psyker-class

[untold niche]

ike just the sound?
or like psyker have plasma gun

[steel sluice]

I suppose, I just assumed it would be more nuanced then us vets arguing about the better grenade lol

[untold niche]

tree smol
nuance prob comes from stuff like if you want/need e.g. gaze's tdr node or gaze's move speed node

[red jacinth]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9abf4f34-113a-44be-aeb9-245de708dc30/soulblaze-8 kinda new to making psyker builds, normally play zealot, any suggestions/changes?

[severe folio]

nuance come after you understand the talents a bit more

[untold niche]

someone else confirm this has no sound

so i can accuse purg for trolling me

[severe folio]

Perfect Timing, Mettle is great for purgatus, Wildfire is redundant, critical chance boost at the bottom is great

[steel sluice]

It has sound on my end

[severe folio]

Kinetic Flayer is okay, but wont help making more flame, and you wont have control of who it pop on

[steel sluice]

Video is very quiet though

[untold niche]

i cant hear anything

[steel sluice]

I had to turn up my phone to hear it

[severe folio]

my game volume is 16

[red jacinth]

coun't find a way to grab them sadly

[severe folio]

you could grab them if you remove wildfire and kinetic flayer

[red jacinth]

ig

[severe folio]

worth prioritize mettle and perfect timing because purgatus staff crit a lot

the wildfire only add 4 soulblaze to enemies nearby the one you havent kill with the flame

4 soulblaze is nothing compare to 5 soulblaze every 2-3 seconds that purgatus can put out and you can put them on those enemies way before wildfire can spread to

[red jacinth]

fair

[severe folio]

the warp expenditure sound great, since youll keep getting toughness as long as you use purgatus

but you already have soulstealer and quietude, and if you grab mettle and perfect timing down below it the warp expenditure give very low toughness

[red jacinth]

does the purgatus have a extra crit chance?

[quasi junco]

No I think only surge staff has bonus crit

I could be wrong

[severe folio]

thats not why

its because of the purgatus fire rate

the flame torrent of the charge attack, each flame is small damage but they are insanely fast

[quasi junco]

I’ve seen purg players getting 2.5k crits on HISTG games

Crazy

[severe folio]

here's what i recommend

[red jacinth]

damn

[red jacinth]

ty

[silk hawk]

For purge?

[severe folio]

for purg

[quasi junco]

I run this same build but give up a top area toughness node for kinetic deflection

Or w/e it’s called

[severe folio]

yes its called so

[red jacinth]

also any suggestions for a voidstrike build?

[severe folio]

hmm

[quasi junco]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ac2b820-8af9-4609-af57-8a650ad43fc4/critstrike

[grim vector]

Which Blessings should i get if i wanna run this ?

[quasi junco]

I run this and have great success

[severe folio]

just the usual warp flurry, warp nexus

[silk hawk]

I prefer that for purge

[severe folio]

for faster BB

[silk hawk]

U can burst bosses real good 🙂

[severe folio]

Purgatus against a boss to max stack, creeping flame 85 and then use mk4 dueling sword on them is a lot of damage

the wildfire is redundant though

[idle bay]

I just tried keystone-less heretical build with all Toughness and toughness DR nodes. It feels wrong even in Meat Grinder. Who needs all tha thoughness anyway?

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's really bad.

[kind jay]

do you prefer shooters to strip 90 tough in one shot or 190 also in one shot

[idle bay]

I mean only in pre-made team with Non-runing-away zealot with his DR nodes that work on party and high DR aura vet that uuse they extra toughness class abilities - it will be crazy to break. And that's it..

And 2 Psykers with dome for dome on dome advance. But it will be just for memes

Insane toughness regen + always extra TH on, with insane (even if it's multiplicative) TH DR. And if dome expires or damage taken it's even more TH DR

[severe folio]

personally how i'd run voidstrike

this is a transfer peril voidstrike

[silk hawk]

This is what i run with surge+flurry void strike

[severe folio]

why EP

[old matrix]

Isn't EP quite good

[severe folio]

why ?

[silk hawk]

For actually clearing hordes with smite xD

[severe folio]

eh

thats what your voidstrike suppose to do is it not

[old matrix]

Yeah it makes Smite an actual killer + with brainblast it means you can kill pretty much everything

[silk hawk]

Voidstrike is shit at horde clear of they are not in a choke point

[old matrix]

I run EP Brain Blast when I don't trust the team to kill specials

[silk hawk]

And most of the time they are not...

[severe folio]

thats not a good way to build things

[silk hawk]

In that particular build i use void mainly as elite nuker weapon

[severe folio]

that seem

hm

limited potential ?

[silk hawk]

As i said it's a surge + flurry vs

[severe folio]

wouldnt a surge staff do better then

[silk hawk]

Nope... Sadly

[severe folio]

why not

[glass lotus]

You guys prefere mind siphon or disrupt destiny for crit build?

[silk hawk]

Bcuz void penetration is just too good

[severe folio]

depend on weapon

[glass lotus]

Voidstrike and Duell sword in my case

[severe folio]

would DD because they can weakspot

[silk hawk]

Try that void build, i just did a dozen of runs like that it was pretty good 🙂

[severe folio]

mmm im not sure

im sure it will handle all difficulty just fine

[glass lotus]

Aight I'll give it a shot

[severe folio]

but its the kind of build that take tools to prevent failsafe

and yeah its gonna do its job

yeah you gonna through the mission

but i can feel its gonna be slow

and its the kind of build that function when the team breaking

?

[old matrix]

I'm very confused

[untold niche]

idk i seen him around, im pretty sure he knows more than me :v

[old matrix]

Did the Inquistion come in?

Do you have a gun to your head right now?

[untold niche]

i don't think whatever i typed will help.
so i dont want to obstruct chat with wall of text

[old matrix]

Well alright just it might help someone later

Like me who knows nothing

Can someone explain the third force sword you get special? The one where you just slap warp on it and it does...more damage?

[untold niche]

okeh tldr for you :3
must have:
True aim, warp rider. empathic evasion

Technically redundant:
Mind in motion

Up to preference: top tree, toughness regen nodes

Choose between:
Crit aura + bobble or CDR aura + VS (in which highly recommended to take perilous combustion + creeping flames

[untold widget]

You've wasted a point on the Smite augment. Could take Empathic Evasion or Psychic Leeching or something in the top tree like Quietude or Expenditure

[old matrix]

Like why should I use it over the thrusting Force Sword

[severe folio]

every force sword does that

[old matrix]

No they have different specials

[untold niche]

yeah illisi just add damage, dk if it add stagger

[old matrix]

There's the single target and the one where you just add warpjuice on it

[untold niche]

deimos does do the SHRUTTPP Boom

[untold widget]

Illisi can charge to ignore hit mass and deal more damage, yess

[severe folio]

they have a different way to apply their attack yes but what you describe is essentially the same of all 3 of them, do you remember the name of that one ?

[untold niche]

oh yeah it gives cleave

[old matrix]

I am horrible with names, especially Warhammer
There's the early one, the thrusting one, and the last one with crowd sweep moveset

[patent hatch]

disrupt D

[old matrix]

I don't get the point of the first Force Sword you get when the Thruster and Late One seem to just be plain bettter

[severe folio]

Obscurus is the first one we got, Illisi is the one with a sweeping force attack, Deimos is the one with the stabbing heavy, which one you are talkin about ?

[old matrix]

Illisi

[severe folio]

Illisi is a horde clearing weapon

[untold widget]

It used to be the only one.

[severe folio]

Its heavy are just sweeps

[old matrix]

So when should I use the special for the Illisi? Heavies?

[severe folio]

and it has very good single target damage, not as good as deimos

you use the special to clear out hordes

apply warp, heavy attack into hordes

it will sweep through all enemies

can also do light attack

[untold widget]

Also useful with Bloodthirsty

[untold niche]

goddam i didnt know that was the correct application

i just light attack into horde :v

i learnt something new

[severe folio]

you can do that too

[silk hawk]

Why wasted? It's bugged?

[untold widget]

it only applies to left click smite

[old matrix]

Yeah I was wondering if lights or heavy was more effective

[zenith zealot]

i only light attack hordes :/

[severe folio]

but the warp application let it ignore mass

so whether you light or heavy

its more profitable to warp attack regardless

[untold widget]

Theres absolutely no difference in an augmented smite charged RMB and an unaug'd charged RMB

and charged rmb's are 99.99% of what you're going to do

[quasi junco]

I also tested that lightning storm doesn't effect RMB

[old matrix]

So its bugged or its intended?

[untold widget]

who knows, it's just bad either way

smite good, augments bad lol

[severe folio]

unless youre this guy https://youtu.be/8M0juBd7erE?si=jlYKu_LglHJFaAp5&t=74

[untold widget]

probably Moebian VI propaganda to get more smite psykers killed

it didn't even stop that mutie

[severe folio]

very oof

they should have use the surge staff instead

[hearty dagger]

Not gonna lie

I would honestly love it if as a reward for the limited combat encounter thing you got the Karnak Twins' armor

I know it's 'eretic armor but goddamn that shit looks slick

[severe folio]

haha

very nice idea

(it wont happen)

[silk hawk]

I see, i will switch to quitude then, tnx

[woeful zinc]

Hi peeps, whats the dump stat on a Trauma staff please?

[patent hatch]

warp res

[woeful zinc]

Ah good - tyty

[bleak tulip]

no clear one just a mix of the usual suspects

[untold widget]

Don't sleep on Psychic Leeching down in the middle of Empowered Psionics. You're gonna be smiting often as you use up your true aim to proc more true aim, that's a lot of toughess regen for you and your team.

[sweet drift]

Does enhanced blitz even buff Psyker?

[deep whale]

Does anyone know if the quelling from Exorcist gives toughness back?

[woeful zinc]

I read somewhere it only buffs the primary fire, not the charged... Havent checked yet..

[sweet drift]

Strange

[frigid zenith]

For smite, I couldn't see a difference using the buffs to it at all.

[summer prairie]

pretty sure I can see a difference

whether it's worth it is debatable

[quasi junco]

Same

[untold widget]

do you use the left click mainly?

[wind halo]

125% bonus to 1 dps

[summer prairie]

No, I mean I can see the difference when testing with rmb

[untold widget]

Might just be psychosomatic

you want to see a difference, so you do.

rmb already jumps to like 50 dudes. You're telling me you can see that 51st dude getting jumped to?

[summer prairie]

I'm recording a video, would have already gotten one if windows video capture wasn't stupid

[untold widget]

So for your test. Left click with +1 augment will hit 2 dudes instead of 1. that's the difference

[summer prairie]

you seem very convinced that you've it nailed down

[untold widget]

yup

[severe folio]

i was pinged

i do not see any ping

i will find you

[inland crescent]

what is a "curio" instead of weapon chance?

[untold widget]

things you equip under the weapons

theres 3 slots

ending a mission has a low chance to give a curio, higher chance of getting a weapon. The stat alters that

[late yew]

damn

[idle bay]

I just found out that there are "For the Drip" mod exists, still work in progress though. too early for mass use. Allows customization of cosmetic gear 🙂

[untold niche]

imo no point really, you cant see it yourelf.

maybe in menu?

and gloves i guess.

[wind halo]

Only seen by yourself

[severe folio]

use perspective mod

[late yew]

There are people who pay real money for cosmetics btw

[severe folio]

you say that like its the first time it happens

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/n20umd note how with the node the chain goes all the way to the the last crusher. I've a few other videos of the test without moving but it's very easy to replicate

[untold niche]

thats the third person mod?

[summer prairie]

(again this doesn't make the node worth taking, just saying it does something)

[severe folio]

mhm

[summer prairie]

based on the code it also changes the angle and radius of the possible jumps but that's annoying to test

[untold niche]

i feel its cheating so i don't use it :p

[severe folio]

i cheat on your mom

[late yew]

is it not more limiting that advantegous lol

[untold niche]

OI YOU TAKE THAT BACK

[late yew]

No, i cheat on his mom

[untold niche]

i mean, as a zealot, with it i don't even need to turn around to check if my backside have enemies

[quasi junco]

me 😄

[summer prairie]

Even easier to see the extra jump here, but again it probably doesn't help at all (unless the angle+radius changes make a difference) https://streamable.com/a2bn18

[late yew]

Disgusting

you are the reason why game industry gone to shit

[tawdry pasture]

Misogynistic comment smdh

[quasi junco]

i'm going to buy more aquillas

[hearty oak]

It works but it's messy

[idle bay]

i'll wait patently until it's creators say that it's finished 🙂

[hearty oak]

If it's a mod, that's gonna be a long while till they abandon it or they can't do anything more

[quasi junco]

@late yew

[late yew]

Yes

[hearty oak]

You bought the game, you played the game, you only fueled the issue.

Not like its gonna matter though. The industry has gotten a taste and there's no going back. It's now about how much you're willing to tolerate

[tawdry pasture]

ask this ogryn about their skincare routine

[cyan moth]

what is

finesse damage??

[tawdry pasture]

it's what i thought

it's riposte damage

so post parry

counter hit damage

[cyan moth]

OH

holy shit thats actually good

I made a build

around counter hit damage LOL

[tawdry pasture]

well, critting per se

[late yew]

Damn, thanks

[tawdry pasture]

not just ripostes

anything that crits

[cyan moth]

https://gyazo.com/1bb59dbe99872510940bc6f6b7000c77

this is what I got rn

[steel sluice]

I bought the entire death korps set just cause

[cyan moth]

the hag kinda fucked me on weakspot damage but ohwell I aim headshots anyway

[tawdry pasture]

basically if you run revolver or duelling sword

i dont think it runs on revolver but same theory

[old matrix]

First it started with horse armour and look at how the gaming has fallen!

Soon we'll loop back into being arcades where per run is paid for with digital dabloons

[tawdry pasture]

specific high damage

[cyan moth]

damn I can almost 1 shot mutants now

[icy wyvern]

pay to look cool vs pay to win

[cyan moth]

real

[icy wyvern]

obvs the people who pay to look cool are the issue

[cyan moth]

honestly

[steel sluice]

1 bit coin per player per life

[cyan moth]

i dont get why buying cosmetics is like

[icy wyvern]

nvm the fifa business model

[cyan moth]

such a bad thing

its not like you have to buy cosmetics

[tawdry pasture]

now you can be the clutch

[cyan moth]

if people wanna look pretty let them look pretty

[steel solstice]

Is it worth to switch?

[cyan moth]

if they wanna waste their money on it

let em'

[icy wyvern]

Now! I do wish you had a way to earn aquilas ingame, but!

There's the commissary

[cyan moth]

you are literally like the guy holding up a rock up that hill

fighting people on cosmetics LMAO

[cyan moth]

yes

[old matrix]

They are good but the issue is that more and more parts of games that were free back in the old days are now extremely high priced

[cyan moth]

well yeah, something something shitty economy, something something.. values..

[tawdry pasture]

I went to make up counter and demanded a sample of every cream and the lady squirted perfume in my eyes

[old matrix]

They are fine in a F2P system because the game is free, the fact games are now full price + a F2P system is what sucks

[tawdry pasture]

auuugh

[old matrix]

I bought stuff in Darktide because I like it but I admit I'm part of a problem that's never going to change, we lost the fight long ago

[icy wyvern]

Darktide was what, 60 bucks on launch?

[cyan moth]

its drip or drown in the hive city

[old matrix]

I wish you could earn more outfits for free

[icy wyvern]

To get my money's worth out of darktide, I'd have to have 60 hours of good, solid entertainment.

[old matrix]

We already got a system via achievements and coins

Just give us more

[icy wyvern]

I have 221 hours.

I reckon I got my money's worth and then some.

[tawdry pasture]

i played at release, its better now

like 5 chest and legs

[old matrix]

And we should always strive for better

[steel sluice]

I get the whole earn your cosmetics mentality for paid games but let’s be honest with how long it takes to develop games now vs how it used to most art team devs would probably get dropped after each release without the micro transactions

[icy wyvern]

Also, you can get outfits at the commisary, and some of them are drippy as hell

[tawdry pasture]

from achievements* comissary has more

[old matrix]

Not saying we should drop them just there needs to be more ways to earn stuff.
For instance there's only 2 backpacks to buy with coins
Green or blue
Want red? Black? Stuff that actually fits a lots of cosmetics?

I want more colours of what we got already just so people have choice

[icy wyvern]

I used the last of my free aquilas to get that dope oggy backpack

[steel sluice]

Oh yeah absolutely

[old matrix]

Like weapon skins, we got red and blue pattern
Where's green? Yellow? Purple?

[plucky flax]

People without excessive income be like

[icy wyvern]

inb4 weapon customization mod

[cyan moth]

I know I do, I know not everybody does

They also just gave us free stuff

plus

nothing BEATS

the commisary vet drip..

the white? or the fully fledged desert?

[icy wyvern]

leather jacket boys be like

[cyan moth]

It goes hard

[steel sluice]

Ehhhh I prefer my cadian gear

[icy wyvern]

If I load into a game with a desert camo vet, I know that dingus is gonna run off and get himself killed

[tawdry pasture]

tank top psyker

[icy wyvern]

I want my psyker to look as sweaty and run down as possible

[old matrix]

Which a lot were just reskins cough (I like them but they aren't special)

[icy wyvern]

If you give a mouse a cookie

[old matrix]

Like I noticed the new helmet for Pysker is just the red hood from an outfit I got + the mask everyone else got

[icy wyvern]

Tfw the moebian uniforms handed out for free are uniforms

[cyan moth]

fair

[icy wyvern]

The game has its flaws but you're awfully bent out of shape over something that's A) gotten better and B) completely inconsequential to the gameplay loop

[idle bay]

I would like to see Vostroyan-themed outfits in store. Vostroyan ogryn should be somthing with over the top bling

[tawdry pasture]

theyre good pieces too

both parts mix with convict sets

[steel sluice]

YES

[icy wyvern]

Not a fan of that shade of blue imho

[old matrix]

Sure but
A) Should always strive to be better
B) Gameplay loop is great but we can discuss everything about the game, can we?

[steel sluice]

I want to have a squad of vostroyan vets re enact that dumb video from years ago

[old matrix]

I may sound passionate about a lot of things over text when I'm just having a conversation. I don't really care but I find it interesting to talk about

[old matrix]

Yeah I wish there was a way to change colours or variants

Like most people wear red stuff and I want to match

[steel sluice]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgh43VUqrv8&pp=ygUTdm9zdHJveWFuIGZpcnN0Ym9ybg%3D%3D

[idle bay]

And also cybernetically-enhanced sets for all classes, with 80-90 % cybernetic implants 🙂 More than skitarii enhanced

[icy wyvern]

Crafting is required. To craft you need weapons, so the store is required. Cosmetics are completely optional and the handful of them that are paid are obviously going to be the best ones

Its a live service game, and with that comes upkeep costs. They're not going to get enough new users to maintain that, and if they did then the playerbase would be growing enough to raise the cost.

If I spend $10 on aquilas to make my ogryn look like a beast, after playing 200 hours of a game I spent $60 on, I hardly see that as furthing any kind of issue.

[old matrix]

And I'm speaking as someone who bought outfits. Its fine to have paid cosmetics but that doesn't mean we can't improve what you can get for free

Like again why do we only have red and blue for weapon skins

[steel sluice]

It only becomes an issue once people like the gta ceo get crazy ideas like charging a dollar for every hour of gameplay on top of that cause they only see dollar signs.

[plucky flax]

Join the iron hands!

The flesh is weak!

[idle bay]

Praise the Omnissiah!

i'm using cogs attachment on all of my weapons

[icy wyvern]

Hey uh, blazing spirit on force swords

based or cringe

[old matrix]

Based on what?

[violet oak]

Based on the peril inside

[old matrix]

I don't know the modifiers to weapons then to answer

[steel sluice]

Based on a true story

[late yew]

ok, i tried finally surge + nexus

feels ass

[kind jay]

like hot brazilian ass or sweaty walmart ass?

[late yew]

Whatever ass you don't like

[idle bay]

I perform important server maintenance task while chanting manual aloud.

[static needle]

Can brainburst be good for a disrupt destiny build using domeshield?

[steel sluice]

That’s a line worth stealing

[icy wyvern]

Probably gonna change infested for flak, but im thinking shred and blazing spirit stack well together

[steel sluice]

I assume blazing would be good on big stuff? I’m not exactly on expert on force swords

[icy wyvern]

So I've already got the perk that grants soulblaze on elite kill, and spreads soulblaze if you kill something that already has it

Might just set everything on fire

[steel sluice]

Ah so going all in on that

[icy wyvern]

gonna keep using my voidstrike though, the slap sound is too funny to pass up

[jovial narwhal]

what blessings do i want on a rapierdueling sword

[willow hazel]

1. Uncanny Strike
2. Your choice

[late yew]

BB is good with EP

have not tried DD

[native plover]

Hey do you guys prefer staves or guns as psyker?

[woeful zinc]

Staves - I do have a gun build as a guilty pleasure but find I need a shower after..

[hoary badge]

Staves because I can always play other classes for guns

I still play guns on a frequent whim regardless

[untold widget]

Supposedly, wildfire isn't spreading like you're expecting it to. Suppose a target dies with 15 stacks of soulfire. Only 4 of those stacks spread, and usually 1 stack to 4 targets only.

[native plover]

That should be changed then

more stacks is fun

[untold widget]

Yeah, the way it reads is "Drops up to 4 stacks on enemies around it until all stacks have been satisfied"

[eager mantle]

If the soul blaze blessing had soul blaze proc on an aoe around the target on crit I'd like it more.

[static needle]

What are dump stat(s) on trauma staff?

[thorn cedar]

@willow hazel are you a 15 or 30 stacks of DD kind of guy

[willow hazel]

15

[thorn cedar]

INFERIOR

but correct

[static needle]

does blast radius even matter for trauma staff?

ive heard someone say it doesnt

[willow hazel]

it matters a lot

[static needle]

yh figures hahah

[eager mantle]

I have run with 30. Fun when I get the stacks. DD will sometimes go back to being drunk and I won't see any targets

[thorn cedar]

ive been wondering how they might adjust the 30 stacks

but the buff it gives is straight nutso

[static needle]

does DD not function as it should?

[thorn cedar]

even adding five seconds to it is generous

[static needle]

in my experience having 30 stacks is only viable for gunpsyker and surge staff psyker

[eager mantle]

It does more than it used to. Actually consistent a lot of the times. Just sometimes it will e drunk again

[thorn cedar]

sometimes it likes to shuffle the light around like a discotheque

[eager mantle]

In the middle of shooting a target and then it changes lol

[thorn cedar]

literally me brainbursting a dude just for the blue to banana peel slip out from under him

[hoary badge]

At least it wasn't plasma'd by the vet

[thorn cedar]

but ya 30 stacks is a high but its too inconsistent

[fading river]

Hello friends. Is this a good roll?

[thorn cedar]

and the 15 is already plenty strong and VERY consistent

[eager mantle]

That too. 30 is nice. It's also far less consistent to keep it topped off over 15 for me

Also I didn't know you can proc perfect timing by whiffing melee

[neat summit]

Yes

[thorn cedar]

ya just swing at the air

[neat summit]

Cloud radius and burn good on purg staff

[fading river]

Thanks bud, very appreciated

[untold niche]

wait with stims, are they even going to make the game harder?

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[native plover]

30 stacks is higher damage potential but it's a lot easier to keep stacks up with the other bonus?

for DD

[potent echo]

15 stacks is all you need to oneshot mutants head with duelling sword

So that's all I need

[untold niche]

i rather not have stims :v
can't imagine if some noob pick up CDR

[native plover]

Also just so i know, do you lose one stack at the time like warp charges or all at once?

[untold niche]

like i rather no stim and game same difficulty

[potent echo]

Some noob pick up anything is alr part of current gameplay lol

[potent echo]

No you lose the whole stack

[native plover]

That's annoying

[potent echo]

It's a little poo

[untold niche]

ye but its going to get worse
and besides, i don't play any gun builds so ammo is a no concern personally.

[hoary badge]

Since vet is the class that deals with consumables I wonder if we're getting a stimm addict skill tree along with it

[obtuse river]

Saveable?

[idle bay]

Yes. Barrage for Nexus , Ranged crit damage for Crit chance and it's good to go.

[obtuse river]

Ty

[ripe yacht]

Ah, I see. Thank you. Not worth running then.

[icy wyvern]

Imagine continuous crit with rmb tho

the game slows down from just processing the numbers

[tawdry pasture]

i was tabbed out and and hear a spatially sounded ogryn sniff

its truly the future

[zinc phoenix]

Why do I never see other people use staff left click? Do you all forget it exists?

It’s actually pretty solid

Especially for trauma/surge where you cap out on range

[sick light]

LMB for surge helped me more than once ngl

Sometimes the local veteran is eating sand and can't be bothered to shoot the gunners halfway across the planet

[uneven drift]

Hi there. Which perks i want for trauma nowadays?

[vague chasm]

Guys do you have some interesting gun psyker builds? I tried experimenting with it but haven't found anything worthwhile/fun to use

I just find staves so much superior in mostly everything

[hearty oak]

I'm not home rn to share a build of mine but mine is high speed and mostly single target damage.
Just going down all of the right side, skiers for the extra power

Void will dumpster targets but it's too slow for me

[static needle]

Should I change anything on this staff? ive heard people suggest to run unarmored dmg perk with flak dmg

[vague chasm]

Thanks it would be really appreeciated, I'm probably doing my last tries because I can't really vibe with bullet wizard

[hearty oak]

It's something you have weave assail with. Mag dump, swap to shards, swap to melee or back to ranged and prioritize targets

[vague chasm]

Blessings are top notch, warp nexus could be a bit better but you will almost certainly get better results by switching crit chance to something else. Not aware which damage type is better tho.

[wind halo]

Wait does Force Sword Push Attack consume Peril

I blew up doing that

[summer prairie]

4% - peril resistance

[vague chasm]

Unfortunately for you yes, I think only on a successful push tho

[wind halo]

good to know

[hearty oak]

Think the next staff I try for is a surge or purge staff. I like something more instantaneous

Just been having too much fun with gunlugger ogryn so maybe a purge staff

[delicate stratus]

Surge is a fun staff, it's pretty instant to look at anything weaker than a gunner and zap it

[hearty oak]

Hold on. Does extra damage from smite stack with valued distraction?

From the ogryn's loyal defender

With the veterans mark keystone??

[untold widget]

does it even work? Or is it still bugged

[untold widget]

running Flak/Unarmored is for one shotting shotgunners even if you target a limb

[coarse tartan]

are these rolls too shit?

[surreal imp]

what should the last edit be. im guessing transfer peril doesnt really work on trauma?

[feral verge]

Transfer peril is useless on trauma

[surreal imp]

rending? warp flurry?

[feral verge]

That thing is close to bricked

Rending

[surreal imp]

sadge

[feral verge]

You want rending + flurry

High warp resistance is a must

[lunar hollow]

we need transfer plasteel as a blessing

u get 10 plasteel on weakspot hit

[untold widget]

On columnus only

just mag dump the back of a BoNurgle

[safe crystal]

@near wyvern You can cast BB at 100% peril without a EP stack without blowing up as long as you gain a stack with the BB, at least in the psykhanium. If you want to add it into your guide

Oh wait, its already in there

What sleep deprivation does to a mofo

[static needle]

Best blessings for trauma?

[round coyote]

Rending SW and Warp Flurry

Or

Warp Nexus and Blazing Spirit

Imo

[static needle]

How about warp nexus and surge?

[quasi junco]

i dont think surge is available for trauma

[round coyote]

Can you get Surge on trauma?

I didn’t think so

[quasi junco]

but warp nexus and surge are my fav voidstrike blessings

[safe crystal]

Surge is on trauma, but it doesnt apply to RMB

[round coyote]

Probably scratch that then.

Doesn’t sound all that useful if it only applies to primary fire.

[quasi junco]

LOL how useless

[round coyote]

So yeah, flurry and sw or nexus and BS.

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is bad and need buff.

[round coyote]

I don’t disagree that it needs a buff, but I def don’t think it’s bad.

[idle bay]

Massive buff! Like Rending is innate for Trauma staff

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

I like it. You think it need buff.

Pls make it happen fs

[ornate hamlet]

Uprising with a psyker is so hard!

[round coyote]

True!

Sedition scary 🥺

Trying to open your profile almost gave me a seizure

[frail sand]

waiting for WarpFurry subclass

[ornate hamlet]

IDC what staff or force sword. IDK what I'm doing or the learning curve is beyond my comprehension.

[plucky flax]

Never seen anyone do well with blaze trauma.

[round coyote]

My desperation for a servitor class is growing to unreasonable heights

My psyker yearns for the cold apathy of steel

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

The animations are pretty intense! ❤️ TY 4 noticing!

[red jacinth]

any suggestions for a surge staff build?

[idle bay]

520.000/1.000.000 heretics killed. I'm basically a noob.. need to play more. Cool farme as reward

[plucky flax]

Long way to go young palawan.

Padawan even how is this not a thing for my auto correct.

[idle bay]

just somewhat ~800-900 more missions to reach.

[plucky flax]

Build at the start of this vid.
https://youtu.be/qLyCvk-Dom4?si=uZlMemnaKC3zLLRK

Me solo clutch with it in 2nd vid
https://youtu.be/4G4_cXz19XM?si=0H8sOszHvrSoviiw

[hearty oak]

Blaze trauma? More like

Small ember headache

[idle bay]

Show him last video ...

[red jacinth]

is this good, or is the damage too low?

[normal grotto]

Would this be the right chat to ask for help with the psyker cliffhanger achievement? I think I'd need a second person in a private game

[patent hatch]

damage to low tbh

[patent hatch]

the LFG chats

[plucky flax]

It's usable. Low damage is obviously not ideal. But if you have no trauma staff yet might as well gamble.

[viscid matrix]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[rare storm]

You can be a team player

Be a rendering peasant

[quasi junco]

hey if I want a deimos that only does two things, has deflector, and kills crushers, would I build it like this?

with venting shriek and kinetic deflection you can build up peril by blocking, and use that to get to 85

then go back to blocking so your burn does its job

wow with deflector and kinetic deflection you can tank an overhead

builds up like 80% peril tho

[vast yew]

You want Maniacs to one tap Mutants with no other buffs

Otherwise, can’t go wrong with Uncanny and Deflector

[bleak tulip]

is there some kind of thing going on where sometimes hishock just spawns double specials

Ive never seen this many snipers in my life outside of a sniper gauntlet, it literally always spawned two

thats like double the special count of the last two hishocks I played

[glossy ember]

the opposite can also happen

i had a HISTG auric damnation game where the top damage was like 300k because nothing spawned lol

[tall mango]

me when my peril starts getting too high

[strong gulch]

Someone else was posting bonkers special spawns.

[tall mango]

i fuckin love gunker

[strong gulch]

Director is on some shit

[zinc phoenix]

Too bad we can’t do the big blue smackdown thing

[rare storm]

depends on how the director's feeling that mission tbh

[worn canopy]

What makes uncanny so good on warp swords

[fresh reef]

They have mediocre damage against armor

Uncanny in general is amazing for negating Carapace

[worn canopy]

Gotcha

[long wharf]

it's why I have no fear of stabbing the armored guys in the face with my dueling sword

poke poke dead

[bleak tulip]

:|

[long wharf]

looks like purge at work

[bleak tulip]

nope

[topaz willow]

Yeesh overworking yourself there

[long wharf]

that's a massive disparity in kills

major horde clear

[bleak tulip]

all void

[long wharf]

fair, void slaps.

[bleak tulip]

people just still havent worked out where to stand in first defense phase carnival

[topaz willow]

Nexus + surge?

[bleak tulip]

so two people died

yeah

second guy was a late join thats why their stuff is so low

this is why you take shriek

[steel flame]

So when do you guys think the update will drop?

Tuesday maybe

I hope

[long wharf]

nobody knows

for FartShack's sake, it needs to be before they all go on vacation

[supple skiff]

oh yeah

forgot about they're vacation shenanigans

[long wharf]

the utter shitstorm that'll happen if it doesn't release before their vacation will be epic

[ornate hamlet]

meanwhile https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/18923em/disrupt_destiny_is_just_a_hassle_to_play_and/

[steel flame]

Bets on whether it introduces a game breaking bug to psyker that won't be patched till January? Anyone?

[long wharf]

DD is bad, in other news, water is wet.

[ornate hamlet]

local capital Gamer makes a good point and gets ragged on because "hurr durr how can u not drop everything ur doing 2 kill this random enemy"

[steel flame]

I refuse to let this slander continue

[long wharf]

I'll give 2:1 odds that one of the new weapons' blessings will be broken

[steel flame]

Dd is great

[bleak tulip]

meanwhile I did that previous match with DD

[ornate hamlet]

DD is great, it's its targeting that sucks

[supple skiff]

they better not brick voids like they did surge

[long wharf]

and another blessing will have unintended interactions with blitz or abilities

[ornate hamlet]

And well, it could definitely drop charges slower instead of all at a time

I hate not playing zoom-zoom with my team and losing all stacks

[steel flame]

The stuff it highlights is stuff I'm gonna kill anyway who cares if it's random

[ornate hamlet]

EP stays forever and WS takes two years to drop

[bleak tulip]

you get DD back in like 5 headshots tho

[ornate hamlet]

Because your allies can kill the target and a lot of times it just targets some random-ass dude behind a wall

[bleak tulip]

especially easy if you find a pack of like 3 bruisers while moving

[steel flame]

It's certainly not a keystone for passive psykers which is why I think people just call it bad

[ornate hamlet]

When I play it and look at my buffs, I nearly always have full stacks or none

And when I look at none I'm like "wait, has it always been like this?"

[hearty oak]

I'd just like it to stop being disrupted randomly in the middle of a mission

[ornate hamlet]

And when it's full I have no idea what I did differently

[bleak tulip]

the answer lies in the first part, while youre fighting youre not paying attention to the stacks, chances are theyre full because roamers just get tagged in the horde and you kill em

[ornate hamlet]

Like, the problem is that I'm anything but a passive psyker

I'm that idiot rushing a crusher patrol with a toothpick

[bleak tulip]

every time I recorded my gameplay to check my stack uptime its usually full during bigger fights without me paying attention to it

sure it sucks when people take a kill they couldnt even have known you need but such is life

its not a huge issue imo

[calm violet]

I have been going back and forth on DD, since it was recommended the other day. : /

[bleak tulip]

when it counts you get full stacks by just fighting

[azure bridge]

I know the guide says put unyielding on this but would I be remiss putting stamina on it? or BCR?

[bleak tulip]

unless its a pure horde wave and then you didnt need that damage anyway

[steel flame]

It spikes damage pretty hard with even 15 stacks

[supple skiff]

played enough psyker on release, have been cock blocked by teammates enough for one life time

ill take EP or WS thanks

[bleak tulip]

imo EP doesnt do anything for you on higher difficulties like 80% of the time

[steel flame]

My solution to this is just to be faster and kill harder than everyone else and then nobody can kill my little blue outlines cause there are all dead already

[bleak tulip]

you never get a damage boost unless youre spammin blitz, one of which doesnt even do damage

[supple skiff]

not using EP now but when i did it was with scryers and BB

[bleak tulip]

BB is still too slow for hishock imo, even with EP and ass ail kinda falls off there too with half the horde being bulwarks and crushers

[supple skiff]

could chain ragers then have the peril and dmg stacks to clean house with void

now im running smite with true aim and a surge void

[calm violet]

Which of these do you guys think is better for a Gunker? I have gone back and forth. Playing on Damnation.

[supple skiff]

which is an interaction I wish I knew about sooner

[calm violet]

God I wish BB were just a smidge faster. It's such a fun power.

[steel flame]

Show me your full tree

[fluid knot]

Drippy DoT build

[steel flame]

I'll help

[calm violet]

That's the top

[plucky flax]

You're saying buff assail?

Give it back 2s?

[bleak tulip]

[fluid knot]

No, make it 5s

[plucky flax]

[calm violet]

https://tenor.com/view/smokin-themask-jimcarrey-classic-creepy-gif-4450254

Yooooo, that's a hot look.

[fluid knot]

Cheers dude

[calm violet]

I wouldn't argue with that. xD

[bleak tulip]

until you get stuck in a grate with your silly peg leg

[calm violet]

Dead. xD

[fluid knot]

Someone didnt get the peg leg set

[supple skiff]

one way to disrupt your destiny

I want this for a set pls

[calm violet]

What do you think of the full tree?

[calm violet]

Yes.

[supple skiff]

proper psychic hood fuck your toilet bowl

[steel flame]

Aight here we go. Swap mind in motion to the other one. Get rid of 30% replenishment for assail, add warp kills give you toughness and peril generation gives you toughness. I find the headshot feat for scrier to provide better dps then less peril generation unless you are using a staff

[fluid knot]

God damn this knife looks good

[steel flame]

You probably don't need the 30% quell speed

[bleak tulip]

cooler knife

[steel flame]

The 30% replenishment speed on assail is mostly a wasted feat slot

What gun are you using btw

[calm violet]

I have been testing with that 30% reduction, and it makes it sooo much easier to maintain scrier for very long times. Though the rest of that seems very solid.

[patent hatch]

[steel flame]

Fair enough

[patent hatch]

gun psyker discussion?

[calm violet]

Mk5 Auto

Columnus

[supple skiff]

surprised FS doesnt take issue with mods they let you look more drippy

[calm violet]

Yeah, I'm a dirty Gunker. lol

[steel flame]

It's kinda better burst damage vs sustained damage so it's more preference than anything

[patent hatch]

hell yeah

[calm violet]

It makes it sooo easy to max out scrier, which lets you dunk on things. But I can see that.

[steel flame]

I never use warp charges with scrier because you lose any damage you get from warp charges immediately upon pressing f

[calm violet]

The big thing I can't settle on, is DD versus warp charges though. DD is less reliable, but offers more potential damage, and doesn't vanish on activation. Warp gives only slightly less damage once stacked, stacks and maintains much more easily, offers better toughness regent, and allows scrier to be up much more often.

[steel flame]

I always use dd

[red jacinth]

is shred or rampage better for the duelling swords?

[spice veldt]

and DD gives you two more points to work with

[ornate hamlet]

I take shred

[calm violet]

I can see that. But it makes scrier up almost twice as often.

[spice veldt]

and has better nodes along its path

[supple skiff]

have a full scryer buff with 6 stacks of WS is something tho lol

[steel flame]

I like rampage for more damage in hordes, but shred is also great. Both perform very well

[calm violet]

Those are both very strong points. But I want the quell speed anyway. I have found it helps with maintaining scrier.

[supple skiff]

hassel and a have to get going

[steel flame]

Can't argue with that

[red jacinth]

yay, same

[calm violet]

I feel silly asking. But, what is shred?

[spice veldt]

i'd always run rampage if not playing melee/monstrosity maelstroms

esp since it's still bugged

[calm violet]

Ohhhhh, gotcha. My brain was still on the talents. xD

[patent hatch]

What melee weapon?

[red jacinth]

dueling sword

[bleak tulip]

this is low key why I run it over charges

about the same damage as 4 charges, more headshot and you get the zoomies

[spice veldt]

i will never path through puppet master unless I was doing a deranged max toughness build

they really should ignore the themes of a talent and go for balancing in cases like this

move kinetic deflection to the left tree

[bleak tulip]

I should run one without the quell speed see how I like it

[calm violet]

I tend to run an illisi. I find it helps in dealing with armored targets. But I miss my dueling sword something awful. : /

[radiant sleet]

That would screw me so hard if they did that lol but I see why you want it

But I love deflection + true aim

[calm violet]

Deflection and true aim are both incredible.

[bleak tulip]

oof that 30% quell speed makes a lot more of a difference than you'd wanna skip

[bleak tulip]

youre crazy

also how the fuck is that 30%

lmao

thats like half the time

[spice veldt]

it's reducing the quell tick interval by 30%

so it translates into 1/(1 - 0.3) = 1.43x faster quelling

[bleak tulip]

that sounds more like it

[calm violet]

Yeah, that quell speed is no fucking joke.

[bleak tulip]

dont think I played a match without it since 13

[calm violet]

Yeah, it's insane.

[radiant sleet]

I wish I could take it but I run assail/shriek/EP/true aim so I'd have to give up true aim or perilous

Well perilous + evasion

[steel flame]

I've been messing with a full deflector build and Ive gotten to the point where I can block 10 gunners for a full minute

[bleak tulip]

+9 stam?

[steel flame]

9 stamina, 75% block efficiency with kinetic deflection

[calm violet]

That's insane.

[calm violet]

Do you not like puppet master? 50% coherency seems pretty solid to me.

[bleak tulip]

arco doesnt believe in helping his team

[spice veldt]

coherency is basically a non-mechanic as far as I'm concerned

[bleak tulip]

but 17% CDR

[spice veldt]

the team sticking together is good regardless, and the benefits you get from the coherency mechanic are peepee poopoo and not deterministic and certainly not something I'm going to be keeping in the back of my head

[bleak tulip]

think of the quell speed

[spice veldt]

nuh uh

[charred scroll]

all i know is sith lightning has been so fun and hilariously good at crowd control that I functionally never use my actual weapons. Why should i ever put actual work in to kill things when my teamates can do that for me?

[bleak tulip]

one day theyll take away your crit strings and youll come crawling back to staff

and then youll be sorry

sorry that you have to spend that extra talent point

[ornate hamlet]

some people unironically think this and I get big sad

[spice veldt]

cuz you're the type of player who makes me have to walk in a grid pattern to kill a groaner/poxwalker horde instead of just letting them come to the team

[bleak tulip]

for people like that I hope theyll add enough damage to smite so it at least kills hordes or something

[charred scroll]

lol fair, counterpoint, the lightning stops fucntionally everything in it's tracks and if you're smart enough to use it quick enough, nearly anything like that never gets anywhere near close enough to ANYONE to be a threat, and the damage might be shit, but deals enough to let funcitonally anybody one shot whatever is stunlocked

[bleak tulip]

because as it stands all youre doing is making it harder to cleave trash

[ornate hamlet]

The problem is

You don't need to stop everything

[bleak tulip]

like yeah if you use it on a mixed horde when theres trouble, okay, but too many people just smite every fuckin collection of 3 and a half dudes which is just a waste of time

[ornate hamlet]

The game isn't Dark Souls where the less enemies you fight, the better

[charred scroll]

^ i mean yea, using it on three randos is useless, even for cc purposes

[ornate hamlet]

The individual enemy is hardly enough of a threat to justify all the spam some people do

Even hordes aren't threatening enough

[charred scroll]

you would be surprised, given randoms

[ornate hamlet]

And for stuff like gunner patrols, there's the magical combo

[bleak tulip]

I dont use smite at all unless there is 5 crushers currently about to send my tunnel visioned pub vet to pound town tbh

[ornate hamlet]

Stun and kill

Imagine a world where a psyker RMBs the shooters and walks in to stab them instead of yelling "SOMEONE COME KILL THESE ENEMIES"

[charred scroll]

lol

[calm violet]

I do that. lol

Gunker. lol

[charred scroll]

I've always enjoyed the idea of suppourt skills, so the lightning stuff, regen dome shield, ect. They let me live out this idea of helping my team instead of just doing the same exact "one shot everything" boring mess, but slightly different flavors. Might not be meta but it's fun and has worked for me so far

[calm violet]

Hey, if that's fun for you, then do it.

[charred scroll]

same reason i played so much ogryn tank with the taunt and shield

[calm violet]

You should play in a way that makes you happy.

[charred scroll]

or vet with their aoe ress

like, I get why people would be annoyed by it but like

it's legit the only interesting thing about nearly ANYTHING the skills have to offer to me

[calm violet]

Doesn't bother me

[plucky flax]

10 deaths xd

[charred scroll]

in one match?

[plucky flax]

Yeah between the other 3 dudes.

I had to clutch 3 times.

[charred scroll]

OH i thought you meant like, you died 10 times, just you, in one match

was gonna say

[plucky flax]

No I die 11 times.

[charred scroll]

takes some actual skill

lol

[glossy ember]

he's top 1% sedition gamer

he can't die

[plucky flax]

There was a lvl 350+ vet but he also died 3 times.

Vet so squishy need buff.

[glossy ember]

his fault he's not playing big vet (kickback ogryn)

[wise pecan]

Unrelated: in basically every psyker build I see that uses brain burst, they pick up kinetic flayer. Why? Doesn't it still operate on a universal cooldown (ie popping a groaner means you won't pop the crusher in front of you)?

[plucky flax]

It's funny cos I ress 2 guys then they immiedately went to attack enemies instead of ressing the 3rd guy.

I was baffled and just watched.

[lethal lagoon]

They might be letting you have the penance or whatever

[plucky flax]

So kind of them.

[lethal lagoon]

Lmao, no pub is going to be that thoughtful, but it's nice to think.

🙂

[plucky flax]

I already have it so long ago though.

Been clutching in sedition since release.

Last 2 for me.

We need more repair missions.

Currently it's only power matrix.

[lethal lagoon]

You did 250 Hab Dreykos?

[plucky flax]

Yeah I grinded hab dreyko.

Pre 13.

[lethal lagoon]

Actual pyschopath

[plucky flax]

Post 13 hab dreyko end event becomes too hard though.

[lethal lagoon]

Hab's fine on Ogryn

Just have to speedrun the ending.

[plucky flax]

[kind jay]

smite is my permanent pick for hab

[plucky flax]

If I really want to win on hab dreyko I go stealth zealot.

Because nobody ever do end event objectives.

[kind jay]

if I'm with a friend i have them scan while i do nothing but spam fs push

[calm violet]

Not sure what you mean?

[lethal lagoon]

I once stopped doing it and we straight up just fought for 10+ minutes, killing shit.

[plucky flax]

Also after I do the scan I book it onto the raptor.

People chill around then die all the time.

I'm like bruh just run.

[lethal lagoon]

I kinda wanna run hab dreyko on a low lvl character and just see what happens if I don't do a single objective.

I won't let them die or the mission fail. So we might be there for eternity.

[plucky flax]

Regular damn hab dreyko end event doesn't get crazy.

[wise pecan]

Basically every time I see a build that uses brain burst, they grab the augment node that gives the 10% chance to auto-brain-burst. My question is: why? That perk seems like shit to me. It has a 15 second cooldown, and mathematically it's much more likely to go off on some random poxwalker than a crusher (especially if you're using an AoE weapon ie purgatus)

[lethal lagoon]

I think crazy is relative.

[plucky flax]

It's only high intensity and above where the ragers gang and specials keep coming out endlessly.

[lethal lagoon]

Have you lvled anything recently?

[plucky flax]

No but I've played regular hab dreyko recently.

[lethal lagoon]

But that's still 30+ kitted with talents and shit.

I think it's worth lvling something, to see the changes from how it used to be. You are getting rager gangs too and they just murder the poor lvlers.

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

If you don't have a second "melk's" psyker, that's always an option

[plucky flax]

I would level another zealot if inventory is shared within the same class.

Since I want the female agitator voice.

[lethal lagoon]

Blessings are 🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

But alas.

Not my near perfect antax.

[lethal lagoon]

It's a lot easier than you think to kit a second char

You might even get a better antax and cry about it.

[frail sand]

stuff should just be shared account wide imo

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know if encouraging smurfing would be a good idea.

But that would be nice I suppose.

[plucky flax]

Hard to beat this. Would need to be very lucky to get double t4 perks.

[calm violet]

Sorry, had toddler aggro. I mean, you have a point that it is likely to go off on randos. But it really adds solid boss/big tanky plate dude dps. Those portions of the fights can be long enough to give time for a couple free bb procs.

I mean, BB in general isn't amazing to begin with. So the reality is none of it's nodes are super great. lol

[lethal lagoon]

Depending on your weapon, kinetic flayer procs basically at the start of the next "encounter", so saying it's random isn't too accurate.

Esp if using a gun or purg

very controllable

[calm violet]

With a purg it is still very possible to pop on a rando.

I think it's best with a gun, to be honest.

If psykers had better ammo efficiency, I could see BB being great for Gunkers.

[lethal lagoon]

[wise pecan]

What's more likely, though: it proccing on the three crushers, or the 20 poxwalkers you're also hitting?

[calm violet]

Thus why I said better on a gun.

[wise pecan]

Ye with a gun it's understandable, since you can prioritize it

[calm violet]

Yeah, I think the talent is sick with an autogun. It pretty much procs every 16 to 17 seconds.

And, if you pay attention to cycles, you can pick with ease.

[glossy ember]

how's assail for horde clear

[calm violet]

Amazing

[wise pecan]

I'd say it depends on the nature of the horde

Great for ambushes

[calm violet]

That is likely more accurate.

[wise pecan]

Less great for hab dreyko

[glossy ember]

can it compete with a horde clearing melee weapon or not really

[wise pecan]

I'd say it has a different job than a horde clearing melee

[lethal lagoon]

It can absolutely compete by making your horde clearing weapon users lose their minds.

But you run out of daggers pretty fast if it's just horde.

[glossy ember]

i see

[plucky flax]

It's the best horde clear.

Only limited by lack of ammunition.

[wise pecan]

I wouldn't use it as my primary horse clearing weapon, but it's great for dealing with shooter packs and such

[calm violet]

I use it as my primary horde clear. lol

[plucky flax]

Same Xd

[glossy ember]

is the piercing node a necessity for it? i imagine right

[wise pecan]

This is a good answer yeah. While you have daggers, it's practically unrivaled. When you run out, you will want to have a substitute

[calm violet]

That's why I run an illisi as back up.

As well as an autogun.

[wise pecan]

Personally I prefer purgatus/trauma staff for my horde clear

[calm violet]

Purg is great. Not a fan of trauma.

[plucky flax]

Yeah trauma is bad and need buff.

[wise pecan]

I tried it recently while penance grinding, and I can see why it has a following

[vapid lichen]

yea trauma should apply more stacks of burn

at least 5 instead of 3

[glossy ember]

alright

i'll give it a shot bc i'm not feeling like playing smite anymore

ty lads

[vapid lichen]

fs should remove the cap on the stacks too

[glossy ember]

rip the -5% peril gen node tho

assail is just lmb for hordes right

[vapid lichen]

i always just dump all the assail knives and then move on

[glossy ember]

when do you use rmb

far targets?

[vapid lichen]

long range targets yeah

[glossy ember]

kk

[vapid lichen]

right click is real nice if you stack true aim first too

[glossy ember]

i'll report how it feels on my knife / surge build

[static needle]

Is spamfiring with the surge/nexus blessings a good way to play? Ive found that this it is really nice because rate of fire synergizes well with crit chance

[spice veldt]

you'll want to charge it to some extent for most situations

keep in mind that both the damage and cleave of the projectile scales with the charge

[echo turtle]

Assail works real good in a gun build, just use it to save ammo is a good way to think about it

With empowered psionics it's really good

[glossy ember]

oh i can imagine yeah

i'm going to try it on my meme build though

[static needle]

i heard the surge blessing doesnt apply on charge attacks for trauma staff

[echo turtle]

Let's say you dump 10 shards Into a mixed horde with ragers or gunners

[spice veldt]

oh is this for trauma?

yeah don't use surge on trauma

unless you want to do an LMB spam build

[static needle]

well thats what im considering

[echo turtle]

If you have 3 charges, it only costs 7 charges as 3 are free, you will probably earn back 3-4 and you can push out another volley of shards, that likely got empowered again

[static needle]

yeah thats what im thinking. Im considering trauma cause then I can run the nodes that build less peril and synergize better

[glossy ember]

this'll do

[static needle]

Getting psykinetics aura is really nice as it can fill the same purpose as warp charges that reduce cooldown. And I can get additional talents like mettle and perfect timing because DD doesnt take a lot of talent points to reach

Btw. How good is brainburst at taking down big targets when you're running disrupt destiny?

cause i know for a fact that brainburst hits weakspots, so wouldnt DD's dmg bonuses apply to brainburst?

[echo turtle]

I tried your surge scriers build and found it was a little awkward to keep the buffs.

I didn't run it with assail though, maybe that helps it flow a lot better

[glossy ember]

i dunno i've never tried assail

it's a bit awkward but you eventually get the hang of it

[digital narwhal]

I love Assail

mostly because I play Gun Psyker

:^)

[static needle]

Is this with a staff?

[glossy ember]

yeah

[static needle]

and which staff and what blessings

[glossy ember]

surge staff

nexus flurry

[static needle]

hmm

[glossy ember]

i don't recommend

(but it's fun)

[static needle]

doesnt surge staff generate a shite load of peril?

[glossy ember]

yeah

that's the fun part

[static needle]

oh so you mean its fun cause its risky

[glossy ember]

i run this with illisi usually

but i'm trying out combat knife instead

[static needle]

ok well in all seriousness, could a spamfire build with voidstrike or trauma staff work?

you would need the surge blessing

[glossy ember]

idk

[static needle]

here is my idea of what u could do

[static needle]

btw have u tried this before?

[vapid lichen]

i play this sometimes

[static needle]

which staff?

[vapid lichen]

void only

surge doesnt work on trauma rmb

and void can cc almost as well

[static needle]

cause I think trauma would perhaps work best cause of the fact that you have a lot of versatility in one staff

[vapid lichen]

ive tried both dd and warp charges but i think i like warp charges more because it's super easy to keep them up

[echo turtle]

Yeah, I think I need some.more.practice on the timi g and flow

It works pretty similarly to the creeping flames build, it just needs to spend more time in melee manualling clearing horde

You run it with illisi? I was considering mk1 dclaw

[vapid lichen]

although dropping a fat void shot through a crowd to slam into the dd target is pretty sick

[spice veldt]

I know that @feral verge runs a scrier's surge trauma build

[vapid lichen]

i had a 540-something surge/nexus trauma build for a while 💀

i think i deleted the staff though because i dont have it anymore lmaoooo

[static needle]

If you were to run this with brainburst and shield, wouldnt that synergize pretty well? You dont need to worry that much about toughness because shield + psykinetics aura, you can do horde control because trauma staff. You can do single target with brainburst. Am i wrong?

[west nacelle]

siblings, i must ask you. is this a good staff roll?

[proven blaze]

perfect staff. If you don't take it to Auric Maelstrom, you will be branded as a heretic

[vapid lichen]

r u upgrading like a lvl 1 staff? lmfao

[vapid lichen]

my problem with this is that it doesn't actually do anything well

it can do a lot of things but nothing particularly well

especially in terms of damage output

[static needle]

Doesnt brain burst work really well with DD?

[west nacelle]

i fuckin hate BB

[vapid lichen]

like okay you have decent single target damage and absolutely nothing else

[static needle]

yes i do? horde control with trauma and illisi

[vapid lichen]

trauma without blazing or rending? idk i dont count that

illisi is good at least

[spice veldt]

trauma is fine without blazing or rending

and you have the illisi anyways

[vapid lichen]

idk maybe it's just me, but it just sounds like it would be extremely limp esp if you tried to bring it into histg or smth

[static needle]

alright well what would u do for horde control in a LMB spamfire voidstrike build? @vapid lichen

[sacred crane]

Torture a psyker by making them use scrier with trauma staff whole game

[long wharf]

I mean, that's like saying void is fine without flurry, nexus, or surge

[vapid lichen]

right click

[strong gulch]

Trauma is better without slotted flooring. 😭

[spice veldt]

it is fine though

esp with regards to single-target

i think the damage of bolts on crits is quite undervalued

[long wharf]

it's pure CC without the good blessings

[static needle]

could I take a look at ur talent tree for that build, perhaps? :=)

[quasi junco]

why are my auric games going better than standard?

[long wharf]

which can be situationally useful, but not universally useful

given how it spreads enemies out

[quasi junco]

game director be fucked up

[spice veldt]

sure, if you're just spamming trauma

obviously, if your playstyle is just spamming the RMB, then it's less useful without blazing spirit or rending shockwave

[glossy ember]

devil claw 4, illisi. Mainly illisi because massive horde clear with empowered special to make space.
trying out combat knife rn

[spice veldt]

but they're going to be using trauma for the LMB spam as well

[quasi junco]

lol who plays trauma to spam lmb....

[long wharf]

eww

who spams surge LMB?

[quasi junco]

only good stave lmb is purg for the stagger

[rare storm]

surge lmb is strong af

[spice veldt]

henk and mankaran

but optimality isn't exactly the concern here anyways

[long wharf]

surge staff lmb is decidedly not "strong af"

[vapid lichen]

quell cancelled lmbs are gas as fuck with surge and nexus

[strong gulch]

LMB smap lol

[rare storm]

Skill issue

[willow hazel]

does quell canceling even do anything with left click?

[rare storm]

needing to aim is your crutch

[long wharf]

yes, yours

[rare storm]

[spice veldt]

i think quell cancelling isn't need nowadays after they improved the timings on the LMB?

[rare storm]

now not so much with the added fire rate

[spice veldt]

you can prob get some more out of quell-cancelling but I'm not manually doing that or making a macro for it

[vapid lichen]

yeah if you're good at timing it you can easily get like an extra 40% firerate

[plucky flax]

How do y'all like the thumbnail for this?

[long wharf]

lame, like most youtube video thumbnails

[plucky flax]

Snuck in my favourite emote.

[long wharf]

it'll fit right in

[vapid lichen]

good quell cancel lmb spam is absolutely vile

[plucky flax]

[quasi junco]

hey you can have only one of these for a trauma blaze build, what would you choose?

[rare storm]

it's not that much of a boost rn, maybe before yes

[vapid lichen]

before which patch

[rare storm]

15

[vapid lichen]

oh did they buff it

[willow hazel]

yeah it already shoots so fast.

[vapid lichen]

I tested it in last patch

[rare storm]

Somebody did the recent math, with the fire rate changes, it's probably only ~10% boost

not worth the effort but still "faster"

[willow hazel]

10% more blaze bolts, 100% more arthritis

[rare storm]

They made the lmb fire more consistent with the animation or SOMETHING along that lines

[spice veldt]

trauma LMB

[rare storm]

I don't remember the exact patch detail

[spice veldt]

laspistol

the lmb isn't really that bad

it just feels bad

[quasi junco]

arent all stave lmbs identical save for purg?

[spice veldt]

yeah I'm just being erroneously overly specific

[willow hazel]

The problem is it has so much supression, that the enemies change positions causing follow up attacks to miss

[willow hazel]

surge's has an extra 20% crit

[rare storm]

Not really, there's the subject of crit rate from surge