psyker-class

[thorn cedar]

I gave up trying that

Just Deimos them in the face instead

[trim garnet]

its handy if you run illisi (like me)

[sudden trellis]

we're getting Smite 101 here. school's in.

[trim garnet]

though ive found that with disrupt destiny at 15 stacks i can oneshot mutants with an illisi special heavy weakspot hit

without critting

[long coyote]

@trim garnet Which blitzdo you run with it? Classic no upgrade smite as panic button?

[trim garnet]

yep

[near wyvern]

yes but same as RMB takes some seconds before they are stopped

[summer prairie]

don't see a reason to ever use smite lmb

[long coyote]

thx :)

[thorn cedar]

Ah thats why

[quasi robin]

what build

[trim garnet]

if you want full talent tree lmk

[thorn cedar]

I only spam fire for left click lol

[trim garnet]

its pretty standard though

[thorn cedar]

Tickle a grenade right out of a bombers hands etc.

[near wyvern]

then you are not catching those dogs!

dog goes past ya, give them a zap

dog comes at ya, quick zap and then tap from the revolver

[trim garnet]

the point of smite lmb is that its instant

[near wyvern]

a lot easier to shoot at when they are not bouncing around

[trim garnet]

you arent meant to be holding lmb for hordes, thats what rmb is for

but lmb is noncommital

[summer prairie]

your staff lmb works just as well and smite lmb doesnt have that much autoaim

[thorn cedar]

I'm a gunker

[trim garnet]

gunker + if you arent using purgatus then i would point out that smite lmb is way more stagger for things like mutants, flamers etc

i havent actually tested if purgatus lmb can stop a mutant charge

probably not

[summer prairie]

can you show how you smite lmb stagger mutants

[trim garnet]

1 tick then let go and the shove will do it

[summer prairie]

everything staggers flamers

[trim garnet]

ill get some psykhanium footage rq

[long coyote]

Do you run the reduced peril gain on scriers with voidstrike or the extra finesse?

[trim garnet]

i find the finesse unnecessary damage

it would let you kill a crusher in one full charge rmb crit without having to follow up with a half charge rmb

thats about it

also monstrosity damage ig

but i think the peril reduction is much better

[thorn cedar]

I do finesse. Makes it much easier to hit 30 stacks, sometimes comically so

For me Gaze is what I use when I have no more DD targets to milk

[trim garnet]

oh yeah i forgot about the stack effect

thats a good point

i personally use gaze as the "im going to have to kill elites now" button in my dd/scrier setup

[sudden trellis]

IRL?

[trim garnet]

but if you are activating it very frequently then its a fair point on the easier stacking

im very typically ending gaze at 20 stacks

i pop it when i need to kill a lot of elites very quickly

or monstrosity damage

otherwise i find it unnecessary for specials or non mixed hordes

its not like thats how you have to use it ofc

[near wyvern]

https://streamable.com/ohqrld

[sudden trellis]

is this the old yeller remake?

damn, though. i need to keep in mind not to sleep on smite M1

[near wyvern]

yeah you can just bully basically anything else than ogryns, mutants and boses with it, still the +1 target upgrade is useless

yes your LMB would target two enemies but if you have 2 things to worry about just charge up that RMB cause you gonna have more right after

https://streamable.com/dk2roj

^ bullying dog with just tapping LMB

sorry for the effed up audio, had the other video playing on the background 😅

[sudden trellis]

gonna have to call PETA after this one

[near wyvern]

no (living) animals were harmed in making these videos

[thorn cedar]

this is PETA

[sudden trellis]

(psykers eating those assails)

[summer prairie]

Dogs don't do much now anyway regardless of what you do if you aren't surprisedhttps://streamable.com/4mp9e8

(maybe with lag)

[thorn cedar]

Dogs are alllllmost at burster level for me

All I need is the soundcue and I can push them

[wet belfry]

Ok that example might be abit unjustifed since force swords have one of the longest pushing radiuses in the game

[spiral storm]

They need to adjust the hitbox for dogs

[summer prairie]

fair

[spiral storm]

it feel slike you don't even need the push to connect

to stop them

It feels like as long as you used push in their general presence they get staggered

[steel solstice]

I'm replacing infested with crit chance and its okay-ish?

[sudden trellis]

tbh, if this works on trappers, I'm even happier.
had way too many moments where I see the net fly past me and yet I get dongled

[near wyvern]

trappers, flamers, bombers, everything that is not ogryn sized or a mutant or a boss

for ogryn sized you need to hold them under zap similarly to RMB

even works on ragers mid attack swings

so save that team mate sibling

[lyric rapids]

What melee weapon is now recommended for psykers?

[sudden trellis]

thanks for the tip, overall.
also, as far as support psyker goes, I feel like despite the dome's ability to herd cats, shriek lets you actually create that space to pry vets off the ground

[near wyvern]

same as patch # 14 so check atheneum

[near wyvern]

the problem with bubble is average player goes "ooh safe house" and if it becomes unsafe they won't leave it cause they assume it's just worse everywhere else

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

avg player base ^

[lyric rapids]

Which one should I take?

[wintry jackal]

what do you go for the revolver blessings

[late yew]

monitor photo

oh god

[lyric rapids]

It’s still better than the garlic bread heresy 🤣

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[lyric rapids]

So which sword is better?

[summer prairie]

Don't take anything until you are 30 unless they have a good T4 blessing

[glossy ember]

ey pygex did you check if the evasion talent that gave 50% duration is stille brokethis patch

[summer prairie]

that's never getting fixed until someone bug reports it and even then not holding my breath

[glossy ember]

dam'

if it ever gets fixed i'd honestly consider removing one -5% peril generation nodes from my staff scrier build....

[late yew]

why would you need that talent even

[glossy ember]

it's always nice to have

[thorn cedar]

So I can accidentally dodge off the Torrent Bridge avoiding a dog

[sudden trellis]

they made the bubble too comfy..

[glossy ember]

that extra dodge is nice

and well 50% more duration on dodge sounds kinda insane

[near wyvern]

if it worked

but since it doesn't

it's just 1 extra dodge for 1 talent point

lmao

[glossy ember]

yeah

which is kinda shit over -5% peril generation

[summer prairie]

is it

[near wyvern]

if it worked and affected empathic evasion we could have something

[glossy ember]

gawd that'd be

1.5 second invuln vs ranged every crit

imagine

[lime creek]

is finesse important on the Illisi?

[near wyvern]

gives attack speed so yeah

[late yew]

"Sorry, but your mission was aborted by unexpected error"

wtf is this shit

[kind jay]

[obtuse walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smell-bad-banish-banished-gif-25623088

[late yew]

it also was when we did 95% of the map

and started killing captain

[near wyvern]

It's FS telling you can't have fun

[stable silo]

@bragi good staff ya thats the play inf to critc hance to bad maniac wasnt flak but it will work great

[frigid zenith]

Gunpsyker is still a meme, that is all.

[late yew]

average no power mission lighting conditions

[echo frigate]

Unfortunately not

[late yew]

we really fucked because of me

i accidentally hit DH with BB

That was not even visible

[echo frigate]

Only 2 dead at max

DH fights are always fun

Sometimes you can kill the DH before it takes all of your money

Sometimes

[late yew]

"only"

this was auric no power mission

2 dead is end of the run

[quasi junco]

well with that attitude....

[west fjord]

Should I just throw Maniac and Unyielding on this and be done? 25% Maniac will puts it right on the breakpoint for 1 shotting mutants

[plucky flax]

Me when I solo clutch countless of times.

[lime creek]

hey guys if im playing with smite, voidstrike. Using the warp siphon talents. Do i play differently? cus i dont really understand like how to play with it, not seeing the appeal using ot pver EP

[summer prairie]

you get to shout more often, that's about it if you run shriek

[lime creek]

nah I run bubble

and smite

[bronze cipher]

Bubble is really useful against ranged and smite is great for stopping the horde thats coming for you. You can't really finish the enemies tho so the rest of your team needs to kill them while you are keeping them stunned. Tho I use Empowered Psyonics so the lightning spreads faster between them and actually deal some dmg.

[sterile sable]

whats the meta surge build nowadays?

[neon steppe]

Meta surge build right now is to run a different staff lol

Though you should run it if you like it, it’s just nerfed a lot

[fallen zodiac]

it borky rn :C

[near wyvern]

if we are honest, yes you shoudl wait on surge until next hotfix

the fix is already in the way

[sterile sable]

😦 i just wanna be a support bot

[bronze cipher]

I hate the way they nerfed Assail on my boi.

[uneven compass]

You pick up the weak spot talent on the bottom right above disrupt destiny that gives you crits more often, and unarmored/flak damage. It's still pretty bleh but it's the only way to make it usable @sterile sable

[near wyvern]

in that case you should try combat blade & revolver with the following:

[bronze cipher]

At least they could reduce the casting time and peril cost on the secondary cast on assail to actually make it worth it to cast it like that.

[sterile sable]

Revolver? O_O havent played in a while

[near wyvern]

peril cost reduction is not needed but cast time holy shit yes

[near wyvern]

it works

[bronze cipher]

not by much but like 25% --> 20%

I would be fine with that

[uneven compass]

Assail feels alright if you're solely using it to thin out a horde or a group of ranged. I do miss getting to use it as a main weapon tho 😔

[near wyvern]

it's funny, Assail feels the best with Trauma

and Purge

[bronze cipher]

Yes. But now its ages if you ran out until you can use it again

Switched to smite because of it

[near wyvern]

which is fine cause you are supposed to weave it and use your weapon bonuses to buff those few throws

[uneven compass]

Pretty much have to use it to burst down a horde then swap off it

[near wyvern]

https://streamable.com/pda6zo

some assail damage for ya

[uneven compass]

I'm liking it with surge staff(I know I know), once they hopefully fix surge damage it's a very good combination

[limber tartan]

I was gonna ask how the fuck does it deal soo much damage and then noticed that you've got a christmass tree of buffs

[near wyvern]

the biggest is the deadly accurate, +100% crit weakspot damage

[bronze cipher]

Yes BUT they just nerfed the spamming against the horde (by reducing dmg), now they nerfed the cooldown.

[near wyvern]

I also have opening salvo on that

[bronze cipher]

It really feels like they want you to use it with secondary cast

but its just shitty

[near wyvern]

so +20% flat damage to darts straight away by just drawing the weapon out and not firing a shot until they land

[limber tartan]

Deadly accurate applies to assail as well ?

Does it apply to brain burst ?

[near wyvern]

all active weapon blessings affect assail damage

[near wyvern]

no cause you cannot draw your weapon out before the damage is done

the game claculates damage ticks based on currently active buffs, crits are only rolled on cast

[limber tartan]

Oh true

[near wyvern]

but damage is calculated at the time of impact

[limber tartan]

You did swap to the gun when you threw assail

[near wyvern]

yes

[limber tartan]

Soo therefore the buff applied to assail aswell

[near wyvern]

which gives a crit headshot +120% damage on top of that warp siphon 24% and malefic momentum +20%

it's very funny to go melee with uncanny slaughterer illisi and then weave in assails there

[limber tartan]

That's nice

[near wyvern]

cause then you have 100% rending and 40% power or something on the darts

and assails ofc also stack up uncanny strike if they land on heads while wielding your melee

[limber tartan]

yea it combos really nice with some blessings

[uneven compass]

I feel you on that, it could be a lot better. I do find on Auric Damnation it does it's job of thinning out a horde and handling gunners ok enough. I'd be happy with a far stronger charged cast

[flat moat]

Since the surge staff is in the gutter again, would I be better at switching to the fire staff or the big ball staff, they both seem like good hoard wreckers but outside of that I don't really know the difference.

[limber tartan]

Would it work with the revolver crit chance blessings when you aim

I asume soo

Also how does crit work on these chards, if you happen to crit a "shard throw" and therefore every time it hits something it will always be a crit or does it calculate the chances for each hit after it has been thrown

[fresh reef]

Grab Smite with True Aim and Surgestrike

[near wyvern]

Smite with True Aim and Revolver is funny

[fresh reef]

Smite with True Aim in general is funny

[near wyvern]

Yes

[fresh reef]

Guaranteed crits are humorous

[near wyvern]

That might be gone on next hot fix cause based on the messaging it seems the change was intended to be cosmetic only to reduce the amount of disintegrating enemies

[uneven compass]

Ya there's a reply about it on the forums saying they're fixing surge in the next hot fix which is apparently already being processed or something

[limber tartan]

Wait you mean that the whole dude exploding applies also when you swap to revolver and kill them with the guaranteed crit or is it just about the crit

[mighty olive]

Not sure why they changed the cosmetic to begin with, I loved decorating in blood!

[uneven compass]

Saw a crushers arm explode yesterday but full gory explosion was far far better

[steady yarrow]

Do we know what kind of changes to surge are being made? They getting rid of limb targeting?

[fresh reef]

Next week is real ‼️

[uneven compass]

No idea, looking thru that forum post and she didn't specify anything more except the above

[fluid knot]

Probably that yeah, its gotta have been caused by an issue relating to them untieing Surge from Smite

[uneven compass]

I wish I had a large enough hopium tank to believe the surge hotfix will be today so we get a fun weekend of fixed surge

[orchid nest]

knowing fatshark instead of a well coded solution they will probably just fix it by making it do double damage to limbs before it gets halved or something

[near wyvern]

I mean that instead of every enemy exploring to thousands of pieces when killed by smite or surge, they intended the visual effect to randomly explode a body part (where torso makes the whole enemy explode).

What they did was make smite and surge actually target random body parts, causing them to do less damage on average since hitting legs and arms are more likely and deal less damage than body.

However that also means they can hit heads, so you can use smite (and surge) to stack up true aim. Combine this with revolver which has a high critical hit multiplier and fast weapon swap speed and you have some goofiness.

[steady yarrow]

I wanted weakpoint damage, but not like this 🫠

[near wyvern]

Which likely means they already finished the hotfix and will publish it as fast as Microsoft approves it for Xbox.

[mighty olive]

So it's xbox holding up the fix, naughty naughty console xD

[lime creek]

I wanna keep deflector but what blessing should I get isntead of shred? and perks

[bronze cipher]

just delay the update on the console version only

[untold widget]

Slaughterer probably

[lime creek]

gotcha

and what should I change the mele crit dmg too?

[near wyvern]

Crossplay disagrees

[bronze cipher]

Disable crossplay

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-evil-laugh-fire-flames-burning-gif-24546963

[plucky flax]

Omg I am recognised.

[glossy ember]

i'd personally keep both blessings and change the perks

but that's cuz i love shred

[orchid nest]

to be fair to console it hasn't slowed down their pace of fixes really somehow. they always take a while even for important things

[near wyvern]

Based on the Xbox update process the patch is ready to publish next week

[fresh reef]

#NextWeek!!

[summer prairie]

they previous hotfix was 2 days after the anniversary update

[fresh reef]

And on a Thursday

That's the important part

[near wyvern]

Might have gotten a speed lane

[fresh reef]

Have they ever updated on a Friday, weekend, anything besides the two T days?

[near wyvern]

Not really, and in general you don't update before weekends and holidays

If you are a good IT guy

[quasi junco]

damn the trauma/blaze build is so awesome, I recommend people try it if they are looking for something new

[plucky flax]

I heard it was really bad and need buff.

[near wyvern]

It is perhaps the strongest build right now

[glossy ember]

do an update on friday evening
several things stop functioning

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

[hot zephyr]

I manufactured this for use with the Warp Battery Gunner build (spun a few Brant's and found this and rolled the dice at Hadron)
Not ideal, but it came out fairly nice. Had a couple really nice runs with it last night

[bleak tulip]

Sedition hero

[plucky flax]

You can only find me in low intensity sedition.

[orchid nest]

they could have also put in the update for cert and realized right after they had to put the hotfix in cert before we even received the anniversary update

[fresh reef]

Unless you're one of the weirdos who hates Trauma's aiming mechanic that is

[near wyvern]

Make sure to run smite

[quasi junco]

Here is the build I am using for those curious https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9aa29f94-8f95-4e4c-8aa9-17d1a8823530

[near wyvern]

You need a stable peril source now

[quasi junco]

The sword is for defensive purposes only

[near wyvern]

Replace sword blazing spirit with Slaughterer

[hot zephyr]

-nods- I'm running the Atheneum Battery Gunner build

[quasi junco]

I'll try that, as I rarely notice BS proccing on sword hits

Just staff

[fresh reef]

Blazing Spirit is a meme since it encourages you to use unempowered hits

[hot zephyr]

I actually have found that when you see a special/elite pack you can use SG and then rebuild your stacks with a couple quick headshots

[fresh reef]

That said it's still a fun meme

[quasi junco]

On staff its quite good

[hot zephyr]

So it's less a "never use SG" and more a "you need to be strategic about when you pop gaze"

[fresh reef]

Oh absolutely no question there

[quasi junco]

The VS to kinetic resonance makes BB actually fun to use

[limber tartan]

I run scrier's gaze and with the perk that reduces cooldown per specialist kill in majority of cases im just using it on whenever it is available, it just drastically increases my output, coupled with fully stacked dd it gives really good results

Technically the cooldown is 30 seconds but you still retain the benefits for 10 soo you could say that its just on a 20 second down time - what you manage to kill in specialists, that means its pretty much always available and even if its not it will be back really quick

[near wyvern]

Having a proper vet in the team will ruin your day xD

Pops gaze, wait where did the elites go!

[limber tartan]

I have never lost a game in that 20 second window (except one time where literally 3 people got simultaneously 100 to 0 by a mauler overhead from behind) soo the downtime is not an issue

[near wyvern]

Scrier's is just much better with transfer peril void

[limber tartan]

Well the damage you get from scrier's is really nice and it helps however it is not always guaranteed to max the 30 stacks depending on your build but you do get straight up 20% crit chance and crits do quite a lot of damage when paired with dd

[near wyvern]

And flurry nexus battery void is better than Scrier's transfer peril void

+24% bonus damage all the time > +30% bonus damage at times

If you take both you can potentially reach +50%

But it's a bit of a meh

[hot zephyr]

Rofl. Definitely gotta be wary. I paired with a Rashad for dealing with armoured targets. I'm still kind of getting used to an axe tho. Any tips? back when I last played axes were pretty bad, especially the rashad. So I have little experience. Any tips that aren't just standard things to know?

[near wyvern]

Because constant and predictable performance is just better

[limber tartan]

Yea probably but i prefer scrier's and dd for the movement speed i can get, toughness regen and the fact that i get discount executioner's stance

[near wyvern]

Try DS4. Works wonders. If you need to control enemies just give them a poke by the special.

But if you truly want to go with Rashad the special is a bait

Your push attacks stagger as much but also cleave

[hot zephyr]

I haven't found myself a decent DS4 yet, but it's on the shopping list

[near wyvern]

And comes out faster

[glossy ember]

i love blitz cancelling surge rmb with a vet on my team and seeing his bullets not reach elites in time

[near wyvern]

That's nasty. But then here is me laughing hard when a vet tries to go for headshots on targets I am about to trauma...

[glossy ember]

it'sfunnier when it's a plasma vet

[near wyvern]

And laughing at thammer zealots who wiff when I smite a mutant

[glossy ember]

you see the big blue splats on walls

[near wyvern]

Paykers have access to the most BM in the game, change my mind

[hot zephyr]

Any particular rotation or might as well just spam lights?

[glossy ember]

paykers, aquila powers...

[orchid shadow]

How are you doing that again?

[glossy ember]

release rmb, switch to blitz

switch back to staff

[opal pebble]

Bm?

[near wyvern]

Light light push attack, light light push attack is a good combo. Not your optimal DPS but very safe, even against ragers.

[near wyvern]

Bad manners

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it looks like heavy attacks are for caraspace/unyielding but lights appear to deal more damage/stagger against everything else.

[near wyvern]

Yup

It's very simple weapon

[glossy ember]

blame the game not the players. bigfish wants us to nab elite kills as much as possible for delicious warp stacks

[hot zephyr]

The vertical heavy seems to be useful for headshots too

[opal pebble]

Only time someone who said I had bm was my friend another psyker trying to get the 200 brain burst penance when i aciddentally kill steal

[near wyvern]

There are no kill stealing only kill securing. Shit needs to die fast.

[limber tartan]

I once had a dude loose his shit because i killed a monstrocity

[near wyvern]

How could you

[limber tartan]

He then went on a rant after the match

[near wyvern]

Next time consider giving the monstrosity a hug

[limber tartan]

Which i promtly ignored and left

[glossy ember]

bruh

[opal pebble]

Why was he mad?

[limber tartan]

The feelings between the beast of nurgle and me are not mutual

Soo there will be no hugging

[near wyvern]

It has a hole...

[limber tartan]

What

[opal pebble]

It’s a whole mess

[limber tartan]

What are you talking about

[near wyvern]

Nothing

👀

[limber tartan]

I meant the fact that beasts of nurgle canonically have the mentality of puppies and just want to play

[near wyvern]

They see the world through Pyro vision?

[opal pebble]

Don’t think so, they just love to hug regardless

[limber tartan]

I don't know but after a while they become sad that no one wants to play with them or dies and they go into cocoons and transform into rot flies which just want to fuck shit up

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/saltzpyre-eyebrow-raise-vermintide-gif-24052002

[plucky flax]

I would not use axe on psyker because of low attack speed.

On zealot combat axe is incredibly strong.

[hot zephyr]

I agree, but it's more to fill the niche. With Lasgun + Smite I need something that can clean up armoured targets, and the axe does a pretty great job of that, plus it's strong push attack + kinetic deflection means I have a LOT of block potential so I can get out of dodge and reset into a smite stunlock.

[untold widget]

MKIV dueling sword is better at armor than axe imo

[supple skiff]

I dont get that vibe from the beats in game tbh

[limber tartan]

@near wyvern Alright i did some quick tests between dd (15 stacks one because 30 stacks is really unreliable to actually keep up) and warp siphon and with my current build weapons etc, dd gives me more on the expense of having to be more precise with your shots unless you're swinging away

I checked it with my specific gun because duh its my gun im gonna be using it forever soo warp siphon damage is nice and easier to make use of since you don't need to be as precise with it

Now granted it was with out warp rider and scrier's gaze buff

I would most likely use Warp Siphon instead of dd if i wanted a build not focused around hitting weakpoints and crits

[untold widget]

my favorite thing about disrupt destiny is the move speed combined with mettle

you feel like a ballerina of death

[limber tartan]

Movement speed is underrated

It allows you to kite majority of enemies as well as bosses without the slightest risk of being hit

[untold widget]

my gunker build with Kinetic Flayer Scriers Destiny columnus just mulches anything I shoot at (except maybe crushers, which it only one clips)

and the whole time I'm just on ice skates because of Destiny's Mettle

I like combining the names of abilities into stupid amalgamations today apparently

[limber tartan]

That said, scrier's gaze is currently bugged and does not give you as much damage as it says

[untold widget]

Well nothing survives as is, so that's fine with me

[fresh reef]

Just checking, Blazing Spirit really isn't worth using on Voidstrike right? Blast radius too small?

[untold widget]

alpha damage is too big

[fresh reef]

Barring the fact that as an on-crit blessing it's completely eclipsed by surge anyway

[untold widget]

the only thing it'll have a chance to tick on is monstrosities and maybe ogryns

[fresh reef]

In which case you'd want surge anyway

[untold widget]

yeah

[azure bridge]

Blazing spirit do be nice

[untold widget]

it's great on trauma because of the blast radius (especially with smite and true aim rn)

[azure bridge]

Side note I just spent 155k on a pair of pants and am in existential pain

[limber tartan]

That's fine

[untold widget]

White pants are a sign of Beloved's favor, sibling

[fresh reef]

Still better than spending 500k on grey rolls for nothing above 360

[untold widget]

oh 155k isnt white pants

nm

[limber tartan]

To be fair if you win some AM that reward like 80k per run you will recover in 2 games

soo that's not too bad

[azure bridge]

I need to get better at the game before I take on AM with randos

[limber tartan]

More if you're running +30% money on curious

[fresh reef]

Even if you're failing AM games, the percentage of dockets you get for failing is higher too

[limber tartan]

Oh am is the silliest and funniest specifically with randoms

[untold widget]

or take 4 psykers

[azure bridge]

I'm currently running blaze trauma psyker and once I get comfortable with it I'll probably go for AM

[hot zephyr]

Do you have an example build for this? I'm curious about what a DD weakspot/crit build looks like

[limber tartan]

I had a game where i carried the entire team and we lost purely because some dude happened to shoot a poxburster when i was pushing it causing me to fly off the map onto a ledge and then a crusher hit me and i fell and everyone died

[untold widget]

so most games for me, then.

[orchid shadow]

Only way to get better is to just do it. Or you'll end up doing what I did and spend your first 150 games in Malice.

[limber tartan]

Yesterday i had a "Goofy" auric melstorm game with 12 deaths

[azure bridge]

I'm already at 150 games in malice xD

[limber tartan]

Although goofy might be an understatement

We won it btw

[azure bridge]

Or at least 50 I have the medal for it

[untold widget]

to be honest, the first couple of AM runs are insane, and then you get to a point where you're just like "Wait, I can handle this." and then you just do

[limber tartan]

This is the results from the mission with my fully crit dd build

[near wyvern]

With DD buff hunting you just run into race conditions and focus issues, the highlighted target may not be always the one you should kill.

[limber tartan]

I had 6 deaths out of 12 btw

😄

[limber tartan]

Alright but that is entirely skill issue

One that i am complitely free of

[azure bridge]

Think I should modify the blaze trauma build for bubble shield instead of shreik if I'm heading into AM?

[untold widget]

can you avoid blowing up without shriek?

[limber tartan]

Yes

[azure bridge]

yes

[untold widget]

then yes

[azure bridge]

but shreik spreads soulfire

[limber tartan]

@hot zephyr This is my current build that i am running

[supple skiff]

you can also un peril with battle meditation

[azure bridge]

guessing the soulfire stacks from shreik are outweighed by the bublbes survivability boost?

[untold widget]

my current blaze trauma build runs Smite, shield (stun or bubble depending on the level of mouth breathing my team is) and EP with True Aim and the 30% quell speed talent north of warp siphon I can't remember rn

[limber tartan]

And weapons

[supple skiff]

but now that certain abilities wont cast after 100 but you still peril its hard to do

[fresh reef]

Depends on your playstyle really

[supple skiff]

use to unperil with my void all the time

[untold widget]

smite gives guaranteed soul blaze with my trauma staff via true aim

[limber tartan]

Not blowing up is fun

[untold widget]

shriek wouldn't apply enough additional stacks of soul blaze to outweigh the benefits of shield for the team

because its a team game at the end of the day

[azure bridge]

fair

[limber tartan]

I had a game on the same day as the one with 12 deaths where i also carried after everyone died and was about to go get them after minutes of soloing through whatever bullshit the game threw at me and then blew my self up with perils

[azure bridge]

and bubble is SUPER good at keeping the team alive

[limber tartan]

That was after i killed everyone

[cloud heron]

It spreads soulblaze for you to regain warp stacks faster, which lets you vent again faster

[untold widget]

I don't run warp siphon

[fresh reef]

Not necessarily. Shriek can save you and your team in ways that bubble can't. For example, hear a Trapper about to shoot you? Press F at her to buy yourself more time

And it doesn't matter if she's shot it or not btw. I've literally had the net png appear on my screen for a frame as she got staggered, and it disappeared

Didn't record this unfortunately as it was mid-clutch

[untold widget]

trapper about to shoot you? shield

done

[azure bridge]

thats a good point, but trapper also gets its projectile nullified by shield

[limber tartan]

I would just shoot the guy

[azure bridge]

Also nergal plague beast gets its vomit attack trivialized by bubble shield

[fresh reef]

Like entirely? Even if you're both in the shield?

[azure bridge]

yeah

[untold widget]

well I don't usually run dome shield unless I know I'm about to do carnival

[azure bridge]

not sure why

[untold widget]

i run stun shield mostly

[fresh reef]

Huh. Neat

[azure bridge]

but i think it clipps the top of the shield

[limber tartan]

Wouldn't be much of a good shield if it didn't block projectiles

[glossy ember]

maybe i ought to run psykenetic aura as well.....

[azure bridge]

I think shreik's more hidden power is that by spreading soulfire stuff dies faster

[ornate hamlet]

Praise be to him on the throne!

[untold widget]

how do you get that screenshot of the whole build tree?

[limber tartan]

Yea its really usefull for decreasing scrier's colldown

[fresh reef]

Gameslantern build editor

Alternatively you can nab the smaller skill trees mod

[cloud heron]

Vent is just so good at letting you keep attacking

especially with the soulblaze/warp siphon synergy

[limber tartan]

Im probably gonna release my build and guide to it once i perfect it and be good enough with my aim for people to go "oh shit, i cant do that"

[azure bridge]

I agree, which is why i'm torn for what will ultimately be more useful

If I could have both I would but being forced to make a hard choice is the nature of this decision

[cloud heron]

Like I definitely appreciate shields when they're there, but I've almost never felt like I needed one

either as psyker or another class

[glossy ember]

thats one issue ive been having with scrier when on cd when shit really gets hectic but im starting to really be strained on points...

[limber tartan]

@wild fulcrum the 5% decreese is mostly just rounded up to a little over 1 second

Soo if there is a group of elites of specialists you can get your scrier's or any ability infact REALLY damn fast

Oh and other people's abilities as well

[azure bridge]

even in AM?

[limber tartan]

I used to run the stun shield beacuse i thought it was underrated compared to the bubble, this was right after patch 14 hit

But then i thought to my self "Hmm what if i just shot them dead instead of simply blocking their shots and not killing them"

[azure bridge]

if that's the case, is there an argument to be made that taking the shield promotes bad play and might ultimamtely lead to a wipe?

[cerulean lily]

Anyone have a good shield or bubble build they would like to share?

[limber tartan]

I have learned that if a dude is dead then he can't hit or shoot you

[cerulean lily]

Interested in making the switch from shriek

[quasi junco]

need citation

[azure bridge]

I have the blaze trauma build that basically just goes through the shield node instead of shreik node, I've tested it alongside shriek over a couple of missions and it seems to hold up

I can recreate it if you like

just gotta figure out how to use the build editor

[limber tartan]

Death is the best crowd control

[quasi junco]

What is your blitz ability?

[cerulean lily]

@azure bridge that would be awesome if you could

[limber tartan]

Its not that hard to figure out, you can make your builds private if you don't want people to see them untill they're ready

Or some other shit

[glossy ember]

Not really, you can fit both niches of dealing with ranged just in different manner. One instantly kills and add crit to evade shots, the other protects the whole team

[quasi junco]

not taking kinetic resonance ?

pop shield and now you can go ham with BB

[azure bridge]

nah cooldown reduction is better I feel and i like having the damage reduction talent thats based on peril

[untold widget]

here's my soul blaze trauma build

[azure bridge]

i take bb specifically to handle snipers

and bombers who run away

[glossy ember]

i'd have to give up malefic momentum or the 20% movement speed from scrier ugh tough choice

to get psykenetic aura

[azure bridge]

i'm still working on what wroks best for me as far as the keystone configuration works i can't decide if the toughness regen is better than the peril reduction or not

[cerulean lily]

@azure bridge which staff do you run?

[azure bridge]

Trauma staff

with a blessing called blazing spirit

crits set baddies on fire

[untold widget]

you regen toughness as you quell, which can happen as you need

[quasi junco]

i like the peril reduction, so I can BB for longer, and spam circles for longer

[azure bridge]

Yeah, i'm kinda leaning to that myself, as i can't notice a difference in survivability with the peril generation one

where you get 30% toughness on warp charge acquisition

[glossy ember]

thing is when you're generating peril you're probably not in need of toughness

[azure bridge]

G money, basically this set up works by making heavy use of the aoe circle from trauma staff to cc, damage and set on fire anything you dont like

[glossy ember]

when you're quelling however probably a good moment to get toughness, is my experience

[azure bridge]

its a great sit down and shut up button for big armored enemies

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma without creeping flame

[azure bridge]

thats a good point

[cerulean lily]

@azure bridge that’s great thanks. I’ve been voidstrike champ forever and I still like it…but wanna change it up for the higher difficulties

[quasi junco]

I like CF, but I can also see why so many like the shield. The carnival map has 10 billion gunners lol

[plucky flax]

I used blaze trauma in carnival without shield.

[quasi junco]

It’s why I run deflector on my force sword. My own little shield

[plucky flax]

Veri cool. Although there was a random psyker with shield actually.

[azure bridge]

yeah thats the crux of my decision i'm trying to make, shriek with creeping flame is great, but so is bubble

[crimson remnant]

lets see if hadron is in a good mood today

[cloud heron]

The entrance in the finale is safe enough from gunners. Everywhere else they can be dealt with by just blowing them up fast enough

[quasi junco]

Popping VS and machine gunning down gunners with BB works too. Need that resonance node tho

[azure bridge]

while I am not against new things, from the people i've asked, I have been given the impression that BB scaled very poorly as you went up

[quasi junco]

Yep that’s my fav spot. My only build with shield is my Purgatus/smite setup

[azure bridge]

can it pull some weight in higher difficulties with resonance?

[quasi junco]

I only play damnation. Not auric tho.

[crimson remnant]

auric is where the fun begins.

[quasi junco]

If you have a vet with godlike aim you might find no need to use BB much

[quasi junco]

lol I’ve done Auric heresy a few times. I’m off next week maybe I’ll try it out some more

[cloud heron]

BB kills just fine on damnation. It's just not meant to be your primary weapon

[azure bridge]

well thats good to hear, i only ever use it to deal with snipers, bombers and occasionally dogs

the rest get the trauma staff

I was taking kinetic flayer for that build at one point as well

but ended up switching it out after I learned it will rarely proc on a staff heavy build because you stay at high peril for so long

[cerulean lily]

@azure bridge what perks do you run on your trauma staff? Flak and maniac?

[azure bridge]

so unfortunately i can't pull the game up to show you a picture atm, but the staff I got rolled with 25% flak and 20% unyielding

its got 80% blast but thats its only 80%

as for blessings, it obviously has blazing spirit, but I'm tyring to find the blessing that incraeses crit chance based on peril

[limber tartan]

Man a lot of people just join am without the knowledge and skill

[plucky flax]

That's me.

[limber tartan]

People thought they could just wait out on am, nah they're gonna just keep comming we gotta go

[azure bridge]

I might even have it had i not spent 155k on a pair of pants lol

[limber tartan]

And then they died

Me included

[plucky flax]

[coarse bane]

Is surge staff even usable with that new change?

[ionic sorrel]

This happened to me.

[azure bridge]

not until they fix it targeting limbs for damage

at least I don't feel it is

[near wyvern]

It is if you go +Unarmoured +Flak, warp nexus and take perfect timing as well as warp siphon up to battery, avoid dropping stacks. Malefic Momentum is also a good one to take if you melee trash.

It's viable but not amazing.

But hotfix is on the way

[coarse bane]

That's a fucking hell of a lot to invest just to make it ok.

[near wyvern]

Yes

[azure bridge]

it is, which is why i'm hoping the hotfix fixes it

i liked its single target damage a lot, though i did not know about the EP bug and I never ran EP to encounter it

[quasi junco]

What did they do to surge staff? An unintended nerf or bug?

[azure bridge]

unintended interaction as best as I can tell

they wanted to liven up the death animations from it

but it seems that in doing so they made it target limbs for damage as well

[quasi junco]

lol

[azure bridge]

basically its supposed to choose randomly for which body part explodes on death, head, lilmbs, body

but the code also directs damage to that section too

so the staff can headshot, but also body shot or limb shot

[lime creek]

any tips on playingwith voidstrike, smite and warp siphon?

[azure bridge]

line people up and get headshots

also buble shield helps bc charging the staff makes you slow

[ionic sorrel]

Anyone else playing around with dagger Psyker?

[lime creek]

any tips for using smite with warp siphon? and thanks for the voidstrike tip

[azure bridge]

what interaction between smite and warp siphon are you looking to take advantage of?

[lime creek]

whatever gets the msot out of it

[crude cape]

cant decide which second blessing on dueling sword i like after uncanny. Reposte and precog both feel good. rampage sounds good but i feel like it has a hard time triggering. is it just me or its kind of hard to hit 3 targets with the mk V dueling lights?

[azure bridge]

so, smite is a great, dare i say ultimate, cc but it can't kill very well

and generating warp charges either comes from you and your teammates getting kills with the 4% talent or killing specials or 10% chance on killing enemies that are on soulfire

[supple skiff]

mission drop

[azure bridge]

or am I talking about the wrong talent, one minute

[supple skiff]

didnt know you could get anything approaching good from them

[azure bridge]

no i'm not whew

[near wyvern]

Example build in Atheneum for this

Enemies in line, void, enemies and all chaos around you, find a corner and smite

Bring Deimos to one shot mutants

Don't sleep on smite LMB, give those dogs a quick tap of zap

[supple skiff]

does enhanced blitz improve BB dmg?

[near wyvern]

Whenever you hear bursters ticking stop voiding and use smite RMB

[near wyvern]

Mission modifier no

[proven stirrup]

Man what an odd time for the servers to shit the bed for me

[supple skiff]

nice

[proven stirrup]

Don't normally have any connectivity issues

[azure bridge]

how does this work, do they go into a stun animation even from LMB?

[near wyvern]

Enhanced blitz gives peril reduction for blitzes

[iron flame]

I am guessing this one is bad ?

[azure bridge]

I like the charge rate, but blast radiius is way too small for me

[iron flame]

since low blast radius

[coarse bane]

Man is it lag or is voidstrike charged ball just fucking weird with it's hits?

[near wyvern]

https://streamable.com/dk2roj

[supple skiff]

nope that thing is great

[vestal fulcrum]

You don’t want low Blast Radius, really

[iron flame]

hmm yea figured. that is the case. Rip me. guess i will stick with voidstrike build fo rnow

[azure bridge]

Tyvm

[near wyvern]

Audio is effed up cause I had another video playing on the background

[umbral helm]

the few times I've brought assail into a mission with it, it's seemed to also add a couple charges

so 12 instead of just 10

[azure bridge]

I've seen you giving out a lot of good advice here when asked so I've got a question of my own, which do you prefer to see in an AM on a psyker, venting shreik or Bubble shield?

[near wyvern]

Whatever you can carry with when everyone else goes down

And what the team needs

If the team is lacking horde damage you bring horde damage

If the team is lacking elite / specialist clear you bring that

If the team is lacking CC you being CC

If the team is lacking monstrosity damage you bring monstrosity damage (mostly as your melee)

[azure bridge]

Play to cover weaknesses then, and probably go and play other classes or research other class builds to know at a glance what everyone's bringing

[near wyvern]

If you have everything in check you bring whatever

[near wyvern]

Get loadout monitor

Glancing ally weapons gives enough information

[glossy ember]

the one you're best with

[near wyvern]

Vets always do good monstrosity damage as long as they don't have a revolver. If they have a revolver they are geared to clear all elites and specials.

Zealots with thammers deal all monstrosity damage your team needs but you gotta be ready to protect that president

Zealots bringing a flamer or any melee other than knife is horde damage

Ogryns with cleaver or a stubber are horde damage

Ogryns with batons, shovels or shields are elite damage, monstrosity damage and CC

Ogryns with kickback or rumbler deal with everything near them

Payker weapons and ults you should know

So with that list you should be good to go, no need to dive into the talent trees

[azure bridge]

Yes i feel comfortable about my psyker knowledge at this point

[near wyvern]

Ans if you do want to then you should have a pre-made

[azure bridge]

sounds like I need to use the build loadouts in game and create a few different blaze trauma builds that I can swap to to shore up team weaknesses

[supple skiff]

see folks are trying to use malestorms to level lol

[azure bridge]

and then use them based on team comp

[supple skiff]

had a 18 and 24 in one

[hot zephyr]

Big necro here, but why Mind In Motion over Malific Momentum? Do you actively quell a lot? I also see you aren't taking Enfeeble for the damage boost to stunned enemies?

[fluid knot]

Not always true, if they bring a Crusher they can solo basically all the monsters with little issue. Super good compliment to Revolver

The only one thats annoying is slug, an slug can be killed with Revvy + Fire nades pretty easy

Or alternatively, barrels

Oh wait Vets, i misread

My B

[limber tartan]

Because i run smite not to hold shit in place constantly but to zap everyone once go in to do some damage and zap again

And smitedoes not do a lot of damage in the first place

[eager horizon]

What about knife zealots?

[ornate hamlet]

Doesn't sound like me

[hot zephyr]

Fair but 10% damage for your team is a HUGE deal against crusher/bulwark packs imo.

[ornate hamlet]

I'm out of health by then

[near wyvern]

Yes they can solo if they don't have 5 mutants running after their ass and 2 dogs with 3 bombers

That's why I said you gotta protect that President

And let them do their thing

[azure bridge]

so happy i'm a psyker, i don't use ammo

[orchid shadow]

Ooof, trying to find keys that I'm comfortable with for Surge cancel is a pain.

[ornate hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1119630083611705566/1160630558565609482/ezgif.com-gif-maker57.gif?ex=65355c70&is=6522e770&hm=1602f3c7f6e5b06328cc977a403a2bd0f7c3b486646bc320fcf4fa34fb335309&

gun

[glossy ember]

I personally use 2 for staff 4 for blitz

[fluid knot]

Mutants fuck over any class in a clutch situation :/ If only other stuff couldnt still hit you when you was grabbed

[glossy ember]

but you can try mouse buttons

[near wyvern]

Elite, special and monstrosity damage and mobility to engage shooters

[ornate hamlet]

I use a revolver because all the ammo pickups and specialist kills revolve around me

[near wyvern]

If you really want to abuse it, make a macro and be done with it

[uneven compass]

I find Q for the button that switches between melee and ranged then if you have side mouse buttons that's good for your smite/assail/BB

[near wyvern]

I mean even I can solo a monstrosity, it just takes quite a lot of more time than a thammer zealot

[wary inlet]

Did the brain burst cast time get sped up or should I get myself admitted?

[near wyvern]

There is nothing greater than seeing a bonk be prepared and then a random poxie coming in to take the hit

[fluid knot]

Of course, thats a given tho, very little else, if anything can compete with that damage output

[near wyvern]

It did not, but they fixed RMB not working with speed boosts

[fluid knot]

PSword is pretty rapid, but fuck i hate it so much

[eager horizon]

Neat! I was expecting a meme answer but this is quite informative.

[orchid shadow]

I'm in for a world of mistakes on my next run. =/ My side mouse buttons are set to Quell and Ping

[orchid shadow]

Any macro software you'd recommend?

[ornate hamlet]

Autohotkey

[summer prairie]

your mouse software

[orchid shadow]

I looked at that and my dumb animator brain froze and my eyes glazed over.

[near wyvern]

As Syllogism said, your mouse software is the best one you can have

[ornate hamlet]

That's any programming language, I guess

You can probably find some tutorials online that explain things in better detail

[azure bridge]

Does psychic vampire work for your own kills if you don't have coherency?

[ornate hamlet]

I tried to start it by just copy-pasting stuff people did online and it sucked to learn anything

You always have coherency

It's why the icon goes to 1 stack when you're alone instead of going away

[azure bridge]

oh ok

that sounds a lot better than the 10% chance on soulfire debuffed enemy kill personally

4% flat chance to get warpcharges on basically any kills

[ornate hamlet]

Depends on how your build is

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[ornate hamlet]

People using purgatus benefit a lot from it because they have a staff that applies it

[azure bridge]

I'll rephrase, it means that kills my teammates make while we're in coherency will give me warpcharges for basically free

[quasi junco]

whats the best blessings perks for purgatus?

[plucky flax]

I use vampire with blaze trauma.

The 10% is no where near as good.

[azure bridge]

I was torn which to use for blaze trauma

now I am less so

[plucky flax]

Even with purga I use vampire.

Although I rarely play purga these days.

[twilit comet]

Is surge staff feeling super useless lately? I wasn't using it when it was getting the empowerd psionics buff, but pre PAtch 13 it seemed solid. Now it feels completely useless and eclipsed by smite entirely

[iron flame]

How does assail works ? First time trying them out but eh ... not deleting tons of elites and specials enemies like i see other assil users play

[summer prairie]

it's kind of hard to measure unless you really pay attention over many runs

and don't just take your first impression

[autumn whale]

they bugged it, the staff is hitting random limbs instead of doing the correct damage

so you could do any damage inbetween like 750 to like 5

[twilit comet]

that explains it 🙂

[autumn whale]

they confirmed it's getting fixed next hotfix

[umbral helm]

the 4% is just more consistent because it's anything, so during a horde it has higher chances of proccing. but, if for whatever reason you find yourself in a lobby full of purgatus psykers, give the soulblaze one a whirl.

[autumn whale]

keep warp nexus, there should also be a blessing that brings down charge time that you can use to replace terrifying barrage

[near wyvern]

The 4% chance seems low until you hit the hordes in higher difficulties, then you will just be swimming in stacks.

[glossy ember]

smh.....

[near wyvern]

And in between there is usually enough elites and specials to keep you stacked.

[stuck bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

some of u mfers be like that

[autumn whale]

dies of cringe

[quasi junco]

yep, warp flurry, too bad its lvl 1, but I can always upgrade it later

[glossy ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1143510801991348224/1165966301315997776/crumple.gif?ex=6548c5bc&is=653650bc&hm=24a78bc83033d2258b0564bebb52398cc623f08a55f18d13285e2e76367d34b9&

[autumn whale]

it'll do till you find the upgraded versions for it

[stuck bridge]

that was sloppy

[eager horizon]

I am hoping to hop back into darktide this weekend. Ya'll any advice for a fledgling psyker? I normally main Ogryn and Zealot but my psyker is nonexistent.

[umbral helm]

blow up their pancakes with your mind

[near wyvern]

Don't blow up

If you want easy mode take smite, creeping flames and with warp siphon keystone with inner tranquility and warp battery.

Your other weapons don't matter.

[ornate hamlet]

I just noticed

Surge has a lower crit modifier for flak on the shock

[eager horizon]

How far will that take a low level psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

Like

Okay

[pseudo basin]

What options does a psyker have besides brain burst to use on the shield guys and the ogre maul guys?

[burnt mulch]

why blow up their pancakes when you can steal them

[ornate hamlet]

Dueling sword, force sword and revolver are 3 good options

[umbral helm]

send a message, it's not about the money pancakes

[near wyvern]

For a low level psyker you just take assails, gun, any melee and go to town to have fun.

[ornate hamlet]

Or specifically, dueling sword and force sword with uncanny strike

Because otherwise you'll spend two years doing anything to crushers

[near wyvern]

Well yes, uncanny strike is meta

[ornate hamlet]

Also, my son Pygex

Am I benefitting from putting unyielding in surge?

[eager horizon]

Will that take me to Heresy or should I grind out on malice?

[near wyvern]

Dependant on player skills. I can clear highest difficulty missions constantly with Columnus Auto Infantry gun, Knife, Assails and Creeping Flames.

[pseudo basin]

What does the dueling sword special do? Is it about stagger, or does it go through armor? What's it for

[supple skiff]

love those missions where you carry hard all game, but the second miss a net dodge or block a houndits GG cause your teamates are fucking useless

[near wyvern]

@eager horizon once you reach high enough level to get Creeping Flames and the quell speed increase, switch to smite and Creeping Flames and that build will carry you through anything

[eager horizon]

Also, I am curious, is anyone currently working on a psyker guide?

[supple skiff]

score screen

[near wyvern]

Take wildfire and perilous combustion on your way there

[supple skiff]

all 3 are cross play

[eager horizon]

Aye, aye!

[supple skiff]

fucking christ

[near wyvern]

Me, Atheneum. Might be a bit more than what you are currently asking for. Check pins here.

[iron flame]

Is assail weak now or am i doing something wrong ? I am like barely getting any kills

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-10-score-gif-7911501

[near wyvern]

It's not any weaker than before, you just get less of them. Utilize the fact that damage ticks are calculated based on current buffs, so throw 2-3 and switch to a weapon with good blessings & perks, this is called weaving with Assail.

[west fjord]

Swap both perks to maniac and unyeilding right? damage wise it hits the breakpoints to 1 shot for mutant. unstable seems to work really nice inbetween spamming assail

[eager horizon]

Oooh, nice!

[iron flame]

Guess i am playing it wrong then lol

[fading iris]

We all are, ++ but the Emperor Protects ++

[supple skiff]

they really need to let us disable cross play

[near wyvern]

Blessings like opening salvo, sustained fire (gotta time your shots with shards), deadly accurate, uncanny strike, unstable power, slaughterer, dumdum, all are good for weaving.

[fresh reef]

This is entirely too relatable

[near wyvern]

Things that require you to do hit chains, aim down sights etc are not that good for weaves

[iron flame]

Bleh, i will stick with brainburst or smite

[near wyvern]

That is an option as well

[plucky flax]

Rip handcannon assail in 13 and 14.

[near wyvern]

I still welcome smite True Aim stacking for my hand cannon in 15

[plucky flax]

Too much swapping.

[feral seal]

Did my first successful auric maelstrom with all the nurgles blessing and weak monster goodies 85k richer

[plucky flax]

Do you left click for tru aim stacks?

[near wyvern]

@glossy ember I think you had something to say about a lotta swapping

[plucky flax]

Mate I play blaze trauma and hold staff out for 90% of the game.

Low rpm gaming.

[glossy ember]

I also technically hold out staff for 90% of the game

[near wyvern]

Smite + Soulblaze talents is the pinnacle of low rpm gaming. It gets lower in RPM the higher the difficulty goes. Damnation AM sample:
https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

[near wyvern]

But you do swap a lot

There and back again

[glossy ember]

that i do sir https://youtu.be/mxPGYtWQ77U

[limpid cypress]

I barely switch with my current build. Voidstrike staff solves most problems, and smite solves the rest

[glossy ember]

But well i find it fun

and it's effective

[near wyvern]

Can't argue with that

[glossy ember]

i doubt i'd manage to kill elites as fast without

[vestal fulcrum]

Huh, so for Susfire to work you need to swap off of your ranged after 2 shots and fire 2 assails? Do I get that right?

[steel flame]

Ew sus fire

[near wyvern]

For sustained fire to work you gotta fire once before your shards start to hit, then keep firing now and then two more times to keep it up, it's a bit sweatier to make to work rather than opening salvo which gives the +20 damage as long as you just don't fire a shot

Except on void staff

Where it is effective for first 3 hits

So you can just pull out void with sustained fire for +20% damage and keep voiding at the same time

[vestal fulcrum]

[steel flame]

How about we ask them to make the blessing.relevent to stables before we break our back for 12% more damage on like 2 shots

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s sickening to think about min-maxing so hard

[near wyvern]

Assail + Transfer Peril Sustained Fire could actually work

[plucky flax]

I really like sustain fire on columbus infantry autogun.

[near wyvern]

Cause you quell on assail weakspot hits

[feral seal]

Smite only has one weakness..

[steel flame]

It's time to stop

[near wyvern]

Sustained fire is for Agripinaa

[feral seal]

Nurgle blessing lol

[near wyvern]

Columnus is Dumdum + Fire Frenzy

[glossy ember]

surge staff yeah? you get to always 4 shot reapers and bulwarks, and can 1 crit + 2 shot them.

[plucky flax]

I don't use the agri columbus is just the best.

[feral seal]

Is surge fixed yet?

[serene cloud]

50% damage you say in the description ? Is that the actual amount of damage we've lost with the last patch ?

[summer prairie]

with deathspitter you do a bit less damage but can cleave

[near wyvern]

No

[feral seal]

[near wyvern]

Columbus has best DPS yeah if you just get close

[glossy ember]

well you got 4 chances of hitting limbs where your damage is halved

1 chance for head

1 for torso

iirc

[plucky flax]

I use it on zealot and only to take out specials.

I don't spam it enough to take use of deathspitter/firefrenzy.

I use my melee 95% the time on zealot.

[glossy ember]

your ttk on shotgunner is way more since they don't die in one hit

[maiden wolf]

What's the play here? I'm thinking shred and uncanny strike, but I want to maximize my chances at getting one as my final blessing so I can switch unarmored to something?

[glossy ember]

for ex

[serene cloud]

Well, obviously ^^ thank you

[glossy ember]

but it's getting hotfixed next week

so np

well

Next week (tm)

[near wyvern]

[fading iris]

soon™

[uneven compass]

I hope with the surge fix they just get rid of limb damage. I really hate having to spend 2 skill points getting true aim when I could use them elsewhere

[glossy ember]

why would you get true aim with surge staff, not reliable anyway

[maiden wolf]

does anyone know if upgrading the blessing will up the chances of a T4 as the final roll? Or would it be fine to leave it as is and take the 50/50 chance of getting the blessing I want?

[uneven compass]

I dunno, it seems to build up stacks super fast from what I've experienced

[digital narwhal]

Why is that, even doing the most basic shit, doing things always looks so cool with the Combat Knife?

[fresh reef]

Pair it with Smite

[digital narwhal]

The exagerrated swagger of a Gun Psyker.

[glossy ember]

block cancel h1 to have even more running flashiness

[fresh reef]

Now you can reliably deal pre patch 15 noncrit torso damage

[glossy ember]

lots of lmb?

[feral seal]

Is h1/special/repeat more dps than h1/h2/repeat for ds4?

[summer prairie]

no

[feral seal]

Good

[summer prairie]

but it's not much worse

special+h1 is more dps than h1/h2 on combat knife though

[pseudo basin]

Is the palpatine lightning mostly supposed to just help your teammates?

[idle dagger]

Basically, very little damage for a wide spread stun

[pseudo basin]

Sounds like a horrible choice for pub games then lol

[idle dagger]

I thought the same but surprisingly it's was ok(?)

I do get people that are oblivious and refuse to kill specials but it depends on your luck I guess

I REALLY recommend it for "Scab only" Malestroms, very useful

[fresh reef]

Nah, saving yourself and your team from the 8 ragers and 4 Crushers that spawned out of thin air is extremely nice to have

Especially with how inept the level 30-40 crowd can be at times

[idle dagger]

Only downside would be the peril generation. I usualy run the Dome but Venting Shriek has been a treat so far

[hot zephyr]

Debating dropping Maniac off this for Unyielding or Caraspace. Thoughts? A lot of the maniac targets aren't really things I kill with my melee where as the caraspace or unyielding are things I think I rather regularing hit with it

[unborn flicker]

You might be American, but you handle a knife, like a brit

[digital narwhal]

I'm not the American

Funnily enough, I am British

[unborn flicker]

That explains it

[digital narwhal]

I'm the quieter voice in the clip

[unborn flicker]

Apologies, it’s hard to tell

[digital narwhal]

It is, yeah

[azure bridge]

how important is wildfire to a blaze trauma build?

[fading iris]

Make them use it

[limber tartan]

Definitely sucks

[uneven compass]

I wish they'd put in a purpose for grabbing them. Last time I grabbed one was by accident and I disintegrated it so fast because I didn't want the team to see i grabbed it

[limber tartan]

Specially since running anti grims perks is not worth if you're not going for grims specifically

[orchid shadow]

Most of the time I don't find it so bad, I just never pick it up myself in Damnation. I find the worst offenders never read the team and still pick it up when the team is clearly struggling.

[limber tartan]

And even then the rewards for getting them are not soo great

[ornate hamlet]

Grimoires also give some money

Depending on the damnation mission, it's not even a problem

[limber tartan]

Highest grim bonuses i saw was like 12k but even soo when you're getting 12k from a side objective then you're probably getting at least 30k from completing your mission

[ornate hamlet]

It's not as much of a risk as it seems a lot of times

Unless you're mauled by flamers, bombers and find yourself in an open area with gunners spread on every corner, grimoires aren't really that bad

[glossy ember]

i wouldnt bother with pugs tbh

[eager mantle]

So just a casual Tuesday for the director

[cloud heron]

did poxbursters get quieter lately?

[orchid shadow]

That's where all the madness and fun is. 😛

[fading iris]

I just had to hear an Ogryn and Veteran conversation about Ogryn having a zealot as a pet

[half iron]

you could’ve hit a barrel and cliff combo near one of them smh my head

[orchid shadow]

Go on...

[wet cloak]

Is the psyker stupid? Why doesn't he just tape the purgatus and voidstrike staff together?

[half iron]

i would tape boltpistols on every assail shard. maybe then i would actually have fun using them

[wet cloak]

I would just tape grenades to them

[orchid shadow]

Is Duct tape lore accurate? I'd love a goddamn flashlight on my staff for Lights out

[vale nacelle]

Tape a laser sight to surge staff so it can properly target. Lmao.

[limber tartan]

Pretty sure you can actually do that with a mod

But im not sure, i know you can slap a laser onto a laspistol and it makes it soo its pinpoint accurate

At least in psykanium

Though i had to remove the mod because it caused me random crashes and framerate issues

[wet cloak]

Stuff breaks so much in 40k and they never get replacements so I imagine they have all kinds of adhesives

[orchid shadow]

So Fatshark constantly breaking things is lore accurate then. Nice.

[limber tartan]

Also the current shotgun skin in the veteran category in the shop is quite literally ducktaped together

[wet cloak]

Yes

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/enithiran-rajinikanth-trending-enthiran-robot-gif-10519267417479755267

[eternal pike]

You would think the hotfix would do something for surge, guess not

[half iron]

i never have to do maintenance for my chain weapons

[wet cloak]

That's because chain weapons are blessed by the omnissiah.

[fading iris]

It did, created a place to put the reply that they're working on it

[eternal pike]

[night crater]

Wait, have psykers always been able to use chainswords?

[ornate hamlet]

yEP

[night crater]

Huh

[quasi junco]

the stat rolls lol

[half iron]

force eviscerator when🥺

[wet cloak]

The knife is willing, but...

[quasi junco]

lol I never knew VS was a frontal cone, I thought it was a 360 AoE

....

[bright ether]

Man that hurts

[fading iris]

Maximum "you will have to find the gaps in their armor"

[bright ether]

Like stabbing with a sewing needle accurate

[turbid hemlock]

is another hotfix coming to re-fix the surge staff ?

[bright ether]

Supposedly

Catfish commented on the psyker bug report saying it was being processed

Now if that means we go back to not having random limb targeting which reduces damage...? Idk. Lol. They might just adjust it a bit and call it a day

[feral seal]

When 3 lesser monsters spawn back to back but they are all beast of nurgles and you have bubble and ds4

Silly hitbox moment

[lunar gyro]

Idk if I'm the only one, but stuff not popping from smite anymore has actually ruined the blitz for me. It feels so bland now.

[idle bay]

Yay! Now let's brick it! Wish me a Brick siblings!

[uneven compass]

The times when it was used with EP and you'd get like 5-6 seconds of a horde exploding was glorious

[idle bay]

If only Brunt give me a single 380 surge staff. 1000 hours and ZERO 380 Surge staffs

[lunar gyro]

This was the main thing I wanted to do when on psyker

Now I'm just back to purgatus + brain burst that I ran to death before patch 13

[azure bridge]

out of curiosity, can you do solo runs yet? 1 player with 3 bots?

[stone narwhal]

Nope.

[azure bridge]

it must be a mod i keep seeing then

some youtubers I see with 3 bots and 1 player or just 1 player

[small whale]

it mod

[limber tartan]

You can go with 2 players, let the bots and the other dude die (has to be aware and signed an agreement beforehand).

[ornate hamlet]

Gamers, I caught myself thinking

[small whale]

solo play mod

[ornate hamlet]

Yes, that's a problem

[plucky flax]

You can either play solo with default bots for rewards, or solo just with yourself in offline mode.

[limber tartan]

There's what now

[ornate hamlet]

Anyway, isn't it a bit bad that psyker only has the crit talent to regen toughness outside of warp stuff?

Dueling sword is an exclusive weapon and it doesn't benefit from 3/4 of the toughness stuff psyker has at the top

[small whale]

disrupt destiny gives toughness

[limber tartan]

A lot of perks give toughness, you've got regen on peril generated, regen on peril quelled, 10% to regen tougness on a kill, there is a lot of it

Probably missing a few too

[ornate hamlet]

Well, "peril generated" sounds a bit not "outside of warp stuff"

Disrupt destiny unfortunately is very finnicky and getting a percentage on top of its RNG is something I wouldn't depend on

You can technically use peril generated and peril quelled with scrier's gaze, but the buildup is so gradual that it doesn't feel worth it

[digital narwhal]

Warp Expenditure is kinda ass imo

We generate Peril much slower than we Quell it, and yet it's got a smaller Toughness value per 10% Peril than Quietude

[limber tartan]

You can't have everything

[digital narwhal]

It'd feel better if it was 5% Toughness per 10% Peril Generated

Make it the direct antithesis of Quietude

[limber tartan]

Also i made an error about the 10% to regen toughness on kill its quell peril not regen toughness

Still if you quell and have got the other perk it indirectly will regen your toughness

[azure bridge]

you're talking about the solo mod?

[plucky flax]

Solo mod is offline solo (no rewards)

Many more tries is playing online in solo private game and get rewards.

[azure bridge]

I'm a bit confused, how does one play solo online then?

[ornate hamlet]

The other classes can have everything, it seems

Vet gets 10% on elite/specialist and 20% over time from one node alone

Then they can get another that gives them a blanket increase to all toughness regenerated

[plucky flax]

Use a mod called many more tries. It allows you to start your own private game without a party.

[ornate hamlet]

And they get iron will if they so wish

And when shit hits the fan, they have a toughness shout

[thorn cedar]

I feel like getting 50% of your Toughness from 0-100 Perils and then 50% again for going from 100-0 would be kinda too stronk. Maybe if the nodes were exclusionary

[ornate hamlet]

And all of those work on any melee weapon

[azure bridge]

Ahh ty for the clarification

[ornate hamlet]

Well, the balance gets different depending on weapons

The peril buildup one is actually pretty decent on force sword, and the quell counterpart is very useful for players using staves all day

And then warp kill just turns hordes into toughness farming

Zealot, on the other hand, gets a radically better performance on crit by having stuff like toughness on dodge, toughness DR on crit, shield of contempt, EWEW, toughness on heavy attack kills, toughness this, toughness that

[hot zephyr]

So I just tested this build out in a run, I actually really like it. The only change I feel I want for is to add Enfeeble for horde stunlock because of my weapon picks.

I really like it, especially all the flat toughness. It feels a lot more durable than my Warp Siphon build especially with tough/tough/stam curios. One particular part of the run I enjoyed is my teammates were all cowering from a reaper pack, and I just popped SG and peek the corner and preceded to absolutely curb-stomp the reaper pack. Very very high burst damage on this build.

[ornate hamlet]

It's not that melee psyker is impossible, it's just that force swords are leagues ahead of the rest in terms of survivability because of their synergy with the talent tree

[azure bridge]

I do like my deimos

[ornate hamlet]

You can crit with your non-warp attacks and get toughness, you can fondle your sword and get toughness, you can kill stuff with your fondled sword to also get more toughness, you can stand still and get toughness because you just fondled your sword 2 seconds before

[limber tartan]

Glad to hear that, obviously modify it to your own preferance

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, honestly the only thing I didn't feel I needed was the +movespeed from Warp Speed, so I'll try flipping that over to Enfeeble and see what happens.

Nice build tho man, thanks for sharing!

[digital narwhal]

Illisi Force Sword on it's way to be the best choice for near every build that already deals with Carapace.

[ornate hamlet]

4 points down right side zealot and I already got more toughness DR with one crit than my psyker has with the DR from the tree connectors and scrier's gaze combined

[limber tartan]

Though i meant a more aggresive playstyle, not necessarily running off zealot style and then dying 3 kilometers away but rather jumping away from your team dealing with an issue and going back to support them

And the bonus movement speed as well as dodge on every crit when you've got 55% crit chance and a decent firerate helps

Your only fear are disablers but then again its something that everyone has to be aware of

[hot zephyr]

I have between the eyes on my weapon, so between the dodges and the supression immunity, I could just absolute demolish gunner packs at range too

[limber tartan]

Oh yea supression immunity is really good too ,used to take it however i swapped for dumdum for better damage instead, obviously Reassuringly Accurate is a must

[chilly moon]

I just have 3 +12 Block Efficeny Curios, and my force sword with the blessing that allows u to stop bullets

I walk towards the Gunner-Horde while tanking hundreds of shots with ease and then slice them up.

[crimson remnant]

you can actually use uncanny or ruthless and ignore the low penetration roll, lol

[hot zephyr]

I'm actually running a Kantrel MG 1a, not a pistol. with Opening Salvo + Between The Eyes. Absolutely rips.

[pseudo basin]

Does Empowered Psionics have charges?

[hot zephyr]

My crits are in excess of 1k

[quasi junco]

Gunkers….. lol

[iron elbow]

Does anyone know of any good high level psyker gameplay videos

[quasi junco]

All these awesome staves we have

[limber tartan]

Yea you do get frequent 1k crits on weakspot shots, and the movement speed is a lot more helpfull on laspiston since with it you can walk backwords and majority of enemies and bosses cannot catch up to you

[iron elbow]

I’m trying to show the game to my friend who knows nothing about it. I wanna show him a psyker doing crazy shit in auric/maelstrom

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, it's the amount the description mentions

[exotic tulip]

Anyone know how in fire reborn works? Vs psychic vampire

10% on enemies killed by soulblaze passive sounds bad, 10% on enemies that are killed who have soulblaze on them sounds good.

[limber tartan]

10% that an enemy killed by soulblaze will get you the stack

And it is really good

[hot zephyr]

Ah, makes sense why you have warp speed then. I was worried the warp siphon build I had wouldn't hold up as I ease myself back into Damnation and eventually into Auric runs, but jeez this feels like a whole other level if you murder a special pack and essentially fully reset SG right as DD is wearing off

[limber tartan]

With purge staff you are hitting ALOT of enemies

You will always get a couple of stacks simply because of the odds

[exotic tulip]

But they don't always die to the soulblaze, I hope the direct damage of the staff also counts as soulblaze

[limber tartan]

Yep

Purge does soulblaze damage

[exotic tulip]

Even then you have to kill 2.5x over the average of the whole team with soulblaze specifically

or something like that

4% of everything anyone in coherency kills, or 10% of stuff that dies specifically to soulblaze.

[hot zephyr]

it doesn't have to die to soulblaze. Just needs to have the dot when it dies

[limber tartan]

If you're going with soulblaze build then 10% of stuff that dies to soulblaze 100% all the way

[exotic tulip]

I swear before if 2 psykers had the level 30 fire build when that was a thing they both got warp charges from it.

[limber tartan]

It's the easiest way to do the warp battery penance

Or however its called

[exotic tulip]

Ahh, thats what I was wondering cause its description indicates just kills.

I have all but the under 20 minute 25% health penance

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it's kinda hidden but if you read the Atheneum you'll see it's been tested

[exotic tulip]

Ahh, I think I read it a long while back and it hadn't been tested yet

THanks

[pseudo basin]

What's the trauma staff good for? I keep finding myself spending all my peril on assail and never use the staff. It's really slow

[hot zephyr]

It's somewhat hidden by the wording.

Killing an enemy with soulblaze
Most people read that as "it died from soulblaze", not "it died while afflicted by the debuff that is soulblaze"

[limber tartan]

WEll remember that stunning or i think even hitting the marked target will reset the dd duration back to full

[scenic dawn]

This fucking Warp Battery penance is PISSING ME OFF!

[patent glacier]

are they gonna make the surge force staff gib as much as it did last patch? i know staff was broken but after this patch its back to being sorta meh feedback wise

[limber tartan]

Soo you don't necessarily need to kill the marked target just hit him once

[scenic dawn]

I'mstuck at 246 out of 300

[patent glacier]

sometimes explodes things but most of the time they just flop over

[scenic dawn]

Do you need to have 6 stacks of warp charge as opposed to 4 for it to count?

[hot zephyr]

Yes, you need 6. You'd be shocked how often someone comes in this chat complaining about the penance to find out you need 6 stacks to get it count

[exotic tulip]

Any funny way to get souldblaze bleed and fire on an enemy as psyker (Chainsword and Infernus Laspistol) and is it any good

[ornate hamlet]

Too much work to juggle them

[limber tartan]

Actually you don't need to have 6 max, you can do it with the default amount as i did

[ornate hamlet]

I think you can't get all 3 anyway, at least not conventionally

Chainsword and force sword can apply bleed and soulblaze, but they share a slot

[limber tartan]

Its easier to get to soo you can max it earlier and have the count tick for longer because of that

[scenic dawn]

Any recommendations for the warp charge penance?

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatus, trauma and voidstrike can apply soublaze, but they share a slot with the laspistol and recon lasguns

You could, however, use the chainsword to apply bleed, use the laspistol or recon to apply fire, and then kill an elite or specialist near the enemy to apply a minor amount of soulblaze

And to do that, you'd need to do a rev attack with the chainsword, slam the mouse on the laspistol and somehow find an elite or specialist to kill near your target

At that point, nah

[exotic tulip]

Should I swap stripped down for headhunter when I get that?

[limber tartan]

Stripped down if you're having issues with ranged enemies