psyker-class

[fading iris]

staffs on top always being showed (get rekt gun psykers)

[ornate hamlet]

I had a moment

[fading iris]

good or bad one

[ornate hamlet]

And I am of the mind that should Fatshark decide to unfunny the mk4's heavies, the mk2 will become the new meta

For dueling sword, I mean

[potent echo]

Yea one weapon category like duelling sword, force sword etc

[severe folio]

why mk2

[unkempt perch]

does toughness count towards taking melee damage?

[severe folio]

what do you mean by that

[potent echo]

Technically....?

[unkempt perch]

for on overwatch penance

ah damn

[severe folio]

ah that

yes

it does

[ornate hamlet]

It attacks fairly fast and seems to have two light/heavy combos that fit hordes and single target, from what it seems of the moveset

[unkempt perch]

hate this damn penance

[potent echo]

I recall you can get hit by melee, but only if you are at 100% toughness

[severe folio]

you just cannot be hit by elite

[ornate hamlet]

And the mk5 also has an awkward first light and the third one is a strikedown, which I think might be kinda weird considering it also has uncanny

[severe folio]

by bruisers and all should be fine

[unkempt perch]

oh so it's specifically just elite???

[severe folio]

it said so on the penance

[unkempt perch]

that's so much easier

I may be a lil stupid lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Uncanny strike reduces the purpose of that strikedown since all of the hits become very hard instead of it being some kind of differential

[potent echo]

I actually still don't have that achievement lmao

[severe folio]

wait

i read the wrong penance

i dont see overwatch

i read keep your distance

[potent echo]

On overwatch is redacted penance, you can't take melee health damage afaik

[severe folio]

i see

why cant i find it

which category is the penance ?

oh redacted

i cant find it on redacted too

[limber silo]

which headhunter is the single shot?

[severe folio]

IT A VET PENANCE

WHY ARE YOU ASKING IN PSYKERRR

[severe folio]

vrak mkviii i think

mk viii

vrak mk vii

[fading iris]

vraaaaaak skeet papa raaaah k-boom

[unkempt perch]

oh mb I didn't even realise I was in here

[ornate hamlet]

nerd react

[tawny jewel]

actually you'd think a psyker would know since booksmart

[severe folio]

well a psyker knew

[foggy breach]

funny?

[shy pewter]

Wish me luck at the shit-talking slot machine you guys

[ornate hamlet]

hilarious, even

[foggy breach]

whats funny

[ornate hamlet]

the mk4's heavies

[foggy breach]

what's special about em

[ornate hamlet]

they funny

[shy pewter]

😭

[ornate hamlet]

TRANSFER PERIL 1

[obtuse moth]

no, spellcasting dummies here, the booksmart channel is #ogryn-class

[foggy breach]

:( most informative psyker chat answer

[ornate hamlet]

TRANSFER PERIL TRAUMA TRANSFER PERIL TRAUMA TRANSFER PERIL TRAUMA

https://tenor.com/view/got-your-nose-gif-22000122

[obtuse moth]

oh i put that thing on mute long ago lol

[tawny jewel]

holy shit I really am stupid, I apologize for my grevious mistake.

[obtuse moth]

im not joking btw XD

[tawny jewel]

wait what

[shy pewter]

I think he's saying that he mk4 heavy attack is stupid good and might get nerfed at some point

[obtuse moth]

zealot channel is general chat 2.0, all the class channels bleed into each other and ogryn chat is usually smartest chat

[warm ledge]

What can one do to avoid getting down in four hits on heresy?

[fading iris]

[obtuse moth]

recover toughness

[tawny jewel]

curios with toughness regen speed

[clear heath]

don't get hit 4 times

ez

[fading iris]

not get hit / kill faster

[foggy breach]

why's it go though is what im asking

[obtuse moth]

i play like i expect to get oneshot in damnation

[obtuse moth]

the weakspot crit does 50% more than the other dueling swords

[foggy breach]

HooH

[tawny jewel]

well I guess I'm learning more and more today

[severe folio]

do you have an mk4 dueling sword

[foggy breach]

no

i use a mk5

[severe folio]

you should acquire one

do you hate crushers, mauler and scab rager ?

[shy pewter]

I liked the mk5 more at first but was brought to the light of the mk4

[foggy breach]

yes

[severe folio]

then youd love the mk4 dueling sword

its heavy attack is stabby

and most stabby thing in this game hits against armor very hard

such as the mk4 dueling sword

they trivialize carapace

and flesh equally

and maniac

[obtuse moth]

deimos stabby is fun too but mk4 comes out so much faster and you dont need to get through a light first

[severe folio]

look at its attack damage

[shy pewter]

What melee would ya'll bring with Trauma? DC?

[obtuse moth]

i actually havent compared light stab spam on deimos to dueling sword though

[obtuse moth]

anything for hard targets, dont need melee cleave with trauma

[severe folio]

that means mk4

[obtuse moth]

usually, your favorite mutant slaying weapon

[shy pewter]

so duelling sword then

[severe folio]

or deimos

if you feeling a bit quirky

maybe combat axe

[potent echo]

Yeap, (psyker needs another melee)

[tawny jewel]

combat knife

[severe folio]

well combat knife

i

hm

idk

[severe folio]

solid

[obtuse moth]

combat knife for me is for the classes that can't run dueling sword lol

[grand scroll]

I bleed everything.

[severe folio]

or when you want to be quirky

[grand scroll]

B L E E D

[severe folio]

unless your guns and your staff also bleed

im not sure if bleeding focus do well on psyker

people still say apply soulblaze, bleed and smite on enemies but like

[potent echo]

Bleed staff when

[severe folio]

can you imagine the whole procedure for it

[severe folio]

thorn staff HAHA

[potent echo]

Bleeitz when

[severe folio]

a whole new category

[obtuse moth]

biggest thing with psyker and combat blade is you can't run mercy killer and uncanny strike like you can on other classes

[shy pewter]

PRAISE the omnissiah

[untold widget]

dang

[shy pewter]

my grey has turned out to be a banger

[obtuse moth]

you could easily put bleed and burn on monstrosities. you can sort of put burn and burn on enemies

[untold widget]

that's like, pretty good

[severe folio]

Venus Mk VII Hemus Force Staff

[grand scroll]

I'm mostly referring to Zealot and Veteran with those

[severe folio]

we are in psyker chat

[grand scroll]

I was getting to the other part of "mostly"

[severe folio]

im reporting you for heresy

[warm ledge]

I'm just asking to make sure, ik builds are different but are 4 hits and down normal? In Heresy *

[severe folio]

4 hits and down what ?

you mean 4 wounds ?

[grand scroll]

Once I find another good knife, the Holy Trinity of Blood will be complete

[severe folio]

no orgyn

[solar sand]

so purgatus EP BR is my new favorite build, running it in aurics and top charting every match, hordes are nothing, great boss and crusher dps from BR

[strong gulch]

It's still savable at least. Those blessing tho... hadron hate you.

[severe folio]

BR ?

[solar sand]

brain rupture

[severe folio]

ah

[solar sand]

frequently still refered to as BB, brain burst

[severe folio]

purgatus, EP, bb

and what ability ?

[solar sand]

dome

no need for shriek when you already got purgatus

[severe folio]

thats

well

[solar sand]

whip out BR like a grenade with the empowered stacks

[obtuse moth]

are you doming for faster BR?

[solar sand]

yeah

and to dome

[obtuse moth]

nice

i find against good vets you still cant get anything

[solar sand]

but yeah im getting a lot of use out of this

im beating krak vets in boss damage with it

[severe folio]

your build seem center focus around bb

[obtuse moth]

its probably just a purge build with bb

[severe folio]

i mean

[obtuse moth]

you need all those talents to make bb useable lol

[severe folio]

he just told all his build setup

it is a bb build with purg

[warm ledge]

4 hits in Heresy and I'm down, wondering if that is a base thing (ik builds are different but I am just asking)

[obtuse moth]

you need all those talents to actually have bb come out at a useable speed

[severe folio]

ep, bb, dome, purg

[obtuse moth]

thats just the difficulty level. unless you run a tanky class you should expect to down that quickly

[severe folio]

hes doing it in auric so

i think

idk if he actually doing this in auric

[mighty fractal]

Psyker has very few damage reduction nodes in its talent tree

[severe folio]

yes

[mighty fractal]

so getting hit with large single hits (mauler sideswipes, sniper shots) hurts a ton

[severe folio]

yes

[obtuse moth]

you shouldnt ever get hit more than once basically in darktide without recovering toughness

[strong gulch]

I have BB on my blaze trauma + warp siphon build as a supplement.

[mighty fractal]

Psyker tree's many ways of restoring toughness makes it good at sustaining against chip damage, though

[solar sand]

i mean im squishy but, just dont get hit ig

[obtuse moth]

if you do, you need to change your playstyle

[severe folio]

you do this bb thing in auric ?

i think you can neglect kinetic flayer

[mighty fractal]

Gotta dodge/slide while charging your staff's main attack

[severe folio]

and use battle meditation

[mighty fractal]

to get the most out of your survivability

[solar sand]

no i get so much use out of it

flayer is like, the best skill

[severe folio]

okay

guys wait

dont do it

[mighty fractal]

Or you could overload and explode because you hit 100% peril right as you block with kinetic deflection 🙂

(just happened to me last game)

Wonder if that bug will be fixed at any point

[solar sand]

i dont have any issue surving between dome and cc from purg

[severe folio]

if you are at critical peril kinetic deflection shouldnt kick in

theres a bug where it kick in anyway ?

[mighty fractal]

It is probably a server tick issue where the game doesn't think you're over 97% peril and will add the peril generated from whatever hit you just blocked to your total peril

[warm ledge]

This is mine, was suggested through by Pygex. 4 hits from a basic enemy with an axe. Guess I'm just a glass canon

[mighty fractal]

I've had it happen just a few times

[severe folio]

i can see thats a smite creeping flame

[shy pewter]

can true aim trigger with trauma? or does it only hit bodies

[severe folio]

doesnt trigger with trauma

[shy pewter]

I thought not

[severe folio]

unless primary fire

[mighty fractal]

Ideally you only get hit once/not at all by common enemies

if it's just an isolated enemy

Also Soulstealer helps a ton

if you're using staves

[severe folio]

what is soulstealer again

[mighty fractal]

7.5% toughness regen on warp kill

[severe folio]

oh

yes thats true

[shy pewter]

And does Anticipation stack with Empathic Evasion?

[mighty fractal]

Above Quietude

[warm ledge]

Looking at what I should get rid of in my tree for that

[severe folio]

i think anticipation is a bit bugged right now

[mighty fractal]

They -should- have synergy

[severe folio]

the increased duration dont happen at all

[shy pewter]

@warm ledge Drop wildfire, its not good

[lean python]

Take all 3, Quietide, Soulstealer and Warp Expend helps oodles for survivng

[severe folio]

at least according to the codex

[mighty fractal]

but I don't think you actually get the increased dodge duration, no

[shy pewter]

thanks

[strong gulch]

Trauma RMB can't build true aim, but it can use the guaranteed crit.

[shy pewter]

thanks, good to know

[severe folio]

using purg with empathic evasion is like becoming flame

[obtuse moth]

you can slide quell too, or even jump slide quell but its somewhat complicated

[mighty fractal]

yeah they're all good habits to practice

and incorporate into your gameplay

[strong gulch]

If you want to do CC + brittle fire trauma and not use warp nexus, you can do blazing spirit + rending shockwave and trigger blazing spirit with true aim.

It's clunky. Not my thing, but some like it.

[obtuse moth]

oh thats a weird build

[severe folio]

whoever use brittle blaze are kinda quirky

[mighty fractal]

that's what i run

🙂

[strong gulch]

Use that empathic evasion on purg 💯

[mighty fractal]

it is not optimal though

[severe folio]

you are very quirky

[mighty fractal]

😛

[restive slate]

Does Brittle Blaze actually show results?

[mighty fractal]

ideally you want to build either for Rending or for Blaze

[severe folio]

have to find out'

[mighty fractal]

but not both

[severe folio]

yeah

[mighty fractal]

it's perfectly fine for mulching big hordes and staggering elites

and supporting your team

you can get big results

it's just not optimal because you give up the big crit blessing

[spice veldt]

i'd run rending blazing specifically for melee maelstrom

[restive slate]

Like I really like Fire Trauma but if I can shove in Rending too

[mighty fractal]

that's what I use it for

you're just gonna lose some damage by not taking warp nexus

but if you're okay with that

[shy pewter]

I'd like to remain open for soulblaze when I find it, in the meantime should I roll specialist to flak? Then one day Flurry to Soulblaze?

[mighty fractal]

then blaze rending trauma is a very good support tool

[restive slate]

Trauma is meant for support anyways

[severe folio]

youll awaken the blaze trauma goblins

[idle bay]

too late... he'd better run or become enilightened

[restive slate]

Why? Was it something I said??

[obtuse moth]

nah you can take top damage with it

[mighty fractal]

even if you don't build it optimally, trauma pumps out damage

just by blowing up huge hordes and the elites mixed into them

[severe folio]

i think the 2 reason why blaze trauma takes top damage is because : soulblaze a lot, enemies fly around and nobody else can attack them

[idle bay]

It's not just support tool it's kill eveything while remaining safe and saving your team tool. There are disturnbing videos... and like 1,5 million damage on scoreboard

[mighty fractal]

People used to hate Conflag staff in VT2 because it flung elites into your party if you weren't careful with it

but it was solid if used to fling elites back into the patrol

[severe folio]

lets be honest every staff eventually kill everythin

void, surge, purg, trauma

[idle bay]

even with Special attacks

[mighty fractal]

then people discovered that Bolt staff oneshots chaos warriors on headshot

and then they discovered fireball unchained

[severe folio]

its just a matter of, whether someone else gonna kill it before you

[mighty fractal]

and then Coruscation staff happened...

[severe folio]

and with trauma, youbet your ass nobody gonna kill the prey you are juggling around

[strong gulch]

If you have the plasteel, this one is the very good. Great base for laze trauma.

[idle bay]

except for flamer, purgatus, explosions from ogryn and plasma vet (need to shoot low) those can kill-steal from Trauma

[severe folio]

100% bet if trauma dont fling enemies around blaze trauma psyker wouldnt be top damage

[shy pewter]

this one died

[severe folio]

its dead

it had such a good stat too

bu its dead

[idle bay]

Airlock it

[mighty fractal]

man that's tragic

[severe folio]

blaze trauma is like summoning meteor

[obtuse moth]

i usually throw my trauma at max range unless theres something going to hit either me or behind my teammates. you'd probably lose that bet. and if im cc-ing elites people can just 100% spam attacks without worrying about being hit

[severe folio]

burning, blowing ball of fire

[strong gulch]

Not dead (not perfect). Flak is good and put blazing and nexus on it (when you get blazing).

Don't forget LMB.

[tawny jewel]

yoo a meteor staff would be cool

[restive slate]

Happens to me too often, saw an Ogryn go adhd and ran off when the Ragers he was fighting fell down

[strong gulch]

Used fire trauma here. I didn't even have creeping flames and still got top damage.

[restive slate]

Alright, that sounds too cool for me not to try

[bold maple]

peril blocking with 3 block efficiency curios go hard

[restive slate]

How often do you lmb?

[bold maple]

just clutched a damnation run with that

[severe folio]

nice

wont happen frequently

how did you clutch it

[potent echo]

Unless you hit their big ass pauldrons

[bold maple]

had a plague ogryn + a demonhost on us with 1 dead

[strong gulch]

A lot if there are spread out shooters or things are too far.

[potent echo]

Chaos warriors have such a bad hitbox

[bold maple]

I just tanked both the ogryn and the host for like 10 minutes

[strong gulch]

Otherwise they get the danger circle

[potent echo]

Thank goodness crushers have a huge head that's pointed forward

[severe folio]

thats rough

sound perfect for monst maelstrom

[restive slate]

Got it, I'm still getting used to the idea that staff lmb is decent now

[half iron]

staff lmb is cool because it helps me imagine i’m using a gun

[potent echo]

It's decent but still needs like 5-6 shots to kill a stalkrr

If you hit the head the follow-up shots miss because of the stagger causing them to duck

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Very spammable now. If you don't have BB or assail. You can get snipers with LMB.

[potent echo]

Just very slightly cursed

[lethal lagoon]

Full-auto mod with staff, 100% viable, I love it.

Great for snipers, gunners, far away shotgunners.

[mighty fractal]

yeah rip

[restive slate]

Question btw, when are we supposed to get pc exclusive free cosmetics?

[severe folio]

end november maybe

[potent echo]

End of November*

[strong gulch]

AND there was the update to not trigger it on charged attacks.

lol. I mean channel attacks / RMB

[severe folio]

i want a warp based gun

not a staff

[idle bay]

That will make zealot mistaken for Sniper more often than not ? Like Stell legion basic uniform makes Vet mistaken for scub quite often (provided you are not using mod that highlights players)

[severe folio]

warp gun

[lethal lagoon]

Is there a warp gun in warhammer lore?

[severe folio]

means you reload with infinite ammo

[idle bay]

Squig gun?

[mighty fractal]

it really doesn't look like a sniper mask

[severe folio]

what is squig gun

[mighty fractal]

the goggles don't glow green

[idle bay]

Orkish take of warp gun. It teleport squigs. Quite often right inside enemies.. or alllies.. it's ork-tech 🙂

[severe folio]

wild

but no

im thinking more something along the line of

just an IAG or HHAG

that shoot warp bolt and reload

with infinite warp bolt

no peril cost, just shoot warp bolt in magazines

or maybe peril cost after reload ??

[dire saffron]

what a weird idea

[severe folio]

i know

[idle bay]

Closest thing is Vortex weapons. But it mostly grenades nowdays. Tech is lost

[severe folio]

lol check this out

i found

suffer

[mighty fractal]

just ask your local space dwarves (they will kill you before handing over the tech)

[severe folio]

speaking of space dwarf

[fading iris]

the version with a supressor is even better

[idle bay]

Tech priest will suffer a short-circut if ssees this heresy

[severe folio]

there was suppose to be space dwarf in 40k right ?

[restive slate]

Thankies

[mighty fractal]

There are now

[severe folio]

oh

what are they called

[fading iris]

They already cameback for a while

[mighty fractal]

They used to be called Squats and were in 1st ed only I believe

[severe folio]

squats lmao

[fading iris]

Votann

[potent echo]

Squats yea

[tawny jewel]

the california compliant boltgun

[severe folio]

now thats cooler

[mighty fractal]

they came back last year on April 1

[idle bay]

Leagues of Votan (squats previously)

[mighty fractal]

now called the Leagues of Votann

They're a split-off of Abhuman that ventured far out into the galaxy

[fading iris]

Not only they cameback with a nice name, they have some bs OP machinery

[mighty fractal]

and they still use ancient tech

and also people hate fighting them on tabletop

[potent echo]

Votan is some AI right?

[mighty fractal]

they are not on the best terms with the Imperium

to say the least

[severe folio]

but yeah

[idle bay]

They play Deep Rock Galactic while other galaxy plays WH40k

[severe folio]

warp gun please

[mighty fractal]

Votann are the actual supercomputers that they worship/revere

[severe folio]

want warp guns

[fading iris]

Space Dwarfs now have some OP 3D printer that they can print anything

[mighty fractal]

they're a very nice take on the classic dwarf archetype

[severe folio]

can they print the emperor

[mighty fractal]

also their concept art makes them look like the DRG dwarfs

[dire saffron]

anyone got a bonkers smite build?

[fading iris]

not even joking, they even clone themselves with that thing

[severe folio]

oh

thats concerning

[mighty fractal]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/4/42/KinDifferences.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20221110204148

rock and stone

yes they're a clone race

[severe folio]

i turn my columnus into a stubber

[mighty fractal]

they select the phenotypes that best suit them for mining and exploring and all that

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/63/KInandCOG.png/revision/latest?cb=20221113122527

look it's the engi

[severe folio]

guys what exactly does deathspitter does

[fading iris]

can't bonk and need more ppl? 3D printer goes brrrrrrrrrrr

[severe folio]

it said add powers on gun

[sudden trellis]

ROCK AND STONE

[severe folio]

but what does power do on IAG

[mighty fractal]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/LDcb6tCcgif8mAUw.jpg

[fading iris]

P E E K Human performance

[mighty fractal]

Driller and Bosco

[severe folio]

shit they really are playing DRG

happiest faction no longer ork

[mighty fractal]

https://i0.wp.com/boardgametoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Leagues-of-Votann-3.png?resize=860%2C860&ssl=1

They have some really cool minis ngl

yeah you'd think those two right there are kitbashed DRG dwarves LOL

[severe folio]

nice mining tools they got

i see a long range drill

[grand scroll]

They mine in Spesh Hulks

[mighty fractal]

But yeah, the Kin of the Leagues of Votann don't feel much kinship with the rest of humanity

they'll go to war with the Imperium over mining planets if they have to

[grand scroll]

They'll mine everything.

[mighty fractal]

I think in the current lore, the Imperium is starting to make inroads with the Leagues

but they're suspicious of outsiders

as typical of dawi

[grand scroll]

Oh wait

[severe folio]

idiot midgets

[grand scroll]

No, I remembered something

They have AI

[severe folio]

WHAT

[grand scroll]

Ironkin and Votann, to be exact.

[severe folio]

THEY DO ??

oh

my god

what are their AI called

[mighty fractal]

They still use a lot of tech left over from before the Dark Age of Tech

[sudden trellis]

Managment, my bet

[mighty fractal]

Ironkin are the dwarf-bots they use

[grand scroll]

^

[severe folio]

Clippy

holy shit

[mighty fractal]

The Votann themselves are giant supercomputers that store the history of their race, including the genetic templates used to create more Kin

[idle bay]

now i need to read all relevant Leagues of Votan lore...

[mighty fractal]

but some of the votann are starting to run out of RAM

basically

[severe folio]

same

[grand scroll]

The Ironkin are basically Starcraft's Purifier Protoss, but friendly by default.

[mighty fractal]

so the dwarves are trying to figure out how to save them (simply buy more RAM)

[fading iris]

Sanest Votann members https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU

[severe folio]

the Fane

[mighty fractal]

Unlike Warhammer Fantasy dwarfs, though, the Leagues actually praise innovation

oh yeah all of their units are super Norse-themed too

[fading iris]

as they should.

[mighty fractal]

they're actually even more dwarfy than WHFB dwarfs, in some ways

[grand scroll]

Do they drink a lot?

[fading iris]

this is no psyker-class anymore, this is a Votann-channel

[mighty fractal]

OF COURSE

🍻

(no leaf lovers though)

[grand scroll]

E x c e l l e n t

[grand scroll]

Dendrophile

[mighty fractal]

They also have huge laser beam cannons and gravity cannons

[grand scroll]

Their souls are "weaker", innit?

[mighty fractal]

so yeah, the Mechanicus would love to get their hands on that ish

[fading iris]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/164j7x3/codex_excerpt_the_kin_of_the_leagues_of_votann/

[grand scroll]

Like, smaller

[mighty fractal]

they're warp-resistant

like how dwarfs in WHFB resist magic

which means they're also less proficient at using magic

err warp powers 🙂

but they do have pseudo-runesmiths instead of actual psykers

[grand scroll]

Their Warp presence were modified to be smaller through selective genetic modifications, innit?

[dire saffron]

dwarfs suffer from their typical curse tho nomatter the universe

they get fucked somehow into near extinction

[grand scroll]

And their Psykers seem to be the more passive sort-

[grand scroll]

Votann RAM running out

[mighty fractal]

Low reproduction numbers, unwillingness to work with outsiders

[grand scroll]

Meaning cloning (their other form of reproduction) is becoming worse

[mighty fractal]

taking forever to pass on their knowledge

Yeah their unique weakness in 40k is that they're losing the means to keep cloning themselves because their AI demigods are running out of memory

[severe folio]

bro these guy are fukin ENGINEERS 😭

they made the dwarf so damn technologically intelligent

[mighty fractal]

or the data is becoming corrupted

[restive slate]

No better than Mechanicus imo

In practice

[mighty fractal]

their tech is better than Mechanicus, lorewise anyway

They use a lot of tech that the Mechanicus only dreams of finding from before the Dark Ages

[severe folio]

if your demi god supercomputer is running out of RAM

that is a serious matter

[restive slate]

My meaning is that they both worship their tech in a way and rever it to the point of near unwillingness to change

[mighty fractal]

they got to hold onto it because they weren't really around during the collapse of technology

[severe folio]

because its a supercomputer demi god

[mighty fractal]

Oh yeah

[severe folio]

the fact that its running out of RAM

[mighty fractal]

yeah you're correct then lol

though

[severe folio]

when its a supercomputer demigod

[mighty fractal]

They're also willing to change if needed

they do praise innovation

they're just slow at it

[severe folio]

wonder how dothey interact with necron

[restive slate]

I must consult the Elder Not-Gods

[severe folio]

actually, why would it be any different from necron interact with any races

its fukin necron

[restive slate]

Trazyn may interact differently

[mighty fractal]

Pretty sure they don't like Necron at all

[fading iris]

just try not to blow up your engine while doing it

[severe folio]

trazyn would collect the whole society

[restive slate]

"Imma steal their ancestor"

[mighty fractal]

That would be a good campaign for tabletop

[tawny jewel]

trazyn was secretly a rogue squat ai the entire time

[fading iris]

Now I want a Zudah F model kit.

[restive slate]

Me too

[mighty fractal]

I'm waiting on the squats to have Mobile Suits that put them on par with monstrous units in other armies

[fading iris]

and now I'm mad because we don't have one, Emperor Dang it Jojo

[restive slate]

As much as I love the Zaku, Zudah is way cooler

[fading iris]

It is

[restive slate]

Titans with beards

[mighty fractal]

hell yeah

[severe folio]

votann have mech right ?

where are the votann titans

[mighty fractal]

The Imperium technically do too

Titans, Dreadnoughts

[severe folio]

yes

well every faction have titans

[mighty fractal]

But Votann titans should be a cut above

[restive slate]

Imperial Knights

[severe folio]

except for dark eldar ?

[fading iris]

I mean, almost everybody has an dreadnought and titan version sooo

[severe folio]

does dark eldar have titans

[fading iris]

They used to be from the Imperium, so they probably have

[severe folio]

dark eldar used to be from the imperium ?

[fading iris]

Votann

[severe folio]

oh

looks like drukhari dont have titans

[restive slate]

Dark Eldar Titan is a giant BDSMbot

[severe folio]

hell yeah

would love to have one of those

[fading iris]

and now that you said about it, I don't know if the Dark Eldar have deprived versions of that type of thing.

[restive slate]

Wow the word b-d-s-m is not allowed

[severe folio]

they do not

they have a box full of tortured psyker souls though

[restive slate]

Imagine a sexy Evangelion style robot whipping and spanking an Imperator Titan

[severe folio]

like a grenade

throw the box and when all the souls fly out it makes all the psykers goes insane

[fading iris]

They probably have but nobody got time for that because the [Redacted] horror meme makes more money... and clowns.

I see that everybody got hit with the same automod at the same time

and if they have the log bots for that, the discord staff just got the most weird flag coming from this channel ever

Why the psykers are talking about...

[restive slate]

We're just edging our Perils

[fading iris]

insert the gif here

[severe folio]

hehe

[tawny jewel]

I live for the voices

[severe folio]

psyker shouldnt talk about drukhari

[tawny jewel]

why? two insane people work sooo well together.

[severe folio]

hahaha

drukhari dont take lightly on psykers

[tawny jewel]

yeah but it would be a sight to see

[severe folio]

the sight wouldnt be seen by psykers

[tawny jewel]

I just want to see an ego match between a psyker and drukhari

[severe folio]

well

the only time a psyker is working with the drukhari

is when that psyker is stripped of flesh and their soul trapped in that box

[silver portal]

Whats a drukhari?

[severe folio]

dark elf

dark eldar

[tawny jewel]

the only time I see a psyker working with a drukhari and not die is if they're apart the ynari

[severe folio]

doubt they gonna work for long

doubt they worked for long

[tawny jewel]

well it makes about as much sense as the rogue trader game having a druhkari companion

[restive slate]

What even happened to the Ynnari

[silver portal]

I hope they add more classes

Ratling class ftw

[restive slate]

Ratling as Ogryn throwable

[severe folio]

rogue traders are just a whole different gang breed

[silver portal]

Or ohryn ability to throw teamates to better tactical positions

[severe folio]

wouldnt be surprise if a rogue trader have a tech priest and a Kin in the same squad with a necron

[fading iris]

Tech Party!

[silver portal]

The god of the ad mech has arrived

[restive slate]

TechOrgy

[tawny jewel]

that and like three squat mercs and a aeldari corsair

[restive slate]

Advertisement Mech? Oh no...

[fading iris]

Darktide Ratling height slider will be "small" and "smaller"

[silver portal]

Toasterrr

[fading iris]

[silver portal]

Lost technology

[severe folio]

i recall that rogue trader game

that have an astropath, an unsanctioned psyker and an eldar on board

like wtf blud got 3 chicks of 3 different unlikely faction in the same boat

[restive slate]

How about in the same bed?

[severe folio]

maybe

ah i found it

its called

Crucible of Malediction

yes

this is the psyker grenade

[restive slate]

I remember, its an ability in Dawn of War Soulstorm

[severe folio]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Crucible_of_Malediction#:~:text=The Crucible of Malediction%2C also,abilities for fear of drawing

very fun

it has souls of tortured psyker inside

[silver portal]

Seems slannesh like

[severe folio]

well what do you expect

its drukhari

[silver portal]

Extraaa armsss

[severe folio]

when released, these psyker souls fly out in agony and cause nearby psykers to go insane from the wve of suffering

[fading iris]

classic grimdark

[severe folio]

very classic

the strongest crucible

is made from the soul of eldar psykers ironically

no, unironically

arsunyari seers

weakest crucible prob made from weirdboyz souls

lol

[silver portal]

Is there a thing called sakari?

[severe folio]

no

[silver portal]

Sakari my nutz.. got em

[fading iris]

[severe folio]

[cosmic sigil]

[static needle]

Does mobility stat matter in the slightest for melee weapons?

[plucky flax]

You want 50%+.

[idle bay]

It can be a godroll after Hadron done with it. Now it's just a great base.

[summer prairie]

mobility is noticeable with deimos

[static needle]

cause im wondering whether or not i should keep this

Guessing this is better

[plucky flax]

Force sword still have 5 dodges with low mobility. But with that low the dodge will be very s hort.

I would not use it.

[static needle]

so the transcendant illisi is better?

[idle bay]

So Force Sowrds are psyker's mobility scooters ? 🙂

[static needle]

tbh this one might be better even if its lower score. What yall think?

[idle bay]

Oh my i just realized that Dueling Sword lacked stat "Defenses"

[fading iris]

Your face is your shield!

[static needle]

i just wanna know what to use for the moment so i can min max properly with what i have

[glossy ember]

blessings on this one?

[glossy ember]

oh

[idle bay]

I thought it was fitting one stat for such fine sword...

[static needle]

i mean blazing spirit is great, right?

[glossy ember]

yeah i guess you could use this one and replace shred with uncanny strike

[vale nacelle]

Swap precog to shred and it’s 👌 for a soulblaze build.

[glossy ember]

dunno what you'd switch the carapace to though

check the aethenum i guess

it's likely to be flak

[idle bay]

Blazing Spirit + Shred on Illisi is one of the FUN combos (with soulfire related skill nodes in build that spread it), But it's mostly fun than practical sadly 🙂 However if used on mixed horde - there is it shines 🙂

[static needle]

what blessing is good to pair for blazing spirit on a voidstrike?

[fading iris]

Fun > practical

[idle bay]

Those extra bonus damage you spread all over - helps

[bleak tulip]

prob still nexus so you actually get some value out of blaze

[static needle]

based

[vale nacelle]

Warp Nexus is pretty alright, should have better uptime since you aren’t doing transfer memes.

[snow dust]

How am I suppose to use purgatus staff? charge then shoot or...spam left click?

[bleak tulip]

right click

[idle bay]

And true at heart. I mean - why do we play? To have fun!

[snow dust]

And what blessings/perks?

[bleak tulip]

charge depending on how fast you need the fire

and how much

the only thing the charge duration does it make it fire longer

[snow dust]

oh

[bleak tulip]

left click spam isnt super great, its more for stagger on big lads

try it out in psykh

[vale nacelle]

Nexus/Flurry is always a solid combo. Try to hit 5% crit on perks, since critical hits add 2 soulblaze stacks.

[idle bay]

Also Dueling sword + Shred or Illsi + Shred combined with Empathic Dodge - and you can melee non-stop while under 5 gunners barrage!

[bleak tulip]

pair purg with mk4 or deimos so you can actually do something to crushers

becasue the purg wont

[vale nacelle]

Empowered Psionics covers that.

With burst.

[snow dust]

thanks

[idle bay]

I even dare to say that proper crit Purgatus combined with Empathic dodge and you feel safe from shooting enemies why there something around to fry on Purgatus distance.

[vale nacelle]

100% this. Run 5% crit presence with the auto-range-dodge-on-crit node below it.

Big memes but big fun.

[idle bay]

Fatshark was beyond generous with Empathic dodge skill. i'd say

[fading iris]

I need to get some ordo, everything is better excluding dmg that on mine is 79%, is an good upgrade assuming that I don't get warped bonked by hadron

[static needle]

why do u want uncanny strike on illisi with blazing spirit? isnt bloodthirsty good?

[severe folio]

ifyou want to make a fire illisi

then yeah youd need blazing spirit

[static needle]

i already got that

[idle bay]

Godroll candidate

[severe folio]

otherwise a normal illisi deserve uncanny and bloodthirsty

[static needle]

was asking about which other blessing to run on illisi

[severe folio]

uncanny and bloodthirsty

shred and blazing spirit then

for that extra crit

[static needle]

ye

[severe folio]

extra chance to burn

[static needle]

does blazing spirit deal a lot of damage over time?

[severe folio]

its meh

not a lot of

you know

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-average-gif-14312851

[severe folio]

you needto crit every single enemy inthat swing to apply blaze on all the enemy you want

[whole oxide]

ask yourself, how often are you in a situation where you're meleeing something and it doesn't die within 2 seconds

[static needle]

but i do still get a feeling that using blazing spirit on voidstrike can work quite well if youre getting overwhelmed

[idle bay]

On low stacks - low damage. It's good gamage when there are a lot of stacks. But every bit of extra damage herer and there can be helpful in long run

[severe folio]

thats because thats voidstrike

[static needle]

kill ads -> apply soulblaze

[severe folio]

this is illisi

[static needle]

i guess yeah

[severe folio]

and beside

even a normal voidstrike does better than a blaze voidstrike

voidstrike already does good

with or without blae

soulblaze

[static needle]

well what illisi should one pair with blaze voidstrike tho?

[tired knoll]

low amounts of soulblaze stacks dont do much

[vale nacelle]

The selling point is that all of the soulblaze stacks spread and add on to each other every time something dies with soulblaze on it.

[idle bay]

Voidstrike is just slow Plasmagun that you can add extra feauters on

[snow dust]

You've jinxed it, now you'll surely be bonked by Hadron

[terse saffron]

what blessings do i get on this one?

[idle bay]

If you cheese Smite + True aim + Void (Surge + Warp nexus blessings) combo - you can get guaranteed double crits from void

[static needle]

rampage?

[static needle]

lol, exactly what my other build is

[whole oxide]

except, they don't

[static needle]

hol up tho does smite give garantueed crits?

[severe folio]

no

i mean

its not 100% crit chance is it

it just improve critchance upon attacking

also for dclaw you want savage sweep

[static needle]

oh really

[severe folio]

and rampage or shred

yeah because savage sweep improve cleaving

dclaw do good cleave, so gotta up its cleaving ability, and then its damage

[whole oxide]

i like the question-mark reaction without any comment

[snow dust]

what should the 2nd perk be?

[vale nacelle]

Unsure.

[snow dust]

Flak?

.....what's good against ragers?

and ogryns?

[vale nacelle]

Looks at talent node that spreads up to 4 stacks of soulblaze when something dies with it active.

[glossy ember]

post the gambling

[severe folio]

i mean

its spreading but its not multiplying

[whole oxide]

yes, and its hard-capped at 4, which means you can't keep spreading more and more, it'll never go above 4

[severe folio]

its just even out the total soulblazeyou made around

at the cap of 4 even

if an enemy already have 4 stacks, its not going to go above when spreaded into

and if an enemy already have 3 stacks, its still gonna consume all 4 stacks only to add up 1

[tired knoll]

it like adds up to 4 but only stacks up to the amount the enemy had when it died and gl getting more than 4 stacks on a poxwalker before it just dies

[whole oxide]

the idea of how people imagine wildfire working, and the reality, are quite different

[glossy ember]

well you'd expect it to work as its name implies

should be renamed tamedfire

[severe folio]

everyday we have to have the wildfire conversation at least twice

it should be renamed pyretic because thats what it do

it makes things more flammable

not quite burning, just a lil searing

[viscid matrix]

its worse than that, it spreads those 4 stacks out across everything, so only 4 enemies get 1 stack of soulblaze, or if it was 2 enemies, they get 2 soulblaze stacks each

[severe folio]

i know

honestly, that at least seem like a normal even mechanic

[viscid matrix]

basicly its a wasted point, noone should ever take it, not when there are far more impactful nodes that are way better

[severe folio]

but i think the worse part of it is that it cannot get an enemy above 4 stacks

but more than that

it will waste soulblaze on enemies that it cannot get above 4 stacks

it could put those stacks on enemies that have no stacks

but it could waste all of them on an enemy that cannot have it

[clear heath]

it spreads evenly anyways. If it's wasting on enemies that have 4 already, that means there was nothing in range that had below 4 stacks

[severe folio]

making those 4 stacks disappear

[viscid matrix]

it spreads to a max of 4 enemies and sometimes corpses

[round summit]

what is blaze sword good against?

[severe folio]

against

horde

yes horde

[half iron]

sliceable enemies

[whole oxide]

against literally nothing

[viscid matrix]

Illisi Horde
Deimos Single Target

[round summit]

what about dualist

[half iron]

can you slice the enemy?
exactly. loser.

[round summit]

duelling sword

[idle bay]

Are in favor of skill nodes that you can squeeze more benefit more often over nodes that provide narrow situationl benefits?

[viscid matrix]

single target heavy armoured enemies

[round summit]

so that makes more sense with smite build then

[severe folio]

the mk4 dueling sword is good against everything

[viscid matrix]

Deimos and DS are almost on par with each other, and have the same blessings they use

[severe folio]

its a single target base

so it kills everything at tunnel style

especially carapace and flak

maniac too

its not as good in horde, but it is servicable

[idle bay]

And can poke leathal holes in a-holes ragers. Maulers and Crushers

[round summit]

what perks for dueling sword?

[severe folio]

maniac, unyielding

[viscid matrix]

[round summit]

sorry i ment blessings

[severe folio]

for trappers, ragers, mutant, reapers, bulwark

blessing is uncanny, rampage/shred

[viscid matrix]

check the guide, he lists blessings and perks and ranks them

[severe folio]

rampage is bugged right now to give wopping 85% damage when cleave 3 enemies

[idle bay]

I storngly advise to check guild in pinned. ALL weapons listed with blessings and perks by tiers of goodness there

[round summit]

yes was just looking

yeah sorry missed guides

ty

[viscid matrix]

the guide is a very good base, its on par with the Ogrynomicon

[severe folio]

i am the vox guide servitor

fuk the orgynomicon

[idle bay]

Check guide, try things and udjust to playstyle of your liking @round summit

[half iron]

i would turn a veteran into glue with the glue machine that turns people into glue

[idle bay]

Becuse some things , blessing/perk/eapon combos might be really really good... but not just fun to use for personal likes/dislikes

Like Trauma staff - it's damage beast. That i can't use or or it unnerves me beyond reason with it's targeting

[viscid matrix]

i think you mean corpse starch

[viscid matrix]

i hate the targeting too 😄

[whole oxide]

honestly, most things make only small change to performance, and won't impact whether you win or lose, only thing that really changes how you play a weapon is Uncanny Strike

[half iron]

glue. adhesive. stuff that makes thing stick to other thing. i would glue two(2) chainswords on my arms as i activate scrier’s gaze

[severe folio]

that sound familiar

[half iron]

do not compare my mind to them

[severe folio]

ah yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WZdQk6Aqbg

[viscid matrix]

uncanny strike is only a must if you plan to use your melee weapon for killing Crushers and Maulers

[whole oxide]

well, exactly, it changes whether you decide to use melee or not in that situation

[idle bay]

Or bosses with Deimos

[night crater]

I can't play without disrupt destiny anymore. It's just too slow, tedious and boring. Gunsker ftw

[severe folio]

understandable

[viscid matrix]

uncanny does nothing against bosses, its a wasted blessing for that

Unyielding isnt armour

[idle bay]

It used to be when you was abe to get multiplier over 100%

I keep foregrting that it was fixed

[severe folio]

unless you rolled yourself into a monst maelstrom

chance that you will be seeing more carapace than unyielding

[idle bay]

squads of 20 Crushers

[severe folio]

beside,

unyielding damage on mk4 is very nice

like almost as much as against unarmored

[fading iris]

Something weird just happened...

[severe folio]

uncanny wont do much but that blessing is for the carapace

so now your mk4 can handle both kind

[viscid matrix]

tbh when i am not using ds or deimos for single target
i use this Illisi

[idle bay]

From Dueling Sword perspective - Carapace is as good as dry rice paper

[severe folio]

its a miracle that the dueling sword isnt powered

its just raw steel

[fading iris]

everything that I was aiming with my surge staff RMB was getting one shot.

[severe folio]

do you know why

[half iron]

bc rizz

[idle bay]

Description says that DS require very skilles swordsmans to use effectively. SO it's a skill 🙂

[glossy ember]

steel blessed by the beneficent emperor

[severe folio]

we are def not skilled swordman

[idle bay]

Like every psyker on Mourning start is a badass skillen swordsman

And wear same face mostly

My clone army rejects theory still stands

[half iron]

would explain all the harkens

[fading iris]

first thing.

[idle bay]

Already amazning!

[fading iris]

got run `n gun tier 3

[idle bay]

1 out 4

You just need to get 2 good perks/or blessings or 1 good of each

[viscid matrix]

its probably a misericorde like what the custodes have

[fading iris]

** ++ PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH ++ **

[half iron]

now that is epic (like the games launcher)

[idle bay]

It made from chunks of plotarmro that Ultramarines have

[viscid matrix]

now if only it didnt have buggy targeting that lets you hit limbs for half damage

[fading iris]

and I have warp flurry tier 4.

[idle bay]

Godroll. 2 good ones and 2 replacables = godroll

[viscid matrix]

could be, one of the Sisters of Silence got one

[fading iris]

I still playing with surge even with the bug, now I'm very happy because I was stuck with old thing for milennia...

and ofc I'm worried too, because I totally spent a lot of luck on the rolls

Nothing is free in the Universe

[viscid matrix]

give it a month or 2 and it will be fixed, FS are very slow to fix anything, and we have no idea how they find out about what we see when we play

[idle bay]

Speaking of Plot andf Plot armor. Imagine novel about Comissar Cain joinig up with Lamenters for a mission.

[viscid matrix]

would be kinda cool tbh

[fading iris]

Still amazes me how a damage coding passed QA as cosmetic

[idle bay]

Mission goes smooth - all hardship fall to Cain and he deal with it. No causaltis. Cain goes off back to his buisinees Lamenters : WTF was that?

[fading iris]

but hey, I like the game, patience is a virtue, I could be mad and/or pissed... or I can try have fun with the cards delt

[idle bay]

You assume too much.. like assuming that they have QA

[fading iris]

Poor Jimmy, he just want to code in peace

[idle bay]

It's a small family company. No room for QA, if mistakes are made it's extra work hours then

[fading iris]

now I need to test what the heck I change the perk to(or even if I want to), I think I'm gonna summon pygex

[plucky flax]

Hrmm voidstrike is still okay? @bleak tulip

[idle bay]

To the type of enemies you need it most for. Carapace if it you want less zaaps to kill Crushers - that will be my choice

[fading iris]

at least is something that I will be able to change if needed

[paper loom]

any gun bros advise if this is ok and what perks/blessings i should aim for ?

[fading iris]

no lock will hold me down!

and again this is wierd, my surge staff is behaving like the limb damage problem is gone.

[viscid matrix]

unyeilding to make kiling bosses easier, or Flak/carapace depedingon what you want to have an easier time killing

[idle bay]

Headhunter + Infernus + Crit chance

[paper loom]

ah so its kinda crap?

[idle bay]

bricked .. just bricked

[paper loom]

dumdum is ok tho isnt it?

[viscid matrix]

tbh you can swap sustained to infernus, and then swap sprint to crit

dumdum is a good blessing too

[paper loom]

so i could swap sustained fire

amd sprint

[fading iris]

Gonna put sprint efficiency to combo with the best curios

[sour bison]

thanks Hardon

[fading iris]

They can't hit you if they can't catch you / aim at you

[idle bay]

She crafted it with her wooden peg leg for shure

[glossy ember]

time for scrier's gaze memes

[sour bison]

actually

not bad idea

lmao

[glossy ember]

unyielding and uhhh the power per peril one

what's it called

unstable

weak spot > unyielding

Precog > unstable

run scrier

[viscid matrix]

Unstable power

[plucky flax]

Gazer.

[viscid matrix]

Scriers is amazing for a melee build

[glossy ember]

sounds like a strong weapon to me

congrats

[viscid matrix]

go with DD for that move speed so you can run zealot fast

[sour bison]

wtf

how i dont have unstable

saved

[glossy ember]

bro...

[sour bison]

wat

[glossy ember]

just run whatever until you get it i guess

shred or uncanny or uhhhh idk

[light quail]

hell yeah
scriers gaze + disrupt destiny and the movement speed node

[glossy ember]

executor?

slaughterer

[light quail]

playing them again, im surprised how solid psyker keystones are
even disrupt destiny is pretty damn good

warp charges are stilll the best though

[idle bay]

Have you noticed, siblings that few last patches made less Blessing undisireable for our weapons of choice? I mean it became easier to craft something that "will do for now". And it's not copium - i still hate crafting system more than whole wh40k universe hates Erebus

[fading iris]

soooo close

[idle bay]

+17% toughness is a myth.. thay barely exists beyond our dreams. You need to really stalk the store hunting for those. Checking every hour (therea re mod that auto-buys).

[fading iris]

I don't use mods, the Emperor guides me.

[idle bay]

Then manualy check the store every hour 🙂

There are browser extantion for that

I remember now! Thickest plot armor in whole WH40K univers is weared by Erebus...

Not even naked Nathaniel Garro can come close to THAT plot armor

[near wyvern]

mmmm, myth you say?

[idle bay]

i have one!

One! And that's it.

And it's bricked 🙂

[near wyvern]

calssic hadron

[idle bay]

Also why Gunner res on Psyker? We kind offf immune to gunners?

[near wyvern]

the others were ordo and xp

[idle bay]

or it's old one?

Classic Hadron it is 🙂

[near wyvern]

I take little benefit over no benefit anytime

[idle bay]

I am at the point of game progess that i think Ordo dockets are good on Curios - to gamble more wil Brunt

[near wyvern]

I am past that

[idle bay]

I'll stop when i get 380 Surge from Brunt...

[near wyvern]

If I want to upgrade my gear, I will need to invest like 100 hours just to get a chance and then I would still need to go through Hadron

[idle bay]

I set a limit for myself: no more than 500k on gambling with Brunt per weapon. And i met my quota so far for every new weapon.

[near wyvern]

I roll from 3 mil to 2.5 mil or buy a docket cosmetic to alt at 3 mil

I don't set any goals, just whenever I have 3 mil I spend some

[idle bay]

Is still need to beat urge to improve my non-psyker character weapons. And when i failto do so it's a good roll after 4-5 purchases from Brunt and then godroll from ahdron on 1-2 attempts. So infuriating!

[wet belfry]

Im getting to the point where i have built acceptable versions of all the weapons in the game.

[fading iris]

"But it can do this?!"

[wet belfry]

Worst thing left is the iron helm thunder hammer

I still remember how hard it was too make a crucis

[glossy ember]

3 of those + combat knife

[idle bay]

Every +3 Stamina curios is have on psyker are bricked.. save but one.... .and few i still sacred to upgraed to Orange

[plain rune]

bricked smh

[fading iris]

The Emperor just gifted me this lol

would be so funny if was 17%

[viscid matrix]

you can get easy curios with the mystery shop at melk, can spend your weekly on it, only way around the 1-2 per hour you can get from normal shop

[idle bay]

3 Stamina +3 Curios , 20% Block eff on weapon, +12% Block eff on each curio, +2 stamina on Weapon. Kinetic deflection. I want to see if i get to 100% peril in 2 or 3 seconds under Damnation DH blows

[fading iris]

Is the only "safe" mystery

[wet belfry]

Thunder hammers have 10 blessings with only 3 of them being good.

[bitter escarp]

idk why fatshark didn't make items have an xp system to level their shit up

increases "engagement" artificially too

you'll see mfs play 42 games for the xp to take a weapon from 379 to 380

[viscid matrix]

why would you get extra stamina? it doesnt reduce the stamina cost of blocking
at that point you just want it for sprinting for longer or push attacks i guess

[bitter escarp]

a few were outright dogshit and didn't work

[bleak tulip]

even for push attacks it kind of doesnt matter because psyker stam regen is so good

and its not like you gotta save it for blocking

[bitter escarp]

though IIRC cleave changes made them merely mediocre

[bleak tulip]

unless youre really cheaping out on talent points

or dont use something that needs true aim

[plucky flax]

Only real voidstrike enjoyers can play without the charge up bars.

[bitter escarp]

IIRC it does change peril scaling from blocking, but it's not something I've tested or have a stake in

[bitter escarp]

judging when to shoot by the ripeness of the warp bowling ball

[plucky flax]

Aye. More visual distraction.

I'm that good I nerf myself.

(Inb4 I throw because I shoot too slow.)

[bleak tulip]

never

better too fast than too slow

[bitter escarp]

holding out for the perfect chorus of cleave limit of headshots

can't believe they nerfed the audio on that

[glossy ember]

god i miss surge staff

[plucky flax]

Fix nextweek™.

Fartshart time.

[fading iris]

"low-intensity hunting grounds" watch the AI director going crazy

[bitter escarp]

low intensity is bait

sherpa'd a couple mates into one the other day and they got absolutely ruined by ragers

[plucky flax]

They nerfed assail, voidstrike, handcannon
They broke surge
I'm scared for my trauma

[bitter escarp]

might have scared them off going up in difficulty tbqh

trauma about to cop PTSD

[idle bay]

Stamina reduces cost of Peril blocking from Kinetic Deflection. And it's very noticable. Pygex used to have a formula in his guide

[bleak tulip]

"new aoe corresponds to the donut"

[bitter escarp]

but what if they made the epicentre hit count as a weakspot hit?

[plucky flax]

That'll be rip blaze trauma.

[bitter escarp]

in exchange

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[viscid matrix]

@near wyvern that formula still apply or did they remove it?

[idle bay]

@near wyvern also Block cost reduction from Defelector working or stil bugged?

[plucky flax]

I never felt like 'wow I really needed more stamina during this clutch'

Can always use more hp tho

[idle bay]

HP is illusion, only mobility blocking and dodging are keeping sibling alive 🙂 Though i swapped from stam+th+health to x2 Th + health..

[vestal fulcrum]

They will nerf trauma because it basically trivialises elite mixed horde waves introduced just recently

[plucky flax]

I use 2 hp 1 toughness

90 toughness is a bit too sus even for me

[vestal fulcrum]

Jk, I hope they never touch Trauma unless it severely limits the design space. It’s the Conflagration staff done correctly

[orchid nest]

I don't think it's bad but I would personally only use a stam curio if I was greeding kinetic deflection points. I take KD so I don't need a stam curio

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

Me waiting for blazing spirit t4

[idle bay]

fatshark think that 4 stacks of Soulfire is too much. They will never give t4 Blazing spirit....

[plucky flax]

Tru they did nerf combustion from 4 to 3.

[viscid matrix]

they want to keep soulblaze low because they need it to be viable to have 4 purga builds active at once all still work 😄

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-rub-gif-5850915

When I see a purg psyker in the same game when using blaze trauma