psyker-class

[thorn cedar]

just violently dismissing big metal assholes

[solar sand]

can nurgle blessed mutants shrug off a shield wall stun?

[untold widget]

yah they just go through

[severe folio]

think my force sword is broken

[supple skiff]

idk about the sword but your wrist is looking thirce cursed

[potent echo]

Force wrist

[dark swift]

The wording on this passive is a bit confusing but what it actually means is the higher peril I have I gain 20% damage?

[severe folio]

at 100 peril you get 20% damage buff

hm hold on

let me reword

you get damage buff depend on how high your peril, up to 20% damage buff

[dawn sphinx]

Am I the only one who sometimes has severe issues placing the shield down sometimes? As in. . . It won't bloody trigger for several seconds until you block for a bit?

[dark swift]

ah ty!

[severe folio]

sound like a lag

[dawn sphinx]

That absolute jank has gotten me killed too many times.

[foggy breach]

which are teh rare ones?

[foggy breach]

me spammin F surrounded by a horde and dying trying to get it out? yeah

[dawn sphinx]

Yes, exactly that! Not just if I am surrounded, sometimes if a few average non elite/special Johns shoot at me, while my toughness is low.

But it consistently bugs out when it`s the most inconvenient, that's for sure!

[potent echo]

Duelling swords esp

Probably bugged

[dawn sphinx]

You know. . . That might be it? I didn't stop playing with the Dueling Sword for a long time now.

[foggy breach]

might be some kind of recovery frames thing

could be that it's working right for chaining into other attacks but isn't letting you chain into ult or something

[dawn sphinx]

I can't tell. What I can tell you though is how absolutely lethal that gets.

[near wyvern]

For stabbing anything. If you can funnel a horde onto a door L1H2 is also your best horde clear and you use it to melee bosses as well.

Did I mention the H2 can one shot a mutant head with correct stats + perks?

[fluid knot]

Stub-Sword

[solar sand]

top tier emp gift

im getting fed to the throne for sure with this kind of treatment

[severe folio]

how much burn stack is that

[solar sand]

14

[severe folio]

horrible staff

[solar sand]

oh i know

it was impressively bad

[severe folio]

kinda like this rapier

[solar sand]

im looking for a better one to run aurics, with flurry swapped for nexus, as idk that the flurry does too much since charge doesn't increase damage

[severe folio]

charge does increase damage

the raw damage of the purgatus

[solar sand]

im seeing the same numbers

ok its 1 difference

[vapid lichen]

better off swapping focused channeling for nexus and just not getting hit

[sacred crane]

siblings what outfit do you prefer

[severe folio]

the krieg

[solar sand]

nah i like it on this

the uptime on cc not being threatened is super nice

so i should have (upto) 5+21+20+5=51% crit chance right?

[spice veldt]

sounds right yeah

only thing is psykers have 7.5% base crit chance instead of 5%

[severe folio]

so its 53.5

[fluid knot]

Was that changed with P-13 Arco? I coulda sworn it was 5% on old tree

[severe folio]

old tree show psyker base crit chance ?

[scarlet meadow]

think i could get into a call with someone that has a good gun psyker build? trying to get into it and wanna see the talent tree/gun you use plus the blessings

pls @ me as well

[spice veldt]

ye it was changed with p13

we stole the 2.5% from ogryn

[fluid knot]

Thats fair, he copied Psyker's homework for the CDR skill on elite kills

[fluid knot]

It didnt show it no, but it was worked out i beleive from datamining

[idle bay]

I've seen in Bug reports that crit chance is not additive !

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crit-chance-not-additive/88167

[severe folio]

i see

[idle bay]

And it's aknowledged as bug probably because it's not stated anywhere in descriptions that crit chance is not additive.

[spice veldt]

interesting

[severe folio]

has it ever been state that crit chance is multiplicative

[spice veldt]

i know that in patch 12 and before, crab remarked that there was no multiplicative crit chance stuff

but who knows nowadays

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

I doubt they will change old stuff, they only add new stuff

[hoary badge]

Except adding new stuff always breaks old stuff one way or another

[potent echo]

Something something tech debt

[solar sand]

new horde clear weapon?

[idle bay]

Yes

[proven stirrup]

Nasty

[untold widget]

I can never get into devils claw's

I need my anti armor melee too much

don't have time to hit crushers in the head 15 times

[foggy breach]

nexus is a must since you get double burn on crit and then flurry is decent since you can just half charge-release-half charge- release

[foggy breach]

i think the parry hurts them

[untold widget]

not enough

if I need to hit something more than 3 times, I'm just not going to be the one who kills that thing. because in that time frame, there's another wave of spelites coming from behind that will need to get dealt with.

dueling 4, deimos, always gonna be my go-to melee

[fluid knot]

Decent enough roll, though ideally you'd want Shred/Rampage

It'll work tho

[untold widget]

I've been running combat knife lately, which is like a 4-5 shot kill and that's pushing it. Any more than 2 and it gets dicey real quick

[lofty osprey]

is there a psyker levelling guide cause i'm finding this class very difficult to play

[onyx sentinel]

I FOUND IT LADS

[hoary badge]

The Psyker Atheneum could help if you haven't checked it out already

[lofty osprey]

where can i find it?

[hoary badge]

It's in the pins

[ocean cipher]

how in the fresh fuck am i supposed to do the "Warp Battery" penance

this shit is ass

[onyx sentinel]

if you play on damnation it's pretty easy to maintain

trivial actually, if you're using purgatus and In Fire Reborn

[solar sand]

heresy ^ is also fairly easy

to keep the stacks

or shock

or auric for funzies but youll want you ability there

[half iron]

i got mine a few hours ago on an auric.

felt so cute

[plucky flax]

Give up on real human teammates. Embrace bots.

[idle bay]

Tricky to do solo. But super easy to do with a team.
Method:

1. use LFG channel to find a group to help you with penance (it's really easy - there are plenty of helpful players there)
2. choose a mission that have hacking event (Those event spawn enemies endlessly until event is ended). So with cooperation of your team
   you will have steady supply of targets to kill to keep up Warp Charges for required duration.

[idle bay]

bots are better shot than significant part of player base, they don't take 1+ seconds to aim.

Bots are virtually immune to basic horde.

Bots stay in coherency.

But suck badly in every other aspect of game 🙂

[plucky flax]

Bots make me do objectives by myself.

[half iron]

bots are veterans and i must hate veterans

so i hate bots

[lunar quail]

can anyone give me a link to a good gun psyker build?

[idle bay]

Bots are old version of veterans with 200 Toughness and 270 health.

[severe folio]

damn thats perfect 😔

[idle bay]

And i think that 200 toughness on Bot-Veterans is deliberate - That is how Fatshark trolls veteran players.

[sacred crane]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1GKVbA3sCmmMwQ/d1337gldh2oy?invite=cr-MSx1OGMsMTkxMDIyMjAyLA

[fluid knot]

Cleave blessings are a trap mate

They're kinda a bit ass at the minute, with the only exception being Bromentum, an im not even sure that can be classed as a cleave blessing anymore

[severe folio]

why are they bad

[severe folio]

why are they bad

[potent echo]

You need one cleave blessing on Dclaw or chainsword

[severe folio]

i thought so too

those weapon have such wide swing, wraith and SS let them hit so much

[fluid knot]

Because Shred gives psuedo-rending by way of crit, and Rampage is an actual power blessing. Meaning you kill the things you hit, not drip-feed meagre damage onto a couple more dudes

[severe folio]

you arent going to kill that fast if you dont hit a lot of them anyway

[fluid knot]

You don't have to listen, but thats how it is

[potent echo]

Rampage seems to be really good because it's bugged right now

[fluid knot]

You'll get overall more use out of Shred/Ramage on both ChSword and Catachan than you will with just Rampage and a cleave blessing

[severe folio]

idk man

you seem to have a lot of strange takes

[potent echo]

In practice your chainsword can't rely on shred alone for horde Management

[fluid knot]

Rampage will still be BiS even after its fixed

You really can

[potent echo]

You can

[severe folio]

well if you can rely on shred alone

or rampage

[potent echo]

But cleave blessing will help alot

[severe folio]

why would you overdo it with another damage blessing lol

instead of a cleave blessing to hit more enemies

[fluid knot]

Hordes of just poxies, sure you can run a cleave blessing an do fine, but in higher settings, hordes also tend to consist of Bruisers, in which case, your cleave blessing is really not doing a whole lot

[severe folio]

Thats an odd take

[potent echo]

Bruisers have more mass

[severe folio]

so if its mix bruiser inside you need rampage + shred ?

[potent echo]

So how is taking more cleave bad

[severe folio]

your sword are going to stuck on them to begin with lol

[potent echo]

If there is a lot of bruisers your weapon gets stuck

[severe folio]

not to mention flaks

[fluid knot]

Because each enemy hit causes loss of damage, even with a cleave blessing, its cleave, not ignore hitmass, the two are different

[potent echo]

You get stagger at least if you cleave through them

[fluid knot]

Which is why BM is so good

[potent echo]

Getting stuck is horrible

Also evis needs cleave

If not the H1 gets stuck too

[fluid knot]

Evisc' has basically nothing else you could put on it which is better

[severe folio]

BM have cleave though

[fluid knot]

No, BM ignores hitmass on oneshot weakpoints

[potent echo]

That's not true

[fluid knot]

They are different

[severe folio]

And what does ignore hitmass does

It helps the axe cleave

thats the same objective

[fluid knot]

It means your swing continues as though there was no enemy hit, so you do max damage to the next target, and its not cut down like it would be with cleave

[summer prairie]

that's not true

[fluid knot]

It literally is true, thats the change it underwent

[summer prairie]

ok, it wasn't true then

[severe folio]

so its better to

[potent echo]

Didn't BM get changed to not be stupid cracked anymore because of that

[severe folio]

have your blade stuck in bruisers

[fluid knot]

the same end result, only BM doesnt cause a damage loss on the next target

[severe folio]

to kill a horde faster ?

[potent echo]

No more first target to everything

[fluid knot]

No, its still stupid cracked

[spice veldt]

it had infinite cleave but normal damage falloff

[fluid knot]

If anything, its actually better, but its not as safe

It wont stagger a wall of stuff infront of you any more, but it will kill more things faster

[summer prairie]

if it does first target damage to everything since the change, it's much better than before

[severe folio]

Arco is cleave a bad thing on dclaw and chainsword now

[fluid knot]

It is however capped to 4 targets

[plucky flax]

New bm is better. Faster horde clear.

[fluid knot]

So after you hit 4, you dont profit any more

[potent echo]

New BM on heavy sword lets you one shot multiple shotgunners on crit, so perhaps

Seems like there's no falloff

[fluid knot]

Thats because there isnt

[severe folio]

i guess should swap from SS to BM on hsword then

[plucky flax]

I don't think bm is good on heavy sword but zealot chat like it.

[severe folio]

but Dclaw dont have BM

[potent echo]

Hsword should always run BM

[severe folio]

or chainsword

[lunar hollow]

in terms of damage output it was improved but it doesn't give u super safe infinite cleave stagger vs hordes

[plucky flax]

I still prefer rampage headtaker on heavy sword.

[lunar hollow]

it was basically an axe blessing only, other weapons didn't make use of it

which was p bad

[fluid knot]

No, they have Shred, believe it or not, its more useful to kill tougher targets faster than it is to kill poxwalkers faster

[potent echo]

Understandable

[severe folio]

okay

shred crit i guess

[potent echo]

Idk I build weapons differently

[plucky flax]

But antax with bm is stronger than heavy sword for me on zealot.

[potent echo]

My chainsword is infested/unarmored pure horde killer

Everything else I solve with gun

[fluid knot]

I find Rashad to be a similar story tbh

I've not got a suitable Antax on Zealot to make an effective comparison between the two tho, sadly

[summer prairie]

I'm definitely not doing first target damage on weakspot hits to even 4 targets with BM

[plucky flax]

Aye rashad vs antax is preference. Push attack and special vs faster heavies and slightly more headshot damage.

[summer prairie]

oh it's kills only

that's meh

[fluid knot]

One shot kils yeah, which arent hard to achieve on axes

[spice veldt]

it's very good if your weapon can hit the one-shot on bruisers

[blazing echo]

I dunno, that Finesse stat on the Rashad puts it head n shoulders above the Antax

[plucky flax]

Is not meh. On zealot you kill all smol dudes in 1 hit.

[fluid knot]

At least not vs trash or even shotgunners tbh

[summer prairie]

not all of your swings are horizontal though

[potent echo]

Zealot has melee buffs that help it alot

[severe folio]

so then

[potent echo]

Budget headtaker talent

[severe folio]

What is it gonna be

[spice veldt]

and if you have trash between you and an elite; if hit weakspots on the trash, you'll deal first-target damage

[severe folio]

Shred Rampage or Shred/Rampage Cleave

[fluid knot]

No, but thats not a massive issue, you're skill one shotting a bunch of shit with it with ease

[plucky flax]

No you do like 20 more damage on a crusher headshot. And for smol dudes it's already 1 shot hs.

[severe folio]

on dlcaw and chainswords

[spice veldt]

and the other benefit is that you keep the first-target weakspot and crit multipliers as well

[summer prairie]

okay yeah it's good

[fluid knot]

Well thats a brick

[lunar hollow]

they uh

do not like that

[potent echo]

Poor no plasteel

[lunar hollow]

they like the ones that have surgical/hand cannon + maniac/flak

[potent echo]

They queue like that*

[lunar hollow]

o

i misread

people have like

no conception of the meta in most cases

or even whats dogshit vs usable

[severe folio]

🤔

[fluid knot]

Sadly kinda true

[lunar hollow]

had dudes with dumpstats in 2 damage stats

[potent echo]

Terrifying barrage must be good? Suppression? Owo?

[plucky flax]

Me with my many full gameplay of antax zealot just doing antax zealot thing

[fluid knot]

Tho i dont know that Kallo has tried Revvy before, hence why he's confused about it

[lunar hollow]

which is just a lil astonishing honestly, you would think they'd surely have something better

[fluid knot]

🤷‍♂️ Take a look at your average pug group's weapons, it'll give you a headache, but it hammers the point home pretty hard

[lunar hollow]

it does make me wonder how some people are even interacting with crafting in the first place

[plucky flax]

Stealth loner martyrdom clutchiest zealot build

[lunar hollow]

because the only thing i can think of is that they look at the rating of the weapon overall, take the highest one, push it to gold, and leave it as-is or slap random shit on it

[fluid knot]

Loner/Relic/Momentum imo

[plucky flax]

Can't solo scan while chanting

[lunar hollow]

i dont think anything pains me more than seeing people who have shit like +weakspot damage on their weapons

or

god forbid

crit damage on a purg staff

[fluid knot]

No, but on demand toughness regen/overshield an ranged EWEW tho

Plus funny dodges

[plucky flax]

I do have a stealth loner momentum build but martyrdom does more damage and is still more tanky. Not as fast tho

[severe folio]

I think the cleaves make it much more managable against a horde

so Cleaves on dclaw isnt a trap its still very much useful

[fluid knot]

You do you, but it falls apart as soon as you're not fighting just poxwalkers 🤷‍♂️

[severe folio]

i

was just testing it on bruiser horde

[summer prairie]

what's the best second blessing with antax bm

[fluid knot]

Headtaker or Deci'

Deci' has a higher cap, but drops if you miss a swing

[plucky flax]

Bring back old combat axe decimator

[fluid knot]

Headtaker is less total cap, but more consistent as it keeps stacks even if you miss a swing

[potent echo]

Limbsplitter

[fluid knot]

At least that doesnt give you negative damage anymore, holy fuck

[glossy ember]

tbf you cant blame pugs for that one, it's dirty of fatshark to make it so that it's bonus damage on the bonus damage lol...

[potent echo]

Also I was playing shovel vet recently, it's pretty good actually

Uncanny decimator shovel is very safe too

[fluid knot]

The amount of hoops you used to have to jump through to even use Limbshitter before was a nightmare

[plucky flax]

Vet tree rework p2 maybe will make me play vet again

[fluid knot]

Why not play it now?

Its still a very strong class

[plucky flax]

Don't like how the talents spread are right now. I actually prefer patch 13 tree.

[lunar hollow]

my enjoyment of vet has only really gone up with the patches, fuckin love weapon specialist

[glossy ember]

marking vets are my best friends

i love em

[plucky flax]

Much easier to get to my grenade nodes.

[fluid knot]

They are dreg bruisers... Spawn flak ones lol

[severe folio]

youre saying the shred will help with the flak bruisers more ?

[fluid knot]

Yes, because crits dont take into account the full armour of the target they proc on

[plucky flax]

That's really sad damage ☹️

[fluid knot]

Effects all armour types, except Unarmoured and Infested

[spice veldt]

if your adm is below a certain amount, a crit will raise it up

but if it's higher than that amount, crits don't do anything with the adms

[fluid knot]

Yeah, its like psuedo-rending effect

[spice veldt]

that minimum adm is usually pretty low

[severe folio]

ill try it against flak armors then

[fluid knot]

It also effects crit strikes on parries on Ragers an the like

Bosses, Crushers, etc etc

[severe folio]

yeah the parry can crit

[fluid knot]

Yeah

Iirc Catachan's also have the same base crit as the Combat Knife, so with Shred, thats a LOT of profit

[fluid knot]

Thats fair, tbh all they really need to do to Vets tree is consolidate a few minor nodes to reduce cost to the capstones, an its A-ok

Which by the sounds of it, is exactly whats gonna be happening, so thats positive

[crude trout]

wait it has the same crit chance with the knife?

[fluid knot]

Afaik yeah, at least it used to, i doubt that was changed with the balancing changes

You never notice how much more it crits than other weapons?

[severe folio]

okay i tested againstflak bruisers

[plucky flax]

Since they nerfed a lot of talents I think they can combine some of them too.

[fluid knot]

Ehhh, a lot of the power went elsewhere in the tree, it was a fair trade imo

[plucky flax]

Well I used to get 15% attack speed. Then they nerfed it to 10% and put it in the keystone I Don't even want to pick.

[severe folio]

its faster than shred + SS

but its slower than SS + Rampage lol

the crit helps against flak but youre aiming head level for most of the first target

[fluid knot]

Thing gives you guaranteed crits, you cant sniff at that pal

[fluid knot]

It also helps against Ragers, Maulers, Crushers, various specialists, bosses....

[severe folio]

uh

if you have to face, the various specialist

[fluid knot]

As opposed to being a one trick pony only "decent" vs horde

[severe folio]

then you start

parrying

[fluid knot]

Yes.. Yes you do, an if you have Shred stacked up, you kill them much faster with parries

[severe folio]

or use a different weapon

because why would you use dclaw on those guys

rager understandable

crushers ?

[fluid knot]

Because you can parry literally everything?

[severe folio]

boss understandable

[fluid knot]

You can parry crusher overheads lmao

[severe folio]

its very risky parrying crushers

and its not killing crusher faster

[fluid knot]

Well it is, you're not killing a Crusher in a timely manner without it critting a lot, an if you're in a situation where you need to parry them, well it matters

Else you pull out your staff and get flattened

Or god forbid, you become one of those morons who spamms assail at a crusher or mauler as its about to swing

[severe folio]

you know if you are bringing a dclaw

chance are your gun are the single target kind right

like revolver

laspistol

voidstrike

surge

[fluid knot]

If you have a gun, sure, but its not always practical to use them at point blank range, for instance if you've been cornered

[severe folio]

wouldnt those deal with crusher much quicker than dclaw parrying

[fluid knot]

See; Above

[plucky flax]

Nearly 550 knife

[severe folio]

hmm

idk man

[fluid knot]

That one singular point is excruciatingly annoying

[severe folio]

the rampage shred combination dont seem to emphasize on dclaw strength

[summer prairie]

all dmg stats low, unusable

[severe folio]

you building the claw to do something its not good at

[plucky flax]

[severe folio]

salvage it

[fluid knot]

Im building the thing to be versatile, not a one trick pony

Versatility is what keeps you alive in Maelstroms

[plucky flax]

I'm playing stealth loner knife zealot.

I heard reddit loves this build.

[fluid knot]

You cursed individual

[severe folio]

Well if you arent able to do anything properly because you can do everything

i dont think maelstrom gonna be lenient either

[fluid knot]

You can with enough talent lol

[severe folio]

right

well, i have already have a look on how rampage shred feels so

[fluid knot]

I would take versatile options over specialised ones in this game any day of the week, no contest, because there are going to be times when you're forced into a solo clutch, an if you dont have options, you're not doing it

[severe folio]

i think im gonna stay with the codex

I mean its great being versatile

but thats why we have blitz, abilities, primary and secondary

[potent echo]

Yea I agree

[severe folio]

so we dont even out a single weapon too much

your dclaw may have an edge better in crusher but its horrible in everything else for just a lil bit better at crusher

for, significantly worse everything else

ironically this somehow made it the most carapace specialized dclaw lol

[fluid knot]

Its better against anything that isnt unarmoured or infested

Which is quite a lot of the enemy roster

Unless you play Uprising or something

Idk even know what the spawns are like in that

[severe folio]

You know I dont think you actually do play auric

[fluid knot]

Fucking LMAO

[umbral helm]

a lot of this stuff is why I don't really ever shoot for breakpoints or anything. instead of pulling my hair out over specifics I just use stuff and stick with whatever feels good

[severe folio]

because Auric people dont usually say other play lower than them that much

Are you actually auric player

or are you just saying this so we dont doubt you dont

[fluid knot]

I didnt say you played Uprising, i said "If you play Uprising"

[night crater]

Lmao the attitude

[severe folio]

what is the point youre trying to make

[fluid knot]

But here ya go, here's a scoreboard for ya

"I dont think you play Auric"

Holy fuckin shit man

[night crater]

"not BIS, literally unusable. Better uninstall"

[compact cargo]

That's Malice malestrom

[fluid knot]

Oh yeah totally

[compact cargo]

[severe folio]

Isthat with your rampage shred dclaw

[fluid knot]

That was with Crusher/Revolver/Relic actually

[compact cargo]

crusher numbers

[severe folio]

I see

[compact cargo]

[fluid knot]

Probably one of the stronger all round builds in the game

[severe folio]

but you have tried your rampag shred dclaw right ?

on psyker ?

[fluid knot]

Yes... Funnily enough, i have

[urban sandal]

what's wrong with dclaw on psyker

[fluid knot]

I wouldnt advocate for something i dont play

[severe folio]

he's saying SS is a bait

that cleave is bad for dclaw

[compact cargo]

we have Illsi

[fluid knot]

Actually what i said was cleave blessings all round are pretty fuckin meh

Wit the exception being BM

[compact cargo]

[severe folio]

okay

[urban sandal]

illisi can't parry = shit weapon

[severe folio]

He's saying cleave blessing arent worth it on dclaw

[wise ruin]

What's that

[compact cargo]

[severe folio]

it's rampage and shred blessing on a dclaw

[fluid knot]

I didnt say that either, stop putting words in my mouth, i merely said that the alternative is more versatile, and generally more useful

[severe folio]

You just said that cleave blessing are pretty fukin meh

[wise ruin]

Is there like a specific build for that or what lol

[severe folio]

Wht words am I putting in your mouth beside what exactly you just said Mud

Or do you not know what you are saying anymore

[fluid knot]

Look man, you can get upset that other people dont agree with you all you like, you do you, if it suits you, we dont have to agree

[severe folio]

well he said taking both shred and rampage is better, because the cleave aint worth it

[fluid knot]

This is getting tiresome at this point

[compact cargo]

[urban sandal]

having to do uprising rn for scriptures weekly

[severe folio]

Look man if you are gonna say something like that I have to make sure that it's doing right

And I give it a check and I don't think it's alright

[fluid knot]

Is it horrendous?

[urban sandal]

I feel like I'm just walking through the levels primary attacking

[fluid knot]

Lmao

[severe folio]

wouldnt your sword get stuck through almost every bruisers

[fluid knot]

I bet enemy density is at an all time low

[bright mica]

oh hey the two most irritating nerds found their way on the same channel

[urban sandal]

what enemy density

[fluid knot]

[fluid knot]

Thanks, I'll wear that as a badge of honour

[severe folio]

wait

ult into horde light spam ?

you mean scrier into a horde ?

[fluid knot]

Yeah for sure, though i still prefer heavies for the most part

[paper lily]

scrier into horde goes hard

[fluid knot]

It actually does

[severe folio]

i guess ill check on this then

[paper lily]

ur not spending peril on shit anyway

don't have to spend dodges if ur gonna get hit either since parry has higher hitmass anyway

[fluid knot]

Aye, light spamming into a horde is not an effective way to leverage it ,at all

[fluid knot]

The parry is just so damn good all round

Super flexible

[paper lily]

idk how anyone could talk down parry

[fluid knot]

Wish more weapons had some kinda riposte element ngl

[paper lily]

rapier is close

[fluid knot]

Yeah true, its so fast you can easily slip it into enemy combos

Very good move

[paper lily]

dodge special swap feels nice

[plucky flax]

No I am sedition gamer.

[severe folio]

220 health so

yeah shred ramp is a bit faster

[paper lily]

ignoring pack clear it straight up has better usage elsewhere too so

[severe folio]

where

[paper lily]

yea like wdym where

let me cleave these 3 plague ogryns rq

[severe folio]

i mean

if you dont have a primary to deal with plague orgyn

parry

[spice veldt]

parries relying on teammates to not have stagger weapons is also one reason why I don't run it

[severe folio]

but mostly im not looking for a weapon better than dclaw

im just

taking dclaw to do what it suppose to do

[paper lily]

who defined what its supposed to do

im confused

[severe folio]

the

attributes on the weapon ?

[paper lily]

yeah it deals damage to enemies

pretty good attribute imo

has a parry makes you immune to random huge hits, also big plus i think

[severe folio]

im talking about these parts

[fluid knot]

I'm embaressed to say I use Catachan's because im prone to blowing myself up with Forceswords due to push attacking being so ingrained in my muscle memory

[severe folio]

and these parts

[paper lily]

those are just straight up bs anyway

half of the single target stuff sweeps

figure stuff out by experience not what is written to you

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. dont trust the tooltips

They're often hilariously inaccurate

A good portion of Vet mains still think they have to be stood still all the time to profit from the Marksman's Focus Keystone

And thats because the tooltip is worded very poorly

[severe folio]

so you use dclaw

for what

everything ?

[spice veldt]

people not hitting heads 🥲

[paper lily]

kill the enemy ofc

[severe folio]

thats a bit vague

since every weapon does that

[fluid knot]

Depends on the situation, sometimes hardly at all, other times I have to kill stuff with it, the game asks for a lot of different approaches

Its not black and white

[glossy ember]

whatd u get as the final blessing

[fluid knot]

Which tbh, is one of the reasons it remains interesting

[spice veldt]

dclaw has fairly distinguished single-target and sweeping heavies

e.g., the strikedown lights have 1.8 cleave and the sweeping lights have 5.4

[severe folio]

exorcist

[glossy ember]

damn...

[spice veldt]

sweeping heavies have 9.5 cleave and the strikedown heavy has 1.8 cleave

[glossy ember]

well

if you wanna do a SG illisi build

could work

[severe folio]

nah i sold the sword

well, i took the slaughter

[glossy ember]

rip

[severe folio]

so that means its mainly use to clear horde ?

[glossy ember]

i'd have switched the melee weak spot dmg and kept sprint efficiency

[severe folio]

i want a proper illisi so, i rather not

[glossy ember]

[spice veldt]

it's certainly leaning more towards that direction than other weapons yeah

[harsh urchin]

it also has pretty poor adm values against armor

[severe folio]

I cant tell if cleave is good for it now or not then

cleave and ramp/shred or ramp and shred

[harsh urchin]

any combo of those 3 should be good

[severe folio]

i guess ill try shred and rampage together for a while then

the combat knife

why the combat knife

[proud frost]

any advice on getting Malleus Monstronum penance?

[severe folio]

wouldnt you miss out since you cant go behind enemy lines like vet and zealot

im just trying out other melee options since i played dueling sword and force sword so much

[plucky flax]

I bought the spooky mask for the demonic voice. RIP people who got the old mask

[severe folio]

i played with deimos and dueling sword pretty often already

[unique sand]

new shirt look sokay with the toilet seat and krieg mask but not as good as penance gear

[severe folio]

knife psyker huh

[unique sand]

glowing eyes are nice but helmet looks weird

[fluid knot]

Man, i really wish it didnt have the damn wings on it

[plucky flax]

Moth man.

[untold niche]

You l9ok like weird astronaut heh heh

[fluid knot]

Lmao, legit

[unique sand]

spookier thing is being bald

damn mask makes me bald

[fluid knot]

Its alright bud, Male pattern baldness effects many of us

[proven stirrup]

Wig, snatched

[fluid knot]

I've only got a few more years of hair myself moren likely

[unique sand]

i know. and i love it

[untold niche]

New mask change voice?

[proven stirrup]

Yeah, gives you the muffled mask voice

I'm feelin' my psyker fit atm

[untold niche]

Only new mask give you that? Maybe I buy it just for voice but it l9ok really ugly

[plucky flax]

There are a few masks with a demonic voice filter rather than the regular mask filter.

[untold niche]

Which masks?

[potent breach]

Voice? The new mask comes with a new voice?

[plucky flax]

The ogryn bane mask, the zealot mask with halo, and this new psyker mask in the new bundle.

[proven stirrup]

Yeah I've heard one of those on an Ogryn a couple times

I'd really like to know what the other classes' are

[unique sand]

top quality rebreather totally would use in a toxic gas cloud

[untold niche]

Zealot mask with halo... you have picture?

[glossy ember]

looks like a dog cone

[untold niche]

Thank you many many Mr selifsh

[potent breach]

Which ones?

[unique sand]

its the 3rd option in shop for zealot right now

[frank hazel]

A demon voice sounds fun but I think the helmet looks goofy 😦

[unique sand]

the one with the nice armor

[fluid knot]

The halo helmet is pretty cool on Zealot ngl

Use that one alot

an the Robo-cop one

[bleak tulip]

its the same effect as the zealot one right?

[untold niche]

Thank you good sir

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[bleak tulip]

righto

[unique sand]

i just wish the hair options werent so wonky

[plucky flax]

I am not in game so can't take pic.

But you'd know which one.

The ogryn one is part of the chem slave dog thingy set.

[proven stirrup]

Current pcyker get up. Wish I could match the pants and tunic better but I love this cape so much.

[fluid knot]

Makes no odds, my dude is balder than a molerat

[plucky flax]

With the big leather coat and grey scarf.

[fluid knot]

[unique sand]

fair

[plucky flax]

I wish my zealot gimp masks would have the demonic voice.

[frank hazel]

[unique sand]

why wont they release the golden toilet seat. so i can make golden throne jokes

[fluid knot]

Yeah thats him! About 20 years ago mind you

[unique sand]

imagine if this was the free cosmetic we got

hell id even pay for it

[plucky flax]

Why everything make us bald tho

Fucking show some hair.

[unique sand]

effort to design too much

[proven stirrup]

You guys are the one's squinting at the stitches in the fabric

[unique sand]

cause id rather not pay for sub optimal product

[severe folio]

wheredo you get that

[unique sand]

game files

[severe folio]

oh

[proven stirrup]

Iunno, seems petty to care so much about how they model cosmetics up that close

[potent breach]

Imagine fatshark gives us good cosmetics you can buy with normal credits

[proven stirrup]

Have they ever even expanded that set of options?

[bleak tulip]

yo ucan tell how that shit is just kitbashed haphazardly with the goggles still peeking through

[proven stirrup]

Honestly, their development pace is too choked by tech debt. It's gonna take a while before they can even attempt to make better cash shop shit

[unique sand]

some of it is very avoidable and its clearly skipping corners

[proven stirrup]

let alone freebies

Yeah, it is.

I'm not denying that.

I just can't bring myself to care.

It's too negligible a detail

[unique sand]

if they were actually releasing new items instead of the constant reskins maybe it wouldnt be so bad

but they are just letting us stew here

[proven stirrup]

Can't argue with that

[bleak tulip]

the main thing it makes me sad about is that if theyre having so much trouble with existing hairstyles already I dont see them adding any more :c

[unique sand]

and its not like they dont have new items in the files

[proven stirrup]

Yeah that's not something we're like...ever gonna get

until they put out some paid content

If even then

[bleak tulip]

also the reason its so fiddly is having to turn off hair showing up piece by piece to avoid clipping

thats why its usually either bald or near bald

its less annoying with some hairstyles and more with others

[proven stirrup]

Yeah that's an underlying structure thing. A lot of games do it that way

[plucky flax]

Enjoy your bald 3 and bald 4 cut.

[bleak tulip]

😔

[proven stirrup]

But it is pretty inconsistent here

[bleak tulip]

I just want more than one hair style with bangs

unless you count the half bald sororitas

[proven stirrup]

The only bangs you're gonna get with hair like that is the bangs of enemy fire in your blindspots, soldier.

[unique sand]

wonder what weird ass penance we gonna have to do for these

[fluid knot]

But i want bald 5 goddamnit

[potent echo]

Hey it's the free cosmetic with the free cosmetic kitbashed

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

Why isn't that baldW

[unique sand]

cant wait to have to do 90% damage to a boss with smite for it

or pay through the nose for a shitty camo version

which has no matching clothing

[potent breach]

They really have to rework the weapon skins

The free ones

They are really really really boring

[bleak tulip]

you mean add more?

why rework em

[potent echo]

You don't like Deimos with duelling sword handle?

[potent breach]

"But you won't buy anything from the shop if the free skins are good"

I don't mean premium cosmetics

[bleak tulip]

there just has to be more than 2 skins

[unique sand]

at least give is the home depot mask in the shop.

[potent breach]

There is red and blue. That's it

[potent echo]

I would really rather the skins came in a pack like in DRG

[potent breach]

100%

I would like to have a system in place similar to DRG

[unique sand]

literally have this mask in a drawer in me factory

[potent breach]

Cosmetic packs for 8 bucks

[potent echo]

They are both swedish aren't they

[potent breach]

Hmmm...

[potent echo]

It might be also they were ex fatshark staff considering the games are really similar in genre

[potent breach]

The difference is that small not so small Chinese company that basically owns Fatshark

[potent echo]

That's untrue

Majority stake is not owning

[bleak tulip]

it can have an impact on monetization however

which is the important part

[potent breach]

But you can see how much Tencent influenced the development

[bleak tulip]

eh

[potent breach]

Basic progression and gameplay systems working?

[potent echo]

Septicemia has commented that its mostly from James

[potent breach]

Nah

[unique sand]

i swear we have baldness issues cause FS layered the cosmetics to the same layer as the bald head so it clips with the hair. so they just delete the hair in chunks wherever it would clip

[potent breach]

Cash shop?

Absolutely

[potent echo]

False

[bleak tulip]

from what I hear from industry folks tencent is surprisingly hands off in that sense

[potent breach]

Would be neat

[bleak tulip]

they likely have their fingers in too many pies to micromanage everything

[modest edge]

should i cop it?

[potent breach]

But to be fair, Fatshark is deciding almost everything

Which is sad...

[unique sand]

yea

blessings are bis i believe

[primal dagger]

Any of you super psykers know if malefic momentum buffs soul blaze from perilous combustion or wildfire?

[unique sand]

so you have free control of perks

[modest edge]

fair enough

[bleak tulip]

missed the burn threshold by 1 feelsbad

but you might as well get it fo the blessings

[potent echo]

Warp damage includes soulblaze yes

[primal dagger]

awesome thx

[modest edge]

@severe folio i see you.

[severe folio]

kill a nurgling with suicide explosion

[modest edge]

👀

[bleak tulip]

maybe in like a year when they add more daemons

[dark swift]

This a decent Forcesword? Haven't used one but got this one from a mission and tweaked it

[bleak tulip]

mid first target and I dont know why you locked in those blessings but hey

[unique sand]

its honestly a shame that most of the psyker outfits i can see in the forseeable future are all reskins or the same base shirt with a few new wires

only one that is actually new is savlar chem dog one

[severe folio]

both blessing are pretty bad

[bleak tulip]

or theyre already in the game because theyre kitbashes an the ones we'll get too arent done yet

which is the more likely answer

[unique sand]

so far i have yet to be proven wrong with the skin releases we've been getting

[bleak tulip]

turns out making cosmetics still takes time and they arent just "holding back" for fomo

[unique sand]

i really wish i would be proven wrong

[bleak tulip]

there is plenty of cosmetics that arent just kitbashes tho?

[unique sand]

not for psyker

[bleak tulip]

yes for psyker

[potent echo]

There's the golden red outfit that's pretty cool

[unique sand]

there are a few nice non kit bashes of currently released skins

i suppose

the current one in shop is one of them

it has 2 other recolors coming from what i can see though

[potent breach]

The leather ones

Look neat

[unique sand]

this is one that isnt a kitbash

[bleak tulip]

first search on reddit

[unique sand]

this?

[bleak tulip]

not to mention shit thats been in rotation in the past

[unique sand]

thats one im waiting for a rerun on

the scholistica psykana one

[potent echo]

Oh it's the metal face mask

[bleak tulip]

I should probably go report the bug with the chest clipping since seemingly pretty few people have this one

[unique sand]

yea the clipping is weird but i got a feeling they dont care

[bleak tulip]

they literally fixed some shit last patch lmao

there is enough stuff to complain about that you dont have to make up shit you know

[unique sand]

this one might be a little hard to fix

so many psyker outfits have collars

[bleak tulip]

also I mean its clipping when you do some animations in first person

which is a bigger issue

[unique sand]

ah

thought you meant the clipping with the collar

[bleak tulip]

which was my guess as to why that cosmetic hasnt cycled back through but it hasnt been fixed so maybe not?

[unique sand]

i mean a lot of the outfits arent designed to be mixed and matched

[severe folio]

all psyker outfit have collar right ?

[potent echo]

Some are collarless

[unique sand]

some have collars that come with the mask

[potent echo]

Some have the collar on the body and not the headpiece

[severe folio]

which one ?

[unique sand]

all the chest pieces have a collar socket

[severe folio]

oh

[unique sand]

the collar is on the mask

[severe folio]

so no chestpiece without collar sockets ?

[unique sand]

nope

[severe folio]

sad

[potent echo]

I have one that's really weird

[potent breach]

For example

But there is another one

With some pipes

[bleak tulip]

cant think of any chests without the collar but im sure there might be one?

[ornate shale]

i hearing all over discord that Smite nodes improving Surge staff by increasing chain count. But so far i didnt noticed any effect. Is it still working?

[unique sand]

technically there was one

[bleak tulip]

no

[unique sand]

being shirtless

[severe folio]

ah

[ornate shale]

oh good. What patch fixed it?

[bleak tulip]

well that was never an actual option

[bleak tulip]

uhh 15?

or one of the hotfixes

dont remember

[ornate shale]

alrighty, thank you

[unique sand]

if it wasnt intended as an option they wouldnt have given us chest tats

someone told FS no

so FS said it was a "bug"

[slow raven]

starting to question the value of perilous combustion, i have a lot of games that look like this when PC is the only source of warpfire damage i have. it feels like it does more damage though, does anyone know if the scoreboard counts damage only when you get the kill, so maybe since soulblaze isnt getting many final blows it's being undercounted?

[potent echo]

James doesn't like shirtless

[unique sand]

not to mention the back/neck tat

seeing as all psyker shirts come with a collar slot only way we would see this is if we didnt wear one

[potent echo]

The value isn't in pure numbers, but you can alphastrike elite patrols

If you want pure numbers you can run blaze trauma and farm numbers that way

[bleak tulip]

thats flawed logic

also there is plenty of sets that show more or less of the arms and chest

which is what the tats are for

[unique sand]

idk who is pulling the leash on the devs but they are hurting the game the devs want to make

[bleak tulip]

if it was intended they wouldnt have removed it

[potent echo]

James workshop

[bleak tulip]

also its not super lore sensical to have warband members run around bare chested on a planet where it honestly doesnt make a ton of sense

[unique sand]

not a single one where you can see teh chest tat that low or the neck/back tat

arm tat yes

[bleak tulip]

yes there are instances of stuff like catachans doing a whole 'nam routine, but thats usually on planets where it makes sense

and those are IG

[bleak tulip]

you dont get the part where it may be a thing in the future

this is a live service game

[unique sand]

"may"

[ornate shale]

can an adult explein to me why Smite + True aim + Surge staff builds are good? Yes we getting crit after every smite but its not that drastic improvement in damage. Unless im missing some minmaxed sinergies

[potent echo]

No one said it's good

[vestal fulcrum]

Surge staff, or Voidstrike with Surge blessing?

[potent echo]

But crit is important now because it lets you one shot some elites

[bleak tulip]

not to mention during development shit changes constantly, and some things are simply in the game for players to look at and dont have some grand design behind em, its not exactly rocket science

[potent echo]

But in practice its too jank and takes too much time

[ornate shale]

ah fuck. dude written "surgestrike" and im assumed its surge

[vestal fulcrum]

Because the former is fine, but not amazing, and latter is performing greatly if you have space

[bleak tulip]

basically dont count on shirtless ever to be a real vanilla option, for like a dozen different reasons

[potent echo]

Surge blessing you might get more value out of because double crit voidballs is really good

[ornate shale]

guess it was voidstrike typo

[potent echo]

Ah

In that case its probably more like your first void after stunning a bunch of elites is a guaranteed crit, you can kill quite alot with 2 crit balls

It's not really a combo you should consciously go for though

[untold niche]

@unique sand you are right, with the clipping it looks pretty damn ugly

[potent echo]

Just be aware and profit

[bleak tulip]

probably not a typo, surge is the current "best" void blessing so it might just be a conflation of the words to state what build they meant

[unique sand]

eh hopefully now with vermintide 2 complete the FS team will have more resources to pour into Darktide. And we wont have to get dripfed corpstarch

[untold niche]

the stupid wings also look ugly

[bleak tulip]

VT2 development isnt stopped

afaik

[ionic frost]

I'm just waiting for Surge blessing to affect Trauma staff... =)

[unique sand]

wasnt the necromancer dlc their last one?

[bleak tulip]

the last one they planned

[ionic frost]

Secondary that is.

[bleak tulip]

which happens a lot with live service games

pretty sure they also said chaos wastes was teh last at some point

people just didnt let go of "siennas 4th class"

[potent echo]

Vt2 isnt a live service lmao

[unique sand]

huh that'll be intresting i guess

[ionic frost]

Probably depends on how much more revenue they're making off VT2...

Right now if I wanted to buy the collection on steam it's $110...

[bleak tulip]

I mean its no hard and fast definition but yeah it kinda is

[ionic frost]

For only $200 you can get 5 Fatshark games, lol

[bleak tulip]

as long as there is ongoing development, new cosmetics and such

[unique sand]

gotta wait on them sales

[potent echo]

No it's not

[unique sand]

gaben provide

[bleak tulip]

and its likely that there is more dlc planned

[ionic frost]

Yep, I was gonna buy it just for the tattoos, but it wasn't on sale.

[potent echo]

Fatshark said dt is specifically a live service

Which also means no local servers

Only dedicated

[bleak tulip]

that's not really a defining factor of a live service game, but okay

[potent echo]

The company defines it, not us

[bleak tulip]

they might not think so but VT has been a live service game for a while, even if it wasnt planned to be one

I mean its more that the industry randomly defines it but okay

[potent echo]

Nowhere did FS say vt2 is a live service

No fatshark literally called dt a live service stop being obtuse

[unique sand]

DT has so much potential i just hope FS wont mess it up

[bleak tulip]

and that doesnt really matter either way

[potent echo]

It's a statement of commitment that they are GOING to keep it alive

And also an excuse for all the shitty practices like online only

[bleak tulip]

the game will still be here in like 3 years so its not really relevant either way

itll be ongoing development much like VT

until they make a new game, and then maybe theyll shut down VT first, or DT depending on player base at the time

[potent echo]

The thing about live services is also, if it folds, it dies completely, because no offline mode

[unique sand]

also as fun as VT2 is, i think its age is showing. im guessing a VT3 might be on their list of things before anymore major updates come

[potent echo]

Vt2 you can still play with your friends forever

[potent breach]

Unless they add P2P at some point

[potent echo]

DT will end the day fatshark stops supporting

[steel egret]

Statement of commitment?

[unique sand]

DT will end when they do a DT2

[potent echo]

No one said anything about them sticking to it though

[bleak tulip]

I mean you can still run local shit in DT already its just not intended

[potent echo]

You can't matchmake locally

[bleak tulip]

and VT also has online components that just dont work

yeah no shit

[steel egret]

Live service just means it ends one day

[bleak tulip]

but you can mod that back in either way

[steel egret]

[potent echo]

There's a mod for P2P darktide?

[bleak tulip]

not yet because there is no desire to make one

[fluid knot]

Drip

[bleak tulip]

presumably

[potent echo]

It's probably illegal

[bleak tulip]

lol

[potent echo]

But I ain't reading the ToS

[ionic frost]

They'd claim it "enables piracy."

[potent echo]

That thing doesn't exist there for funsies

[bleak tulip]

yeah good luck with trying to deny that in a court of law

[steel egret]

Can be, can also not be.

[potent echo]

You agreed to the ToS the moment you pressed play sooo

[quasi junco]

just grouped up with a shredder veteran, thats a first

[bleak tulip]

ToS does not trump law is the thing

[potent echo]

Yea but they can shut down your private servers

[bleak tulip]

this is pretty common knowledge I thought

okay and you can just put a new one up

[potent echo]

True I guess

[bleak tulip]

how do you think there is still custom wow servers

[potent echo]

Just don't get too big

Don't attract the sharks and they will live and let live

[ionic frost]

Though at some point modded lobbies would be cool. 4 human players, but everyone gets to bring one of their alts as a bot that babysits them. Of course you'd need a sufficient difficulty bump for that squad of 8. =)

[unique sand]

isnt there a mod that lets you bring your alts

[steel egret]

Or do private server update when major expansion launches

[unique sand]

as bots

[bleak tulip]

also usually that shit doesnt matter to the dev or even the publisher when the game isnt even making money anymore, see shittons of games that got their servers shut down that people still play

[ionic frost]

Yes, but not with other players too. =) It's called Tertium 5.

[steel egret]

Oh no

[potent echo]

Also private servers means they can't sell you cosmetics (the way it's setup now)

[bleak tulip]

the only times it matters is if a rights holder doesnt want their IP being used, so maybe GW would shut something down but I also kinda doubt that

[unique sand]

dont forget GW is famous for their bad decisions

[bleak tulip]

bro theyve been selling you cosmetics in VT for years now too

[unique sand]

well infamous

[potent echo]

Read caveat

[steel egret]

GW is too busy re-defining plastic price

[potent echo]

But also private server you can just unlock all the premium stuff

[unique sand]

isnt it resin now

imagine if they still had metal models

[steel egret]

I ceased to care years ago

[unique sand]

fair

[steel egret]

But you are probably right

[untold niche]

the ddemonuic vocie sucks

[unique sand]

but yea at this point im not sure of what FS wants to do. If they wanted our money they would do less re-skins with different camo patterns, and sell camo as a seperate thing entirely. hell. selling base colors like red and black would also make them big money

[ocean cipher]

can i get a purgatus build for the stupid ass warp charge penance

[steel egret]

Fatshark designed system for easy re-texturing.

They wont let that cash cow go

[unique sand]

and with how many regiments exist the skin possibilities can last for years

mordian iron guard, vostroyan firstborn, scintillian fusiliers, pyran dragoons etc

[potent echo]

Same business model

[unique sand]

each of those regiments also can have their own commisar skin

[bleak tulip]

kinda doubt theyll go that granular but yeah the possibilities are endless really

[steel egret]

Well

Its fatshark.

[unique sand]

hell if they did a lucifer black skin line people would eat that up

even solar auxilia

[bleak tulip]

I kind of doubt some things will happen because they dont make sense in lore

but a lot of guard regiments are probably absolutely fair game

[unique sand]

a krieger in the warband dosent make sense

but it made them $$

[bleak tulip]

yeah, you can probably come up with an edge case

but generally its very borderline

[unique sand]

i think cosmetics dont need to fit into the lore

its drip after all

[steel egret]

Warhammer end times

[bleak tulip]

im thinking more stuff like solar aux lol

[iron flame]

Halllowette got them from dead ppl no?

[unique sand]

the solar pattern armor still exists, and if anyone can get their grimy paws on it, its an inquisitor

[steel egret]

Fatshark has said they are not canon

In a sense that dressing as comissar doesnt mean there ever was a comissar there

[unique sand]

but holy shit would i give FS money for a vitrian dragoon skin as well

[bleak tulip]

I seem to recall a statement that some things wouldnt happen for lore reasons, and saying skins arent canon is pretty nomral

[steel egret]

Yeah

[bleak tulip]

but hey who knows

they bowed to the krieg cringe cult

[unique sand]

free money

[bleak tulip]

you dont say

[steel egret]

Well they made questionnaire and it won

Or poll

I dont remember

[bleak tulip]

youre saying that like its some revelation lmao

[steel egret]

They are the one who did it

[unique sand]

i mean if every skin stayed lore friendly to the game, only thing we'd get is kitbashes

[steel egret]

Or rags

[unique sand]

or cracked helmets and half complete armor sets

[bleak tulip]

as already mentioned, most of the shit you get is ransacked anyway

so no

[steel egret]

I think this is already done to some extent

[unique sand]

penance gear can be lore friendly

[bleak tulip]

youre still on a rogue trader vessel too, which was a clever little lore loophole to use

to sell you shit you wouldnt find

[coarse pond]

i pray for the day fatshark gives us a maccabian skin

[ionic frost]

Dreg shooter cosmetic set when? I need more friendly fire in my life.

[steel egret]

I remember pants in aquila store which implied someone had shat themself wearing them

[unique sand]

but since they already opened pandoras box with the krieg and commisar, might as well go all out

[bleak tulip]

half the new penance sets already make you look like one

just wear that shit

[steel egret]

Grimdark future

[ionic frost]

I know, I just want to complete the subterfuge. =)

[steel egret]

Someone else shits in your pants

[coarse pond]

i'm going to shit your pants

[bleak tulip]

I can imagine they'd wanna stop before it gets too comical

[steel egret]

Leopard print pants

[unique sand]

after we get the stims(space meth) so we can look like all the meth heads we kill

[bleak tulip]

like I seriously doubt theyll ever sell shit like arbites armor or something like that

[unique sand]

idk part of the joy of 40k is how over the top it is

[ionic frost]

Is it going to be an additional consumable we can use/carry? Or will it use equipment slot?

[unique sand]

i think it might function like potions in VT maybe?

you pick it up on the map

[ionic frost]

That'd be nice...

[bleak tulip]

yeah but not a fortnite level of over the top where you got people running around in horus cosplay

[unique sand]

watch people in pub lobbies hog all the stims

[ionic frost]

That speedrun preacher will now be in another galaxy waiting on you.

[unique sand]

i mean thats too far but also would be funny as hell

[bleak tulip]

the point is that, even if it doesnt look like it, they still have a story somewhat planned out theyre trying to do and keep it somewhat within lore

[unique sand]

i wanna cosplay as a titan

[ionic frost]

This just in: New Emperor cosmetic set. Price: $10000.

And it's pay 2 win.

[unique sand]

psyker would be dripped out

also if your team mates gaze upon you they go blind

[bleak tulip]

also I fully expect stims to just take the normal box slot so I dont see people hogging them quite as much as that

[ionic frost]

Naw, just makes you have permanent ranged immunity so all shooters shoot your teammates instead. =P

3 Emperors + 1 dead bullet sponge.

[unique sand]

probably, but some people might just insta use them and run along to insta use the rest

[iron flame]

But as soon as all the non Emp set players goes down. The Emperor become sad and game over

[bleak tulip]

okay but how often do you play with people that just instantly drop medkits at their feet because they have a light owchie

[unique sand]

y'know emperor technically isnt a space marine and they only said "no space marines"

[ionic frost]

Nah, they'll let you checkmark a box to give them the Emperor's Blessing for the low-low price of $100 if they die.

[unique sand]

thunder warrior when

[ionic frost]

You already spent $10000 on the cosmetic p2w.

Hmmm...if Darktide were more like DDO. =D

[potent echo]

They will probably forget they have the stim just like in vt2 or in DT now

[unique sand]

not that often, but its more they ignore the medkits when they have a big ouchie

[ionic frost]

I wonder how long the stims will last. Will they come with a new extra-cracked out director?

[bleak tulip]

go look at VT2, thats how long

[unique sand]

the stims dont just give hp tho right?

[bleak tulip]

because thats what they are

[unique sand]

they also give buffs

[bleak tulip]

one does

[potent echo]

10 seconds...?

[ionic frost]

Never played VT2, how long do they last?

[potent echo]

There are 4 stims

[bleak tulip]

New Consumables - Stimms: Loot four different Stimms from the field to aid you in the fight against the heretics; restoring health, boosting damage, increasing speed or hasten cooldown regeneration

[potent echo]

Green, yellow, purple, blue

[vestal fulcrum]

10s was the base duration in VT2, yes.

[bleak tulip]

its heaing draughts and potions from VT2

thats all this is

[vestal fulcrum]

On regular potions at least, it was very varying a length on Chaos Wastes' potions

[bleak tulip]

except they all go into the same slot this time

[ionic frost]

10 seconds of hastened cooldown regen...meh

[potent echo]

No one knows how good or bad it's gonna be until it comes out

[bleak tulip]

usually VERY fast regen, as in you get a bonus ult use or two

[ionic frost]

Now if they last like 10 minutes... =)

[unique sand]

in VT2 weirdly enough ive very rarely encountered players with less brain cells than chromosomes. but somehow in DT it is a common occurance

[bleak tulip]

what like half the mission?

[potent echo]

For psyker purple won't be very good

[vestal fulcrum]

Absolutely useless on certain abilities, but consider this on abilities such as Chorus, VoC or even Venting Shriek