psyker-class

[solar sand]

on higher diffs

[fresh reef]

that's the zealot, so nah

[tulip trench]

The Emporor Provides

[echo frigate]

rlly?

[fresh reef]

ya

[fresh reef]

nice but swap Crucian for Hand Cannon

[tulip trench]

dont have yet 😢

[fresh reef]

get

[spice veldt]

get

[eager horizon]

get

[fading iris]

get

[tulip trench]

(will) get

[eager horizon]

[solar sand]

ive only seen one and it was t2, and ive farmed for revolvers a good bit, maybe ive been unlucky but seems to be one of the shadow: "harder to get than other blessings despite my assution that every blessing has an equal drop chance (not counting 4s as they are conditional)"

[tulip trench]

i find revolvers in general never drop nor appear in melk/brunts shop

so i have to manually upgrade them to farm blessings

[waxen abyss]

Where can I learn about 4 drop conditions?

[solar sand]

well just that

certain blessings are t4 only

and t4s cant drop from armory

so only way to get them is melk or upgrading, or big E gifts

ergo more rare

[waxen abyss]

Not even brunt profane upgrades?

[tulip trench]

whats better
+15% toughness OR +10 toughness DR

[solar sand]

you will not find a t4 blessing sold by brunt, but you can buy a profane and upgrade it at hadron and get 4s yes

[half turtle]

Depends on how much + toughness% and Dr you already have

Since those stats are additive

[spice veldt]

+15 toughness is generally going to be better, even in the worst case for it

[tulip trench]

toughness = +76
DR = 10%

so if i swap
DR = 20% and toughness = +61

[fresh reef]

very accurate description

[solar sand]

why many words when few word

[fading iris]

I mean, right to the point

[half turtle]

oh this is +15 flat toughness from the nodes, not getting +15% bonus toughness from a curio?

[tulip trench]

ya

[half turtle]

yeah then take the toughness

it's always better

[tulip trench]

flat +15 from node vs +10DR from nodes

[spice veldt]

76 toughness and 2x +5% toughness DR will be better than 61 toughness and 4x +5% toughness DR

[tulip trench]

🤙

[untold widget]

what do you think would be best to swap unyielding for? Flak or Specialist?

[fading iris]

oh the Emperor, we are doing math now!

[solar sand]

flak gets you a lot on surge

[spice veldt]

busted out my trusty desmos calculator

[hearty wave]

i have no idea what im supposed to be looking for as i dont play psyker
is this good?

[zinc phoenix]

Smite the math emprah!!!!

⚡️

[solar sand]

though i cant speak to BPs as im not nearly that hard into the game

[half turtle]

lotta specialists are flak i think, but idk what the bps are yeah

i don't use surge enough

[fading iris]

zap it!

[zinc phoenix]

I like surge but void is very obviously superior in most ways

The big thing surge does for me is power my peril recycling

[solar sand]

ranged to flak or maniac, then barrage, to warp flurry and itll be really good

[half turtle]

terrifying barrage is kinda bad, nexus is good, i'd roll for one (or both) of +flak +maniac as well

[untold widget]

I'll just go with flak for now. I can change it if needed

[hearty wave]

should i maniac over flak cause theres more maniac enemies

[zinc phoenix]

Like zap -> peril -> ree for fire -> zap an just keep cycling for very good damage

[hearty wave]

or maniac specials

elites

[half turtle]

tbh idk why the armor type damage bonus is +25% but the category damage bonus is +10%

[solar sand]

warp flurry is usually BiS, followed by warp nexus, or focused channelling if you're into that

[potent echo]

Only flak specialist is bomber

[spice veldt]

they spun around 10 times and threw darts to decide those numbers

[half turtle]

oh yeah gunners and shotgunners are elites

[spice veldt]

classes and weapons have crit chance attached to them

[half turtle]

weapons also do

[waxen abyss]

There’s a flak rager variant. Isn’t rager a specialist edit: I rong

[spice veldt]

most weapons have 0% base crit chance

[half turtle]

the big standouts are laspistol/knife at 15% and taxes have 8-12% depending on rolls

[potent echo]

Rager is elite

[zinc phoenix]

Isn’t that a mix of carapace and flak?

[spice veldt]

ogryn has 2.5% crit chance, vet/zealot has 5%, and psyker has 7.5% base crit chance

[half turtle]

rager is elite yeah

[potent echo]

That's a mauler

[solar sand]

keep in mind surge targets center mass (mainly) so youll get more flaks that you otherwise wouldnt with a headshot weapon

[fading iris]

Just put sprint efficiency on it and you will be golden

[potent echo]

Add a couple of asterisks to that for this patch

[tulip trench]

so my stats mod shows i have 13% thats 7.5 from psyker + 5% from Node
that doesnt include +5% from aura or the weapon built in crit chance

[zinc phoenix]

https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Scab_Rager

[half turtle]

ragers don't have carapace tho

[potent echo]

That guy is full flak no carapace

[waxen abyss]

F L A K

[solar sand]

ragers are flak and maniac

[zinc phoenix]

You sure head and torso isn’t?

Am I crazy

[half turtle]

on ragers? yeah they're full flak

[eager horizon]

Aye. Is all flak

[zinc phoenix]

No, everyone else is

[potent echo]

You need to go into psyk

[zinc phoenix]

Emprah protect me from all this heresy and lies

[tulip trench]

?

[half turtle]

the psykhanium, specifcially the meat grinder mode

[potent echo]

You need to go into the psyk for the stats to show properly

[eager horizon]

I wish it had cara chest and flak head myself. But dats just wishin

[zinc phoenix]

Many men are familiar with this mode

[zinc phoenix]

HERESY!

[eager horizon]

Are... are you one of them?

[zinc phoenix]

HERESY!

[solar sand]

i spend near as much time in meat grinder as i do missions lol

[zinc phoenix]

Thou shalt not grind thy meat

[half turtle]

meat grinder with spawner mod is great for disabler practice

get used to dodging on just sound cues

etc

get used to solo tanking bosses

[spice veldt]

just testing, it seems that .5% gets rounded upwards

[zinc phoenix]

Then sound doesn’t play

[spice veldt]

so 7.5% shows as 8% and whatnot

[half turtle]

[spice veldt]

and the crit aura doesn't get factored into the crit chance calculation

so 7.5% + 5% = 12.5% rounded up to 13% sounds about right

[zinc phoenix]

The sound priority system really needs to play the sound of the thing nearest to the listener, not the coolest thing happening nearby

[solar sand]

meaing its a seperate 1.05 roll or?

[half turtle]

but no i've actually been saved by sound cue dog shoves and stuff a lot in this game

[zinc phoenix]

Like I don’t care if fire is going off if there’s a crusher behind me going

[half turtle]

even though sometimes they're silent

[spice veldt]

oh like for the Inventorystats mod screen

[solar sand]

ah

[zinc phoenix]

I rely on the sixth sense of the paranoid only 😂

[solar sand]

quell is better than warp but, still very solid

[half turtle]

also dogs briefly emit a repulsion field around themselves right before they jump which you can also use as a cue to shove on, very fun

[half turtle]

something something beloved

[zinc phoenix]

HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT OUR LOCAL ECCLESIASTICAL MUSIC SCENE SIBLING?!?

SUPERB

[spice veldt]

owo

[echo frigate]

My quell speed is 1% better than yours bozo (w roll my guy)

[fading iris]

not 380, just sell it

[solar sand]

void 80 quell speed for reference

[shadow temple]

anty scwish sword

[solar sand]

thats not right

[fair spruce]

this lil shit just hit me with 'A Discerning Choice, I'm sure'

no it is not

[frail sand]

still trying to farm a blazing spirit illisi it's been eluding me for a while now

[fading iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s

[upbeat parcel]

is the guide updated on new surge?

[potent echo]

Blazing spirit only hits one enemy no?

[upbeat parcel]

cause I'm not sure how to build it now

[potent echo]

Unarmored + flak if you care about 1 shot shotgunners

[upbeat parcel]

what blessings?

[fading iris]

and 3 of these

[potent echo]

Always flurry nexus

[upbeat parcel]

alright bet thanks

gonna have to make a new surge... I have flurry nexus but wrong stats

[gusty furnace]

only one is flak

and that's the bomber

[half turtle]

yep

i think someone already pointed it out

[gusty furnace]

Flamers are maniac

Mutant is maniac

Sniper is unarmored

Dog is infested

Trapper is maniac

[half turtle]

i forgot shotgunners and gunners were elites

[gusty furnace]

and all three ogryns

along with ragers and mauler

[potent echo]

Perks are really iffy right now, you can run flak/maniac/carapace if you want

[vagrant frigate]

pretty much what i use

[fading iris]

[maiden wolf]

I'd take it just for the blessing. I've been running crit gunker, its a good time.

[upbeat parcel]

what keystone do u use with surge? I assume disrupt destiny is not that good on surge

[maiden wolf]

I got an MGIV kantrael, its like a mini brauto. It has such a huge magazine, you can magdump for the entire diration of scrier's gaze

[upbeat parcel]

I don't like using warpcharges but the damage boost sounds juicy with surge

[maiden wolf]

I'd do shields woth warp charges

[potent echo]

DD is okay if you also run assail

[upbeat parcel]

ye I am running assail

[potent echo]

Warp charges is just good all round for cdr

[frail sand]

rampage + skullcrusher gang rise up

[worthy dune]

wrongchatwhoops lmaoooo

[frail sand]

cara to maniac and u have a solid mk4

[maiden wolf]

Yeah, I did the math, you can get ~60-70 CDR before elite kills woth the right build.

[upbeat parcel]

is crit still cringe for surge?

I remember reading in the guide that it was

[potent echo]

Extra damage is extra damage

[pale pilot]

superlate, but yes, any quelled peril. passive, active, from vent, from battle meditation, etc.

[potent echo]

Just don't take +crit chance or +crit damage

[maiden wolf]

I mean, the surge staff has a crit stat

[upbeat parcel]

yeah just in the terms of, if I pick the crit aura or the straight 5% damage aura

[potent echo]

Uh neither take the cdr

[maiden wolf]

Ah, I'd take cooldown. I do take crit on my gunker since a lot of my feats rely on frequent crits

[potent echo]

Then from cdr take 5% ranged damage below

[upbeat parcel]

[maiden wolf]

I'd take crit if your build needs to crit a lot. If its just bonus damage, I'd pass

[rotund kiln]

met someone who had the gaul to say smite is bad

[potent echo]

Cdr aura also lets you get toughness DR on high peril amazing talent

[maiden wolf]

Smite is underappreciated (as someone who never uses it)

[upbeat parcel]

smite only feels good to use if you have a good team

[maiden wolf]

Tru, its a good one.

[upbeat parcel]

which is rare in matchmaking

[rotund kiln]

dual smite build, staff and hands. too legit to quit

[maiden wolf]

Yeah, its like chorus

[potent echo]

Chorus at least buffs your team

[upbeat parcel]

alright I think I finished my surge build, thanks for the help siblings

[rotund kiln]

Im using smite, shriek (soulfire) and empowered

[potent echo]

Smite spam is just not it

Smite shriek is great for gunkers

[rotund kiln]

for my gunker i use assail, bubble, and warp siphon

[wooden edge]

is surge staff better with brainburst or smite

feels like i have 0 crowd co ntrol

[rotund kiln]

brainburst is better than staff smite

[upbeat parcel]

surge is already single target take smite or assail

[pale pilot]

how good are deflector forceswords nowadays?

[potent echo]

I stopped using them entirely

But it's personal preference

[upbeat parcel]

dueling swords are too good to use anything else

[potent echo]

I'm deimos biased so I run with that

[upbeat parcel]

dueling sword dodge and movement speed spoiled me

[smoky turtle]

Few things are as enjoyable as walking slowly at a gunner completely immune to their fire and then decapitating them, so I'm keeping deflector

[north cradle]

Yuuuup

I miss the days when Deflector worked on ranged attacks when reviving allies

[smoky turtle]

It threw me for a loop when that changed
I was used to practically suicide rushing to pick people up lmao

Probably a good balance choice in the end though

[north cradle]

Cuz it was so fun, right?

[smoky turtle]

Ye, a good adrenaline rush and it was actually useful too

[north cradle]

If this was Ghost Ship Games developing, I bet that would be a feature

[smoky turtle]

In some form probably

[potent echo]

Yea they like fun

[uncut coral]

is there a good leveling build for psyker somewhere?

[potent echo]

No insta death specials

No waiting around tied up

[upbeat parcel]

Whatever u enjoy using

Builds only matter at 30

[eager horizon]

You can check the guide in pins. Its pretty thorough.

[fierce crest]

tfw lvl 29 cant make a build

[upbeat parcel]

Missing warp battery might as well delete character

[tulip trench]

why is plasteel so sparse but im drowning in premium crafting materials 😢

[north cradle]

Because Fatshark hasn't made a Curio perk that increases crafting mat pickups

[fresh reef]

what do you guys think is the most skill-dependant staff?

[desert mirage]

would this be worth grabbing from melk for the unstable power?

[proud hinge]

trauma, because it's the worst one

[north cradle]

Eh, they're all pretty spammy, but I guess the one that makes the most skill to spam is the Surge Staff or Voidstrike

[fresh reef]

trauma
worst
lol

lmao

kek even

[north cradle]

rofl perhaps

[proud hinge]

awful

[north cradle]

That's a juicy sword, shame it's Obscurus

[wooden edge]

surge staff aka holy shit i keep blowing up im so sorry teammates

i swear sometimes i blow up as soon as i hit 100 and other times it lets me do one extra charge and zap

[north cradle]

You might have proc'd Battle Meditation if you have that in your talent tree

[desert mirage]

Im trying to get that flame spread melee skill, though slaughterer might be great too

[north cradle]

Blazing Spirit, I find to be a bit of a waste myself

[north cradle]

Well, maybe if you're using Wildfire it's good

[desert mirage]

thats the plan

[north cradle]

But I'd honestly just run Purgatus, give the enemies a quick poof, then back to melee

[modern spruce]

Has anyone else noticed that Transfer Peril on the Voidstrike doesn't seem to be working correctly?

[ancient wave]

soulblaze psyker build and spam primary action with purge staff

ez

[ancient wave]

i did not notice that

[pale pilot]

yeah i think it was something something busted on launch where it'd count every head hit on the bowling ball, and possibly the fix for that broke it? it definitely feels like i maybe only procs once per attack now, if at all

[modern spruce]

Transfer Peril 4 is 8% quell, but that's only over a few second duration and you only get maybe 3-4% if you start to charge another attack

[modern spruce]

The fuck that was the fun of the voidstrike staff, my ass its a bug that's a feature

[pale pilot]

i dunno, i never gel'd with the voidstrike because >controller >headshots

[modern spruce]

It is by far the worst of all the staves, I get it

[pale pilot]

so my use of it in missions may be fucking it up but it never felt like i was using it right like the people who can do shenanigans with it.

(i didn't understand the trauma staff until i came back with the talent reworks of 13)

[modern spruce]

Transfer Peril was the best blessing because its the only staff that can get multiple headshots

[pale pilot]

but yeah i'd say try testing it and see if it actually works how it used to or if it changed

[modern spruce]

It definitely feels like its not working as intended, not being rewarded with an immediate 8% peril quelled on headshot

[spice veldt]

i assume it's working properly

because Exorcist has the same limitation

[modern spruce]

If that's intended then that's terrible, and even less reasons to actually use that blessing on the only staff it's actually applicable on

[modern spruce]

And plus the difference between Exorcist and Transfer Peril is the former needs repeated hits to weak spots, so you're not generating peril (unless Scrier's Gaze) and the latter you immediately start to generate peril when you continue to attack

And god forbid that Exorcist and Scrier's Gaze has some synergy

[fresh reef]

god I fucking love Surge now

it being able to headshot still is just icing on the cake

[cerulean lily]

Anyone have/know the blessings for the perg staff?

[potent echo]

Purg only has two blessings

The rest might as well not exist lol

[fresh reef]

you on pc?

[fading iris]

now?!

[cerulean lily]

Lol. No on console

[fading iris]

You should always love the surge staff!

[fresh reef]

yeah, now

didn't like it being a CC staff

[cerulean lily]

@potent echo which 2?

[fresh reef]

and didn't bother playing it til now because I was too enthralled by trauma

[potent echo]

Warp nexus, warp flurry

[fading iris]

that phrase without context is an art

[potent echo]

Patch 13 surge is really good

[fresh reef]

[potent echo]

Deletes specials, deletes gunners

Hitscan, 25m

[fading iris]

I never abandoned Surge staff and it never abandoned me

[cerulean lily]

@potent echo which perks would you recommend ? Flak and maniac ?

[fading iris]

WE WILL RIDE INTO GLORY watch big agressive nerf coming

[fresh reef]

here's what I'm using now

the charge rate is a little painful, but not as much as the damage against trappers

[potent echo]

For purg? Yes

[fading iris]

a little painful

[fresh reef]

this shit is fucking agonizing

[potent echo]

You need some perfect timing

You do have the +5% ranged node?

Will help alot

[fresh reef]

don't know why I didn't think of that

[worthy dune]

What's the move w this lil mf (I'll roll for better later it's what I got lul)

[fresh reef]

I swapped soulstealer but it didn't occur to me to swap meditation

[fresh reef]

crit dmg>flak

[potent echo]

You will almost always be at max 5 stacks with nexus surge

If you see it dropping you just do some lmb

[fresh reef]

the build in question

[tulip trench]

What do i change?

blast radius is bunk i know

[fresh reef]

transfer peril > rending shockwave

[potent echo]

That's a void

[fresh reef]

oh

fuck

here I thought I'd never fall victim to that

[potent echo]

I like unarmored because 1shot dreg gunner

But it's only for that

[spice veldt]

u fool

[potent echo]

Flak doesn't seem to have alot of value, other than you can half charge scab gunner headshot

Or half charge shotgunner headshot

[tulip trench]

Also

which one do i invest in

[fresh reef]

worth?

[potent echo]

Second one
Carapace > flak or maniac
Stripped down > dumdum

[potent echo]

Nah

[fresh reef]

damn

[potent echo]

Damage so low idk if it can even one shot gunners

[fresh reef]

fair

idk what damage stat usually is on deimos because uh

I don't own a good one lol

[potent echo]

H2 should one shot dreg gunners with a little help

Mauler/crusher combo is special>L1>H2

With uncanny

[tulip trench]

what blessings for purgatus? Crit chance and charge speed?

[potent echo]

Yeap

[indigo venture]

havent tried the last staff yet what is it like?

[potent echo]

Last staff?

[indigo venture]

Uhh the one with the double headed eagle ontop but tiny wings. Forgot its exact name

Looking real goofy rn

1sec

[sinful olive]

iirc void is the staff you get access to last

[potent echo]

There are two staff with that, one silver one bronze

[sinful olive]

so voidstrike?

[indigo venture]

Rifthaven Mk II Purgatus Force Staff

This one,

[sinful olive]

oh yeah that is an eagle on there

huh

well

Personally I enjoy it, I think it's in a good spot, I just enjoy void/surge quite a bit more

[indigo venture]

I use the charged up explosive balls one alot.

[sinful olive]

the few times I ran it anyway trying out builds

[indigo venture]

Forgot its names,

The staff names got me messed up

[fading iris]

voidstrike

[indigo venture]

Oh, Right yeah that one over all had the best vibe with it.

[ionic sorrel]

My favorite staff is the Columnus

[half iron]

my favorite staff is the stub

[ionic sorrel]

That's a good one too.

[fading iris]

Voidstrike = Explosive void balls
Purgatus =
Surge = "UNLIMITED POWAAAAA" - Palpatine said calmly
Trauma = Remembers all your failures on the mission.

[half iron]

in terms of magic sticks, i like all of them. especially purg. however actual staffs, nothing can top the stub.

[orchid shadow]

Oooh, new map with Lights Out is fun.

[silver tundra]

I like surge staff the most

[fading iris]

if Purgatus had an LMB with fireball, I would be rocking that, but since it doesn't have, I go the lightning round

[mellow gorge]

very fun

QP into it with purg staff

was an experience

[cold geode]

so um, scryers gaze + gun and disrupt destiny is pretty baller

[fresh reef]

I think this has to be the lowest amount of damage I've seen a team take, ever

it's so nice when nobody dies

[fading iris]

only 25 plasteel.

++ HERESY ++

[sacred crane]

what blessing should i use with surge staff? rn i have warp nexus and warp fury

[fading iris]

yes

[fresh reef]

I smited a horde just so Ralof could get some plasteel in a tight hallway

[fading iris]

Flurry and Nexus are goat for Surge staff, Nexus is extra BIS

[fresh reef]

I'm doing my part

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[sacred crane]

alright i guess hadron was nice to me

[fading iris]

[fresh reef]

don't get used to it

you got lucky because Surge has a total blessing pool of like

4

[fading iris]

Now she will leave you hanging for a while

[sacred crane]

what about my deimos sword? i have shred and deflector on it

[fading iris]

and everything indicates that she has a friendship with Brunt, so he gives you the cold shoulder too

[sour bison]

why would you have shred on deimos?

[sacred crane]

i didnt choose it?

[sour bison]

oh right

[fresh reef]

is this an acceptable outfit for surge/smite build?

or is this better?

[fading iris]

I prefer the first minus the headgear

[shy warren]

[fading iris]

"Servitor-Maker"

[half iron]

psykers have the ability but only a few have learned

[fading iris]

who knows, knows

[fresh reef]

I also have this goober

wish I had a black torso piece to go with

[fading iris]

and for the ones that don't know... have fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPuo0ThnMqc

[fresh reef]

fatshark, pls giv

[half iron]

i wish fatshark gave me more large collars

[tulip trench]

whats the dump stat for void staff?

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum 📌

[untold niche]

Cant test it in psk (i never see mt oexplode)
so just want to ask,
when you hit 100, you have no wiggle room to quell?
its certain death?

[tulip trench]

sometimes you do

have time

[untold niche]

its a chance thing?>

[round summit]

would braced autogun be good with a gunbuild? or colomnus?

[near wyvern]

The only way to save yourself is to:

• use venting shreik
• trigger battle meditation, either from the cast that got you to the explosion animation or from a DOT kill

[near wyvern]

We have no brautos so hard to say

[round summit]

oh

scammed

colomnus v then?

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's good

[untold niche]

thanks.
What is venting shriek?

[near wyvern]

With Assails

[round summit]

i tried laspistol but i went out of ammo so quick

[spice veldt]

battle meditation saved me once from falling enemies dying because i knocked them off with trauma

trauma op

[near wyvern]

Default ult and upgraded default ult

[round summit]

not sure how people work around that

[untold niche]

ahhh
so sorry what about battle mediation

[near wyvern]

It's a talent in the tree, middle bottom one just above the blitz row

But don't rely on that saving your ass

[untold niche]

oh 10% chance to quell on kill, lol

so at 100% you can use venting shriek, but can't manually quell? @near wyvern

[bleak tulip]

I have fond memories of battle med saving my ass when I started playing

[clear heath]

Keep in mind whether you explode depends on what % you release the spell
For staves it's generally 97%. If you release at 96% and it brings you over 100%, you're fine. If you release at 98%, you die

release as in, let go of charging it to fire off the spell

[untold niche]

goddam thanks

[clear heath]

there are some exceptions to the 97% thing

force sword specials are safe as long as you are under 100%

like you can charge the special at 99%

and not die

[bleak tulip]

it depends on your warp resist and shit too iirc, I can fire void at 99.5 or something and me fine

[near wyvern]

Assail is fine at 99

[untold niche]

they should let you die from warp in psk :v

[near wyvern]

And Smite will auto quell at 100 so you can't explode with smite unless you start casting at 100

[clear heath]

Doesn't it still trigger the explosion animation?

[near wyvern]

It does

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[clear heath]

you should still be able to test if it happens

[untold niche]

doesnt for me :v

[bleak tulip]

it should

[clear heath]

like it won't kill you but you bring out your hands, freak out, and boom

[bleak tulip]

you can even test the perils explosion damage and range

[untold niche]

it doesnt do that somehow :v

oh i went over 100 from 86

that expalins

whats brain burst's threshold?

[clear heath]

last i checked it was 97

that was several patches ago but i doubt it's changed

[untold niche]

mean at 97 you die?

[digital narwhal]

You can with the Creature Spawner mod

[clear heath]

yeah

[jovial mural]

was the surge staff fixed?

[digital narwhal]

:^)

[untold niche]

brain burst explosion gives you 24 crazy meter
means the "true" cap is 120 huh

[clear heath]

uh, sorta

they made the damage not get fucked from hitting differently limbs

[untold niche]

BB full charge: 19, on explosion its + 24 so a total of 43

[clear heath]

but it still hits different limbs

meaning it hits different armor types

fucking up your perks

[severe folio]

they couldnt separate the aesthetic with the effect lol

if i was the boss i would tell them to revert whatever the fuk they intended to do until they figure it out

[near wyvern]

It's not that simple

[untold niche]

is there a resource or something explaining this? am curious

[near wyvern]

Not this because it's rather irrelevant but pretty much everything else, check Atheneum 📌

[bold maple]

ever since I play damnation I have ordo shortage instead of plasteel

ffs

[near wyvern]

Well, this way you can get true aim stacks with smite and surge

[untold niche]

Can be used while performing other acitons. Does not interrupt them even though it overrides some of their animations.

Wait what can you do while ulting

[near wyvern]

Welcome to the gang

[near wyvern]

Everything

[fading iris]

[untold niche]

even while revive?

goddam

[near wyvern]

Not revive

But attacks casting, channeling, quelling, aiming

If you throw an attack and ult it seems you cancelled your attack but anything close will still get hit by that attack

Even though the animation doesn't make it look like so

[fading iris]

Bro ults and go file his taxes

[bleak tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[near wyvern]

For reviving you want to ult just before you start and enemies should be picking up their gear while you do the revive. But with Kinetic Deflection that's often not needed unless there are ranged units.

[fading iris]

Intrusive voices =
Beloved voices =

[untold niche]

The quelling speed roll has exponential scaling for manual quelling in terms of time it takes to quell. With 50% quelling speed roll (including Blitz hands and FS), a full manual quell from 100 to 0 takes 3 seconds and with 80% quelling speed it takes 2 seconds, shaving off a whole second for 30% roll increase. With 21% quelling speed roll, which is -29% from the 50%, it takes around 3.6 seconds so from 21% to 50% the gain for 29% roll increase is only 0.6 seconds.

How do you get better quelling speed? :v

Also what does RMB do when doing BB

Whats BR in picture

thanks mr pygex

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

https://tenor.com/view/doug-maclean-nhl-hockey-stats-statistics-gif-13408391465163304912

[warm ledge]

I love how psychotic you can sound ngl

After using your ability

[near wyvern]

Get to lvl 30 and grab a staff with good stats

[fading iris]

After math... oh, after using an ability

[near wyvern]

Pre cooks the blast

[near wyvern]

Brain Rupture

[warm ledge]

@near wyvern I appreciate the suggestions I have a good build based around what you were saying that day

[fresh reef]

I found a good one

it's like seeing a unicorn

[near wyvern]

DM me and I can try it today

[tulip trench]

I mean... aside from cleave that aint bad

[young zinc]

So, on the deimos force sword, does uncanny strike apply to the first hit if its a warp attack, sense it does mulitple ticks of damage?

also between + unyeilding and + carapace, which is more important?

[potent echo]

The warp attack is actually 3 small ticks and 1 big damage at the end

So you get 4 uncanny on a activated headshot

I usually go for light activation as it's really quick, very useful against bosses/maulers/crushers if you want fast uncanny stacks

[young zinc]

okay thanks

[potent echo]

Unyielding definitely as Deimos will be your anti-boss stick

Carapace I never really investigated the breakpoints, but I take +maniac to get closer to 1shot mutants

[warm ledge]

I have to block more instead of trying to dodge bullets

[wet jacinth]

Me blocking 1 attack and being top blocker in the whole team

[potent echo]

Defense score 300

[wet jacinth]

Unless a shieldgryn is in the team

A lot of deflector psyker I feel forget they have deflector

[young zinc]

tbh you can do the light 1 heavy 2 attack combo so quickly its basicly a mutie oneshot

so ya dont need + maniac

[young zinc]

porblem with delfector is the force sword has really low stamina so ya run out like instantly when trying to block ranged attacks

[potent echo]

True but what if I want the funky 1shot

[young zinc]

doesnt one shot without max warp charges, at least from my testing

even with + maniac

[potent echo]

I have unstable power

[young zinc]

ah

is that the best 2nd blessing

?

[potent echo]

For my use case probably

[young zinc]

your use case is what im looking for

[potent echo]

Also if not maniac, which perk is nice?

I just whip it out to kill elite then swap back

[young zinc]

porbs + flak if carapace doesnt get ya any breakpoints, will help ya deal with flak ragers and maulers

[potent echo]

Carapace for mauler probably

[young zinc]

fair

[potent echo]

Also for the Gareth purg uncanny combo

I'll go investigate more

[round summit]

anyone have a gun assail build?

(talents)

[spice veldt]

this is the main core of the gun build I run, and the other 9 points you can distribute into whatever

this is usually what I run

or I go for shield and telekine dome if I'm feeling too lazy for scrier's

preferably you take a gun with good finesse (crit/weakspot dmg)

[round summit]

thanks!

[restive slate]

Columnus IAG?

[wet jacinth]

Imean there's always Stamina curios/Kinetic deflection

[spice veldt]

hell yeah 😎

[wet jacinth]

unless you're trying to block a gunner barrage

[restive slate]

Awww yiss gunker brotha

[fading iris]

[wet jacinth]

I still run dodge gaze gunker anyhow

[lavish glade]

Hol up how have i never seen this plasteel thing

[wet jacinth]

might not be in-game

yet or in code whatever

[fading iris]

Because is something I made and I'll meme it into reality

** ++ SPREAD THE WORD ++ **

[lavish glade]

Woe be upon you witch

[wet jacinth]

lasguns have a scope blessing listed there iirc

inf. lasguns

[untold niche]

actually can you block sniper shots?

[wet jacinth]

I would say no

[fading iris]

the witch part is that I made it on paint because I don't have photoshop installed and gimp hates me

[spice veldt]

unfortunately not

[wet jacinth]

sniper shots aren't hard to dodge anyhow

[untold niche]

sometimes i press crouch before i dodge and then i just crouch and get shot ;-;

[fading iris]

why dodge sniper shots when you can just tank it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTnFsuFSKVg

[untold niche]

usually press it at the same time so sometimes it messes up

[fading iris]

y'all know that bridge before the end part on Carnival?

In the entrance of that bridge, close to the best feature of the map (bell)

I was yeeted one time on vet and almost a second time on psyker because of my bad habit of sometimes dodge and jump

my psyker hold with his toes in the railing

[shy pewter]

Lets go

[fading iris]

nice damage

[half iron]

i’ve once got launched by a jumpscare poxburster at the carnival bridge (my ears had a skill issue that night)

[unreal axle]

might not be ears, audio has been "funky" ever since patch 13 was it? like stealth crushers and maulers, silent hounds, all that fun stuff

[fading iris]

for our luck, the Emperor protects and we end up going back and holding up to be saved

I was expecting a full death on the vet because ai was really launched, but then got caught offguard by going back to the railing lol

[half iron]

i just type “woooooooohooooooo!” into the chat as i fly to the lower levels of the hive

[unreal axle]

my go to response is "shit"

[half iron]

another time i got hit by a mutant and it threw me to a ledge near the elevator at the end of one of the strikes when i was newer

[fading iris]

that is a welcome to the game moment lol

[half iron]

it was fun being launched

he helped

[fading iris]

weeeeee

[unreal axle]

hey I've got a question about force staves, more specifically the Surge blessing, if I'm shooting with the voidstrike staff, does surge just proc sometimes randomly because the staff decided pre-emptively its next shot will crit, or will it proc on the next shot AFTER I crit?

[fresh reef]

current build. judge me profusely

[fresh reef]

crits are rolled when you attack

and on crit, surge will proc as well

(keep in mind that you can animation cancel the firing of the extra shots)

[unreal axle]

sweet, now I just need a voidstrike staff with surge and I can slap it onto the one with rank IV warp nexus already :3

[fresh reef]

pog

what build are you running with it?

[unreal axle]

warp battery bubble smite deimos with peril blocking

[fresh reef]

nice

[unreal axle]

also toughness on quelling and gaining peril

also crit aura, because all the crit I can get :o

[glossy ember]

starting to wonder if my illisi is actually making use of uncanny strike at all

[fresh reef]

do you have the points to pick up True Aim?

[unreal axle]

no, can't even get 6 warp charges

that dip to the right side costs me

oh what unholy builds I could make if we were level 35

[glossy ember]

dreg bruisers yeah it's nice

[unreal axle]

cough I mean holy

[glossy ember]

drop one point from bubble maybe?

or one toughness generating talent

[unreal axle]

holy builds

[fresh reef]

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-tempt-you-can-i-tempt-you-tempt-cat-cat-gif-cat-gif-15432872057513694522

[unreal axle]

nah I feel very comfy with those two toughness generating traits, I'd rather not

[glossy ember]

this is what i run for my crit build with bubble

[unreal axle]

uhh lemme go gameslantern my build

[glossy ember]

I got two toughness generation nodes as well

[unreal axle]

oh, I suppose I COULD get rid of the soulblaze stuff but I like it for hordes, tbh that's a leftover from my soulblaze on crit trauma staff but I really enjoyed it and don't want to let it go :V

[glossy ember]

depends, PC is good, wildfire isnt

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

oop there's a typo here where i went for toughness instead of ranged damage before shield node

[unreal axle]

HMM HMM I COULD DO THIS :o

yes I think true aim will fit

[plucky flax]

Pls take warp rider

[glossy ember]

i'd remove both smite nodes

[unreal axle]

but shooting into a horde guarantees a crit every time :V

[glossy ember]

and get warp rider

[unreal axle]

I'm already struggling to catch the entire horde, I don't want to drop the jumps :x

well, all of them trying to reach me anyways

[glossy ember]

jump only affects lmb anyway

iirc

[unreal axle]

... what

[glossy ember]

i'd also ditch battle meditation and get the final warp charge node, it'd do more for your peril than battle meditation

[glossy ember]

Almost no battery so can't check aethenum in pins

but pretty sure extra jump only affects lmb of smite

[unreal axle]

I may be stubborn and not listen to all suggestions but I appreciate the advice anyways :o it would be nice to get warp rider

[glossy ember]

give it a shot and see if you notice a diff

[unreal axle]

get those doublecrit blasts and absolutely demolish a crusher or whatever

it already hits for like 2k on crit on damnation crushers, so what if I get two of those blasts with an extra 12-20% damage on top

since I was told Surge blessing works for the blasts of voidstrike

[potent echo]

Feels like it actually does affect rmb.. need to do more concrete tests, someone shared some really blurry screenshots though

[glossy ember]

also the right node above shield potentially would be better

5% ranged damage

[potent echo]

It increases spread rate too, but it's not required for smite

[glossy ember]

to me raw smite is so fucken op that i barely noticed a diff with and without its nodes but good to know

[unreal axle]

I suppose I don't need quietitude, scrier's gaze with a trauma staff made me learn to live in the high peril range xD

[glossy ember]

you mean battle meditation?

[unreal axle]

er no yes that

[bleak tulip]

get warp rider

[unreal axle]

I'm willing to at least give this a go

[fading iris]

RIDE.THAT.WARP. WOOOOOOOOOOOO explodes

[bleak tulip]

is this a gunker build?

[unreal axle]

absolutely fucking not :3

[bleak tulip]

then take soulstealer over warp expenditure

[iron stone]

Yo, can Smite crit?

[fresh reef]

trust me, you really don't need the extra nodes on Smite. you won't regret it

[fading iris]

nope

[bleak tulip]

warp expenditure is 25% toughness over 100% peril its pretty mid

[fresh reef]

no, but it can hit weakspots

[iron stone]

wicked, thanks

[iron stone]

Yeah thats what I had been seeing in the grinder, but wanted to confirm.

[glossy ember]

disagree, i feel that it's when i'm quelling that i need the toughness regen, not when I'm killin

[fading iris]

smite can't crit but can hit weakspots, surge smite(RMB) can crit and for some reason(could be a bug, probably a bug) damage can appear as weakspot damage too, because Fatshark

[unreal axle]

if I'm gonna remove that, what about mettle? warp nexus IV on my voidstrike, with +5 crit chance perk

crit aura too

[bleak tulip]

youre thinking of quietude, which is perfectly fine

[glossy ember]

oh

derp

[bleak tulip]

I mean if you want full talent tree advice I got a few more things I dont like about your talent tree

[unreal axle]

not really xD I like doing my own thing, but I appreciate a lot of the suggestions

[bleak tulip]

mettle and perfect timing are both good

[fading iris]

Voidtrike Enjoyer more like "Let me judge your build Enjoyer" rolls of the tongue

[bleak tulip]

I would arguably take perfect timing over warp battery

[unreal axle]

the hell am I gonna pull a point from to get perfect timing? o.o

ooh, hmm

[bleak tulip]

3 stacks is 1% more damage than batt

[fading iris]

Anna be like

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[bleak tulip]

when youre running true aim mettle gets to 5 pretty easily in my experience

[unreal axle]

ugh 2 hotfixes in and they still haven't fixed the balding issue on my head cosmetic, took them months to add that at launch iirc and now something broke again

[iron stone]

Interesting, so the Staff can crit... Have they patched the Empowered Staff bug yet?

[unreal axle]

[fading iris]

EP bug was two patches ago(counting with yesterday's)

[unreal axle]

yis they fixed the empowered nonsense already

[bleak tulip]

hey I'm at least asking now I am improving

[iron stone]

Gotcha, thanks

[bleak tulip]

[unreal axle]

I suppose I could let go of warp battery yeah, I already played this build with 4 charges just fine

[fading iris]

is the most consistent part of this adventure: fix one bug, create another, change stuff and doesn't put on the patch notes.

[fresh reef]

not a bug. they didn't actually fix it hitting limbs, they just normalized the limb damage

[bleak tulip]

depends if you want the CDR but I personally dont really feel the difference of 4 vs 6 much

[fresh reef]

so it still hits weakspots, and for more damage at that

[unreal axle]

I felt like the bubble was ready often enough with just 4

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[unreal axle]

thanks for the advice everyone :)

[fading iris]

I already had this conversation earlier, not again... they fixed the limb damage, they did changes to the cosmetic part and ppl are thinking that they didn't fixed and put on the patch notes anyway.

plus they did more changes and didn't put in the patch notes

which creates even more confusion because they write the notes weird, don't put all the info, have new bugs

[unreal axle]

speaking of bugs, I really hope the new insane filter on the shining confessor premium cosmetic head isn't a bug but a bugfix, I love my zealot's new villain arc voice xD

[fading iris]

it's all chaos

[bleak tulip]

I already had this conversation earlier, not again..

[fresh reef]

I love the voice but I just hate that the voice filter effects don't apply to ability use

[bleak tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[unreal axle]

they do on my end, but my friend said they break for others :V

[fresh reef]

aw, shame

[bleak tulip]

too bad for the others I am running the filter

[fresh reef]

hope that gets fixed before everyone gets their free gas mask

[fading iris]

Classic thiccsushi

[unreal axle]

so like, since I'm using it, I can hear it normally, but anyone else can't, and I assume if I ran into one of those zealots in a game I'd have the same issue that the filter doesn't work on abilities

I'd love it if psyker got the same filter on something, can you imagine the male enforcer with assail with that filter? I get shivers just thinking about it

[bleak tulip]

figure its using the same logic as the gas masks they just dont want the ult shouts to be muffled because theyre actually information you might want

[unreal axle]

or the long mad cackle of the male seer

[fading iris]

be careful with what you wish for, they can end up muting you character while trying to fix that

[unreal axle]

they'd fix that pretty quick xDD

[fresh reef]

my pronouns are [Mad/Pained laughter]

[unreal axle]

I don't really like pronoun jokes

[glossy ember]

i like that my psyker is slightly muffled

but i miss my hair

[unreal axle]

I had a fallback cosmetic thankfully, and it's also a mask

[fresh reef]

hairstyle update when

[unreal axle]

probably year 3 xD

[fading iris]

jokes aside with the Fatshark coding thing, I do hope that things get iron out at the end

I prefer taking time but getting it done then "yeeah bois time for new game, maintenance mod it is!"

[fresh reef]

something something "98 little bugs in the code"

[fading iris]

make 99 mistakes trying to fix it, but never give up

https://tenor.com/view/never-give-up-fist-pump-motivation-motivational-gif-4892451

[unreal axle]

I wonder what's the most nonsensical bug I've ever seen in a live service game

[fading iris]

trying to make a cosmetic change and end up putting a damage code is on my top 10

[unreal axle]

Age of Conan NPC boob resizing glitch mid-dialogue is up there, but I guess Anarchy Online's update where certain player pets turned hostile in a certain situation lol

[fading iris]

a.k.a. Jimmy and the surge/smite change on the patch before the current one

[glossy ember]

ffxiv had a bug where fishing at a very specific spot would crash the entire server.

[fading iris]

mood indication by boob is a selling feature

moodboob™

[unreal axle]

it had this pet class, metaphysicist, and you could have I believe 3 pets was it, but one patch my cousin realized that the summon pet button was still clickable, so of course in a dungeon he spawned a bunch more

then the old ones all turned hostile one by one until only the newest was friendly.. since they were player pets and not summoned by an enemy player in PVP combat, they were immune to all attacks and couldn't be unsummoned, my cousin ran out of the dungeon and of course player pets can follow you out of the dungeon instance.. and they all did

and attacked the entire city

...so of course he did it a few mores times in every major city and then other people caught onto it and they also started doing it and every city was one big floating demon balloon massacre

[fading iris]

and now is a study in some college class

[unreal axle]

probably is

[fading iris]

the wow one was, so why not this one too

[unreal axle]

I guess a bit more of a niche MMO

speaking of I hope someone makes a WH40K (preferrably action) MMO again, apparently there was one but that died long ago :V

[fading iris]

I've heard of Anarchy Online somewhere, don't know if is the same tho

[unreal axle]

should be, it's still up

one nice thing Funcom does is that they don't pull the plug on their old games

[fading iris]

There is the Warhammer Fantasy one that was shutdown but there is private server or servers, I think is server, one that got famous because the staff started to create new stuff

[unreal axle]

yeah I considered playing that again, but I am now more spoiled and it felt so jank I decided not to xD

[fading iris]

and if you squint long enough, Eternal Crusade could be called an mmorpg

[silent socket]

Question: Can I use the upgraded skill version?

Second

Why the hell does it have to be private-

[lethal lagoon]

Layered hub for people to "interact", 4 players dungeon, could probably easily do 10-15 or 25 player raid. Darktide is just a baby mmo.

[glossy ember]

man i kinda want the uh

lv2 blessing on surge staff

that makes rmb uninterruptible

[lethal lagoon]

Last time I tried using that it just straight up did nothing

It's been a long ass time though

[fading iris]

they can't interrupt if you cast that bad boi fast AF

[lethal lagoon]

Also surge is so fucking fast now

I can't remember being intruppted.

[fading iris]

you can even cast a second faster one while the first one is still going out

[lethal lagoon]

Animation canceling on fast surge is kinda trippy.

[strong gulch]

I wish I could do the animation cancel. Quick lightening. zap zap zap

[fading iris]

if you time right enough, you can make the animation sync with the second one, like the psyker finishes, recoil the hand a little and blast the second one

[unreal axle]

how do you animation cancel a force staff anyways?

[glossy ember]

yeah that's the thing, flurry ends up being superior

[limber tartan]

@silent socket I guess its private to prevent people from just trying to wing it in public games either ruining the experience for their teams or them selfs by even attempting it in public games

[glossy ember]

there's a few situations where I wish I had it but it's mainly due to me fucking up

[limber tartan]

And yes you can use the upgraded version

[glossy ember]

like bad positioning vs gunner

or not switching to melee vs a boss

[fading iris]

I do the simple way, click fast as I can like my life depend on it

[glossy ember]

release rmb press blitz press staff

[fading iris]

which most of the time it does because means bigger boi, horde or last minute something that needs killing

[glossy ember]

idk if it works for non surge staffs tho

doesnt work well with void when i tested

[fading iris]

the charge rate def helps

[strong gulch]

There are a number of penances that kept causing people to through games, not talk to the team at the beginning about what they were trying to do, etc that was causing issues, so they were relegated to private matches only.

[fading iris]

and since surge staff uses 3 of my best curio

[glossy ember]

it's peak

i love it

gotta go see a doctor for my wrist tho after surge gameplay

[fading iris]

"You acted like a dumdum, so we dish out the worst punisment ever... talk to ppl and/or having friends"

[limber tartan]

Oh i just realised you can steer assail with your mouse after you throw it

[strong gulch]

Yup. Accurate.

[limber tartan]

Neat

[unreal axle]

here's my current voidstrike, it's already amazing but I do want Surge on this

[glossy ember]

thicc

[strong gulch]

Yip. So if you are assailing near a deamonhost, don't look at it. 💀

[brazen warren]

when I got it it was with un upgraded post patch 13 on heresy. lightsout with a full stack and atleast 1 shield ogryn and you can do it fairly easily

[fading iris]

yes you can! yeeted that assail shard wrong and someone appeared after? aim at the heretic!

[tired knoll]

when you try to ping a daemonhost but have shards out

[brazen warren]

love my columnus boss dps, very stronk

[fading iris]

that's why I never use assail when there is an DH, I don't even look at it, I ping, hug a wall, look at it and walk away

[half iron]

when you try to ping a daemonhost but have shards out

[fading iris]

and scream at chat "don't look it, don't touch, weapon flashlight can trigger too, don't"

[brazen warren]

smite accidentally chaining to the DH around 3 corners:

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-fingers-kid-cat-shock-powers-gif-16258064

[strong gulch]

Some people have their ping as their attack button. RIP

[strong gulch]

Creeping flames through a wall too

[half iron]

i “purposely” alerted a dh just to mess with a vet i was with for two pubs. didn’t even try to run into them again

[brazen warren]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-cant-believe-shades-gif-11507181

true warp power

[strong gulch]

Idk if the flames hit it, but yelling certainly made DH grumpy

[half iron]

zealot population reduced to 0%

[fading iris]

DH isn't hard, but you need at least 3/4 of the team ready to focus it

which most of the time isn't the case

[brazen warren]

yeah, most times the party ignores it after it wakes up and just goes into panic mode instead of just chopping it to mince meat

lowest hp of all the monstrosities right?

[fading iris]

it's always when the team is the most scattered or something like the AI director went crazy and Jimmy decided to poke the Daemon Mommy

[tired knoll]

i cant for the life of me wack a dh accurately with melee when its running around chasing someone

[brazen warren]

ai director has been spawning a boss with a DH more often after patch 13

[half iron]

so true!

sometimes a boss just jumpscares the crew like in five night freddy and launches or throws someone to the dh.

[fading iris]

I have two DH kills, is nice one we had a ogryn tank and the other was by sheer luck that ended up with Vietnam flashbacks because was chaotic AF classic grimdark

[half iron]

me when that
i’m not wicked. i’m not, i’m not!
hits

[fading iris]

buzz buzz buzz

[unreal axle]

AI Director seems to love the boss DH combo now, ALSO DHs back to back

for some reason

often both

[half iron]

the ai director loves giving me flashbacks to hard rain

[rose gazelle]

just tried out the animation canceling tech on the surge staff. seems pretty powerful!

[strong gulch]

DH blocking the healing station or the rescuse sites.

[rose gazelle]

definitely gotta get used to it though

[strong gulch]

Use it and hope it sticks around.

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-heavy-rain-press-x-gif-13607167

no wait, wrong rain

[half iron]

😠

[strong gulch]

I can barely swap weapons, so it's not a tech for me.

[fading iris]

now that's gaming

[half iron]

my tech is the gun in my hand and the lore-accurate bullet it holds

[rose gazelle]

may have to swap keybinds around so i don't accidentally fat finger ability button

[strong gulch]

DH said get gud

[sweet pelican]

is the lightning ability more of a support/stun ability?

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/come-and-get-them-molon-labe-gif-15211828

DH was like

[strong gulch]

Ye, but it / smite can be paired with creeping flames for damage.

I have not used smite + ep. So idk about that,

[half iron]

smite more like peak

i got that tertium rizz

[fading iris]

the Nurgle one or the no more planet one?

[sweet pelican]

im only lvl 4 atm so i got no clue what those are lmao

[half iron]

the no more planet kind of rizz. for a trust 30 gyatt

[plucky flax]

First game revolver assail since patch 15. Handcannon bug fix hurts but it's still so strong.

Revolver quick swap is unmatched. Columbus is cool but sometimes I need to kill a special instantly.

[fading iris]

btw, I don't remember/didn't search, but we can assume that the Moebian Domain is close to Cadia, right? or Cadia is legit just a fanservice? I only remember that there is no exact location of where the Domain is I remembered while searching again that is on the Segmentum Solar, close to the Cadian Sector

[spice veldt]

i've been a fan of having periods where I can just turn my brain off and hold down m1, so columnus is fitting right for me currently

[half iron]

the stub is the best staff

[sweet pelican]

first game with a staff blew myself up 7 times, i think im doing great

[plucky flax]

@spice veldt columbus is better for muties train modifier though. Just hold down left click brrrrrrrr

[fading iris]

7 free warp grenade uses

[quick python]

most lore accurate sanctioned psyker

[half iron]

my first game with surge (literally yesterday). one explosion led to a wipe

[spice veldt]

the first game that I used assail, I blew up 5-7 times

1k hours btw

[sweet pelican]

my ogryn main mind is too confused about this

plus my friends "knife" suggestion aint going well

[plucky flax]

26 min game. 3 revolvers (2 psykers) in 1 game.

[sweet pelican]

i blew myself again nvm

[half iron]

my first game with smite led to me accidentally getting out with a bang

[fading iris]

funny enough I didn't have any explosion extravaganza while leveling up... but when I was lvl 30 and had the means to spam on my old surge staff... welp

[spice veldt]

why would my psyker weapons do this to me

[sweet pelican]

any build suggestion while lvling?

[half iron]

but hey, what’s a psyker if they don’t let a little warp in as a treat?

[sweet pelican]

cuz im not good at talent works

[strong gulch]

Oh valid. In the pinned messages, there is the "The Psyker Atheneum" that has a bunch of tested info. There is a README section with updates.

Creeping flames is a modifier of Venting Shriek (shout ability on the left side). At high peril, you can use Venting Shriek to set a horde on fire and melt them. Low peril does less.

[fading iris]

[plucky flax]

Blowing up is fun.

[strong gulch]

I watched your recent video of you making a mutie pile with columnus. They popped out of that pipe and napped forever.

[sweet pelican]

atlaeast i spent my 120k looking good

[fading iris]

[plucky flax]

Mmhmm the columbus is super good for muties train. If there's an ammo vet in the team I'd go columbus. If not I'd go revolver for more ammo efficiency.

[sweet pelican]

here we go again

[plucky flax]

I would really like to play laspistol but that thing chews up ammo way too fast.

It's sorta impossible for me.

[half iron]

the warp calls to you

[half iron]

stub. stub. stub. stub. stub. stub. stub.

[unreal axle]

stub revolver gets so little ammo D:

[plucky flax]

Yeah but it's 1 or 2 hits kill.

[half iron]

make up for it with swag.

[plucky flax]

So overall efficiency is better for me.

I use it for specials or elites only.

For smol shooters I use assail.

[half iron]

stub is my favorite staff

[potent echo]

If you use revolver for shooters you gonna run out real fast

I guess that's why people run assail revolver

[spice veldt]

you should be able to quell with your base ult to avoid the perils of the warp suicide

[half iron]

i use stub smite

[spice veldt]

they added 10% quell to it in a previous patch right

[plucky flax]

Handcannon 2s assail

People thought ep surge was op but handcannon and old assail was way more busted.

You literally just assail your way through the whole map.

[sweet pelican]

wait that thing removes peril?

[half iron]

ass fail is for nerds anyway

[strong gulch]

It's kinda silly how ammo efficient revolver is. Especially if a everything is lining up.

[spice veldt]

it should if I remember the patch notes correctly

i haven't used the default ult in a long time

[plucky flax]

Ooh yeah when ragers running in a line at me I just revolver their arses.

[half iron]

1 shot to a terribly-positioned (on their side) horde and you can have a vet comment that you are killing a lot

[potent echo]

Only dreg ragers though

Scab ragers got that helmet

[sweet pelican]

it doesnt it blew me up again

[spice veldt]

rip

[strong gulch]

shotgunners huddling together.

[sweet pelican]

should i use assail while lvling?

sorry for alot of questions

[half iron]

takes time to learn the magic

[strong gulch]

There's a window after you go past 100% peril that venting shriek can save you. Wait to long and boom.

[half iron]

to master your warp

[plucky flax]

It's the easiest and very strong psyker tool.

Pretty easy to invest into also.

[half iron]

it’s like having a pocket veteran. 10(?) of them

[plucky flax]

You're right it doesn't pierce scab rager.

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/hzhkk6

[sweet pelican]

i noticed alot psykers use that flame staff on my ogryn too

[plucky flax]

It can pierce shotgunners though.

I guess full face helmet stronger than just helm.

[half iron]

purg is an epic staff

[sweet pelican]

wait how come mind didnt work or did i do it too early?

[spice veldt]

possibly

unless there's a discrepancy between the psykhanium and real games with regards to the default ult

[sweet pelican]

oh it only works when im about to pop?

[spice veldt]

yeah

[half iron]

yeah

[spice veldt]

when you enter the suicide animation

it's a nice get-out-of-jail-free card

[fading iris]

nice, Darktide PS2 version

[sweet pelican]

yea why does ur darktide look like that i like the design

[spice veldt]

i have the textures set to very very very low in the config file

[sweet pelican]

i think i need that on my old ass pc

[half iron]

got darktide on the switch

[spice veldt]

it'll prob have minimal impact in practice since you're probably cpu-limited

[plucky flax]

Nah he got the darktide from wish.

[fading iris]

one more very and you ended up like the dude that optimized portal to run on N64

[strong gulch]

Wait... does venting shriek only take you down to 90% from 100% peril now?

If that is the case in game and the tutorial STILL says they it quells all of your peril... 🙃 I'm gonna be extra tired.

[sweet pelican]

this is non upgraded vent

[half iron]

dimwave

[plucky flax]

Ali express darktide.

[sweet pelican]

i swear if im going to get another carnival in qp ima lose my mind

and hopefully i dont pop alot with this info about vent

[half iron]

you must play carnival. it’s the only map.

[fading iris]

oh sweet summer child

[sweet pelican]

on my ogryn i bring my shield cuz i cnat bring myself to dodge everything 24/7 cuz of its open space

[fading iris]

don't worry that we will have the part 2

[sweet pelican]

like when i see a psyker that funny orb thing i appreciate u guys so much in that map

[half iron]

i appreciate psykers that aren’t me

but i heavily appreciate a psyker that is me

[sweet pelican]

as an ogryn main i appreciate u guys and vets alot

if vets dont bring survilist i dont appreciate them

[half iron]

i never appreciate vets😠
except one guy who was sweet

[sweet pelican]

speaking sweets these looks like candy

[fading iris]

don't lick the shard

[half iron]

i still hold a grudge against them for my attempted brain bursts during older versions

[fading iris]

or do, I`m not your father

[sweet pelican]

the candy popped me..

[lethal lagoon]

Everybody loves that Asscandy

[half iron]

i hate ass fail

[sweet pelican]

my candy does nothing to a monstrosity...

[lethal lagoon]

Average Assker when a monstrosity shows up
https://media.tenor.com/images/ca7f024df3c6f956d71517945589a4b0/tenor.gif

[sweet pelican]

i miss my ogryn i do nothing to monstrosity..

[lethal lagoon]

Going from face-tanking monsters to tickling them is a rough time

[sweet pelican]

atleast everything dies with my candy?

[glass forge]

what situations do we use surge staff now?

[fading iris]

yes

[potent echo]

Kill specials/elites

25m range

[vestal fulcrum]

Is there a world in which this combination of blessings is desirable?

[strong gulch]

Surge staff RMB is really good at getting specials, but it's also no slouch at getting the smaller elites. Though it can only CC 2 targets, you can still stop something from attacking a team mate. It's more accurate at hitting the thing that you're aiming at than you'd think it is.

With LMB improvements, you can use it in a number of ways too: thin a far off horde, lay down some suppression, get a far away sniper, etc.

[strong gulch]

Yes. You give up some damage for speed. You can still proc surge with true aim talent.

If you don't have surge for void, grab it and surrender it for just that blessing.

[vestal fulcrum]

I do have Surge, I'm just looking for a justification for these two blessings in a combo

[sweet pelican]

i feel like i did more dmg to the monstrosity by stabbing it in the butt

[vestal fulcrum]

Because I can just swap out the perks and have a perfectly usable Void

[sweet pelican]

is the reason why psykers use bleed knife is for monstrositys?

[spice veldt]

chaos spawn and plogryn have a higher damage hitzone multiplier around their ass yeah

why? who knows

[light quail]

the blue jolly rancher

[half iron]

i said so

[strong gulch]

The only thing is the warp resistance is a bit low. So long as you can manage your peril, it's worth it.

I don't play void much so idk. On trauma or surge, 47% is too dang low for me. Blow up non-stop.

[quartz barn]

I pref nexus over flurry tbh

More crits for surge

[sweet pelican]

ok i think this is good for low lvl monstrosity killing?

[glass forge]

seems hard to use surge staff, it only targets 2 enemies, while other staff can target unlimmited enemies if enemies are closely packed

[sweet pelican]

any idea on perks i should put?

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn't waste your breath over perks, this is a low level knife after all

[glass forge]

suggest to level to max level , then you would not use lower weapons again

[tired knoll]

yeah waste of plasteel

[sweet pelican]

alright i just wanted to make a knife to deal with monstroisty early lvl i guess?

i guess those blessings are fine for it?

[glass forge]

looks good

[vestal fulcrum]

This shouldn't matter greatly

But yes, they are sufficient

[fading iris]

that wasn't a waste of plasteel, there was a learning experience...

to not think too much or spend too much until lvl 30

[sweet pelican]

i got alot of plasteel on me so i think im fine 😛

[tired knoll]

like id just spam bb on monstrosities and use a force sword or something

[brazen warren]

https://tenor.com/view/random-slap-sleeping-cheese-gif-19359704

[spice veldt]

i'd grab a duelling sword if nothing else (the mk4 duelling sword, specifically)

[brazen warren]

how quick play is like today on damnation

[sweet pelican]

any staffs u reccomend?