psyker-class

[unreal axle]

Cassia when

[glossy ember]

sounds good, will give a shot

i do miss the extra range on sohut..

[half iron]

i, john fatshark, would replace vets with psykogryns if given the chance

[bright mica]

I run this on my Very Silly Slab + Mk6 Ripper build. Off-meta but I hard carry every Auric

Btw with slab you NEED Brutal Momentum + 25% Flak

Absolutely necesssary everything else you dgaf about

[glossy ember]

oh don't worry about my shield

[bright mica]

okay good good

[glossy ember]

it's as close as it gets to a god roll

[bright mica]

I've found this to be eh on Shield

but ye shield on Stormbrute absolutely fucks

[slow raven]

that one is skippable, but it does feel nice so i take it

[unreal axle]

what is Stormbrute?

[bright mica]

with a BM build you don't need bleed for horde-clear

[glossy ember]

25 flak/unarmoured, bm4, sc3, 78/79/80/62/80

[slow raven]

it makes your heavies come out just a bit more smooth which i enjoy

[bright mica]

Basically a shorthand for a Point-Blank Barrage build that is still very good at melee

[slow raven]

probably wouldnt affect me much to drop it but i see it as qol

[glossy ember]

still a dps increase

so i took it

[bright mica]

oh yeah ofc

I just can't fit it on my stormbrute build loool

[strong gulch]

Surge trying to moonlight as purg.

[bright mica]

Btw.

[unreal axle]

maybe I'll have to look into it, I just run full survivability, middle tree, taunt on block, bleed on heavies, bleed on charge, bleeding enemies reduce damage taken with shield and rippergun

[bright mica]

Due to Skullbreaker, Slam can often do more DPS than Soften Them Up on Slab

[glossy ember]

how so, i did not see a change in staggering enemies with or without slam when using shield

[bright mica]

As long as you have BM + Flak you don't need to go Heavy Hitter assuming you went Bone Breaker aura.

[bright mica]

Just check it on Crushers in Psyckanium. Your mileage may vary

[glossy ember]

don't think you can one shot bruiser heads without one stack of HH can you

[bright mica]

You can

on my Stormbrute build I cant get aura

but on other builds I can skip HH

[glossy ember]

aight i'll check it out in a bit

[bright mica]

Probably smth like this would work well on you, although I actually rarely run Loyal Protector on shield since Attention Seeker carries

[unreal axle]

I really like the charge, I could run taunt for more party support but bleeding all enemies and them making me much tankier is fun

[bright mica]

I run this for slab + ripper

FnP is awesome cus you rlly just need 1 node

well,arguably same with Heavy Hitter

[unreal axle]

too many acronyms I know what nothing is xD

[bright mica]

Feel No Pain, middle keystone

gives you big boy toughness reduction :P

You wanna run FnP on most builds, Heavy Hitter is nice but between 25% more damage or 25% damage reduction I'd want the latter

HH is nice for reaching certain breakpoints which is why I use it on my stormbrute

[glossy ember]

492 dps with soften em up vs 445 dps with slam on average on crusher

[plucky flax]

Big boy tanky.

I can 3 heavies a crusher without carapace

[strong gulch]

Love seeing a 500+ hp big fren.

[plucky flax]

Thiicc

Need the thickness to block vets shots.

[frail sand]

max height ogryn be like

[bright mica]

honestly varies for me, sometimes slam procs more stacks of scrusher for me resulting in higher DPS on crushers

that said run whatever blitz you want, thats more important

[hasty kraken]

Hehehehe

Time for Hadron to brick it~~~~

[glossy ember]

you were right, huh.

i really didn't feel a diff without it

[bright mica]

ye its kinda overrated, its a node that helps in situations where you'd be alright anyway

the single target one fucks tho

[glossy ember]

yea

[frail sand]

i have yet to find a 0% blast radius voidstrike

i am curious what the ball will be like

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-ballin-dragon-ball-z-nba-2k19-gif-20993953

[hasty kraken]

A tennis ball

Just a tennis ball

[glossy ember]

melk might be cooking?

[primal blade]

he might be cookin

hey guys any idea on how to improve these two talent trees ? i got them with illisi and voidstrike

[quasi junco]

kinetic flayer sucks, use the other one for brain burst

[glossy ember]

this works on staff special attacks btw

makes your staff attack go from 100 to 160 damage

192 on a crit

[potent echo]

why

[potent echo]

both are like kind of poo

[glossy ember]

204 damage with 6 warp stacks

[potent echo]

is that

brutal momentum

[glossy ember]

no that's limbsplitter

60% more power

except permanant for some reason

[potent echo]

yea but the staff has

no cleave falloff

[glossy ember]

yeah

[potent echo]

strongest weapon??

[glossy ember]

that's without brutal momentum

so if you add both...

[quasi junco]

? Lol no its not, pop ability and go ham with BB

[strong gulch]

Void strike and BB have a lot of overlap. Agree on switching out kinetic flayer.

Smite does well for when a thicc wave of enemies gets close.

Wildfire doesn't work well if PC is your only soulblaze source.

[primal blade]

instead of psychic vampire
in fire reborn ?

[potent echo]

yea but you dont really want to use BB after you F

usually your staff will do more

[quasi junco]

flayer is a BB upgrade node, not warp charge

[primal blade]

oh yea

derp

KF has been my main source of brain burst on this build ngl

[quasi junco]

The idea is to pop ability and go ham with BB when you want to spam BB, like for monstrosities or big baddies far away

[primal blade]

voidstrike into a blob and things go pop

[strong gulch]

What is the voidstike build?

Are you running surge or different blessings.

[primal blade]

i wish i had surge and warp nexus

[plucky flax]

No warp rider

[primal blade]

but fuckin hadron

[potent echo]

yea but the value isnt really there to spend 1 entire talent point on it, i rather have extra toughness

than the niche situation where i need 5 more BR on some far away crusher

[quasi junco]

You don't understand BB and its mechanics, thats OK

[summer prairie]

if you actually want to use BB, kinetic resonance is absolutely worth

[strong gulch]

Been playing since beta and I finally got surge two weeks ago. So I feel ya

[potent echo]

i like when people have no answer they just say no u

[plucky flax]

[quasi junco]

Picking toughness over a huge charge time decrease on a blitz, rofl

[strong gulch]

BB + modifier + EP if you're maining BB.

[potent echo]

i would say its good for boss dps if the team only has to deal with a boss

[quasi junco]

i play trauma/blaze, so the ability to snipe far away things is nice

[plucky flax]

Me running bb without any sub talent and I even forget I have bb equipped since staff left click does a better job

[potent echo]

but usually you would just melee if the boss is focused on you, or you would just handle hordes/specials while the other classes fight the boss

[strong gulch]

I have BB on my blaze trauma for an easier time getting snipers, but the modifiers are not worth it on that build

[sudden stratus]

stub revolver

[potent echo]

it used to be popular in pre13 because you only had 2 choices for level30 talents

[primal blade]

ngl i just wanted to use BB since i don't really like smite

and well ._. i've had experiences with assail

[potent echo]

also it used to be faster i think

[strong gulch]

Even un-upgraded BB has surprisingly decent boss DPS.

But if that is being relied upon for the teams highest boss DPS, it's going to take awhile.

[plucky flax]

I salute the person at fs whom made staff left click super fast. Thank you for your service

[strong gulch]

truly. Thank you.

[plucky flax]

(Because I suck at quell cancel left click)

[strong gulch]

I like that you can still animation cancel for even faster balls, but it's not super needed.

I am inconsistent with LMB quell cancel, so I am also bad.

[plucky flax]

I was hoping for surge fix for this weekend.

Guess not

Wake me up when it's surge fix time

[sinful moth]

Does anybody know if the warp battery challenge is bugged? I know it needs to be done on heresy but Im keeping track in my head and I feel like I should have it.

[primal blade]

so if i want to play support psyker or at least keep playing support psyker

should i just bite the bullit and go smite or is BB saveable for a build using bubble ?

i wish games lantern would let ya filter by blitz , ability and keystone

[sinful moth]

OH GOD ITS CONSECUTIVE NVMD

[potent echo]

I heard some people completed it, not sure if they have 4 or 6 charges

[tiny saffron]

which duelist saber is the best?

[potent echo]

Mk4 has the highest damage

Mk5 has the best dodge

[tiny saffron]

I'd roll dmg i guess

Best blessings?

[potent echo]

Uncanny strike

[tiny saffron]

yeah i was looking at that

thats pretty pimped

[potent echo]

The other can be any thing, riposte shred precog

Rampage if you plan to fight hordes with it

But I wouldn't recommend it

[tiny saffron]

i think i'd go riposte or precog

thanks for the help fam

[potent echo]

Depends on what you get, it's quite forgiving in that sense

[tiny saffron]

that transfer peril seems pretty good on the staves

I'm only running the trauma force staff for now, i'd have to try the others out as i unlock them i guess

[potent echo]

It's kind of bugged to only give one instance of quelling

Also the quelling takes place over a period of time, casting staff again will cancel the quell

[severe folio]

take

[summer prairie]

Transfer peril can definitely trigger more than once per cast

Void used to have larger epicenter, probably why they increased it from 5 to 8

Maybe they also did something to its weakspot priority

[strong gulch]

Heard people say that warp battery needs to be done with 6 charges (even if 4 is your max).

[plucky flax]

You can use bb with ep. Can have stacks forever on elites.

[summer prairie]

On some elites

[glossy ember]

idek if i have enough milk tokens

i been buying random lv4 blessings off him for the sticker collection

[primal blade]

am guessing

EP with
Overpowering souls
Psychic Leeching
Charged Up

[plucky flax]

Okay I am lost.

No idea what os pl and cu are.

[glossy ember]

rip

[strong gulch]

Make a new character, level them enough to get weeklies, and grind out those melk monies.

[primal blade]

makes more sense ?

[glossy ember]

yeah thats what im doing

doing melk missions rn on my other chars

[strong gulch]

Best wishes

[plucky flax]

I actually don't know talent names xd

Take the right side of ep.

[clear bear]

yeah

[royal granite]

psychic leeching is kinda bad

[plucky flax]

I never take the middle one.

Is that toughness regen?

[royal granite]

yeah

[glossy ember]

once i finish this one i can get the purg staff

[plucky flax]

Yeah pick soulstealer instead.

[primal blade]

15% toughness for you and in coherency while using blitz

[royal granite]

the only blitz that even makes effective use of it is assail, but even then it's pretty rare

[strong gulch]

Do you have to complete the bb animation to get the toughness?

Or can you just repeatedly pinch your fingies together?

[quasi junco]

is it just me or is everyone and their moms using purg staff?

[royal granite]

have to spend the EP

[quasi junco]

I rarely see anything else

[royal granite]

i believe

[vapid lichen]

it's probably dependent on consuming the EP stack

[royal granite]

yeah, no, yeah it is

[plucky flax]

No I rarely see purg.

[royal granite]

if you didn't have to spend the EP stack you could have infinite toughness by just spamming right click on brain burst

[glossy ember]

i almost only see voidstaffs

[quasi junco]

I love purg, but I won't take purg if another is, two purgs = you have failed the emperor

[royal granite]

and we would definitely have heard about that by now

[vapid lichen]

i played a match with three psykers earlier today and two of us had trauma

[plucky flax]

Maybe I should make meme purg bb ep build.

[vapid lichen]

i had blaze trauma and they had rending trauma

[royal granite]

but what staffs were you using?

staves

whatever

[vapid lichen]

surge for the third

[quasi junco]

blaze trauma is goated rn

[vapid lichen]

we held that chokepoint on carnival so fucking good

[strong gulch]

Do it. I've been thinking about doing one. Or maybe I have one and forgot.

[umbral helm]

ran an auric maelstrom with my buddy last night where we both used purga, was fun. two zealots with us also held their own pretty damn well though

[quasi junco]

getting 1k crits on the scoreboard at the end is $$

[vapid lichen]

the surge staff psyker was also smite spamming at the end

[plucky flax]

Aye since I am withdrawal while waiting for surge f ix.

Might as well meme it up even more.

[vapid lichen]

the poor zealot kept running out to get some melee hits in because nothing could get past double trauma aoes and smite

[strong gulch]

You live off of memes. It is food.

[royal granite]

what's wrong with surge right now?

[glossy ember]

you gotta take unarmoured perk on your staff

[worn wedge]

can I use my lightning staff again?

[glossy ember]

cuz it can randomly still hit diff armor parts

even if the base damage is the same

[summer prairie]

EP doesn't speed up BB stunning speed, too bad

[primal blade]

i wish i could have shield with venting shriek ~^~ cuz the soulblaze is fun

but the shield is so much more useful

[summer prairie]

If Warp Expenditure gave you toughness even when you generate peril at 100%, it would be good

goodish

[brave vale]

I know gun psyker is a meme but this looks good

[plucky flax]

Wait ep bb doesn't even 1 shot rager.

[glass forge]

Do dueling swords naturally block with less stamina used?

[summer prairie]

does 1 shot dreg rager

[primal blade]

welp these are the slightly changed up

[plucky flax]

Yeah not scab

This might be a struggle. Xd

[primal blade]

anything any of you would change up on these ?

[strong gulch]

If PC is your only source of soulblaze, I wouldn't take wildfire.

[ornate shale]

is that any good?

[primal blade]

what would you recommend instead ?

i could add true aim to the bb build

or battle meditation

[plucky flax]

Woo ep bb can 1 shot mutie.

[strong gulch]

Yes.

But right now surge hits random armor types, so flak and unarmored are the preferred perks. You could buy it then wait for a fix; but idk when that will be or what form it will take.

Crit chance is still nice tho

[plucky flax]

That's kinda op.

Wait nvm.

[summer prairie]

flayer proc?

[plucky flax]

No it was damaged by combustion earlier. Xd

(It was a crit bb )

[strong gulch]

true aim is def better.

[clear light]

worth? never used blaze swords

[cosmic sigil]

someone? knowing i probably won't touch a staff

[plucky flax]

Barebone as in no assail sub talents?

[ornate shale]

thank you. Fresh lvl 30 so anything goes

[strong gulch]

Some still like obscurus. That one is worth it for an obscurus. I haven't used one forever so I couldn't tell you.

[summer prairie]

why does BB have only 3 dodges and assail and smite 4

[plucky flax]

I would highly advise taking the assail sub talents. You can choose your ability from here then goes down to ep.

[cosmic sigil]

nah i take all assail sub

[strong gulch]

Oh then for sure grab it. It's probably quite the upgrade and it isn't often that melk has something that good.

[plucky flax]

I would also recommend taking tru aims.

It boost assail damage by quite a lot.

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, that's my intention too

i was not sure about what to take up top

what is a must have and what is nice to have

[plucky flax]

Perfect timing for more damage. Soulstealer for toughness regen with assail.

[vapid lichen]

is it even worth taking that soulblaze node with no support for it

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's a 1 point investment.

Since you are taking soulstealer anyway.

[strong gulch]

true aim too with assail (that's below tho)

[vapid lichen]

true

[strong gulch]

If it's thicc with elites and specials, PC adds up.

[plucky flax]

Time to bb ep meme.

[strong gulch]

🎉

Not building into warp siphon feels like I have so many free points.

[vestal fulcrum]

You need to have some peril/benefit from Warp Rider in order to do so IIRC

like... slightly above 40%, closer to 50% (~46 is a "sweetspot"?)

[vapid lichen]

i miss the free 10% from warp rider

[primal blade]

honestly the free 10% wasn't too troublesome but it was free damage so

as much as i disagree with it

[plucky flax]

First game with this meme

Failed Xd

[plucky flax]

I lasted 5 mins but couldn't clutch it.

[vestal fulcrum]

Also Scab Rager is generally not impressed by BB, you can't kill it in one cast

[strong gulch]

Spot on. I was able to do it at 41% with ep warp rider.

[strong gulch]

noooo

[vestal fulcrum]

~46 seems right on my build - I may be missing a ranged damage node to do it at slightly lower peril

Perfect Timing stacked can also slightly alter the threshold

[strong gulch]

Oh right. All of my weapons have 25% maniac on them

[clear bear]

honestly, bb/shield/ep is basically what i've been running in aurics since they came out. i didn't even know it was a Meme Build™️ until i joined this discord. i guess i just like it when the bb goes Fast

[fallen zodiac]

obscurus is the worst of the force swords. but deflector is a good blessing to bank

[primal blade]

which scoreboard is that ?

[strong gulch]

No you're right. I reloaded my meat grinder just to make sure and the 41% doesn't work anymore. 46% is tho

[primal blade]

nvm found it

[strong gulch]

Uhh wtf. I'm messing around with charged staff bonk. Does the H1 staff bonk to the head have a cleave limit?

Ok, it does, but the head has to be hit to fling things back or stagger them.

You can toss A LOT of the smaller guys back if you hit them in the head with staff bonk h1.

and you can do it from 4 meters away

[quasi junco]

wtf just watched my 3 veterans run into a pack of 3 crushers and all get obliterated

was great, should have caught that on video

[plucky flax]

Damn this meme build is so much it even made my game crashed.

[strong gulch]

I had to turn off my mods. Wasn't completely sure it was them, but the crashing stopped after turned them off. I even checked to make sure they were up to date.

[tiny saffron]

whats considered the best melee weapon for the psyker?

[fallen zodiac]

deimos, illisi, and dueling sword 4 for the psyker exclusives.

other good weapons, like devils claw 4, are still good

[tiny saffron]

yeah not really a fan of the dueling sword tbh

[plucky flax]

@strong gulch Since I dc'd half way through.

But it was definitely a really bad build.

[fallen zodiac]

in that case, for the force swords, deimos has better single target attacks and illisi has better horde clear attacks

[plucky flax]

Bad staff + bad blitz.

[tiny saffron]

whats the diff between deimos and illisi?

[tiny saffron]

okay sweet thanks

[coarse bane]

Deimos has more light attack damage, but it's pattern is not to everyone's preference.

[plucky flax]

Illisi is really good at horde clear. Deimos is more single target focused.

But I prefer mk4 duelling sword over deimos if I want to bring single target sword.

[vestal fulcrum]

Attack patterns.

Illisi has diagonal/horizontal swings and primarily is made for handling a lot of enemies at once.

Deimos has a couple stab/overhead attacks that deal a lot of damage to weakspots, but its attack patterns on swarms of enemies are awkward.

[vestal fulcrum]

I generally share this view - Deimos is generally very awkward (and DS4 is super overtuned IMO)

[coarse bane]

Nah, Deimos is good at horde clearing as well. Once you get use to the pattern you make hordes vanish.

[plucky flax]

I find mk4 sword with rampage can handle horde really well too.

Even with slaughterer deimos horde clear is just weird.

[vestal fulcrum]

But... why? I can clear stuff with a force staff

[coarse bane]

Just aim high and you headshot everything.

[vestal fulcrum]

I don't care about headshotting everything, I want to kill hordes quickly, Deimos doesn't kill them very quickly

[plucky flax]

Illisi special also doesn't fall far when you need single target damage.

[vestal fulcrum]

I kills singular targets quite quickly, but again, it all goes down to akward combos that DS4 has right at its fingertips (heavy attacks)

[coarse bane]

I can one shot mutants with Deimos and MkIV dueling, but you have some extra Stam with the Deimos.

[vestal fulcrum]

That's something that I can mitigate with a stam curio just as well

We're not making up each other's mind about that, I'm afraid

So I just agree to disagree

[strong gulch]

Well dang.

[vestal fulcrum]

By the way, what was the build?

[coarse bane]

The push on DS4 is better.

About 50% of the time the dueling sword push seems to not work.

[vestal fulcrum]

Because it doesn't do a whole lot of stagger

It's just a quick tap to allow you to say, interrupt an incoming attack

[coarse bane]

So pretty useless on poxburster waves.

[pallid canyon]

Trama staff is just to op bro

[vestal fulcrum]

Poxbursters are not really an issue, DS4 has enough stagger power to knock them back

It's regular enemies that typically are not impressed by it

[coarse bane]

I've had it "stun/push" dash backwards and still get hit many times with dueling sword.

[pallid canyon]

Not only does the trama staff kill in like 2 hits it knocks everything back

[coarse bane]

What does it kill in two hits?

Poxwalkers?

[plucky flax]

Deimos ep bb and purga. But next time I'm switching to illisi or mk4 sword. Deimos is just feelsbadman

[coarse bane]

Use Deimos light attacks, it's the same damage as heavy.

[plucky flax]

I also can't hit mutie heads as well as with mk4 sword.

[coarse bane]

You don't need to with Deimos. Charge it and stab.

[plucky flax]

Heavy 2 can 1 shot tho

But I just suck with deimos

[strong gulch]

I only use deimos specifically for the heavy 2.

Mk 4 is less fiddly and does a similar job (minus the general force sword things).

[sinful moth]

Yeah okay the warp battery penance straight up sucks

[coarse bane]

Yup, was trying for it last night.

The fact it has to be 6 stacks, and pray no one steals your kills when you have a couple seconds left really makes it stupid.

[sinful moth]

I did every ogryn zealot and veteran penance and this one is making me want to die lol. I think Im gonna wait and hope they change it or something.

[fallen zodiac]

i've been sitting at 4 stacks to theoretically make it easier to get >.>

the pain

[coarse bane]

Even if your max is 4, doesn't count.

[sinful moth]

Mine has been counting at 4?

[glossy ember]

oh shit you finally trying out scrier surge staff?

[lyric canopy]

Try using flame staff with proc on soulblaze and never ult

[round summit]

How do people do gun psyker? i just run out of ammo so quick

[plucky flax]

Xd

[coarse bane]

I spent an entire map at 4 stacks without the talent point for the extra 2. I do not have the pennance

[slow raven]

try to use assail for everything

try to have scriers up whenever you use the gun, more damage means less ammo used

and obvs it's a lot more fun with a survivalist vet

but you can make it work without one

[coarse bane]

That'll work on lower difficulty, but not so much on damnation.

[slow raven]

nah assail is great on damnation as long as you buff it

with all the stuff on the tree

[round summit]

hmm

[slow raven]

and quick swapping to your melee to give it uncanny strike

or to your gun to give it dumdum

if youre not using your weapons to buff assail it performs a lot worse

[fallen zodiac]

appears to be tracking for me

[coarse bane]

I was talking about the more common occurrence of carapace and flak armor.

[slow raven]

for carapace just stab with ds4

or deimos

i never use my gun on them

for big flak elite groups thats when i use the gun

for smaller ones i use assail

[coarse bane]

Have fun with the 18 Crushers

[slow raven]

and the uncanny buffs will be fine

ive never seen 18 at once lol

on AM

maybe like 8 at most

[coarse bane]

HISTG, we a patrol of them come at us same time as a horde wave.

Thankfully we had a lot of room to fall back.

[slow raven]

deimos almost trivializes them since the h2 knocks them down guaranteed

with ds4 special-heavy combo keeps them staggered but its less forgiving

[coarse bane]

Yes, but with that many you don't want to get close.

[summer prairie]

What, you are going to kill 18 crushers with BB instead

[ionic needle]

18 crushers!? Just smite them all and wait half an hour

[coarse bane]

That's a lot of weird aoe slams that might clip you from what should not be melee range.

[fluid ether]

We Emperor Palpatine up in here

[coarse bane]

Indeed, but we pulled back to a narrowed hallway to funnel them. That was my voidstrike cleave and the vet's plasma can make short work of em.

[stable silo]

assail works well with voidstrike staff for carpace

[summer prairie]

For the warp charge penance you can probably use the One More/Many more try mod, choose some appropriate older map and just sit somewhere farming with bots

Do you have to finish the map successfully?

[primal blade]

i wish fatshark gave us something like this :'c

black with gold metal

cuz man does it look good

[severe folio]

strike them down with stubber and chainsword

[idle bay]

Outfit i want for Psykers

"Good news evryone! Horde incoming!"

[vestal fulcrum]

There is a few cosmetic items like these in the game, they just are unavailable/unreleased

[cobalt wraith]

the warp battery penance should still be working fine after the build update right?

[bright mica]

wouldnt 10% weakpoint damage on surge staff increase all right click charged strikes?

[true vault]

HOw hard is the Power Up Penance ?

[strong gulch]

Surge staff RMB only sometimes hits weak spots, and when it does, it's not all tiks of damage.

[cyan notch]

[urban agate]

i’m rather new to the game, but i’ve been eyeing up a nearly fully melee build of psyker

[slender coyote]

prime psyker

[soft notch]

which gun are you using?

[plucky flax]

Melee psyker is doable but it won't be as good as zealot or ogryn.

[urban agate]

rupture, gaze, dd

[soft notch]

in general lasguns, apart from recons, are more ammo efficient options

[plucky flax]

Columbus infantry is also very efficient.

It has big ammo reserve.

[slender coyote]

ive seen some do laspistol but i don't do gunpsykers

so idk

[plucky flax]

Unless you shoot your gun all the time.

Laspistol is not that efficient.

It burns through ammo fast.

[slender coyote]

hm

[soft notch]

its also a bullet hose 😆

if youre not careful

[slender coyote]

i never liked using guns anyways

just leave me in peace with my purgatus

[plucky flax]

Yeah people often just spam columbus rather than using it to take out priority targets.

[urban agate]

guns are for weaklings, psykers have brainrot powers

[soft notch]

I like guns cause I hate voidstrike 😆

[round summit]

tried laspistol brauto and columnus mk infantry auto

[plucky flax]

Braced autogun on psyker?

[round summit]

nevermind not brauto

[azure bridge]

Is all hp increase curios a viable strategey?

[night crater]

Might be cool honestly

[night crater]

Alternate gun fire with assail. But also stack so many damage bonuses that any gun kills almost anything in one shot (but elites).

[pine shore]

Which Blitz, Keystone and Ability would you take with surge staff?

[urban agate]

that’s the chain lightning one, right?

idk if it stuns, but if it does, i’d take assail

ability probably won’t be gaze

[pine shore]

obv not gaze

[plucky flax]

I use smite and creeping flame warp charges.

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[strong gulch]

I like my surge to be about control, so I opt for smite + creeping flames + warp siphon.

Surge's weakness is aoe. Smite + creeping flames helps with that.

People also like assail with surge.

[pine shore]

I don't know what to choose. Assail + empowered or Smite + Warp Charges

[strong gulch]

If you are going to lean on assail more, I'd do both assail modifiers and do EP.

[pine shore]

No, I just hate the new warp charges, wish they didn't do anything at all on ability use

Not using them ever

They suck

[strong gulch]

This is my current surge + smite + creeping flames + warp siphon build. Pick whatever melee you like.

[azure bridge]

is it worth going 3 health curios on psyker? I found this reddit post from a year ago mentioning that health curios will let you survive longer that includes a lot of relevant math but its like a year old so i dont know if its still viable

[pine shore]

Very simmilar to what I had

[pine shore]

what why

[plucky flax]

Yeah health is good.

I do 2hp 1 toughness cos 90 toughness is a bit rough.

[pine shore]

I currently have +3 stamina and 2 toughness curios on psyker

Health is good, I see exchanging 1 toughness curio for health

[azure bridge]

so two health one toughness?

[pine shore]

Maybe

Just not 3 health

[potent echo]

A nice breakpoints is 200hp

So I run 1health 2toughness

[strong gulch]

It really depends. Get enough HP to not insta die to a sniper or a burster.

at least 1 sniper resist helps.

[potent echo]

With 20% sniper resist, you take 90~ damage

[urban agate]

ep+br is bad, but why?

[potent echo]

So 200hp, you can take 1 sniper shot after 1 wound

You can also take 1 burster

[strong gulch]

If you are prone to chip damage, more HP could be helpful.

[azure bridge]

raed somewhere that snipe resist only affects sniper melee damage and that its gunner damage reduction you want for their shots

[potent echo]

No what

Fake news

[azure bridge]

was a datamine

[strong gulch]

If you take damage because your gaurd is constantly broken, take a stamina curio.

[potent echo]

That's bomber

Not sniper

[pine shore]

schizo thoughts

ep+br is probably the best you can choose

[azure bridge]

okay, so someone mentioned 200 hp as a good target?

[potent echo]

If you really doubt sniper you can test it, but I definitely works cause my build works

[azure bridge]

I'm tryhing to maximize my statistical survivability

[pine shore]

idk why exactly 200hp

[potent echo]

Yes with 20% sniper resist

[azure bridge]

no I trust you

[potent echo]

So 200hp, you can take 1 sniper shot after 1 wound

[pine shore]

To maximize your statistical survivability you should try not taking damage in the first place

[plucky flax]

200hp is too low you gotta pump it up.

[potent echo]

Sniper does 120 damage

[azure bridge]

yes but this is for when i inevitably have to

[pine shore]

I always use +3 stamima curios

[azure bridge]

no one's perfect

[potent echo]

So take 20% resist

[azure bridge]

okay, 200 hp and 20% sniper resist then

[strong gulch]

Don't forget the HP and toughness perks

[pine shore]

Although psyker is probably not the best choice for it, would not recommend

[potent echo]

Burster does 50hp damage and 50hp corruption

So 200+ you can survive burster

After being downed once

[strong gulch]

That's when bursters like to find you too.

[azure bridge]

hp breakponit math is both mysterious and horrifying lol

if 200 hp is my hp goal, what number shoudl be my toughness goal?

[potent echo]

As high as you can get it with 200hp

[azure bridge]

my current set up nets me 195 hp lol

I'll need to swap a perk or two on curios

[potent echo]

Technically toughness breakpoints are 200~ for shotgunner closerange, but it's very difficult to get as peyker and not super valuable

[azure bridge]

gunner damage reduction can help that

?

[potent echo]

I get it with 2x 5% health, 20% curio, 10% talent

[potent echo]

No, doesn't affect shotgunners

Only reapers and gunners

[azure bridge]

wish this was in a document somewhere I could read

[strong gulch]

Don't let the "gunner" in shotgunner fool you. 🥲

[potent echo]

There is

Psyker atheneum

[glossy ember]

so, the riposte buff stays active even when switching weapons

[potent echo]

It's all there

[glossy ember]

[strong gulch]

yes

[azure bridge]

the info in there is very minor

[potent echo]

At least the gunner resist info is there

[azure bridge]

and unless i missed it it doesn't mention all these particulars

[potent echo]

But hp breakpoints

[summer prairie]

first time I've ever heard people talk about hp/toughness breakpoints, wouldn't worry about them too much

[potent echo]

Usually people get v defensive about their choices so the default answer is "run whatever you want"

[glossy ember]

right, but does that mean it buffs all your crit rate

[plucky flax]

When when I am told 3x toughness regen on my loner zealot is bad

[strong gulch]

Idk about all ranged, but it did on trauma when I was testing it.

[azure bridge]

I'm just interested in what will give me the best survivability mathmatically so I can use that as a buffer for when I inevitably get hit

[glossy ember]

wait for real

lemme test

[potent echo]

Yea you have to check the mob damage list

It's on reddit lol

[summer prairie]

it's not even mathematical, just theoretical. Not very likely you are going to take a wound, then not heal or take any additional damage and then get hit by a burster

this happens how often, once in 100 games? 1000?

[azure bridge]

4 times last game lol

pox bursters had it out for me

[glass forge]

id like to know too, it is costly to experiment, id rather get the brains of everyone here

[strong gulch]

As of patch 14 it did. Trauma crit chance is low without nexus. So I used LMB to test.

[potent echo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17ytif5/all_enemy_attacks_damage_values_healthtoughness/

[summer prairie]

doesn't the damage also vary based on your distance from the explosion

[potent echo]

You can make your own breakpoints from there

[azure bridge]

tyvm for the resource

[glossy ember]

it doesn't show at least 😦

[potent echo]

Yes, but it's good to prepare for worst case I guess

[glossy ember]

yeah i don't think it buffs crit rate for surge staff

[azure bridge]

prepare for the worst, hope for the bset

its served me well in life

[potent echo]

Idk about riposte buff on ranged weapons

[glossy ember]

The difference is shown on melee weapon

[potent echo]

It might show the buff on the bar, but it isn't active

[glossy ember]

you do see the 20% crit rate buff

just not for ranged

shame

woulda been neat

[potent echo]

I.e. uncanny on melee, shows the buff on the bar, but isn't active on ranged weapons

Idk about riposte though

[summer prairie]

Pretty sure that mod doesn't directly pull your actual crit rate, only tries to calculate it based on your mods and such

[strong gulch]

Well heck. Idk if it ever worked on surge, but quiet nerf is a suck.

[glossy ember]

so the mod assumes the crit rate only buffs the melee weapon, you mean

[summer prairie]

riposte?

[glossy ember]

yes

[summer prairie]

It would make sense yes

[potent echo]

Do you know if riposte buff is global?

[glossy ember]

damn so no way to check if it actually buffs crit rate or not

[potent echo]

I doubt so

[summer prairie]

Pretty easy to check with some other staff

[plucky flax]

Imagine using mods to cheat.

[azure bridge]

this is the document where I got the sniper damage affecting melee bit, it was a line I missread there

[potent echo]

Ah I see

[glossy ember]

there's no way to force 0 base crit rate is there

[azure bridge]

the line reads that sniper gunner and bomber damage reduction affect their melee atacks as well

Gunner, sniper, bomber and flamer resistance applies to their respective units' melee attacks, as well as their ranged attacks and ground effects. Tox flamer resistance applies to both flamer units, not only Dreg Tox Flamers.

oh my most hated fire throwers

[strong gulch]

The way I testes was tesdius af. I shot the LBM until crit and marked down the number of shots it took. I that that repeatedly with the riposte buff off then on. Then I compared my marks.

Riposte buff up has consistently increased crits.

[glossy ember]

hm

[strong gulch]

I don't want to test it again tho.

[glossy ember]

Well, i'll keep it for now then

[strong gulch]

To see if it still works.

[glossy ember]

would be nice if that worked

[summer prairie]

i don't think it works

but maybe my sample size is too small

[glossy ember]

item slot wielded so whatever is active?

[summer prairie]

yes

[glossy ember]

so riposte should work with your ranged weapon then

[summer prairie]

err

I didn't read what you said

[glossy ember]

oh

[summer prairie]

so the opposite

[glossy ember]

ah i get it

conditional => "Is the item that triggered the buff active?"

right

if yes then crit buff if no then no crit buff

[potent echo]

If it works how it seems to be written, it is only active on the melee

[glossy ember]

sad

[summer prairie]

well actually that's the proc_func, so not conclusive

[glossy ember]

oh

[summer prairie]

I copied the wrong part

but I think I would have noticed having +20% crit when I was testing it with void lmb spam with no other buffs

[azure bridge]

man, three zealots and a psyker should have worked out better

[potent echo]

bruisers actually do 108toughness damage now damn its insane

"Gunner, sniper, bomber and flamer resistance applies to their respective units' melee attacks, as well as their ranged attacks and ground effects"

oh did they finally fix it? I cant meme on bomber resist anymore

[silk ore]

bomber resist useful now???

[potent echo]

it still strips your toughness

5% health probably gives more value lmao

[summer prairie]

yeah it does work

[azure bridge]

whats the base hp of a level 30 pysker? trying to do some math

nvm what I wanted to do wont work, table napkin math ftw

1% will not net me 5 hp

[feral seal]

Is fire trauma garb without warp nexus?

[quasi junco]

how gimped would my trauma blaze build me if I took dome shield as opposed to VS?

be*

[cobalt wraith]

is there a build specific for maintaining max charges so i can get warp battery done?

[fresh reef]

Not necessarily

[strong gulch]

As your main weapon, fire trauma needs nexus.

If you are doing support fire trauma as a CC tool or to enable your melee, some do blazing spirit + rending shockwave and get their fire procs from true aim.

[fresh reef]

You can True Aim to guarantee crits

[feral seal]

[fresh reef]

Pair with Smite if you're terrified of being in melee range

[quasi junco]

placing circles at your feet is goated tho, screw smite

[fresh reef]

Yeah but the point is the guarantee crits

[quasi junco]

o lol

[azure bridge]

Holy goodness Saturday morning is not a good time for damnation quickplay

[fresh reef]

Plain circle is cool, fire circle is better

[strong gulch]

I take blaze trauma with dome on the carnival map and often get top damage. It is definitely a DPS cut, but the staff holds its own.

[fresh reef]

Weekend gamers are usually a hinderance on their own, but holiday weekend gamers

Dear lord

[azure bridge]

I had 4 runs fail because of people trying to speed run the mission

Pulling way more than team can handle and wiping us

Had one ogryn who refused to heal

[cobalt wraith]

do talent loadouts not work??? all the loadouts i have saved dont change...

[strong gulch]

GIve it a try.

Though, I'd personally swap flurry to nexus and crit damage to flak because I end up using fire trauma as my main weapon and relying on true aim to be rather clunky.

[feral seal]

Got this too

[strong gulch]

There used to be an issue where loadouts would just get stuck on one. I hope that's not back. If it's not just a one off.... feck.

[fresh reef]

It is saving, just not visually

Occurs whenever you switch tabs in the equipment menu

Just exit out of the menu entirely

[azure bridge]

well gentlemen, I now have 201 hp, snipers beware

[maiden oasis]

did they nerf voidstrikes blast radius?

i can barely headshot stuff anymore using the same staff + setup as i did a few weeks ago

[strong gulch]

Voidstrike got a small nerf. IDK if the blast radius was touched, but yes it's less damage now.

[maiden oasis]

the damage isnt the issue, the problem is that i cant seem to hit weakspots with it as reliably as before

previously its pointing it at their head, now i have to aim slightly above it or it hits a non weakspot instead

[wet belfry]

What is the best talent in psykers tree?

[azure bridge]

Should... Should I buy this?

[untold widget]

Kinetic Deflection

[fresh reef]

The 5% CDR on elite/special kill for everyone in coherency

[sick veldt]

+15 Toughness

[digital narwhal]

Unlucky to Some

[strong gulch]

Do you have a fire trauma or spare crafting mats? If not, then it's worth it.

If you already have one then and it's not a huge upgrade, then no. 80 charge rate is your friend.

If you get it, change unyielding to flak and T3 nexus to T4.

[digital narwhal]

Yes
Unyielding to Flak, and then Warp Nexus to T4

[azure bridge]

looks like i need to find two scriptures in 8 hours then..

[digital narwhal]

You lucky fucker

[strong gulch]

Psyker has a few really good talents, so it's hard to pick the "best" one.

I agree that this one is really good.

[digital narwhal]

I want a good Blaze Trauma too

[fresh reef]

For anyone ingame atm, what's the min/max on Trauma's blast radius in meters?

[digital narwhal]

I hope Unlucky to Some gets reworked

[plucky flax]

Wildfire

[fresh reef]

Make it restore toughness on toughness broken with like a 15-30s cooldown and it would be worth running

[strong gulch]

Someone is probably asking a honest question and we collectively bring memes. 🥺

[zinc phoenix]

Yes absolutely

[plucky flax]

It's not a meme. Wildfire is not meme

[wet belfry]

Im just waiting for the big brain answear

[strong gulch]

I swear wildfire is meant only for fire trauma.

[fresh reef]

Second this. Wildfire is very good

[fresh reef]

It's meant for everything that isn't Purgatus

[idle bay]

Historically it's a meme. That became quite a good skill , bit did not shed his meme status.

[strong gulch]

or just PC.

[plucky flax]

Me using wildfire with purgatus

[ornate hamlet]

Methinks

[fresh reef]

BASED

[idle bay]

Because - why not ? 🙂

[strong gulch]

wildfire + blazing spirit sword

[fresh reef]

Wildfire was not a meme pre-13 and I will die on this hill

[idle bay]

Long ago when soulfire did close to 0 damage it was, very long time ago

[untold niche]

i can't seem to find HUDTweaker

[ornate hamlet]

"What is the best thing in this massive group of radically different things" has but memes as the answer

[strong gulch]

Trauma blast radius.

[hearty dagger]

But deep inside, we all know Kinetic Deflection is the answer 🫤

[strong gulch]

true

[fresh reef]

Cheers

[quasi junco]

So playing trauma/blaze with shield was OK. But I have no good method of quelling now.

Have to go this route

[ornate hamlet]

True and real

Hold R like we true ligmarites do

[quasi junco]

Yep only way

[hearty dagger]

The best method of quelling is screaming "WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOOM" and holding R

[quasi junco]

I guess I do have solidity

[hearty dagger]

Nuh uh, you have plasma now

[azure bridge]

welp i bought the staff

[untold widget]

ayy

[untold widget]

Walking slowly towards a nest of gunners, holding block and tanking continuous fire until you get to them and push them over like a childhood bully is a potent drug

[azure bridge]

how effective is soulblaze's damagea against monstrosities?

[hasty breach]

anyone have a good build that uses scrier's gaze? it seems like that's for gun psykers-- does it affect brain burst and the rest?

[untold widget]

it does, but it also generates peril while active, so you will max out super quickly

[fresh reef]

Entirely depends on the amount of stacks

6, bad

21, very good

[azure bridge]

isn't blazing spirit caped at 6?

[untold widget]

i think maxing out purgatus stacks and then venting flame can get to 21

[soft notch]

Since anticipation is bugged is it not worth running at all? Or is the extra dodge still worth it?

[untold widget]

not worth it

[lethal folio]

It isn't bugged.

it is very good.

[soft notch]

Ahh okay, the steam guide is wrong then

[fresh reef]

@near wyvern

[untold widget]

it might be worth it if you run axe psyker, but force swords don't really run out of dodges, and dueling swords have like 5 dodges or so, but I can't really say i've run out of dodges with dueling swords either

[quasi grotto]

Question on force sword: trying to use the push for the cliffhanger achievement, does it need to be the mk5 one? Cause just have mk4 so far and the push doesn't seem to be that far

It's supposed to be the block attack right, so hold instead of tap the lmb

[fresh reef]

It doesn't need to be weapon specific

It's intended to be done with Venting Shriek, though

[quasi grotto]

Do I need to bump up my peril before I use shriek?

Cause tbh that doesn't feel like a huge pushback either, mostly seems to just make them trip on the spot

[fresh reef]

Yup

It scales with Peril, and to a lesser extent range

(though I doubt you're trying to do the penance with enemies more than 5m away)

[quasi grotto]

Any recommended spots btw

Was trying logistratum near the start and just wasn't panning out

[lethal folio]

smelter finale

[weary rain]

Crit chance on perks is good?

[lethal folio]

Flak

[quasi grotto]

May I ask what I'm looking for?

Don't think I've done smelter yet

[lethal folio]

stand in the middle and shout the hordes off.

[quasi grotto]

Gotcha, thanks. I'll try that

[hearty dagger]

Ah, young psykers.

Back in my day you had to knock off 20.

[quasi grotto]

Just got the game yesterday hehe

[hearty dagger]

It was hell.

I would rather do Malleus Monstronum against 5 daemonhosts than go through old cliffhanger again.

[quasi grotto]

Having fun but yeah some of the penances...

[hearty dagger]

If it helps

They used to be worse.

[quasi grotto]

I can only imagine

Well there's a lv1 smelter up right now. Gonna hop in and try my luck

Hopefully the others don't kill them all

[long wharf]

Nonsense, it was super easy. Just required a little cooperation from the team

The map with the starting area having a bridge made that penance trivial

[bleak tulip]

except you didnt have coordination anymore because all your friends stopped playing because of the release state

[hearty dagger]

Do remember that it was bugged as hell and didn't count half the time.

[long wharf]

I have friends that still play, periodically

[bleak tulip]

also I wouldnt call it trivial, still took a few tries, it was just a shit penance that you had to actively play like one of three maps for and spend a whole as time to do it

it sucked and im glad its changed

[azure bridge]

is perilous combustion worth taking on a flury/rending trauma staff?

[bleak tulip]

yes

[long wharf]

Though at this point, we're essentially waiting for the next content patch

[bleak tulip]

its worth on everything

its literally free damage

[azure bridge]

yeah but, does it kill

cause if it doesnt kill, isn't that wasted damaeg?

[bleak tulip]

[long wharf]

No such thing as wasted damage

[bleak tulip]

it makes things easier to kill

if it doesnt kill

[strong gulch]

Force sword push attack pushes one target strongly. The push pushes a lot of targets, but it doesn't fling them away.

[bleak tulip]

so uh

no its not wasted

[long wharf]

Anything that makes things die faster benefits the team

[strong gulch]

flak and crit chance

[azure bridge]

I'm just looking at it through the lense of breakpoints, if it doesn't affect the number of attacks required to kill a target extra damage usually doesn't matter

[bleak tulip]

it can lower breakpoint to one shot ranges

even from that perspective

[long wharf]

It's based on your peril. The higher your peril, the harder Shriek pushes

[bleak tulip]

also solely focusing on breakpoints in a game where you dont play perfect every time is kind of one sided

also you dont play in a vacuum

[azure bridge]

its hard to quanitify its usefulness unfortuantely, stuff doesn't seem to live long enough on my end for the dot to matter, most zealots or vets usually have one or two shot breakpoints on big targets and smaller guys it doesnt really kill them

[azure bridge]

good points

[bleak tulip]

an enemy being 2/3 health by the time something else from another player who hasnt even heard of breakpoints hits em and kills em helps either way

and for big groups of elites and such like the shotgunner hordes it does kill shit on its own

[azure bridge]

this is good to hear

[bleak tulip]

reminder that 6 stacks is enough to kill chaff and thats two specials or elites, and you kill so many elites and specials on even just normal damnation that I would argue its always worth

[long wharf]

6 stacks of soulblaze is where the horde starts dying quickly enough on damnation

That's two spec/elite kills

[strong gulch]

The thicker the area is with elites and specials, the more value you'll get out of PC. It keeps stacking. It can go past the 6 cap, unlike staves.

If you aren't killing the high value targets tho, like on lower difficulties, then it's meh. General rule is take it.

[bleak tulip]

I will state once again mention that one time I shouted at a dead vet and got 90 kills just from 6 stacks

[long wharf]

Take it if you can

My assail build doesn't have the spare two points

[azure bridge]

intersting, i find i'm not killing the elites on higher difficutlies either, likely where my issue is

either I'm getting ks'd or my cast isn't fast enough

i havn't seen fire from the elite kill in a while

[strong gulch]

Yes shriek for pushing a horde off a cliff.

The force sword push was mentioned, so I was letting them know how force sword pushes function.

[bleak tulip]

thats where I am very annoyed with the game balance around the difficulties, some things like PC scale immensely with the higher density of higher difficulties while other things fall off to a degree where there is reddit posts that show builds that are comically bad on anything past malice while builds discussed here basically only focus on the highest difficulties and might not be what makes sense to someone who is used to lower difficulties

my own blindspot is that I literally havent played difficulty 2 since the closed beta

like new characters on level 1 I just chucked into difficulty 3 or 4

[azure bridge]

I'm primarily playing on damnation but elite killer builds are so much mroe swift at it than myself

[long wharf]

I play 1s and 2s when I need a particular mission

[azure bridge]

elites die in seconds

[bleak tulip]

I low key get bored in heresy now

[long wharf]

Gotta grind repairs and investigations somehow

[bleak tulip]

because there is nothing to kill

or do

[untold widget]

I get bored in regular damnation unless I'm running gunker

[bleak tulip]

I play vet on damnation because I dont like vet

but gotta do melkies

[azure bridge]

alright enough moping for me, what can I do to better make use of this soulfire mechanic, do i hold my spells to KS elite targets? do I spam?

[long wharf]

You target them like everyone else

What build you run will determine how you do that

[azure bridge]

running a trauma staff build, not blazing trauma flurry,rending

[long wharf]

Well, there's problem #1

[untold widget]

I snipe specials with BB/Assail right click, or voidstrike. I nuke clusters of shotgunners with trauma. I'll knife dive a backline gunner. Surge staff is good at focusing elites in hordes

[long wharf]

Trauma isn't a long range staff

[strong gulch]

Trauma is good at aoe, but it lack in single target. People will be sniping what you soften up.

[azure bridge]

i agree

[untold widget]

however, a full charge middle hit nukes most things except maybe bulwarks/crushers

[azure bridge]

but its the one i'm best with and most comfortable using

[long wharf]

That doesn't mean you don't take PC

[strong gulch]

I like trauma a lot.

[long wharf]

Just means you gotta play more aggressively

[strong gulch]

yee

[untold widget]

if you've got good left click control, you can use that to get the elite in a mixed horde

[azure bridge]

i also prefer the flurry/rending over blazing because it doesn't rely on critical hits

and I like stacking brittle

but thats preference

[long wharf]

BS is so good with trauma, though

[azure bridge]

I find I kill faster and more often with the flurry/rending than i do with BS unfortunately

[mortal breach]

Get on the laspistol vibe. You get the single target at amazing range, the reload speed of the gods, ammo capacity out the wazoo, and you can push with the special

And the damage is pretty decent

Build for Crit, take assail for hordes, shield or shriek for emergencies, and EP will stack easily with the pistol

[quasi grotto]

okay, i see how smelter would be a good place to do it. too bad my team was killing things too fast for me to set up the push properly

thanks for the tip, will keep trying

i tried asking their help on it but didn't really get a reply when i chatted

[calm violet]

Hey, my siblings, I am a fresh level 30. Still figuring things out. Thoughts on gun psyker?

[quasi grotto]

so shriek is still the way to go huh

[calm violet]

I am going back and forth between bb and gun psyker. Haven't found my stride yet. : /

[honest robin]

Gunker is sick if you can click heads good

I do an identical build then mostly use my sword

[calm violet]

Identical build?

[honest robin]

Like a gun psyker build

[calm violet]

Gotcha

[honest robin]

I just bring a staff and sword with it because im crazy

[calm violet]

Psyker melee is fun as hell

[honest robin]

I still need to make a good mk4 sabre

[calm violet]

Which sword do you recommend?

The mk4?

[honest robin]

Dueling sabre mk 4 or 5, deimos or illsi force sword

Devil's claw is still good ig but i use it on other classes

[calm violet]

I have been having good luck with the deimos thus far

Haven't tried the 4 yet

[honest robin]

I use a mk 5 because it has really sick rolls

[untold widget]

MK IV dueling sword is probably the best all around weapon for psyker

[honest robin]

Mk 4 is like a saltzpyre stabbing sword

[alpine fulcrum]

oh please oh please oh please hardon

[honest robin]

Do it hadron

Terrifying barrage 2

[calm violet]

Is terrifying barrage good? Haven't used it yet.

[honest robin]

No

[untold widget]

no

[calm violet]

Lol

[azure bridge]

is empowered BB good against bosses?

[alpine fulcrum]

not sure guys...

[digital narwhal]

Eh

[honest robin]

That's a sick roll

[alpine fulcrum]

my perks or one of the blessings

[honest robin]

Keep the blessings i think

[alpine fulcrum]

i think youre right honestly

[honest robin]

The charge speed though...

[alpine fulcrum]

No warp flurry but i can get the dmg types i want

[untold widget]

You could probably get away with keeping carapace and putting flak insted of weak spot damage and then change nexus to flurry

[honest robin]

Maybe keep carapace and get flurry?

[untold widget]

but up to you

[digital narwhal]

Transfer Peril to Surge, and then Weak Spot to Flak

[honest robin]

Crusher killing is important

[untold widget]

well if you have surge

if Beloved has blessed you so

[alpine fulcrum]

i made my decision to swap the two perks

it was a tough choice flak and unyielding

or maybe maniac

[untold widget]

flak/maniac is always a good choice

[proven stirrup]

It is really wild how completely incapable of high-level play I am

I need a break from this woodchipper of a game

[ornate hamlet]

How so?

[proven stirrup]

I wish I knew how to answer that. Maybe I could actually make it out of a mission lately

[ornate hamlet]

Well, how are you playing? What's your build? What weapons are you using?

[strong gulch]

Burn out, brain fog, general tiredness, holiday players, etc can really cause issues.

[ornate hamlet]

That too tbh

[proven stirrup]

Yeah that's what it feels like

My builds are generally fine

my gear isn't but that's sort of the problem that feeds into this negative loop

it takes so much to get even middling weapons and curios that I'm grinding out mats and money just to get my legs under me in the first place

[dreamy lodge]

fellas is the electricity staff trash or do I not know how to use it?

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, that parts pretty unforgiving

[proven stirrup]

But as such I'm stuck in the mind-numbing end of the game chipping away at the lowbie numbers and getting bored because of it

[ornate hamlet]

You don't know how to use it

[unkempt hare]

Electric staff is good it's just it builds peril fast

[dreamy lodge]

what's the ideal situation for it

[round summit]

just did a maelstorm with 3 other random psykers

[unkempt hare]

Single target for staff smite does crowds

[ornate hamlet]

It builds peril fast, grab the talent that grants additional damage the higher your peril and when it gets high enough, go to town on the heretics

[unkempt hare]

Out with a bang is a funny achievement

[ornate hamlet]

And before patch 14 the crowd hold on it was a godsend. Still is, in some cases

[dreamy lodge]

it stuns 3 enemies at a time, I've noticed. right?

[unkempt hare]

When you complete a secondary attack with surge staff it deals like 700 damage

[ornate hamlet]

I usually don't keep count, busy managing my surroundings and my peril

What's your staff look like?

[dreamy lodge]

stats?

[ornate hamlet]

Modifiers, blessings, the whole 9 yards

[dreamy lodge]

is trash, I'm level 13

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Fair enough. Higher levels will grant you better equipment

[dreamy lodge]

I was just wondering about the base stats of the staff

[ornate hamlet]

The thing to keep in mind is that it has a start solely for crit damage

[unkempt hare]

I like warp flurry especially on surge it deals so much damage

[dreamy lodge]

cuz iin my limited experience it doesnt do much against hordes, it kills specials, on lower diffs at least

[ornate hamlet]

And the interesting thing about it is against flak armor, it has low damage but high crit change

[unkempt hare]

And those crits are so good

[ornate hamlet]

Crits are going to be your main output with surge

And like what Ozzy said, warp flurry is something you can't pass up with it

[unkempt hare]

Got a quad 80 trauma staff but it has only 56% warp resist

[ornate hamlet]

Get the perks that offer toughness regen on gain and quell then

[unkempt hare]

I've been grinding out blessings so that I can have them if the meta changes

[ornate hamlet]

I'm too set in my ways, I'll most likely be sticking with what I got whatever the meta is

[unkempt hare]

Mind in motion is such a good talent too bad it's not a starter

[azure bridge]

can you stack brittleness on bosses?

[unkempt hare]

I think? I dunno how brittleness and rending really work

[azure bridge]

from what I understand rending is a buff and brittleness a debuff

i just don't know how bosses interact with brittleness

[unkempt hare]

Unarmored and infested are not effected by brittleness and rending

[potent echo]

damage buff

[quasi junco]

just tried surge/smite on hi int vent purge, yikes, going back to blaze trauma

[potent echo]

surge assail is more sane

[quasi junco]

yea ill try that when I get bored of Traumaze

lul new word I made up

copyright*

LOL time to get wrecked

[idle bay]

At least he is not lvl 15.

3 more skill points. 3 more brain cells

[sturdy radish]

been outta the psycher game a while, any tips for good builds?

[idle bay]

Check pinned message. MASSIVE psyker guide there with builds

[frail sand]

finally got a decent illisi

[sturdy radish]

ty

[strong gulch]

Most damage taken.

[dreamy lodge]

+toughness or +health on curios for psyker?

[strong gulch]

Depends.

A +health (all health adding up to 200+) + 1 sniper resist can get you sniper / burster survial break points.

If you have chip damage, health is your friend. If you like to trade toughness with shooters, thoughness is your friend.

If you gaurd gets broken a lot, + stamina can be nice.

Kinetic deflection also helps

but not all builds have room for it.

And you may not want your peril climbing due to KD

[plucky flax]

32 mobility. What's the dodge distance on that?

[frail sand]

not ideal at -7.7, but still have 5 dodges

[plucky flax]

Stubby legs psyker.

[dreamy lodge]

Thanks

[hidden crystal]

I run Toughness, Health and Stamina.

Toughness regenerates, but some things just ignore or delete it, so I don't like relying entirely on it. And the stamina is because I like tanking hordes when reviving.

[frail sand]

i can tell within 2 minutes if a pub team is going to make it

[hidden crystal]

That said, I don't pretend to be the best player.

[hasty spear]

Do i just change barrage to warp nexus and ranged damage to crit damage?

[mortal marsh]

What's the dump stat for Trauma?

[mortal marsh]

Change the ranged damage out with unyielding

At least that's what I use

Also yes change barrage to nexus

[quasi grotto]

So, trying for cliffhanger, was doing vigil station on the bridges at the finale, ramped up my peril to 100%, ran to the middle of the bridge full of poxwalkers to pop shriek, still only got 5 fall kills

[quasi junco]

welp, going to RQ when lowbies join on hi int damnation from now on

[mortal marsh]

Sounds about right, I remember I had to be on that final segment for like 5 minutes trying to get that

[sonic coral]

I got cliffhanger accidentally by venting into a spawn door

[quasi grotto]

[sonic coral]

[quasi grotto]

How does that work, the door is considered a pit?

[summer prairie]

there's probably no geometry/collision very far behind it

[quasi grotto]

Either of the bridges without rails would work for cliffhanger right? I'm not being dumb and pushing them off where they can land safely am i

[sonic coral]

No idea, but i guess. I think it was either the last spawn door before entering the final area on shutting down the sky fire, or that middle spawn pillar in the gestation chamber finale

During a horde obv

[summer prairie]

I also got it like that right after the release when it was still 21 or whatever

[sweet veldt]

Is there a list of what each staff does

[quasi grotto]

Man I just wanna look cool

Maybe I'm crazy but the force sword block attack doesn't feel very helpful in getting cliffhanger

[late yew]

Why milky is such a jokester

[quasi grotto]

Feels like a lot of the time they're just knocked down by it

[late yew]

.... just... try them all?

[sweet veldt]

Not unlocked/dropped yet

[waxen abyss]

Brunt armory has you covered

Try ‘em all like said

[late yew]

bruh

so just wait until you do

[waxen abyss]

Then level up

Ez

[late yew]

What next

you will ask what "launch mission" button does

[waxen abyss]

Voidstrike is big ball boom generalist
Trauma is big ground boom AoE stagger clear
Surge is lightning, theoretically good at clearing packs of shooters or fighters (not poxwalker hordes)
Uh then there’s that flamethrower staff