1 over terrifyin barrage t4

[strong gulch]

LMB mains rise up.

[feral verge]

terrifying barrage killed and ate my son 1998

[sinful peak]

can this work as a blaze trauma? (swapping out crit and barrage)

[feral verge]

i have a lmb spam build

on trauma

[spice veldt]

i don't deserve to be dribbled on like this

[raw idol]

Yeah, LMB wants blazing + nexus, not terrifying barrage

Or maybe run-n-gun? Haven't tried that

[strong gulch]

Swap terrible barrage to nexus and crit damage to flak. It will work fine until you get a better stats.

Aka useable. 👍

[quasi junco]

Is it good on anything? Or just meh at best?

[feral verge]

as i said

useless

on everything

it's not even meh

[quasi junco]

Watch FS buff it

[bleak tulip]

hasnt happened in over a year

[strong gulch]

Don't take terrible barrage unless you are fully intending on doing memes.

[quasi junco]

Shoot one bullet, entire map cowers

[strong gulch]

True

[quasi junco]

lol interesting staff

[strong gulch]

You mean I am clearly having a healthy response to hadron bricking everything I give her.

[orchid nest]

yeah it's a pretty bad blessing in general

[bleak tulip]

shoulda gave it +stam so you can run at people better

[strong gulch]

It used to! 😭

I have spent a silly amount of plasteel changing perks around.

[feral verge]

im finally cleaning out my inventory a little bit

but this is the one thing i cant bring myself to sell

my first thammer

im selling all ireedemable junk (Like @spice veldt) in all my char inventories

[spice veldt]

kill it

kill you

[feral verge]

but this is the one thing i am keeping

@spice veldt

excuse me peasant

but mind telling me how much plasteel you have

how many ordos do you have

[spice veldt]

i reserve my right to silence

[quasi junco]

?

[feral verge]

hit the + icon button

on the right

lets you make seperate builds

[quasi junco]

Mine are Roman numerous tho

Numerals

[bleak tulip]

right click

[feral verge]

right click

[quasi junco]

lol wtf

[spice veldt]

mankar is cheatar

[feral verge]

speak not to me

poor person

[spice veldt]

you don't know for sure that i'm more poor

[feral verge]

i am 100% sure

[tawdry pasture]

bro's a worshipper of mehrunes dagon

that's what i be saying when i die in Elden Ring

Meh Runes

Dagon

[bleak tulip]

dag on nab it

[feral verge]

based

[amber vine]

Real ones use surge staff

[feral verge]

i'll be fake till i die then

cuz surge staff be doo-doo

[untold widget]

You know what really grinds my gears? Line of sighting a gunner doesn't make them stop firing and reposition

really

fucking

annoying

[tawdry pasture]

ask them nicely

[olive ember]

i fucking hate you

he waltzes into psyker chat to spread misinformation smh

[echo turtle]

Surge slaps

[feral verge]

surge is a very whelming staff

[echo turtle]

Purgatus, I found really disappointing so far tonight

The the time a substantial amount of blaze stacks were applied most stuff is getting killed by the tjne

[toxic relic]

What's the best staff for psyker now? Is surge still meta?

[echo turtle]

If you build it right the damage is really good

[feral verge]

i have a godrolled one

[echo turtle]

Surge is good, a lot of people can't figure out how to get efficiency out of it

[feral verge]

i am thoroughly whelmed

[echo turtle]

Not the staff, your build itself

[gusty horizon]

hi guys im 25 lvl psyker I think the surge staff is the only good weapon psykers have

[feral verge]

i have really solid builds

[silk hawk]

We still on topic of wet noodle staff :)?

[echo turtle]

Purge at that level is actually probs better

[feral verge]

level 550, 1.5k hours

surge is whelming

[echo turtle]

Can you show me the build you run with surge?

[gusty horizon]

3k hours professional tide

[toxic relic]

Oh okay, how do you get it to work good now?

[echo turtle]

Pair with venting shrieks / creeping flames for the blitz

Grab mettle

I like disrupt destiny, but warp siphon is good too

Perilous combustion and wild fire are good choices

[silk hawk]

Wild fire xDD

[toxic relic]

Sounds like almost every other build

[strong gulch]

Surge is my favorite staff. I think it needs work tho.

Seems like it depends more on talents compared to other staves.

[echo turtle]

The 30% quell skill is mandatory, quell to 60% and ramp back up to get all the peril based bonus's

[feral verge]

surge just doesnt feel/sound satisfying

[severe folio]

i have acquire full auto mod

my LMb is now a laspistol

[silk hawk]

Add 3 more targets to surge and its perfect xD

[gusty horizon]

cant edge??

[echo turtle]

I dunno, it one hits anything below a rager consistently enough for me, feels good

It gets wild when your DD stacks are up

[strong gulch]

Valid. Surge is fun for me to play. But if it isn't for you, that's valid af.

[steel flame]

soundless specials are tilting me so fucking hard tonight

[silk hawk]

I swear it's saying it's 3 degrees celsius here, but ot feels like -10 at least....

Disgusting....

[mortal breach]

[untold niche]

in my humble opinion warp siphon should have 6 charges by defualt :v

[zinc phoenix]

Hard to justify paying a point for two charges it true

[harsh urchin]

Doesn't do enough dmg to edge

[zinc phoenix]

A lot of the tree elements feel bloated

[zinc phoenix]

Or provide enough cooldown

[untold niche]

with 4 charges or even with 6?

[harsh urchin]

Ye

Oneshots are rng based on your crit

And which part of the body

[south spruce]

Well my gun psyker can be happy

[harsh urchin]

It decides to hit

[harsh urchin]

This is a brick

You need high dmg, stopping and stability

[south spruce]

why stab

[harsh urchin]

Lower ammo and mob is ok

[harsh urchin]

Try shooting it in the meat grinder

[south spruce]

...AH

Welp, sad

[ornate hamlet]

how do i do blessed by fate and power up penance?

[tardy stump]

i was about to answer you in zealot chat

blessed by fate with this ult

[untold niche]

wait so on crit it doesnt matter if i t ake warp siphon or DD?

[severe folio]

can do it with the base version too

[ornate hamlet]

what about power up?

[tardy stump]

i think they were just confused because penance refers to it with base name

[severe folio]

powerup you gonna need to be at least 30

you need 6 warp charges

[harsh urchin]

I wouldnt use surge with dd lol

Due to half the benefits of dd being wasted

[ornate hamlet]

how do i do that?

[harsh urchin]

I would personally only use dd with void and gunpsyker

[severe folio]

its at the bottom of psyker's talent tree, on the left

[ornate hamlet]

yeah just saw

[tardy stump]

are you sure 4 doesnt count?

[ornate hamlet]

ill cook something up

[tardy stump]

i dont remember running 6 warp stacks but it appears i completed it

as the base limit is 4

[ornate hamlet]

i been told 4 works

but ill check

[untold widget]

it had to be 6 for me

[severe folio]

im not sure if 4 work

[harsh urchin]

Iirc its currently hardcoded to 6

[severe folio]

but in most situation why would you juke yourself off 8%

[untold widget]

When I did it I made it to 299/300 with 6, so I figured 4 would be easier to maintain. I held 4 for a solid 15 minutes of a mission and was still at 299/300

[severe folio]

because you will mostly be in a highly active engagement zone and only having 16% damage up while you could be 24 is kind of rough

especially when you have to BB your elites

getting 2 extra warp charges should not be a pain if you have already acquire 4

[tardy stump]

i guess i did juke myself off of 8%

my psyker is only lv39 so i barely play psyker

just saw a build online and stick to it as it was good enough

didnt bother optimizing

[severe folio]

is that a purgatus build

[south spruce]

funi

[harsh urchin]

Build online is bad cuz this one takes wildfire

[slender radish]

grats

[harsh urchin]

Cut that node and take 6 warp charges

[tardy stump]

ye its purgatus

[severe folio]

you should follow Dis's advise

[tardy stump]

aright did that

anything else?

outside of wildfire

[harsh urchin]

I personally prefer bubble

[severe folio]

i personally would take soulstealer over quietude

[harsh urchin]

But its your personal preference

Which ulti to use

[severe folio]

but the build is mostly stable now

the rest is your preference

[tardy stump]

psyker steam guide thingy also mentiones using quell cancel lmbs with purgetus

which unless its slight animation cancel

idk what it means

but i find that barely minimal

[harsh urchin]

You don't need to worry about that sweaty shit

[severe folio]

someone should make a clip about quell cancel

is there a clip about it

[tardy stump]

what i saw happening while attempting it was with auto fire mod or whatever that hold left click to make semi-auto auto mod

held lmb and tapped r

right after it fired

[fresh halo]

Worth grabbing, Siblings ?

[tardy stump]

@severe folio unless its something else entirely?

[severe folio]

i dont think so

[fresh halo]

Noted. Thank you, Sibling !

[severe folio]

both blessing are meh

both perks are eh

actually

hmm

specialist perk isnt so bad

[tardy stump]

because it looked like it was barely canceling anything

[severe folio]

the specialist perk can help 1 shot mutant

[severe folio]

riposte isnt the best but, if you replace superiority with uncanny, elite with either mania or unyielding

then you may have a serviceable deimos ?

[fresh halo]

I already have this one

Although I'm unsure what blessing could replace Riposte

[harsh urchin]

This one is good

[severe folio]

Uncanny

[fresh halo]

I see

Noted !

Thank you, Siblings

[hollow heart]

Does Brain rupture work for completing Malleus Monstrum or just brain burst?

[severe folio]

Rupture works too

[untold niche]

whats the mod that remopves the screen effects again?

[severe folio]

what screen effect

[hollow heart]

thanks

[untold niche]

found it https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/17

[severe folio]

yes that one

[untold niche]

i found the peril effectr to be reall annoying

also darktide has in built vignette

which sucks

[severe folio]

maybe if i disable those my game will be less laggy

on another note i found a dreadnaught contemplator and warlord titan mod for AC6 lol

[untold niche]

armoured core 6?

i stopped playing that :(

[severe folio]

armored core 6

[untold niche]

felt like it was based on build rather than skill :v

oh yeah purg

urm

do you know what the psykler screen effect is called? disabled everything but i still have the high peril efffect
ok found it to be very badly named
"disable warp low to high"

[glacial socket]

hey what are some of the better blessings for dueling swords?

[hollow heart]

Does anyone know if the malleus monstronum penance works on the mini monsters?

[strong gulch]

There's a lot of info in the Atheneum in the pinned messages.

Uncanny strikes is the anchor / must have blessing. The others are more of what you get or preference.

Rampage makes hordes easier and can pump up damage but needs to cleave 3 which armor or less that 2 targets stops. Currently bugged; gets more power than the tooltip suggests.

Shred is easy to stack up and maintain without compromising your position but takes more time to stack up than riposte.

Riposte gets you the same crit chance as shred right away, but it requires dodges which can be compromising. There is a potential interaction between melee riposte buff also applying to ranged. It's what I've seen in the meat grinder, but further testing is needed. Even if it does, it's fiddly to set up.

[glacial socket]

thank you sibling!

[bright mica]

Yeah that's fantastic. Warp Res is your dump stat and maxed Riposte/Superiority is really cool although you probably want Slaughterer or Uncanny Strike in there. Elites is a good modifier that I'd keep.

[severe folio]

i dont think so

[severe folio]

warp low to high, i see

[severe folio]

thanks for your edit of the extended weapon customization

[bright mica]

My edit? You mean that zipfile?

Also sorry for calling you a nerd that other time you were caught in the crossfire

you have a fruity pfp... us fruity pfps should sow love not hate

[torn quarry]

best meele for psyker ?

[inland snow]

staff special action

[gloomy magnet]

punch

[severe folio]

i dont remember

[bright mica]

nvm dw it never happened

[severe folio]

yes the evil weapon customiztion

[bleak tulip]

[severe folio]

i get to put lasgun head onto the staff

and make it look like a comm box

[ornate hamlet]

A box for comming

[severe folio]

hopefully next time i can replace voidstrike head with a plasma gun too

[strong gulch]

Serious answer is that psyker has a few good options.

Force swords:

• Illisi for hordes
• Deimos for signle target

Non-force swords:

• MK 4 dueling sword

There are other good non-meta options too.

[bleak tulip]

some weirdos like knife but generally there isnt a ton of synergy with it on psyker

other than going fast I guess

[severe folio]

youll wake the mud wizard

[bleak tulip]

thats fine

[topaz willow]

Is voidstrike better with surge + nexus or flurry Ive tried both and they're both really good but I want opinions

[bleak tulip]

ill just give him the

[severe folio]

i think both option are fine

surge nexus more damage, slower charge

flurry faster charge

[bleak tulip]

ogryn player appeasement

[strong gulch]

I am pro knife.

[severe folio]

i think warp flurry goes even more fun with transfer peril

and then its a flurry transfer scrier

i still need to acquire a transfer peril

[bleak tulip]

surge nexus is the meta because with true aim you get so many free crits its not even funny

so you just literally ball

all over

who needs BPs when you just shoot many ball

[topaz willow]

Man I just really like voidstrike the damn popcorn sound effects when you smash into ahorde is so good

[echo island]

what do you guys think about flamethrower staff?

[bleak tulip]

worst staff nobody runs it

[severe folio]

What do you think I think

[echo island]

I feel like I could just do what it does better with voidstrike

[bleak tulip]

nah purg has infinite cleave

[echo island]

true but that primary is so.. yucky

[bleak tulip]

primary is mostly just for stagger

[strong gulch]

Purg is good. There are limitations to it that can be balanced with other things; like other staves.

Not as well rounded or generalist as trauma or void, but it's also not fiddly.

[severe folio]

purgatus is reserved for refined taste

the kinds that like medium rare

[echo island]

Sounds like elitism

[strong gulch]

Purg primary is great for stagger.

[orchid nest]

the primary on purg is excellent for the cc. it would feel really bad without it against ragers and maulers and stuff

[severe folio]

elitism is voidstrike

[strong gulch]

Bring back stagger on crushers.

[echo island]

voidstrike is generous and friendly to all levels

[fluid knot]

Gets 380 in Psyker shop....

Is Recon las

[severe folio]

not to level 10

[echo island]

purgatus is locked until level 15

[severe folio]

never said purgatus is more generous and friendly

[echo island]

primary on purgatus staggers ragers?

[severe folio]

yeah

[echo island]

on damnation ofc

damn

might just get it

[sinful olive]

I've played both a whole lot. Prefer flurry surge in general, it feels like more dps over time and feels more usable when you're getting pressured by enemies. However when I play with my group I like surge nexus more since we watch each others backs and it's easier to play it perfectly and avoid getting interrupted.

[severe folio]

it stagger everything except for crusher and monst

[orchid nest]

it staggers them and applies a stack of soulblaze so you stream them as they come in and then keep interrupting them

[echo island]

Voidstrike with surge deletes crushers

[severe folio]

revolver do that too

[orchid nest]

each one has its perks. purg is going to kill a horde of ragers much quicker because they will never be perfectly lined up

[sinful olive]

*surge nexus not flurry nexus though that one's okay too.

[severe folio]

beloved communication staff

[echo island]

yeah but it costs ammo

and the vet runs faster than I do

[topaz willow]

Voidstrike has alot of good builds its kind of hard to decide which one to choose. I'm probably going to have to play alot more games to choose which one im most comfortable with

[sinful olive]

My favorite is when a pack of 20 shotgunners melts to soulblaze from perilous combustion after the surge proc

[severe folio]

it cost enough, youll get it back

[gray jetty]

Not if you got scriers or DD

[echo island]

U ever tried that soulblaze on crit

[topaz willow]

@echo island is it good?

[severe folio]

damn look at how many staff melk got today

[burnt mulch]

mel are you okay

[echo island]

no I think surge is obv better but soulblaze stuffs have potential

[severe folio]

(they are all terrifying barrage and sustained fire)

[gray jetty]

The hell happened to your melk bucks

[strong gulch]

woah wtf. Melk usually has only axes and lasguns

[severe folio]

havent earn this week yet

but it doesnt matter, none of the staff have what i need

[topaz willow]

could be fun to run, ive got a whole stash of 370+ voidstrike staffs, I could try a soulblaze build to mix it up

[severe folio]

will get enough to buy the one when it show up

[radiant sleet]

Void + assail + shriek is fun IMO. Surge+nexus, make sure you have true aim and perilous

[severe folio]

goofy

damn melk have 3 voidstrike today and none of them have transfer peril

what a tragedy

[static needle]

Worth buying?

[gray jetty]

Its alright

Stat spread is nice but perks are kinda ass

[severe folio]

the mkvii only worry about maniac for perk

surgeon deadly accuracy for blessing

but im not sure if it will be an okay gun to play with

this is that single shot rifle

[gray jetty]

I prefer headhunter deadly accurate

Maniac unyielding

[static needle]

Someone told me that blast rad isnt that important for voidstrike. True or false?

[ornate hamlet]

telefone

average that hair + that mask enjoyer

[severe folio]

it feels like the most stable hair style

[severe folio]

true

[static needle]

really?

[severe folio]

yeah

it doesnt affect how big the voidball cleave

just affect the radius of the explosion after it hit surface

[static needle]

Bricked?

[gray jetty]

Not really

1 good blessing, 2 bad perks

[radiant sleet]

Depends what you get on the next consecrate. Could be salvageable if you roll something good

[gray jetty]

Its servicable

[static needle]

ok

[severe folio]

(its gonna be run and gun)

[willow hazel]

Even if you roll a bad 2nd blessing, it's still alright

[radiant sleet]

Yeah, my first void was surge/nexus 3, infested/crit and it still got the job done

[severe folio]

damn i wish that coat have gloves

[ornate hamlet]

I don't

Unless it's fingerless

Then I do

[severe folio]

crit perk voidstrike is fine

[radiant sleet]

Agree, I do flak/carapace now but crit chance works well

[severe folio]

i think flak is kinda redundant on voidstrike

voidstrike damage seem very even across the board except for carapace

[radiant sleet]

True I only went with flak because of how my staff rolled

Got kinda forced into keeping the flak

[severe folio]

oh i see

[vagrant frigate]

who is jimothy

dude is pretty good

[icy wyvern]

dude is SWEATING

[crude mulch]

Wonder what his loadout was

[fair rover]

days later and no surge, yippee

[icy wyvern]

believe it or not, knife/revolver

[severe folio]

how did you know

theres 3 jimothy in the server

[south gull]

is blaze mandatory on trauma staff?

[tiny swallow]

man i cant hit shit for fuck with the deimos force sword omg

[severe folio]

its not, its for a very specific trauma setup

[hushed pike]

Drip

[severe folio]

cripple leg

[hushed pike]

yep

[half iron]

my fave pants. not my fave variant tho

[hushed pike]

Full black cripple Krieg psyker.

[south gull]

not sure what to do with this tbh

[hushed pike]

I like this variant cause it matches the same underpants as the new psyker chest that came out last thursday

They aren't the same set the pants and chest, but match so good.

[half iron]

okay but it’s not the black/white pattern. it’s not cool enough

everything looks cool if you’re overdesigned

[hushed pike]

Krieg are overdesigned.

[shadow oar]

hello gamers, is chainsword good on psyker

ive got a basically perfect one from melk in the shop

[hushed pike]

I mean I'd say so.

Is it good yes? But the question is.. Is it BETTER than a force sword? I think that's up for debate.

[shadow oar]

thats my thought

i just have one in the shop thats very very good

also, uncanny/shred on dueling sword? ive got both level 4 in the shop

[hushed pike]

I think the one advantage Force Sword has over chainsword is being able to block ranged attacks.

[bleak tulip]

yes

[bleak tulip]

meh, the weapon itself is fine but you got better choices

[hushed pike]

If Force Swords couldn't block ranged attacks.

I'd say pick up chain sword.

But ranged attack force sword block w/ peril generation block perk

You can tank anything

[shadow oar]

hmmm

might as well buy both since ive got a metric fuckton from melk anyway

[hushed pike]

Yeah tbh I'd say the chainsword is better overrall aside from the Deflector perk you cna get on force swords.

Like I want to use a dueling sword on psyker..

But deflector is just SOOOOOOOOOOO good.

[willow hazel]

deflector isn't that good

[gray jetty]

Chains are good

Force swords are better

[willow hazel]

you can already avoid range damage by dodging

[gray jetty]

Like its not really even a contest

[hushed pike]

Deflector is that good.

[willow hazel]

It's better to just run 2 offensive blesssisngs

[untold niche]

ORITE

LEVEL 30

TIME TO START ROLLING

[hushed pike]

Can't be offensive if you're dead on the floor

[willow hazel]

cant take damage if the enemies are dead

[hushed pike]

Okay go melee that pack of scab gunners

lmk how it goes when they turn you into swiss cheese before getting into melee range

[willow hazel]

I mean the dueling sword and force swordss are pretty good at taking out gunnersss

[gray jetty]

I will, let me quickly just psykinetic assault them as I approach

Or suppress them with staff left clicks

Or smite

Or assail

[hushed pike]

Anything is good at taking out gunners if you get into melee range

[gray jetty]

Or shield

[hushed pike]

except with their high rof and pushback if you don't sneak up on them

you're not getting into melee.

[ornate hamlet]

For gunners you can LMB the staff and walk to them

[gray jetty]

I can, I have, and I will continue to do so without deflector

[hushed pike]

Idk I just only play Auric Maelstroms and there are just constant packs of 10+ gunners everywhere

[ornate hamlet]

Or assail, or BB, or smite and rush

[gray jetty]

Like yeah, staff LMB has such as stupid high supression

[hushed pike]

so having deflector for that

is good imo

[gray jetty]

Yes, I believe everyone here plays auric/maelstrom

[spice veldt]

if you want to go for a pure melee playstyle then yeah deflector is nice

[hushed pike]

I play a pretty cqc heavy psyker

with laspistol and force sword

I run smite though for those moments where CC is required

[spice veldt]

i usually just spam assail into gunners and whack them with melee if they're alive

since assail does stagger them

[untold niche]

BRICKEd

[gray jetty]

Its usable

Warp flurry surge

Flak maniac/carapace

[untold niche]

oh i didnt notice the flak

oh thanks

[gray jetty]

You're gonna need the guaranteed crit after 5 weakspot hits tho

For the consistent crits

[untold niche]

warp flurry surge? :v
but what about mah nexoos

wait i don't even have the other blessing

[gray jetty]

I'd say flurry and surge cause guaranteed crits is still workable

Oh

[untold niche]

i just started rolling

just hit 30

[gray jetty]

Oh

Swap the stamina to maniac or carapace

Swap barrage for really anything else

Until you get surge

[untold niche]

no surge

keep conscreting new weapon until i get surge?

[fading depot]

S2g

I just sandbagged so hard in an auric maelstrom I feel bad

Had a terrible game lmfao

[gray jetty]

If you have the resources, yeah

[zinc tartan]

If I can only take one, which talent is more important. Ethereal Shards or Quick Shards?

[gray jetty]

[ornate hamlet]

The pierce one

You don't need cooldown

[hushed pike]

This dueling sword any good?

[ornate hamlet]

Mk5 is a bit eh at the moment, but infested and rampage are nice

If a bit redundant with each other

[hushed pike]

I was mostly talking about stats.

And while I value Deflector force swords very high, if a good dueling sword appears in my shop I will use it instead.

Mainly cause there is a Krieg Saber skin in the shop rn

[ornate hamlet]

They're pretty nice

[gray jetty]

Its uh

I personally wouldn't take it, just cause the perk is pretty ass and the blessing is only tier 2

So you're relying on a good perk and blessing on upgrade just to salvage it

[zinc tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thanks-hey-bro-fist-bumb-gif-16262296206650437916

[half iron]

😭

[willow hazel]

probably ethereal

[soft osprey]

I’m at work but I was curious about possibly using melee as a Psyd er any advice?

[tawdry pasture]

can i suggest more cowbell

[carmine pollen]

yo gunkers what should i swap. I know dum dum is nice and I should swap for either flak or maniac but I don't know what to prioritize

[spice veldt]

keep deathspitter if you like to spam columnus into trash, keep fire frenzy otherwise

keep crit chance and reroll reload speed into something else

[carmine pollen]

aight bet thanks

[untold niche]

quick question
for psyker peril bonuses
i remember one is 83% instead of at 80%
Which one is it? the TDR node?

[spice veldt]

venting shriek; you deal 6 soulblaze stacks at 83.33% peril or higher

peril talents on the tree scale from 0% to 100% peril

it's only the blessings on weapons where you get stacks at 20/40/60/80% peril increments

[untold niche]

thanks, im taking note of this
<3

[mighty cipher]

Force sword is up to personal preference although I’d recommend Illisi since you can spam the charge swing really quickly to get the peril buffs. For staff I’d recommend Surge as it’ll help you deal with Crushers and bulwarks without getting aids. If you have stupid high block efficiency, you can stave off several gunners laying into your shield for a few seconds and anything that can’t go straight through it will do Jack shit. Use assail like a sniper rifle to pick off your DD mark since crit assail shards do a fucked amount of damage and can oneshot just about anything that isn’t a Rager or tougher on weak spot hits.

[untold niche]

mr arco

i realize the initial tick of quell takes very long

but the second tick is almost instant

its hard to quell only on e tick

[spice veldt]

it should be 250ms between each tick, including the first tick

beginning from when you first press down the quell key and to the first tick occurring

just quelling in general?

and with the True Peril mod?

[untold niche]

from press button to first tick vs from first tick to second tick compared is very long

[untold niche]

i have peril gauge

should i use true peril or peril gauge

or same

[spice veldt]

i use both

[spice veldt]

oh shhhhhhiiiiiit

[untold niche]

so can tell peril gauge is basically based off true peril

xd

[mighty cipher]

Oh, and H>L>H on the Illisi is just long enough that if you go to 100% from charging the sword you’ll start decaying peril after the last heavy. If you time it right you won’t even see the peril gauge drop and you still won’t explode.

[hasty breach]

salvageable?

[untold niche]

oh ya mr arco
admittedly i don't have surge, and also after upgrading my weapon there is a big difference,
but i feel like i won't ever be bale to play a5histg with psyker because he is so paper

[severe folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPx7GV_13o

warp magic

[spice veldt]

the quelling seems to be fine to me

[spice veldt]

my usual advice for survivability is to just spam dodges

don't bother playing reactively except to dodge the initial attack

just spam the dodge button

[untold niche]

i dodge while channeling and it doesn't even cover enough distance to not get hit \

[spice veldt]

dedicate as few brain cells to that activity besides waiting for the dodge refresh cooldown

and preferably dodge sideways instead of backwards against melee attacks

if you do not have the speed to physically move out of a melee enemy's range, dodge sideways and stick near them

the worst outcome is if they decide to initiate a running attack because you were at a certain distance away from them

[untold niche]

machine god is most generious
my ass. no surge still

[hasty breach]

no opinions on the surge staff?

[mighty cipher]

Oh, how does the dodge refresh work? I’ve been going purely off of instinct since I got the game and it’s been working out but I’d like to know numbers.

[crude mulch]

I rolled this recently, been having a lot of fun, other than stat mods not being 380 im not sure how id change it:

[spice veldt]

If you wait 0.85 seconds after a dodge, all of your dodges will come back

[wise pecan]

Carapace instead of flak?

[untold niche]

different weapon different, not sure about sprint slide tho
you can download numeric UI Mod to see how many dodge you have left
Imo its cheating but eh.

the only one i wouldn't go for is the health bar on elite/special mod

[spice veldt]

Dodging and sliding from a sprint will reset the dodge cooldown timer

NumericUI has an option to display your dodge cooldown timer as a debug option

[mighty cipher]

Mods? I play on console with a keyboard and mouse.

[spice veldt]

o

[hasty breach]

broken or worth keeping?

[mighty cipher]

That’s it???? No jank?

[spice veldt]

yeah it's a fairly simple system

i've got a neat visual for the dodges so i'll record something

[mighty cipher]

I’m genuinely surprised given the rest of the game

[spice veldt]

ikr

[mighty cipher]

The zealots have been arguing over TWBS for the last hour.

[spice veldt]

a demo of dodges with a neat UI https://streamable.com/9jflhz

the angle brackets represents my dodge count, and the white segment of hyphens is the dodge refresh timer

[severe folio]

why does your game has such a strange vibe

feels like im not looking at 40k

its like star wars

[spice veldt]

these graphics are refined and churned like butter

[severe folio]

oh its the graphic

oh god

[spice veldt]

hahaha

the dodge count that your weapon shows represents your "efficient" dodges, which are as they sound
once you go past that, you start dipping into your "inefficient" dodges which have a shorter distance and longer cooldown between them

[worn canopy]

What is that ui anyways

[zinc tartan]

Dude. The Maccabian Mk IV Duelling Sword. I put it off for far too long. That shit is lit as fuck.

[spice veldt]

i altered numericUI to display the dodge count like that

[mighty cipher]

I know about dodges in general. It was the refresh I knew nothing about.

[worn canopy]

How did you get the input on the bottom right

[spice veldt]

it's part of my OBS overlay

[worn canopy]

Not bad honestly. I’ve gone back to the warp swords

[spice veldt]

some addon that I installed

[worn canopy]

Ah

[spice veldt]

i initially downloaded it to show inputs for some recordings, but I have it around to check if the game did a bullshit moment on me

(answer: it was skill issue)

[mighty cipher]

82% block efficiency

[fading patrol]

What did you usr to show your kbm input on the lower right? Looks neat

Oh nvm answered above
Sounds like i have to fiddle with OBS again

[zinc tartan]

I was pretty much warp sword exclusive for the whole game. DSIV just feels so satistying. I can't go back.

[spice veldt]

I downloaded this https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/input-overlay.552/
I recall the installation process being a mild pain, and I had to tinker with a .json file to get the specific keys that I wanted on the screen

basically just deleting stuff until I got the result I needed

[worn canopy]

Correct.

[untold niche]

i can carry damn, but i can't imagine a5histg where probably half my shots won't reach my DD targets just because of the amount of specials/elite blocking the shot

[bleak tulip]

arcos eyes are weak and he has to soften the games visuals

[spice veldt]

i'm seasoning my eyes

[untold niche]

you can use nohboard

[untold niche]

then have it as a window

[bleak tulip]

apply hot sauce directly to the retina

[untold niche]

hold on let me show u

[half iron]

my eyes strong enout to stare into the sun and/or old smite vfx

[mighty cipher]

I got zealot for satisfying melee play. Ahem…..
OVERHEADOVERHEADOVERHEADOVERHEADOVERHEADOVERHEADOVERHEADOVERHEAD

[mighty cipher]

What weapon?

[untold niche]

im running voidstrike staff, crit build
ventring shriek with DD

[mighty cipher]

Voidstirke could cleave through a fucking continent how is hitting your marks a problem?

[untold niche]

uh, it explodes if it doesn't kill the guy?

so if your mark is behind a bulwark or 5 ragers

[severe folio]

it also dont have infinite cleave

[spice veldt]

mk4 dealing >40% more damage on heavies than the other duelling swords certainly adds to the satisfaction

[untold niche]

yeah it has 7 i think (on zombie)

[severe folio]

and the cleave does depend on the mass

it should be 7 but its actually has been flucuating

[mighty cipher]

Assail I’m assuming?

[spice veldt]

vstrike has 12 cleave, if they haven't fixed it to 10

groaners have 1.25 hitmass, and poxwalkers 1.5

[severe folio]

fluctuating

[spice veldt]

the cleave also gets scaled by how charged it is

[severe folio]

does voidstrike have damage fall off by range

it doesnt right ?

[mighty cipher]

I doubt it

[bleak tulip]

no

[severe folio]

okay

does it have cleave fall off by range

[bleak tulip]

no

[severe folio]

okay

[fading patrol]

Idk ive spent like 30 mins figuring out obs, gave up and go back to adrenaline for recording gameplay
My patience growing thin these days with all my work stuff screaming 'must be done ASAP' and several other rl stuff

[untold niche]

but yeah purg, voidstrike and arco
how do you hit marks in a5histg :v

on topic of marks, they should make it so it tags people you have LOS to at least, my opininon :v

[bleak tulip]

marks?

[untold niche]

i figured it out in 30 minutes :v
just gogol the stuff, don't try

[untold niche]

disrupt destiny

[mighty cipher]

Disrupt destiny

[untold niche]

targets

[bleak tulip]

oh

idk I dont worry about it and just let the cleave do it in hordes

[mighty cipher]

Just spam in the direction of your mark. You’ll hit him eventually.

[bleak tulip]

when moving there might be roamers around, I sometimes stab em

[untold niche]

vulkan you played a5histg rite

[mighty cipher]

Yes

[severe folio]

there isnt a lot of way around that

[bleak tulip]

like 3 bruisers just standing around, stab each as they get marked

[severe folio]

this is when you just have to keep shooting

[untold niche]

im surey ou know like 3 bulwarks and 5 ragers is common :(

;-;

[severe folio]

yeah

[untold niche]

then your mark is way behind that

[severe folio]

well destiny ordained

[mighty cipher]

I have over 250 missions done on psyker as of now, most of which was on damnation

[severe folio]

thats just when your mark will switch to another enemy

or you have no precourse

[spice veldt]

the timer on DD refreshes if you interact with the marked target (staggering and damaging), assuming that the mechanic works properly now

it worked the recent time that I noticed it

[untold niche]

i feel damnation and auric damnation histg is very very different

[mighty cipher]

It refreshes on kill

[spice veldt]

so if nothing else, you can try to dink your target with something

[spice veldt]

it also refreshes on interaction

[untold niche]

OH LEGIT?

[severe folio]

yeah well

[bleak tulip]

yeah the only funny stuff I see is if you enter a room and see shit spawning in, sometimes the mark moves like 3-4 times before settling

[spice veldt]

or well, it should

[severe folio]

what else are you gonna interact with them beside voidstrike

[mighty cipher]

So it’s even easier than I thought?

[spice veldt]

I know that it works for certain against bruisers

[severe folio]

so it really is still

shoot it till it dead

[spice veldt]

i forgor to test it against tougher enemies

[untold niche]

@bleak tulip do you run DD or WS

[bleak tulip]

dd

[spice veldt]

yeah, just that in patch 14, that refresh mechanic was really inconsistent

[severe folio]

I DD too

[untold niche]

i see.

[bleak tulip]

WS is fine too tho

[mighty cipher]

Huh, nice game fartshart

[untold niche]

for sure the thresholds will be higher right

[bleak tulip]

no strong preference besides WS taking more talent points

?

[severe folio]

what threshold ?

[bleak tulip]

its mostly that you want vampire for WS to get charges back faster which means you spend an extra talent point

and I have recently fallen in love with quietide again

[untold niche]

ARCO YUOU ARE RIGHT
DONT EVEN NEED TO STAGGER

[bleak tulip]

so thats where my comfy point goes

[untold niche]

breakpoints on like elites/specials

[severe folio]

oh

ehh

yeah

[untold niche]

what is vampire

[bleak tulip]

kinda? its about the same damage you just lack the weakspot

[severe folio]

4% chance to warp charge on ally kills

[bleak tulip]

second last WS talent

[mighty cipher]

Dawg just get 30 stacks, headshot with either a voidball or crit shard and watch it die.

[untold niche]

isn't it pretty easy to gain WS charge anyway
pretty much full charge your shot and the gunner or flamer will die

[bleak tulip]

its not really a must have on hishock at all but without it it feels less reliable to get charges if your team arent crappy

[severe folio]

your ally can kill just as easily

and ally can kill anything to give you warp charge

[bleak tulip]

aka "you arent killing every special and elite yourself"

[mighty cipher]

Slap on 30 stacks of precog scier’s gaze and watch the staff atomize a reaper or bulwark in one shot.

[bleak tulip]

maybe when they fix the CDR aura I might wanna go back to WS but I kinda doubt it

as it stands 20s is plenty fast

[cosmic sigil]

the cdr aura is bugged?

[untold niche]

i tried running gaze DD, not worth
not having vent means you have no panic button when 3 crushers get in your face with a horde right on you

[cosmic sigil]

oO

[bleak tulip]

yeah its 17.5% instead of 10

or whatever it says

[severe folio]

so its higher than its supposed description

[cosmic sigil]

so good?

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[severe folio]

heh

[bleak tulip]

puts vent to like 23 on its own I think?

[severe folio]

fat finger wins again

[untold niche]

vs, purge and arco, you guys ever tried DD gaze?

with staff

not gunker

[severe folio]

yeh DD gaze is very common

with staff

no not yet

[spice veldt]

i run VS and purg with DD, but I don't use gaze optimality-wise

[severe folio]

i want a transfer peril voidstrike before i do that

[bleak tulip]

I think I ran staff gaze when 13 came out, it sucked

[spice veldt]

I'm too lazy to manage my peril, and the benefit is fairly eh

[severe folio]

huh why you purg with DD

[bleak tulip]

and I even ran a TP void

[mighty cipher]

Yeah, its my assail build.

[untold niche]

is transfer peril per shot or if your 1 shot hit 5 weakspot it will quell 5 times

[severe folio]

im not really sure but i know it quell a lot

[spice veldt]

I always path down the right side, and I dislike going down the warp siphon branch or taking EP, so DD is what I pick

[severe folio]

so its mayb its not quell 5 time but its def more than 1

[bleak tulip]

I think the latter, not super sure actually

[spice veldt]

I'd go left-side with purg optimality-wise, but that's not a playstyle I like

[severe folio]

no weakspot on purg though

[bleak tulip]

it does a lot sometimes

[spice veldt]

i just bring purg to kill hordes and get rid of the annoying enemies and just play assail + melee otherwise

[untold niche]

oh so mainly uise assail to kill?

also only at level 30 that i found out smite has a right click that does way more.
I keep thinking people can do that because of EP

[severe folio]

i see

[mighty cipher]

Yes and no, since they nerfed the CD on assail AGAIN you have to alternate between staff and assail for you to play efficiently.

[bleak tulip]

I wish

thats how it should work

[lunar hollow]

assail should still only be 5 charges

[bleak tulip]

josho has been summoned by the ass ail

[mighty cipher]

I think assail is currently balanced at specifically high difficulties. It still nukes lower ones though.

[lunar hollow]

my thing is like, u get a bunch of throwing knives on zealot because the weapon basically requires headshots to be effective

assail is auto-aim

super easy to use

[spice veldt]

and 10 max shards to burst through

[untold niche]

smite max targets is like 11?

[lunar hollow]

regenerates with a less strict condition

[spice veldt]

i'd preferably nerf it down to 3 to force people to actually weapon swap

[lunar hollow]

so if u want to keep those other 2 factors, it should have less availability

[spice veldt]

and to make people realize that shards benefits from active perks and blessings of your held weapon

[lunar hollow]

i feel like 5 is a good number for allowing you a bit of breathing room

[spice veldt]

i suppose

[mighty cipher]

It fucken what?

[bleak tulip]

[lunar hollow]

assail has a really cool niche of being a weapon you swap to in order to mitigate a stupid positioning fuck-up so you can keep being aggressive

[bleak tulip]

case in point

[spice veldt]

in general, the perks and blessings of your held weapon apply to all damage sources that come from you

[lunar hollow]

i feel like only 3 shards kind of removes that

whereas 5 allows u to use it that way and not immediately be out

[spice veldt]

hmm yeah as a safety thing

but eh

[lunar hollow]

i dont want assail to be the ELITE GAMER PSYKER QUICKSWAP blitz

[spice veldt]

I just dislike the prospect of assail being spammable in any way

[lunar hollow]

it has to be more widely usable

[bleak tulip]

wish it would just come out when you press the button instead of being a whole stance so I dont have to APM king every time I wanna shard on something

[spice veldt]

maybe as an upgrade

[lunar hollow]

but the best™️ way shouldnt be fuckin spamming it

[spice veldt]

instead of the upgrade node being reduced regen timer, it'd be increased max shards

and then elite pro gamers can just skip that upgrade

[mighty cipher]

That would actually be fucking awesome

[untold niche]

why not :v

[lunar hollow]

because u have to make talent tree options usable for most players

and only 3 assail shards is kinda pushing it into the realm of irrelevance

[lunar hollow]

it has to be this way so a full right side gunker can quell

😔

[bleak tulip]

skill issue

[lunar hollow]

fundamental limitation of the class

[severe folio]

huh

[untold niche]

wait whats the quickswap for
i never used assail

[bleak tulip]

shrimply proc bat med

[severe folio]

assail being thrown like zealot knife

not a bad idea

i would like that

[untold niche]

or yo ujsut mean

literally to use assail

[bleak tulip]

its never gonna happen but it would be dope

[mighty cipher]

I would become sloppenheimer if someone at fatshark would give any weapon the ability to quell.

[untold niche]

i ahve to swap to assail

[spice veldt]

quickswap is just the general ideal of swapping to a weapon and then swapping back to another

[lunar hollow]

the thing about assail it it basically functions as a 3rd weapon rather than a proper blitz

so balancing it is a little more annoying

[spice veldt]

assail has the benefit of having a very small active time cost--it only takes 0.2s (first shard) and 0.33s (second shard) for each shard to come out, and the shards can be "aimed" while holding your other weapons

[untold niche]

yeye i was asking if it makes it faster or something
if i understand correctly its because psyker nades you need to hold it out, which is what josho is saying. to use it need to swap to it

[lunar hollow]

in other news they need to make the shard damage scale with difficulty

[spice veldt]

and most of the time cost is just passive in the form of you waiting for it to regenerate

and you can just go use another weapon in the meantime

[lunar hollow]

imagine if EP gave you another way to regenerate it

instead of the stupid shit it does rn

[bleak tulip]

whens the quickswap macro mod for it

we cant all be apm kings like arco

😔

[mighty cipher]

YES! I’ve been thinking about this since they started nuking it.

[untold niche]

toughness max is 16 right foir curio

[mighty cipher]

17

[lyric burrow]

17

[untold niche]

i hate how long weapons take to draw

[lunar hollow]

i love playing psyker as a super high apm class where ur existence depends on mashing keys as fast as possible

which is why i play ds4/laspistol/assail

[untold niche]

thanks so
go for 16?
i can only see a 15 one now ion my shop

[lunar hollow]

despite what some people will tell u about gunpsykers i am in fact winning games

[lyric burrow]

This is the only way to play

[bleak tulip]

no way

[mighty cipher]

Mr. Milk is your best friend for curios.

[bleak tulip]

idk but gunker just makes me cring

[untold niche]

so what assail for cara annd lasp for everything else?
how you even hjorde clear mr josho

[lunar hollow]

assail is the horde clear

laspistol for shooting stuff

[untold niche]

ds4 for cara?

[lunar hollow]

ds for stabbing anything

[untold niche]

and running

[compact bluff]

funnily enough a quickswap macro mod could, if not set properly, literally just delete your shards since there's like a 1 frame window when throwing a shard, that swapping will instantly delete it

[lunar hollow]

i get top melee/ranged damage fairly often

ds4 is a generalist elite-special deleter so it fights anything well

[mighty cipher]

I will not accept any gun psyker slander. If that shit ain’t working for you that’s genuinely a skill issue. DD is one of the strongest buffs in the game and NOBODY talks about it.

[lunar hollow]

laspistol also good at shooting most targets so i have a lot of leeway

[lunar hollow]

dude

gunker is one of the highest dps classes possible

with INSANE toughness regen

[mighty cipher]

Exactly

[bleak tulip]

you fuckers are gonna get my true aim nerfed

[mighty cipher]

I don’t think I’ll get nerfed

[spice veldt]

don't worry we'll only get mettle nerfed

[lunar hollow]

dont u dare

[lyric burrow]

The only psyker build i do more damage with is blazing trauma on melee maelstrom

[lunar hollow]

i fuckin hate most blaze/trauma users

[spice veldt]

guns are so nice for my greedy ass

[lunar hollow]

cannot stand em

[mighty cipher]

It’s at the bottom of the tree and pretty deep into a side path too.

[severe folio]

why do you hate them

[lunar hollow]

i played with this total dipshit once who kept hiding backwards to fight hordes behind the rest of the team to farm damage

and it was super obvious

[severe folio]

well thats what people who take blaze trauma do

[mighty cipher]

Blaze Trauma?

[severe folio]

you ask any of them and theyll tell you how effective it is by looking at the damage they deslt

[lunar hollow]

blaze trauma works super well if ur team doesn't kill stuff

[mighty cipher]

The fuck is blaze trauma?

[lunar hollow]

i don't feel its effectiveness scales that well with people of equal skill on different loadouts

[lyric burrow]

It isnt bad it just usually blinds everyone if you use it on melee enemies

[lunar hollow]

blazing spirit/warp nexus trauma

[lyric burrow]

I use it in pubs for a reason

[bleak tulip]

be honest youre just mad the crushers keep falling over making you miss

[severe folio]

i think its fishing for damage by burning everything but the killing only actually happen after the teammate kill something

[mighty cipher]

Ah, I just blind you with the purgatus staff like a civilized person.

[severe folio]

and that it bounce enemies around for other to hit

[lunar hollow]

i couldnt give a fuck about killin crushers its the people who do dumb shit trying to farm damage that annoys me like pls

just get in the elevator

i wanna get this over with i need the plasteel

[untold niche]

wait isn't that what im supposed to do on psyker :v

[lunar hollow]

ur not supposed to do that on any class

the name of the game is hold w

[manic halo]

does rending shockwave only go up to level 3?

[lunar hollow]

it's in the fine print under "DARKTIDE"

[untold niche]

i hold w i get hit :v

[lunar hollow]

it goes up to t4

[untold niche]

on psyker

[manic halo]

ok thanks

[untold niche]

on zealot its fine

[lunar hollow]

u just

[manic halo]

on staf