psyker-class

[twilit knoll]

I am willing to make this trade if both our classes can have both these weapons, yes

(or at least one variant of them)

[zinc phoenix]

I cannot consent as I cannot implement

[twilit knoll]

neither can I, but if I lie hard enough I could in theory get a job at Fatshark and implement the change and then quit and wait for it to roll out

[bold maple]

heavy sword is fun til 9 crusher spawns

[zinc phoenix]

Fire nade and whip out the revolver

[twilit knoll]

then it's even funner, time to dodge weave and hit heavy 1 and special for thirty seconds

GO! IPPO!

https://tenor.com/view/hajime-no-ippo-e-gif-17391347276824385074

[zinc phoenix]

I find two headshots from ole reliable and crusher is down

Then just gotta run for five minutes to reload

[twilit knoll]

you could also pull out revolver or some other gun, yeah

[quaint burrow]

why is 'Complete [X amount] missions without blowing yourself up' not part of the Psyker's penances? 🙈

not that I'd ever be able to achieve those, but.. just an idea 😆

[feral verge]

you'll learn someday

takes time

i have 1.5k hours and i still blow up every once and awhile

[lunar hollow]

ahem

[zinc phoenix]

I think it’s inevitable. I was playing sienna on release vt1 and I still blow up 😂

[feral verge]

i was trying a foreign build

no argument

[maiden wolf]

Does anyone know if rolling a curio from purple to orange has a higher chance of giving you a T4 perk?

[half iron]

last time i blew up was surging one time too much

[zinc phoenix]

I got frisky with trauma after not playing it for a while

And was using shield instead of shriek

[ornate hamlet]

ngl

Part of why I started gun psyker was because of the game eating my inputs and making me do that extra staff LMB when trying to swap to melee and attack

Eventually I was like "okay, go fuck yourself with a pine tree, I'm getting a gun because at least that one blows up forward"

[maiden wolf]

Have you tried the Infantry Lasgun MGIV? Its pretty nutty with gunker.

[ornate hamlet]

I need to make one

Last I played it was several patches ago and it left me severely scarred

[potent echo]

🤔

[lunar hollow]

ur not allowed to play support psyker

[ornate hamlet]

Like, it was so shit

[lunar hollow]

the team collectively shits the bed

every time

[potent echo]

yes or yesn't

[maiden wolf]

I got super luck and rolled a perfect one. I have infernus on it rn, but I really want deadly accurate instead.

[lunar hollow]

those fkin ogryns DISAPPEARED

[ornate hamlet]

But then the shredder now sucks, so anything can happen

I remember it 1) needing the full auto mod and 2) kicking like a mule at max fire rate to no real damage gain over the MG12

[maiden wolf]

I'd really reccomend the full auto mod

[maiden wolf]

They have the exact same DPS AFAIK

[ornate hamlet]

I'm glad it changed a bit

[maiden wolf]

The green and blue one have the same dps at least

IIRC the brown one has slightly lower DPS.

[frozen osprey]

i wish i recorded my gameplay just has the most intense clutch of my life

[maiden wolf]

What really changed is Psyker's crit related feats

[frozen osprey]

we died after a bit but i saved the run twice

:3

i also finally got evasive been trying to get that for ages

[maiden wolf]

With ranged dodge on critical hit you can play like a pre-patch veteran.

Honestly, Scrier's gaze would be better if it just highlighted enemies.

90% of its usefulness is just highlighting enemies through walls.

[spice veldt]

maybe like banshee's ability from Warframe to give an additional random spot that counts as a weakspot

a general highlight enemies through walls would prob be more thematic of the name though

[maiden wolf]

I mean disrupt destiny

But yeah, being aple to sense enemies through walls is literally a Psyker thing.

[spice veldt]

I like it as a dive this one particular enemy, though the economy is reliant on not having teammates that can kill things and having patrol spawns

[maiden wolf]

yeah, I feel like the mechanics need tweaking a bit.

[spice veldt]

I'm a fan of the current system, so I'd make the stacks be cut in half every time the timer decays

instead of just setting it to 0 each time

and reducing the 30 stack node to 25 or whatever to balance this change out if need be

[maiden wolf]

I think it would be way more popular if it also highlighted enemies for your teammates, and gave you the stack no matter who killed them.

[lunar hollow]

tbh i dont really have a problem keeping stacks up

unless im fuckin off to grab plasteel

cuz itll highlight random bruisers/shooters all the time and thats just easy

[spice veldt]

I like the more personal aspect of having to get the kills yourself

[lyric burrow]

yeah i can just poke them

esp since im flying around with it anyway

[spice veldt]

just to keep the economy stuff and as an incentive

I don't like "...on ally kills" stuff

[lunar hollow]

i hate the "when your teammate does this u get the reward" stuff

like elite kill cdr

should not be happenin when an ally kills smth

[long wharf]

It'd be a lot less useful if it only proc'd on your kills

[lunar hollow]

yeah

[long wharf]

Competing for kills leads to players using their mechanics less

[lunar hollow]

its not like an active thing, ur killin stuff either way

ult cooldown reduction is way too prevalent in this game

[spice veldt]

rewarding individual players is nice nevertheless

[lunar hollow]

it heavily limits what you can do with ult cooldowns as a balancing tool

and DD would be so fuckin easy to stack if allies could get the stacks for you

[spice veldt]

Psyker aura having to be shot in the knees from 15% to 5%

[lunar hollow]

it'd literally just remove the point of it

because warp charges already has the upgrade for 4% chance on any kill from allies

[potent echo]

what if you only get stacks when in CoHeRenCY

[spice veldt]

DD would seem a lot better if we had more force staffs that could take better advantage of the buff it gives

[lunar hollow]

my favorite staff is the laspistol

[spice veldt]

sooo true!!!!

[lunar hollow]

finally, the +aura radius talent does something besides waste a point

[lyric burrow]

i dont hate the CDR in this game but its probably a little strong

however FS seems to have wanted to make CDR strong

[long wharf]

The aura radius node needs to do more, like double the aura effect as well

[lyric burrow]

but yeah at least 2 of my classes are built around being able to spam F

[spice veldt]

coherency benefits being whatever also plays into that

[lunar hollow]

the problem with aura radius is coherency gets turned off in any intensity spike

coherency could do with some changes but at the same time we're not exactly hurting for player power rn

[lyric burrow]

yeah i dont think its really needs to be better unless other stuff gets changed

like being together with the current player power is inherently strong

[olive ember]

Fucking lies

[lunar hollow]

if u have 2 players who know what theyre doing u clear hishocks with a super high WR

[olive ember]

If we didn’t need more player power than explain why the fuck the randoms are wiping two rooms in

[lyric burrow]

they are bad

[lunar hollow]

because pub players are bad

[spice veldt]

don't be a random

[lunar hollow]

and if ur constantly losing ur games

there is 1 common factor

[lyric burrow]

or something didnt make the proper sound cue and they died

[lunar hollow]

and it aint the randos

[spice veldt]

be the one good player in your team

[lunar hollow]

u can carry hi5-

consistently

because the game doesnt throw enough disablers to meme you

[lyric burrow]

which is probably good

[olive ember]

I’m fine until I have to deal with boss with hounds and horde and I look over and my 3 rando teammates just went down to a few gunners

Fun time

[lyric burrow]

i didnt mind disablers still trappers got fucked

[lunar hollow]

the answer is just be better at preventing death spirals

u have to know when someone is showing signs of buckling under the pressure of a single gunner catching them w/o toughness

because this happens to anyone

[untold widget]

My favorite is when the trapper charges his net, I dodge, he cancels the charge, pivots and then nets me

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc phoenix]

True truths, I got more value out of that than anything

[olive ember]

Just annoying when I should be the one getting relieved

[untold widget]

I'm also a big fan of getting netted through a pillar

[olive ember]

Cuz you know specials + horde + boss

[lyric burrow]

i wouldnt trust randos to have target prio

[olive ember]

And the chuckles die to random gunners they can just avoid by walking behind cover

[lunar hollow]

u just play close to ur teammates

so that if these things happen

you are there to stop it

[lyric burrow]

cause there target prio is whatever is on them since they cant deal with it well

[spice veldt]

the hitbox for the net sure is lenient when it passes by obstacles but not so much as it grazes you

[lunar hollow]

because a handful of gunners is something 1 guy can kill

[lyric burrow]

some people also just bring wack loadouts

[lunar hollow]

in pubs ur just trying to find whoever is the most competent and gluing yourself to them

[lyric burrow]

that cant deal with random common scenarios

[lunar hollow]

me fucking

sliding around a corner

but the net touches my hair

and i am suddenly encased in wires

[lyric burrow]

also the reason you cant dodge them point blank i think

the nets are large

[lunar hollow]

trappers should never have stagger res

its so stupid

[lyric burrow]

idk if its that or they track too hard

[lunar hollow]

if i push this motherfucker

[spice veldt]

I've had multiple instances where I'm around a corner and the net seems like it'll be blocked by the corner or that "oh hey I'm behind the corner surely I'll be safe 🙂 "

[lunar hollow]

it should STOp the netting

[lunar hollow]

always dodge

[olive ember]

I should play auric more but I feel myself tilt from like 2 games if auric

[lunar hollow]

legit just like

[olive ember]

So I just play Damnation now kekw

[lunar hollow]

if theres a pillar in between

[lyric burrow]

i agree although the fact that they will just sit there spamming firing the net even if you stagger them is also a problem

[untold widget]

the nets are also no-clip on anything except players

[lunar hollow]

you NEVER assume the pillar works

because it does until it causes you to lose a match and then

[spice veldt]

infrastructure on tertium sucks

[lunar hollow]

[olive ember]

I dodge based in sound queue tbh

As in even if I don’t see the trapper or know where it is

I dodge if I hear the net

[lunar hollow]

my number 1 prio for trapper is putting it on its ass

[lyric burrow]

i do as well although sometimes its a 50/50

[lunar hollow]

because nothing else prevents stupid bullshit

[lyric burrow]

on which side its on

side of me or behind me

cause i cant always tell

[candid mesa]

I'm content

[lyric burrow]

esp since stuff like scriers actually deafens you

[olive ember]

also randoms have this really cool ability to fling me off bridges with barrels

It’s like uncanny

[spice veldt]

I've done some no-look dodges and gotten owned

[zinc phoenix]

Me getting netted thru a staircase like 😮

[olive ember]

Most of my deaths recently have been to barrels

[spice veldt]

I lost a cool clutch because I got cocky with a no-look trapper dodge

[lyric burrow]

anything thats a railing or fence will never stop a net

stairs too

[spice veldt]

fuckin did some nice kiting and everything and just got owned

[lyric burrow]

i pretty much only trust walls

[zinc phoenix]

Trust nothing but dodge

[lunar hollow]

i dont trust anything at this point

ive tilted so hard when you get rubberbanded out of a dodge

into an instakill

[spice veldt]

josho internet moment

[lunar hollow]

dude

[olive ember]

I mean I no look dodge more for safety just cuz when there’s specials all over the place with a horde

[lyric burrow]

tbf you play on high ping dont you

[lunar hollow]

i was fucking MELTING

steam out of my ears

when i got rubberbanded out of a sniper dodge

[olive ember]

It’s better to dodge imo than to stand there

[lunar hollow]

into a silent crusher overhead

[maiden wolf]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/disrupt-destiny-would-work-far-better-if-it-allowed-teammates-to-see-highlighted-enemies/88047 Made a topic about it on the forums.

[lunar hollow]

[clever cedar]

8 maulers not attacking in sync

[lyric burrow]

trappers also really like to come up on me the second ive used most of my dodges fighting something else which is like my bad but also annoying

[olive ember]

Are crushers supposed to be silent even

[lyric burrow]

because trappers tilt me for some reason

[lyric burrow]

no

[lunar hollow]

i think flat out trappers should NEVER be running within 5 meters of you

like why the FUCK are you getting in my face

to throw a net i can't dodge

[zinc phoenix]

In fairness they massively upped the speed of blue light spawn, made it spawn on stuff near you while in melee and allowed the blue light to switch super fast if the thing is alive but gets too far away (and “too far” is not far at all)

[spice veldt]

elite patrols suddenly becoming more quiet the moment they're aggrod

[lunar hollow]

because you're IN MY FACE

this isn't fun

[spice veldt]

like, elite patrols have these heavy footsteps when they're roaming around, and they'll no longer have this once they're aggrod

[lunar hollow]

elites need to like

fuckin scream

just make em go nuts

[maiden wolf]

yeah, I still don't like switching targets to prioritize the blue guys though

[lunar hollow]

lights out sucks when you get the 4-5 ragers who don't make any noise until their attack animations begin

[lyric burrow]

i think the thing that tilts me the hardest in this game 100% is when trappers spam firing the net 4 times and then randomly gets stagger immunity and nets me

[lunar hollow]

like OH OKAY YOU'RE IN MY ASS

COOL

[lyric burrow]

like i should just kill it

[lunar hollow]

THAT'S A THING NOW

[lyric burrow]

but sometimes im busy

[spice veldt]

owo

[zinc phoenix]

I straight up don’t and still get max stacks regularly just swangin my sword

Of course I also play gunker like I’m a zealot

[lunar hollow]

its a tie for me

between shit like that

and certain weapons having attacks you can't block cancel

[maiden wolf]

It does work far better in melee in my experience as well.

[lunar hollow]

like slab shield

so if ur doing a heavy at a doorway

and a burster that sounds 30meters away turns the corner

[ornate hamlet]

Trapper stagger is so fucking annoying

Like

[lunar hollow]

YOU CANNOT STOP THE ATTACK

YOU CANNOT SHOVE

[ornate hamlet]

Utterly rage-inducing

[lunar hollow]

you just blow it up

[clever cedar]

trying to hear these lines while dealing with the maulers, muties, and other baddies screaming and shooting in your ears: https://youtu.be/qewqs10yJ5w?t=233

[spice veldt]

trust no one, not even block cancels

trust in the qq swap

[ornate hamlet]

Actually I know exactly how the trapper stagger feels

[lyric burrow]

yeah i QQ swap ngl

[lunar hollow]

like 75% of gun bashes don't fkin push bursters in a safe direction

[spice veldt]

some attacks not being block-cancellable is so god damn annoying

[maiden wolf]

Had one spawn on the other side of a fence and blow up instantly. Like, I was just minding my own business and a random explosion goes off.

[lunar hollow]

and honestly my reflexes

[spice veldt]

not even intuitive

[lunar hollow]

are not lettin me qq swap

[lyric burrow]

or if i see a burster coming i think i think i might clip it ill flick my mouse down to swing at the floor and then push it

[lunar hollow]

and then push

[ornate hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z9JWsQ_kDE

This is trapper stagger

[lunar hollow]

in the time that this happens https://streamable.com/mj81bq

[lunar hollow]

if only sound worked

[lyric burrow]

yeah sound is really annoying

[zinc phoenix]

Sometimes I feel like my teammates are auditioning for the role of Skyrim npc with how little they react to specials

[ornate hamlet]

also I might be going crazy

[lyric burrow]

people are simply unaware

[zinc phoenix]

Like you can clearly hear a burster is coming and they’re all like “must have been the wind”

[ornate hamlet]

but I swear the game is eating my inputs more today

[lunar hollow]

i watched a level 22 psyker in hishock on 1 wound out of 3 (other 2 corrupted from downs) just ignore a burster

and i couldnt do anything except back away

and observe

[olive ember]

Was wondering if it was an audio bug or just no sounds but yeah it’s audio bug prob

[untold niche]

build (level 11 atm)
Ds4, voidstrike staff
mainly to kill elite / ragers
Do i need perfect timing?

[lyric burrow]

its nice

not needed imo

[untold niche]

okeh tenks
what you feel about the build in general

[lyric burrow]

seems fine although i personally like the last node of scriers

[spice veldt]

with ds4 and vstrike, you might opt for DD instead

especially for point efficiency

[lyric burrow]

yeah DD would work well

[spice veldt]

since warp siphon is fairly expensive to go down

[lyric burrow]

as well

[untold niche]

can i still one tap crushers with DD :o

[zinc phoenix]

Their audio system has to work out which sounds to prioritize and which to soften and I don’t think it was designed for the sheer quantity of shit being spawned these days so it starts failing in weird unexpected ways

[lyric burrow]

they also arent super needed for void i mostly just use them on blazing trauma

[lunar hollow]

its also like, hand-made for each map

[lyric burrow]

but they are fine anyway

[lunar hollow]

they have to set the values

[spice veldt]

mayhaps

[lunar hollow]

so you have certain spots on certain maps that just fucking DIE

[ornate hamlet]

I'mma say

[lunar hollow]

but others work mostly fine

[zinc phoenix]

Oh good god that is awful

[ornate hamlet]

EP assail is fucking cracked for ranged elite crowds

[lunar hollow]

yeah

[spice veldt]

DD gives +15% dmg and a respectable amount of crit and weakspot dmg

[lyric burrow]

thats an impressive amount of work

but seems unnecessary

[lunar hollow]

i dont know the specifics of it because crab says many words

[ornate hamlet]

But it doesn't give me joy in hunting Casper the fucking blue ghost

[lyric burrow]

although it did mostly work pre patch 13

[untold niche]

my ego doesn't let me play assail

[lunar hollow]

yeah it was fine

until they cranked the spawns up

[olive ember]

Yeye am aware just barely ever hear crusher lines in general besides like when they are aggroed

[zinc phoenix]

I feel that way about many software design choices I don’t know much about… usually I am wrong and there is a perfectly good and entirely insane reason 😂

[ornate hamlet]

I lost count of how many times I deleted my config file to increase performance since the last update

[untold niche]

sometimes when theres muties going about i don't hear bombers at all

[clever cedar]

it's certainly not like fighting Chaos Warriors in VT, you can pick that out a mile away

[zinc phoenix]

The brown note

[icy wyvern]

iirc once a chaos warrior aggros, there's a bass drop

[spice veldt]

10 bwomps for when 10 crushers aggro onto you

[zinc phoenix]

It’ll be fun when we get a chaos space marine baddie and the lore nerds lose their minds

[icy wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-quality-intergalactic-intergalactic-back-to-the-future-back-to-the-future-speaker-gif-26804314

[zinc phoenix]

I kinda think that’s what they’re gonna do with wolf

That or two Zola at the same time 😂

[harsh urchin]

Idk why everyone seems to think DD is trash

[untold niche]

i just realized, with warp it also reduces downtime on scrier

[harsh urchin]

Its pretty solid

Now

[spice veldt]

that's sane and logical thinking

unfortunately, warp charges do not reduce the CD of scrier's

[zinc phoenix]

Excuse me what the fuck

[icy wyvern]

im running warp charges trying to get warp batter but

[spice veldt]

unless you start scrier's at 100% peril

[zinc phoenix]

Why did I also not think of using warp charge to speed up SG 🤯

[half iron]

start scrier’s at 100% peril it would be epic

[untold niche]

fatshark momment?

[spice veldt]

fatshark moment

[untold niche]

:v

i think im going to test DD build once im level 30 and make the decision then :v

[zinc phoenix]

All is well then

[spice veldt]

would be funny if using scrier's at 100% peril just killed you

[untold niche]

seems kinda big though, you think fix soon?

[zinc phoenix]

I like it, it’s heckin fun in melee with a good dueling sword

[tawny pebble]

perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[spice veldt]

soon-ish, hopefully

[zinc phoenix]

You just go brrrrt through everything

[spice veldt]

scrier's gaze hasn't been touched on even though I do think it needs some tweaks, so hopefully that's because they're planning on releasing all of the intended changes and fixes for it in one go

[untold niche]

scrier has what bugs

[spice veldt]

I think the CD interaction with warp charges is the only one

but it needs a mild buff imo

[harsh urchin]

Once they make it just like exe

[half iron]

1000%+ finesse
1000%+ crit chance
1000%+ crit damage
1000%+ less veterans in your pubs

[harsh urchin]

I think itll be pretty sick

[untold niche]

how come

[spice veldt]

and being able to exit out of scrier's gaze at will

[spice veldt]

the bonus you get is relatively specific to certain weapons, and the peril cost increases at a rate that makes it impractical to use anything but non-force weapons

you have to go very much out of your way to get 30 stacks

[untold niche]

ye weird they dun have this. but i think with this you can do some toggling shenanigans because once enter +10% and +20%
though im sure they could change it to a ramp up over 5 seconds for that

[harsh urchin]

I would rather see it completely reworked

I dislike the current design

[potent echo]

+2% melee attack speed perstack

[untold niche]

wait really, even with inner tranq ( warp node, reduce peril generated)
Because i was hoping i shoot voidstrikes while in SG

[spice veldt]

you can prob do that with transfer peril and whatnot

[half iron]

scrier’s gaze 2.0 hosters all your weapons and makes you punch fast. if you have a stave you can only swing it.

[untold niche]

What's uh transfer peril

[spice veldt]

quell 10% peril on headshot blessing for vstrike

[untold niche]

I thought vstrike has like only two good blessings :v

[harsh urchin]

No lol

The old school flurry+transfer build is out of meta

But still quite good

[untold niche]

So for my build what blessings are suggested good sir

( I was reading athenumbumbumb and seems only like 2/3 good picks)

[harsh urchin]

I recommend either nexus surge for crit VS, or flurry transfer for noncrit VS

You can alao try something like surge flurry; itll feel good to play but i doubt itll be as effective as fully building into or out of crit

[olive ember]

Surge flurry is basically trying to abuse true aim procs

[untold niche]

And I don't have true aim ;-;

With nexus surge can I still use SG and shoot my staff
Cause arco said I need transfer peril blessing

[olive ember]

Ehh yes but I wouldn’t recommend it

It’s anti synergy because nexus you want to try and stay above 80 peril to maximize crit chance

But Scriers is generally all about trying to delay hitting 100 peril as long as possible imo

[untold niche]

Ye

So I go surge and the blessing arco suggested?

[olive ember]

You mainly use Scriers for stuff like guns, or if you are using like niche setups like a blazing spirit + rending shockwave trauma

If you go surge with transfer peril you could prob take Scriers for some effect

I’ve never tried it so idk

[untold niche]

Wait so scrier and voidstaff no work tgt? ;-;

I was told it's doable just that you have to quell

[harsh urchin]

Scrier kinda very mid lol

The other two are much better

[placid crypt]

It's just a dangerous build, make a mistake in the heat of the moment and scriers works against you

[thorn cedar]

Scriers only gives you 10% damage and 20% crit chance while its active. It's not much. Everything else it does is based on stacks.

[placid crypt]

Shriek and shield both provide much more defensive attributes, either via removing peril or just plain protection

[thorn cedar]

If you can't reliably hit 20 stacks with whatever you're using, other options are probably better.

[placid crypt]

And Psyker is already a glass cannon

[untold niche]

weakspot kill count as 1 stack
sop if you shoot into horde you should get stacks pretty fast no :v

[thorn cedar]

If you take that node yeah

[untold widget]

The only thing in this game I can't tank is downward overheads (which irritates me to no end)

[thorn cedar]

Otherwise no

Only Voidstrike does headshots.

[harsh urchin]

The problem is that now you're ulting for hordes

Which is like the least threatening thing in the game

Compared to shout which can be used to vent quickly, stagger a pox, stagger a crusher/rager; or shield which basically completely neutralizes gunners/bombers/snipers

[zinc phoenix]

20% crits is a lot

[spice veldt]

for finesse weapons

[olive ember]

I mean the 20% crit is worth if you can sustain it. I’ve run a blazing spirit + rending shockwave trauma and was basically solely relying on scrier crit

It works

[zinc phoenix]

Based dueling sword

[spice veldt]

death

being unable to exit at will is one of my biggest gripes with it

[zinc phoenix]

But to compensate you go super fast

It would be nice if second f ended it tho

I love getting the speed boost up and then zipping between teammates obliterating stuff

[harsh urchin]

I would like the finesse synergy reworked into more of a generic thing, and i would like the heat thing reworked into something that could work with both staves and guns

[zinc phoenix]

I like having a gunker line

[harsh urchin]

I dislike that the forced finesse synergy and heat shit means that only guns work for it

[zinc phoenix]

There are already two staff trees

[harsh urchin]

I mean

[zinc phoenix]

Leave gunker alone 😭

[harsh urchin]

I want it to be generic and work for everything

[cosmic sigil]

of my 3 gunker build... the scryier is the least used one, i prefer the versatily of shriek / shield

[harsh urchin]

Thats better design than "this only works for guns"

[olive ember]

I’m kinda fine with that but why does CD not tick while I’m in the ability

Fucking vets can have infinite exe stance

[harsh urchin]

Ye

They reverted the vet shit so fast

[zinc phoenix]

Yes but then you have to play vet 😂

[harsh urchin]

And sg is stuck with the shit

[zinc phoenix]

It balances out

[weak widget]

so enemies can't get more than 6 stacks of soulblaze from blazing spirit? you have to use different sources of soulblaze to stack over 6?

I feel like even with 10 stacks it's not enough to finish off horde enemies

[olive ember]

6 is enough to kill everything shooters and below

[weak widget]

when I could get more critical hits instead and instagib everything instead of playing some dots waiting game

[olive ember]

Pretty sure it kills bruisers too but I’d have to check

What staff first of all

[weak widget]

I kind of wish there was specific sfx for soulblaze deaths

trauma

[olive ember]

yeah blazing spirit is decent on trauma

there is no reason to run crit on trauma otherwise

[zinc phoenix]

🥓 get that sizzle SFX in for soulblaze deaths stat!

[olive ember]

unless they changed the crit modifier which to my knowledge they didn't touch at all, trauma crit does like 50 extra damage

[weak widget]

the other option is brittle and warp flurry?

[olive ember]

i mean there's three ways to build trauma rn, the third option i'm not sure how good

you can run warp flurry + rending shockwave/focused channeling

[unborn flicker]

trauma is still pain

[olive ember]

which is just much explosions, armor strip, etc.

the 2nd way to build it is to run warp nexus + blazing spirit

[unborn flicker]

I cant find a reason to use it over surge

[olive ember]

lmao

surge is trash

what?

anyways i digress

[weak widget]

50 flat?

[olive ember]

it goes from like 370 damage non crit to like 410 or 430 damage crit last I checked

so literally like 50 extra damage

[weak widget]

why would you ever get focused channeling

[olive ember]

uhhh @spice veldt is the one who likes it

but its basically stun resist

[zinc phoenix]

It really isn’t but go off

[olive ember]

so you cant get stunned out of blast, etc.

[olive ember]

its pretty bad now, inconsistent to even one shot man-sized enemies like gunners

[olive ember]

oh? did they change it?

[weak widget]

I don't know

[olive ember]

lemme get on and check screw it

[zinc phoenix]

Well it’s bugged rn it’s very annoying

[olive ember]

yes which is why its trash rn, I'd argue its mediocre even when its not bugged but

thats another discussion thats not worth getting into

until its fixed

again

[zinc phoenix]

For the 500th time

(But not really)

[compact bluff]

because stuns are a remarkably bad design decision and focused channeling is the only way for a psyker to avoid stuns from hits. aside from you know... avoiding the hit
its not an optimal blessing but its very nice qol at least

[unborn flicker]

I like it simply because of the cc it gives

[weak widget]

can trauma even hit weakspot?

[olive ember]

nope

[unborn flicker]

Its faster than the other staffs too

[olive ember]

well

its lmb can

[zinc phoenix]

Fire trauma so good

[strong gulch]

LMB can 🙃

[weak widget]

yeah but with right click no

[zinc phoenix]

Get some fire shriek in there oh man 🔥

[strong gulch]

correct

[olive ember]

Anyways besides warp flurry + rending shock/focused channeling, blazing spirit + warp nexus

[waxen abyss]

Trauma with surge blessing+nexus

[weak widget]

I wish they would do a pass over all the useless shit, surge blessing on trauma being a huge bait

[olive ember]

the 3rd way to run trauma is blazing spirit + rending shockwave

the idea is that you spread fire and then with armor strip that fire can actually hurt crushers n shit

but you have to supplement this staff with scriers gaze

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta shoot two tiny blue balls at the same time now now now

[olive ember]

you are basically running full right side tree for like 15% crit and then slap on scriers for another 20%

I've ran it once, it works, but honestly I couldn't tell how good it was

[waxen abyss]

Honesty a trauma surge blessing build isn’t too bad. You delete anything smaller than Ogryn for no ammo relatively fast

[weak widget]

dot is affected by armor?

[waxen abyss]

It’s inferior to meta trauma but hey it’s funny

[zinc phoenix]

But you could also just light half the map on fire

[olive ember]

yep, its why fire does jack to carapace

[weak widget]

what happens if enemies have dot debuffs and i switch to melee weapon with +carapace damage

[olive ember]

pretty sure it boosts but I'm not too certain on that

[weak widget]

bruh

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t stare too deeply into the void

[waxen abyss]

Damage modifiers are applied at moment of hit not moment of cast, but idk if it snapshots DoT at moment of hit or keeps altering the dps based on modifiers

[weak widget]

wonder if anyone knows at fatshark

but they probably wouldn't risk answering

[olive ember]

they've changed it a bit so im not sure

but Ik a tech people used to do was apply fire

and then stroke illisi to build peril

and warp unleashed buff would get applied to the dot

same thing with slaughterer stacks from the force sword

they changed it a bit so I'm not particularly sure how it works anymore but some of the interactions are still there

this is actually the entire justification for bringing ascendant blaze wildfire instead of ascendant blaze warp battery with autopistol gun psyker build pre class rework

[zinc phoenix]

Guess they initially figured the memory overhead of persisting the weapon mod state with the dot wasn’t worth it over just calling the active weapon for cpu but then players gonna player so

[olive ember]

because both pinning fire as well as illisi slaughterer stacks etc. could buff dot damage and allow 4 stacks to kill shit

[weak widget]

sustained fire blessing on trauma would increase power on my third and fourth consecutive charge cast?

[olive ember]

@weak widget can confirm that crits have been changed

its like 200 extra damage now

[olive ember]

don't think that changes any breakpoints on any of the tougher enemies tho

[weak widget]

I mean I didn't play the game from beta until the skill tree update

[unborn flicker]

Surge is just better man

idg the hype with trauma

[olive ember]

it really isn't you are comparing single target TTK in a hordeshooter game that spams 20 ragers at you

also surge staff TTK isn't even consistent now that it can hit limbs

[weak widget]

trauma is so satisfying though, delete hordes, stagger every special/rager/carapace

[olive ember]

oof

[unborn flicker]

satisfying doesnt keep you alive tho

[weak widget]

feels like you're giving your team massive space

well causing the squad of 10 ragers to trip does help keep everyone alive

how many will you kill with surge before the leftover kill your team?

[unborn flicker]

thats when I pull out smite 😉

[weak widget]

I guess

trauma can stun everyone and do damage at the same time

[olive ember]

Trauma is literally meta along with voidstrike rn

saying surge is better than trauma is

a take

The real answer is that if you really value the single target damage of the Surge so much

voidstrike does what surge does

but better

with more CC

and less peril

and more range

[unborn flicker]

voidstrike requires too much time to charge

[hasty ether]

purgatus is solid too

[olive ember]

What

voidstrike is literally one extra second to charge

[weak widget]

btw the damage table in game doesn't take into account the equipped perks right? only the base weapon stats?

[hasty breach]

if i want to gunpsyker? is the kantrael mk 12 a decent starting place?

[olive ember]

Purge is decent too but its limit range hurts it

[hasty ether]

thats why you take brainburst with purg

[olive ember]

yes

[olive ember]

las pistol, vraks 3, vraks 7, or columnus Infantry auto gun

gun psyker builds around crit, so you want guns which can utilize said crit

[weak widget]

[olive ember]

yes

pretty sure atleast tbh I don't look at damage tables all that much XD

[weak widget]

this game could be so much better, god

[olive ember]

there is a damage calculator out there which factors in perks n stuff

[weak widget]

the crafting system is so odd, the interactions are all so enigmatic

blessings being not shared between staves is odd when most are the same, I can't imagine what it must be like for a casual player

[weak widget]

oh voidstrike penetrates?

[olive ember]

its 12 cleave iirc

so iirc it will pen everything besides maulers and ogryns

[weak widget]

need to get me one

[olive ember]

I mean its 12 cleave is actually one of its weaknesses

better now that its 12, as opposed to 6 pre rework

but 12 pales in comparison to trauma and purge which both have infinite cleave

and better than the surge staff with a whopping TARGET LIMIT of 2

There was a funny thing pre rework where the surge staff was actually better against crushers than teh voidstrike solely because it had a target limit of 5, which meant it could hit 5 crushers, where as the voidstrike could only hit a cleave limit of 6, which was literally one crusher

but now that surge staff is a 2 target weapon even that difference is less noticeable

[untold widget]

Pretty sure fully charged voidstrike still penetrates crushers, maybe even bulwarks

[olive ember]

it doesn't

voidstrike can ignore shield of bulwarks however

[untold widget]

I mean it does for me I guess I'm saying

because I shoot through the ogryns to kill the gunners like.. all the time

[bold maple]

what blessing on voidstrike again

transfer peril + flurry right?

[untold widget]

if you've got surge, I recommend it

absolutely cracked

I'm running transfer peril and surge just because the locked blessing is transfer peril

[olive ember]

d

[olive ember]

nowadays people bring surge because you can get lots of crits and it lets you do 2 shots on crushers n shit

[unborn flicker]

theres transfer peril on surge?

[olive ember]

I'd suggest warp nexus + surge

[untold widget]

surge blessing

for voidstrike

[olive ember]

transfer peril on surge is unreliable and you are fishing for crits

tho some people think its worth to bring

[bold maple]

but surge have no aoe for horde and short range tho

besides im feeling void today

[untold widget]

voidstrike staff with surge blessing. the blessing does 2 hits when you crit

[unborn flicker]

ohhh

that thing

[olive ember]

voidstrike with surge blessing and warp nexus

[unborn flicker]

meh

[olive ember]

please

[bold maple]

ah shit I dont have that perk

[olive ember]

don't use surge staff

[unborn flicker]

Surge staff is great

[olive ember]

I cry a little bit inside everytime I have to play with a surge staff psyker

[untold widget]

well, you can use surge staff

its awesome

[olive ember]

I get to watch them hit a gunner and not kill it because funny inconsistencies

[lethal lagoon]

Cry when they beat you on the scoreboard 😎

[bold maple]

dont have surge perk so ig ill just sub it in with flurry

[untold widget]

above 50% peril all gunners get 1 shot with surge staff and warp rider

[lethal lagoon]

Also yes, just crying in general.

[olive ember]

lmao

thats cute

[untold widget]

adorable. also true

[lethal lagoon]

😎

[untold widget]

they fixed the limb targetting thing so its not inconsistent anymore, other than crit fishing

[unborn flicker]

surge staff isnt as good as it was last patch, but its damage and cc are top notch

[olive ember]

nope

it still is inconsistent

because they didn't factor in armor values

see that funny dreg gunner which has a flak chest? too bad you hit its arms or legs and those are unarmoured

so you don't one shot it, even if you took +flak

[lethal lagoon]

They absolutely did not fix the limb targetting thing. They just gave it a flat damage boost to hold over in the meantime when it targets limbs.

[olive ember]

they made it so targeting limbs don't automatically nerf its damage in half

[bold maple]

before class rework transfer peril and flurry let you spam voidstrike staff pretty much forever with no quelling needed

[olive ember]

but if you have perks targeting specific armors

like flak

and you hit their limbs and their limbs aren't flak

[bold maple]

I feel like it's got more dps on surge + nexus but not as much burst

[olive ember]

well too bad you don't get the damage boost

[lethal lagoon]

Surge staff also seems to do more boss damage, esp nurgle, for.... reasons?

Mind you it's still mid-tier for boss damage

[olive ember]

I can't test that, tho I think its because bosses had multipliers that reduced surge staff damage before

[severe folio]

gotta have to learn to delegate duties into your many tools that you can carry

[lethal lagoon]

But I ocassionally get 1st or 2nd for boss damage just spamming surge and it's a bit weird.

[olive ember]

but now its does full damage against bosses

[severe folio]

cant just put all the roles onto a single weapon

[olive ember]

so its actually "better"

and you don't have to care about the jankiness that is different body parts have different armor values with bosses

[severe folio]

its apparently a bug that surge couldnt do well on monst before, and now it has been remedied

[lethal lagoon]

It sucks the jankiness can't target the nurgle weakspot though

kind of weird it only doesn't work on nurgle

[severe folio]

now its dealing the damage it suppose to deal

on monst

well because nurg weakspot is unique compare to other monst\

other monst have a designated head

[olive ember]

Surge staff can't hit weakspots with rmb anyways

[lethal lagoon]

Yes it can

[severe folio]

it can now

[olive ember]

oh right

it does that now

[lethal lagoon]

Spec into true aim and watch the stacks

or just look for the orange in the psych

[severe folio]

but does it receive the extra weakspot damage

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[severe folio]

or can it only register weakspot hit

very crazy

just like a lightning bolt

[lethal lagoon]

Lightning bolts are actually pretty consistent

But in fantasy it's usually not

So let's go with that

[severe folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Bag8_u7gQ

like this ?

[lethal lagoon]

Is that real or is he just drunk?

[severe folio]

this is real

[lethal lagoon]

Lmao

[severe folio]

he'sdead

[untold widget]

its not even real lightning

can't be

[severe folio]

it is

[lethal lagoon]

Probably should delete that.

[severe folio]

he's dead

[untold widget]

because if a bomber pulls a grenade and you electrocute him, he drops it

[lethal lagoon]

^

[untold widget]

which is impossible

[severe folio]

true

should have rip his body apart

[untold widget]

so I think it's just plasma that deals burn damage

[lethal lagoon]

Also, back when it did no damage to unarmored and stuff but more damage to carpace and flak

That's the opposite of how lightning works

[severe folio]

well its warp shit so

[lethal lagoon]

Warp lightning does whatever it wants

[severe folio]

warp lightning does whatever it want

[untold widget]

it's just concentrated soulfire

not lightning

[severe folio]

that may be a possibility

but then why does it freeze other enemies up

[untold widget]

same with Smite

sensory overload

[severe folio]

same confusing effect is also how electrocution work

[untold widget]

too much burning to use legs

[severe folio]

sensory overload ?

burning can do that ?

[untold widget]

probably

[severe folio]

doubt that

[untold widget]

its why you can only stop drop and roll

[severe folio]

well that doesnt sound like a result of sensory overload

[untold widget]

they only get as far as stop before dying

[severe folio]

that doesnt seem to be the same as freezing up

or paralysis

[untold widget]

what's really fucking me up is how my name plus fs number is exactly as long as your name without

[severe folio]

i carefully space i

it

[untold widget]

but anyways, my entire point is warp lightning should nullify grenaders

grenadiers

bombers

[lethal lagoon]

Oh fuck, you know how surge does those little ticks of damage? Those can weakspot for true aim.

[severe folio]

well they blow up after they die, before they die

[lethal lagoon]

I never noticed.

Thats... pretty wild.

[severe folio]

yeah

seeing that i can customize these hammer and sword head on my staffs

makes me feel disappointed everytime about the staffs special melee

we could have had some degree of greatness

[untold widget]

also you're right. I don't always 1 shot with surge on gunners, except if it crits

[zinc phoenix]

I used the staff melee recently

[untold widget]

which I run true aim on, so it just feels like it does

[zinc phoenix]

It was an accident

But it actually worked and was useful

[severe folio]

let me guess

as a stagger and spacing tool

[untold widget]

i bonk ragers with it

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been trying a thing with trauma when I’m in a horde where I mix in staff melee after every blap

[severe folio]

i see

[zinc phoenix]

No I literally just accidentally pushed the button and it bonked a few pox walker

[severe folio]

and what does that do

[lethal lagoon]

It still makes no sense to me that the special on the staff isn't some psyker thing.

[zinc phoenix]

Well the testing was in meat grinder so not much

[zinc phoenix]

Like what?

[untold widget]

Beam staff shotgun effect in VT2

[lethal lagoon]

Saying "You shall not pass" to a plague ogryn and him getting stunned.

[severe folio]

warp slash

[severe folio]

it stagger, push them to the side, cleave a lot of them, and make space between you and them

[unborn flicker]

wasted oppurtunity for more warp magic

[severe folio]

my question is

[untold widget]

staff special should just be a block tbqh

[severe folio]

why does the special melee cleave so much

[zinc phoenix]

Or just have it summon a weird demon

[untold widget]

not a force block either, just regular

[lethal lagoon]

Some sort of mid range mid damage attack inbetween left and right click works too

Just literally anything other than a pointless bonk.

[untold widget]

chibi daemonhost

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker's blowing up should be stronger but also have a chance to summon a weakened deamonhost on t5, I need it.

I won't rest until wound psyker build is a thing.

[zinc phoenix]

It’d be fun but then people would be killing themselves on purpose all the time and that’s pretty anti social

[unborn flicker]

its dumb that wacking our enemies with something not meant to be a melee tool is what they came up with

[lethal lagoon]

There's already lots of ways to BM your team, and no one really does it(on purpose) 🤷‍♂️

Besides, nothing is ever going to beat a stealth zealot pulling half the map and getting confused when his team dies.

[severe folio]

hm

why does the bonk feels

odd now

[lethal lagoon]

Your range is off from the customs?

[severe folio]

no notthe range

just

the feels

[unborn flicker]

what in tarnation

it has cleave

[severe folio]

only heavy special have cleave

mean you have to hold the special attack button

yes it has heavy edition

[untold widget]

muscle wizard casts beatdown

[unborn flicker]

anywho, we need less beat em with stick

[severe folio]

oh

[unborn flicker]

more beat em with warp

[severe folio]

the heavy stab

can knock rager down

[untold widget]

i bonk ragers

[unborn flicker]

rager will mess you up

if you get close enough to bonk

[severe folio]

hmmm

nah

stagger them with purg first then knock them to the ground

[unborn flicker]

Im dissatisfied

Hopefully december or future updates bring some love

[severe folio]

maybe it can stagger crusher

[half iron]

stave melee on top‼️💯🗣️🗣️

[untold niche]

can i conclude that scrier is better at harder difficulty just off how much stuff director throws at you

you kill more stuff, more stacks

[rare arrow]

Psykers feel so strong.

[brave fiber]

ok after some testing crit surge voidstaff is sick as FUCK

new favorite build

[strong gulch]

grump

[digital narwhal]

It'd be neat if they buffed the damage of that.
Having the Staff Melee be viable for clearing chaff would be neat.

[brave fiber]

f

[lethal lagoon]

Everyone knows Run n' Gun is the secret meta.

[strong gulch]

🇫

[strong gulch]

Good point. Fixed the perks. 😌

[severe folio]

this is so horrible lol

[lethal lagoon]

You better do at least one game with that lmao

The wind from your sheer speed will dry your tears.

[strong gulch]

Staff melee H1 has a weird amount of cleave on it. Still not something I'd use, but you can throw a lot of little guys back if you hit them in the head with the bonk H2.

[severe folio]

it seem to

be able to stagger crusher

but only if you charge hit head

[strong gulch]

yeah

[severe folio]

or could just

switch to an mk4 and do better lol

[strong gulch]

faster too

[severe folio]

useless discovery i have found

[untold widget]

well if I'm 4 stacks of true aim in and I can one shot with voidsurge, bonk into charge shot could be legit

[severe folio]

cant get true aim with bonk

[untold widget]

uh..yeah?

you can

[severe folio]

you sure ?

[untold widget]

literally just did it

[severe folio]

fatshark is so silly

[compact bluff]

it also procs transfer peril
time to make a staff melee scriers gaze build as the biggest joke

[severe folio]

hmm

[weak widget]

I really dislike how the game punishes you for using your ability with warp charges

[brave fiber]

i think that exists to stop you from having an (effectively) permanant buff throughout the entirety of a mission

[untold niche]

they could do half stacks

or only 1 left

[weak widget]

but it's a badly designed buff then

[brave fiber]

not really

[lethal lagoon]

From a different perspective, it's kind of hard to choose anything over a 24% BASE damage buff and a 30% peril reduction buff.

[weak widget]

it should empower the next ability if anything and getting the charges should require more attention

[brave fiber]

i dont find it too hard to build up stacks after spending them

[weak widget]

they build up instantly in higher difficulties

[lethal lagoon]

Ayo, add warp charges back to BB, and give a different third keystone, would finally make BB viable.

[brave fiber]

whats the issue then

[compact bluff]

it also has no cleave damage falloff so its measly 84 damage still applies to 22 groaners which actually makes it bizarrely okay?
plus its cleave is so massive you can hit and stun 2 crushers with it per swing. which is almost useless but unique and funny

[weak widget]

it's just stupid that you have to discharge them when using an ability that you use when you need that damage

[brave fiber]

(or just make ep BB default lol)

it feels so much better with ep

[lethal lagoon]

I just hate how EP BB punishes you for using BB on anything but a one-shotabble elite

It's a bad mechanic, and you can't really use BB to clear far away range hordes anymore

[brave fiber]

yeahhh

it is dumb

[weak widget]

also assail is extremely boring in my opinion

hehe equip spam left click wait and do it again

[brave fiber]

opinions are allowed to be had

[weak widget]

hehehe

[lethal lagoon]

I tried running assail with a focus on right clicks and using DD, actually kind of fun.

[untold niche]

quick question does BB one shot anything that a meta revolver can't?

[lethal lagoon]

I guess it deals with shields better?

[brave fiber]

nope

[lethal lagoon]

Probably does more boss damage too, but one shot, no.

[next heart]

i just liking killing gunners from behind a nice safe wall with bb

[lethal lagoon]

Assail right click can one-two shot DD targets, they actually pair really well together.

[untold niche]

i get that revolver highly likely to get more nerfs but that is still pretty sad

[brave fiber]

people think im crazy for thinking empowered bb should 1 tap crushers, then a zealot runs by and double taps 3 crushers in a row

[lethal lagoon]

Plus it's really easy to aim at DD targets with assail.

Only version of assail I like

[untold niche]

zealot can't do that :v
other than with volver

[brave fiber]

yeah thats what im referring to

i would know xd

[lethal lagoon]

If you double crit on dagger with uncanny and critical fevor, you can 2 shot three crushers technically.

[urban sandal]

zealot's blazing piety is more or less this though

[untold niche]

i havent get my surgical after like 10+ rolls

[lethal lagoon]

Crusher overheads plus the current server lag makes them really rough in melee atm lmao

[untold niche]

doesnt vet and psyker have volvo too @brave fiber

[lethal lagoon]

I'll get downed while the hammers in the air, it's wild.

[brave fiber]

its a little annoying im getting so many absolute god rolls on zealot, while psyker is my main

and i get shit on him

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, but the point is more that BB is shit.

[untold niche]

understand.

[half iron]

weird way to spell veteran

[untold niche]

veteran can one tap crushers

:v

[lethal lagoon]

Vet is still the highest DPS class, fight me.

[untold niche]

exe stance or something, someone posted a vid

[brave fiber]

the main argument was that if other classes can wipe things like crushers with that much ease, bb should be able to match

[lethal lagoon]

You just need to keep your teammates alive with well-timed/spammed shouts.

Need those meatbags taking fire for you

[untold niche]

miainly because they get to shoot stuff before i can melee

[unkempt hare]

Surge staff 2-3 shots crushers with secondary

[half iron]

veterans do not have melee weapons.

[unkempt hare]

I love surge staff I love brain burst

[untold niche]

is there a good build for one shotting crushers with voidstrike staff :v

[brave fiber]

hell, voidstrike with surge 1 shots crushers on a crit

[untold niche]

i posted my build but apparently scrier + void staff = bad

[lethal lagoon]

I don't see how surge 2 shots a crusher. Carpace perk plus two crits at high peril with 6 warps charges, maybe? Even 3 shots seems off for normal gameplay.

[half iron]

to use a melee weapon does not make you a real veteran. any veteran spotted laying a finger on any blade will get a commissar-branded round to their head

[unkempt hare]

Scrier kinda sucks so does destiny the rightmost keystone

Cuz they don't work right

To my knowledge at least it's been awhile

[brave fiber]

i think they fixed dd

it just wasnt marking things

[weak widget]

what is this buff

[severe folio]

your staff buff

[brave fiber]

revolver or columnus iirc

[severe folio]

check it

[weak widget]

sustained fire

trying to figure out how it works

[unkempt hare]

3rd and fourth shots get more damage

[lethal lagoon]

I've seen a lot of laspistol lovers but the ammo economy is too shit for me.

[weak widget]

but it applies on the first or second it seems

my fourth shot does less damage than the first 3

[unkempt hare]

Wouldn't that be opening salvo? Or something like that?

[unkempt hare]

Yup

[weak widget]

what do you mean, yup

[brave fiber]

i dont know exactly, im not a gunker aficionado

[unkempt hare]

18% more damage on third and fourth shots in a salvo

[brave fiber]

ive heard good things bout it tho

[unkempt hare]

I just saw a video on terms in blessings in darktide

[weak widget]

so i click 4 times, click 3 and 4 should do 18% more?

[unkempt hare]

Something like that

[weak widget]

and then 5 and 6 normal damage, 7 and 8 boosted?

[unkempt hare]

Nah just 3 and 4

[weak widget]

lol

[unkempt hare]

1-8 is same salvo so it's just 3 and four that get the perk

So if you whiff those two you're sol for a few seconds

I could be wrong

[weak widget]

seems just mediocre

ah well

anyone can say if venting shriek can crit when you get the rupture augment?

[unkempt hare]

Thats why I like warp flurry

No idea

[strong gulch]

I did a high intensity T4. Didn't use the RMB charge a single time. I did use creeping flames, but it was mostly the LMB. Other psyker had purg so I didn't use creeping flames as much. We wiped because we got punked off a bridge, BUT it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. LMAO. Is for sure a meme, but I feel like I should not be top damage. It feels wrong. 😂

[lethal lagoon]

Time for Auric mael with the Zoom Staff(tm)

[strong gulch]

😭

[lethal lagoon]

Crying tears of joy, I know, I would be too.

[brave fiber]

honestly if fatshark adds more blessings down the line i lowkey want staff bonk blessings

i need more dumb stuff to mess with

[unkempt hare]

Knockback on special would be so good, or rending/brittleness

Play a dangerous game

Get in range of crushers and maulers so you can apply a status effect that will let you kill them quickly

I feel like thats a missed opportunity

[brave fiber]

there should be more debuffing blessings like shockwave tbh

for all staffs

[unkempt hare]

Not familiar with shockwave what it do?

[brave fiber]

Rending Shockwave

Target receives up to 2-8 Stacks of 5% Brittleness, scaling with charge time of Secondary Attack. Lasts 5s.

brittleness is just extra damage taken

so up to 40% more dmg

at max charge debuff

[unkempt hare]

What staff?

[brave fiber]

trauma

[unkempt hare]

Ahhh okay pair that with warp flurry could be really strong

[brave fiber]

best part is that it works for your whole team

[unkempt hare]

But I like surge

[brave fiber]

so everyone does 40% more dmg to that thing you hit

including bosses

pretty sure

[unkempt hare]

Yeah imma need to make that

[strong gulch]

Here's the terrible run and gun surge RMB banned because hadron fecked me build. (please don't use this)

[brave fiber]

cursed

[strong gulch]

💯

Got top damage too.

We wiped tho.

I accept no responsibility.

[brave fiber]

+2 stamina wheeze

[unkempt hare]

Burster?

[half iron]

john crusher jumpscare is responsible

[strong gulch]

Slugged off a bridge.

[brave fiber]

with the sprint efficiency

that is funny

[unkempt hare]

BoN?

[strong gulch]

balls only

[strong gulch]

yee

Crushers were involved but they were prancing around

[unkempt hare]

Not nearly the bastard that flesh bags are

[strong gulch]

true

[lethal lagoon]

Like a girl on instagram saying "I look so bad today" Just fishing for compliments on that amazing staff, aren't you 😡

[half iron]

hey! fleshbags have feelings too😢

[brave fiber]

ive recently discoved how good standard staff m1s actually are

never actually used them lol

[weak widget]

it's not a competition you know

[severe folio]

i want to play with the laspistol but this wifi is so bad lol

[unkempt hare]

Nurgle ate their souls no they dont

[strong gulch]

I've been caught. 😭

[vapid lichen]

the fact that they have infinite range and zero spread is so nice

[lethal lagoon]

Servers have been poopy last few days, might not be your wifi

[brave fiber]

we all know you for the true metamancer you are

[severe folio]

no its prob my wifi

[strong gulch]

They had a buff recently. Much faster than they used to be.

[brave fiber]

op build tbh

[severe folio]

im using cafe level wifi to play

but more than that

carnival still have a lot of lag spot for me

and when you hit quickplay damnation

most of the time its carnival

[lethal lagoon]

Less a buff and more saving us from having to animation cancel.

[half iron]

must be a lot of lag because carnival is the only map rn

[lethal lagoon]

But a buff for most people lmao

[severe folio]

it is a lot of lag

[vapid lichen]

quell cancelling to increase firerate is asking for carpal tunnel

[lethal lagoon]

Animation canceling to make staff lmb somewhat viable is just so not worth it, so it's nice.

[severe folio]

the start of the mission is unbearable

[strong gulch]

buff for these fingies

[brave fiber]

psyker players ending their darktide sessions with their hands permanently stuck as claws

[strong gulch]

can't even pick up a cup

[half iron]

our hands are more powerful than you can think

[idle bay]

Use your mind. Or straw 🙂

[strong gulch]

mind straw

[half iron]

use a larger cup! psyker strong like ogryn!

[brave fiber]

borrow ogryn's water cup

dunk your head in it no need for fingers

[sweet pelican]

i hate that my psyker who is newly leveled 30 has a way better weapon then my ogryn i played for a long time

[half iron]

my zealot has a better revolver than my current😭

[urban sandal]

my psyker is the same

[brave fiber]

same for my zealot, i main psyker but i only get all my god tier stuff on zealot

[sweet pelican]

i got this last night

[brave fiber]

got damn

[sweet pelican]

yea... my ogryns living on a 510 weapon for abit

[brave fiber]

i do think crit chance over crit dmg is better tho

[sweet pelican]

then my psyker got this

[brave fiber]

purgatus does like no dmg to begin with

[sweet pelican]

oh i might of picked wrong perk

[brave fiber]

you can change it

[sweet pelican]

yee ill go change it rn

[idle bay]

Kickback and Billy Club MK IIIb - and all your troble go away - the most relaxing weapons to use as Ogryn

[half iron]

i resisted the urge to become a knife zealot then john omnissiah gave me a 500+ godroll skrillex bass drop weezer concert knife

[sweet pelican]

i use club3 but achlys

[lethal lagoon]

It doesn't make sense to play anything but knife zealot, because then it's just a worse version of Ogryn

[idle bay]

Kickback is still amazing even after last minor nerf to it.

[half iron]

my ogryn is a knife zealot

[golden tartan]

Knife zealot is worse than melee vet anyway :P

[half iron]

fake. vets don’t have melee weapons.

[strong gulch]

Kinfe is fun. A hand killer tho

[golden tartan]

Whatcha mean. Vet is the melee class now xD

[idle bay]

He just have a lot of speeeeeeeeeee *** and he is down 🙂