psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Smite and flaming shriek is your "I don't like how my screen looks atm" button.

[plucky flax]

[cosmic sigil]

So you take the talent that inflict DMG from other sources?

[solar sand]

hear a horde, see no horde

[cosmic sigil]

To help soulblaze

[rare storm]

yeeebwoii

[solar sand]

killing an offscreen horde with a single button press is a wonderful feeling

behind a wall

that 30m is nuts

[rare storm]

doubling down into that palpatine build is the only way

[solar sand]

for a long time i thought it was like 10m or something short

[cosmic sigil]

Ok I see the tree down below

What about uptop?

What do you consider must have?

[rare storm]

malefic momentum

[lethal lagoon]

Everything

[rare storm]

pc

[solar sand]

this is my smite build, i swap between EP and WS based on how much i want to use surge

[rare storm]

Eh the top is kinda standard ish I guess

[solar sand]

it makes auric a joke

[strong gulch]

Creeping flames can take time to kill stuff. I have a bad memory, so I'll yell at a sniper or something; but it takes just enough time for me to forget. Then I get credit for sniper kill and am like "Do what now? Sniper? Oh right... sniper."

[plucky flax]

Never forgets
https://youtu.be/7fgebio7n_w

[solar sand]

half my kill feed is stuff i didnt directly touch lol

just fire spreading

[cosmic sigil]

The Crit nodes are not needed?

[lethal lagoon]

Perfect

[cosmic sigil]

Assuming a revolver

??

Didn't know that

[solar sand]

idk what build were talking about anymore

but smite does not crit

[rare storm]

shee

[lethal lagoon]

Smite gives true aim for crits. Maybe confusion?

[cosmic sigil]

Smite + VC + warp charges

[cosmic sigil]

Yes I think

[fresh reef]

And of course, Psyker has a perfect line for this exact situation

"Sniper..? I think it's dead 🤨"

[solar sand]

"sniper? i barely knew her"

[strong gulch]

"I don't really aim, but I'm having a good time anyways."

[umbral helm]

"it's dead! ...I think"

[cosmic sigil]

I can probably no use true aim considering I use surgical and hand Cannon. If I want to crit I just have to wait.

[silver portal]

Anyone got future psyker drip?

[strong gulch]

Quick draw tho

[cosmic sigil]

There's still the option of the second bullet

[solar sand]

ok so whats the usecase for deimos, trying to get out of my mk4 but its the perfect whip it out and kill a mutty or a crusher pocket weapon, tried a few diemos, and i dont mind them, but i didnt see any reason to use them over mk4

[fresh reef]

"RAAAAGH! See!? We can all scream! "

For the longest time I thought this was a horde line, and only recently found out it's the autocall for ragers

[severe folio]

deimos have warp attacks

so you can generate warp rider while using

and warp shield

[tulip trench]

stab can 1 shot muties
warp attack can dome heavies

[rare storm]

actually wait

[severe folio]

technically deimos is the stronger dueling mk4

[fluid knot]

"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" = "Oh look, a mutie"

[rare storm]

ye maybe this

[tulip trench]

thors hammer for shooting lightning

[rare storm]

would be funny to see a stacked smite flames with MM and 6 stacks of wc

[lethal lagoon]

My comrade

[cosmic sigil]

Perfect. I am going to try this

[fluid knot]

Huh, thats actually sick, im so stealing that

[cosmic sigil]

Thanks

[strong gulch]

Force swords have really strong pushes. Properly build deimos can one shot mutants with H2.

Deimos is too fiddly for me tho.

[fluid knot]

Force Swords kill me too much to warrant using them

[cosmic sigil]

I feel safer with a deimos 😄

[fresh reef]

WICKED MEAT SACK!

[strong gulch]

I still don't know how I feel about the deimos H2 stagger change.

[lethal lagoon]

If you use surge staff without the thunder hammer head, you might as well just uninstall your entire PC

[rare storm]

Ya'll making me want to dl the extended wep customisation mod

[fresh reef]

I use it with the Trauma head, what should I do?

[lethal lagoon]

Install more ram

[lethal lagoon]

I use bull bucher cleaver for my zealot knife, somehow is more powerful.

[untold widget]

Drop Battle meditation and the smite augment for kinetic deflection imo

[rare storm]

I chose it this way because my man wants to play with smite

[untold widget]

nothing like trying to build up to max peril for a flaming shriek only to quell half of it down and having to build back up

[rare storm]

kinetic deflection do be good tho

[solar sand]

on crit? i cant get l1 or h1 to come anywhere close to 1 hitting mutty

[untold widget]

shrieking flame does way more damage than smite does anyways

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite does 80% of a shotgunner's health 🤷‍♂️

If you assume teammate chip damage, you can set off a chain reaction

[rare storm]

Ehh but actually kinda true on the battle med tho

[solar sand]

whenever i see a bunch of red bars

i know im about to pop off with fire damage

[rare storm]

battle med is so ass on things that don't cleave

[untold widget]

I considered running battle med on purg builds for more RMB time, but ended up struggling to keep my peril up for Warp Rider

fell out of love with it quite quickly

[brave charm]

Choosing between Warp Syphon and Empowered Psionics is so hard because they and the perks before it give me everything I want

[lethal lagoon]

battle med solid on scier's gaze and pyschonetic aura.

Reduce downtime a lot.

[untold widget]

yeah for sure

[severe folio]

instead of 150% damage on EP, i would rather smite have 75% peril generation

[untold widget]

but I don't really do gunker much at all

[solar sand]

def dont need it for purge, such little peril gen, its nice for EP smite though, as every little bit of uptime is rather significant, otherwise i never use it

[untold widget]

because killing things one at a time is for suckers

[brave charm]

Extra damage from peril
Better Brainburst
Fast meditation
Fast venting of peril on special kill

[rare storm]

I only use battle med when doing melee scrier+dd or with voidstrike honestly

[brave charm]

I want it all please I beg

[lethal lagoon]

75% is a bit much, smite spammers would annoy the game again, I'd rather the extra jumps be changed to 30% peril reduc or something.

[severe folio]

they wont annoy the game again

they already annoying the game

they are still here

[lethal lagoon]

True lmao

[untold widget]

I still like shrieking flame for damage and generally stick to smite for CC

[solar sand]

its not the damage, its the spread, regular smite isnt likely to catch a whole horde on auric, at least not before they swarm you and interrupt it maybe, without EP smite feels a lot less consistent for cc purposes at the highest levels

[untold widget]

I don't have all day to wait for smite to do something meaningful

[rare storm]

The devs did put a footnote saying they might explore further cost reduction in the future for ep smite tho

[brave charm]

What's wrong with Smite?

[severe folio]

its not whats wrong with smite

its whats wrong with some smite users

[brave charm]

The only psykers that draw my ire are the seeker shards because they keep STEALING ALL THE KILLS

THEY MAKE ME LOOK BAD

[severe folio]

what goes through their head when they see 4 brusiers

and decided

"I cast SMITE"

[untold widget]

idgaf about your green circles. the enemies are dead, thats the point of it

[lethal lagoon]

"See enemy"
Calculating
"Casts smite"

[severe folio]

see 1 enemy

"I Cast SMITE"

[solar sand]

only time i solo target with smite

is bursters

as smite will knockback and insta kill bursters

[severe folio]

what kind of smite does that to burster

[lethal lagoon]

tbf, switching to ability to gun and otherwise is ass on controller.

[brave charm]

I especially appreciate smite psykers because they usually bring the shield too, and I love the shield

[lethal lagoon]

If I was an xbox nerd, I might be a smite spammer

[brave charm]

Who doesn't love the shield?

[solar sand]

all of them?

[severe folio]

I dont think I have ever seen smite killing anything

even burster

[solar sand]

ill show 1min

i think its a bug actually

forces a detonation

[brave charm]

Well thats not the point of it anyhow

[solar sand]

but you do not get kill credit

[rare storm]

Don't think I've seen that either

[brave charm]

It's a big ass stun

[untold widget]

What goes through my head is "Ok, so here's some big boys. if I don't get them under control right fucking now my team is going to back up 3 fucking rooms trying to get away from them instead of making them dead. Here's some free kills smooth brains"

[severe folio]

yeah but if it can delete burster

[lethal lagoon]

2 EP smites will kill 100 shotgunners, beat that 🤓

[severe folio]

2 EP smite takes as much time to kill 100 shotgunners as BB kill 100 crushers

lol

[brave charm]

I even had a psyker get angry with us because he kept doing big wave stuns and had to yell in chat "you have to KILL them, my smite does no damage"

[lethal lagoon]

🤓

[solar sand]

all forms do it, EP/WS, lmb/rmb

as soon as it hits the burster it will knock it down

then about 1-2 seconds later it will detonate

[severe folio]

i think its faster if you push it

[rare storm]

Ahh yes, the kind of psyker players that have unbinded the melee key

[severe folio]

than smiting it

[untold widget]

its not

[rare storm]

And only cast smite

[untold widget]

the detonation is way faster with smite

[solar sand]

fuse doesnt have to be lite with smite

[untold widget]

and you don't have to be close

[solar sand]

it just blows up

[severe folio]

hmm

have to see it then

[lethal lagoon]

When people are so close yet so far to having self-awareness lmao

[rare storm]

And then comes the fuck pubs who shoot the buster as soon as you try to push them

[severe folio]

because this can be very friendly fire

[rare storm]

Then end up with 1/4 hp

because fuck pubs

[solar sand]

in mission 1min

to get a clip

[radiant sleet]

literally just happened to me 5 mins ago right after I hit the medicae station I was disappointed

[untold widget]

my main reason for using smite is so I can get Psykinetic's aura and stack true aim

[rare storm]

if you have a voidstrike, barrelmancy in darktide exists

[radiant sleet]

barrelmancy?

[severe folio]

blow barrels

[rare storm]

shoot any barrel the team mate walks past

Make them question everything

[untold widget]

calculate the angles on yellow barrels to catapult the zealot into bad guys

big brain playsss

[radiant sleet]

LOL okay I will do this with my friends next warm up game

[fresh reef]

"Bob, throw me!" energy

[fresh reef]

The key is having Surge

[untold widget]

lmso

[fresh reef]

That way it can explode before they even register it was shot

[half iron]

it’s like bardin never left🥺

[untold widget]

it insta blows with rmb anyways

cause of the cleave

[fresh reef]

Oh damn fr?

[radiant sleet]

that I do have

[fresh reef]

Neat

[untold widget]

if you get a true aim lmb though it'll surge to insta blow

ugh 1:30

i need to go to bed

[fresh reef]

I am unfortunately lacking in my knowledge on how to grief teammates 😔

[solar sand]

why the fuck can a level 16 join a damn mael?

[half iron]

i said so

[solar sand]

20+ maybe but come on

[untold widget]

if you have a yellow toughness bar vet on your team it doesn't even hurt

[severe folio]

Trev

are they called E Y E

[fresh reef]

Because some level 30 fuckstick dragged them in there

[untold widget]

Give me a level 5 ogryn with bully stick and rumbler and I'll do a damnation maelstrom

[rare storm]

tbh I tried a dmael when I was like 20 because I thought it was still like pre13 where damnation was easy

[untold widget]

idgaf

[rare storm]

was very wrong

[untold widget]

slapping dogs out the air n shit

[severe folio]

I recently found a level 16 psyker join damnation

They were called EYE

they stay at the spawn, tried to climb on the tank at the beginning of enclavum baross

[lethal lagoon]

I'm leveling another psyker, I had a guy complain about low levels in damn to me and told me to stop queueing for them after we finished. I had twice his damage lmao.

[severe folio]

they climb on it to avoid being hit, i think they intended to AFK the whole game

we kick them out

[solar sand]

how do you start a vote kick? ive seen it happen but never done it myself

[lethal lagoon]

escape social

[severe folio]

you pause game and go into social

[rare storm]

in the social options

[severe folio]

then click on the person you want to kick

[lethal lagoon]

people almost always hit no instantly, so it's largely pointless.

[untold widget]

yeah when I try and level another character after chaining auric missions, i feel like someone's fucking with me. like, where's all the damn enemies?

[solar sand]

i want super high intensity heresy

for leveling

[lethal lagoon]

I want malice, but literally just endless enemies.

[untold widget]

just walking around, idling picking up plasteel, staring at the scenery cause theres nothing to kill

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

like this

[lethal lagoon]

I want a level modfier that tests your PC before letting you queue for it

[dim parrot]

me fr

[severe folio]

backroom darktide

[dim parrot]

cause 4 some reason the pubs I queue with dont have plasteel problems

[dim parrot]

sibling studied the katana

[plucky flax]

monka

[lethal lagoon]

I think if you wait like 10 mins something will open.

[onyx sentinel]

how come Mettle and Perfect Timing have different trigger conditions for trauma staff, that's so wack

[strong gulch]

10 minutes is a long time.

[onyx sentinel]

Mettle gets a stack for each target while the latter only gets a single stack for each crit

[strong gulch]

Not just trauma.

[tulip trench]

alright

what do i need to change

shit stats but its all i have rn

[strong gulch]

Barrage to flurry
crit damage to flak

[untold niche]

can i set the staffs to quick cast on rmb? i.e. dont need to left click

[strong gulch]

Don't need charge rate if you only do LMB (meme)

[lethal lagoon]

Low key perfect. Crit hit to flak, barrage to flurry.

that's technically the meta atm.

Stats could be better

Yeah

[strong gulch]

You can animation cancel some of the RMB. Otherwise I am nt sure what you mean.

[lethal lagoon]

Also if your surge staff doesn't look like that, uninstall the game

[tulip trench]

haha

also

im in love with surge

forget voidstrike

while it is fun to knock bulwarks and crushers on their ass

surge too strong

[lethal lagoon]

Literally no pub kills ranged units, surge kills ranged units with an insta right click.

Perfect pub tool

[tulip trench]

yup

with bubble

its the

keep pub alive and dont die

[strong gulch]

zap those shotgunners

[dim parrot]

surge really still usable after the random body part targeting?

[tulip trench]

the knockback is so frustrating

[tulip trench]

they patched that

[rare storm]

This is fixed

[dim parrot]

hell yeah

[rare storm]

Surge is honestly the most fun staff to play

[lethal lagoon]

It's not "fixed", they just buffed limb dmage

[strong gulch]

Still hits radom armor.

[lethal lagoon]

It sitll targets whatever the fuck it wants

[rare storm]

Not the highest damage

but fun

[strong gulch]

Patched but not fully fixed

[lethal lagoon]

Surge weakspots make true aim super strong on surge though

I'd say surge is stronger atm than base surge

[rare storm]

ahh then patched mb

[dim parrot]

I might switch from void to surge?

[tulip trench]

wait.... can you aim the lightning?

[severe folio]

禁じられました。

[dim parrot]

gonna give it a try after work

[lethal lagoon]

Can't aim, it's random

In terms of limbs, body, weakspot

[strong gulch]

Surge is very usable but breakpoints are still fecked. Which is why unarmored is meta now.

[tulip trench]

kk thats what i thought

[lethal lagoon]

But surge does multiple hits per RMB

So true aim is OP as fuck on surge

Like it does a few mini ticks and then the big tick

Any tick can weakspot for true aim

[tulip trench]

oh true aim talent lmaoooo

[strong gulch]

You can mostly aim surge RMB at a target, but not a specific part of that target.

[dim parrot]

私は鴨フライとピーナッツソースがかかった麺が好きです

[untold niche]

meaning i just hold down right click ,let go and it fires.

[lethal lagoon]

Breakpoints are fucked, so you might as well go carpace is my logic

Unarmored and flak never wiped any group 🤷‍♂️

[strong gulch]

Be careful y'all. The rules say English only. Don't want ya getting banned or something.

[severe folio]

た麺が好ピーナッツソースがかきですライと私は鴨フスがかかっ

[solar sand]

@severe folio they dont have to be close, it does this whenever smite hits them

[dim parrot]

just mememing over here lmao

[tulip trench]

https://tenor.com/view/itysl-i-think-you-should-leave-oh-my-god-oh-my-god-you're-gonna-tell-on-me-you're-gonna-tell-on-me-gif-14238922261951460546

[severe folio]

interesting

[tulip trench]

im so happy this gif actually exists

[dim parrot]

now Im hungry ngl

fuck

[strong gulch]

When you find the gif you're looking for.

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-kanye-west-kanyevibe-gif-23816851

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[tulip trench]

omg....

surge can stun bursters

never going backl

[dim parrot]

can it teach me japanese tho?

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Yes.

Just set up a taser to shock you ever time you get a kanji wrong

[solar sand]

hardly game breaking, but its a nice, maybe lessor known aspect of smite

[lethal lagoon]

Basically surge

[solar sand]

surge takes 2 hits to pop a popper

on damn at least

or mine does

[lethal lagoon]

Neutralizing the popper is the important part though

Basically acts as a distant push

I've saved teammates quite a few times

If it one shot the popper everytime, it might actally be worse

[solar sand]

both knock them down

[dim parrot]

but like, surge without smite still good or nah?

[solar sand]

oh yeah

just surge needs

horde clear

to round it out

[lethal lagoon]

This is the broken -50% limb damage surge with smite

[dim parrot]

so illisi and shiny rocks?

[untold niche]

any setting or mod to do this?
basically fires as soon as you let go rmb

[lethal lagoon]

Surge and smite are the perfect pair

[solar sand]

rapid fire mod, bind rmb to lmb maybe

[lethal lagoon]

If oyou have a logitech mouse, a macro to do that is super easy too

[solar sand]

though ive found with charge it doesnt usually work right

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly gaming without a cheap hero logitech mouse is just silly

[solar sand]

logitech mice are like, objectively so good youd be silly not to

[left hare]

how do u guys do warp nexus vs

[lethal lagoon]

Literally just maschoism to not use a cheap hero logitech mouse

[left hare]

do u need to quell to 80 then charge again

[lethal lagoon]

I'm lazy af and just full quell most of the time

[solar sand]

most dont keep peril at 80%

in fact

i bet if you did a dps check over say 30 seconds

id wager the dps lost from quelling more times, is greater than the gain from staying high peril

[lethal lagoon]

Full quell does drop flurry charges though

As I said, it's about lazy versus optimized

[left hare]

is there a non nexus vs build then

[lethal lagoon]

Using voidstrike without Surge and Nexus is just as silly as not using a logitech hero mouse

[left hare]

well even without 80% it still gives some crit right

[lethal lagoon]

I think it starts at 20, yeah

[solar sand]

nexus you can go without, its usually BiS but crit is inconsistent so, flurry though is just busted, focused is nice but i dont run it on damn when im min-maxing

[lethal lagoon]

Void breh

[solar sand]

oh they all function the same for this discussion

[lethal lagoon]

Also, you have to ban yourself from psyker chat cause you don't have a thunder hammer head.

[solar sand]

void has surge though

[left hare]

wait how do u have a thammer head

[solar sand]

a mod i annoying cant get to work

[lethal lagoon]

Because I'm literally the emperor

Also a mod

[left hare]

holy moly

[lethal lagoon]

When you play psyker, dig two graves.

[solar sand]

basically you can edit the client side apperence of weapons, and armor with another mod. such as but not limited to, putting sights on guns that dont have them

which I wanted but i get a CTD no matter what i did

[lethal lagoon]

If fatshark released a skin that was Surge focused and came with a thunder hammer surge staff, I'd buy instantly.

[severe folio]

i hope we can add firearm heads onto staff eventually

want to replace voidstrike head with plasma gun

[lethal lagoon]

I hope they add more options to clubs for ogryns

you can't change anything 😦

I want a mini-thunder hammer on my ogryn club

[severe folio]

i want that book staff the sister of battle have

[solar sand]

i just want tarkov weapon modding in every game, smh lazy devs (/s)

[lethal lagoon]

I think they just straight up wern't allowed to have weapon mods by GM

[untold niche]

how does the quell slide work
i seem to be able to do it per just quelling like 3% per slide

[lethal lagoon]

That's why the mod even works, cause the functionality is ingame already

[solar sand]

hired gun got them didn't it?

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind most mods work cause the functionality is in-game to some degree.

It's not like this is skyrim

it's a server based game

[lethal lagoon]

Games workshop is so weird about the games made. For example, you can't use procedural generation in warhammer games.

[untold niche]

can voidstrike RMB quell cancel?

[lethal lagoon]

Race copyrights are sold like DLC

[severe folio]

want this staff

[lethal lagoon]

Oh fuck yeah

[solar sand]

wonder if thats why martyr feels so map wise (and otherwise) repetitive

[lethal lagoon]

That's literally the game I learned that from

[untold niche]

peepol ;-;

[solar sand]

as a person big into diablo, i really wanted to like martyr, its like, so close to being pretty good

[lethal lagoon]

Martyr was so good but so bad, but so good.

[severe folio]

healing staff

[rare storm]

What is rmb quell cancel

You mean like with toggle quell on?

[rare storm]

or spamming with lmb

[lethal lagoon]

Martyr psyker gameplay was so fucking cool though

[rare storm]

no just lmb

[solar sand]

funnily enough i found it right before d4 came out

so i played about 15 hours then d4 cam out and uh

havent touched it since

either really

[untold niche]

do yo uhave a vid?
i want to see how what is the difference >.>

[solar sand]

ive never seen a game nose dive as fast as d4, so much promise when it released

[lethal lagoon]

$100 DLC and pay to win currently incoming lmao

[untold niche]

idk its a well made game.
just tthat no new content

[solar sand]

like when it came out i loved it, but s1 and onward just, yikes

[untold niche]

i would do it but the thing is idk if im doing it correctly

[lethal lagoon]

d4 is about to enter the "let's completely abuse the few players we have left" phase.

[rare storm]

ehh nope

I think pygrex or syllogism has one

[tulip trench]

when the perfect run falls apart
surge feeling spicy though cant believe i was sleeping on it

[solar sand]

surge is amazing, within its limits

[lethal lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPGYtWQ77U

Good cancels here
For surge rmb

[tulip trench]

ya rushed by 5 ragers

[solar sand]

so as long as you are aware of those limits, and built around taking care of said limitations, its wonderful

[strong gulch]

Right after the RMB cast you press your quell button for faster casts. Can really speed up trauma.

But you can accidentally quell before actually casting and leave yourself compromised. Rewarding when you can do it reliably.

[rare storm]

Think he's asking about the lmb quell cancell spam

[solar sand]

does anyone know how canceling the damage on surge rmb works? like say if you swap mid cast, sometimes the damage goes off, sometimes it doesnt seem to

[lethal lagoon]

Lmb quell cancel is kinda of pointless atm.

So opps

Like sure if you are a macro user, go for it

But normal gameplay, nah

[rare storm]

it only doesn't go off on unyielding targets

[strong gulch]

There is also blitz cancel like with surge staff. You switch blitz and back after surge staff RMB to quickly chain casts.

[rare storm]

Because for those they need to go through some stunlock animation first

otherwise you can basically ani cancel as soon as you cast it

[untold niche]

it does feel faster but i don't know if its placebo especially since the guide say it only works for lmb and trauma rmb
im using voidstrike

[solar sand]

i do wish they kept allowing surge to benefit from lightning storm, 50% target increase was super nice

[lethal lagoon]

Running a Surge BB build back in the day 👼

[solar sand]

i dont think going from 2 to 3 was super busted, just nice qol with a little extra cc

[lethal lagoon]

Lightning strom only affects left click of smite

It's super useless

[strong gulch]

IDK about void, quell cancel is def faster on RMB trauma.

LMB got a speed boost, so LMB quell cancel is not really needed.

Before LMB was slow af

[lethal lagoon]

LMB animation canceling = current LMB

It was a great change honestly

[strong gulch]

yip

[lethal lagoon]

Animation canceling is dumb af in my personal opinion, it's a PVE game lmao

Make it so we don't need to do it

[rare storm]

You don't need to do it

It's just that you CAN do it

[lethal lagoon]

I need that DPS

[strong gulch]

You can still LMB quell cancel to go even faster, but not by much. Not worth it now. Save those fingers.

[rare storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-gif-21555978

just like how I need that 1% more charge rate on my void

[untold niche]

it actually is noticeably faster for the first half

[lethal lagoon]

Why throw away 359 when it's just one lower than 360

[solar sand]

think of all the time youll be saving going from .95 to .94 charge time

[rare storm]

79% is not enough

80 is enough

[lethal lagoon]

Why throw away 358 when its just one lower than 359

[rare storm]

no stop till perfect

[untold niche]

oops i read that wrongly ,i thought he meant the quell cancelling, didnt realize he meant stats

[rare storm]

is okay

[solar sand]

i havent played with my void much latetly but, on my surge i have a 64 charge and a 79 charge, .99 compared to .93, i dont think i can tell a difference, especially once you factor in flurry

[rare storm]

Does surge actually benefit from charge rate

I don't even rmb tbh

[plucky flax]

Surge right click is so strong why would you not use it?

[rare storm]

I know it's a minimum of 60

or something

[lethal lagoon]

Surge LMB is the best the in game

Literally no reason to RMB

RMB is for losers

[solar sand]

60% would be 1.04, 80% is .92

[rare storm]

oo

hmm

minimum of 65 then I guess

[lethal lagoon]

[solar sand]

seconds, not %

[rare storm]

I remember somebody did the "best stats" for surge before

[solar sand]

so .12 second difference or so

[lethal lagoon]

Surge has no best stats, just a roll a 370+.

[strong gulch]

Surge LMB mains rise up.

[rare storm]

can't remember who but it was some guy who wanted to qq cancel surge with scriers the entire game

[lethal lagoon]

The god of all mankind has entered chat 🙏

[solar sand]

ive started using it a lot more lately

but

if i wanted a gun id just use a gun idk

[half iron]

nerd.

[plucky flax]

Me boi @glossy ember

A fellow surge enthusiast but my build is much better.

[rare storm]

Sheee now that name do be looking familiar

Has he strayed from surge

[plucky flax]

No he's still playing it despite the current bug.

Like me. 😦

[rare storm]

what a lad

both be truly doing the emperor proud

[dim parrot]

I thought the bug got fixed?

[solar sand]

partially

enough to make it perfectly usable

[restive slate]

What bug?

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/bobawooyo-dog-confused-dog-huh-dog-meme-shocked-dog-gif-16713203299056947073

[plucky flax]

They can just revert the cosmetic change.

But noooo

[solar sand]

but its in theory doing less than ideal damage

[plucky flax]

It always does torso damage but it take into account different armour parts.

So on a shotgunner you hit arms (unarmoured) you do less damage.

[strong gulch]

They could buff surge.

[plucky flax]

On a mauler you hit head (carapace) you do less damage.

Same with reaper if you hit their arms (carapace).

[rare storm]

buff surge

[dim parrot]

yes pls

[plucky flax]

All of this because they wanted to do a cosmetic change.

[rare storm]

Agreed

[plucky flax]

Just fuck my shit up fam.

[solar sand]

i do enjoy the gibs though

[plucky flax]

[dim parrot]

noodles with fried duck and peanut sauce

[plucky flax]

Well they had the 100% gib. But they wanted to do sometimes just arms gib.

And thus the bugs begin.

[strong gulch]

Also previous cosmetics change with the vfx that gave people headaches or made them sick.

Surge might have a curse tbh

[dim parrot]

so maybe imma stay with void until they really ,,fix" it?

[plucky flax]

It's playable but you feel really bad when you should have 1 shot something and the target survive with 10% hp left because of the bug.

[half iron]

weird way to spell stub revolver, baybee‼️

[solar sand]

you dont really notice it now, its rarely an issue

[strong gulch]

I read friend duck

[solar sand]

before it was like

[dim parrot]

lmao

[solar sand]

real rough to use, you felt it near every attack

[plucky flax]

I notice it all the time with how many shotgunners and elite gunners there are right now.

[dim parrot]

who u calling baybee u grilled cheese

[solar sand]

for those few days i could barely clear heresy with it

[lethal lagoon]

But I love hitting weakspots 😦

[strong gulch]

ooh grilled cheese

[dim parrot]

im hungry og

[half iron]

myself. i am epic as fuck

[lethal lagoon]

Also if you just don't run flak or unarmored, who cares about limb tageting.

Just enjoy the weakspots on surge

[plucky flax]

Sure for a 1 in 6 chance. While there is 1 head, there are 4 limbs.

[dim parrot]

epic grilled cheese now in every store near u

[strong gulch]

The answer is put more heads on enemies.

[solar sand]

sometimes id one shot a crusher it felt like, most times i couldnt kill a shooter

[plucky flax]

Replace all 4 limbs with 4 heads tbh.

Then that's surge buff.

[strong gulch]

yee

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

There's 2 heads, 4 limbs 🙂

[plucky flax]

2 heads on what enemy?

[half iron]

those limbs like weezer

[glossy ember]

Nah but i play darktide less because i have wrist issues. Seeing the doctor today.

[lethal lagoon]

Crushers

[plucky flax]

Wut

[solar sand]

its still really good, just know that it might get better soon

[lethal lagoon]

Plague Ogryn has 3 heads. he wildin

[rare storm]

It's the qqcancelling

[glossy ember]

ugh, flame users...

[rare storm]

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

Hope the doc helps and has answers.

[glossy ember]

ironically it's the mouse hand not the keyboard hand lol so not even

[dim parrot]

aight imma keep my surge in my holster until its better again

[rare storm]

oh fr

[lethal lagoon]

Actual Heresy, Surge is OP AF

[glossy ember]

thanks, i hope too 🙏

[plucky flax]

Sounds like you need to embrace assail. Just left click.

[rare storm]

Are you a high sens player

[glossy ember]

low sens

[rare storm]

hmm odd

[glossy ember]

but my mousepad is small

[rare storm]

Hope it is nothing serious sibling

[glossy ember]

yeah hope too

i miss being a crackhead with my zap staff

[lethal lagoon]

6400 DPI or nothing 😡

[glossy ember]

its on da mouse...

[half iron]

the only crack i do is when i crank 90’s

[rare storm]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-26205596

[plucky flax]

Ye I'm saying assail is a low apm weapon. You left click every now and then and barely have to move your mouse.

[glossy ember]

https://youtu.be/mxPGYtWQ77U?si=3lKQN4lNf-wYkyXN it works

[glossy ember]

hmmm

i'll give it a go after work then

ty

[solar sand]

also if the issue is the wrist

ball mouse maybe

[glossy ember]

i been playing shieldgryn these days because its slower paced but my wrist still hurts after a while

[glossy ember]

the weird looking ones?

yeah i could try it

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[solar sand]

ive never used one, but i assume if a person has wrist mobility issues those are near the ideal solution

[glossy ember]

[lethal lagoon]

Run Blunt Club mk1 with a macro, you literally just spam heavies

Probably the most straightforward build in the game

You are functionally immortal

[plucky flax]

Or just play smite creeping flame warp charges spam.

Literally only use smite.

[lethal lagoon]

Plus feel no pain and at least 190 toughness, snipers can't cleave you

[solar sand]

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-ergo-wireless-trackball-mouse.html im a logitech simp so knowing nothing about this category of product, or your particular issue, something like this i suspect might be worth looking into

[glossy ember]

bought a razer mouse like two months ago too

[plucky flax]

I got a free wireless corsair mouse but it's really bad. It keeps losing signal for 1s every now and then.

[solar sand]

mouse life hack ive found

[lethal lagoon]

Logitech Hero mouse or go home 😡

[strong gulch]

Thought u meant old mouse for a moment.

[plucky flax]

As a 90s kid I remember this.

That ball area gets so dirty after a while.

[lethal lagoon]

The amount of blowing I had to do as a 90s kid, you'd think I'd need a therapist.

[strong gulch]

Pet hair

[solar sand]

ive found i can never keep a mouse more than 2 years cause the switches wear out, go to best buy, buy whatever mouse, spend the $15 on the 2 year protection plan, bring it in within the 2 years, even if not broken, get brand new mouse, pay the $15, get a new mouse every other year for just $15

[strong gulch]

true

[solar sand]

ive been doing that like, probably almost 10 years now

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, Logitech hero for $50. G502(hero).

[plucky flax]

Huh my sutff tend to not break. I have a keyboard that lasts for over 5 years now and still going.

[lethal lagoon]

Macros for all the random weird games I play

Free macro programs are all malware basically

[solar sand]

my keyboards last forever, but most mice uses the same omeron switches iirc, and for me with my usage they last about 2-3 years tops

[strong gulch]

I am going to be upset when my keyboard gives out.

[plucky flax]

My mouse at home from 2016 still lasts.

It's a cheap steelseries one. When it breaks I'll get a nice logitech mouse.

[solar sand]

G903 before this, Logitech mice are objectively perfect and I will not be dissuaded otherwise

[strong gulch]

It's not made anymore.

[lethal lagoon]

I have a keyboard for arthritis that's no longer made, I'm literally fucked once it's gone.

[lethal lagoon]

Perfection.

[solar sand]

I’ve been using Logitech since they came out with light speed, that shit is silly good

Wireless that’s measurably better than most wired solutions

Then they came out with the hero sensor and I charge my mouse 1-2 times a month

[lethal lagoon]

Logitech is such a widely better mouse than everything available, I'm convinced people only buy other mouse out of ignorance.

[plucky flax]

What's a good current logitech mouse? g502?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[solar sand]

I think razer is caught up for wireless solution, but it took them a while, though I’ll never go back to them (for mice)

[lethal lagoon]

Both wired and wireless g502 is solid

[low oasis]

I'm new to the game, and I'm really playing this to have a common game with a friend that likes it.
I usually play a caster, and psyker seems to be that for this game, but I'm having a rough time staying alive on difficulty 3/5.
how can I build a psyker to be mostly idiot-proof and still be useful to the team?

[lethal lagoon]

Assail.

[plucky flax]

For 80 quid

[solar sand]

I would super highly recommend a light speed Logitech mouse, there’s exactly zero reason to still be using wired and I simply can not recommend it to anyone

[lethal lagoon]

That's my current mouse. It literally comes with weights if you want to add it.

[jaunty tiger]

surviving as any class is not about builds and more about positioning

[lethal lagoon]

Fucking perfection

[jaunty tiger]

how are you dying

also abuse dodge and push with your melee because you can stall/kill generic mobs indefinitely with those tools

[low oasis]

usually a handful of times to bad positioning, and usually 2 or so times going pop due to over-periling

[jaunty tiger]

well, the peril thing is just something you have to watch

[plucky flax]

What are these X Plus for? They are not on sale.

[jaunty tiger]

as for bad positioning, in particular, you just need to be careful of specialist enemies

it doesn't ho wmuch tankiness you build

[plucky flax]

Would they make me play better?

[jaunty tiger]

a single lick of fire empties your toughness

a single trap/dog leave syou vulnerable

[lethal lagoon]

They have extra RGB lighting, so obviously worse

[solar sand]

Those are the top end ones, I have one and I have zero complaints or issues

[jaunty tiger]

if you're dying to generic mobs, then its just learning push and dodge

its not timing based

you can honestly just spam them lol

whenever they get too close

[plucky flax]

Is it just rgb?

[strong gulch]

Positioning is for sure really important.

[jaunty tiger]

so dont worry about the skill involved

[plucky flax]

If it is idc tbh my hand would cover the rgb anyway.

[jaunty tiger]

if its just that you find hordes overwhelming

[solar sand]

Different chassis, sensor, and lights

[jaunty tiger]

but if you die to specialists, yeah, you just need to be aware of them and know when you could be out of position

[lethal lagoon]

Once you go Hero, you are never a zero

Or something

Just get the G502

[low oasis]

so the specialists seem like a learning curve I just have to get over

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[jaunty tiger]

yes

[plucky flax]

But it's 50 pounds more. I am not professional cs2 player so I don't think I'll need.

[jaunty tiger]

the most dangeorus ones always make a noise

when they appear on the map

[low oasis]

for positioning, will "stay in the middle of the team" be good enough most of the time?

[jaunty tiger]

and

not necessarily

because your team can be dumb

but its safe to stick with them at least for the most part

[low oasis]

I'm not looking for how to carry, just how to not be a liability

[jaunty tiger]

just dont be afraid to back up if you need space

yeah i guess just stick with team then that's fine

[lethal lagoon]

The nerdiest looking guy I've ever seen in my entire life at microcenter recommended me the g502, and I've never looked back.

[jaunty tiger]

and yeah, for specialists

just watch out for the cackling/net noise for trappers

she cackles something like

HEHEH GONNA GET YA or something

[plucky flax]

Oh I meant the regular 502 vs the x pro 502.

[jaunty tiger]

dogs howl

[plucky flax]

I think just a regular one would suffice for me.

[jaunty tiger]

bombers shout something like "BOMBER READY TO FLUSH THEM OUT MOVING INTO POSITION" or whatever

[low oasis]

do you have a tree recommendation? I'm only level 15 currently, but I'll probably get to 30

[jaunty tiger]

so like when you hear that stuff just know they're nearby and probably comign for you

[lethal lagoon]

Probably, unless you play an MMO with 40 keybinds or something.

[plucky flax]

Cos this shitty corsair wireless mouse keeps cutting me off even though I am using wifi dongle connection (not bluetooth).

[lethal lagoon]

Gimme, a sec, level 15? I'll do one. What weapon you using?

[low oasis]

a random blue AR that I picked up since I like the crit blessing, but i normally use a Trauma staff. I'm trying to get good with it.

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma staff is shit until lvl 30

[strong gulch]

The videos are older but there is still useful info this channel's "DARKTIDE - Tips & Tricks" series. There combat phases, general, advanced things, etc.

CW. There is a Hogwarts Legacy vid right before Darktide vids.
https://www.youtube.com/@GurhmsGarage

[low oasis]

I'll go ahead and start chewing through those

[glossy ember]

my mouse is a razer basilisk v3

it feels nice on the hand

[jaunty tiger]

oh yeah

one last thing

[glossy ember]

wired, got it for 40 bucks

[jaunty tiger]

if you find gunners annoying

[solar sand]

In like 6+ years of wireless Logitech mice, not a single time has it dropped connection, lagged, or done a single thing to make remember it’s not wired, for connectivity I can say it’s genuinely been perfect

[jaunty tiger]

just iknow that sprinting in a roughly perpendicular direction from their shots

or sliding

makes you immune to bullets

[jaunty tiger]

they are much less scary when you know that

[lethal lagoon]

Just follow this for a while

[strong gulch]

I dumped them into a playlist. For some reason they aren't already in a playlist on the channel.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9cDlrYL_NDN7N5SL4zss9dFQqcnRV5H

[jaunty tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9WKsyMxasI&feature=youtu.be if you need a demonstration of what i mean

[plucky flax]

This came free when I got my laptop and yeah the mouse is okay but the occasional 'no input for 1s' sucks. And I know logitech wireless is really good so I am looking to get rid of this corsair mouse.

[jaunty tiger]

new players tend to find gunners really scary

but they're actually really easy to deal with when you know this

not that the game teaches you

[lethal lagoon]

Logitech Macros

[plucky flax]

I think I'll buy 2. 1 for home 1 for work.

160 pounds

[lethal lagoon]

160 pounds of pure perfection

Also known as me

But also logitech

[solar sand]

Their business ergo mice are nice, more comfy than the gaming ones (which are still very comfy)

For the work mouse

[lethal lagoon]

I gave my old logitech mouse to my mum(50s), works from home, and she fucking loves the thing.

[low oasis]

on the mouse topic, I use a MX Master 3, but I like the G502. the 502 is just a little small for my hand.

[solar sand]

For my last job I conned my boss into paying for this and it was a great work mouse

[lethal lagoon]

"The 502 is just a little small for my hand." Okay big guy, 😡

[strong gulch]

How much is shipping from the states? They are on sale for like $40 USD.

[plucky flax]

Wut that's cheap.

Is that from logitech usa site?

[lethal lagoon]

Do you mean the wired version?

The wired version is super cheap

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah I want wireless only.

[solar sand]

Pay the extra $10 for the x

[strong gulch]

oh feck yeah it's wired

[plucky flax]

Hmmmm

Oh it's on amazon. Lemme check.

Shit I was about to hit place order on logitech site.

[lethal lagoon]

I recommend the wired if you aren't settled on the mouse, twice as cheap.

But otherwise wireless is solid

[strong gulch]

my bad

[solar sand]

Absolutely do not do this

[lethal lagoon]

I used it for about a year, was fine

[plucky flax]

Oh that's US amazon.

[lethal lagoon]

Just depends on ur setup

[plucky flax]

The X on uk amazon is 109.

Can't afford 2 of these.

[solar sand]

This is the one I recommend to people unless they want the specific design of the 502 or 902

More simple design, but all the fancy sensor and wireless stuff

[shell radish]

a gpro will be a little cheaper

[lethal lagoon]

So basic 😦

Hero or zero

[solar sand]

The hero is the sensor

Which all these have

[shell radish]

you dont need braindead dongles poking out of the fucking mouse man

[plucky flax]

I'm ready to go guys any last words? Btw none of those codes worked. Honey scammed me.

[shell radish]

you just need a mouse that feels good with a decent sensor

[fading patrol]

Bruh
Why so expensive

[lethal lagoon]

It's 2 mouses

[plucky flax]

It's 2.

[shell radish]

why are you buying 2

are you stupid

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

No, he's genius

[shell radish]

why are you buying 502s

are you actually dumb

buy one gpro

[fading patrol]

Nah try sth like lamzu or pulsar
Cheaper, not weird shaped like this too

And buying 2 of the same wireless mouse sounds silly

[shell radish]

do brits still have lead paint in their walls lmao

what are you doing

[strong gulch]

Honey did scam you. Totally a "sale".

One for work and one for home

two set ups

[plucky flax]

I have gaming pc at home, and I am away during the week for work. Space is limited and I don't wanna carry a mouse + wire and shit everytime I leave the house.

What if I forget it at work?

No mouse at home.

[shell radish]

if you buy 2 502s please just take a long walk in the desert to figure yourself out

[lethal lagoon]

Then you aren't a hero

[low oasis]

Is there a staff you'd recommend pre-30?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge

Or Purg

[strong gulch]

Hero lost to the work grind. sad

[plucky flax]

You seem very opinionated with how others spend money for convenience's sake.

[lethal lagoon]

502 is what they recommend at micro center despite being paid based on commission, you are good(probably)

[plucky flax]

I also have 2 keyboards 1 at home 1 at work cos I'm sure as hell not plug, unplug, putting the keyboard in my backpack twice a day.

[solar sand]

Mechanically, the 502, 902, and gpro, are basically the same

Same sensor, same wireless

Difference is packaging, which you prefer

In my hands the 502 (x) style is the most comfortable, and therefore my favorite

But you can’t go wrong with any of them as long as it’s got the light speed as that’s the only truly important part, the hero sensor is nice but unless you rock 10k+ dpi it doesn’t matter, however it does improve the battery life significantly

[fluid knot]

The fuck is going on in here?

[plucky flax]

Tito might flip their shit if they find out I have multiple pairs of identical shoes.

[solar sand]

Like from 20 hours of usage to like 200 hours

[dim parrot]

talking about mice or something idk

[exotic tulip]

What to do with this

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/cinderella-jackandgus-hahaha-reactions-mouse-gif-5158672

[fluid knot]

My cat likes mice, well eatin 'em anyway

Also torturing them, which is not so cool

[fading iris]

This was an Emperor's Gift... he really wants do be free from the Golden Throne by dying

[untold niche]

atm trying deimos
it stumbles crushers.
how come people will prefer ds4?

[solar sand]

4 staggers crushers too

[exotic tulip]

Stumble is super fast

[solar sand]

But with the special

[spice veldt]

simpler moveset

[plucky flax]

Better at dealing with specials.

[untold niche]

no as in the deimos make the crushers fall

[spice veldt]

and the special is snappy to use, even if it doesn't knock crushers onto the ground

in addition, crushers have 3 seconds or so of stagger immunity after being knocked down to the ground

whereas this does not occur if you simply inflict weak/medium stagger to them

[exotic tulip]

I am meaning the special comes out really fast on the DS IV, and can be combo'd with the heavy

[solar sand]

Also, zoomies, mk4 movement bonus is like 60% or something silly

[exotic tulip]

Also since it hits a weakspot it gets your rending up faster.

[plucky flax]

I like mk4 sword but can't stand deimos.

[untold niche]

ahhh

[orchid nest]

prefer deimos myself. mk4 is nice though, use it sometimes

[untold niche]

ok thank you acro :D

[solar sand]

I’ve been trying lately but I just can’t make the switch

[plucky flax]

Switch from what to what?

[solar sand]

To Deimos

I love my mk4

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah the heavies are bonker. They really shafted mk2 and mk5.

[spice veldt]

I also generally don't like knocking enemies down to the ground if I can help it, though that's just a quirk of the current deimos for some reason

it'll prob get reverted back eventually

[strong gulch]

Special on deimos also animation locks you, it takes a long time to complete, and you're vulnerable during that time. If you get grabbed before the animation finishes, you don't deal the damage.

[untold niche]

yeah i hate that about deimos so i don't really use that

the h2 does insane damage anyway

[plucky flax]

Illisi my beloved.

[solar sand]

Haven’t used diemos much but have used chain sword and that animation lock is a bitch

[plucky flax]

Ez light spam weapon.

[strong gulch]

Deimos H2 does have a lot of damage. One shot mutants. But the move set is fiddly.

[untold niche]

how does illisi compare to ds4? :v

[fluid knot]

I would imagine a lot of the super strong stagger stuff is gonna hit hit ngl, some of it is straight busted. Deimos is one of em

[strong gulch]

Yip. That.

[fluid knot]

"Oh no, i accidentally sent a Crusher into the underhive, terrible..."

[solar sand]

Slightly better cleave/horde clear, though no were near the single target I’m pretty sure

[untold niche]

mr acro plos com back
man isn't leveled enough to try illsi, and even if i am, prob can't tell the actual benefits

[spice veldt]

illisi is akin to vet's psword

[untold niche]

i assume it has AOE stagger of some kind?

josho said its better against ragers compared to ds4

[solar sand]

But I can pull out mk4 and it’s horde clear is surprisingly serviceable, not great but, usable

[cosmic sigil]

Crusher on the ground is how we steal his lunch money.

[untold niche]

Havent touched vet
only zeal and oggie 30

[spice veldt]

basically a cleaving special

[untold niche]

that staggers?

[spice veldt]

ye

staggers ragers in their combos

[untold niche]

ok so im correkt

[spice veldt]

doesn't stagger crushers

[strong gulch]

Illisi and DS are quite different. Illisi is easy horde clear. I mean actual clear, not just manage. The special is fast, but it does fall short on crushers.

DS falls short on hordes, but it can manage them.

[solar sand]

Issili special is PS but without power cycles

[untold niche]

not e ven a tiny bit?

[plucky flax]

Illisi has really good horde clear and specials damage. Not good against carapace or unyielding.

[spice veldt]

nay

[untold niche]

gey

pui

[spice veldt]

especially since crushers got their stagger resistance bumped up

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-gif-9232876

i guess im a true meta slave :v

[strong gulch]

They are both really good, but like on opposite ends of the spectrum of what they excel at.

edit: they = illisi and DS

[plucky flax]

Illisi is definitely meta.

More so than deimos I'd argue.

[river dawn]

What procs this exactly? is it only BB?

[cosmic sigil]

Illisi plus revolver is problem solved

[spice veldt]

basically anything that generates peril, and soulblaze, are warp attacks

[solar sand]

Everything that isn’t a regular sword or gun, will likely trigger that

[untold niche]

im playing gaze voidstrike because im an edgelord that wants to 1 tap crushers

[river dawn]

Ooh so if i spread purgatus over a horde, each kill is proccing it?

[spice veldt]

yup

[river dawn]

Oh sweet thanks!

[plucky flax]

Yeah the burn and even the direct damage will.

[strong gulch]

force sword specials are warp

[solar sand]

Soulfire, smite, assail, force sword specials br etc.

[untold niche]

wait soulfire is warp

[solar sand]

Staffs

[cosmic sigil]

Do you explode often?

[spice veldt]

i've been running illisi again now that I'm running gunker in proper

sad not being able to dunk crushers in 3 hits, but it's good enough

[untold niche]

atm, my first few games in malice prob like 2 times per game?
but even then its not hard to learn how to not to to explode

literally just look for 96% before you fire

its just sometimes i get too excited

because this is fun game

[plucky flax]

All my gun builds use assail for horde clear and ds4 for single target.

[spice veldt]

yeah i have some insane tunnel vision as well

[strong gulch]

Mk 2 dueling sword?

[orchid nest]

I have been back to deimos on my gunker and just taking ep assail to supplement horde clear

[plucky flax]

Mk2 heavy poke vs mk4 heavy poke...

[spice veldt]

people said that the mk2 duellies apparently weren't that much greater in hordeclear

[plucky flax]

Literally the same but one is not like the other.

[spice veldt]

so i was like eh whatever I'll just stick to what I know best

[strong gulch]

truly

[river dawn]

Does this affect the current burn stacks on enemies? like if i apply 6 stacks of burn and after that increase my peril, will that burn get increased damage or does it only apply on damage AFTER my peril is high?

[spice veldt]

former
the damage of DoTs is updated in real-time

[strong gulch]

Mk 2 is easier against hordes for me, but I can see the perspective on that.

[compact cargo]

siblings cosmetics are out

[plucky flax]

Wut?

Like new bi-weekly stuff?

[orchid nest]

I think they mean the vanguard thing

i'm not logged in though

[compact cargo]

No

free stuff

[plucky flax]

[quasi junco]

whats with the hair?

[spice veldt]

neat

[untold niche]

saw someone get that, how to get?

[orchid nest]

xqc if he was a psyker

[compact cargo]

It's free

[compact cargo]

Low graphics

[quasi junco]

oh

[compact cargo]

it looks better on high end since hair isn't 2d

[plucky flax]

FartShart stamp of quality.

[strong gulch]

Is it new cosmetics without a clipping issue? no

[potent echo]

It's a struggle

It's hard to imagine fatshark having a proper cosmetic pipeline

Or a proper anything pipeline

[lethal lagoon]

Literally everything that does warp damage. All staves, specials for force swords, all blitz, warpfire, etc.

[strong gulch]

Almost hit delete operative instead of menu. Classic potato moment.

[plucky flax]

[limpid lily]

guys I think they did sth to this helmet, darkened the colors a bit I think

A while ago:

[blazing echo]

ngl, the Psykers new stuff is the least appealing of all of them

[limpid lily]

now

[half iron]

psyker needs more big collars

i want to be even more of a warp rizzard

[potent echo]

I really hate that they are changing cosmetics after they are released

[rigid rune]

when are we getting bigger hats

this hat is wide not tall

[potent echo]

It's so stupid

[half iron]

big collar is bestest

[gloomy magnet]

i just bought the game recently, so i missed a lot of cosmetics T-T

[royal granite]

some of the jackets have amazing collars to accommodate the neck ring

[strong gulch]

Yeah it was changed. Something about metal textures.

[untold niche]

for a level 12 psyker i think i did pretty good (malice) :v

[royal granite]

wish we could get some dracula type shit going on though

[half iron]

i don’t need the jacket

[quasi junco]

jesus the last 8 out of 10 psykers I've played with used purg

[untold niche]

do i need to claim it or something

[quasi junco]

this staff was never used on launch lol

[compact cargo]

If u played during the days before the 18th u got it

[half iron]

purg was my main staff until the class update

[limpid lily]

honestly it doesn't look too bad, but just need some time to get used to xD

[untold niche]

i think i did play before that ( that was afte ror before p13?)

[compact cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1179361796251983932/image.png?ex=65798143&is=65670c43&hm=cae4f19f0d1d5bbf3c8a3206bea004776ac0ea0884c19fc33642f7fd6a099232&

[untold niche]

mr bigj

[compact cargo]

idk

[strong gulch]

I feel you. Not bad. Different vibe.

[limpid lily]

yeah...but honestly would love for it to be sorta shiny again

[strong gulch]

I liked the brighter look before. My outfits were messed with. sad

[cosmic sigil]

Pig mask again uuuurgh

[half iron]

i never looked close enough. i don’t mind getting my magical hands magically dirty

[bitter escarp]

ngl some days these purg bois feel like they just don't want to learn melee

[stuck shoal]

purg works tho

even for aurics

with a good build

[patent hatch]

Which would make a better base or reroll?

[strong gulch]

Left

[stuck shoal]

left

[strong gulch]

Burn and cloud radius are the most important on purg.

[half iron]

i use melee with purg when the enemies look at me too funny
the special melee baybee‼️💯💯

[stuck shoal]

warp resist and quell just too low on the right too

[patent hatch]

Cool cool!

[stuck shoal]

reminds me i need to redo my purg it's all 80 except my burn it's 68

[strong gulch]

Cloud radius 80 and burn 76+ are your targets. That's for min/maxing tho.

[patent hatch]

79/80 not much of a diff to care

[strong gulch]

Honestly a healthy way to be. Don't get sucked in by the gambling.

[patent hatch]

Run gun Psyker 90% of the time anyway 😂

[half iron]

stub swag

[patent hatch]

nahh gotta get that uzi

[bold flint]

not sure ill use anything from the new pack for psyker but sifting through my cosmetics does give me new ideas

[bitter escarp]

psyker needs headgear with glowing lenses

[patent hatch]

real

[floral kayak]

Alrighty guys

Reroll unyielding?

and get 5% crit?

[potent echo]

Flak unarmored if you want a consistent surge

[floral kayak]

unarmored? o.o

[lucid horizon]

is this good?

[vestal fulcrum]

Many common enemies have Unarmoured body parts

If Surge decides to hit that part, you do not get your damage bonus from say, Flak, if the target’s base HP type is Flak

[late yew]

No, it is in some gibberish

[lethal lagoon]

Not really, you want 370+ for surge and pretty balanced stats.

[bold flint]

like shotgunners

[ocean cipher]

BB/Smite viable?

[lethal lagoon]

That said, some people consider warp resist a dump

so you can test it out

[vestal fulcrum]

Why are you asking? Each blitz does something well.

[lucid horizon]

but warp resistance is that really important?

[ocean cipher]

i know, its just assail's been doing creazy stuff

[lucid horizon]

yes i heard that too

[vestal fulcrum]

I rarely see Psykers with Assail as of recent, most have moved to Smite or BR

[floral kayak]

makes sense

[vestal fulcrum]

Regardless, each blitz is good

[floral kayak]

Yeah, assail just does jack shit when you are confronted with 4 crushers, 4 maulers and 6 berserkers

[late yew]

that was joke ab out language

34% for real is too low though

[lucid horizon]

[quasi junco]

same

only gunkers take it now

[floral kayak]

It's good for steamrolling <damnation

[sudden trellis]

I tend to pair assail with voidstrike builds; because you can only really afford it when you HAVE an answer to those armored convoys come through the door

[quasi junco]

I managed to stunlock a chaos spawn with back to back weakspot crits earlier, was hilarious. Thing sat there for 6 seconds. Voidstrike

[late yew]

with void you don't need blitz at all

[frozen osprey]

Reroll unyielding for flak imo

[potent echo]

Surge assail still good as assail still amazing vs hordes

[frozen osprey]

I use surge smite i really love it
Practically zero reason to use melee when nothing can get close to me

[spice veldt]

i run with assail with void for spread-out groups