psyker-class

[shut shoal]

they dont last long on heresy, just dont res them

[wide tiger]

I only play auric's so i'd get flamed pretty hard if I said i was pennace hunting im sure

[glossy ember]

oic

[wide tiger]

But when i dont have vent i blow up way too much

[woeful patio]

Yes, get 2 other people to go with you

[wide tiger]

cause greed

But mah warp nexus and warp rider

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike nerfed
Assail nerfed
Force sword dodge nerf
Surge bug
Since patch 13 rework
Trauma is safe somehow

[woeful patio]

If playing with other Psykers, it’s customary to blow up on Auric Damnation so they don’t feel as bad when they see the scoreboard or don’t perform as well

[wide tiger]

Hear me out on the FS dodge nerf

[woeful patio]

“Sure I’m barely doing anything but at least I didn’t blow up”

[wide tiger]

You wanna talk about bad habits in baby psykers

FS encouraged that dodge spam life

[shut shoal]

give it time.

[quasi junco]

does atrox special knock ragers from combo?

[woeful patio]

I have roughly a years worth of muscle memory with infinite dodge

The transition to 5 was

[wide tiger]

^^

[woeful patio]

Difficult

[wide tiger]

hard

Yeah

I get you

[woeful patio]

I’m used to it now but holy shit

ROUGH

[frail sand]

smite is only good when ur teammates actually kill the thing you are CCing it turns out

[wide tiger]

But the illisi is such a beast right now

I freakin love it

[woeful patio]

Illisi best force sword

[quasi junco]

I just run past lol'ing the whole time

[wide tiger]

100%

[woeful patio]

Cannot change my mind

[wide tiger]

What if i told you i can one shot crushers with the deimos second heavy

[shut shoal]

i just use it to shove things like a brighter ogryn slap

[wide tiger]

WOULD THAT CHANGE YOUR MIND?

[frail sand]

otherwise u stand there zapping like an idiot

[wide tiger]

because it wouldnt change mine

Illisi best fs

[shut shoal]

charge it and let go at 90% charge and it will put anything your size on its ass and stun bigger lads

[wide tiger]

I got in this whole thing on the forums with a guy but yeah... I feel like smite can have its place in a group where you can rely on your team mates to deal damage

but if you get stuck with stinkers then you are literally just delaying your untimely demise

I also think you can perform the CC role of smite using the Trauma to a similar effect, but the trauma has the added bonus of actually killing things

So you arent putting extra burden on your team mates to make up that loss of damage output

[glossy ember]

are 75 stamina curios still bugged btw

i haven't tried

[wide tiger]

75 stamina curios sound pretty op

[glossy ember]

er

75 base rating

i mean

[zinc phoenix]

Using smite to fuel peril for more damage/more fire is very valuable

Plus there’s the generic benefit of pausing a situation that smited brings

[glossy ember]

i guess i'll try it

[zinc phoenix]

Idk I think it’s a super valuable skill

[wide tiger]

I think you could argue smite fills that "oh shit button" that psykers are lacking in a little, sure

in an organized team its probably a fine pick

[zinc phoenix]

It’s better in disorganized pug team

Because you can pull them out of fire

[wide tiger]

I dunno man, the pubs ive been playing with

like i said, trauma

Trauma because you get to kill teh stuff you're ccing, and i think trauma generates peril faster than smite?

[zinc phoenix]

So many times I’ve seen people about to get gang b*ng by crusher and just stop it

[wide tiger]

don't actually know for sure

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma is also good and I use fire trauma

[wide tiger]

Yeah fire trauma is a lot of fun

[zinc phoenix]

But they are different role

[wide tiger]

I do rending/flurry trauma for support

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma can fuck one spot in particular

[wide tiger]

with telekine shield

[zinc phoenix]

Smite can stop whole zone in place

[wide tiger]

Its got a pretty big aoe

[zinc phoenix]

You can’t trauma entire open area like that carnival room near the open

But you can smite it

And that room eats noob pugs

[wide tiger]

But why are you out in the open anyways? :p

[zinc phoenix]

Because some places are open 🤷‍♀️

And also because we are talking about people who tunnel vision in on kills

And forget that doot doot doot doot stayin alive stayin alive

🪩

If they ever add a disco ball psyker cosmetic staff I will spend real money on it

Like instead of a boom trauma makes a disco ball appear

I go smite/trauma/shriek with the fire traits and blaze

And warp charge ofc

[glossy ember]

i have the power of the god-emperor and empathic evasion on my side

[wide tiger]

100% love that node, super underrated

[azure bridge]

I do enjoy me some flurry/rending trauma

[wide tiger]

can sit in melee all day

[shut shoal]

on the plague tree finally you can pause 3/4th of the entire area for a good 10 seconds

[wide tiger]

I run telekine dome shield and just trauma inside it

[glossy ember]

also decided to ditch PC again so I can get the 20% toughness damage reduction from scrier because I feel like not using it has caused me to take a lot more damage than i thought

[wide tiger]

basically everyone in my shield gets the benefit of being able to shoot w/e they want and be free of anything interfering

[azure bridge]

This cept I drop it on top of shotgunners

[zinc phoenix]

Dome shield is flame nade bait imo

[wide tiger]

thats fun too

[zinc phoenix]

Da real play

[azure bridge]

Fuck shotgunners

[wide tiger]

flame nade cant get inside the dome though, it can hit outside and creep inside, but it cant take up 100% of the space

i guess if you got flame naded from all 3 sides

it would fuck you, but hey thats more an issue of target prioritization

[zinc phoenix]

I do like getting some dome on my gunlugger

even more toughness regen somehow

[wide tiger]

yeah

[marsh wharf]

why is the deimos 4 sword so good

[shut shoal]

Do dome regen buffs stack?

[wide tiger]

Yes

[azure bridge]

Cause it is easy and it does a lot of damage

[wide tiger]

And with a warp charge build and a trauma soulfire build i was able to concurrently keep 2-3 domes up

[woeful patio]

Obscuris walked so Deimos and Illisi could run

[marsh wharf]

btw for progression whats the best staff I should use

[wide tiger]

voidstrike

[woeful patio]

Unfortunately

[wide tiger]

Why unfortunately

lol

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d make oscurous good again so I can use mine from early days

[wide tiger]

Voidstrike is a solid premise

shoot big blast in line

[zinc phoenix]

I like smite and trauma better than void

[wide tiger]

Yeah rip obscurus

[marsh wharf]

the charge time just feels really bad on voidstrike imo

[wide tiger]

Trauma is an all around solid staff cant argue

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re in long corridor void is good but on a hab map with a lot of corners the long charge time is poo

[shut shoal]

after getting a good deimos sword, i cant use any other melee on my psyker. So good

[azure bridge]

This unfortunately early game psyker suffers because enemies have such little hp you can hardly get a cast off before they're dead

[woeful patio]

Voidstrike is the Assail of the staff world

[wide tiger]

Well you dont have to full charge the voidstrike

for me 1/3 charge is enough for most specs

[marsh wharf]

are there any good vent shriek builds btw?

[zinc phoenix]

Surge staff is really good stuff don’t miss it

[woeful patio]

Gimme a beam staff

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta get used to using the left click tho

[azure bridge]

While correct even partial charge gets beat by Las gun

[woeful patio]

Surge is my favorite

[wide tiger]

Surge needs buffs man

[marsh wharf]

cause im gonna be honest I like using vent shriek + smite

[zinc phoenix]

Surge is perfect for snap shotting specials

It has a niche

[wide tiger]

revolver is better for snap shotting specials though

or like

a gun

column V

[azure bridge]

Any gun

[wide tiger]

vraks mk3

[marsh wharf]

Surge staff needs to be buffed if you have the lighting storm upgrade

[zinc phoenix]

Gunker is strong but I dont like playing it 😂

[wide tiger]

fair enough

[zinc phoenix]

Also I’m still scarred by DD launch

[glossy ember]

surge staff overhaul

make RMB LMB

[wide tiger]

I really do believe surge be needing buffs to make it more comparable to other weapons that perform the same role

[summer prairie]

a bit squishy compared to staff psykers

[zinc phoenix]

🫐 spawning in walls, never another one

[glossy ember]

make RMB a lightning javelin that pierces

[zinc phoenix]

Turning it into the staff version of revolver would be sick

[azure bridge]

Slow down there sienna

[zinc phoenix]

So it has basically unlimited charge attack range and high damage

[wide tiger]

Thats what it should be

[marsh wharf]

imo surge staff should be a passive DoT like poison if you charge it

[zinc phoenix]

But the cycle time on zaps is slow and peril is high

[marsh wharf]

So you fire it off and while the lightning is still going you can still charge up the next burst

[glossy ember]

bolt staff was hype bro..

[azure bridge]

It is but I prefer lifestealer now

[zinc phoenix]

Bolt was good but fireball was cooler

Also fireball had way more group wipe potential 😈

[marsh wharf]

btw if you dont compare them to the psyker shield are venting shriek and scryers gaze good

[wide tiger]

Where's my continuous laser beam staff

[azure bridge]

They're good even when compared

[wide tiger]

even if you do they are good

[zinc phoenix]

All three psyker f are good

[wide tiger]

^

[azure bridge]

Shreik is horde clear dialed up to 11

[zinc phoenix]

But SG take some getting used to

[azure bridge]

SG turns you into a psychic cowboy

[marsh wharf]

SG is good if you like weapon focused psykers right?

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen a lot of psyker try it and struggling

[wide tiger]

SG you need to remember not to do shit like

activate your force sword

or brain burst

or use a staff.

😛

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah, it’s basically vet but with crazy person lines and super speed

[azure bridge]

SG casts one spell: Gun

[marsh wharf]

anyone have a good brain burst build? not sure if I should run that or surge at

level 14

[shut shoal]

but im here for the staff n sword.

[zinc phoenix]

SG/DD psyker is if a vet did speed and cocaine and bath salts at the same time

[azure bridge]

Surge IMO

[shut shoal]

so nice to not worry bout nades or ammo

[wide tiger]

scriers gaze prob not for you!

[slow raven]

scriers is fun with voidstrike

it's wasted on every other staff

[wide tiger]

Honestly i had a lot of fun playing a brain burst only build with EP

[glossy ember]

true

[azure bridge]

EP brain burst is great for killing specials

[steel flame]

What should I do with this?

[marsh wharf]

I really wanna see them give psyker some sort of heretic weapon though

[glossy ember]

don't let your dreams be memes

[zinc phoenix]

Purgatus + Deimos with brain burst and warp charges. Also pick up kinetic deflection and dome

[glossy ember]

play scrier's gaze with a staff and force sword

[marsh wharf]

so they would have something more unique in the gun area

[glossy ember]

[wide tiger]

Deflector -> Uncanny 4 and infested -> maniac

[azure bridge]

Put maniac damage on it

I hard love deflector

[steel flame]

Repalce infested with maniac?

[azure bridge]

Yeah

[wide tiger]

Ehhh i think deflector is like fs unlimited doge

dodge

[woeful patio]

Purgatus + Scrier pretty okay

[wide tiger]

It creates that ogryn brain where you sit there in block instead of sliding and dodging

[glossy ember]

surge staff with scrier is fun

[azure bridge]

Maniac will let you one shot muties

[zinc phoenix]

BB/dome/wc with purgatus/deimos is the “I like to have solution to every problem” psyker

[steel flame]

Should I keep reflector or get another blessing?

[woeful patio]

Deflector is great until you use it against a gunner

[zinc phoenix]

Deflector is great full stop

[azure bridge]

I like deflector

[woeful patio]

I use Deflector and Uncanny

[wide tiger]

I think you should change deflector to uncanny

[woeful patio]

It’s amazing

[azure bridge]

Saved my ass so hard

[zinc phoenix]

Deflector is the clutch mod

[wide tiger]

and have slaughterer/uncanny

[woeful patio]

Every time I use a sword without deflector I think “Wow I really wish I had deflector”

[glossy ember]

i like deflector but i feel like it gets kinda overshadowed by empathic evasion

[wide tiger]

agree

[zinc phoenix]

Rezzing people with deflector sword after a shriek so nice

[glossy ember]

I use shred + uncanny on my illisi with empathic evasion node

[zinc phoenix]

Right side tree yes

[glossy ember]

so I get a lot of dodges

[azure bridge]

You already have slaughter 4 so I'd change deflector 2 for 4 and damage to maniac

[wide tiger]

They removed blocking with your weapon on rez

[zinc phoenix]

IMO dueling sword maxed out for killing if you’re goin right side

[wide tiger]

You block with your hands

you dont get deflector when you rez

[zinc phoenix]

NEEEEEEEEEEIN

[woeful patio]

Deflector + Kinetic Deflection

[woeful patio]

He lion

[zinc phoenix]

Very based

[azure bridge]

This

[wide tiger]

I remember deflector rez's back in the day

[azure bridge]

Deflector saves lives

[steel flame]

I already have the kinetic deflection talent, should I keep that on when I have deflector? Or is the deflector blessing a better alternative to the talent

[azure bridge]

And it does work when rezing

[zinc phoenix]

That said I am not an ultra math elite theorycrafter, I just like to shoot dude

[zinc phoenix]

Kinetic deflection lets you block with peril not stam, totally different

[azure bridge]

Yes

[woeful patio]

They stack

Both ideally

[steel flame]

Damn, nice

ty yall

[woeful patio]

But if you HAVE to choose one over the other

[azure bridge]

Yeah it's great

[wide tiger]

That's probably a bug then. They literally put a patch out just to remove deflector ranged blocking while rezzing

[woeful patio]

Kinetic Deflection

Simple because you can tank bosses with it

[azure bridge]

Interesting

[zinc phoenix]

BON like “lel”

Or more accurately “gurglegurlge”

[azure bridge]

Last night I was literally being shot and my peril was rising whilenrezing

[wide tiger]

well i mean melee will still make your peril rise while rezzing

shooting wasnt hitting your tough?

[zinc phoenix]

Which translates to “parry this you fucking casual” 😂

[azure bridge]

Nah though now that you mention it every now and then when I'm blocking normally shots hit my toughness

[wide tiger]

I'll ahve to try it out, if ranged blocking while rezzing is back

[azure bridge]

You might be right and it's a bug

[wide tiger]

but anyways, i can tell this will be an unpopular opinion in here but i think the deflector blessing is a trap :p

[azure bridge]

Spaghetti code perhaps

[zinc phoenix]

What’s the gunker gun rn? Columbus IAG?

[wide tiger]

Columnus V is pretty nutty

[quasi junco]

wtf my damage vs overkill, this isn't right

[azure bridge]

Kantreal and revolver are good too

[thorn cedar]

Laspistol

[wide tiger]

Yeah revolver pretty busted rn

[wide tiger]

what weapons/blitz?

[quasi junco]

trauma blaze build with BB

[zinc phoenix]

I became a headshot god with revolver on zealot over the last few patches and now I have revolver vet too. May as well make revolver psyker 😂

[steel flame]

IDK why people hate the revolver, I love it on all 3 of my classes

[azure bridge]

I love it as well

[wide tiger]

People hate it because when they play against people using it they get no kills

[azure bridge]

But I need my space magic staff

[zinc phoenix]

I only use it for specials/elites

[wide tiger]

Yeah ofc

[zinc phoenix]

And doing the Indians jones move of blapping ragers while they wave their arms frantically

[wide tiger]

It's basically the best DMR in DT currently

[quasi junco]

revolver is best zealot ranged imo, with agri brauto close 2nd

[wide tiger]

ohh

idk

braced autoguns kinda fell off

i think a column V outpaces a brauto pretty hard

esp in blazing piety

due to finesse modifier being just way damn higher on the iag

[static needle]

Worth tryna get a new one just because that one perk is bricked? Ive heard maniac dmg is already pretty good as it is

[steel flame]

What perks and blessings should I look for in the surge staff?

[wide tiger]

flurry and nexus

[steel flame]

ty

[azure bridge]

This

[steel flame]

and do perks matter too much?

[wide tiger]

seems pretty solid to me

[wide tiger]

I mean.... perks always matter

25% damage to a type is always big

[azure bridge]

It's huge really

For surge I'd go maybe crit chance and flak?

[steel flame]

ty

[static needle]

my min maxing OCD is kickin in tho hahah
want that maniac dmg

[wide tiger]

fair enough

[steady yarrow]

You love to see it

[frail sand]

Don't you love the classic auric maelstrom lobby that has 2/4 players left shortly after the first encounter

[glossy ember]

flak and then crit chance or carapace or unarmoured, if you have to lock your perks to get better blessings

[frail sand]

• 2 teammates over extends and dies
• can't pick them up
• dies
• leaves faster than lightning
  nothing more classic than that

[glossy ember]

if you get lucky with blessings you'll have unlocked perks

[woeful patio]

By overextending do you mean:

1. They are playing Zealot
2. Aren’t following Coherency Flow

[frail sand]

it's not even zealots, they rushed to the room ahead with all the encounter spawns just before a swarm starts, get cornered, can't make it back to the 2 of us in a better position, and then dies and quits

[woeful patio]

Skill issue

“Oh wow, an indication a large mass of enemies is coming, rather than fortifying our position in an already cleared area, Im going to progress forward, aggro god knows what, and fight at a significant disadvantage”

• the level 20 in Damnation

[frail sand]

And then on the other end of the spectrum you have the teammates who are determined to purge until the final heretic is dead when 3 of the teammates already jumped down a drop down... and guess what, gets netted

[woeful patio]

Ah yes, the drop down dilemma

A tale as old as time

[frail sand]

like, c'mon man, the rest of the team jumped down like 2 minutes ago

[woeful patio]

I have a clip of a Zealot fighting an entire finale horde while the other 3 players are already in the thunderhawk waiting to extract

Dude went down

Walk of shame

[lucid shadow]

I developed a habit of always waiting till the last guy drops just incase I gotta step in to assist them

[woeful patio]

Unless you’re staring a teammate in the eyes as you’re dropping down you’re doing it wrong

If I see shit coming over the Horizon I’m dropping down

I won’t be crucified for someone else’s sins

[lucid shadow]

Fair lol

[quasi junco]

lol these crits are insane

thats on a failed map to

[woeful patio]

Happens to the best of us

[quasi junco]

does noone do Auric Heresy? Just damn?

[frail sand]

I'm scared of heresy

If teammates are like the way they are in damnation, imagine in heresy

[woeful patio]

Dude I just leveled my new Psyker

I fear Heresy more than Damnation

The leveling process was so painful, probably due to influx of crossplay players

The Crossplay Racism is 100% justified imo

[plucky flax]

I wish I can turn off crossplay.

[quartz barn]

thats why im heavily biased vs voicechat

[plucky flax]

I don't mind windows gamepass. But xbox console players are the worst.

[quartz barn]

most of the time its some xbox dumbass that cant move

[plucky flax]

Try spectating their controller slow aim.

[woeful patio]

There should be a toggle

I’d rather play with SteamDeck gamers than console

[lucid shadow]

Crossplay explains alot

A zealot in my prev game refused to ever turn around and just kept taking backshots from the dregs

[marsh wharf]

as an ogryn this is fucking bullshit

[split oxide]

Duelling Swords: which is best?

1. II, IV, V?
2. Is it my imagination or is Illisi better at pox/scab/dreg-clear than any Duelling?

[lucid shadow]

I prefer IV

[woeful patio]

The answer is Illisi

You are playing Psyker you will use force swords

[quick python]

the answer is knife

[woeful patio]

The emperor has decreed it

[marsh wharf]

are the soul flame builds good?

[woeful patio]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-rat-crying-rat-profound-sadness-fototeta-gif-27638214

Please just make a build

Don’t worry about what’s good

[steady yarrow]

IV is bis

[marsh wharf]

ive been trying shit out but like im genrally asking because I have no clue if something I feel is good in haz 3 is gonna come bite me in the ass in haz 4-5

[woeful patio]

Haz 4-5 just means more damage and more specialists and elites

You’ll be fine

No fear

[tulip trench]

any tips for getting started in aurics? having decent success in damnations
usually running illisi for hordes, assail + bubble for gunner rooms, voidstrike/revolver for crushers/maulers

[split oxide]

I'm a returning player - I moved from Obscurus then Deimos then Illisi.
I need horde clear - but suffering from Crushers.

[woeful patio]

Obscuris walked so the other two could run

Respect your elders

[zinc phoenix]

Ok dd/sg assail psyker is wicked fun now with ds/revolver

Now that the bugs are fixed 😂

[warm ledge]

On staffs what's warp resistance? Doesn't do as much peril buidup?

[next heart]

yeah

[woeful patio]

Yes

[next heart]

also if you go into the inspect screen on a weapon and hover over stuff like that i'll tell you what it does

[woeful patio]

Unless it’s Mobility

Which will forever be a mystery

[split oxide]

liklihood your head will pop if you clip 100% peril

[marsh wharf]

soul flame vs normal fire I assume soul has more duration?

[woeful patio]

Soul comes from warp

And blue

[plucky flax]

Pray for good teammates.

[marsh wharf]

oh its just 1:1 to fire just blue then?

[warm ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-confused-huh-wtf-gif-20911403

[woeful patio]

As far as I’m aware yes

[soft notch]

is recon lasgun a thing at all on psykers rn? I'm debating rolling one with infernus on it to deal with bosses on smite build

[split oxide]

I find I sometimes break my team strats by going ham on first encounter.
As psyker I have 'full clip' that I magdump on first dregs.

1. I nuke my first two creatures before any teammates can approach them.
2. this 'amps' them up into a competitive play
3. these days - I have to remember to 'hold back' to give them some time to 'work out their aggression' first

[spice veldt]

Soulblaze ticks slower, deals less damage per tick, and has a longer duration

it should have a better armour mod against flak than burn

[woeful patio]

Melee SoulBlaze needs something more

It’s naught more than a meme atm

[marsh wharf]

Trying to figure out how the soulblaze spread perk works though

[woeful patio]

Like it’s cool as fuck but that isn’t enough

[woeful patio]

Takes stacks on enemy and spreads to others on death

[summer prairie]

it needs to have some AoE sb explosion upon kill

[woeful patio]

The perk you’re looking for is Wildfire I believe

Top left

[marsh wharf]

Is it based on current stacks or a flat 5 damage

[woeful patio]

Current stack

More stacks means more damage

Up to…12 stacks?

They capped it for some reason I can’t remember

[spice veldt]

the cap is per application method

[marsh wharf]

the thing thats confusing me is how the spread work

because like

[spice veldt]

e.g., Purg applies up to 15

[marsh wharf]

sometimes the enemy im trying to kill is taking 81 per tick

when the fire spreads when I kill them with purgatus it becomes a whole 5

[next heart]

speaking of purg, how should i mod this

[woeful patio]

Sprint Efficiency Pog

Warp Nexus to IV and maybe damage against Flak?

[next heart]

finally i can keep up with zels

[split oxide]

Purg is no longer useful for higher levels

[spice veldt]

yes it is

[woeful patio]

I use it in Auric Damnation

What do you mean “no longer useful”

It’s a weapon

It kills

[next heart]

thats how i was leaning, i need to get a warp nexus IV tho

[woeful patio]

Crit Chance might also be nice

[split oxide]

I am surprised. Probably came out mroe dismissive than intended.
It doesn't stagger anymore - you get 6x crushers pop out of a corridor and you're scrwed.

[woeful patio]

Melee covers it’s weakness

[warm ledge]

How do my fellow staff siblings deal with Ragers? Staff shoot or use melee?

[woeful patio]

BrainBurst

[next heart]

brain burst

[split oxide]

ragers?

[woeful patio]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[woeful patio]

BrainBurst

[warm ledge]

I have smite

[woeful patio]

Then you smite them

[warm ledge]

They're the only elite that mess me up

[woeful patio]

Simple as

[split oxide]

Smite - then you rely on teammates to take them down?

[spice veldt]

LMB staggers ragers

[frail sand]

Then you should have the least problem with ragers

[woeful patio]

Smite is CC

Literally the best way to deal with ragers

[frail sand]

I forgor, does nurgle's blessing make the buffed ragers immune to smite or something?

[woeful patio]

Yes

[marsh wharf]

smite is so ungodly for the simple fact its got a faster charge time than it takes to pull out a stub

[quasi junco]

damn dome shield is practically mandatory on auric damn

[woeful patio]

Nurgle Blessing makes immune to stagger

Or at least massively ups their resist to it

[frail sand]

Every time I take dome, it's not necessary. Every time I don't take dome, my teammates cannot deal with enemy shooters at all.

[split oxide]

Smite takes ragers down to 70%

[woeful patio]

Dome is absolutely baller but using Venting Shriek to light every enemy in my sight line is orgasmic

Guns be damned you’re now on fire

[split oxide]

Yeah - i'm liking dome - but I can't seem to give up shriek.

[woeful patio]

The utility of staggering everything in front of you is very strong

Plus the BB cast reduction is amazing

Main reason I use it

[marsh wharf]

Honestly I'd use scrier's if psyker had any unique weapons to them

[woeful patio]

Use Scrier with staff bro

[split oxide]

Voidstrike for group of crushers/bulwarks.
BB is too slow. .. for me

[woeful patio]

You can quell the peril and remain in it longer

[toxic blade]

guys look at dis ax

[woeful patio]

360….

But damn

That’s a unicorn for sure

[untold widget]

mobility is trash, sell for dockets /s

[frail sand]

mobility bad, give it to me

[toxic blade]

i never tried using axe are they any good?

[woeful patio]

I don’t like personally

[frail sand]

I like the rashad mk 2 the most

[woeful patio]

Illisi my beloved

[toxic blade]

i too use mostly swords

[woeful patio]

I crave more force weapons

[pale pilot]

depends on how you like their movesets

rashad has some decent hordeclear on lights with bromentum, and the antax has a really cleave-y push attack, that as a psyker you can spam the hell out of

[split oxide]

I hate Smite, what am I doing wrong with it?
(I know about stagger before max peril already)

1. compared to voidstrike, purg it's more peril-expensive-for-cc but doesn't provide anything more unique (like BB or Assail does
2. Against ragers, it doesn't take them down on 'magdump'. It that intentded, am I using it wrong?

[split oxide]

antax for me.
No special perks, good honest attack pattern for mixed horde.

[pale pilot]

and all of them have nice heavies that can stagger a crusher out of overheads, i think

[steel flame]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO, HADRON DIDNT BRICK SOMETHING FOR ONCE!!!

[woeful patio]

Damn

Critical Bonus 52

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-bryan-cranston-walter-white-shocked-surprised-gif-4427830

[steel flame]

ik :(

[woeful patio]

So close

But useable

[steel flame]

But damn, its still one of the best surge staffs Ive gotten in a looooong time

[wide tiger]

I really like the purg to fuel my spam telekine shield build

[woeful patio]

Amazing blessings

[paper loom]

is disrupt destiny crap?

[woeful patio]

Yes

[steel flame]

Aye

[woeful patio]

Fuck

[wide tiger]

where you can get like 3 concurrent shields

[woeful patio]

It’s awful

God I hate it

[wide tiger]

man you guys... lol

[paper loom]

whats better for gun psyker tho?

[wide tiger]

i like disrupt destiny

Disrupt destiny.

[steel flame]

MODS. KICK THIS HERETIC IN THE BALLS

[woeful patio]

Warp Charges 🙂

[steel flame]

Warp Charges > all others, except for gyker

[wide tiger]

the ones you lose and have to rebuild at the start of scriers? neeeever

[steel flame]

Even then its still probably the best

[woeful patio]

Have you considered swapping your primitive projectile launcher for a staff

[wide tiger]

Scriers is so good if you manipulate the spawn to go to full stacks in a few seconds

err

[split oxide]

one fuels the other?

[wide tiger]

disrupt destiny

[wide tiger]

Yeah i like to use the purg along the talent that gives warp charges on soulblaze kills, which means if i can get to 6 warp charges very quickly, my telekine shield is very low CD, alongside killing elites/specials to reduce cd further + the aura

you can also do that with venting shriek to just keep spreading massive amounts of soulblaze

you can vent every few seconds if you get in the groove

can do it with trauma soulblaze too

[pale pilot]

yeah blue fire everywhere builds can do some cooldown shenanigans

[split oxide]

You got a tree for that? I got the tools.

[fluid wren]

the Power Up pennance should really count for any kills with a blitz instead of only brainblast, FS really picked one of the slowest blitz setups possible to force you into for that pennance

[wide tiger]

Uhh, im at work but im sure someone can hook you up, its nothing too secret

[split oxide]

np

[wide tiger]

theres only a few real lynchpin nodes to get the engine going

[unreal axle]

oh I was several hours ago in the chatlog, did someone get banned? there were a ton of messages that could not be loaded that people replied to :o

[upper galleon]

Psykers I’m curious how does the maelstrom modifier “enhanced blitz” affect assail and biosmite?

[frail sand]

something like this, specific nodes could be adjusted to your liking

[upper galleon]

I know what the BR effect is already

[zinc phoenix]

It’s too bad the toughness on kill is for warp kill

[glossy ember]

akchtually its not so bad if you preemptively stacked up perfect timing to 5

[zinc phoenix]

Need more gunker toughness on kill

Doing a ds melee thing with sg /dd and the speed holy cow

[fluid wren]

disrupt destiny is nice when it works, wish you didnt lose all stacks at once if you wait too long tho

[wide tiger]

pretty much exactly this actually, or you can do venting shriek with the applications of soulblaze

[unreal axle]

you wait a tiny bit * fixed it for you :P

[wide tiger]

You can manipulate disrupt destriny to stack to max stats super quick

[frail sand]

originally it was intended for dome spam so

[wide tiger]

yah

[zinc phoenix]

Meh I don’t mind that it’s impossible to keep the stacks up, I see it as a nice bonus rather than something to max

[split oxide]

Wait .. that not using surge.

[unreal axle]

how does this work? :o

[wide tiger]

You sit at a door and let enemies funnel out and shoot a gun

and your stacks go vrooom

[fluid wren]

forreal lol, 15 seconds feels like nothing and taking the 30 sec perc makes it feel like im just neutering the ability

[wide tiger]

because it says every second but its not, its like instantaneous after you kill a mob

[zinc phoenix]

I wish I could match SG with shriek instead of assail

It’d be wicked good

[wide tiger]

that might be a little busted

being able to give yourself that much scriers uptime

[unreal axle]

now that's nice and all, but there's this thing called teammates doing random shit xD

[wide tiger]

its just about your position relative to where enemies are spawning

[fluid wren]

yall whats a good trauma staff setup?

[zinc phoenix]

I do like assail, when I’m not in sg I try to always pop out a couple shards while stabbing so I can poke and headshot simultaneously

[wide tiger]

as long as you can isolate a single spawn you can reliably manipulate where your DD stacks will attach, could your team mates concievably mess this up? Yeah. But most people don't camp a single door with a gun

[zinc phoenix]

Blaze + warp nexus and crit chance

FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!!!!

Also perfect timing giving you warp damage instead of damage is just… why

[static needle]

these blessings good together if i put em on better roll of this gun?

[frail sand]

I have news for you...

[static needle]

its good?

[coarse bane]

Find another gun.

[fluid wren]

not a fan of sustained fire or salvo, gun is meant to hose down enemies not tap fire

[static needle]

hmm

[frail sand]

Quite the opposite

[static needle]

lul

[wide tiger]

Dumdum + deathspitter or firefrenzy would be ideal on that

also your perks are real bad

[frail sand]

The screenshot you showed is a brick

[coarse bane]

Graia is like one of the worst guns in the game.

[unreal axle]

EDIT: I forgot to reply: my fave is rending shockwave with soulblaze, so it fills two roles, it will make every carapace enemy within roughly 8 meters of the blast epicenter very easy to deal with, and on crits it will set everything in that same radius on fire :o then you just build crit with perk and talents, but I run the bubble nowadays rather than scrier's gaze since I'm playing damnation a lot

[long wharf]

hmmm Sour Milk is really tempting me today

[frail sand]

ah yes, you can craft the blazing spirit deimos

[long wharf]

both Finesse and First Target are low, though

[fluid wren]

thanks for the easy highroll mr armoury man lol

[wide tiger]

I feel like you are splitting focus there a little. I would run nexus + soulblaze to get the soulblaze more reliably, or flurry + rending to apply the brittle stacks from full charge

[long wharf]

no such thing as blazing spirit deimos

if you're going to try blazing spirite melee, do it with Illisi

much better cleaving moves

[quasi junco]

lol dealt over 1000 critical hits last match

[wide tiger]

Blazing spirit on melee is so bad now though, you crit and the enemy dies one hit and doesnt spread or get effected by the soulblaze

[plucky flax]

The only good one is blaze trauma.

[unreal axle]

yep I'm aware, it's just what I prefer, since it'll help both with hordes and beefy targets :o then I just shred those pesky maulers and crushers apart with Deimos

[quasi junco]

Yep, get that crit chance on peril and blaze blessings

crit chance perk

and shit whats the other one

[wide tiger]

fair nuff

[quasi junco]

flak

[fluid wren]

ok ok not a bad start

[fluid wren]

im liking my decent luck today

[woeful patio]

Workable

[plucky flax]

This random guy in my lobby got a decent trauma. His deimos is kinda ass though.

[wide tiger]

damn nice trauma yeah

[plucky flax]

I guess he'd just use his trauma only.

[wide tiger]

what is that fs lol

[frail sand]

hey do not disrespect the speed deimos

[plucky flax]

And only use sword for deflect.

Btw skaleek I'm playing revolver psyker this round for u.

[wide tiger]

Are you using scriers

[woeful patio]

Is that Deimos an actual skin or is it weapon extended random

[wide tiger]

show me your revolver!!!

whip it out

[plucky flax]

It's random option from the mod.

[woeful patio]

Fuuuuuuuck

FatShark drip feeding force sword skins

Cannot stand it

HATE

I CAN SEE THE SKINS ARE DONE FATSHARK WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM WITHHOLDING IT

[fluid wren]

how's this?

[ornate hamlet]

Monet

[woeful patio]

They’re gunna be ruined by an ugly ass camo anyway

[wide tiger]

Love those stats

[woeful patio]

Don’t know why I bother

[fluid wren]

warp resistance is optional lol

[woeful patio]

Not terrible for a 357

[wide tiger]

not in love with your blessings

yeah low warp resist can definitely be useful

[woeful patio]

Superiority can go

[quasi junco]

this thing has been very good to me thus far

[woeful patio]

Shred is alright

[wide tiger]

Uncanny 4 slaughterer 4 for life, im addicted

[static needle]

when running gunpsyker, is this actually reliable for quelling peril if i also run battkle meditation?

[fluid wren]

i think it just annihilates crushers at least

[ornate hamlet]

Me getting a cool knife with a vet set and getting it in forced chocolate chip colour

Gunmetal is too much to ask

[wide tiger]

Well, when im on gun psyker my only real peril gen is from scriers itself. Its a pretty small window where getting battle meditation + purloin actually matters

Its not that its bad persay, its just a smaller window then "useful all the time"

[fluid wren]

i would personally avoid that perk and go for the one further up thats just quell chance on every kill, you wanna ride along high peril anyways for damage buffs

[woeful patio]

Deadass

[ornate hamlet]

Nah

[woeful patio]

That’s a perk point that will only work 20% of the time

Invest elsewhere

[tulip trench]

does anyone actually like axes? i find them underwhelming

[woeful patio]

Maybe Kinetic Deflection?

[fluid wren]

outclassed by the mk IV duelling sword imo

[static needle]

huh? which perk is that? im doing disrupt destiny

[wide tiger]

thats battle meditation which you already referenced as having

[static needle]

ah ok

[fluid wren]

i have a decent roll i got from melk a while ago

[wide tiger]

ooooh nice

[fluid wren]

she's my pride and joy :)

[static needle]

default crit chance for psyker was what?

[thorn cedar]

pointy

[static needle]

7.5% right?

[spice veldt]

ye

[fluid wren]

poking stick supremacy

[static needle]

mmmMMMmm

[glossy ember]

thick,;

[fluid wren]

noice

[woeful patio]

Uncanny strike isn’t max

RUINED

[static needle]

ikr

anyway what is psyker's base crit chance?

[woeful patio]

breaks skateboard in half

My beloved says that information is obscured for our safety

[split oxide]

is deflector redundant now?
All the gunners wipe out your defenes in a second.

[frail sand]

deflector definitely is helpful, but so is good positioning

[woeful patio]

Deflector is amazing and any contrary sentiment will have you excommunicated

[wide tiger]

I think deflector teaches the bad habit of not sliding to gtfo from gunners personally.

[static needle]

is this even good for a laspistol/mk 4 duel sword build? should i keep this or anticipation?

idk tbh

[wide tiger]

I think deflector is a trap, seems like an unpopular opinion

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

[wide tiger]

That node is amazing....

[frail sand]

deflector depends on ur loadout/playstyle

[wide tiger]

like... amazing

[ornate hamlet]

Laspistol basically makes it so you have a crit ghost

[frail sand]

if u like deflector as an defensive option then sure it's amazing

[fluid wren]

deflector is nice when you arent running a shield

[static needle]

ye thats what i was guessing just wanted to make sure

[fluid wren]

gunners can be a real pain without either

[ornate hamlet]

Deflector is a very useful tool to have when you're not running crit

[wide tiger]

That's also basically ranged supression immunity if you are running a fast firing crit gun

[split oxide]

they created more gunners to make TKshields relevant.
the number of gunners makes deflectors melt.

[ornate hamlet]

It saves you in a pinch

[frail sand]

remember when deflector against ranged also worked on revive?

[wide tiger]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

Wish that was the case

[wide tiger]

People were telling me that it still works now

[ornate hamlet]

Big if true

[wide tiger]

that would make me consider using it against tbh

[bold maple]

Should make deflector a talent node tbh

Instead of gatekeeping it in force swords blessing

[woeful patio]

Dueling Swords with Deflector 🤤

[static needle]

for a laspistol/mk 4 duel sword build, should i go with left tree instead?

[spice veldt]

definitely not the left tree

[wide tiger]

Gunker for life but the quell is pointless

i wouldnt go anywhere left

[weak galleon]

fcking finally.
Bloodthirsty still good on Illisi?

[wide tiger]

warp rider is fine because you do hit max peril from scriers but after that those points are wasted

[ornate hamlet]

I'd get the node below warp rider or whatever is the middle

[static needle]

sooo quell speed not worth it?

and the -5 peril generation?

[wide tiger]

Well when are you actually quelling when youre a gun psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

Aura radius is okay, but mostly for extra points

[static needle]

when i need toughness and need to do horde control

[frail sand]

You want the opposite of quelling usually

To maintain high peril if even possible

[wide tiger]

You'll have to explain, why would you quell for horde control?

[glossy ember]

wth i keep crashing when entering missions

[static needle]

cause assail

[wide tiger]

I see

[static needle]

eats a lot of peril

[frail sand]

do u have... weapon customization?

[glossy ember]

yea

is new version glitched

[static needle]

lololol

[frail sand]

Are u on.. the newest newest version?

[wide tiger]

Your build is a bit different than mine

[glossy ember]

yes

[wide tiger]

I dont run assail as a gun psyker + scriers

[glossy ember]

but i was doing fine today earlier

[wide tiger]

i run flayer

[glossy ember]

guess i'll remove weapon custom

ty

[ornate hamlet]

A suggestion I could make is

[thorn cedar]

You can throw Assals at 99% perils. Within that 1% is all you really have to work within

[spice veldt]

it's 4 points for Solidity which is questionable point efficiency, but solidity only affects active quelling so you're in control of it

[frail sand]

I'm 2 versions behind and it's not crashing at all

[ornate hamlet]

Get rid of the regen node on assail

[frail sand]

You can just get the old version

[ornate hamlet]

Get EP

Abuse true aim with melee

[glossy ember]

eh whatevs

[static needle]

i feel like it helps a ton with horde control in tense situations, there could be better stuff tho

[wide tiger]

nah man its all about your preference

[spice veldt]

assail is nice to spam out for toughness regen as gunker

[wide tiger]

nothin wrong with it, i just find that assail and scriers dont mix super well

[frail sand]

at the end of the day, if it suits your playstyle then it's going to be more effective than whatever "meta" there is

[wide tiger]

which is ironic i guess ince they are in the same side of the tree

[static needle]

with -5 peril generation its actually kinda managable tbh

[ornate hamlet]

My assail is essentially for human ranged and to thin the horde a bit

[upbeat parcel]

assail with scriers you're choosing quality over quantity

[ornate hamlet]

I don't meet ranged enough to need assail cooldown

[static needle]

tru

maybe dont need it tbj

[wide tiger]

i just magdump my column V in scriers and everything is dead

[ornate hamlet]

I also use revolver, so it covers some of the territory assail has

[bold maple]

And I felt like I meet ranged all the time lmao

[ornate hamlet]

But assail also allows for the toughness on warp kill

[bold maple]

Runs bubble 24/7

[upbeat parcel]

for scriers do I go for revolver or laspistol

[wide tiger]

i mean... revolver

[ornate hamlet]

So if you pull out a really strong one with EP and crit, you can fire a dart fast and do a lot of damage

[wide tiger]

but thats not a slight against las pistol

revolver is just... pretty strong rn

[ornate hamlet]

Then go back to using an actually engaging weapon

[upbeat parcel]

the first thing I think of is revolver too I just hear laspistol with crit is nutty

LMAO

yeah laspistol is kind of boring to use

[static needle]

should i run anticipation or warp rider...? Im thinking warp rider is prolly best? I have a very aggro playstyle tho so not sure

[upbeat parcel]

always warp rider

[static needle]

heresy

so anticipation isnt good?

[upbeat parcel]

I talked shit about laspistol and the one person that uses it in this chat got summoned

no anticipation is good

but warp rider is TOO good

[ornate hamlet]

Tbh I think dueling sword with gun needs assail and warp/peril nodes to not die horribly

Well, except cavalcade weapons

[wide tiger]

warp rider i think is almost always in every build i have

its pretty accessible

[static needle]

should i sacrifice -5 peril generation for anticipation? i think i will...

[ornate hamlet]

Cavalcade is a toughness farm

[upbeat parcel]

I would drop the left node from your aura

[ornate hamlet]

But weapons with cavalcade have awful crits

[upbeat parcel]

u don't need that

[frail sand]

-5% peril gen is like nothing

[static needle]

ye...

[upbeat parcel]

I forgot what it's called but it's not that impactful

[spice veldt]

anticipation is not good unless you only care about the +1 dodge

the dodge duration bonus does not work like you'd expect and is essentially not working

[static needle]

should i run mettle or +15 toughness? i have 1 toughness curio and run +5 tougness on all curios

[wide tiger]

sadface

[upbeat parcel]

how does the dodge duration work?

[ornate hamlet]

Between anticipation and empathic, get empathic 100%

[static needle]

proof?

[lunar hollow]

dont tell me its doing something stupid instead of just not functioning

[static needle]

between anticipation and extra toughness?

[upbeat parcel]

it's fatshark so if you tell me something is not working I fully beleive it

[ornate hamlet]

Empathic evasion, tbe ranged immunity on crit

[wide tiger]

with fatshark its usually not working as expected

[spice veldt]

remember when crab was remarking on how dodges have 3 parts to it and that anticipation was at best providing a very very marginal improvement to dodging against ranged

[lunar hollow]

[spice veldt]

I don't think it's doing anything stupid

[upbeat parcel]

[spice veldt]

just not working

[plucky flax]

@wide tiger was good team so it went fast. Only 25 mins for a maelstrom. I took 0 damage though.

[upbeat parcel]

spaghetti code strikes again

[lunar hollow]

+1 dodge is pretty pog

if psyker didnt like

only have weapons with 4+ dodges

[upbeat parcel]

I miss my infinite dodge force swords

[spice veldt]

and same dodge stats as zealot

[upbeat parcel]

[lunar hollow]

i dont

that shit ruined my muscle memory

[static needle]

ur saying it's not needed?

[lunar hollow]

anytime i played fs

[lunar hollow]

nah

once u get like 4+ dodges the effect of adding more dodgecount is getting diminishing returns

[spice veldt]

clearly we should give Psyker the same dodge stats as vet to make anticipation useful

[static needle]

how about mettle? good perk to use with scriers??

[lunar hollow]

dude i can't stop playing weapon specialist because melee spec improves dodges

[upbeat parcel]

me trying to remember perks by name

[lunar hollow]

yes

mettle is very good

[woeful patio]

Force Swords are 5 dodges

You silly little goober

[plucky flax]

Guy with the nice trauma staff got less ranged kills than me.

[wide tiger]

is how i built my gun psyker

[lunar hollow]

the only top tree talent i avoid is warp expenditure

[woeful patio]

In his defense it’s a trauma staff

[wide tiger]

of course

[upbeat parcel]

man taking BB just for the passive I'm sick

[woeful patio]

Aiming it is ass

[wide tiger]

Nah, you can still BB normally too.

but why

cause guns

😛

[woeful patio]

1 free BB every 15s

LAME

[wide tiger]

Hey man, its gun or melee

[woeful patio]

Gun is cringe

[wide tiger]

shrug its a monster

[woeful patio]

I don’t use them on principle

I have access to the horrors of the warp and you expect me to use ammo

[static needle]

should u always stabby stab with mk iv duel sword or sometimes slash to get crits for mettle maybe?

[upbeat parcel]

my ammo is my sanity

[upbeat parcel]

stab for single target slash for horde clearing

[stone yoke]

why do so many people love the purgatus staff, its kinda underwhelming

[wide tiger]

gun psyker life

[ornate hamlet]

Laziness

[upbeat parcel]

it does it's job well at low effort

[spice veldt]

Purg is purg

[hot zephyr]

What should I replace on this? I already replaced limbsplitter with decimator. Or should I essentially leave as is?

[stone yoke]

yeah but assail doots exist too

[spice veldt]

can't really go wrong with it

[wide tiger]

Look at me guzzle that ammo down

[upbeat parcel]

assail does clear better at even lower effort

[wide tiger]

more more

[ornate hamlet]

Oh look, I can stare at the fire bloom and see nothing, but I get big kills on the scoreboard

[stone yoke]

plus if i run assail i can bring the zapping staff, purg just seems kinda shit

[ornate hamlet]

Imagine playing to not see the game

[plucky flax]

Do purg players get high score?

They always do really low damage.

[ornate hamlet]

It's good, just incredibly dull

[wide tiger]

Yeah they can

its just soulfire spam

and mostly trash damage

[stone yoke]

which is better single target, void or surge

[frail sand]

I like watching things burn, what can I say

[plucky flax]

Melee weaposn kill horde faster than purg can burn.

[wide tiger]

melee weapons do not have the range a purg does

so no not really

if the illisi hit 20 feet out per swing then yeah

[ornate hamlet]

Void gets nasty numbers and penetration, but charges slower and needs aiming

[upbeat parcel]

hard to say but I would say crit Void is too nasty

[plucky flax]

I can't remember ever being impressed by a purg user since patch 13.

Like 'wow really glad we got this guy burning stuff'.

[wide tiger]

I mostly just use the purg to fuel warp charge generation for cdr if im being honest

[upbeat parcel]

I'm impressed by how they kill my frames

[wide tiger]

voidstrike and trauma are superior, imo

[stone yoke]

i havent got a crit build, i just need a general single target damage staff

[wide tiger]

but still viable to purg

[ornate hamlet]

I can change that

[upbeat parcel]

if you're not investing skill trees into it I would say surge performs better

[hot zephyr]

Purg is definitely my quickplay build. No one will be mad that you just burn everything down

[wide tiger]

My favourite is when someone brings a purg to that scab only auric maelstrom lol

[rustic tapir]

How do I get back to playing other classes after being spoiled by the bubble's invulnerability to all them karkin' gunners?

[wide tiger]

thats just the best

[upbeat parcel]

u don't

psyker for life

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is a lot better for melee maelstrom.

You can actually kill bulwarks and crushers horde.

[wide tiger]

yeah i mean

purg is awful

for scab only

it does nothing, was the joke

[bold maple]

Untrue lmao

[frail sand]

you don't like slowly cooking melee dudes to death?

[wide tiger]

it just makes me laugh

I mean, how long does it take you to kill a crusher with the purg

[upbeat parcel]

does purg LMB push crushers

[plucky flax]

No.

[wide tiger]

uhh, not usually

[bold maple]

people dont get how to use purg and whine about how bad purg is

[upbeat parcel]

rip

[bold maple]

you dont m2 and hold it in 1 direction waiting for horde to die

[upbeat parcel]

LMB on purge pushing everything is the best part about it

[wide tiger]

pretty useful for ragers

but then... voidstrike and trauma do that too, but better

[stone yoke]

why push a rager when you cna just kill them

mind doots decimate them, you can fry them with surge, or stab them with a warp strike from deimos

[wide tiger]

Hey, im with you. Why CC something when you can just put it in the ground

ultimate CC

[stone yoke]

the best crowd control is killing the crowd

[plucky flax]

[stone yoke]

doot eternal

[plucky flax]

It's tru purga requires very high skill ceiling.

I am just not good enough.

[wide tiger]

huh

high skill ceiling eh

its 2 buttons and very little aim im not sure how high a skill ceiling it can be

[bold maple]

yeah I had this convo about purge on this chat several times already

[wide tiger]

I think my main problem with purg is that its so good at trash clear but we already trash clear so well with the illisi

[bold maple]

get lots of cunts trying to be smartass about how purg dont 1 shot insta kill

ill skip having it again

[spice veldt]

Purg isnt just trash clear

[wide tiger]

hey if you run flayer sometimes it does 1 shot insta kill 🙂

[spice veldt]

flak and maniac take damage from Soulblaze as well

[wide tiger]

It isnt but i find thats where it excels

Sure but id rather just voidstrike em dead

[spice veldt]

it is absolutely not where Purg excels

[wide tiger]

I disagree

[spice veldt]

ok but we're talking about Purg for the moment

[wide tiger]

Right but contextually other options matter

[spice veldt]

let's establish the fact that I think Purg is not as strong a trauma and voidstrike and move on

anyways

[wide tiger]

because saying its an anti flak weapon or anti maniac weapon and then putting it up against those staves makes it kinda fall flat

sure

[spice veldt]

Purg has infinite cleave and you're going to make the best out of it against enemies with high hitmass

[bold maple]

not as strong yes, gets tiring hearing about these original opinions about “death is the best cc” like they’re the first to ever think of that tho lmao

[wide tiger]

Bulwark shields blocking it is also kinda sad

infinite cleave but a range of like what, 20m or ft or whatever unit of measurement DT uses

[bold maple]

when 2 of your team are down and everything is up your ass

[wide tiger]

I think the purg is just fine, im not saying its bad, im not saying its good either

[bold maple]

void and trauma dont have time to charge

[wide tiger]

uhh

you can like

not charge them

and still get the cc

[spice veldt]

I'm not bringing it to premades

[bold maple]

purg m2 spinning spam covers everything and keep the dot going while you kite

[spice veldt]

but for the level that pubs are at, I'm very comfortable with bringing Purg to pubs

[wide tiger]

i like that trauma a lot

Yeah like i said, i use the purg to fuel my CDR build with telekine shield

it works really well for that purpose

having 2-3 concurrent shields is a blast

clears shotgun/rager packs competently

maulers too even

But one thing I notice when i purg

my "lesser enemies killed" is always super high

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it just anti-everythings so well it's great for quickplay where you're joining an in-flight mission most of the time

You just make any team better

[wide tiger]

The purg struggles with crushers, so its not quite anti-everything

[stone yoke]

ok, doots struggle on malice

maybe smite would be better?

[wide tiger]

god i hate smite

[idle bay]

@plucky flax i figure out why your videos hit me so good. We play very similarly. (especially that material's picking). But you make a lot better tactical decisions and use movement techs a lot better . Perfect learning materials for me.

[plucky flax]

Cheers. It's what many many clutches (both successful and failed ones) did. Let me analyse situation and always try to put myself in the best one in case things go bad.

[hot zephyr]

Dumb question: Does quietitude regen occur from passively quelled toughness? Or only active quelling?

[spice veldt]

from both

don't worry, it's not a dumb question, because quietitude used to not work with battle meditation

trust no one

[tawdry pasture]

returning after release, flame staff with bubble is just silly support

teams just flock to you like "bubble me papi"

[idle bay]

My problem is - in tough situaltations my brain switches to "Leeeroy Jenkins" mode. And i can't help it 🙂

[surreal eagle]

The bubble is really great for coherency lol

[plucky flax]

I only do that on zealot or ogryn due to their tankiness. Also I value my life over helping downed/cc'd teammates a lot more. If I survive I might be able to clutch. If I try to save someone else and go down then there's less chance they can clutch it.

[stone yoke]

im teh opposite way

[hot zephyr]

Thanks, trying to figure out what improvements I can make to my gunker/SG/DD crit/weakspot build

[plucky flax]

Noooo you gotta be shellfish in war.

https://tenor.com/view/youre-selfish-thats-selfish-shellfish-whelk-underwater-gif-21556046

[stone yoke]

im a psyker that, if i think its needed, i will entirely disregard my life to let the team escape

i once continually tazed a daemonhost so my team could reach evac, since we didnt have a shield ogryn

[tawdry pasture]

imagine stacking wounds for tactical self explosion

you think someone would commit self die for the sake of their team like that?

[stone yoke]

not even that, i am entirely willing to enter suicide missions to let the others escape

[idle bay]

I remember pulling only one good clutch, where i was able to reach 3 teammates to save them. Saved them and we were immidiately was steamrolled by swarm of elites that were following me...

[tawdry pasture]

wikipedia.org/wiki/Autothysis

[stone yoke]

i will fistfight a daemonhost and taze it if it means slowing it down so the others can hit evac

[stone yoke]

honestly kinda that

if we run for evac and a daemonhost gets triggered or a chaos beast shows up, i will fight it solo to let the others run

[tulip trench]

whats better in auric? bubble or stun shield?

[stone yoke]

i have fought them solo just to save teammates

[plucky flax]

Ouch. That's a tough one cos sometimes it's better to ress. But in that situation it's when if there's an ogryn then ress him first for additional cc. Too often people ress the wrong class first, like a vet, and then he immediately goes down. XD

[high yarrow]

is there a website that has good builds on it for Darktide? just seeing tons of outdated shit

[idle bay]

It was ogryn first. But there were too much biomass to deal with. And that tiny room was immidialtly coverd completely with fire by bomber as soon as final resce was complete 🙂

[plucky flax]

Ah well then nothing that can be done. I think FS should make smoke nade with the gimmick of putting out fire.

[stone yoke]

reviving a smite psyker is a good idea

[plucky flax]

Like CS2. XD

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-palpatine-star-wars-gif-17950416

[stone yoke]

ye

psyker is the last class i tried, im loving it

ogryn is my second favorite, then zealot, and vet is shit

[proven stirrup]

I think I'm just gonna purge my bags and farm heresy

[idle bay]

Give it plasma, build into it. Forget about keystones. That way vet feels powerful.

[proven stirrup]

I have nothing worth keeping or pouring mats into anyway

[plucky flax]

Psyker is my last class to level to 30 but now it's my 2nd most played.

Eventually it'll overtake my zealot to be #1.

[tawdry pasture]

players coming back to res me because i was afk talking to the beloved:

you just got a free carry

[glossy ember]

does this only affect the melee weapon

or can you dodge with melee to trigger this and swap to ranged

[spice veldt]

i assume it only works for melee

I know that that there's melee-specific crit chance, at least

[glossy ember]

darn it all

[timid kelp]

very fun indeed

[zinc phoenix]

The Vraks feels pretty bad with assail imo

You already have assail for precise stuff

Columbus and the spray and pray gives some horde clear

[sweet veldt]

So whats the psykers "beloved" all about?

[zinc phoenix]

Probably delusion maybe emprah

[ornate hamlet]

Well, vraks is hitscan and doesn't flail wildly

[spice veldt]

and better single target

[upbeat parcel]

is this a W or a L

[tulip trench]

pen could be better