psyker-class

[harsh urchin]

You dont have to charge it up to full

You can left click

Or just shortcharge rightclick to stagger

[ornate hamlet]

Nexus and surge is a wacky combo

[harsh urchin]

I wouldnt run surge without nexus

[ornate hamlet]

If need be, just keep shooting early

[harsh urchin]

If you want to run flurry I highly recommend transfer instead lol

[stable silo]

Warp flurry/transfer peril, warp nexus/surge. The first combo is stronger for horde clear and cc the second.combo is raw sexual dps

Current meta favors warp nexus and surge to defeat armored swarms where horde control has more options though again gunner hordes flurry and transfer work well if u can spam headshots

[lunar hollow]

tbh i want flayer to be turned into "kinetic detonation"

and it gives u an explosion based off the value of the target killed

[ornate hamlet]

Based

Or maybe some magical way of using it on trigger

Imagine having an instant charge stored to use anytime you wanr

[lunar hollow]

i miss cerebral lacerations

[ornate hamlet]

T

Fuck phone keyboards

I don't, sounds gay

Stinky blitz

[lunar hollow]

it was basically only good in monstrosity maelstrom

but it was cool

[ornate hamlet]

I want uh

A node that changes DoTs into warpfire idk

Soulblaze crit knife

[lunar hollow]

i kinda wish applying soulblaze on crit was a talent

rather than a blessing

[ornate hamlet]

Same

[lunar hollow]

like i do not like the direction they took psyker's tree at all outside of scrier's gaze and DD

[static needle]

How about running transfer peril and warp flurry with scrier's?

[ornate hamlet]

It's too shit for a blessing, but talents are numerous enough

[frigid zenith]

When two people apply the same dot to a mob, does the first applier get the credit for all the damage?

[lunar hollow]

there is a lot of potential in space magic man and the tree just feels restrictive in dumb ways without some of the cooler ideas explored

[lunar hollow]

yup, they "own" the DoT

[ornate hamlet]

Tbh

[lunar hollow]

so if they have uncanny or any other buffs that boost dot damage, they apply it

[ornate hamlet]

Laspistol push needs to be more widespread

Headhunters have a push too

[brave charm]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

Staves as well

[static needle]

How about running transfer peril and warp flurry on a voidstrike and combine that with scrier's gaze?

[rigid rune]

forbidden

[ornate hamlet]

Do it

Infinite scrier

[frigid zenith]

Transfer peril and surge on void strike is my favorite combo.

[ornate hamlet]

Le funi

[stable silo]

People do it, its Just less commin

Common**

[static needle]

here we are again i see

[static needle]

do u run scrier's with that?

[frigid zenith]

Nope.

Warp charges

[static needle]

then wtf how are u gonna make use of that juicy crit?

[frigid zenith]

Uhhh raw damage?

Pew pew.

[static needle]

yes but why run surge when its so infrequent?

[lethal folio]

might aswell use flurry instead.

[frigid zenith]

Doesn't seem infrequent to me.

[static needle]

instead of surge?

[lethal folio]

unless you stretch to true aim.

[static needle]

but when using true aim with that you need to set it up

[frigid zenith]

It does poopy tons of damage soooo uhhhh .. /shrug

[static needle]

in aurics you usually cant set it up like that in my experience

[lethal folio]

Void strike true aim plays itself.

[clear heath]

just hit head

[ornate hamlet]

Speaking of

Does surge count as 2 hits for true aim?

[static needle]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

Based

[static needle]

but like

[whole oxide]

but, when you're getting lots of procs of true-aim, is firing into horde, you don't need surge to proc when firing into horde, you need it on high-value single targets

[static needle]

do you spam left click to set up a true aim crit?

[lethal folio]

no

[frigid zenith]

Surge also counts for more transfer peril.

[static needle]

huh? you only kill em once

[fresh reef]

the fact that warp rupture has damage falloff is hilarious

[frigid zenith]

obviously, but it can still hit other things.

[fresh reef]

like it already does just 200 damage at close range, but anything beyond like 5 meters and it's already down to 100

57 at 27 meters

[idle aurora]

Oh yeah, this node exists 😂

[fresh reef]

I mean

at the very least, it ignores armor

[idle aurora]

This is the sub node for shriek right? So the choice there is either this or creeping flames

[long wharf]

imagine using shriek without creeping flames

[stable silo]

Always flame on

[idle aurora]

I would actually try the other one, if it wasn't so pathetic in terms of damage

[long wharf]

if it was 300, that would at least kill the horde

[idle aurora]

Because dealing a set instant amount of damage to a big amount of enemies sounds pretty good

At 300 it might be a bit op, i would set it to 250 with fall off to like 150 at max distance

[stable silo]

No i like setting everything on fire by yelling at it, esp since u can amp it

[visual adder]

Psykers

[long wharf]

I do think the damage-on-shriek node should be changed to something else

[idle aurora]

Go into stealth

[long wharf]

maybe "reduce cooldown by 1 second for every enemy hit" or something

ughhhhhhh no

[glossy ember]

"don't consume warp stacks" node

[long wharf]

that's exactly what I was thinking

how stupid is it for warp charges to be consumed by default

[stable silo]

U cant amp the raw dmg like u can fire, shriek fire comes swap to illis and pump that power

[idle aurora]

so basically what we had before patch 13 on one of the 3 talents?

Don't remember which one was it, i think it didn't spent charges. Or maybe i am misremembering at this point

[long wharf]

pre-13, it was a feat to consume warp charges for cooldown

post-13, FartShack made it default warp siphon behavior

[static needle]

Should i take this perk or +15 toughness? im using assail

[long wharf]

I never do

[long wharf]

if you have the spare points, go look at getting perilous combustion

or the "dodge for 1s when you crit"

those are very, very good nodes

vastly better than 15 toughness

[ornate hamlet]

It's a nice node for when you want to dump assail on a crowd of elites

[long wharf]

my assail build doesn't have the spare point for that

[static needle]

Do you always wanna run warp charges for a build with this? im not so sure you do...

[long wharf]

if you're wanting to make void staff your focus, warp siphon works well

though in that case, I'd rather run void with surge+nexus

[tawdry pasture]

i got chinese food and its fire

[long wharf]

chinese food is my favorite food

[rigid rune]

put it out???

[tawdry pasture]

nevuh

[long wharf]

nah, eat it while on fire

[strong gulch]

If you can manage your peril, you can run any of the keystones. I generally stick to inner tranquility (warp siphon modifier) for comfort.

[long wharf]

yeah, 30% peril resistance is really hard to pass up

as you already want the 24% damage buff

[strong gulch]

Directly out of the pan or oven. Too hot to touch. Perfect temp to eat.

[long wharf]

just scoop it up with your fingers immediately

don't even think about it

in fact, just grab the wok right off the stove and pour the contents directly into your mouth

[strong gulch]

Live action

[long wharf]

real facts though - I could eat chinese food 7 days a week

haven't been to a decent chinese buffet in years

[sly charm]

Hmmm, Worth or naw?

[ornate hamlet]

trufax

Ye

Well

Actually kinda wack

[sly charm]

idk what blessing or perks are good on it

[ornate hamlet]

Unstable and high warp resist are wonky

[long wharf]

you want the rending blessing, I'm pretty sure

[ornate hamlet]

Could uh

[bold maple]

damn psyker dont have agripina braced autogun?

[ornate hamlet]

Replace unstable with uncanny, get unarmored instead of block

[long wharf]

psyker doesn't have any braced autoguns

only IAGs

[ornate hamlet]

Walk up to people and do light pokes

[bold maple]

rip

[harsh urchin]

Psyker puny arms too weak to hold any of the heavier guns

[bold maple]

using that gun on momentum zealot makes me feel like playing csgo

aim head spray pull down

[long wharf]

psyker only needs to be strong enough to hold staff properly

[bold maple]

thought I'd go try it out with scrier but rip

[sly charm]

I think the rolls are good enough I might just grab it for cope to. Incase FS ever adds a way to fully craft a weapn, like change all blessing and perks

Even if the other doesnt work out

[long wharf]

I really don't see FartShack enabling further weapon reworking

[ornate hamlet]

Just do IAGs instead

[sly charm]

likely not

[rose dagger]

Wut they reworked weapons years into vt2 development

[long wharf]

time will tell

[bold maple]

idk iags have like 50% less dmg per bullet

braced autogun is crazy efficient in ammo

[rose dagger]

They removed the DOT element to siennas mace and made it more powerful with raw dmg

[ornate hamlet]

Click general direction of head

[sly charm]

More than anything else I just want new weapons from the part 2 update. For every class

[ornate hamlet]

Abuse finesse

[sly charm]

A class would b enice but very unlikely

[rose dagger]

Ogryn really needs more weapons

[ornate hamlet]

I want to have the executioner and Bretonnian swords from VT2

[sly charm]

idk we might be getting drugs if reddit is correct

[rose dagger]

More staffs on psyker would be great

[sly charm]

since they showed one of the pictures hidden under the blur is in fact

drugs

[rose dagger]

I'm a dirty laspistol psyker as of late

[sly charm]

but is that for us

or for our enmies

[idle aurora]

There was a confirmation that we will get new ones?

[long wharf]

I'd be more excited if instead of new staves, FartShack made the current staves share blessings

[ornate hamlet]

Give me beam staff primary with bolt secondary

[sly charm]

Was there? Ive seen all the data mined shit

but

No confirmation

but we dont know what is under part 2

[rose dagger]

Those are both single target

[bold maple]

pistol + rapier would be nice for psyker

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[rose dagger]

So one would be redundant

[long wharf]

nobody knows what "part 2" consists of

[idle aurora]

[sly charm]

If weapon customization mod is anything to go off of

[ornate hamlet]

Then make them cleave

[sly charm]

which its probably not

but if it is

there are some very complete weapons in the files

[spice veldt]

give the bolt stagger and don't give the beam stagger

ez

[sly charm]

like boltgun

err

pistol

[ornate hamlet]

Turn psyker beam into that opening scene from Ghost Ship

[idle aurora]

db shotgun

[waxen abyss]

Part 2 is when amogus Morningstar mission is released

[rose dagger]

Corus primary with bolt secondary would be crazy

[idle aurora]

PSYKER JUST VENTED

[ornate hamlet]

Dumbass that was the leveling cutscenes

[sly charm]

Cleave damage is kind of trash right? Is that alright?

[ornate hamlet]

The sus impostor sells us ordo dockets cosmetics

[waxen abyss]

No you see that was just a taste

[long wharf]

naughty... I like it

[waxen abyss]

Traitor’s curse is to make us play among us in darktide

[ornate hamlet]

Real ong no cap?

[fresh reef]

Warp Rupture is just so, so pathetically bad

[waxen abyss]

If I understand cleave right - the only thing that cleaves on mk4 is the light attacks

At this point I’d just be worried about the perks and blessings

[fresh reef]

it should deal 500-1000 damage, based on peril

[ornate hamlet]

Cleave damage apparently also dictates first target

[willow hazel]

I just saw someone do pretty well with it.

[waxen abyss]

Ah damn

That sounds pretty important then

[fresh reef]

it's not as bad as Unlucky for Some where it's literally just a waste of a node

but Creeping Flames is right there and is better in every way

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, anything above 70 is already pretty nice

[waxen abyss]

Yeah but some people just love min-maxing to hell

I’d keep it myself though

[ornate hamlet]

Ngl I maybe might see a case for warp rupture with purgatus

[spice veldt]

cleave damage is unarmored/infested/flak armour damage modifiers

[waxen abyss]

I mean, start consecrating

[sly charm]

Mmm

[ornate hamlet]

Since the staff softens them and the shout does that little burst

Problem

The burst really is little

[spice veldt]

but it's bugged to not scale flak adms on the duelling sword so it's whatevs

[ornate hamlet]

[willow hazel]

Oh yeah, I thought you meant the ability.

rupture is bad

[waxen abyss]

You are a veritable encyclopedia

[fresh reef]

nah nah, Shriek itself is amazing. Easy contender as the 'meta' ability

[ornate hamlet]

Mesays rampage to uncanny and stamina to idk

[willow hazel]

agreed

[spice veldt]

penetration on duellies also doesn't scale flak, though it presumably works properly on the mk5

[ornate hamlet]

Tbh with the stamina slot being guaranteed

I'd test heavy breakpoints

[waxen abyss]

Such a bugged sword and yet it’s still so good

[willow hazel]

Venting Shriek does about the same damage as a purgatus staff, but you still get to use a staff

[waxen abyss]

[ornate hamlet]

Unarmored if you can one-shot gunners, that kinda stuff

Or even

Infested

Rending doesn't affect them and uncanny already can stack up to 125% of it

[fresh reef]

so true

[fresh reef]

and with a bit less than double the range

[ornate hamlet]

Heavy crits already deal idiotic damage on their own too

[sly charm]

yea the heavy crits are uh

you pretty much breakpointing for when you dont crit

just about

[ornate hamlet]

Mhm

Mine has 62% damage and no maniac

Mutants still ragdoll with a crit headshot

I think the rest of the specialists doesn't even need a crit

And y'know, I like that

Otherwise it'd be another ughhhh flak maniac weapon

[harsh urchin]

Iags do way more dmg if u can aim

[ornate hamlet]

Mine has infested and unyielding

[harsh urchin]

Braced much better if u wanna just bodyshot tho

[bold maple]

las need repetitive mouse clicking and bad in close range

[harsh urchin]

Iags are automatic

And do insane dmg in close range

Are u ok

Lol

[bold maple]

thought you were talking about kantrael

not the recon ver

but ok

[harsh urchin]

Kant is kinda asss

[bold maple]

braced autogun > still

[harsh urchin]

Iag is infantry autogun

[sly charm]

Just get the mod that makes everyting automatic

[bold maple]

recon have dogshit ammo efficiency

known bloody fact

[fleet mason]

Anything I should replace on this

[sly charm]

save your fingers

and your mouse

[fleet mason]

Or just shuck Surge off

[bold maple]

also no cleave on recon when braced autogun can hit 2 target per bullet

shit vs horde, wasteful vs elite, braced is just better

[vapid lichen]

i would just eat it for surge, personally

[harsh urchin]

Flurry to nexus and groaners to crit

Recon is terrible lol

[cold marsh]

is the stinky stun shield bugged? just watched four crushers waltz right through like it was nothing

[bold maple]

then what the fuck are you talking about

[sacred crane]

Recon is the only bad gun...besides lawbringer

[harsh urchin]

But iags are still amazing

[bold maple]

"las"

what las

[fleet mason]

Would it be better to take surge off and swap it to this or just swap like you said

[harsh urchin]

Tfw ppl cant read english properly and cant tell iag from las

[bold maple]

?

[vapid lichen]

columnus iag is sex

[harsh urchin]

I rest my case

[vapid lichen]

especially with weapon customization mod giving it a sight

[harsh urchin]

LOL

[vapid lichen]

hooooly

[harsh urchin]

Up to yoy

If you have something you want to put it on then take it off

[vapid lichen]

at least the damage roll isnt bricked on the second one

[harsh urchin]

Otherwise if you dont u can just craft onto it until you want to take it off

[harsh urchin]

Look at it again lol

I think you need to use a bettee font on your phone/computer

[bold maple]

who the fuck type iag as Iags

[vapid lichen]

to be fair you did capitalize the i in iag
but then again lowercase l has a little curve to it

[bold maple]

ill

[harsh urchin]

If you cant tell capital I from lower case l

You need a font with better accents

[harsh urchin]

Phone does that automatically

[vapid lichen]

i turned that off years ago

awful setting

[harsh urchin]

I'm not gonna manually change it lmao

[long wharf]

you know what would make all of this obsolete?

properly capitalizing acronyms

IAG

[bold maple]

not a big deal tbh

[vapid lichen]

ciag my beloved

[bold maple]

but being a rude cunts get rude response, simple as

[long wharf]

being rude goes both ways, bud

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[clear heath]

bro changing the font on discord's pc client isn't even a setting

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[long wharf]

buy it, on principle alone

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[long wharf]

and then hold onto it forever, knowing that should you try to upgrade it, Hadron will ruin it for all time

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[clear heath]

not a lot of people really use taxes anymore

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[long wharf]

ahem everyone does taxes

[clear heath]

...

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[sly charm]

taxe is as fun as actual taxes to most ppl rightnow

[harsh urchin]

Its also kinda a bad model iirc

I think the 2 has the best swings

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[sly charm]

I would save up some good rolls if you see them

[harsh urchin]

The other ones have linda weird swings

[sly charm]

there a not zero chance they will get buffed

remember how bad kickback used to be

now its quite good even after the nerfs for ogryn

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[sly charm]

no

but I think it might get buffed

there are plenty of other weapons that have been buffed to be good

not as much as kickback

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[sly charm]

but its possible

They are good. I think I like D4 better but thats not to say they are bad by any mean

but you never know what might occur

and it seems prudent to grab a decently rolled weapon or keep it

even if its trash now

[ornate hamlet]

We taxing?

4 has the best light directions

Unfortunately the heavies are the same damage as mk2's

Despite being insanely vertical

Honestly my suggestion is keep swinging and spamming lights

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[ornate hamlet]

You do miss the zealot and vet attack speed tho

[sly charm]

Yar

[ornate hamlet]

And it doesn't have the heavy power of maybe all dueling swords

[harsh urchin]

Taxes are already pretty good

They just are a bit harder to use

[sly charm]

They got capone so I guess I cant argue with that

[harsh urchin]

I'm not sure theyll get too buffed

[ornate hamlet]

Taxe specials are my favorite part

[harsh urchin]

Because they're already decent

[ornate hamlet]

They stagger so fucking hard so fucking quick

[long wharf]

special taxes are my least favorite

[harsh urchin]

Like for example, taxe with the vet node

[sly charm]

If you look at most of the melee weapons in the game across all classes that can use taxe

there is generally a better answer than using taxe

[harsh urchin]

That gives 10% crit and 25% finesse is insane

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker is arguably the least equipped for taxe

[harsh urchin]

Yes but that applies to everything

[sly charm]

Does it?

[harsh urchin]

Like why use any melee besides HS

[ornate hamlet]

Dclaw, I guess

[long wharf]

dueling sword mk4

[harsh urchin]

Or why use any gun except plasma on vet

[ornate hamlet]

Chainsword suffers a bit

[harsh urchin]

Or why use any gun except revolver

Period

Lol

[ornate hamlet]

Pretty much, yeah

Though I keep the argument it's at its worst on psyker

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[harsh urchin]

Stats are good but rating is too low

[sly charm]

But its not quite that cut and dry I think. There are arguements for example in using a evis or thammer over a HS. They may not be the best of fit your play style but it seems like for taxe there is never an option that isn't completely better on every level

[harsh urchin]

Unlikely to roll good stuff

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[ornate hamlet]

Vet can offset some damage with the brittle talents

Zealot is zealot

[sly charm]

taxe suffers from a lot of things

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker gets scrier and a 5% crit aura

It leans dangerously towards "scrier or fuck off" for me

[harsh urchin]

I dislike the design of scrier personally lol

I wish they made it more like a crit zerk mode

[ornate hamlet]

I dislike it in the sense I dislike exec stance

[harsh urchin]

Rather than a godmode

[ornate hamlet]

I don't like damage buff buttons

It feels lazy

[harsh urchin]

If it were me

I wouldve made it so SG made u do a lot more dmg but also take more dmg

[ornate hamlet]

You get a magic class and give it an intangible damage buff ability? Fucking really?

[harsh urchin]

So it was a true berserk kinda thing

[ornate hamlet]

It can explode minds and we get "warp use sanctioned" for an invisible number increase

Like fuck off

At least exec highlights enemies

[inland crescent]

Dear Psyker friends,

I'm curious about your preferred staff in combat. What makes it your favorite?

[ornate hamlet]

Scrier is just a bland DPS boost

It does it fairly well and I don't question the effectiveness

It's just

It's like drinking water

It does what it sets out to do, but what it sets out to do is boring

[inland crescent]

i dont like scrier as well, but it feels pretty powerful in close quarters with a sword

[ornate hamlet]

Surge is probably my favorite staff to use

[mighty olive]

what people usin on their trauma staff nowadays ? XD

[ornate hamlet]

It has a low amount of blessings, easy to build and it chains RMB super fast

Easily my best staff

[inland crescent]

i dunno, i just havent quite gotten used to the surge staff

[mighty olive]

i dont like the way surge is now, i reallyy hope they redo this weirdness

[ornate hamlet]

It's one-dimensional

[inland crescent]

i find myself struggeling when the situation gets heated

[ornate hamlet]

It's easy to use and safe to spam

[long zodiac]

maybe this one for a scriers

[ornate hamlet]

But yeah, for bigger problems it's not quite nice

It's the slow and steady staff to me

[inland crescent]

i really like the IV force staff against tox bursters. One little orb and they go tumbling

[ornate hamlet]

I have no idea which one that is

[inland crescent]

at first i loved plaing psyker with guns

but it seems troll in the late game

[harsh urchin]

Its alright

[dark swift]

Which one would be better?

[harsh urchin]

But psyker only has a few weapons the class has synergy with

So if you're trying to be effective you're limited to a few guns

[inland crescent]

not sure, some1 else gotta answer

[inland crescent]

with ones?

which*

[harsh urchin]

2, but the mk5 does about 30-40% less dmg than the mk4

So most people use mk4

[dark swift]

Ah kk, I got an MK4 already but wanted to build a collection of weapons I don't have yet. MK 5 is pretty good for defense

[harsh urchin]

Usually the revolver, laspistol, vraks3 and colum iag is what people use

[inland crescent]

revolver is really nice

i love it on my zealot aswell

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-more-bullets-epic-guy-i-love-big-weapons-pointing-gun-gif-3554821375821506405

[stone yoke]

the extended weapon customization mod is something else

psyker deimos now looks as hard as it hits

[ornate hamlet]

Gun psyker is perfectly viable on high difficulties

Dare I remind it's a class with a third weapon

[stone yoke]

voistrike psyker with the smite skill

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[ornate hamlet]

It's what made shredder psyker such a beast before, as well as the gun being busted

Perfectly

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[ornate hamlet]

Crit damage is an ass roll, but the blessings and flak are great

Shredder psyker used to be a class that had a melee weapon, a mid range gun and a long range wall-bending pocket sniper

[hasty jay]

any psyker build recommand?

[ornate hamlet]

Shredder psyker had no weaknesses in the past and accentuated the true strength of the class

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[ornate hamlet]

The fact it's versatile as all fuck

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[digital narwhal]

You just named a weapon and a Blitz Skill

We don't know what you expected us to understand from this context-less information, but

cool

[harsh urchin]

I mean i don't think your class mattered lol

Every class was insane with shredder

[ornate hamlet]

Well, yesb

[harsh urchin]

Because PF was just that broken

[digital narwhal]

Ascendant Blaze with PF was pretty funny though tbh

[ornate hamlet]

But the thing was that you could always snipe an enemy with infinite ammo

Because you always had BB

But now you can invert that

Revolver assail

Suddenly your blitz carpets an area and your gun is sniping specials

You have 3 slots to do 3 different things if you so wish

The other classes press G and get a consumable in their hands

You get infinite ammo magic

I always loved that about psyker

You could always weave your blitz into attacks instead of using it in emergencies

[fresh reef]

fuck it, no soulblaze for today

[vapid lichen]

i really like zealot's throwing knives because of how much more resuppliable they are

[ornate hamlet]

That too

[spice veldt]

I never realized how broken vets ammo economy was so I played Psyker constantly

free money and ammo

[ornate hamlet]

Knives can be really annoying sometimes, but it's basically a psyker blitz

[spice oar]

Free dolla??? +

[ornate hamlet]

Quiero dolario

[digital narwhal]

It'd be cool if Zealot Knives pulled out the Knives

Instead of just throwing it

So you can

Oh I dunno

adjust your aim

[ornate hamlet]

I think

[vapid lichen]

that'd probably add a forced animation to pulling out the knives similar to assail

which'd make them way less fluid to use

[ornate hamlet]

It'd be interesting to have a quick blitz button

[vapid lichen]

personally I love how it is, with how fast you can throw them, feels incredible

headshot rager with knife my beloved

[digital narwhal]

I mean, look at Revolver and Achlys Stubber
You can skip animations by aiming and/or shooting

[ornate hamlet]

You know how some shooters with quick melee allow you to equip the knife?

[digital narwhal]

Just make it like that for Knives

[spice veldt]

assail is near instantly actionable after swapping

[vapid lichen]

the funny cod underhand knife thing

we deserve to have it

[ornate hamlet]

Keep the current blitz swap

Add a key to quick primary blitz

[spice veldt]

it's just the firing animation that has an uninterruptible time of 0.2s for the first shard and 0.3s for the second

[ornate hamlet]

Fast knife, fast smite, fast assail

Fast grenade

Fast rock

[vapid lichen]

fast casts would be such good qol

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly I think it'd do wonders to the combat flow

[idle aurora]

New assail is so much better, after playing with it for some time, its in a very good spot. Not useless, but will also punish idiots who try to use it as main weapon

[ornate hamlet]

New assail is comfy to the point I don't feel like I'm missing out not getting cooldowm

N

[vapid lichen]

totally unrelated question, i read the curio section in the guide, is toughness regen speed actually that important
I havent been running it, but would i feel a tangible difference if I did

[ornate hamlet]

Yesn't

[fresh reef]

I have found a use for Warp Rupture

[spice veldt]

on Psyker, I vote no

[wicked walrus]

got this white from the hourly shop and ofc hadron bricks it

[fresh reef]

At the very end of Shriek's cone you won't deal suppression because the knockback is so low

but the 50ish damage that Rupture does apparently applies suppression

[slow raven]

godroll congrats

[fresh reef]

for some fucking reason

[ornate hamlet]

Running it on 3 curios is pretty fast, but it's something I learned to play without

I only use it on my loner zealot

[vapid lichen]

oh bc of the perma coherency, that's good

[ornate hamlet]

Ye

[vapid lichen]

ive been using combat ability regen but idk if it's actually doing anything so i was wondering if i should swap it

[ornate hamlet]

And I spend 2 points to raise it even more

For shriek and scrier I'd keep it

Shield isn't liberally used enough to warrant 12% cooldown to me

[vapid lichen]

that makes sense, thanks

[ornate hamlet]

I'll see what I got after I get home

Off the top of my head I can name revolver assail and IAG brain burst

Or 7d recon if you're a sociopath

Headhunters fall into assail to me

Shredder is a fat no

And I think that's actually all guns

Oh, laspistol

Laser weapons benefit from brain burst because of the carapace and bulwark damage

Headhunters struggle a bit with it but you can do knife or dueling sword with uncanny

[static needle]

Which staff should I use for nexus and flurry?

[ornate hamlet]

Revolver is just point and click whatever twat you want to ragdoll

It's like opening the console on Skyrim and typing kill

Make another staff to put nexus and flurry

[true vault]

Is smite a thing or is it nerfed to Bejesus and back ?

[ornate hamlet]

Smite is a thing

Funny stun for when times are dire and the ragers multiplied like rabbits

[true vault]

Maybe its because my team doesn't really watch my back that I am getting interrupted midway every cast

[ornate hamlet]

You might be casting too often

[true vault]

I was using it with Wrap Charges to get a feel for it.

[fresh reef]

the loner zealot is somehow outdamaging both of our ogryns

absolutely bonkers

[wooden edge]

which one is better for venting shriek, soulblaze or flat damage

[ornate hamlet]

Soulblaze

At high peril the poxwalkers die

You can fire and forget

[vapid lichen]

200 damage is like half the hp of a poxwalker isnt it

fkin sucks

[idle aurora]

I think poxers have 300 hp on damnation

[spice veldt]

groaners have 300, poxwalkers 375

[idle aurora]

Ah, so there's a difference, good to know

[spice veldt]

damn i'm starting to forget the patch 12 numbers for them

200 for groaners and 300 poxwalkers, so the relative difference between their hp did shrink
I guess they figured that giving poxwalkers more hitmass made the difference up

[cyan notch]

i remember

cuz i never played the new shit

[severe folio]

carnival is soooo laggy

[idle aurora]

Maybe servers are having a seizure

[fresh reef]

:/

[idle aurora]

But servers aside my game only had lag after the patch, when it rebuilt shaders

Legit had a 3 second freeze and then it slowly died down

[night crater]

Are there illegitimate freezes?

[solar sand]

my first 100

[long wharf]

not a milestone

because past 30 is irrelevant

[faint oriole]

yrd

[faint oriole]

your irrelevent

[long wharf]

you gotta try harder than that

[faint oriole]

not worth it

you just a hater always gotta be punching down

[long wharf]

well, at least you recognize your position

[faint oriole]

? doesnt make sense

thats like saying, I know what you are but what am I? lol

[long wharf]

oh you sweet summer child

perhaps you can ask your mommy what it means

[faint oriole]

discord people be like

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/leorio-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-leorio-stare-gif-22601910

[bleak tulip]

why you bein like this

[cobalt wraith]

any brain burst builds? specifically for malleus monstronum?

[restive slate]

His irrelevant what?

[restive slate]

More of a teammate issue there, psychic shriek and fast brain burst on ability helps

You can avoid soulblaze to avoid damaging the boss too much

[waxen abyss]

is the game telling me i should do a lmb crit build?

[fallen zodiac]

[onyx sentinel]

Haven’t been following recent hotfixes, how is the surge staff? Are there any new changes for us?

As in does the surge staff still target limbs

[restive slate]

Last I heard its fixed

Tbh all non Vet classes are in really good spots atm

[waxen abyss]

i think vet is in a good spot balance wise, but I think people just find the builds too restrictive?

[haughty schooner]

does the surge blessing mean it shoots out two chain lightnings extra if your initial cast crits?

[waxen abyss]

i don't think surge blessing applies to any secondary attacks, just lmb

[restive slate]

In comparison to the other 3? Nope

[haughty schooner]

so if you shoot one left click out and it crits, it instantly launches 2 more lil balls?

[restive slate]

There's no Surge Blessing for Surge Staff

[haughty schooner]

oh i read surge and thought it was a surge staff

mb

[waxen abyss]

when crit happens it shoots another shot

and yeah no it's a trauma staff

[waxen abyss]

vet still has PS PC4, kraks/frags, the funny ammo passive, decent gun weapon options, the very good shout combat ability, idk it feels nice but i'm a noob so i'm not saying this as fact just my thoughts

Oops wrong @ message but you get the idea

[fallen zodiac]

sort of but not really. afaik, the damage is normalized across body parts, but it still targets random body parts. So it'll hit different armor

"the damage will be normalized" = still targeting random parts

[waxen abyss]

I wonder what build I should do for this funny trauma LMB crit build. ... is the answer scrier? lmao

surely not

[spice veldt]

yeah, vet feels fine besides the bloated tree and whatnot

i'm sure there's more to be said with regards to balancing and fine-tuning, but I do think that people like to overstate how bad something is

especially in the post-patch 12 era

[waxen abyss]

Yeah like I think it feels bad to make vet builds

so even if they're good, it doesn't feel good? that's the impression i get

[feral wharf]

hey im new here where can i put in a ticket for a discovered class exploit

[spice veldt]

either on the forums https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/
or here https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/requests/new

[feral wharf]

thanks

[compact onyx]

do I save this for later to slap another blessing or just take the precognition blessing and start all over again?

[stone yoke]

ive finally found out why so many people love the purg

it can parry dogs

[fallen zodiac]

purg stagger is so good

[stone yoke]

i can just give a dog an incendiary boop and it sits down

[fallen zodiac]

you can stagger everything except crushers, reapers, and monstrosities afaik

[stone yoke]

it melts nurgle beasts

[minor juniper]

Quick question is Helenica a good zelot name

[stone yoke]

i named mine after a meme, im a mighty mage named Catan, with the unspoken title of The Settelr

[chilly mantle]

No. Princess Bashy Bits

/jk

[waxen abyss]

Lol trauma lmb scrier crit might be kinda fun? idk

[long wharf]

What did you find?

[clear coyote]

is rampage good on the duelist sword?

[pine nova]

what should I reroll?

[feral wharf]

1 shot literally everything minus boss

super high dmg on boss

[long wharf]

How is that an exploit?

[waxen abyss]

~~only way to trigger it if you use the MK4 is to use lmb. Doesn't really synergize with its gameplay style imo.

if you use the other duelist sabers because you want to it can synergize better~~

note i'm still a noob

[feral wharf]

its ez mode

[waxen abyss]

just me thoughts

[spice veldt]

i run rampage on modes except melee/monstrosity maelstrom

since it's still bugged to give 2.04x damage

[stone yoke]

purg is really good against dogs, an apparently can instantly stagger ragers too

[waxen abyss]

so many bugs lol damn it

[spice veldt]

trust no one

[stone yoke]

this shit slaps on malice

[waxen abyss]

this game is heretical

[fallen zodiac]

it slaps on damnation too

[fallen zodiac]

both perks to maniac and unyielding or flak

[stone yoke]

its horrible on uprising and below because thers just not enough shit to light on fire

well that run went to shit, the zealots were gun zealots and we had no front liners

[half iron]

yo my build slaps on low intensity sedition

[stone yoke]

lmao

[hearty oak]

Whens power cycler blessing for force swords?

[stone yoke]

i think its already a thing, but i really want deflector

[hearty oak]

Its not but it would be great for force swords

give dueling swords a competition

[spice veldt]

power cycler is a blight upon this world for balancing

i wish to not see it for the force swords

[stone yoke]

dueling swords already have competition, these things hit like a truck and have amazing emotional response

i feel good when i hit a charged warp strike on a boss and wipe out a sixth of its health

[bronze hound]

Everyone using dueling and force swords

I'm using devil's claw 🙂

[hearty oak]

Balance is for the heretics

[vapid lichen]

i have a 544 devil's claw on my vet and it is fucking beautiful

[clear coyote]

devils claw is the only weapon i cant get into

[bronze hound]

Why??

[half iron]

it’s not the stub revolver that’s why

[clear coyote]

feels to slow and not enough dmg

[bronze hound]

I can buy the not enough dmg but slow???

Can deal great amounts of dmg tho

[clear coyote]

it doesnt stimulate my zeolot adhd gotta go fast neurons enough

but it also isnt a thunderhammer

[bronze hound]

I use it on my zealot too and it's lovely. Great weapon for a crit/parry build

[clear coyote]

dang

[bronze hound]

I might try purgatus. Not being easy to get used to the new surge reality

[fallen zodiac]

do it, its really fun

laugh as u staggerlock a pack of ragers

[bronze hound]

Left click spam, isn't it?

[fallen zodiac]

yeah, left click has more stagger. but right click can build stagger too

[misty cypress]

swap unarmored for crit chance?

[stone yoke]

the purg staff is only good when it actually outputs fire

[bronze hound]

I miss the bugged surge

[potent echo]

Unarmored let's you oneshot dreg gunners

Depends if you care about it or not

[bleak tulip]

you can one shot em anyway you just gotta charge more

[potent echo]

No you can't

Unless you crit ofc

[bleak tulip]

which you do all the fucking time anyway

[potent echo]

Unarmored head shot is like 1100 ballpark

They have 1400 hp

So you need around 25%~ buff

[stone yoke]

i just set them on fire

[potent echo]

Warp rider perfect timing etc

[stone yoke]

although these cultists are surprisingly fuckless about being set on fire, they power right through

unless the spray is actively on them, then they stand in place

[bleak tulip]

which you also get very easily unless you run EP like a pleb

that's prob what got me confused

either way imo you don't need unarmoured

[potent echo]

Usually it's for alpha striking a dreg patrol

[bleak tulip]

have stacks of your choice and have like 50% peril, donezo

[ornate hamlet]

All I know is

The "at least 3 hours" turned into almost 6

Astaghfirullah ☝️

[bleak tulip]

second shot+ you also have perfect timing

[potent echo]

I run flurry surge and don't run crit chance so I just trying out different perks

[bleak tulip]

oh also with DD you get more weakspot damage too

which is how you go bowling

[potent echo]

Yea I run DD

[bleak tulip]

think you can still one shot crushers sometimes if the stars align with dd

though I haven't tested it, I just could swear it happens on occasion in matches

even without +cara

[potent echo]

I haven't really investigated that BP

[severe folio]

this is a good one

actually nvm its not

terrible perks, precognition ehh

all round bricked

[severe folio]

Riposte

but both of your perks kinda mid

and your finesse is kinda low

you should take tht uncanny for a future one

[fallen zodiac]

easier to control a large group with left click, but right click still works if there's less or you can funnel them through a tight space

[severe folio]

you need to mix between left click with right click

so that they not only stagger but also die faster

[waxen abyss]

I have fallen in love with crit lmb trauma staff just messing with it in psykanium lol

[ornate hamlet]

Turns out the value is piss shit low compared to the right tree buff

[sick light]

Would be worth it to trade shriek for shield in a purgatus build?

[neon bobcat]

Do people ever take the sub nodes of Smite or nah? not sure if either of them are worth it

[waxen abyss]

doing a quick discord search apparently Enfeeble might be slightly bugged in some way, too? not sure

[ornate hamlet]

Depends on what you want

[waxen abyss]

Doing a discord search I think smite's extra talents (enfeeble and lightning storm) still work with Surge staff?

people were talking about this this month so i assume it still works

game is so buggy lol

[wheat quartz]

what does lightning surge even do with smite, +1 target isn't a lot given how many it already hits

assuming we aren't taking it just for the surge staff

[waxen abyss]

well i'm in psykanium so i'll test it out real fast or something

been goofing around with trying to make a crit lmb trauma staff after i rolled this

[ornate hamlet]

I imagined +1 target is +1 chain to each target it hits

As in if it hits 5 and chains to 5, it can chain to another 5

[severe folio]

if you want to lmb with crit you should use the Surge staff

[severe folio]

im pretty sure none of the smite talent affect surge staff anymore

and depend some people do take it some people do not

[waxen abyss]

I thought the surge staff did not have the surge blessing. Is the surge staff better at the lmb crit despite not having surge blesssing? or was that misinformation.

[tawdry pasture]

[severe folio]

the surge blessing doesnt increase crit so first of all having surge blessing doesnt make lmb of any staff better at critting

secondly yes the surge staff have a very high crit chance

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, it makes its crit damage technically better

[waxen abyss]

But what about dps?

that's the end goal

[severe folio]

well

[ornate hamlet]

It just has to be weighed whether the lowered crit chance with double shot makes up for it or not

[severe folio]

you are talking about using LMB

with surge

blessing

i dont think dps is the conversation you are in

because

this is just gimmick now, youre not going to squeeze out a lot of dps out of lmb

[waxen abyss]

I can't actually figure out what the smite +1 chain Lightning Storm talent does while messing in the psykhanium

[upbeat parcel]

just targets one extra target I thought?

[waxen abyss]

OK i understand now

[waxen abyss]

The lightning storm +1 chain makes it so held LMB smite hits 2 people at the start instead of 1. this speeds up spread of smite to other nearby/behind targets.

Doesn't really seem to do anything to smite RMB

[fallen zodiac]

yes, ive been trying out purg w bb + shield and its been nice.

[potent echo]

Purg really likes shriek

Shield let's you be defensive but I don't play purg defensively

[fallen zodiac]

shield lets me stop my teammates from dying, the silly guys

[potent echo]

If you see a horde of gunners you don't shield up and cry, you just dive in

[fallen zodiac]

ZEALOT PSYKER

[potent echo]

With a better flamer

[fallen zodiac]

[spice veldt]

SHANK THEM IN THE EYESOCKETS

[minor juniper]

What do you think is the least chosen personality for Psyker?

[waxen abyss]

male enforcer guy, I think?

[fallen zodiac]

least chosen of what? oh personality

[wheat quartz]

enforcer guy

see loads of seers and loners

[waxen abyss]

Female Loner is a bit rare

but male enforcer probably more rare

[minor juniper]

What do you mean its in the question?

[fallen zodiac]

u said "personaly" and i didnt think very hard

[fallen zodiac]

yay i did it

[minor juniper]

Sorry mate

[half iron]

if they’re not crazy they’re not chosen

[spice veldt]

i'd pick enforcer too because people seem to grow really tired of his lines

male enforcer, at least

not sure about female enforcer lines

[fallen zodiac]

female enforcer at leaast has the french thing going for her

[half iron]

i see the non-beloved crazy psyker the least.
first it’s seer, then beloved, then just crazy

[digital narwhal]

I love my Male Savant Psyker

Dude’s just grounded and appreciates the people around him

He’s got some nice friendly lines with others too

[urban sandal]

always see savant and male seer psykers, barely anyone uses female seer

[digital narwhal]

It’s also nice that all three Vet voices seem comfortable with Savant

Likely because he’s the most similar to the Vets of anyone else around tbh

[bitter veldt]

what's the recommended upgrade for this purgatus stuff? Carapace > Crit and Upgrade Warp Nexus to IV?

[digital narwhal]

Yeah imo

[fallen zodiac]

carapce -> crit chance

[digital narwhal]

Carapace to Crit and Warp Nexus to T4, ye

[bitter veldt]

sounds good

[potent echo]

honstly its not even needed to alternate, just lmb is good enough

but yea great job

[fallen zodiac]

yeah the kill time didnt really change

but i felt cooler lol

[echo turtle]

People need to stop crutching on smite so hard, I just finished a game with a lvl 400 psyker that did 1/2 of the damage I dealt out, just smiting away instead of killing stuff

[flat moat]

is assail a good blitz to run with the surge staff or should I stick with bb?

[potent echo]

if they run staff with smite, its really hard to play normally

[potent echo]

definitely assail

surge and bb share the same role

[flat moat]

and smite?

[potent echo]

smite surge both eat too much peril

[flat moat]

which of these two is worth picking?

[potent echo]

pick pierce for sure

regen too probably

smite works well with gun because you can smite then immediately start shooting after the push, guns also have the power to punch through hordes to hit specials/elite

[spice veldt]

i am reminded that talents occasionally do exactly what the description says

[echo turtle]

I run BB with surge, for the free brain burst procs

[spice veldt]

brings a tear to my eyes

[potent echo]

sometimes the localisation guy gets it right

[spice veldt]

ethereal shards bumps assail's target limit from 2 to 3, so it's pretty neat

[wheat quartz]

lightning surge seems to do nothing for the surge staff anymore

win for consistency?

[wild sage]

the best surge build is still surge smite

Surge, smite, venting shriek, warp charges.

[wheat quartz]

yeah charges/shriek/smite/surge is what I currently use for auric damnation quickplay

just, I get a point or two back

[wild sage]

I skip the talent for 10% damage, it's still bugged and even if it wasn't I don't think it's worth taking

if that's Lightning Surge

[wheat quartz]

no that's enfeeble

lightning surge is the +1 target

[wild sage]

it was a bug that that had affected surge before so yeah it's gone

[severe folio]

carapace to maniac

[severe folio]

YEAAAAAAHHHHH

[severe folio]

alternative between allow you to kill more in a mixed horde

[potent echo]

yea depends on the situation

[waxen abyss]

Plus it’s probably more engaging to do than lmb spam forever

[potent echo]

true

[severe folio]

it kills faster

[fallen zodiac]

this tho. i had a game w two ppl playing taser tag w the enemies the whole game T-T

[waxen abyss]

The best support is killing

I’m still pretty new but I imagine best use of smite is occasional RMBs when swarmed, and rare LMB when there’s a huge pack of bulwarks or something you can trap with one smite lmb

Or a funny ep smite build idk

[fallen zodiac]

stalling elite packs is great

stalling horde trash is GROSS

purg staff > smite

:)

[potent echo]

dont spread that around too much or the devs gonna nerf purg next

[waxen abyss]

Yeah I was talking about using rmb against an elite swarm specifically

Better to kill them

But if it’s an emergency rmb smite feels pretty fast

[potent echo]

or just venting shriek

ep smite is suffering

might as well go keystoneless psyker

[waxen abyss]

I’ve never tried it but it sounds very finicky

Will probably try it one day if I ever get a good surge staff, for the memes

Or ep smite becomes buff

[potent echo]

surge or smite

[wanton sandal]

never forget that releasing the smite early knocks down everyone you have stunned

except for those with high poise ofc

[potent echo]

its really strange, dreg shotgunner gets knocked down, but scab shotgunner stays standing

[echo turtle]

Exactly this

Killing them is permanent CC

I just tried out taking 6 charges with perfect timing on a surge venting shriek build. It felt great getting +40% damage and -36% peril generation

[wanton sandal]

scab #1

[vestal tree]

Is it just me or does the void staff stuff feel boring

[echo turtle]

It's not just you

[wanton sandal]

its eh

[potent echo]

i actually like it alot

[vestal tree]

Like I would rather force lightning, if it did any damage

[wanton sandal]

i used to love it, but now im in love with surge

[potent echo]

if you play with DD its kind of funky and challenging

[echo turtle]

Surge does lots

[potent echo]

but im a purg main so anything that requires aiming is already fun

[wanton sandal]

have u not played post-patch surge

rather post-hotfix

[vestal tree]

Nah, tell me about the funni

[echo turtle]

I am running surge and did 820k damage, next highest player dealing damage was 450k

[wanton sandal]

does nutty damage now, go test it in psykanium

[echo turtle]

It does tons of damage

[vestal tree]

Any excuse to not use void

[echo turtle]

Surge, shriek, creeping flames, warp siphon

That's the bones of the build, and it crushes

[vestal tree]

Shriek?

I'll give it a try

[echo turtle]

Yup

Creeping flames on it

Wildfire I like, and the one that procs fire on spelites kill

[vestal tree]

I did the omega sweaty Boi, which was crit headpop void

[wanton sandal]

if i wasn't a coward that always puts down shields for my team as psyker i'd try that build

[echo turtle]

I ran that with two level 300+ psykers in a game. I had double the damage of either of them

Don't need to hide in a shield if ur killing everything

Surge with damage talents and + maniac pops flamers and trappers like water ballons

[potent echo]

shield is a trap

creeping just kills all the shooters

[echo turtle]

The staff also procs the free brain bursts all the time, basically on cooldown

Shield is fine, I would take it if I ran void

Or even purgatus

[vestal tree]

@echo turtle this tree working?

[echo turtle]

That will work though I would alter a few things

Unless you are running 6+ stam you absolutely need kinetic deflection

Brain burst needs only 1 point for free procs, faster cast on special activation is a waste as you pretty much never want to be using brain burst

+10% toughness Regen for the party is a dead point remove that too

Grab perfect timing and mettle, those will get you more damage, speed and Regen from your crits

Swap warp siphons 10% on soul blaze to 4% on any kill

Swap 2.5% healed toughness on peril generation to 5% healed on quell

I would take the cool down reduction over 5% damage to elite aura, and I would grab empathic evasion if possible

The surge staff has a 40% crit rate at high peril, the ability will proc a lot, it isnt necessary but it may keep you alive

Make sure you have a deflector force sword

Surge blessings are Nexus/flurry. Flak/maniac

[vestal tree]

empathic is kinda out of the way

I lose warp rider if I do

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I fit both

Warp rider is mandatory

[vestal tree]

Should I rip out soulstealer?

[echo turtle]

No, I think I mentioned all the stuff to rip out

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which staff are you runing with this?

purg?

[echo turtle]

Surge

You can drop empathic if taking Kinetic deflectoon

[vestal tree]

aight

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you think Kinetic flayer works on surge?

its a bit random, innit?

on faster firing things like purg or columnus gunker I can understand taking it, but it's just as likely to pop a poxwalker than anything else

[vestal tree]

It looking like this

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no perfect timing

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he definitely said to take KF

[echo turtle]

This is how I run it.

I take +6 stam via curios block efficiency and +2 stam on sword to give up KD

[potent echo]

wrong reply pft

[echo turtle]

So that's a baseline, feel free to tweak from there

But you see what I am working with

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i rather drop flayer to get 5% crit

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for sure

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also empathic on surge is quite ehhh

[echo turtle]

Naw flayer is way better

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could also drop wildfire

[vestal tree]

Also, I need a good cope for... surge

[potent echo]

take KD or extra 15 toughness

yea also drop wildfire

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your main source of soulfire is shout and that's evaporating rooms anyways

[potent echo]

if you are not taking fire reborn no point with wildfire

[echo turtle]

People say that, but I am getting huge damage in game with this

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I also like faster brain burst on shout but that's also because I get grouped with mouthbreathers that don't know what specials are

you get huge damage without

[echo turtle]

80 flayer procs is going to get you like 100k damage

Which is 1/3 alone what most of the psykers get that roll into games

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on poxwalkers though

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Taking 5% crit over that is a mistake

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80% of the time

[echo turtle]

Naw, its nailing elites a lot

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100k damage but you cant control where it goes

it might go onto an already dead elite

it might go into an already dead special

it might go into an already dead horde

[echo turtle]

I can see it in game get a lot of elites

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sure, that's when you remember it

confirmation bias

[potent echo]

so its just 100k worth of damage padding

if you want yellow numbers, sure

[echo turtle]

Well, This is the build I run and I get double what people are getting rolling into aurics

[ornate hamlet]

Flayer is a bad talent tbh

[vestal tree]

HOLY FUCKUINBG SHUIT

SUYRGE

SURGE

[echo turtle]

So something I do is working well

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I pretty much only take KF on gunker for boss murdering

[ornate hamlet]

It's not that it doesn't work, it's just that RNG on something like that just sucks

[potent echo]

yea working well doesnt mean its good

[vestal tree]

THANK THE EMPEROR

[potent echo]

i can work well with recon gunker too

[echo turtle]

People here like to tell me how wildfire and brain burst is bad, then roll into games and deal no damage

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well i hate you people

and congrats

[ornate hamlet]

There's instances where it saves you and instances where oopsie you just flayed the poxwalker before shooting the crusher

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you bitch

[vestal tree]

UwU?

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you've never grouped with me, so don't talk about my damage

[vestal tree]

I spent like a solid 2k before getting it, so I'm lucky

[echo turtle]

this is my last game, so I would say the talents I suggest work just fine

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428k overkill damage

point

proven

[echo turtle]

that is seperate from total damage

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that's your kinetic flayer procing

[echo turtle]

800k damage, and 400k overkill

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100%

[echo turtle]

naw

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sur eis

[echo turtle]

no