psyker-class

[proven stirrup]

It has to otherwise serve a different purpose mechanically

[kind jay]

hey look, lightning hands are already approved. nobody said i cant shoot it out of my ass

[snow dust]

Says who? Left click for trauma was stronger than the right click for the longest time. /joke

[spice veldt]

doesn't have to be strictly weaker

[proven stirrup]

The purge staff is the prime example

[spice veldt]

depending on how whacky they want things to be

[fading iris]

don't said that outloud, or they will change surge again

[proven stirrup]

You're hard pressed to kill anything with the LMB but it stops most shit in its tracks and thus has value

If you want the LMB to be a different style attack, it has to have a massive shift in application and usability

[brave fiber]

as someone who uses purg on like 90% of missions i use m1 just as often as m2, theyre both very great, i wouldnt say either is stronger or weaker

[proven stirrup]

the tricky part is that once you get to that point, you'd wonder why this isn't just a whole new staff

[spice veldt]

could make a surge variant with lightning bolt LMBs that mark targets and an RMB that does something with that and so on

[brave fiber]

just better at different things

[ornate hamlet]

I think it could just serve a different purpose

[proven stirrup]

That's my point. Again, they serve two different purposes

The lmb doesn't do as much damage or stack as much burn

But it staggers hard

[brave fiber]

well you said specifically that the m1 has to be weaker than the m2, did i understand wrong

[proven stirrup]

It has to be weaker in some specific way

[brave fiber]

ah ok

[proven stirrup]

LIke yeah

Say, ah....

The trauma staff for instance

[lethal lagoon]

This target is glowing with lightning, but it's not smite, so let's all attack it
I like that idea though.

[proven stirrup]

It has aoe, it can clear very quickly.

But maybe the left click could, instead, be a slower to fire single target snipe of some sort

It wouldn't be a charge or anything but t would have a windup you'd need to adapt to.

[fading iris]

What we need are guns that shoot small staves that explode according to their type (void, purge, surge, trauma), we can call them something different, like blessed bu... oh

[lethal lagoon]

Assail staff, basically bolter.

[brave fiber]

see i dont think thats the best approach, thats going back to the "staffs shouldnt be able to do everything" argument, and i think m1s should be more complementary than cover a base that the m2s dont

[proven stirrup]

It was just an example

[fading iris]

maybe that big box in the left with small boxes inside of the part 2 blurry preview are new weapons.

[proven stirrup]

Well, specifically, an example of how the lmb/rmb paradigm is "supposed" to work in my point

[azure bridge]

how consistent is the voidstrike staf blessing that shoots a second projectile on crit?

[proven stirrup]

It's not like a specific thing I wanna see

[brave fiber]

yeah i gotchu, i just like talking about what staff m1s could be

its something at the top of my wishlist for updates rn

[proven stirrup]

I don't really expect them to go back and reworks staves

I do expect them to take this to heart with future designs

[fading iris]

because of my bad eye, sometimes for an split sec I read m1s as mfs and that turns the phrases funny

[brave fiber]

creating new m1s for the staves doesnt seem like a monumental task, though i doubt theres enough outcry to actually change them

[spice veldt]

hopefully the play testers are pushing them about the staffs in this respect

[proven stirrup]

It's not about how hard it is so much as it changing the balance scheme of the weapons to the point it needs retuning

[smoky turtle]

Only thing I want changed about staves is for the special melee combos to be able to kill stuff
I get that they're basically an afterthought and I also don't want them to replace a real melee
But having them be almost purely cosmetic is kind of stupid

Alternatively let me duct-tape a flashlight to my magic warp stick

[proven stirrup]

Making the left clicks more interesting and strong is one thing

Making them more interesting and strong while not having them end up ridiculously broken is another

[azure bridge]

I'd like a boss killer staff that isn't surge

[brave fiber]

with how the new skills released I think it would be fine for things to start out op, and change over time

or even weak

[proven stirrup]

Yeah no, not with this community

[fading iris]

spamming LMB to be able to see is a real problem

[proven stirrup]

People here get fucking stupid about this game real fast

I'd rather they just not fuckin do it at all

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is a boss killer? I mean the last hotfix buffed it's boss damage, probably on accident, but I wouldn't call it a boss killer.

Or do you mean Voidstrike with surge

[brave fiber]

theres a hard disconnect between actually playing the game and talking about it on discord tbh

[azure bridge]

Yeah i agree

[smoky turtle]

It's not even doable via the weapon customization mod

[fading iris]

That is the best part

And never forget to ** ++ SPREAD THE WORD ++** about the best curios

[lethal lagoon]

The general community thought EP surge bug wasn't OP... Completely agree with "not this community" lmao.

[brave fiber]

with how (fittingly) schizophrenic psyker chat is, i can see people getting annoyed tho

[smoky turtle]

My beloved says not to worry about the extra voices, just tune them out

[brave fiber]

my beloved actually refers to psyker chat

lore

[smoky turtle]

Terrifying tbh

[proven stirrup]

Yeah. Far be it from me to cape for Fatshark but They're at least trying their best, despite their shortcomings

Gamers at large though? Zero patience or respect

[ionic sorrel]

There is a plasteel option for curios?

[fading iris]

no but I will meme it into reality

thiccsushi will hear my call

[proven stirrup]

I just dislike how people act about anything they do most of the time so I want things to be as frictionless or generally positive as possible

LIke, the class overhaul for instance

[brave fiber]

the single reason im playing the game a lot again

[smoky turtle]

I run +10% inquisibucks on all my curios because brunt empties my wallet

[proven stirrup]

Hardly perfect but it slapped so hard the misfires and bugs are generally minor

[brave fiber]

genuinely quit darktide after like a month after release, came back after class overhaul and i play it nonstop now

[proven stirrup]

Legit

[smoky turtle]

same here tbh
that overhaul changed everything

[proven stirrup]

I kinda did the same

My blessing collection reflects that :V

[brave fiber]

before i would choose vt2 over darktide in no time, now i think i genuinely prefer darktide

[proven stirrup]

To be honest, I'm pretty sure Darktide has made me a better VT2 player

[fading iris]

the overhaul was the motive that I finally clicked the buy button

[brave fiber]

i wasnt even hyped up for the overhauls either, i just saw the announcement 2 days before it came out and was like "huh, ig ill try it again"

[fading iris]

that is how they getya

[tawny raptor]

what are the ideal surge perks?

[brave fiber]

nexus flurry

oh

perks

[fading iris]

whatever you have problem with it and isn't an skill issue

[brave fiber]

uh, flak and maniac area pretty great

[tawny raptor]

aight bet

[brave fiber]

i used to run crit chance, but the damage helps out so much

cant go back

[tawny raptor]

wb blessings?

[languid tusk]

I discovered a secret revolver combination: weakspot and crit damage

universal perks

[brave fiber]

^

[tawny raptor]

kk

thanks fella

[brave fiber]

npnp

[fresh reef]

Doesn't surge only have 4 blessings though?

[fading iris]

I run with crit chance and flak because of the way I play, at the end there is almost no bad choice, and the ones that are "bad" you can spot from eons away

[fresh reef]

The other two being..
Run 'n' Gun, and Barrage

[lethal lagoon]

I assume you are trolling, but it's "secret" for a reason

[brave fiber]

i just like maniac because it makes maniac one-two shots a lot more consistant

but if youre a gambling man crit chance is nice

[fading iris]

5, with one only having tier 2 and another having only tier 3

[lethal lagoon]

Flak and unarmored are definitely the standard for surge atm. But honestly, you can do whatever.

[tawny raptor]

i got maniac and crit rn

[brave fiber]

flak is essential tho

[tawny raptor]

damn fr>

i can still change it so we aight

[lethal lagoon]

You can always drop a screenshot of your chosen staff and ask for advice that way.

[brave fiber]

surge is one of those staffs that can perform well with a lot of different perks, you just gotta decide what you want to be killing easier

flak just helps with A LOT

[smoky turtle]

tbh unless it's gonna oneshot maniac damage on weapons feels weird to me
Most stuff that isn't ragers or mutants don't need damage bonuses to die immediately and muties get dunked on by tons of stuff already
So it's really just.. ragers? And only one of the two variants
Like it for sure has its place as a bonus but I don't get slapping it on everything

[fading iris]

sprint efficiency to quell your need... your need for speed

[lethal lagoon]

You forgot flame bois

[smoky turtle]

They die to everything and stagger at a soft breeze

So ???

[lethal lagoon]

They also probably cause more wipes than anything else

[smoky turtle]

Just poke them during their wind up
No fire

Like seriously everything staggers them

[brave fiber]

Flamer > Poxburster > Grenadier fire true combo

its insane how often it happens

[smoky turtle]

poxburster but it spawns in a pair so when you push the first one the second dives through it to kill you

[fading iris]

[smoky turtle]

But yeah flamers are a serious issue when they're in a group
No argument there, it's scary
I just don't think bonus damage to kill them is the right response given their fragility

[fading iris]

always nice when the AI director gets drunk and escalates in the most wtf ways

[brave fiber]

id say it mostly helps with all the other maniac type enemies that the surge hits

the tankier ones that dont die if you dont crit

[smoky turtle]

I guess
If you hit them at all then they're no longer really a threat either because they're dead or on the ground struggling to get up at 2HP
I agree it's not ideal but personally I'd rather go with something like carapace for tough enemies that your teammates may have problems killing, or boss damage where sustained output is most impostant

[brave fiber]

carapace only works on crushers with surge

which sucks

[smoky turtle]

Crushers are in fact that much of a priority threat

Also carapace + flak allows you to get bonus no matter where on a mauler surge bounces to

[kind jay]

i prefer cara on mine

[brave fiber]

i dont think so to the extent of using an entire perk slot on them imo

[smoky turtle]

This is how I feel about maniac type enemies :)

[brave fiber]

also it doesnt bounce, they fixed it

[smoky turtle]

oh pog

[brave fiber]

chest only

[smoky turtle]

Anyway personally I have flak + unyielding on mine for muh boss damage
It's not gonna compete with a Zealot or Vet but it's still pretty good
Most matches I'm only a thousand or so damage below top vs bosses so I figure it's helping somewhat

[brave fiber]

with how many people have anti-crusher tools in auric damnation, i feel safe not taking carapace damage over flak + maniac or unyielding

[olive ember]

what does carapace on surge even do?

I assume helps hit the 2 shot breakpoint

I guess

[smoky turtle]

Ye

[brave fiber]

yall are 2 shotting crushers with surge?

[smoky turtle]

Kinda weird how crazy good flak bonus is though
Feels almost like it shouldn't even be an option because everything in the game wants it

[steel flame]

I usually have an entire weapon for crushers. A perk slot ain't nothin

[brave fiber]

honestly based fuck crushers

[west stream]

nothing like hitting headshot breakpoint for flak dudes

and just high noon'ing a gunner patrol

[unborn flicker]

https://youtu.be/3BsXnvwTuoA?si=zwH_vdg3mo9Jm5wj

[west stream]

that bonus really helps with some weapons

[swift prawn]

pst, what do i want for dueling mk4? Uncanny+what?

[thorn cedar]

uncanny twice

[brave fiber]

precog or riposte

(i like riposte)

[steel flame]

Rampage

Oh. I've also finally gone and made a link for my laspistol build

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aadc034-4e30-4a58-ba43-c9764d62a2f0/crazed-laspistol-crit-psyker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Much easier than posting screen shots

[olive ember]

what is that name

Get rid of anticipation, that thing is like a debuff more than anything else, just get either quick assail recharge or another toughness gen perk i guess

@steel flame ^^

[proven stirrup]

Or they can fix it instead???

Oh you're talking about someone's build my bad.

[steel flame]

Yeah yeah, I know. The assail recharge is a wasted slot so I'll probably do perfect timing or more toughness

[plain rune]

anticipation is still good

extra dodge matters

[steel flame]

The extra dodge is still there. Just been too lazy to do an alternative

[bleak tulip]

thought the extra dodge doesnt work

[plain rune]

what is dodge duration

it isnt range

so it must be bad

[bleak tulip]

iirc that part is currently broken

[chrome patrol]

Invincible frames?

[plain rune]

then its op af

extra frame

can stay invincible all the time smh

[chrome patrol]

Was just a guess

[vapid lichen]

dodge doesnt even have iframes does it

[bleak tulip]

nope not really

[vapid lichen]

it just makes enemies lose their lockon

[bleak tulip]

theres some more it does but yeah generally

otherwise you could dodge crusher overheads

[plain rune]

you can

[bleak tulip]

no I mean inside the aoe

[plain rune]

still can

[spice veldt]

you can

[plain rune]

there is this stupid little thing

[bleak tulip]

so them losing tracking means the aoe doesnt go off or what

[plain rune]

actually i will leave it to you to figure lol

[vapid lichen]

earlier i baited a crusher overhead onto my teammate

no regrets

[spice veldt]

dodging can both break tracking and have the I-frames effect

it's just that, for melee, the game makes an extra check for how close you are

[vapid lichen]

interesting

[spice veldt]

and some attacks have a longer dodge catch like rager combos, so you can't spot dodge those

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ZsChcKG__MbdB/d13373IYUWX7?invite=cr-MSxyV00sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[bleak tulip]

I thought the only thing it gives "iframes" for was ranged

[spice veldt]

hopefully this is the right clip

[vapid lichen]

HUH

[spice veldt]

my internet is too bad to preview it

[bleak tulip]

yeah I saw this should be

[thorn cedar]

arco

[vapid lichen]

oh ur dodging into the crate?

[spice veldt]

hi exploits

[thorn cedar]

what is the highest possible crit headshot right click assail possible

[spice veldt]

uhh I haven't tried

[thorn cedar]

sorry im summoning u like Alexa

[spice veldt]

I got 1.7k on patch 13 on a crusher with uncanny, DD, +elite, and +cara before

so some number above that with the RMB

[spice veldt]

is ok

josho does it too

so ur just like josho

a war criminal

[bleak tulip]

a deep insult

[thorn cedar]

shit you got me take me to the hague boys

[plain rune]

josho is smart and cool

unlike majority in this chat

[bleak tulip]

simp

[plain rune]

would

no regrets

[thorn cedar]

Man Assail is disgusting. But it's so fun.

[plain rune]

i leveled up another psyker

just to spam assail on sedition for milk credits

[bleak tulip]

as in it checks after the dodge or something

[spice veldt]

during probably

I don't know the specifics but that's how crab explained it and I'm boiling it down to the game adding a distance check

the unintuitive thing is that the distance is on a per-attack basis

and there's some lag compensation in real games (in the player's favor) for certain attacks in multiplayer games, so there'll be some discrepancy between real games and testing in the psykhanium

[bleak tulip]

this shit reminds me of the fuckin leeches' mechanics in vt2

[azure fern]

Going shriek/smite should i go emp psi like i did bubble smite, or should i go warp charge?

[bleak tulip]

I dont really respect EP smite personally

alyways charges imo

or DD if you like pain like me

[azure fern]

I made pretty decent use of it

With quell peril on kill, you could keep it going for a bit longer

[bleak tulip]

I'd rather have damage personally

[azure fern]

well yeah, that's what im trying now

[bleak tulip]

also fwiw lets you smite shout more often

[azure fern]

wat

[bleak tulip]

smite and then creeping flames what youre smiting

[azure fern]

yeah

[bleak tulip]

charges gives you CDR so you can actually do damage while smite more often

so its not just a safety net

[upbeat parcel]

warp charges don't do anything to smite but if u have a good staff it's what I recommend u use

[bleak tulip]

I mean yeah

[azure fern]

i have voidstrke so

oh lord two knife zealots

[upbeat parcel]

if u have voidstrike u don't even need a skilltree tbh

[azure fern]

i am going to have to stun all the hordes

[upbeat parcel]

bro I would leave

LMAO

I don't fuck with stealth vets and zealots

I'm sure they can carry but I'm not about to have all the aggro

limit of 1 stealth player per team

[azure fern]

We also ahve bb psyker

[vapid lichen]

i play both of these

someone got really mad at me the other day

it was hilarious

[upbeat parcel]

I'm sure you're a gamer with it but out of 10 stealth players I see, 8 of them are bad

[zinc phoenix]

Smite feeds peril to shout so you can reee on cooldown and the charges let you reee on cooldown more frequently. The damage from all the fire is not small

[manic halo]

so is disrupt destiny broken or something? ive noticed that sometimes even if i kill multiple highlighted enemys i wont get a stack

[bleak tulip]

nah it works now

[zinc phoenix]

It’s 🐿️ y

[bleak tulip]

(it always did)

[manic halo]

so its just not showing me getting the stacks visualy?

[upbeat parcel]

maybe your teammates are killing them before you

[bleak tulip]

should

[upbeat parcel]

fuckin ur stacks gain

[bleak tulip]

been running it for like two weeks

[zinc phoenix]

So long as you didn’t mind walking through walls to find the glowing enemies hiding inside them

[manic halo]

No i swear

[vapid lichen]

i played a few rounds with disrupt destiny earlier and it worked fine

[zinc phoenix]

Or the many times it would tag something that got left behind at a zone transition and then nothing would ever be tagged again

[manic halo]

it seems to only happen if a vet is on the team and is using that marking key stone

[azure fern]

2 knifelots did not work out

[manic halo]

thats my accecdotal experience anyways

[vapid lichen]

no shot did fatshark fuck that up

[manic halo]

ill see if I can record when its happening in a match?

[vapid lichen]

lmfao that'd be so funny

[upbeat parcel]

that was fast

[manic halo]

cause i know im killing them because it gives me the toughness regen

[static needle]

With a good team, is 3 wounds even good?

[manic halo]

but not a stack

no

[bleak tulip]

no

its never good unless youre marty

one at most

[azure fern]

we died just after the dropdown on the assassination torrent mission with the bridge

5 crushers and gunners behind them

[vapid lichen]

run 0 wounds always and then just never die

[azure fern]

one zealot died after i started quelling

[upbeat parcel]

wound curio is a training wheels

remove em once you're confident

[azure fern]

BB psyker died earlier

was alone and didnt keep up

honestly they felt like heresy players

[static needle]

i mean if u have 3 in total

so is it even worth running 1 wound?

[zinc phoenix]

I’m confident I’m bad and therefore only use the base 2 😎

[vapid lichen]

i saw a psyker with a total of 5 wounds and no bonus hp last week (150 only)

[upbeat parcel]

it is if you expect to go down in a match

[bleak tulip]

whu

[upbeat parcel]

but having curios to stop you from going down in the first place

is better imo

[zinc phoenix]

I pound that shit up to 240, discount ogryn

[vapid lichen]

they got dogged for 2 seconds and lost a wound

[static needle]

meaning one curio w +1 wound

[vapid lichen]

i could not believe my eyes

[visual adder]

Psykers are

A class

[bleak tulip]

yeah what about it, you can run it if you arent comfortable or fall over still

[vapid lichen]

wait what's base toughness on this class i never actually paid attention to it

is it 90

[bleak tulip]

I dont personally run wounds but its fine to do

[visual adder]

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[bleak tulip]

if youre not comfortable with a difficulty or something

[upbeat parcel]

3+ stamina curio enjoyers where u at

[bleak tulip]

[static needle]

eh u dont need it if u run kinetic deflection

[upbeat parcel]

kinetic doesn't affect dodging and shoving though

it can be a life saver

[vapid lichen]

i have two stamina with knife

might need to buy a stamina curio

[violet yoke]

Best defense in game is not getting hit

[bleak tulip]

dodge doesnt care about stam either really

[violet yoke]

Being able to out run and make space is huge

On a psyker

[static needle]

do u need stamina for dodging?

[bleak tulip]

and the amount of times I didnt have stam for push with psyker stam regen being as fast as it is I can count on one hand

[upbeat parcel]

U don't actually my mistake g

but shoving is yuge

[bleak tulip]

all dodges do is stop stam regen for like .3 seconds

[manic halo]

Im not insane i swear, if you have a vet with that keystone and the team has stacks

you wont get distrupt destiny stacks

[vapid lichen]

ur name isnt making ur case any better

[manic halo]

https://tenor.com/bUEsR.gif

[vapid lichen]

i wouldnt put it past FS to fuck that up though

[visual adder]

Ok schizo

[upbeat parcel]

no reliable way to test that

[static needle]

Is it worth running carapace on this instead of flak?

[upbeat parcel]

keep flak imo

[static needle]

why tho? i just headshot stab all flak guys anyway

[upbeat parcel]

ideally you're not using your melee on crushers

[static needle]

lol ideally i am

[upbeat parcel]

though u can if your built different like that

[manic halo]

IF I HAD FRIEND

I COULD

[bleak tulip]

I mean thats one thing that mk4 is really good at actually

[upbeat parcel]

ye but like

[bleak tulip]

you can run cara on it

[static needle]

yea exactly

[upbeat parcel]

I would rather be using staff

[visual adder]

[static needle]

im doing gunpsyker

[bleak tulip]

it can make you hit two shot crusher BP I think

[manic halo]

ARE U WILLING

[visual adder]

Yes

[manic halo]

ok i shall get on again

[static needle]

"bp"?

[visual adder]

Wait no fuck them asia servers

[fading iris]

Only friends you need are 3x of this

[bleak tulip]

breakpoint

[peak carbon]

anybody wanna get together for the redacted penance that has you deal 90% damage to a monstrosity?

[manic halo]

https://tenor.com/bPEo1.gif

[visual adder]

https://tenor.com/view/gnomed-gnome-youve-been-gnomed-gif-16782193

[bleak tulip]

you should love yourself now

[manic halo]

anyone else miss BB giving stacks every time?

thats the one thing I miss about old psyker

only thing really

[bleak tulip]

no I literally havent used BB since patch 13

fuck that shit

[manic halo]

Fair lolll

With how high health everything is now + how many high damage builds there are for classes

I can feel like BB just aint worth it

[fading iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EqaekCD_uQ

[visual adder]

Hey

[manic halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814243094039232532/1079947245874577409/trim.02DDC021-0735-40FB-8A75-0724DBFD761E.mp4

[smoky turtle]

I get a lot of utility out of BB tbh
It depends a lot of your ranged weapon and your team of course
If your team is on top of it and hates specials, you probably will never use it
If they're slacking, you can really rack up the kills with it

[manic halo]

yes

[visual adder]

Ur dumb

[smoky turtle]

BB is also real good for finishing stuff tbh
Like if your team is on top of crushers then you can save them some ammo by letting them take it to half while charging, and then the BB removes the other half
kinda just happens organically too which is nice

[upbeat parcel]

last time I used BB

a plasma gun vet killed all my targets while I was charging up

[smoky turtle]

in those cases I tend to save it for straggling specials
trapper from behind? Charge when you hear the audio, pop the second they appear
etc.
But yeah as mentioned the better everyone else is, the less you'll have to do with it

Also useful if an enemy is far away moving through cover
They might be only visible for half a second at a time, but that's enough to latch onto their skull for a guaranteed kill no matter where they end up

Idunno, I just loik it

[upbeat parcel]

ye I may talk shit about BB

but it's still solid

[harsh urchin]

It should still hit all the important oneshot thresholds iirc

Like non mutant maniacs, gunners, shotgunners etc

[sacred crane]

i love playing support psyker!!!

[solar sand]

is there a way to change peril noises, or a mod at least, the 90% noise is soooo loud

[harsh urchin]

Play what u enjoy lol

[sacred crane]

possibly, unsure though

[harsh urchin]

If someone is raging at you in heresy

Then they just suck too much to carry

[sacred crane]

very much tru

[bleak tulip]

peril fx in acessibility iirc

[solar sand]

yeah cause that makes sense lol

thanks

[cosmic sigil]

it's still relevant in sniper gauntlet 😄

[west stream]

The downside of stat mods is that people are not watching their performance but others

[solar sand]

i just like it when the numbers are real big

[wet compass]

How would you save it?

[cosmic sigil]

illisi > exorcist to unstable or deflector or uncanny strike

carapce to maniac

psword mk6, sunder to brutal momementum

and practice the block activate push stab l4

[fading iris]

git gud

[timid kelp]

is this worth upgrading? roulette hasn't been kind to me

[fading iris]

nice damage

[cosmic sigil]

it's worth tbh

blue it at least

[harsh urchin]

As long as finesse is close to perfect, and other stats are decent

It is worth

[timid kelp]

............

[cosmic sigil]

😄

do you have plasteel left?

[timid kelp]

1k 🤠

[cosmic sigil]

stop here

you'll come back later

[azure bridge]

anyone got any experience with rending flurry trauma?

[timid kelp]

what do I want on it?

usual flak/maniac?

[cosmic sigil]

yeak flak maniac is good, elite is not bad so it all depends on your next perk

[timid kelp]

hmmmmmmmm

gamble time

I will be back with results stand by

[cosmic sigil]

@spice veldt ?

[azure bridge]

trying out trauma that isnt blaze trauma

looking for thoughts

[cosmic sigil]

Arco is a trauma user

@plucky flax too but more on the blaze side

[zinc phoenix]

Guess it’s can opener trauma for you

[azure bridge]

yse

[zinc phoenix]

The sad boring version of cool people trauma

[surreal eagle]

That's the trauma I use

[azure bridge]

opne sec in mission

yeah basically lokoing for how effective it is and how brittleness works

[orchid nest]

brittleness is just rending except for your entire team basically. it works well

doesn't do much for the trauma itself though

[digital narwhal]

Keep getting people that are "calling me out" for running Gun Psyker/

Apparently it's "bad for the team"

Like

What would they have said if a Zealot joined the team?

They use ammo, too.

[eager mantle]

The ammo economy isn't an issue with a single vet. Also everyone could do better with watching their ammo

[cosmic sigil]

i still do not understand how can people be so narrow minded

[cosmic sigil]

even witthout a vet

or ammo aura

[eager mantle]

As a gunpsyker I just choose the optimal times to whip out a gun. Assail and melee will do most of the job throughout a run if ammo looks like it can be an issue

[cosmic sigil]

unless it's melee scab, yeah okay, ammo is useful

[digital narwhal]

Exactly

[eager mantle]

Yea gunpsyker into that is not the call imo

[cosmic sigil]

well, you can run smite + revolver

[orchid nest]

people stuck in the launch months mindset probably. it'll take some time before they understand. you're fighting the good fight by queueing as it and helping to normalize it

[cosmic sigil]

and use the revolver on the occasional menace

but a staff would probably be more appropriate yep

[digital narwhal]

I'm a big fan of Combat Knife + Columnus IAG + Assail

[cosmic sigil]

i only use ammo aura on vet in melee scab

[digital narwhal]

It's got giga DPS

(against anything that's not a Monstrosity)

but even then

Knife does work

[eager mantle]

I just need a better revolver. But the vet weapon specialist revolver is fun. 1 stack for 1 free bullet to whip out in a horde when you see a bomber or sniper

[cosmic sigil]

scrier + iag does serious boss dmg

[digital narwhal]

Ye, but I try to use my Knife mostly

Flesh Tearer + Uncanny Strikes goes hard

[cosmic sigil]

if you pair it with unyielding and +5% crit (and maybe dumdum + raking fire)

[eager mantle]

Haven't tried scrier knife. Dueling sword too fun atm for me and force sword bullet blocking. Give me a force dueling sword with bullet blocking

[long wharf]

Columnus IAG with SG is top dps for psyker right now

frankly, it's a bit busted

[digital narwhal]

And people still say Gun Psyker is bad

Like

Sure

[eager mantle]

Right now bouncing between Columnus IAG and Laspistol.

[digital narwhal]

Staffs are cool

But they’re slow

[long wharf]

see, here's the thing

[cosmic sigil]

staves are a tool

[long wharf]

I want to play space wizard

[cosmic sigil]

guns are a tool

[eager mantle]

Guns are also make funny noises

[cosmic sigil]

you got choice

[long wharf]

magic warp powers

[untold widget]

I think my main problem with gunker is lack of aoe

[eager mantle]

Get into a match, "so what staves are you guys running? I have surge"
"Void"
Me: "lead"

[untold widget]

if everyone is single target, the teammates tend to get overwhelmed

[cosmic sigil]

venting shriek then... it;s what i used before patch 13

[untold widget]

but every gunker build is scriers gaze tho

[cosmic sigil]

nah

[digital narwhal]

Perilous Combustion and Assail are very strong on Gun Psyker

Both provide great horde damage

[untold widget]

assail is only marginally aoe, to be fair

[digital narwhal]

But it’s still great

[cosmic sigil]

my gunker is ep assail + true aim

[hasty pier]

Assail is cringe tho

[long wharf]

SG was designed specifically for gun psykers

[digital narwhal]

True Aim + EP Assail is very strong

[hasty pier]

still cringe

[digital narwhal]

No u

[cosmic sigil]

my illisi is aoe close dmg

[harsh urchin]

Its not bad but just worse than vet at using a gun 😂

[long wharf]

you wrote "cringe" when I'm sure you meant "ton of fun"

[digital narwhal]

It’s cringe to call things cringe now

[untold widget]

I still won't run gunker in auric dam

[harsh urchin]

SG is not a very good skill mechanically

[eager mantle]

So what does your tree look like to fit perilous combustion in?

[hasty pier]

I meant that to be a reply

[orchid nest]

you can do bio-lodestone EP with assail if you want it to be more consistent aoe, since it still has the unlisted effect of piercing 3 more targets for an empowered shard and every shard is reasonably likely to proc one in a horde situation

[eager mantle]

It's fun and still works

[digital narwhal]

Doesn’t Gun Psyker have cracked DPS with IAGs when stacking buffs?
Whilst also having much better Toughness Economy than Vet, and they have Empathic Evasion and better movement speed.

[cosmic sigil]

no

[harsh urchin]

Yes but so does vet lol

[digital narwhal]

Vet can’t face take 12 Gunners (without Ghost)

Psyker can

[hasty pier]

grumble grumble you used to be able to grumble grumble

[untold widget]

its fun, but when the teammates all die because I'm not deleting the majority of the rooms with magic warp fire, then it doesn't matter how fun or good it is

[long wharf]

being able to do free dodging for a full second every time you crit is amazing survivability

[eager mantle]

Counting as dodging with constant crits during a horde is amazing

[digital narwhal]

While regening Toughness on Crit too

[long wharf]

that too

[eager mantle]

You're not being a good gunker than if things are still alive

[hasty pier]

old confirmed kill XII with suppression immune vet used to be able to just stand and deliver

[long wharf]

the Columnus just tears enemies up stupidly fast

[digital narwhal]

Psyker has better movement speed, better survivability, and better sustain than Vet.
Vet has better ammo economy.

[cosmic sigil]

how god, so zealot must use flamer then?

[eager mantle]

Why?

[hasty pier]

Psyker has best ammo economy what are you talking about

mind bullets

[digital narwhal]

I count Peril towards sustain

[harsh urchin]

Because the cd doesnt tick while it's still active

That's the main issue

[long wharf]

using no ammo for your build means you have no ammo economy

[harsh urchin]

Executioners got that change reverted

[hasty pier]

I mean with quell node and good canceling you don't often have issues managing peril

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, that’s just one thing they have to change

[cosmic sigil]

that is my main problem too, and this is why i tend to not used it

[digital narwhal]

Otherwise, it’s kind of cracked

[eager mantle]

I don't count that as "bad mechanically"

[harsh urchin]

But SG has that issue mechanically

[long wharf]

with gun psyker and SG, you literally never care about actively quelling

[hasty pier]

at that point why not just play vet 😄

[harsh urchin]

Considering executioners was completely unuseable before the cd change was reverted

[eager mantle]

Because with scriers you can technically stay in it for however long you can quell it

[hasty pier]

That's me though. Vet is for guns. Psyker is for magic

[harsh urchin]

Its pretty easy to say its bad mechanically lol

[long wharf]

to which I agree, which is why I play psyker without guns

[eager mantle]

Definitely overreacting on the executions

[harsh urchin]

This isnt the issue

[digital narwhal]

Scrier’s Gaze is very strong outside of that one issue, which I’m sure they’ll eventually change

[long wharf]

that doesn't realistically happen, though

[harsh urchin]

The main issue is the buff uptime

[spice veldt]

ramping peril increase be like

[long wharf]

once you hit full 30 stacks with SG, the peril gain continues accelerating over time

[spice veldt]

and the main bonus that you get from scrier's gaze for a good portion of it is just the crit chance

[hasty pier]

I'm sitting here trying to build double blaze psyker and suffering with the sword rng

[harsh urchin]

Is simply bad due to it being a flat 30s baseline downtime

[long wharf]

it quickly gets to where you cannot possibly stop it from getting to 100

[spice veldt]

it is the one ult where there is a downside to using it

[long wharf]

at release was the best time to play melee soulblaze psyker

[spice veldt]

and you can only exit scrier's gaze when you hit 100% peril

[eager mantle]

Are we really bemoaning a 30s downtime?

[harsh urchin]

Yes lol

[hasty pier]

I was no lifing vet and not abusing power sword at that time

[digital narwhal]

I do think being able to end it manually would be nice

[harsh urchin]

Thats pretty bad

[untold widget]

if you use Psykinetic's aura it can cool down quicker, but yeah

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hasty pier]

release PS was legit mind numbing

[spice veldt]

it ultimately depends on where they go with the ult

[harsh urchin]

If the cd was longer but psykinetics aura could tick it down while you had it on, it would be so much better

[long wharf]

especially if you have power cycler

[steel flame]

e fatshark be fatshark and forgot to make warp siphon apply when an ult doesn't start cooldown immediately

[hasty pier]

literally cleaved through multiple crushers lmao

[spice veldt]

but if they want to keep its current power level, then I'd just up the uptime on scrier's gaze

[harsh urchin]

But in its current state, i think the cd needs to be lower

[eager mantle]

Now that oversight should be addressed

[hasty pier]

Well at least I can still slap slaughterer on it

[cosmic sigil]

25s would be fine

[long wharf]

nah fam, SG doesn't need reduced CD

[hasty pier]

I wish Obscura was better because I actually like the sword model

[steel flame]

If you enter SG at 100% peril so it ends instantly warp siphon DOES apply

[harsh urchin]

Yeah, that or increase to 45s and tick it while its on

[eager mantle]

Lmao

[cosmic sigil]

get the weapon custom mod

[harsh urchin]

Either change would help it a ton

[long wharf]

honestly, I dislike SG entirely

[steel flame]

Sounds like something a heretic would say

[harsh urchin]

The biggest problem is that it doesnt scale

[spice veldt]

i'd like it more if it were more involved

[hasty pier]

I had issues getting mods to work last time I tried and haven't put the effort into messing with them since.

[cosmic sigil]

what were your issues?

[long wharf]

the idea of having an ability focused around using guns really dilutes the psyker experience, IMO

[harsh urchin]

Compared to vets where if you kill more shit you can ult more

[spice veldt]

i'd be fine with it being an ult that bumps up your neutral game by a mild amount in exchange for peril generation

[surreal eagle]

Sorry if you already got the answer, but the brittleness just works like rending except for anyone hitting the enemy. If you go over the cap you get like 1/4 of the added damage. For your damage with trauma, it's pretty negligible. However, it can be really helpful for your team if they're using a weapon that isn't good against carapace and you've just blasted a group of crushes.

[eager mantle]

So the 10s after SG is over, is that all of the base effects or just the dmg bonus for the secs you were in it?

[hasty pier]

can't remember. This was in like late Jan or something

[harsh urchin]

Or if it was like a berserk mode

[spice veldt]

latter

[cosmic sigil]

that is age ago man

[hasty pier]

They're probably better understood and better resources now

[digital narwhal]

The ramping damage

[quasi junco]

Just use SG with a staffs LMB 😛

[harsh urchin]

Like barbarians have in video games

[cosmic sigil]

the mod scene has matured

[harsh urchin]

Where u take more dmg but do massively increased dmg

[long wharf]

I'd rather stab myself in the spleen

[hasty pier]

Yeah it ain't my first time around the block modding

[surreal eagle]

I normally Q with friends so the brittleness is very nice

[harsh urchin]

I think that would be pretty cool

[steel flame]

I press button, I hit harder, I go faster, my brain is happy. What's not to love. I'm a simple guy

[hasty pier]

I'm just incredibly laid back lol

[digital narwhal]

I like Gun Psyker though tbh

[thorn cedar]

sg dd is just fkn fun

[untold widget]

what do we think of this as a gunker build?

[digital narwhal]

I think not supporting using guns when a majority of the loot pool is filled with them would be annoying

[quasi junco]

Competing for ammo with a vet who shoots plasma at a lone poxwalker

[hasty pier]

He said strongest Ogryn, not the smartest guys

[azure bridge]

I think i'm liking it better than blaze trauma al things considered

[steel flame]

Oh no, variety. SCARY

[long wharf]

it's not the variety I object to, but a blurring of the lines between the classes

just like I don't like that both zealot and vet have a "ghost" ability

[hasty pier]

Imagine being able to fry someone like a microwave with a glance and packing a pistol instead

cringe

[long wharf]

psyker honestly should have much fewer gun options

if it were up to me, I'd remove all two-handed guns from the psyker

[cosmic sigil]

imagine being a melee vet? a support zealot? a... somfin somfin ogryn?

[hasty pier]

Vet Ghost should be an AoE to distinguish it from Zealot change my mind

[long wharf]

and the force staves should all be variants of a single archtype

[eager mantle]

Lame

[hasty pier]

Or at the very least make it "flanking tactics" and make it an AoE speed boost / animation boost or something

[long wharf]

and the blessings should all be things that happen on-crit or on-hit

[cosmic sigil]

the revolver is one handed

[steel flame]

I like being melee vet........ BAYONET OR DEATH

[harsh urchin]

They already dont have access to heavy guns lol

[long wharf]

giving secondary effects or behaviors to the staves

[hasty pier]

Melee vet is actually great though

[harsh urchin]

They have no brauto or bolter

[long wharf]

the psyker has a ridiculous number of ranged options

[potent echo]

Aoe stealth, you mean bardin cloud?

[harsh urchin]

You have only the small and mid size guns

[hasty pier]

Oh fuck I forgot lmao

[timid kelp]

oh no bro

[quasi junco]

I honestly love that as a psyker I don’t give a shit about 66% of the pickups in the game

[cosmic sigil]

imagine being good at melee without stam problem and a cracked psword now

[potent echo]

Make DT VT2 again

[quasi junco]

Powers words are mid. I’ll take a shovel anyday

Swords

[cosmic sigil]

salvageable

[hasty pier]

Force Shovel When

[cosmic sigil]

just put slaughterer and uncanny

flak is good and elite is not bad

[steel flame]

If you take guns away it brings psyker weapon pool to the smallest in the game. Go yell at fatshark to make more staves. I'm sure they will listen this time for sure

[long wharf]

Force Seps.

[cosmic sigil]

mk6 is very good

[timid kelp]

can I do deflector and uncanny? I like the gimmick

[cosmic sigil]

borderline busted

[eager mantle]

Force Dueling Sword

[long wharf]

and Force Kins.

[cosmic sigil]

if you keep the perks you can test whatever combination

[quasi junco]

Except when you find yourself overwhelmed in a mixed horde on Auric

[cosmic sigil]

so it is at least a good test weapon

[timid kelp]

tru

[untold widget]

Giv Beem staff plz

[quasi junco]

Shovel staggers crushers mid swing

[eager mantle]

Bayonet stabbing ragers is 😌

[steel flame]

If you take my laspistol away I will murder you and everything you love

[cosmic sigil]

so it's either a shout, or grenade

[long wharf]

pistols are one-handed

[south spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/mischief-gif-25377870

[cosmic sigil]

and the activated slash stagger

[long wharf]

active quelling should be something psykers can do at all times with any gear they're using

[cosmic sigil]

i use infiltrate and close range dmg to take care of the mixed horde if needed be

[compact spindle]

Ima come in here and say it: If you're a smite psyker and you don't use smite while 2 ppl are down and a vet is trying to revive people, instead you use the surge staff to do jack shit to a horde, You're a piece of shit

Cost us the whole game

You have a stunlock the crowd button

[eager mantle]

Let me duel wield assail and a laspistol

[compact spindle]

fucking use it

[south spruce]

Here is the problem… they are smite players

[quasi junco]

Good thing I run BB and don’t have this issue

[long wharf]

sounds like you should go complain to the idiot directly, instead of bothering everyone here

[steel flame]

I'm sure that will cause exactly Zero balance issues

[compact spindle]

Nah I've seen it a lot now

[eager mantle]

I love when I do use smite while someone is down, no one rezs them

[compact spindle]

Psykers not doing psyker shit

YOU GOT SPACE MAGIC USE IT

[long wharf]

hold my beer while I go into the zealot channel to tell all of them how stupid they are for not using their holy icons when they have them

[steel flame]

Pew Pew pew

[eager mantle]

All the laspistol blessings affecting assail shards

[compact spindle]

it's a valid point

[spice veldt]

no

[long wharf]

typical FartShack coding

[quasi junco]

I like BBing random bruisers while that sniper gets EZ shots

[untold widget]

Yeah, I love my smite build, but the amount of times I CC an entire room and watch every teammate sit there missing shots while dodging left and right it pains me

[steel flame]

They already do. You just swap to laspistol while they are in the air

[cosmic sigil]

it saved me 2 rez yesterday, so yeah correct use of the appropriate tool is nice

[steel flame]

Well minus infernus

[spice veldt]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

infernus doesn't work on the shards? shame

[eager mantle]

Infernus or a node that adds soulblaze to all blitz would be cool

[open pike]

My psyker powers are only for impressing people with party tricks at the bar

[compact spindle]

Yeah I only came here to talk bc this is the psyker channel but it 100% goes the other way around I can't tell you how many times I've stunned an entire horde only to see an Ogryn taking on a crusher alone and two vets lookng for plasteel or some shit

[steel flame]

Ive never seen a crit shard light anyone up personally

[compact spindle]

Really I just hate stupid people

https://tenor.com/view/javier-bardem-anton-got-it-think-about-it-ok-gif-17428218

[spice veldt]

i ignore smited hordes because I would prefer that the horde just bunch up and come to me

you're dealing constant damage to the horde anyways and are going to eventually kill it

[steel flame]

Kiwi needs to chillax baby

[untold widget]

you run out of peril before it dies

btw

[spice veldt]

so i'm just like, whatever and I'm not going to walk around to every enemy

[untold widget]

throw a grenade

[long wharf]

go to their channel and tell them, then

[spice veldt]

they can quell and smite again

[harsh urchin]

That means you're using it wrong

[compact spindle]

Which channel is the stupid people one

It's not Ogryn

[long wharf]

whichever one you're in.

[untold widget]

when I'm CCing a room, they're already bunched up

so

idk what to tell you

[compact spindle]

Dude just hit me with a fifth grade insult

[spice veldt]

idk what to tell you that they're not always bunched up

you little jack shit

[south spruce]

Here is the answer: everyone has a little stupid

[long wharf]

the problem with Smite users is that most of them think that their job is to smite large groups of things at all times

[untold widget]

when other psykers do it, maybe

[compact spindle]

It's a rant to start a conversation and it did in fact start a conversation

we talkin

[steel flame]

I mean a scrier is space magic. Your just a psyker that has the super luck power

[long wharf]

too many times I've had to tell a smite user to stop shocking the horde as it approaches us

just let the enemies come to us, christ sake

[untold widget]

a smite psykers job is to hand free kills of large things to the dps while keeping the little shitters at bay for a bit

[compact spindle]

I prefer to smite any and all ranged infantry

and of course your crusher/rager waves

It really isn't the horde that kills the team, it's those fellers

[steel flame]

I'm not gonna lie. I kinda miss the hate circle jerks for assail more than these new smite ones

[untold widget]

because my smite charges up True Aim. Which then I can use to blazing trauma the horde and evaporate it from existence

[spice veldt]

not letting enemies bunch up is annoying when your teammates do happen to know how to use your weapons

[compact spindle]

I'm just saying

[untold widget]

you aren't supposed to be horde clear

[compact spindle]

Any time an assail user uses it, the game goes easy

[spice veldt]

well, like you said, you have another weapon on your ranged/melee slot

smite and trauma the horde, like you said

[untold widget]

yeah

so while I'm doing that

[spice veldt]

i'm not walking to every groaner and poxwalker

lay off smite for pure hordes

[untold widget]

KILL THE CRUSHERS AND BULWARKS THAT ARE DANCING IN ONE SPOT FOR 10 SECONDS

who said smite is for pure hordes?

nobody

[spice veldt]

I assume that hordes refers to trash enemies

unless explicitly stated that it's mixed hordes

[untold widget]

smite is for elite packs

[cosmic sigil]

i like when the elites and specials are paralyzed

[untold widget]

you get free kills on elite packs while the horde is kept in one spot

[long wharf]

I mean, if you have trauma on-hand, smite becomes a backup tool for when you can't quickly enough stop a group from mugging your team

[harsh urchin]

You dont really need to smite every elite pck either tbh

[untold widget]

once the elites are done, the horde evaporates with trauma

done

[cosmic sigil]

makes the job easier

[harsh urchin]

Most of them you can just kill

Faster

[steel flame]

My smite is rated E for everyone

[potent echo]

Trauma also stuns all elites though

[untold widget]

you absolutely cannot kill them faster while dodging their downward overheads vs them standing still

[potent echo]

You can if there are two people doing the killing

[steel flame]

Dueling saber COUGH

[untold widget]

sometimes, yeah. 60% charge and above with a perfect center strike

its still faster when they're smitten

smoted

[potent echo]

I assume you aren't running flurry?

[steel flame]

Stop trying to seduce the heretics

[untold widget]

I am

[long wharf]

smited

smote

[potent echo]

Then it shouldn't be an issue

[spice veldt]

top 10 reasons to show the outer blast radius on the trauma

[potent echo]

Trauma alr sacrifices some damage for control

[untold widget]

theres no argument against killing smited packs of elites. It's always going to be faster when you don't have to dodge incoming damage. Always.

mathematically

[spice veldt]

the argument is pub teammates

[untold widget]

^^^

you're a pub teammate then

if you ignore smited elites anyways

[spice veldt]

I'm talking about smited pure hordes

[untold widget]

I'm sorry, I just assumed you would ignore all smited enemies like most pubbies

[spice veldt]

I do kill smited crushers/ragers/maulers

unless it's just 1-3 and I just leave them

[untold widget]

you're actual cance then

lol

cancer*

[spice veldt]

i mean my other 3 teammates are there

if I'm not nearby I'm just going to ignore them

[untold widget]

other 2, one is the psyker holding the ogryns down

[spice veldt]

and everything else around

it's extremely safe

i don't see why I need to be there

for 3 crushers/ragers/maulers

[untold widget]

well I'll just let them go and you can get snuck up on then

[spice veldt]

unless it's just recon lasgun teammates with no anti-cara

[spice veldt]

sure

good thing I'm not a shitter at the game

i'll just let my 2k hours carry me through

[ornate hamlet]

One argument I can make regarding the killing speed of stunned elites is that someone is stunning them instead of attacking them

Good players will judge if they can handle the elite crowd or if it's a situation that truly demands losing one person's damage output in favor of safety

[potent echo]

True darktide gamer

I wish more people play like that

[spice veldt]

annoying teammates who always want you to be in coherency

[potent echo]

And not just steal other's fun

[spice veldt]

and they like to just pipe up about it in vc

[potent echo]

Krak the crusher you kill with 2 hits

Like thanks bro

[spice veldt]

game's not going bad, team didn't wipe, and we're at a good pace

and clearly I'm being problematic by not being dogged/trapped/playing fine

[coarse bane]

God damnit, Surge 4 on a Trauma staff. Wish that was transferable to Voidstrike.

[spice veldt]

just for being more than 10m away from my team

[potent echo]

Usually "stick together" is a synonym to "help me im scared"

Just don't be scared

[untold widget]

coherency is a mechanic

[potent echo]

It indeed is a mechanic

[spice veldt]

getting plasteel is also a mechanic

[untold widget]

for a reason

[spice veldt]

getting out of known areas where enemies will drop down and surround you from is a mechanic

[potent echo]

Bomber and bursters are also mechanics, maybe in their previous lives

[untold widget]

and when you're out of coherency, here comes the extra spawns

[spice veldt]

I'm not sticking with the team if they're making batshit positioning decisions or if there's no threat at all

[ornate hamlet]

While there are some mechanics to coherency, like the veteran's wacky DR non-aura and zealot's benediction, but ideally every class is made to work on its own

[potent echo]

Standing next to pox bursters doors

I just stand back and watch 3 catch purple

[spice veldt]

good thing that spawns have a bias towards the lone player

[ornate hamlet]

The team didn't die because I didn't give them 15% toughness DR on my zealot, it died because somewhere something was shit

[thorn cedar]

i dont stay in coherency and i dont stay outside of coherency. i follow the whimsical winds of destiny wherever it may go

[south spruce]

I just play the game

[untold widget]

I guess I've never gotten matched with you arcotash, because everyone that goes out of coherency ends up needing saving in my games

[south spruce]

[untold widget]

and I'm the one who has to do it

[kind jay]

what, you don't like to fight in the middle of carnival finale because (insert weird reason here)?

[ornate hamlet]

I've seen people get completely fucked by a crowd of elites and this one dude blame me in the chat because I was like 30 meters away from them

Like brother

[spice veldt]

pub teammates

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not the one that's parallel to the ground now

Shut the fuck up

[spice veldt]

my point is that, if a game isn't going bad, people should just shut the fuck up

[thorn cedar]

i can confidently say that arco is in the at least like 90th percentile of the playerbase in skill fr

[ornate hamlet]

Though in a way, people blaming me for 3 others going down is a very pleasing compliment

It means I have enough impact in their safety to prevent a wipe

In their eyes, at least

[orchid shadow]

Huh, does the game just let you bypass the interrogator mini game if you take too long? Just had a game where we were pinned down with a useless bot and Hadron said something like, "Very well, I'll do it for you" and the door opened. I don't think anyone was able to even get close to the console to do the puzzle.

[ornate hamlet]

Big if true

[spice veldt]

and unfortunately, people will have different goals in games

i'm going to get plasteel that's not risky

[ornate hamlet]

Man

[spice veldt]

and I want my mats

[thorn cedar]

my objective is to kill the blue boy

[ornate hamlet]

I get plasteel in the middle of crowds

I'll stop focusing on 6 crushers because I saw a cylinder with a wax seal

[fresh reef]

team dies to basic melee
only then does the game decide to spawn 8 scab ragers
Why must I suffer in this way

[spice veldt]

i don't play games to only have 300 plasteel picked up each game

[south spruce]

One must imagine Sisyphus happy

[fresh reef]

My giant boulder is 3 randoms whose collective level is below 100

[south spruce]

I understand

It never ends

[glass prairie]

guys should i just take the warp flurry or turn this into something good

[long wharf]

slap blazing spirit on there instead of sustained fire

[south spruce]

It’d pretty good to keep

[glass prairie]

ill upgrade those two to see what i get

why do i always get terrifying barrage aaa

i want the darn

brittleness

[potent echo]

Is this real

[wanton sandal]

:d

[west stream]

Hadron has become more hands on since shipmistress brahm started eavesdropping

Gotta make sure Varlets survive attention from a rogue trader

[potent echo]

Old crone vs older crone

[azure bridge]

yo rending shockwave trauma staff is hella fun

how have I been sleeping on this

[potent echo]

Their conversation at the start of carnival, do they hate or like each other I can't tell

[kind jay]

brahms prob doesn't give a crap

[orchid shadow]

The only other explanation I can come up with is the zealot did it in stealth. But holy crap, that whole area was filled with bombs and fire and maulers.

[long wharf]

I find this to be far more likely

as otherwise, I'd expect someone would have reported on Hadron's ... "proclivities" before now

[orchid shadow]

I haven't played Zealot for months. I knew they could stealth revive, but if they were able to do the minigame 3 times in all that chaos seems, that's crazy.

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the emperor protects

[potent echo]

They probably had the extended invis

[foggy breach]

It's only 6 seconds though

[potent echo]

Sometimes its enough as the enemy needs to reaggro you and then start their long windup attack animation

So in practice its usually more than 6

[spice veldt]

top 10 strat to make use of the bug with shroudfield to repeatedly retry the interrogator and refresh your stealth duration

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/shroudfield-instant-cooldown-bug/87744

[long wharf]

"Steps to reproduce: activate and walk forwards"

ahhh FartShack, never change (just kidding, please do)

[azure bridge]

are wounds curios worth taking?

[balmy patrol]

On a sparkhead? 1, maybe

if you don't run vent, it helps if you oops yourself

[azure bridge]

double toughness then wounds I guess?

[echo turtle]

Depends on what you need

[azure bridge]

I find I go down to unfortunate BS every now and then

[visual adder]

PSYKER CHAT
YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES TO SEND FUNNY MEMES
BEST MEME WINS A STEAM KEY

[balmy patrol]

i run wounds + stamina + whatever

personally find that psyker's base hp/toughness are low enough that if you mess up you're going down anyway

[long wharf]

this sounds like a scam

[edgy ibex]

Its real he did it twice

In two chats now

[balmy patrol]

if you run the node that allows you to gain peril for blocking instead of using stamina, having more base stamina helps

[visual adder]

Ask in zealot and ogryn chat, they already got their games

[balmy patrol]

the peril gain is proportionate to your max stamina

[azure bridge]

I do run that one...

[long wharf]

no thanks, I'd rather not risk being offered a key to "Sex with Hitler"

[azure bridge]

I guess max health can go for stamina

[visual adder]

lol its not bad games

[balmy patrol]

stamina is a good pick, then, the peril you gain from blocking is scaled based on your max stamina

[visual adder]

is good games

[edgy ibex]

He gave away lego incredibles and evil within

Been good games

[half iron]

skibidi toilet simulator 2024

[visual adder]

no no

good games only

[long wharf]

Doki Doki Poetry Club

[edgy ibex]

The possiblities are SWKOR and two others

SWKOR is a good game

[half iron]

skibidi toilet simulator 2025?

[hidden crystal]

Messing up peril is one of the few cases where a wound curio makes sense. Otherwise, extra health does much more for your survivability - not going down in the first place is better than relying on your team being able to rescue you.

[visual adder]

swkotor
mortal kombat
dead island riptide

[edgy ibex]

Its all for fun

Every chat enjoyed so far i vouch

[visual adder]

psyker chat trusts nobody

damn

[long wharf]

this is the wrinkled brain chat

[visual adder]

ok off to vet chat i suppose

[half iron]

some siblings do not even trust each other

i don’t trust any veteran

[potent echo]

Is this even keeping with the rules for this discord

[long wharf]

right? asking for people to flood a channel with memes

[edgy ibex]

A mod allowed it for a short period earlier then it stopped

Its in the spirit of thanksgiving

Case just wanted to let people have fun, I won in zealot but gave it away

[ruby plover]

stop having fun god damnit

🤓

[long wharf]

the emperor doesn't reward fun

[half iron]

i’m the only one allowed to have fun. goober.

[visual adder]

bUT I DO

[long wharf]

fun is the slippery slope to heresy

[balmy sundial]

would you all recommend eating tier 3 warp flurry or tier 3 warp nexus on a trauma staff? i dont own either at the moment

[vestal tree]

...do I need surge

[potent echo]

You think I use discord to have fun?

[zinc phoenix]

Emprah rewards popped skulls

[vestal tree]

for voidy

[hidden crystal]

Are you saying you want us to follow protocol?

[half iron]

i use discord to talk about stub (my favorite staff) and hating on veterans

[ornate hamlet]

holy shit based???????????????

[long osprey]

What do I need to one shot mutants with a dueling sword? 😔

Sometime it works sometime not

[kind jay]

are we in a vault right now? "here's free thing" "nope.jpg"

[vestal tree]

SIBLING, THAT IS NOT PROTOCOL
THAT IS NOT POGGERS

[long osprey]

I guess crit?

[zinc phoenix]

It sucks you can’t spell protocol with emojis because 3 O

Unless

[vestal tree]

Then use two Os then a 0

[potent echo]

Just use pensive as the last O

[long wharf]

using the term "poggers" is heresy

[digital narwhal]

Chog Pamp

[vestal tree]

I heard it in a dream

[digital narwhal]

[zinc phoenix]

My work here is done

[long wharf]

or is it?

[kind jay]

what about pogs? the little disc things from the 90s?

[zinc phoenix]

I have spelled protocol and lex Atoma with emojis

[half iron]

these mfs got the trust 0 rizz with less skibidi

[long wharf]

I never understood the pog craze

[zinc phoenix]

I loved them back in the early 90s when they came in my juice

[kind jay]

that's a sentence

[potent echo]

What a statement

[hidden crystal]

... you what?

[zinc phoenix]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_caps_(game)

[long wharf]

taken out of context, it's grounds to alert the FBI

[potent echo]

He came in his juice

[zinc phoenix]

Pogs