#psyker-class

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woeful patio
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But that’s just me

spice veldt
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as much as you can afford the peril and space

echo turtle
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Uncanny is kind of over rated

It only changes damage significantly on flak and carapace

woeful patio
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Yes but crusher scary

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👉👈

echo turtle
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Slaughterer will get damage to a comparable level into flak, and carapace well, if you want to kill carapace the deimos is way better at it

woeful patio
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Or blitz

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Or staff

echo turtle
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Or anythinf

woeful patio
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True

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Might consider getting rid of Uncanny

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But the bliss I feel melting a Crusher with Light spam

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Orgasmic

echo turtle
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Yeah, uncanny will get you more damage into Carapace conditionally, while slaughterer is easy to proc and increases damage into everything

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Does the illisi special heavy interrupt crushers mid swing?

woeful patio
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No

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Trust me I’ve tried

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At least not the uppercut

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The big slam

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The “you’re downed and about to be dead”

echo turtle
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Yeaaaah I wouldn't bother trying to make the illisi into an anti crusher anti elite weapon if it can't control the fight

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It's great into hordes and decent everywhere else

woeful patio
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Only Obscuris and Deimos lock them

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Illisi is for clearing chaff

echo turtle
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Deimos drops them into he floor with the H2 into weakspot

woeful patio
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Yeah

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With a uncanny right?

echo turtle
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With or without

woeful patio
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Wuh

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what

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No crit?

echo turtle
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I just did a video above killing ragers and crushers with a deimos that had stam and block efficiency on it

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No crit

unborn flicker
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Illisi special cannot be used if you are cornered and crowded

echo turtle
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Executor was the blessing that particular weapon got locked with

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So a dead blessing

woeful patio
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I refuse to use a force sword without deflector

spice veldt
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depends on the situation, but you really shouldn't be cornered

woeful patio
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So I’m essentially always flexing uncanny

echo turtle
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If you wanna see the block push elite juggle I posted a link to my stream above

woeful patio
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Might have to try something else

echo turtle
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It's a 30 second video showing it

woeful patio
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I was thinking Shred

spice veldt
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if you're surrounded on all sides during open-area events, then yeah dodging sideways isn't going to work

echo turtle
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And I don't even do it well

spice veldt
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but if you can afford the peril and space

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which is generally frequent

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then just spam the special

unborn flicker
echo turtle
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Yeah, charge while moving into the illisi special lunge is great

But it falters into elites from my experience

unborn flicker
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Gives me two slashes of nice dmg

echo turtle
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Every slash can be great damage if you spam the charge

spice veldt
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I see a lot of people shit on the obscurus, and I'd expect to proportionally see the same amount of people shit use the illisi special

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because without its special, the illisi really is nothing special

woeful patio
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The Obscuris isn’t BAD

echo turtle
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Did the obscurus get some wild buffs?

It was bad even before the new swords dropped

woeful patio
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The Deimos and Illisi are just better

unborn flicker
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I need a YouTube video showing the differences

spice veldt
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if you aren't using the special, just use the deimos

woeful patio
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I exclusively used the Obscuris in the beta

unborn flicker
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Because three of the force swords are the same to me

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Just different skins

woeful patio
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Heresy

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You will be burned at the stake

echo turtle
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If you want to do massive single target and be able to stagger elites, use the deimos

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If you just want horde clear, illisi

static needle
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worth buying for blessings?

spice veldt
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yeah and I exclusively used the obscurus for 500 hours before the new force swords dropped

echo turtle
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Illisi can block push juggle too though

woeful patio
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Obscuris is supposed to be a middle ground between the two

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As I understand

echo turtle
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Just lacks the follow-up stagger the deimos has

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It's not

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It has all the weaknesses of both weapons with none of the advantages

unborn flicker
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Two handed force sword

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When

spice veldt
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more of a worse Deimos, sadly

echo turtle
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Imagine demos without the single target damage

spice veldt
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it's 2nd light needs a new animation

echo turtle
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That's the obsurus

unborn flicker
spice veldt
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and something to be done with it's special

echo turtle
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It was the original sword

thorn cedar
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2nd light is the stab right

spice veldt
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the uppercut

echo turtle
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Then they made two swords that weren't trash, and left obscurus to rot

spice veldt
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3td light is the stab

thorn cedar
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been so long since i obsur'd

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riiiight

spice veldt
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so the light stab is fairly late into the combo

thorn cedar
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maybe i should break it out

spice veldt
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and is behind this stupid ass uppercut

thorn cedar
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lmao

woeful patio
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Obscuris was the first force sword

spice veldt
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on a weakspot weapon

woeful patio
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Deimos and Illisi came after

echo turtle
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Simple fix for obscurus, change the activation to deal extra damage, cleave and armor penetration. Then let it remain active for 3 swings and not get locked on the enemy

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Now it's like a power sword, and different from the other force swords

spice veldt
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the obscurus certainly feels like a relic of a different era of design

thorn cedar
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deimos is too fun rn with its h2

echo turtle
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People just ran it for deflector, back before we had more than 6 guys shooting on screen

thorn cedar
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just dismissing the biggest of boys on a headshot stab

echo turtle
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Just different

spice veldt
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my more conservative changes would be to give obscurus better defensive stats

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or maybe we differentiate force sword even more by adding a new push attack

echo turtle
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8 dodges, built in block efficiency

Faster attacks

unborn flicker
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I want a force sword that’s always charged but constantly gains peril while using it

echo turtle
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That's just scriers gaze

unborn flicker
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Yeah but without running that shit

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I’m not a gun psyker

quick tulip
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You don't have to be gunker to run gaze

unborn flicker
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What can it be used with

quick tulip
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It works best with, sure, but it's still a damage buff

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Hell, there's a modifier for it that ups finesse damage

unborn flicker
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Melee gaze?

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Sounds sus

spice veldt
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I wouldn't use it without guns esp because of the mental overhead adding more peril

unborn flicker
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I wish scriers offered more peril quelling options

spice veldt
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but it sounds like nice practice for paying more attention to your peril, at least

unborn flicker
spice veldt
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wooooo

lunar hollow
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the 5 wounds psykers bravely killing a cumulative 7 poxwalkers with their explosions

unborn flicker
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Two trauma right clicks and there goes Your head

woeful patio
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Not sure why they behave differently

unborn flicker
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I do love that

spice veldt
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prob cuz the illisi copies the psword's stuff

woeful patio
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Mmmmm

unborn flicker
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Just wish I could swing more with special

spice veldt
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e.g., the first target bug on the illisi

echo turtle
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NGL illisi feels bad after running around with a mk3 Psword with power cycler

unborn flicker
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One and done is too little

woeful patio
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I’d assume it’s because FS doesn’t play the game

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And yeah give Illisi power cycler pogryn

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Fuck it

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Warp Cycler

echo turtle
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It could easily be a talent

shrewd holly
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Do weak monstrosities count towards Malleus Monstronum?

lunar hollow
echo turtle
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They sure play ogryn

They gave that class everythinf

woeful patio
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Deflector could also be a talent

unborn flicker
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I wonder if we will get more points or subclasses later on

woeful patio
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Keep in mind it needs to be a Private Match

unborn flicker
shrewd holly
woeful patio
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Hopefully we get another talent overhaul later down the line, V2 is the golden standard imo as currently BB Psykers aren’t allowed to get Mind in Motion which is BULLSHIT

plucky flax
woeful patio
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Arbitrarily locking talents to certain prior nodes is dumb

plucky flax
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I'd much rather use illisi than mk3 power sword.

woeful patio
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Power Sword can’t have deflector

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Checkmate Veterans

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Kinetic Deflection + Deflector

lunar hollow
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mk3 isnt even the good one anymore its the mk6

woeful patio
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Hnnnnnnnng

echo turtle
echo turtle
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Talents need to be getting me that sweet sweet damage

woeful patio
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I live for Kinetic Deflector

shrewd holly
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Force swords with deflector and Kinetic Deflection are fucking epic tho

echo turtle
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KD is good

woeful patio
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It’s so much fun

echo turtle
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8 stam, 86% block efficiency

woeful patio
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And Deflector is MANDATORY imo

echo turtle
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It's a thing

woeful patio
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Wish it was a talent

fluid knot
unborn flicker
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Gunnersstaregryn

woeful patio
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The little bastard shootyboys ended too many of my runs

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Deflector stays on

echo turtle
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Deflector is great, with how the game is now blocking range and getting 30% block efficiency is extremely good.

fluid knot
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It do sometimes be like that KEKW_ogryn

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Little fuckers

woeful patio
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Deflector still works while reviving too doesn’t it?

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Or was that patched

echo turtle
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No

woeful patio
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Bastards

echo turtle
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It hasn't worked like that for a year or something

hollow current
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rip e z docket and experience farm.

echo turtle
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If he dies, he dies

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Simple as

hollow current
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almost 40k xp from that mission on a guy we power leveled.

echo turtle
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34k.bonus?

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That's a lot right? I feel like that is a lot

hollow current
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from the curio bug that got fixed today. KEKW_ogryn

echo turtle
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Awe

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Would be a real shame if players got to have fun

woeful patio
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Would be worse if we could meaningfully customize our weapons or characters

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God forbid

spice veldt
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rip docket bug

woeful patio
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Will be missed

echo turtle
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Awe snap I didn't even know the dockets were bugged too

woeful patio
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It will be entered into the halls of remembrance

hollow current
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no more getting 25k a minute at the end of power matrix.

woeful patio
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😦

echo turtle
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Y'all were holding out on me

woeful patio
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Honestly

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With how much fucking COINS it takes to roll profane weapons ya should have been shouting this from the rooftops

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Or at least the balcony of the mourningstar

azure bridge
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yo, kinetic resonance is great

hollow current
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I told everyone months ago and most were skeptical. 😝

unique sand
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dont use trauma but im guessing this is mega bricked

woeful patio
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I mean

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Blazing Spirit isn’t bad on Trauma

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Grab that for sure

unique sand
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dont know what is the ideal blessings and perks

willow hazel
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61 is a bit low for Charge Rate

woeful patio
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I’m going to argue Nexus and Blazingn Spirit

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That’s MY personal favorite combo

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But Rending is pretty decent

willow hazel
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I wish Blazing Spirit wasn't capped at 6 stacks

unique sand
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there should be no limit on soulblaze stacks

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i say

scarlet bear
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what you gusy think of my psycher

woeful patio
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Blazing Spirit needs work for sure

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Especially on Melee

unique sand
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dont like all the hairs with bald patches/shaved bits. personal preference

woeful patio
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Right now it’s just a meme

scarlet bear
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yeah i though it made me look a little bit more mad

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XD

woeful patio
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Skrillex hair

scarlet bear
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i am more of a bob fan

unique sand
scarlet bear
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i ll look into it

woeful patio
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Still waiting on Premium Voices and Character Customizations

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Like hair and facial hair

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Or Tattoos

unique sand
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krieg mask and this shirt looks fire

woeful patio
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Krieg Mask was undercooked

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Not supposed to be burlap

unique sand
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same thing witht the toilet bowl

woeful patio
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Same applies to other classes

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Agree 100%

unique sand
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surprise surprise the only 2 nice krieg masks are the ones you have to buy seperatly

woeful patio
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Can’t wait for the gold variant so I can flirt with Zealots

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“Here’s your golden throne”

unique sand
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but i think its weird that ogryn and zealot's outfit isnt fully sealed

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like how krieg outfits should be

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there should be no exposed skin

woeful patio
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Again, undercooked

scarlet bear
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well you know faith will save the zealot 😛

woeful patio
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FatShart knows Krieg is incredibly popular and raised the price

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Not the quality

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Very dumb

plucky flax
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FartShart seal of approval.

unique sand
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at least i can still look like a pimp as psyker

plucky flax
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FartShart stamp of quality.

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It's the classic.

scarlet bear
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dont you look dashing

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just becuse civilization is falling dont mean fashion died too 😛

woeful patio
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Bro if we could customize the patterns or colors on cosmetics I’d just fucking buy everything

unique sand
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we might be fighting off the darktide but i am leading the wave of the driptide

woeful patio
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But it’s terrible

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It’s so busy

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And the other variant that hasn’t hit the store yet is worse somehow

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Been in the files since release

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Gods the colors and patterns are a mess

unique sand
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im a space psychic pimp

woeful patio
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Real pimps wear Beanie Baby coats

unique sand
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buy

scarlet bear
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lol

woeful patio
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Dude there’s so many GOOD cosmetics in the files

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You can view them with mods

woeful patio
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I’m waiting for them to release

scarlet bear
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isnt as bad as the pure white zealot outfit

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XD

unique sand
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though all the nice ones seem to be for vet

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zealot has shite

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psyker is meh

woeful patio
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There’s a Kinetic Deflector set for Psyker

unique sand
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ogryn is also meh

woeful patio
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Seems to be earnable in a future update

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Also yeah Ogryn has nothing

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Even the hidden cosmetics are mediocre at best

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Poor guy

scarlet bear
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oh earnable?

woeful patio
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Yes

scarlet bear
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i am intrested

unique sand
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like seriously

woeful patio
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The unfinished description says “Tier 4”

unique sand
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just release the sevlar cumdogs skins alr

scarlet bear
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where did you see it?

unique sand
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they accidentally released them before

woeful patio
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It’s in the files

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I have a mod that lets me see them

scarlet bear
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ah ok

woeful patio
crude cape
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Hows uncanny strike on the illisi?
never used to use it (unstable, slaughterer, maybe deflector)
but saw someone talking about it today and posted a little vid of uncanny breakpoints when stacked, it seems pretty good.
is this a viable way to build illisi now?

woeful patio
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Very interesting

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I use Uncanny and Deflector on my Illisi

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Very good

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The best setup? Probably not. But viable

crude cape
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no one used to use uncanny on it, bc its charged mode was good vs armor

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what changed?

echo turtle
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It's decent into flak and carapace but loses damage vs slaughterer into everything else

woeful patio
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Nothing?

unique sand
crude cape
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guy i was looking at was rocking slaughterer + uncanny. I imagine unstable + uncanny would be just as good

echo turtle
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Unstable and uncanny is more reliable power, but a lot lower ceiling

spice veldt
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rending got that buff, and mauler/crusher jumpscares do happen

woeful patio
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I can see the upcoming “Sorry were so greedy” pack

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Pearlclutcher bundle

unique sand
woeful patio
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Whatever it’s called

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Private source

echo turtle
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What breakpoints is it hitting that matter?

woeful patio
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I can send though

unique sand
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yes please

echo turtle
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I think blood thirsty is still overall the best bonus aside from maybe slaughterer

unique sand
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im still on the older version i think

woeful patio
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Not gatekeeping it, I literally don’t know where it came from

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Otherwise I would share

unique sand
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could you send the mod file?

woeful patio
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Yeah

unique sand
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thanks

woeful patio
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Off shift in a bit

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Has the same color scheme as the max rank earnable cosmetics currently

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Gold/Black/Red

candid crest
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How is the Unstable Power + Slaughterer combo on Illisi? Any good or keep rolling?

woeful patio
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Slaughterer is good, I haven’t tried unstable power much though

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What tier?

candid crest
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T3 Unstable + T4 slaughterer. Perks are unyielding (for reroll) and unarmored

woeful patio
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Anything less than a 3 gets replaced IMO

echo turtle
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I advocate for deflector myaelf

static needle
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Is precognition really that useful with a duelling sword?

woeful patio
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Yes

static needle
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the blessing i mean

echo turtle
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Is that the 6 second buff?

woeful patio
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More finesse damage if I recall

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66%?

echo turtle
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The two second one is amazing, if you get to use it. The 6 second buff is the one you want

woeful patio
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Might be pulling it out of my ass

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60%?

echo turtle
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I can't remember

woeful patio
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I think it’s 60

echo turtle
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They proc on dodge, one doesn't last long enough to be useful

woeful patio
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Yeah

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It’s Precognition and….

static needle
woeful patio
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Another one

echo turtle
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Rampage and uncanny I think is BiS atm

woeful patio
echo turtle
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Shred also decent

woeful patio
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It’s a separate blessing

echo turtle
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So long as rampage is bugged, it's insanely good

static needle
woeful patio
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One lasts 6 seconds and the other is 2

echo turtle
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Roll up more weapons

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Welcome to darktide

woeful patio
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2 second one doesn’t last long enough to be useful

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At least not meaningfully

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Imo

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I’m not about to spend a dodge on 2s buff

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6s though? Good trade

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That’s long enough for it to regen

echo turtle
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Well with 6 seconds it will proc naturally and stay up

idle bay
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Sneaky Fatshrk made a Gachi reference

echo turtle
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With 2 seconds, buff uptime is negligible

woeful patio
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YES

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RIPOSTE

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PRECOGNITION AND RIPOSTE

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That was eating at me

static needle
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eh dont need both

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one is enough tbh

woeful patio
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Ofc not

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Ditch the 2s

static needle
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hmm

echo turtle
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Uncanny is the most important for dueling sword

candid crest
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Shred + Riposte is nice tho I would take Uncanny in one of the slots any day on an Mk4

static needle
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yes, that i have

woeful patio
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Absolutely melt crushers with uncanny DS

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Like butter

echo turtle
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Yeah, so long as you have that ur good

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That's like, weapon enabling. The rest is perfecting

static needle
echo turtle
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Flak and maniac for perks matter more than having an optimal second blessing

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Rampage

spice veldt
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i'd pair with rampage, if not running melee/monstrosity maelstrom

echo turtle
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But I think that is gonna get fixed at some point

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Riposte, for 6 second buff on dodge is excellent and unlike rampage, won't get changed

woeful patio
echo turtle
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Shred is good, it just falls off a lot

woeful patio
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Yeah

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You’re spamming lights all the time though

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Mixing heavies when you can

candid crest
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With Uncanny? Riposte or Rampage

echo turtle
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Into horde year probs

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Into elites, only heavies

woeful patio
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For sure

echo turtle
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Rampage tho is better into the horde

woeful patio
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Precognition could be good with uncanny

echo turtle
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It doubles your damage

candid crest
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H1 into special is what I use for elites on Mk4

woeful patio
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Fair point

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I’m still getting good weapons with my new Psyker

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He’s only lvl 49

echo turtle
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But the blessing is bugged and there is no was FS is not aware of this

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I'm level 297 and still getting weapons don't worry

candid crest
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Yeah, know the feeling. After I am done with force swords and shovels on vet I will be back rolling traumas

echo turtle
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I'm about 50 force swords in and still yet to see blood thirsty

candid crest
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Hadron: Best I could do is Blazing Spirit IV

scarlet bear
echo turtle
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Got that like 5 times

candid crest
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Yeah, luckily I do have a couple of decent Deimos’ with Uncanny on blue, so just will have to upgrade and hope for the best

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Imho, I don’t think Deimos really needs anything else than Uncanny

unique sand
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i think deflector is always good on all swords

lunar hollow
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i got bloodthirsty a day before they fixed the bug

woeful patio
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I miss my perfect surge

lunar hollow
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😢

echo turtle
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With the state of the game, I think deflector is optimal

woeful patio
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T4 everything

spice veldt
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i had bloodthirsty for like two weeks before the fix

woeful patio
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She was beautiful

spice veldt
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5 seconds of 100% crits was amazing

lunar hollow
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but i get to say i had it

echo turtle
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Yeah, once upon a time 😦

spice veldt
candid crest
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Well, I do have deflector at iv so easy rebless if needed

woeful patio
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Do it

lunar hollow
woeful patio
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Deflector my beloved

echo turtle
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I like to stack block efficiency with it, you get a really wild amount of sustain that way

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It doesn't change the peril efficiency from KD, but it makes your stand go insanely far

woeful patio
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I’d buy all cosmetics

candid crest
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Block eff + stam regen + gunner res is what I run on psyker nowadays. 2T1H

echo turtle
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Same honestly

spice veldt
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isn't the v2 tree just like the old feat system

lunar hollow
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do not bring us back to 3x6 that was boring as hell

echo turtle
lunar hollow
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3x6 also had completely arbitrary mutually exclusive talents

woeful patio
# lunar hollow what da hell

Oh you took Brain Burst? Well you can’t get Mind in motion. Not for any balance reasons, just can’t have it fuck you

lunar hollow
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which, in darktide, often killed more niche utility talents

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yeah it was just as bad pre-patch 13 idk what ur talkin about

spice veldt
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that's the psyker tree in particular

lunar hollow
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mind in motion was a never-pick before

spice veldt
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not because of the tree system that we have

lunar hollow
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and the other 3 classes have way less weirdly restrictive trees

woeful patio
lunar hollow
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i dont like the psyker tree in particular

woeful patio
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Not saying V2 is exactly what I want 1p1 but something akin to that

echo turtle
unborn flicker
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How it feels to chew 5 gum

woeful patio
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Where making one choice doesn’t lock me out of another because it doesn’t touch

spice veldt
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i don't see the need to regress

candid crest
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Same with scavenger aura

lunar hollow
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the vet tree doesn't feel that bad to me because none of my builds really need to jump between the branches that much, it does need the node count cut down but i like the psyker tree the least

unborn flicker
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Pysker tree as crazy as most pyskers

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We like pineapple on our pizza

candid crest
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+anchovies

lunar hollow
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like being unable to take kinetic presence and scrier's gaze is uh

lunar hollow
unborn flicker
lunar hollow
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vet no have that problem

woeful patio
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Beta Tree had basically no options and there was a single effective path

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Now we have actual options

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Viable ones

lunar hollow
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wot

unborn flicker
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But I’m greedy

lunar hollow
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it used the same talent system as vt2 the fuck are u talkin about lmao

woeful patio
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It’s an improvement for sure

unborn flicker
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I want more

static needle
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Is the 373 DS actually better at anything compared to the other one? I have 2 modifications available on the 373 one

woeful patio
spice veldt
lunar hollow
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that is pretty much how the 3x6 thing works out. some options in each tier are almost always standout better than others

bleak tulip
spice veldt
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I don't see why you want to restrict yourself to the 3x6 of a single subclass

lunar hollow
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the talent trees provide way more stuff to mess around with

woeful patio
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Holy shit bro I’m not saying I want a x3 grid

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I just want the talents to be disconnected

lunar hollow
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no thanks

woeful patio
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I want mind in motion with BB

spice veldt
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no

woeful patio
#

I want crit with surge

lunar hollow
#

that gets rid of a balancing mechanism

spice veldt
#

i'm fine with the psyker tree being different this way

lunar hollow
#

because talents are in part balanced around availability and point cost

woeful patio
#

What balancing mechanism

candid crest
#

And I want Assail removed/reworked KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
woeful patio
#

I’d argue the cooldown

spice veldt
#

both

#

people need to learn to swap their weapons with assail

lunar hollow
#

the cooldown was killed (kinda)

static needle
#

Should I build this for boss damage or is scrier's + laspistol always better for bosses?

lunar hollow
#

now it needs to have 5 charges max

woeful patio
#

Assail builds terrible habits for new players

#

And they never wean off of it

spice veldt
#

should never have been spammable

woeful patio
#

I agree

#

Should have been an all or nothing

candid crest
#

I maybe a degenerate but I like Empowered BB as my blitz

woeful patio
#

Throw them all at the same time

spice veldt
#

to encourage players to swap weapons, I'd nerf its base cooldown hard and add in a mechanic that regenerates it for doing something, and I'd rework EP as well

spice veldt
woeful patio
#

I use EP BB bro

spice veldt
#

it should be a quickswap weapon

digital narwhal
spice veldt
#

something that you weave in over time during combat

#

it shouldn't be a "use it once and forget about it until 10 seconds later"

woeful patio
lunar hollow
#

i can't be fucked to take it basically ever because it doesn't change the game in an interesting way

#

i love DD

digital narwhal
woeful patio
digital narwhal
spice veldt
#

yeah I pretty much just run DD all the time

woeful patio
#

DD?

lunar hollow
#

disrupt destiny

bleak tulip
#

bottom right

woeful patio
#

Ah

#

DD rarely works for me

#

Just breaks

#

Not in the unbalanced way, it ceases to function

lunar hollow
#

the right side of the psyker tree is the only part i like

woeful patio
#

This explains so much

woeful patio
#

He’s right tho

lunar hollow
#

warp charges having both the most upgrades and the shittiest prerequisite talents

#

vindicates my pre-patch 13 hatred of them

woeful patio
#

I remember reviving an assail user, we’re actively being charged by a Nurgle Ogryn, and the first thing he does upon getting up is whip out assail

lunar hollow
#

i was ahead of my time

digital narwhal
candid crest
#

I mostly run DS4 + Surge so EP BB covers the need for long distance gunner removal for me

lunar hollow
#

i played a couple games of bugged surge in p14 and even that felt fuckin lame to me

candid crest
#

I would prefer Trauma with Blazing but Melk only brought it today, so I need to roll some good shit to put it on. And still need Rending IV

spice veldt
plucky flax
unborn flicker
#

Assail is warhammer needler

woeful patio
#

There’s a mod that automatically makes you leave a lobby if it reads certain criteria

#

Like assail users or cross players

bleak tulip
#

still want assail to work more like zealot knife and just come out when you press the button

woeful patio
#

Also yes

#

100%

static needle
#

Is this worth getting for riposte?

candid crest
static needle
#

4400 milk bucks

candid crest
static needle
#

1550 milk bucks for it

static needle
#

but like what are the best blessings for deimos

candid crest
#

Uncanny is BiS and deflector as 2nd probably

static needle
candid crest
#

Best in Slot

sudden trellis
#

why the FUCK is the gun psyker so strong.

proven stirrup
#

Hey are there any good shredder autopistol gun builds out there? I don't know if this is any good but it look like it could be

#

Just got this after a mission

unborn flicker
proven stirrup
#

It is if you play it properly

unborn flicker
#

I think people just forget how good guns are in general

#

You don’t even need to build for it

opal pebble
#

I don’t want guns@I wanna use wizard powers

sudden trellis
#

nah, dawg, this autogun hit like a perc 30

#

absolutely deranged damage

proven stirrup
#

Autoguns feel so good now

#

The Columnus is nutty

spice veldt
#

the shame about the shredder autopistol is that it's basically a worst columnus currently, besides the stagger

woeful patio
proven stirrup
#

Yeah, that's what I hear

woeful patio
#

Using an ability, connecting via console, etc.

spice veldt
#

crits/weakspots won't benefit you, so any talent selection will prob go with the autopistol since the right side won't be benefitting you much

sudden trellis
#

gotta take a long shower after how filthy that last round was

#

made the vets change classes.

woeful patio
#

Good

#

Now do the Zealots

#

Ogryns are alright, they can stay

idle bay
#

Siblings, can this MK IV be saved or it's a total brick ?

candid crest
#

Trauma staff - is Unarmored a desired perk or keep looking for flak + maniac?

idle bay
#

And this one?

woeful patio
#

I’d go for crit rather than flak imo

idle bay
#

Shred with Rampage... can make sense, right?

candid crest
candid crest
woeful patio
#

I wouldn’t use Unarmored as a perk

#

Fuck Maniacs

#

Hate them

idle bay
#

I'll probably gamble for few more MK IV's...

woeful patio
#

Why use devil claw when Illisi exists

candid crest
#

Hmm, yeah, tough luck on my side to go with crit perk and nexus +blazing.

woeful patio
#

Explain so that I may understand sibling

candid crest
#

My guess would be for the special parry

woeful patio
#

Why parry when you can dodge

#

Know what, I haven’t used devils claw since beta

#

Lemme try it for a bit

candid crest
#

Quite a nice amount of dmg on ragers and crushers. But for the latter you gamble on actually partying the overhead in 0.3s window…

idle bay
#

At some poimt it will get stale to use DS, or Illsi or Deimos

candid crest
#

Obscurus still exists lul

woeful patio
#

May as well not

#

Sad to say

candid crest
#

I played with it one game. I felt miserable

tough onyx
mighty olive
#

mrr so i saw we got ta small update but it wasn't for surge, i guess we stuck with partially wet noodle? >_<

idle bay
#

And parry-killing DH is kind of end goal just to feel good about it 🙂 and then never use it again

woeful patio
#

Maybe in arbitrary second part of update next month

mighty olive
#

ty for the reply ❤️

quasi junco
prime elk
olive ember
#

My face when surge “finally get fixed”TM and it’s still only mediocre KEKW_ogryn

left hare
#

I'm addicted to voidstrike

#

The Chonk headshot

#

Mmmm

olive ember
late yew
#

Coherency radius is amazing on everyone

#

in case of psyker, you may really want it for warp battery replenishment

#

also for CDR on elite kills

olive ember
#

Eh I don’t think coherency is that amazing

#

Tbh I don’t feel it with or without

#

It’s also only your coherency radius that increases

trail mulch
#

Hey, is there anywhere written what powering up the force sword actually does?

olive ember
#

Which one are you using

#

For obscures and deimos it makes it so a funny single target attack that does extra damage

#

For illisi it’s increased damage and cleave

trail mulch
#

yeah i know what it does in general, but what i am missing are values+

#

increased damage. By how much?

#

the bloody game doesn't tell me what the weapon skill does.

olive ember
#

Can’t give you exact values but unless something changed post rework, deimos you rly shouldn’t be using the special at all

trail mulch
#

not even in the breakdown section

olive ember
#

Illisi as much as possible

#

Obscures is kinda a meme as a weapon in general

lethal folio
#

It functions just like the chainsaws

woeful patio
#

Probably around 2 heavy attacks

#

Go into the meat grinder and see, very powerful

olive ember
#

Did they buff deimos special?

lethal folio
#

somewhat

#

Better armour mods vs non flak

woeful patio
#

Also Depy’s opinion is to be taken with copious amounts of salt as he is a gun user and his ilk aren’t to be trusted

spice veldt
#

deimos h2

queen fog
spice veldt
#

deimos special heavy

queen fog
#

Idc if I get grabbed midway thumbsup_ogryn

woeful patio
#

Now post Illisi

olive ember
#

I prefer trauma/purge when the fuck did I become a gun user

spice veldt
#

better adms against unyielding it seems

olive ember
#

What fucking slander is this

trail mulch
#

bloody fucking thank you @spice veldt

left hare
#

Btw whats the better monstro dmg weapon deimos or voidstrike

spice veldt
#

illisi is the same as patch 12 as far as I can tell

#

75% against cara and 175% against unyielding for illisi's special

bleak tulip
#

derpy getting slandered

woeful patio
#

Probably Deimos tbh

spice veldt
#

100% against everything else

lethal folio
#

sword

woeful patio
#

Those weak point hits are not to be taken lightly

left hare
#

H2 for boss dmg as well?

#

Aite

woeful patio
#

YES

#

It fucks hard

left hare
#

Im a proficient monster kiter so im fine with that

woeful patio
#

I wanna say it’s on par or slightly less than dueling sword for highest dmg heavy in the game

#

And when you use special with it

#

👌

#

Chefs Kiss

lethal folio
#

It's stronger than dueling sword

left hare
#

Wait i need to special?

woeful patio
#

Good

lethal folio
#

but DS IV can loop stabs

woeful patio
#

Special + Heavy Stab

#

For max damage

left hare
#

Oh

spice veldt
#

mk4 duellie heavies

left hare
#

I didnt realize i could do that

#

Is it a guaranteed kill on cara or something

woeful patio
#

Pretty damn close

#

Depends on blessings and perks

left hare
#

Uncanny and slaughterer

woeful patio
#

It’s possible

left hare
#

Maniac unyield

woeful patio
#

Monkey Astronaught posted a clip earlier of OHK Ragers and Crusher I think

left hare
#

Cool i have not been doing that one

#

So just whiff the warp l1 into warp h2?

woeful patio
#

Yuh

#

Looking up is safe for whiffing

spice veldt
#

deimos special h1 and h2 both do the same damage

woeful patio
#

And H2 gives a bit of lunge for getting distance

spice veldt
#

the only difference is the attack hitbox

crude cape
left hare
spice veldt
#

mhm

woeful patio
#

Easier to hit weak point with the stab I find

left hare
#

I can just warp h1 monstro weakspot

lunar hollow
#

ds4 + laspistol + assail

crude cape
#

i havent rolled a laspistol yet

#

might be why

candid dawn
#

anyone have some screenshots of a good assail venting shreik build?

woeful patio
#

Assail users should have their own channel tbh

#

Hate to see it

left hare
#

Im working on that laspistol for psyker so i can try dd monstro dps

candid dawn
#

i mean brain rupture just sucks

crude cape
lethal folio
#

Do surge trauma for the best of both.

left hare
#

The guide says laspistol dd will shred the monstro

#

And im always down for boss disappearing dps

crude cape
# candid dawn i mean brain rupture just sucks

I sort of disagree. With EP and the right build, it casts faster than ever and kills things it never did (dogs, flamers) in 1 hit reliably pre patch 13.
I think Smite and Assail just are so fun/visually impactful BB FEELS bad in comparison.

but I kind of dont think it IS bad. With a staff focused build, and using BB to make up for the range on trauma/purg it doesn't feel awful to me

lunar hollow
spice veldt
#

i hate clicking and the fullauto mod tends to overshoot

crude cape
#

i need to build a laspistol

whole oxide
#

did they nerf dodge regen or something? i'm hitting dodge cap non-stop tonight

spice veldt
#

so i'm on the columnus grindset

crude cape
#

i have NEVER used one lol

#

1k+ hours never used the laspistol

lunar hollow
#

they buffed it even though it was already good

#

i only really touched it after p13

candid dawn
ebon nymph
#

Can i use brain rupture to do Brain Burst penances?

south talon
#

does someone has some tips on the the battery penance

#

cuz i think

#

i will hit my mental breaking point soon

left hare
#

Oh wait do i need to spam click the las pistol?

#

Thats so bad

crude cape
#

idk if i would argue its meta

#

but BB, technically, is stronger than its ever been

candid dawn
crude cape
#

comparing it to the other new blitz's is what makes it feel bad

left hare
#

Smite is so damn good

#

From a situation critical to situation normal

merry night
woeful patio
#

Full-Auto

#

That’s the name

left hare
#

Poggers

left hare
#

Is columnus decent for monstro dmg

crude cape
# candid dawn what would to say IS meta for like tier 5 missions?

i think a lot of things are good right now.

top 3 builds, in my opinion (im not the bestest, to be fair) and this is in no particular order:

  1. trauma/assail/bubble psyker with either left or middle keystone or venting shriek instead of bubble
  2. smite/staff CC based psyker with middle keystone
  3. Gunker with skriers and DD
left hare
#

Smite bubble is lame but i have never lost

crude cape
#

those are what feel most consistant to me, rn

candid dawn
#

do you have a link to a good smite bubble build?

vapid lichen
#

trauma without fire shriek?

lyric burrow
#

scriers and DD gunker feels super good to me

vapid lichen
#

i cannot live without fire shriek that thing is too good

left hare
#

If u go to the darktide builds website the first build u see is auric smite bubble

lyric burrow
#

fire trauma is also very good

left hare
#

Just copy that one

#

Weapons and stuff u can just change cos just those 2 actives are gonna change ur teams life

#

Does mkiv h1 do a hard knockdown on weakspot?

#

Deimos h2 does it which was a big surprise to me

vapid lichen
#

iirc neither deimos nor ds4 have hard knockdown on h1

azure bridge
#

Shriek and bb with kinetic resonance is really nice

candid dawn
#

are mods legal, I see some people using them in videos

vapid lichen
#

yeah

queen fog
#

Yea

left hare
#

Yea

queen fog
half iron
#

no. mods are heresy or something quirky that zealots would say. trust my words no one elses

candid dawn
#

no kidding? will check out

hidden crystal
left hare
#

Deimos h2 on weakspot will knockdown ragers

halcyon creek
vapid lichen
#

there's a weapon customization mod in the modding discord that's sick as fuck

left hare
#

They added acog to kantreal

vapid lichen
#

i use it to put sights on my guns because fuck them irons

left hare
#

And ironsight to revolver

queen fog
lyric burrow
#

in the head

olive ember
lyric burrow
#

not monstrosities

vapid lichen
#

it knocks down crushers too

olive ember
#

Said it knocked everything

#

I just wasted all my plasteel

left hare
#

Btw after warp l1 can i chain into h2

olive ember
#

SMH

lyric burrow
left hare
#

Is that the easy way to get uncanny stacks

left hare
#

Ogryns are so chill

half iron
lyric burrow
left hare
#

U just bonk dont die and do crazy dmg

olive ember
left hare
vapid lichen
olive ember
#

But so are the rp’ers and chill people

lyric burrow
#

honestly zealots are usually the toxic ones for me

#

i havent seen many though

lyric burrow
left hare
#

Ok

lyric burrow
#

the warp attack is a big commitment yeah

inland crescent
#

any blessings or perks you guys would recommend?

half iron
vapid lichen
#

it was PREMIUM content

left hare
#

Im in asia and its usually super quiet

stable silo
#

@inland crescent depends on what type of trauma ur running nexus blaze vs.nexus flurry

lyric burrow
#

since you already got rending

left hare
#

Playing as a psyker got me appreciating ogryn

inland crescent
#

sounds truly holy

inland crescent
left hare
#

Flurry is spam

#

U charge faster

inland crescent
#

nandate

vapid lichen
lyric burrow
half iron
opaque cliff
#

sounds like you just love ogryn

left hare
#

Thats all of them no

half iron
opaque cliff
#

I heard Ogryns have the best Christmas parties

left hare
#

Shouty vets are great

opaque cliff
#

with eggnon and whiskey

lyric burrow
#

so like this minus infested

left hare
#

Revolver vets who actually aim are great

#

Every other vet i sleep

half iron
#

Revolver vets who actually aim are great

opaque cliff
#

~~Revolver ~~~~vets ~~People who actually aim are great

left hare
#

Me when sniper be sniping for more than 1 shot be like

#

Wheres the damn vet

half iron
#

my random burst of mouse1’s with the staff finally getting that far away special before the veteranwhensecks

inland crescent
#

blessing go up to lvl 4 right?

lyric burrow
#

depends

#

some dont

left hare
#

Tbf voidstrike fully charged has some decent hit potential

lyric burrow
#

like blazing spirit

#

or focused chanelling

inland crescent
#

does flurry go to lvl 4?

lyric burrow
#

yes

half iron
#

i’m playing with staffs other than voidstrike atm

stable silo
#

I feel personally attacked i just run the mk5 colum and hold the trigger down while looking at things

inland crescent
#

man i only got a 3

left hare
#

Flurry goes to 4

#

U can upgrade it later

#

After u replace

half iron
crude cape
left hare
#

When u replace ur blessing u can change it

inland crescent
#

man i have been only grinding with mechanics

left hare
#

To whatever u want

inland crescent
#

those blessings i completely forgot til now

#

i only change perks here and there

left hare
#

U get 2 fixes

inland crescent
#

but as i know, you can only change perks twice

left hare
#

So try to roll something decent

inland crescent
#

man sucks

left hare
#

Like for me i got uncanny 4

#

So my blessing slot i can slap whatever

inland crescent
#

i really like my staff, i am scared to put ze lvl 3 mcflurry on it

left hare
#

Just put lvl 3 then when u get 4 u replace that slot

#

U can change it after

inland crescent
#

but then i cant change anything anymore :(((

#

so sad i am

left hare
#

Unlucky#

#

Back to reroll

inland crescent
#

the emperor has forsaken me

static needle
#

Good sword?

lyric burrow
#

good stats blessings and perks are a bit funky

static needle
#

well

#

what do i change

lyric burrow
#

carapace isnt awful if you can get uncanny on there

static needle
#

okay

#

is deflector a BiS?

lyric burrow
#

id personally swap deflector to uncanny so you can change a perk

left hare
lyric burrow
#

deflector is good yeah

left hare
#

Deflector is good if u want

#

Its like a perk that is personal preference

#

I dont need it

lyric burrow
#

its not BIS

#

i would say

#

but if you struggle with gunners you can take it

static needle
#

can deimos w riposte be good to run with scrier's gaze gunpsyker?

lyric burrow
#

riposte isnt awful

static needle
#

or is duelling sword just better at that point?

lyric burrow
#

DS would be better

left hare
#

If its for crit stacking i dont think its terrible

static needle
#

is uncanny the best blessing for deimos?

olive ember
#

It’s funny because slaughterer no longer super buffs force swords

left hare
#

Uncanny is bis

olive ember
#

So deflector is kinda eh now since you kinda need both blessings to go towards damage

#

SMH deflector should just be built in by default

#

Like the good ole days

static needle
#

how about executor?

lyric burrow
#

no

left hare
#

Nope

lyric burrow
#

it drops on non weakspot hit

inland crescent
#

so basically

lyric burrow
#

which is most of the swings of deimos if you are trying to horde clear with scirers

inland crescent
#

i just buy a lotta staffs, upgrade them to blue and hope to get a flurry lvl4?

lyric burrow
#

unstable is probably fine still

lyric burrow
#

if you can ramp up peril with low warp res

dim parrot
#

but like slaughterer/uncanny combi still good on illisi or nah?

inland crescent
lyric burrow
#

idk about on illisi

left hare
#

Illisi is slaughterer uncanny yep

olive ember
lyric burrow
#

its probably fine though

dim parrot
lyric burrow
#

i still run slaught unstable on illisi tho

radiant sleet
#

Based and assailpilled

left hare
#

Unstable is fine on both as well

dim parrot
#

is unstable better then slaughterer?

left hare
#

Depends on if u like peril management

dim parrot
#

eh idk I like damage

lyric burrow
#

slaught is very consistent damage

left hare
#

Realistically slaughterer is just on all the time

#

While unstable is u maintaing ur peril throughout

#

U get some nutty dmg if u maintain but if u whip out ur stave and need to kill shit then woops death

olive ember
#

I mean unstable is just stay at 80 peril +

#

Which you kinda should be depending on build

lyric burrow
#

illisi usually is

#

cause of the special

olive ember
#

If you run warp nexus you should be trying to stay at 80 peril +

#

So literally every staff has a build for that

left hare
#

Warp nexus void strike

olive ember
#

Warp nexus purge

#

Warp nexus surge

#

Warp nexus trauma

left hare
#

Crit goes hard

olive ember
#

Literally every staff got a build with warp nexus

inland crescent
#

i upgraded 4 staffs to blue and i only get lvl3 flurry

olive ember
#

Trauma and voidstrike both use crit to proc stuff, either surge or blazing spirit

dim parrot
#

even my grandma got a build like that og

olive ember
#

But yeah it’s a oof

#

It took me like

#

12 staves to get flurry for my voidstrike

#

Was not happy

#

Well I became happy once class rework showed up and surge went from meme to meta

#

Cuz I got surge twice before I got warp flurry 4

dim parrot
#

is uncanny 4 on illisi even possible btw?

left hare
#

Yea?

inland crescent
dim parrot
#

cool, cause I still haven't obtained it after idk how many re rolls KEKW_ogryn

left hare
#

Rmbr to check contract shop

#

Sometimes one will pop up

crude cape
#

psyker should have a pinned blessing/perk for all weapons thing like zealot chat does

#

i think all the classes should

#

but im too lazy to put it together lol

left hare
#

Isnt it in the. Psyker guide

fallen zodiac
left hare
#

U know that big psyker bible

fallen zodiac
#

🙏

lyric burrow
#

i could probably make a table if its not in that guide

halcyon creek
#

The second most comprehensive fan guide in Darktide

crude cape
#

psyker guide is too much and too opinionated imo

#

its good but, its from a certain individuals perspective and i dont think is a good quick 'rule of thumb' reference

#

quick reference, pinned is what im looking for

#

like this

woeful patio
#

@scarlet bear

crude cape
#

is what i think every channel should have

#

maybe ill work on one

#

shouldn't be too hard

#

im just not a pro on every weapon

olive ember
#

Everyone knows that you can only play Damnation once you are a master of every weapon in the game

olive ember
crude cape
crude cape
crude cape
#

but honestly its headtaker + slaught. shoutout to bloodthirsty or thrust if you want big dmg on heavies or special activation

lyric burrow
#

p sure its headtaker and slaught but it does not matter