psyker-class

[fading depot]

I don't want to piss someone off that might end up bring my teammate in the future

[untold niche]

also anyone have any tips

[fluid knot]

I just try to be polite an say stuff like "no offence man, but i dont think you're ready for this setting"

[frigid zenith]

It's a basic thing to do, you get people that are so used to clearing an area then moving, the hordes come so fast sometimes that's not an option. Have to keep moving or you'll just get bogged down.

[fading depot]

Does this happen?

I don't look at people's gear

Maybe I should 💀

[fluid knot]

Keep not looking at it, you'll give yourself a headache

[untold niche]

dumb quesiton but you going to move into patrol and still need kill horde

why not just kill horde firtst

[frigid zenith]

That's how I normally am, but man, sometimes you just have to wonder what decisions that person made in their life to lead them to think they belonged in damnnation+.

[fading depot]

Oh lord

[untold niche]

likely they got bored

[ornate hamlet]

xD This time I am, Plaugryn knocked me into a DH and then multi crushers rushed us

[fading depot]

Best way to get better is to dive into the deep end of the pool imo

[ornate hamlet]

XD

[fluid knot]

It is a bit like that, though i do sympathise with them a bit because the game really does not make it clear how much of a step up it really is

[frigid zenith]

After a certain point, hordes are nothing, your moving from patrol to patrol or elite horde to elite horde, the normal hordes are basically nothing.

[fading depot]

But it only works if you take advice and get an idea for what you should be doing b4hand

[ornate hamlet]

A fire psy with hateshards op for horde cleaning

[fluid knot]

An like people say "Yo Auric is much harder" but people are bullheaded an go "oh yeah? I bet its not" then, ofc, they get facerolled

[fading depot]

My shard build is shards for ragers/elites and flames for trash

Dueling sword for armored

[frigid zenith]

Some of the builds people bring into AM missions also have no business in AM missions. Please don't bring in your super specialized melee build that get dunked by anything ranged into a pug.

[fluid knot]

No, i will bring the most ridiculous shit i can think of and you cant stop me

[frigid zenith]

Play that shit with your friends when you know your weakness is covered.

[fluid knot]

In all seriousness though, test builds in A.Damn if you're very much an endgame player, an then see if it works in Malestrom, dont go straight into the latter

[frigid zenith]

There's only room for one melee space wizard in the group, and that's me.

[fluid knot]

I've been playing one of those myself of late, is a lot of fun

[severe folio]

im not sure if a dueling sword will be fine with a surge staff, they both seem to do the same job

[frigid zenith]

poke poke poke poke poke

[quasi junco]

Yes, I noped out of there lol

[fluid knot]

Purga DoTs an Bleed DoTs, its kinda wack, but challenging and interesting to play

Have to swap every couple seconds tho, so intensive

[frigid zenith]

Gotta being a meme revolver with your dueling sword for max coolness factor.

Then just kill everything with assail.

[fluid knot]

Ngl, pretty excited to try the new revo on Psyker

Should be pretty decent with Trickshooter given its rapid-fire

[frigid zenith]

The greatness of the revolver is it's one shot capabilities.

[zenith zealot]

finally, true cowboy psyker

[fluid knot]

New one might have a speedloader if we're lucky tho which would make it have hella high DPS

[severe folio]

i hope it has a lot of ammo

[frigid zenith]

We can all live out our Hunt: Showdown fanning dreams.

[fluid knot]

Its gonna have to, dont wanna have to rely on Survivalist for it to be viable

[zenith zealot]

if my eyes arent playing tricks on me when i was watching the video, pretty sure it does

[vale nacelle]

Stat rerolling for diamantine when.

[fluid knot]

I didnt notice in the trailer tbh, but if so, excellent

[quasi junco]

I played with a cracked revolver vet yesterday on auric damn. Glad I didn’t go void…

[zenith zealot]

and with the speedloader, means that reload modifier might be replaced with ammo

[fluid knot]

Be interesting to find out

Think combat knife and revo are gonna be the most interesting this patch

[frigid zenith]

I don't know why there aren't more revolver vets, that shits busted. Some youtuber probably needs to make a video about it before anyone will pay attention

[fluid knot]

I'd like to think that people dont listen to the bigger DT youtubers, but thats likely wishful thinking

The smaller ones have their shit together an deserve way more subs than they have

[glossy ember]

oh we getting a new combat knife?

[zenith zealot]

speedloader confirmed

rejoice my brethren

[quasi junco]

lol

[fluid knot]

Oh nice, hell yeah

[zenith zealot]

but probs gotta empty out your rounds first

[severe folio]

its gonna deal 1/5 the damage of the current revolver

[zenith zealot]

i pray it doesnt

[severe folio]

gotta unload all 5 shots to deal the same damage of 1 bullet

well to be honest

its stat gonna be untested

so we will be the first testers

[zenith zealot]

true

[severe folio]

its gonna either

too borked

[zenith zealot]

i'd say if they lower its dmg to 3/5 of the current revolver, i'd say its golden

[severe folio]

or too high

[zenith zealot]

unless it doesnt have its reload modifier set to ammo

[plucky flax]

Youtuber with fancy thumbnails and sub par gameplays whom only play with a squad. They also make these crazy 'names' for their builds.

[fluid knot]

I doubt it'll be that drastic

[plucky flax]

Check out this "Ultimate Annihilator Combustor" build.

Or whatever.

[fluid knot]

It'll deffo be lower per-shot, but not a fifth of the damage

[vestal fulcrum]

They should instead give their videos titles such as “look at this terrible performance, FS better buff blaze trauma”

[plucky flax]

Yes pls blaze trauma buff.

I like chocob cos he seems to only play solo.

Some of his builds are definitely goofy though.

Telepot is a good player but he only plays with premade.

[fluid knot]

Its dudes like Asian Robot an Claythetics which get on my tits

[zenith zealot]

never heard of them

[fading depot]

My favorite is Jay-Brodi

[fluid knot]

Couldnt give a fuck if people play with premades, but i do start to give a fuck when they start spreading disinformation/have no idea what they're talking about

[vale nacelle]

Day 10 of farming for blaze trauma. No end in sight.

[plucky flax]

I know who you're referring to. I got recommendation on my feed although their builds are some weird stuff indeed.

[fluid knot]

They're just gibberish honestly

Its a shame because both of them have rather large followings

An people wonder why reddit an steam are full of such drivel

[plucky flax]

One of them is like weakspot damage simp innit?

[plucky flax]

It's bad play rending shockwave instead.

[fluid knot]

Pass, i watched like one of both thier videos and was like "yeah this guy is just talking shit" and moved on

[vale nacelle]

But muh pretty fire memes

(Said by someone who has nexus and rending 4 available)

[fresh reef]

Back when darktide first released, Asian Robot dubbed himself "the king of psykers" or some shit

[ornate hamlet]

Thank god

[plucky flax]

Is he stronger than top 1% god psyker?

[zenith zealot]

weakspot dmg is overrated in most cases ngl

[fresh reef]

Idk I can't stand his content

[zenith zealot]

especially with how weakspot dmg actually works

[plucky flax]

Lemme check his psyker gameplay.

[zenith zealot]

still dk why they'd make it work like that

[fresh reef]

Dude has such a smug/cocky asshole vibe that I never make it past the build showcase in the psykhanium

[fluid knot]

Enjoy the cringe-fest you're about to experience

[plucky flax]

His smite surge build is with ep.

[fluid knot]

Sounds about right

[fresh reef]

Comedy

[plucky flax]

Wait wtf there's no actual gameplay.

It's just meatgrinder stuff.

[fresh reef]

Please tell me he attempts to use it for horde clear

[fading depot]

Bro missed the part where infinite smite was removed

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

Smite has 15m range by default and the "max jumps" node buffs it to 16m. It does also increase the max jumps from 4 to 5 (or something like that). In testing the +1 jump makes a bigger difference than just one additional enemy but it's hard to notice the difference in actual gameplay due to the forking rules

[fading depot]

I run with shriek siphon and smite, dueling sword and surge tho I'm gonna go back to knife

[zenith zealot]

sure he wasnt abusing the bug where smite EP is applied to surge?

[fading depot]

Oh maybe he is doing that

[zenith zealot]

shriek EP smite or shriek siphon, think both are fine, the former is faster at horde clear and easier to reach its maximum potential, the latter requires sometime to actually bring out its full value

tho i dont really run smite anymore

[plucky flax]

He doesn't have actual gameplay so I dunno how he uses his smite. But for my own case I don't use smite that much so warp charges offer much more for me with the ability to spam creeping flames much more frequently.

[zenith zealot]

i still hate the fact that u're forced to lose warp charges when using abilities

that shxt was optional back then

[plucky flax]

Illisi Surge Smite maelstrom clutch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G4_cXz19XM

[fading depot]

My main use for it is the control

[zenith zealot]

then ofc u'd opt for siphon

lately i've been more liberal with the shrieks even when using siphon

[fading depot]

Same

I always shriek

The soul blaze is how you clear out all the trash without quelling

[zenith zealot]

yea, its just, like, MY FKING CHARGES MAN

[dim parrot]

feel that 100%

[zenith zealot]

why is there another Lion El'Jonson at strike team 10

[fading depot]

Cool character

[zenith zealot]

u two gotta battle to the death

[fading depot]

I got the 4% on any kill for a charge

[zenith zealot]

yea, same here

[fading depot]

The charges help but I don't play around them

They just help delay my peril generation

Shriek more often

[plucky flax]

He saw the light of blaze trauma

[zenith zealot]

yea rending shockwave is more of a supportive blessing

it helps more with teammates with guns or blades

not psykers with staves

[plucky flax]

I don't rely on my team.

Always be selfish in war..

[zenith zealot]

u do u

[fading depot]

I'm the opposite

At least on psy

[dim parrot]

fr

[fading depot]

Pure support mostly

[dim parrot]

im a good mix I guess

but if the team sucks, fuck em

[plucky flax]

If someone is down I won't go out of my way to try to ress them and potentially risk dying myself.

Safer to clutch it through and rescue at the spawn point for me.

[dim parrot]

I will if its safe

[quartz barn]

I usually peel for the rez instead

[plucky flax]

Yeah if it's completely safe but I won't drop everything to attempt to ress.

[dim parrot]

one things I cant stand tho if I get damage for something that wasn't meant for me

[quartz barn]

If i go myself ill take a bunch of dmg cuz scuffed teammates and ruin my score xd

[vale nacelle]

I’d be rich if I had a dime for every person left on the ground while the whole screen is smited.

[fading depot]

Gotta give direct

[zenith zealot]

🥲

[fading depot]

I've found saying 'hey pick them up I've got everything leashed' works

Otherwise everyone tunnels for kills

[quartz barn]

However when people get netted or dogged im always the firdt to help

[vale nacelle]

Tru, big red downed symbol and lighting filling the screen isn’t enough.

[zenith zealot]

decent staff, shxt rolls

[quartz barn]

Atleast you can just sprint in, unnet and then dash out easily with DS

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah netted or dogged I help quickly cos those are easy.

[quartz barn]

Tell that to everyone else tho

[zenith zealot]

when they are netted after charging in alone however..

[plucky flax]

Tbf trappers are super spooky these days.

[quartz barn]

Mfw i get picked up while in fire

[plucky flax]

You can't hear them most of the time.

[quartz barn]

I always panic dodge

[zenith zealot]

u can hear when they shoot

[quartz barn]

Right in the net lmao

[zenith zealot]

and i basically develop a reflex that makes me dodge whenever i hear them prepare to shoot their net

[quartz barn]

^

[fading depot]

100% requirement for a smite psyker

Got that fuckin blind zone behind you and nobody ever covers u from the specials

[quartz barn]

Literally required for everyone

[plucky flax]

I'm quite proud of this one despite the end. The first clip was pretty good clutch tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ybSD2PUXNQ

[zenith zealot]

i still remember when i abused infinite smite psyker for the first time

just literally permanently crabwalking all the time to keep smite up

[fading depot]

It was funny but it got old

I definitely fucked with it but I felt awkward doing it lol

[zenith zealot]

im just gonna speak my mind, even tho im not there, but im fairly sure u have quite some time to just nail that chaos in the back with your columnus

and that might've prevented everyone from going down in the first place

[plucky flax]

Hrm I was dealing with the specials.

[zenith zealot]

yea i do notice

but what i meant was instead of hitting that chaos with your sword, using up your ammo might've been wiser

but idk, im not there, so just take whatever i say with a grain of salt, or just dont take it at all

[plucky flax]

Aye I don't like to waste ammo. It felt safe for 1s but then suddenly they all go down.

[zenith zealot]

pretty god tier gameplay nonetheless

[zenith zealot]

personally i'd dump clips on bosses

[fading depot]

I'm trying to 100% this game but it's gonna take so long 😩

[plucky flax]

I never do unless it's a range weapon design for boss killing like adhesive rumbler or burn gunlugger stuff.

Ammo saving

[zenith zealot]

so u dont have raking fire dumdum is what u're saying

or u just dont think columnus is a weapon designed for boss killing?

[plucky flax]

I don't use raking fire.

[zenith zealot]

gotcha

[fading depot]

I thought Colum was for elites

[zenith zealot]

it is pretty conditional

[zenith zealot]

as a gun psyker i find it to be a pretty good boss killer

[glossy ember]

thumbnail looks like a fnaf jumpscare

[zenith zealot]

but that's probably cuz psykers dont have better source of boss dmg

columnus is probs the fastest boss killing weapon for psykers

[glossy ember]

surge is an ok source of boss damage now

[plucky flax]

Surge is actually quite decent indeed.

[fluid knot]

That bleed/purga build i was talking about earlier isnt bad actually

[zenith zealot]

after the changes or during the time EP was applicable to it, yes

[fluid knot]

Certainly good enough

[zenith zealot]

i assume u use knife for bleed?

[plucky flax]

You can always bring combat knife as melee weapon for monster damage.

[fluid knot]

Yessir

[plucky flax]

But muh illisi

[fluid knot]

DoT stack build

[glossy ember]

knife lets you become a hoverboard whenever you slide dodge though...

[zenith zealot]

yea i've seen what double dot can do vs crushers

sounding like trick2g rn if u even know this LoL player

problem with knife for me is that i dont have a good pc, frames can get fked up, so knife will be hard to use

[fluid knot]

I dont know a damn thing about LoL other than the playerbase is awfully toxic

[zenith zealot]

awyeah

100%

and the devs are making shxtty changes as we speak

[fluid knot]

Aye thats fair, a consistent framerate is gonna effect it somewhat

[zenith zealot]

yea plus the fact that its range is short af

both combined, u got a combo for missing vital points with the knife

[fluid knot]

Ye, easy to circumvent that with purga tho, spray LMB at stuff, stagger it, gives you the room to shank it a few times, rinse an repeat

[fading depot]

I'd psyknife any actual good for damage?

I just use it for mobility

[glossy ember]

unironically yeah

[plucky flax]

Moment before disaster.

[glossy ember]

spam push attack

that shit obliterates single targets

[echo turtle]

Columnus boss damage is wild if you are running some of the right hand skills

[fading depot]

Really? What kinda blessings/perks should I be looking for?

[zenith zealot]

that's what i run

[glossy ember]

uncanny strike + blessing

usually bleed

[zenith zealot]

definitely lacerate/flesh tearer

[glossy ember]

i use uh

[fading depot]

I have a shitty 460 knife because I'd just use it to get somewhere fast

[glossy ember]

maniacs and unarmoured (cuz i had no choice on unarmoured)

[plucky flax]

I was on zealot.

[zenith zealot]

lacerate's kinda annoying cuz u cant hit weakspot to proc it

[glossy ember]

yeah

well i'm like its w/e

i won't hit weakspot all the time anyway

and it's nice on hordes

[zenith zealot]

yea, zealot has many better options for boss dmg anyway

[plucky flax]

I was testing a build and I got the most sus teammates.

[fading depot]

The Chaos spawn seeing my 5 martystack thunder hammer zealot shroudfield behind him

[zenith zealot]

they all got cornered in fire and fell down edge

[plucky flax]

On my regular stealth loner martyrdom antax I am 100% confident I could have clutched the end.

[zenith zealot]

very shxtty positioning

[zenith zealot]

that does look disgusting

[fading depot]

I can one shot any boss or DH from 100% with some Marty stacks

[zenith zealot]

a hammer fitting of your name

[glossy ember]

this is my knoife, it 3 hits ragers on weakpoint with 6 warp siphons lol

[zenith zealot]

personally, i'd never use knife for ragers

regardless of how strong it is

unless i can oneshot or stagger them with the weapon, i'd never use it vs ragers

fk ragers

[plucky flax]

Yeah usually I prefer to range ragers.

They are too scary in melee.

[zenith zealot]

oh yea right, u have punch heavy stab with knife right?

[fading depot]

A single ranger is never the worry

[zenith zealot]

does the punch stagger ragers?

[glossy ember]

887 dps on crushers with knife and 1200-1800 dps on ragers if I crit once

[fading depot]

It's when theres like 7 that it's an issue

[glossy ember]

but i don't delibirately go on ragers to melee them

i usually zap em

[fading depot]

That's what kills my zealot the most and why ai like smite so much

[glossy ember]

it's just an emergency tool

[plucky flax]

That's when I'm like team..??

[glossy ember]

i mainly use knife for mobility

my first match with knife + surge staff + assail

[plucky flax]

Hab dreyko end event when the ragers gang drop on yo ass

[wise ruin]

so if i buy this for the uncany strike 4, can i use it on deimos and illisi?

[zenith zealot]

yes

do it

[glossy ember]

why did you eat your crop

[zenith zealot]

its worth it

[fading depot]

Does that happen?

[plucky flax]

I can't swap out deflector and slaughterer on mine. It's safe and good damage.

[fading depot]

[cosmic sigil]

Except with a claw, then it's payback time.

[wise ruin]

cuz i main ogryn

[glossy ember]

understandable

[plucky flax]

Yeah end event of hab dreyko is super crazy in high intensity and above.

[zenith zealot]

personally i wouldnt judge him by his level

[fading depot]

That's me

[plucky flax]

10 ragers will randomly appear from one of those tiny tunnel.

[fading depot]

With the 250 hab dreykos finished frame

[zenith zealot]

oh

[eager mantle]

Had a recent game where I played like ass on my gunker, died twice but when I was up I was at least spitting out all the dmg at over 800k

[zenith zealot]

hab deyko worst map change my mind

[fading depot]

Those ragers at the end are why I started maining smite psyker

[fading depot]

I'm like 126 now

[west stream]

I like when pistol starts critting back to back and everything that isnt a mauler just dies

[zenith zealot]

im 300+, idk cuz i dont have mods

[fading depot]

I split up my time between all my characters so I'm not as high as I could be

[zenith zealot]

but everything else i have is less than 100

[shadow onyx]

since the nerf of deflector i never use it , i go full dmg

[zenith zealot]

what did they nerf bout deflector

[fading depot]

My zel and psy are both 125 my vet and ogryn are both like 60

[shadow onyx]

you was able to block bullets when rescuing downed mate

[fading depot]

I'm gonna 100% this game mark my words

[zenith zealot]

ah i see

[untold niche]

i think some people take this game waaay too seriously :v

[zenith zealot]

that is quite the nerf

[fading depot]

I have 100% zealot, 60 missions from 100% psyker, ogr and vet next

[plucky flax]

Everytime I use a force sword without deflector I miss it.

Never again.

[zenith zealot]

i assume u're either fortune or smite

[shadow onyx]

the main use of deflector to me was going melee brr brr slide again gunners and clutching hard rez

[untold niche]

fortune yeah

[summer prairie]

melee is like <10% of my total damage, another dmg blessing isn't doing much

[untold niche]

halfway the match that guy just stood one area

[zenith zealot]

well, idk what happened so i cant say shxt

[fading depot]

?

Psyker is the OP class

[plucky flax]

I mostly use my illisi for horde clear and with slaughterer alone I can munch through horde easily.

[fading depot]

Imo

[untold niche]

he was playing ogryn :[

[plucky flax]

Uncanny won't help kill the trash mobs any faster for me.

[fading depot]

I fucking hate Ogryn

I suck at it though

Need to learn

[untold niche]

i love ogryn but ogryn is uh i feel the easiest class

[zenith zealot]

start with taunt ogryn with shield

[eager mantle]

How can you hate the big man?

[untold niche]

the only thing he cant do is run

thats it

[zenith zealot]

easier way to play him

[eager mantle]

Bull butcher with the middle keystone I find is the easiest. Sit in horde, LMB spam, I'm fucking invincible!

[coarse tartan]

does finesse do anythingf for the trauma staff?

[zenith zealot]

also i wouldnt call psykers the OP class as they are severely lacking when it comes to boss dmg compare to what other classes can do in that department, i will say however, they are the one size fits all class

with some of the most versatile builds

[untold niche]

wouldnt one size fits all be more of zealot since psyker has pretty paper toughness

[fading depot]

Yeah that's my best build with him

100%

[shadow onyx]

you can litteraly be the first dps on bosses by far..... with autogun

[fading depot]

Yeah you have to be a gun psyker to really pound on bosses

I agree w that

[eager mantle]

I would say shout veteran is pretty much the 1 size fits all. Really can't go wrong any mission with a shout vet

[zenith zealot]

that's the main problem, u have to go autogun, and u miss out on many of your other aspects if u go autogun

[fading depot]

I feel like vet is the hardest to play now

[eager mantle]

Whut

[zenith zealot]

gun psykers are probably the most limiting build in my opinion

[eager mantle]

Like shout is the easiest thing ever

[fading depot]

Yeah I don't f with it

[zenith zealot]

especially autogun psykers

[zenith zealot]

if u bring a voidstrike, u can kill elites, range and hordeclear

[shadow onyx]

even the brainburst do very decent dmg, if you take the brainburst buff when using F you can easily do 10-15 k dmg pretty quickly

[zenith zealot]

why bring gun psyker where u need to switch constantly to fit the situation

[eager mantle]

So can the gunker

[zenith zealot]

what is gunker

[willow hazel]

Psyker has boss damage if you build for it. Gunker, surge, ect... all do solid boss damage

[river dawn]

Is smite peril generation/quelling affected by my staff? or is it only affected by talent tree?

[fading depot]

Talent tree

[willow hazel]

Nah

[zenith zealot]

not as solid as other classes

[fading depot]

Agreed

[zenith zealot]

other classes who choose to specialize in boss dmg way surpass psykers

[willow hazel]

Surge is probably the best weapon against BoNs

[fading depot]

Zealots can literally one tap them

I love doing it

If they fuck up my one shot build again I'll kms

[zenith zealot]

u use autogun for elites, assail for horde clear, dueling for crushers, then what do u do vs all 3?

bring a voidstrike and u can do all 3

[willow hazel]

Voidstrike does all 3 much slower

The TTK on guns and TTK on Voidstrike is night and day

[zenith zealot]

that aoe and stagger is woirth it

also in a game, brb

[fading depot]

Better to have the ability to do all 3 at once than not

[eager mantle]

I've killed 3-5 elites in 1 mag in the time it took you to fire 1 void

[willow hazel]

Gun psyker still does all 3

but also does actual boss damage

[eager mantle]

The only times I'll get outpaced in boss dmg on my gun psyker is when the gorgon ogryn gets to blaze away freely.

[willow hazel]

Or thunderhammer zealots

[eager mantle]

That too

It is satisfying seeing the thammer zealots deleting the weakened monstronsities

[willow hazel]

But laspistol or columnus Psyker can easily out boss most builds

[west stream]

Monstrosity appears, pistol psyker stops time and magdumps laspistol 6 times into boss head, time resumes

[eager mantle]

I just need a better laspistol.

[willow hazel]

being immune to ranged attacks while mag dumping helps

[west stream]

Seriously, with full buffs it's silly how fast you can turn ammo into headcrits lol

Love me a laspistol

[eager mantle]

Had a random watching my screen when he was dead confused how I was living against 5 gunners shooting me in a hall

[severe folio]

i fukin love excavator

[west stream]

Its risky if they start firing before you get a hit in cause damage

But empathic evasion ftw

[eager mantle]

Wonder what that new laspistol variant is gonna be

[west stream]

Same

[west stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1071935029783052348/7a2ybb.png

Old meme

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i expect either something like a hellgun variant of sorts where it's straight up full auto, or the opposite where it's slower firing with higher damage

[eager mantle]

Brunt keeps giving me 370+ staves and refuses to give me 370+ guns

[west stream]

The fanning revolver may be exciting for smite gunker perhaps

[hearty dagger]

Would be cool if it had something like a charged shot for alt fire instead of the push

[eager mantle]

He gave me a 367 columnus with dmg as it's dump stat

[west stream]

Found a gray pistol with 80% dmg and great stability, will see if it beats current

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i feel like it's gonna help Psyker fill the niche of close range damage

[eager mantle]

Give the push soul blaze fatshark. I don't need it or think it would all that good, I think it'd just be neat

[fading depot]

And the normal ones

[hearty dagger]

Ok so considering that we also have a foldable sapper shovel and not just a latrine one, i feel like the gimmick of the new weapon marks might be alt modes

So maybe the laspistol has something like that?

Honestly i'm just hoping they also gave something for Psyker beyond the universal stuff since they didn't really show it in the trailer and if they did, i didn't catch it

[glossy ember]

gonna try and run triple revive speed on my curios

I feel like I'm always the one reviving when i have knife because I get there the fastest

[fading depot]

I got really lucky w my vet

Didn't have to grind very long

[hearty dagger]

Tbf KD Psyker with giga revive speed is great

[glossy ember]

KD?

oh kinetic deflection

[hearty dagger]

Kinetic Deflection

[fading depot]

This sounds fat

[glossy ember]

yeah that sounds ogryn phat

i don't run KD, so far I only really get fucked if there's fire shit everywhere when i try to rez lol

[hearty dagger]

It's great to res a teammate in the middle of actual Warp-tier chaos bullshit knowing full well nothing can stop me

Just try to break my block you silly little moebian rager, see where that gets you.

[glossy ember]

i could try KD if I see soulstealer doesn't help me too much

[mint pivot]

Me whenever any mini boss starts looking at me funny. "Ill just hide behind my immovable object of a melee weapon until you get bored and then ill get back to tickling your ass hairs with my unlimited power!"

[hearty dagger]

Honestly it's hilarious how force swords can be the biggest troll weapons in terms of how hard they can counter some enemies

Deflector FS with KD? Gunners rage and seethe at the mere thought of you.

And the regular push attack can knock anything short of a bulwark directly on it's ass, including Crushers and Ragers already in their combo

[mint pivot]

IMO psyker CAN have way too much defense in certain situtations while in some other situtations i just fucking explode

[hearty dagger]

You know you made it as a Psyker when the only thing that gets you killed is your own arrogance with peril management

[mint pivot]

Usually tunnel visioning trying to CC 3/4 of the map and i either blow myself up or get a group of 20 stealth ragers sneaking up behind me

[glossy ember]

psykers edging and psykers when they hit 100% accidentally

[hearty dagger]

Me before talent tree rework literally edging myself at 99% peril for the sweet sweet damage bonus

[fading depot]

I freely edge my peril because shriek 😏

[hearty dagger]

(I don't have talent points to grab warp rider anymore)

[mint pivot]

I want to go back to abusing shriek but shield too stronk

[severe folio]

you always have warp rider

discard anything else and take it

[glossy ember]

ye it's hard to justify not taking warp ride

[fading depot]

I want to try gaze psyker

It's the only active I haven't fucked with

[severe folio]

if you must sacrifice warp rider to get something

that something is not worth it

[glossy ember]

gazing time

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i only miss Shriek when i hit that peril kablooie

[glossy ember]

once i finish trying this out i'll experiment with DD

the surge staff special

[fading depot]

Assail + Gaze sounds like explosion bait

[glossy ember]

i prefer to call it tactical knockdown

[hearty dagger]

Can work if you go the way of EP

[severe folio]

you dont need EP

it will do just fine

its not like gaze run up so fast that you accidentally blow up while assailing

assail only give 10% each time

[fading depot]

I do this without gaze

[wind halo]

Surge + Gaze = Explosion Bait

[hearty dagger]

Yeah, though it helps to keep Gaze going longer assuming you're not running the DD gambling perk to keep it going

[glossy ember]

it's my 8 wounds build guys

[fading depot]

I get bloodlusted with my tiny shard friends

[glossy ember]

[severe folio]

blaze trauma + gaze

[fading depot]

And forgot not to explode myself

[glossy ember]

honestly maybe i should run a wound curio and go stamina on my combat knife

this is the worst build in psyker history, i'm making some weird ass medieval era onion soup

[hearty dagger]

Gaze and knife actually work pretty well

[willow hazel]

You are not required to use them at the same time

[hearty dagger]

Yeah but it works pretty well

I say this as someone who was a gazeknife psyker for a while

[glossy ember]

shit i don't have a wound curio with revive speed

[eager mantle]

I got an illisi with quelling on weak spot hit. Kinda nutty how long you stay in scriers cleaving a horde

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

Ngl i do wonder how the knife variant will work

[severe folio]

prob more wide strike

vanguard knife heavy hehe

[hearty dagger]

It would be pog

[severe folio]

or forward stab heavy

forward stab push attack

[hearty dagger]

Oh god the speedrunner zealots

[glossy ember]

they could go the ogryn knives route

[severe folio]

full stabby light attack like orgyn cleaver

[sour saffron]

I think I've found my foreverstaff

[frail sand]

stabs self

[zenith zealot]

not when there's chaff between, and my void would've anihilated all the chaff with elites

[severe folio]

that staff dosnt look quite like blaze trauma

blast radius low

[eager mantle]

Someone hasn't used a columnus

[zenith zealot]

no matter what, u cant convince me u can do all 3 as fast as voidstrike

[severe folio]

charge rate low

[zenith zealot]

jokes on u, i have columnus

[hearty dagger]

Ngl it would be cool to have a new Zealot weapon at some point like a flagellant flail or smth

[zenith zealot]

its only a matter of time till u run outta bullets too

[eager mantle]

Again the time it took you to charge it, the thing is already dead

[glossy ember]

martyrdom zealot special

[zenith zealot]

and what about the other things?

[hearty dagger]

Smth like special attack damages your health but gives you toughness overcharge

Would probably make Martyrdom Zealot actually work

[severe folio]

theyll never add that

[zenith zealot]

u think u gonna get rid of them all faster than voidstrike when in an auric damnation?

[willow hazel]

absolutely

[hearty dagger]

LET ME MAKE MY ZEALOT INTO AN ARCO FLAGELLANT FATSHARK

[eager mantle]

Other things die in a mag as well

[zenith zealot]

i'll bet 100 bucks against that

only time u'll look better is when its not a horde

[glossy ember]

[willow hazel]

If you are playing with other good players, most things are dead before you can even fire the voidstrike

[zenith zealot]

other good players?

u mean someone with plasma specifically?

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-zealot-waiting-gif-25557244

[zenith zealot]

or bolter?

or flamer?

[willow hazel]

Or a revolver, surge staff, columnus, ect...

[zenith zealot]

i'd like to see how they outrange a voidstrike if they're using melees

[zenith zealot]

a revolver, surge, and columnus isnt gonna kill "most" things before a voidstrike

especially when im refering to hordes

not just regular hordes, hordes of elites with tons of chaff

this aint no slow game

its a fast pace game that requires u to kill shxt fast especially in the higher difficulties

kill shxt as in kill loads of shxt, not just a few elites

u can stick to shooting people that are standing still and unaggroed yet if that's what u think is "pro" gameplay, but pls i hope i dont ever run into u when im running with randos in high difficulty

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

you can say shit bro

dw

[severe folio]

revolver kill faster than voidstrike

[zenith zealot]

revolver kills a horde of elites and chaffs faster than voidstrike?

[severe folio]

no they single enemy out and kill them faster than voidstrike

[zenith zealot]

yes ik, but im refering to horde

u aint using a revolver in a horde

[severe folio]

no you aint

so why are you referring revolver in a horde situation

[frail sand]

just dual wield knife and voidstrike

[zenith zealot]

cuz that's my arguement when it comes to gun psyker being a limiting build

[severe folio]

kinda odd

youll just carry a deimos for the rest of them

[eager mantle]

Yet they are effective. I like my staves. I also like the guns. They both work for different reasons.

[zenith zealot]

this literally started when i argue saying gun psyker is the most limiting build out of all other psyker builds

[severe folio]

theyre not limited

they just use the tool differently

youre not gonna clear a mixed horde with them but you can delegate your melee for specific group of enemy in a horde, and your gun for the rest of the priority target

with a staff like voidstrike you can grow into a mix of both of them and thats fine

[zenith zealot]

so basically u understand

[severe folio]

but same result with a gunpsyker build, just 2 different approach

[fading depot]

Nice

[icy wyvern]

Voidstrike with transfer peril is nuts

I can just spam charged shots into a horde at head level without having to quell

[zenith zealot]

all im gonna say is, if u end up having to clutch, and u get a horde with bulwarks up your ass, only voidstrike can save u

[eager mantle]

Yea it's nutty. Trying to get a better void and trauma staff. Happy with the surge and purge ones I have

[severe folio]

it wont

[zenith zealot]

voidstrike build in my book, is the most effective shxt

yes it will

especially with surge

[severe folio]

no it wont

[zenith zealot]

even trauma would help

why wont it

[severe folio]

because at that point it doesnt depend on the tool

[willow hazel]

One clip kills at least 3 elites faster than a Voidstrike can fire a single charge. That is 9 stacks of soulblaze from PC, everything else is dead. Reload or turn around and kill something else.

[severe folio]

if it has to be clutching then at that point that depend on the psyker

[zenith zealot]

what, 3 gunners out in the open?

standing still with no chaff in the way?

[willow hazel]

The revolver penatrates through hordes

[plucky flax]

Surge is good at clutching.

[zenith zealot]

how many horde i wonder

[willow hazel]

Like it will kill 4+ gunners if they are lined up

[zenith zealot]

lets be real, most of the time the only elite u'll be hitting is probs ragers, maulers, bulwarks, or crushers, during a horde

there aint no gunner running into u

shotgunners maybe

[severe folio]

they wont but with revolver you can pick them off

because theyre taller

and the revolver penetrate through the horde enough for you to reach them first

[eager mantle]

Yea like...most elites aren't even blocked by the horde

[zenith zealot]

u pick them off in the backline, then what

what about the frontline

[tawdry pasture]

empty all 6 rounds into horde, if you got 6 elite kills good

[willow hazel]

Ideally they are, better to kill the horde and the elite with the same shot

[tawdry pasture]

if you didnt, revolver ocelot shows up and says "skissue"

[willow hazel]

5 rounds but basically

[severe folio]

the frontline you delegate them to your melee

and your blitz

[zenith zealot]

i delegate them with staff

my blitz will stop me from getting the gunners

my melee will stop me from getting gunners

[severe folio]

thats why you take them out in order

[eager mantle]

Look we get it, you prefer your voidstrike and we think it's good too. The way you stroke your ego with it putting down other play is annoying though.

[tawdry pasture]

its almost like you got a certain amount of rounds before having to have DPS downtime reloading

why not empty the chamber

[severe folio]

come on youre not that stupid that you dont know how to prioritize targets

[zenith zealot]

i know that i cant afford to prioritize targets when im surrounded is what ik

[severe folio]

at this point its not even the gun issue it might become your issue

well

then you should practice it instead of crutching on voidstrike

maybe then you will kill things just as fast as your voidstrike

[tawdry pasture]

oh fuhg this psyker chat not vet chat

[zenith zealot]

crutching on voidstrike, so basically voidstrike is stronger then?

why would it be a crutch?

[eager mantle]

I'm a warp crayon vet

[tawdry pasture]

sponsored by crayola

[severe folio]

its your crutch because you dont have to think about what to shoot first

you just have to point at everything and use it

[limpid cypress]

IT’S WIZARD TIME, MOTHERFUCKER!

[zenith zealot]

its cuz it can shoot everything in a row, i can prioritize targets even through a horde

[willow hazel]

idk voidstrike is pretty overrated

[fading depot]

Agreed

[severe folio]

well it is the meta staff

[fading depot]

I take Surge

[severe folio]

well yes

and no i dont think you can

because you dont know how to do so without voidstrike

[fading depot]

I saw a level 1000+ psyker running knife, surge, and smite, ditched my voidstrike immediately and copied him

[tawdry pasture]

nah it carries and the crit means even resistant stuff needs 2 dodges

and pop

[zenith zealot]

that's why its the most effective

[willow hazel]

it's just too slow. Takes too long to charge and reduces too much move speed while charging

[zenith zealot]

man never back dodge slides

[tawdry pasture]

youre just meant to hunker and wait til the director is finished throwing things

[willow hazel]

it reduces the distance of dodges too

[tawdry pasture]

not move

[zenith zealot]

use dueling sword to gain dodge range

[icy wyvern]

Find a corner and kill what gets too close

simple as

[willow hazel]

you cant use the dueling sword while charging

[zenith zealot]

gain dodge range, then charge while still backdodging

its called kiting

[icy wyvern]

and if charge speed is an issue i have a blessing that would work great for you

[zenith zealot]

that blessing's overrated but he probably needs it

[severe folio]

same conversation as shooting gunner with revolver, killing horde with melee

[slender coyote]

deimos + purgatus + bb + vent, done

[icy wyvern]

if i hear something great get called overrated one more time

[static needle]

Do you want rampage blessing on a mk iv DS?

[severe folio]

great and overrated are 2 different thing

[willow hazel]

This is the issue. The dodge distance on voidstrike while charing is terrible. Any other ranged weapon not only shoots faster, but doesn't tank movement as bad like Voidstrike

[icy wyvern]

Obviously surge has good points that voidstrike doesn't, and vice versa

[glass forge]

Ogryn can recover 25% toughness in 1 heavy attack, how do i make psyker safer to play? just stay away from melee most of the time?

[tawdry pasture]

the staffs are made for defensive playing with those movespeed penalties

[zenith zealot]

none of it will matter when u get stuck in a corner

[tawdry pasture]

why lie

[zenith zealot]

the gun aint gonna create space for u

[willow hazel]

Not surge

[icy wyvern]

I mean, if you need space, vent. simple as

woe, soulblaze upon ye

[willow hazel]

The right side columnus build runs around with +60% movespeed. Just don't get cornered.

[tawdry pasture]

it depends but the electricity staff is CC

[zenith zealot]

that's not always possible, depends on the map, depends on the spawn

[severe folio]

not anymore

[tawdry pasture]

i dont know where youre pulling damage out of your force staff

[zenith zealot]

used to be cc, now its dmg

[tawdry pasture]

oh nice

[zenith zealot]

but two targets only

[icy wyvern]

Voidstrike and surge are two different playstyles, if you try and play one like the other you're going to think it sucks

[slender coyote]

crusher effective?

[severe folio]

3-4 shot to kill crusher

[zenith zealot]

pretty effective, if u build it for them, if not it's still decent, but slower

[icy wyvern]

I for one am a big fan of watching the think I smacked with a bowling ball get knocked on its ass

[eager mantle]

All those top nodes regen toughness off peril gain, warp kills, crits, and quelling. There's also kinetic deflection on the bottom right. Let's you use peril to block and you will be able to block A LOT in a horde.

[slender coyote]

that's pretty good

[tawdry pasture]

maybe its finally time to try electricity build again

it used to be meta until they killed the cc and damage

that was the only reason purgatos got built for

[severe folio]

thats so old already

[slender coyote]

didn't they just switch that out to smite

[severe folio]

thats like

[icy wyvern]

ALSO you can use the block perk to build peril and get more damage out of venting shriek

[severe folio]

so long ago already

[willow hazel]

It's way easier to not get corned when running around with +60% movespeed instead negative movespeed from charging voidstrikes.

[severe folio]

just keep using your staff

[slender coyote]

i just take a purgatus and vent if i go too high, effective if i run out of peril while still fighting a horde ngl

[tawdry pasture]

staff psykers moving like a mine clearing vehicle

[icy wyvern]

I will, once I clear some room with venting

[tawdry pasture]

0.00011mph

[severe folio]

objekt honestly movement isnt an issue with staves

no psyker carrying staff is gonna stay crip walking a whole fight

[slender coyote]

usually hordes are running TOWARDS you.

[untold niche]

@severe folio i really like DS damage but it really throws my target priority out the window
now when i see a gunner taht isn't shooting at me, i think "eh my team can deal with it"

i mean DD*

[severe folio]

try not to be so, just kill everything as usual

[untold niche]

but if i do then i won't get stacks >.>

[severe folio]

thats just your destiny then

[tawdry pasture]

ooga

[untold niche]

if its a big mixed horde then i won't do that of course

but if its like a new area of the map

[willow hazel]

It's not an issue, but its still much worse than guns or surge. Being more mobile is almost always good.

[untold niche]

we have high ground

:p

[willow hazel]

Just being able to quickly find angles on specialists is worth a lot

[severe folio]

no its not much worse, its 2 different situations that is unreal

[slender coyote]

purgatus can actually take out ragers in a horde not too bad

[icy wyvern]

tfw the revolver gun psyker runs off on their own and dies for the 5th time that day

[glass forge]

can i use perk to gain peril when blocking, then use perk to gain toughness when peril is gained?

[untold niche]

also i have a 325 voidstrike staff and it feels like it takes FOREVER to charge to full dude >.>

[severe folio]

do you just stay on aim down sight 50% of the time as a gunpsyker ?

[tawdry pasture]

honestly, the psyker movespeed is frustrating if youre grouped with non psykers high dif

you have to be able to solo or enjoy dying

[severe folio]

you dont, then same goes with staff psyker, you dont stuck in slow and constantly charging for half your game

[eager mantle]

Yes you have a node that regens toughness off peril gain and with KD you gain peril off blocking

[untold niche]

wait then what do i do bossman

[willow hazel]

Gunker gets up to +60% movespeed from Scirers, DD, and Mettle. Voidstrike isn't doing that.

[severe folio]

no that wasnt for you

[slender coyote]

I think deflector can tank a crusher overhead with the right build

[untold niche]

ah

[glass forge]

Oh interesting thank you

[severe folio]

you know voidstrike can also take DD right

[slender coyote]

not deflector*

[tawdry pasture]

i would like to see that

[slender coyote]

i meant the talent

that blocks with peril

my bad lol

[icy wyvern]

believe it or not, some people just uh, dont wanna play gunker

[slender coyote]

excuse me tired

[icy wyvern]

staves are cool

[slender coyote]

agreed^

[severe folio]

this conversation has delve into picking into unrealistic scenario of both weapon type

[tawdry pasture]

goud

[icy wyvern]

and the wet slapping sound that pops up after I get 3 headshots with one projectile is too good to pass up

woe upon any horde trying to go through a door

[tawdry pasture]

Psykers discovering niche things in their pocket of the discord

[severe folio]

who are you two

do you even know what stem this conversation

[tawdry pasture]

its me, your mom

[severe folio]

mom is dead

[icy wyvern]

sometimes i like to poke poxwalkers with my staff over and over again

[tawdry pasture]

just checking youre winning on darktide honey

[icy wyvern]

cant do that with a columnus

[static needle]

Best blessings besides uncanny strike for maccabian mk IV?

[severe folio]

rampage or shred

[static needle]

not the crit chance on dodge one?

[severe folio]

no

[static needle]

whys that

[severe folio]

too reactive

[willow hazel]

That would put them at +20% not +60%, but Voidstrike is still worse at picking off DD targets than pretty much anything. Also still has to deal with the big move speed debuff from charging. It's just not a a mobile weapon.

[severe folio]

the other two is more proactive

[tawdry pasture]

psykers in stem

[static needle]

define reactive in this sense

[severe folio]

its not worse in picking off DD

[willow hazel]

that one is fine too

[severe folio]

enemy have to attack you before you get buff

[willow hazel]

How?

[static needle]

im running into this issue too. You would need assail to deal with DD targets i suppose

[severe folio]

because it can penetrate through horde of bruisers

[copper torrent]

Both precog and riposte are great. You will constantly have it up in auric. Who isn't constantly dodging everything?

[tawdry pasture]

tfw your ancient knowledge frightens someone

better turn into a tree

[icy wyvern]

you're not supposed to be cooking dick around the map, you're supposed to be hanging out in a good spot and blasting fools

If you try and play voidstrike like gunker you're going to say voidstrike sucks

its okay to say its not your playstyle homie

[severe folio]

either way saying you get 60% speed is odd

who said voidstrike cant take scrier and DD

[static needle]

@icy wyvern Do u run DD with voidstrike?

[icy wyvern]

gonna be real

idk what dd is

[severe folio]

DD is harder warp siphon

[static needle]

why would u run scrier's tho?

[willow hazel]

If the enemy is mixed in the direction you are shooting, DD is always easy. What if they are behind cover, or just get suppressed before the voidstrike connects?

[severe folio]

why not

[static needle]

yes but for the tradeoff of having more points to spend elsewhere

[severe folio]

what does gun gonna do in that

[static needle]

disrupt destiny

[willow hazel]

columnus

[severe folio]

enemy in cover

[icy wyvern]

okay ive looked over my talent tree

[severe folio]

what does the gun gonna do differently from voidstrike

[icy wyvern]

i run ep so i can do the funny thing to jumping dogs

[tawdry pasture]

it allows you to submit to the ammo economy, slightly faster bullet time

[static needle]

not generate peril

[tawdry pasture]

a mixed bag for a psyker all in all

[severe folio]

why would you generate peril from enemy behind cover

[static needle]

arent we discussing scrier's with voidstrijke?

[fading depot]

Me

[severe folio]

scrier with gun do the same thing then

[icy wyvern]

we're discussing objekts' very passionate view against the voidstrike

voidstrike, my beloved

[static needle]

not at all at the same rate

[willow hazel]

you are not slowed down while firing, so just reposition, or use Assail. Voidstrike could also use Assail, but both use the same peril bar

[severe folio]

if youre not shooting anything then its the same rate

[static needle]

yes but you will be shooting tho??

[severe folio]

then quell, or stop shooting, psyker switch to melee to move anyway

[severe folio]

why would you shoot at a covered enemy

again

[icy wyvern]

voidstrike's hitbox easily smacks the top of their heads

[severe folio]

unrealistic scenarios

[willow hazel]

Because you asked how a gun can shoot behind cover

[severe folio]

this nitpicking has become very unrealistic

[tawdry pasture]

maintain suppression, close gap, advance, kill

[severe folio]

why would anyone argue against voidstrike by saying “oh but staff move so slow” ?

[tawdry pasture]

pretty standard military tactic

[severe folio]

learn the move tech, staff speed are no issue, and you dont run with your staff or your gun out

[icy wyvern]

If your chief worry is being left behind, get better teammates

[willow hazel]

Because that combined with long charge time are real downsides compared to most ranged weapons

[severe folio]

you are a few patch too old

[tawdry pasture]

ok but the 50ft gained is worth it

[static needle]

Is maccabian mk iv still okay against hordes with either of those blessings? Cause im consider whether i should use that DS or an illisi for my voidstrike build. I also run shield and smite on this build

[tawdry pasture]

And you need to take a night class in english

So we're both being dicks

[severe folio]

look, using voidstrike doesnt mean you gonna be moving while charging all the time

or as much time to make it a detrimental

thats not going to happen, not on any staff ever

[willow hazel]

It means you are going to spend some portion of the game charging, with reduced speed.

[fading depot]

We rabid dogs in psyker chat

[icy wyvern]

If your biggest focus is movespeed, sure, don't bring a staff. If you want to run around the map like a nut, go for it.

[static needle]

i mean you can move if you do dodge -> slide constantly

[icy wyvern]

Us more refined players will keep using our staves thanks

[tawdry pasture]

discarded

[willow hazel]

The dodge slides while charging voidstrike are much shorter than normal

[severe folio]

again, so what ? you are not going to be slower than anyone that isnt using a staff unless you stuck behind and keep charging for no reason

[tawdry pasture]

what is using the socratic method instea d of just having normal convo?

its that

its doing that

[icy wyvern]

You're saying that like you'll need to spam dodge with voidstrike while using its charged attack, completely ignoring the space that it clears in front of you

[severe folio]

where are you gonna go when confronted with a horde while using a gun anyway ? youre not going to go anywhere differently than a voidstrike staff carrier

[icy wyvern]

A fully charged voidstrike will knock anything in front of you on its ass

You can stop running and start hosing down

[willow hazel]

Do you not move around in combat?

[severe folio]

if this is actually a problem with your voidstrike

then this is not a voidstrike issue, because literally no one else have this problem

[tawdry pasture]

theyre a shit psyker trying to win arguments

go away

[static needle]

Is maccabian mk iv still okay against hordes with either precog or riposte? Cause im considering whether i should use that DS or an illisi for my voidstrike build. I also run shield and smite on this build. Any tips?

[severe folio]

i think the rampage does against horde better

because rampage have a ton of damage buff and you will be shredding into horde with light attacks

[icy wyvern]

Voidstrike's decent enough with hordes that an illisi is kinda overkill. Good in a pinch, but not as useful in itself as a deimos

[static needle]

the question is, do you need that horde clear capability if u run smite?

i can just smite and knock em on the ground tho

[severe folio]

its better to kill things when you can than stalling them

[tawdry pasture]

me when i say something is situational

then i discuss situational

[severe folio]

the mk4 and the deimos unironically function on the same principle as the voidstrike but for melee

[tawdry pasture]

imma go walk my fish now

[glossy ember]

man assail is ridiculous

[severe folio]

good against all form of enemies, do well with elite and normal targets

tunnel enemies down into a line

[static needle]

Is this worth running compared to 6 warp charges?

[glossy ember]

no

[fading depot]

Yes

[severe folio]

6 warp charges is better

[tawdry pasture]

warp charges innate dps

[fading depot]

But you should have both

[severe folio]

some said the lightning storm dont affect charged smite

[tawdry pasture]

those warps you will miss when a crusher or a bulwark resists in a close quarters scenario

[severe folio]

i tried to test that but its hard to discern

[fading depot]

Not true

[severe folio]

have you test it

[tawdry pasture]

if you don't run dps

you dont need warps

[fading depot]

Warps is best for smite

[severe folio]

wouldnt EP better

[static needle]

What talent would u recommend I sacrifice for this build to get 6 warps?

[severe folio]

KD

[static needle]

i find its very useful while reviving tho

and blocking

[blazing echo]

whats the preferred blessings for voidstrikes these days?

[fading depot]

Warps lets you smite longer and shriek more

[eager mantle]

You can probably drop either the toughness regen on quell or warp kill

[severe folio]

then lightning storm

[static needle]

but like, can you manage against a plague ogryn or chaos spawn with a duelling sword without running extra stamina?

[tawdry pasture]

one from the top end or the surge bonus

[vestal fulcrum]

Surge/Nexus or Flurry/Nexus

[severe folio]

yeah

[frigid zenith]

If gunpsyker is a meme, what's melee psyker?

[blazing echo]

cheers Kjerad o7

[tawdry pasture]

absolutely, you might need to make some callouts

[zenith zealot]

a chad meme

[severe folio]

never had stamina perks and i use mk4 on plorgyn just fine

[tawdry pasture]

no its real

its not a meme

[frigid zenith]

Fuck yes.

[tawdry pasture]

i do it every time a DH appears

let me tank it

[severe folio]

no

leave it alone

[eager mantle]

Psykers just missing a taunt talent

[tawdry pasture]

its too late

i alerted it and the team grouped up like chads

[static needle]

and u also dont run kinetic deflection for DS 4?

[tawdry pasture]

and we fucked it in two seconds

i mean defeated it

[frigid zenith]

Block effic ftw

[severe folio]

KD seem better if you had a force sword with deflector

[tawdry pasture]

[severe folio]

with an mk4 eh

thats a failsafe

[frigid zenith]

Blocking is for sissies. Just kill it.

[severe folio]

if you are surrounded and sunk knee deep in horde

rampage is more fun because 85% damage

[tawdry pasture]

block effic kinetic deflect and deflector, all you need to be the chad

[static needle]

what surge bonus do u mean?

[severe folio]

he means one of those toughness talent

[frigid zenith]

The real secret to success is wildfire.

[tawdry pasture]

im old and dont know the words but your RB electricity bonus talent

[old matrix]

Is Warp Rupture fine or is Creeping Flames better since it can stack with Wildfire

[severe folio]

creeping flame better

[static needle]

what does RB stand for?

[frigid zenith]

Creeping flamesssssss

[severe folio]

but it doesnt stack with wildfire

[tawdry pasture]

right bumper

[severe folio]

or rather

[old matrix]

Because 100-200 damage sounds low

[severe folio]

wildfire doesnt stack with it

[slender coyote]

it is

[tawdry pasture]

idk dog i just push buttons and hope the pysker works

[frigid zenith]

Wildfire > all

[slender coyote]

lore accurate

[old matrix]

Why wouldn't it stack?

[severe folio]

wildfire cap at 4

[old matrix]

Both are Soulblaze

[severe folio]

creeping flame max 6

nothing will spread to each other becaude everything die at 6

[old matrix]

Sure but it spreads

Ah

[severe folio]

no it doesnt

[tawdry pasture]

The electricity spell, not the staff, whatever bonus talent that is cut it

[severe folio]

wildfire cap at 4

[old matrix]

Wildfire is about spreading fire isn't it?

[rigid rune]

that sounds wrong

[severe folio]

so everything with 6 stacks die leaves nothing to the next one

[old matrix]

When an enemy on fire dies, it spreads

Its about death, not life

[severe folio]

it spreads not in the same way it is listed

[static needle]

This extra skill?

[severe folio]

it spread up to 4 to other enemies, but this doesnt mean each enemies gonna receive 4 stacks

[tawdry pasture]

yes, it's that or a top end of the tree toughness perk

[untold niche]

whats the dump stat on void stafsf

[rigid rune]

This was patched it no longer works with surge staff

[severe folio]

yes that skill

[tawdry pasture]

top end stinky toughness talent better to cut but im just giving options

[static needle]

im not talking about surge staff

[severe folio]

its misleading description

[slender coyote]

remind me what tf a dump stat is

[old matrix]

The one you don't need

[slender coyote]

oh

[static needle]

.

[old matrix]

A dump stat is just the useless one so you can have it at the lowest

Like in Fallout, Charisma is a dump stat since Speech is a seperate skill

So have low Charisma since it doesn't matter except in Fallout 2

[severe folio]

never take wildfire if you think it spread 4 stacks to each enemies around the dead target

[static needle]

elaborate pls... hahah

which one does he mean

[severe folio]

it doesnt do so, it spread up to 4 stacks, so essen up to 4 enemies is spreaded to, each enemy receive 1 stack

[old matrix]

That is bizarre

[severe folio]

if there are only 2 enemy, each receive 2

[old matrix]

I'm not English but that description is weird

[severe folio]

if there are only 1 enemy, that enemy receive 4

if there are only 1 enemy but that enemy already has 3 soulblaze, that enemy only receive 1 stack

[old matrix]

So Perilious Combustion is the same but 3?

[severe folio]

no, perilous is better

[old matrix]

Kill an elite and 3 enemies max are affected

[severe folio]

because perilous do not have a cap of soulblaze

[tawdry pasture]

It's probably quietude

looking at your pics

[severe folio]

every elite dead add 3 stacks without cap

each enemies actually receive 3

and they go up to 31

[static needle]

isnt tougness for quelling peril really nice tho when ur in a pickle to fast get it back?

[tawdry pasture]

turn more glassy

[severe folio]

keep in mind 6 stacks is all needed to kill poxwalkers

[tawdry pasture]

it's a risk

[severe folio]

so 2 elite dead around a horde means that horde is gone

[tawdry pasture]

i would take the risk for dps

not everyone would

[old matrix]

Right so Perilious Combustion works as you think it does and Wildfire doesn't, got it

[severe folio]

what is this

[slender coyote]

my damnation build

lol

[severe folio]

it looks

hm

what staff ?

[slender coyote]

i run purg

[severe folio]

well, what weapon

i see

[slender coyote]

and deimos

[severe folio]

i think its kinda bad

[slender coyote]

well thats why i posted

i want criticism

what should i be doing different

[tawdry pasture]

theres a peril quelling button

[severe folio]

dont pick wildfire, pick psykinetic aura

[tawdry pasture]

i dont need the game to do that

[slender coyote]

hm

alright

[static needle]

i know thats exactly what im saying

[severe folio]

dont pick the extra skill for BB, take perilous combustion

thats all

[tawdry pasture]

and toughness from coherency and bubble?

you can spam bubble with your current spec

every 20 seconds

so youre good

[slender coyote]

i use that extra skill a lot, i can single out a lot of elites in a crowd

[static needle]

fair enough. I often just dont wanna spam bubble cause i wanna keep my warp charges